1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: Sciences. This is w DV Pittsburgh. 2 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 2: It's just showing four man rush after what they'll bring 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 2: Allen back throwing on a crossing pattern as a man 4 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 2: wide open. It's Latin McConkey, and it's a touchdown for 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: the charge, which is the twelve seconds remaining here in 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,319 Speaker 2: the first half. It's a quick slant up the middle 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 2: of the field. Mcconsty was wide open, and Herbert put 8 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 2: it right on that. 9 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 3: Pretty much. I thought sunk our playoff hopes this year. 10 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,319 Speaker 4: I mean, I know we're not mathematically but I think 11 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 4: that that I think so, I don't know that's or 12 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 4: maybe I just had sinking on the brain. Because today 13 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 4: is the fiftieth anniversary of the wreck of the Edmund 14 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 4: Fitzgerald and I went down the rabbit hole. I didn't 15 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 4: watch any of the afternoon games because I thought they 16 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 4: were going to be all crap. 17 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 3: Turns out, three score of Goami's in the afternoon game. 18 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 5: Oh really, what scores? That have never happened? 19 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 3: Three of them? What are the chances of that at 20 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 3: any rate? 21 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 4: So I went down this rabbit hole and I shared 22 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 4: with you guys one of the documentaries I watched. 23 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 5: And yeah, it was fascinating, awesome. 24 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 4: I posted him on Twitter if you have any interest 25 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 4: in that stuff, really cool stuff. Every storyline. I can't 26 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,639 Speaker 4: believe it's not a Hollywood movie because there's so many 27 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 4: like really intriguing stories about the crew and how that 28 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 4: all went down, and. 29 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 6: Even the bad omen of the woman not being able 30 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 6: to break the champagne bottle against the boat. 31 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 4: Edmund Fitzgerald's wife. She couldn't crack the champagne bottle, which 32 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 4: is bad luck. 33 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 6: Just even learning about his history, like the fact that 34 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 6: he was an insurance guy. 35 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. I thought it was like a war 36 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 3: there's like a war hero. 37 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 4: Turns out he was just like a rich guy and 38 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 4: they're like, let's give Eddie a boat. 39 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: You know. 40 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 6: He's like, I'm gonna build the biggest boat that anybody's 41 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 6: ever seen. 42 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: And it was. It. 43 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 3: It was so big. 44 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 4: When they put it in the water, ten thousand people 45 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 4: came to just watch it get pushed into the water. 46 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 6: And it hit the other side of the thing and 47 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 6: then came back and a guy had a heart attack 48 00:01:59,400 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 6: and died. 49 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 3: It sunk. 50 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:05,639 Speaker 4: It's like, there's so many crazy stories about that ship 51 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 4: that they say was like all right, started off curse, 52 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 4: but it still made it, you know, seventeen years before 53 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 4: it ended up. 54 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 7: And they ran the whole thing on a PlayStation control. 55 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 4: But it's it's fascinating and anyways I linked that there, 56 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 4: and even the story of Gordon Lightfoot song is really fascinating. 57 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 5: Oh yeah. 58 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 6: And and the fact that when that then that ship 59 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 6: was first built, it had all the amenities and people 60 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 6: would go on it and and just take trips on it, 61 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 6: like the the Hoy Paloi. 62 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like it was like a carnival cruise 63 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 4: boat in the late fifties, and they would put executives 64 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 4: on there. They had TVs in their room, which was 65 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 4: a big deal back then, and like oh yeah, carpeted 66 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 4: rooms and everything, and it was like this huge attraction. 67 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 4: I didn't know any of that stuff, no, but either 68 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 4: there's it's fascinating. And it was the last shipwreck on 69 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 4: the Great Lakes. Wow, there were six thousand before it 70 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 4: and none sense really technology man, Yeah, sonar, radar, all 71 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 4: of that stuff, they don't They didn't have it that day. 72 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 4: You know, all of his radar was out. He didn't 73 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 4: know where he was going, so he probably crashed into 74 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 4: that island. That's probably what happened underneath. He got too 75 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 4: close and they took on the water, and they. 76 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 7: Spoke to the toughness too. They're like, no, we'll be fine, don't. 77 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 3: Worry about us. Yeah. Literally the last words from the 78 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 3: captain like, we're holding our own. 79 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 6: What were those locks that they traveled through and traversed 80 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 6: from SIUs Saint Marie. Yeah, I forget what the famous locks, 81 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 6: but they were basically saying that they were the most 82 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 6: guarded locks in the entire country. Because if the Germans 83 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 6: somehow figured out, yeah, to like destroy that that spot 84 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 6: and take out those locks, that we wouldn't have been 85 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 6: able to continue to build B fifty two's in all 86 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 6: the war machines that we were building to try to 87 00:03:59,440 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 6: beat the knots. 88 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 4: It's really fascinating because they were taking all the iron 89 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 4: ore from like Deluth and taking it down to Detroit 90 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 4: where they were building all that stuff. But the other 91 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 4: staff that they had that's kind of remarkable. It's like 92 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 4: if you knocked out the Great Lakes freighting, that would 93 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 4: knock out the third biggest GDP in the world. Like 94 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 4: that's how much commerce is happening on that thing. 95 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 5: It's crazy. So that had no idea. 96 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 4: Either, did I and the Fitzgerald's was that was the 97 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 4: granddaddy of them all. 98 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 1: I didn't. 99 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 3: I just thought it was a boat, you know what 100 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 3: I mean. 101 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 4: I didn't know it had all of this lord, so 102 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 4: I thought it was just one that went down. And 103 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 4: then you see all the stories of the people who 104 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 4: were on and stuff. 105 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 3: You're like, oh, man, oh. 106 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, the one guy's uncle, the woman's dad. 107 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 8: Oh. 108 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 4: I mean that's the other thing hearing from survivors because 109 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 4: you think it's like such ancient history or from not survivors, 110 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 4: but you know, the daughters of the people that perish. 111 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 4: And she's like, yeah, I was twelve years old and 112 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 4: we're watching the news and Tom Brocoss comes on the 113 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 4: news and says, there was a freighter that went down 114 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 4: last night in the Lake Superior, the Edmund Fitzgerald, and 115 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 4: my mom. 116 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 3: Said, time time to go to bed. 117 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 4: You're like, so like it just personalized it all, yea, 118 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 4: all like oh god, now now I really have like this, 119 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 4: like I don't know, feeling of reverence for that whole thing. 120 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 6: I don't know what it is, definitely, and just the 121 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 6: fact that even as recent as Tom Brokaw, we didn't 122 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 6: have technology, Like there was no pictures of that ship. 123 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 5: It was like a drawing. 124 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 4: Well that was yeah, that was on the CBS when 125 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 4: they had it looked like like the graphic they have 126 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 4: behind the new for It wasn't Cronkite. I think it 127 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 4: was Harry Reasoner and yes, that's who it was. And 128 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 4: he's like that ship went down last night and like superior, 129 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 4: and behind him is a crudely drawn ship like going 130 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 4: like plug plug plug, Like it looked like a poster 131 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 4: board for a comic book. 132 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 7: Like steamboat Willie. 133 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, like yeah, thirty people died out. 134 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 4: You're like, well, Jesus, that's kind of heavy to have 135 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 4: like a cartoon of you know, a boat like whoah, 136 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 4: you know, look like Looney Tunes almost. 137 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 3: But were you. 138 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 6: Surprised that there's only twenty nine people to make a 139 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 6: ship that size? Go, I guess yeah. I mean just 140 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 6: the size of that thing. They said it was like 141 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 6: hundred feet long on its side. If you turned it 142 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 6: straight up, it would be as tall as the biggest 143 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 6: skyscraper in Cleveland or something or yeah. 144 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't remember that part of it, 145 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 4: but it was it was deeper, it was the water 146 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 4: was shallower than that boat was big. It sunk in 147 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 4: five hundred and thirty feet water, which Lake Superior goes 148 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 4: to sixteen hundred feet for reference. Lake Eries like two 149 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 4: hundred at its deepest point. Man, that's how deep leaps 150 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 4: Lake Superior is. 151 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: It's crazy. 152 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 4: Anyways, there's you can just go on YouTube and go 153 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 4: down the rabbit hole if you want to, cause it's 154 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 4: really fun. I never knew any of that stuff, and 155 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 4: you'll hear that song a few times this weekend or 156 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 4: this week. But I'm shocked at Billy Strings didn't play 157 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 4: it on Saturday night at PPG Paints Arena because he 158 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 4: has played it before and just kills it. And he's 159 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 4: not playing tonight, which is the day of the ship sunk. 160 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 4: So I would have thought we would have got that 161 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 4: on Saturday night, but mattered not because that was one 162 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 4: of the greatest shows I've ever seen. And I just 163 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 4: got to tell you go see Billy Strings if you 164 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 4: like just musicianship, you don't even have to like bluegrass 165 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 4: or jam grass or whatever. Him his abilities and his 166 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 4: band is unlike anything I've ever seen. They are so 167 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 4: tight and they have so many killer ideas that they 168 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 4: execute at an expert level. And he's always been a 169 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 4: badass guitar player, but his singing now is like he 170 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 4: might be one of the best singers in bluegrass, and 171 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 4: his band is The harmonies are pitch perfect, They are incredible. 172 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 4: It was so fun and it'll never not make me laugh. 173 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 4: How many balloons are just filling up side the PBG 174 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 4: pants arena and that operation, Man, that is impressive. 175 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 3: They got lookouts. 176 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 4: Going, and you know they're around the corner like they 177 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 4: were down by the Super Bowl wherever you needed to 178 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 4: get balloons. 179 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 3: They were all over the. 180 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 5: Place, a bunch of fifty year olds looking like they're 181 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 5: in the movie Up. 182 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 4: Yes, exactly, Yes, no doubt about it. And they were 183 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 4: definitely up and an amazing show. I'm sad I miss 184 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 4: Friday Night after that. 185 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 5: Can I ask you a question about billy strings? 186 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 6: How cause I don't understand jamming and bluegrass enough. How 187 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 6: can you be like a jam band guy and also 188 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 6: be tight? 189 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 3: Well that's the key. When you're not, you're a mess. 190 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 4: You know, it's like jazz basically, same principles, like. 191 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 5: Inside the structure, but there's a definite. 192 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 4: Structure and then you just kind of have to know 193 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 4: when you're coming out of the free form part into 194 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 4: the CADI five part, like here's the structure part, and 195 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 4: you all have to hit that queue. And it can 196 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 4: be as simple as sometimes that they're just nodding to 197 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 4: each other. Sometimes they just understand that it's hit the 198 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 4: crescendo and it's time for it to like go right 199 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 4: back into that. And that's the tension and release that 200 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 4: makes people love that kind of music. 201 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 6: Because you get lost in it and then all of 202 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 6: a sudden you're like, can you get your way back? 203 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 3: Exactly? 204 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 4: You're kind of rooting for him, like where's he going? 205 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 4: How's this going to get back there? And when they 206 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 4: pull it off, you're like, oh, that was a great journey. 207 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: That was funny. 208 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 8: Yes. 209 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 4: Anyways, Abby's got some updates for you here on the 210 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 4: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction ceremonies. 211 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 9: And is this hour brought to you by Windownation Clouds 212 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 9: with a couple of snow showers and I have thirty 213 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 9: nine today. Rock and Roll Hall of Fame held its 214 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 9: fortieth induction ceremony on Saturday night in Los Angeles and 215 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 9: reminded to be eligible for nomination, artists are required to 216 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 9: have really released their first record twenty five years prior 217 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 9: to induction. So this year it was Bad Company, Joe Cocker, Soundgarden, 218 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 9: Cindy Laupper, the White Stripes, Chuggy Chubby, Chuggy Checker, Chuggy 219 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 9: Hubby Checker and Outcasts, which, by the way, I saw 220 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 9: like nothing on Chubby Checker to. 221 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 3: Do the twist, That's what I mean. 222 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 7: Like, I saw like no recap of him whatsoever. 223 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 3: Well, he's a fraud and he should have never got 224 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,719 Speaker 3: in the end and we're done there. 225 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 4: That's Domino, that's it. No Chubby Checker, the guy literally 226 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 4: stole a name, didn't do it. His zero contribution other 227 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 4: than somebody wrote a hit for him. 228 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 3: Anyways, I still would have. 229 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 5: Loved to have seen Husky tittlely winks, you know. In Ductor. 230 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 9: Last hour we already talked about Warren Zevon and we 231 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 9: were getting into the White Stripes. Meg White did not 232 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 9: go to the ceremony. She really has not been seen 233 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 9: in public for about fifteen years. But their induction was 234 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 9: by Iggy Pop, who is a fellow Michigan Rock and 235 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 9: Roll Hall of Fame member himself, and actually he kind 236 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 9: of did what we were all thinking whenever he started 237 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 9: his speech, I gotta get this. 238 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: Out of my system. 239 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 4: Don't don't don't, don't du do do? 240 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 7: I love Iggy Pop? Is just like tell me of 241 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 7: ADHD was telling. 242 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 3: You her Jack White. Does it get any better than 243 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 3: Iggy Pop introducing him? 244 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 9: That's absolutely perfect. Jack had a great speech. It's a 245 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 9: little long here, but I kind of figured he was 246 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 9: going to speak to the artists of today, To the. 247 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 10: Young artists, I want to say, get your hands dirty 248 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 10: and drop the screens and get out in your garage 249 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:41,719 Speaker 10: or your little room and get obsessed. Get obsessed with 250 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 10: something you know, get passing it. We all want to 251 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 10: share in what you might create. Lastly, I was gonna 252 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 10: send this to Meg, but I didn't get around to it, 253 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 10: so I thought i'd read it to you all tonight. 254 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 10: One time a girl climbed a tree, and in that 255 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 10: tree was a boy, her brother, she thought, And the 256 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 10: tree looked so glorious and beautiful, but it was just 257 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 10: an oak tree. And these two so loved the world 258 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 10: that they brought forth a parade float. One they built 259 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 10: in their garage behind the oak tree with their own 260 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 10: bare hands. And the boy looked at this giant Pepperman 261 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 10: on wheels and felt pride, pride that it was produced 262 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,359 Speaker 10: in the motor city, just like in the big factories, 263 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 10: but it was just in their garage. He looked at 264 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 10: the girl, his sister, he thought, and like the little rascals, 265 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 10: they said, let's put on a show. And they paraded 266 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:38,479 Speaker 10: this float through the cast corridor, standing atop the peppermint, 267 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 10: pulled by white horses, or maybe it was a ready 268 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 10: canoline van. And many of the blocks they traveled were empty, 269 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 10: but some had people, and some of those people cheered, 270 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 10: and some laughed, and some even threw stones, and with 271 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 10: their bare hands, the two started to clap and sing 272 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 10: and make up songs, and some people kept watching and 273 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 10: swaying and moving, and then one person even smiled, and 274 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 10: the boy and the girl looked at each other, and 275 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 10: they also smiled, and they felt they. 276 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 3: Both felt the sin of pride. 277 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 10: What they kept on smiling, smiling from a new freedom, 278 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 10: knowing that they had shared and made another person feel something. 279 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 10: And they thought the person smiling at them was a stranger, 280 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 10: someone they didn't even know. But it wasn't just a stranger. 281 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 10: It was God, my sister, Thanks you, and I thank you, 282 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 10: Thank you. 283 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 5: All very much. 284 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: It had been funny. 285 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 4: And then an hour down the road, two other boys 286 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 4: in Akron completely copied everything that we did. 287 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 6: They also build a peppermin colored it black and thought 288 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 6: it was different. 289 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: But it wasn't. 290 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 3: And then they sold all their songs to cars. And 291 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 3: then they went to the same school Nashville after I did. 292 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 3: They've been following me, not whole live. 293 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 6: That was beautiful, though, Man, that's like a that's a 294 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 6: children's book. He should publish that. He's good at stuff 295 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 6: like that. I mean, Jack White, I think is a 296 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 6: true artist. I think that his appreciation of Meg has 297 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 6: been great post White White Stripes. 298 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 4: I don't know how what the dynamic was like when 299 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 4: they were together. I don't know how well they got 300 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 4: along and how you know, because it's it must have 301 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 4: been hard to get divorced, yeah, and then be in 302 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 4: a band together, and I don't know how amicable. 303 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 3: Sometimes that's not hard. 304 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 4: Sometimes it's like we both agree that this is what 305 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 4: needs to happen and we should be friends. But I 306 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 4: don't know anything about Meg other than it seems like 307 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 4: she has just been terrified to speak. 308 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 9: Seems like it's by design that we don't know anything 309 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 9: about probably better. Yeah, And Jack famously does seem to 310 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 9: stay friends with his exes. He's, you know, very famous 311 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 9: for having that divorce party with Karen Elson. 312 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 3: Oh that's right. 313 00:14:58,400 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: Time. 314 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 9: He's doing TikTok with her now. And they're very real 315 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 9: their parents, right, yeah, their parents, and so they do 316 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 9: tiktoks with their daughter. Sometimes she did a walk at 317 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 9: a fashion show and they were doing like tiktoks with 318 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 9: her and everything. So it seems like he's very pro 319 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 9: stang being an adult. 320 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 3: How about it? Everybody now? 321 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 9: Providing the musical tribute to the White Stripes were Olivia 322 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 9: Rodrigo and Feist. 323 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 7: They actually did an acoustic version of We're going to 324 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 7: be friends. 325 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 3: We all notice anything, We side my son every This 326 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 3: is great? Do you you thinks that I so funny? 327 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 11: What you say? 328 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 12: Silly? 329 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 3: Thus go through mine about the books. 330 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 12: Enough of it went away tomorrow you're li walked getting again. 331 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: I can tell you. 332 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 3: I already liked Navia RB. 333 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 7: I love Feist. 334 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 3: I don't know her. 335 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 9: That really got me into Olivia. 336 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 3: I love she's like Canadian cat power. Cat power, Yes, 337 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 3: that's yeah, but she's Feist. 338 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 4: Is when the lead singer of Tragically hip died the 339 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 4: first show they did with you know, the surviving members. 340 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 4: Feist sang for them like she's well regarded in Canada. 341 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 4: She had that song you definitely know that something two 342 00:16:53,040 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 4: keep going, oh you know it a little bit more. 343 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 3: And then also this. 344 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 7: Was a big moment. 345 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 3: Put your hand in your mouth, scratch your head like 346 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 3: a monkey. Now get out through the dance. 347 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 5: Take your pants off. I'm getting it. 348 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 3: Take my hands off, all right. 349 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 1: And then this is a big moment of the night. 350 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 9: Twenty one pilots had their take on seven Nation Army. 351 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 4: All the worlds amably for me, I will think no 352 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 4: more vocally, damn dead nuts any. 353 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 11: Stage, tell me come back. 354 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 9: Maybe, James, Yeah, do something different with it. I mean, 355 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 9: show Jack White that you kind of took his speech 356 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 9: to heart and get obsessed with something, and you. 357 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 4: Know I I do like that, get obsessed with something. 358 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 4: And there aren't they from Columbus. They are so that 359 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 4: nice little tie in again, why not staying you know 360 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 4: in the Midwest there, Yeah. 361 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 7: I do want to get to Soundgarden. 362 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 9: I feel like that was one of the big marquee 363 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 9: things of the evening. Third band from Seattle's grunge scene 364 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 9: to be inducted following Nirvana. 365 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 7: And Pearl Jam. We still need to get to Alison Chains. 366 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 9: We'll get there at some point, but they've been eligible 367 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 9: since twenty thirteen, so this year. Matt Cameron, by the way, 368 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 9: also is already in because he's in with Pearl Jam. 369 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 9: But alongside Cameron, their original bassist hero Yamamoto got in. 370 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 9: His permanent replacement, Ben Sheppard got in, Kim Sale, and 371 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 9: then of course their late singer Chris Cornell. 372 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 7: But Jim Carrey gave the induction speech, and I. 373 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 9: Thought he actually it was an odd choice in one regard, 374 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:31,959 Speaker 9: but he did an amazing speech. 375 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 13: That track was the ultimate example of Chris Cornell's prolific songwriting. 376 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 13: It felt like he had given us an all access 377 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 13: pass to some monumental apocalyptic dream he was having. He 378 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 13: had a deeply authentic presence. When you looked into his eyes, 379 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 13: it was like Eternity was staring back sadly on a 380 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 13: shocking night. 381 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: In twenty seventeen, Chris left us. 382 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 13: We lost a very special being, a monumental musical artist 383 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 13: and an inspired innovator. But for all time his voice 384 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 13: will continue to light up the ether like a Tesla 385 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 13: coil an I apologize. 386 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 9: He was talking about black Hole Son when he was 387 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 9: saying that track, so he was talking about that being 388 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 9: like a way of really looking into Chris cornell soul, 389 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 9: which again, that's an incredible song and maybe one of 390 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 9: the most iconic in their catalog. Taylor Momson, which oddly enough, 391 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 9: Jim Carrey played opposite in the Branch. She was Cindy 392 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 9: lu who she is now in the band The Pretty Reckless, 393 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 9: and this is a little snippet of her singing Rusty 394 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,959 Speaker 9: Cage and it also had Pearl Jim's Mike McCready on guitar. 395 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 7: Her voice is so freaking. 396 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 9: Cool this one I love though I hope that sounds 397 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 9: a little bit better on this one. Taylor is also 398 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 9: on this one, but Brandy Carlyle and this was like 399 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 9: a record store day thing that happened where she did 400 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 9: black Hole Sun. Alison Chain's guitarist Jerry Contrell is on 401 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 9: this and also hero Yamamoto is also performing as well. 402 00:21:31,119 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 9: But take a listen, stupid like I love her. I 403 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 9: love her too. She's on my list of artists to see. 404 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 9: But the I mean very heart tugging moment as well. 405 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 9: Tony Cornell, which is Chris's daughter came out to do 406 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 9: fell on Black Days and this was with Heart's Nancy 407 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 9: Wilson on acoustic guitar, and then they also had a 408 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 9: cellist on stage. 409 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 3: Can Dom sever. 410 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 13: Purchase so so they say I can't see in the. 411 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 3: Nice sat Mucketa. 412 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: Wow. 413 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 7: A lot of really good stuff from the ceremony. 414 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 9: It is available to stream on Disney Plus and Hulu 415 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 9: and then ABC is also going to air a condensed 416 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 9: version on January first. Some of the things that we 417 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 9: didn't get to this hour, maybe we can get to 418 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 9: it tomorrow. 419 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 7: Joe Cocker Tribute. 420 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 9: Which had just amazing people, Tedesky Trucks, Teddy Swims, Chris 421 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 9: Robinson was on that really good stuff from Cindy Lapper, 422 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 9: the Bad Company stuff. Also, I really actually like what 423 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 9: they did with outcasts. They had a bunch of people 424 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 9: jump up to nell mony did some stuff. So we 425 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 9: can kind of table that for tomorrow because I know 426 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 9: we got a lot of Steelers talk to get to. 427 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 4: But we do like joining us in just a little 428 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 4: bit here live what we have Him or not you 429 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 4: I thought you were doing the no. Hi, hey Jacobs, 430 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 4: We're just glad you got home from Penn State in 431 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,199 Speaker 4: one piece without getting your arse beat wearing all that 432 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 4: Indiana gear? 433 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 3: How how was that? 434 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 12: By the way, And I was just scratching my head 435 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 12: in my bad I mean to that, But yeah, it 436 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 12: was a great weekend. It would no confrontations you stayed. 437 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 12: Would have would have been a tough ride home had 438 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 12: the game gone in the other way. 439 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 4: Yes, because for the record, Jacobs and are you grad Yeah, 440 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 4: most of our listeners would be more Penn State leaning, 441 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 4: just in case they didn't know, because they're like. 442 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 3: What do you mean it didn't go the right Yeah, 443 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 3: like it went the wrong. 444 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 6: Way, And they waited till the end of the game 445 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 6: with the best catch that's ever been made to pull 446 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 6: off the victory. 447 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 4: And the Gus Johnson call, the Gus Johnson call, Oh 448 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 4: my god, this. 449 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 12: Is apoplectic, but draft the whole fourth quarter, I mean luckily, 450 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 12: I mean I know some people are off of Gush Johnson. 451 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 3: I wasn't able to hear him because I was at 452 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 3: the game. Well here it is, Mendoza, they shut up. 453 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: That drove me down. 454 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 5: Sounds like a drunk Harry carry. 455 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 4: Michael have the full sports Port for Oh no, I'm sorry, 456 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 4: Jaredy next and then we'll talk with Mike and Rob 457 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 4: King with the power hour of Steelers talk the post 458 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 4: mortem of Steelers and the Chargers twenty five to ten. 459 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 3: Bad Guys Win DV. 460 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 8: Fifty five thousand watch that one of two point five 461 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 8: and streaming on all your devices. 462 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: Well everywin. 463 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 8: Save us as a preset on the free irt radio 464 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 8: app fitzburgs w DV. 465 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 3: It's Randy from the DVE Morning Show. 466 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 4: You know it's more important than ever before to connect 467 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 4: with people in real life and how that connection canmit. 468 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 4: It's your radio home of the Fitzburgh Steelers one O 469 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 4: two point five DVE. Our next guest, Bronze by Always 470 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 4: Safe Flagging and Traffic Control making traffic safe again. Call 471 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 4: four one two three zero one twenty three hundred or 472 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 4: visit us online at awsafe dot net for a quote today. 473 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 4: Jerry Doulac from the Steelers Audio Network joining us right 474 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 4: now from Los Angeles. Jerry coach Tomlin didn't even want 475 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 4: to step up to defend Aaron Rodgers game last night. 476 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 4: That's how poorly the veteran play caller played last night. 477 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,959 Speaker 11: Yeah, when he was asked, you know, what did you think? Basically, 478 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 11: what did you think of his performance, he said, what 479 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 11: did you think can Yeah, obviously he didn't play well 480 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 11: at the end of that was that was one of 481 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 11: his worst performances actually in a long time. I mean, 482 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 11: I think his completion percentage was the worse since twenty 483 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 11: twenty one. You know, it was as his passer rating 484 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 11: was the lowest since a game last season with the Jets, 485 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 11: And yeah, it wasn't It. 486 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: Wasn't very good. 487 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 11: And you know, he ends up with what one hundred 488 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 11: and sixty one yards and sixty five came on that 489 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 11: final possession, So yeah, it was pretty anemic. There's no 490 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 11: question about it. Overthrowing game well out in the flat, 491 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 11: you know. And then it's the poor either call or 492 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 11: decision to throw at the DK metcalf when it was 493 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 11: double covered down from the four or six or wherever 494 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 11: they were. And yeah, it was certainly wasn't a game 495 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 11: of highlights, that's for sure. 496 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's tough to criticize play calling when nothing 497 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 4: seems to be working right, because how do you know 498 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 4: anything's going to work correctly? But I just can't understand 499 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 4: why they don't just try to win on the back 500 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 4: of Jalen war in first and they did three and 501 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 4: out with three throws to begin the game after the 502 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 4: honor speed false start, And it just baffles me because 503 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 4: he's the one guy who just seems like there's desperation 504 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 4: in every play for Jalen Warren. 505 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 11: You know, yeah, you're right about that, Randall. And you know, 506 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 11: we saw them start last week with three passes and 507 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 11: I'll go back to the was it the Green Bay 508 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 11: game where they were running the ball well in the 509 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 11: first half. They come out to start of the second half. 510 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 11: You know, it's their leading sixteen to seven, and they 511 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 11: throw three straight passes and you know, the same thing again. 512 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 11: And I mean, you know, our teams just loading the 513 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 11: box right off the bat. I'll be honest, I don't 514 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 11: sit there and watch to see, Okay, are they loading 515 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 11: the box for these first couple of plays, because I 516 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 11: don't expect them to do that, come out and throw 517 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 11: like that. But I mean, I understand you want to 518 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 11: be aggressive, but that's that's been overly aggressive way too 519 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 11: early in the games. So yeah, I don't know. But 520 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 11: Jalen Warren just, I mean, he just proves time and 521 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 11: again he's you know, he's kind of he's a beast 522 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 11: in there. 523 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: Boy. 524 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 11: He makes a lot of plays, whether it's you know, 525 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 11: catching the ball or running the ball, and he didn't 526 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 11: have a lot of success early, but they got it going. 527 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 11: And yeah, he's he's the one guy who's been very, 528 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 11: very good. Question. 529 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: It is head scratching. 530 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 14: You look at that stat sheet and there's uggly numbers 531 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,719 Speaker 14: all across the board except Jalen Moore in fourteen carries 532 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 14: seventy yards five point zero average, and the team averaged 533 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 14: four point six on the ground on sixteen carries. Now, 534 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 14: they'll always tell you why we didn't convert third downs? No, 535 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 14: maybe run more on first and second down. Maybe that 536 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 14: fixes it. 537 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. 538 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 14: That's something they got to get to the bottom of. 539 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 14: It's not the only thing, but it's something, Yeah. 540 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 11: Mike, And you know fourteen that you know, professes to be, 541 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 11: you know, to want to run the ball, and so 542 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 11: then when they do run the ball. But you know, 543 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 11: I'll just go backward to when they brought Aaron Rodgers in. 544 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 11: You know, I like to use Berry Bradshaw's old line. 545 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 11: You know, Rogers isn't a maleman. He's a gunslinger and 546 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 11: he's going to throw the football. Unfortunately, he didn't throw 547 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 11: it very well last night, and you know that's two 548 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 11: games in a row. Now for the offense, you know, 549 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 11: it was just pretty anemic. Look, they were lucky last week, 550 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 11: they got a short field into their credit. They converted 551 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 11: those turnovers, those takeaways into touchdowns, but you know they 552 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 11: had their offensive production was a nemic last week and 553 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 11: it was even worse this week. 554 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 6: He's also old, like us ja is it as simple 555 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 6: as the sky doesn't like playing night games. I mean 556 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 6: it's bedtime and all of a sudden we're kicking. 557 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 3: The ball off. 558 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 11: You know, Billy. What I'm worried about too is you 559 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 11: know you saw this with Brett Farb you know, late 560 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 11: in his career that when you got the cold weather games. Now, 561 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 11: look he's certainly accustomed to that playing in Green Bay, 562 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 11: but not when he was aged forty two, and he's 563 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 11: going to be forty two in December, and you know, 564 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 11: it becomes it that it becomes another ballgame. 565 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: There is. 566 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 11: You know, handling, handling the cold weather when you're older. 567 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 11: Anybody who's older cats it tougher it. 568 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: Is to get moving. 569 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 11: But well, you know there Tam, You know, Mike Tommins 570 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 11: record in October, in November is pretty darn good so far, 571 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 11: not the case. Losing three to the last four. I 572 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 11: say take them off prime time. 573 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 5: Prime Time. That's what I'm saying, prime time. Three games now. 574 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 3: Considered, that them go back, go back. 575 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 11: Five weeks against against the league. Go ahead, Jerry, I'm 576 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 11: just going to say, the rest of the leagues looking 577 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 11: at them in primetime ago, they. 578 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: Ain't very good. 579 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 4: No, But to your point about Aaron Rodgers five weeks 580 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 4: ago against the Browns one passer rating against the Bengals 581 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 4: one O three Packers, one O one Colts ninety five, 582 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 4: Chargers fifty. Now, I don't think the next one drops 583 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 4: the zero. But these performances were slowly sliding downward. Last 584 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 4: night was an abysmal one. 585 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 5: But the Bengals defense is just what the doctor ordered. 586 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 4: Let's hope that's right. They have been putting up a 587 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 4: lot of points, though they had that. They're coming off 588 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 4: a bye two weeks ago they lost. They scored forty 589 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 4: two points against the Bears and lost. 590 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 11: Yeah, and to Billy's point, that's probably the best thing 591 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 11: for their offenses playing the Bengals defense. But if they 592 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 11: go lay an egg this week against that defense, you know, 593 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 11: then then you're going to start to worry. Look, I 594 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 11: didn't see too many open receivers yesterday. I'm certainly not 595 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 11: laying the blame there, but just the whole way around it, 596 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 11: it just it wasn't very good. Other than Jalen Warren. 597 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 11: You know, Pat Farmouth proves to be the one guy 598 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 11: who can make plays. And as crazy as it sounds, 599 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 11: the most productive receiver they've had in terms of scoring 600 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 11: has been Roman Wilson, and so you know, it just 601 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 11: it just was discombobulated from to start, and that's the 602 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 11: way they look. They I don't want to say they 603 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 11: played disinterested. They just played out of sync from from 604 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 11: the get go. And it started when you know, with 605 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 11: that h with that safety he had to take an 606 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 11: ends on when he ran into Fontano and dropped the ball. 607 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 3: Jerry. 608 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 14: Was there much if any talk in the locker room 609 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 14: about what clearly was a failed experiment of trying Anders 610 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 14: Pete at left guard so you could keep uh Spencer 611 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 14: Anderson available to be eligible, and how they kept changing 612 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 14: that up. 613 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: And it's just I don't think it helped us. 614 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 11: Put that way, well, it certainly didn't help right off 615 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 11: the bat when he takes the fall start County when 616 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 11: his first game that he plays. But I haven't had 617 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 11: a chance to talk to the coaches in terms of 618 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 11: what they wanted to do and what they what they 619 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 11: were thinking. But you know, they want to run. They 620 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 11: want to run that uh that heavy package with Spencer Anderson. 621 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 11: You would think maybe they might try somebody else in 622 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 11: that role as opposed to taking Anderson out of the 623 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 11: left guard spot and having him do that. But uh, 624 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 11: you know, I don't, I don't know, Like everything, everything 625 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 11: that they were doing was just out of sync. And 626 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 11: you know it started with the quarterback and you know 627 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 11: you have to you have to convert some third down 628 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 11: plays once again, the play disparity was uh, you know, 629 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 11: was incredible. Uh many chart plays the Charges ran as 630 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 11: opposed to the Steelers, and it would have looked a 631 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 11: whole lot worse if they didn't get that touchdown at 632 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 11: the end. It was bad enough that just that just 633 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 11: eased some of the discomfort of watching them play. That 634 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 11: is for sure. 635 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 4: Any word on the Sam Willow injury. Might he be 636 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 4: back for the Bengals game. 637 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 11: No. The only thing I could say Randall and Mike 638 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 11: and I talked about this in the pregame show, is 639 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 11: that you know this time last week, or at least 640 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 11: in terms of Sunday. Uh, he played. He didn't last long, 641 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 11: but he played. The fact that he didn't play tells 642 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 11: me that this Sunday he was worse than he was 643 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,959 Speaker 11: the previous Sunday. And you know, last year he missed 644 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 11: three games with that peck injury. I don't I don't 645 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 11: know how long he's going to be out, but all 646 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 11: I can presume is that his injury was worse this 647 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 11: week than it was the previous week. 648 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 4: Jerry Dulac Steelers Audio Network brought to you by Always Say 649 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 4: Flagging and Traffic Control this week on DVE. Jerry as 650 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 4: always thanks, safe travels coming back from Los Angeles. 651 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 11: Yeah, thanks man. I just hope everything's reliable today. 652 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 4: Well, I think you got a couple more weeks before 653 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,760 Speaker 4: it all goes to hell. You'll be fine, You'll be fine. Thanks, 654 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:31,760 Speaker 4: all right, buddy, we'll see Abby's well. Unfortunately we can't 655 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 4: get to any more of the rock and roll Hall 656 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 4: of Fame stuff today. Well, we'll do it tomorrow. We 657 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 4: got Rob King coming in for a power out of 658 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 4: Steeler talk. 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Ritzy Sports 670 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 4: all right here to hog the sportscast. 671 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 3: It's Mike Pursuona. Don't hog it now, don't hog it. 672 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 4: No, whatever you do, I'm making these guys listen to 673 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 4: these Edmund Fitzgerald between commercial breaks. 674 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 3: Oh no, I can tell you guys love it. 675 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: I actually do. 676 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 5: I like it. 677 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 3: Though. 678 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 4: There's differing opinions, you know, and hearing all these different 679 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 4: opinions about why the FitzGeralds sunk is interesting. But it introduced, uh, 680 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 4: some terminology that none of us had been familiar with, 681 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 4: and one of them is that the boat cracked in 682 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 4: half and then like uh, like like a bridge going up, 683 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,879 Speaker 4: it cracked in half, not like down, and so that's 684 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 4: called when it goes up. So the two halves like 685 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,760 Speaker 4: point up after it cracks in half, that's called hogging. 686 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 4: Like yeah, like hogging. And I'd never heard that before 687 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 4: as a turn Yeah. He and then the one guy 688 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 4: keeps going he hogged the boat. He's not, he's hogging 689 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 4: right now. And then that's what happened. And then it 690 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 4: cracked in half, and before they knew it, they sunk 691 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 4: five hundred feet down. That's why all of the life 692 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 4: and also it was too rough to get in life 693 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 4: boats apparently. Oh yeah, so they just I mean, those 694 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 4: dudes all they're all toast and they're all down there still, all. 695 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 3: Of them crazy. 696 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 4: So bizarre fiftieth anniversary reck of the Edmond Fitzgerald Mice 697 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 4: got your Sports. 698 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 1: Now, Sports brought to you by Bridgeville. 699 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 14: Plain's offense was the problem in the Steelers twenty five 700 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 14: ten stinker last night in LA but TJ. Watt didn't 701 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,720 Speaker 14: want to give the defense a pass. 702 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:03,280 Speaker 15: Inconsistent could be too much up and down, not enough. 703 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: Steeler football. 704 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 15: I mean, we can't continue to live and die by 705 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 15: the turnovers as a defense. We need to get off 706 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 15: the field and you stop the run critical third downs 707 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 15: when you do better job of and no excuse for it. 708 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 15: You need to play better. 709 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 3: Over there. 710 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 6: Last night they had a couple turnovers that they couldn't 711 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 6: get their mits on. 712 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 1: Fully. 713 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 14: Yeah, the offense couldn't complete a pass, not on third 714 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 14: down of any rate, not until it was way too late, dude. 715 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 16: It's probably midway to the fourth quarter before we converted a 716 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 16: third down. And you're not gonna win football games not 717 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 16: converting third down and losing the turnover battle. And we 718 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 16: certainly would loose with the ball in several instances and 719 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 16: didn't convert enough third downs, and so that's the end result. 720 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,240 Speaker 16: It's nothing mystical about it. 721 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 1: I appreciate t J. 722 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 14: Watt holding the defense accountable, and yeah, that Joey Porter 723 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 14: dropped interception could have been a game changing play. But 724 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 14: this defense gave up thirteen points through three quarters and 725 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 14: the Chargers' scoring drives were fifty one, thirty eight and 726 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 14: thirty six yards. 727 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 5: Turnovers man offense they capitalized on. The turnover offense just. 728 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,760 Speaker 1: Has to be better, I mean way better. 729 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 14: Still wouldn't be what they're going to need to be 730 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 14: at some point, but where they are right now that 731 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 14: this was just off the charts bad, starting with quarterback 732 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 14: Aaron Rodgers, who had a night to forget and acknowledged 733 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 14: it as such. 734 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 15: Defense played really well tonight, and offensively we were pretty bad. 735 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 15: So we got to find a way to get open 736 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 15: on third down. 737 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 1: I got to find a way to hit them. 738 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 14: And because that was just some bad ball, Yeah it was. 739 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,839 Speaker 14: It was interesting to me that the Chargers, really, I thought, 740 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 14: had a great game plan for what they had to 741 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 14: work with along the offensive line, and most of the 742 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 14: damage Herbert was doing through the first three quarters was 743 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 14: sideways passing and just yacking it out. You know, it 744 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 14: looked like kind of how the Steelers were playing it 745 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 14: early in the season. 746 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,240 Speaker 6: And because he was under duress, I mean, the Steelers 747 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 6: were getting after him. 748 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 14: They know how many times he's been hit this year, 749 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 14: and they know who they had playing offensive tackle, and 750 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 14: they know what the Steelers rush is capable of, and 751 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 14: they worked around it. And I thought their coaches had 752 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 14: the better night of the two staffs agreed. 753 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 4: Although execution was so poor on the Steelers end of things, 754 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 4: it's hard to really assess the game. Yeah, Yeah, it's 755 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,359 Speaker 4: a fair point, but that falls on coaching too. 756 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 14: Hit a couple of passes early and maybe it's a 757 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 14: different game, but they they never figured out a plan 758 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 14: b other than have Rogers try to navigate the pocket and. 759 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 1: Throw under duress. 760 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 14: And the running game thing is, I get that you're 761 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:57,919 Speaker 14: not running a lot of plays and oh for nine 762 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 14: on third downs not going to cut it, but they 763 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 14: keep appearing to have gotten away from the run too 764 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 14: early or not gone to it enough. And they got 765 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:09,839 Speaker 14: to solve that too. 766 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 5: In that Green Bay game, what did they have in 767 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 5: the second half? 768 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 3: Three rushes worn at three rushes. 769 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 5: One in the third quarter and that's when they were up. 770 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 5: They're still in the game. 771 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 14: You're up, You're up what nine at halftime last night? 772 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,879 Speaker 14: You know Chargers weren't running away and hiding. I mean, 773 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 14: Steelers couldn't get anything going, but they were within reach. 774 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,400 Speaker 14: You could have you could have just kept pounding and 775 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 14: kept pounding it. 776 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 11: I don't know. 777 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 14: It's always frustrating after a loss. But they better figure 778 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 14: it out quick because the Bengals coming to town Sunday. 779 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,439 Speaker 14: They've been pretty consistent since Flacco got there. They can 780 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 14: light you up and their defense stinks, so you know, 781 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,799 Speaker 14: I wouldn't go into this game thinking you're gonna win 782 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 14: sixteen to ten. 783 00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:00,080 Speaker 4: Bengals football enjoy half of it? 784 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 14: No, but I mean the two receivers are Sick and 785 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 14: Flacco he's they can enjoy half of it. Flacco is 786 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 14: doing what Rogers has pretty much done up until last 787 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 14: night anyway. But he's he's reading the defense, he's he's 788 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 14: activating the playmakers, he's getting. 789 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 1: He's being decisive. 790 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 14: He's getting the ball out and getting it where it 791 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 14: needs to go, and he's given his guys a chance 792 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 14: to make plays. 793 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,319 Speaker 6: The problem is that the Steelers don't have anybody as 794 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 6: good as Chase and Higgins. 795 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 14: They don't, but there was some place to be made 796 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:36,719 Speaker 14: last night. The second possession misfired a metcalf deep. I mean, 797 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,880 Speaker 14: I just said the Bengals, or excuse me, the Chargers 798 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 14: coaches had the better night. Arthur Smith got DK Metcalf 799 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 14: one all one against the safety. 800 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 1: That's got to be a touchdown. 801 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,239 Speaker 3: Jerry doesn't think so. Jerry thinks he shouldn't have thrown it. 802 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 1: He was talking about he was talking about the pig. 803 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,760 Speaker 4: Oh I'm sorry, Okay, yeah, you were talking about where 804 00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 4: he threw it was that. 805 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,839 Speaker 14: There's some talk about double coverage there. The safety's not 806 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 14: getting over and going out of bounds and getting on 807 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 14: the other side of them, and the safety's not jumping 808 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 14: on the cornerback's shoulders. 809 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 3: I think the safety can take away. 810 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,239 Speaker 4: If he's leading him high, that safety might be able 811 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 4: to get there. 812 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:17,439 Speaker 3: I don't think he does. 813 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:18,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think he does. 814 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 14: Rogers said he should have thrown it back shoulder or 815 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 14: thrown it to the other side of the field. I 816 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,399 Speaker 14: think back shoulder scores there. 817 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 4: Well, back shoulder gets you PI there is what is 818 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 4: what happens. 819 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,799 Speaker 14: I think jump ball scores there. I don't care how 820 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 14: many guys they got there. They're not as big as Metcalf. 821 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 14: Just let him go up and get it. 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