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Speaker 1: Thank you very much for the inclusion. Who do good morning?

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Speaker 1: And who do you like in the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 2: And why good morning?

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Speaker 3: And I'm going with most of the country on the

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Speaker 3: fact that I think it's going to be a Seattle win.

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Speaker 3: I think it could be as much as ten points

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Speaker 3: or more. I hope to goodness it's competitive, and I

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Speaker 3: think it will be for the first I think it

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Speaker 3: will be for the first half at least I could

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Speaker 3: see the second half Seattle starting to pull away. There

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Speaker 3: are some things that I think will keep it close.

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Speaker 3: I think namely, it's just the cachet, the experience the

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Speaker 3: Patriots coaching.

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Speaker 2: Staff has McDaniels.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, at good point, give that guy two weeks

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Speaker 3: to prepare. He's kind of a master. He's done it

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Speaker 3: all before, and you have some stuff up asleep.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: Obviously the players have to execute. You've got to out

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Speaker 3: execute a really good team and a really good defense,

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Speaker 3: and that is Seattle. It's just I don't know how

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Speaker 3: you see it, but it just seems like Seattle has

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Speaker 3: a little bit more firepower, a little bit more talent

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Speaker 1: Well, an interesting story popped up at Pro Football Talk

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Speaker 1: dot com, where Mike Vrabel shared a radio row excuse

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Speaker 1: me at the Super Bowl interviews that the Patriots did

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Speaker 1: not put in their final game plan until they left,

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Speaker 1: so they worked a little bit at Boxborough started the

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Speaker 1: install the whole thing. Reading between the lines here, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you can take Belichick and that paranoia out of the building,

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Speaker 1: but you can't take the paranoia and dotting the i's

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Speaker 1: and crossing the t's out of the building when it

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Speaker 1: comes to a Super Bowl. Because reading between the lines,

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking Vrabel's like seventy five percent of the people

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Speaker 1: who are watching this practice or like in their offices

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Speaker 1: and seeing it out the window, they're going to be

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Speaker 1: with us in Santa Clara. So we don't want anybody

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Speaker 1: who is not most deeply rooted in this covenant to

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Speaker 1: see what we're doing.

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Speaker 2: So we're going to do it when we get there.

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Speaker 2: I think that's kind of cool. Yeah, I never really

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Speaker 2: thought about it from that angle.

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Speaker 3: I mean, certainly, it just it does feel very Belichickian

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Speaker 3: to have that paranoia with your own people there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you've got account executive person who has

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Speaker 1: a family member or a friend who kind of does

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Speaker 1: the same thing for Seattle and your texting back and forth,

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Speaker 1: it could be like, yeah, dog, I know you're favored,

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Speaker 1: but wait till you get a load of this wheel

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Speaker 1: route I just saw to Trayvon Henderson.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's even little.

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Speaker 1: Things like that that that everybody make sure is undercover.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think I would guess if that is the motive, Yeah, Travan,

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Speaker 3: if that is the motivation, then I would see that

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Speaker 3: they could have they could practice seventy eighty percent. They're

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Speaker 3: what they think. The game plan is going to be

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Speaker 3: very traditional stuff. Let's just like, okay, this is what

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Speaker 3: Oh no, guess what we're gonna We're gonna put Stefan

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Speaker 3: The account executive probably has no idea what the hell

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Speaker 1: Which of all of these linebackers in this game would

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Speaker 1: The best are New England's Robert Spelane, Christian l or

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Speaker 1: Because in defenses like like Flores or to a certain extent,

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Speaker 3: And the thing is, so I'll answer that question first

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Speaker 3: You know, remember I did play in a three four

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Speaker 2: I tried. This wasn't my thing. Inches gaps.

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Speaker 4: to noon, which one I'd say, ellis Christian Luther's kid.

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Speaker 2: I think that's Luther Ellis's son. Is it?

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Speaker 1: Luther playing for the Lions with Robert Porchet back in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, freaking player too. Yeah, that's right. I forgot about

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Speaker 3: I just I feel like he's just one of those

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Speaker 1: We we had a late addition to a nine to

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Speaker 1: noon today this morning. In fact, five minutes before the show,

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Speaker 1: our cousins texted and said, yep, I can join today

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Speaker 1: at UH twenty five? Is if still interested? Yeah, we're interested,

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Speaker 1: and so chatting with Kirk, and he kept referencing some

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Speaker 1: of these big moments in Minnesota that he was part of,

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Speaker 1: and he said he thinks the best season he's ever

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Speaker 1: had as a quarterback was here in twenty twenty one

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Speaker 1: with Clint Kubiak as offensive coordinator. Gary Kubiak was the

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Speaker 1: guest before you for Super Bowl Stories. Kubiak called the

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Speaker 1: plays for Kirk in twenty twenty, worked with Stefanski in

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen and Clint in twenty twenty one. I just

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Speaker 1: I just enjoy chatting like Kirk and I will text,

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Speaker 3: See the the sort of onion that he is.

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Speaker 2: Oh, peel the layers go ahead with that.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's it's like every year, it's not he's

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Speaker 2: It's just very measured.

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Speaker 3: And then we see these moments where he's got chains

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, he's just still so quote unquote raw

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Speaker 1: Job lined up in sports media if he wants it,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's kirk oat Chains, the origin to Chains.

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Speaker 1: That was a great catching up with him. What are

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if it's look he's he has

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Speaker 3: last year, he's gotten better with that as I always

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Speaker 3: think that, and this goes for a lot of quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: Mike McDonald, coach of the Seahawks, either never has loss

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Speaker 2: He can do on Sunday. I mean, let's let's go

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Speaker 1: running back for the pat's been Treveon Henderson. What do

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Speaker 3: sometimes it's just like you know, when you're the caliber

438
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Speaker 3: the Adrian was, and he's like, look, you pay me

439
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Speaker 3: to run the ball, you don't pay me to block, right, right,

440
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Speaker 3: So I'm just going to be the best runner of

441
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Speaker 3: the NFL's ever seen. Yeah, you know, and you put

442
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Speaker 3: all your focus on that, like you got an argument,

443
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,680
Speaker 3: But I don't think that Travion's at that level.

444
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Speaker 1: You played, You played with so many fascinating players, and

445
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Speaker 1: really just off what you just said, because like you

446
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Speaker 1: come into the league. There's Ladanian Tomlinson, Okay, and he

447
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 1: ran it and but when he would catch it for

448
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 1: the screens, you know, he did the bit where look

449
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Speaker 1: at where they are, look back catch it, look back

450
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Speaker 1: quick by my spot and go, so he was patient

451
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Speaker 1: in letting everything form in front of him. Adrian clearly

452
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,639
Speaker 1: was mechanical catching the ball and was too impatient to

453
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Speaker 1: let like they never ran screens with Adrian. But then

454
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Speaker 1: you think about the player with whom he cut time.

455
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 1: And in two thousand and seven, his first year year,

456
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Speaker 1: second year here Chester Taylor, Chester was smooth, and he

457
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Speaker 1: was smooth in the passing game on the diminutive side,

458
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Speaker 1: so he was able to hide and like get Like

459
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Speaker 1: that game at Seattle, well he had the longest run

460
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Speaker 1: in the history of Minnesota Vikings football, one for ninety

461
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Speaker 1: one yards or something. I mean, so Chester could scoop too,

462
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Speaker 1: but Marshall Falk obviously a super high end at it.

463
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Speaker 1: But Trevion, that's one thing. Ramandre Stevenson not known for

464
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Speaker 1: his pass catching. He's not going to run away from you.

465
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Speaker 1: Watch him pick up a blitz. I mean, my man

466
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Speaker 1: knows the plays. He's big and strong and if you

467
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Speaker 1: got the wrong feet when you're coming at him, he's

468
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Speaker 1: going to put you right on your butt. Yeah, that

469
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Speaker 1: keeps you in the game. Well, that for sure, that

470
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Speaker 1: keeps you in the game. And look at look at

471
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Speaker 1: Aaron Jones and what he could do.

472
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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, he is half the size as Remadre,

473
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Speaker 3: but he's he's one of the best blitz pick up

474
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Speaker 3: running backs in the league because he's fearless and plays

475
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Speaker 3: with a lot of courage and right, you know, it's

476
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 3: such an interesting facet when you bring up just the

477
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Speaker 3: screen game and it just sounds so benign that it's like, oh,

478
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 3: it's a screen pass.

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Speaker 2: What's the you know what's so hard about it?

480
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Speaker 3: Right, it's you have to you have to time it

481
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Speaker 3: up to make sure the lineman get out there catch

482
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Speaker 3: the ball.

483
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Speaker 2: That's it.

484
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Speaker 3: But I think there's so much to do with pacing.

485
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Speaker 3: And that's the one thing that you know, Adrian was this.

486
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Speaker 3: He was a light switch. He's either on or off. Right,

487
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Speaker 3: He's just like when I get the ball in my hands, Yeah,

488
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Speaker 3: I know, no other thing than be all gas, no breaks,

489
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Speaker 3: and you'll never see a player I'm saying never who

490
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Speaker 3: blows the play.

491
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Speaker 2: Okay, he didn't know the play.

492
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Speaker 1: He went to the wrong spot, and he went his

493
00:23:56,119 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 1: will as opposed to offensive play callers will, and still

494
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Speaker 1: made seventy out of it.

495
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because again he'd either run around you or

496
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Speaker 2: run through. He those jump cuts were unbelievable.

497
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Speaker 3: But the thing that I think, you know, the great

498
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Speaker 3: past catching running backs what they have is they have pacing,

499
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Speaker 3: they have tempo. Yeah, they feel and that's what Ladanian

500
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Speaker 3: had and that's what a lot of the other the

501
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Speaker 3: greats had. I mean even Moel Da Moore had that,

502
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Speaker 3: you know when I was here any time.

503
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Speaker 1: And another two lane guy against whom you played, Matt

504
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Speaker 1: Fourte Matt Fourte the screen game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, so it's not only just to

506
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Speaker 3: get the set up, but it's also to know, just

507
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Speaker 3: like you brought up with Chester, it's how to kind

508
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Speaker 3: of hide. It's you don't have to go one hundred

509
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Speaker 3: miles an hour. It's about just kind of like setting

510
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Speaker 3: things up, taking it slow, using your vision, using your quick.

511
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Speaker 2: Feet, and then bursting when you need to burst.

512
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Speaker 3: And you know Adrian, you know he's one of the

513
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Speaker 3: best running backs ever, but he was just full steam

514
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Speaker 3: ahead at all times.

515
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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this two to close for Ben

516
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Speaker 1: thirteen person out one running back three tight ends. So

517
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Speaker 1: with three tight ends in a back, where does that

518
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Speaker 1: put the most stress on a defense when you're good

519
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Speaker 1: at it? Think La Rams or other teams who I

520
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 1: mean that's the Bears. I mean they morphed into that.

521
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Speaker 1: Lovelin's going to beat you with all this talent. Comet

522
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Speaker 1: is solid at a lot of things. And the other

523
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Speaker 1: notre Dame Kid durham smythe wa ain't going to throw

524
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Speaker 1: to him much, but he's not going to make mistakes

525
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Speaker 1: and protection or the running game. And then Swift and

526
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Speaker 1: Minung guy all of a sudden had wonderful seasons with

527
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Speaker 1: those tight ends. So thirteen personnel, where does it really

528
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Speaker 1: stress defenses?

529
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Speaker 3: You know, in a lot of ways, because every thirteen

530
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Speaker 3: personnel is different from team to team. You know, your

531
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Speaker 3: three tight ends could be on one given play, it

532
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Speaker 3: could be an H back type guy, yeah, Chris Cooley, Yeah,

533
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 3: could be like an H back. Then two real tight ends.

534
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Speaker 3: You know, one guy could be a big blocking tight end.

535
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 3: You got two big blocking tight ends and one guy

536
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,199
Speaker 3: that's more of a wide receiver that still has a

537
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Speaker 3: tight end number. So it's the way that these tight

538
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Speaker 3: ends are being used these days, and the athleticism that

539
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Speaker 3: they're playing with is remarkable. I mean, I don't know

540
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Speaker 3: if there's been a position that has progressed as much

541
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Speaker 3: in the NFL as much as the tight ends have

542
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Speaker 3: they can they're asked to do it all, and the

543
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Speaker 3: good ones can do it all. And when you get

544
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Speaker 3: the right mixture of the three, it stresses out which

545
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Speaker 3: linebacker safety is going to man up on who if

546
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Speaker 3: you're playing man defense, what's the down and distance and

547
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 3: how are they configured? You know, Yeah, they come off

548
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,719
Speaker 3: the sideline and you're sewing thirteen personnel and you get

549
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 3: your mind right, you make the right call. But once

550
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 3: they break the huddle, now you're like, okay, are they

551
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Speaker 3: both going to be in line right.

552
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Speaker 2: Next to the tackles?

553
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Speaker 3: Are there going to be like is he going to

554
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Speaker 3: look like twenty one personnel like pro personnel where they

555
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Speaker 3: have a guy's a fullback like a used check? Are

556
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Speaker 3: they going to be split out? And all of a sudden,

557
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Speaker 3: now you have three tight ends or going to act

558
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,959
Speaker 3: like wide receivers. You know, maybe not body types, but

559
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 3: maybe for that given play you got to honor that.

560
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 3: So it's then it's like this ultra communication that has

561
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 3: to happen between like who's got who? Like you know,

562
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Speaker 3: because when you get when you when you game plan

563
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 3: for that week, it's imperative that you know in those

564
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 3: thirteen personnel spots that like, Okay, no matter what, Blake Cashman,

565
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 3: you got this guy, I don't care where he lines up.

566
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Speaker 2: We're just going to have to adjust every time every time,

567
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Speaker 2: you know.

568
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Speaker 3: So we want to put your your athleticism on this

569
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 3: athletic guy. But if he they take that athletic guy

570
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 3: and move him down into the box, then how does

571
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 3: that change your defense? Now you're like, well, listen, now, us.

572
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Speaker 1: To do your job. Bit is just just don't believe

573
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: what you see. Just do your job. Will be okay,

574
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: I know.

575
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 3: But then all of a sudden, now you're putting guy

576
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Speaker 3: like I've in pace on a big that maybe split

577
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 3: out as a number A displaced number two that's more

578
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 3: playing than the slot, and like he's not comfortable in space.

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Speaker 1: Sounds like a time out. It sounds like a timeout

580
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: to nothing against Ivan. Just the whole situation, the way

581
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: you laid it out and with thirteen personnel, three tight

582
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: ends and a back and that's your thing, and you're

583
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: good at it. You get that thing going early in

584
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Speaker 1: the game and it's like, okay, well Pooka is the

585
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Speaker 1: primary here, Hey, good job on him. We're gonna check

586
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: down to Higbee and take the five and come right

587
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: back with these guys again, and you keep motoring down

588
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: the field or maneuvering down the field. This just sounds

589
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: like play action eighty over the top to somebody.

590
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 2: Once you get this thing going, yeah, I.

591
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 3: Mean it's an interesting personnel grouping. I'm glad you brought

592
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 3: it up. Thinks he's a lot to talk about and

593
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 3: it could be the new sexy. You know, everybody's going

594
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 3: to eleven personnel for a long time. It's still big

595
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 3: part of it. But if you can find a dynamic

596
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 3: and confusing thirteen personnel, yeah, that just might be the

597
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 3: personnel doujore for the next season.

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Speaker 1: My man, you're the very best. Thank you very much

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Speaker 1: for stopping by Monday and today. Enjoy the game and

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Speaker 1: we will watch you on television today beginning at three

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Speaker 1: o'clock on Channel five.

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Speaker 2: All right, love you good week and enjoyed the game.

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Speaker 2: I've been lever love it. Ben. Now Newsnord is next.

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Speaker 2: We'll start with the hockey team. How about Matt Bowldy last.

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Speaker 6: Night walks give it a lot of surface shots deflected

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Speaker 6: that off his goal stick. They start Pitts Boldy with

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Speaker 6: a hat trick. He got the rebound flicked at home.

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Speaker 6: It's his fourth career hat trick in the regular season.

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Speaker 6: There are hats pouring onto the ice there for Wild

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Speaker 6: fans at Britstone Arena and it's three one Minnesota.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, quick start to the it's the finale before the pause.

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Speaker 5: Of course, Wild now in a break until February twenty six.

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Speaker 5: They'll restart the season in Colorado. What a matchup that's

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Speaker 5: going to be right out of the gates, out of

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Speaker 5: the pause. They're going to be at the Aps. But

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Speaker 5: last night in Nashville before the Olympic pause, it was

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Speaker 5: Matt Boldy, just trying to get that rhythm going before

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Speaker 5: he heads to Milan. His thirtieth and thirty first goals

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Speaker 5: both within like three and a half minutes to start

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Speaker 5: the freaking game. So you spot him two. But then

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Speaker 5: it was Forrestburg on the power play. We know about

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Speaker 5: the PK unit of the Wild, the ups and downs

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Speaker 5: and trials and tribulations of that thing. And then you

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Speaker 5: hear thirty second goal of this season by Matt just

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Speaker 5: over midway through the first period. It's three to one

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Speaker 5: in favor of the Wild. But then it was Stamcos

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Speaker 5: on a power play. Then it was Eric Halla Halla

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Speaker 5: end of the first period.

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Speaker 2: Evangelista, what a name.

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Speaker 5: He took the lead less than a minute into the

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Speaker 5: second before yakof trending tied it up again late, So

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Speaker 5: you can get where this thing's going. The Wild weren't

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Speaker 5: comfortable last night, it feels like until they get into

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Speaker 5: the the extra period, as Tarasenko would get the five

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Speaker 5: to four lead, then it's Roman Yosi to tie it up.

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Speaker 5: Again requires overtime, and Spurgeon handled business from there a

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Speaker 5: minute left in.

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Speaker 2: The extra session.

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Speaker 6: Height careal Capriso fourteen career overtime winners, as they mentioned earlier,

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Speaker 6: four of them this year. They'll try it up Ice

654
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 6: passes Boldi turning in Poldy cross a Spurgeon shots, Jared

655
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 6: Spurgeon win did it over time?

656
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 5: How about that Spurgeon gets it six' five the final

657
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 5: of the wild get two. POINTS i got all kinds

658
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 5: of things bouncing around in my. HEAD i Think Quinn

659
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 5: hughes made they have set a franchise record with ten

660
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 5: consecutive games with an. Assist and then Also carill Capriz

661
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 5: off six four sixty eight six is The bradshaw And

662
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 5: BRYANT kfa in text. Line you can tell me If

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00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 5: i'm wrong on. THIS i saw. Something carill Capriz off

664
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 5: and his ninth. Point he got an assist on That spurgeon,

665
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 5: goal his ninth point in overtimes this. SEASON i think

666
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 5: he ties McDavid In. Dryseidel that's like all time hockey

667
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 5: in a. Season, Ye we've got a lot of games.

668
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 5: Left So carill and the squad this is their twenty

669
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 5: second or twenty third overtime, game so.

670
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 2: They're no strangers to. It they get the.

671
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 5: Chill players headed To milan starting maybe potentially today but

672
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 5: certainly Tomorrow friday in EARNEST i see, though those prelimb

673
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 5: games started to take place about a week from now

674
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 5: for The, olympics so fun times ahead for them as they.

675
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 2: Pause so that's the hockey.

676
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 5: Team how about THE nba team getting the win last

677
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 5: night one eight, one twenty six In. Toronto that's the

678
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 5: first time The wolves had won In toronto since two thousand.

679
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 5: Four so very different, team very different front, office all

680
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 5: things very different twenty one years. Ago but it Was

681
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 5: Anthony edwards with his thirty, points specifically just on a

682
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 5: heater in the fourth quarter to just essentially call.

683
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 2: Game did you? WATCH i didn't.

684
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 5: WATCH i was in, spots it WASN'T i don't have

685
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 5: time On wednesday nights to sit down and dig in.

686
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: Totally, YEAH i just wonder out because they were losing

687
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: WHEN i was checking the scores and the rest of the, game,

688
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: right and then all of a sudden they're up three extremely,

689
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: late and just find myself being happy For Finchy.

690
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 2: Fincy yeah he had, gosh was it twelve?

691
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 5: Points in the fourth, quarter Like anthony at one point

692
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 5: just was all in on getting the w. There now

693
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 5: that leads me to as we kind of run through,

694
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 5: things the trade deadline is earlier early this, Afternoon, pa

695
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 5: and just some things popping. Around you saw Yesterday Anthony

696
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 5: davis goes to The Wizards blockbuster as they would call,

697
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 5: it although you look at the names and you're, thinking,

698
00:33:54,640 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 5: Yeah blockbusters six years. Ago but D'Angelo, Russell Jaydenharday Dot Jayden,

699
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 5: Hardy Dante. Exam they go to The. Whiz, hey It's Chris.

700
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 5: MIDDLETON i Love chris not in his prime any. Longer SADLY. A. J,

701
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 5: Johnson Malachi, branham And Marvin bagley the third along with

702
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 5: a couple first and three second. Rounders that group is

703
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 5: headed To, dallas so they you can go online and figure. Out,

704
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 5: okay so what does the total final package look like

705
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 5: For luca going to Lah.

706
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 1: It's not in The MAVs as favor really is what we're.

707
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: Seeing they Despite Cooper flag being part of. It oh,

708
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: no that wasn't part of that. Package that's. Right they, wait,

709
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 1: yes they won the lottery from like the depths of.

710
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 5: Nowhere KPMG's like, man you guys screwed up trading Away.

711
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: Luca here's what we'll. Do you know WHERE i will

712
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: Credit dallas with. This this is this is an official

713
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: bottoming out. Restructuring and BECAUSE i Mean Cooper, flagg his

714
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: Former duke Teammate Konkain nipple was out playing him the

715
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 1: first half of the. Season Old cooper's tough to stop these. Days,

716
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: NO i Think cooper is going to be A bone five.

717
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,439
Speaker 2: Star he's. Awesome so they're building the whole thing around.

718
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 2: Him that's pretty.

719
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 5: Cool and they got some picks and things and some,

720
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 5: flexibility you could. Say and in the end he is

721
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 5: still a member of The. MAVs kyrie will come back

722
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 5: at some. Point, wow you can have fun with him

723
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 5: for a few.

724
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 1: Months, well so The wolves make this, trade are You, Disombo.

725
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 2: I'm going with are You Dison?

726
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 5: Mo, Okay, yeah we'll go with that until we get

727
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 5: official fanatics charts from the.

728
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 2: Team and that's.

729
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: Cool and you, know it was a rotation guard for

730
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: The bulls With Kobe white And Josh giddy And Kevin

731
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: herder and we've talked about really all of them for you,

732
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 1: know at least at parts over the last three weeks

733
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: when names would pop up and. Everything, WOW i forgot

734
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: About Kyrie irving off THE Acl why would they Want Kyrie.

735
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: IRVING i, mean If i'm a team that needs a

736
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: point and it vets out AND i can pay it

737
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: and it vets out, that, Well kyrie is going to

738
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: be back here and it's going to work and he's

739
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: gonna feel. Good, HEY i got. MAN i got to

740
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: Call dallas About kyrie well. BEFORE i mean, today you have.

741
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 5: To it's probably do just to see what they, say you, know,

742
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 5: YEAH i think IT'S i think the deadline's at two.

743
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 5: Pm Kobe white And Mike. Conley we had heard some

744
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 5: some news. Yesterday Mike, conley of, course being as part

745
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 5: of that three team bit being. Traded he was then

746
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 5: subsequently moved again to The Charlotte. Hornets so to The,

747
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 5: bulls love, You. Mike now to The hornets along With Kobe.

748
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 5: White there's some scuttle buck going around now That white

749
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 5: And conley are both In, charlotte that That conley could

750
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 5: be bought out and then potentially even come back To. Minnesota,

751
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 5: oh because he was a minimum, deal because he was traded.

752
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 2: Twice, yes it's that traded. Twice. Thing it's the traded

753
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 2: twice well with do soon? Move do soon?

754
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: Move from What i've watched or know about, him not, big,

755
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: unscoring not the greatest shooter that you've ever, seen but he's.

756
00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: Scrappy he's a very tough perimeter, defender can run the

757
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: point like a true point a true.

758
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 2: Quarterback, now over the course.

759
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: Of the last ten is, fifteen maybe twenty GAME i

760
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: JUST i really like How Dante DiVincenzo has settled into.

761
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: That AND i can't say at a point In JANUARY

762
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: i would have, said you, know, like, okay it's it's

763
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,240
Speaker 1: clicking WITH i, mean Because dante is setting up fellow

764
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 1: point guards, now beating them off the, dribble getting people

765
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: to collapse and, kicking and De vincenzo's work at point

766
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 1: to a certain extent has led The timberwolves over about

767
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: the last fifteen to twenty games being either the best

768
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: or second best three point shooting team in THE. Nba

769
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: devincenzo has a lot to do with that, Now so

770
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: this is.

771
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 5: Flexibility but you're not getting triples off the bench, Though

772
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 5: yeah in a mass and that's.

773
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: Wow so dis soon MoU might start. Him Put dante

774
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 1: on the bench, no, no, No i'm just thinking to.

775
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 5: Soon MoU shoots forty five percent from deep or is this,

776
00:37:58,440 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 5: year and.

777
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 2: So well that's really. GOOD i meansy shoot a game a. Bunch.

778
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 2: YEAH i think it's three or four that he's getting. Up,

779
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 2: Wow SO i still.

780
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 5: Know so if he's, making if he's giving you two

781
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 5: off the, bench, YEAH i MEAN i dig that he can.

782
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 5: Distribute he's got some nice assist, numbers and that's actually

783
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 5: something that's been. Growing And i'm not watching Every bulls,

784
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 5: game but the balancing Of Kobe, white who's had some

785
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 5: calf or some bit that keeps him in and out

786
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 5: every other it feels, like and then relying maybe more.

787
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 2: On a dissouon. Move, uh he could be a nice contributor.

788
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 2: HERE i think.

789
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 5: There you, know the The yannis steam was building to

790
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 5: the point where even even the pessimist of pessimists was

791
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 5: kind of, LIKE i think there is this going to.

792
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 2: Happen, yeah but.

793
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 5: It feels like that has faded because What i've What

794
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 5: i've been seeing the regression of the steam and then

795
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 5: added On, milwaukee, well there.

796
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 2: Really is no no.

797
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 5: Urgency you, know obviously this is something we want to

798
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 5: figure out how we can either make it. Work, uh

799
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 5: the summer free agency is potentially a spot as, well

800
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 5: so it appears as though the steam behind it A yannis.

801
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 5: Move it will either be according to, insiders it would

802
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 5: either be The Minnesota timberwolves or The Miami heat that

803
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,479
Speaker 5: acquire his. Services but if it doesn't happen, today then

804
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 5: that opens it up to free, agency in Which i'm

805
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 5: sure many more suitors would potentially become a part of the.

806
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: Conversation it's so hard to trade a player Like giannis

807
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 1: with the money he, makes the injuries he's, incurred where

808
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: he is at this stage of his.

809
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 5: Career you got to go to four teams for picks and.

810
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 5: ALL i, mean that's a that's a.

811
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: Process, well it just feels from Afar milwaukee's like He

812
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: Kitty kiddy if it was probably like The patriots when

813
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: people tried to trade up to their spot For Drake.

814
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: May all, right, well well, listen but we're starting WITH

815
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: i don't, know four first round draft picks and this, guy,

816
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 1: sure which could be too, high but that's what that's

817
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: Where milwaukee probably is. Starting, well don't you think that

818
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: the would his value be higher? Now the urgency of

819
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: a team like The wolves are somebody, that, oh you

820
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: got to get in Because i'm going to have fewer

821
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,959
Speaker 1: competitors in this. Conversation and this is the now and

822
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 1: potentially winning a title versus the summer where everyone kind

823
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 1: of gets to chill a little bit and everything resets

824
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: that if you're if you're the, BOX i, mean you

825
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: want to shoot the moon with this, thing, Right? Yeah

826
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: BUT i mean it's The wolves with the with the

827
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: deal where they Drafted Walker kessler and traded him and you,

828
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: know ended up not having first well having first round

829
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: picks every other year so that they don't have a

830
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 1: bevy of first round picks to include in the. Situation

831
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 1: If milwaukee is so, inclined, uh personally, speaking if a

832
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 1: trade Involved jaden McDaniels And Julius, RANDALL i can't do.

833
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 2: It it's just too.

834
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,959
Speaker 1: Much and And giannis is a player and a, half

835
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 1: maybe up to two players when he's healthy. HIMSELF i

836
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: JUST i, KNOW i DON'T i don't want to give

837
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: up two of my two of my most key four

838
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: for one who misses too many games because of a. Calf,

839
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: yeah and you got to pay, him And Milwaukee, bucks you,

840
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: know this is the time of the year where you

841
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: get the teams involved in trade rumors and distractions take

842
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:10,720
Speaker 1: place within the. Covenant milwaukee super distracted last night scored

843
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: one forty one Against New.

844
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 2: Orleans and won the.

845
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: GAME Aj, Green Miles, Turner Emir, Coffee Kyle, Kuzma Ryan,

846
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: Rollins Gary Trent. Junior they're kind of, like, yeah just

847
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 1: let him. LEAVE i, mean more money for. Us watch

848
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 1: us go out and score one one Against. Zion's listen

849
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: to those names and. RATTLED i was, THINKING i. Know

850
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: and Then Jericho, Simms Kevin Kevin Porter, Junior, Coffee Kevin

851
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: Porter junior came back last night gave him eighteen nine

852
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: and six with five.

853
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 2: Steals Ryan rollins is.

854
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,919
Speaker 1: GOOD i didn't know Who Ryan rollins, was still don't

855
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: until we started Drafting League, freak And i'm, Like Ryan, rollins,

856
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: WELL i mean he had twenty seven last night with four.

857
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 5: Assists And Ryan rollins has good. Games and that's Why

858
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 5: jimmy k took him in the third.

859
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 2: Round, no that was.

860
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 5: Level so so we have AND i got this from

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Speaker 5: the text. Line i'm going to trust. It minnesota native

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Speaker 5: living In champagne attended all A lini.

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