1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: Now your host Ken Brew on news radio seven hundred WLW. 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 2: What a glorious day it is in the tri State. 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 2: Here you are on this Saturday before Christmas. Everybody is out. 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: It seems like at the Kenwood Town Center. I look 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: over there. Well, most saturdays it's like that, but now 6 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 2: it just appears like it's it's completely out of control. 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: I made a joking remark this week that Kenwood Town 8 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: Center is the reason why God invented Amazon. And I'm 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: not quite so sure that should be a joking reference. 10 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 2: It might be true, you know. He said, let there 11 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 2: be light, and then after he saw the Kenwood Town 12 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 2: Center at Christmas, he said, man, let there be Amazon 13 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 2: dot Com. If you're out there today, please be careful. 14 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 2: I hate it when people say that to me. You 15 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 2: walk out the door, please be careful. WHOA what do 16 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 2: you think? I'm not going to be careful, But you know, 17 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: it's you know, if somebody cuts you off, or you know, 18 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 2: if it's the last parking spot and there's two cars 19 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: it looks like that are ready to attack the spot, 20 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 2: just back off. There'll be something that opens up in 21 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 2: a couple of minutes. It has been a big week 22 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:10,559 Speaker 2: for weed huge week for weed, both good and bad 23 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: if you're so inclined to partake in weed. First off, 24 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 2: the President signed an executive order this past week that could, 25 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: and the emphasis is on the word could, reclassify marijuana 26 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: as a less dangerous drug. Right now, marijuana is a 27 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 2: Schedule one drug and that would put it in the 28 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 2: same classification as heroin LSD. And what the President is 29 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 2: doing is trying to get it to a Schedule three substance, 30 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 2: which would put it in the same class as things 31 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 2: like ketamine and some anabolic steroids. What this means is 32 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: reclassification by the DEA would not not make it legal 33 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: for recreational use by adults nationwide, but it could there's 34 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 2: that word again, could change how the drug is regulated 35 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 2: and reduce a hefty tax burden on the cannabis industry. 36 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: Right now, medical marijuana is allowed by about forty states 37 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: and the District of Columbia, So that was on one hand. 38 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: On the other hand, this week, just yesterday, the Governor 39 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 2: of Ohio, on an expiring term, this would be the 40 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 2: Honorable Mike DeWine, struck down a provision that was in 41 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 2: Senate Bill fifty six. That Senate Bill fifty six basically 42 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 2: said that THC drinks in their present form could be 43 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 2: sold anywhere in the state of Ohio. Dwine does not 44 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 2: want THC drinks. And so when Bill SENATETIL fifty six 45 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: got there to his desk, it carved out he carved 46 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: out basically that provision, and it gets into milligrams and 47 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 2: how much are allowed per container. And basically what it 48 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 2: means is that places that sell THHC drinks, you know, 49 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 2: the infused seltzers, are now scrambling to get them off 50 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 2: the shelves. And if I'm reading this correctly, they've got 51 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 2: to get them off the shelves and got to be 52 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: done selling them within ninety days of the wine signing 53 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 2: this bill, which would make it the middle of March. 54 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 2: So what does this mean for you? What does that 55 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: mean for me if we indulge in these kinds of things? 56 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 2: And can you really, in this day and age legislate morality. 57 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: This ain't nineteen twenty and it's not prohibition. And I'm 58 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 2: just wondering what the weed industry thinks about this. So 59 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: who better to be a spokesman for the weed industry 60 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 2: at this particular point in time in the tri State 61 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 2: than the weed Man himself. That would be Jerry J. 62 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: Mann Joiner. He is all things weed. He has his 63 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 2: own television show, Weed and Whiskey TV. And the only 64 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 2: other person I know know that goes up in smoke 65 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 2: more than Jerry Joyner, it's Willie Nelson. And perhaps they 66 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: know each other. I don't know. We'll find out here 67 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 2: in just a second. But let's get into this and 68 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 2: what happened with Trump this week, and also what happened 69 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: with the wine and Jerry Joyner. How are you on 70 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 2: this glorious Saturday. 71 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 3: Well, I'm doing great, ken, and thank you for those accolades. 72 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 3: Just being in the same sentence with my patriot, Saint 73 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 3: Willie Nelson is a real compliment. 74 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 4: Thank you for that. 75 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 2: Now you know what happened up here yesterday, I'm sure, 76 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 2: And that's the governor of Ohio looked at Senate Bill 77 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: fifty six, which had passed the House, hadn't passed the Senate, 78 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: and said, you know what, No, I don't like that. 79 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 2: I'm going to wea to veto the part and take 80 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: out the part where we're going to allow THHC infused 81 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 2: drinks greatly reduce things like even selling him even selling 82 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 2: marijuana here in the great state of Ohio. Now, when 83 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 2: you saw something like that, what did you think. 84 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 3: Well, you know that the headline kind of got on 85 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 3: the THC, which it seems like Governor de Wine wants. 86 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 3: So it is to only be sold in the marijuana dispensaries. 87 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 3: No more gas stations, sea stores on the corner or 88 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 3: any of those places, or. 89 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 4: The vape shops. 90 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 3: Even at this point, for milligrams, is such a minute 91 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 3: trace that a big fat boy like me might not 92 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 3: even show up in a drug dest That is. 93 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 4: That minute of an amount. 94 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 3: But I think as I did a little research, I 95 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 3: found some more interesting things besides the THHC drink issue. Uh, 96 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 3: marijuana must now be stored in its original packaging and 97 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 3: kept in the trunk of a vehicle while driving. You 98 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 3: that again, it says that marijuana must be stored in 99 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 3: its original packaging and kept in the trunk of a 100 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 3: vehicle while driving out an SUV that doesn't have a trunk. 101 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 2: That's true, and and and so you got to run 102 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 2: out and buy some of those baggies at the grocery store, Koger, 103 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 2: You're gonna have to go out and get some of 104 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 2: those and use them for other things, because you know, 105 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: a lot of people just throw it in there, you know, 106 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: they buy it, they throw it in there, seal it 107 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 2: up and everything's five. Well, you can't do that anymore. 108 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 2: You have to use those baggies for something else. 109 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 4: Yes, that's right. 110 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 3: You know that packaging back in the day was just 111 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 3: a clear baggie. Let you see exactly what was in there. 112 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 3: And now we've moved to big marketing where you've got 113 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 3: colorfual graphics, some of them appealing too much towards children. 114 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 3: And of course it does allow for some labeling and 115 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 3: some information which we really never got that on those 116 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 3: just clear baggies that we bought. You know, it's also 117 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 3: going to be a state crime now if you went 118 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 3: to like Michigan, bought you a little pot and brought 119 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 3: it back. 120 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 2: So this bill that the Senate passed, it had an 121 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 2: exemption for THC infused beverages. At Ohio would have been 122 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 2: allowed to sell these things in breweries and bars with 123 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 2: no more than five milligrams of THC for serving. That's 124 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 2: what DeWine did want. He outlawed that. 125 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 3: Now he says, yeah, use the line item veto to 126 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 3: immediately ban that. 127 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 4: Well, I say immediately, you've got until. 128 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 3: Twenty March of twenty twenty six for them to depinish 129 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 3: their inventory. 130 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,119 Speaker 2: So if I went down to my local liquor store 131 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 2: right now, I could if he has it, I could 132 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 2: still buy a THC infuse drink with about five milligrams 133 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 2: of THCHC. But the guy that owns the place has 134 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: got to clear the product and it's got to be 135 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 2: off the shelves within ninety days three months, which would 136 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: be the middle of March. But let me go back 137 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: to something else here. What's the difference in terms of 138 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 2: what a THC drink will do for you? What's the 139 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 2: difference between five milligrams which the wine says no, and 140 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 2: zero point four milligrams, which he says, okay. Up to 141 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 2: that you can sell it, but anything over that you 142 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 2: got to go to a licensed marijuana dispensary. So just 143 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: to what it does to you, what's the difference between 144 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: five milligrams of EHC and point four milligrams of THHC. 145 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 3: Ken, let's compare them to beer. A point four is 146 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 3: going to be a non alcoholic beer. That's about what 147 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 3: it's going to do to you. A five milligram is 148 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 3: going to be like a regular beer a two point 149 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 3: five milligram, which is what oj Man recommends people to 150 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 3: try if they're new to this and they want to 151 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 3: see how it compares to to beer and those those 152 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 3: things two point five milligrams. But again, it also depends 153 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 3: on the size of the can. There's some there's some. 154 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 3: I think it's a twelve ounce can't five milligrams is 155 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 3: not as much. 156 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 4: THC is a two point five milligram. 157 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 3: And in a in that small shot thing that they 158 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 3: have now, so. 159 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 2: You've got to a degree in chemistry to figure out 160 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 2: all this. 161 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 4: It really does. 162 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 3: Used to we just took a piece of rolling paper, 163 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 3: got the seeds out, rolled a joint up, and smoked it. 164 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 3: And now there's so many ways that you can get 165 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 3: THC into your system. 166 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're right, but so so the bottom line 167 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 2: of all of this is, despite the fact that the 168 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 2: Senate will pass, despite the fact that recent surveys show 169 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 2: at about sixty five sixty six percent of Ohioans like 170 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 2: it the way it is, our marijuana, our THC laws, 171 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 2: the things governing those products to be you know, as 172 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 2: free and as loose as possible. The governor says no, no, 173 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 2: we're not going to do that. Anything like that goes 174 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 2: to a dispensary. And if you want to go to 175 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,479 Speaker 2: your local liquor store and buy a can of THHC 176 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,719 Speaker 2: or whatever it is, can't do that after March of 177 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. So it just means you're probably going 178 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 2: to be taking your business elsewhere. 179 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 3: Right, Well, let's hope that it doesn't go underground or 180 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 3: to the black market. You know, the flower aspect of marijuana, 181 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 3: cannabis our snip which they call THC a now is 182 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 3: still very very popular, and that's going to be difficult 183 00:09:55,640 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 3: for the cartails and organized client people to get in 184 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 3: the drink business. It's easy for them to sell that flower, 185 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 3: but getting into the drink business is a whole different arena. 186 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 3: And I believe by this time next year you'll be 187 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 3: able to get those THC drinks in a two point 188 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 3: five milligram dose at your liquor stores. I think the 189 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 3: liquor industry is going to take over the THHC drinks. 190 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 3: You know, they keep trying to carve out the drinks 191 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 3: from everything else. Book on the federal level, and now 192 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 3: as we see what the governor do wine on the 193 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 3: state level, so there's something up with the drinks in 194 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 3: how it's going to replace beer in the next five years. 195 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 2: Well, you know that's interesting because that would fly in 196 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 2: the face of what this from what I can see, 197 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 2: what this law says, because as we mentioned earlier, anything 198 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 2: more than point four milligrams per curtainer per container have 199 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 2: to be sold and licensed marijuana dispensaries. So I guess 200 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 2: you're just basically moving state money from a marijuana dispensary 201 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 2: to a liquor store, right. I mean, it sounds like 202 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 2: it's a book keeping problem for the state of Ohio, 203 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 2: is what it sounds like it's going to be. 204 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 3: Jory State has these of how they're going to deal 205 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 3: with this, and I think the main thing people need 206 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 3: to keep in mind, kid is make sure and don't 207 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 3: drink more than one of these drinks until you see 208 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 3: how it affects you and use common sense. That's something 209 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty six we all need a big dose 210 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 3: of it's common sense. 211 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 2: Well now, in another front on the marijuana level, President 212 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 2: Trump this past week signed an executive order that could 213 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 2: reclassify marijuana to a less dangerous drug and that would 214 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 2: open up new avenues for medical research. That would be 215 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 2: a shift in federal drug policy, and it gets to 216 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 2: where a lot of other states are with this. So 217 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 2: he's trying to deal with this on the federal level. 218 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 2: And from what I read, this reclassification by the DEA 219 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 2: would not make it legal for recreational utes by adults nationwide, 220 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 2: but it could, and emphasize the word, could change how 221 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 2: the drug is regulated and reduce a hefty tax burden 222 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 2: on the cannabis industry. So how do you view someone 223 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 2: that understands as this someone that lives his life in 224 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 2: a haze of smoke? Jerry Joinder? How do you view 225 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 2: what President Trump did last week? 226 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 3: I do it is a good thing for the industry 227 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 3: and for the people because it will loosen up the 228 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 3: restrictions on research. You know, we've been very limited on 229 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 3: the research into marijuana just because of it being illegal 230 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 3: on a federal level, and so this has been to 231 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 3: allow for more dollars to flow for research. It's supposed 232 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 3: to help the good players in the industry with their 233 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 3: two ade tax situation, which has been a burden on 234 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 3: a lot of these players. 235 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 4: But I found it interesting. 236 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 3: A good friend of mine, David Charles, who is the 237 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 3: CEO of a company called Mood that tells one hundred 238 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 3: million dollars worth of thc or hip products online across 239 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 3: the country within the White House, and you would have 240 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 3: thought he would have been like, oh, what are they. 241 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 2: Doing to us? 242 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 3: So that lets me think that there's something still going 243 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 3: on behind the scenes, that this hip stuff will come back, 244 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 3: but it'll just be in the liquor stores are where 245 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 3: beer is normally being sold in a different fashion with 246 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 3: better in safer products. That's what let's all hope. 247 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 2: Biden tried to do what Trump did, but never really 248 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 2: took up the issue. Trump did it, but a lot 249 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 2: of his Republican cohorts are not happy that he's doing this. 250 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 2: A lot of the people that governed in the South, 251 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 2: particularly people like North Carolina Senator Ted Budd says that 252 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 2: it's dangerous and this shift would undermine strong efforts made 253 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: by Trump. I don't know. I think anything that's unknown 254 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 2: tends to scare people. It took us a very long 255 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 2: time in this stage, Jerry to get legalized gambling. You know, 256 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 2: the opposition was running commercials where it was some dude 257 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 2: dressed up like the devil talking about the devil. We 258 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 2: were all going to go to hell. And you know, 259 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 2: right now, I don't sense anybody is getting burned. I 260 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 2: only maybe people with you know, an addiction to gambling 261 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 2: that they can't cure. But the fact of the matter 262 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 2: is always said this, it's very difficult to legislate morality. 263 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 2: It's a very difficult thing to do in the American 264 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 2: society that we live in right now. And now that 265 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 2: the toothpaste is out of the tube, so to speak, 266 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 2: with marijuana, I don't sense that anybody is going to 267 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 2: be successful taking things back. I think it's going to 268 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 2: have to be a very thoughtful and very prodigious step 269 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 2: forward with all of these things. But going back, I 270 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: just don't think that's going to work. 271 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 3: Your thoughts, well, we learned that from prohibition, right you know, 272 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 3: the Americans they wanted alcohol even though the government made 273 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 3: it illegal. They still found ways to get alcohol, no 274 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 3: different than gambling. And so if we allow these things 275 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 3: that people want to be legal, but regulated in thoughtful, 276 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 3: proper manners, I think it's a good thing because, as 277 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 3: you said, Kim, Americans are gonna kind of we're built 278 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 3: that way. If we want something, we're going to go 279 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 3: get it. And let's just make sure what we want 280 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 3: and we get it safe. That's the moral of all 281 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 3: this to me. 282 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 2: So your prediction is by November of next year, despite 283 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 2: what the governor signed into law this past week, your 284 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 2: prediction is in November of twenty twenty six that these 285 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 2: THC infused drinks and not the ones that are limited 286 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 2: by zero point four milligrams. Your prediction is that they 287 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 2: will be available in liquor stores in November twenty sixth 288 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 2: I am I hearing you correctly. 289 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 3: That's my prediction for what it's worth. And I also 290 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 3: think we'll see a reduction in the amount of what 291 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 3: we call flour or the plant that the people smoke. 292 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 4: You know, across the country. I hear people complain all 293 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 4: the time. Jay Man. 294 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 3: You know, I don't mind people smoking pot, but I 295 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 3: don't want to smell it everywhere I go. I had 296 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 3: a friend tell me the other day he could smell 297 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 3: it going down the highway coming out of somebody's guard right, 298 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 3: So first of all, don't drive around and smoke it. 299 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 3: But you know, if the drinks are a way for 300 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 3: people to get the THCHC and it takes away from 301 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 3: them wanting to smoke, that I think that's a good thing, 302 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 3: even for myself. 303 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 4: At my agent. 304 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 3: Willy doesn't smoke anymore, but he's got his own Willy's remedy, 305 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 3: but he's got his own drink right uh. And and 306 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 3: so if we see a change in people's attitudes moving 307 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 3: towards Hey, I want this TC in my system, but 308 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 3: I'll get it from drinking instead of smoking. That will 309 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 3: really reduce the black markets a huge hold on this, 310 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 3: so right Will. 311 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 2: He's also got a song about it. He rolled me 312 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 2: up and smoked me. When I die. 313 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 4: You hear that one. 314 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 2: When I die, I have another one. 315 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 4: It's all going the pot. We lock it or not. 316 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 2: Jay Man, it's it's great catching up with you. You 317 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 2: have a merry Christmas and stay out of trouble, all right. 318 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 4: You two can't talk to you next year. 319 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 2: There's a Yeah, there's a guy that knows his weed. 320 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 2: But I I think when the Governor's office turns over, 321 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 2: whether it's acting God help us all or if it's 322 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 2: a nswami, I think this thing will come before the 323 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 2: governor again. If the legislature stays read. I think this 324 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 2: whole thing comes before the governor again, whoever it may be. 325 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 2: And I think it passes without line item veto. I 326 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 2: just do I just you know, okay, I think there 327 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 2: are a lot of people that were disappointed, a lot 328 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 2: of people that were happy. But it sounds like the 329 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 2: overwhelming majority in this state if you look at the polling, 330 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 2: one in fifty six to pass without without challenge or change. 331 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 2: So keep your antenna up. There you go. The j 332 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 2: man said, come next November, it's all going to change. 333 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 2: We're twelve twenty five right now, right here on this 334 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 2: December news Radio seven hundred WLW Torld forty one. On 335 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 2: this Saturday, Welcome back News Radio seven hundred WLW. 336 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 5: I am. 337 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 2: On the program today John Houston, who is an Ohio senator. 338 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 2: Don't feel badly if you don't know who the guy is. 339 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 2: Forty percent of the people in Ohio apparently don't know 340 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 2: who John Houston is in a recent poll. Anyway, he 341 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 2: is filling out the term that JD. Vance was elected 342 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 2: to when Vance became the Vice President of the United States. 343 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 2: And anyway, John Houston wants to run again on his 344 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 2: own And like I said, forty percent of the state 345 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 2: don't know who John Houston is. So who the hell 346 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 2: is this guy and why does he want to continue 347 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 2: being a senator. And if he is the man that 348 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 2: could get lost in a phone booth all by himself, 349 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 2: what's the point of sending him back to Washington. We'll 350 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 2: get into that at one o'clock with Rebecca Downs from 351 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 2: the Daily Signal. Also, the best and worst airlines to 352 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,959 Speaker 2: travel during this holiday season. Believe it or not, there 353 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 2: are more than a few you might be on heading 354 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 2: out to wherever you're going for Christmas in the New 355 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 2: Year's that are not so let's say, reliable. And then 356 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 2: what's going on in Venezuela. I mean, what is exactly 357 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 2: is Trump doing down there? He's got a blockade of 358 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 2: the country, He's blowing up drug boats from Venezuela, and 359 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 2: it looks like he's going to going to make a 360 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 2: move on Meduro down there. Some thought he would say 361 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 2: something about that in his speech to the country a 362 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 2: couple of nights ago, but he did not. But it 363 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 2: looks like there are very good odds of something happening 364 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 2: militarily between the United States and Venezuela. We'll get into 365 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 2: that with a guy who is knee deep in that 366 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 2: story at the two of six, Bill Conroy. All of 367 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 2: that and more Oh, and by the way, the Epstein 368 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 2: files are being released, what it's left of them over 369 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 2: the course of the last twenty four hours they've been 370 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 2: released by the DOJ. But of course, the Democrats aren't 371 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 2: really interested in anything inside the Epstein files unless it 372 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 2: incriminates Donald Trump. Uh, you got a guy, Democrat, Representative Garcia, 373 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 2: we will take legal action of Trump continues to stonewall 374 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 2: on the Epstein files. And then, of course you've got 375 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 2: the squad. You have congress Woman Ayana Presley. She's accusing 376 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 2: Trump of a brazen cover up with redacted Epstein files. 377 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 2: You want to know if it's redacted in the files 378 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: that they've bet. They got Bill Clinton. They got a 379 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 2: picture of Bill Clinton in a bathtub with another woman 380 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 2: who's whose whose eyes have been redacted, and they're only 381 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 2: redacting apparently pictures and things inside pictures that involve victims 382 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 2: or people that are not named inside the Epstein files. 383 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 2: Per se, they got Clinton laying in some bathtub. They 384 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 2: got another picture of swimming in a pool with the 385 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 2: Maxwell chick that was Epstein's right hand person. And I've 386 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 2: said this, and I said it really since all of 387 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 2: this popped up, if the Democrats were so damned interested 388 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 2: in the Epstein files, then why weren't they all over 389 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 2: getting them released when they had power White House, Senate, 390 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 2: House of Representatives from twenty twenty one through twenty twenty three, 391 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one January through twenty twenty three January. They 392 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 2: had two years to do it, and of course they 393 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 2: didn't because they know that most of the people that 394 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 2: are inside those files, most of the people of note, 395 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 2: at least the ones we've seen so far, but they 396 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 2: probably knew it would be embarrassing to their party. But 397 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 2: they really don't give a rats rear end about Bill 398 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 2: Clinton or his wife Hillary. They don't give really a 399 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 2: rats rear end about Barack Obama anymore. They want something 400 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 2: that's going to get Trump, get Trump, stop Trump, Orange 401 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 2: Man Bad, And of course the syncophants in the news 402 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 2: media that you hear and see all over the place, 403 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 2: that's what they want too. But if there was something 404 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 2: about Trump inside the Epstein files that they had the 405 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,959 Speaker 2: ability to get and get out and preempt Donald Trump 406 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 2: from running again, don't you think they would have done that? 407 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 2: Because the only thing that the Democrats really have been 408 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 2: interested in since twenty fifteen is stopping Donald Trump. What 409 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 2: the hell else have they done? Well, well, they've been 410 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 2: pretty good obstructionists for the last eleven or twelve months. 411 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 2: But the fact of the matter is they would have 412 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 2: and they would have put those files out and be 413 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 2: damned whether or not Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama 414 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 2: or Michelle Obama were inside those files, they wouldn't have cared. 415 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 2: So why did they do it? Chris? There's probably nothing 416 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 2: in there about Donald Trump. Well, he has pictures in there, 417 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 2: he's posing with Epstein, he's got some young women around him. 418 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 2: There's nothing in there that's incriminated him. It's just it's very, 419 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,160 Speaker 2: very weird. And so now when they're not the these 420 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 2: files aren't being released quickly enough, and because the files 421 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,479 Speaker 2: have names in there that need to be redacted who 422 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 2: aren't necessarily victims or suspects or anything else. Now it's 423 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 2: you know, there's something that's hiding, something, hiding something. Well, 424 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 2: you could have gotten everything that was in there, you 425 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 2: could have gotten from January twenty one to January twenty three, 426 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 2: and this whole business about well, you know, they didn't 427 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 2: want to release them back then because it would be 428 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 2: embarrassing the Democrats. It's crazy. The number one thing on 429 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 2: that side of the aisle was get Trump, and when 430 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 2: they couldn't stop Trump. Now all you've heard about was 431 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 2: Epstein files, Epstein's files, and Epstein get the Epstein files out, 432 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 2: and when there's nothing in there, they'll move on to 433 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 2: something else. Every time it seems like they start down 434 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 2: the road to something like this, they step on a 435 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 2: rake and hit themselves in the groin. Oh anyway, stand 436 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 2: by the DOJ is releasing it and we'll see exactly 437 00:23:56,119 --> 00:24:00,719 Speaker 2: what's in it. But I can't believe that this things. Well, 438 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 2: when when did Epstein allegedly off himself? Was it twenty nineteen? 439 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 2: We're six years down the road and we're all worked 440 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 2: up in a lather over the Epstein files. Okay, you 441 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,959 Speaker 2: know I mentioned it was twelve forty one, and in 442 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 2: most places it is twelve forty one. But as you 443 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 2: and I both know, five o'clock somewhere, it's one for you, 444 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 2: one for me. Somebody's gone a little Miami, haven't they. 445 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 2: That's good stuff? Pop top again, Yes, yes, yes, yes, 446 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,719 Speaker 2: a jans. I've just got time for one more round. 447 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 2: Set them up, my friend, and what happens after that? 448 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 6: Then? 449 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 7: Now be gone? 450 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 2: You can let some other sick. Dawn gotta be sterling. 451 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 2: He's in a three oh six, and I would stay 452 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 2: tuned for all the various high jinks that goes along 453 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 2: with a sterling program. College football player playoffs continue right 454 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 2: now Miami and Texas. A and m are scoreless with 455 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 2: four minutes to go first quarter, and that is out 456 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 2: in College Station Texas. Later on, we've got James Madison 457 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 2: University at Oregon at seven thirty. At three point thirty, 458 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 2: it's two Lane at Mississippi, the Lane Kiffin less University 459 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 2: of Mississippi. Last night, If you didn't see it, you 460 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 2: watch one of the great meltdowns in college football, and 461 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 2: that occurred when Oklahoma saw a lead slip away. They 462 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 2: were up seventeen to nothing in this game, and then 463 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 2: it started a hemorrhage. And in the final analysis, Alabama 464 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 2: thirty four, Oklahoma twenty four. Over the first twenty minutes 465 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 2: of that game, when Oklahoma went up seventeen sid it 466 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 2: looked like it was going to be a blowout. In 467 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 2: the first twenty minutes of that game, Alabama had a 468 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 2: grand total of twelve yards of offense. But then things 469 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 2: started to go haywire. Alabama came alive in this I 470 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 2: would say the next twenty twenty five minutes maybe and 471 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 2: flip the script out gaining Oklahoma one ninety four to 472 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 2: fifty nine. And then there was just meltdowns on a drive, 473 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 2: a fourth down touchdown toss before that, a big third 474 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 2: down conversion, and you could just sense the momentum building. 475 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 2: And Oklahoma has not done any favors with its special teams, miskicks, 476 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 2: block field goals, you name it. And that led to 477 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 2: this joyous celebration out on the field by Caitlin de Boor, 478 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 2: who was the head coach of Alabama and in some 479 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:52,479 Speaker 2: circles still held up and compared to his predecessor, Nick Saban. 480 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 2: But here is de Boor jubilant. It seems like, well 481 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 2: jubilant for him on the field after the game. 482 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 8: Yeah, just our guys have, like you said, I had 483 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 8: been in it all year long, and and uh what's 484 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 8: up man? Uh, just I'm proud of the fight. I 485 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 8: know I'm gonna get that every single time we step 486 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 8: on the football field. We had to trade our own 487 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 8: breaks a little bit. We knew it was gonna be 488 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:12,959 Speaker 8: a fist fight. We knew it's gonna be a physical 489 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 8: game would be hard moving the ball, but you just 490 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 8: gotta you just gotta keep playing well. 491 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 2: The next one will be the easy one, that's for sure. Meanwhile, 492 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 2: over on the Oklahoma side of things, the head coach 493 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 2: Brent Fvennables was well, let's just say during his news conference, 494 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 2: he was sniffing the tears. Here's Brent Vennable. 495 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 9: You know, I had a seventeen point lead, had great momentum, 496 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:37,959 Speaker 9: and and just we lost the momentum and gave up 497 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 9: a seventy five yard drive and the third and six 498 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 9: that we lost leveraging coverage and then gave up a 499 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 9: fourth and two on that drive. And you know, Alabama's 500 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 9: got a really good football team and really good staff, 501 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 9: and they were able to start to slowly but surely 502 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 9: creep back into the game. And and then we had 503 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 9: a couple of really ill timed mistakes that they capital. 504 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 2: No kidding, no kidden. It was good. It was an 505 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 2: eight to nine matchup. It was a good matchup. I 506 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 2: thought it was a fun game to watch. But you 507 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 2: could just tell watching that game that Oklahoma had no 508 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 2: idea how to stop the steamroller after it turned around 509 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 2: and came after them. So it's Alabama. That moves on, 510 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 2: Oklahoma goes home, and more fun and frivolity as today 511 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 2: goes on and the next week everybody gets into the action. 512 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 2: Tomorrow it is Cincinnati against Miami in the National Football League, Yes, 513 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 2: the Bengals. In a just a couple of minutes, probably 514 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 2: we'll be boarding a plane and heading down to Miami 515 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 2: where it's supposed to have a game time temperature somewhere 516 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 2: in the low eighties. Start difference right from what we 517 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 2: had to sit through last Sunday here with the Ravens. Nevertheless, 518 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 2: both of these teams are out of it, and what 519 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 2: it becomes is it becomes a showcase really for players 520 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 2: that maybe the team is fence sitting on right. It's 521 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 2: gonna Schamar Stewart is a guy that he'll be around 522 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 2: next year, but he hasn't shown much this year either 523 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 2: when he was in there healthy yer and now he's 524 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 2: coming off of an injury. So it's a big game 525 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 2: for him. Two rookie linebackers, big game for them. Some 526 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 2: players in the secondary who have underperformed, big game for them. 527 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 2: Defensive line, who's bringing the heat, you know, Trey Hendricks in. 528 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 2: It looks like that boat has sailed here and no 529 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 2: Joseph Asside tomorrow. So some of the other folks like 530 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 2: Miles Murphy is a has it been a canard the 531 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 2: last two or three weeks or is he for real? Nevertheless, 532 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,479 Speaker 2: here's the head coach, Zach Taylor, saying, I still believe 533 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:45,719 Speaker 2: in what this team offers. 534 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 10: I got a ton of belief in our coaching staff, 535 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 10: our scouting department, our ownership, that we are very much 536 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 10: in alignment with every decision we've ever made here, and 537 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 10: so again, when things haven't been good enough over the 538 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 10: course of this season, there's really no one to blame 539 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 10: other than me, and so I know we all play 540 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 10: a piece of this, but I'm the guy to get 541 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 10: to sit there and talk to the team every single 542 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 10: week to present plans and make end game decisions, and 543 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 10: so frustrating that I haven't done any job this year, 544 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 10: but a ton of confidence, and maybe it rings hollow 545 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 10: to everyone listening, but I know that we've been here 546 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 10: before and I've seen how we can get out the 547 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 10: other side. 548 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 2: I'm very confident we're gonna get that done. There go well, 549 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 2: I mean again, he's got a little bit of a 550 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 2: heat under his seat, but he also has two years 551 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 2: left on his contract, and we know Mike Brown does 552 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 2: not like to pay players or coaches to sit. So 553 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 2: Zach Taylor. You know, despite what a lot of people 554 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 2: in this town may think, despite what you might see 555 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 2: on billboards, I don't think he's going anywhere. This is 556 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,719 Speaker 2: where it's at for the players. All Right, they're getting paid, 557 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 2: but it's they're getting paid. Let's just put it that way. 558 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 2: They're professionals. This is what they're supposed to do, even 559 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 2: when there's nothing left to play for. Dalton Riisner one 560 00:30:58,680 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 2: of their top offensive line. 561 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 11: I mean, we all know that we're both out of a 562 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 11: playoff contention, but there's a lot to play for. 563 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I said this last week. 564 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 4: I don't speak for the team. 565 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 11: But I know this is the mindset of the team 566 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 11: is we get to be Cincinnati Bengals. We get to 567 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 11: wear the stripes, we get to go represent ourselves, but 568 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 11: even more importantly, we get to go represent the Cincinnati 569 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 11: Bengals on Sunday. So anytime I'm putting on the stripes, 570 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 11: I don't care if playoffs on the line or not. 571 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 11: I'm going out there. I have so much to play for. 572 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 11: This is this is a blessing. And if you take 573 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 11: it for granted, you ain't. You ain't gonna be in 574 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 11: this league for long. So there's a lot to play for. 575 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 11: On Sunday, I'm excited to go play the Miami Dolphins. 576 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 4: We're gonna be ready to go. 577 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 2: Never met that guy, but I like that guy. That's 578 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 2: the way you should at that. That should be the outlook. 579 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 2: You're getting paid, you play as a pro. And my 580 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 2: guess is he'll be back here again next year too, 581 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 2: And that's good. That's good. Keep hope alive, for gosh sakes, 582 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 2: keep hope alive. All right? Who is John Housted and 583 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 2: why does he want to continue being the senator in Washington, 584 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 2: DC representing the grand of people here in the state 585 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 2: of Ohio. We'll get into that next as we cruise 586 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 2: on till three o'clock on news radio seven hundred w 587 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 2: l W. 588 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: Oh your host Ken Brew on News Radio seven hundred 589 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: wl W. 590 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 2: Thank you, mister announcer with a nice voice. Yes it is. 591 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 2: I have no fear right till three o'clock and then 592 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 2: all hell breaks loose when Sterling comes in. But we 593 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 2: don't have to worry about that for a couple of hours. 594 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 2: It is great to have you with us on this 595 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,959 Speaker 2: Saturday before Christmas, and so much is going on of 596 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 2: course Hanikah, Christmas, then the New Year, and then and 597 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 2: then January comes. I was just talking last night about 598 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 2: this to a friend of mine. January comes and it's like, 599 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 2: what the hell is this? What happened? 600 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 6: Now? 601 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 2: You're in the sun isn't out, you're inside, it's cold 602 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 2: and all that. It just anyway, so enjoyed this month 603 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 2: of December what's left of it, because we all know 604 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 2: what's coming. Speaking of what's coming, we are about to 605 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 2: enter into full bore blast an election season. The midterms 606 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 2: are coming up in November, and there are a lot 607 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 2: of people that are in office right now, both here 608 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 2: in the state and in Washington, DC, that won't be 609 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 2: around after the election next November. One would think that 610 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 2: it will be a big election night for the Democrats 611 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 2: next November. That just is the way it works on 612 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 2: off your elections. Now, Donald Trump is going to hold 613 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 2: a Republican National Convention on this off your election, never 614 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 2: done that before, to try and drum up support. He's 615 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 2: got a lot of Democrats that are just running tail. 616 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,959 Speaker 2: I'm sorry Republicans who are just turning tail and running 617 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 2: from him. They're retiring, they're getting out. They don't want 618 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 2: a part of it. They know that probably they're done 619 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 2: in November. So it's going to be very challenging for 620 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 2: the GOP to keep the majority in the House. What 621 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 2: is the first thing that the Democrats are going to 622 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 2: do if they get the House right, They're going to 623 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 2: impeach Donald Trump. Doesn't matter for what, They'll impeach Donald Trump. 624 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,280 Speaker 2: First thing. They do nothing to help you live healthier, 625 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 2: nothing to help you deal with expenses. They're going to 626 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 2: impeach Donald Trump. We just know that, so just leave 627 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 2: it there. We know it's coming in the Senate where 628 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 2: the impeachment hearings will take place. Aha, that's where it 629 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 2: could get crazy. And in the Senate there are a 630 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 2: number of seats that are up that the Republicans are 631 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 2: interested in, and several seats they're interested in in defending, 632 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 2: one of which is here in Ohio. Here in Ohio, 633 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 2: we have John Houston. If you just said who, that's 634 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,839 Speaker 2: fine because in a recent poll it was taken by 635 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 2: Emerson College, thirty eight percent of Ohio and said they 636 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 2: never heard of John Houston. Even though this dude has 637 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 2: been in Ohio politics for his entire life. Nobody knew 638 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 2: who he was. Now here in Cincinnati, having worked in 639 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 2: local television for over forty five years, I can tell 640 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 2: to you that the interest in covering what goes on 641 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 2: in Columbus and inside the State House in the State Senate, 642 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 2: the interest among Cincinnati television stations is somewhere south of 643 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 2: zero percent. Don't cover it. Even the paper gives cursory 644 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 2: coverage to the Ohio State House and the Senate. So 645 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 2: a lot of these dudes that are up there, like 646 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,399 Speaker 2: John Houstad, until he was appointed to fill out JD. 647 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 2: Vance's seat, fill out the term that JD. Evans had, 648 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 2: nobody knew who he was. He was a name that 649 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 2: appeared on a ballot like once every seven or it 650 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 2: was every four years. So he's got a problem, or 651 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,760 Speaker 2: maybe not. Maybe it's a good thing that forty percent 652 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 2: don't know who he is and he can paint over 653 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,879 Speaker 2: that blank canvas standing by it give her thoughts on 654 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 2: all of this. Is one of the finest political writers 655 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,280 Speaker 2: in this country, and she happens to reside here in Ohio, 656 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 2: and she happens to write for the Daily Signal. We've 657 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,800 Speaker 2: had Rebecca Downs on the show before because we like 658 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 2: her and because she has good stuff to say, and 659 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 2: she's kind of up to call oute some of her 660 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 2: Saturday to spend with us right here on seven hundred 661 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 2: at WYLW. So how much you been a dentity problem? 662 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,760 Speaker 2: Does John Houston have? Sure? 663 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 7: So he do have to pay attention to state politics 664 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 7: a lot, right, since those are the various offices he's helped. 665 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 7: So he was their lieutenant governor. He's also been Secretary 666 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 7: of State, state senator, served in the Ohio House, which 667 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 7: included the Speaker. 668 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:35,760 Speaker 4: Of the House. 669 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 7: So at the end of the day, it matters if 670 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 7: people know about him enough or like him enough to 671 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 7: vote for him. But yes, it is very curious to 672 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 7: me that he is our sitting senator currently because he 673 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 7: was appointed to fill JD now Vice President J. D. 674 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,280 Speaker 7: Dance's seat, and so he's running for his special elections 675 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 7: next year. 676 00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 4: So it is very curious. 677 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 7: Okay, a lot of people don't a plurality in the 678 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 7: Emerson Poles don't know a lot about him. They asked voters, 679 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,839 Speaker 7: and these are active voters in Ohio, right, They asked, 680 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 7: do you have a favorable opinion about this person? Unfavorable, 681 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 7: unsure don't know enough about them, and thirty eight percent 682 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 7: said that I'm sure don't know enough about which is 683 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 7: actually a plurality of responses for what people think. 684 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 4: About He said. 685 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 5: Now I talked to him about this. 686 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 4: I asked him about this, about. 687 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 7: That poll during a press conference he had last Friday 688 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 7: after he filed, and another reporter asked him, you know, 689 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 7: are you worried about those numbers? He seecred as an opportunity, right. 690 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:48,240 Speaker 7: He pointed out that if I got to introduce myself 691 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 7: to voters, he seems happy to do that. He seems 692 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,439 Speaker 7: to see it as an opportunity. He also pointed out, 693 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 7: from my understanding, what he was saying is, you know, 694 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 7: imagine politicians known for how things are not great in 695 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,800 Speaker 7: Washington type of thing, and there might be a negative 696 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 7: connotation with that he's running against. In all likelihood, I 697 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 7: don't think anybody's challenging side. Former Senator Shared Brown. So 698 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 7: shared Brown has been in politics for a while and 699 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 7: he just lost last year to now Republican Senator Bernie Marina. 700 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 2: So yes, go ahead, No, it's going to say you're right, 701 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 2: I mean it's happened. He lost by Yes, I take 702 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:32,919 Speaker 2: a point by about two hundred thousand yea three point 703 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 2: six okay, two hundred thousand votes. They ran him out. 704 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 2: They ran Shared Brown out in the state. Why would 705 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 2: anybody think, let alone Shared Brown, that they want him back. 706 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 7: You know, it could be it's a midterm year. How 707 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 7: are people feeling, including especially in Ohio, feeling about about Trump? 708 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 7: Although you know, is Shared Brown getting donations, support and 709 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 7: fundraising emptines for people outside of Ohio, which always is 710 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,879 Speaker 7: so curious to me because it's only Ohio. Voters are 711 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 7: gonna have a say or should have a say, and 712 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 7: whether Shared Brown goes back to the Senate or if 713 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,359 Speaker 7: John Houston gets a full term. 714 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I guess the outside money maybe 715 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,799 Speaker 2: buys you TV timing, it's a whole thing. Yeah, you know, 716 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 2: you're building your coffers up. But I mean it seemed like, yeah, 717 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 2: they seems like the state kind of like was over 718 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 2: Shared Brown. 719 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 12: I mean he was I get that sense increasingly read Yeah, thirty. 720 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 2: Two years in Washington, d C. I mean, you pretty 721 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 2: much know what you have there. It's not you can't 722 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 2: put a fresh coat of paint on Shared Brown and 723 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,359 Speaker 2: say here it is you and improved. But you raise 724 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 2: an interesting point. This is a midterm election. Trump is 725 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 2: not on the ballot. The Trump voters aren't going to 726 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 2: come out the way they come out when Trump is 727 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 2: on the ballot. And so that's where I think Houston 728 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 2: has his work cut out for him, because upsets like 729 00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,720 Speaker 2: this occur in. 730 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 7: Mid And I yeah, and I did talk. I asked 731 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:05,839 Speaker 7: he said, I said, are you worried about the poll? 732 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 7: And he kind of looks a lighthearted tone candidly said, oh, 733 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 7: you mean the poll where I'm up? So he is 734 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 7: up against Shared Brod. I believe it's about uh three 735 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 7: or four points. 736 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 4: He was up more. 737 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 7: So in August. He does not seem to be worried 738 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 7: about the polls. He said, you know, poll numbers say 739 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 7: come and go. He also has a little less than 740 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 7: a year now at this point. Let's voters, this is 741 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 7: just means to hear voters. Voters do seem to have 742 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 7: a short memory. Will see how short it is and 743 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 7: what else is going in the world come next November. 744 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 7: And he did tell me on the thirty two years 745 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 7: time period. The narratives really seems to be from him, 746 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,839 Speaker 7: because I talked to him about this in September said, 747 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 7: you know, it's the DC guy versus Ohio guy. He 748 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 7: sees Shared Brown as working in seteral politics and that 749 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 7: you know, that dysfunctional system whereas he has he would 750 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 7: tell you he's you know, really far for the people 751 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 7: of Ohio, including in those various Ohio state role positions. 752 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 7: And I think people don't put better or worse, don't 753 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 7: really pay attention to their state politics. 754 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 4: No, no whole numbers. 755 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 7: Like you said, you know, all of you asked, you've 756 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 7: got lost in the phone book, or you ask ten 757 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 7: people on the street. 758 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:17,839 Speaker 4: Who is this guy? 759 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,359 Speaker 7: You know? But as he pointed out, he just needs 760 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,959 Speaker 7: to win by one vote, He needs enough people to vote. 761 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's a that's a very you know, cute 762 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 2: and cottage way to look at it. 763 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,840 Speaker 4: I I do think very true. 764 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:34,799 Speaker 2: I do in Cincinnati. This is historically in Cincinnati. We 765 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 2: don't pay a whole lot of attention what goes on 766 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 2: in Columbus unless it adversely affects our lives. We are 767 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 2: the state of Cincinnati, and so the TV stations don't 768 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,720 Speaker 2: cover it the way they should. The local newspaper relies 769 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 2: on the Columbus newspaper to cover state politics. 770 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 4: It's just some issues. 771 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not. It's it's it's we're an anomaly in 772 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,880 Speaker 2: and of ourselves. But I have to be honest with you. 773 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 2: I've seen John I've heard him talk. He's not the 774 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 2: most stillating guy in the world. And if forty percent 775 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 2: of the people don't know who the hell this guy is, 776 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 2: it would seem to me that somebody in the hierarchy 777 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 2: of the Republican Party would say to somebody in the Senate, look, 778 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 2: get this guy in front of the camera and get 779 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,399 Speaker 2: him involved in some of the big legislation coming up, 780 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,759 Speaker 2: so that forty percent of the folks you don't know 781 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 2: who he is, can at least put a face with 782 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:26,239 Speaker 2: a voice, right. 783 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, And the NRSC is taking this race very seriously. 784 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 7: I think it is the race to watch. 785 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 4: The fact that shared brown Democrats like him, you know. 786 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 6: Got. 787 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,720 Speaker 7: Back in the race. They actually did regard the race 788 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:46,439 Speaker 7: from likely Republican when he's did opponent wasn't announced yet 789 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 7: to lean Republican, so he still has an edge. 790 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 5: It will be very interesting to watch. 791 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,799 Speaker 7: So in addition to the NRSC taking it seriously, he's 792 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 7: also had Trump's endorsement, the Vice president's endorsement. You know 793 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:04,879 Speaker 7: that Ohio nection that he is trying to get out 794 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 7: there on healthcare with God bless and that's kind of 795 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 7: like a bangless issue right now with all that's going 796 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 7: on there. 797 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, So this polling, Rebecca, I don't know how you 798 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 2: feel about polling. I think polling is is just I 799 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:18,720 Speaker 2: love pulling. 800 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:19,719 Speaker 4: I'm not like obsessed. 801 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but I think it's I think it's 802 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,399 Speaker 2: a corrupt business because you never really know what you're 803 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 2: going to get, and then you have people like Emerson 804 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 2: and NPR and for that matter, matter for Falgar. I 805 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,919 Speaker 2: mean they all seem to have an agency bias. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 806 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 2: there is, and I think that exists in virtually every 807 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 2: polling that's out there. You're never going to get a 808 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 2: good result if you're a Republican from an NPR poll. 809 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 2: It just doesn't. It just doesn't happen because of their bias. 810 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 2: So I don't pay a lot of attention to polling. 811 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 2: I don't think any of this really kicks into high 812 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 2: gear and polling matters until about Labor Day next year. 813 00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 2: Would you agree with that? 814 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 7: Yes, Yeah, then it's really going to heat up. That's 815 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 7: when you're like in the grind. That's that's when you 816 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,240 Speaker 7: really do need to be paying attentions to the polls 817 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 7: and how much the candidate is out there. And but 818 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 7: I'm like a data walk when it comes to looking 819 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:13,840 Speaker 7: at the world. 820 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 5: Now. 821 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,359 Speaker 7: I mean, you always want to be ahead, you never 822 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 7: want sure, you're always going to sell burbing ahead, and 823 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,120 Speaker 7: you never want to be behind. But I can see 824 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,359 Speaker 7: why it wouldn't be necessary to wear that at this 825 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 7: point in time. 826 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And you know the other thing we pointed out, 827 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 2: nobody knowing Houstad and what he is and who he is. 828 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 2: It could be it's a blank can true. There's a 829 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,480 Speaker 2: yeah beauty in that if you are. We're chatting with 830 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 2: Rebecca Downs. Yeah, she is a terrific writer and understands 831 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 2: politics in our state top to bottom and she is 832 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 2: with the Daily Signal. All right, let's get into this 833 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:51,400 Speaker 2: gooblatorial race. Oh yes, the vag Ramaswami on the Republican side. 834 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:55,440 Speaker 2: And it looks like doctor Amy Acton, she of COVID fame, 835 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 2: is on the Democrat side. 836 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, because Tim Ryan's not running. 837 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 2: Great and I look at Amy Acton and I think 838 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 2: the governor of Ohio, current Governor Mike DeWine unwittingly built 839 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,720 Speaker 2: this woman up into be some sort of godlike figure, 840 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,280 Speaker 2: and now all of a sudden she's coming back, roaring 841 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:18,279 Speaker 2: at the Republicans and trying to be the governor of 842 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:22,879 Speaker 2: this state. I don't know what her favorability rating is statewide. 843 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,279 Speaker 2: I can't believe it would be great, just because she 844 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 2: is the COVID queen in Ohio and we all know 845 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 2: how that went five years ago. Yeah, why is she 846 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,720 Speaker 2: running and does she have, in your opinion, enough grassroots 847 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,320 Speaker 2: support to pull this thing off. 848 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 7: Her fund raising numbers have been impressive for a Democrat. 849 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:48,400 Speaker 7: Let's emphasize that it's for a Democrat, but also the 850 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,799 Speaker 7: day Grammar Swammy has raised a ton of money too. 851 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 7: Her favorable rating, she is looking at a thirty five 852 00:45:55,760 --> 00:46:01,320 Speaker 7: percent favorable rating, rights towards the bottom. It's a little 853 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,440 Speaker 7: bit better than her unfavorable rating, which is thirty three 854 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 7: percent and then thirty two percent. 855 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:07,240 Speaker 4: Say, you know, I'm. 856 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 3: Sure I've never heard of her. 857 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,520 Speaker 7: It's only a little bit better than John he said 858 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 7: in that regard. 859 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, they should run as a team. 860 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 7: Yeah right, so true. So you know, the Ohio gop 861 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 7: here they are really hammering the narrative, Oh, the COVID 862 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 7: queen and COVID closures. And I think that does matter 863 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:33,319 Speaker 7: in a red state. I really do, especially when when 864 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 7: parents think about how their kids were affected in school closures, 865 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 7: and that's certainly a narrative. I said, the Ihio GOP 866 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,040 Speaker 7: is really hammering. That's what I've seen from them. The 867 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,400 Speaker 7: Wine is a very interesting calculation in this mixt and 868 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 7: he is the current governor, and he was the governor 869 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,000 Speaker 7: when all this was going on, So I think it 870 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 7: puts him in an awkward spot. I will say, to 871 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 7: put it politely, that not everybody in Ohio, from the 872 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 7: repubt book inside, is a fan of Mike de Wine. 873 00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 7: I think they see him as an establishment or what 874 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 7: some people call rhinos Republican a name only I do 875 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 7: see their argument, you know. I think I think you 876 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 7: could also say Republicans would say he was better than 877 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,840 Speaker 7: what the Democrat Nan Leally, who lost him by like 878 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,759 Speaker 7: twenty five points in twenty twenty two, would be. So 879 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 7: I think I don't I have to wonder how much 880 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 7: I'm getting involved in the race would would help because 881 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,440 Speaker 7: of both you know, how. 882 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:38,480 Speaker 2: The Wine hasn't endorsed Ramaswami, and I don't know that's 883 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 2: not and I don't you know, I don't know how 884 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,919 Speaker 2: he views acting. I would view her if I were him, 885 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,759 Speaker 2: as a political liability. But I do find it that 886 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:52,160 Speaker 2: the Wine either thinks his anointment of some sort of 887 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 2: candidate like ramas Swami would carry any kind of weight. 888 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,759 Speaker 2: He's a lame duck governor and he is he is 889 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 2: not what anyone would discribe as an ultra conservative and 890 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,319 Speaker 2: certainly not part of the Maga movement. So I maybe 891 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 2: it's a pleasing that Ramaswami doesn't have his endorsement yet. 892 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,719 Speaker 7: True, I do believe it's going to come, because he 893 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,239 Speaker 7: said he would endorse, and my sense was he would 894 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,520 Speaker 7: endorse the Republican candidate, not that Ramaswami and he were 895 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:25,000 Speaker 7: best friends, but you know, Ramaswami is the Republican Canada. 896 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 7: I do wonder if Dave yoc Attorney General, had he 897 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,200 Speaker 7: stuck in the race. I don't think he would have 898 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,240 Speaker 7: gotten the nomination, to be frank, given that the Ohio 899 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:39,800 Speaker 7: GOP endorse Ramaswami, I do wonder if the Wine would 900 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:44,160 Speaker 7: have thrown his support behind him much more quickly. But 901 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,719 Speaker 7: you know, that's that's where we're at, he said. He 902 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:52,640 Speaker 7: this is the wine said, he's had conversations with Ramaswami, 903 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:53,920 Speaker 7: is my understanding. 904 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 4: So it's probably coming. 905 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 7: They're probably gonna, you know, maybe it would be a 906 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,080 Speaker 7: photo up or or you know, just tell each other 907 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,080 Speaker 7: what they want to hear. I do wonder if who 908 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,760 Speaker 7: promise Bammy Picks as his lieutenant governor will have any play, 909 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:10,160 Speaker 7: especially because it's someone currently in state politics. The names 910 00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,520 Speaker 7: I'm hearing and I'm sure everybody else are hearing, or 911 00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,920 Speaker 7: you know, frank Le Rose. Also, you've got few state senators, 912 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,880 Speaker 7: so I think it's going to be so interesting to 913 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,799 Speaker 7: see if that, if that has no effect as well. 914 00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,560 Speaker 2: And that's why you got to read Rebecca downs on 915 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,239 Speaker 2: the Daily Siguation. He is on top of it all. 916 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,799 Speaker 2: And Rebecca, we appreciate your time here today and you 917 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,640 Speaker 2: know we will be calling, but if not before Christmas. 918 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:36,560 Speaker 2: Every Christmas to. 919 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,759 Speaker 4: You and Christmas to you too. 920 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,440 Speaker 7: God bless, happy New Year and happy han It as well. 921 00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:42,520 Speaker 4: That's going on right now. 922 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:46,600 Speaker 2: That's wonderful. Thank you. 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Blown up drug boats, 963 00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 2: alleged drug boats and trying to get Maduro the hell 964 00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,120 Speaker 2: out of that country. Now there's a line of thinking 965 00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,680 Speaker 2: that Maduro and the person that had the power before him, 966 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:12,640 Speaker 2: Hugo Chavez that they simply just stole all the equipment 967 00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,200 Speaker 2: and all of the rigging and all of the everything 968 00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:20,040 Speaker 2: that oil companies invested in years ago, and some oil 969 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,480 Speaker 2: companies gave it up willingly just to get out of 970 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:26,680 Speaker 2: the country, and others basically, we're just run out of 971 00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:30,280 Speaker 2: the country. And Trump wants his oil back, he wants 972 00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,800 Speaker 2: the rigging back, and he wants Maduro out. So exactly 973 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,239 Speaker 2: where are we going here and how does he plan 974 00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,400 Speaker 2: on doing that? We'll get into that in just a 975 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,680 Speaker 2: little bit. You're you're invariably, if you're going out of 976 00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:46,480 Speaker 2: town for the holidays, you're going to encounter some problems, 977 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,799 Speaker 2: either traffic on the roadway or if you're going to 978 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:53,279 Speaker 2: the airport, delays and cancelations and lost bags, and so 979 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:59,120 Speaker 2: the question becomes what airline is the most dependable if 980 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,000 Speaker 2: you are flying out of town over the holidays, whether 981 00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:05,879 Speaker 2: it be for Christmas or Honikah or for the New Year? Well, 982 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:12,520 Speaker 2: how about this? Finance Buzz is a website and it 983 00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,560 Speaker 2: examined data for the months of November and December from 984 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,399 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one to twenty twenty four to find which 985 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:22,840 Speaker 2: airline are the best for holiday travel and that's based 986 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:26,960 Speaker 2: on what I just mentioned, delays and cancelations, mishandled luggage 987 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:34,520 Speaker 2: the best the top of the heap Delta Delta Delta 988 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,400 Speaker 2: through that time period when this survey was done, only 989 00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:41,279 Speaker 2: had thirteen point seven percent of their flights delayed and 990 00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:45,560 Speaker 2: less than one percent of their flights canceled. Now, there 991 00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:50,040 Speaker 2: were delays, some is long or averaging out to an hour, 992 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:54,919 Speaker 2: but some are just not good. Jet Blue Alaska, even 993 00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:59,439 Speaker 2: the low cost carriers Allegian in Frontier not very good. 994 00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,640 Speaker 2: So I wanted to get an aviation expert on today. 995 00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:06,839 Speaker 2: There are a lot of them out there. We have 996 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,920 Speaker 2: our own Jay Ratliffe here on seven hundred WLW. But 997 00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,040 Speaker 2: Brandon Blewett wrote a book a few years ago that 998 00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,440 Speaker 2: I bought and I liked, and I thought it was 999 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:19,480 Speaker 2: kind of cool. It's called how to Avoid Strangers on Airplanes, 1000 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:24,920 Speaker 2: Survival Guide for the Frequent Business Traveler. And I wanted 1001 00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,839 Speaker 2: to get his thoughts on what Finance Buzz did here 1002 00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:31,040 Speaker 2: and whether or not there's any truth to what we're 1003 00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:34,359 Speaker 2: seeing in here. The survey is interesting. I don't think 1004 00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,640 Speaker 2: it is, Brandon. I don't think it's particularly great for 1005 00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,880 Speaker 2: any of these airlines It's. 1006 00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,760 Speaker 12: Really interesting the list of finance Buzz put out right 1007 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:47,960 Speaker 12: because how they factored it is in what's the most 1008 00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,360 Speaker 12: disruptive and what is the least dependable probably depends on 1009 00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,880 Speaker 12: you know, how often you travel and you know what 1010 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,600 Speaker 12: your travel plans are, because for me, I travel every week. 1011 00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,799 Speaker 12: So if applies the aid, yes that's annoying, but it's 1012 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,919 Speaker 12: not going to be devastating. So a flight cancelation would 1013 00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:09,399 Speaker 12: be the bigger drawback for me. You know, I'm looking 1014 00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,080 Speaker 12: through the you know, the stats, and it looked like, 1015 00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,799 Speaker 12: you know, Delta, you know, score the best and in 1016 00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:18,040 Speaker 12: almost you know, every category. So look, they have, they 1017 00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,680 Speaker 12: have a stellar reputation. I lived in Atlanta four eleven years, 1018 00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,719 Speaker 12: flew them every week and generally had a very very 1019 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,120 Speaker 12: positive experience with them. So I do think that they 1020 00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:28,919 Speaker 12: are you know, king of the hill, so to speak, 1021 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 12: based on the latest ratings. I also think with airlines 1022 00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,799 Speaker 12: that you mentioned that the ratings aren't that good for 1023 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:35,399 Speaker 12: all of them. 1024 00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:36,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fair. 1025 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:40,480 Speaker 12: I do think that the airline industry in general has 1026 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,480 Speaker 12: to deal with so many external factors that a lot 1027 00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,480 Speaker 12: of other businesses don't have to deal with, you know, 1028 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:49,080 Speaker 12: namely weather, if you have a hub and spoke model 1029 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,400 Speaker 12: and a storm roll through your hub, that's just going 1030 00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:53,719 Speaker 12: to cause a chain reaction of bad events that happen, 1031 00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:55,360 Speaker 12: you know, across your entire network. 1032 00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, that's true. There's a lot of things 1033 00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,759 Speaker 2: that are outside the airlines controlled. There's no quoest that, 1034 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:04,640 Speaker 2: and just the skies are jammed, let's face it. I mean, 1035 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,640 Speaker 2: these air traffic controllers are They're wizards and make holding 1036 00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,880 Speaker 2: this work. But I'd be interested to drill down and 1037 00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:16,239 Speaker 2: see what they mean by number of flights delayed. If 1038 00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,440 Speaker 2: you leave the gate, if that plane pushes back and 1039 00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,959 Speaker 2: sits on the tarmac, is it delayed because it left 1040 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:27,280 Speaker 2: the gate on time? And the percentage of flights canceled? 1041 00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,279 Speaker 2: I think you really can't get around that one all 1042 00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,959 Speaker 2: that much. You know, there's some lines that say, hey, 1043 00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,480 Speaker 2: it's another un time departure, and then you sit on 1044 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:39,320 Speaker 2: the tarmac for two So flights delay is a really 1045 00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:40,920 Speaker 2: kind of nebulous thing, is it not? 1046 00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,080 Speaker 12: It is, And it's even more complicated by the fact that, 1047 00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:49,120 Speaker 12: as I understand, the FAA used to measure it based 1048 00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,640 Speaker 12: on arrival time, so long as you were within thirty 1049 00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,799 Speaker 12: minutes of your scheduled arrival. So there's even a little 1050 00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,480 Speaker 12: bit of wiggle room for the airline there. And I 1051 00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,800 Speaker 12: think we shall also see with many of the airlines 1052 00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:03,239 Speaker 12: now is we'll pad the flight time. Right, So even 1053 00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,480 Speaker 12: if you sit on the tarmac for an extra twenty 1054 00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,400 Speaker 12: minutes because they have booked, say three hours before a 1055 00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,920 Speaker 12: flight that's likely only two hours and twenty minutes in airtime, 1056 00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:16,360 Speaker 12: you'll still wind up that your destination on time, so 1057 00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:19,120 Speaker 12: as I understand, and what they use here to calculate 1058 00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,520 Speaker 12: was not based on when you leave the gate. It's 1059 00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,600 Speaker 12: based on when the plane arrives at the gate of 1060 00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:25,360 Speaker 12: your destination. 1061 00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,400 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, okay, So out of a score of fifty, 1062 00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:33,240 Speaker 2: Delta was overall thirty five point nine, and the rest 1063 00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,120 Speaker 2: of the airlines that we would fly here in this 1064 00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:38,200 Speaker 2: area of the country would not stack up all that well. 1065 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,600 Speaker 2: I guess. The next ranked one was Hawaiian Air But 1066 00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,880 Speaker 2: obviously Cincinnati's about and far away from Hawaii as you 1067 00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:44,240 Speaker 2: can get. 1068 00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,200 Speaker 12: When you're only flying between the California and Hawaii, the 1069 00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,040 Speaker 12: weather's always perfect, You're probably not going to be a 1070 00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:51,880 Speaker 12: subject to most of the elements of the rest of 1071 00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:52,880 Speaker 12: the country as well. 1072 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,640 Speaker 2: Right, but you get when you get to airlines like 1073 00:57:55,800 --> 00:58:00,240 Speaker 2: United and Spirit and American, in Frontier and Allegian and 1074 00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:07,040 Speaker 2: Jet Blueth and Southwest, you're talking basically fifty percent. If 1075 00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:10,720 Speaker 2: the score is fifty these airlines are all scoring below 1076 00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,920 Speaker 2: twenty five percent. So that's not good, is it? 1077 00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:15,560 Speaker 4: No, it's not. 1078 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,680 Speaker 12: And if you look at Southwest in particular, so for 1079 00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:22,479 Speaker 12: Southwest and percent of percent of flights canceled, you'll notice 1080 00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,520 Speaker 12: THEIRS is two point four percent, which is higher than 1081 00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,880 Speaker 12: I think almost every other airlines stay of Alaska. If 1082 00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,680 Speaker 12: you look at Delta, United an American, you'll see they're 1083 00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,600 Speaker 12: all below one percent. And the reason for that is 1084 00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:39,280 Speaker 12: that Delta, American and United have a hub and spoke model, 1085 00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,080 Speaker 12: so they within their network, they have call it eight 1086 00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:45,160 Speaker 12: to ten airports where all their show and they all 1087 00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,440 Speaker 12: leave there. So if you're able to fly people to 1088 00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,920 Speaker 12: that hub, the likelihood that they can get a new plane, 1089 00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:53,800 Speaker 12: get a new crew. If something you know where to 1090 00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:55,919 Speaker 12: go wrong, you know your inbound crew, your inound plane 1091 00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:59,680 Speaker 12: are delayed, they can mobilize. They have mechanical operations at 1092 00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:03,240 Speaker 12: those those at those airports, and so they're able to 1093 00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:07,360 Speaker 12: get things moving. When you see airlines like Southwest, they're 1094 00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,880 Speaker 12: more of a point to point airline, so they don't 1095 00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:13,200 Speaker 12: fly everything into one, you know, into eight to ten 1096 00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:16,000 Speaker 12: airports and everything goes from there. So if a flight 1097 00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:19,680 Speaker 12: gets delayed or canceled, it causes a serious chain of 1098 00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,880 Speaker 12: the events where all these subsequent flights that were depending 1099 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:26,320 Speaker 12: on that aircraft could get canceled. And then airlines like 1100 00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:30,480 Speaker 12: you know, Spirit, Frontier, Allegiant, you know Jet Blue, to 1101 00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,400 Speaker 12: some extent, they just have a very limited network and 1102 00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,320 Speaker 12: so if a flight gets canceled or a flight gets 1103 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,800 Speaker 12: severely delayed, it just creates, you know, math, chaos within 1104 00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:41,760 Speaker 12: within the system for the rest of the day. 1105 00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:45,360 Speaker 2: Brandon Blew, it's an expert on airline passenger experience, sees 1106 00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,400 Speaker 2: the author of How to Avoid Strangers on Airplane Survival 1107 00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:52,320 Speaker 2: Guide for the frequent business traveler. How do you avoid 1108 00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,480 Speaker 2: strangers on airplanes? They're all strangers. You just want the 1109 00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:56,920 Speaker 2: stranger that doesn't talk to you. 1110 00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,880 Speaker 4: Right, you buy my book and you hold up the cover. 1111 01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:00,880 Speaker 4: People get the points. 1112 01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:07,480 Speaker 2: It's all in. It's all in the jacket. It's all 1113 01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,960 Speaker 2: in the jacket. The other thing I got you here, 1114 01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,280 Speaker 2: here's another pet peeve with my Brandon's sorry, I'm just 1115 01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:18,680 Speaker 2: gonna stud I think they should ban outside food on 1116 01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:22,800 Speaker 2: a plane, because invariably somebody is going to come strutting 1117 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:26,240 Speaker 2: down that aisle as loaded with onions and garlic or 1118 01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,280 Speaker 2: some other curry or something is just going to stink 1119 01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:33,520 Speaker 2: to high heaven. These airlines should say no outside food 1120 01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:37,360 Speaker 2: on this plane. It just drives me crazy. Well anyway, Uh, 1121 01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:40,840 Speaker 2: this is interesting stuff, and you're an interesting guy. And again, 1122 01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:44,560 Speaker 2: Brandon's book has how to Avoid Strangers on Airplane Survival 1123 01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,640 Speaker 2: Guide for the frequent business traveler. Sounds like a good 1124 01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:52,080 Speaker 2: read for anyone that's boarding a plane this holiday season. Uh, Brandon, 1125 01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,280 Speaker 2: you stay well and hopefully we can visit again down 1126 01:00:55,320 --> 01:01:02,120 Speaker 2: the road. Thanks absolutely, enjoy I will whatever tours. Delta 1127 01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:07,320 Speaker 2: number one, Hawaiian Airlines two Southwest three in terms of 1128 01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:12,280 Speaker 2: best airlines for a holiday travel, United is a distant fourth, 1129 01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,360 Speaker 2: and then if you want a fistfight, you could always 1130 01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:18,560 Speaker 2: fly Spirit. They're coming in at number five in this 1131 01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:23,320 Speaker 2: survey done by finance Buzz. If you're flying, I hope 1132 01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:26,000 Speaker 2: the skies are friendly to you. Coming up on one 1133 01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:30,160 Speaker 2: fifty three News Radio seven hundred wl w W two 1134 01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:33,760 Speaker 2: ten on this Saturday afternoon, and welcome back. Great to 1135 01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:37,040 Speaker 2: have you with us. Well, without you, I would simply 1136 01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:39,800 Speaker 2: be one man sitting in a room babbling to himself. 1137 01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:42,520 Speaker 2: Why would I have to leave home to do that? 1138 01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:47,000 Speaker 2: What's going on in Venezuela, well a lot. It seems like, 1139 01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:51,520 Speaker 2: first of all, you have these drug boats, these cigar boats, 1140 01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:55,640 Speaker 2: if you will, that have been leaving Venezuela and heading 1141 01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:59,120 Speaker 2: north through the Atlantic or the Caribbean, or god knows where. 1142 01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:02,160 Speaker 2: And so the United States and the Department of Defense, 1143 01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:05,720 Speaker 2: Department of Warbs, i should say, have been blowing things, 1144 01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:09,960 Speaker 2: these things up. And now we heard just the beginning 1145 01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,200 Speaker 2: of this past week that the United States has a 1146 01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:16,240 Speaker 2: blockade around Venezuela. So it would seem to me that 1147 01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:21,040 Speaker 2: there is a decided effort right now by the Trump 1148 01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:25,400 Speaker 2: administration to do something in Venezuela. And although Trump says 1149 01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,720 Speaker 2: it would not involve boots on the ground, it's hard 1150 01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:32,400 Speaker 2: to imagine that the strong man in charge of that 1151 01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:36,640 Speaker 2: particular country, Nicholas Maduro, would leave under any circumstances other 1152 01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:41,120 Speaker 2: than through an invasion or through just basically getting taken out, 1153 01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:45,360 Speaker 2: if you will, by an organization like the CIA. But 1154 01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,840 Speaker 2: what's really going on besides drugs? Why are we so 1155 01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:54,960 Speaker 2: interested in drugs and are they only Maybe the overarching 1156 01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,320 Speaker 2: theme to all that and that the real issue with 1157 01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:04,920 Speaker 2: Venezuela is oil. Upon a time, major oil companies like Exon, Mobil, Conicco, Shell, 1158 01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:09,760 Speaker 2: they were all in Venezuela and actively pumping oil out 1159 01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:13,600 Speaker 2: of the ground, building the infrastructure needed and staffing with 1160 01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:16,440 Speaker 2: the people needed to get oil out of the ground. 1161 01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:20,360 Speaker 2: And it was under Hugo Chavez that they were run out. 1162 01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,040 Speaker 2: They are either left on their own or were forced out. 1163 01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:26,680 Speaker 2: But guess what all of that infrastructure remained. And so 1164 01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:29,640 Speaker 2: when you hear Donald Trump say we want to get 1165 01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:33,640 Speaker 2: our oil back, that's what he's speaking of oil. It 1166 01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,640 Speaker 2: seems like maybe the number one reason why we are 1167 01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:39,840 Speaker 2: so interested in Venezuela and the oil that it takes 1168 01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,840 Speaker 2: out of the ground and ships to other countries like 1169 01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:46,280 Speaker 2: China may be something that is also a part of 1170 01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:49,520 Speaker 2: this as well. Let's get the expert opinion on all 1171 01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:52,520 Speaker 2: of that, and that would be coming up from someone 1172 01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:55,360 Speaker 2: who has studied this on a very large basis. Bill 1173 01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:59,200 Speaker 2: Conroy is a veteran journalist forty years of experience in 1174 01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:03,560 Speaker 2: print and online reporting and editing. And Bill Conroy is 1175 01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:07,439 Speaker 2: someone who is now working and working diligently to find 1176 01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:09,880 Speaker 2: out what's going on in Venezuela. And he's kind of 1177 01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:11,720 Speaker 2: enough to carve out some of his time here on 1178 01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:15,200 Speaker 2: seven hundred WLW. And Bill Conroy, how are you on 1179 01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:16,440 Speaker 2: this glorious Saturday. 1180 01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:19,960 Speaker 6: I am doing well, doing well. 1181 01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:24,760 Speaker 2: You've had your eye on Venezuela for a very long time. 1182 01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:26,880 Speaker 2: You had a book that came out a few years back, 1183 01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:30,680 Speaker 2: The Great Pretense, a tour through the Boneyard of the 1184 01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:34,320 Speaker 2: CIA's War for Drugs. But this seems a little bit 1185 01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:36,520 Speaker 2: more in depth, and it seems like a minute, a 1186 01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:39,400 Speaker 2: little bit more broader of an attack on Venezuela than 1187 01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:41,880 Speaker 2: just drugs. You seem to think it has to do 1188 01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:43,480 Speaker 2: with oil. Can you explain that? 1189 01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,800 Speaker 6: Yeah? I can't. By the way, that book is coming 1190 01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:49,360 Speaker 6: out in February. It hasn't come out. 1191 01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:51,280 Speaker 2: Oh I thought it was already out. Oh it's not 1192 01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:52,760 Speaker 2: out yet. Okay, I'm sorry. Yeah. 1193 01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:59,840 Speaker 6: The prior book was about the Warris Cartel in Ice 1194 01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,840 Speaker 6: and it's called Dispatches from House of Death. But we 1195 01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:07,880 Speaker 6: want to talk about Venezuela. Yeah, I have been following 1196 01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:10,760 Speaker 6: it because part of you know, kind of the last 1197 01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:14,240 Speaker 6: part of the great pretense, you know, I kind of 1198 01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:17,040 Speaker 6: had to explore that because it's you know, it sits 1199 01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:21,760 Speaker 6: in and you're right, the summary is pretty much on 1200 01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:25,840 Speaker 6: the button. I would say, what we're really seeing, Yeah, 1201 01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:28,760 Speaker 6: the drug boats, just to tell you it's not you, 1202 01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:33,160 Speaker 6: it's there. They're carrying cocaine, right, and that's what comes 1203 01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:35,240 Speaker 6: out of the out of Colombia, for the most part, 1204 01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,920 Speaker 6: in the Andes, the only place you can grow coca plants. 1205 01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:42,040 Speaker 6: So you know, Venezuela is not a producer, but it 1206 01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:45,280 Speaker 6: is a transit nation and it probably plays a bigger 1207 01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:47,360 Speaker 6: role in the money side because you know, they have 1208 01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:50,800 Speaker 6: a financial system that can help the launder money. Right, 1209 01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:54,880 Speaker 6: So you know that what's coming out of Venezuela in 1210 01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:59,040 Speaker 6: terms of drug boats, it is probably actually Colombian cocaine 1211 01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:02,680 Speaker 6: or or someone else in that region. Is that there's 1212 01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:06,480 Speaker 6: there's a diversion of cocaine. You know, there's cocaine all 1213 01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,280 Speaker 6: over the place, you know, But let me give you 1214 01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,560 Speaker 6: the real factor. So those drug boats are the cigar 1215 01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:13,520 Speaker 6: boats as you want to call them. At most, you know, 1216 01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:16,600 Speaker 6: and this is generous, might carry four tons right, But 1217 01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:18,560 Speaker 6: those little ones are probably carrying like a ton of 1218 01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:23,640 Speaker 6: cocaine and they've done like twenty eight strikes so far 1219 01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:28,880 Speaker 6: right as of this moment, and that adds up at 1220 01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:31,640 Speaker 6: most about one hundred tons of cocaine. That's a lot 1221 01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:36,880 Speaker 6: of cocaine. But the production annually, and it's been growing 1222 01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:38,840 Speaker 6: every year. And this is you know, from surveys on 1223 01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,600 Speaker 6: the ground that the UN does they have the estimate 1224 01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:44,080 Speaker 6: of three thousand and seven or eight tons of pure 1225 01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:48,360 Speaker 6: cocaine that's that's hitting the market, and that was in 1226 01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:50,919 Speaker 6: two twenty three. It's going to be even higher now. 1227 01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:55,200 Speaker 6: And also while they're blowing up the drug boats, we 1228 01:06:55,280 --> 01:07:01,320 Speaker 6: had you know, a huge growth in seizures at the 1229 01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:05,840 Speaker 6: southern border of cocaine, I mean exploded and seizures are 1230 01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:07,920 Speaker 6: only at indicator how much is coming to because they 1231 01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:11,880 Speaker 6: don't measure what got through it. And yeah, with the 1232 01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:15,520 Speaker 6: cartels where they operate, they'll send like across the bridges 1233 01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:18,800 Speaker 6: where I covered it, they'll send three trucks through roughly 1234 01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,160 Speaker 6: at the same time, figuring maybe one gets caught and 1235 01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:22,080 Speaker 6: the other two get through. 1236 01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:22,480 Speaker 2: Right. 1237 01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:26,120 Speaker 6: So that's and and uh so we're not going to 1238 01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:29,160 Speaker 6: stop the drug war by blown up drug boats. That's 1239 01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:31,240 Speaker 6: more of a shock and awe campaign. I think it 1240 01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:34,680 Speaker 6: was like the first sell bow and they're blown up bullets. 1241 01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:36,680 Speaker 6: They're probably you know, the ones that are in the 1242 01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:40,880 Speaker 6: Eastern Pacific are likely you know, coming out of Columbia, 1243 01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:44,960 Speaker 6: you know, and then the Caribbean that's probably Venezuela, and 1244 01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:48,760 Speaker 6: most of that cocaine headed to the States. It's headed 1245 01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:52,440 Speaker 6: up to out to Europe. That's that's you know, it's 1246 01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,880 Speaker 6: they're they're moving it to push it across across the Atlanta. 1247 01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:57,960 Speaker 6: There's a huge cocaine market in Europe, as. 1248 01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:00,640 Speaker 2: Is in the US with the US. A ton in 1249 01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:03,760 Speaker 2: the US, if my facts are straight, a ton of 1250 01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:07,640 Speaker 2: cocaine is somewhere around thirty thirty five million dollars. 1251 01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:12,280 Speaker 14: So they're not I mean, it's not chin right, but 1252 01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:16,080 Speaker 14: you got to remember it's a renewable resource, right, So yeah, 1253 01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:18,479 Speaker 14: it's it's it's a loss of potential profit. 1254 01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:20,760 Speaker 6: But you know there's plenty of cocaine. They just think 1255 01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:24,960 Speaker 6: more and you know, it's the system is just how 1256 01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:26,680 Speaker 6: do you get it to where you to market? And 1257 01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:29,040 Speaker 6: there's drug routes and there's plazas like all along the 1258 01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:32,920 Speaker 6: border they call like wars Is a major plaza and Tijuana, 1259 01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:35,080 Speaker 6: you know, all the big border cities, and then they 1260 01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:37,479 Speaker 6: move that stuff across the border and they have you know, 1261 01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:39,880 Speaker 6: a arrangements on our side of the border, warehouses and 1262 01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:41,559 Speaker 6: stuff where it gets stored and it gets cut up 1263 01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,439 Speaker 6: and then moved across the interstates or planes that use 1264 01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:46,400 Speaker 6: a lot of planes. And they also, you know, boats 1265 01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:48,519 Speaker 6: are big, so there's so many ways to get it 1266 01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:52,080 Speaker 6: in there. Blowing up. Yeah, two dozen drug boats is 1267 01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:55,040 Speaker 6: you know, like popping a pimple. You know, it's nothing, right, 1268 01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:57,920 Speaker 6: And yeah, for the guys that lost the cocaine, you know, 1269 01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:01,360 Speaker 6: but they're they got a problem. But the guys are 1270 01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:03,680 Speaker 6: competing with just moving and take over that market. Does 1271 01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:07,759 Speaker 6: that make sense? It's it's extreme, yeah, but it's it's funding. 1272 01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,759 Speaker 2: It's funding someone, right, I mean, the coc is funding 1273 01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:15,000 Speaker 2: something or someone, right, and it's probably directly linked back 1274 01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:18,080 Speaker 2: to the guy that's in charge of Venezuela and Maduro right. 1275 01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:20,400 Speaker 6: Well, yeah, I mean I think he had to take 1276 01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:23,679 Speaker 6: of it this way. Like all the corrupt politicians that 1277 01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,080 Speaker 6: the ones that we found that show up, everyone's along 1278 01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:29,640 Speaker 6: the states. It's the same down there, so it's not 1279 01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:31,760 Speaker 6: they get it cut it like in other words, I'll 1280 01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:34,280 Speaker 6: tell you how it worked. In Honduras. The guy that 1281 01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:38,000 Speaker 6: the president Honduras right got convicted, sentenced to forty five 1282 01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:42,040 Speaker 6: years in pardon just just recently by Trump. But what 1283 01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:46,080 Speaker 6: he was doing is he allowed the Cinelague cartel free 1284 01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:50,600 Speaker 6: passage through Honduras. In fact, helped guard the loads so 1285 01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:52,880 Speaker 6: they would pass through Honduras and then they get upped 1286 01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:55,960 Speaker 6: into Mexico up to the plazas along the border. And 1287 01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:57,960 Speaker 6: they asked him that he led about four hundred tons 1288 01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:00,679 Speaker 6: of cocaine through Honduras or ten years period where he's 1289 01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:04,559 Speaker 6: doing that, right or not when he was office so 1290 01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:08,519 Speaker 6: and and we died him and connected him and now 1291 01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,439 Speaker 6: he's out. But it's like that all over. There's so 1292 01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:14,000 Speaker 6: much money. I mean border patrol. I wanted to border. 1293 01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:17,000 Speaker 6: I mean, these guys are making you know, you know 1294 01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:19,280 Speaker 6: when I was covering a maybe fifty five grand a year, 1295 01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:23,200 Speaker 6: you know, by winking and letting loads through for the cartel, 1296 01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:25,679 Speaker 6: they could make that in a week. I mean maybe 1297 01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:27,880 Speaker 6: not a week, right, I mean they're getting ten grand 1298 01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:32,120 Speaker 6: pop for letting these loads through. And so there's there's 1299 01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:35,240 Speaker 6: weak points in every system and that you know, the 1300 01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:39,320 Speaker 6: cartels are the distribution just distributors. But you know it's 1301 01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:42,280 Speaker 6: like an iceberg. You always see the chapel, Guzman's and 1302 01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:44,439 Speaker 6: the you know the names, the bad villains, the guys 1303 01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:47,919 Speaker 6: in the black ant, but underneath that is the real cartel. 1304 01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:50,839 Speaker 6: And you know, none of this works unless the money's laundered. 1305 01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:54,439 Speaker 6: So the financial system is you know, huge player in 1306 01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:58,160 Speaker 6: laundering drug money and you know donald stream from that. 1307 01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:02,160 Speaker 6: You know, it's just suddenly gets you know into our 1308 01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:05,240 Speaker 6: economy and it's condos in Miami or it's real estate 1309 01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:12,240 Speaker 6: or Mexico wherever. Yeah, there's probably Yeah, I wanted to I. 1310 01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:15,280 Speaker 2: Want to go ahead, finish your thought. I want to 1311 01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:15,920 Speaker 2: tie this back to. 1312 01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:17,400 Speaker 6: The world with Venezuela. 1313 01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:17,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1314 01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:21,880 Speaker 6: The way the way it works is there's other the 1315 01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:26,000 Speaker 6: generals are you know, probably guarding or facilitating the transport 1316 01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:29,440 Speaker 6: of these loads, you know through Venezuela. Out of Venezuela 1317 01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,880 Speaker 6: they use planes to you know, not just boats. And 1318 01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:34,800 Speaker 6: they're getting a cut of the action, right, they get 1319 01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:39,840 Speaker 6: a cut for basically you know, facilitating, uh, the movement 1320 01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:42,720 Speaker 6: of the of the product. And you know, with Duro, 1321 01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:45,439 Speaker 6: no doubt is you know, getting a cut of all 1322 01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:47,960 Speaker 6: that action too. It's not like he has necessarily be 1323 01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:50,559 Speaker 6: involved in moving the drugs. He's just allowing it to 1324 01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:54,240 Speaker 6: happen and they pay him off. And in the Wayes 1325 01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:58,120 Speaker 6: explained to me this was about Mexico is if you're 1326 01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:01,799 Speaker 6: a politician or any kind of you know, public figure 1327 01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:04,840 Speaker 6: in a position with some power to that they would 1328 01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:08,160 Speaker 6: see you of use. You got two choices. Either, you know, 1329 01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:10,240 Speaker 6: if they're all going to say you can, you know, 1330 01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:14,320 Speaker 6: will pay you or essentially will kill you. And if 1331 01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:17,080 Speaker 6: you don't work with any of the cartels, you're against 1332 01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:19,080 Speaker 6: all of them. You know, you almost have to pick 1333 01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:20,040 Speaker 6: one to have protection. 1334 01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:25,000 Speaker 2: Well you got you got, yeah, okay, so you got this. 1335 01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:30,160 Speaker 2: Terasury Department UH started sanctioning as sanctioning seven family members 1336 01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:33,320 Speaker 2: of Maduro. That was Friday Rubio, the Secretary of State 1337 01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:38,240 Speaker 2: comes out and called transnational terrorists criminal organizations, praise some 1338 01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:43,520 Speaker 2: South American countries that are not transnationals, but slam Venezuela. 1339 01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:45,639 Speaker 2: And you mix all of that in with the fact 1340 01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:50,080 Speaker 2: that Trump thinks that Venezuela basically stole our oil. They 1341 01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:52,800 Speaker 2: certainly kept the rigging when they run ran countries out 1342 01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:56,120 Speaker 2: like Conco Phillips and they ran countries out like Shell 1343 01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:59,080 Speaker 2: and whatnot. So is the endgame here do you think 1344 01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:02,479 Speaker 2: in Venezuela or Trump to get those oil fields back, 1345 01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:05,839 Speaker 2: cut down on what goes out of Venezuela to places 1346 01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:10,240 Speaker 2: like China and in essence become an oil field for 1347 01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:12,599 Speaker 2: the United States. And you think that's the endgame here 1348 01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:14,440 Speaker 2: for him? 1349 01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:18,040 Speaker 6: In a word, yes, but I think getting there is 1350 01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:22,960 Speaker 6: a lot more of a complicated road. What as you know, 1351 01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:25,280 Speaker 6: they seize one of the tankers, that's like the like 1352 01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:28,400 Speaker 6: they rare. Maybe I can't remember a time that that. 1353 01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:31,080 Speaker 6: You know, these sank and chips, there's like there's like 1354 01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:33,920 Speaker 6: a thousand of them. And to set it up, let 1355 01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:36,519 Speaker 6: me set it up so that I can break it 1356 01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:42,519 Speaker 6: down real simple. Russia, Iran, and Venezuela all are sanctioned 1357 01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:46,719 Speaker 6: by the US, so they're basically blackballed from our financial system, 1358 01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:52,040 Speaker 6: et cetera. And so when they're delivering oil to China, 1359 01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:55,400 Speaker 6: and most of the Venezuela and oil eighty percent of 1360 01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:58,960 Speaker 6: it ends up in China right where and it's refined 1361 01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:02,960 Speaker 6: in China. We sanctioned a couple of Chinese they call 1362 01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:06,759 Speaker 6: the teapot refiners. There's our clandestine miners and they refine 1363 01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:10,519 Speaker 6: Iran's oil and uh, I mean in Venezuela. You know, 1364 01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:13,040 Speaker 6: if it doesn't come that you know, so basically that's 1365 01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:15,439 Speaker 6: and then it gets distributed in China and they pay 1366 01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:18,200 Speaker 6: you know, sub market prices for it because of the 1367 01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:21,639 Speaker 6: risk premium because they're all sanctioned, right, So it's cheaper oil, 1368 01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:25,000 Speaker 6: and it's that's that's helping the fuel of the Chinese economy. 1369 01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:28,559 Speaker 6: One SMI had is about four percent. Venezuelan oil accounts 1370 01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:33,360 Speaker 6: about four percent of China's oil use and China, I 1371 01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:36,400 Speaker 6: ran and Russia together about a quarter. So now think 1372 01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:39,479 Speaker 6: about that. So we are starting to seize the boat. 1373 01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:41,559 Speaker 6: We deceased one boat, and we put up a blockade 1374 01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,160 Speaker 6: to seize other sanctioned vessels. They figure and these are 1375 01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:47,960 Speaker 6: these aren't Venezuelan tankers. They're like they're fleets owned by 1376 01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:51,719 Speaker 6: private companies that maybe indirectly are being funded by Russia 1377 01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:55,439 Speaker 6: or you know, definitely Russia, uh and Iran and and 1378 01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:58,360 Speaker 6: they you know, they're like a pirate fleet. They come 1379 01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:01,000 Speaker 6: and they get the oil and they you know, they 1380 01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:04,720 Speaker 6: become ghost ships, so you can't track them and and 1381 01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:08,160 Speaker 6: they you know, maybe delivered it to Malaysia, which now 1382 01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:12,280 Speaker 6: which is suddenly a giant explort of oil and it 1383 01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:15,360 Speaker 6: doesn't have any because you know, they delire to a 1384 01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:18,880 Speaker 6: middle cour company country and then from Americas to China 1385 01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:20,960 Speaker 6: to try to mask where it's coming from. Right, that's 1386 01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:25,520 Speaker 6: the game. Well, we're we're seizing oil tankers out in Venezuela. 1387 01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:29,240 Speaker 6: That's an eight billion dollar black market for Venezuela and 1388 01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:32,520 Speaker 6: that is the real source of income, not the drugs, 1389 01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:36,120 Speaker 6: for the Venezuelan economy and frankly for Maduro's you know 1390 01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:40,960 Speaker 6: slush one. Right, and you know, Europe is starting to 1391 01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:44,160 Speaker 6: crack down a little bit more on these these uh 1392 01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:48,040 Speaker 6: you know ghosts sports ghost ships as well, not seizing them, 1393 01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:51,000 Speaker 6: but at port, making them prove they have insurance, et cetera. 1394 01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:54,400 Speaker 6: So they they're afraid to go into port. And then 1395 01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:58,679 Speaker 6: you know, finally the Ukrainians, you know, the war with Russia, 1396 01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:01,439 Speaker 6: they've been blowing these boat out, right, they've been going 1397 01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:04,080 Speaker 6: after them. So there's a lot of pressure on this 1398 01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:06,840 Speaker 6: this shadow oil fleet that's going around the world. Right, 1399 01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:09,240 Speaker 6: some of them won't go into Venezuela now because they're 1400 01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:12,040 Speaker 6: afraid of the blockade that's there and getting getting caught 1401 01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:13,800 Speaker 6: up in it. And they're all like older twenty year 1402 01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:18,000 Speaker 6: old tankers. They're literally like modern pirates to me. And 1403 01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:21,240 Speaker 6: that's the game. So as we increased pressure on Venezuela, 1404 01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:25,760 Speaker 6: and there's an increased pressure on Russians and you know 1405 01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:29,400 Speaker 6: Iran that chokes off oil to China, so you can 1406 01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:32,440 Speaker 6: see where this is headed. Russians are already well, it's 1407 01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:37,240 Speaker 6: setting it's it's warships to guard these ghost tankers for delivery. 1408 01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:40,400 Speaker 6: Venezuela the other day sent out it's ships to guard 1409 01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:43,040 Speaker 6: these takers. Now it's not going to it says, it's 1410 01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:45,160 Speaker 6: not going to have a confrontation with the US Navy. 1411 01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:47,280 Speaker 6: They would back off that they try to seize these 1412 01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:50,320 Speaker 6: but you can see how how hair trigger this is. 1413 01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:52,240 Speaker 6: All it takes is for one of these ships. That's 1414 01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:54,400 Speaker 6: how World War one started, right or World War two. 1415 01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:56,840 Speaker 6: You know they're sinking ships going across the ocean. It 1416 01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:59,800 Speaker 6: was Mercantaile ships that were that were the tip of 1417 01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:02,880 Speaker 6: the spear that ended up, you know, resulting in a 1418 01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:06,040 Speaker 6: Rul's war because everyone was blowing their Merchantais ships up. 1419 01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:10,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's yeah, I think that's where it's headed. 1420 01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:12,280 Speaker 2: I think, And as you mentioned earlier, you know that 1421 01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:15,200 Speaker 2: our conducts are one thing. It's more probably gets through 1422 01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:18,360 Speaker 2: than anything else, but it might have gotten Venezuela's attention. 1423 01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:20,760 Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, you're right, we're we're 1424 01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:24,080 Speaker 2: we're seizing ships and now we've got a blockade. Build 1425 01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:27,120 Speaker 2: your book. Dispatches from the House of Death, A war 1426 01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:31,560 Speaker 2: is cartel informed, a d As whistleblower, mass murder and 1427 01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:34,599 Speaker 2: a cover up on the edge of the Empire. That's out. 1428 01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:37,559 Speaker 2: But the great pretense, the tour through the bone yard 1429 01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:40,240 Speaker 2: of the CIA's war for drugs, that's out again. When 1430 01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:41,920 Speaker 2: it's out again in a couple of months, right, did 1431 01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:43,479 Speaker 2: you just say that February? 1432 01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:45,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, February nineteenth is supposed to be out, And just 1433 01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:49,400 Speaker 6: you know, they're almost like a series because it's all 1434 01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:51,560 Speaker 6: based on the reporting I did over twenty years on 1435 01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:56,080 Speaker 6: the drug war. And so one part looks that, you know, 1436 01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:58,639 Speaker 6: the US side of the border, in US law enforcement, 1437 01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:01,679 Speaker 6: that case is you know, that's going to Latin America 1438 01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:03,960 Speaker 6: as well, but it's more focused from this side. And 1439 01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:07,640 Speaker 6: then the new book is you know what's happening in 1440 01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:11,720 Speaker 6: Latin America in terms of our US law enforcement and 1441 01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:15,840 Speaker 6: intelligence agencies in the drug war. So that's the way 1442 01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:16,320 Speaker 6: to put it. 1443 01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:19,360 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, well Bill, Bill Conroy, we got to run. 1444 01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:22,639 Speaker 2: But those are the books and his thoughts on what 1445 01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:26,000 Speaker 2: exactly is going on in Venezuela. Good stuff. Bill, Thanks 1446 01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:27,800 Speaker 2: for joining us, carving out a little piece of your 1447 01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:30,280 Speaker 2: time today, and let's do this again. I want to 1448 01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:31,880 Speaker 2: do this again down the road. We got a lot 1449 01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:34,080 Speaker 2: more we got to get into. But for your time today, 1450 01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:35,599 Speaker 2: thank you. Well. 1451 01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:38,400 Speaker 6: I appreciate talking to you guys. All right, and happy 1452 01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:39,760 Speaker 6: holidays everyone out there. 1453 01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:44,600 Speaker 2: Yes, sir, Merry Christmas to you too. Christmas there, whatever. 1454 01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:47,280 Speaker 6: It is there, I've lost the celebrations. 1455 01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:50,519 Speaker 2: There you go, all right, Thank you, Bill Conroy to 1456 01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:53,720 Speaker 2: twenty seven News Radio seven hundred at WLW. 1457 01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:57,320 Speaker 4: It's a Saturday night slamothon as soon. If you're getting 1458 01:18:57,400 --> 01:18:59,040 Speaker 4: on with Georgetown, will. 1459 01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:01,920 Speaker 1: The Musketeers handle they is in this full court clash. 1460 01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:05,040 Speaker 1: Get the call live tonight at eight pm on seven 1461 01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:09,240 Speaker 1: hundred WLW or stream on the iHeartRadio app. 1462 01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:14,880 Speaker 2: At Little Miami Brewing. Big things continue to happen. 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Little Miami Brewing in the heart of downtown 1471 01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:49,360 Speaker 2: historic Milford. 1472 01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:51,479 Speaker 4: Getting ready for the while this sight your lawn has 1473 01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:52,120 Speaker 4: ever seen. 1474 01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:56,960 Speaker 11: Sunday, Sunday Sunday this spring unleash soil science. 1475 01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:57,599 Speaker 4: Like never before. 1476 01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:02,479 Speaker 2: Now, just at the start of the fourth quarter, Miami three, 1477 01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:06,519 Speaker 2: Texas A and m nothing the zero offense in this game, 1478 01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:10,080 Speaker 2: and the Miami kicker has missed three field goals kick 1479 01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:13,880 Speaker 2: four made one. So I know you're out there shopping. 1480 01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:15,720 Speaker 2: I'm looking out the window right here, I mean at 1481 01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:18,080 Speaker 2: the Kenwood Town Center. It is as you would expect 1482 01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:21,160 Speaker 2: the Saturday before Christmas. But do you know what you're 1483 01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:25,400 Speaker 2: shopping for? Do you know who you're shopping for? These 1484 01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:27,760 Speaker 2: are key questions because if you do, then you won't 1485 01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:31,599 Speaker 2: make a mistake that has apparently been a major mistake 1486 01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:34,080 Speaker 2: a lot of shoppers are making this holiday season, and 1487 01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:40,080 Speaker 2: that is buying the worst Christmas gift this year? Bet 1488 01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:45,080 Speaker 2: MGM Casino. Get this. They've taken a nationwide survey to 1489 01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:48,800 Speaker 2: find out what is the worst Christmas gift you can 1490 01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:51,920 Speaker 2: give this year. I know someone who's not giving the 1491 01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:55,800 Speaker 2: worst Christmas gift. She is an etiquette expert. I've had 1492 01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:59,360 Speaker 2: Valerie Sokolawski on my show many times. I know she 1493 01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:01,759 Speaker 2: always does the right thing. She is prim and proper, 1494 01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:06,280 Speaker 2: perfectly correct in everything she does. Is that right, val. 1495 01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:10,920 Speaker 5: No, I have a lot of ken. 1496 01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:14,000 Speaker 4: Well. 1497 01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:16,679 Speaker 2: She's also the author of the book do It Right? 1498 01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:19,680 Speaker 2: Do It Right? What is it that means living your 1499 01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:23,760 Speaker 2: life so you don't do the right thing in front 1500 01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:28,040 Speaker 2: of other people that you're always from an etiquette standpoint 1501 01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:30,360 Speaker 2: on solid ground? And that would get back to gift 1502 01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:33,799 Speaker 2: giving this holiday season. And here now is this list 1503 01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:39,040 Speaker 2: apparently the worst gift anyone can give anybody in this 1504 01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:43,439 Speaker 2: holiday season. Val are self help books? Whatever you do, 1505 01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:46,479 Speaker 2: don't give someone a self help book this holiday season? 1506 01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:50,800 Speaker 5: Well, I would agree with that. However, I'm wondering who 1507 01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:56,360 Speaker 5: wrote that, because maybe that's a real experience. You know, 1508 01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:59,080 Speaker 5: I'll buy my own self help books. I think that's 1509 01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:02,200 Speaker 5: the point. Ken. You don't have to a friend that 1510 01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:05,280 Speaker 5: or a relative doesn't have to tell me I need help. 1511 01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:07,360 Speaker 5: I know I need help, but if I do, I'll 1512 01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:09,680 Speaker 5: buy my own books. So I agree with that. 1513 01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:13,839 Speaker 2: There you go, don't buy self help books. Accept Valterie 1514 01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:16,240 Speaker 2: self help book, right, except. 1515 01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:18,800 Speaker 5: What you buy for yourself, which says something you know. 1516 01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:21,920 Speaker 5: If you've got enough emotional intelligence to know you might 1517 01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:24,519 Speaker 5: need a little self help, go buy a book and 1518 01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:27,800 Speaker 5: look at it, do some research, figure it out yourself. 1519 01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:30,519 Speaker 5: But right, don't give it to someone else. And that 1520 01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:31,400 Speaker 5: would be offensive. 1521 01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:31,880 Speaker 4: I think. 1522 01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:34,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I'm agreeing. I agree with you one hundred percent. 1523 01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:36,439 Speaker 2: But it would seem to me, if you're struggling right 1524 01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:39,400 Speaker 2: now to find a gift for someone else, find that 1525 01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:43,200 Speaker 2: perfect gift, you probably don't know that person. Is that 1526 01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:43,920 Speaker 2: fair to say? 1527 01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:48,320 Speaker 5: I think that's very fair. And one thing to do 1528 01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:52,120 Speaker 5: is to observe as much as you can someone that 1529 01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:54,800 Speaker 5: you're wondering what to buy a gift for. What do 1530 01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:59,560 Speaker 5: you know about that person? What have you observed for example, 1531 01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:02,200 Speaker 5: I have one of the best gifts just given to 1532 01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:06,040 Speaker 5: me by a woman who knows that we're going to 1533 01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:09,200 Speaker 5: have a little place in the country. We're getting it 1534 01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:12,759 Speaker 5: all fixed up, and she brought over a few days 1535 01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:17,880 Speaker 5: ago alive in a little pot, small fern that really 1536 01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:22,120 Speaker 5: can be planted. And because it's Christmas, she took the 1537 01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:25,479 Speaker 5: extra time and this is the point to put little 1538 01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:28,800 Speaker 5: lights around it like it was a Christmas tree. I'll 1539 01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:32,719 Speaker 5: never forget the intention that she gave it, that gave 1540 01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:37,599 Speaker 5: for that gift, the time it took to put something 1541 01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:42,920 Speaker 5: together for me. And I'm telling everyone about that because 1542 01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:45,719 Speaker 5: it shows that you have put some time and effort 1543 01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:48,040 Speaker 5: into it. And I'll tell you something else that's a 1544 01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:52,640 Speaker 5: really good gift for anyone, and that's an experience. For example, 1545 01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:57,679 Speaker 5: my son gave me tickets to go see a rock 1546 01:23:57,720 --> 01:24:02,000 Speaker 5: star that I like in country music, and that was 1547 01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:07,120 Speaker 5: extremely thoughtful. So think about experiences, think about tickets, but 1548 01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:09,960 Speaker 5: don't do the same old, same o. And for heaven's sakes, 1549 01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:11,360 Speaker 5: don't give underwear and socks. 1550 01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:17,639 Speaker 2: I no I could. By the way, you can't leave 1551 01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:19,599 Speaker 2: it at that val who's this rock story you're going 1552 01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:20,080 Speaker 2: to see? 1553 01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:27,440 Speaker 5: Oh Bell? It was in Nashville and it was Nate BARGATSI. 1554 01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:30,639 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, oh, great gift, great gift. 1555 01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:33,000 Speaker 5: Think he's the funniest thing since life break. 1556 01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:35,639 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah he was. He was just in town here. 1557 01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:38,800 Speaker 2: I want to say about a month ago, a couple 1558 01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:40,880 Speaker 2: of months ago. Was it October? What was it? What 1559 01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:45,000 Speaker 2: was that called big big dumb big world eyes, dumb eyes. Anyway, 1560 01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:48,400 Speaker 2: his world tour and play with the Bigger in a 1561 01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:51,360 Speaker 2: downtown see this is These are the kind of things 1562 01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:54,880 Speaker 2: I think that are great gifts because your kids knew 1563 01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:58,760 Speaker 2: mom likes something like that, they took the time to 1564 01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:00,280 Speaker 2: think about what you like. 1565 01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:05,360 Speaker 5: Absolutely, it is absolutely and it can be something simple, 1566 01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:09,840 Speaker 5: but again observation. Another example is if you know a friend, 1567 01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:13,640 Speaker 5: a woman in my case, that likes to journal, so 1568 01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:18,000 Speaker 5: get her a lovely above beyond the paper normal journal, 1569 01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:20,840 Speaker 5: get her a really nice journal or a nice pen 1570 01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:24,320 Speaker 5: to journal with. If you have someone that you know 1571 01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:28,479 Speaker 5: likes to cook, find some even silly. There's always new 1572 01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:32,920 Speaker 5: little gadgets for the kitchen, even spoons, things like that. 1573 01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:37,120 Speaker 5: So it's taking the personal aspect to it and being 1574 01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:41,000 Speaker 5: purposeful with a good intention. And you can't go wrong 1575 01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:44,479 Speaker 5: when you think other word rather than inward. It isn't 1576 01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:47,200 Speaker 5: about you this Christmas. It's about other people and what 1577 01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:49,520 Speaker 5: you want to give intentionally. 1578 01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:54,120 Speaker 2: Absolutely, And look, I think people struggle giving gifts or 1579 01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:56,760 Speaker 2: getting the right gift because they don't pay attention. We 1580 01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:58,519 Speaker 2: just talked about this a couple of minutes ago. But 1581 01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:01,599 Speaker 2: you know, if someone that is important to you and 1582 01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:04,880 Speaker 2: you don't see them that often, when you do see them, 1583 01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:07,280 Speaker 2: pay attention to what they do, what they need, what 1584 01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:09,640 Speaker 2: they use, and then store that in the back of 1585 01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:12,360 Speaker 2: your brain. And if you do that, here's a little 1586 01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:14,400 Speaker 2: tip that might save you some time and money in 1587 01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:16,720 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. But if you do that early enough 1588 01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:20,639 Speaker 2: in the year, you're not scrambling Christmas Eve a couple 1589 01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:23,640 Speaker 2: of days before Christmas running around trying to figure to 1590 01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:27,120 Speaker 2: what to get this particular person. All you have to do, 1591 01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:29,760 Speaker 2: and this is like ninety five ninety five percent of life. 1592 01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:32,719 Speaker 2: All you really have to do in life is pay attention. 1593 01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:36,040 Speaker 2: It's amazing what you see and understand if you simply 1594 01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:37,760 Speaker 2: pay attention. Am I right on this? 1595 01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:39,080 Speaker 5: Oh? 1596 01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:39,479 Speaker 6: Ken? 1597 01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:43,040 Speaker 5: You should write a book on that. 1598 01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:46,080 Speaker 2: Hey, you wrote do it right? I could write the book. 1599 01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:52,440 Speaker 6: I did it rightful. 1600 01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:53,800 Speaker 2: We could, we could sell we could go to bookstores 1601 01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:56,080 Speaker 2: and and and sell them in tandem. I guess. But 1602 01:26:56,120 --> 01:26:59,040 Speaker 2: I mean this is I mean, this isn't brain surgery, right. 1603 01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:02,559 Speaker 5: Yeah, it isn't that hard, honestly, it's just it's just 1604 01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:06,040 Speaker 5: do you care. Let's just simplify it to that. Absolutely 1605 01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:08,800 Speaker 5: what you said, think about it all year, and even 1606 01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:11,880 Speaker 5: make a list. If you see something that strikes the 1607 01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:14,120 Speaker 5: chord about someone and you think, you know, I'm going 1608 01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:16,200 Speaker 5: to remember that for Christens, write it down. 1609 01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:20,599 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, absolutely. If you have a bad memory anything right, Right, 1610 01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:23,080 Speaker 2: If you meet somebody for the first or second time 1611 01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:26,120 Speaker 2: and you know you have a difficult time remembering names, 1612 01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:28,439 Speaker 2: write the person's name down, and just a little bit 1613 01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:31,920 Speaker 2: about your interaction. By the way, we're chatting with Valerie Sokolowski. 1614 01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:34,000 Speaker 2: She is the author of the book Do It Right. 1615 01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:37,080 Speaker 2: A lot of the stuff in that book is you 1616 01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:39,479 Speaker 2: should know anyway, but a lot of it maybe can 1617 01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:42,120 Speaker 2: help craft your life in just a little bit different way. 1618 01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:44,280 Speaker 2: I bought the book now, by the way, I was 1619 01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:47,320 Speaker 2: the second or third time that we talked. I went out, 1620 01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:50,080 Speaker 2: I bought it on Amazon. I read it, and I 1621 01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:51,200 Speaker 2: highly endorse it. 1622 01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:52,720 Speaker 4: I do you know what. 1623 01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:56,479 Speaker 5: That's so honoring. Well, thank you. That means a great deal. 1624 01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:58,519 Speaker 5: You just made my day, week, and year. 1625 01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:01,760 Speaker 2: Thanks well, listen, you're making me and that's not a 1626 01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:04,719 Speaker 2: difficult thing to do for a redhead. Look, one more question, 1627 01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:08,320 Speaker 2: and that's about regifting. Regifting is okay, I think, but 1628 01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:11,760 Speaker 2: if you're going to regift, you might want to regift 1629 01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:14,320 Speaker 2: in a part of your family or friends that are 1630 01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:17,080 Speaker 2: on like the other side of the country so it 1631 01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:19,840 Speaker 2: doesn't come back and embarrass you. I think when you regift, 1632 01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:23,320 Speaker 2: you probably want to do it in some place that's 1633 01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:26,920 Speaker 2: safe harbor. Other than that, you're probably running the risk 1634 01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:30,800 Speaker 2: of making an embarrassing situation for everybody. Right. 1635 01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:34,280 Speaker 5: I think you said the right word. You better be safe. 1636 01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:37,519 Speaker 5: And I might have told you this on a show once, 1637 01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:40,360 Speaker 5: but I'll tell it again. A friend that came over 1638 01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:44,120 Speaker 5: regifted something. She forgot to take the tag off that 1639 01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:47,160 Speaker 5: had been gifted to her, and she walked in so 1640 01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:50,920 Speaker 5: proudly at this party and she said Merry Christmas and 1641 01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:52,080 Speaker 5: the tag said. 1642 01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:54,960 Speaker 4: To Joan love Mary. 1643 01:28:55,240 --> 01:29:01,639 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh my gosh. That yeah not good, right, 1644 01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:02,360 Speaker 2: not good? 1645 01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:03,439 Speaker 5: True story. 1646 01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:06,880 Speaker 2: So okay, So the person that did that, were they mortified. 1647 01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:11,000 Speaker 5: You know, I didn't say a word because that wouldn't 1648 01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:12,479 Speaker 5: be doing it right, would it. 1649 01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:14,599 Speaker 2: No? No, one hundred percent. You played it the right way, 1650 01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:17,840 Speaker 2: battery one hundred percent now, and regifting is okay. I 1651 01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:20,200 Speaker 2: don't have any problem with it done the right way, 1652 01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:22,680 Speaker 2: as we said, because if you get a gift and 1653 01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:26,559 Speaker 2: you don't need a gift, what's worse regifting it or 1654 01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:30,160 Speaker 2: just letting it sit somewhere and you never get any 1655 01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:32,479 Speaker 2: enjoyment out of it, never get any use out of it. 1656 01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:36,080 Speaker 2: But man, I'll tell you what if if if I 1657 01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:38,439 Speaker 2: did what that woman did to you, I would be 1658 01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:41,320 Speaker 2: talking to myself all the way home. I would be saying, 1659 01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:44,759 Speaker 2: you stupid, sweet. Can't you figure out one thing from another? 1660 01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:46,280 Speaker 7: Well? 1661 01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:49,640 Speaker 5: Yes, and you know, if you get something that you 1662 01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:53,120 Speaker 5: don't want, don't need, just think about how many people 1663 01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:56,800 Speaker 5: aren't getting anything. So do something with it. 1664 01:29:56,920 --> 01:29:57,479 Speaker 6: Do it right. 1665 01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:01,560 Speaker 5: You can take it to a shelter, to children's hospital, 1666 01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:07,080 Speaker 5: to whatever, and gift it to someone that would appreciate it. 1667 01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:11,200 Speaker 5: Don't just stick it in the closet, you know, keep 1668 01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:13,920 Speaker 5: giving it. A gift is worth giving more too. 1669 01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:17,880 Speaker 2: Absolutely, pass it on. I guess is what is what 1670 01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:20,280 Speaker 2: the popular vernacular is. By the way, you can find 1671 01:30:20,439 --> 01:30:24,920 Speaker 2: Valerie at Valeriandcompany dot com, Batteryancompany dot com. So if 1672 01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:27,439 Speaker 2: you're wandering around the streets here, you're a complete dolt. 1673 01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:30,080 Speaker 2: You don't know what's going on half the time. But 1674 01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:32,599 Speaker 2: enough about me. But if you're if you're, if you're 1675 01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:34,920 Speaker 2: that way, or even if you're a company that's just 1676 01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:37,040 Speaker 2: trying to get a little bit better in the way 1677 01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:40,599 Speaker 2: you present yourself to your employees or to your business partners. 1678 01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:47,080 Speaker 2: She is again, Valerie Sokolaski Valerie and Company dot com. Valerie, 1679 01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:49,200 Speaker 2: I wish you a merry Christmas. I know it will 1680 01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:52,280 Speaker 2: be the perfect Christmas because that's the way you are. 1681 01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:55,320 Speaker 2: You just do things perfectly. And of course for your 1682 01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:59,320 Speaker 2: time today, we thank you, stay well, it's so good 1683 01:30:59,320 --> 01:30:59,880 Speaker 2: to be with you. 1684 01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:00,960 Speaker 12: Marry Marry Mary. 1685 01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:06,120 Speaker 2: Yes, thanks you you bet you bet. No self help books. 1686 01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:09,599 Speaker 2: Here's some other bad ideas. Something totally off, totally off 1687 01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:13,920 Speaker 2: in size, vibe and taste. Don't give socks something not 1688 01:31:14,040 --> 01:31:18,840 Speaker 2: on someone else's wish list and a subscription. I mean, 1689 01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:23,519 Speaker 2: that's that's kind of lame. No self help books. It 1690 01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:25,680 Speaker 2: is coming up on two fifty three from a man 1691 01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:28,439 Speaker 2: who needs a lot of help. News Radio seven hundred 1692 01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:30,280 Speaker 2: w l W. 1693 01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:32,719 Speaker 1: When you're on the go, your kids deserve a clean, 1694 01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:35,439 Speaker 1: safe place to play, which is why over half a 1695 01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:36,479 Speaker 1: million parents trust