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Speaker 3: Well, well, well, Kyle Schwarber signed with Philadelphia Reupt five

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Speaker 3: years one hundred and fifty million. The Pirates had reportedly

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Speaker 3: that the Pirates quote actually weren't far off. Yeah, here's

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Speaker 3: the thing. Basic math tells me the Pirates were far off.

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Speaker 3: Four years one hundred mili plus is a long way

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Speaker 3: from five years one hundred and fifty mil. That is

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Speaker 3: far off. But the offer, as reported made by the

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Speaker 3: Pirates went up after the fact. It went up after

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Speaker 3: Schwarper signed with the Pirates, who got clarified that it

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Speaker 3: went up after Schwarper signed the Pirates and their students

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Speaker 3: should have gone all the way. Well, the Phillies offered

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Speaker 3: five years one hundred and fifty mil. The Pirates offered

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Speaker 3: In Penguins news of getting Malkin and Blake Lizant are

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Speaker 1: I make that my second line in terms of minutes

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Speaker 3: In NFL news, Mike Tomlin at his press conference today said,

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Speaker 1: He is black Trump. He's black Trump.

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Speaker 3: He is the second biggest bist artist in the country

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Speaker 3: of a lifetime contract. Yeah, I know the fans chanted fire, Tomlin,

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Speaker 3: they're not deciding, so don't pisted on my leg and

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Speaker 3: tell me it's raining. Indianapolis Colts fate with a crunch

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Speaker 3: back at age forty four, hasn't played in five years.

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Speaker 3: He should bring all his kids into play special teams

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Speaker 3: once he have twenty two kids. No, it's actually ten,

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Speaker 3: and he's a grandfather too. He just wants to get

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Speaker 3: out of the house. Dude, stop being Catholic for five seconds.

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Speaker 3: I'm begging you. I bet he's really piss Notre Dame

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Speaker 1: Joining me. Now it's Tommy Radio.

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Speaker 3: Tom I gotta ask, how did the offer to Schwarber

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Speaker 3: by the Pirates somehow go up after he re up

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Speaker 3: with the Phillies. They said it was four years one

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Speaker 4: It's really so laughable that anybody would say that too,

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Speaker 1: I mean, how do you buy into that, Kroc?

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Speaker 4: And how does anybody nationally locally, anybody report that with

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Speaker 3: Like I'm a big fan of both Noah Hayles who

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Speaker 4: They want to believe this is like they want to

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Speaker 3: And you have to way overpay to get any kind

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Speaker 3: But but they they there's no groundwork late to convince

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Speaker 4: You're so right with what you just said, and I

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Speaker 4: because you're pretending right now.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, it's not malpracticing.

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Speaker 3: It's lying, and it's what they're doing exactly what they

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Speaker 4: You're right, I made the classic mistake where I misidentified

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Speaker 4: But my point is, like, go out and entertain some

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Speaker 4: Tommy fam is probably And that's all you're gonna get. Though,

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Speaker 4: if you're Pittsburgh, they made a big mistake.

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Speaker 3: They need to find somebody that nobody else wants, that

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Speaker 3: I'd rather be in Mexico than pitch for the Pirates.

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Speaker 4: But like last year, someone like Paul gold Schmith signs

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Speaker 4: What would you have to overpay by because they're gonna

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Speaker 1: I just take the bs.

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Speaker 3: I just tat anybody acting like there was there for

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Speaker 3: a snowballs chance in hell of Kyle schwarb Or signing

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Speaker 3: If they had offered the same as the Phillies, he

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Speaker 1: But it doesn't matter because they were never going to

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Speaker 3: In fact, I don't believe they offered what is now

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Speaker 1: Period. They're liars, you know.

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Speaker 3: I can tell when Travis Williams and Ben Sherrington and

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Speaker 1: Their lips are moving.

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Speaker 4: The Pirates almost got them. Team is shaping up pretty

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Speaker 4: You got Naylor playing first base, you got Schwarver coming

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Speaker 4: great offseason. That's exactly what they were going to do

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Speaker 4: we were just in on that guy. Ah, shoot, I

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Speaker 3: No, I think their big acquisition that is going to

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Speaker 3: I always love it when the Pirates get a guy

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Speaker 4: you think there's a good chance that Jacksonwinsky's in this

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Speaker 1: They suck well.

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Speaker 3: The whole Schwarber situation reminds me of the half court

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Speaker 3: he doesn't know what's going on. If Schwarba would have

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Speaker 4: Father Pat, relaxed, Jackie, the beer company will pay it.

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Speaker 2: It's the dog part.

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Speaker 1: With all the dogs there.

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Speaker 2: And the people. You say that you don't really know

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Speaker 1: That'll surprise by eighteen goals, that many goals.

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Speaker 3: But then again, when you think he knew we lacked scoring,

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Speaker 3: Jarry's stats aren't overwhelming. He's seventh in save percentage, tenth

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Speaker 4: And I'm sure you'd say that it has been very

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Speaker 1: Not not not just me EJ, who knows more about

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Speaker 4: And how is it that that is such an obvious

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Speaker 3: Here nothink Jari has done wrong, He's been has been

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Speaker 4: But I'm just surprised that nothing, especially like that hasn't

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Speaker 3: I get it's because he wasn't among the first six

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Speaker 1: It is he hated Sullivan. He just did. He hated him.

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Speaker 3: And whether that and it is an excuse for making

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Speaker 3: One of the beat writers said he just hated him, like,

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Speaker 3: Didn't use Sully's name, and he said that the coaches

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Speaker 3: Troupe is a guy his head could get severed by

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's that kind of player.

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Speaker 3: He's been that dirty and that malicious that long where

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Speaker 1: You know what could be the answer to Jacob Truba tonight,

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Speaker 3: Getting back to Jari real quick, Tom, do you believe

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Speaker 3: Jari will get traded this year because they can't trade

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Speaker 3: Don't think that Dubas will disrupt the dressing room as

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Speaker 4: I don't think you can disrupt the dressing room right

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Speaker 4: I guess you could trade him now, but you're right,

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Speaker 4: it would just completely implode that locker room. And I

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Speaker 3: the offer they made to Swarbur, which seems like a

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Speaker 3: lot of money, but it's not when you know that

439
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Speaker 3: that Schwarber.

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Speaker 1: Will not take it.

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Speaker 3: And I've been talking about how so many of the

442
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Speaker 3: people who cover the Pirates for the various outlets in

443
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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh or Pirate fans, And you might say there's nothing

444
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Speaker 3: wrong with that. I think the best relationship to have

445
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Speaker 3: when you cover a team with that team is adversarial.

446
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Speaker 3: And if you think I don't cover the Penguins in

447
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Speaker 3: that fashion, boy, you should see some of the emails

448
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Speaker 3: and texts I've gotten over the years from people who

449
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Speaker 3: work for that team and played for that team when

450
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Speaker 3: I've been critical.

451
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Speaker 1: And for me it's the opposite reason.

452
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Speaker 3: It's the team I've supported since I'm a boy, and

453
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Speaker 3: it belongs to me as much as them. I've said

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Speaker 3: that to players, this team belongs to me more than

455
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Speaker 3: does you, and some smirk, and you know what, if

456
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Speaker 3: few have understood, and I think you could probably guess

457
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Speaker 3: exactly who the ones who have understood are.

458
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Speaker 1: But with the.

459
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Speaker 3: Pirates, they need to be covered like a crime syndicate.

460
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Speaker 3: That's what the media and Pittsburgh should treat them like

461
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Speaker 3: an ongoing criminal endeavor, because their design is to cheat

462
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Speaker 3: this city and all of you out of every single

463
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Speaker 3: penny they can. And if that's not true, show me

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Speaker 3: any evidence whatsoever to the contrary. Over the past decade

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Speaker 3: in that vein, I don't think we've criticized Notre Dame enough. Tom.

466
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Speaker 3: I keep hearing Notre Dame got screwed, and I keep

467
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Speaker 3: asking people to tell me how specifically did Notre Dame

468
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Speaker 3: get screwed. I know you don't feel they did, But

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Speaker 3: if you can put yourself in their shoes for a second,

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Speaker 3: why would they say that.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to rack my head on a good reason

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Speaker 4: putting myself in Notre Dame shoes.

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Speaker 1: I hate these shoes. They're uncomfortable shoes. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you lost.

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Speaker 4: You played two games against really good teams this year,

476
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Speaker 4: Miami and Texas, A and m two playoff teams.

477
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Speaker 1: You lost them both.

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Speaker 4: If you split one of those games, if you just

479
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Speaker 4: split that series, you're in.

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Speaker 1: No questions asked, You're in. So you did it to yourself.

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Speaker 4: I know that was all the way back in August

482
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Speaker 4: and then the first week of September, but still counts.

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Speaker 1: Those were regular season games. Why did Notre Dame specifically

484
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Speaker 1: get screwed? And not say Texas or say BYU?

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Speaker 4: Who I think Byu actually has a bigger case of

486
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Speaker 4: being screwed than Notre Dame because remember what they said

487
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Speaker 4: with Alabama, Mark, We're not punishing Alabama because you lose

488
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Speaker 4: in a conference championship game.

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Speaker 1: That's what they did to BYU.

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Speaker 4: They punished BYU because they lost in the big team

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Speaker 4: championship game.

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Speaker 1: Who would win a game between BYU and Notre Dame.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't really matter, though, does it.

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Speaker 4: I think Notre Dame would beat a lot of teams

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Speaker 4: in the playoffs case it does, but I think Notre

496
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Speaker 4: Dame would beat Alabama. I think Notre Dame would beat Oklahoma.

497
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Speaker 4: I think Notre Dame would beat All miss. They would

498
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Speaker 4: definitely beat the group of five teams that are in there.

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Speaker 3: But I don't think Notre Dame would beat any of

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Speaker 3: the above. Oh would aside from the group of five games, No,

501
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Speaker 3: they definitely would. None of those teams are good. Mark,

502
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Speaker 3: there's four good teams this year in college football, the

503
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Speaker 3: top four, four great teams. Everybody else can be beat. Well,

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Speaker 3: I can't compare Notre Dame to James Madison a two

505
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Speaker 3: lane because of course not a college football playoff won

506
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Speaker 3: an x amount of that level team, and it is

507
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Speaker 3: for all the wrong reasons. They hope that someday that

508
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Speaker 3: can recreate the first round March madness upset in a

509
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Speaker 3: game like that. It's just never gonna happen because, as

510
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Speaker 3: I've said repeatedly, football and basketball at that level just

511
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Speaker 3: aren't the same.

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Speaker 4: There's no equivalent right for a JMU or two lane

513
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Speaker 4: in football to get hot from three point range, right like,

514
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Speaker 4: shoot sixty percent from three and just overwhelm somebody with that,

515
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Speaker 4: and you can't you can't overcome it in two halves

516
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Speaker 4: of basketball.

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Speaker 3: And in football, having two good players doesn't make you

518
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Speaker 3: potentially a great team. We're in basketball it does.

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Speaker 4: And you know where the difference really shows at that level,

520
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Speaker 4: mark it's in the trenches. Right Like teams like Oregon

521
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Speaker 4: who's playing James Madison, They're just gonna wash James Madison

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Speaker 4: off the field. That line of scrimmage is gonna get

523
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Speaker 4: pushed back five yards either direction, defensively or offensively, and

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Speaker 4: they're gonna run it right down their throats. They will

525
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Speaker 4: barely have to crack open their playbook. This is basically

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Speaker 4: like a up game for those teams.

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Speaker 3: So let's say the big debate is Bama or Notre Dame.

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Speaker 3: Would you agree with that? I think so, because Miami

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Speaker 3: with the head just forget about James Madison tu lane

530
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Speaker 3: for reasons I just described. You'd say the tenth team

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Speaker 3: was Bama.

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Speaker 1: Well they technically were nine. Ten was Miami and they

533
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Speaker 1: said we'll head to head. You have to play Miami

534
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Speaker 1: beat Notre Dame. So there's no argument there.

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Speaker 4: I agree with that. So if you wanted to argue

536
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Speaker 4: Alabama versus Notre Dame, I think I would put Notre

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Speaker 4: Dame in. Why because I think they're better than Alabama,

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Speaker 4: And I think that's part of.

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Speaker 1: What the committee is.

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Speaker 3: Give me some kind of of like evidence where Notre

541
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Speaker 3: Dame is better than Bama.

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Speaker 4: Alabama has not been able to run the ball for

543
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Speaker 4: a month straight. They just ran for negative three net

544
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Speaker 4: rushing yards against Georgia. Meanwhile, Notre Dame I think has

545
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Speaker 4: the best player in the country who plays running back.

546
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Speaker 4: They run all over with recency. I think that's what

547
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Speaker 4: you should go within a certain degree. Maybe, I mean,

548
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Speaker 4: there's a lot of elements to this. I think you

549
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Speaker 4: should win.

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Speaker 3: Bama beat Georgia earlier in the year, but it's earlier year.

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Speaker 3: Bamas from the SEC.

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Speaker 4: Bamas from the SEC, and they were the second place

553
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Speaker 4: team in the SEC tnically the first place team in

554
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Speaker 4: regular season standings. They finished number one after the regular seasons.

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Speaker 3: Well, you said earlier, and I agree that if Notre

556
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 3: Dame would have won one of their two losses, they're

557
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Speaker 3: in shame, no doubt. I'll tell you another thing they

558
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 3: could do that would have got him in for sure,

559
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Speaker 3: Join the ACC.

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Speaker 1: I think the ACC. They're definitely in the playoff also

561
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Speaker 1: because they would run that conference every year, don't no question.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. Is it arrogance because.

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Speaker 3: They just have this mistaken impression that they're special, that

564
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Speaker 3: they are above the rest of college football because they've

565
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 3: always been independent, always had that national TV deal. But

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Speaker 3: tom the reaction to them being big effing babies because

567
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Speaker 3: they didn't make the playoff shows they're not special because

568
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Speaker 3: except for Notre Dame fans, everybody else thinks they're acting

569
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Speaker 3: like an ass.

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Speaker 1: They do.

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Speaker 4: But then they're also gonna get special treatment from the

572
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Speaker 4: NCAA next year with that clause that kicks in where

573
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Speaker 4: if they finished top twelve, they're in. No matter what

574
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 4: eleventh place team you're out, Notre Dame gets an automatic bid.

575
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Speaker 4: So for some reason, the NCUBLEA, even though Notre Dame

576
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Speaker 4: had very little leverage nowadays, decided to bend the need

577
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Speaker 4: of them again and say sure, we'll put this in.

578
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Speaker 3: Well, and that rule that takes effect next year, that

579
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Speaker 3: guarantees in that spot if they're twelve.

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Speaker 1: For above.

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Speaker 3: That goes back to why Notre Dame feels so raw

582
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Speaker 3: now because they've gotten the benefit of every doubt up

583
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Speaker 3: until now.

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Speaker 1: Up until this very one instant yes again, which.

585
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Speaker 3: Makes them even bigger babies, because it's one time things

586
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Speaker 3: didn't go their way.

587
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Speaker 4: And again you can trace it back at the end

588
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,199
Speaker 4: of this all it boils down. It simplifies to the

589
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 4: fact that you lost your two important football games this year.

590
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Speaker 4: Just win one of them and you're in. That's all

591
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Speaker 4: it took for them. And by the way, it was

592
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Speaker 4: a huge mistake. I think to expand past four.

593
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Speaker 1: I like it.

594
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Speaker 4: I like having twelve teams to reveal the extra football.

595
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Speaker 4: But as I've said and pounded the table on these

596
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Speaker 4: past couple of days, you only need four. There are

597
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Speaker 4: four teams that can win the title. That's going to

598
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Speaker 4: be the case almost every year. Ever heard that Joe

599
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Speaker 4: Katie get it unpregnant. I've been trying to figure out

600
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Speaker 4: a way to adapt.

601
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Speaker 3: That, to make the punchline be a Notre Dame got screwed,

602
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Speaker 3: but there's no even remotely tasteful way to do it.

603
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Speaker 3: And here's the worst part about Notre Dame being left

604
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 3: dot Tom. Those fans will bitch about this forever. You

605
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,239
Speaker 3: already had one of their players posted, you know, their

606
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 3: schedule for next year, the teams they're playing. The opponents said,

607
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 3: we're out to punish every one of these people, right, like,

608
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Speaker 3: like all of those opponents conspired to keep you out

609
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Speaker 3: of this playoff.

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Speaker 1: But that's Notre Dame. They just think they're on some

611
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: kind of holy crusade.

612
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 4: Meanwhile, at backfire, really at backfires, because the player puts

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Speaker 4: out that schedule and he's like, Revenge Tour twenty twenty

614
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Speaker 4: six Notre Dame football. It's the softest schedule you've ever seen.

615
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Speaker 4: They play nobody. I think Miami's their toughest game. Next year,

616
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Speaker 4: They're just gonna ease their way into eleven and one

617
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Speaker 4: get number ten in the country, and that clause is

618
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 4: gonna kick in and they're automatically gonna qualify. I'm honestly

619
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Speaker 4: so happy to see Notre Dame crash out as hard

620
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Speaker 4: as they are Right now.

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Speaker 1: I gotta bring this up did you see the interview

622
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Speaker 1: after the game?

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Speaker 3: Lest I justin Herbert after yes Peed Philadelphia was kind

624
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Speaker 3: of rude to the I don't know who that was

625
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Speaker 3: the interview Arren rut Ledge. Yeah, Like, would you say

626
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Speaker 3: he was rude? Yes, I think he was rude just

627
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Speaker 3: a little. I thought he was distracted more than rude.

628
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Speaker 4: I thought that he Well, the first initial thing that

629
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Speaker 4: you caught in the hot Michael he saying, I just

630
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 4: want to go celebrate with my team, and then Lauren

631
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 4: was like, well, can we just have to have a

632
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 4: word with you here for a second, and then he

633
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 4: just had that, you know that that face that looked

634
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Speaker 4: like he was really I said to him, if I'm.

635
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Speaker 1: Her and I have any prize an interview, I say, okay,

636
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Speaker 1: get lost, go have fun.

637
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Speaker 4: I guess she feels obligated to do it though, because

638
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 4: he has to do it. It's part of the agreement

639
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Speaker 4: quarterbacks for the winning team.

640
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Speaker 3: I said, I would have said, look justin literally, we're

641
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Speaker 3: both required to.

642
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Speaker 4: Do this exactly, and it's just such a layup interview too. Hey,

643
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Speaker 4: how to go out there. Guys came together, get their

644
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 4: wind the hand. I don't care what players have to say.

645
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Speaker 1: Well they never say anything interesting.

646
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Speaker 3: Well, I don't care what they have to say, Like my, my,

647
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Speaker 3: you know, my theory about about this show is a

648
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 3: most important guest second, uh callers third, But I am

649
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 3: number one by a large margin because I control me.

650
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Speaker 3: But like, when's the last time we had an athlete

651
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 3: on this show say something truly interesting? And I'm grateful

652
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Speaker 3: when they come on, and I'm lying through my teeth

653
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Speaker 3: when I say that, all the people remember is who

654
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 3: the athlete has. They don't remember with sid or Mario.

655
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Speaker 3: And then I am grateful too, along with Troy, because

656
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Speaker 3: they're the three unique guys that I had on who

657
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 3: always did good work and said memorable things on this show.

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Speaker 1: But mostly who cares?

659
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know that seems to be what the debate

660
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 4: is evolving too. It's just like who cares about these

661
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 4: after game interviews? They don't say anything interesting?

662
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: I thought about who cares what they have to say

663
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: at all? In general?

664
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Speaker 4: I agree with that, and that's on the athlete too,

665
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 4: Like show some personality right, like come across like I like,

666
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 4: I just want to talk.

667
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: I would like a Kenny Powers out there. I would

668
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:32,239
Speaker 1: like somebody like that.

669
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Speaker 3: I give I always gave Kornheiser credit because he used

670
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 3: to have a radio show.

671
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: He stopped having coaches and athletes.

672
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 3: He said, when you have coaches and athletes, they never

673
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 3: say anything interesting, and then you're indebted to them.

674
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: He just had other writers and broadcasters. I love Tony.

675
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 4: I also love like a golden rule that he had

676
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 4: on his radio show radio show too. I think where

677
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 4: if you called in, don't ask him how he's doing, Like,

678
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 4: don't say, hey, how's your day going, because you don't care.

679
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 4: I don't care. Just get into your topic and get

680
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 4: the hell out of it. I got bad from the

681
00:29:58,640 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 4: Kornheiser show.

682
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 3: Why When I was working for ESPN and he was

683
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 3: doing the National show for ESPN, they did a mock

684
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 3: draft the year we drafted Plex. I think that was

685
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 3: one maybe yes, And they were supposed to have Bouchette

686
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 3: on to make the draft pick, which now they introduced me.

687
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: We tried to get ed Bouchette from the Post Gauzette,

688
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: but he wasn't available. So here's Mark Madden from ESPN

689
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Speaker 1: twelve fifty.

690
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 3: So at that point, I'm obviously, you know, kind of

691
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 3: pissed and so, but I didn't straight I picked Plex

692
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 3: who they did pick that year, and then Kuiper's on.

693
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 3: I go, hey, mal can I ask you a question

694
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 3: and he goes, yeah, go ahead. I go, how come

695
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 3: every single year you get like none of the draft

696
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 3: picks right, like nobody in the first round goes where

697
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 3: you say?

698
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: And then the next year the.

699
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 3: Expert again, because I've asked that question on the show,

700
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 3: how do you pull that off? And of course they

701
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 3: hung up on me, and Tony said, I was banned

702
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 3: from the show. But years later I had Mel on

703
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 3: the show and I repeated that question. He goes, that's

704
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 3: a really good question. I'm just glad it works out.

705
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Speaker 1: See.

706
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Speaker 4: I think Mel Kuiper has a lot of self awareness

707
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 4: about him, Like I think he laughs that stuff off.

708
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 4: That Tony would ban you from the show for taking

709
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 4: a shot at Mel. You didn't even take a shot

710
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 4: at Tony, who deserved the shot for saying what he

711
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 4: said when.

712
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: He brought you on.

713
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 4: How could he do that? Well, No, that's just Tony.

714
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 4: It's a weird way to bring somebody on though. I mean,

715
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 4: it's kind of funny, but it's weird.

716
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 3: That's like one time I was on ESPN TV and

717
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 3: this may have been my last appearance on ESPN TV.

718
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 3: The Steelers are playing the Patriots in the AFC Championship game.

719
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 3: Maybe two thousand and one sounds right, And it was

720
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 3: the Cordel AFC Championship game.

721
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: The Brady game, right, the Bletsoe game when Bletsoe had

722
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: to play.

723
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, And they had me on, and the Patriots radio

724
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 3: guy goes on this long like you know, babyface die tribe, saying, Hi,

725
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 3: the Patriots is superior team and raw raw, and we're

726
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 3: gonna kill the Steelers blah blah blah.

727
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: Then they cut to me and I go, yeah, he's

728
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: probably right, and they're like, what do you mean. I go, well, no,

729
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: I mean he made a lot of good points.

730
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 3: I mean I think the Patriots are the better team,

731
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 3: and I talked about the Steelers weaknesses and why I

732
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 3: felt the Patriots would probably win, which, of course is

733
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 3: exactly how it turned out. And then afterwards the producer

734
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 3: calls me back because why did you do that? I go,

735
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 3: what you mean, That's how I really feel about the game.

736
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 3: He goes, well, we wanted you guys to like battle

737
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 3: with each other. Go then you need to tell me that.

738
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 3: Don't assume that I'm a Homer.

739
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Speaker 1: Wow.

740
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Speaker 4: Look, you could see the beginning stages of what ESPN

741
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 4: was going to become there, right, it's all about debate,

742
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 4: debate format you're to begin tonight.

743
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Speaker 3: I see the beginning stages of them getting rid of me,

744
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Speaker 3: a wintry mix tonight, a mix of snow and rain,

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Speaker 1: DX dog part.

756
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Speaker 2: With all the dog there and then people you see.

757
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Speaker 2: I don't really know because it's the dog park. It's

758
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Speaker 2: the dog park.

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Speaker 1: Tom, what do we got for today's trifectum?

760
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 4: For the trifecta today mark in honor of Philip Rivers

761
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 4: coming back at forty four years old. We don't know

762
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 4: that for short doing well He signed he's on the

763
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 4: practice Yes, he's a practice squad member of the Indianapolis.

764
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: So are their quarterbacks? Now?

765
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 3: They got the rookie who's banged up Richardson's rivers? Is

766
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 3: that all they got is the rookie and Philip Rivers.

767
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 4: Philip Rivers and the rookie is their quarterbacks. And Leonard's

768
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 4: banged up this week, like you said, so there's no

769
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 4: guarantee that he could even play. There's got to be

770
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Speaker 4: some other bumby guy. I guess that they'd signed to

771
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 4: their team just to fill out a roster at that spot.

772
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Speaker 3: I'd like to see them use Peyton Manning just to

773
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 3: get that Manning cast off a Monday Night TV. That

774
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 3: is the worst TV ever, that that Monday Night simul cast.

775
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 4: Do you think Ben wishes he got the call? Do

776
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 4: you think Ben is thinking, well, Philip can do it, I.

777
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: Can do it, right. Ben's not as Catholic all right?

778
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 4: But anyway, my trifecta today, I got three athletes and

779
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 4: movies that just looked like old bastards in those movies.

780
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 4: Number three, I'm going with Harrison Major League. Looked like

781
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 4: he was like a fifty five year old pitcher there

782
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 4: for the Indians in that movie. I'm sure he was

783
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 4: supposed to play like a thirty year old vet, but

784
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 4: he looked way older than that. It was supposed to

785
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 4: be Gaylord Perry, did you know that that's what he

786
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 4: was supposed to be?

787
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: Indians back in the set? Didn't he played until he

788
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: was like eighty or something like that. Didn't Perry play

789
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: forever for a while? Yes, number two? And then you cheat?

790
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 1: You can you know you can do that? Keep going

791
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: And this is who Philer Rivers is most like.

792
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 4: But Paul Blake Scott Bakula in Necessary Roughness coming back

793
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 4: to play for the college team when he was what

794
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 4: forty years old? Welcome to football. But number one's got

795
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 4: to be Red Dunlop right and slap shot. I mean,

796
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 4: was Paul Newman fifty two years old when they filmed

797
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 4: that movie. He's out there looking like the Silver Fox

798
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 4: in that skating around the ice.

799
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: Yeah. It never.

800
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Speaker 3: The thing is I've seen in the low minors, not

801
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 3: least back then for hockey, so many guys who looked

802
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 3: that old end really Yeah.

803
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: So like like he fit right in that look. Okay,

804
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 1: that's it for me who has not seen a lot

805
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: of people that looked like that.

806
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 3: That's that's not accurate for me to say, though, Tom,

807
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 3: because like when Slapshot came out, I was like thirteen,

808
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 3: So it wasn't like I was driving up to John's time.

809
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: To see to see Jets games. Yeah, the who the

810
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: movie was based on the Johnston Jets.

811
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean like there have been, you know, athletes

812
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 4: that have looked that old for sure. I think Sid's

813
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 4: gonna start to get that silver fox thing going sooner

814
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 4: or not later. But he just looked a little old

815
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 4: out there to be playing hockey. But those three are

816
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 4: my guys. I was gonna put Burt Reynolds from the

817
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 4: remake of The Longest Yard two, the coach version of

818
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 4: Burt Reynolds, because he's old as dirt when he comes

819
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 4: in there for that final play.

820
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 3: That run play designed to be old though design Oh yeah, exactly, Yeah,

821
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 3: designed to be Burt Rentlands.

822
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 4: So I left him off the list. I hope Phil

823
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 4: Rivers plays, though, Mark. I think it's trending in that

824
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 4: direction too, which I'm excited about.

825
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 3: If he's if he, I mean he's on the practice squad,

826
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 3: why wouldn't he just jump right on the roster though.

827
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 1: I think they want to have him practice today and tomorrow.

828
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: But what are the alternatives.

829
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 4: I guess it's just Riley Leonard with the bum whatever

830
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 4: he has. I think, so they have to I'm gonna

831
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 4: look that up right now. There's got to be another

832
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 4: option out there for the Colts that they signed. But

833
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 4: I think we're gonna see Rivers if he as long

834
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 4: as he can operate an offense. I think that's the

835
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 4: last thing they have to check off. I think he's

836
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 4: going to do.

837
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 3: You know that restarts his Hall of Fame clock. Yes,

838
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 3: which sucks. That's stupid.

839
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 4: He was a semi finalist this coming class, That's what

840
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 4: I mean. Yeah, it's wild for him. He wouldn't get

841
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 4: in there.

842
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: That'll be just as dumb. Yeah, but then he has

843
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: to wait five years again.

844
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 3: That'll be just as dumb as is the is the

845
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 3: Hockey Hall of Fame not letting yags in because he's

846
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 3: still playing.

847
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: In some po dunk league in check. Yeah, I agree

848
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 1: with you, and I think Rivers is a Hall of Famer.

849
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: I think that all.

850
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 4: I think all three of that class, that quarterback class

851
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 4: is going to go in and it's going to be

852
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 4: held up as one of the greatest quarterback classes ever.

853
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,479
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, the Rivers, Manning, and Roethlisberger class.

854
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: You know what this does? This point guarantees Ben and

855
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 1: Eli both get in on first ballot.

856
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 4: Eli already missed his first ballot. Eli was available, That's right,

857
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 4: really did he?

858
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: Yeah? He didn't get in on the first back. It

859
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: shocks me. Yeah, it doesn't because of New York. Do

860
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: you think Ben will get in first ballot? It depends on.

861
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 4: Who he's with, because Brady's gonna be on there soon. Right,

862
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 4: that's an automatic first ballot. Ben is better than Eli,

863
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 4: Ann Rivers if you look at that and those three.

864
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 4: He won out from those three. So if one's first ballot,

865
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 4: to me, it.

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00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: Would be Ben. Yeah. But Ben didn't play in New York.

867
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 4: He didn't play in New York. Yeah, that's why we

868
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 4: thought he was gonna go first ballots, and he did not.

869
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 4: Eli also only went on two playoff runs. He just

870
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 4: happened to win the Super Bowl.

871
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 3: Time is tremendous that the only two years he ever

872
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 3: even won a playoff game, he won the Super Bowl.

873
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 3: I know, Tom, here here's some news and I'll get

874
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 3: to this later. Did you see the new rule FIFA

875
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 3: put in for the World Cup. No, there are now

876
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Speaker 3: mandatory hydration breaks midway through each.

877
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Speaker 4: Half, and this is taking place this summer. Yep, they

878
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 4: did that when they had the World Cup and guitar right.

879
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Speaker 3: Tom, focused big picture. Those aren't hydration breaks, those are

880
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 3: commercial breaks. They finally found a way to ruin it soccer.

881
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, just sucks.

882
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Speaker 3: But on the bright side, Shedor Sanders is going to

883
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Speaker 3: start the rest of the season for Cleveland. Tom, I

884
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 3: gotta get this in before we we go to break

885
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 3: and ignore my radio show to watch over Pool and Inner.

886
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Speaker 1: But but uh, now, I forget shard Door. Was it

887
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Speaker 1: something right?

888
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Speaker 3: You know, if if Burrow's healthy all next year and

889
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 3: should Dour, I mean, Sara was great, really good, and

890
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 3: if Baltimore's roster plays up to his capability next year,

891
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 3: it could be rough on the Steelers next year.

892
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 4: I kind of thought that would be the case this year,

893
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 4: right with the Bengals and the Ravens, and they just

894
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:25,280
Speaker 4: really sputtered.

895
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: You're right.

896
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 4: If things keep breaking in a direction where those two

897
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 4: stay healthy, the Ravens and Bengals, and should Or keeps improving,

898
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 4: it could get pretty dire for the Steelers. Deshaun Watson

899
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 4: comes back next year too, potentially, Mark, don't forget about that.

900
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Speaker 1: But isn't he just gonna be like a mentor?

901
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 4: I think so, or maybe massage therapist a terrible mentor,

902
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 4: just a terrible mentor.

903
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Speaker 1: We're gonna they should stand a quarterback room. Listen. Don't

904
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Speaker 1: listen to anything this guy says, especially off the field.

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