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Speaker 1: Tim Jenkins at t Jenkins Elite All Things QB on

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Speaker 1: YouTube like Common subscribe for the algorithm. You guys know

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Speaker 1: the drill? Uh Tim? This last video, man, people really

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Speaker 2: How are you? Yeah, I'm doing great. I'm doing great.

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Speaker 2: I think Broncos country excited too, and uh yeah it was.

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Speaker 2: It was a good one for both. So.

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Speaker 1: I was having a conversation with any Fowler the other

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Speaker 1: day and he was telling me how that he said

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Speaker 1: that this was one of one of Bonix's better games

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Speaker 1: as far as anticipation and throwing with anticipation, as if

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Speaker 1: watching your breakdown, it felt like you weren't completely thrilled

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Speaker 1: with some of the things you saw for the first

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Speaker 1: three quarters. Obviously loved what you saw in the forest.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about that statement?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think Beny far Off, I think to

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Speaker 3: me it was a lot of I joked about the video.

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Speaker 3: I think the video is like seventeen the sixteen or

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Speaker 3: seventeen clips. Darn near half of them are the first

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Speaker 3: three quarters, and then there's half in the fourth quarter, right,

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Speaker 3: because it wasn't just Bo. And this is where I

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Speaker 3: think people get frustrated sometimes when I'm like optimistic about, Hey,

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Speaker 3: I thought that was a great performance. Is I think

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Speaker 3: oftentimes we conflate the quarterback struggling with the offense not moving,

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Speaker 3: and that's not always the exact reason.

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Speaker 3: It's not always, Hey, the offense isn't moving and it's

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Speaker 2: We know that's not true. Right. You can look at

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Speaker 2: a lot of stuff where you have protection breakdowns, or it's.

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Speaker 3: Like the run game wasn't working, or they shoot, we

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Speaker 3: of those games where I really feel like Bo actually

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Speaker 3: stuff we've talked about previously with you know, manipulating the

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Speaker 2: And I think you saw it kind of all come

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Speaker 2: to a head in the fourth quarter where everyone was

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Speaker 3: Job, including him and the calls were great, and then

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Speaker 3: to me, I think there's something to be said about

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Speaker 3: Bowl champions with your second year quarterback lighting it up

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Speaker 3: in not the first quarter.

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Speaker 2: When it doesn't mean anything, not the second or the third,

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Speaker 2: but the fourth. I think there's something to be excited

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Speaker 4: Week, Tim, this talk about the part of the game

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Speaker 4: that the fans need to be excited about. I know,

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Speaker 4: obviously you talk about the play calling and BO, but

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Speaker 4: for me, my first thought goes back to the running game,

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Speaker 4: because I felt as though the running game opened up

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Speaker 4: everything else for BO and the play calling for for Sean.

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Speaker 4: How do you feel about Daddy? How do you look

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Speaker 4: at saying Okay, well, the running game really gave the

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, anybody knows, right, he's been under center.

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Speaker 3: Second and six heck of a lot better than second

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Speaker 3: Right, we're actually pulling people up front. We call it

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Speaker 2: Pulling guys up front to really influence. I think that's

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Speaker 3: The boot that we had where Ingram ends up scoring

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Speaker 3: We ran the identical run action a drive earlier. Right,

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Speaker 2: Game, and to me, I think it's an exciting time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't blame in one bit. I remember being on.

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Speaker 3: Your show talking about Russell Wilson coming. I was like, man,

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Speaker 2: Hey, look at this.

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Speaker 3: To me, I can't even remember what team it was

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Speaker 3: Right, that's hey, look how talented I am.

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Speaker 3: These are the traits that's not sustained quarterback play. What

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Speaker 2: Two of them both were on completions. But that's down

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Speaker 3: I think what we're seeing is actual quarterback development and

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Speaker 2: And I don't feel like we've ever seen someone where

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Speaker 3: Man, look at this sustained quarterback. Like we're just playing

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Speaker 2: This is hey, we can do this actually every week.

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Speaker 2: You can't make that Brown throw every single week. Right,

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Speaker 3: Gonna end up with ten touchdowns, ten I and T. Right,

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Speaker 3: you can't make that throw every week. But if we

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm glad you brought that up. As far as

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Speaker 2: So I think we're finally seeing, oh.

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Speaker 2: There wasn't anything that all of a sudden switched for me.

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Speaker 3: Know, became more rhythmic, and I know that just you know,

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Speaker 3: And it's kind of hard to explain because it's, hey,

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Speaker 3: we didn't have negative runs. We didn't all of a

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Speaker 3: just like he missed on the throw.

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Speaker 2: We didn't have that.

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Speaker 3: And then if you don't have the negatives, of course

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Speaker 2: So to me, it was more or less.

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Speaker 3: Like but think if you were going to write the story.

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Speaker 3: It's like the Broncos offense shot themselves in the foot for.

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Speaker 2: Three quarters and then they came out and.

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Speaker 3: Did probably what they should have been doing the whole game.

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Speaker 3: it's I just feel like we were shooting ourselves in

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Speaker 2: Kind of stopped doing it, and all.

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Speaker 3: Of a sudden you get some positive plays, and I.

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Speaker 2: Do think bo you know, you could say, hey, he

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Speaker 3: That's obvious, right he was, you know, he not a

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Speaker 3: I just think a combination of, hey, we really stopped

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Speaker 2: You beat the reigning world champs.

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Speaker 4: focusing on the quarterbacks footwork and for me from my

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Speaker 4: Every single game has to be somewhat of an improvement

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Speaker 3: I think last year obviously he was probably swimming in

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Speaker 2: This year's starting to get more comfortable with it. I

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Speaker 2: tell you it's the phantom climbs.

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Speaker 3: You know, we've talked about it a couple of times

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Speaker 3: where there's times where it's like the pocket's clean ish, right.

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Speaker 3: The pocket's never perfect, but it's clean ish, right.

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Speaker 2: We can stay in it.

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Speaker 3: And he'll randomly climb up and it's like he almost

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Speaker 2: We don't want to see those.

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Speaker 3: We want to see him navigate the pocket calmly.

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Speaker 2: And I think we saw that more.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, I think we've probably had two phantom

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Speaker 3: climbs this week compared to where it's been you know,

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Speaker 3: up his feet. As he continues on that this offense

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Speaker 2: To get even more efficient. But to me, if he

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Speaker 2: can he can.

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Speaker 3: Navigate the pocket correctly in those phantom climbs, his general

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Speaker 3: I think or dialed in to me, it's now just

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Speaker 3: that next step, which is navigating the pocket appropriately.

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Speaker 2: Tim.

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Speaker 1: A quick question here on our text line, Tim, how

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Speaker 1: do you like our chances in London on a scale

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Speaker 1: of one to Jenkins Elite?

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Speaker 3: I think jacobs Leat's five stars, so four stars. I

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Speaker 3: feel good about it, and you guys know, of course,

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Speaker 3: I wager all my YouTube earnings every week money line.

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Speaker 2: On the Broncos.

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Speaker 3: So I'll be in there with all the fans, whether

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Speaker 3: it's good or bad.

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Speaker 1: Fantastic. Keep up the great work, my friend. Wonderful Stuff

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Speaker 1: is always loved the breakdowns. Everybody loves the breakdowns where

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Speaker 1: we appreciate the time.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you guys, all right.

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