Speaker 1: Six nine in the Queen City of Cincinnati, chick Ludwig,
Speaker 1: seven hundred wl W. This is Sports Talk Shoeless. Joe
Speaker 1: Waddell is tonight's producer. We're going all the way to
Speaker 1: nine fifteen and that means three hours and fifteen minutes
Speaker 1: of fun. But first things first, don't forget to set
Speaker 1: your alarm clocks back for an extra hour of sleep
Speaker 1: tonight as we transition from Daylight Savings time to standard
Speaker 1: time starting at two am on Sunday. And what a
Speaker 1: day it's been, What a week it's been, What a
Speaker 1: night it will be. And there's a lot to sort
Speaker 1: through with every Saturday feeling like a January one football
Speaker 1: Bowl day, and that includes today as our show tonight
Speaker 1: bleeds right into our coverage of the Big twelve Conference
Speaker 1: showdown between the number seventeen you see Bearcats and the
Speaker 1: number twenty four Utah Utes at Rice Echles Stadium in
Speaker 1: Salt Lake City, Utah. Kickoff is ten fifteen tonight, and
Speaker 1: you can hear the game right here on the Big
Speaker 1: One seven hundred WLW. ESPN's College Game Day was at
Speaker 1: Utah this morning and the scene outside Rice Eclels Stadium
Speaker 1: was absolutely insane with the ute meter registering ear splitting
Speaker 1: decibels in preparation for this game. And not only do
Speaker 1: sports fans have UC in Utah football tonight, but we
Speaker 1: have Game seven of the World Series between the visiting
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Dodgers and the Toronto Blue Jays colliding in
Speaker 1: the winner take all game at Toronto's Rogers Center. I'm
Speaker 1: told that the US audience has been hitting the snooze button,
Speaker 1: but in Canada and Japan, viewership has been a global
Speaker 1: success for Major League Baseball and last night's Game six
Speaker 1: was must see TV. It's the Los Angeles Dodgers pulled
Speaker 1: out a three to one victory to tie this series
Speaker 1: up at three games apiece. Game six, Jay's leading the
Speaker 1: series three games to two, but they got to come back,
Speaker 1: or try to from a three to one deficit. Bottom
Speaker 1: of the ninth, Alejandro Kirk, the Blue Jays catcher, gets
Speaker 1: hit by a pitch and pinch runner Miles Straw takes
Speaker 1: his place at first base, no outs. Then Addison bam
Speaker 1: bam Barger hits a line drive in the gap at
Speaker 1: left center. It will score one run, possibly two to
Speaker 1: tie the game, but no, the ball gets caught under
Speaker 1: the outfield wall on the fly. It's a ground rule double.
Speaker 1: Runners are on second and third base, still no outs,
Speaker 1: and then Dodgers manager Dave Roberts, as if he was
Speaker 1: touched on the shoulder by an angel, makes a pitching
Speaker 1: change for the ages. He calls on Tyler glass Now
Speaker 1: to replace Roki Sazaki. Three pitches later, the game is over.
Speaker 1: Ernie Clement pops out to Freddie Freeman on the first pitch,
Speaker 1: one out. Then Andrei's Jim Andez steps to the plate
Speaker 1: and after taking a ball, he hits a low line
Speaker 1: drive to left center. Looked like it was going to
Speaker 1: fall in, but no keyth k Hernandez picks it off
Speaker 1: for out number two and then heads up play. He
Speaker 1: fires to a covering Miguel Rojas at second base. Bam bam.
Speaker 1: Barger was too far off second base. He leaked off
Speaker 1: too far, tried to get back but couldn't double play.
Speaker 1: Game over. Did you watch? I did, Must see TV?
Speaker 1: But it sets up a winner take all Game seven tonight. Wow,
Speaker 1: what a night you see football? In Game seven of
Speaker 1: the World Series. And we'll get into some Bengals conversation
Speaker 1: after we take this break, because tomorrow dare we say
Speaker 1: it a must win game for your Cincinnati Bengals. To
Speaker 1: fall three and six with a loss done, heason over.
Speaker 1: But if they can manage to claw, kick, fights, scratch
Speaker 1: and claw out of victory over the Chicago Bears tomorrow
Speaker 1: to get the four and five at their bye week,
Speaker 1: maybe they're still hope. But what I want to know
Speaker 1: is what did last week's game do to you as
Speaker 1: a fan? It left me and others absolutely numb. And
Speaker 1: that includes the host of sports talk on seven hundred
Speaker 1: WLW during the week, the incomparable Lance McAllister. Hey, if
Speaker 1: you want to dial into the show, it's easy. Five one, three, seven, four, nine,
Speaker 1: seven thousand, one, eight hundred. The big one bottom of
Speaker 1: the hour Bruce Kozerski, Bengals legend. He's going to join
Speaker 1: me tomorrow at Wings and Rings Oakley for Bengals post
Speaker 1: game Sports Talk from five thirty to eight thirty. That's tomorrow,
Speaker 1: and Bruce is going to join us right here on
Speaker 1: the air seven hundred WLW at six thirty five after
Speaker 1: the bottom of the hour news, I want to know,
Speaker 1: did you watch the World Series last night? Game six?
Speaker 1: And what did the Bengals loss do to you? After
Speaker 1: they fell to the New York Jets last Sunday five one, three, seven, four, nine,
Speaker 1: eight hundred The Big One. This is the Chickster, chicklud
Speaker 1: Wig Sports Talk till nine to fifteen tonight on seven
Speaker 1: hundred WLW. Welcome back to sports talk here on seven
Speaker 1: hundred WLW with your host Chick Ludwig. And before we
Speaker 1: go to the phones and we appreciate the callers. With
Speaker 1: Lance McAllister's permission to read his blog post from seven
Speaker 1: hundred WLW dot com and he also posted it on
Speaker 1: his Facebook page. Sunday Cincinnati Bengals lost did something to me.
Speaker 1: It made me wonder if I'm doing this wrong. I
Speaker 1: rode the fast start wave of two to zero. I
Speaker 1: crashed midway through Week two with the devastation of the
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow injury. I got worn watching a four game
Speaker 1: losing street. Following the win over the Steelers, I allowed
Speaker 1: myself to plot a path to a five and four
Speaker 1: record at the bye and start constructing a bridge to
Speaker 1: the potential mid December return of Burrow. Then Sunday happened.
Speaker 1: I felt cuss out loud, angry Sunday night. I asked
Speaker 1: myself why I allow all of this to bother me.
Speaker 1: The team lacks enough talent. It's not a team as
Speaker 1: much as a couple of great players, a handful of
Speaker 1: decent players, a group of just guys, and a smattering
Speaker 1: of never will be's. This team can't tackle the most
Speaker 1: basic of NFL exercises. Words like accountability are thrown around weekly,
Speaker 1: but never applied to anyone above the players. We were
Speaker 1: sold this season under the guys that won. Lou An
Speaker 1: Arumo was the problem, and two the young guys would
Speaker 1: get better, and three the bad luck of a year
Speaker 1: ago would even out this season. The result, they sacrificed
Speaker 1: a good man that has found success in Indianapolis, while
Speaker 1: the defense has been revealed as the worst in the league.
Speaker 1: Year six of Burrow could be the third straight missing
Speaker 1: the playoffs. That doesn't make me sad, it makes me furious.
Speaker 1: The de facto GM operates behind a curtain, leaving the
Speaker 1: coach as the face and explainer of all my talking
Speaker 1: points about Zach the play caller are yellowed, fading, and
Speaker 1: crinkled from so much use. Yes, they've lost five of six,
Speaker 1: but they sit just a game and a half back
Speaker 1: of Pittsburgh in a wide open division. Nine opportunities remain,
Speaker 1: and Joe Flacco has infused optimism into a dire situation.
Speaker 1: And I find hope in seeing Burrow walk the sidelines
Speaker 1: without a protective boot. Come Sunday, I'll be locked in again,
Speaker 1: like all the previous games over fifty plus years. I'll
Speaker 1: talk about them, I'll take your calls about them. But
Speaker 1: when the Bengals lost Sunday, something changed. I wonder if
Speaker 1: it's worth getting upset anymore. Maybe I'm just tired of
Speaker 1: putting in more than I'm getting out with all of this.
Speaker 1: How about you? I was absolutely numb. I was broadcasting
Speaker 1: live Bengals postgame sports talk at the Wings and Rings
Speaker 1: on Beachmont Avenue. I had to leave the Miamisburg war
Speaker 1: Room after the third quarter, and then I'm listening to
Speaker 1: the broadcast, and I just knew you could see it coming.
Speaker 1: With a two point conversion by the Jets coming within
Speaker 1: six and then the Bengals going three and out, you
Speaker 1: could see it coming. Bengals lose thirty nine to thirty eight,
Speaker 1: leaving me numb and Lance McAllister's post on the money,
Speaker 1: Let's go out to the phones. Dennis is in Bellbrook.
Speaker 1: Dennis how are you doing tonight?
Speaker 2: Hey?
Speaker 3: How you doing?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 1: Awesome?
Speaker 3: Brother?
Speaker 4: How are you doing?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 1: Fantastic?
Speaker 5: Hey? The guy who spot on Lance's spot on everything
Speaker 5: took the family out once a year, we'll go to
Speaker 5: the Bengals game, go all out. I dropped a pretty
Speaker 5: good coin on this game. Family of five. My son,
Speaker 5: my nine year old, was devastated. He was crying at
Speaker 5: the end of the game. He's like, Daddy, why don't
Speaker 5: they tackle?
Speaker 4: Why are they letting them go? I'm like, I don't know.
Speaker 5: So it's hardening, man, it's disheartening as a Bengal fan.
Speaker 5: Been doing this stuff for forty fifty years now, it's like,
Speaker 5: you know what's going on here?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 1: And Dennis, what hurt What hurt me most of all
Speaker 1: was the fact that it was the Ring of Honor game.
Speaker 1: Was so many Bengals emagends and alumni back for that game.
Speaker 3: Amen.
Speaker 5: Amen, It's yeah, it's just devastating.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 5: My wife, uh, you know, I got her into the
Speaker 5: Bengals fan thing, and once they scored that two point conversion,
Speaker 5: once they overturned it was a replay, you know, they
Speaker 5: went over. She goes there to lose, and I go
Speaker 5: oh my god, no, please no, And then yeah, my
Speaker 5: family was actually devastated. It was it was not a
Speaker 5: good thing by poor son, God bless him. He was
Speaker 5: his crying nine year old. You know, you're like, why
Speaker 5: aren't they stopping him? Why aren't they you know, why
Speaker 5: aren't they tackling I'm like, oh my god.
Speaker 1: Oh so anyway, hey, thank you so much. All right,
Speaker 1: hey you bet, let's go out to Kevin in Columbus,
Speaker 1: our good friend.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, with or without Burrow. You know, it's it's
Speaker 3: the same basic problem.
Speaker 1: You do.
Speaker 3: You know that, and we must be setting some kind
Speaker 3: of record for scoring thirty points or more and still losing.
Speaker 3: You know, they keep a stat like that, But it
Speaker 3: is that they could have lost the Pittsburgh game the
Speaker 3: same way. They're lucky, and we were hoping they'd pull
Speaker 3: that game Sunday out just left the Pittsburgh game. But
Speaker 3: you know, living like this is it just how can
Speaker 3: you win consistently when you can't stop anyone?
Speaker 1: Even though.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the worst team in the league.
Speaker 1: Yeah, even the Jets. I was happy as an Ohio
Speaker 1: State fan. I was happy for Justin Fields. He got
Speaker 1: ripped apart by the owner, by the owner and then
Speaker 1: the center starting center for the Jets. Josh Myers from
Speaker 1: Miamisburg High School. UH know him personally, uh, Ohio State.
Speaker 3: Star.
Speaker 1: And then four years with the Green Bay Packers. They
Speaker 1: chose not to re sign him, so he's on a
Speaker 1: one year prove it deal and uh, I find myself
Speaker 1: rooting hard for Josh Myers, and uh but Owen seven.
Speaker 1: You know how this league is, Kevin, You know how
Speaker 1: this league is at Owen seven. The league wants that
Speaker 1: team to win. And in a way, you know, stunned.
Speaker 1: I was upset, But at the same time, it's the NFL.
Speaker 1: It's any given Sunday.
Speaker 3: Yep, Hey, can I say one more thing? And you're
Speaker 3: saying this about the Bengals, it's the same with the
Speaker 3: Reds all.
Speaker 6: Season, you know, oh yeah, yo.
Speaker 3: They have hope and they all were crushed and it's
Speaker 3: all back and forth, you know.
Speaker 1: And I wonder if they're not cursed, does it go
Speaker 1: back to the bo Jackson curse?
Speaker 3: Yeah, who knows. But again, I'll be listening Sunday, just
Speaker 3: like when the Reds come around. I'll be you know,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, oh yeah, Oh. I should just do chores
Speaker 3: forget baseball. Forget football, right, But I guess we're addicted, right,
Speaker 3: I'll speak for myself.
Speaker 1: Are yeah, absolutely? Are Yeah? Another day? Yeah, thanks so much, Kevin, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can Rake leaves another day up to Dayton Austin. Hey, Austin,
Speaker 1: what's going on?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 7: That game Sunday was Oh that was a heartbreaker. I
Speaker 7: mean it's just crazy. You know, when a football team
Speaker 7: scores thirty eight points, you know, you would think you're winning.
Speaker 1: You know, well, in the Bengals record prior to last
Speaker 1: season scoring thirty eight points, what fifty four and four
Speaker 1: and now they're like one in three in the last two.
Speaker 7: Years, right, And it's just it's breaks my heart, you know,
Speaker 7: because we have such great generational talent with Jamar Chase,
Speaker 7: Joe Burrow, and I feel like, you know, to an extent,
Speaker 7: it's it's almost like they're just being wasted away. And
Speaker 7: you know, I hope and I you know.
Speaker 3: The day that.
Speaker 7: You know, they leave the Bengals, it's it's gonna hurt
Speaker 7: me a lot, you know, I hope they're around forever.
Speaker 7: But at the same time, like you know, I don't know,
Speaker 7: it's I guess it's the curse of being a Cincinnati fan.
Speaker 1: Right, you're absolutely right. And hey, Joe Burrow, all right,
Speaker 1: he's twenty eight years old, but he gets ready to
Speaker 1: turn twenty nine on December tenth, so he's approaching the
Speaker 1: thirty year old mark.
Speaker 3: You know it?
Speaker 1: Just you want them to win a Super Bowl so
Speaker 1: bad during the Joe Burrow era. And I just hope
Speaker 1: his words were prophetic when he said the windows always
Speaker 1: open as far as uh, as long as he's the quarterback.
Speaker 1: Let's just as Bengals fans, let's hope so right, I agree,
Speaker 1: all right, man Austin, appreciate you. Yep, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: And tomorrow the Chicago Bears Caleb Williams as the quarterback.
Speaker 1: He's a playmaker, he can extend plays. He's dangerous. The
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears are dangerous. What's going to happen if the
Speaker 1: Bears come in here and beat the Bengals tomorrow and
Speaker 1: the Bengals fall to three and six? Do we start
Speaker 1: planning for the draft next year?
Speaker 8: Hey?
Speaker 1: The trade deadline's coming up on Tuesday? Is it time
Speaker 1: to ship out Trey Hendrickson and Logan Wilson, two leaders
Speaker 1: on this defense? Bengals don't make too many in season trades,
Speaker 1: and that will be something to really really watch for
Speaker 1: if they would pull the trigger and pull off a trade.
Speaker 1: All I know is tomorrow is a must win. They've
Speaker 1: got to get to four and five at their bye
Speaker 1: week and then get ready to play oh on the
Speaker 1: road the Pittsburgh Steelers. And oh, by the way, Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson is back for the Baltimore Ravens and that team
Speaker 1: is going to get healthy in a hurry. Hey, have
Speaker 1: we reached the bottom of the hour? News? Bruce Kazerski,
Speaker 1: Bengals legend, joins the Chickster next on seven hundred WLW
Speaker 1: six point thirty eight in the Queens City of Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: Chick Ludwig, seven hundred WLW. We're trying to hook up
Speaker 1: here with Bengals legend Bruce Kazerski, and Bruce is at
Speaker 1: a function tonight at Holy Cross High School in northern Kentucky.
Speaker 1: He said he would step out and talk to us.
Speaker 1: So we're trying to hook up with Bruce here and
Speaker 1: Bruce and I will be co hosting Bengals postgame sports
Speaker 1: talk tomorrow live on seven hundred WLW and Cincinnati's ESPN
Speaker 1: fifteen thirty from Wings and Rings in at Oakley, So
Speaker 1: looking forward to that. But once again Bengals at three
Speaker 1: and five against the Bears four and three. Okay, so
Speaker 1: we're trying to hook up with Bruce and until then, Hey,
Speaker 1: the Bengals, what did last week do to you? It
Speaker 1: absolutely left me numb, you know, following this team since
Speaker 1: its inception in nineteen sixty eight and then twelve years
Speaker 1: on the Bengals beat for the Dayton Daily News, and
Speaker 1: I batted about one AOI won about thirty percent of
Speaker 1: the games when and I was on the beat. So
Speaker 1: tomorrow is very, very important and a handful of guys
Speaker 1: who are going to play a key role in this
Speaker 1: game tomorrow. With starter DeAndre Swift out for the Chicago Bears,
Speaker 1: the running back Kyle Menoinge is is going to be huge.
Speaker 1: Can the Bengals tackle him? The tackling is like the
Speaker 1: worst part of this defense. And it was a touchdown
Speaker 1: run last week by the Jets where the running back
Speaker 1: goes over the left side of the line and the
Speaker 1: Bengals had overloaded the other side, and you could see
Speaker 1: it as plain as day as the play was developing.
Speaker 1: I'm there, get those guys over on the other side. Touchdown.
Speaker 1: Incredible and it just hurt the way the Bengals melted
Speaker 1: down in the fourth quarter twenty three points. Well, hey,
Speaker 1: we've hooked up here with with Bruce Kazerski. Bruce, thanks
Speaker 1: so much, thank you for your patience and great to
Speaker 1: have you back on seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 9: Chick let's look get it, let's get it on again.
Speaker 9: Another another opportunity here. I'm going to be very positive
Speaker 9: right now. Yes, very positive. I think we got we
Speaker 9: can really do this this weekend.
Speaker 1: Fantastic And Bruce, tell the listeners where you are. I
Speaker 1: know you're in a fundraiser for a very important important
Speaker 1: role tonight.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm run.
Speaker 9: A sports FLIC fundraiser for Holy Cross High School in Coverington.
Speaker 9: I'm sitting just opposite the gymnasium in my classroom where
Speaker 9: I teach physics and calculus.
Speaker 4: And I pulled away for a few minutes to handle
Speaker 4: the chickster.
Speaker 1: That's fantastic. And Bruce, you're teaching the high powered physics
Speaker 1: uh in math man, it's uh. I go back to
Speaker 1: what John Kittn has said, being a math major at
Speaker 1: Eastern Washington helped him as a quarterback with all the
Speaker 1: angles and everything. Did it help you as an offensive lineman?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 9: It was incredible. The logic, the logic of math and
Speaker 9: science has helped me every everywhere I went, you know,
Speaker 9: in the NFL playing center, and you you know, our
Speaker 9: our partner Dave Lapan can tell us, can tell you
Speaker 9: the same thing. You've got to be smart, and you
Speaker 9: got to be intuitive. You got to know what's coming.
Speaker 9: And the only way to do that is to be educated.
Speaker 4: Uh. And and that's that's why I made it.
Speaker 9: I'm from a small college in Worcester, Massachusett, Holy Cross
Speaker 9: College in Worstern, Massachusetts. And I made it because I
Speaker 9: was smart, could handle the playbook and handle all the
Speaker 9: adjustments and get the word out both right and left.
Speaker 9: And and I'm very proud of that fact.
Speaker 1: When I when I substitute teach in either math or science,
Speaker 1: and I'm more of a language arts guy, of course,
Speaker 1: and history. I say science is everywhere, and I say
Speaker 1: it in math too, Math is everywhere. So and it's
Speaker 1: so true, it's so true.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 9: And the kids, the kids wonder when they're going to
Speaker 9: use this stuff, right, They have no idea that everything
Speaker 9: everything they do in life.
Speaker 4: Involves some type of.
Speaker 9: Math and science and the common sense of either one.
Speaker 1: Well, math teachers want, uh, you know, not just the
Speaker 1: correct answer, but all the steps that get you there.
Speaker 1: And I tell them, you're going to run into problems,
Speaker 1: you know, in life, and you've got to go about
Speaker 1: them systematically to get the answer. It's that same.
Speaker 9: Maybe one of the most maybe one of the most
Speaker 9: important parts about both of these subjects is is the
Speaker 9: the order of operations and the logic, the ability to
Speaker 9: analyze the situation and then create or synthesize the solution.
Speaker 4: That will do the job.
Speaker 9: You know, it may not be the best solution, but
Speaker 9: but there might be many good solutions, and all would
Speaker 9: did do is sympthesize one that works. And that's where
Speaker 9: we are. Physics is the study of common sense.
Speaker 4: That's what I mador in college.
Speaker 1: Fantastic stuff. You're Bruce, And I asked fans out there,
Speaker 1: what did last Sunday's loss due to them? I know
Speaker 1: it left me numb, It left Lance McAllister Gosha cussing
Speaker 1: out loud, angry, and what did it do to you?
Speaker 1: And what was so upsetting for me was the fact
Speaker 1: that so many Bengals alumni were there to honor Dave
Speaker 1: Lapham and leaping Lamar Parrish for the Ring of Honor,
Speaker 1: and uh, gosh that it just killed me to see that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, the wins in this league are so hard to
Speaker 9: come by, and as we found out, even with Joe
Speaker 9: Burrow at quarterback, when you lose the first three games,
Speaker 9: it's very difficult to get back into the race. You're
Speaker 9: trailing the entire league, not only your conference. We got
Speaker 9: off to a two and oh Star lost four.
Speaker 4: Or five in a row.
Speaker 9: Flacco came in and and and beat Pittsburgh in fantastic
Speaker 9: fashion with outstanding got Uh. Uh a great. I had
Speaker 9: played great last week, a lot of points on the board.
Speaker 9: Defense couldn't good, couldn't win.
Speaker 4: And that's that's.
Speaker 9: Almost what's been happening in all seasons, the defense as
Speaker 9: badly as the offense has played. Uh that you didn't
Speaker 9: recognize how poor the defense had played.
Speaker 4: And and I'm.
Speaker 9: Glad they had this defense player all player only meeting
Speaker 9: this week.
Speaker 4: I think they needed. They needed to.
Speaker 9: Clear their heads and and uh, you know, figure out
Speaker 9: who's the front runner and who the real players are,
Speaker 9: because that's what the Steve needs right now.
Speaker 4: They need leadership, and they.
Speaker 9: He's someone who's gonna get the job done when it's tough.
Speaker 9: It's not always easy, and there's a turning point in
Speaker 9: this league where you're seeing either goes up and you
Speaker 9: get on a roll, or it goes down and you're
Speaker 9: you're waiting for for the for the postseason to start
Speaker 9: with somebody else in it because you you've lost too
Speaker 9: many games. Last week was a game they should have won.
Speaker 9: They had it won, they couldn't pull it off, and
Speaker 9: now they're behind the eight ball. They had a chance
Speaker 9: to get right back into the to the North race
Speaker 9: a game behind Pittsburgh a half game back because they
Speaker 9: beat him and they laid the golden egg.
Speaker 1: And it looks like the running game which has come
Speaker 1: to life these last two games. That is one huge positive.
Speaker 1: And isn't the running game the best friend of a quarterback.
Speaker 9: It's always been to me the most integral part, you know.
Speaker 9: And and I love Joe. I think he can take
Speaker 9: this team to a world championship, but he has to
Speaker 9: understand that the NFL is a league that has to
Speaker 9: have passing, it has to have running. You have to
Speaker 9: be able to run the ball and then it gives
Speaker 9: you more time in the pocket. You can do all
Speaker 9: kind of play action stuff. It's amazing the success you
Speaker 9: can have when you can run the ball. In the
Speaker 9: last two weeks under Flaca, you've seen the Bengals run
Speaker 9: the ball and the benefit he doesn't get all kinds
Speaker 9: of blitzes and stunts and and twists because they're just
Speaker 9: rushing to an X in the backfield and and and
Speaker 9: and tackling a spot. You know that the quarterback is
Speaker 9: getting rid of the ball quick because he has time.
Speaker 4: Sometimes he has time to.
Speaker 9: Actually throw the ball down the field, like he hits
Speaker 9: the Higgins last week. And so you've got to be
Speaker 9: able to run the ball in this league if you
Speaker 9: want to be a winner.
Speaker 1: And Scott Peters, the offensive line coach, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: taken a while, but it looks like the offensive line
Speaker 1: is is coming around, and man, they just it's got
Speaker 1: to be complimented with a solid defense. And it's just
Speaker 1: been a struggle.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's been that's been. Another part of this is
Speaker 9: the the uncomplimentary parts of the football team. A couple
Speaker 9: of weeks they played good offense, defense, special teams, cut
Speaker 9: kick the ball into the end zone every day. Pun
Speaker 9: of the ball into the end zone every time. Then
Speaker 9: then and when you can at least afford the defense
Speaker 9: to give up the big play, then when you can
Speaker 9: at least afford it, you know, we turn the ball
Speaker 9: over and it's it's just not complimentary.
Speaker 4: But I'm being positive here.
Speaker 1: I checked, yes, I.
Speaker 4: Believe this is this is the week where they.
Speaker 9: Turn it all around, all three phases, get it together,
Speaker 9: and they play their guts out.
Speaker 4: At this point, their backs the wall.
Speaker 9: They cannot lose another game to the Jets and the
Speaker 9: Bears and expect to compete in this league, even though
Speaker 9: they have a bye week, because that bye week it's
Speaker 9: only a week. But if you lose these two going
Speaker 9: into that bye week, it'll seem like a month.
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right about that, Bruce Kazerski. And to get
Speaker 1: to four and five at the bye and then you
Speaker 1: come out and hey, you go to you go to
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and there's still time, there's there's hope. But three
Speaker 1: and six, three games under five hundred, man, that's an
Speaker 1: absolute killer.
Speaker 9: Well, the problem with losing games you shouldn't lose is
Speaker 9: that someone in your league, someone in your conference, is
Speaker 9: pulling away from you. Now Baltimore is getting getting hot
Speaker 9: again Jackson's back, and they're gonna they're gonna start to compete,
Speaker 9: you know. So it could be a could be a
Speaker 9: three team race if we play well enough to compete.
Speaker 9: If if we lose games we're not supposed to lose,
Speaker 9: then we're just gonna fall to the wayside, like we
Speaker 9: we we know we can. And and Cincinnati deserves it.
Speaker 9: They deserved this winning team. Uh, Joe Flock was busted
Speaker 9: his butt. The offense played well.
Speaker 4: Enough to win. Defense should step it up this week.
Speaker 4: And I think they know that. I trust that they
Speaker 4: know that.
Speaker 1: And protecting your home so faive, yeah, and protecting your
Speaker 1: home field. Man, you got to win at home. And
Speaker 1: to lose that home game to the Jets just uh,
Speaker 1: but yeah, you're right, Bruce. Let's stay positive and bring
Speaker 1: some fans out to the wings and rings.
Speaker 9: Total busted experience, A total busted experience with the Ring
Speaker 9: of Honor induction. Two great players and and uh they
Speaker 9: have a big league at the end, you know.
Speaker 4: And and to lay.
Speaker 9: The egg down the stretch of the fourth quarter. And
Speaker 9: as well as the offensive player you harped on this
Speaker 9: at the in the post game last year last week
Speaker 9: is as well as the offense played when the defense
Speaker 9: was struggling. At the end, they couldn't get a first down,
Speaker 9: maybe one first down and the game is over. But
Speaker 9: you can't put that game on the offense.
Speaker 1: And I was traveled, you were traveling by the You know,
Speaker 1: you leave your seat with a lead and by the
Speaker 1: time you get to your car, they're, uh, they're trailing.
Speaker 9: I left my seat with a fourteen point lead with
Speaker 9: ten and ten mins thirty seconds remaining of the game.
Speaker 9: By time I got to my my truck, they were
Speaker 9: losing by one.
Speaker 6: I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1: Unbelievable.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I heard the stadium, heard the stadium grown,
Speaker 9: and then I heard it roar, and then I heard
Speaker 9: them grown again.
Speaker 1: You know, now, Bruce, are you now? Are you a
Speaker 1: baseball fan? Also? Are you paying attention to the World Series?
Speaker 9: I love baseball, but I'm really a Reds fan, and
Speaker 9: they've been out of her for a while. This game
Speaker 9: is irrelevant to me. Although I'd like the US team
Speaker 9: to win, I like a team for our country to win.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 9: But Toronto's playing great baseball and and uh, I certainly
Speaker 9: hope it's a great game, and I don't want it
Speaker 9: to be another eighteen ing TASCAR like they had in
Speaker 9: that one game. But yes, certainly a nice clean, a
Speaker 9: nice clean maybe a ninth inning walk off or something
Speaker 9: close to the end would be exciting.
Speaker 1: That'd be awesome. Well, the Cincinnati Reds were the last
Speaker 1: National League team to go back to back in seventy
Speaker 1: five and seventy six. I don't want the Dodgers to
Speaker 1: do it last year and this year, so I'm rooting
Speaker 1: for the Blue Jays.
Speaker 9: But man, yeah, and start to finish and start to
Speaker 9: finish in nineteen.
Speaker 1: Ninety Yes, yeh, that's exactly right. Wire to wire, Bruce,
Speaker 1: thanks so much for taking time out from your fundraiser
Speaker 1: tonight at holy Cross High School. Man, great stuff. Appreciate you,
Speaker 1: Nanks shiit.
Speaker 4: We'll see you tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Take care. That's Bruce Kazerski, Bengals legend offensive lineman center
Speaker 1: guard on the nineteen eighty eight Super Bowl team, and
Speaker 1: all those dudes Munhos Lapham, Kazerski and others were in
Speaker 1: Canton in June to support the offensive line guru, the
Speaker 1: one and Only Mouse, Jim Mouse McNally. Hey, you're listening
Speaker 1: to sports talk on seven hundred WLW Moore. After this
Speaker 1: break three minutes before the top of the hour news.
Speaker 1: This is Chick Ludwig Sports Talk on seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 1: We're getting ready for UC and Utah tonight. Band can't wait.
Speaker 1: The seventeenth ranked Bearcats against the twenty fourth ranked Utah Utes.
Speaker 1: ESPN College Game Day was in Salt Lake City today.
Speaker 1: Banned Place was absolutely going insane and you see at
Speaker 1: seven and one, shooting for its eighth straight victory. U
Speaker 1: see and BYU are a top the Big twelve standings
Speaker 1: five to zero. And then there's thirteenth ranked Texas Tech
Speaker 1: with a thirty six to twenty lead over Kansas State
Speaker 1: with a four to twenty eight to play in that
Speaker 1: game in Manhattan, Kansas. So lurking behind b YU and
Speaker 1: U see the Texas Tech Red Raiders and want to
Speaker 1: update you on some college football scores here. With three
Speaker 1: minutes left. In Gainesville, the Georgia Bulldogs have a twenty
Speaker 1: four to twenty lead over the Florida Gators. Fifth ranked
Speaker 1: Georgia twenty four to twenty. Number twelve Notre Dame is
Speaker 1: a twenty five to ten lead over Boston College. They're
Speaker 1: putting the finishing touches on that. In the closing seconds.
Speaker 1: Like I just mentioned, Texas Tech thirty six to twenty
Speaker 1: lead over Kansas State with five minutes and twenty seconds
Speaker 1: to go. Fifteenth ranked Virginia. The Cavaliers have a twenty
Speaker 1: four to twenty one lead over the cow Bears out
Speaker 1: in Berkeley, California Finals. Today, Indiana crushes Maryland on the road,
Speaker 1: the number two ranked Hoosiers fifty five to ten all
Speaker 1: over the Maryland Terrapins. The number one Ohio State Buckeyes
Speaker 1: at home, Ohio Stadium, thirty eight to fourteen winners over
Speaker 1: Penn State, Texas Man holding off Vanderbilt for a thirty
Speaker 1: four to thirty one victory. Van Dey scored twenty one
Speaker 1: points in the fourth quarter and SMU Final in overtime
Speaker 1: twenty six to twenty over the tenth ranked Miami Hurricanes.
Speaker 1: Louisville ranked sixteenth, twenty eight to sixteen winners at Virginia Tech,
Speaker 1: and West Virginia defeats number twenty two Houston in Houston,
Speaker 1: forty five to forty five to thirty five. West Virginia.
Speaker 1: When we come back, we're going to go up to Dayton,
Speaker 1: Ohio and welcome in Hall of Fame. Baseball writer Hal
Speaker 1: McCoy to talk World Series and Reds when we come back.
Speaker 1: This is the home of the Reds and the best
Speaker 1: Bengals coverage. Seven hundred WLW seven nine in the quaint
Speaker 1: city of Cincinnati, chick Ludwigs, seven hundred W l W.
Speaker 1: This is sports talk. Joe Waddell is tonight's producer. We're
Speaker 1: going all the way to nine fifteen and that means
Speaker 1: three hours and fifteen minutes of fun. And my next guest.
Speaker 1: I had the honor, pleasure and privilege of working with
Speaker 1: him for thirty years at the Dayton Daily News. He's
Speaker 1: in Cooperstown as a Hall of Fame baseball writer and
Speaker 1: to paraphrase bum Phillips, he may not be the greatest
Speaker 1: baseball rider in history, but it's sure don't take long
Speaker 1: to call roll. Welcome to seven hundred WLW once again,
Speaker 1: Hal McCoy, how are you how?
Speaker 6: I'm doing great? Check and I hope you are too.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And is there anything more exciting than Game seven?
Speaker 6: That's the best thing in sports, you know. I was
Speaker 6: hoping that the Blue Jays would end it in six
Speaker 6: because I do not want to see the Dodgers win it.
Speaker 6: But Game seven is just the ultimate in sports, winner
Speaker 6: take all, do or die all on the line. And
Speaker 6: what about last night Game six, Must see TV? Absolutely unbelievable.
Speaker 6: The Dodgers win three to one to force a Game seven,
Speaker 6: and the way they did it just unbelievable. It was
Speaker 6: like Dave Roberts, the manager of the Los Angeles Dodgers,
Speaker 6: an angel touched him on the shoulder and said, put
Speaker 6: in Tyler Glasgow Glass now, who makes three pitches and
Speaker 6: gets three outs. Yeah, unbelievable. And he's supposed to start
Speaker 6: to Game seven. But what a finish to that game.
Speaker 6: I have never seen any game, let alone a World
Speaker 6: Series game end up on a double play started by
Speaker 6: an outfielder. I mean the Blue Jays head Runners on
Speaker 6: a second and third nobody out. I thought they're gonna
Speaker 6: at least tie this game. And then first of all,
Speaker 6: the ball gets stuck under the wall that keeps him
Speaker 6: from scoring around ground road double and then the line
Speaker 6: drive to left field and keep her Nanus doubles him
Speaker 6: off second base to end the game. Just unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tyler Glass now replaces Roki Sizaki, and three pitches later,
Speaker 1: the game's over. Ernie Klement pops out to Freddie Freeman
Speaker 1: on the first pitch. Then Andre's jim Andez steps to
Speaker 1: the plate after taking a ball, he hits that low
Speaker 1: line drive to left center Keith Gay Hernandez picks it
Speaker 1: off and then he has the wherewithal gosh the fire
Speaker 1: to a covering Miguel Rojas at second base. Bam bam
Speaker 1: Barger with that double in the ball on a fly
Speaker 1: hits underneath the wall. Incredible. He leaks too far off
Speaker 1: second base, tried to get back double play game over
Speaker 1: three pitches by glass. Now you're right, Hall, I've never
Speaker 1: seen anything, never seen anything.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Key, Key was so alert. I mean he cuts
Speaker 6: that ball on the fly and in one motion, in
Speaker 6: an instant, he throws a double bouncer to second base
Speaker 6: to double the runner off. I've never seen anything like it.
Speaker 6: But if you cover baseball long enough, they say every
Speaker 6: week you see something you've never seen before.
Speaker 1: That's exactly right, almost on a daily basis, if you
Speaker 1: go to the ballpark, just incredible, and that brings us
Speaker 1: how to You know, as I'm watching the World Series,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of the Cincinnati Reds and man, this is
Speaker 1: how good you have to be to be one of
Speaker 1: the final two teams standing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was very nice and exciting for the Reds
Speaker 6: to make it to the playoffs, but you know they
Speaker 6: were the last wild card team and then happen to
Speaker 6: play the Dodgers, and you were pretty sure that that
Speaker 6: was as far as they were going to go, because
Speaker 6: the Dodgers have it all, I mean, all the MVPs
Speaker 6: they have on that team, all the money they've spent.
Speaker 6: They are where they should.
Speaker 1: Be and just looking at gosh, potential free agents here
Speaker 1: or guys that will become free agents once the World
Speaker 1: Series is over. We're looking at Miguel Andrew Harr and
Speaker 1: then the pitchers a Zach Lyttel, Nick Martinez and Emilio
Speaker 1: put Gone along with Wade Miley. And there's just a
Speaker 1: lot of tough decisions facing the Cincinnati Reds here because
Speaker 1: they need hitting and they've got some pitching.
Speaker 6: Yes, absolutely, it would not be surprising to me if
Speaker 6: they might dangle Hunter Green out there to or get
Speaker 6: two or three good prospects. You've gotta love Hunter Green,
Speaker 6: but he's susceptible to injuries that looks like and you
Speaker 6: don't know if that's going to continue throughout his career.
Speaker 6: But he could bring a pretty good haul. But yeah,
Speaker 6: you're absolutely right. They have a lot of decisions to make,
Speaker 6: and one of them that I keep harping on is
Speaker 6: I think they they just got to move Eli Dela
Speaker 6: Cruz to center field. It just makes too much sense.
Speaker 6: We all know that he leads the league at errors
Speaker 6: the last two years at shortstop. I think he would
Speaker 6: make a fantastic center fielder with his arm, with his speed,
Speaker 6: his arm wouldn't be as erratic at centerfield as it is.
Speaker 6: It's a shortstop, and he got a shortstop coming up,
Speaker 6: and then Edwin Arroyo, who is very, very good, and
Speaker 6: I think he was fit nicely in at shortstop. But
Speaker 6: the only time in my career that the Reds ever
Speaker 6: asked my opinion of anything was in nineteen ninety when
Speaker 6: lou Penella took over the team and he asked me
Speaker 6: what the team needed, and I said it needed a
Speaker 6: lead off hitter, and I thought, very lark it would
Speaker 6: be a good choice, and that's what he did, and
Speaker 6: he thanked me after the season, but I didn't get
Speaker 6: a share of the World Series money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh that is awesome, and yeah, think of the
Speaker 1: ground he can cover out in center field, of his length,
Speaker 1: his reach, his speed, and it might take some pressure
Speaker 1: off of him at the plate exactly.
Speaker 6: I said it was going to be the next thing
Speaker 6: right out of my mouth. We've been together too long, Hick.
Speaker 6: I was going to say, absolutely, there's less less pressure
Speaker 6: playing centerfield than this playing shortstop, and that would I
Speaker 6: think it would help his off mentally and take his
Speaker 6: mind off a few things.
Speaker 4: I agree.
Speaker 1: And just looking at players with club options, man Austin Hayes,
Speaker 1: I mean that's a that's a pretty penny there at
Speaker 1: twelve million mutual option, one million dollar buyout, Bran Suiters
Speaker 1: out there at three million or a two hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars buyout, Scott Barlow six and a half
Speaker 1: million option or a one million dollar buyout. So and
Speaker 1: then a ton of guys you know, eligible for arbitration.
Speaker 1: So yeah, man Nick, Yeah, Crawl and his yea yeah.
Speaker 1: And as lieutenants have a lot of work to do here,
Speaker 1: Yes they do.
Speaker 6: It's going to be very interesting to see because, as
Speaker 6: you mentioned, about about half the roster needs to have
Speaker 6: some decisions made, so it's going to be interesting to
Speaker 6: see which way they go. Like I say, they just
Speaker 6: have a lot of things out there to think about.
Speaker 1: And another thing we have in common. We love Chavez
Speaker 1: Ravine Dodger Stadium. But the Reds were the last Nation
Speaker 1: League team to go back to back. How we don't
Speaker 1: want the Dodgers to do it.
Speaker 6: No, we don't their last team in the National League
Speaker 6: to go back to back. Horse the Yankees have done
Speaker 6: in the American League. But yeah, you and I were
Speaker 6: part of that when the Rents went out there in
Speaker 6: nineteen ninety and seventy five and seventy six. They went
Speaker 6: back to back, last National League team to do it.
Speaker 6: Just another reason that I'm rooting against the Dodgers tonight.
Speaker 6: And let's hope that Max Scherzer's got it. You know,
Speaker 6: he's played on four World Series teams and he has
Speaker 6: started one other game seven so forty years old, but
Speaker 6: he's got a lot of moxie. And the Dodgers pitching,
Speaker 6: I know they're going to see a lot of guys tonight,
Speaker 6: including shohe Otani, who plays in a higher league than
Speaker 6: the major leagues. But it should be interesting to see
Speaker 6: if Sures can hold him down.
Speaker 1: Now, I know on your Facebook page and the writing
Speaker 1: is still as crisp and as great as ever, Hal,
Speaker 1: And you mentioned a guy that reaches base nine times,
Speaker 1: what five intentional walks? You know, a little bit cowardly,
Speaker 1: Hey man, up, Yes see, if you can't get this
Speaker 1: cat owl.
Speaker 6: That's right, that's I would like to see him do
Speaker 6: something about intentional logs because he can't do it, because
Speaker 6: they'll still find a way to walk a guy if
Speaker 6: they want to. But you know, the guy is a superstar,
Speaker 6: but he doesn't He doesn't hit a home run or
Speaker 6: get a base at every time. Up just really kind
Speaker 6: of made me think not so nicely of the Blue
Speaker 6: Jays for walking him four times in one game.
Speaker 1: And it's hard to believe Hal McCoy that nineteen ninety five,
Speaker 1: we were at Chavez Ravine and it was the last
Speaker 1: series the Reds have the Reds of one and then
Speaker 1: and then Atlanta happened. Yeah, and then Atlanta happened.
Speaker 6: Yes, Atlanta happened. Got the general manager Jim uh what
Speaker 6: was his name at the.
Speaker 10: Time, Jim Jim Bowden Jim Bowden, Yeah, or as Marty
Speaker 10: calls him, all the leather Pants had the great idea
Speaker 10: that they should start all left handers against the Braves.
Speaker 6: It's the braves were susceptible against left handers. Well it
Speaker 6: didn't work. They got blown out, but it wasn't nice.
Speaker 6: You and I were in Chevez Ravine. That's it's my
Speaker 6: favorite ballpark. I mean, it's the third oldest, but they
Speaker 6: keep that place so clean you can eat off the floors.
Speaker 6: It's just unbelievable. But yeah, we were there with the
Speaker 6: manager Davey Johnson, and uh, they won the game out there,
Speaker 6: and but disaster in Atlanta and that's the last time
Speaker 6: that they have won a postseason series.
Speaker 1: It really is incredible. And hol just a career. And
Speaker 1: you recently had a birthday? And is it eighty three
Speaker 1: or eighty five? Eighty five? Eighty five?
Speaker 4: Wow?
Speaker 6: Eighty five eighty five and counting?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And what keeps you going?
Speaker 8: How?
Speaker 6: Just life itself? I try to write every day. I
Speaker 6: love to write. If I couldn't write, I don't know
Speaker 6: what I would do. I would be flipping burgers or something.
Speaker 6: But that's been my life. And as long as I
Speaker 6: can sit down, it's the it's the computer, the laptop
Speaker 6: and buzz out a few words. I'm happy. I try
Speaker 6: to do it every day and that keeps me going.
Speaker 6: Eighty five but I don't feel like you're over eighty four.
Speaker 1: That's just wonderful, how and I absolutely mean it. It
Speaker 1: doesn't take long to call roll for for the baseball
Speaker 1: writers and Hal McCoy in Cooperstown.
Speaker 6: Man, I appreciate that, Chris, Urus appreciate that, Chick, and
Speaker 6: you know, we've been friends for a long time and
Speaker 6: we were working buddies. And you are a very talented
Speaker 6: guy yourself and do a great job on the radio
Speaker 6: and a multi talented person. That's what I like.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much, Hal, and hey, appreciate it.
Speaker 1: All the best in Nadine and yourself.
Speaker 6: Stay well, sir, Thanks Chicken, Thanks thanks for having me on, buddy,
Speaker 6: take care of yourself.
Speaker 1: You are so welcome to enjoy Game seven tonight. Wow,
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be fun getting me ready?
Speaker 4: You bet?
Speaker 6: Yes? Yes?
Speaker 1: Thanks Hal? All right?
Speaker 6: Thanks?
Speaker 1: Hey, do you have a thought about Game seven tonight?
Speaker 1: Who are you rooting for? I've got my coffee, I've
Speaker 1: got my computer. All I need is you and it's
Speaker 1: more coffee tonight because there's no water in our building
Speaker 1: this weekend. So man, a lot of java on seven
Speaker 1: hundred WLW seven, City of Cincinnati, Chick Ludwig seven hundred
Speaker 1: WLW Sports Talk till nine to fifteen tonight, and then
Speaker 1: Dan Horde, Tony Pike, and Moeger take over these airwaves
Speaker 1: for the University of Cincinnati against the U tall Utes
Speaker 1: tonight in a monster Big Twelve game, as the UC
Speaker 1: Bearcats attempt to push their record to eight and one
Speaker 1: with their eighth straight victory, and push their Big Twelve
Speaker 1: record to six and zero and staying atop the Big
Speaker 1: Twelve standings and keep Texas Tech at five and one,
Speaker 1: ranked thirteenth in the nation. Give them the old Heisman
Speaker 1: Troop Trophy stiff arm. But there's BYU there too, and
Speaker 1: you see host BYU later this season. The tenth rank
Speaker 1: Cougar's man it the Big Twelve is shaping up to
Speaker 1: be an awesome for an awesome finish this year. But
Speaker 1: we mentioned the Reds and appreciate how McCoy joining us,
Speaker 1: and I mentioned the free agents Miguel Andrew harr Pitchers,
Speaker 1: Zach Lttel, Nick Martinez, Emilio Pagan, Wade Miley. And then
Speaker 1: you've got players with options Austin Hayes twelve million dollar
Speaker 1: option but a one million dollar buyout Brent Souter, left
Speaker 1: handed pitcher we love him, Cincinnati guy a three million
Speaker 1: dollar club option a two hundred and fifty thousand dollars buyout,
Speaker 1: and then right handed pitcher Scott Barlow with a club
Speaker 1: option for six point five million dollars or a one
Speaker 1: million dollar buyout, all with contract options. And then there's
Speaker 1: the folks who are eligible for arbitration. Right handed pitcher
Speaker 1: Graham Ashcraft, outfielder Will Benson, infielder outfielder Santiago espinall who
Speaker 1: got outrighted to Louisville. Outfielder TJ. Friedel, left handed pitcher
Speaker 1: Nick Lidolo, infielder outfielder Gavin Lux, second baseman Matt McClain,
Speaker 1: lefty Sam Mall writing, Tony Santition writing, Brady Singer, Spencer Steer,
Speaker 1: and catcher Tyler Stevenson. So wow uh A lot going
Speaker 1: on with the Reds, and Nick Krawl says, We've got
Speaker 1: to improve both aspects of our position players. I think
Speaker 1: we need to improve across the board. Offensively, we had
Speaker 1: guys that had down years. Some of it's going to
Speaker 1: be internal, some of it might be bringing somebody in
Speaker 1: from the outside. We did a good job with defensive efficiency,
Speaker 1: but our defensive range and everything could be better across
Speaker 1: the board. And with closer Emelio Pegan and the swingman there,
Speaker 1: Nick Martinez being free agents, replacing them in the bullpen
Speaker 1: has got to be a priority. And then who might
Speaker 1: the Reds be willing to trade? Like Hal mentioned, the
Speaker 1: big chip is Hunter Green. He has three years and
Speaker 1: about forty two million left on a six year contract
Speaker 1: through twenty twenty eight, with a club option for twenty nine.
Speaker 1: Green could net the best return for the Cincinnati Reds
Speaker 1: to fill its needs elsewhere? Is it okay if I dream,
Speaker 1: just a little bit, dream of Kyle Schwarber in a
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Reds uniform. Middletown High School, Indiana University, played for
Speaker 1: the Chicago Cubs, Washington Nationals, the Red Sox, and now
Speaker 1: at the Phillies. His four year, seventy nine million dollar
Speaker 1: contract runs out, he becomes a free agent. The Reds
Speaker 1: could use that twenty one million that they paid Nick
Speaker 1: Martinez last year for some starting money in an attempt
Speaker 1: to get Kyle Schwarber here. With his signing set this
Speaker 1: franchise in this city on its ear with excitement. I think,
Speaker 1: so we've reached the bottom of the hour break when
Speaker 1: we come back, Journalist, broadcaster, author, all around great guy.
Speaker 1: Terrence Moore from Atlanta is next. This is Chick Ludwig
Speaker 1: Sports Talk seven hundred WLW seven eight in the Queen
Speaker 1: City of Cincinnati. This is Chick Ludwig and it's sports Talk.
Speaker 1: My next guest is a media superstar, journalist, broadcaster, author,
Speaker 1: digital creator from the Cincinnati Choir to San Francisco to
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Journal Constitution. His writing is absolutely brilliant and
Speaker 1: it all started in Oxford at Miami University. We welcome
Speaker 1: in from Atlanta our good friend Terrence More. Terrence, how
Speaker 1: are you sir?
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, Chick, I want to hire you
Speaker 3: as my PR guy. But even though you didn't go
Speaker 3: to the great Miami, Ohio, but yeah, you're a great
Speaker 3: You're great anyway.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much. And when you hear the
Speaker 1: ads for Miami University where today's students become tomorrow's leaders,
Speaker 1: I'll bet you've got a big smile on your face.
Speaker 3: Oh, no question about it, you know. And for people
Speaker 3: out there who don't know, besides the credof coaches, there
Speaker 3: are more ceo of fortune, five hundred companies with Miami,
Speaker 3: Ohio undergraduate degrees than any other college. And I can
Speaker 3: go on and on and on, but I won't.
Speaker 4: I won't.
Speaker 1: Well, it was awesome having you really back in Ohio,
Speaker 1: back in Southwest Ohio for a book signing, and just
Speaker 1: love your work here from Redbrickmagic dot com to the
Speaker 1: real hankeron dot com and now recently hear my Big
Speaker 1: Redmachine dot com. Terrence, Can you talk about your Big
Speaker 1: Red Machine?
Speaker 3: Yeah? You know, you know this thing is it's a
Speaker 3: miracle in so many ways of writing this book, and
Speaker 3: I always tell people I get chills talking about it,
Speaker 3: and I get chills just thinking about everything I went through.
Speaker 3: But essentially it's about my journey from being a diehard
Speaker 3: Big Red Machine fan to finally meeting my heroes and
Speaker 3: chick I know you've gone through the same thing being
Speaker 3: an Ohio guy. Is that you know a lot of
Speaker 3: times it doesn't measure up to what you expected.
Speaker 4: For me, for the most.
Speaker 3: Part, it did, and it all began and ended with
Speaker 3: Pete Rose, a long time favorite player. The one thing
Speaker 3: I will say this real quick too, is I grew
Speaker 3: up in South in Indiana as a young guy. You know,
Speaker 3: Pump and the University of Notre Dame, and my dad
Speaker 3: was an AT ANDT supervisor who got transferred to Cincinnati
Speaker 3: in sixty eight. And I bring that up because there's
Speaker 3: no such thing as coincidence. In my world. Everything is spiritual.
Speaker 3: The next year of sixty nine, that was the first
Speaker 3: official year of the Big Reversine, So Chick, I always
Speaker 3: tell people the Big Reversine started because my family came
Speaker 3: here from Indiana. I think where it was.
Speaker 1: That is fantastic and gosh, one of the highlights of
Speaker 1: my career. Four months to the day prior to Pete
Speaker 1: Rose's death, I'm invited back to Western Hills Country Club
Speaker 1: is the MC of their stag honoring Pete, and I
Speaker 1: got to introduce him, and then we sat on a
Speaker 1: stage together and I guided him through a fifty four
Speaker 1: photolide show of his life. And what an evening. What
Speaker 1: an evening with Pete?
Speaker 3: Well, you know you and I saw a different side
Speaker 3: of Pete. I have got nothing bad to say about
Speaker 3: Pete Rose. He was so good to me. As a
Speaker 3: matter of fact, Just to tell you how these things
Speaker 3: work as far as spiritually as I look at it.
Speaker 3: I graduated from Miami University in May of nineteen seventy eight.
Speaker 3: A week later, I'm working full time at since An
Speaker 3: Enquirer And the very first interview I ever did in
Speaker 3: my entire life as a professional sports journalist that now
Speaker 3: has spanned to almost fifty years was with Pete Rose,
Speaker 3: the all time favorite player. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 3: a feo months after that interview, one of the photographers
Speaker 3: at the Inquirer dropped the Manila ovelope on my desk
Speaker 3: and guess what it was. It was a picture of
Speaker 3: me during my first interview with Pete Rose, which is
Speaker 3: the cover.
Speaker 1: Of the book. Oh that is absolutely fantastic and so
Speaker 1: really your experience here with the Cincinnati Reds. And like
Speaker 1: the book says, my Big Red Machine and hey, just gosh,
Speaker 1: that's the website. Check it out, buy the book. It's fantastic,
Speaker 1: Mybigredmachine dot com. And one thing that I don't think
Speaker 1: a lot of people know about you, Terrence. And oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, next year is our thirtieth anniversary at
Speaker 1: the nineteen ninety six Atlanta Games, the centennial Olympic Games
Speaker 1: in Atlanta.
Speaker 3: What a time you and I had doing that, Man,
Speaker 3: What a.
Speaker 1: Month at Emory, Yeah, a month at Emory University. Absolutely
Speaker 1: loved it and I'll just never forget that unbelievable experience.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you said thirty years. That means that we've been
Speaker 3: around a while.
Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, And being a nineteen seventy six graduate of
Speaker 1: the Ohio State University and I came up through the
Speaker 1: Gosha a weekly in Lebanon, then a daily in suburban Cleveland,
Speaker 1: and then thirty years at the Dayton Daily News. I'm
Speaker 1: approaching fifty years in the media really like next June.
Speaker 1: So you're right, we've been around a long time.
Speaker 3: Terrence, Well, he messed in the Ohio State University. You know,
Speaker 3: the winning is coach in the history of Ohio State,
Speaker 3: and some guy named Woody Hayes BI National Championships and
Speaker 3: you got this big start at Mine of Ohio. Now
Speaker 3: read I'm telling the story a little bit off my
Speaker 3: current book. I'm going to go back to my middle book,
Speaker 3: Red brig Magic Woody Hayes. As everybody out there probably knows,
Speaker 3: he ended his career ended December nineteen seventy eight when
Speaker 3: he slugged Charlie Bowman of Clemson on the sidelines of
Speaker 3: the Gator Bowl Game. Yes, and he vanished for six
Speaker 3: months after that from a media standpoint, and chick guess
Speaker 3: it was the first person to interview Oh, Woody Hayes
Speaker 3: six months later.
Speaker 1: Oh it's Terrence More.
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you very much.
Speaker 1: That is awesome.
Speaker 3: Here's something oh too, I gotta tell you. Okay, this
Speaker 3: guy named Kim Griffrey Jr. I guess who wrote the
Speaker 3: first story about him when he was eight years old?
Speaker 4: Was it you?
Speaker 3: I mean, I could go on. Oh right, you just
Speaker 3: want that.
Speaker 1: Out there, Terrence. One thing that a lot of folks
Speaker 1: don't know about you. You launched the career of Stephen A. Smith.
Speaker 1: Tell us that story.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't think I launched it, but I was.
Speaker 3: I was a part of it. I mean he he
Speaker 3: got to start a lot of people would say Winston Salem,
Speaker 3: some would say Philadelphia inquire Actually he got to start
Speaker 3: as an intern at the Cincinnati Inquirer. Not since I
Speaker 3: inquired I was people it was at the Atlanta General Constitution.
Speaker 3: I left that out because after leaving the Assistant Inquirer
Speaker 3: for three years, I worked at the San Francisco Examiner
Speaker 3: for five and then spent twenty five years at the
Speaker 3: Landa General Constitution and one of the biggest bills I had,
Speaker 3: they often put me in charge of at least to
Speaker 3: help out with interns. And one was a guy by
Speaker 3: the name of Steve Smith. And believe it or not, Chick,
Speaker 3: that's his real name, Steve Smith.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's wild. It's just incredible and one of the
Speaker 1: one of the great afternoons I got to spend in Oxford, Ohio,
Speaker 1: in the home and the basement of Wilbur Charles U
Speaker 1: Bank we Weave you Bank. And that was just just
Speaker 1: awesome because he was getting honored, gosh, in New York
Speaker 1: City with an award. My boss, Ralph Morrow, sent me there.
Speaker 1: I spent an afternoon with him. And oh, he's got
Speaker 1: Peley's jersey encased in glass up on his wall, and
Speaker 1: you know, he opens up a file cabinet, pulls out uh,
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's game plan nineteen sixty one. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: just uh. And he's got a pointer like like a
Speaker 1: you know, the nuns head with the rubber tip on
Speaker 1: the end, and he's going over all the members. He's
Speaker 1: got all the members of the Pro Football Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame up on like an outside wall in his basement,
Speaker 1: and you know, he's pointing at each one saying, oh,
Speaker 1: he had great feet, great hands, and and then he
Speaker 1: had a projector. He had a projector on like an
Speaker 1: ottoman and he had the you know, the screen pulled
Speaker 1: down so that he could watch old film just weep.
Speaker 1: He was unbelievable.
Speaker 3: Well, as you know, chick, what another member of the
Speaker 3: creditle we view Bank the winningest coach of the West.
Speaker 3: Could consider it the greatest game ever played between the
Speaker 3: Giants and the coach Beck in the nineteen fifties, and
Speaker 3: of course the biggest upset in the history of the
Speaker 3: Super Bowl. Super Bowl three. We viewed Bank from Mount Ohio.
Speaker 3: But it goes further than that. And like you just said,
Speaker 3: those old guys, those old cradle guys had a tendency
Speaker 3: to come back to Oxford, Ohio one way or the other.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you this quick Paul Brown story. Paul Brown.
Speaker 3: Of course everybody knows who's who Paul Brown is. But
Speaker 3: when I worked assistant inquire Brown's autobiography came out in
Speaker 3: nineteen seventy nine, they're playing the Browns, who he hated
Speaker 3: at that point because of the way he left the
Speaker 3: Browns back in the sixties. And the columnist for US
Speaker 3: back then named Mark Purty wrote this column and as
Speaker 3: Lee said that Paul Brown watched this game They're playing
Speaker 3: the Browns in Cleveland. When his book came out. He said,
Speaker 3: Paul Brown watched the game with misty eyes. Paul Brown
Speaker 3: calls assistant inquirer and gets Mark on the phone and says,
Speaker 3: I have never had missy eyes in my life. Now
Speaker 3: here's why I'm telling you the story. Okay, okay. So
Speaker 3: it's years later, nineteen eighty three eighty four. Somewhere in there,
Speaker 3: Miami is playing the last game ever at Miami Field,
Speaker 3: which was the second oldest color football stadium in the
Speaker 3: country at the time. Last game they beat Central Michigan
Speaker 3: twenty three to nothing. Perfect day if you were a
Speaker 3: rich Red Hawk fans. So it's after the game and
Speaker 3: I walked back to the stadium and I see these
Speaker 3: two figures in the distance and is Paul Brown and
Speaker 3: his wife Mary. And I kind of go around behind
Speaker 3: him and I approached Paul Brown and Paul Brown is
Speaker 3: standing there with tears coming down his face. Can you
Speaker 3: imagine that Paul Brown and tears? And I said, I said, Paul,
Speaker 3: I must have been an emotional time for you watching
Speaker 3: this last game at Mine Skills, and he and his
Speaker 3: wife quickly got a tissue and he's wiping it and
Speaker 3: he said, oh, no, no, it was just just another game,
Speaker 3: just another game. And then Mary says, oh he was
Speaker 3: crying that tire. Yes, and and I merely thought back
Speaker 3: to what he told Mark party. Uh and irity, I've
Speaker 3: never been this cid in my life.
Speaker 1: Oh, that is fantastic. Now I do some umpiring for
Speaker 1: girls fast pitch softball and some baseball, and a guy
Speaker 1: comes up to me a year or so ago at
Speaker 1: a backstop and said, Hey, are you the guy that
Speaker 1: coined the phrase the world's largest living room for Mallette Hall?
Speaker 1: And I said, yeah, that's me. I will be in
Speaker 1: tears when Mallette Hall comes down. I love the place.
Speaker 3: Well it's coming down, and uh, pretty similar for people
Speaker 3: who may not know. They're building a new arena right
Speaker 3: down Cookfield and wide open spaces and also a hotel
Speaker 3: there and check. You know. This doesn't have anything to
Speaker 3: do with with Malett, but has to do with Miami Sports.
Speaker 3: When I was in Cincinnati this week, I had a
Speaker 3: fabulous time with Tug Martin, our great football coach, and
Speaker 3: Tug Martin this guy. I would contend that he has
Speaker 3: done the greatest job of any coach in America this year.
Speaker 3: Consider this, Miami will Little Mina, Ohio is a Mid
Speaker 3: American conference school. Okay, we're in the europe NIL and
Speaker 3: also transfer portal. And every year they got to reload,
Speaker 3: they lose these players to the bigger schools. And every
Speaker 3: year he has got Miami contending for the MAC championship.
Speaker 3: Is not winning it. Right now, they're undefeated in the MAC.
Speaker 3: They won five straight with a totally new offense. And
Speaker 3: this guy gets not as much credit as he should get.
Speaker 1: You're exactly right, Terrence and Wild I've got you your
Speaker 1: Terrence more were Gosh, former sports columnist at the Atlanta
Speaker 1: Journal Constitution, where he spent twenty five years. Incredible, the
Speaker 1: real Hank Aaron. Yeah, you know, I was born in
Speaker 1: nineteen fifty four. I got to see Roberto Clemente play
Speaker 1: at Crosley Field. I fell in love with him number
Speaker 1: twenty one. But that that National League, man, how tough
Speaker 1: was it to make to make that a starting lineup?
Speaker 1: You know, with Frank Robinson and Willie Mays and Henry
Speaker 1: Aaron and Roberto Clemente. Just just a phenomenal, But your
Speaker 1: relationship to the great great Henry Aaron, it was unbelievable.
Speaker 3: I I was closer to Hank than any other reporter ever.
Speaker 3: Was a four year relationship, and it was because he
Speaker 3: trusted me so much. And I was like to tell
Speaker 3: this first story when we first met, and I'll give
Speaker 3: you the sword version of this. I was working at
Speaker 3: the Sampston stood Examiner. I was writing this story in
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty two on Blacks and Baseball, and I talked
Speaker 3: about an awful lot and Hank Aaron book and also
Speaker 3: in the latest book, My Big Red Machine, and both
Speaker 3: Hank Aaron and Joe Morgan, who I was also very
Speaker 3: close to, they were convinced back in eighty two that
Speaker 3: Major League Baseball was purposely fasing out African American players. Again, chick,
Speaker 3: this is in eighty two. They both told me in
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty two that after the turn of the century
Speaker 3: that the number of the percentage of African Americans in
Speaker 3: baseball would be less than ten percent on purpose. And
Speaker 3: guess what, it's less than ten percent. But people want
Speaker 3: to read more about I've got it in the books,
Speaker 3: both of those books. But here's why I'm bringing this up.
Speaker 3: When I first met Hank Aaron, he was the only
Speaker 3: African American executive in baseball at the time in nineteen
Speaker 3: eighty two, caught him up did in an interview with him.
Speaker 3: I'm scared to death.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: We hit it off off the bat. I'm talking to
Speaker 3: him on the phone. I'm working at the San Franisco
Speaker 3: Examiner at the time, and so, uh, when I finished
Speaker 3: the interview, and I'm listening to my tape recording, and Hank,
Speaker 3: being from the South, sometimes you have sendency to say
Speaker 3: some things. I mean, just for a phrases that might
Speaker 3: be a little bit off that if you if you didn't,
Speaker 3: I didn't quite understand him. I mean, you can misinterpret
Speaker 3: what he's what's trying to say. So I called called
Speaker 3: me back and I said, Hank, you said blah blah
Speaker 3: blah blah blah blah. I said, did you mean it
Speaker 3: this way or can you tell me exactly what you
Speaker 3: what you meant? He said, oh, thanks, thanks, thanks for
Speaker 3: calling me back. And I remember now this is this
Speaker 3: is when we first met.
Speaker 4: And then after we.
Speaker 3: Finished with that, he said, you know what he said,
Speaker 3: In all my years, I have never had a reporter
Speaker 3: do this. He said, I really appreciate this, and that's
Speaker 3: how we hit it off and check. I know you
Speaker 3: can relate to that because a lot of times we
Speaker 3: have reporters, you know, they'll just run with stuff and
Speaker 3: they know that, man, it might be a little bit
Speaker 3: out of context, as opposed to taking that time to
Speaker 3: go back to the individual and just say that is
Speaker 3: this what you meant to say? Or I just need
Speaker 3: a clarification.
Speaker 1: Oh man, that such great, really great stuff, great advice,
Speaker 1: and I know that you're a gosh a mentor to
Speaker 1: so many young journalists at Miami and elsewhere. Terrence Moore,
Speaker 1: and just want to relate one quick story with you.
Speaker 1: At the Dayton Daily News, I was shipped to Central
Speaker 1: State to interview Don King. Okay, he was getting an
Speaker 1: honorary degree, and I asked, m Don, what's your message
Speaker 1: to the marauders today, all the students here? And he said,
Speaker 1: kick the door down. In other words, when you go
Speaker 1: to an interview, you are so prepared that they can't
Speaker 1: turn you down. You're gonna, you know, kick that door down.
Speaker 1: And I'll never forget that from Don King.
Speaker 3: Well, I'll give you my piece of advice. I tell
Speaker 3: my students all the time. And as you say, I
Speaker 3: was a visiting professor at Miami for seven years, and
Speaker 3: once I started writing books, I need to be closer
Speaker 3: to here. So now I've been a visiting professor here
Speaker 3: at Georgia State now for the last two or three years.
Speaker 3: One of the things I like to tell my students
Speaker 3: I give him the sports analogy of Vince Lombardi. And
Speaker 3: Vince Lombardi used to say run to daylight. And I
Speaker 3: would say that he didn't tell his running backs to
Speaker 3: trot the daylight or to walk to the light. Run
Speaker 3: the daylight. And I say that this to say that
Speaker 3: when you see an opening for anything in your life
Speaker 3: that might be something that can help you, don't not
Speaker 3: well take advantage of it, to sprint through that thing
Speaker 3: like crazy and see what happens, because if you don't sprint,
Speaker 3: you get knocked down, and you get tackled, you get sacked.
Speaker 1: And it can be very very ugly. This has been
Speaker 1: an absolute joy, Terrence Moore, and I want to thank
Speaker 1: you and thank your brother Dennis. Maybe he can be
Speaker 1: my pr guy.
Speaker 6: Oh.
Speaker 3: I want to tell you, hey, I was getting in
Speaker 3: with that chick my brother dinners down in Mount Healthy
Speaker 3: or up in Mount Healthy, depending on where your listeners are.
Speaker 3: He's listening right now. He listens to you every Saturday.
Speaker 3: And when I told him that I was going to
Speaker 3: be on with the Great Tickster, you got a big smiles, says,
Speaker 3: oh you gotta be kissed me.
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, I mean.
Speaker 3: All I can talk about.
Speaker 1: Well, Terrence, I've been one to have you on for
Speaker 1: a long time. Thank you so much for carving out
Speaker 1: some time. You're everywhere. I love it, love reading your
Speaker 1: stuff on Facebook and really appreciate your time tonight, and
Speaker 1: all the best to you and your family.
Speaker 3: Thank you for speaking of love, love and honor to
Speaker 3: Miami our college, Oden.
Speaker 1: Grand Amen to that love and honor where today's students
Speaker 1: become tomorrow's leaders. All right, indeed, thanks so much, Terrence,
Speaker 1: Safe travels, brother, Thank you. Sports Talk with Chick Ludwig
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 4: ME She just.
Speaker 1: Eight o nine in the Queen City of Cincinnati. Chicklog Wig,
Speaker 1: seven hundred w l W. This is sports talk. We're
Speaker 1: going all the way to nine fifteen tonight, and then
Speaker 1: you see football takes over these airwaves. The seventeenth rank
Speaker 1: Bearcats collide in Salt Fake City, Utah with the Utah
Speaker 1: uch rank number twenty four in the nation. You can
Speaker 1: hear the game right here on seven hundred WLW with
Speaker 1: the all the covered starting at nine fifteen Dan Hord,
Speaker 1: Tony Pike, Moeger an hour pregame show and then kickoff
Speaker 1: from Rice Echeles Stadium at ten fifteen tonight, two hours down,
Speaker 1: one to go. Really appreciate Bruce Kozerski joining us at
Speaker 1: the bottom of the six o'clock hour. Bengals legend. Bruce
Speaker 1: and I will be co hosting Bengals postgame Sports Talk
Speaker 1: tomorrow five thirty to eight thirty after the Bengals and
Speaker 1: Bears game, and we will be live at the Wings
Speaker 1: and Rings, Oakley tomorrow from five thirty to eight thirty.
Speaker 1: Would love to see you come on out and let's
Speaker 1: celebrate a Bengals victory. So Bruce Kozerski in that first hour.
Speaker 1: Then Hal McCoy joined US Hall of Fame Baseball writer
Speaker 1: talking Reds and the World Series. Nothing beats Game seven
Speaker 1: and man, it's on right now eight o'clock start Game
Speaker 1: seven at the Rogers Center, Toronto Blue Jays against the
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Dodgers, and we're rooting for the Blue Jays
Speaker 1: because the Cincinnati Reads were the last National League team
Speaker 1: to win back to back World Series championships nineteen seventy
Speaker 1: five nineteen seventy six, and I don't want the Dodgers
Speaker 1: to do it tonight because they won it last year.
Speaker 1: Go Blue Jays. And then Terrence Moore joined us. Wow,
Speaker 1: that is some of the most fun I've had in
Speaker 1: a long time. Just tremendous, great stories and his books
Speaker 1: are award winning. Check them out. Just Google up Terrence T. E.
Speaker 1: R E n C. E. Moore, m R E. My
Speaker 1: Big Redmachine dot Com, The Real Hank Aaron and RedBrick
Speaker 1: Magic all about the cradle of coaches at Miami University
Speaker 1: and college basketball is getting ready to start. Man, I'm
Speaker 1: not ready yet, but here it comes. And there's just
Speaker 1: so many new players on so many teams. Man, you
Speaker 1: need you need a scorecard, definitely to check out all
Speaker 1: the new players. So I'm eager to listen to Dan
Speaker 1: Horde call the UC Bearcats, and I'm excited to listen
Speaker 1: to Xavier University with their new head coach, Richard Patino
Speaker 1: and get to know some of these players. And I'll
Speaker 1: give another shout out here to Miami, the University and
Speaker 1: the Men of Steel head coach Travis Steel. In a
Speaker 1: day and age when transfers the transfer portal Nil, It's
Speaker 1: absolutely crazy with all the new players. Miami returns ten
Speaker 1: players from last year's squad, and Travis Steel, in his
Speaker 1: fourth year, is the head men's basketball coach coming off
Speaker 1: the most wins in school history. He begins his fourth
Speaker 1: year at the helm of the program after finishing his
Speaker 1: third season with a twenty five and nine record, fourteen
Speaker 1: and four in the Mid American Conference. So ten players return,
Speaker 1: but I want to circle back here with the Cincinnati
Speaker 1: Bengals and so many fans up in arms over this team.
Speaker 1: Start at three and five, Upset with head coach Zach Taylor,
Speaker 1: upset with the meltdown against the New York Jets in
Speaker 1: a thirty nine to thirty eight loss last Sunday on
Speaker 1: a Ring of Honor Day. Then I come across a
Speaker 1: Facebook post by the great Jim McNally, offensive line coach
Speaker 1: the extraordinary Back In June, he was honored at the
Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame, one of fifteen recipients of
Speaker 1: these awards for excellence given out by the Pro Football
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame for his great work as the Bengals
Speaker 1: offensive line coach. And I want to read you his
Speaker 1: post on Facebook and and he wrote this for Cincinnati
Speaker 1: Bengal followers. I worked for them, and this is Jim
Speaker 1: Mouse McNally. I worked for them fifteen years full time,
Speaker 1: in ten years part time. That's twenty five years. The
Speaker 1: fans are getting on edge. The present team is built
Speaker 1: on perhaps the best one to two quarterback playing Joe Burrow,
Speaker 1: with Jamar Chase, who is the best receiver hands down
Speaker 1: in the league, and t Higgins another great receiver. They
Speaker 1: have a new great offensive line coach in Scott Peters.
Speaker 1: After Joe got hurt, their identity fell into no man's land.
Speaker 1: Then here comes Joe Flacco. It had taken Scott a
Speaker 1: full spring and fall to toughen up the offensive line
Speaker 1: since he has two rookies at guard, and he had
Speaker 1: to change their mentality, especially on the run game. The
Speaker 1: last few weeks they have run for one hundred and
Speaker 1: forty and one hundred and seventy yards and beat the Steelers,
Speaker 1: who lead the division. And Jim says, quit bashing the
Speaker 1: ownership and personnel department. Is no one else has a Burrow,
Speaker 1: Chase and Higgins. They cost and he's got three dollars
Speaker 1: signs that's big money. True, the defense is spotty and
Speaker 1: an issue to date. You can blame coaching, scouting, or
Speaker 1: just playing bad luck. As they fired their former defensive
Speaker 1: coordinator who happens to be Loot and Rumo, who is
Speaker 1: now leading the Colts to an excellent season. How many
Speaker 1: years have the Bills fans bashed their front office and coaches.
Speaker 1: They've done it for years. Now they've got Josh Allen.
Speaker 1: He makes all three phases survive even if the defense
Speaker 1: or special teams has an average or poor game. What
Speaker 1: if Josh got hurt just like Joe b did, would
Speaker 1: the Bills be as good? You know the answer. Every
Speaker 1: team has haters in the stands or on the couch.
Speaker 1: All thirty two have issues. Enjoy the games and be
Speaker 1: glad your city has a team. And on one of
Speaker 1: the comments, Jim McNally posts a reply to a fan.
Speaker 1: He says, it's all true. Everybody wants to fire everybody
Speaker 1: in the NFL. In college, securing the players has become
Speaker 1: ninety percent of the job, not coaching, not scheme. In
Speaker 1: the free agency. In the NFL, and the portal nil
Speaker 1: in College has put the onus on getting the players,
Speaker 1: not how well you coach them, So the word coach
Speaker 1: has little meaning in this day and age. Was Belichick
Speaker 1: a great coach in New England for twenty years? Or
Speaker 1: was it's Tom Brady? I coached for the love of developing,
Speaker 1: refined and update running and pass blocking techniques, But now
Speaker 1: that means little in this day and age. Of securing
Speaker 1: the right players, especially the quarterback, and he put the
Speaker 1: QB in all caps. That is mouse McNally. Your reaction
Speaker 1: when we return. This is Chick Ludwig Sports Talk seven
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Speaker 1: The chicks are with you till nine to fifteen tonight
Speaker 1: on seven hundred WLW, eight twenty two in the Queen
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Speaker 1: sports talk like Eric Carmen and the Raspberries were going
Speaker 1: all the way to nine to fifteen tonight, and then
Speaker 1: you see football takes over these airwaves with Dan Horde,
Speaker 1: Tony Pike, and Moeger calling all the action from rice
Speaker 1: echos Stadium in Salt Lake City. It's the seventeenth ranked
Speaker 1: Bearcats against the twenty fourth ranked Utah Utes. And what
Speaker 1: a scene it was today College Game Day ESPN Place
Speaker 1: was unbelievable. They had a what's called a ute meter
Speaker 1: and it measured the decipels and man ear splitting sound
Speaker 1: coming from the crowd just jam packed and it was
Speaker 1: just a phenomenal scene. So that crowd is just electric
Speaker 1: waiting on the UC Bearcats tonight. Man, it all started
Speaker 1: at the crack at dawn today. Amazing And at the
Speaker 1: bottom after the bottom of the hour news, we're gonna
Speaker 1: welcome in Scott Springer of the Cincinnati Enquirer and we're
Speaker 1: gonna get his take on UC in Utah. But I
Speaker 1: want to update some college football scores right now. Late
Speaker 1: second quarter, the seventh ranked Old Miss Rebels seventeen to
Speaker 1: seven lead at home over South Carolina. The twenty first
Speaker 1: ranked Michigan Wolverines in the Big House tied with Purdue
Speaker 1: at seven with a minute to go before halftime. NC
Speaker 1: State at home leads number eight Georgia Tech fourteen to ten.
Speaker 1: Just at the start early second quarter, Oklahoma and Tennessee
Speaker 1: tied at seven, midway through the first quarter and Nebraska
Speaker 1: has a seven to three lead on USC early second quarter.
Speaker 1: Just looking here at the conference standings in the Big Twelve,
Speaker 1: BYU and Cincinnati are tied atop the conference at five
Speaker 1: and oh. BYU is eight to no overall, and the
Speaker 1: Bearcats are seven and one, riding that seven game winning
Speaker 1: streak after the opening game loss to Nebraska at Arrowhead
Speaker 1: Stadium in Kansas City, a half game behind the tenth
Speaker 1: ranked Cougars and the seventeenth ranked Bearcats number thirteen Texas
Speaker 1: Tech winner. Today they are five and one in the
Speaker 1: Big Twelve, eight and one overall. In the Houston Cougars
Speaker 1: number twenty two, they're going to fall after a loss today.
Speaker 1: They're seven and two overall, four and two in the conference,
Speaker 1: and Arizona's eight is four and two. And then you've
Speaker 1: got the TCU Horned Frogs the Utah Utes, both three
Speaker 1: and two in the conference. Utah six and two overall
Speaker 1: but ranked twenty fourth in the nation. So looking forward
Speaker 1: to tonight and we've got the Game seven of the
Speaker 1: World Series has started. Show Hey Otani is on the
Speaker 1: mound for the Los Angeles Dodgers. There's one out Vladimir
Speaker 1: Guerrero is up to the plate. George Springer had a
Speaker 1: leadoff single. So we're in the bottom of the first
Speaker 1: no score at the Rogers Center in Toronto. And just
Speaker 1: looking ahead here at UC schedule as we get ready
Speaker 1: for tonight's game. And by the way, on College Game
Speaker 1: Day there they're analysts who you know, with the old
Speaker 1: under and the betting line and all that good stuff.
Speaker 1: Stanford Steve he said, do U see Bearcats are going
Speaker 1: to win the Big twelve? How about that? Well? After
Speaker 1: tonight's game against Utah, you see hosts Arizona and then
Speaker 1: you see hosts number ten BYU. Is there a chance
Speaker 1: at College Game Day could come back to Knippert Stadium
Speaker 1: this year? How awesome would that be? And then the
Speaker 1: regular season you see finishes up the twenty twenty five
Speaker 1: regular season at TCU. So tough schedule down the stretch
Speaker 1: here with two top twenty five teams Utah and BYU.
Speaker 1: It's going to be so important for UC to weather
Speaker 1: the storm early tonight at Rice Echo Stadium. The crowd's
Speaker 1: going to be absolutely electric. You see, cannot panic, all right,
Speaker 1: U see's got to prove that it can contain the
Speaker 1: running game of Utah, and Utah's defense is going to
Speaker 1: attempt to shut down Brendan Soresby and this high powered
Speaker 1: you see offense. So if you see could just weather
Speaker 1: the storm early and not panic in front of a
Speaker 1: incredibly hostile crowd and then really hopefully take a lead,
Speaker 1: build on it and if not, be close enough in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter that you can steal the victory late
Speaker 1: in the game. But the start really of the of
Speaker 1: the game and then the third quarter it's, uh, it's
Speaker 1: just absolutely huge. But if they would suffer a turnover
Speaker 1: and fall behind with that hostile crowd, you don't want
Speaker 1: it to get ugly. And then just looking at the
Speaker 1: right now, the spread is eleven and a half for
Speaker 1: Utah minus eleven point five, so you see a big
Speaker 1: underdog tonight and the over undertotal is fifty eight and
Speaker 1: a half points. So, man, just get ready for a
Speaker 1: huge night here game seven of the World Series, and
Speaker 1: you see Utah coming. And after the bottom of the
Speaker 1: hour news, we'll welcome in Scott Springer of the Cincinnati
Speaker 1: Enchoir to break it all down like a wrecking ball
Speaker 1: right here with your host, Chick Ludwig on seven hundred
Speaker 1: WLW eight thirty nine into Queen City of Cincinnati. Chick Ludwig,
Speaker 1: this is sports Talk. We're going all the way to
Speaker 1: nine fifteen tonight and sports Talk bleeds right into the
Speaker 1: Big twelve Conference showdown between the number seventeen you see
Speaker 1: Bearcats and the number twenty four utah Utes at Rice
Speaker 1: Echels Stadium in Salt Lake City, kickoff ten fifteen, but
Speaker 1: our coverage starts at nine fifteen. And here to join
Speaker 1: us from the Cincinnati Enquirer, the Bearcats beat writer, Scott Springer.
Speaker 8: Hi, Scott, Chick, what's up man?
Speaker 11: It's gorgeous here ben to BYU and now at Rice
Speaker 11: Ecles Stadium. And I'm not so sure. I don't know
Speaker 11: which one is the best. I think this one might be.
Speaker 11: Looking at the view. They both have outstanding views. And
Speaker 11: you know, the guys up here have to call the game.
Speaker 11: But what a night, you know, clear night shoot on
Speaker 11: the big screen. They got Tennessee and Oklahoma going on,
Speaker 11: and Mo's got the World Series on and the Dacoozie
Speaker 11: Jets running and all sorts of filet mignon wrapped in
Speaker 11: bacon and all the amenities that are radio crew would get.
Speaker 1: Oh that is fantastic, and I can only imagine what
Speaker 1: the scene is like there. Just watching some of the
Speaker 1: college game Day on ESPN this morning, that place was electric.
Speaker 1: There was a thing called the ute meter, and I
Speaker 1: guess the decibels were ear splitting out there. But just
Speaker 1: that crowd has got to be electric out there.
Speaker 11: They're a noisy lunch They were up early, so we'll
Speaker 11: see if they went home and took a nap, because
Speaker 11: after game day ended, you know, it was ten hours
Speaker 11: and fifteen minutes until kickoff, so a long, long night
Speaker 11: here in Salt Lake City. But I'm looking at the
Speaker 11: muss right now. It's Muss, Muss, mighty Utah student section
Speaker 11: is what that stands for.
Speaker 8: And apparently their deals.
Speaker 11: They jump up and down on third down and they
Speaker 11: try to disrupt the count and get the teams to
Speaker 11: jump off sides. But the one thing you see has
Speaker 11: going for now, we'll see. You know, this might be
Speaker 11: louder than we think, but the first game against Nebraska
Speaker 11: Arrowhead Stadium was as loud as I've heard. Dan Horde
Speaker 11: has called Bengals Chiefs games there. He said it's the
Speaker 11: loudest he's ever heard. And U see, did all right?
Speaker 11: You know, you're passed away from winning that game. It
Speaker 11: certainly was loud, and then I think that's helped them
Speaker 11: going on the road to other places, you know, like
Speaker 11: Kansas where they win in the final minute forty five
Speaker 11: and Oklahoma State was still loud even though their team
Speaker 11: is not doing as well. So I think they're well
Speaker 11: prepared for this. They're probably ready to go silent if
Speaker 11: need be. They're just running into a very tough team.
Speaker 11: It's very very good at night and very very good
Speaker 11: at home.
Speaker 1: Scott Springer's with us to preview UC and Utah tonight. Gosh,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at standings here after Texas Tech's forty three
Speaker 1: to twenty victory over k State. The thirteenth ranked Red
Speaker 1: Raiders win today and banned a little bit of a
Speaker 1: tighten up, you know, in the Big twelve, but BYU
Speaker 1: you see at the top of the standings a half
Speaker 1: game back. Here is is Texas Tech and this is gosh,
Speaker 1: what an opportunity. I guess that's the key word here
Speaker 1: for that. You see Bearcats tonight.
Speaker 11: Well that's the way you have to look at it.
Speaker 11: If you're you see fanas, you're here, you know you're here.
Speaker 11: You're seven and one. It's better better than being you know,
Speaker 11: two and five or whatever, where this game doesn't matter.
Speaker 8: The game matters. Now.
Speaker 11: I don't know what the oddsmakers are seeing because it
Speaker 11: started out with a ten, ten and a half point spread,
Speaker 11: and I'm looking at ESPN now it's up to and
Speaker 11: eleven and.
Speaker 8: A half point spread. So Utah, they're mighty.
Speaker 11: They have scored over forty points in five games this season,
Speaker 11: but the Bearcats have also scored three games over forty.
Speaker 11: They have had six games total over thirty points, so
Speaker 11: on average, they're both right and around, you know, almost
Speaker 11: thirty nine points per game. Both have very good running attacks.
Speaker 11: You talked just about round Colorado off the field by
Speaker 11: halftime last week, and that was with their backup quarterback
Speaker 11: Bird Ficklin and Devin dan Pier is supposed to be
Speaker 11: ready to go tonight, so he's you know, he can
Speaker 11: throw it, he can run it, he can do a
Speaker 11: lot of things. So can Brendan Sorosby. So you need
Speaker 11: some Bearcats to step up. You probably need some turnovers tonight.
Speaker 11: U See has not had many turnovers. Sorbie just one interception.
Speaker 11: He's only been sacked twice, so if they can, you know,
Speaker 11: keep it like that offensively and then defensively maybe you know,
Speaker 11: come up with something just one interception this year for
Speaker 11: the Bearcat defense, which seems kind of odd, but they've
Speaker 11: only lost one game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Brendon sorosby twenty touchdown passes want just one interception. Incredible.
Speaker 1: The total for tonight on ESPN is fifty eight and
Speaker 1: a half points. Gosh, I mean the knee jerk reaction
Speaker 1: is you know, the total is going to go over that,
Speaker 1: but it's going to be fun. And the one thing
Speaker 1: I told the listeners earlier, you know, you see has
Speaker 1: to kind of weather the storm early, you know, with
Speaker 1: an electric crowd in a hostile environment, and just be
Speaker 1: cool and hopefully get a lead and build on it
Speaker 1: and if not, man be close enough in the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter to steal this thing.
Speaker 11: Well, if you look at their other games, they've had
Speaker 11: reasonably good first half where they've come out hut and they've
Speaker 11: played most of their offense in the first half and
Speaker 11: then kind of dialed it back and chewed up the
Speaker 11: clock and won the games. So a couple of the
Speaker 11: games got a little close at one point or another,
Speaker 11: but then you see pulled away. You know, last week
Speaker 11: forty one to twenty against Baylor, that got to be
Speaker 11: twenty eight twenty at one point, and they had a
Speaker 11: big lead, had a big lead against Iowa State.
Speaker 8: Iowa State came back, but they held them off.
Speaker 11: Oklahoma State got a little bit close, but you see,
Speaker 11: made a rally and ran away. The only game they
Speaker 11: trailed at halftime is Nebraska, and that should have been
Speaker 11: six to three. There was a I think Caleb Goodie
Speaker 11: dropped the pass. There was a fumble and that led
Speaker 11: to a Nebraska touchdown right before halftime. So that was
Speaker 11: thirteen to three and a half and they've that's the
Speaker 11: only game that they've trailed at halftime.
Speaker 1: And I really like, gosh the one two paunch that
Speaker 1: UC has, you know at running back, and it has
Speaker 1: certainly helped Brendan Soresby. Also, best friend of the quarterback
Speaker 1: is Irons out tonight? Is he okay?
Speaker 11: Kevin Pryor is out? Yeah, he is out, and they
Speaker 11: declared him out earlier in the week. So you're gonna
Speaker 11: see a lot of tune with Walker. But he's the
Speaker 11: guy that I mean, he just belted the kid from
Speaker 11: Ioway stayed a few weeks back I don't know if
Speaker 11: you saw the video. Yes, he des trucked him and
Speaker 11: he's that's the way he runs. He's a bulldozers about
Speaker 11: five eight two hundred and twenty pounds.
Speaker 8: And they'll just take you down.
Speaker 11: And I think what you're probably going to see in
Speaker 11: the place of Heaven Pryor would be I'm guessing Manny
Speaker 11: Covey because he's very fast. Against Texas Tech a year ago,
Speaker 11: he came in when Corey Kiner went out very early
Speaker 11: in the first quarter, and he didn't necessarily run as much,
Speaker 11: but he got six passes for one hundred yards and
Speaker 11: scored two touchdowns. So very fast, elusive similar to prior.
Speaker 11: He also had a pun return called back against Kansas
Speaker 11: in that game.
Speaker 8: But if you remember that game, you.
Speaker 11: See had four touchdowns called back against against Kansas and
Speaker 11: still won. So they're playing some other guys that night too.
Speaker 11: And then the Kenny Covey Yeah.
Speaker 1: Great, yeah.
Speaker 11: Chance Williams is another guy that out of Grambling State
Speaker 11: that could factor in here running wise.
Speaker 1: And definitely the wide receivers for U see the guys
Speaker 1: they brought in here, there's some special talent there.
Speaker 11: For Brent Well, they stretched the field yes, Caleb Goody
Speaker 11: averages you know, over nineteen yards per catch, and then
Speaker 11: you have Jeff Caldwell round seventeen and that Raine Cyrus.
Speaker 11: Allen's more the possession receiver at eleven something, but he
Speaker 11: can make some moves and score the ball for you.
Speaker 11: And Noah Jennings Isaiah Johnson two guys that have come up.
Speaker 11: So they've done better at receiver with guys that are
Speaker 11: a little bit faster and making some plays. So but
Speaker 11: for all that to work, you know, there has to
Speaker 11: be some form of a run. And the Barrikats have
Speaker 11: normally been decent and running the ball, typically get over
Speaker 11: two hundred yards a game. But you're facing a team
Speaker 11: that last week ran for well over four hundred yards
Speaker 11: on the ground. The most UC's given up was I
Speaker 11: think two twenty eight against Oklahoma State. So it's it's
Speaker 11: stopped the run for the defense and established the run
Speaker 11: for the offense.
Speaker 8: Simple as that.
Speaker 1: And Scott Springer's with us for a couple more minutes.
Speaker 1: In Scott, you know, a a three four defense, three
Speaker 1: down lineman. Man, it worries me at times, you know,
Speaker 1: almost a natural crease in a way for a running back.
Speaker 1: But they They've shown a four down look too, haven't they.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 11: Well, Sadderfield mentioned earlier this week that they probably will
Speaker 11: have to crowd the box a little bit more based
Speaker 11: on the way this runs the ball, So I would
Speaker 11: look for more of that, and we'll see.
Speaker 8: How they do throwing the ball.
Speaker 11: But to be an interesting game, It's feel like I've
Speaker 11: been up all day long, you know, looking at all
Speaker 11: this stuff, and it's finally nighttime here and the crowd's
Speaker 11: not yet filed in.
Speaker 8: But I'm sure it's going to be a good one.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 11: It seats about fifty one thousand and change, and the
Speaker 11: students we'll see, like if they're still awake, if they
Speaker 11: got an app or if they're backfired up again or
Speaker 11: I don't know, they were worked up this morning and
Speaker 11: they did not have very kind things to say about
Speaker 11: their neighbors and Proglo.
Speaker 8: I know that much.
Speaker 1: Oh bet, I'll bet it's a two hour time difference
Speaker 1: out there, So a ten to fifteen start is an
Speaker 1: eight to fifteen start. Our coverage starts here locally at
Speaker 1: nine to fifteen. And just really looking forward to this
Speaker 1: game and the opportunity in front of U s here
Speaker 1: trying to win its eighth consecutive game and tied atop
Speaker 1: the standards with BYU. And just looking at the schedule here,
Speaker 1: you know, with Arizona coming in here and then number
Speaker 1: ten b YU and then going on the road to TCU.
Speaker 1: I'm loving Stanford Steve Pick of UC winning the Big twelve.
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's a good guy.
Speaker 11: I got to talk to him yesterday and he's a
Speaker 11: former tight end and he was raving about Joe roy Or.
Speaker 11: He loves Joe Royer and maybe Joe Royer gets the
Speaker 11: ball more tonight and that would that would help the
Speaker 11: Bearcats out. But back to what you're saying, you know,
Speaker 11: the schedule is certainly not easy for the Bearcats. You
Speaker 11: look at Texas Techa one today and so they're going
Speaker 11: to play BYU next week. I wouldn't be shocked to
Speaker 11: find out that the game day goes to Lubbock for
Speaker 11: that game. But then BYU is in with UC on
Speaker 11: November twenty second, that's a game coming up. You see,
Speaker 11: we'll have Arizona first on the fifteenth, and Arizona is
Speaker 11: you know, they're thumping Colorado thirty eight to seven tonight,
Speaker 11: So Arizona's good. BYU is good TCU will be at
Speaker 11: home in Fort Worth.
Speaker 8: These guys are good.
Speaker 11: Everybody's good, so you might as well be good right
Speaker 11: along with him and take your chances.
Speaker 1: Seven teams in the Big twelve two losses or one
Speaker 1: or none, so it's it's shaping up to be a
Speaker 1: fantastic conference.
Speaker 8: Well, and you can't take anyone lightly.
Speaker 11: Houston just jumped into the top twenty five this week
Speaker 11: and they were seven and one, and they lose at
Speaker 11: home today to West Virginia forty five thirty five, So
Speaker 11: rich Rod gets one over the Cougars. I guess that
Speaker 11: might have been the Holgerson ball, since he used to
Speaker 11: coach at both the places, but he's he's long gone.
Speaker 11: He's at Nebraska offensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: Beautiful, and the view has to be spectacular there. Gosh,
Speaker 1: do you find yourself having to concentrate on the field.
Speaker 11: Well, once it gets dark, he really can't see these
Speaker 11: mountains as much as he did earlier. So yeah, and
Speaker 11: the lights are on so you really can focus.
Speaker 4: But yeah.
Speaker 11: My youngest son and his wife live in near Salt
Speaker 11: Lake City, so I've been out here a fair amount
Speaker 11: of times, and I tell them, one of these days
Speaker 11: I'm going to get tired of taking pictures. But it
Speaker 11: hasn't happened yet because I went on a walk today
Speaker 11: and it's just gorgeous. You can't help yourself, you know,
Speaker 11: but look around and look at everything. It's it's really awesome.
Speaker 11: But the bearcats can't look at the mountains. They got
Speaker 11: to keep climbing the hill.
Speaker 1: And Scott Springer before I let you go, just a
Speaker 1: couple of real keys here tonight for the for a
Speaker 1: bear Cat's victory.
Speaker 8: Well the keys.
Speaker 11: Tommy Walker has to get the run going and be
Speaker 11: successful with the run or whoever's running. And if they
Speaker 11: can't run, you know, like Manny Covey has been good
Speaker 11: at taking short dump passes it and getting yard ex
Speaker 11: that way, so that has to work.
Speaker 8: You got to keep sores v upright.
Speaker 11: It's only been sacked twice, and I think Utah sacked
Speaker 11: Colorado's quarterback seven times last week. So keeps sores v
Speaker 11: upright and then defensively pressure their quarterback.
Speaker 8: And it's not going to be easy because he's very elusive.
Speaker 11: Devin Damfier came from New Mexico and Utah's offensive court
Speaker 11: also came from New Mexico, and that's the system.
Speaker 8: That they run, So you have a very elusive quarterback.
Speaker 11: You just you're probably going to give up yards, but
Speaker 11: you know, maybe if you can just give up the
Speaker 11: yards between the twenties, you have a chance.
Speaker 1: Well, we really appreciate you joining us tonight, Scott, and
Speaker 1: we look forward to the broadcast here with with Dan Horde,
Speaker 1: Tony Pike and Moe Ager and hopefully it's a big
Speaker 1: night here for the Bearcats.
Speaker 8: They're all ready to go.
Speaker 11: It's a nice snug booth and Tony's got his skittles
Speaker 11: to the right here. I told him I would stay
Speaker 11: away from him because that's that's like his go.
Speaker 1: To fantastic All the best of the men, looking forward
Speaker 1: to the broadcast and reading your stuff in the Inquirer
Speaker 1: and Cincinnati dot Com. All righty, sir, thanks a lot,
Speaker 1: appreciate it, Scott Springer, and I hope Bryce in Cincinnati
Speaker 1: wants to talk Bearcats. I hope you'll hold on. We've
Speaker 1: got to take a break and we'll come back with
Speaker 1: more sports Talk on seven hundred WLW eight fifty six
Speaker 1: in the Queen City chick Ludwigs seven hundred WLW. This
Speaker 1: is Sports Talk and the Bearcats ranked seventeenth in the
Speaker 1: nation puts its seven game winning streak on the line
Speaker 1: tonight at Utah. Let's go out to the phones, Bryce,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for holding. Welcome to seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 1: All right, chick, how are we doing?
Speaker 2: I'm doing great?
Speaker 3: How are you?
Speaker 1: Oh fantastic? What is on your mind tonight?
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 1: I'm fired up over the Bearcats.
Speaker 3: I'm just so black.
Speaker 2: College game Day finally went to a Big twelfth city.
Speaker 2: Big twelve finally got the national attention.
Speaker 1: Amen to that I was able to watch for a
Speaker 1: little while this morning. The place looked just incredible.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that crowd was super electric. And I don't
Speaker 2: know if we're going to shut up at any point
Speaker 2: during this game tonight, the last time by Big twelve.
Speaker 2: Teams are right simultaneously in the AP Top twenty five.
Speaker 2: What September twenty second of last year, and we're about
Speaker 2: to seat the Big twelve Maniston and at ten to
Speaker 2: fifteen a kickoff Eastern time, as the UC Bearcats take
Speaker 2: on the usty youth.
Speaker 1: Man, you did your homework. Yeah. Five teams ranked out
Speaker 1: of the Big Twelve in the top twenty five, Number
Speaker 1: ten BYU the seventeenth ranked Bearcats, thirteenth ranked Texas Tech
Speaker 1: Red Raiders, the Cougars of Houston twenty second for the
Speaker 1: time being, although they got beat today and then yeah
Speaker 1: and then twenty fourth rank Utah. So it's a it's
Speaker 1: a great conference, it's a competitive conference. The top of
Speaker 1: it little the tighten up brother and uh, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be fun tonight watching the Bearcats. Hope they can pull
Speaker 1: this one out. Oh yeah, what else do you like
Speaker 1: about UC tonight?
Speaker 2: I mean, I think if there's any team that could
Speaker 2: put a rain on these Big ten I mean twelve
Speaker 2: teams perad, I think it's the UC Bearcats. And what
Speaker 2: Brendan Swersby has done. Scott Sadderfield during Big twe B
Speaker 2: Day earlier in the season, he was talking up a
Speaker 2: storm about Brendon Swersby and Brandon Sorosby backed it up.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's gone dead been straight games with the
Speaker 2: multiple pass tds and zero interceptions, and he's gonna have
Speaker 2: to keep that streak tonight to pull out of YUC victory.
Speaker 1: Forty three passing yards, twenty touchdowns and only one interception.
Speaker 1: That's absolutely incredible.
Speaker 11: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: I compared the last year with the struggles that they
Speaker 2: had last year in the Big Twelve Conference. Is just
Speaker 2: great to see him.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they got so close to a Bowl eligibility
Speaker 1: then they went right down the tubes. So it's great
Speaker 1: to secure a Bowl eligibility so early in the season.
Speaker 1: And now let's just keep pushing. And I loved what
Speaker 1: Stanford Steve said on ESPN College Game Day. He likes
Speaker 1: the Bearcats to win the Big Twelve.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but the defense is gonna have to clutch
Speaker 2: up in this game at home. The opponents third out
Speaker 2: conversion percentage is about thirty percent away, it's almost fifty percent,
Speaker 2: and Utah is one of the best teams in the
Speaker 2: country on third down. To that defense is gonna have
Speaker 2: to really step up today.
Speaker 1: Bryce, thank you for holding you get my caller of
Speaker 1: the night. Appreciate you.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Jick.
Speaker 5: I have a great rest of your weekend.
Speaker 2: You'd hope you enjoy this new team football game.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we sure will, Thank you, Bryce. That is awesome.
Speaker 1: We've reached the top of the hour. News We go
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Speaker 1: This is your host, Chick Ludwig on the Home of
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Speaker 8: To me.
Speaker 1: Ten minutes after nine in the Queen City of Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: Chick Ludwig, seven hundred WLW. This is sports Talk. We
Speaker 1: are five minutes away from UC football shoeless. Joe Waddell
Speaker 1: is tonight's producer. We're going to nine fifteen. Don't forget
Speaker 1: to set your alarm clocks back for an extra hour
Speaker 1: of sleep tonight as we transition from Daylight Savings time
Speaker 1: to standard time starting at two a m. On Sunday.
Speaker 1: What a matchup We've got to the number seventeenth ranked
Speaker 1: University of Cincinnati Bearcats against the number twenty four ranked
Speaker 1: Utah Utes at Rice Eckles Stadium in Salt Lake City.
Speaker 1: Kickoff is ten point fifteen, but all the coverage right
Speaker 1: here on the Big one seven hundred WLW starting at
Speaker 1: nine to fifteen, and it all happens at Rice Eckles
Speaker 1: Stadium in Salt Lake City, Utah. Well, and you heard
Speaker 1: Scott Springer say it, It's going to be very important
Speaker 1: for this offensive line of the UC Bearcats to keep
Speaker 1: Brendan Soresby upright twenty touchdown passes only one interception in
Speaker 1: a big time shout out to that offensive line. Left
Speaker 1: tackle Joe Cotton, Left guard Evan teng Gasol center, incredible
Speaker 1: player at center from zenia A High School, Gavin Gerhart,
Speaker 1: the leader of this team. Right guard tarn TiO and
Speaker 1: DeAndre Buford at tackle, and then in the trenches on defense,
Speaker 1: Micah Coleman left defensive end, the Godfather, Dante Corleone at
Speaker 1: nose tackle, and Jalen Hunt at right defensive end. I
Speaker 1: think you're gonna see more stacked boxes instead of the
Speaker 1: three to four, a lot more four down linemen for
Speaker 1: UC tonight to trying to slow down the Utah Utes
Speaker 1: running game. And then wow, the uh the special special
Speaker 1: teams unit's going to be huge tonight for U, see
Speaker 1: no doubt about that. And Max Fletcher the punter, and
Speaker 1: then how about Stephen Russknack your placekicker. He hasn't missed
Speaker 1: a kick, a field goal or an extra point all season.
Speaker 1: So it's uh. It's gonna be a severe test to
Speaker 1: night at Utah, but at the same time, a great
Speaker 1: opportunity for the seventeenth ranked Bearcats. Looking forward to the
Speaker 1: call from Dan Horde tonight along with the color analyst
Speaker 1: Tony Pike and our host on Gosh the Bearcats does
Speaker 1: a phenomenal job. Moeger and I know most going to
Speaker 1: update some college football scores. I want to do that
Speaker 1: right now. Old Miss the seventh ranked Rebels have a
Speaker 1: seventeen to fourteen lead over South Carolina midway through the
Speaker 1: third quarter. Michigan has pulled ahead of Purdue fourteen to
Speaker 1: ten with five minutes to go in the third quarter.
Speaker 1: NC State at halftime a twenty four to seventeen lead
Speaker 1: over Georgia, Tech, Tennessee and Oklahoma are tied to ten
Speaker 1: with two forty one to go before halftime, and Nebraska
Speaker 1: leads number twenty three ranked Southern Cal seventeen to six.
Speaker 1: Ohio State a big winner today over Penn State. The
Speaker 1: number one rank Buckeyes thirty eight to four thirteen over
Speaker 1: Penn State. Number two Indiana crushes Maryland fifty five to ten,
Speaker 1: and Number five Georgia a twenty four to twenty winner
Speaker 1: in Gainesville over the Florida Gators, and Texas, ranked twentieth
Speaker 1: in the nation, pulls out a thirty four to thirty
Speaker 1: one victory over the ninth ranked Vanderbilt Commodores in Austin, Texas.
Speaker 1: I want to take this opportunity to thank our guest tonight,
Speaker 1: Bruce Kozerski, Bengals legend. He's going to join me as
Speaker 1: a co host tomorrow for Bengals postgame sports talk following
Speaker 1: the Bengals Bears game one o'clock kickoff at pay Corpse Stadium.
Speaker 1: Bruce and I will be at the Wings and Rings
Speaker 1: in Oakley tomorrow night from five thirty to eight thirty.
Speaker 1: Hal McCoy joined us to talk Reds and Game seven
Speaker 1: of the World Series in the seven o'clock hour. Terrence
Speaker 1: Moore live from Atlanta. Also in the seven o'clock hour,
Speaker 1: talking about his book, My Big Red Machine. Google up
Speaker 1: Terrence Moore, It's a great read. And of course Scott
Speaker 1: Springer of The Inquirer and Cincinnati dot Com joining us
Speaker 1: to give us a preview of tonight's Utah UC game
Speaker 1: Texas Tech one. They're a half game behind co leaders
Speaker 1: BYU and UC and the Bearcats. Utah Utes are next
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