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Speaker 1: seven hundred wl W. This is Sports Talk Shoeless. Joe

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Speaker 1: Waddell is tonight's producer. We're going all the way to

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Speaker 1: nine fifteen and that means three hours and fifteen minutes

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Speaker 1: of fun. But first things first, don't forget to set

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Speaker 1: tonight as we transition from Daylight Savings time to standard

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Speaker 1: time starting at two am on Sunday. And what a

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Speaker 1: day it's been, What a week it's been, What a

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Speaker 1: night it will be. And there's a lot to sort

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Speaker 1: through with every Saturday feeling like a January one football

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Speaker 1: Bowl day, and that includes today as our show tonight

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Speaker 1: bleeds right into our coverage of the Big twelve Conference

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Speaker 1: showdown between the number seventeen you see Bearcats and the

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Speaker 1: number twenty four Utah Utes at Rice Echles Stadium in

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Speaker 1: Salt Lake City, Utah. Kickoff is ten fifteen tonight, and

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Speaker 1: you can hear the game right here on the Big

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Speaker 1: One seven hundred WLW. ESPN's College Game Day was at

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Speaker 1: Utah this morning and the scene outside Rice Eclels Stadium

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Speaker 1: was absolutely insane with the ute meter registering ear splitting

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Speaker 1: decibels in preparation for this game. And not only do

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Speaker 1: sports fans have UC in Utah football tonight, but we

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Speaker 1: have Game seven of the World Series between the visiting

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles Dodgers and the Toronto Blue Jays colliding in

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Speaker 1: the winner take all game at Toronto's Rogers Center. I'm

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Speaker 1: told that the US audience has been hitting the snooze button,

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Speaker 1: but in Canada and Japan, viewership has been a global

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Speaker 1: success for Major League Baseball and last night's Game six

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Speaker 1: was must see TV. It's the Los Angeles Dodgers pulled

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Speaker 1: of the ninth, Alejandro Kirk, the Blue Jays catcher, gets

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Speaker 1: and then Dodgers manager Dave Roberts, as if he was

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Speaker 1: Ernie Clement pops out to Freddie Freeman on the first pitch,

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Speaker 1: Game over. Did you watch? I did, Must see TV?

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Speaker 1: But it sets up a winner take all Game seven tonight. Wow,

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Speaker 1: what a night you see football? In Game seven of

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Speaker 1: the World Series. And we'll get into some Bengals conversation

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Speaker 1: after we take this break, because tomorrow dare we say

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Speaker 1: it a must win game for your Cincinnati Bengals. To

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Speaker 1: But if they can manage to claw, kick, fights, scratch

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Speaker 1: to get the four and five at their bye week,

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Speaker 1: maybe they're still hope. But what I want to know

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Speaker 1: is what did last week's game do to you as

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Speaker 1: that includes the host of sports talk on seven hundred

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Speaker 1: WLW during the week, the incomparable Lance McAllister. Hey, if

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Speaker 1: you want to dial into the show, it's easy. Five one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 1: the hour Bruce Kozerski, Bengals legend. He's going to join

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Speaker 1: game Sports Talk from five thirty to eight thirty. That's tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: did you watch the World Series last night? Game six?

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Speaker 1: And what did the Bengals loss do to you? After

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Speaker 1: they fell to the New York Jets last Sunday five one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 1: hundred WLW. Welcome back to sports talk here on seven

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Speaker 1: hundred WLW with your host Chick Ludwig. And before we

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Speaker 1: Lance McAllister's permission to read his blog post from seven

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Speaker 1: It made me wonder if I'm doing this wrong. I

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Speaker 1: the potential mid December return of Burrow. Then Sunday happened.

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Speaker 1: I felt cuss out loud, angry Sunday night. I asked

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Speaker 1: The team lacks enough talent. It's not a team as

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Speaker 1: basic of NFL exercises. Words like accountability are thrown around weekly,

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. That doesn't make me sad, it makes me furious.

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Speaker 1: crinkled from so much use. Yes, they've lost five of six,

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Speaker 1: talk about them, I'll take your calls about them. But

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Speaker 1: How about you? I was absolutely numb. I was broadcasting

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Speaker 1: Dennis how are you doing tonight?

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Speaker 3: How you doing?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 1: Awesome?

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Speaker 3: Brother?

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Speaker 4: How are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Fantastic?

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Speaker 5: Hey? The guy who spot on Lance's spot on everything

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Speaker 5: took the family out once a year, we'll go to

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Speaker 5: the Bengals game, go all out. I dropped a pretty

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Speaker 5: good coin on this game. Family of five. My son,

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Speaker 4: Why are they letting them go? I'm like, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: So it's hardening, man, it's disheartening as a Bengal fan.

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Speaker 5: Been doing this stuff for forty fifty years now, it's like,

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 1: And Dennis, what hurt What hurt me most of all

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Speaker 1: Was so many Bengals emagends and alumni back for that game.

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Speaker 1: Oh so anyway, hey, thank you so much. All right,

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Speaker 1: hey you bet, let's go out to Kevin in Columbus,

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Speaker 3: You know that, and we must be setting some kind

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Speaker 1: Yeah, even the Jets. I was happy as an Ohio

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Speaker 1: And then four years with the Green Bay Packers. They

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Speaker 1: You know how this league is, Kevin, You know how

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Speaker 1: this league is at Owen seven. The league wants that

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Speaker 1: It's any given Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Yep, Hey, can I say one more thing? And you're

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Speaker 3: saying this about the Bengals, it's the same with the

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Speaker 6: Season, you know, oh yeah, yo.

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Speaker 3: They have hope and they all were crushed and it's

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Speaker 1: And I wonder if they're not cursed, does it go

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Speaker 1: back to the bo Jackson curse?

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Speaker 3: oh yeah, oh yeah, Oh. I should just do chores

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Speaker 9: Chick let's look get it, let's get it on again.

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Speaker 9: Another another opportunity here. I'm going to be very positive

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Speaker 1: Fantastic And Bruce, tell the listeners where you are. I

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Speaker 9: A sports FLIC fundraiser for Holy Cross High School in Coverington.

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Speaker 9: I'm sitting just opposite the gymnasium in my classroom where

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Speaker 1: That's fantastic. And Bruce, you're teaching the high powered physics

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Speaker 9: kick the ball into the end zone every day. Pun

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Speaker 9: of the ball into the end zone every time. Then

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Speaker 9: then and when you can at least afford the defense

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Speaker 9: to give up the big play, then when you can

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Speaker 9: at least afford it, you know, we turn the ball

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Speaker 9: over and it's it's just not complimentary.

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Speaker 4: But I'm being positive here.

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Speaker 1: I checked, yes, I.

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Speaker 4: Believe this is this is the week where they.

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Speaker 9: Turn it all around, all three phases, get it together,

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Speaker 9: and they play their guts out.

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Speaker 4: At this point, their backs the wall.

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Speaker 9: They cannot lose another game to the Jets and the

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Speaker 9: Bears and expect to compete in this league, even though

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Speaker 9: they have a bye week, because that bye week it's

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Speaker 9: only a week. But if you lose these two going

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Speaker 9: into that bye week, it'll seem like a month.

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Speaker 1: You're absolutely right about that, Bruce Kazerski. And to get

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Speaker 1: to four and five at the bye and then you

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Speaker 1: come out and hey, you go to you go to

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and there's still time, there's there's hope. But three

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Speaker 1: and six, three games under five hundred, man, that's an

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Speaker 1: absolute killer.

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Speaker 9: Well, the problem with losing games you shouldn't lose is

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Speaker 9: that someone in your league, someone in your conference, is

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Speaker 9: pulling away from you. Now Baltimore is getting getting hot

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Speaker 9: again Jackson's back, and they're gonna they're gonna start to compete,

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Speaker 9: you know. So it could be a could be a

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Speaker 9: three team race if we play well enough to compete.

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Speaker 9: If if we lose games we're not supposed to lose,

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Speaker 9: then we're just gonna fall to the wayside, like we

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Speaker 9: we we know we can. And and Cincinnati deserves it.

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Speaker 9: They deserved this winning team. Uh, Joe Flock was busted

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Speaker 9: his butt. The offense played well.

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Speaker 4: Enough to win. Defense should step it up this week.

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Speaker 4: And I think they know that. I trust that they

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Speaker 4: know that.

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Speaker 1: And protecting your home so faive, yeah, and protecting your

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Speaker 1: home field. Man, you got to win at home. And

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Speaker 1: to lose that home game to the Jets just uh,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, you're right, Bruce. Let's stay positive and bring

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Speaker 1: some fans out to the wings and rings.

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Speaker 9: Total busted experience, A total busted experience with the Ring

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Speaker 9: of Honor induction. Two great players and and uh they

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Speaker 9: have a big league at the end, you know.

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Speaker 4: And and to lay.

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Speaker 9: The egg down the stretch of the fourth quarter. And

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Speaker 9: as well as the offensive player you harped on this

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Speaker 9: at the in the post game last year last week

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Speaker 9: is as well as the offense played when the defense

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Speaker 9: was struggling. At the end, they couldn't get a first down,

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Speaker 9: maybe one first down and the game is over. But

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Speaker 9: you can't put that game on the offense.

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Speaker 1: And I was traveled, you were traveling by the You know,

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Speaker 1: you leave your seat with a lead and by the

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Speaker 1: time you get to your car, they're, uh, they're trailing.

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Speaker 9: I left my seat with a fourteen point lead with

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Speaker 9: ten and ten mins thirty seconds remaining of the game.

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Speaker 9: By time I got to my my truck, they were

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Speaker 9: losing by one.

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Speaker 6: I couldn't believe it.

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Speaker 1: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I heard the stadium, heard the stadium grown,

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Speaker 9: and then I heard it roar, and then I heard

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Speaker 9: them grown again.

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Speaker 1: You know, now, Bruce, are you now? Are you a

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Speaker 1: baseball fan? Also? Are you paying attention to the World Series?

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Speaker 9: I love baseball, but I'm really a Reds fan, and

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Speaker 9: they've been out of her for a while. This game

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Speaker 9: is irrelevant to me. Although I'd like the US team

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Speaker 9: to win, I like a team for our country to win.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 9: But Toronto's playing great baseball and and uh, I certainly

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Speaker 9: hope it's a great game, and I don't want it

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Speaker 9: to be another eighteen ing TASCAR like they had in

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Speaker 9: that one game. But yes, certainly a nice clean, a

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Speaker 9: nice clean maybe a ninth inning walk off or something

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Speaker 9: close to the end would be exciting.

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Speaker 1: That'd be awesome. Well, the Cincinnati Reds were the last

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Speaker 1: National League team to go back to back in seventy

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Speaker 1: five and seventy six. I don't want the Dodgers to

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Speaker 1: do it last year and this year, so I'm rooting

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Speaker 1: for the Blue Jays.

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Speaker 9: But man, yeah, and start to finish and start to

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Speaker 9: finish in nineteen.

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Speaker 1: Ninety Yes, yeh, that's exactly right. Wire to wire, Bruce,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for taking time out from your fundraiser

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Speaker 1: tonight at holy Cross High School. Man, great stuff. Appreciate you,

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Speaker 1: Nanks shiit.

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Speaker 4: We'll see you tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Take care. That's Bruce Kazerski, Bengals legend offensive lineman center

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Speaker 1: guard on the nineteen eighty eight Super Bowl team, and

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Speaker 1: all those dudes Munhos Lapham, Kazerski and others were in

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Speaker 1: Canton in June to support the offensive line guru, the

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Speaker 1: one and Only Mouse, Jim Mouse McNally. Hey, you're listening

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Speaker 1: to sports talk on seven hundred WLW Moore. After this

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Speaker 1: break three minutes before the top of the hour news.

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Speaker 1: This is Chick Ludwig Sports Talk on seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 1: We're getting ready for UC and Utah tonight. Band can't wait.

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Speaker 1: The seventeenth ranked Bearcats against the twenty fourth ranked Utah Utes.

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Speaker 1: ESPN College Game Day was in Salt Lake City today.

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Speaker 1: Banned Place was absolutely going insane and you see at

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Speaker 1: seven and one, shooting for its eighth straight victory. U

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Speaker 1: see and BYU are a top the Big twelve standings

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Speaker 1: five to zero. And then there's thirteenth ranked Texas Tech

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Speaker 1: with a thirty six to twenty lead over Kansas State

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Speaker 1: with a four to twenty eight to play in that

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Speaker 1: game in Manhattan, Kansas. So lurking behind b YU and

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Speaker 1: U see the Texas Tech Red Raiders and want to

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Speaker 1: update you on some college football scores here. With three

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Speaker 1: minutes left. In Gainesville, the Georgia Bulldogs have a twenty

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Speaker 1: four to twenty lead over the Florida Gators. Fifth ranked

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Speaker 1: Georgia twenty four to twenty. Number twelve Notre Dame is

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Speaker 1: a twenty five to ten lead over Boston College. They're

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Speaker 1: putting the finishing touches on that. In the closing seconds.

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Speaker 1: Like I just mentioned, Texas Tech thirty six to twenty

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Speaker 1: lead over Kansas State with five minutes and twenty seconds

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Speaker 1: to go. Fifteenth ranked Virginia. The Cavaliers have a twenty

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Speaker 1: four to twenty one lead over the cow Bears out

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Speaker 1: in Berkeley, California Finals. Today, Indiana crushes Maryland on the road,

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Speaker 1: the number two ranked Hoosiers fifty five to ten all

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Speaker 1: over the Maryland Terrapins. The number one Ohio State Buckeyes

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Speaker 1: at home, Ohio Stadium, thirty eight to fourteen winners over

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Speaker 1: Penn State, Texas Man holding off Vanderbilt for a thirty

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Speaker 1: four to thirty one victory. Van Dey scored twenty one

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Speaker 1: points in the fourth quarter and SMU Final in overtime

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Speaker 1: twenty six to twenty over the tenth ranked Miami Hurricanes.

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Speaker 1: Louisville ranked sixteenth, twenty eight to sixteen winners at Virginia Tech,

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Speaker 1: and West Virginia defeats number twenty two Houston in Houston,

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Speaker 1: forty five to forty five to thirty five. West Virginia.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, we're going to go up to Dayton,

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Speaker 1: Ohio and welcome in Hall of Fame. Baseball writer Hal

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Speaker 1: McCoy to talk World Series and Reds when we come back.

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Speaker 1: This is the home of the Reds and the best

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Speaker 1: Bengals coverage. Seven hundred WLW seven nine in the quaint

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Speaker 1: city of Cincinnati, chick Ludwigs, seven hundred W l W.

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Speaker 1: This is sports talk. Joe Waddell is tonight's producer. We're

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Speaker 1: going all the way to nine fifteen and that means

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Speaker 1: three hours and fifteen minutes of fun. And my next guest.

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Speaker 1: I had the honor, pleasure and privilege of working with

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Speaker 1: him for thirty years at the Dayton Daily News. He's

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Speaker 1: in Cooperstown as a Hall of Fame baseball writer and

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Speaker 1: to paraphrase bum Phillips, he may not be the greatest

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Speaker 1: baseball rider in history, but it's sure don't take long

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Speaker 1: to call roll. Welcome to seven hundred WLW once again,

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Speaker 1: Hal McCoy, how are you how?

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Speaker 6: I'm doing great? Check and I hope you are too.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And is there anything more exciting than Game seven?

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Speaker 6: That's the best thing in sports, you know. I was

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Speaker 6: hoping that the Blue Jays would end it in six

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Speaker 6: because I do not want to see the Dodgers win it.

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Speaker 6: But Game seven is just the ultimate in sports, winner

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Speaker 6: take all, do or die all on the line. And

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Speaker 6: what about last night Game six, Must see TV? Absolutely unbelievable.

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Speaker 6: The Dodgers win three to one to force a Game seven,

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Speaker 6: and the way they did it just unbelievable. It was

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Speaker 6: like Dave Roberts, the manager of the Los Angeles Dodgers,

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Speaker 6: an angel touched him on the shoulder and said, put

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Speaker 6: in Tyler Glasgow Glass now, who makes three pitches and

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Speaker 6: gets three outs. Yeah, unbelievable. And he's supposed to start

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Speaker 6: to Game seven. But what a finish to that game.

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Speaker 6: I have never seen any game, let alone a World

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Speaker 6: Series game end up on a double play started by

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Speaker 6: an outfielder. I mean the Blue Jays head Runners on

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Speaker 6: a second and third nobody out. I thought they're gonna

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Speaker 6: at least tie this game. And then first of all,

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Speaker 6: the ball gets stuck under the wall that keeps him

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Speaker 6: from scoring around ground road double and then the line

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Speaker 6: drive to left field and keep her Nanus doubles him

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Speaker 6: off second base to end the game. Just unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Tyler Glass now replaces Roki Sizaki, and three pitches later,

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Speaker 1: the game's over. Ernie Klement pops out to Freddie Freeman

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Speaker 1: on the first pitch. Then Andre's jim Andez steps to

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Speaker 1: the plate after taking a ball, he hits that low

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Speaker 1: line drive to left center Keith Gay Hernandez picks it

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Speaker 1: off and then he has the wherewithal gosh the fire

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Speaker 1: to a covering Miguel Rojas at second base. Bam bam

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Speaker 1: Barger with that double in the ball on a fly

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Speaker 1: hits underneath the wall. Incredible. He leaks too far off

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Speaker 1: second base, tried to get back double play game over

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Speaker 1: three pitches by glass. Now you're right, Hall, I've never

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Speaker 1: seen anything, never seen anything.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Key, Key was so alert. I mean he cuts

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Speaker 6: that ball on the fly and in one motion, in

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Speaker 6: an instant, he throws a double bouncer to second base

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Speaker 6: to double the runner off. I've never seen anything like it.

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Speaker 6: But if you cover baseball long enough, they say every

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Speaker 6: week you see something you've never seen before.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right, almost on a daily basis, if you

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Speaker 1: go to the ballpark, just incredible, and that brings us

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Speaker 1: how to You know, as I'm watching the World Series,

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking of the Cincinnati Reds and man, this is

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Speaker 1: how good you have to be to be one of

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Speaker 1: the final two teams standing.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was very nice and exciting for the Reds

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Speaker 6: to make it to the playoffs, but you know they

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Speaker 6: were the last wild card team and then happen to

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Speaker 6: play the Dodgers, and you were pretty sure that that

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Speaker 6: was as far as they were going to go, because

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Speaker 6: the Dodgers have it all, I mean, all the MVPs

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Speaker 6: they have on that team, all the money they've spent.

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Speaker 6: They are where they should.

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Speaker 1: Be and just looking at gosh, potential free agents here

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Speaker 1: or guys that will become free agents once the World

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Speaker 1: Series is over. We're looking at Miguel Andrew Harr and

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Speaker 1: then the pitchers a Zach Lyttel, Nick Martinez and Emilio

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Speaker 1: put Gone along with Wade Miley. And there's just a

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Speaker 1: lot of tough decisions facing the Cincinnati Reds here because

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Speaker 1: they need hitting and they've got some pitching.

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Speaker 6: Yes, absolutely, it would not be surprising to me if

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Speaker 6: they might dangle Hunter Green out there to or get

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Speaker 6: two or three good prospects. You've gotta love Hunter Green,

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Speaker 6: but he's susceptible to injuries that looks like and you

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Speaker 6: don't know if that's going to continue throughout his career.

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Speaker 6: But he could bring a pretty good haul. But yeah,

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Speaker 6: you're absolutely right. They have a lot of decisions to make,

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Speaker 6: and one of them that I keep harping on is

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Speaker 6: I think they they just got to move Eli Dela

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Speaker 6: Cruz to center field. It just makes too much sense.

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Speaker 6: We all know that he leads the league at errors

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Speaker 6: the last two years at shortstop. I think he would

657
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Speaker 6: make a fantastic center fielder with his arm, with his speed,

658
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Speaker 6: his arm wouldn't be as erratic at centerfield as it is.

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Speaker 6: It's a shortstop, and he got a shortstop coming up,

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Speaker 6: and then Edwin Arroyo, who is very, very good, and

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Speaker 6: I think he was fit nicely in at shortstop. But

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Speaker 6: the only time in my career that the Reds ever

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Speaker 6: asked my opinion of anything was in nineteen ninety when

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Speaker 6: lou Penella took over the team and he asked me

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Speaker 6: what the team needed, and I said it needed a

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Speaker 6: lead off hitter, and I thought, very lark it would

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Speaker 6: be a good choice, and that's what he did, and

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Speaker 6: he thanked me after the season, but I didn't get

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Speaker 6: a share of the World Series money.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh that is awesome, and yeah, think of the

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Speaker 1: ground he can cover out in center field, of his length,

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Speaker 1: his reach, his speed, and it might take some pressure

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Speaker 1: off of him at the plate exactly.

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Speaker 6: I said it was going to be the next thing

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Speaker 6: right out of my mouth. We've been together too long, Hick.

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Speaker 6: I was going to say, absolutely, there's less less pressure

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Speaker 6: playing centerfield than this playing shortstop, and that would I

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Speaker 6: think it would help his off mentally and take his

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Speaker 6: mind off a few things.

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Speaker 4: I agree.

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Speaker 1: And just looking at players with club options, man Austin Hayes,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's a that's a pretty penny there at

683
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Speaker 1: twelve million mutual option, one million dollar buyout, Bran Suiters

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Speaker 1: out there at three million or a two hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars buyout, Scott Barlow six and a half

686
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Speaker 1: million option or a one million dollar buyout. So and

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Speaker 1: then a ton of guys you know, eligible for arbitration.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, man Nick, Yeah, Crawl and his yea yeah.

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Speaker 1: And as lieutenants have a lot of work to do here,

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Speaker 1: Yes they do.

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Speaker 6: It's going to be very interesting to see because, as

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Speaker 6: you mentioned, about about half the roster needs to have

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Speaker 6: some decisions made, so it's going to be interesting to

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Speaker 6: see which way they go. Like I say, they just

695
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Speaker 6: have a lot of things out there to think about.

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Speaker 1: And another thing we have in common. We love Chavez

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Speaker 1: Ravine Dodger Stadium. But the Reds were the last Nation

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Speaker 1: League team to go back to back. How we don't

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Speaker 1: want the Dodgers to do it.

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Speaker 6: No, we don't their last team in the National League

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Speaker 6: to go back to back. Horse the Yankees have done

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Speaker 6: in the American League. But yeah, you and I were

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Speaker 6: part of that when the Rents went out there in

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Speaker 6: nineteen ninety and seventy five and seventy six. They went

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Speaker 6: back to back, last National League team to do it.

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Speaker 6: Just another reason that I'm rooting against the Dodgers tonight.

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Speaker 6: And let's hope that Max Scherzer's got it. You know,

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Speaker 6: he's played on four World Series teams and he has

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Speaker 6: started one other game seven so forty years old, but

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Speaker 6: he's got a lot of moxie. And the Dodgers pitching,

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Speaker 6: I know they're going to see a lot of guys tonight,

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Speaker 6: including shohe Otani, who plays in a higher league than

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Speaker 6: the major leagues. But it should be interesting to see

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Speaker 6: if Sures can hold him down.

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Speaker 1: Now, I know on your Facebook page and the writing

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00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: is still as crisp and as great as ever, Hal,

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Speaker 1: And you mentioned a guy that reaches base nine times,

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Speaker 1: what five intentional walks? You know, a little bit cowardly,

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Speaker 1: Hey man, up, Yes see, if you can't get this

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Speaker 1: cat owl.

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Speaker 6: That's right, that's I would like to see him do

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Speaker 6: something about intentional logs because he can't do it, because

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Speaker 6: they'll still find a way to walk a guy if

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Speaker 6: they want to. But you know, the guy is a superstar,

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Speaker 6: but he doesn't He doesn't hit a home run or

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Speaker 6: get a base at every time. Up just really kind

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Speaker 6: of made me think not so nicely of the Blue

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Speaker 6: Jays for walking him four times in one game.

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Speaker 1: And it's hard to believe Hal McCoy that nineteen ninety five,

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Speaker 1: we were at Chavez Ravine and it was the last

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Speaker 1: series the Reds have the Reds of one and then

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Speaker 1: and then Atlanta happened. Yeah, and then Atlanta happened.

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Speaker 6: Yes, Atlanta happened. Got the general manager Jim uh what

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Speaker 6: was his name at the.

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Speaker 10: Time, Jim Jim Bowden Jim Bowden, Yeah, or as Marty

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Speaker 10: calls him, all the leather Pants had the great idea

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Speaker 10: that they should start all left handers against the Braves.

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Speaker 6: It's the braves were susceptible against left handers. Well it

739
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 6: didn't work. They got blown out, but it wasn't nice.

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Speaker 6: You and I were in Chevez Ravine. That's it's my

741
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 6: favorite ballpark. I mean, it's the third oldest, but they

742
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 6: keep that place so clean you can eat off the floors.

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Speaker 6: It's just unbelievable. But yeah, we were there with the

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Speaker 6: manager Davey Johnson, and uh, they won the game out there,

745
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 6: and but disaster in Atlanta and that's the last time

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Speaker 6: that they have won a postseason series.

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Speaker 1: It really is incredible. And hol just a career. And

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00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: you recently had a birthday? And is it eighty three

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Speaker 1: or eighty five? Eighty five? Eighty five?

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Speaker 4: Wow?

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Speaker 6: Eighty five eighty five and counting?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And what keeps you going?

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Speaker 8: How?

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00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 6: Just life itself? I try to write every day. I

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00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 6: love to write. If I couldn't write, I don't know

756
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 6: what I would do. I would be flipping burgers or something.

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Speaker 6: But that's been my life. And as long as I

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00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 6: can sit down, it's the it's the computer, the laptop

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00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 6: and buzz out a few words. I'm happy. I try

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Speaker 6: to do it every day and that keeps me going.

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Speaker 6: Eighty five but I don't feel like you're over eighty four.

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Speaker 1: That's just wonderful, how and I absolutely mean it. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't take long to call roll for for the baseball

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Speaker 1: writers and Hal McCoy in Cooperstown.

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Speaker 6: Man, I appreciate that, Chris, Urus appreciate that, Chick, and

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Speaker 6: you know, we've been friends for a long time and

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00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 6: we were working buddies. And you are a very talented

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00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 6: guy yourself and do a great job on the radio

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Speaker 6: and a multi talented person. That's what I like.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much, Hal, and hey, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: All the best in Nadine and yourself.

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Speaker 6: Stay well, sir, Thanks Chicken, Thanks thanks for having me on, buddy,

773
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Speaker 6: take care of yourself.

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Speaker 1: You are so welcome to enjoy Game seven tonight. Wow,

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00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,760
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be fun getting me ready?

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Speaker 4: You bet?

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Speaker 6: Yes? Yes?

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Speaker 1: Thanks Hal? All right?

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Speaker 6: Thanks?

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Speaker 1: Hey, do you have a thought about Game seven tonight?

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Speaker 1: Who are you rooting for? I've got my coffee, I've

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Speaker 1: got my computer. All I need is you and it's

783
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Speaker 1: more coffee tonight because there's no water in our building

784
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Speaker 1: this weekend. So man, a lot of java on seven

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Speaker 1: hundred WLW seven, City of Cincinnati, Chick Ludwig seven hundred

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Speaker 1: WLW Sports Talk till nine to fifteen tonight, and then

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Speaker 1: Dan Horde, Tony Pike, and Moeger take over these airwaves

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Speaker 1: for the University of Cincinnati against the U tall Utes

789
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Speaker 1: tonight in a monster Big Twelve game, as the UC

790
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: Bearcats attempt to push their record to eight and one

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00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: with their eighth straight victory, and push their Big Twelve

792
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 1: record to six and zero and staying atop the Big

793
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: Twelve standings and keep Texas Tech at five and one,

794
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 1: ranked thirteenth in the nation. Give them the old Heisman

795
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 1: Troop Trophy stiff arm. But there's BYU there too, and

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00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: you see host BYU later this season. The tenth rank

797
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: Cougar's man it the Big Twelve is shaping up to

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00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: be an awesome for an awesome finish this year. But

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Speaker 1: we mentioned the Reds and appreciate how McCoy joining us,

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00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 1: and I mentioned the free agents Miguel Andrew harr Pitchers,

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00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 1: Zach Lttel, Nick Martinez, Emilio Pagan, Wade Miley. And then

802
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: you've got players with options Austin Hayes twelve million dollar

803
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: option but a one million dollar buyout Brent Souter, left

804
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Speaker 1: handed pitcher we love him, Cincinnati guy a three million

805
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: dollar club option a two hundred and fifty thousand dollars buyout,

806
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: and then right handed pitcher Scott Barlow with a club

807
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Speaker 1: option for six point five million dollars or a one

808
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: million dollar buyout, all with contract options. And then there's

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Speaker 1: the folks who are eligible for arbitration. Right handed pitcher

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Speaker 1: Graham Ashcraft, outfielder Will Benson, infielder outfielder Santiago espinall who

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Speaker 1: got outrighted to Louisville. Outfielder TJ. Friedel, left handed pitcher

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Speaker 1: Nick Lidolo, infielder outfielder Gavin Lux, second baseman Matt McClain,

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Speaker 1: lefty Sam Mall writing, Tony Santition writing, Brady Singer, Spencer Steer,

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Speaker 1: and catcher Tyler Stevenson. So wow uh A lot going

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Speaker 1: on with the Reds, and Nick Krawl says, We've got

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Speaker 1: to improve both aspects of our position players. I think

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Speaker 1: we need to improve across the board. Offensively, we had

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Speaker 1: guys that had down years. Some of it's going to

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Speaker 1: be internal, some of it might be bringing somebody in

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00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: from the outside. We did a good job with defensive efficiency,

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Speaker 1: but our defensive range and everything could be better across

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Speaker 1: the board. And with closer Emelio Pegan and the swingman there,

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Speaker 1: Nick Martinez being free agents, replacing them in the bullpen

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Speaker 1: has got to be a priority. And then who might

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Speaker 1: the Reds be willing to trade? Like Hal mentioned, the

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Speaker 1: big chip is Hunter Green. He has three years and

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Speaker 1: about forty two million left on a six year contract

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Speaker 1: through twenty twenty eight, with a club option for twenty nine.

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Speaker 1: Green could net the best return for the Cincinnati Reds

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Speaker 1: to fill its needs elsewhere? Is it okay if I dream,

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Speaker 1: just a little bit, dream of Kyle Schwarber in a

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati Reds uniform. Middletown High School, Indiana University, played for

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Speaker 1: the Chicago Cubs, Washington Nationals, the Red Sox, and now

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Speaker 1: at the Phillies. His four year, seventy nine million dollar

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Speaker 1: contract runs out, he becomes a free agent. The Reds

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Speaker 1: could use that twenty one million that they paid Nick

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Speaker 1: Martinez last year for some starting money in an attempt

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Speaker 1: to get Kyle Schwarber here. With his signing set this

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Speaker 1: franchise in this city on its ear with excitement. I think,

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Speaker 1: so we've reached the bottom of the hour break when

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Speaker 1: we come back, Journalist, broadcaster, author, all around great guy.

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Speaker 1: Terrence Moore from Atlanta is next. This is Chick Ludwig

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Speaker 1: Sports Talk seven hundred WLW seven eight in the Queen

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Speaker 1: City of Cincinnati. This is Chick Ludwig and it's sports Talk.

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Speaker 1: My next guest is a media superstar, journalist, broadcaster, author,

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Speaker 1: digital creator from the Cincinnati Choir to San Francisco to

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Speaker 1: the Atlanta Journal Constitution. His writing is absolutely brilliant and

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Speaker 1: it all started in Oxford at Miami University. We welcome

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Speaker 1: in from Atlanta our good friend Terrence More. Terrence, how

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Speaker 1: are you sir?

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, Chick, I want to hire you

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Speaker 3: as my PR guy. But even though you didn't go

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Speaker 3: to the great Miami, Ohio, but yeah, you're a great

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Speaker 3: You're great anyway.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much. And when you hear the

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Speaker 1: ads for Miami University where today's students become tomorrow's leaders,

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Speaker 1: I'll bet you've got a big smile on your face.

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Speaker 3: Oh, no question about it, you know. And for people

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Speaker 3: are more ceo of fortune, five hundred companies with Miami,

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Speaker 3: Ohio undergraduate degrees than any other college. And I can

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Speaker 3: go on and on and on, but I won't.

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Speaker 4: I won't.

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Speaker 1: Well, it was awesome having you really back in Ohio,

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Speaker 1: back in Southwest Ohio for a book signing, and just

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Speaker 1: real hankeron dot com and now recently hear my Big

868
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: Redmachine dot com. Terrence, Can you talk about your Big

869
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: Red Machine?

870
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 3: Yeah? You know, you know this thing is it's a

871
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 3: miracle in so many ways of writing this book, and

872
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 3: I always tell people I get chills talking about it,

873
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 3: and I get chills just thinking about everything I went through.

874
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 3: But essentially it's about my journey from being a diehard

875
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 3: Big Red Machine fan to finally meeting my heroes and

876
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 3: chick I know you've gone through the same thing being

877
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 3: an Ohio guy. Is that you know a lot of

878
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 3: times it doesn't measure up to what you expected.

879
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 4: For me, for the most.

880
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 3: Part, it did, and it all began and ended with

881
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 3: Pete Rose, a long time favorite player. The one thing

882
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 3: I will say this real quick too, is I grew

883
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 3: up in South in Indiana as a young guy. You know,

884
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 3: Pump and the University of Notre Dame, and my dad

885
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 3: was an AT ANDT supervisor who got transferred to Cincinnati

886
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 3: in sixty eight. And I bring that up because there's

887
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 3: no such thing as coincidence. In my world. Everything is spiritual.

888
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 3: The next year of sixty nine, that was the first

889
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 3: official year of the Big Reversine, So Chick, I always

890
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 3: tell people the Big Reversine started because my family came

891
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 3: here from Indiana. I think where it was.

892
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 1: That is fantastic and gosh, one of the highlights of

893
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:43,800
Speaker 1: my career. Four months to the day prior to Pete

894
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 1: Rose's death, I'm invited back to Western Hills Country Club

895
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 1: is the MC of their stag honoring Pete, and I

896
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: got to introduce him, and then we sat on a

897
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 1: stage together and I guided him through a fifty four

898
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 1: photolide show of his life. And what an evening. What

899
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 1: an evening with Pete?

900
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 3: Well, you know you and I saw a different side

901
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,919
Speaker 3: of Pete. I have got nothing bad to say about

902
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 3: Pete Rose. He was so good to me. As a

903
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 3: matter of fact, Just to tell you how these things

904
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 3: work as far as spiritually as I look at it.

905
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 3: I graduated from Miami University in May of nineteen seventy eight.

906
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 3: A week later, I'm working full time at since An

907
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 3: Enquirer And the very first interview I ever did in

908
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 3: my entire life as a professional sports journalist that now

909
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 3: has spanned to almost fifty years was with Pete Rose,

910
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 3: the all time favorite player. As a matter of fact,

911
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 3: a feo months after that interview, one of the photographers

912
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 3: at the Inquirer dropped the Manila ovelope on my desk

913
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 3: and guess what it was. It was a picture of

914
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 3: me during my first interview with Pete Rose, which is

915
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 3: the cover.

916
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 1: Of the book. Oh that is absolutely fantastic and so

917
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 1: really your experience here with the Cincinnati Reds. And like

918
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: the book says, my Big Red Machine and hey, just gosh,

919
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 1: that's the website. Check it out, buy the book. It's fantastic,

920
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: Mybigredmachine dot com. And one thing that I don't think

921
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:19,959
Speaker 1: a lot of people know about you, Terrence. And oh,

922
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: by the way, next year is our thirtieth anniversary at

923
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: the nineteen ninety six Atlanta Games, the centennial Olympic Games

924
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: in Atlanta.

925
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 3: What a time you and I had doing that, Man,

926
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 3: What a.

927
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 1: Month at Emory, Yeah, a month at Emory University. Absolutely

928
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 1: loved it and I'll just never forget that unbelievable experience.

929
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, you said thirty years. That means that we've been

930
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 3: around a while.

931
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, And being a nineteen seventy six graduate of

932
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: the Ohio State University and I came up through the

933
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: Gosha a weekly in Lebanon, then a daily in suburban Cleveland,

934
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 1: and then thirty years at the Dayton Daily News. I'm

935
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: approaching fifty years in the media really like next June.

936
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 1: So you're right, we've been around a long time.

937
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 3: Terrence, Well, he messed in the Ohio State University. You know,

938
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 3: the winning is coach in the history of Ohio State,

939
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 3: and some guy named Woody Hayes BI National Championships and

940
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 3: you got this big start at Mine of Ohio. Now

941
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 3: read I'm telling the story a little bit off my

942
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:30,439
Speaker 3: current book. I'm going to go back to my middle book,

943
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 3: Red brig Magic Woody Hayes. As everybody out there probably knows,

944
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 3: he ended his career ended December nineteen seventy eight when

945
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 3: he slugged Charlie Bowman of Clemson on the sidelines of

946
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 3: the Gator Bowl Game. Yes, and he vanished for six

947
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 3: months after that from a media standpoint, and chick guess

948
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 3: it was the first person to interview Oh, Woody Hayes

949
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 3: six months later.

950
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 1: Oh it's Terrence More.

951
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you very much.

952
00:59:57,800 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 1: That is awesome.

953
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 3: Here's something oh too, I gotta tell you. Okay, this

954
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 3: guy named Kim Griffrey Jr. I guess who wrote the

955
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:06,959
Speaker 3: first story about him when he was eight years old?

956
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 4: Was it you?

957
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 3: I mean, I could go on. Oh right, you just

958
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 3: want that.

959
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 1: Out there, Terrence. One thing that a lot of folks

960
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 1: don't know about you. You launched the career of Stephen A. Smith.

961
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 1: Tell us that story.

962
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 3: Well, I don't think I launched it, but I was.

963
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 3: I was a part of it. I mean he he

964
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 3: got to start a lot of people would say Winston Salem,

965
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 3: some would say Philadelphia inquire Actually he got to start

966
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 3: as an intern at the Cincinnati Inquirer. Not since I

967
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 3: inquired I was people it was at the Atlanta General Constitution.

968
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 3: I left that out because after leaving the Assistant Inquirer

969
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 3: for three years, I worked at the San Francisco Examiner

970
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 3: for five and then spent twenty five years at the

971
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 3: Landa General Constitution and one of the biggest bills I had,

972
01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 3: they often put me in charge of at least to

973
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 3: help out with interns. And one was a guy by

974
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 3: the name of Steve Smith. And believe it or not, Chick,

975
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 3: that's his real name, Steve Smith.

976
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: Yes, that's wild. It's just incredible and one of the

977
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 1: one of the great afternoons I got to spend in Oxford, Ohio,

978
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 1: in the home and the basement of Wilbur Charles U

979
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 1: Bank we Weave you Bank. And that was just just

980
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 1: awesome because he was getting honored, gosh, in New York

981
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 1: City with an award. My boss, Ralph Morrow, sent me there.

982
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 1: I spent an afternoon with him. And oh, he's got

983
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 1: Peley's jersey encased in glass up on his wall, and

984
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 1: you know, he opens up a file cabinet, pulls out uh,

985
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's game plan nineteen sixty one. Oh my gosh,

986
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 1: just uh. And he's got a pointer like like a

987
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 1: you know, the nuns head with the rubber tip on

988
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 1: the end, and he's going over all the members. He's

989
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 1: got all the members of the Pro Football Hall of

990
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 1: Fame up on like an outside wall in his basement,

991
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 1: and you know, he's pointing at each one saying, oh,

992
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 1: he had great feet, great hands, and and then he

993
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 1: had a projector. He had a projector on like an

994
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 1: ottoman and he had the you know, the screen pulled

995
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 1: down so that he could watch old film just weep.

996
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 1: He was unbelievable.

997
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 3: Well, as you know, chick, what another member of the

998
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,479
Speaker 3: creditle we view Bank the winningest coach of the West.

999
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 3: Could consider it the greatest game ever played between the

1000
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 3: Giants and the coach Beck in the nineteen fifties, and

1001
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 3: of course the biggest upset in the history of the

1002
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 3: Super Bowl. Super Bowl three. We viewed Bank from Mount Ohio.

1003
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,439
Speaker 3: But it goes further than that. And like you just said,

1004
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 3: those old guys, those old cradle guys had a tendency

1005
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 3: to come back to Oxford, Ohio one way or the other.

1006
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 3: I'll tell you this quick Paul Brown story. Paul Brown.

1007
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 3: Of course everybody knows who's who Paul Brown is. But

1008
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 3: when I worked assistant inquire Brown's autobiography came out in

1009
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 3: nineteen seventy nine, they're playing the Browns, who he hated

1010
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 3: at that point because of the way he left the

1011
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 3: Browns back in the sixties. And the columnist for US

1012
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 3: back then named Mark Purty wrote this column and as

1013
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 3: Lee said that Paul Brown watched this game They're playing

1014
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 3: the Browns in Cleveland. When his book came out. He said,

1015
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 3: Paul Brown watched the game with misty eyes. Paul Brown

1016
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 3: calls assistant inquirer and gets Mark on the phone and says,

1017
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 3: I have never had missy eyes in my life. Now

1018
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 3: here's why I'm telling you the story. Okay, okay. So

1019
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 3: it's years later, nineteen eighty three eighty four. Somewhere in there,

1020
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 3: Miami is playing the last game ever at Miami Field,

1021
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 3: which was the second oldest color football stadium in the

1022
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 3: country at the time. Last game they beat Central Michigan

1023
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 3: twenty three to nothing. Perfect day if you were a

1024
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 3: rich Red Hawk fans. So it's after the game and

1025
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 3: I walked back to the stadium and I see these

1026
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 3: two figures in the distance and is Paul Brown and

1027
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 3: his wife Mary. And I kind of go around behind

1028
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 3: him and I approached Paul Brown and Paul Brown is

1029
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 3: standing there with tears coming down his face. Can you

1030
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 3: imagine that Paul Brown and tears? And I said, I said, Paul,

1031
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 3: I must have been an emotional time for you watching

1032
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 3: this last game at Mine Skills, and he and his

1033
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 3: wife quickly got a tissue and he's wiping it and

1034
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 3: he said, oh, no, no, it was just just another game,

1035
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 3: just another game. And then Mary says, oh he was

1036
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 3: crying that tire. Yes, and and I merely thought back

1037
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 3: to what he told Mark party. Uh and irity, I've

1038
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 3: never been this cid in my life.

1039
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 1: Oh, that is fantastic. Now I do some umpiring for

1040
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 1: girls fast pitch softball and some baseball, and a guy

1041
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 1: comes up to me a year or so ago at

1042
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 1: a backstop and said, Hey, are you the guy that

1043
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 1: coined the phrase the world's largest living room for Mallette Hall?

1044
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 1: And I said, yeah, that's me. I will be in

1045
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 1: tears when Mallette Hall comes down. I love the place.

1046
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 3: Well it's coming down, and uh, pretty similar for people

1047
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 3: who may not know. They're building a new arena right

1048
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 3: down Cookfield and wide open spaces and also a hotel

1049
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 3: there and check. You know. This doesn't have anything to

1050
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 3: do with with Malett, but has to do with Miami Sports.

1051
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 3: When I was in Cincinnati this week, I had a

1052
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 3: fabulous time with Tug Martin, our great football coach, and

1053
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 3: Tug Martin this guy. I would contend that he has

1054
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 3: done the greatest job of any coach in America this year.

1055
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 3: Consider this, Miami will Little Mina, Ohio is a Mid

1056
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 3: American conference school. Okay, we're in the europe NIL and

1057
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 3: also transfer portal. And every year they got to reload,

1058
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 3: they lose these players to the bigger schools. And every

1059
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 3: year he has got Miami contending for the MAC championship.

1060
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 3: Is not winning it. Right now, they're undefeated in the MAC.

1061
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 3: They won five straight with a totally new offense. And

1062
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 3: this guy gets not as much credit as he should get.

1063
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 1: You're exactly right, Terrence and Wild I've got you your

1064
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 1: Terrence more were Gosh, former sports columnist at the Atlanta

1065
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 1: Journal Constitution, where he spent twenty five years. Incredible, the

1066
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 1: real Hank Aaron. Yeah, you know, I was born in

1067
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 1: nineteen fifty four. I got to see Roberto Clemente play

1068
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 1: at Crosley Field. I fell in love with him number

1069
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 1: twenty one. But that that National League, man, how tough

1070
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 1: was it to make to make that a starting lineup?

1071
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 1: You know, with Frank Robinson and Willie Mays and Henry

1072
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 1: Aaron and Roberto Clemente. Just just a phenomenal, But your

1073
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 1: relationship to the great great Henry Aaron, it was unbelievable.

1074
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 3: I I was closer to Hank than any other reporter ever.

1075
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 3: Was a four year relationship, and it was because he

1076
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 3: trusted me so much. And I was like to tell

1077
01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 3: this first story when we first met, and I'll give

1078
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 3: you the sword version of this. I was working at

1079
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 3: the Sampston stood Examiner. I was writing this story in

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Speaker 3: nineteen eighty two on Blacks and Baseball, and I talked

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Speaker 3: about an awful lot and Hank Aaron book and also

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01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 3: in the latest book, My Big Red Machine, and both

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Speaker 3: Hank Aaron and Joe Morgan, who I was also very

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01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 3: close to, they were convinced back in eighty two that

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01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 3: Major League Baseball was purposely fasing out African American players. Again, chick,

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01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 3: this is in eighty two. They both told me in

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01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty two that after the turn of the century

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01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 3: that the number of the percentage of African Americans in

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01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 3: baseball would be less than ten percent on purpose. And

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01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:38,440
Speaker 3: guess what, it's less than ten percent. But people want

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01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 3: to read more about I've got it in the books,

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Speaker 3: both of those books. But here's why I'm bringing this up.

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Speaker 3: When I first met Hank Aaron, he was the only

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Speaker 3: African American executive in baseball at the time in nineteen

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Speaker 3: eighty two, caught him up did in an interview with him.

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Speaker 3: I'm scared to death.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 3: We hit it off off the bat. I'm talking to

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Speaker 3: him on the phone. I'm working at the San Franisco

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Speaker 3: Examiner at the time, and so, uh, when I finished

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Speaker 3: the interview, and I'm listening to my tape recording, and Hank,

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Speaker 3: being from the South, sometimes you have sendency to say

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Speaker 3: some things. I mean, just for a phrases that might

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01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 3: be a little bit off that if you if you didn't,

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01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 3: I didn't quite understand him. I mean, you can misinterpret

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Speaker 3: what he's what's trying to say. So I called called

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Speaker 3: me back and I said, Hank, you said blah blah

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01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 3: blah blah blah blah. I said, did you mean it

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01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 3: this way or can you tell me exactly what you

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01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 3: what you meant? He said, oh, thanks, thanks, thanks for

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Speaker 3: calling me back. And I remember now this is this

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01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:32,919
Speaker 3: is when we first met.

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Speaker 4: And then after we.

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Speaker 3: Finished with that, he said, you know what he said,

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Speaker 3: In all my years, I have never had a reporter

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Speaker 3: do this. He said, I really appreciate this, and that's

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01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 3: how we hit it off and check. I know you

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01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 3: can relate to that because a lot of times we

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01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 3: have reporters, you know, they'll just run with stuff and

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Speaker 3: they know that, man, it might be a little bit

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Speaker 3: out of context, as opposed to taking that time to

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Speaker 3: go back to the individual and just say that is

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Speaker 3: this what you meant to say? Or I just need

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Speaker 3: a clarification.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, that such great, really great stuff, great advice,

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Speaker 1: and I know that you're a gosh a mentor to

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Speaker 1: so many young journalists at Miami and elsewhere. Terrence Moore,

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Speaker 1: and just want to relate one quick story with you.

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Speaker 1: At the Dayton Daily News, I was shipped to Central

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Speaker 1: State to interview Don King. Okay, he was getting an

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01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 1: honorary degree, and I asked, m Don, what's your message

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01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 1: to the marauders today, all the students here? And he said,

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01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 1: kick the door down. In other words, when you go

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Speaker 1: to an interview, you are so prepared that they can't

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01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 1: turn you down. You're gonna, you know, kick that door down.

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Speaker 1: And I'll never forget that from Don King.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'll give you my piece of advice. I tell

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01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 3: my students all the time. And as you say, I

1139
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 3: was a visiting professor at Miami for seven years, and

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01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 3: once I started writing books, I need to be closer

1141
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 3: to here. So now I've been a visiting professor here

1142
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 3: at Georgia State now for the last two or three years.

1143
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 3: One of the things I like to tell my students

1144
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 3: I give him the sports analogy of Vince Lombardi. And

1145
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 3: Vince Lombardi used to say run to daylight. And I

1146
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 3: would say that he didn't tell his running backs to

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01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 3: trot the daylight or to walk to the light. Run

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01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 3: the daylight. And I say that this to say that

1149
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:36,719
Speaker 3: when you see an opening for anything in your life

1150
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 3: that might be something that can help you, don't not

1151
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 3: well take advantage of it, to sprint through that thing

1152
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 3: like crazy and see what happens, because if you don't sprint,

1153
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 3: you get knocked down, and you get tackled, you get sacked.

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01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:53,680
Speaker 1: And it can be very very ugly. This has been

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01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:56,639
Speaker 1: an absolute joy, Terrence Moore, and I want to thank

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01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:00,200
Speaker 1: you and thank your brother Dennis. Maybe he can be

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01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 1: my pr guy.

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01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 6: Oh.

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Speaker 3: I want to tell you, hey, I was getting in

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01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 3: with that chick my brother dinners down in Mount Healthy

1161
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 3: or up in Mount Healthy, depending on where your listeners are.

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01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:13,480
Speaker 3: He's listening right now. He listens to you every Saturday.

1163
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 3: And when I told him that I was going to

1164
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 3: be on with the Great Tickster, you got a big smiles, says,

1165
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 3: oh you gotta be kissed me.

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01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, I mean.

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Speaker 3: All I can talk about.

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Speaker 1: Well, Terrence, I've been one to have you on for

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01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:27,680
Speaker 1: a long time. Thank you so much for carving out

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01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 1: some time. You're everywhere. I love it, love reading your

1171
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 1: stuff on Facebook and really appreciate your time tonight, and

1172
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 1: all the best to you and your family.

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01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:39,519
Speaker 3: Thank you for speaking of love, love and honor to

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01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:41,760
Speaker 3: Miami our college, Oden.

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01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:46,799
Speaker 1: Grand Amen to that love and honor where today's students

1176
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 1: become tomorrow's leaders. All right, indeed, thanks so much, Terrence,

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Speaker 1: Safe travels, brother, Thank you. Sports Talk with Chick Ludwig

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Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 4: ME She just.

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Speaker 1: Eight o nine in the Queen City of Cincinnati. Chicklog Wig,

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01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 1: seven hundred w l W. This is sports talk. We're

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01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 1: going all the way to nine fifteen tonight, and then

1183
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 1: you see football takes over these airwaves. The seventeenth rank

1184
01:12:56,920 --> 01:13:01,799
Speaker 1: Bearcats collide in Salt Fake City, Utah with the Utah

1185
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 1: uch rank number twenty four in the nation. You can

1186
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 1: hear the game right here on seven hundred WLW with

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01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:12,799
Speaker 1: the all the covered starting at nine fifteen Dan Hord,

1188
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 1: Tony Pike, Moeger an hour pregame show and then kickoff

1189
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 1: from Rice Echeles Stadium at ten fifteen tonight, two hours down,

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01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 1: one to go. Really appreciate Bruce Kozerski joining us at

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Speaker 1: the bottom of the six o'clock hour. Bengals legend. Bruce

1192
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 1: and I will be co hosting Bengals postgame Sports Talk

1193
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 1: tomorrow five thirty to eight thirty after the Bengals and

1194
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 1: Bears game, and we will be live at the Wings

1195
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 1: and Rings, Oakley tomorrow from five thirty to eight thirty.

1196
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 1: Would love to see you come on out and let's

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Speaker 1: celebrate a Bengals victory. So Bruce Kozerski in that first hour.

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01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 1: Then Hal McCoy joined US Hall of Fame Baseball writer

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Speaker 1: talking Reds and the World Series. Nothing beats Game seven

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01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:14,719
Speaker 1: and man, it's on right now eight o'clock start Game

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01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 1: seven at the Rogers Center, Toronto Blue Jays against the

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01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Dodgers, and we're rooting for the Blue Jays

1203
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 1: because the Cincinnati Reads were the last National League team

1204
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:32,040
Speaker 1: to win back to back World Series championships nineteen seventy

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01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:35,759
Speaker 1: five nineteen seventy six, and I don't want the Dodgers

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01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:38,599
Speaker 1: to do it tonight because they won it last year.

1207
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:44,679
Speaker 1: Go Blue Jays. And then Terrence Moore joined us. Wow,

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01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 1: that is some of the most fun I've had in

1209
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:54,960
Speaker 1: a long time. Just tremendous, great stories and his books

1210
01:14:54,960 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 1: are award winning. Check them out. Just Google up Terrence T. E.

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01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 1: R E n C. E. Moore, m R E. My

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01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 1: Big Redmachine dot Com, The Real Hank Aaron and RedBrick

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01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 1: Magic all about the cradle of coaches at Miami University

1214
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 1: and college basketball is getting ready to start. Man, I'm

1215
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:31,680
Speaker 1: not ready yet, but here it comes. And there's just

1216
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 1: so many new players on so many teams. Man, you

1217
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 1: need you need a scorecard, definitely to check out all

1218
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 1: the new players. So I'm eager to listen to Dan

1219
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:48,679
Speaker 1: Horde call the UC Bearcats, and I'm excited to listen

1220
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:53,520
Speaker 1: to Xavier University with their new head coach, Richard Patino

1221
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 1: and get to know some of these players. And I'll

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01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 1: give another shout out here to Miami, the University and

1223
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:06,600
Speaker 1: the Men of Steel head coach Travis Steel. In a

1224
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:12,639
Speaker 1: day and age when transfers the transfer portal Nil, It's

1225
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 1: absolutely crazy with all the new players. Miami returns ten

1226
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 1: players from last year's squad, and Travis Steel, in his

1227
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 1: fourth year, is the head men's basketball coach coming off

1228
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 1: the most wins in school history. He begins his fourth

1229
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Speaker 1: year at the helm of the program after finishing his

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Speaker 1: third season with a twenty five and nine record, fourteen

1231
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Speaker 1: and four in the Mid American Conference. So ten players return,

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01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 1: but I want to circle back here with the Cincinnati

1233
01:16:53,840 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 1: Bengals and so many fans up in arms over this team.

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01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 1: Start at three and five, Upset with head coach Zach Taylor,

1235
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:12,920
Speaker 1: upset with the meltdown against the New York Jets in

1236
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 1: a thirty nine to thirty eight loss last Sunday on

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01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:22,599
Speaker 1: a Ring of Honor Day. Then I come across a

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01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 1: Facebook post by the great Jim McNally, offensive line coach

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01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:40,600
Speaker 1: the extraordinary Back In June, he was honored at the

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Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame, one of fifteen recipients of

1241
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:50,639
Speaker 1: these awards for excellence given out by the Pro Football

1242
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame for his great work as the Bengals

1243
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Speaker 1: offensive line coach. And I want to read you his

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01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 1: post on Facebook and and he wrote this for Cincinnati

1245
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:10,719
Speaker 1: Bengal followers. I worked for them, and this is Jim

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01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 1: Mouse McNally. I worked for them fifteen years full time,

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01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 1: in ten years part time. That's twenty five years. The

1248
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 1: fans are getting on edge. The present team is built

1249
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 1: on perhaps the best one to two quarterback playing Joe Burrow,

1250
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:34,920
Speaker 1: with Jamar Chase, who is the best receiver hands down

1251
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 1: in the league, and t Higgins another great receiver. They

1252
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 1: have a new great offensive line coach in Scott Peters.

1253
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:48,640
Speaker 1: After Joe got hurt, their identity fell into no man's land.

1254
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:53,639
Speaker 1: Then here comes Joe Flacco. It had taken Scott a

1255
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 1: full spring and fall to toughen up the offensive line

1256
01:18:57,160 --> 01:19:00,439
Speaker 1: since he has two rookies at guard, and he had

1257
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:05,720
Speaker 1: to change their mentality, especially on the run game. The

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01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 1: last few weeks they have run for one hundred and

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Speaker 1: forty and one hundred and seventy yards and beat the Steelers,

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01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 1: who lead the division. And Jim says, quit bashing the

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01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 1: ownership and personnel department. Is no one else has a Burrow,

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01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 1: Chase and Higgins. They cost and he's got three dollars

1263
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:31,080
Speaker 1: signs that's big money. True, the defense is spotty and

1264
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 1: an issue to date. You can blame coaching, scouting, or

1265
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:38,600
Speaker 1: just playing bad luck. As they fired their former defensive

1266
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 1: coordinator who happens to be Loot and Rumo, who is

1267
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 1: now leading the Colts to an excellent season. How many

1268
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 1: years have the Bills fans bashed their front office and coaches.

1269
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 1: They've done it for years. Now they've got Josh Allen.

1270
01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:57,639
Speaker 1: He makes all three phases survive even if the defense

1271
01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 1: or special teams has an average or poor game. What

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01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 1: if Josh got hurt just like Joe b did, would

1273
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 1: the Bills be as good? You know the answer. Every

1274
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 1: team has haters in the stands or on the couch.

1275
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:18,720
Speaker 1: All thirty two have issues. Enjoy the games and be

1276
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:25,640
Speaker 1: glad your city has a team. And on one of

1277
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 1: the comments, Jim McNally posts a reply to a fan.

1278
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 1: He says, it's all true. Everybody wants to fire everybody

1279
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:39,719
Speaker 1: in the NFL. In college, securing the players has become

1280
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 1: ninety percent of the job, not coaching, not scheme. In

1281
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 1: the free agency. In the NFL, and the portal nil

1282
01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:50,559
Speaker 1: in College has put the onus on getting the players,

1283
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 1: not how well you coach them, So the word coach

1284
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 1: has little meaning in this day and age. Was Belichick

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01:20:57,160 --> 01:20:59,680
Speaker 1: a great coach in New England for twenty years? Or

1286
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 1: was it's Tom Brady? I coached for the love of developing,

1287
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:09,439
Speaker 1: refined and update running and pass blocking techniques, But now

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01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 1: that means little in this day and age. Of securing

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01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:17,560
Speaker 1: the right players, especially the quarterback, and he put the

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Speaker 1: QB in all caps. That is mouse McNally. Your reaction

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Speaker 1: when we return. This is Chick Ludwig Sports Talk seven

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Speaker 1: hundred WLW and the numbers to call five one, three,

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Speaker 1: seven four nine, seven thousand, one, eight hundred the big one.

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Speaker 1: The chicks are with you till nine to fifteen tonight

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Speaker 1: on seven hundred WLW, eight twenty two in the Queen

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Speaker 1: City of Cincinnati. Chick Ludwig, seven hundred WLW. This is

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Speaker 1: sports talk like Eric Carmen and the Raspberries were going

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Speaker 1: all the way to nine to fifteen tonight, and then

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Speaker 1: you see football takes over these airwaves with Dan Horde,

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Speaker 1: Tony Pike, and Moeger calling all the action from rice

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Speaker 1: echos Stadium in Salt Lake City. It's the seventeenth ranked

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Speaker 1: Bearcats against the twenty fourth ranked Utah Utes. And what

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Speaker 1: a scene it was today College Game Day ESPN Place

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Speaker 1: was unbelievable. They had a what's called a ute meter

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Speaker 1: and it measured the decipels and man ear splitting sound

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Speaker 1: coming from the crowd just jam packed and it was

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Speaker 1: just a phenomenal scene. So that crowd is just electric

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Speaker 1: waiting on the UC Bearcats tonight. Man, it all started

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Speaker 1: at the crack at dawn today. Amazing And at the

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Speaker 1: bottom after the bottom of the hour news, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: welcome in Scott Springer of the Cincinnati Enquirer and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get his take on UC in Utah. But I

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Speaker 1: want to update some college football scores right now. Late

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Speaker 1: second quarter, the seventh ranked Old Miss Rebels seventeen to

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Speaker 1: seven lead at home over South Carolina. The twenty first

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Speaker 1: ranked Michigan Wolverines in the Big House tied with Purdue

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Speaker 1: at seven with a minute to go before halftime. NC

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Speaker 1: State at home leads number eight Georgia Tech fourteen to ten.

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Speaker 1: Just at the start early second quarter, Oklahoma and Tennessee

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Speaker 1: tied at seven, midway through the first quarter and Nebraska

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Speaker 1: has a seven to three lead on USC early second quarter.

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Speaker 1: Just looking here at the conference standings in the Big Twelve,

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Speaker 1: BYU and Cincinnati are tied atop the conference at five

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Speaker 1: and oh. BYU is eight to no overall, and the

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Speaker 1: Bearcats are seven and one, riding that seven game winning

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Speaker 1: streak after the opening game loss to Nebraska at Arrowhead

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Speaker 1: Stadium in Kansas City, a half game behind the tenth

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Speaker 1: ranked Cougars and the seventeenth ranked Bearcats number thirteen Texas

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Speaker 1: Tech winner. Today they are five and one in the

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Speaker 1: Big Twelve, eight and one overall. In the Houston Cougars

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Speaker 1: number twenty two, they're going to fall after a loss today.

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Speaker 1: They're seven and two overall, four and two in the conference,

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Speaker 1: and Arizona's eight is four and two. And then you've

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Speaker 1: got the TCU Horned Frogs the Utah Utes, both three

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Speaker 1: and two in the conference. Utah six and two overall

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Speaker 1: but ranked twenty fourth in the nation. So looking forward

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Speaker 1: to tonight and we've got the Game seven of the

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Speaker 1: World Series has started. Show Hey Otani is on the

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Speaker 1: mound for the Los Angeles Dodgers. There's one out Vladimir

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Speaker 1: Guerrero is up to the plate. George Springer had a

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Speaker 1: leadoff single. So we're in the bottom of the first

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Speaker 1: no score at the Rogers Center in Toronto. And just

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Speaker 1: looking ahead here at UC schedule as we get ready

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Speaker 1: for tonight's game. And by the way, on College Game

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Speaker 1: Day there they're analysts who you know, with the old

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Speaker 1: under and the betting line and all that good stuff.

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Speaker 1: Stanford Steve he said, do U see Bearcats are going

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Speaker 1: to win the Big twelve? How about that? Well? After

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Speaker 1: tonight's game against Utah, you see hosts Arizona and then

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Speaker 1: you see hosts number ten BYU. Is there a chance

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Speaker 1: at College Game Day could come back to Knippert Stadium

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Speaker 1: this year? How awesome would that be? And then the

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Speaker 1: regular season you see finishes up the twenty twenty five

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Speaker 1: regular season at TCU. So tough schedule down the stretch

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Speaker 1: here with two top twenty five teams Utah and BYU.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be so important for UC to weather

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Speaker 1: the storm early tonight at Rice Echo Stadium. The crowd's

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Speaker 1: going to be absolutely electric. You see, cannot panic, all right,

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Speaker 1: U see's got to prove that it can contain the

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Speaker 1: running game of Utah, and Utah's defense is going to

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Speaker 1: attempt to shut down Brendan Soresby and this high powered

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Speaker 1: you see offense. So if you see could just weather

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Speaker 1: the storm early and not panic in front of a

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Speaker 1: incredibly hostile crowd and then really hopefully take a lead,

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Speaker 1: build on it and if not, be close enough in

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter that you can steal the victory late

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Speaker 1: in the game. But the start really of the of

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Speaker 1: the game and then the third quarter it's, uh, it's

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Speaker 1: just absolutely huge. But if they would suffer a turnover

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Speaker 1: and fall behind with that hostile crowd, you don't want

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Speaker 1: it to get ugly. And then just looking at the

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Speaker 1: right now, the spread is eleven and a half for

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Speaker 1: Utah minus eleven point five, so you see a big

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Speaker 1: underdog tonight and the over undertotal is fifty eight and

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Speaker 1: a half points. So, man, just get ready for a

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Speaker 1: huge night here game seven of the World Series, and

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Speaker 1: you see Utah coming. And after the bottom of the

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Speaker 1: hour news, we'll welcome in Scott Springer of the Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: Enchoir to break it all down like a wrecking ball

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Speaker 1: right here with your host, Chick Ludwig on seven hundred

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Speaker 1: WLW eight thirty nine into Queen City of Cincinnati. Chick Ludwig,

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Speaker 1: this is sports Talk. We're going all the way to

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Speaker 1: nine fifteen tonight and sports Talk bleeds right into the

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Speaker 1: Big twelve Conference showdown between the number seventeen you see

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Speaker 1: Bearcats and the number twenty four utah Utes at Rice

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Speaker 1: Echels Stadium in Salt Lake City, kickoff ten fifteen, but

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Speaker 1: our coverage starts at nine fifteen. And here to join

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Speaker 1: us from the Cincinnati Enquirer, the Bearcats beat writer, Scott Springer.

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Speaker 8: Hi, Scott, Chick, what's up man?

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Speaker 11: It's gorgeous here ben to BYU and now at Rice

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Speaker 11: Ecles Stadium. And I'm not so sure. I don't know

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Speaker 11: which one is the best. I think this one might be.

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Speaker 11: Looking at the view. They both have outstanding views. And

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Speaker 11: you know, the guys up here have to call the game.

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Speaker 11: But what a night, you know, clear night shoot on

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Speaker 11: the big screen. They got Tennessee and Oklahoma going on,

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Speaker 11: and Mo's got the World Series on and the Dacoozie

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Speaker 11: Jets running and all sorts of filet mignon wrapped in

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Speaker 11: bacon and all the amenities that are radio crew would get.

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Speaker 1: Oh that is fantastic, and I can only imagine what

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Speaker 1: the scene is like there. Just watching some of the

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Speaker 1: college game Day on ESPN this morning, that place was electric.

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Speaker 1: There was a thing called the ute meter, and I

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Speaker 1: guess the decibels were ear splitting out there. But just

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Speaker 1: that crowd has got to be electric out there.

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Speaker 11: They're a noisy lunch They were up early, so we'll

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Speaker 11: see if they went home and took a nap, because

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Speaker 11: after game day ended, you know, it was ten hours

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Speaker 11: and fifteen minutes until kickoff, so a long, long night

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Speaker 11: here in Salt Lake City. But I'm looking at the

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Speaker 11: muss right now. It's Muss, Muss, mighty Utah student section

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Speaker 11: is what that stands for.

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Speaker 8: And apparently their deals.

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Speaker 11: They jump up and down on third down and they

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Speaker 11: try to disrupt the count and get the teams to

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Speaker 11: jump off sides. But the one thing you see has

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Speaker 11: going for now, we'll see. You know, this might be

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Speaker 11: louder than we think, but the first game against Nebraska

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Speaker 11: Arrowhead Stadium was as loud as I've heard. Dan Horde

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Speaker 11: has called Bengals Chiefs games there. He said it's the

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Speaker 11: loudest he's ever heard. And U see, did all right?

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Speaker 11: You know, you're passed away from winning that game. It

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Speaker 11: certainly was loud, and then I think that's helped them

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Speaker 11: going on the road to other places, you know, like

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Speaker 11: Kansas where they win in the final minute forty five

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Speaker 11: and Oklahoma State was still loud even though their team

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Speaker 11: is not doing as well. So I think they're well

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Speaker 11: prepared for this. They're probably ready to go silent if

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Speaker 11: need be. They're just running into a very tough team.

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Speaker 11: It's very very good at night and very very good

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Speaker 11: at home.

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Speaker 1: Scott Springer's with us to preview UC and Utah tonight. Gosh,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at standings here after Texas Tech's forty three

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Speaker 1: to twenty victory over k State. The thirteenth ranked Red

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Speaker 1: Raiders win today and banned a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: tighten up, you know, in the Big twelve, but BYU

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Speaker 1: you see at the top of the standings a half

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Speaker 1: game back. Here is is Texas Tech and this is gosh,

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Speaker 1: what an opportunity. I guess that's the key word here

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Speaker 1: for that. You see Bearcats tonight.

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Speaker 11: Well that's the way you have to look at it.

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Speaker 11: If you're you see fanas, you're here, you know you're here.

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Speaker 11: You're seven and one. It's better better than being you know,

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Speaker 11: two and five or whatever, where this game doesn't matter.

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Speaker 8: The game matters. Now.

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Speaker 11: I don't know what the oddsmakers are seeing because it

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Speaker 11: started out with a ten, ten and a half point spread,

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Speaker 11: and I'm looking at ESPN now it's up to and

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Speaker 11: eleven and.

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Speaker 8: A half point spread. So Utah, they're mighty.

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Speaker 11: They have scored over forty points in five games this season,

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Speaker 11: but the Bearcats have also scored three games over forty.

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Speaker 11: They have had six games total over thirty points, so

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Speaker 11: on average, they're both right and around, you know, almost

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01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:07,360
Speaker 11: thirty nine points per game. Both have very good running attacks.

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Speaker 11: You talked just about round Colorado off the field by

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01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:13,160
Speaker 11: halftime last week, and that was with their backup quarterback

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01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:16,080
Speaker 11: Bird Ficklin and Devin dan Pier is supposed to be

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Speaker 11: ready to go tonight, so he's you know, he can

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01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:20,400
Speaker 11: throw it, he can run it, he can do a

1461
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Speaker 11: lot of things. So can Brendan Sorosby. So you need

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Speaker 11: some Bearcats to step up. You probably need some turnovers tonight.

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Speaker 11: U See has not had many turnovers. Sorbie just one interception.

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Speaker 11: He's only been sacked twice, so if they can, you know,

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Speaker 11: keep it like that offensively and then defensively maybe you know,

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Speaker 11: come up with something just one interception this year for

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Speaker 11: the Bearcat defense, which seems kind of odd, but they've

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Speaker 11: only lost one game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Brendon sorosby twenty touchdown passes want just one interception. Incredible.

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Speaker 1: The total for tonight on ESPN is fifty eight and

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Speaker 1: a half points. Gosh, I mean the knee jerk reaction

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Speaker 1: is you know, the total is going to go over that,

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Speaker 1: but it's going to be fun. And the one thing

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Speaker 1: I told the listeners earlier, you know, you see has

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Speaker 1: to kind of weather the storm early, you know, with

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01:34:12,479 --> 01:34:16,680
Speaker 1: an electric crowd in a hostile environment, and just be

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01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:20,760
Speaker 1: cool and hopefully get a lead and build on it

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01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:23,160
Speaker 1: and if not, man be close enough in the fourth

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Speaker 1: quarter to steal this thing.

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Speaker 11: Well, if you look at their other games, they've had

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Speaker 11: reasonably good first half where they've come out hut and they've

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Speaker 11: played most of their offense in the first half and

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Speaker 11: then kind of dialed it back and chewed up the

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Speaker 11: clock and won the games. So a couple of the

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Speaker 11: games got a little close at one point or another,

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Speaker 11: but then you see pulled away. You know, last week

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Speaker 11: forty one to twenty against Baylor, that got to be

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Speaker 11: twenty eight twenty at one point, and they had a

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Speaker 11: big lead, had a big lead against Iowa State.

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Speaker 8: Iowa State came back, but they held them off.

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Speaker 11: Oklahoma State got a little bit close, but you see,

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01:34:55,920 --> 01:34:58,280
Speaker 11: made a rally and ran away. The only game they

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01:34:58,360 --> 01:35:01,160
Speaker 11: trailed at halftime is Nebraska, and that should have been

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Speaker 11: six to three. There was a I think Caleb Goodie

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01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:06,519
Speaker 11: dropped the pass. There was a fumble and that led

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Speaker 11: to a Nebraska touchdown right before halftime. So that was

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Speaker 11: thirteen to three and a half and they've that's the

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Speaker 11: only game that they've trailed at halftime.

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Speaker 1: And I really like, gosh the one two paunch that

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Speaker 1: UC has, you know at running back, and it has

1501
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:26,920
Speaker 1: certainly helped Brendan Soresby. Also, best friend of the quarterback

1502
01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:28,960
Speaker 1: is Irons out tonight? Is he okay?

1503
01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:31,840
Speaker 11: Kevin Pryor is out? Yeah, he is out, and they

1504
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:34,120
Speaker 11: declared him out earlier in the week. So you're gonna

1505
01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:35,920
Speaker 11: see a lot of tune with Walker. But he's the

1506
01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:39,280
Speaker 11: guy that I mean, he just belted the kid from

1507
01:35:39,320 --> 01:35:41,080
Speaker 11: Ioway stayed a few weeks back I don't know if

1508
01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:43,639
Speaker 11: you saw the video. Yes, he des trucked him and

1509
01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:46,960
Speaker 11: he's that's the way he runs. He's a bulldozers about

1510
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:49,000
Speaker 11: five eight two hundred and twenty pounds.

1511
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:50,040
Speaker 8: And they'll just take you down.

1512
01:35:50,840 --> 01:35:53,439
Speaker 11: And I think what you're probably going to see in

1513
01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:57,400
Speaker 11: the place of Heaven Pryor would be I'm guessing Manny

1514
01:35:57,439 --> 01:36:02,080
Speaker 11: Covey because he's very fast. Against Texas Tech a year ago,

1515
01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:04,280
Speaker 11: he came in when Corey Kiner went out very early

1516
01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:07,160
Speaker 11: in the first quarter, and he didn't necessarily run as much,

1517
01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:09,479
Speaker 11: but he got six passes for one hundred yards and

1518
01:36:09,479 --> 01:36:13,040
Speaker 11: scored two touchdowns. So very fast, elusive similar to prior.

1519
01:36:13,640 --> 01:36:17,120
Speaker 11: He also had a pun return called back against Kansas

1520
01:36:17,160 --> 01:36:17,719
Speaker 11: in that game.

1521
01:36:17,720 --> 01:36:19,639
Speaker 8: But if you remember that game, you.

1522
01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:22,680
Speaker 11: See had four touchdowns called back against against Kansas and

1523
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:26,559
Speaker 11: still won. So they're playing some other guys that night too.

1524
01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:30,160
Speaker 11: And then the Kenny Covey Yeah.

1525
01:36:29,479 --> 01:36:30,000
Speaker 1: Great, yeah.

1526
01:36:30,080 --> 01:36:33,280
Speaker 11: Chance Williams is another guy that out of Grambling State

1527
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:36,080
Speaker 11: that could factor in here running wise.

1528
01:36:36,160 --> 01:36:39,040
Speaker 1: And definitely the wide receivers for U see the guys

1529
01:36:39,080 --> 01:36:43,200
Speaker 1: they brought in here, there's some special talent there.

1530
01:36:43,720 --> 01:36:46,639
Speaker 11: For Brent Well, they stretched the field yes, Caleb Goody

1531
01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:50,280
Speaker 11: averages you know, over nineteen yards per catch, and then

1532
01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:53,519
Speaker 11: you have Jeff Caldwell round seventeen and that Raine Cyrus.

1533
01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:57,160
Speaker 11: Allen's more the possession receiver at eleven something, but he

1534
01:36:57,200 --> 01:36:59,600
Speaker 11: can make some moves and score the ball for you.

1535
01:37:00,360 --> 01:37:03,400
Speaker 11: And Noah Jennings Isaiah Johnson two guys that have come up.

1536
01:37:03,479 --> 01:37:06,519
Speaker 11: So they've done better at receiver with guys that are

1537
01:37:06,520 --> 01:37:10,800
Speaker 11: a little bit faster and making some plays. So but

1538
01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:12,800
Speaker 11: for all that to work, you know, there has to

1539
01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:15,000
Speaker 11: be some form of a run. And the Barrikats have

1540
01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:17,559
Speaker 11: normally been decent and running the ball, typically get over

1541
01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:20,599
Speaker 11: two hundred yards a game. But you're facing a team

1542
01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:23,759
Speaker 11: that last week ran for well over four hundred yards

1543
01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:26,360
Speaker 11: on the ground. The most UC's given up was I

1544
01:37:26,400 --> 01:37:29,720
Speaker 11: think two twenty eight against Oklahoma State. So it's it's

1545
01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:33,200
Speaker 11: stopped the run for the defense and established the run

1546
01:37:33,240 --> 01:37:33,879
Speaker 11: for the offense.

1547
01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:34,640
Speaker 8: Simple as that.

1548
01:37:34,880 --> 01:37:37,120
Speaker 1: And Scott Springer's with us for a couple more minutes.

1549
01:37:37,120 --> 01:37:40,800
Speaker 1: In Scott, you know, a a three four defense, three

1550
01:37:40,880 --> 01:37:44,479
Speaker 1: down lineman. Man, it worries me at times, you know,

1551
01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:48,880
Speaker 1: almost a natural crease in a way for a running back.

1552
01:37:48,880 --> 01:37:52,680
Speaker 1: But they They've shown a four down look too, haven't they.

1553
01:37:52,840 --> 01:37:53,200
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1554
01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:56,800
Speaker 11: Well, Sadderfield mentioned earlier this week that they probably will

1555
01:37:56,800 --> 01:37:59,360
Speaker 11: have to crowd the box a little bit more based

1556
01:37:59,400 --> 01:38:01,679
Speaker 11: on the way this runs the ball, So I would

1557
01:38:01,720 --> 01:38:04,000
Speaker 11: look for more of that, and we'll see.

1558
01:38:03,800 --> 01:38:05,080
Speaker 8: How they do throwing the ball.

1559
01:38:06,120 --> 01:38:09,439
Speaker 11: But to be an interesting game, It's feel like I've

1560
01:38:09,439 --> 01:38:12,200
Speaker 11: been up all day long, you know, looking at all

1561
01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:15,559
Speaker 11: this stuff, and it's finally nighttime here and the crowd's

1562
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:16,720
Speaker 11: not yet filed in.

1563
01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:19,320
Speaker 8: But I'm sure it's going to be a good one.

1564
01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:19,559
Speaker 4: You know.

1565
01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 11: It seats about fifty one thousand and change, and the

1566
01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:26,720
Speaker 11: students we'll see, like if they're still awake, if they

1567
01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:29,120
Speaker 11: got an app or if they're backfired up again or

1568
01:38:29,200 --> 01:38:31,160
Speaker 11: I don't know, they were worked up this morning and

1569
01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:33,679
Speaker 11: they did not have very kind things to say about

1570
01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:35,000
Speaker 11: their neighbors and Proglo.

1571
01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:35,479
Speaker 8: I know that much.

1572
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:39,080
Speaker 1: Oh bet, I'll bet it's a two hour time difference

1573
01:38:39,680 --> 01:38:42,880
Speaker 1: out there, So a ten to fifteen start is an

1574
01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:45,400
Speaker 1: eight to fifteen start. Our coverage starts here locally at

1575
01:38:45,479 --> 01:38:48,479
Speaker 1: nine to fifteen. And just really looking forward to this

1576
01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:52,559
Speaker 1: game and the opportunity in front of U s here

1577
01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:56,840
Speaker 1: trying to win its eighth consecutive game and tied atop

1578
01:38:56,880 --> 01:38:59,639
Speaker 1: the standards with BYU. And just looking at the schedule here,

1579
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:04,080
Speaker 1: you know, with Arizona coming in here and then number

1580
01:39:04,080 --> 01:39:06,600
Speaker 1: ten b YU and then going on the road to TCU.

1581
01:39:06,920 --> 01:39:12,000
Speaker 1: I'm loving Stanford Steve Pick of UC winning the Big twelve.

1582
01:39:13,400 --> 01:39:14,439
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's a good guy.

1583
01:39:14,640 --> 01:39:16,400
Speaker 11: I got to talk to him yesterday and he's a

1584
01:39:16,439 --> 01:39:19,519
Speaker 11: former tight end and he was raving about Joe roy Or.

1585
01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:22,519
Speaker 11: He loves Joe Royer and maybe Joe Royer gets the

1586
01:39:22,560 --> 01:39:24,600
Speaker 11: ball more tonight and that would that would help the

1587
01:39:24,600 --> 01:39:27,000
Speaker 11: Bearcats out. But back to what you're saying, you know,

1588
01:39:27,040 --> 01:39:30,000
Speaker 11: the schedule is certainly not easy for the Bearcats. You

1589
01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:33,000
Speaker 11: look at Texas Techa one today and so they're going

1590
01:39:33,040 --> 01:39:35,200
Speaker 11: to play BYU next week. I wouldn't be shocked to

1591
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:37,479
Speaker 11: find out that the game day goes to Lubbock for

1592
01:39:37,520 --> 01:39:41,519
Speaker 11: that game. But then BYU is in with UC on

1593
01:39:41,560 --> 01:39:44,720
Speaker 11: November twenty second, that's a game coming up. You see,

1594
01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:48,000
Speaker 11: we'll have Arizona first on the fifteenth, and Arizona is

1595
01:39:48,520 --> 01:39:51,679
Speaker 11: you know, they're thumping Colorado thirty eight to seven tonight,

1596
01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:56,320
Speaker 11: So Arizona's good. BYU is good TCU will be at

1597
01:39:56,320 --> 01:39:57,280
Speaker 11: home in Fort Worth.

1598
01:39:58,200 --> 01:39:59,120
Speaker 8: These guys are good.

1599
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:01,760
Speaker 11: Everybody's good, so you might as well be good right

1600
01:40:01,800 --> 01:40:04,120
Speaker 11: along with him and take your chances.

1601
01:40:04,120 --> 01:40:10,840
Speaker 1: Seven teams in the Big twelve two losses or one

1602
01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:14,519
Speaker 1: or none, so it's it's shaping up to be a

1603
01:40:14,560 --> 01:40:15,599
Speaker 1: fantastic conference.

1604
01:40:16,680 --> 01:40:18,240
Speaker 8: Well, and you can't take anyone lightly.

1605
01:40:18,320 --> 01:40:20,800
Speaker 11: Houston just jumped into the top twenty five this week

1606
01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:23,599
Speaker 11: and they were seven and one, and they lose at

1607
01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:26,559
Speaker 11: home today to West Virginia forty five thirty five, So

1608
01:40:26,680 --> 01:40:29,200
Speaker 11: rich Rod gets one over the Cougars. I guess that

1609
01:40:29,280 --> 01:40:31,519
Speaker 11: might have been the Holgerson ball, since he used to

1610
01:40:31,520 --> 01:40:34,639
Speaker 11: coach at both the places, but he's he's long gone.

1611
01:40:34,680 --> 01:40:36,559
Speaker 11: He's at Nebraska offensive coordinator.

1612
01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:39,800
Speaker 1: Beautiful, and the view has to be spectacular there. Gosh,

1613
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:43,280
Speaker 1: do you find yourself having to concentrate on the field.

1614
01:40:45,040 --> 01:40:47,920
Speaker 11: Well, once it gets dark, he really can't see these

1615
01:40:47,960 --> 01:40:50,479
Speaker 11: mountains as much as he did earlier. So yeah, and

1616
01:40:50,560 --> 01:40:52,799
Speaker 11: the lights are on so you really can focus.

1617
01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:53,960
Speaker 4: But yeah.

1618
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:56,840
Speaker 11: My youngest son and his wife live in near Salt

1619
01:40:56,920 --> 01:40:58,759
Speaker 11: Lake City, so I've been out here a fair amount

1620
01:40:58,760 --> 01:41:01,880
Speaker 11: of times, and I tell them, one of these days

1621
01:41:01,920 --> 01:41:03,760
Speaker 11: I'm going to get tired of taking pictures. But it

1622
01:41:03,800 --> 01:41:05,920
Speaker 11: hasn't happened yet because I went on a walk today

1623
01:41:05,960 --> 01:41:08,880
Speaker 11: and it's just gorgeous. You can't help yourself, you know,

1624
01:41:08,920 --> 01:41:12,320
Speaker 11: but look around and look at everything. It's it's really awesome.

1625
01:41:12,400 --> 01:41:15,000
Speaker 11: But the bearcats can't look at the mountains. They got

1626
01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:16,000
Speaker 11: to keep climbing the hill.

1627
01:41:16,600 --> 01:41:20,160
Speaker 1: And Scott Springer before I let you go, just a

1628
01:41:20,200 --> 01:41:23,240
Speaker 1: couple of real keys here tonight for the for a

1629
01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:24,520
Speaker 1: bear Cat's victory.

1630
01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:26,920
Speaker 8: Well the keys.

1631
01:41:27,280 --> 01:41:29,800
Speaker 11: Tommy Walker has to get the run going and be

1632
01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:33,040
Speaker 11: successful with the run or whoever's running. And if they

1633
01:41:33,080 --> 01:41:35,160
Speaker 11: can't run, you know, like Manny Covey has been good

1634
01:41:35,200 --> 01:41:37,479
Speaker 11: at taking short dump passes it and getting yard ex

1635
01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:39,960
Speaker 11: that way, so that has to work.

1636
01:41:41,080 --> 01:41:43,120
Speaker 8: You got to keep sores v upright.

1637
01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:46,160
Speaker 11: It's only been sacked twice, and I think Utah sacked

1638
01:41:46,200 --> 01:41:50,240
Speaker 11: Colorado's quarterback seven times last week. So keeps sores v

1639
01:41:50,360 --> 01:41:54,040
Speaker 11: upright and then defensively pressure their quarterback.

1640
01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:56,240
Speaker 8: And it's not going to be easy because he's very elusive.

1641
01:41:56,280 --> 01:41:59,880
Speaker 11: Devin Damfier came from New Mexico and Utah's offensive court

1642
01:42:00,240 --> 01:42:02,759
Speaker 11: also came from New Mexico, and that's the system.

1643
01:42:02,800 --> 01:42:05,120
Speaker 8: That they run, So you have a very elusive quarterback.

1644
01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:08,479
Speaker 11: You just you're probably going to give up yards, but

1645
01:42:08,960 --> 01:42:10,640
Speaker 11: you know, maybe if you can just give up the

1646
01:42:10,720 --> 01:42:12,599
Speaker 11: yards between the twenties, you have a chance.

1647
01:42:13,760 --> 01:42:17,200
Speaker 1: Well, we really appreciate you joining us tonight, Scott, and

1648
01:42:17,320 --> 01:42:20,679
Speaker 1: we look forward to the broadcast here with with Dan Horde,

1649
01:42:20,720 --> 01:42:24,280
Speaker 1: Tony Pike and Moe Ager and hopefully it's a big

1650
01:42:24,360 --> 01:42:25,439
Speaker 1: night here for the Bearcats.

1651
01:42:26,360 --> 01:42:27,240
Speaker 8: They're all ready to go.

1652
01:42:27,320 --> 01:42:30,120
Speaker 11: It's a nice snug booth and Tony's got his skittles

1653
01:42:30,360 --> 01:42:31,960
Speaker 11: to the right here. I told him I would stay

1654
01:42:31,960 --> 01:42:35,120
Speaker 11: away from him because that's that's like his go.

1655
01:42:35,000 --> 01:42:38,479
Speaker 1: To fantastic All the best of the men, looking forward

1656
01:42:38,520 --> 01:42:41,600
Speaker 1: to the broadcast and reading your stuff in the Inquirer

1657
01:42:41,680 --> 01:42:45,439
Speaker 1: and Cincinnati dot Com. All righty, sir, thanks a lot,

1658
01:42:45,720 --> 01:42:49,880
Speaker 1: appreciate it, Scott Springer, and I hope Bryce in Cincinnati

1659
01:42:49,920 --> 01:42:52,559
Speaker 1: wants to talk Bearcats. I hope you'll hold on. We've

1660
01:42:52,600 --> 01:42:55,680
Speaker 1: got to take a break and we'll come back with

1661
01:42:55,760 --> 01:43:02,679
Speaker 1: more sports Talk on seven hundred WLW eight fifty six

1662
01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:06,040
Speaker 1: in the Queen City chick Ludwigs seven hundred WLW. This

1663
01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:11,320
Speaker 1: is Sports Talk and the Bearcats ranked seventeenth in the

1664
01:43:11,400 --> 01:43:15,320
Speaker 1: nation puts its seven game winning streak on the line

1665
01:43:15,320 --> 01:43:20,639
Speaker 1: tonight at Utah. Let's go out to the phones, Bryce,

1666
01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:25,120
Speaker 1: thank you so much for holding. Welcome to seven hundred WLW.

1667
01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:28,719
Speaker 1: All right, chick, how are we doing?

1668
01:43:29,920 --> 01:43:30,559
Speaker 2: I'm doing great?

1669
01:43:30,560 --> 01:43:31,000
Speaker 3: How are you?

1670
01:43:31,120 --> 01:43:33,719
Speaker 1: Oh fantastic? What is on your mind tonight?

1671
01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:34,000
Speaker 6: Man?

1672
01:43:34,040 --> 01:43:36,240
Speaker 1: I'm fired up over the Bearcats.

1673
01:43:36,960 --> 01:43:37,719
Speaker 3: I'm just so black.

1674
01:43:37,760 --> 01:43:40,719
Speaker 2: College game Day finally went to a Big twelfth city.

1675
01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:42,799
Speaker 2: Big twelve finally got the national attention.

1676
01:43:44,040 --> 01:43:46,800
Speaker 1: Amen to that I was able to watch for a

1677
01:43:46,840 --> 01:43:50,200
Speaker 1: little while this morning. The place looked just incredible.

1678
01:43:51,520 --> 01:43:54,639
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that crowd was super electric. And I don't

1679
01:43:54,640 --> 01:43:56,400
Speaker 2: know if we're going to shut up at any point

1680
01:43:56,479 --> 01:43:59,120
Speaker 2: during this game tonight, the last time by Big twelve.

1681
01:43:59,120 --> 01:44:02,120
Speaker 2: Teams are right simultaneously in the AP Top twenty five.

1682
01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:05,760
Speaker 2: What September twenty second of last year, and we're about

1683
01:44:05,800 --> 01:44:07,640
Speaker 2: to seat the Big twelve Maniston and at ten to

1684
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:12,160
Speaker 2: fifteen a kickoff Eastern time, as the UC Bearcats take

1685
01:44:12,200 --> 01:44:12,960
Speaker 2: on the usty youth.

1686
01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:17,559
Speaker 1: Man, you did your homework. Yeah. Five teams ranked out

1687
01:44:17,600 --> 01:44:20,360
Speaker 1: of the Big Twelve in the top twenty five, Number

1688
01:44:20,360 --> 01:44:24,960
Speaker 1: ten BYU the seventeenth ranked Bearcats, thirteenth ranked Texas Tech

1689
01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:28,600
Speaker 1: Red Raiders, the Cougars of Houston twenty second for the

1690
01:44:28,640 --> 01:44:33,439
Speaker 1: time being, although they got beat today and then yeah

1691
01:44:33,479 --> 01:44:37,040
Speaker 1: and then twenty fourth rank Utah. So it's a it's

1692
01:44:37,040 --> 01:44:42,040
Speaker 1: a great conference, it's a competitive conference. The top of

1693
01:44:42,080 --> 01:44:45,519
Speaker 1: it little the tighten up brother and uh, it's gonna

1694
01:44:45,560 --> 01:44:47,880
Speaker 1: be fun tonight watching the Bearcats. Hope they can pull

1695
01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:51,320
Speaker 1: this one out. Oh yeah, what else do you like

1696
01:44:51,360 --> 01:44:52,519
Speaker 1: about UC tonight?

1697
01:44:54,160 --> 01:44:56,160
Speaker 2: I mean, I think if there's any team that could

1698
01:44:56,200 --> 01:44:59,200
Speaker 2: put a rain on these Big ten I mean twelve

1699
01:44:59,200 --> 01:45:02,040
Speaker 2: teams perad, I think it's the UC Bearcats. And what

1700
01:45:02,120 --> 01:45:05,080
Speaker 2: Brendan Swersby has done. Scott Sadderfield during Big twe B

1701
01:45:05,280 --> 01:45:07,000
Speaker 2: Day earlier in the season, he was talking up a

1702
01:45:07,080 --> 01:45:11,120
Speaker 2: storm about Brendon Swersby and Brandon Sorosby backed it up.

1703
01:45:11,200 --> 01:45:15,840
Speaker 2: I mean, he's gone dead been straight games with the

1704
01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:19,000
Speaker 2: multiple pass tds and zero interceptions, and he's gonna have

1705
01:45:19,080 --> 01:45:22,519
Speaker 2: to keep that streak tonight to pull out of YUC victory.

1706
01:45:24,280 --> 01:45:28,920
Speaker 1: Forty three passing yards, twenty touchdowns and only one interception.

1707
01:45:29,200 --> 01:45:30,560
Speaker 1: That's absolutely incredible.

1708
01:45:31,760 --> 01:45:32,120
Speaker 11: Oh yeah.

1709
01:45:32,160 --> 01:45:34,760
Speaker 2: I compared the last year with the struggles that they

1710
01:45:34,760 --> 01:45:36,680
Speaker 2: had last year in the Big Twelve Conference. Is just

1711
01:45:36,680 --> 01:45:37,439
Speaker 2: great to see him.

1712
01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:42,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they got so close to a Bowl eligibility

1713
01:45:41,640 --> 01:45:45,080
Speaker 1: then they went right down the tubes. So it's great

1714
01:45:45,120 --> 01:45:49,240
Speaker 1: to secure a Bowl eligibility so early in the season.

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Speaker 1: And now let's just keep pushing. And I loved what

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Speaker 1: Stanford Steve said on ESPN College Game Day. He likes

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Speaker 1: the Bearcats to win the Big Twelve.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but the defense is gonna have to clutch

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Speaker 2: up in this game at home. The opponents third out

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Speaker 2: conversion percentage is about thirty percent away, it's almost fifty percent,

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Speaker 2: and Utah is one of the best teams in the

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Speaker 2: country on third down. To that defense is gonna have

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Speaker 2: to really step up today.

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Speaker 1: Bryce, thank you for holding you get my caller of

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Speaker 1: the night. Appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Jick.

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Speaker 5: I have a great rest of your weekend.

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Speaker 2: You'd hope you enjoy this new team football game.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we sure will, Thank you, Bryce. That is awesome.

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Speaker 1: We've reached the top of the hour. News We go

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Speaker 1: till nine fifteen tonight, getting you ready for UC and Utah.

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Speaker 1: This is your host, Chick Ludwig on the Home of

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Speaker 1: the Reds. The best Bengals coverage and the home of

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01:46:45,040 --> 01:47:33,200
Speaker 1: the University of Cincinnati Bearcats seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 8: To me.

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Speaker 1: Ten minutes after nine in the Queen City of Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: Chick Ludwig, seven hundred WLW. This is sports Talk. We

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Speaker 1: are five minutes away from UC football shoeless. Joe Waddell

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Speaker 1: is tonight's producer. We're going to nine fifteen. Don't forget

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Speaker 1: to set your alarm clocks back for an extra hour

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01:47:48,080 --> 01:47:51,840
Speaker 1: of sleep tonight as we transition from Daylight Savings time

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01:47:52,120 --> 01:47:56,799
Speaker 1: to standard time starting at two a m. On Sunday.

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Speaker 1: What a matchup We've got to the number seventeenth ranked

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Speaker 1: University of Cincinnati Bearcats against the number twenty four ranked

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Speaker 1: Utah Utes at Rice Eckles Stadium in Salt Lake City.

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01:48:10,520 --> 01:48:13,519
Speaker 1: Kickoff is ten point fifteen, but all the coverage right

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01:48:13,560 --> 01:48:17,000
Speaker 1: here on the Big one seven hundred WLW starting at

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01:48:17,439 --> 01:48:20,759
Speaker 1: nine to fifteen, and it all happens at Rice Eckles

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Speaker 1: Stadium in Salt Lake City, Utah. Well, and you heard

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Speaker 1: Scott Springer say it, It's going to be very important

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Speaker 1: for this offensive line of the UC Bearcats to keep

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01:48:31,960 --> 01:48:38,160
Speaker 1: Brendan Soresby upright twenty touchdown passes only one interception in

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01:48:38,280 --> 01:48:41,360
Speaker 1: a big time shout out to that offensive line. Left

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Speaker 1: tackle Joe Cotton, Left guard Evan teng Gasol center, incredible

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01:48:48,880 --> 01:48:53,360
Speaker 1: player at center from zenia A High School, Gavin Gerhart,

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Speaker 1: the leader of this team. Right guard tarn TiO and

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Buford at tackle, and then in the trenches on defense,

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Speaker 1: Micah Coleman left defensive end, the Godfather, Dante Corleone at

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Speaker 1: nose tackle, and Jalen Hunt at right defensive end. I

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Speaker 1: think you're gonna see more stacked boxes instead of the

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01:49:17,720 --> 01:49:20,960
Speaker 1: three to four, a lot more four down linemen for

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Speaker 1: UC tonight to trying to slow down the Utah Utes

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Speaker 1: running game. And then wow, the uh the special special

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Speaker 1: teams unit's going to be huge tonight for U, see

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Speaker 1: no doubt about that. And Max Fletcher the punter, and

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Speaker 1: then how about Stephen Russknack your placekicker. He hasn't missed

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Speaker 1: a kick, a field goal or an extra point all season.

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Speaker 1: So it's uh. It's gonna be a severe test to

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Speaker 1: night at Utah, but at the same time, a great

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Speaker 1: opportunity for the seventeenth ranked Bearcats. Looking forward to the

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Speaker 1: call from Dan Horde tonight along with the color analyst

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Speaker 1: Tony Pike and our host on Gosh the Bearcats does

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01:50:13,479 --> 01:50:18,040
Speaker 1: a phenomenal job. Moeger and I know most going to

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Speaker 1: update some college football scores. I want to do that

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Speaker 1: right now. Old Miss the seventh ranked Rebels have a

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Speaker 1: seventeen to fourteen lead over South Carolina midway through the

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Speaker 1: third quarter. Michigan has pulled ahead of Purdue fourteen to

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Speaker 1: ten with five minutes to go in the third quarter.

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Speaker 1: NC State at halftime a twenty four to seventeen lead

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Speaker 1: over Georgia, Tech, Tennessee and Oklahoma are tied to ten

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Speaker 1: with two forty one to go before halftime, and Nebraska

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Speaker 1: leads number twenty three ranked Southern Cal seventeen to six.

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Speaker 1: Ohio State a big winner today over Penn State. The

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Speaker 1: number one rank Buckeyes thirty eight to four thirteen over

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Speaker 1: Penn State. Number two Indiana crushes Maryland fifty five to ten,

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Speaker 1: and Number five Georgia a twenty four to twenty winner

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Speaker 1: in Gainesville over the Florida Gators, and Texas, ranked twentieth

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Speaker 1: in the nation, pulls out a thirty four to thirty

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Speaker 1: one victory over the ninth ranked Vanderbilt Commodores in Austin, Texas.

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Speaker 1: I want to take this opportunity to thank our guest tonight,

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Speaker 1: Bruce Kozerski, Bengals legend. He's going to join me as

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01:51:30,560 --> 01:51:34,800
Speaker 1: a co host tomorrow for Bengals postgame sports talk following

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01:51:35,120 --> 01:51:39,600
Speaker 1: the Bengals Bears game one o'clock kickoff at pay Corpse Stadium.

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01:51:39,920 --> 01:51:42,559
Speaker 1: Bruce and I will be at the Wings and Rings

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01:51:43,640 --> 01:51:47,479
Speaker 1: in Oakley tomorrow night from five thirty to eight thirty.

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Speaker 1: Hal McCoy joined us to talk Reds and Game seven

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Speaker 1: of the World Series in the seven o'clock hour. Terrence

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01:51:55,280 --> 01:51:58,920
Speaker 1: Moore live from Atlanta. Also in the seven o'clock hour,

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Speaker 1: talking about his book, My Big Red Machine. Google up

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01:52:03,720 --> 01:52:07,559
Speaker 1: Terrence Moore, It's a great read. And of course Scott

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Speaker 1: Springer of The Inquirer and Cincinnati dot Com joining us

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Speaker 1: to give us a preview of tonight's Utah UC game

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Speaker 1: Texas Tech one. They're a half game behind co leaders

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Speaker 1: BYU and UC and the Bearcats. Utah Utes are next

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Speaker 1: right here on seven hundred WLW