1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: I'm sort of feeling like I should go to commercial 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: break right away, just to make sure that we actually 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: can go to commercial break. Welcome to the hopefully shorter 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: Dan o'donald Show on this beautiful sunny Wednesday. For those 5 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: who weren't with us yesterday, we had an impromptu radio 6 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: thon because well, we had a catastrophic server failure in 7 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: which we could not play a commercial, we could not 8 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: go to syndicated programming, we could not do anything other 9 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: than play me monologuing. So I did so dutifully and 10 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: competently for two and a half straight hours without taking 11 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: a break. Again, a big thanks to all of you 12 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: who took part in a brand new game that we 13 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: are going to continue. We're going to make this so 14 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: weekly segment here on the Dan o'donald Show. It's called 15 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,319 Speaker 1: Talk Radio Roulette, where I take calls and you can 16 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: say absolutely anything you want, make any point you want, 17 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: and I have no idea what you're going to say. 18 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: It's sort of like an oral exam in which I 19 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: have to speak intelligently about anything that you want to 20 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: talk about. It could be completely random, it could be 21 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: gibberish if you want. I think we're going to start 22 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: doing this every Friday starting in the new year. I'm 23 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: going to work on a theme song, some sound effects, 24 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: maybe like a Roulette wheel spinning. Every time we go 25 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: to a different caller. But we just had so much fun. 26 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: In fact, one of our very first callers was not 27 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: someone who called in, but me calling my wife and 28 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: eleven year old daughter to let them know that I 29 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: wasn't going to be able to make it in to 30 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: the Christmas concert. My daughter obviously plays in the school orchestra. 31 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: My kids have been playing violin since they were very, 32 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: very young. This was her final elementary school orchestra concert, 33 00:01:58,400 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: and I had to miss it because I was on 34 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: the air who actually called them live on the air today, 35 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: My wife, Megan, went to her parents' house and Grammy 36 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: and Grampy, as they're affectionately known by my kids and 37 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: pretty much every other kid. We had to live with 38 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: them for the better part of a year with wonderful 39 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 1: experience while our house was being faked. We sold our house, 40 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: and then we were building a house, and we actually 41 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 1: lived with Grammy and Grampy, and my oldest son would 42 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: have all of his friends over, you know, sixteen seventeen 43 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: eighteen year olds, and they'd come over there high Grammy, 44 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: high Grampy and you know, sit down and talk to them. 45 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: So my wife goes to Grammy and Grampy's house to 46 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: pick up some mail. She's part of the family business 47 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: and does all the books, so she needed to go 48 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:48,679 Speaker 1: and pick up some mail. Before she can even say anything, 49 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: her father, Grampy says, Megs, you on the air, D minus, 50 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: D minus performance. You didn't even talk. You just you froze. 51 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: You didn't say anything, just D minus performance. She said, Dad, 52 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: I didn't know I was on the radio. I thought 53 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: Dan was playing a joke on me. I didn't think 54 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: that the radio station actually broke and that he couldn't 55 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: actually go to commercial and wouldn't actually be going. So 56 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: he said, well, you improved a little bit, Gracie. When 57 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: Gracie was talking, she was an A plus. She was adorable. 58 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: You D minus. So this is why Megan and I 59 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: work so well as a couple, because I handled the 60 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: radio broadcast, said, she handles pretty much everything else. All right, 61 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: you want to join us on today's foray into broadcast 62 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: excellent sore at the very least broadcast competence, and it 63 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,119 Speaker 1: may well be broadcast competence spread out over the next 64 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: five hours. We have no idea. We think everything's fixed, 65 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: but well, you and I are going to find out 66 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: together now, aren't we. Four one four, seven, nine, nine eleven. 67 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: On our adventnows dot com talk and text line. 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When I say 78 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: this is how the powers that be in corporate measure 79 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: our success, this actually is it. Radio ratings are one thing, 80 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: revenue is one thing, but they are just obsessed with 81 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: podcast numbers. So please do go to your iHeartRadio app 82 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: subscribe to the Dan o'donald Show. You can actually load 83 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: it up onto your presets. Just like your car radio 84 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: has presets, you can actually have presets on your iHeartRadio app. 85 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: I believe I've got WISN. I believe I've got the 86 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: Mark Belling podcast, Jay's show, Ben's show, my show. I 87 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: think Ben Shapiro Rogan is up there. It's just really easy. 88 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: If I want to listen to something really really quickly, 89 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: you can just go up on your presets. So heart me, 90 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: thumbs up me, like me, follow me, subscribe to me 91 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: whatever it is on your iHeartRadio podcast or wherever you 92 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: listen to podcasts. My goal, my goal is to beat 93 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: both Belling and Jay Weber at the podcast game, even 94 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: though they're going podcast on kidding, I was actually talking 95 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 1: to Mark this morning about just his and Jay's long history. 96 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: I couldn't remember if Mark had hired Jay Weber both 97 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: at WTDY and here at w and he confirmed for 98 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: me that he actually strongly recommended that WISN Management hired 99 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: Jay Webber, and boy, what a great decision that was. 100 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,239 Speaker 1: And here I sit now less than a week away 101 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: from Jay's final radio show, almost a year from Mark 102 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: Belling's final radio show, which is was his year end 103 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: current events quiz. By the way, do we know producer 104 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: Eric is he going to try to do like a 105 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: podcast version of that? Is there a way to do 106 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: that current events quiz? I'm not sure either, and you 107 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: know I didn't really I didn't want to like spring 108 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: this on him, but I wonder if he would be down, 109 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: you know what, he probably wants to be like, Okay, 110 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: that's done. You know, the radio portion of my career 111 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: is over. 112 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 2: Now. 113 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: I'm really focused on podcasts. I thought it would be 114 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: cool as someone who listened and played along with the 115 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: Mark Belling Quiz for years, decades, even when I was 116 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: working I started here at WISN as Mark's news guy, 117 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: and I would actually, even though I could easily have 118 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: taken off that day, I always wanted to work on 119 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: the Mark Belling late afternoon show quiz day because I 120 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: would play along and see if I could beat whoever 121 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: it was that actually won the thing. I think five 122 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,679 Speaker 1: out of the six years now that's not it. It's 123 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: like four out of the five years I was doing news, 124 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: I did, and even going into when I got my 125 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: first morning show here, I definitely whooped the heck out 126 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: of listeners. Now, granted it's not fair because Mark and 127 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: I always covered the same news, so I knew exactly 128 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: what he was going to ask, you know. He always 129 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: asked about what motor trends, Car of the year was 130 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: going to be, who is Times Person of the Year 131 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: that year? And I also didn't have the pressure of 132 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: being live on the radio and having to answer in 133 00:07:55,040 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: three seconds, although I always always would. So yes, Twoesday, 134 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: December twenty third, six am to nine am is going 135 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: to be the final Jay Weber Show. Also the day 136 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: after Christmas as well as I believe New Year's Day, 137 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: Jay is going to do a one hour retrospective on 138 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: his career. He's going to sit down with our own 139 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: Jerry Bot to talk about his career, to talk about 140 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: his development as a broadcaster, what he's going to do 141 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: from here, So be sure to be listening to that 142 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: as well. Also here on the Dan o'donald Show. One 143 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: week from yesterday, So this coming Tuesday, the premiere of 144 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: The Dan o'donald show Family Christmas Special. All Right, i 145 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: feel like I'm still unable to go to commercial break 146 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: and I'm just sort of filibustering, you know what, Let's 147 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: actually go to Providence. There is an update now on 148 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 1: the hunt for the Brown University shooter. Let's go very 149 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: quickly as the police chief has taken questions from the press. 150 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: This courtesy of our friends at Fox News. 151 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 2: Who among law enforcement or other first responders was first 152 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 2: on the scenes that day and who came next? So 153 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 2: ronin a university was unseen and then immediately the Province 154 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 2: Police depart move in minutes? 155 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 3: Was there. 156 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 4: Back then? 157 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 3: Green Jack? 158 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 5: This is pleased the video from two sixteen on the 159 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 5: day of the shooting, where we see the person of 160 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 5: interest coming to contactor of me or another person. Is 161 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 5: that the moment that you think this new person and 162 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 5: person of interest, I'm close. 163 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 2: That's correctors around the area of Benevent of Benevolent and Cook. 164 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: So just very quickly, as we're hearing from Chief Perez 165 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: of the Providence Police Department, there is now a second 166 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: person of interest. This is not a suspect. They're not 167 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: searching for two gunmen, but they are searching for a 168 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: second person of interest who they believe came into close 169 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: contact with the suspect. They are seen on surveillance video 170 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 1: sort of crossing paths. They want to talk to this 171 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: person to see if he could get a better description 172 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 1: of that gun. Let's go back to Chief Perez was. 173 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 2: In the vicinity of the subject that we have an 174 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 2: interest on and we want to speak with them if we 175 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 2: can explain the Spanish is sectly why we're looking for 176 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 2: this individual, why do we want to speak with them. 177 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: So now we're going to the Spanish language portion of 178 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: the prog Yes in Rhode Island. Producer Eric, you're right, 179 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: for all those Hispanish no. This this obviously is being 180 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: attended by a whole lot of national media people. So 181 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: there is the Spanish language broadcasting stations as well. If there, 182 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: it sounds like they are no closer to getting a 183 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: suspect who yelled something. He yelled something, Ladies and gentlemen, 184 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: We we aren't going to say what that something was 185 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: because it rather obviously was Allahu akbar. Whenever you hear 186 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: the suspect yelled something and then they won't tell you 187 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: what it was that the suspect yelled, it's one of 188 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: two things, Okay, it is either free Palestine or Allaho akbar. 189 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: If the guy yells something and they tell you exactly 190 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: what he said immediately after the first press briefing, If 191 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 1: they tell you immediately what the gunman said. Chances are 192 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: he yelled white power. That's just how this works. Or 193 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:33,359 Speaker 1: I suppose if he yelled make America great again, if 194 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: he yelled this is maga country, then you would know 195 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: about it immediately. They won't tell you that he yelled 196 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: Allah who akbar, because of course the real thing you've 197 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: got to worry about is Islamophobia, Ladies and gentlemen, After 198 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: hearing now three days of testimony in the Hannah Dugan case, 199 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: I've come to a very important conclude usion. Not only 200 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: is Judge Hannah Dugan very obviously guilty, she might actually 201 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: be the guiltiest person I have ever seen on trial. 202 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: The evidence against her continues to pile up, and ladies 203 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: and gentlemen, it is absolutely stunning how much evidence there 204 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: is against her. Yesterday, while we were engaging in our 205 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: impromptu radio thon, there was significant testimony that was going 206 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: on by one of the fellow Circuit court judges who 207 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: Dugan tried to get to come out into the hallway 208 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: with her robe on to try to scare off the 209 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: ice agents. Her name is Christella Servera. She testified yesterday 210 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: the same day. According to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, reporter 211 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: who's been in the courtroom, John Dietrich. The same day 212 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: that federal agents testified Dugan was direct and angry as 213 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: she ordered them to go to the Chief Judge's office 214 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: as they were waiting to arrest Eduardo Flores Ruiz. Servera 215 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: testified that Dugan told her to keep her robe on 216 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: so the two of them could confront the ice agents. 217 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: Servera testified she hesitated to enter a public hallway and 218 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: confront federal immigration agents, with Dugan, saying she and other 219 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: judges don't wear their robes in the hallway, as the 220 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: robe conveys authority. She said, I didn't want to walk 221 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: in the hallway with my robot. Once in the hallway, 222 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 1: Servera said the federal agent whom Dugan questioned was respectful, 223 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: but Dugan was getting worked up. Severa testified quote her 224 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: irritation seemed to progress to anger. I thought she could 225 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: have been a little bit more diplomatic. Servera was then 226 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: asked what she thought when she learned that the FBI 227 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: was investigating Dugan for allegedly trying to help Flores Ruiz 228 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: elude arrest. Shocked, Servera said judges should not be helping 229 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: defendants evade arrest. Later on SERVERA added she became worried, saying, 230 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: I was mortified. I thought that someone may think that 231 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: I was part of what happened. That's about as damning 232 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: as it gets. But that wasn't the only testimony that 233 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: prosecutors presented against Hannah Dugan. Chief Judge Carl Ashley was 234 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: also called to the stand today, saying that he sent 235 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: an email to his colleagues on April third, before this 236 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: confrontation between Dugan and the ICE agents and federal agents occurred, saying, quote, 237 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: he was not sure if we have the authority to 238 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: intervene in what happens in the public hallways. Asked by 239 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: prosecutors again, if the judiciary has the authority to stop 240 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: an ICE arrest or interfere with an ICE arrest in 241 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: a hallway or frankly, anywhere else inside a courtroom, Ashley said, 242 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: I do not believe. So that's not the only testimony 243 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: that Dugan faced today. Milwaukee County District Attorney Assistant DA 244 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: Melissa Buss she was in court on April eighteenth and 245 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: before Judge Hannah Dugan, so she was in the courtroom 246 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: when this happened. She testified that the jury door in 247 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: Dugan's courtroom is often locked. Now, of course, Dugan is 248 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: charged with helping Flores Ruiz escape Ice agents through that 249 00:15:55,960 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: jury room door. Bus says she is scheduled in Dugan's 250 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: courtroom and the only time that she left through that 251 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: jury room door was when she was sick and needed 252 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: to leave court quickly, presumably to you know, throw up 253 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: or something like that. This, she said, showed that it 254 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: was rare that it was ever used by someone other 255 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: than a juror or potentially the judge. And oftentimes the 256 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: judge will not use that exit because the judge will 257 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: come directly from chambers and there's an exit from judicial 258 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: chambers into the hallway. So the only time you're ever 259 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: really using that jury room door is when there is 260 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: a jury seated. The day that Flores Ruiz appeared before 261 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: Hannah Dugan, there was no jury, so there was no 262 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: need to use the jury door. This is insanely damning testimony. 263 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: So we have audio saying Hannah Dugan to her core saying, 264 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: I'll take the heat for shuttling Florees Ruiz and the 265 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: attorney through the jury room door. We have got an 266 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: assistant district attorney who testifies that no one ever uses 267 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: that door. It is very unusual that anyone would ever 268 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: use that door. Carl Ashley saying, judges in my court, 269 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: I am the chief judge. Judges in my court do 270 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: not have the authority to confront or stop ICE agents 271 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: from making arrests in the Milwaukee County courthouse. And you 272 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: got a fellow judge who Dugan said, hey, wear your 273 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: robe with me so we can confront these ICE agents 274 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: to try to get them away from the violent, illegal 275 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: alien criminal appearing before me, also testifying I was mortified 276 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: by what she did. Judges should not be helping defendants 277 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 1: evade arrest. As though that wasn't enough. There was more 278 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: testimony today Alan Freed, who is not the legendary rock 279 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: and roll DJ who actually helped popularize the rock and 280 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: roll in the early days of the genre. He is, 281 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: in fact Judge Hannah Dugan's clerk. According to jsonline dot com, 282 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: he voiced his opinion about the ICE team who arrived 283 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: at the Milwaukee County Courthouse on April eighteenth to arrest 284 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 1: Flores Ruiz. Freed said, I called him a fascist in 285 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 1: the courtroom. He had been shown footage of him walking 286 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: past one of the agents, and the prosecution asked what 287 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: Fried said to the agent. He called him a fascist. 288 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: Freed testified in court, I walked past the guy and 289 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: called him a fascist. Earlier in his testimony, he was 290 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: asked about ICE's presence in the courthouse. Freed said, I 291 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: was upset and a little bit outraged. Yeah, you think so. 292 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: Now we've got not only the chief judge saying that 293 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: Hannah Dugan has no authority to interfere with any of this. 294 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: We've got a fellow judge saying Hannah tried to conscript 295 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: me in her plot to help distract the ICE agents 296 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: so that Flores Ruiz could get away. We have got 297 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: the clerk saying, yeah, I think that they're all fascists. 298 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: Clearly Dugan feels the exact same way. We also have 299 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: an assistant district attorney saying, yeah, nobody ever uses the 300 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: jury room door. It was unusual that she did so. 301 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: Clearly she was trying to conceal him. But that's not all. 302 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: There was more testimony today. Boy, the defense is going 303 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: to have a difficult time with today's testimony. The prosecution 304 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: is going out with a bang. They are expected to 305 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: wrap up their case today the defense. I don't even 306 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: know who they can call to the stand. Clearly it's 307 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: not going to be Hannah Dugan herself. She's not that dumb. 308 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: I honestly don't think they're good. They may not even 309 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: present a defense. I do not even know who they 310 00:19:55,800 --> 00:20:00,160 Speaker 1: could possibly call as a defendant to refute this out 311 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: of testimony. The prosecution today also called Mercedes de la Rosa, 312 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: the attorney for Flores Ruiz. She remembers being scared and 313 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: freaked out when she was in that restricted hallway after 314 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: she was hustled through the jury room exit away from 315 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: ICE agents along with her client, Floores Ruiz. She said 316 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: she was scared in part because she knew Ice was 317 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: on the floor and concerned because her client spoke Spanish. 318 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: Del Rosa said she was never told there was a 319 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 1: warrant for her client. Oh yeah, okay. She testified no 320 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: one told her to go down the stairs or that 321 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: there was a public staircase. While an audio recording indicated 322 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: that Dugan said to her go down the stairs, Dela 323 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: Rosa testified that she didn't hear it that morning, testifying, 324 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: my brain was spinning. It was good Friday, and I 325 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: didn't have any food or coffee. Okay, She didn't want 326 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: to say. Yeah. I absolutely heard the judge say take 327 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: your client and go downstairs, go down these stairs so 328 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: that he could evade Ice. She desperately didn't want to 329 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 1: admit it. But the bottom line is that today was 330 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 1: about as damning a day of testimony as Hannah Dugan 331 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 1: could have faced it. Again, I maintain she is not 332 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: just guilty. She just might be the guiltiest person in 333 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:42,959 Speaker 1: the entire universe right now. So we just outlined mountains 334 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 1: and mountains of evidence against Judge Hannah Dugan in the 335 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: form of testimony today and yesterday from a judicial colleague 336 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: who testified that Dugan tried to get her to go 337 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: out into the hallway in her robe to an intimidate 338 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: ICE agents who came to arrest a criminal, violent illegal 339 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: alien who was appearing before Dugan. Instead, this judge testified, Hey, 340 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: I was freaked out by this. I said, no, this 341 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 1: is not appropriate. This is not something that a judge 342 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: should do. I was worried that people would think I 343 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 1: was part of this plot too. It was so incredibly inappropriate. 344 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: An assistant district attorney who was in front of Hannah 345 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: Dugan the day that she allegedly helped this illegal alien escape, 346 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 1: testified that the jury room door that she shuttled Flores 347 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: Ruiz through was never used. She had never seen it unlocked, 348 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: let alone actually used as an exit, showing that Hannah 349 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: Dugan knew what she was doing. She was trying to 350 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: get this criminal illegal out so that Ice agents wouldn't 351 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: be able to follow him and that he'd be able 352 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: to get away. How did Dugan's dream team attorney respond 353 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: to this on cross examination? According to John Didrich, the 354 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: Journal Central reporter, who is in the courtroom, remember there 355 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 1: is no video or audio recording in most federal cases. 356 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: In fact, I don't think I've ever heard of a 357 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 1: video in a federal courtroom or even audio. John Dietrich, 358 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: Milwaukee Journal Central reporter, said Dugan's dream team attorney, Jason Luzak, 359 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: leading light of the legal community, brilliant legal mind. Actually, 360 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: on cross examination, he said to the assistant district attorney, 361 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: you were having a bad week that week, weren't you. 362 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: You might have misremembered what you thought you knew about 363 00:23:53,960 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: how the dream tour was working. Hmm, Ojay's dream Team, 364 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 1: This ain't Stephen Biscupik and Jason Luzac, and whoever the 365 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: other attorney is the woman I can't for the life 366 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: of me remember her name. They are grasping at the 367 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: most fleeting of straws here. You're having a bad week, 368 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: and therefore you don't know how often the jury door 369 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: is used. That's the best you got, Attorney Louzac. Remind 370 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: me if I ever get nailed for some if the 371 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: Libs ever get me for some sort of thought crime, please, 372 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 1: as much as I respect Stephen Biscupik, as much as 373 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: I actually do respect Jason Lusak. He's actually the son 374 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: of Dave Luzac, who is a He was a long 375 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 1: time now retired DJ on ninety six point five, Dave 376 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: and Carroll in the Morning. That's his son. And Jason 377 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: is actually very very good attorney. He's always been very 378 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 1: respect in my dealings with him. But if they ever 379 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: get me for thought crimes, not if the best they 380 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: can come up with on cross is so you were 381 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 1: having a bad week, problems at home. Yeah, you know, 382 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: you stepped in a puddle on the way into the courthouse. 383 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: That totally negates all your testimony. Right, I'm telling you 384 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: that their entire strategy is attempting to play to the 385 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: political leanings of the jurors. Nine men, five women, all white. 386 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: I would love to know what communities they're from, because 387 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: what you have to worry about is what's known as 388 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: jury nullification. And that is where the jury accepts that 389 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 1: the prosecution has presented enough evidence that it's met its burden, 390 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 1: that there is guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, but that 391 00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, maybe they don't like the law that 392 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 1: Dugan was prosecuted under. Maybe they think that Dugan is 393 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: a sympathetic defendant, maybe they want to stick it to 394 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: President Trump and Ice. Whatever it is, jurors do have 395 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: that power in our criminal justice system, in our civil 396 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 1: justice system, jurors can decide a verdict on whatever they want. 397 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 1: This is the whole concept of a jury of one's peers. Ultimately, 398 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: the people selected sort of at random for that duty 399 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: to try another citizen. They are not bound to make 400 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: their decision under the law. This is this is actually 401 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: a concept that dates back hundreds of years to common 402 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: law principles in Great Britain, where juries can essentially nullify. 403 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: They can they can strike back against what they perceive 404 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: to be an unjust law, and that I think is 405 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: what they're trying to do. Now. Somebody had asked about 406 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:02,479 Speaker 1: a concept called judgment notwithstanding the verdict, and what that 407 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: is is where a judge can get a verdict by 408 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: a jury and just say, okay, well, the jury completely 409 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 1: got it wrong. Here is the actual judgment. The jury 410 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: didn't understand the basic facts of the case. The jury 411 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: just so obviously aired that we are going to have 412 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: judgment notwithstanding the verdict. That does not work in criminal law, 413 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: only in civil law. I mean, could you imagine if 414 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: a jury of your peers acquitted you, and then a 415 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: judge said, wait, wait wait, wait, wait wait wait wait, 416 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 1: I find you guilty. No, it doesn't work. You don't 417 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: get judgment notwithstanding the verdict. What you've got to worry 418 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: about in this case if you are somebody who does 419 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 1: not want judges running rogue all over trampling the concept 420 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: of our criminal justice system like Dugan did. And that's 421 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: what people like don't think are quite focused on that 422 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 1: what Hannah Dugan did is at the worst thing that 423 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: a judge can do. Even though we imbue these people 424 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: with awesome power to take away the freedoms take away 425 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: sometimes in states with the death penalty the very lives 426 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 1: of other citizens, but doing so requires that they adhere 427 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 1: to the law of the state or the law of 428 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: the United States that binds them of the United States 429 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: if they're a federal judge. What Dugan did in shuttling 430 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:34,959 Speaker 1: this guy away from Ice agents knowingly shuttling him away 431 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:39,719 Speaker 1: from any sort of accountability for the violent crime that 432 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: he committed. He viciously beat his roommate and also assaulted 433 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: the roommate's girlfriend in an extremely violent attack. This guy 434 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: had already been deported once, and Dugan didn't just hide 435 00:28:54,280 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: the guy underneath a jury's a juror's seat. I said, okay, Eduardo, 436 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: it's safe to come out now the ICE agents have gone. 437 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: She instructed him to go and to run away, knowing 438 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: full well that there's no chance he's ever going to 439 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: come back to answer for the charges against him, knowing 440 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: full well that there would never be justice for the 441 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: roommate of the roommate's girlfriend, that they would just the 442 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: crimes against them would never be resolved, that they would 443 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: never have any sort of justice for being viciously attacked. 444 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: I can't think of a worse thing for a judge 445 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: to do. And the fact that you've got all these 446 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: crazies out there in front of the courtroom celebrating it 447 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: as though it's striking some heroic blow against Donald Trump 448 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: and his brown shirt Ice agents tells me that there 449 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: are a whole lot on the political left who, if 450 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: given the choice, would just do with the rule of 451 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: law as we know it and instead substitute their own 452 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: political and moral judgment for two hundred and fifty years 453 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: of American jurisprudence. That's a very dangerous place to be. 454 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: Some good news to report involving the story that we 455 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: first reported on yesterday, the crazy lib harassing the target worker. 456 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: Stay tuned, you're not going to want to miss this 457 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: follow up next. People on my YouTube comment section are 458 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: suggesting a top ten unhinged Liberals of the Year. I've 459 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: been thinking about that, folks. It's it's hard because I 460 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: have to go back through just hours and hours and 461 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: hours of footage, and I actually take off every year 462 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: the week between Christmas and New Year's I know, I 463 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: know I have taken off a lot over the last 464 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: two months. Look, I didn't know my brother was going 465 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: to get married in Mexico City. He kind of sprung 466 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: that on the entire family. It had a wonderful time, 467 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: but that in the same month as our listener trip 468 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: to Rome. I always do it because we have a 469 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: bunch of different Christmas things to go to, and frankly, 470 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: I kind of just need to recharge my batteries, especially 471 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: after a night like last night where just listen to 472 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: the podcast. Go to the iHeartRadio app, find and subscribe 473 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: to the Dan O'Donnell Show podcast and just look at 474 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: how much longer last night's podcast was than every other 475 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: podcast for those asking had a catastrophic server failure, and 476 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: on top of that, we also had our satellite receiver 477 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: go down. We used the satellite receiver as you could imagine, 478 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: to get programs from that are fed to us via 479 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: satellite Clay and Buck, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin Coast to 480 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: co All of the nationally syndicated programs could not be played. 481 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: So not only did we have the server on which 482 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: we have all of our commercial logs loaded go down 483 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: and we had to find a backup server on which 484 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: to play those, we also had a failure. I don't 485 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: know what happened if a rogue lightning bolt struck the station, 486 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: but we had both of these things that are related 487 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: but not intricately related, where if one goes down, you 488 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: would expect the other one to go down. We had 489 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: them both go down essentially simultaneously. So it was a 490 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: perfect storm of suck. And I had to broadcast first 491 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: for to what was it, producer Eric two and a 492 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: half hours? What was it? Two hours and twenty two 493 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: minutes without a commercial. I literally could not get off 494 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: to even let my wife know that wasn't going to 495 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: be able to make our daughter's Christmas orchestra concert, so 496 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: I had to call her live on the air. We 497 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: actually have video of that. Producer Eric pulled that from 498 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: our video fiend. We posted it on Facebook, Facebook, dot com, 499 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: slash Dan o'donald show, also our Instagram feed and on 500 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: x It is very cute. Hear my daughter is my 501 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: wife's got I think I connected to the van Bluetooth 502 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: and you know I'm not going to be able to 503 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: make the concert. She goes, that's okay, I understand. And 504 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: as I said earlier this hour, my father in law 505 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: gave his daughter my wife a D minus for her 506 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: performance on the air because she was so surprised to 507 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: be live on the air on the cell phone. So 508 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: a story we used for both the Unhinged Liberal and 509 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: Unsung Hero of the day has quite the update. We 510 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: have identified the woman who was berated by that unhinged 511 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: Karen Lib. She is Genie from Target. She is an 512 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: employee at a Target store. And she's an older woman 513 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: who was just working at Target and happen to be 514 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: wearing a red Charlie Kirk shirt while doing so, and god, 515 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: just berated by this insane leftist. 516 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 6: Why are you taking my shair? Why are you wearing 517 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 6: that shirt? 518 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,439 Speaker 1: Why do you let you wear that shirt? 519 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:13,760 Speaker 5: Shirt? 520 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 7: Yes? 521 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 4: Why are you. 522 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: Taking my thin shure? 523 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 6: Why are you wearing that shirt? You're working? 524 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: It's not a Target hair shirt. 525 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,720 Speaker 7: I can you wear red any red shirt. 526 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 6: It's not a plane shirt. It doesn't have to be 527 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:28,760 Speaker 6: a Charlie kirkshirt. 528 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: Yes, oh yes, I know. 529 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:31,760 Speaker 6: Are you faking stupid? 530 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 7: No? 531 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 6: Why the fuck would you wear that? You're at work 532 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 6: at Target. That's not a Target shirt. It's not a 533 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,320 Speaker 6: plane red shirt. You support a racist? 534 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,760 Speaker 1: It's not racist. You support a racist? 535 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 6: Yes he is, Yes, he fucking is. I'm sorry that 536 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 6: here arguing you're not You should go get your manager. 537 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 6: You should not be allowed to wear the artwork. Unacceptable, 538 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 6: unfreaking acceptable. Got your The opinion is he's a fucking 539 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 6: racist and you support him. Yes, you're here, and you 540 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 6: shouldn't a you should not be allowed to wear that. 541 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 6: This is going to be taken above your fucking head. 542 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 6: That's insane and safety and fucking safe piece. 543 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 1: Of I don't know why, but the Christmas music in 544 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 1: the background there just makes her unhinged outburst all that 545 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 1: much funnier. The update is that people have set up 546 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 1: a give send go to raise money so that Genie 547 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: from Target could take a little vacation. That gives send 548 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: Go has now raised one hundred and twenty plus thousand dollars, 549 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: so that Genie, who really behaved incredibly admirably while getting 550 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:57,800 Speaker 1: swore at, while just getting verbally abused by this awful woman, 551 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: So she is going to have a very merry Christmas, 552 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: very cool update to that story. Time now to name 553 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 1: today is unhinged liberal. 554 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 7: Nazi Germany. 555 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 8: Oh Touff is dangerous because. 556 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 4: He's evil. 557 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:27,399 Speaker 1: America is Today's unhinged liberal of the day is none 558 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 1: other than Fannie Willis. She is the Fulton County District 559 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 1: attorney who was until the investigation was shut down, prosecuting 560 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:41,240 Speaker 1: Donald Trump and many other people for the twenty twenty election. 561 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: She also very infamously employed her lover, which she didn't disclose, 562 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: as a special investigator. Special prosecutor in that case paid 563 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: him hundreds of thousands of dollars. She is now facing 564 00:36:55,120 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: a Georgia State Senate hearing and today went absolutely fallistic 565 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 1: during a hero What. 566 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 9: I can tell you is that I'll give your child, 567 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 9: mister Wade to build one hundred and sixty hours a week, 568 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 9: and then mister Wade would be the first one in 569 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 9: the office making sure that my staff arrived. He corrected 570 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,479 Speaker 9: their behavior. They thought that eight thirty men, eight thirty. 571 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 9: He taught them that eight thirty seven forty five. He 572 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,760 Speaker 9: got there before them, he left after him. He taught 573 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 9: them how to do this case. And he was a 574 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 9: leader to that team and a public servant. And for that, him, like. 575 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: Me, has been threatened. 576 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 9: There are thousands of times you want something to investigate 577 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 9: as a legislature, Investigate how many times they've called me 578 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 9: the N word? 579 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: Why don't you investigate that? Why don't you. 580 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 9: Investigate them writing on my house? Why don't you investigate 581 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,800 Speaker 9: the fact that my house has been swatted. If you 582 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 9: want something to do with your time, that makes sense, 583 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 9: and you can use all this in your campaign. And 584 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 9: you attacked Fannie Willis, what have you done, sir, nothing? 585 00:37:53,480 --> 00:38:00,359 Speaker 1: Biddy Willis, you're unhinged liberal of the death and from 586 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: all of us here at the Dan o'donald Show, we 587 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,959 Speaker 1: wish you a very merry Christmas, says well. Christmas Eve 588 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 1: now just one week away. Don't stress, relax. Everything will 589 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:17,240 Speaker 1: get done. It always does, from shopping to wrapping, to baking, 590 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 1: to cooking to getting where you need to be. This 591 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 1: is the most stressful time of year. But I assure 592 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 1: you all of your work will get done. And then 593 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 1: it is the most wonderful time of the year. Children 594 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 1: playing the joy of Christmas morning, seeing loved ones, spending 595 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 1: time with them. Ah. I just love the Christmas season 596 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: so so much. The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel wonders why our 597 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: property tax is so dog gone high. Well, you don't 598 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 1: learn until about paragraphs six or seven that it's because 599 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 1: Governor Evers used as partial veto authority to raise taxes 600 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:07,320 Speaker 1: or to allow local school districts to increase the property 601 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 1: tax levy for the next four hundred years. Not only that, 602 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 1: we have a couple of exclusive stories here on the 603 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 1: Dan o'donald Show. Just today, Democrats are introducing or circulating 604 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 1: for co sponsorship truly insane pieces of legislation designed openly, 605 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: explicitly designed at increasing the tax burden on you hardworking wisconsinits. 606 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: We will discuss those coming up in just a second, 607 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:41,320 Speaker 1: but first it is time now to get you updated 608 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: on what was going on in Donald Trump's Washington. It 609 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 1: is our daily segment, the Daily Trump Day. 610 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,720 Speaker 10: We're gonna win so much you may even get tired 611 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 10: of winning. 612 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,359 Speaker 1: Trump just keeps winning. It is a win for the administration. 613 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 7: It's also a big win for the United States. We 614 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,760 Speaker 7: have to keep winning. We have to win more. 615 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,439 Speaker 1: Gonna oh wait more. President Trump will address the nation 616 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:09,320 Speaker 1: to night nine eastern eight o'clock Central as he touts 617 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: his economic successes in his first nearly one year in 618 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 1: office since winning a second term last November. The President 619 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 1: is also going to chart the path ahead as he 620 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 1: and the Republicans face an all important mid term election 621 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 1: year in which the issue of affordability is likely going 622 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 1: to be front and center. Toward that end, big press 623 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: conference this morning in which Treasury Secretary Scott Vessant introduced 624 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: the thousand dollars Trump accounts and explain how exactly they're 625 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 1: going to work for babies born over the next three years. 626 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:53,279 Speaker 3: Eligible children born between January one, twenty twenty five and 627 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 3: December thirty one, twenty twenty eight will receive a one 628 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:02,360 Speaker 3: thousand dollars contribution from the Treasure Department that will immediately 629 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 3: be invested in an index fund. To claim this investment, 630 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 3: most families need merely check a box on four Form 631 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 3: forty five forty seven, the most aptly named text document 632 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:20,320 Speaker 3: of all time, the compound growth from Treasuries. 633 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 1: By the way, did you catch that Form forty five 634 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 1: forty seven I e. President Trump is the forty fifth 635 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 1: and forty seventh president. 636 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:32,759 Speaker 3: Initial c funding alone sans to make young Americans wealthy. 637 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 3: The S and P has grown at a rate of 638 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 3: ten point five percent each year on average since the 639 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:43,760 Speaker 3: nineteen fifties. Assuming that growth rate continues, a single one 640 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 3: thousand dollars deposit into a Trump account at birth will 641 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 3: grow to over six hundred thousand dollars by the age 642 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:55,880 Speaker 3: of retirement. Our president is putting the American dream within 643 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 3: reach of every citizen. No matter the circumstances of birth. 644 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,479 Speaker 1: This is a fantastic idea, of course, but it's also 645 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 1: rather infuriating because it should remind all Americans that we 646 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 1: should have privatized social security long ago, that we should 647 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:18,840 Speaker 1: have had funds as President George W. Bush valiantly attempted 648 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 1: to do. I think that would have been his single 649 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 1: biggest legacy, far and above waging the war on Terran, 650 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 1: ensuring that there wasn't another terror attack on American soil 651 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 1: on his watch. What he attempted to do was to 652 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 1: get funds that were indexed to the stock market, just 653 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 1: like these Trump accounts are, and the rate of growth 654 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 1: that people would have seen, and he would have been 655 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,799 Speaker 1: able to opt in, and it was just it was 656 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 1: a phenomenal idea. Of course, Democrats would not even allow 657 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,720 Speaker 1: this proposal to advance. I don't believe they even allowed 658 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 1: a vote on it that use procedural moves to block it. 659 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: All of our all of our net worth would have 660 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,760 Speaker 1: been much much higher social security. I don't know why 661 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 1: it is the third rail of American politics, but it 662 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 1: is absolutely a Ponzi scheme. It's the very definition of 663 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 1: a Ponzi scheme. Let's just really quickly. I want to 664 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,920 Speaker 1: elaborate on that in a second. But finally, today the 665 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 1: President and Secretary of War Pete Hegesith took part in 666 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 1: the dignified transfer of the remains of three Americans, two 667 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 1: National Guard soldiers from Iowa and an interpreter who were 668 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 1: tragically killed in a terror attack in Syria. Again, the 669 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 1: President will address the nation at eight o'clock Central to 670 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:41,279 Speaker 1: night that, ladies and gentlemen, is your daily Trump Day? 671 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,319 Speaker 1: Do we know producer Eric is Wysn going to be 672 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 1: carrying the president's address? We are, I'm not actually on 673 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 1: that email chain. If we are, I'm sure I'll get 674 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 1: a text from Jerry Bott saying yes, we are going 675 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 1: to carry the address. Otherwise it's going to be everywhere. 676 00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 1: It's going to be interesting to see if the major 677 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:04,399 Speaker 1: TV networks actually will carry this address, knowing that it's 678 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,479 Speaker 1: just President Trump essentially taking a victory lap talking about 679 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 1: all his economic and border and foreign policy successes. Or 680 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,960 Speaker 1: is it only going to be accessible on Newsmax and 681 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 1: Fox News. Is CNN going to cut away or are 682 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,399 Speaker 1: they going to do that thing where they have him 683 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:27,320 Speaker 1: talking but they've also got you know, the the CNN 684 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 1: tonight panel talking over him. We shall see, but I 685 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 1: believe wisn is going to is going to Eric I 686 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,359 Speaker 1: listen at eight o'clock. If you don't hear the president talking, 687 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 1: turn on Fox News. That's the best. That's the best 688 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 1: I can tell you. I don't know. But in terms 689 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,239 Speaker 1: of Social Security, it is absolutely How is this not 690 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,839 Speaker 1: a Ponzi scheme? The classic like the guy Ponzi who 691 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 1: the Ponzi scheme is named after. What a Ponzi scheme 692 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 1: is is earlier investors into the scheme are paid with 693 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 1: the money of newer investors. You don't have the money 694 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 1: that you invested over the course of your lifetime of 695 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,799 Speaker 1: working in Social Security. It is not, as Al Gore 696 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 1: rather infamously said in the two thousand presidential election, it's 697 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 1: not in a lock box. It is not kept in 698 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:32,439 Speaker 1: a lock box for you until you retire. That that's 699 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,800 Speaker 1: a travesty should be invested for you. You are paying 700 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 1: into the system, but instead the government is taking that 701 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,319 Speaker 1: money to pay for god knows what it wants to 702 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:48,759 Speaker 1: spend money on in that given year, and then you 703 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,880 Speaker 1: are paid later decades later with the money that is 704 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 1: coming in from Social Security. Taxes of younger people that 705 00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 1: is one hundred percent. So you're social Security benefits if 706 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,759 Speaker 1: you are on Social Security right now, if you're getting 707 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 1: Social Security, you are getting paid with my money. You're welcome. 708 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 1: Don't you think if all of that money that was 709 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 1: just sort of automatically taken from your paycheck was invested 710 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 1: on your behalf, like in a Trump account, the market 711 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 1: would do far better than just government paying you a pittance. 712 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,880 Speaker 1: Of course it would. George W. Bush tried to change that, 713 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 1: and you had a whole lot of Democrats convince vulnerable 714 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:43,439 Speaker 1: baby boomers and Greatest generation ers that Bush was going 715 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 1: to take your social Security money and he was going 716 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 1: to play the what was it the stock market casino? 717 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,880 Speaker 1: Do you know? There has never been a decade in 718 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:57,280 Speaker 1: American history, including the nineteen thirties, where the American stock 719 00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 1: market has not been higher at the end of the 720 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 1: decade then at the beginning. Not one. It has always 721 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:09,360 Speaker 1: gone up. Sure there's ups and downs, but it's always 722 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:14,799 Speaker 1: going up. There has always been a steady increase, and 723 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,920 Speaker 1: if you look over the lifespan of the American market, 724 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 1: it has been a steady increase. There have been ups, 725 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,920 Speaker 1: there have been massive highs. There have been massive dips. 726 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,040 Speaker 1: Nineteen thirty or nineteen twenty nine was the big crash, 727 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,239 Speaker 1: and then two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine 728 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 1: when we had the Great Recession. Those are notable dips. 729 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 1: But we have been up exponentially since the Great Recession. 730 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,719 Speaker 1: In fact, we've been up exponentially since Liberation Day. When 731 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 1: liberals told us that Donald Trump was going to tank 732 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,640 Speaker 1: the economy. When liberals told us that all of these 733 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:55,400 Speaker 1: tariffs are going to destroy the American economy, they didn't. 734 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,040 Speaker 1: Were they a complete panacea that President Trump promised? No, 735 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 1: absolutely not. Do I believe that the market would be 736 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:05,799 Speaker 1: even higher if not for those tariffs? Yes, absolutely I do. 737 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,600 Speaker 1: Am I at heart still a free trader who believes 738 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:15,280 Speaker 1: that tariffs ultimately are taxes on the American consumer because 739 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:19,719 Speaker 1: they get passed on from companies to the end point 740 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,839 Speaker 1: user of the product, i e. The purchaser of the product. Yes, 741 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:27,319 Speaker 1: of course, it's basic economics. But do I also understand 742 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 1: that the end goal for President Trump is not just 743 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:35,760 Speaker 1: permanent revenue through tariffs or the replacement of the federal 744 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,959 Speaker 1: income tax with tariff revenue, as we actually had before 745 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:43,920 Speaker 1: nineteen sixteen and the Federal Income Tax Act. Our federal 746 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,400 Speaker 1: government is simply far too big to fund entirely with 747 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,080 Speaker 1: tariff revenue. We would have to be tariffing everybody at 748 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,319 Speaker 1: about a one thousand percent rate to pay for the 749 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:58,480 Speaker 1: two point one five million non military federal employees. That 750 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,759 Speaker 1: number still absolutely mind just boggles my mind how big 751 00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:07,719 Speaker 1: our federal government is. But do I understand that ultimately 752 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:12,560 Speaker 1: the goal is to get American products into other markets 753 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:18,200 Speaker 1: and to make countries less able to just play protectionism 754 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:22,000 Speaker 1: with their own homegrown products. What President Trump has been 755 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:27,680 Speaker 1: saying is, look, we believe that American toothpaste, American cereal, 756 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:36,320 Speaker 1: American widgets, American made products are superior or American marketed products. 757 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,239 Speaker 1: The actual product might be assembled in Sri Lanka, but 758 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,799 Speaker 1: ultimately it's an American product. We believe that those are 759 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:48,400 Speaker 1: much better than whatever crap they have in Croatia. So 760 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,920 Speaker 1: we want and I'm just picking on Croatia. I just 761 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 1: picked that country at random. It's a wonderful country, very 762 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 1: conservative country. But we think that American made goods and 763 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:03,120 Speaker 1: American products are superior to Croatian products. But Croatia may have, 764 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:10,320 Speaker 1: if not tariffs, all manner of protectionist regulations, non tariff 765 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:14,239 Speaker 1: boundaries to free trade that we want to force them 766 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:18,759 Speaker 1: to change. Now, if a Croatian product does not have 767 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:23,000 Speaker 1: access to the American marketplace because it's simply not profitable 768 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,719 Speaker 1: for them to do so because of all of the 769 00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:28,640 Speaker 1: new teriffs that President Trump imposed, well then the president 770 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,640 Speaker 1: of Croatia needs to come to the bargaining table and say, 771 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,759 Speaker 1: all right, America, we are going to eliminate or dramatically 772 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:39,680 Speaker 1: reduce those non tariff trade boundaries. I understand what the 773 00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 1: President is doing at an intellectual level, but I also 774 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,960 Speaker 1: understand that we are a nation that imports a whole 775 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:53,440 Speaker 1: lot of stuff and we are not helping ourselves. It's 776 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:58,319 Speaker 1: the biggest issue is making that stuff that we import 777 00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:03,400 Speaker 1: more affordable, not only to purchase, but also to produce 778 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:07,839 Speaker 1: and bring over here. If we're putting taxes on that, 779 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:12,320 Speaker 1: that's not helping things Ultimately, Though, when President Trump talks 780 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:17,200 Speaker 1: about bringing back American manufacturing, I do hope everybody understands 781 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:21,480 Speaker 1: what it is he means. It's not as though we're 782 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:25,480 Speaker 1: going to go back to the nineteen forties and nineteen fifties, 783 00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:31,920 Speaker 1: where there was an unprecedented rise in American manufacturing, largely 784 00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 1: because Europe was decimated following the war and the United 785 00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:41,480 Speaker 1: States effectively rebuilt Europe and took over as the global 786 00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:46,280 Speaker 1: leader in manufacturing almost by default, a title it held 787 00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,640 Speaker 1: probably until the mid nineteen nineties with the rise of 788 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:54,680 Speaker 1: China and the former Third World. What Trump is talking 789 00:51:54,719 --> 00:52:00,680 Speaker 1: about is manufacturing here in the United States without massive 790 00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:05,560 Speaker 1: amounts of workers. What he clearly is oriented towards is 791 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:12,440 Speaker 1: an AI based, robotic based manufacturing sector here in the 792 00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:16,840 Speaker 1: United States, where you do have very high paying jobs 793 00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:22,279 Speaker 1: of the people who are essentially overseeing the smart robotic technology, 794 00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 1: AI infused robotic technology that are making cars here, that 795 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:32,320 Speaker 1: are making airplanes here, you don't have, like say, in China, 796 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,480 Speaker 1: they will have factories with I don't think we quite 797 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:40,880 Speaker 1: grasp how impossibly large Chinese factories are. There are factories 798 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,839 Speaker 1: that are the size of three city blocks. There are 799 00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:50,759 Speaker 1: factories that employ forty thousand people. He's not envisioning that 800 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,920 Speaker 1: here in the United States. We don't have the manpower, 801 00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,640 Speaker 1: and our standard of living is such that we don't 802 00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,520 Speaker 1: have the ability to pay that many people to work 803 00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:05,400 Speaker 1: in a factory and to make shoelaces. What he's saying 804 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:09,160 Speaker 1: is we don't need people to make shoelaces. We don't 805 00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:15,640 Speaker 1: need forty thousand people to make relatively inexpensive things. If 806 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:17,680 Speaker 1: we can corner the market, if we can be the 807 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:22,359 Speaker 1: global leader in artificial intelligence, what we can do is 808 00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:28,879 Speaker 1: harness American technology, harness American ingenuity, and essentially create an 809 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:34,320 Speaker 1: entirely new manufacturing sector. Look, it's not a coincidence, folks, 810 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:38,640 Speaker 1: that pretty much every one of the great technological innovations 811 00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:42,680 Speaker 1: over the past one hundred years has come from America. 812 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:46,520 Speaker 1: It's either been entirely developed in America or it has 813 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:52,000 Speaker 1: been refined and perfected and produced for mass consumption by 814 00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:56,719 Speaker 1: America or American innovators. And it's because we are the 815 00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:00,400 Speaker 1: place where you are free, and because we are the 816 00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,600 Speaker 1: place where you have the profit motive to be wealthy 817 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:08,160 Speaker 1: beyond your wildest dreams by creating something that makes the 818 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,839 Speaker 1: rest of the world wealthier for you having invented it, 819 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,480 Speaker 1: we are all wealthier. Every single one of us is 820 00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:21,239 Speaker 1: wealthier because Steve Jobs became a billionaire, and Wosniak. Every 821 00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:26,000 Speaker 1: one of us is wealthier because Jeff Bezos became a multi, multi, 822 00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,719 Speaker 1: multi billionaire, especially those of us who don't have our 823 00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:34,120 Speaker 1: Christmas shopping done yet and are really counting on that 824 00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:40,640 Speaker 1: Amazon Prime next day delivery. You understand how that works. 825 00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:44,080 Speaker 1: It's that we are not just wealthy in terms of 826 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,480 Speaker 1: the amount of dollars that we have. We are wealthy 827 00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,759 Speaker 1: in terms of what we are able to buy with 828 00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:54,560 Speaker 1: those dollars. President Trump is a president who stands at 829 00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:59,600 Speaker 1: the precipice of a complete overhaul, not just in the 830 00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:03,239 Speaker 1: globe economy with the advent of AI and smart robotics, 831 00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:10,520 Speaker 1: but the transformation of human civilization with this technology. I 832 00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,520 Speaker 1: truly do believe that, and I believe what he is 833 00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:17,680 Speaker 1: attempting to do is to get ahead of that and say, look, 834 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:23,520 Speaker 1: we aren't manufacturing things here yet, but when we develop 835 00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:29,799 Speaker 1: smart factories and smart warehouses and driverless trucks to get 836 00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,319 Speaker 1: this stuff all over where do you think people are 837 00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,759 Speaker 1: going to want to manufacture that? If you don't have 838 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:39,719 Speaker 1: to deal with employee unions that are requiring a guy 839 00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,600 Speaker 1: who is stuffing a box all day to make seventy 840 00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:46,680 Speaker 1: five thousand dollars a year plus insanely good benefits and 841 00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:51,080 Speaker 1: a pension, of course, they're going to want to manufacture 842 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,239 Speaker 1: things instead of putting them on a shipping container and 843 00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,279 Speaker 1: having it take three weeks to get from the law 844 00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:01,719 Speaker 1: on the slow boat from China. You manufacture things in 845 00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,760 Speaker 1: a smart facility in the United States, and the costs 846 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,560 Speaker 1: are next to nothing to get them out to the 847 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:12,279 Speaker 1: major population centers New York, Los Angeles, Chicago and get 848 00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,200 Speaker 1: the goods in stores. I mean, this to me is 849 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:20,319 Speaker 1: a no brainer. But in the interim there is going 850 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:24,480 Speaker 1: to be some pain. So I understand. I just understand 851 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:28,440 Speaker 1: the strategy that President Trump is an acting Democrats, though, 852 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,600 Speaker 1: are blaming him for an affordability crisis of their own making, 853 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:37,200 Speaker 1: and here in Wisconsin some truly insane proposals for new 854 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:41,320 Speaker 1: taxes being circulated in the legislature today. It is a 855 00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,799 Speaker 1: Dan O'Donnell show exclusive, and it's coming up in just 856 00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:50,440 Speaker 1: three minutes. President Trump will address the nation at eight 857 00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,600 Speaker 1: o'clock tonight. Coming up in about a half hour, we 858 00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,640 Speaker 1: will get a preview of it from our old friend 859 00:56:56,719 --> 00:57:00,440 Speaker 1: Kirsten Pells. She was a long time staffer with Senator 860 00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:04,080 Speaker 1: Ron Johnson and she is now a national Press secretary 861 00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:07,719 Speaker 1: with the Republican National Committee. We'll talk to her at 862 00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:12,880 Speaker 1: about five six. Big development in the Morgan geyser case 863 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:17,280 Speaker 1: this afternoon. We'll discuss that. And did you know I 864 00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:22,240 Speaker 1: did not realize until probably forty five minutes ago that 865 00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,919 Speaker 1: the power Bowl jackpot is up to like one point 866 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:32,840 Speaker 1: two billion dollars for tonight's drawing. That's utterly insane. This 867 00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,960 Speaker 1: is the first time I think that we have had 868 00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:42,520 Speaker 1: back to back Powerball jackpots that people are are going 869 00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:44,280 Speaker 1: to be able to play for over a billion dollars. 870 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:50,960 Speaker 1: Hold on one second, folks, one point twenty five billion, 871 00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:54,640 Speaker 1: says producer Eric. Sorry, I just had to plug in 872 00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:58,240 Speaker 1: my computer, the one that handles our streaming. We are 873 00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:04,240 Speaker 1: streaming live via the dadcam on x at Dano'donaldshowfacebook, dot com, 874 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:07,240 Speaker 1: slash dano'donald Show, Instagram at Dan O'donnald's Show, and the 875 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,800 Speaker 1: Dan o'donnald Show on YouTube. Please do give us a 876 00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:15,800 Speaker 1: follow across social media. Yeah, so far, so good. On 877 00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:22,840 Speaker 1: the commercial front, we have we have had no issues whatsoever. 878 00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:26,600 Speaker 1: Are we sure at six o'clock we're going to be 879 00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,680 Speaker 1: able to go to Sean Hannity. I mean we went 880 00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:32,320 Speaker 1: to Clay and Buck this afternoon without an issue. Yesterday 881 00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,240 Speaker 1: For those of you who missed the program, I had 882 00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:39,960 Speaker 1: to broadcast for two and a half straight hours without 883 00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,560 Speaker 1: a commercial break, and then had to go until seven 884 00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:46,400 Speaker 1: point thirty with very limited commercials because we had a 885 00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:51,120 Speaker 1: catastrophic system crash. I definitely did not expect that one, 886 00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:59,600 Speaker 1: all right. While Democrats are complaining about affordability and saying 887 00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:04,720 Speaker 1: that President Trump is making things unaffordable, they are also 888 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:14,520 Speaker 1: doing this. Circulated for co sponsorship today by Representatives Ryan Clancy, 889 00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:21,720 Speaker 1: Francesca Han, Christian Phelps, Darren Madison, Angelito Tenorio, and Ahmad 890 00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:26,680 Speaker 1: Riviera Wagner, as well as Senator Chris Larson, the farthest 891 00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:32,400 Speaker 1: of far left representatives. Is a bill that would authorize 892 00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:38,480 Speaker 1: counties and municipalities to impose local income taxes on high 893 00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:45,600 Speaker 1: income tax payers and make an appropriation. According to the 894 00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:51,400 Speaker 1: Legislative Reference Bureau, the bill allows counties and municipalities to 895 00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:57,280 Speaker 1: impose a local income tax by adopting an ordinance that 896 00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:02,560 Speaker 1: would impose a tax on Wisconsin taxable income in excess 897 01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:07,000 Speaker 1: of one million dollars for individuals and married couples who 898 01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:13,600 Speaker 1: file jointly, it's a wealth tax. This would be the 899 01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:18,400 Speaker 1: first municipal income tax in Wisconsin's history. We have a 900 01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:22,000 Speaker 1: state income tax. We have a federal income tax, and 901 01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:26,520 Speaker 1: then we would have a municipal income tax. Theoretically, you 902 01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,000 Speaker 1: could have a county income tax and you could also 903 01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:34,000 Speaker 1: have a municipal income tax. For example, how much you 904 01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:36,720 Speaker 1: want a wager if this bill would ever be passed 905 01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:40,120 Speaker 1: and it's being circulated for co sponsorship, You've got until 906 01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:45,640 Speaker 1: January twentieth if you want to co sponsor this. It's 907 01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,760 Speaker 1: never going to see the floor, which I think is 908 01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:52,040 Speaker 1: a mistake. I think every one of these crazy proposals 909 01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,840 Speaker 1: should be put up for a vote while Republicans control 910 01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:59,000 Speaker 1: the state legislature so that in an election year, voters 911 01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:03,640 Speaker 1: can see who exactly is voting to tax them more. 912 01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:10,960 Speaker 1: Dane County would absolutely vote to impose a county income 913 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:14,280 Speaker 1: tax on residents who have taxable income of a million 914 01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:17,720 Speaker 1: dollars or more. So too with the city of Madison. 915 01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,120 Speaker 1: So therefore, if you live in Madison, you would face 916 01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:23,120 Speaker 1: a municipal income tax, a county income tax, a state 917 01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:26,000 Speaker 1: income tax, and a federal income tax. What do you 918 01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:30,880 Speaker 1: think you would do to avoid two of those taxes? 919 01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:36,120 Speaker 1: Move The wealthiest people are also the most mobile in society, 920 01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:40,120 Speaker 1: and they're also the most adept at tax avoidance, not 921 01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:47,120 Speaker 1: illegal tax avoidance, but they're able to shield income from taxation. 922 01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:52,280 Speaker 1: What's another major problem with this. A whole lot of 923 01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:58,520 Speaker 1: companies are actually taxed at the individual taxpayer level. Closely 924 01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:05,920 Speaker 1: held businesses LLC's sole proprietorships, they are taxed as what's 925 01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:11,880 Speaker 1: known as pass through income. Just because an individual who say, 926 01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:16,680 Speaker 1: is the sole proprietor of a successful business shows income 927 01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:20,360 Speaker 1: in excess of a million dollars, that does not mean 928 01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:25,120 Speaker 1: that that individual has made a million dollars that year. 929 01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:29,400 Speaker 1: That means that the business has grossed a million dollars. 930 01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:33,480 Speaker 1: The individual, by necessity has to put a significant portion 931 01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:35,920 Speaker 1: of that money back into the business to pay employees, 932 01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:42,720 Speaker 1: business costs, capital improvement, whatever. But it would be taxed 933 01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:46,680 Speaker 1: not only at the state level or the federal level, 934 01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,720 Speaker 1: but now at the municipal and potential county level as well. 935 01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:51,600 Speaker 1: What do you think that is going to do for 936 01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,120 Speaker 1: new business growth? What do you think that is going 937 01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:57,760 Speaker 1: to do a lot of restaurants, a lot of bars, 938 01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:03,400 Speaker 1: a lot of service industry type businesses use passed through 939 01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:09,080 Speaker 1: income for the owner in order to avoid all of 940 01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:14,160 Speaker 1: the issues of filing a corporation at type C corporation tax. 941 01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:18,640 Speaker 1: It's just easier to tax the individual who is listed 942 01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:22,000 Speaker 1: as the sole proprietor or the owner of the LLC. 943 01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:25,520 Speaker 1: It's just much more. It's just much easier to have 944 01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,840 Speaker 1: passed through income show up on a personal income tax statement. 945 01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:33,640 Speaker 1: This sure sounds like it's going to tax everybody whose 946 01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:36,120 Speaker 1: income is in excess of a million dollars. And again, 947 01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:40,160 Speaker 1: what does Margaret Thatcher? What did she famously say, eventually 948 01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:43,439 Speaker 1: you run out of other people's money. So as we're 949 01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:47,640 Speaker 1: constantly expanding government, as we're constantly spending more and more 950 01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:54,200 Speaker 1: and more under liberal Democrat leadership, just taxing people over 951 01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,360 Speaker 1: a million dollars in income isn't going to be enough. 952 01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:59,960 Speaker 1: Pretty soon, you're going to see those counties and those 953 01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:04,640 Speaker 1: municipalities who become dependent on that income tax say, hey, 954 01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:06,560 Speaker 1: it's not enough. We're going to start needing to tax 955 01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:09,680 Speaker 1: people who make more than half a million dollars, than 956 01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:15,160 Speaker 1: a quarter of a million dollars, than one hundred thousand dollars. 957 01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:19,280 Speaker 1: As producer Eric says, the million dollar income tax is 958 01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:25,800 Speaker 1: their gateway drug to taxing everybody. Now, if that wasn't enough, Also, 959 01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:32,680 Speaker 1: today Democrats introduced an estate tax. They are circulating co 960 01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:39,160 Speaker 1: sponsorship on the establishment of a state estate tax, Representatives 961 01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:44,520 Speaker 1: Ryan Clancy, Darren Madison, Francesco Hank, Christian Phelps, Angelito Tenorio Supreme, 962 01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:49,800 Speaker 1: more Uma Kunde, and Ahmaud Riviera Wagner joining by joining 963 01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:53,600 Speaker 1: Senator Chris Larson. Here's what they have the absolute stones 964 01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:57,560 Speaker 1: to say. Under President Trump's guidance, the United States economy 965 01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:03,360 Speaker 1: is becoming more expensive, more unequal, and more dysfunctional. His 966 01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:06,480 Speaker 1: massive twenty twenty five tax cut for the rich hasn't 967 01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:09,520 Speaker 1: led to the promised gains in job creation, economic growth, 968 01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:13,440 Speaker 1: or development of domestic manufacturing. Instead, our public infrastructure is 969 01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:16,720 Speaker 1: falling apart while the rich get richer. The state of 970 01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,360 Speaker 1: Wisconsin can no longer rely on the federal government to 971 01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:22,880 Speaker 1: do its job or even make timely payments of funding 972 01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:27,040 Speaker 1: appropriated by Congress. Thankfully, we can ensure more stability in 973 01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:32,440 Speaker 1: revenue and funding of program services and infrastructure by restoring 974 01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:41,760 Speaker 1: a common sense estate tax. In Wisconsin, any large estate 975 01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:51,360 Speaker 1: valued at over fifteen million dollars is subject to a 976 01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:58,040 Speaker 1: federalist state tax that, according to the Tax Policy Institute 977 01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:03,640 Speaker 1: in Wisconsin, did twenty billion dollars in federal tax revenue. 978 01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:07,480 Speaker 1: The authors of this bill say Wisconsin can impose a 979 01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:11,440 Speaker 1: smaller estate tax rate and generate substantial, much needed revenue, 980 01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:15,080 Speaker 1: also allowing the state of Wisconsin to rely less on 981 01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:19,200 Speaker 1: a regressive revenue source such as property taxes, sales taxes, 982 01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:23,360 Speaker 1: and fees aer fines. This reinstates an estate tax, exempting 983 01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:28,960 Speaker 1: farm land and starting with estates valued at over five 984 01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:32,480 Speaker 1: million dollars, taxing them at six point six percent, and 985 01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:37,200 Speaker 1: fully applying to estates valued at over fifteen million dollars. 986 01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:44,120 Speaker 1: The fundamental problem with estate taxes is double taxation. Almost 987 01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:47,880 Speaker 1: all of the wealth in an estate has already been 988 01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:53,000 Speaker 1: taxed during the person who died their lifetime. First of all, 989 01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:56,480 Speaker 1: its taxes as income. This is something that liberals just 990 01:06:56,640 --> 01:07:03,040 Speaker 1: do not fundamentally understand. First, you make money that is 991 01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:07,040 Speaker 1: taxed at probably the highest tax rate for someone who 992 01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:10,960 Speaker 1: is a very high income earner. It's taxed as income. 993 01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:18,080 Speaker 1: Then it's invested, Then it gets taxed again. If there 994 01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:22,520 Speaker 1: is any profit taken from the capital gain of a 995 01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:28,760 Speaker 1: stock or an appreciable asset, that's two taxes. Then you 996 01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:33,440 Speaker 1: tax it again just because you want to transfer it 997 01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:39,400 Speaker 1: to your son or daughter that's not double taxation, that's 998 01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:46,920 Speaker 1: triple taxation. There is also, in fact, a lot of 999 01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:53,080 Speaker 1: data that says estate taxes are probably the least deficient 1000 01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:58,160 Speaker 1: taxes that the federal government relies on because compliance costs 1001 01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:04,280 Speaker 1: are so insanely high. In other words, trying to make 1002 01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:08,080 Speaker 1: sure that the decedent has paid the proper amount in 1003 01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:12,600 Speaker 1: a state tax is usually close to what the estate 1004 01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:16,559 Speaker 1: tax actually raises. It's almost impossible to believe, but it 1005 01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:21,720 Speaker 1: is true. Less than one percent of federal receipts in 1006 01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:29,280 Speaker 1: a given year are attributable to estate taxes. Now you'd think, okay, well, 1007 01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:32,519 Speaker 1: not a lot of people have fifteen million dollars or 1008 01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:36,840 Speaker 1: more in estates. That is true, But when you think 1009 01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:40,240 Speaker 1: about the fact that it's costing fifteen million dollars or 1010 01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:45,120 Speaker 1: whatever it is per estate in order to make sure 1011 01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:50,160 Speaker 1: that because we have obviously so many IRS agents who 1012 01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:54,599 Speaker 1: are trying to ensure compliance. Remember we tried to get 1013 01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:59,000 Speaker 1: rid of eighty seven thousand IRS agents. Remember we tried 1014 01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:02,000 Speaker 1: to get rid of federal bloat, and the left screamed 1015 01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:07,000 Speaker 1: bloody murder and tried to stop Doge at every single turn. Well, 1016 01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:10,280 Speaker 1: this is what happens in order to get a very 1017 01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:14,479 Speaker 1: little return on the investment in all of those federal 1018 01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:17,920 Speaker 1: workers who are trying to ensure that people are paying 1019 01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:22,879 Speaker 1: their estate taxes. Oftentimes you don't generate nearly the revenue 1020 01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:26,200 Speaker 1: that you think you will, and it's just a waste 1021 01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:28,880 Speaker 1: of time. It's a waste of resources because you're not 1022 01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:34,880 Speaker 1: bringing in all that much money. Again, you could seize 1023 01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:40,719 Speaker 1: every single cent from every single billionaire in this country, 1024 01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:43,479 Speaker 1: including Elon Muski's. We're something like six hundred billion dollars. 1025 01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:47,799 Speaker 1: You take every every dime he's got, every stock, every 1026 01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:52,080 Speaker 1: every asset. You could take everything from every single billionaire. 1027 01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:54,800 Speaker 1: It would fund the government for a grand total of 1028 01:09:54,960 --> 01:10:01,439 Speaker 1: six to eight months. That's the reality. We don't have 1029 01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:04,479 Speaker 1: a revenue problem in the federal government or the state. 1030 01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:09,679 Speaker 1: We have a spending problem, and yet Democrats still want 1031 01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:13,519 Speaker 1: to tax you more to spend more. The Journal Sentinel 1032 01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,880 Speaker 1: finally discovers that property taxes have gone through the roof. 1033 01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:18,920 Speaker 1: We'll get to that next on the Dan O'Donnell show. 1034 01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:27,680 Speaker 1: Real Deep Dive by the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. Property taxes 1035 01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:33,439 Speaker 1: are surging in Wisconsin. Here's what's behind the rise. Local 1036 01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:37,839 Speaker 1: government tax levies will see their largest increase since twenty eighteen, 1037 01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:42,759 Speaker 1: including a seven point eight percent hike in K twelve 1038 01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:46,240 Speaker 1: property taxes, the highest amounts in more than three decades. 1039 01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:49,479 Speaker 1: That's according to a new report by the Wisconsin Policy 1040 01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:53,800 Speaker 1: for Analyzing Property tax bills hit Wisconsinits As bills hit 1041 01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:57,360 Speaker 1: Wisconsinight's mailboxes this month, county property rates are also set 1042 01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:00,200 Speaker 1: to rise three point one percent, the report notes, which 1043 01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:03,640 Speaker 1: follows the trend of recent years. Well, you don't actually 1044 01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:08,960 Speaker 1: get to paragraph seven, and I actually expected this would 1045 01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:15,400 Speaker 1: get to paragraph fifteen before we get this. That jump 1046 01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:18,600 Speaker 1: is fueled largely by two factors, decisions made in the 1047 01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:22,360 Speaker 1: most recent state budgets and referendums passed at the local 1048 01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:24,640 Speaker 1: level by voters who agreed to pay higher taxes at 1049 01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:27,599 Speaker 1: the request of school districts. The twenty twenty three twenty 1050 01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:30,759 Speaker 1: twenty five state budget included a measure to increase district's 1051 01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:33,519 Speaker 1: state imposed limits on how much revenue they are allowed 1052 01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:35,840 Speaker 1: to raise each year by three hundred and twenty five 1053 01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:39,920 Speaker 1: dollars per student. Democratic Governor Tony Evers, a former public 1054 01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:44,000 Speaker 1: school educator, used his powerful partial veto authority to extend 1055 01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:47,800 Speaker 1: that provision for four hundred years, meaning school districts may 1056 01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:52,160 Speaker 1: raise revenue by that amount each year until twenty four, 1057 01:11:52,880 --> 01:12:00,800 Speaker 1: twenty five. So, in case you're wondering who's responsible, took 1058 01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:05,360 Speaker 1: seven paragraphs, but even the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel admits that, Yeah, 1059 01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:10,440 Speaker 1: it's Governor Evers and the Wisconsin Supreme Court that bizarrely 1060 01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:16,160 Speaker 1: ruled that this veto, this obvious Frankenstein veto was or 1061 01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:19,400 Speaker 1: I guess technically it's an unconstitutional fan of White veto 1062 01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:27,800 Speaker 1: was somehow constitutional and lawful. If you think that this 1063 01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:33,240 Speaker 1: year's property taxes are bad, just remember that your local 1064 01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:39,240 Speaker 1: school district can increase it by the same amount next year, 1065 01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:45,160 Speaker 1: and the year after, and the year after and every 1066 01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:50,280 Speaker 1: year until the year twenty four to twenty five. It 1067 01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:56,080 Speaker 1: almost seems unbelievable, but it's true. I don't think people 1068 01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:59,479 Speaker 1: quite believed me when I was warning about this, when 1069 01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:02,280 Speaker 1: first or Evers did it in the summer of twenty 1070 01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:06,120 Speaker 1: twenty three, and then when it was upheld by the 1071 01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:10,280 Speaker 1: Wisconsin Supreme Court in this past spring, that this is 1072 01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:17,000 Speaker 1: going to cost your great grandchildren's great grandchildren thousands and 1073 01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:20,240 Speaker 1: thousands and thousands of dollars. And what's so galling about 1074 01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:24,520 Speaker 1: it is that the number of K twelve students keeps declining, 1075 01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:29,440 Speaker 1: but the number of school administrators and teachers keeps increasing. 1076 01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:32,960 Speaker 1: Explain to me how that one works. There's less of 1077 01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:36,360 Speaker 1: a need for a service, ergo, there is less of 1078 01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:40,120 Speaker 1: a need for people to provide that service. But because 1079 01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:43,400 Speaker 1: you are the one paying the bill, well, we can 1080 01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:47,120 Speaker 1: just continue to dump more and more and more money 1081 01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:53,720 Speaker 1: into salary for that service. And Democrats are the ones 1082 01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,919 Speaker 1: who care about affordability. I see the official gov evers 1083 01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:01,880 Speaker 1: x account posting over and over and over again about 1084 01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:04,880 Speaker 1: affordability and blaming President Trump and saying, well, Donald Trump 1085 01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:09,480 Speaker 1: has made life unaffordable. Fever, dude, you just jacked everybody's 1086 01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:14,560 Speaker 1: property tax rate by three hundred and twenty five dollars 1087 01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:22,120 Speaker 1: per student. This means you're looking at a thousand bucks 1088 01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:25,360 Speaker 1: minimum every single year. Your taxes are just going to 1089 01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:31,040 Speaker 1: rise in perpetuity, or at least until twenty four twenty five. 1090 01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:34,920 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, let's get some good news to wrap 1091 01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:37,520 Speaker 1: up this hour. It's time now to name the unsung 1092 01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:50,200 Speaker 1: hero of the deck. Today's unsung Hero of the day 1093 01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:55,400 Speaker 1: is Bill Dillon. He is a one hundred one year 1094 01:14:55,439 --> 01:15:00,439 Speaker 1: old Army veteran who was speaking at a part at 1095 01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:05,280 Speaker 1: Marrow Lago I believe this was last night, and he 1096 01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:08,520 Speaker 1: said Donald Trump is the best president in his lifetime. 1097 01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:12,559 Speaker 1: And well, you've got to just hear what Bill had 1098 01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:12,920 Speaker 1: to say. 1099 01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:20,680 Speaker 8: Gotten damn who cares more for the station than this 1100 01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:21,559 Speaker 8: guy than. 1101 01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:22,040 Speaker 7: You're looking at. 1102 01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:31,040 Speaker 1: He is the president of the world. 1103 01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:37,640 Speaker 7: I think he doesnotiaated. 1104 01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:45,240 Speaker 8: I'm a hundred to God. Damn it, Honey, I'm going, 1105 01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:54,200 Speaker 8: He said, he deployed tomorrow for President Trump. 1106 01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:58,320 Speaker 1: Bill Dylon, We salute you, sir. You are our unsung 1107 01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:02,680 Speaker 1: hero of the day. The real spirit of Christmas is 1108 01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:09,000 Speaker 1: not what we have. It's about who we are. Each 1109 01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:09,840 Speaker 1: one of us. 1110 01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:19,880 Speaker 10: Is a child of God. That is the true source 1111 01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:23,200 Speaker 10: of joy this time of the year. That is what 1112 01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:26,080 Speaker 10: makes every Christmas. 1113 01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:44,080 Speaker 7: Marriage, Christmas time, the Christmas. 1114 01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:49,840 Speaker 10: As the President of the United States, it's my tremendous 1115 01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:52,680 Speaker 10: honor to finally wish America. 1116 01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:59,960 Speaker 1: A very merry Christmas. Fidal hour at the Dan o'donald's show, 1117 01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:02,200 Speaker 1: So welcome back to it. You want to join us 1118 01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:04,960 Speaker 1: four one four seven nine to nine eleven thirty on 1119 01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:07,800 Speaker 1: our ivet noos dot com, talk and text line. You 1120 01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:10,200 Speaker 1: can also reach us toll free one eight hundred eight 1121 01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:13,960 Speaker 1: three eight nine four seven six or email me DoD 1122 01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:19,000 Speaker 1: at iHeartMedia dot com. Now, no improvtu games of talk 1123 01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:22,400 Speaker 1: radio Roulette like last night. As we've been explaining all 1124 01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:27,000 Speaker 1: show long, we do hopefully have all of our issues fixed, 1125 01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:29,439 Speaker 1: so I'm not gonna need to go on for what 1126 01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:33,280 Speaker 1: was it two and a half straight hours without a break, 1127 01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:36,519 Speaker 1: And I do appreciate everybody who called in. We invented 1128 01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:38,200 Speaker 1: a little game on the fly. We called it talk 1129 01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:40,840 Speaker 1: Radio Roulette where I would just get a name of 1130 01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:44,120 Speaker 1: whoever it was that was on the line, and they 1131 01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:46,599 Speaker 1: would be able to say whatever it was they wanted 1132 01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:48,719 Speaker 1: to say. Think of it as like open Line Friday, 1133 01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:52,360 Speaker 1: only with all due respect to the late great Rush Limbaugh, 1134 01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:55,920 Speaker 1: I had absolutely no idea what any of the callers 1135 01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:58,760 Speaker 1: were going to say until they said it. We are 1136 01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:01,840 Speaker 1: going to make this hurring bit in the new year. 1137 01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:06,759 Speaker 1: I'm thinking Friday evenings we'll have some fun, probably Friday 1138 01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:10,040 Speaker 1: evenings at five o'clock. It'll just pair well with our 1139 01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:14,200 Speaker 1: Strangest Stories of the Week segment, How bizarre, and I'm 1140 01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:17,880 Speaker 1: really looking forward to that lot of stuff happening in 1141 01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:21,639 Speaker 1: the new year. And President Trump about three hours from now, 1142 01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:24,400 Speaker 1: is going to preview it in his address to the nation. 1143 01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:28,280 Speaker 1: Also look back at what I consider to be an 1144 01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:33,040 Speaker 1: incredibly successful first eleven months of the second Trump administration. 1145 01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:36,840 Speaker 1: We are so pleased to be joined right now by 1146 01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:42,240 Speaker 1: National Press Secretary of the Republican National Committee, Kirsten Pill. 1147 01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:48,679 Speaker 1: Kirsten Pell's in her very first radio interview. Kirston, Welcome 1148 01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:50,840 Speaker 1: to the Dan O'Donnell Show, and congratulations. 1149 01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:53,679 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having me Dan. The last 1150 01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:55,240 Speaker 4: time I spoke with you, I think I was working 1151 01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:58,120 Speaker 4: for a great senator from Wisconsin, Ron Johnson. So I'm 1152 01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:00,599 Speaker 4: happy to be back talking to wiscon and listeners. 1153 01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:05,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. So you went from Johnson's office and campaign. Was 1154 01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:10,080 Speaker 1: it the campaign or was it his senatorial office. I 1155 01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:11,559 Speaker 1: honestly it was. 1156 01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:14,000 Speaker 4: His senatorial office. I came in in twenty twenty two, 1157 01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:16,920 Speaker 4: right before he defeated Mandela Barnes, so I got to 1158 01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:19,960 Speaker 4: be there for that during that great time when he 1159 01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:21,439 Speaker 4: won the state for a third time. 1160 01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:24,479 Speaker 1: And you heard I'm sure that Mandela is back. He's 1161 01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:27,960 Speaker 1: now running for governor and it's going to be just 1162 01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:30,400 Speaker 1: as fun with him and the race as it was 1163 01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:33,960 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, So when did you join the RNC. 1164 01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:39,639 Speaker 4: Mid May? So I've been here since then, and we're 1165 01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:43,120 Speaker 4: just building momentum, getting ready for next year. And it's 1166 01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:45,000 Speaker 4: been in a very exciting time here at the RNC. 1167 01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:48,960 Speaker 4: We're really looking forward to the midterms and we really 1168 01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:51,639 Speaker 4: feel strong and confident going into next year. So yeah, 1169 01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:52,680 Speaker 4: I'm really happy to be here. 1170 01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:55,200 Speaker 1: You know, before we get into the president's speech, a 1171 01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:59,160 Speaker 1: lot of people, I think are apprehensive about the midterms. 1172 01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:02,000 Speaker 1: I think that's the Senate map looks pretty good for 1173 01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:05,920 Speaker 1: Republicans to retain control, but obviously with a razor thin 1174 01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:09,680 Speaker 1: margin in the House. People are sort of looking at 1175 01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:14,200 Speaker 1: the generic ballot polling right now, which admittedly it's nearly 1176 01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:17,639 Speaker 1: a year out, but it is relatively predictive at least 1177 01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:20,880 Speaker 1: as you go back in recent midterm elections and you 1178 01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:24,280 Speaker 1: take a look at this point in those cycles where 1179 01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:27,200 Speaker 1: you had generic ballot questions, they had a tendency to 1180 01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:31,520 Speaker 1: predict who is going to win, and just basic politics 1181 01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:34,160 Speaker 1: will tell you that the party that does not control 1182 01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:37,479 Speaker 1: the White House typically does very very well in the 1183 01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:41,960 Speaker 1: next midterm. I know you're obviously feeling good with the RNC, 1184 01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:46,000 Speaker 1: but do you understand why people are sort of nervous 1185 01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:47,600 Speaker 1: about how these midterms might go. 1186 01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:51,920 Speaker 4: So we feel very confident heading into the midterms. And 1187 01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:56,439 Speaker 4: here's why President Trump's leadership and results are delivering this 1188 01:20:56,600 --> 01:21:00,320 Speaker 4: historic agenda for hardworking American families across the country. They're 1189 01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:04,080 Speaker 4: seeing real improvements in their everyday lives, from lower costs 1190 01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:07,160 Speaker 4: to a stronger economy. Historically, of course, midterms can be 1191 01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:09,400 Speaker 4: tough for a party in power, but we believe this 1192 01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:12,200 Speaker 4: is not just a normal political moment. President Trump has 1193 01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:16,160 Speaker 4: unmatched ability to energize voters turn out the based campaign 1194 01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:20,800 Speaker 4: across the country. That changes the equation entirely. We really 1195 01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:23,719 Speaker 4: feel that we are positioned to beat the odds, expand 1196 01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:26,680 Speaker 4: our majorities, and to deliver a full four years of 1197 01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:30,599 Speaker 4: America First leadership. Because remember, if the Democrats gain power, 1198 01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:34,200 Speaker 4: it'll be NonStop impeachments and investigations, and it'll style me 1199 01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:37,040 Speaker 4: this president's agenda. So that's where we stand right now. 1200 01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:39,920 Speaker 4: And again, like I said, I think we feel confident 1201 01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:42,040 Speaker 4: that we will defy history next year. 1202 01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:46,439 Speaker 1: So the President is outlining his agenda for his second 1203 01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:50,640 Speaker 1: year in office. Looking back tonight on the accomplishments of 1204 01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:54,439 Speaker 1: the first year. What are you looking forward to most 1205 01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:59,160 Speaker 1: about him talking about what this administration has done in 1206 01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:00,360 Speaker 1: its first eleventh months. 1207 01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:03,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think tonight will be all about the 1208 01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:08,479 Speaker 4: results of this first eleven months. The facts, in my view, 1209 01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:11,879 Speaker 4: are undeniable. In just eleven months, President Trump has delivered 1210 01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:16,360 Speaker 4: real measurable progress on the issues that Americans feel every 1211 01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:20,439 Speaker 4: single day. Some of those include families are paying less 1212 01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:23,519 Speaker 4: at the pump as gas prices fall across the country. 1213 01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:28,760 Speaker 4: The recent jobs report kept beating expectations as more Americans 1214 01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:32,280 Speaker 4: re enter the workforce, wages continued to grow, and after 1215 01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:35,879 Speaker 4: years of chaos when the Biden administration, the borders finally secure. 1216 01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:39,320 Speaker 4: Illegal border crossings are at historic lows, and criminal illegal 1217 01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:41,800 Speaker 4: immigrants are being removed from our communities. This is something 1218 01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:45,200 Speaker 4: that the President obviously campaigned on and has been wildly successful. 1219 01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:47,360 Speaker 4: And I think it's something that we actually take for 1220 01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:52,640 Speaker 4: granted because this border is so secure now and he 1221 01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:54,840 Speaker 4: just was able to turn that around so fast in 1222 01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:58,040 Speaker 4: less than a year. But this didn't happen by accident. 1223 01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:02,599 Speaker 4: This happened because President Trump has systematically reversed the pill 1224 01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:05,200 Speaker 4: the failed policies of the Biden years and he's really 1225 01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:10,679 Speaker 4: brought back common sense. Democrats made life more expensive, more expensive, 1226 01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:13,920 Speaker 4: and less safe. But President Trump has been focused on 1227 01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:17,120 Speaker 4: fixing this damage. So I think tonight's address is about 1228 01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:20,439 Speaker 4: continuing that momentum into twenty twenty six by highlighting all 1229 01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:21,960 Speaker 4: of these things that he's been focused in. 1230 01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:24,280 Speaker 1: So, Donn, what's sort of amazing to me is that 1231 01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:28,759 Speaker 1: they've made the affordability crisis their central talking point heading 1232 01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:32,120 Speaker 1: into the twenty twenty six mid term year, that somehow 1233 01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:35,920 Speaker 1: it's President Trump's fault that nobody can afford rent, that 1234 01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:41,160 Speaker 1: nobody can afford groceries. Well, prices are coming down somewhat, 1235 01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:44,120 Speaker 1: and key is, as you outlined, the price of gas, 1236 01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:47,240 Speaker 1: and this is just the easiest one to be able 1237 01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:50,479 Speaker 1: to get down because it's all about increasing domestic supply, 1238 01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:54,120 Speaker 1: which is something that President Trump did literally on day 1239 01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:57,160 Speaker 1: one with a flurry of executive actions, essentially as you said, 1240 01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:01,920 Speaker 1: reversing President Biden's day one a actions from twenty twenty one. 1241 01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:06,120 Speaker 1: But it's laughable to me when you can actually just 1242 01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:10,000 Speaker 1: go back and take a look at the average price 1243 01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:14,240 Speaker 1: in terms of total dollars. I went back and looked 1244 01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:17,320 Speaker 1: at this. It cost at the end of Biden's term, 1245 01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:24,320 Speaker 1: seventeen thousand dollars more per year to afford the same 1246 01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:28,200 Speaker 1: things that the average family afford could afford at the 1247 01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:32,000 Speaker 1: beginning of Biden's term, seventeen thousand dollars per year. That's 1248 01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:35,880 Speaker 1: like an extra rent payment every single year. And they 1249 01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:39,559 Speaker 1: have the gall to blame Trump and Republicans for those 1250 01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:40,480 Speaker 1: price increases. 1251 01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,439 Speaker 4: Right, They're utterly shameless about this. The fact that they 1252 01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:49,680 Speaker 4: are claiming to be the Party of affordability is in 1253 01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:53,200 Speaker 4: my view, utterly laughable. Under Joe Biden, gas hit the 1254 01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:55,880 Speaker 4: highest price on record in June twenty twenty two, nearly 1255 01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:58,560 Speaker 4: five dollars a gallon. It stayed above pre dollars for 1256 01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:02,439 Speaker 4: all four years of his president. Families paid over fifty 1257 01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:06,679 Speaker 4: two hundred more per household and energy costs during Biden's term, 1258 01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:10,519 Speaker 4: and prices are falling now because President Trump has reversed 1259 01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:14,080 Speaker 4: biden air war on American energy. This week alone, the 1260 01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:16,960 Speaker 4: national average is down from just a month ago, and 1261 01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:20,320 Speaker 4: prices are trending down across the country and in some 1262 01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:23,599 Speaker 4: drivers are even seeing gas as low as below two 1263 01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:27,200 Speaker 4: dollars a gallon, as low as one dollar and sixty 1264 01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:31,200 Speaker 4: eight cents in Texas. So these high gas prices under 1265 01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:33,840 Speaker 4: Biden and then these lower gas prices under Trump are 1266 01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:36,479 Speaker 4: not an accident. They were a direct result of the 1267 01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:41,920 Speaker 4: Democrat policies that Joe Biden was pushing to basically declare 1268 01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:44,839 Speaker 4: war on American energy. And President Trump has brought prices 1269 01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:48,800 Speaker 4: down but by unleashing American energy and putting working families first, 1270 01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:54,599 Speaker 4: and energy prices affects everything groceries, shipping, heating. So under 1271 01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:57,120 Speaker 4: President Trump, Americans are actually on track to spend the 1272 01:25:57,200 --> 01:26:01,120 Speaker 4: lowest share of their disposable income on gas nearly two decades. 1273 01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:03,800 Speaker 4: And that's real relief for families who were stretched thin 1274 01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:05,600 Speaker 4: under the previous administration. 1275 01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:10,880 Speaker 1: Republican National Committee National Press Secretary Kirsten Pell's my guest 1276 01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:13,120 Speaker 1: here on the Dan o'donnald Show. Of course, President Trump 1277 01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:15,760 Speaker 1: will address the nation to talk about all of this 1278 01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:20,160 Speaker 1: at eight o'clock Central time this evening. It is going 1279 01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:23,840 Speaker 1: to be his final national address of the first year 1280 01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:26,680 Speaker 1: of his presidency. You touched on something, Kirsten, that I 1281 01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:30,679 Speaker 1: don't think, as you put it, really gets talked about enough. 1282 01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:34,880 Speaker 1: And that's the way that this presidential administration shut down 1283 01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:39,880 Speaker 1: the border almost instantly. I still think the best line 1284 01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:42,320 Speaker 1: that the president may have come up with, or one 1285 01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:44,200 Speaker 1: of his speech writers may have come up with, came 1286 01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:47,200 Speaker 1: during the address to the Joint Session of Congress within 1287 01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:49,680 Speaker 1: the first month or so of his presidency back in 1288 01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:52,920 Speaker 1: what was it late February early March, where he said 1289 01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:56,519 Speaker 1: the border is now closed. It turns out we didn't 1290 01:26:56,680 --> 01:27:00,680 Speaker 1: need new laws. We just needed a new president that 1291 01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:02,799 Speaker 1: proved to be remarkably accurate. 1292 01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:07,519 Speaker 4: That is entirely accurate, and it's something that actually Senator 1293 01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:10,080 Speaker 4: Johnson said all the time waiting up twenty twenty four. 1294 01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:12,799 Speaker 4: He's like, we just need a new president. And President 1295 01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:15,519 Speaker 4: Trump was that president to do it, and we knew 1296 01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:18,880 Speaker 4: that he would be. The border is secure. President Trump 1297 01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:20,960 Speaker 4: had promised to end the chaots at the border, and 1298 01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:23,760 Speaker 4: he delivered. The flood of illegal immigration that we saw 1299 01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:27,120 Speaker 4: under Biden has been completely stopped. It's utterly amazing. If 1300 01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:30,000 Speaker 4: you look at it. Since President Trump took office, more 1301 01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:32,800 Speaker 4: than two point two million illegal aliens have either been 1302 01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:36,080 Speaker 4: removed from the country or self deported. And this administration 1303 01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:39,080 Speaker 4: is actually now on pace to deport nearly six hundred 1304 01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:42,240 Speaker 4: thousand illegal aliens and the president's first year alone, So 1305 01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:45,000 Speaker 4: these numbers are staggering, and I just don't think that 1306 01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:47,439 Speaker 4: it's talked about enough. I think, again, this president has 1307 01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:50,320 Speaker 4: done such a good job of securing the border that 1308 01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:54,719 Speaker 4: we almost take it for granted because these stories about 1309 01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:58,360 Speaker 4: illegal immigrants pouring over the border have stopped, and this 1310 01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:02,519 Speaker 4: president has turned that around, and it's pretty it's pretty incredible, 1311 01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:05,160 Speaker 4: and I think this is something he will definitely speak 1312 01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:05,960 Speaker 4: to you tonight as well. 1313 01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:09,439 Speaker 1: And it's not just those six hundred thousand deportations, it's 1314 01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:13,519 Speaker 1: all of the self deportations or voluntary deportations on top 1315 01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:16,360 Speaker 1: of those. I thought. I saw the Center for Immigration 1316 01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:21,479 Speaker 1: Studies put out a finding that said that for every 1317 01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:27,200 Speaker 1: illegal that is forcibly deported, between two and three voluntarily 1318 01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:30,560 Speaker 1: deport So if we've got six hundred thousand who have 1319 01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:34,200 Speaker 1: been forcibly deported in the first year, you probably got 1320 01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:36,800 Speaker 1: somewhere in the neighborhood of one point two million to 1321 01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:40,479 Speaker 1: one point eight million who have left the country because 1322 01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:46,120 Speaker 1: they fear getting forcibly deported. And this administration has done 1323 01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:49,559 Speaker 1: what I think is a very smart thing by saying, hey, 1324 01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:52,920 Speaker 1: we will pay for you to go back home, and 1325 01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:55,800 Speaker 1: we will incentivize you to go back home, saying, hey, 1326 01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:59,160 Speaker 1: if you go back, you will be able to apply 1327 01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:02,760 Speaker 1: for entry into the country. But if we catch you 1328 01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:07,160 Speaker 1: and you get removed forcibly, you're never getting allowed back 1329 01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:10,280 Speaker 1: into this country, right. 1330 01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:12,760 Speaker 4: And that's the genius of this administration and what they've 1331 01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:17,240 Speaker 4: been doing, not only with supporting a criminal illegal aliens, 1332 01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:20,160 Speaker 4: but also encouraging people who've broken the law to go home, 1333 01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:23,400 Speaker 4: to go back to their countries. Because this president cares 1334 01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:26,519 Speaker 4: about public safety and he cares about this country, and 1335 01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:30,640 Speaker 4: he's supporting illegal aliens but also reducing the strain in 1336 01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:33,519 Speaker 4: our communities and restoring the rule of law. And under 1337 01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:36,160 Speaker 4: Biden it was the opposite. He was incentivizing everyone to 1338 01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:38,479 Speaker 4: come here and endangered the people that were living in 1339 01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:42,120 Speaker 4: those border communities, endangered our communities. And under Biden, we 1340 01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:45,439 Speaker 4: saw more than three hundred thousand illegal immigrants attempted to 1341 01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:47,639 Speaker 4: cross the border in a single month, the highest number 1342 01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:51,200 Speaker 4: ever recorded. And we also saw more than one hundred 1343 01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:54,280 Speaker 4: and eighty five thousand encounters every month. So under Biden, 1344 01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:57,880 Speaker 4: he was encouraging people to come here and to break 1345 01:29:57,960 --> 01:30:00,360 Speaker 4: our laws. And it's just a direct contract the President 1346 01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:02,280 Speaker 4: Strump who's saying, no, we have the rule of law here. 1347 01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:05,560 Speaker 4: You can't just illegally come across the border. And so 1348 01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:07,240 Speaker 4: I think that tells you everything that you need to 1349 01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:10,120 Speaker 4: know about the difference between this administration and the previous one. 1350 01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:16,760 Speaker 1: Without question, and with respect to global affairs and national security, 1351 01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:20,760 Speaker 1: I think the big agenda item appears to be what 1352 01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:25,880 Speaker 1: may be imminent in terms of a Ukraine Russia peace deal. 1353 01:30:26,120 --> 01:30:28,679 Speaker 1: Do you think we're going to see that potentially before 1354 01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:29,360 Speaker 1: the end of the year. 1355 01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:32,519 Speaker 4: Well, I think if there's anyone to do it, it 1356 01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:35,080 Speaker 4: would be this president. He's the peace president. He has 1357 01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:40,320 Speaker 4: been brokering deals across the world with different leaders, and he, 1358 01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:43,320 Speaker 4: I think is the president to do that. I obviously 1359 01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:46,400 Speaker 4: won't get ahead of any announcements on that end from 1360 01:30:46,479 --> 01:30:49,760 Speaker 4: the President, but this president, he is a piece through 1361 01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:53,160 Speaker 4: strength President. World leaders respect him and the reason that 1362 01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:55,840 Speaker 4: America is now dominant on the world stage yet again 1363 01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:58,240 Speaker 4: is because of what he's been able to do. And 1364 01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:01,120 Speaker 4: if there's anyone that can broke is there anyone who 1365 01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:03,719 Speaker 4: can bring the war to an end, it's just President. 1366 01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:08,439 Speaker 1: She is National Press Secretary for the Republican National Committee. 1367 01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:11,880 Speaker 1: Kirsten Pels also a great friend of the Dan o'donald 1368 01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:15,360 Speaker 1: Show from her time with Senator Ron Johnson, who we 1369 01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:18,200 Speaker 1: all love here in Wisconsin. Kirsten, you did a great 1370 01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:21,840 Speaker 1: job in your very first radio interview, really did enjoy Yeah, No, 1371 01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:24,680 Speaker 1: I think you. I think a lot of them are 1372 01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:27,400 Speaker 1: in your future, and I'm so glad your first one 1373 01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:32,840 Speaker 1: was with us. Have yourself a very merry Christmas, Happy holidays. 1374 01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:35,880 Speaker 1: Where is home for you? Where are you going back 1375 01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:36,799 Speaker 1: to for the holidays. 1376 01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:42,559 Speaker 4: I am from Maryland, so I'm actually not very far Okay, okay, 1377 01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:45,000 Speaker 4: Stort carr right away, so I'm looking forward to see 1378 01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:46,639 Speaker 4: seeing my family very soon. 1379 01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:50,000 Speaker 1: That's fantastic. Well, thank you so much for joining us 1380 01:31:50,120 --> 01:31:53,120 Speaker 1: again President Trump's Addressed to the Nation eight o'clock Central 1381 01:31:53,240 --> 01:31:56,200 Speaker 1: to night. We will be right back right here on 1382 01:31:56,360 --> 01:32:24,280 Speaker 1: the Dan o'donald Show. Mar thanks once again to Kirsten 1383 01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:27,519 Speaker 1: Pills for joining us here on the Dan O'Donnell Show 1384 01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:31,960 Speaker 1: to preview the President's Addressed to the Nation tonight, talking 1385 01:32:31,960 --> 01:32:38,160 Speaker 1: about affordability, talking about how his administration has actually tried 1386 01:32:38,200 --> 01:32:44,080 Speaker 1: to and largely succeeded in reversing the insanely costly policies 1387 01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:47,560 Speaker 1: of the Biden administration, and as we outlined earlier in 1388 01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:51,679 Speaker 1: the show, look no further than Democrat policies at every 1389 01:32:52,040 --> 01:32:56,879 Speaker 1: single level of government. For why your taxes are increasing, 1390 01:32:56,960 --> 01:33:02,040 Speaker 1: Governor Rivers four hundred year school funding increased partial veto. 1391 01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:06,280 Speaker 1: That is spiking property tax rates across the state. People 1392 01:33:06,280 --> 01:33:10,200 Speaker 1: are getting sticker shock as they're going to their mailboxes 1393 01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:13,560 Speaker 1: and realizing how much their property taxes went up in 1394 01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:18,320 Speaker 1: just one year. That's because of the governor allowing more 1395 01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:23,360 Speaker 1: increases from local school districts, and local school districts invariably 1396 01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:28,320 Speaker 1: controlled by Democrat school board members are of course taking 1397 01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:32,000 Speaker 1: advantage of the funding mechanisms available to them. As we 1398 01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:36,320 Speaker 1: outlined as well, the Wisconsin Supreme Court almost certainly going 1399 01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:40,000 Speaker 1: to dramatically increase the tax burden on wisconsin its when 1400 01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:44,280 Speaker 1: it overturns Act ten. If the Supreme Court gets cold 1401 01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:48,719 Speaker 1: feet somehow and decides not to overturn Act ten, don't worry. 1402 01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:52,599 Speaker 1: You've got even the moderate candidate for Governor, Joel Brennan, 1403 01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:55,200 Speaker 1: who just threw his hat into the ring in an 1404 01:33:55,280 --> 01:34:00,000 Speaker 1: increasingly crowded Democrat primary, saying yes, absolutely, I will overtime 1405 01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:03,760 Speaker 1: or in Act ten if I'm elected. And then, of 1406 01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:08,920 Speaker 1: course you've got the proposals that were released today Francesco 1407 01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:13,880 Speaker 1: Hang and Ryan Clancy wanting municipal tax increases on anyone 1408 01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:18,040 Speaker 1: who makes a million dollars or more per year. Just 1409 01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:22,200 Speaker 1: wait until like as Margaret Thatcher famously said, the problem 1410 01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:25,320 Speaker 1: with socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money. 1411 01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:28,920 Speaker 1: Watch for if that were to ever pass. Let's assume 1412 01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:32,000 Speaker 1: that Democrats win the legislature as well as the governor's 1413 01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:35,559 Speaker 1: mansion next year. Obviously that would be something that they 1414 01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:39,080 Speaker 1: would look at enacting, and it would go from a 1415 01:34:39,160 --> 01:34:43,120 Speaker 1: million dollars once you soak those taxpayers, you soak those 1416 01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:45,679 Speaker 1: making three quarters of a million, and then half a million, 1417 01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:47,880 Speaker 1: then two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, and before you 1418 01:34:47,960 --> 01:34:50,479 Speaker 1: know it, it's everybody who's making one hundred thousand dollars 1419 01:34:51,320 --> 01:34:54,960 Speaker 1: or more. Want to switch gears a little bit. Morgan 1420 01:34:55,120 --> 01:35:00,799 Speaker 1: Geyser's attorney, the Slenderman Stabber, will not contac to petition 1421 01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:04,400 Speaker 1: to revoke her conditional release, according to a letter filed 1422 01:35:04,439 --> 01:35:08,440 Speaker 1: by her attorney, This from today's TMJ four. The conditional 1423 01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:12,960 Speaker 1: release revocation hearing is scheduled for February sixteenth. It comes after, 1424 01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:17,400 Speaker 1: of course, she escaped her zero security group home in 1425 01:35:17,560 --> 01:35:20,280 Speaker 1: Madison after cutting off her ankle bracelet. She was found 1426 01:35:20,360 --> 01:35:24,920 Speaker 1: later in Illinois and arrested alongside a forty three year 1427 01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:29,080 Speaker 1: old friend who identifies as a they them, and was 1428 01:35:29,320 --> 01:35:34,680 Speaker 1: dressed suspiciously similarly as we reported exclusively last week to 1429 01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:40,960 Speaker 1: Ticky Toby, a character from the slender Man universe. Seriously, 1430 01:35:41,200 --> 01:35:43,680 Speaker 1: go back and look at what he was wearing. He 1431 01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:46,920 Speaker 1: is dressed identically to Ticky Toby. Could that have been 1432 01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:51,960 Speaker 1: a coincidence? Yes, absolutely, I'm not necessarily sure that it 1433 01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:56,040 Speaker 1: was so. Geyser was brought back last month to Waukeshaw County. 1434 01:35:56,120 --> 01:35:57,960 Speaker 1: She remained at the county jail for a short time 1435 01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:03,160 Speaker 1: before being moved to a different difrint facility. The Sheriff's 1436 01:36:03,160 --> 01:36:07,280 Speaker 1: Department confirmed the move December tenth, so a week ago today, 1437 01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:14,080 Speaker 1: but did not specify the location of that facility. Geyser's move, though, 1438 01:36:14,200 --> 01:36:17,560 Speaker 1: came about a week after Tony Cotton, her lawyer, requested 1439 01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:21,559 Speaker 1: she be returned to the Winnebago Health Institute mental health institute, 1440 01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:24,759 Speaker 1: where she had been held for more than a decade. 1441 01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:28,880 Speaker 1: The Department of Health Services on November twenty fifth, filed 1442 01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:32,400 Speaker 1: a petition to revoke her conditional release, but in a 1443 01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:37,320 Speaker 1: letter filed with Waukeshaw County Judge Scott Wagner yesterday, Cotton 1444 01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:40,880 Speaker 1: asked the court to approve Geyser's decision not to fight 1445 01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:45,519 Speaker 1: the petition filed by DHS, meaning she is accepting the 1446 01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:51,000 Speaker 1: return to the Winnebago Mental Health Facility, which again raises 1447 01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:54,479 Speaker 1: the question about how it was she was ever able 1448 01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:59,240 Speaker 1: to leave in the first place, especially after she started 1449 01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:04,360 Speaker 1: identifying as a boy. She reportedly was using he him 1450 01:37:04,760 --> 01:37:07,400 Speaker 1: pronouns and was going by the name I think it 1451 01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:10,080 Speaker 1: was Ethan. It might have been Evan, but it certainly 1452 01:37:10,240 --> 01:37:14,439 Speaker 1: wasn't Morgan. She was identifying as a boy, and she 1453 01:37:14,640 --> 01:37:20,280 Speaker 1: just happened to be arrested in the company of another transgender, 1454 01:37:20,439 --> 01:37:24,040 Speaker 1: creepy forty three year old man who, by all accounts 1455 01:37:24,240 --> 01:37:29,240 Speaker 1: was very likely her boyfriend and helping to facilitate her escape, 1456 01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:32,160 Speaker 1: although he hasn't been charged with that, meaning there probably 1457 01:37:32,280 --> 01:37:34,800 Speaker 1: wasn't enough evidence that they would be able to pin 1458 01:37:34,880 --> 01:37:37,280 Speaker 1: that on him, and it wasn't really an escape anyway. 1459 01:37:37,439 --> 01:37:40,839 Speaker 1: She just walked right out after cutting off her bracelet. 1460 01:37:41,120 --> 01:37:44,240 Speaker 1: The biggest issue in this case, notwithstanding all of the 1461 01:37:44,360 --> 01:37:48,519 Speaker 1: rather obvious failures of the Department of Corrections in not 1462 01:37:48,880 --> 01:37:53,040 Speaker 1: notifying anybody, any law enforcement officials in Madison or anywhere 1463 01:37:53,120 --> 01:37:56,400 Speaker 1: else until hours and hours and hours had passed by 1464 01:37:56,560 --> 01:37:58,920 Speaker 1: after she cut off this bracelet and just took off. 1465 01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:03,160 Speaker 1: The biggest issue is why she was ever let out 1466 01:38:03,240 --> 01:38:06,000 Speaker 1: of that mental health facility in the first place. As 1467 01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:09,680 Speaker 1: I outlined a month ago, but I think it bears repeating. 1468 01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:13,360 Speaker 1: This is an example of where the mental health community 1469 01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:18,880 Speaker 1: and progressive liberalism are really putting the public in danger 1470 01:38:19,200 --> 01:38:22,320 Speaker 1: because they are refusing to acknowledge that there is a 1471 01:38:22,680 --> 01:38:28,640 Speaker 1: very strong correlation between gender dysphoria or identifying as the 1472 01:38:28,800 --> 01:38:32,800 Speaker 1: opposite gender, or being confused about your gender, or saying, hey, 1473 01:38:32,880 --> 01:38:34,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to be non binary now, I'm going to 1474 01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:39,200 Speaker 1: use female pronouns even though I'm a boy, and schizophrenia now, 1475 01:38:39,320 --> 01:38:42,400 Speaker 1: all the while that she was saying to her doctors, 1476 01:38:42,439 --> 01:38:45,920 Speaker 1: Oh yes, I'm less schizophrenic. Oh yes, I'm not schizophrenic. 1477 01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:50,080 Speaker 1: I'm not having these delusions of slender Man or anything 1478 01:38:50,160 --> 01:38:54,799 Speaker 1: else anymore, she is now having delusions that she's actually 1479 01:38:55,120 --> 01:38:57,439 Speaker 1: a boy and that she was born into the wrong 1480 01:38:57,600 --> 01:39:00,280 Speaker 1: body or born into the wrong skin, or what the 1481 01:39:00,360 --> 01:39:04,080 Speaker 1: nomenclature is now for that that's evidence that you are 1482 01:39:04,200 --> 01:39:07,479 Speaker 1: not mentally well. And there is a mountain of mental 1483 01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:11,240 Speaker 1: health research to suggest this from all across the country 1484 01:39:11,280 --> 01:39:15,320 Speaker 1: here in the United States, in Europe, large scale cohorts 1485 01:39:15,800 --> 01:39:19,240 Speaker 1: of people who have been studied saying yes, when there 1486 01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:24,400 Speaker 1: is gender dysphoria present, more often than not, there are 1487 01:39:24,600 --> 01:39:29,599 Speaker 1: other very serious mental health issues like schizophrenia. But even 1488 01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:32,200 Speaker 1: though she's telling her doctor, she's telling the people who 1489 01:39:32,240 --> 01:39:35,400 Speaker 1: are signing off on her release to a zero security 1490 01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:38,760 Speaker 1: group home in Madison, that she's identifying as a boy, 1491 01:39:39,200 --> 01:39:42,160 Speaker 1: they're not willing to say, oh, hey, maybe that is 1492 01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:45,240 Speaker 1: connected to her schizophrenia, because they don't want to be 1493 01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:49,479 Speaker 1: accused of being transphobic, or maybe they themselves have fully 1494 01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:53,439 Speaker 1: bought into this idea that being transgender is evidence of 1495 01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:57,760 Speaker 1: a perfectly healthy mental state. It clearly isn't, and it 1496 01:39:57,880 --> 01:40:01,519 Speaker 1: does nobody any good to pretend that it is. It 1497 01:40:01,640 --> 01:40:03,640 Speaker 1: is not mean, it is not cruel, It is not 1498 01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:06,960 Speaker 1: transphobic to say. If somebody is saying I am not 1499 01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:11,160 Speaker 1: happy with the most basic element of myself, what gender 1500 01:40:11,439 --> 01:40:14,920 Speaker 1: I am, that probably means I'm not happy with other 1501 01:40:15,120 --> 01:40:18,599 Speaker 1: aspects of my life as well, and there is ample 1502 01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:22,960 Speaker 1: evidence to suggest that this is being accompanied by other 1503 01:40:23,120 --> 01:40:27,719 Speaker 1: sorts of delusions that can often trigger violent self harm 1504 01:40:28,240 --> 01:40:31,720 Speaker 1: violence against other people, as evidenced by the fact that 1505 01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:35,720 Speaker 1: something like forty percent of people who identify as transgender 1506 01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:40,280 Speaker 1: will commit suicide at some point. When they talk about 1507 01:40:40,360 --> 01:40:45,600 Speaker 1: the trans holocaust or transgenocide or whatever they're calling this, 1508 01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:49,479 Speaker 1: what they mean is a staggering number of people are 1509 01:40:49,560 --> 01:40:53,160 Speaker 1: identifying as transgender and ultimately are killing themselves because they're 1510 01:40:53,280 --> 01:40:57,040 Speaker 1: not getting the mental health treatment that they need because 1511 01:40:57,240 --> 01:41:01,080 Speaker 1: of this belief that, well, they're not actually mentally ill. 1512 01:41:01,240 --> 01:41:04,479 Speaker 1: They just need to be affirmed in their new gender. 1513 01:41:04,560 --> 01:41:09,760 Speaker 1: They just need to be placated in this delusion, instead 1514 01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:14,160 Speaker 1: of what the mental health community for decades assumed that 1515 01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:18,400 Speaker 1: this was evidence that there was something seriously wrong with 1516 01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:22,200 Speaker 1: the mental state of this person. Well, now we're just really, ah, 1517 01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:24,920 Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with Morgan or Evan or Ethan or 1518 01:41:25,000 --> 01:41:28,560 Speaker 1: whatever she's calling herself. Yes, we will just release he 1519 01:41:29,160 --> 01:41:32,599 Speaker 1: him right out onto the streets and hope for the best. 1520 01:41:33,240 --> 01:41:36,000 Speaker 1: It's not helping Morgan guys, or it's not helping the 1521 01:41:36,120 --> 01:41:39,600 Speaker 1: public at large, and it is certainly not helping the 1522 01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:44,080 Speaker 1: thousands of people who are clearly struggling with very serious 1523 01:41:44,280 --> 01:41:48,479 Speaker 1: mental illnesses but are just being told here, change your gender, 1524 01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:51,639 Speaker 1: make sure everyone affirms you, and then you'll be happy. 1525 01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:54,320 Speaker 1: Clearly you will not be You're listening to The Dan 1526 01:41:54,400 --> 01:41:58,200 Speaker 1: O'Donnell Show. It is a tour de force of truth, 1527 01:42:20,080 --> 01:42:24,280 Speaker 1: conservative thoughts, not just talk. It is The Dan o'donald Show. 1528 01:42:24,560 --> 01:42:27,320 Speaker 1: Welcome back to it. Merry Christmas to one and all. 1529 01:42:27,360 --> 01:42:31,120 Speaker 1: As we are now just one week away from Christmas Eve, 1530 01:42:31,200 --> 01:42:35,320 Speaker 1: a reminder this coming Tuesday, December twenty third, four pm, 1531 01:42:35,400 --> 01:42:39,679 Speaker 1: the premiere The Dan o'donald Show Family Christmas Special, Your children, 1532 01:42:39,800 --> 01:42:43,840 Speaker 1: your grandchildren, singing their hearts out, playing the heck out 1533 01:42:43,880 --> 01:42:48,840 Speaker 1: of their musical instruments for your enjoyment. It is incredibly cute. 1534 01:42:48,920 --> 01:42:52,800 Speaker 1: These kids are incredibly talented, and once the show premieres, 1535 01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:56,479 Speaker 1: it will then replay throughout the day, Christmas Eve and 1536 01:42:56,800 --> 01:42:59,800 Speaker 1: Christmas Day. It will also be available as a download 1537 01:42:59,840 --> 01:43:05,720 Speaker 1: of podcast right here on The Dan O'Donnell Show podcast, iHeartRadio, 1538 01:43:05,960 --> 01:43:10,960 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to podcasts. The New York Knicks 1539 01:43:11,280 --> 01:43:16,160 Speaker 1: won the NBA Cup last night over the San Antonio 1540 01:43:16,400 --> 01:43:20,200 Speaker 1: Spurs and they have decided not to put up a 1541 01:43:20,360 --> 01:43:25,040 Speaker 1: banner in the rafters of Madison Square Garden indicating that 1542 01:43:25,280 --> 01:43:30,560 Speaker 1: they won the NBA Cup Championship. The fact that I 1543 01:43:30,760 --> 01:43:35,320 Speaker 1: had to read today that the NBA Cup Championship was 1544 01:43:35,680 --> 01:43:38,840 Speaker 1: won and that the Knicks won it, and then I 1545 01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:42,760 Speaker 1: actually had to ask my friend Doug Russell here at 1546 01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:45,960 Speaker 1: work before the show started, Hey, did the Bucks win 1547 01:43:46,080 --> 01:43:48,799 Speaker 1: the NBA Cup last year? Was that the year before? 1548 01:43:49,479 --> 01:43:52,240 Speaker 1: And he said that was last year until last night, 1549 01:43:52,320 --> 01:43:57,439 Speaker 1: they were the reigning NBA Cup champions And the Bucks 1550 01:43:57,479 --> 01:44:00,400 Speaker 1: actually did hang a banner. I know it was there 1551 01:44:00,439 --> 01:44:02,560 Speaker 1: for the rest of last season. Maybe somebody would be 1552 01:44:02,560 --> 01:44:04,639 Speaker 1: able to tell me. I have not been to Fiser 1553 01:44:04,760 --> 01:44:08,200 Speaker 1: Forum yet this season for a Bucks or a Marquette games. 1554 01:44:08,280 --> 01:44:10,879 Speaker 1: That's certainly going to have to change soon, because Fireserve 1555 01:44:11,000 --> 01:44:14,200 Speaker 1: is just a wonderful place to take in a basketball 1556 01:44:14,280 --> 01:44:16,679 Speaker 1: game or a concert or anything. In fact, the last 1557 01:44:16,720 --> 01:44:20,880 Speaker 1: time I think I was there, I saw Shane Gillis. 1558 01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:24,040 Speaker 1: I saw the comedian Shane Gillis this summer and didn't 1559 01:44:24,240 --> 01:44:27,679 Speaker 1: really check to see whether there was still an NBA 1560 01:44:27,920 --> 01:44:31,240 Speaker 1: Cup banner up in the rafters. This just goes to 1561 01:44:31,320 --> 01:44:36,040 Speaker 1: show you how useless and pointless this in season tournament 1562 01:44:36,200 --> 01:44:39,960 Speaker 1: really is when teams first of all win fans. And 1563 01:44:40,120 --> 01:44:45,800 Speaker 1: I would consider myself a relatively serious Milwaukee Bucks fan. 1564 01:44:46,360 --> 01:44:48,479 Speaker 1: I'm not a diehard. I don't watch every game, but 1565 01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:52,719 Speaker 1: I'm up on what the team does. I'm certainly praying 1566 01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:56,400 Speaker 1: that they don't get forced to trade Giannis Antetakumpo, although 1567 01:44:56,840 --> 01:44:59,000 Speaker 1: I think he's already forced him his way to the 1568 01:44:59,080 --> 01:45:02,200 Speaker 1: Knicks or possibly the Spurs, the team the Knicks beat 1569 01:45:02,280 --> 01:45:07,360 Speaker 1: to win the useless NBA Cup. But I didn't even 1570 01:45:07,520 --> 01:45:10,840 Speaker 1: know that they had won the thing last year. And 1571 01:45:11,160 --> 01:45:14,559 Speaker 1: now you've got teams being like, yeah, we're not going 1572 01:45:14,640 --> 01:45:19,040 Speaker 1: to put the the championship banner up there. I get 1573 01:45:19,160 --> 01:45:22,519 Speaker 1: what Adam Silver, the NBA commissioner, is trying to do, 1574 01:45:22,640 --> 01:45:26,320 Speaker 1: and that's generate interest in the eighty two games of 1575 01:45:26,400 --> 01:45:29,640 Speaker 1: the regular season and give these teams something to play for, 1576 01:45:29,800 --> 01:45:34,400 Speaker 1: because everybody knows they're just resting their stars left and right. 1577 01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:38,080 Speaker 1: This sort of forces teams to actually at least pretend 1578 01:45:38,240 --> 01:45:41,719 Speaker 1: like some of these November and December games mean something. 1579 01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:45,800 Speaker 1: But can we stop the farce that is the NBA Cup? 1580 01:45:45,800 --> 01:45:46,120 Speaker 9: All right? 1581 01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:50,160 Speaker 1: We will be back with massive powerball jackpot in some 1582 01:45:50,280 --> 01:46:20,519 Speaker 1: financial advice as well. You're at the dann o'donnah, just 1583 01:46:20,600 --> 01:46:23,360 Speaker 1: a couple of minutes left here on the Dan O'Donnell's show. 1584 01:46:23,479 --> 01:46:27,320 Speaker 1: Welcome back to it. I will admit I had no 1585 01:46:27,560 --> 01:46:30,640 Speaker 1: idea the powerball jackpot was all the way up to 1586 01:46:31,000 --> 01:46:35,960 Speaker 1: one point two five billion dollars. This is the sixth 1587 01:46:36,280 --> 01:46:40,880 Speaker 1: largest jackpot of all time, the largest being November seventh, 1588 01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:44,439 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. It was a two point zero four 1589 01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:49,120 Speaker 1: billion dollar prize. No winners were selected on Monday. That 1590 01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:53,200 Speaker 1: means the pot keeps growing. Tonight is the drawing. The 1591 01:46:53,400 --> 01:46:57,480 Speaker 1: last time the powerball jackpot was hit it was September 1592 01:46:57,760 --> 01:47:01,800 Speaker 1: sixth by two tickets in the Missouri and Texas that 1593 01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:07,080 Speaker 1: split a one point seven eight seven billion dollar prize. 1594 01:47:07,479 --> 01:47:11,439 Speaker 1: There have been forty three consecutive drawings with no jackpot wins. 1595 01:47:12,120 --> 01:47:15,600 Speaker 1: This is only the uh first time. This is the 1596 01:47:15,640 --> 01:47:18,360 Speaker 1: first time in power ball history that there are back 1597 01:47:18,439 --> 01:47:23,320 Speaker 1: to back billion dollar jackpots. Now, that is not totally 1598 01:47:24,520 --> 01:47:30,040 Speaker 1: accurate because obviously, as everybody knows, there are two separate options. 1599 01:47:30,080 --> 01:47:32,760 Speaker 1: You can get paid in an annuity where you do 1600 01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:36,760 Speaker 1: get the total amount less taxes paid over twenty years 1601 01:47:36,880 --> 01:47:40,280 Speaker 1: or thirty years or whatever it is. But most people, 1602 01:47:40,560 --> 01:47:44,120 Speaker 1: in fact almost all people that win, take the lump 1603 01:47:44,280 --> 01:47:48,519 Speaker 1: sum payout, which is five hundred seventy two point one 1604 01:47:48,920 --> 01:47:53,000 Speaker 1: million dollars off of that one point two five billion, 1605 01:47:53,439 --> 01:47:56,760 Speaker 1: and that of course is adjusted for taxes, so take home, 1606 01:47:56,840 --> 01:48:00,280 Speaker 1: you're probably getting a quarter of a billion dollars thing 1607 01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:03,120 Speaker 1: like that, unless I'm not seeing in this story that 1608 01:48:04,280 --> 01:48:07,000 Speaker 1: I've got from abcnews dot com if this is before 1609 01:48:07,240 --> 01:48:11,959 Speaker 1: or after taxes. Bottom line, if you win the jackpot, 1610 01:48:12,080 --> 01:48:15,519 Speaker 1: you have to take the lump sum payment because the 1611 01:48:15,760 --> 01:48:19,040 Speaker 1: annuity will pay out, but it will not pay out 1612 01:48:19,120 --> 01:48:21,720 Speaker 1: after your death, so it'll just keep paying out, but 1613 01:48:21,880 --> 01:48:26,160 Speaker 1: in small amounts. And obviously you want that money to 1614 01:48:26,320 --> 01:48:29,320 Speaker 1: go to work for you instantly. If you have, whether 1615 01:48:29,360 --> 01:48:33,040 Speaker 1: it's five hundred and seventy million dollars or three hundred 1616 01:48:33,080 --> 01:48:36,400 Speaker 1: million dollars or whatever, right away you put that money 1617 01:48:36,560 --> 01:48:39,280 Speaker 1: under management and it is going You're just going to 1618 01:48:39,320 --> 01:48:42,519 Speaker 1: be able to live off of interest and dividend income 1619 01:48:43,080 --> 01:48:46,839 Speaker 1: somewhere in the neighborhood of fifteen to twenty million dollars 1620 01:48:47,080 --> 01:48:51,680 Speaker 1: a year. I always use these giant powerball jackpots as 1621 01:48:51,720 --> 01:48:54,879 Speaker 1: a way to talk about the power of compounding interest. 1622 01:48:55,000 --> 01:48:58,000 Speaker 1: I don't want to sound too much like Dave Ramsey here. 1623 01:48:58,040 --> 01:49:01,280 Speaker 1: Although my very first job in radio was bored opping 1624 01:49:01,800 --> 01:49:04,960 Speaker 1: the Dave Ramsey Show, actually my second job, my very 1625 01:49:05,000 --> 01:49:07,519 Speaker 1: first job, I was a DJ at ninety four point 1626 01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:11,400 Speaker 1: five WKTI, playing the hits of the eighties, nineties, and today. 1627 01:49:12,160 --> 01:49:17,360 Speaker 1: Well overnight on WTMJ, they played Dave Ramsey. When Ramsey, 1628 01:49:17,479 --> 01:49:20,599 Speaker 1: I think was just starting out. He was nowhere near 1629 01:49:20,800 --> 01:49:25,760 Speaker 1: the financial advice phenomenon that he is today, and I 1630 01:49:25,880 --> 01:49:29,120 Speaker 1: had to from midnight to six am. We would run 1631 01:49:29,400 --> 01:49:32,240 Speaker 1: reruns of The Dave Ramsey Show, and I believe we 1632 01:49:32,320 --> 01:49:35,040 Speaker 1: had Clark Howard in there, but Dave Ramsey and I 1633 01:49:35,120 --> 01:49:38,800 Speaker 1: have not listened to Dave Ramsey, probably since I was 1634 01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:41,479 Speaker 1: bored opping for him and listened to him every single 1635 01:49:41,680 --> 01:49:45,080 Speaker 1: evening from two thousand and one to about mid two 1636 01:49:45,160 --> 01:49:48,439 Speaker 1: thousand and two. But he always opened with I'll never 1637 01:49:48,520 --> 01:49:51,840 Speaker 1: forget that. He always opened with where dead is dumb? 1638 01:49:52,280 --> 01:49:56,040 Speaker 1: Cash is king, and the paid off home mortgage has 1639 01:49:56,200 --> 01:50:00,519 Speaker 1: replaced the BMW as the status symbol of choice. Here 1640 01:50:00,560 --> 01:50:03,599 Speaker 1: at the Dave Ramsey Show, we give the same advice 1641 01:50:03,680 --> 01:50:07,920 Speaker 1: your grandmother gives, only we keep our teeth in every 1642 01:50:08,000 --> 01:50:10,600 Speaker 1: single night. He would say that every single hour. And 1643 01:50:10,960 --> 01:50:14,080 Speaker 1: I learned a lot from listening to Dave Ramsey and 1644 01:50:14,200 --> 01:50:18,360 Speaker 1: just my own experience with managing money and understanding about 1645 01:50:18,400 --> 01:50:22,400 Speaker 1: how compound interest works. You can make it work for you. 1646 01:50:22,640 --> 01:50:25,800 Speaker 1: But the thing is debt also compounds as well. And 1647 01:50:25,960 --> 01:50:28,800 Speaker 1: one of the biggest problems that people who win the 1648 01:50:28,920 --> 01:50:32,840 Speaker 1: jackpot face, or people who come into any amount of 1649 01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:35,599 Speaker 1: money don't have to be three hundred million dollars. People 1650 01:50:35,640 --> 01:50:38,240 Speaker 1: who come into a million, two million dollars, they have 1651 01:50:38,280 --> 01:50:41,800 Speaker 1: a tendency to fritter it away because they spend as 1652 01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:46,120 Speaker 1: though that one or two million dollar lump, some gift 1653 01:50:46,479 --> 01:50:49,880 Speaker 1: or whatever will be sort of an annual thing. They 1654 01:50:49,920 --> 01:50:53,000 Speaker 1: don't take into account taxes, they don't take into account 1655 01:50:53,400 --> 01:50:56,000 Speaker 1: some of the payments that they're going to have to make, 1656 01:50:56,240 --> 01:50:59,800 Speaker 1: and they have a tendency to just spend all of 1657 01:50:59,840 --> 01:51:02,599 Speaker 1: it right away in a crazy binge. So what any 1658 01:51:02,680 --> 01:51:04,960 Speaker 1: money manager will tell you is, if you win a 1659 01:51:05,040 --> 01:51:09,320 Speaker 1: big jackpot like the power ball, take ten, fifteen, twenty 1660 01:51:09,479 --> 01:51:13,519 Speaker 1: million dollars right away and just go nuts with it. 1661 01:51:14,040 --> 01:51:17,000 Speaker 1: Buy the houses, buy the cars, buy the boats, buy 1662 01:51:17,120 --> 01:51:22,120 Speaker 1: the the global trips or whatever. The other thing you 1663 01:51:22,200 --> 01:51:25,320 Speaker 1: need to do is and this is the big reason 1664 01:51:25,479 --> 01:51:29,760 Speaker 1: people get into trouble, especially professional athletes who a lot 1665 01:51:29,840 --> 01:51:32,960 Speaker 1: of times don't come from even middle class backgrounds, and 1666 01:51:33,000 --> 01:51:35,759 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden they're making ten to fifteen 1667 01:51:35,840 --> 01:51:38,960 Speaker 1: twenty million dollars a year. They have a tendency to 1668 01:51:39,040 --> 01:51:41,760 Speaker 1: spend like that money that salary is always going to 1669 01:51:41,800 --> 01:51:44,120 Speaker 1: be coming in, when, of course everybody knows they have 1670 01:51:44,160 --> 01:51:47,840 Speaker 1: an incredibly short shelf life. The average football career is 1671 01:51:47,920 --> 01:51:51,160 Speaker 1: something like three four years. Baseball career is seven years. 1672 01:51:51,200 --> 01:51:53,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you have a finite amount of time to 1673 01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:56,360 Speaker 1: make all of the money that you are ever going 1674 01:51:56,439 --> 01:51:59,960 Speaker 1: to make in your lifetime. What I always tell uh athletes, 1675 01:52:00,080 --> 01:52:03,200 Speaker 1: it says, get really really good at broadcasting. I mean, 1676 01:52:03,400 --> 01:52:06,000 Speaker 1: take as many broadcasting courses as you can and actually 1677 01:52:06,080 --> 01:52:10,320 Speaker 1: take them seriously and get good at it, because you 1678 01:52:10,479 --> 01:52:13,439 Speaker 1: have a potentially lucrative career at least a very solid 1679 01:52:13,560 --> 01:52:16,759 Speaker 1: career afterwards. I mean, everybody knows what Tom Brady's getting 1680 01:52:16,800 --> 01:52:19,200 Speaker 1: thirty five million dollars a year whatever for Fox. He's 1681 01:52:19,240 --> 01:52:22,560 Speaker 1: not particularly good. But look at a guy like Vinnie Rotino, 1682 01:52:22,720 --> 01:52:26,000 Speaker 1: who does local brewers broadcast games, or up until recently, 1683 01:52:26,120 --> 01:52:31,000 Speaker 1: Steve Novak, you get professional ballplayers or college ball players 1684 01:52:31,439 --> 01:52:34,000 Speaker 1: who will hang on and catch on with the local 1685 01:52:34,080 --> 01:52:38,400 Speaker 1: radio or television broadcast or get with a local sports 1686 01:52:38,439 --> 01:52:42,000 Speaker 1: station make a very very good living. But back to 1687 01:52:42,240 --> 01:52:46,080 Speaker 1: the idea of compounding interest and compounding debt. If you 1688 01:52:46,240 --> 01:52:49,600 Speaker 1: find yourself in debt, your number one goal needs to 1689 01:52:49,760 --> 01:52:53,240 Speaker 1: be to pay off your debt as quickly as you can, 1690 01:52:53,360 --> 01:52:55,840 Speaker 1: as much as you can. So then the money that 1691 01:52:56,040 --> 01:52:59,920 Speaker 1: you are taking in that you're not needing to spend 1692 01:53:00,280 --> 01:53:05,360 Speaker 1: on necessities like housing costs, utility costs, food and grocery costs, 1693 01:53:06,080 --> 01:53:09,760 Speaker 1: school bills, whatever it is you budget for what I 1694 01:53:10,000 --> 01:53:13,840 Speaker 1: absolutely need to spend. You then budget a certain amount 1695 01:53:13,960 --> 01:53:18,160 Speaker 1: that you and your spouse decide is discretionary income once 1696 01:53:18,200 --> 01:53:20,120 Speaker 1: you are done paying down the debt. Now, the one 1697 01:53:20,280 --> 01:53:24,400 Speaker 1: debt that is sort of acceptable to carry for a 1698 01:53:24,479 --> 01:53:29,000 Speaker 1: long time is a mortgage. You want to have a mortgage, 1699 01:53:29,040 --> 01:53:31,400 Speaker 1: I mean, ideally, if you can pay off your mortgage 1700 01:53:31,520 --> 01:53:33,240 Speaker 1: due so you can be debt free and then of 1701 01:53:33,280 --> 01:53:38,080 Speaker 1: course just live off of compounding interest, just invest and save, 1702 01:53:38,240 --> 01:53:41,360 Speaker 1: invest and save. But a mortgage is sort of axempted 1703 01:53:41,479 --> 01:53:45,559 Speaker 1: from this. You want to get those car payments down. 1704 01:53:45,640 --> 01:53:47,439 Speaker 1: You want to get the car paid off as quickly 1705 01:53:47,479 --> 01:53:51,479 Speaker 1: as possible. Student loans have been just an absolute killer 1706 01:53:52,080 --> 01:53:55,920 Speaker 1: for people because they take out just a phenomenal amount 1707 01:53:55,960 --> 01:53:59,840 Speaker 1: of loans and then that is often not paid until 1708 01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:02,719 Speaker 1: someone is in their forties, and that is just that's 1709 01:54:02,800 --> 01:54:05,439 Speaker 1: something that is very, very difficult. That's why so many 1710 01:54:05,479 --> 01:54:08,760 Speaker 1: people like me say, look, the trades are a very 1711 01:54:09,000 --> 01:54:11,760 Speaker 1: viable option. If you don't know what you want to 1712 01:54:11,840 --> 01:54:15,879 Speaker 1: do with your life, don't get a four year degree 1713 01:54:16,200 --> 01:54:19,759 Speaker 1: where you know you're getting For me example, for example, 1714 01:54:19,800 --> 01:54:22,360 Speaker 1: I got a degree in English. I got a double major. 1715 01:54:22,400 --> 01:54:26,960 Speaker 1: I double majored in English and communication studies, and neither 1716 01:54:27,120 --> 01:54:31,040 Speaker 1: of those really are going to I obviously always knew 1717 01:54:31,080 --> 01:54:33,000 Speaker 1: I was going to go to law school, and ultimately 1718 01:54:33,040 --> 01:54:36,080 Speaker 1: I knew that I was going to be going into broadcasting. 1719 01:54:36,120 --> 01:54:37,560 Speaker 1: At least I hoped I was going to be able 1720 01:54:37,600 --> 01:54:40,160 Speaker 1: to go into broadcasting and make a career out of this. 1721 01:54:40,840 --> 01:54:43,760 Speaker 1: But if I had gone into English, like if my 1722 01:54:43,840 --> 01:54:45,800 Speaker 1: degree was English, I'm going to go to college, I 1723 01:54:45,840 --> 01:54:48,320 Speaker 1: don't exactly know what I'm going to do, well, your 1724 01:54:48,360 --> 01:54:52,320 Speaker 1: options are pretty limited. It's kind of limited to English 1725 01:54:52,400 --> 01:54:55,960 Speaker 1: teacher to do something with your degree. Now, obviously you 1726 01:54:56,080 --> 01:55:00,560 Speaker 1: can go and get a job pretty much anywhere. But 1727 01:55:01,040 --> 01:55:04,560 Speaker 1: if you're going for something that is highly specified, you 1728 01:55:04,640 --> 01:55:07,800 Speaker 1: need a degree in that. But if you're just looking, 1729 01:55:07,800 --> 01:55:09,960 Speaker 1: oh okay, I want to get a degree in business, yes, 1730 01:55:10,160 --> 01:55:15,000 Speaker 1: obviously most places do require a college degree, but oftentimes 1731 01:55:15,440 --> 01:55:18,960 Speaker 1: you're better off going and not taking on a whole 1732 01:55:19,080 --> 01:55:22,280 Speaker 1: lot of debt, working with your hands. And obviously AI 1733 01:55:23,080 --> 01:55:25,520 Speaker 1: is the big X factor in all of this. AI 1734 01:55:25,720 --> 01:55:28,360 Speaker 1: is probably going to take a whole lot of white 1735 01:55:28,400 --> 01:55:31,520 Speaker 1: collar jobs over the next twenty to thirty years. All Right, 1736 01:55:31,560 --> 01:55:34,360 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the clock and we are getting very 1737 01:55:34,400 --> 01:55:37,000 Speaker 1: close to the end of the show. I thank goodness 1738 01:55:37,040 --> 01:55:39,640 Speaker 1: I had more time than I realized I did, because 1739 01:55:39,640 --> 01:55:43,520 Speaker 1: that was quite the discussion for a step off point 1740 01:55:43,640 --> 01:55:46,720 Speaker 1: of the Powerball Jackpot. But that's what we do here 1741 01:55:46,920 --> 01:55:50,520 Speaker 1: on the Dan o'donald's Show. We talk a little bit 1742 01:55:50,560 --> 01:55:53,960 Speaker 1: deeper about the issues. Thanks to everyone for listening, Thanks 1743 01:55:54,000 --> 01:55:56,520 Speaker 1: to our producer Eric Paulson. We are back tomorrow three 1744 01:55:56,600 --> 01:55:59,440 Speaker 1: h six pm right here on The Dan o'donald's Show.