Speaker 1: Jase here, it is election day. Do you miss the
Speaker 1: old you were on the on the political beat there
Speaker 1: for a minute or two?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, man, I do miss it. And uh I
Speaker 2: miss I missed the.
Speaker 3: Adrenaline rush of being in the newsroom on election night. However,
Speaker 3: you get that adrenaline rush a lot more in sports
Speaker 3: on every every Sunday. Covering a Bengals game reminds me
Speaker 3: a lot of of covering an election.
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not being facetious.
Speaker 3: That's actually we joke about in sports because it's like
Speaker 3: there's a lot of election nights on the sports side
Speaker 3: of things.
Speaker 1: Well, this guy has been involved in many an election night.
Speaker 1: He is Polly pi at UC. He is a great
Speaker 1: friend of this show. He is professor doctorate if you will,
Speaker 1: David Niven from the University of Cincinnati. Uh, Dave, how you.
Speaker 4: Doing, man, I'm doing well, Addie. That's that's quite the
Speaker 4: intro here.
Speaker 1: I can kind of sounds that we tried to build
Speaker 1: you up to get you keep coming back, Eddie.
Speaker 3: I missed talking to this guy, calling him up and
Speaker 3: blowing him up about everything. But I know he's apprecive
Speaker 3: that I'm not calling him all the time.
Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you, besides this a stupid radio
Speaker 1: host to bugging you all the time, David, what did
Speaker 1: guys like Jason be bugging you all the time as well?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean I got every every everybody
Speaker 6: in the election world today, and then I had to
Speaker 6: wake up this morning and talk about our former Vice
Speaker 6: president Dick Cheney. So it's been a busy day.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: All right, Well let's talk about this election, and first off,
Speaker 1: the local ramifications here. Do you see all the rigmar
Speaker 1: role going on with the mayor and the police chief
Speaker 1: having any effect at all? Or do the people in
Speaker 1: the outlet in the in the burbs really pay that
Speaker 1: much attention to what's going on downtown you told me.
Speaker 6: I mean, I think the short answer is if this
Speaker 6: were a competitive rates it's this, you know, we're two
Speaker 6: candidates on reasonably equal footing, then the whole election could
Speaker 6: hinge on this. But I mean, you've got a couple
Speaker 6: of things going on, you know. One you know is
Speaker 6: this is the first Republican in in Bawman running for
Speaker 6: mayor in more than fifteen years. For a reason, because
Speaker 6: this is this is not an easy task, and you know,
Speaker 6: this is not.
Speaker 5: A particularly fruitful path.
Speaker 6: And then, of course the other aspect of this is
Speaker 6: Cincinnati has such an odd system of government. You know,
Speaker 6: in a in an we'll call it normal city, a
Speaker 6: mayor could fire the police chief and would have a
Speaker 6: much more direct line of authority accountability over things. You know,
Speaker 6: Cincinnati kind of breaks everything into into pieces, and those
Speaker 6: pieces into pieces, so you know, it kind of muddies
Speaker 6: the water. Certainly Mayor Piirval would have preferred not to
Speaker 6: have this bit of turmoil, you know, on the agenda
Speaker 6: right now. But you know it's just a question of
Speaker 6: you know, is it a sixty point win or a
Speaker 6: seventy point win.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Professor Niven, I thought of this, I don't know,
Speaker 3: within the past week or so, just with all the
Speaker 3: stuff that's going on with crime and the police chief,
Speaker 3: and you know, videos coming out about the brawl, and
Speaker 3: you know that that being continuing to be a narrative
Speaker 3: in this election. If you're the again, this is something
Speaker 3: to talk about tomorrow and days after. But I think
Speaker 3: we all know how you just said, the results of
Speaker 3: this AFTAB is going to win if you are the
Speaker 3: Republicans and the Charter rights. Are you sitting here kicking
Speaker 3: yourself thinking, knowing, knowing now what's come about, and if
Speaker 3: they would have put up a more better known, well
Speaker 3: funded candidate, would that candidate potentially have had a shot.
Speaker 6: I mean, I think, yes, you're kicking yourself just because
Speaker 6: this opportunity, this window isn't going to open in every
Speaker 6: every cycle. And you know what you have is basically
Speaker 6: this this kind of part time you know, mayoral candidate
Speaker 6: who you know, it was a nice oddity and got
Speaker 6: a little attention, but wasn't seriously running to be mayor
Speaker 6: of Cincinnati. And you know, obviously we saw four years ago,
Speaker 6: you know, in David Mann, you know, a credible a
Speaker 6: credible opponent for for now mayor, pure ball and it
Speaker 6: still isn't easy and he got his clock cleaned. But
Speaker 6: you know, that's that's the very first rule of all
Speaker 6: of this. You know, when when you talk about well,
Speaker 6: you know, how does you know, how does the how
Speaker 6: does the party that's the underdog, how does it ever win?
Speaker 6: You know, how do the Democrats have the governor's office
Speaker 6: in Kentucky? Well they have the governor's office because they
Speaker 6: put up an incredible candidate. And you know, how are
Speaker 6: you ever going to knock in, you know, and get
Speaker 6: yourself in the in the mayor's office, knock in that door. Well,
Speaker 6: you better start with a super credible candidate. And it
Speaker 6: is particularly ironic that we have this kind of alumni
Speaker 6: force of former council members running for council in this cycle,
Speaker 6: you know, rather than one of them running for mayor.
Speaker 1: Right, we're talking to David Niven, and Dave, let's talk
Speaker 1: about the national ramifications of what President Trump has done
Speaker 1: his first year in office. How is that going to
Speaker 1: I mean, we're looking at we're looking at the mayoral
Speaker 1: race in New York City. Everybody's all wound up about
Speaker 1: that New Jersey governor, Virginia governor, the redistrict in California.
Speaker 1: What do you see happening nationwide with all this stuff?
Speaker 6: Well, truth is, of course, it's a little silly to
Speaker 6: talk about, but it's actually a very real effect that
Speaker 6: you know, national politics matters all the way down even
Speaker 6: into these Cincinnati races in terms of we're seeing turnout
Speaker 6: boosts in every special election, in every local election this
Speaker 6: year heading into today, and it's based on people wanting
Speaker 6: to have a chance to vote and voice their disagreement
Speaker 6: with the administration and I mean, we literally have seen
Speaker 6: this in special elections in several states for state legislative offices,
Speaker 6: and we've seen this in city races. So you know,
Speaker 6: I do think it is a there's going to be
Speaker 6: a telling set of numbers when the day is done.
Speaker 6: You know, if we see a democratic boost, you know
Speaker 6: in those states that you mentioned, like New Jersey and Virginia,
Speaker 6: but also even just in Cincinnati, I mean, they're going
Speaker 6: to be people who show up to vote not because
Speaker 6: they particularly care about the city council or the mayor's race,
Speaker 6: but just because they want to participate.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of piggybacking along those lines, all this
Speaker 3: stuff about mom don Mamdani in New York and how
Speaker 3: that's become a national story. And I guess you know
Speaker 3: a lot of times, you know, those of us across
Speaker 3: the country at least pay attention of politics on a
Speaker 3: casual basis kind of know who the mayor of New
Speaker 3: York is?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 3: Do you are you reading deeper into that or are
Speaker 3: you I don't know. There's three guys in that race,
Speaker 3: and if that were a head to head between Cuomo
Speaker 3: and mom Donnie, is that a different story there.
Speaker 6: I mean, I do think it would be a different race.
Speaker 6: But you know, Cuomo has done one of the most
Speaker 6: spectacular jobs you know, in the history of politics of
Speaker 6: getting a segment of the population to seriously dislike him,
Speaker 6: you just despise him. I mean, that's a unique talent.
Speaker 5: Not everybody can pull that up.
Speaker 6: He's done it, true, So I do think the dynamic
Speaker 6: would be different one on one, but I think the
Speaker 6: bottom line in the end would be, you know, people
Speaker 6: would enthusiastically vote against him, and others would have to
Speaker 6: be dragged to the polls holding their nose to vote
Speaker 6: for him. So I don't think he wins. That wins
Speaker 6: that either way. But this does absolutely make make the
Speaker 6: Cuomo scenario even less.
Speaker 3: Like, what do you what do you make of the
Speaker 3: fact that you know, all the socialist thing of mom,
Speaker 3: Donnie and and I know there's fear mongering from at
Speaker 3: least certain certain media outlets or whatever about you know,
Speaker 3: a socialist getting elected to such a big seat like that.
Speaker 3: I saw George will on Bill Maher last week saying
Speaker 3: this is a good thing. You know, every once in
Speaker 3: a while you need to you need to show the
Speaker 3: country that socialism doesn't work. But what do you make
Speaker 3: of that, is that does this give hope to the
Speaker 3: socialist movement so to speak, across the country or is
Speaker 3: this just kind of one off and everybody will see
Speaker 3: that this really doesn't work.
Speaker 6: Well, you know, it's it's been a tough century or
Speaker 6: two for the socialist political.
Speaker 2: Movement, sure when it started.
Speaker 5: Give them a moment in the sun.
Speaker 6: I mean, I think the bottom line is this is
Speaker 6: this is people driven. You know, it's easy to throw
Speaker 6: labels out there, but if they didn't have a very,
Speaker 6: very talented candidate, yeah, you know, then we wouldn't be
Speaker 6: having this conversation. And I think that's that's true across
Speaker 6: the board. And you know what makes New York compelling,
Speaker 6: you know, New York City compelling? Why we we should
Speaker 6: be talking about it. It's got a government that's as
Speaker 6: big as a state. So you know, this is you know,
Speaker 6: you know, a a government structure that's bigger than the
Speaker 6: structure of the government of Ohio a significant figure. But
Speaker 6: you know, let's keep in mind, you know, the Democratic
Speaker 6: Party is strong there and it's going to assert its will.
Speaker 6: You know, for all of the tumult of the Atoms
Speaker 6: administration in New York, you know, it's still a city
Speaker 6: that pursues policies well inside the mainstream of the Democratic Party,
Speaker 6: and I would look for that to continue. It's, you know,
Speaker 6: it's nice to have a you know, a prominent mayor
Speaker 6: on the socialist side from the socialist perspective, but that
Speaker 6: doesn't mean you suddenly get your way on everything.
Speaker 3: As as they say, campaigning is different than governing right.
Speaker 6: Right, and it's very different. And you know, a famous
Speaker 6: Onion headline, I won't quote a word for word, but
Speaker 6: you know it's it's a mock headline in the voice
Speaker 6: of Bill de Blasio saying, well, well, well, well, it's
Speaker 6: not so easy to get a mayor who isn't terrible?
Speaker 5: Is it New York?
Speaker 6: And you know, it's a it's a really really challenging job.
Speaker 6: I mean, in no joking terms, it's a challenging job.
Speaker 6: And you know, I think the folks who've thrived in it,
Speaker 6: you know, people like Bloomberg who certainly thrived as mayor,
Speaker 6: you know, had a certain levelness to them and you know,
Speaker 6: an ability to just literally show up and do the job.
Speaker 6: It's it's it's I think, ultimately a job that reveals
Speaker 6: your you know, lack of attention span or or lack
Speaker 6: of clarity of purpose, and that's certainly eaten up a
Speaker 6: number of recent mayors.
Speaker 1: All right with that, David, and we will let you go, buddy,
Speaker 1: Thanks so much.
Speaker 2: Great stuff.
Speaker 5: All right, boys, it was a pleasure.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much. Thank you, David Niven Polysi you see.
Speaker 1: And yeah, great insight to what's going on around here
Speaker 1: and what's going on around the country.
Speaker 3: Always great insight. There's a reason why we all call
Speaker 3: him because he knows a lot about a lot and
Speaker 3: gives you a great common sense perspective on all this stuff.
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Speaker 1: Back with Eddie and Jason Williams from the Inquiry in
Speaker 1: for Rocky Today. Rock is in Toledo, lovely Toledo, Ohio.
Speaker 2: It's uh, it's November, so that means it's maction.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's going to be doing I think he's got
Speaker 1: the Uh, he's going to be in my Oxford next week.
Speaker 1: He's got to Miami game.
Speaker 2: He does. He does have the game Miami next week,
Speaker 2: Toledo tonight.
Speaker 1: So Jason, everybody's these days talking about we've been all
Speaker 1: wound up about the price of eggs now for about
Speaker 1: five years and uh, and now everything is just more expensive,
Speaker 1: it seems like day to day. And we've all heard
Speaker 1: what was the what's the shrink flation? Shrink flation? Yes,
Speaker 1: when you you know, you get a bag of chips,
Speaker 1: and it used to and it doesn't sound like much,
Speaker 1: but it used to whatever it used to be, twelve ounces,
Speaker 1: and now it's ten and a half or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, same same size bag.
Speaker 1: Right, same size bag, a little more air, same price, yeah,
Speaker 1: or more or even more. But now we are besides
Speaker 1: shrink flation, we have skimpflation and sneak flation and flation flation. Hell,
Speaker 1: I don't know what else, what kind of flation half
Speaker 1: But we're gonna be talking to a good friend, Bill Dendy,
Speaker 1: our financial guy, about all this stuff. And you know,
Speaker 1: that's it's one of those things that I uh. And
Speaker 1: by the way, we we don't have Tanya Shue. They
Speaker 1: have election day to day obviously, so they're they're quite
Speaker 1: busy at nine. But and that's one of those things.
Speaker 1: And I think everybody noticed this along the way. Get
Speaker 1: a bag because I love me some potato chips. Get
Speaker 1: a bag of chips, and you open the damn thing
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, what's up? All that air
Speaker 1: comes out of there and you're reaching that bag and
Speaker 1: you reach halfway and you're half of your arm has
Speaker 1: disappeared into the bag before you strike chip. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, It's going even deeper now. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: and you're paying more for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And sneak flation is that that has to do with it? Well,
Speaker 1: well we'll just.
Speaker 2: What Bill says, but gimpflation.
Speaker 1: That sounds a little but it's all you know, look
Speaker 1: Riskue And we've talked about restaurants before. It's gotta be
Speaker 1: real tough to be in the restaurant business right now.
Speaker 1: I don't envy those folks at all.
Speaker 12: Man.
Speaker 3: No, And it feels like I've talked with our you
Speaker 3: know we you've had him on there, you like Keith
Speaker 3: PANDOLPHI from the Inquiries that he did a story on,
Speaker 3: you know, a couple of years ago, and uh, he
Speaker 3: and I talked. I'm like, man, it's crazy how many
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Speaker 3: when I see a new restaurant go in somewhere, I'm like,
Speaker 3: good luck, good luck fellas or ladies like you ever
Speaker 3: opened it, because uh, that's a tough go. We're gonna
Speaker 3: be talking to Bill Dendy about all this shrink flation
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Speaker 15: Now, what do you think about the possibility of a
Speaker 15: divided council. We'll see how that goes later today, But
Speaker 15: what are your thoughts are working for?
Speaker 16: It's hard to predict what's going to happen later today,
Speaker 16: But what I'm focused on for the rest of today
Speaker 16: is reminding folks of all of the incredible work this
Speaker 16: Council has done over the past four years to grow
Speaker 16: our economy, to invest in public safety, to grow our
Speaker 16: affordable housing supply, and you know, the future is bright.
Speaker 4: We just got to keep going.
Speaker 14: Incumbent Cincinnati Mayor f tab Pirvaal speaking today on this
Speaker 14: election day. He is running for reelection against Republican Corey Bowman.
Speaker 4: All that depends on who shows up today.
Speaker 17: Obviously, based on the numbers that we're seeing from early voting,
Speaker 17: I'm the very encouraged mayoral candidate.
Speaker 18: Corey Bowman says he'll win if enough people go to
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Speaker 1: Back with Eddie and Jason Williams in for Rocky Today
Speaker 1: and Jace. We were talking about it going into going
Speaker 1: into the news. We've all heard a shrink flation, but
Speaker 1: there's well now there's more flation stuff going on, and
Speaker 1: here to discuss is is our good friend, our financial guy,
Speaker 1: our money manager, a CPA. He knows all, he sees
Speaker 1: all when it comes to your finances. He is our
Speaker 1: good friend. Bill Dendy, Bill, welcome back to the program.
Speaker 4: Guys. It's great to be with you.
Speaker 1: So Bill, we're talking about this stuff. And we you know,
Speaker 1: we've all heard of the shrink flation where you know,
Speaker 1: you used to get whatever, fifteen ounces of potato chips
Speaker 1: and now you get thirteen ounces in the same sized
Speaker 1: bag and that and on and on and on. But
Speaker 1: now we have skimflation and sneak flation.
Speaker 4: Explain well, it's kind of funny.
Speaker 22: Companies are looking for ways to lower their calls to
Speaker 22: production without messing up their margins, and one of the
Speaker 22: things that they're turning to is using lower quality ingredients.
Speaker 4: That's skimflation.
Speaker 22: And they're like, well, gosh, we can't charge more, the
Speaker 22: consumers will quit buying our and so we can put
Speaker 22: less product in the package and that helps. Or instead
Speaker 22: of using real butter, we can use something else. Or
Speaker 22: instead of being ice cream, let's make it a frozen
Speaker 22: dairy treat.
Speaker 4: Instead of being.
Speaker 22: Chicken, let's make chicken pieces or chicken like substance and
Speaker 22: if people can't tell the difference, well, then we get
Speaker 22: to increase the margins without increasing the prices.
Speaker 4: And this is kind of a.
Speaker 22: It'd be great if it really worked, but the problem
Speaker 22: is you can taste the difference. You can tell it's
Speaker 22: not the same product. And it's only after you take
Speaker 22: the time to read the fine print you're like, oh
Speaker 22: my gosh, they've changed the ingredients. The grains that they're
Speaker 22: using are less expensive in the granola. The sugar that
Speaker 22: they're using is now going to be the corn syrup.
Speaker 22: The creams are no longer creams. It's a milk and
Speaker 22: buy products and it's not the same. And so for
Speaker 22: consumers it feels their dishonest when you become the victim
Speaker 22: of skimflation.
Speaker 7: Bill A.
Speaker 3: Is there an example of a company out there who's
Speaker 3: in the crosshairs of this very thing? And then b
Speaker 3: are companies doing this because of you know, higher costs
Speaker 3: of shipping they're trying to hedge here and cut off
Speaker 3: or you know what's going on with that.
Speaker 22: Well, for a while, it was the price of oil
Speaker 22: and the shipping costs, and we had that backlog. But
Speaker 22: at this point, this is more the result of the
Speaker 22: high inflation we experienced a couple of years ago finally
Speaker 22: to catch up with cost. You know, companies, when they
Speaker 22: had the higher prices of their supplies, their inputs, a
Speaker 22: lot of them didn't raise their prices. They started absorbing
Speaker 22: some of the negative impacts of inflation, and they didn't
Speaker 22: want to raise their prices because if they raised their prices,
Speaker 22: they ran the risk of losing market share. And so
Speaker 22: instead of raising the prices, they reduced the portions size,
Speaker 22: and we got used to seeing that, and then the
Speaker 22: next step was, well, if nobody else is raising their prices,
Speaker 22: and that's the first thing consumer see. If we can't
Speaker 22: lower the portion size, let's lower the cost of what
Speaker 22: we're putting into the ingredients. And that was the skinflation.
Speaker 22: But when you change ingredients or manufacturing processes, even when
Speaker 22: you change packaging, it takes a while from the corporate
Speaker 22: boardroom where the decision is made to not raise the
Speaker 22: prices but to combat inflation to do something else, to
Speaker 22: the time it gets to the shelves. And so I
Speaker 22: think what we're seeing this year is a lot of
Speaker 22: this stuff has finally just found it to the shelves
Speaker 22: and consumers are noticing it. But it's the impact of
Speaker 22: the inflation we all witnessed a couple of years ago
Speaker 22: and companies choosing not to raise their prices because studies
Speaker 22: have shown that if you raise your prices, you're four
Speaker 22: times more likely to get a negative response from a consumer,
Speaker 22: that is, they go someplace else, versus if you just
Speaker 22: cut the package size or cut the cost of ingredients,
Speaker 22: they're less like to leave you. They may be frustrated,
Speaker 22: but they're less likely to go away. And then the
Speaker 22: other thing that you know we talked about is sneak
Speaker 22: place where it's not so much at the grocery store,
Speaker 22: but when they start charging for things that used to
Speaker 22: be free. My personal example was a trip to Vegas
Speaker 22: a couple months ago. I was surprised with the airline
Speaker 22: that you know, you want a seat on this plane,
Speaker 22: Well you got you got a space, but you don't
Speaker 22: have a seat. There is a charge for any seat
Speaker 22: unless you want the last roll that doesn't reclimb. We
Speaker 22: got a free seat there, but every other seat's going
Speaker 22: to cost you. And you want to take a bag, well,
Speaker 22: the carry ons now charge costs as well.
Speaker 4: And these things used to be free.
Speaker 22: And then you get to the hotel and they're like, uh, yeah,
Speaker 22: the hotel price is this, but there's a forty dollars
Speaker 22: a night resort fee. I'm like, well, what do you
Speaker 22: get for the resort fee and they say, well, you
Speaker 22: get to use our swimming pool and you get free internet.
Speaker 22: I'm like, for forty dollars a night that should have
Speaker 22: been disclosed somewhere because that didn't.
Speaker 4: Used to be the case at this place.
Speaker 22: And they're like, yeah, but everybody else is doing it.
Speaker 22: So instead of raising the prices of the hotel, or
Speaker 22: instead of raising the prices of the airline tickets, they
Speaker 22: sneak in something else that used to be free at
Speaker 22: an additional cost, and studies have shown that over several years.
Speaker 22: The Senate report said the airlines have made about twelve
Speaker 22: billion dollars from seat selection fees over the past five
Speaker 22: years from twenty eighteen to twenty twenty three, So it's
Speaker 22: replacing lost revenues that they would have had had they
Speaker 22: raised their prices. They didn't have to raise their prices,
Speaker 22: but they increased their revenues to offset some of their
Speaker 22: additional costs. With this sneaky way of adding costs to
Speaker 22: things that used to be free.
Speaker 1: We're talking to Bill Dendy and Bill, Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: reading a story not too long ago that it's starting
Speaker 1: to Vegas is starting to get backlash on that because
Speaker 1: they're most notorious for it, where yeah, you know, it
Speaker 1: used to be able to Well that's cool. You can
Speaker 1: get a room on the strip for you know, seventy
Speaker 1: five dollars a night. That's great. Well, then they charge
Speaker 1: you seventy five dollars you know, resort fee. Like you said,
Speaker 1: they they charge you seventy bucks to park and the
Speaker 1: buffet that used to be five ninety nine is now
Speaker 1: seventy nine ninety nine. So yeah, they get you man,
Speaker 1: And people are starting with that push back.
Speaker 4: We could have had a Caribbean vacation or something. I
Speaker 4: don't know, but.
Speaker 22: It's gonna take a lot of consumers voting with their pocketbooks.
Speaker 22: And I think the consumers will I think that a
Speaker 22: lot of corporations will rethink these policies. But we we
Speaker 22: haven't had this kind of fight with inflation for a
Speaker 22: couple of decades, and so they have inflation come back,
Speaker 22: and companies aside, instead of raising prices, we're gonna figure
Speaker 22: we're gonna solve it some other way, well, I think
Speaker 22: they're gonna find that their solutions are going skinpy on
Speaker 22: the ingredients will cost them customers. Eventually, they'll just take
Speaker 22: customers a while to figure out who's still offering quality.
Speaker 4: And I think that the.
Speaker 22: Place like Vegas who over gollogs will one day find
Speaker 22: that they're not bringing in more tourists because of that,
Speaker 22: and those that come back and say, here's the real deal,
Speaker 22: even if it's eighty dollars a night, they'll actually attract
Speaker 22: happier consumers and the markets will self adjust. But for now,
Speaker 22: I think a lot of consumers are going to need
Speaker 22: to be a little bit more vigilant than what we've
Speaker 22: been in the past and be aware of what are
Speaker 22: we actually getting when we make our purchase. Is it
Speaker 22: the same ingredients as it used to be? Are there
Speaker 22: any hidden fees or additional costs that are oh there,
Speaker 22: they are right there and the fine print at the
Speaker 22: bottom that are not shown on the front line when
Speaker 22: they have the price shown on the cost per nde.
Speaker 4: Or the costs for your airfare.
Speaker 22: And I think consumers are getting more savvy, but I
Speaker 22: think a lot of people were hit with this all
Speaker 22: at the same time, so there is a consumer backlash,
Speaker 22: and some consumers say, not fair. You're going to change
Speaker 22: the ingredients. Congress should make a law. There would be
Speaker 22: a law against that, sure enough. There might be laws
Speaker 22: coming out real soon that say, if you're going to
Speaker 22: change your ingredients, you have to say not the old ingredient,
Speaker 22: or new packaging or new pricing, or not as much
Speaker 22: as it used to be in this package. I don't
Speaker 22: know what they're going to do, but I hate more laws.
Speaker 22: But I do think that consumers have been caught off guard,
Speaker 22: and it was a dangerous game that companies were deciding
Speaker 22: to play when they decided not to just go ahead
Speaker 22: and raise their prices and pass on the cost to
Speaker 22: the consumer directly, but try to hide it in some
Speaker 22: other way.
Speaker 3: Build kind of a bigger picture of what you're all
Speaker 3: the stuff that you're talking about here are high grocery prices,
Speaker 3: or the grocery prices, you know, the food prices even restaurants,
Speaker 3: whatever the price we're paying for food. And it seems
Speaker 3: like it's been here for a while. Now are those
Speaker 3: here to stay or the It just it's hard to
Speaker 3: see going back now, right? Are we going to go
Speaker 3: back to the day I don't know prior to when
Speaker 3: it all kind of go crazy, like right right after
Speaker 3: the pandemic, when we go back to the pre pandemic,
Speaker 3: you know, food prices.
Speaker 22: Yeah, I like your question because you know, a lot
Speaker 22: of people believe that when inflation's under control, it means
Speaker 22: that everything goes back to where it was.
Speaker 4: But that's not what it means.
Speaker 22: It means that price is quite increasing by the hyper
Speaker 22: fast rate. They just increased at a slower rate, but
Speaker 22: they generally don't go down yet. Some companies, I think
Speaker 22: it was McDonald's, got a lot of backlash because their
Speaker 22: meals were gotten up to fifteen dollars plus, and so
Speaker 22: they responded back after the negative backlash by saying, okay,
Speaker 22: here is the new five dollars meal deal, and the
Speaker 22: five dollar meal deal came back. It wasn't the same,
Speaker 22: it was the trimmed down versions perhaps, but they responded
Speaker 22: positively back and regained some market share, perhaps because they
Speaker 22: were the only ones offering the real deals.
Speaker 4: And going back.
Speaker 22: We see how Walmart rolled back the prices to where
Speaker 22: they used to be, but it's rare. Generally, once you
Speaker 22: have inflation, things we don't go back down. But the
Speaker 22: one thing you mentioned just a few moments ago, was
Speaker 22: it is that the high costs of transportation causing these
Speaker 22: things to go up, And it had been, but the
Speaker 22: price of oil has come down dramatically. And I spent
Speaker 22: some time in Midland, Texas just yesterday talking to those
Speaker 22: in the oil patch, saying that it's amazing that now
Speaker 22: we have more production coming out of the United States
Speaker 22: of America than they have in the Soviet Union, more
Speaker 22: production than coming out of Saudi Arabia. The United States
Speaker 22: has taken over the wild is number one oil producer again,
Speaker 22: which is wonderful, and then not so wonderful for the
Speaker 22: price of oil. They're saying. The price of oil has
Speaker 22: gone down. So it's one thing that you did see
Speaker 22: come down over the past few years. As we've increased
Speaker 22: our production. We have plenty of supply, and had that
Speaker 22: not come down, we would see a lot worse inflationary
Speaker 22: numbers in our systems. Here today, we still have inflation,
Speaker 22: but not as bad as it would have been if
Speaker 22: oil prices had stayed at those higher levels. And I
Speaker 22: think that we do have some areas everything's transported, so
Speaker 22: when price of oil is up, it costs a little
Speaker 22: bit more from most goods that you're going to purchase.
Speaker 22: And then many primary ingredients of products come from oil,
Speaker 22: and so the petroleum industry having lower costs for a
Speaker 22: lot of our inputs means that we have controlled some inflation.
Speaker 22: But I don't think prices are going back to where
Speaker 22: they were in nineteen ninety five.
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Speaker 1: It is always our pleasure. Thanks so much for joining us.
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Speaker 1: He knows all, he sees all. Our good friend, Dave Hatter. Dave, No,
Speaker 1: You're always sending the c stories. And one that really
Speaker 1: caught my eye this week is the headline is Russia. Russia,
Speaker 1: China increasingly using AI to escalate cyber attacks in the
Speaker 1: United States. So let me I just got me to
Speaker 1: think in this and I'm in the most simple terms
Speaker 1: that I can think of, and I'm pretty simple. Are
Speaker 1: we constantly being barraged with cyber attacks from all sides
Speaker 1: every single minute of every single day.
Speaker 12: Now, well, Eddie, I would say you're not only right,
Speaker 12: you're underestimating. It's more like barads by cyber attacks on
Speaker 12: all sides every millisecond of the day. You know a
Speaker 12: lot of people who've been in this for a while
Speaker 12: may remember all kinds of like personal firewall tools like
Speaker 12: the alarm where you could set it up on your
Speaker 12: personal computer and it would show you the sheer number
Speaker 12: of outside let's say, queries or probes against your computer
Speaker 12: and it would usually be mind blowing.
Speaker 4: People.
Speaker 12: I would bet you if you win and you asked
Speaker 12: your I people there at iHeart to tell you how
Speaker 12: often in a day is there some sort of probe
Speaker 12: against our firewall? It would be mind boggling to you
Speaker 12: what they would tell you. And yes, these attacks are
Speaker 12: coming from everywhere. Now, this article from Security Week, you know,
Speaker 12: points out some important things. I'll get back to you.
Speaker 12: But I think the thing people often misunderstand about this is,
Speaker 12: in many cases, this is not where some guys sitting
Speaker 12: in this model's basement thinking, Hey, I think I'll attack
Speaker 12: iHeart today. Now I'm not saying that doesn't happen, it does.
Speaker 12: You know, businesses aren't targeted because they have specific information
Speaker 12: that the hackers want to steal, you know, trade secrets,
Speaker 12: military secrets, whatever. But a lot of this stuff is
Speaker 12: fully automated and AI is making us worse, and they're
Speaker 12: literally just scanning the Internet for anything that's connected they find.
Speaker 12: This is one of the reasons why you should never
Speaker 12: answer a call.
Speaker 4: You don't know.
Speaker 12: It's the same kind of thing. But you know, to
Speaker 12: people they're just scanning and they find something connected, they
Speaker 12: can scan it and say, okay, can I determine what
Speaker 12: this thing is? Can I determine does it have any
Speaker 12: known vulnerabilities because they haven't installed the software updates we
Speaker 12: talk about all the time, and you know, don't work
Speaker 12: backwards from there. So there's automated scanning at scale, especially
Speaker 12: for nation state actors like China and Russia ran in
Speaker 12: North Korea. Kind of the evil access of cybersecurity, if
Speaker 12: you will. Yeah, it's it's continuous, it's around the cloth.
Speaker 12: It's increasing as the speed of their systems gets faster
Speaker 12: and can scan more. And I think that's the thing
Speaker 12: people don't get. This isn't someone thinking today is the
Speaker 12: day I'm going to target the local grocery store or
Speaker 12: you know, the corner mechanic shop. They're just looking for
Speaker 12: things that are connected to the Internet, which is increasingly everything,
Speaker 12: and then trying to figure out how they can get
Speaker 12: in to steal money from there, and then you know
Speaker 12: likewise they're targeting people with fishing and fishing, et cetera.
Speaker 2: Why, maybe it's a silly question, but hear me out, Daves.
Speaker 3: You know, in Russia, obviously the adversaries of the US
Speaker 3: are attacking the US. But why is the US more
Speaker 3: prime for cyber attacks? Besides the obvious that those two
Speaker 3: countries aren't our friends. But there are other rich nations
Speaker 3: out there. But what makes us more vulnerable beyond the
Speaker 3: fact that those are our adversaries? Is it because we
Speaker 3: have a lot of money? Is because it is our
Speaker 3: basically our our it general infrastructure not as good as
Speaker 3: Saudi Arabia or Japan or what.
Speaker 5: Well, that's a good.
Speaker 12: Question, and it's certainly not exclusive to US, Jason. In fact,
Speaker 12: I just saw a headline which I don't have the
Speaker 12: fun of me, but apparently at least five different water
Speaker 12: plants have recently been attacked in the UK.
Speaker 2: You know this is happening everywhere.
Speaker 12: You don't have to look too far. You know, the
Speaker 12: US is a prime target because obviously you could argue
Speaker 12: we are the sole superpower. People would argue, well, you've
Speaker 12: got China out there that's kind of.
Speaker 5: Reached pair with us.
Speaker 12: Yeah maybe, Yeah, we have a lot of money. And
Speaker 12: you know, I would argue, because I'm talking to businesses
Speaker 12: about this all day long and trying to get people
Speaker 12: to take it seriously, that many folks really underestimate what
Speaker 12: the damage of a cyber attack can be to their organization,
Speaker 12: where the business, nonprofit whatever. You know, it could be
Speaker 12: theft of sensitive data, it could be reputational damage, it
Speaker 12: could be expensive downtime that in some cases you don't
Speaker 12: ever recover from. I don't know if you guys saw
Speaker 12: the story. You know, Range Rover in the UK recently
Speaker 12: got hit with a devastating cyber attack. Was down roughly
Speaker 12: two months, and the numbers I've seen are in the
Speaker 12: billions of dollars lost. People laid off from range Rover,
Speaker 12: people laid off from range Rover suppliers. So it's certainly
Speaker 12: not exclusive to us, you know, depending on what the
Speaker 12: hackers are after, which in most cases, outside of these
Speaker 12: nation state attacks like China, it's money, right, they're looking
Speaker 12: for money. But you know, businesses can have their email
Speaker 12: accounts taken over. Next thing, you know, fraudulent invoices go
Speaker 12: out to the team of tens of thousands to millions
Speaker 12: of dollars loss. So it's not just downtime, it's not
Speaker 12: just data theft. It's outright, you know, fraud and theft
Speaker 12: of dollars through deceit. And you know, again it's not
Speaker 12: just us. But I think part of what makes us
Speaker 12: a target is, yes, we have a lot of money,
Speaker 12: and businesses, organizations have all shapes and sizes. Gusts do
Speaker 12: not take this seriously enough. You know, do you have
Speaker 12: insurance for firing your plant?
Speaker 5: Probably?
Speaker 12: Are you likely to have a fire? Probably not? Do
Speaker 12: you have sprinklers, the smoke detectors and all those sorts
Speaker 12: of things startler all on. I mean, I think people
Speaker 12: understand the threat in the physical world, but I think
Speaker 12: a lot of people still think I'm too small, I
Speaker 12: don't have anything we're stealing. And as a result of that,
Speaker 12: and frankly, because you know, there's a lot of confuse opy.
Speaker 23: Around this and a lot of nerves running around with
Speaker 23: a lot of jargon who probably aren't doing the world
Speaker 23: a favor by not trying to focus on this from
Speaker 23: a business perspective, in a perspective, which is what I'm
Speaker 23: always trying to get people to focus on forget all
Speaker 23: the technology.
Speaker 12: Forget the nurdery, think about your business and think about
Speaker 12: the risk. You know, how much downtime can you withstand?
Speaker 12: But because there is often not a focus on that,
Speaker 12: businesses are not taking it seriously and as a result
Speaker 12: making themselves easy targets.
Speaker 1: Well, let me let me ask you, David, with all
Speaker 1: considering all this stuff, how how valid is your cyber
Speaker 1: security system anymore? I mean, if I'm going to get
Speaker 1: one of these things for my whatever, my desktop or
Speaker 1: my laptop or whatever the case might be, is it
Speaker 1: inevitable that I'm going to get hacked?
Speaker 12: I wouldn't say it's inevitable, but it's it's very highly likely,
Speaker 12: especially if you don't believe that's ever going to happen
Speaker 12: to you, Right, And Yeah, the focus has shifted over
Speaker 12: time because I want to be really clear, guys. If
Speaker 12: it's let's say China or Russia decides that you have
Speaker 12: something they want, they're probably eventually going to get it
Speaker 12: because they have unlimited time and limited resources.
Speaker 24: You know.
Speaker 12: The FBI had recently said in the past they believe
Speaker 12: that China had a fifty to one advantage of attackers
Speaker 12: versus defenders here in the United States. You guys may
Speaker 12: have seen the stories here. North Korea are also part
Speaker 12: of that access of evil, and the FBI has talked
Speaker 12: about this. Anyone that's listening to this can they'll confirm
Speaker 12: everything I'm saying here just by business apps website.
Speaker 5: Searched on this stuff.
Speaker 12: North Korea is raising enormous amounts of money to us
Speaker 12: to run their government through cyber attacks, including having North
Speaker 12: Koreans pretend to be legitimate workers, get hired, get inside
Speaker 12: a company, and then steal stuff. You know, remote work
Speaker 12: is a big thing, right, everybody works remotely. Now you
Speaker 12: need a programmer, you hire a person that's remote. I
Speaker 12: think we talked about this, guys. You may recall there
Speaker 12: was a guy in Nashville who basically set up a
Speaker 12: server farm and had these remote hackers remoting into his
Speaker 12: servers in Nashville, so they appeared to be in America
Speaker 12: and then working for companies where they were stealing stuff,
Speaker 12: dealing money, dealing trade secrets, et cetera. So you know,
Speaker 12: there's nothing you can do to be completely impervious to
Speaker 12: this stuff, and anyone that tells you otherwise sort of
Speaker 12: getting off the grid and going like Ted Kazinski, it's
Speaker 12: not real. But what you can do is take what
Speaker 12: we nerds like to call a defense and depth approach,
Speaker 12: multiple layers. So you're trying to shield yourself, your employees,
Speaker 12: your organization, your family from as much of it as possible,
Speaker 12: trying to keep as much of the bad stuff out
Speaker 12: as possible, trying to train folks so they know what
Speaker 12: to look for, so they have awareness, they're more skeptical,
Speaker 12: they're less likely to click on the bad thing, and
Speaker 12: then ultimately build systems that are resilient so that in
Speaker 12: the event there is a successful attack, you can recover
Speaker 12: from it quickly, minimal downtime, don't need to pay a ransom.
Speaker 12: Doesn't mean there won't be consequences, like they'll leak your
Speaker 12: sensitive data baxtold or whatever. But you know a lot
Speaker 12: of companies that there's another company in the UK I
Speaker 12: can't roughly talk about this or not one hundred and
Speaker 12: fifty eight year old company because of bad passwords, bad
Speaker 12: guys get in hit it with ransomware, they're out of business.
Speaker 12: That seven hundred people lost their job. Well document easy
Speaker 12: to look up, so you know if you had the
Speaker 12: resilient piece. Right, they defeated your systems. If you had
Speaker 12: the resiliency piece in place, ideally you just wipe those systems.
Speaker 12: You're back online in a minimal amount of time. At
Speaker 12: least you're still in business. Right, You're not gone as
Speaker 12: a result, and all of these things are very doable. Again,
Speaker 12: a lot of it though. You need to focus on
Speaker 12: risk and you know, are you spending your money on
Speaker 12: the right things in the right places, and what's your
Speaker 12: risk tolerance? Guys, I've had guys tell me, yeah, I
Speaker 12: don't care about that. I just you know, if I
Speaker 12: got hit with a cyber attack, I'd just go out
Speaker 12: and buy all new computers and start over. Okay, if
Speaker 12: that works for your business, and you've considered what that
Speaker 12: would look like in terms of downtime and impact on
Speaker 12: your customers, Okay, I don't think most people don't have
Speaker 12: thought to what a really serious attack might do and
Speaker 12: how they might not.
Speaker 5: Recover from it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not a good look when you just start
Speaker 1: shutting everything down. Uh, with the with that Dave had
Speaker 1: or we will let you go, buddy. It is always
Speaker 1: our pleasure, Thank you so much.
Speaker 12: My pleasure. You guys have a good one.
Speaker 1: And there he uh there he goes back down into
Speaker 1: his bunker. And we didn't even get into talking about
Speaker 1: the new color toilet that has a camera in it
Speaker 1: that analyzes the contents of your body. That's do you want?
Speaker 2: Do you excuse me?
Speaker 1: Do you want that? I don't think I want an
Speaker 1: instant update on what's going on inside me every time
Speaker 1: I go to the bathroom. Right, it's like, uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: it just give you a readout what happens.
Speaker 3: Man to ask you Dave about that one next time,
Speaker 3: because that sounds like, uh, that's something I told me.
Speaker 3: He's up in arms about the coffee maker. That's let's you,
Speaker 3: let's right, yeah, let alone the camera that's looking right,
Speaker 3: that's good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And what's coming.
Speaker 1: Out of Yeah, I don't want to know with the
Speaker 1: I have a pretty good idea, but I don't really
Speaker 1: want to know with that. We check in with traffic
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Speaker 7: minute delay southbound seventy five on Reagan Highway to Norwood.
Speaker 7: Lateral traffic is heavy from Cooper. It's about a five
Speaker 7: minute trip through the area, and we do have police activity.
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Speaker 7: now the ramp shutdown. As we just got an update
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Speaker 14: win Rocky today. So the trade deadline has passed, Jase.
Speaker 3: It indeed has, and it's pretty pretty much status quo
Speaker 3: since same angles. So for the fact that, as you
Speaker 3: heard there on our newscast Logan Wilson, veteran linebacker traded
Speaker 3: earlier today to the Dallas Cowboys for a in exchange
Speaker 3: for a seventh round draft pick next year, which is
Speaker 3: kind of like you basically just got his salary off
Speaker 3: your books is essentially I was going to say the
Speaker 3: salary move right, because let's be honest, this is a
Speaker 3: team that Now, there are some teams that you know,
Speaker 3: you think, oh yeah, they can find diamonds in the
Speaker 3: rough in the six and seventh rounds. The Cincinnati Bengals
Speaker 3: are not one of those teams.
Speaker 1: Correct, But it just goes to it just goes without
Speaker 1: saying then that Trey Hendrickson is not going anywhere.
Speaker 3: He remains a Bengal on the in the last year
Speaker 3: of his contract. And the Bengals, not surprisingly this is
Speaker 3: they don't change much and they've never been a team
Speaker 3: that tears things down or or ads pieces. You know,
Speaker 3: the the Joe Flacco trade was pretty pretty miraculous for
Speaker 3: their standards a month ago, but you know, this is
Speaker 3: a standard for how they've operated from really their entire existence.
Speaker 3: Is that, you know, the New York Jets basically said
Speaker 3: we're in rebuild mode. They traded a bunch of defensive
Speaker 3: players as well, Sauce Gardner over to Indianapolis. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 3: that's a guy who's it's not that not that old.
Speaker 3: But they just basically said, all right, we're going into
Speaker 3: rebuild mode. That's really what the Bengals need to be
Speaker 3: doing with their defense. But they're in a really bad
Speaker 3: spot because you've got a incredible offense.
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean supposedly going to be coming back at
Speaker 3: the Larry least next season fully healthy, you would think.
Speaker 3: And so they're in a really tough position because this
Speaker 3: is not an overnight fix or a one season fix
Speaker 3: for that defense.
Speaker 1: Coming up, we are going to be talking to old
Speaker 1: buddy Mark Amazon about this very thing, Mark with a
Speaker 1: C Amazon and what goes on, what's going on with
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Speaker 14: Cincinnati city leadership being decided tonight's with the four to
Speaker 14: thirty report. I'm Jack Crumbley breaking now.
Speaker 17: What we're going to see at the end of the day,
Speaker 17: I believe, is a statement that people are not happy
Speaker 17: with the current setup of city Hall.
Speaker 16: We're optimistic for a good night and like I said,
Speaker 16: really proud of this council and the record of achievement.
Speaker 14: Positive statements from both sides, Republican Corey Bowman and incumbent
Speaker 14: Democrat aftab pureval in the race for Cincinnati Mayor, one
Speaker 14: of the few big races on the ballot this election Day,
Speaker 14: twenty twenty five. All nine seats on Cincinnati City Council
Speaker 14: are open as well, with more than two dozen people
Speaker 14: running for them. Polls in Ohio or open until seven thirty.
Speaker 14: We did get word about an issue in Butler County.
Speaker 14: The Board of Elections says there was an incident at
Speaker 14: the Riley Township Community Center polling location. A candidate currently
Speaker 14: running for office was placed as a precinct election official
Speaker 14: at the polling location in his precinct, as he's done
Speaker 14: for the last several years before he became a candidate.
Speaker 14: Him being an official in his own precinct and as
Speaker 14: a candidate is not allowed under Ohio law. That person
Speaker 14: in question was not wearing any campaign attire and left
Speaker 14: the location without incident. Today to have some incidents going
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Speaker 14: Took a call in the newsroom about that crash northbound
Speaker 14: seventy five near forty two in Florence, saying potentially one
Speaker 14: vehicle went off the road in that collision. We are
Speaker 14: also seeing a pretty big backup on southbound Madison Pike
Speaker 14: as you approach two seventy five. You're backed up before
Speaker 14: you get to the ramps, and you stay backed up
Speaker 14: once you get south of there. There is road work
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Speaker 14: That is White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt speaking today
Speaker 14: as the US Supreme Court will take up the case
Speaker 14: of President Trump's tariffs tomorrow. It's over whether or not
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Speaker 14: The Constitution says it's Congress's responsibility, but lawmakers over the
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Speaker 14: especially when it comes to national security. The government, though,
Speaker 14: remains shut down, now tying the longest ever record thirty
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Speaker 14: Two federal courts have ordered the White House to use
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Speaker 14: for tens of millions of Americans. And even though President
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Speaker 21: trading linebacker Logan Wilson of the Dallas Cowboys today for
Speaker 21: a seventh round draft pick.
Speaker 7: Here's Evan McPherson.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough to see see him go, but that's
Speaker 2: part of the NFL.
Speaker 21: Jess Corner and former UC standout Sauce Gardners headed to
Speaker 21: the Indianapolis colt for two first round draft picks. College
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Speaker 14: We are past that four o'clock NFL trade deadline. That
Speaker 14: trade you heard about from Sega about Logan Wilson is
Speaker 14: the extent of the activity for the Bengals today. I'm
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Speaker 1: Back with Eddie and Jason Williams in for Rocky.
Speaker 3: Today.
Speaker 1: Rock is back on Thursday. I do believe he's in Toledo.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if that game's Deny or that's tomorrow, Yes, tomorrow. Well, Jace,
Speaker 1: we've been A lot has been said about the Bengals
Speaker 1: in the game the other day. I don't know what
Speaker 1: else there is to say, but damn it, we're going
Speaker 1: to say it. We have our guest right here, our
Speaker 1: old buddy love this guy, guy who's been on these
Speaker 1: airwaves many many times. He is our good friend. Mark Amazon,
Speaker 1: and Mark, you send me U. When I put out
Speaker 1: the tenerary today, I said, Mark Amazon, disgruntled Bengals fan.
Speaker 1: And I can vouch for that. Yes he did say that,
Speaker 1: And uh but dude, what you said? You got a
Speaker 1: lot on your chest and let's get it off.
Speaker 2: What Mark your.
Speaker 1: Thoughts, because I mean, I know, I buddy of mine's
Speaker 1: been years long season ticket holder and he's beside himself
Speaker 1: right now. Man, he's boiling.
Speaker 24: Well.
Speaker 5: Disgruntled season ticket holder is like one of the same, right,
Speaker 5: I mean, it's Bengals fan and disgruntled go hand in hand.
Speaker 5: It's it is. It reminds me of the late eighties,
Speaker 5: right when we thought but we got Boomer and Tim
Speaker 5: McGee and Eddie Brown and these guys are and this
Speaker 5: team is set to do this for a while. But
Speaker 5: I think it's about to get really really bad.
Speaker 12: Guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you on that mark with the c Amazon,
Speaker 3: I think that this team is heading for another dark
Speaker 3: period and in its history. And I don't mean that
Speaker 3: a decade or it just seems everything that's there's some
Speaker 3: nineteen nineties vibes and esque things that are happening right now.
Speaker 3: And when you really dig into it, I don't even
Speaker 3: think you really need to dig that deep this defense
Speaker 3: that it is. The problems are so deep and are
Speaker 3: not something that's going to be fixed. Knowing how this
Speaker 3: franchise operates in one off season, maybe in two off seasons,
Speaker 3: maybe in three off seasons. So when you look at
Speaker 3: how this team drafts, how this team has now got
Speaker 3: what forty some percent of its money tied up or
Speaker 3: this year's payroll tied up in what three or four players,
Speaker 3: and you know, put so much money on the offensive side, Like,
Speaker 3: how are you going to fix this defense. And we
Speaker 3: all we've seen enough of a sample size now, Mark
Speaker 3: to know you can't outscore teams and make think that
Speaker 3: that's a sustainable plan for making the playoffs, let alone
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl.
Speaker 5: Yeah, ja Z, you're absolutely right. So think about this
Speaker 5: for a second. You're saying two or three years, that's
Speaker 5: if you get the draft, right, Okay, that's if you
Speaker 5: don't draft Miles Murphy, if you don't draft Shamar Stewart,
Speaker 5: if you don't draft Chris Jenkiins, if you don't draft
Speaker 5: McKinley Jackson, who by the way, during the draft, they
Speaker 5: with a sixth round pick and the Bengals took in
Speaker 5: the third round. But I'm going to tell you something,
Speaker 5: and this is kind of you know, inside baseball, so
Speaker 5: to speak, But you guys know this, Jason, I know
Speaker 5: you know this. The game changed fundamentally in a huge
Speaker 5: way a couple of years ago. The Bengals have always
Speaker 5: been behind the times and behind the curve, but now
Speaker 5: we're in the nil era, which means these guys are
Speaker 5: drafted haven't already made million dollars. So let's look at
Speaker 5: Shamar Stewart. Shamar Steart made about four million dollars at
Speaker 5: Texas A and M. So you know, this is not
Speaker 5: the NFL where in the early eighties the Bengals could
Speaker 5: take Ricky Hunley and say take it or leave it.
Speaker 5: You know, it's not like with Alfred Williams in the
Speaker 5: nineties where they could force you to play. Shamar Steuart
Speaker 5: comes in, he's made four million dollars. Okay, he get
Speaker 5: the guaranteed contract nineteen million dollars ten point four up front.
Speaker 5: So as of right now, Shamar stored has made about
Speaker 5: fifteen million dollars. When he's done with this four year deal,
Speaker 5: assuming the Bengals don't exercise the fifth year, he's going
Speaker 5: to have made twenty three million dollars. You know that
Speaker 5: means you screw with him in the contract negotiations, right,
Speaker 5: and you start with two strikes against you. That's why
Speaker 5: Samar Stewart at a press conference after a game can
Speaker 5: laugh and say, yeah, we'll catch you guys on Monday.
Speaker 5: He doesn't care. He doesn't care. And it's such a
Speaker 5: bad way of doing business because you start these relationships
Speaker 5: in you know you're behind the eight ball from the
Speaker 5: very beginning, and that's going to work against the Bengals.
Speaker 5: I think these guys don't need a second contract anymore. Guys,
Speaker 5: they can live on college money and first round, four
Speaker 5: or five year money. They don't need a second deal.
Speaker 2: True.
Speaker 1: And Mark, let me, we're talking to Mark Amazon and
Speaker 1: people keep talking about the window of opportunity for the Bengals.
Speaker 1: The window is open, is the window? Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: But how long does it take before your your Burrows
Speaker 1: and your Chases and your Higgins get frustrated by this
Speaker 1: spinning their tires? Man, sooner or later, it's just got
Speaker 1: to frustrate the hell.
Speaker 2: Out of these guys.
Speaker 5: Well, you know this is starting. Remember you guys have
Speaker 5: been here for a long time. And so you remember
Speaker 5: where were you guys February tenth, two thousand. Remember that day?
Speaker 6: That was the day.
Speaker 5: Ken Griffy Jr. Came to time, right, and it was
Speaker 5: it was a holiday, man, But the Red told came
Speaker 5: Griffy Jr. We're gonna get some pictures, right, And they
Speaker 5: never got the pictures and things soured really quickly. And
Speaker 5: I got to think it's a similar deal with Burrow. Hey,
Speaker 5: we're gonna get your team, We're gonna get to Chase,
Speaker 5: We're gonna get a workable defense. The way this thing
Speaker 5: is headed, this is going to become Carson Palmer two
Speaker 5: point zero, where Burrow's gonna get tired of wasting year
Speaker 5: after year nine and seven, throw for five thousand yards,
Speaker 5: score thirty eight points and lose games. I'm gonna say
Speaker 5: something and people are going to think I'm the biggest
Speaker 5: idiot in the world. And you can't do it right
Speaker 5: now without his permission, I would think about trading Joe Burrow.
Speaker 5: Wowing about that, think about.
Speaker 1: It, talk about starting over.
Speaker 2: That would do it.
Speaker 5: Well, he's got a full note trade cause first off,
Speaker 5: but he's gonna make a hundred million dollars the next
Speaker 5: two years, right, that's his baits and the pro rated
Speaker 5: signing bonus. That's one hundred million dollars. Do you know
Speaker 5: what one hundred million dollars buys you defensively in the
Speaker 5: free agent market. I mean, you could go into last
Speaker 5: year and take the top three guys with the Joe
Speaker 5: Burrow money, and look, I love Joe Burrow. There's nothing
Speaker 5: against Joe Burrow. He is phenomenal. We're scoring thirty eight
Speaker 5: points with Joe Flacco who's forty and can't raise his arm.
Speaker 5: I mean, Jamar Chase is so good to me, He
Speaker 5: is so far away the best receiver in football. He
Speaker 5: made Jake Browning look good two years ago. He's making
Speaker 5: Jake Joe Flacco look elite. Maybe with a decent quarterback
Speaker 5: and Higgins and Chase and some defenders with the Joe
Speaker 5: Burrow money, could that look better.
Speaker 12: Him in here?
Speaker 3: Mark, Because I'm I'm of the mind that I think
Speaker 3: you're You're now in that territory of there's been he's
Speaker 3: been hurt, he's injury prone. I think we can call
Speaker 3: him that now we're at that point. And I also
Speaker 3: just wonder, and you and again, this is just what
Speaker 3: I wonder. I'm wondering and out loud with you guys,
Speaker 3: that is he ever going to be the same because
Speaker 3: at some point one of these injuries, if another injury happens,
Speaker 3: or maybe it's the next one or the one after that,
Speaker 3: he's not going to be the same. At some point
Speaker 3: after one of these injuries. Who knows which one it is?
Speaker 2: Is it this one?
Speaker 3: This is what is now fourth major injury in his career,
Speaker 3: what his forced surgery right in his career? I guess
Speaker 3: you count the pendix being one of them. And this
Speaker 3: is what is fifth injury with the calf at some
Speaker 3: point here. Yeah, you wonder if Joe Burrow is going
Speaker 3: to be Joe Burrow as we know him, even in
Speaker 3: a Bengals uniform or whatever uniform he's in.
Speaker 5: That's a that's a very I mean, look, this is
Speaker 5: again I mentioned this to my son the other day,
Speaker 5: like you kidding me. I mean, you know this is
Speaker 5: not the way the NFL works, right, You get a
Speaker 5: quarterback and you ride that quarterback. But the secret sauce
Speaker 5: to all of it is when you get a quarterback
Speaker 5: in his rookie deal in his first five years. That
Speaker 5: was the beauty of the Bengals Super Bowl run. As
Speaker 5: they were paying you know, restricted money to Joe Burrow
Speaker 5: and they had that money and at the time they
Speaker 5: had the Awoozia's and the guys they brought in, the
Speaker 5: Von Bells and the Mike Hiltons and guys like that.
Speaker 5: I mean, this defense is so incredibly bad, and I
Speaker 5: feel like America is finally getting to see it that
Speaker 5: Colston Lovelin play with his joke guys. I mean, you know,
Speaker 5: Logan Wilson got created today. I look is Logan Wilson
Speaker 5: as good as he was three or four years ago. No, right,
Speaker 5: there's no doubt about it. But he's a pro like
Speaker 5: you know, he stands in there and plays the game.
Speaker 5: I mean, these guys made two different business decisions not
Speaker 5: to get run over. That one guy's moving away from
Speaker 5: the play, which is inexplicable. And you know, there's no consequence.
Speaker 5: There's no consequence, there's no accountability. Guys are in the
Speaker 5: locker rooms. They we'll talk to you on Monday. It's bad.
Speaker 24: Now.
Speaker 1: Let me let me ask you guys this, because of
Speaker 1: all these uh, these defensive moves they've made, these faux paus.
Speaker 1: What what is that attributable to? Just you know, the
Speaker 1: old school thinking gonna stand my ground. We're not going
Speaker 1: to overpay you, even though it wouldn't have hurt to
Speaker 1: pay a von Bell or something or a Hilton somebody
Speaker 1: like that to stay. What What the hell is the
Speaker 1: what's the thinking here?
Speaker 5: I mean from my part, I mean, look, those guys
Speaker 5: are diminished, right, I mean Von Bell, Mike Hilton were diminished.
Speaker 5: The bigger problem is you got to replace these guys,
Speaker 5: and the draft has been so awful, and I mean, look, man,
Speaker 5: have you seen Duke COVID's resume may have you if
Speaker 5: you take the time to look at Duke Covid his resume,
Speaker 5: you know at the top you have present. There's nothing
Speaker 5: under it, like this is the only job he's ever had.
Speaker 4: Man, I mean it is.
Speaker 5: You know, I hate to throw like baby out, but
Speaker 5: I mean he comes from a football family. He played
Speaker 5: a little bit. He's never done anything else. He has
Speaker 5: been here for twenty years with the smallest staff in football,
Speaker 5: and it is with after whiff after whiff the last
Speaker 5: five years. Now, there was some good, right, the Jermaine Pratt,
Speaker 5: the Logan Wilson. For a while they were crushing these
Speaker 5: third and fourth round picks. But the last four years
Speaker 5: they are absolutely desolate. And look, even if a Marius
Speaker 5: Mems becomes a great tackle, Miles Murphy's done it like
Speaker 5: there is there is not a professional pass rusher there.
Speaker 5: And the Shamar Stewart thing was botched. I mean, these
Speaker 5: guys don't need it the way they used to. You
Speaker 5: don't have the level of control that he used to have.
Speaker 5: And the Browns and Duke Tobin, they they haven't learned that.
Speaker 5: They haven't gotten that memo yet.
Speaker 3: Very very well, said Mark and along those lines to
Speaker 3: piggyback off what you said. My thoughts on this is
Speaker 3: that they are now fully exposed in that what they
Speaker 3: did in the Joe Burrow area was they decided that
Speaker 3: money wise, they were going to go all in on
Speaker 3: this offense. They are obsessed with offense.
Speaker 24: You know.
Speaker 3: They've paid big, big money to Joe Burrow, to Jamar Chase,
Speaker 3: to T Higgins, a guy that I think that they
Speaker 3: didn't need to bring back, but Joe Burrow wanted him back,
Speaker 3: so they decided to pay big money to him. They
Speaker 3: paid big money to Orlando Brown Junior. They brought in
Speaker 3: Kappa who's no longer here. They paid big money to him.
Speaker 3: They paid big money to Ted Carriss. And so when
Speaker 3: you've you know, in the NFL with the salary cap,
Speaker 3: when you've decided you're going to spend all your money
Speaker 3: on that side, well then you better dog on well
Speaker 3: draft really well on the defensive side. And they just don't.
Speaker 2: They do.
Speaker 3: They are not good at evaluating talent, and that's been
Speaker 3: very historical for them. That's not an overnight thing where
Speaker 3: they just all of a sudden, they just don't know
Speaker 3: how to evaluate talent. You know, you can get a
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow in the first round, and that's a slam dunk.
Speaker 3: He's going to be great for any team. Jamar Chase
Speaker 3: is going to be great for any team. These are
Speaker 3: generational talents, and so you were so bad for so
Speaker 3: long you fall into getting those draft picks. So you
Speaker 3: don't really get a lot of credit for drafting those guys.
Speaker 3: It's those guys that you're drafting the second and third
Speaker 3: and fourth and fifth rounds. And go look at what
Speaker 3: they've drafted here on defense over the last you know,
Speaker 3: I think somebody had a stat that they've drafted sixteen
Speaker 3: players defensive players since twenty twenty two, and not a
Speaker 3: one of those guys as a significant contributor for this
Speaker 3: football team right now. And that's it right there. That's
Speaker 3: the story that they are just not good at drafting,
Speaker 3: and they were forced by their decision to spend all
Speaker 3: this money on the offense. They forced themselves into then, okay,
Speaker 3: we're going to build the defense to the draft, and
Speaker 3: we see that that hasn't worked out. Because they have
Speaker 3: the smallest scouting staff in the NFL. You know, they'll
Speaker 3: say that Duke's not the general manager, and like the
Speaker 3: whole thing is just needs to be completely overhauled and
Speaker 3: they need to add more, and we can go on
Speaker 3: and on. Eddie's given me the we got to cut
Speaker 3: this off signals. So because Mark, we could keep going
Speaker 3: all the way up until Lance's in here in an
Speaker 3: hour and then he's gonna pick it up.
Speaker 2: He's gonna run with it for three hours, three hours.
Speaker 5: What let me let me throw one last thing out,
Speaker 5: because you know, I keep seeing people in the media
Speaker 5: and fans say, well, you know, if fans stop buying
Speaker 5: tickets to send a message that means nothing. Like the
Speaker 5: last piece about this is when this changes. And the
Speaker 5: only time this ever changes is when sweet sales go down.
Speaker 5: If the Bengals don't sell ten thousand tickets for a game,
Speaker 5: ticket prices are tickets revenues are aggregated divided by thirty
Speaker 5: two right around the league. So if the Bengals don't
Speaker 5: sell out, nobody cares about that. So they don't care.
Speaker 5: It's when they don't sell sweets that it makes the difference.
Speaker 3: But yeah, because Mark, they made the Bengals made four
Speaker 3: and thirty seven million dollars last year in the NFL
Speaker 3: revenue sharing. That's whether they're good or bad, or they
Speaker 3: don't put one fan in the stands. They made that
Speaker 3: off of the TV deal alone.
Speaker 5: Yep, that's what matters to them. I mean it is
Speaker 5: you know, you're sharing with the Dallas Cowboys, and the
Speaker 5: stuff that is uniquely yours is what matters to them.
Speaker 5: But I mean, look, you talked about this is not
Speaker 5: a new thing. I mean, Paul Brown lay on his
Speaker 5: deathbed and among his final words to Mike Brown were
Speaker 5: don't draft David Klingler. Right, how'd that work out? I mean,
Speaker 5: you know this is this is rotten from the from
Speaker 5: the top down, and it ain't changing anytime soon. Guys,
Speaker 5: Hey was fun brainstorming with you. I would love it
Speaker 5: if they would take this one of these ideas. It
Speaker 5: ain't happening.
Speaker 4: We all know it, all right.
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Speaker 1: All there's events, more about him, where he speaks, his podcast,
Speaker 1: and on and on. He is our good friend, Dean
Speaker 1: Regus Dean.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the show.
Speaker 15: Happy to be here with you guys.
Speaker 1: So Dean, I was I heard you were doing this
Speaker 1: event tomorrow night, and I did not realize that it's
Speaker 1: the super moon is back.
Speaker 15: Yes, the supermoon is back. It is the largest closest
Speaker 15: full moon of the year, and it'll be Wednesday night
Speaker 15: rising up about five twenty five pm. And I don't
Speaker 15: know if people saw the moon last night, but boy
Speaker 15: it was pretty bright. So it's getting super every day here.
Speaker 23: Now.
Speaker 15: I mean, this isn't that huge of a deal. Like,
Speaker 15: it's not like the Moon's going to be twice as
Speaker 15: big as normal. It will be noticeably larger and really bright.
Speaker 15: As it rise up higher, you're gonna see it shining
Speaker 15: your window. And so for me, I think it's just
Speaker 15: a great excuse to get people out there do some
Speaker 15: stargazing and check this thing out.
Speaker 3: What do you when you're looking at it at All Park?
Speaker 3: Are you looking at it with the naked eye, are
Speaker 3: you looking at it with telescopes? Or what all do
Speaker 3: you do out there?
Speaker 15: Yeah, the public event I'm leading is yet the top
Speaker 15: of All Park, where the pavilion is. We're have some
Speaker 15: telescopes set up up there. Watch the moon rise up there,
Speaker 15: and then it's really it's some people are posting this
Speaker 15: and I agree, it's like not the best time to
Speaker 15: look at it through a telescope. It's almost blindingly bright
Speaker 15: through a telescope, and you'll get to see quite as
Speaker 15: many of the detail, like the shadows aren't on there
Speaker 15: quite as much. Uh So we'll be looking at that
Speaker 15: with the naked eye, do a little howling, and then
Speaker 15: go to the other show that is looking through the
Speaker 15: telescope and showing people Saturn in the telescope, and that
Speaker 15: just looks dynamite.
Speaker 2: It looks like this.
Speaker 15: Cartoon little planet with a ring around it, and so
Speaker 15: we'll show people that. So yeah, we got a whole
Speaker 15: bunch of different things happening for that at All Parks.
Speaker 15: So yeah, moon rise is about five twenty five pm
Speaker 15: and then the event goes from six to eight, so
Speaker 15: you can just come on up free to the public
Speaker 15: and uh yeah, we'll check out some stars and the
Speaker 15: full moon and.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's going to be cool to be driving
Speaker 1: home tomorrow night being over to sound it. So but Dan,
Speaker 1: let me let me ask you, where's the best viewing
Speaker 1: for stargazing and stuff like that?
Speaker 2: The moon?
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously All Parks is a beautiful place, but
Speaker 1: it's there with all the city lights surrounding it. I
Speaker 1: mean as far out in the country as you can get.
Speaker 1: Is that pretty much your optimal situation?
Speaker 15: Oh yeah, I mean to see more stars. Definitely want
Speaker 15: to get away from the city lights with that moon
Speaker 15: up there, good luck, You're going to be hard pressed
Speaker 15: finding a dark skies anywhere right now for that because
Speaker 15: that moon is going to be so bright. So yeah,
Speaker 15: we usually recommend people get out to the state parks
Speaker 15: that are out of town, but for people that are
Speaker 15: in the city. The Cincinnati parks system is awesome. I
Speaker 15: mean they are most of the parks are open till
Speaker 15: ten o'clock at night, and you get some pretty good
Speaker 15: views and you can get away from a little bit
Speaker 15: of the city lights and places like Alt Park and
Speaker 15: Alms Park and Mount Echo and some other places around town.
Speaker 15: So yeah, it's you know, it's just I just like
Speaker 15: to get people to look that's the big thing, and
Speaker 15: take the time. And I got to be honest, when
Speaker 15: the supermoon thing happened, like maybe ten years ago, when
Speaker 15: I first came around, I was like, eah, this thing.
Speaker 15: I mean, I mean, so what nobody's gonna notice? And
Speaker 15: so we didn't have I did an event grudgingly, and
Speaker 15: I found it. People loved it. I mean they were
Speaker 15: just like sitting on the grass there watching the moon rise.
Speaker 15: Their phones were off, They're talking to each other. So
Speaker 15: I was a supermoon convert. I'm like, hey, yeah, people
Speaker 15: go out and do watch this. I'm all for that, Dean.
Speaker 3: For those of us who are have to read Outer
Speaker 3: Space for dummies to understand and listen to you. Of course,
Speaker 3: what you said, this only comes around what once every
Speaker 3: ten years, and why is that, and is it the
Speaker 3: Earth is closer to the Moon than a certain point here,
Speaker 3: Like what can you explain kind of the the one
Speaker 3: oh one of the supermoon.
Speaker 15: Yeah? Absolutely, I mean the Moon goes around the Earth,
Speaker 15: but it doesn't go around in like a perfect circle.
Speaker 15: So there's sometimes in its orbit where it's closer to
Speaker 15: the Earth than some times is farther from the Earth.
Speaker 15: And so it's one of those things where it matches
Speaker 15: up where it's closest to the Earth and a full
Speaker 15: moon at the same time. And there's some other things
Speaker 15: like some of the NASA websites they've been trying to
Speaker 15: milk this thing, and they make like three super moons
Speaker 15: every year, like where it's close and kind of big.
Speaker 15: I always like to opt for the one, you know,
Speaker 15: let's just do it one time. And so this one
Speaker 15: is the closest. There was a pretty good one last month,
Speaker 15: and there'll be a pretty good one next month, but
Speaker 15: this one will be technically the best. And if people
Speaker 15: really want to get nerdy about this, the moon rise
Speaker 15: is not the closest approach.
Speaker 2: Will be to the Moon.
Speaker 15: It'll be at around midnight tomorrow night, where the moon
Speaker 15: will be only two hundred and eighteen thousand miles away.
Speaker 15: That's about as close as you're gonna get to the
Speaker 15: moon ever, And because usually the moon is about two
Speaker 15: hundred and forty thousand miles away, so this is a
Speaker 15: pretty good chunk of distance, a little bit closer to us.
Speaker 3: Hey, you know, putting that perspective, I got a two
Speaker 3: hundred and forty one thousand miles on my truck, so
Speaker 3: that's not that far away.
Speaker 15: You've you've driven enough to go to the moon, not back,
Speaker 15: but to the moon at least.
Speaker 1: Yeap, So and let me get because Dean, we talked
Speaker 1: about this before. What is this going to look like?
Speaker 1: Because I think I told you this has been years
Speaker 1: and years ago.
Speaker 2: I remember.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was just the perspective that
Speaker 1: I had, but man, the it was about this time
Speaker 1: of year and the sun or the moon came up
Speaker 1: and it looked like it took up half of this
Speaker 1: horizon as it was rising. Now, I don't know what
Speaker 1: what does that do to when you get that kind
Speaker 1: of view, mean that it looked like, you know, five
Speaker 1: times the size of the moon regular.
Speaker 15: Yeah, it's really cool when you watch the moon rise.
Speaker 15: I think that's the best part the best time, because
Speaker 15: when it's lower on the horizon, it does have this
Speaker 15: like optical illusion. This makes me seem bigger in your
Speaker 15: brain than it actually is. And then when it's up
Speaker 15: higher in the sky, it takes kind of its normal
Speaker 15: size and your brain and so astronomers and scientists have
Speaker 15: been studying this phenomenon. It's called the moon illusion. And
Speaker 15: it was first thought that it's just because you have
Speaker 15: these reference points like trees and houses and that kind
Speaker 15: of stuff. And so some of the smarter eggheads were like, yeah,
Speaker 15: it's not really that, because it doesn't it's not actually bigger.
Speaker 15: It just looks bigger in our brain. And so it's
Speaker 15: a brain illusion. Our brains are fooling ourselves into thinking
Speaker 15: it's actually bigger. It's really is the same size, it
Speaker 15: just looks like it to us. And so I used
Speaker 15: to do this TV show on PBS called Stargazers if
Speaker 15: anybody remembers, that would fly through space on hoverboards and
Speaker 15: it was always on at a convenient one am. So
Speaker 15: if you didn't see it, I'm not too hurt. But
Speaker 15: I inherited that show from a guy named Jack Horkheimer.
Speaker 15: He was the guy that would come on PBS's late
Speaker 15: at night and talk about what's up in the space.
Speaker 15: And he said, the way you come bat the moon illusion,
Speaker 15: I am not joking, is you turn your back to it,
Speaker 15: look upside down, through your legs backwards at the moon
Speaker 15: upside down, and they'll turn normal size. Now I thought
Speaker 15: he was joking with me, and I thought I thought.
Speaker 15: I thought, man, okay, so he's pulling this thing, and
Speaker 15: I'm I'm not going to do it. I'm not going
Speaker 15: to do it in front of him, that's for sure.
Speaker 15: So there was one night where I had the full
Speaker 15: moon rise and nobody was around, and I did it,
Speaker 15: and I swear it worked. So I I encourage people
Speaker 15: to try this at home when nobody's looking, and who knows,
Speaker 15: maybe tomorrow night at allt Park, I'll do it too,
Speaker 15: with everybody looking.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 15: Well, we'll see how it works. But it's like one
Speaker 15: of those things. I thought, this is a joke, come on,
Speaker 15: and then I did it and actually did work.
Speaker 2: You have to there, you go, Dean. You have to
Speaker 2: be with the group tomorrow.
Speaker 24: You have to.
Speaker 2: Everybody. We're going to do some yoga moon gazing here,
Speaker 2: just for a few minutes.
Speaker 1: Take a picture and put that on a social Dude,
Speaker 1: you all get a million views.
Speaker 15: I mean, the problem is I don't know if I'll
Speaker 15: be able to get back up.
Speaker 7: That's the thing.
Speaker 15: It doesn't go down there now, but I don't know
Speaker 15: about getting back up again, so I might.
Speaker 7: Need some help.
Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead, Oh go ahead? Oh what is it
Speaker 3: forgive again? Forgive my ignorance on this? Like you go
Speaker 3: to Alt Park? Is it does it just being up
Speaker 3: on a hill even allow for a better view or
Speaker 3: is it just because that's a big gathering space.
Speaker 15: Oh yeah, yeah, anybody can see it anywhere. I'm doing
Speaker 15: it at All Parks just because I love All Park.
Speaker 15: It's and I been working with the Cincinnati Parks for
Speaker 15: a long time, and it's a great place. It's a
Speaker 15: good gathering spot of the Yeah, it really is. And
Speaker 15: it's pretty decently dark up there too, So I always
Speaker 15: go up to All Park to if I want to
Speaker 15: look at something low on the horizon, because it's got
Speaker 15: good views to the horizon. But yeah, we'll be showing
Speaker 15: people Saturn tomorrow night. That's going to be a real
Speaker 15: cool highlight. And yeah, it's almost like an excuse to
Speaker 15: get people out under the stars and then we'll show
Speaker 15: them Saturn and then that's what they're going to be like,
Speaker 15: Saturn is the real highlight.
Speaker 1: And how many telescopes would you say you have scattered
Speaker 1: about there?
Speaker 15: Good question. So far, I'm still rounding up the troops here,
Speaker 15: so I'm not sure how we're gonna end up with.
Speaker 15: But it'll be enough for everybody to see some stuff,
Speaker 15: that's for sure, all right.
Speaker 1: And what else is as far as the heavens go,
Speaker 1: that's coming up here.
Speaker 15: Well, So on Saturday people, if you want to check
Speaker 15: out actual rocks from outer space, I'm doing an event
Speaker 15: at the North Side Library Saturday at three o'clock where
Speaker 15: we're gonna have a meteorite event, meteor right displays. Some
Speaker 15: of my buddies are going to bring some of their
Speaker 15: meteorites from the asteroid belts, some Moon meteorites, some Mars meteorites,
Speaker 15: and people can see and hold and touch them and
Speaker 15: at the free event s that's at the north Side
Speaker 15: Library at three o'clock. And then for meteor shower gazers,
Speaker 15: we've got the Lioned meteor Shower coming up November seventeenth, eighteenth.
Speaker 15: That's when the peaks where you can maybe see a
Speaker 15: dozen shooting stars an hour going across the sky, and
Speaker 15: that's always a pretty good one. And you can maybe
Speaker 15: even see some earlier in the week two once the
Speaker 15: full moon gets out of the way. So yeah, those
Speaker 15: are the big events coming up, So lots to see
Speaker 15: up there.
Speaker 3: Some of your friends in the in the stargazing world,
Speaker 3: you said, have some meteorite rocks. Where would one go
Speaker 3: to get those?
Speaker 15: Oh, believe me, I got a guy for you, that's
Speaker 15: for sure. I know that's yeah. So yeah, there's legitimate
Speaker 15: meteorite dealers. How you get started in that field, I
Speaker 15: have no idea, but anyway, these are these are fellows
Speaker 15: that and the women and men that have been like
Speaker 15: in this field for a while. They they don't just
Speaker 15: like go out and collect them. Some of them do,
Speaker 15: but mostly they they deal with reputable fines, reputable falls
Speaker 15: where they have these rocks at the sell from space.
Speaker 15: Most of them are gathered in the Sahara Desert and
Speaker 15: the Antarctic continent because it's on top of the sand
Speaker 15: or on top of the snow, and so it's a
Speaker 15: little bit easier. You can just pick things up on
Speaker 15: top of whatever's on top. Fell from up above, and
Speaker 15: so yeah, people do ask me, they're like, what do
Speaker 15: you trust these guys, Like, I mean, what if what
Speaker 15: if they're just giving you like limestone from you know,
Speaker 15: from the East End or something like that. And the
Speaker 15: thing is, if they ever sell a non meteorite, they
Speaker 15: are done.
Speaker 4: That is that is, that is their reputation is on.
Speaker 15: They'll never Yeah, meteorite people don't mess with uh, don't
Speaker 15: mess with them because yeah, but I've got a small
Speaker 15: collection myself. But the ones that are coming on Saturday,
Speaker 15: they are some pretty impressive specimens and people can like
Speaker 15: hold them and they're really cool cool rocks, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: All right With that, Dean, don't pick up any bogus
Speaker 1: space rocks and people can catch you tomorrow night at
Speaker 1: the at ALLT Park.
Speaker 15: Yeah, tomorrow up at All Park will be great. Like
Speaker 15: I said that, the event goes six to eight, but
Speaker 15: move a little bit earlier at five twenty five, So
Speaker 15: come on up a little early if you like to
Speaker 15: hang out, and yeah, bring some space rocks too, why
Speaker 15: not come on up for that?
Speaker 2: All right, buddy, love it?
Speaker 1: Thanks so much.
Speaker 15: Hey, thanks guys, and keep looking up there you go.
Speaker 1: Astro Dean is dot com is his website. No, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you talk about a specialized gig, dude, go on
Speaker 1: being a meteor it's a sales guy.
Speaker 3: Well that sounds wondering, like and he said it there
Speaker 3: you can go to the Sahara doesn't And I know
Speaker 3: they're probably not just Oh, they're all over the place
Speaker 3: and you can just if you get it right, if
Speaker 3: you just travel there, you're going to find one.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they're very rare to find in those spaces.
Speaker 1: But it seems like that would be kind of a
Speaker 1: hard business. Yeah, get that's what I mean, right, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like being a moon rock guy. Where
Speaker 1: do you start? First go to the moon. It's like
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Speaker 1: but before we get out of here on Election Day, Jase.
Speaker 1: Of course, it seems like every year it gets this
Speaker 1: type of thing gets more and more prevalent. Let's talk
Speaker 1: to our good friend Don Mahallick. He is the law
Speaker 1: enforcement contributor retired senior service agent for ABC News. And Don,
Speaker 1: what's the latestest thing out of Jersey.
Speaker 12: Huh?
Speaker 24: Well, Jersey apparently has gotten a bunch of threats directed
Speaker 24: towards the polling places, and those threats have forced the
Speaker 24: polling place to be closed down for a while while
Speaker 24: the Jersey law enforcement agencies go in and actually sweep
Speaker 24: and check the places. These are legit bomb threats that
Speaker 24: are coming in which after investigation, turned out to be hoaxes.
Speaker 24: But you know what raises the issue once again about
Speaker 24: election security and election safety and the fact that we're
Speaker 24: dealing with an environ where the voter is being targeted
Speaker 24: and to move the voter in a different direction or
Speaker 24: to dissuade the voter from voting and participating in democracy.
Speaker 24: And those threats come from foreign actors or domestic actors
Speaker 24: a lot online, but also now we're seeing it in
Speaker 24: live real time with a legit, you know, old school
Speaker 24: threat of a bomb, a bomb at one of these
Speaker 24: polling locations. It's a sad status, but thankfully it seems
Speaker 24: like the people in New Jersey are handling it appropriately.
Speaker 3: Is there something in particular on the ballot in New
Speaker 3: Jersey that's very hotly contested this year? I know here
Speaker 3: in Ohio we don't have there's not a lot of
Speaker 3: hotly contested things on the ballot, but and just wondering
Speaker 3: if that is New Jersey specific thing.
Speaker 2: Going on there?
Speaker 24: To the governor's race in New Jersey is a very
Speaker 24: hot contest because it's probably closer than people think, and
Speaker 24: I think the bomb threats are a response to that.
Speaker 24: It's interesting to bomb threats coming. I think they were
Speaker 24: focused around Newark, Jersey versus some other parts of the state.
Speaker 24: That might be an indication of the where the threats
Speaker 24: are emanating from. But either way, it just interferes with
Speaker 24: the democracy. It interferes with people's voting choices, and in
Speaker 24: a case like that, it frightens voters from going to
Speaker 24: the polls and voting. So, you know, the voter is
Speaker 24: being targeted across the US. We saw it last year
Speaker 24: in twenty twenty four. We're seeing it again in this
Speaker 24: and this is a quieter election than last year.
Speaker 5: With the presidential election. So let's hope.
Speaker 24: The law enforce and agencies are responding appropriately and the
Speaker 24: voters are making smart choices when we're going to the polls.
Speaker 1: Domaholis our guest, and don let me ask you, as
Speaker 1: retired secret service how long does it take to come
Speaker 1: in sweep that and clear it with dogs and such?
Speaker 1: I assume as what they use.
Speaker 24: Yeah, it all depends on where the voting location is,
Speaker 24: if it's a small polling place or a big polling place.
Speaker 24: A lot of places they use school and they use
Speaker 24: you know, government buildings as polling places, which generally are
Speaker 24: on the smaller side. But you know, in a place
Speaker 24: like Newark, it potentially could be a larger building because
Speaker 24: of the size of the population. So it really depends
Speaker 24: on the size of the facility they're sweeping and how
Speaker 24: many you know, knine assets and search teams they.
Speaker 3: Use done to these uh you know in particular today
Speaker 3: these come in by telephone?
Speaker 2: Or do they come in by a text? Do they
Speaker 2: come in through social media? Hey?
Speaker 5: This?
Speaker 24: Uh?
Speaker 5: You know this?
Speaker 2: Certain?
Speaker 7: Do you know?
Speaker 2: How do you do you know the how they originate?
Speaker 5: I don't, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 24: In a case in New Jersey, I think I think
Speaker 24: they came in via old school phone call. Somebody called
Speaker 24: it a bomb threat and named the polling location, which
Speaker 24: hopefully will help them in tracking where the threat came from.
Speaker 24: But the bottom line is between the internet, cell phones,
Speaker 24: you know, there's multiple pathways to to issue a threat
Speaker 24: and it's a lot of work for the law enforcement
Speaker 24: agencies involved. And when these threats come in and try
Speaker 24: to try to track him down and then hopefully arrest
Speaker 24: who's responsible.
Speaker 1: And is it an immediate response on that don I
Speaker 1: would assume as soon as they get it, and they're
Speaker 1: just like, okay, clear the clear of the building. There's
Speaker 1: no you know, there's no yea, zero reason to wait
Speaker 1: around and see it.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is a.
Speaker 24: Credib Now, Now, when a bomb threat comes in they typically,
Speaker 24: you know, you want to treat every call as if
Speaker 24: it's real until you prove it's a hoax. So when
Speaker 24: these calls come in, the buildings are immediately evacuated. The
Speaker 24: laws and agencies arrive, they clear, they search the area,
Speaker 24: they clear, and once it's clear, they'll let people back
Speaker 24: into the building. These days, a lot of law enforcement
Speaker 24: agencies around the country, particularly in the bigger metropolitan cities,
Speaker 24: will tend to set up task forces around election day
Speaker 24: to monitor the polls, to monitor what's going on in
Speaker 24: the polls, and to be able to respond, as you know,
Speaker 24: as needed to the polling locations should an issue arise.
Speaker 24: So I would, I would Jersey is set especially in
Speaker 24: an area like Newark, is set up like that as well.
Speaker 3: Don you're uh, you know, you're retired senior Secret Service agent,
Speaker 3: so you know you've seen everything. Are bomb threats harder
Speaker 3: to track in today's world of technology versus when we're
Speaker 3: back when everyone used landlines and payphones or is it
Speaker 3: is it?
Speaker 2: Is it harder? Is it easier? What you know, is
Speaker 2: it completely changed the game with cell phones and uh, you.
Speaker 24: Know it's completely changed. Uh, you missed the days of
Speaker 24: the old rotary phone. It's completely changed the game with
Speaker 24: cell phones because you have that that mobility. Uh, that's
Speaker 24: that's present now with a cell phone call or even
Speaker 24: the Internet, and you us to have the issue of
Speaker 24: having to go through the Internet to find somebody. Whereas
Speaker 24: in the old days, is somebody called called from an
Speaker 24: old style rotary phone or even a push button phone,
Speaker 24: it was a direct line from that individual's home to
Speaker 24: whoever they were called. Now, because of the Internet, because
Speaker 24: a lot of calls are made digitally, we have these
Speaker 24: voice over Internet protocols where there's IP addresses involved, and
Speaker 24: you know, you can change your IP address or hydri
Speaker 24: IP address.
Speaker 4: With a VPN.
Speaker 24: So it makes it real challenging for law enforcement to
Speaker 24: backtrack in these cases. They're able to do it, and
Speaker 24: a lot of times the vendors, the phone companies are
Speaker 24: helpful in these situations, but it's still it's a lot
Speaker 24: more work and a lot harder than it probably was
Speaker 24: in the old days.
Speaker 1: All Right, with that, Don, we will let you go, buddy,
Speaker 1: thanks so much, thanks for having me.
Speaker 24: Guys appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 1: John Don Mulhullakey is a retired secret service working with
Speaker 1: ABC News and man, it just seems like, Jason, every
Speaker 1: year it gets worse and worse.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and just to think that it's not even a
Speaker 3: presidential year, and you know how much of this stuff happens,
Speaker 3: you know, in a presidential year or where it's going
Speaker 3: to keep happening because people see this like, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: and you know they're they're evil, dev evil people out.
Speaker 1: There, Jason. Uh in other news, And let's get off
Speaker 1: the political bead here for a minute and get it.
Speaker 1: Do a cute cat story.
Speaker 2: You know, you know, do you have a cat? We
Speaker 2: are not cat people.
Speaker 24: Uh.
Speaker 1: This this happened in New Hampshire.
Speaker 2: Ray Ray. The cat sounds like probably a cat that's.
Speaker 23: Like a dog.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I don't know where you get Ray Ray.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't I don't mind a cat
Speaker 2: that's like a dog, by the way, but anyway, go ahead.
Speaker 1: You're not a cat guy, No, I'm I got no
Speaker 1: problem with cats. I'm allergic to them, but I don't
Speaker 1: But anyways, Ray Ray. So they were going from a
Speaker 1: little town in Pennsylvania to Keen, New Hampshire. They're at
Speaker 1: the beginning of October. The cat, a little Ray Ray,
Speaker 1: apparently didn't want to be left behind. So, after driving
Speaker 1: about one hundred miles, Tony DiNardo, ray Ray's owner stopped
Speaker 1: the van for a bathroom break and discovered ray Ray,
Speaker 1: the eight year old cat, clinging to the car's roof.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I had a feeling you were going to
Speaker 3: have a Christmas fake care. What was the summer vas right?
Speaker 24: That was?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was Christmas vacation with whatever they had Clara
Speaker 1: whatever her name was, the dog dogs attached.
Speaker 2: To the bumper. Yeah, I thought you were adding that direction,
Speaker 2: he said. They left for a trip clinging to the roof.
Speaker 1: Said the mom, Margaret, how did the cat stay up there?
Speaker 1: And he seemed completely unfazed. The family believed that ray
Speaker 1: Ray lodged himself between the luggage you know they you know,
Speaker 1: just like the family vacation. Yeah, they had the luggage
Speaker 1: rack on the top there, so apparently old ray Ray
Speaker 1: got himself lodged in there under the suitcases and put
Speaker 1: his claws into one of the straps or something. It
Speaker 1: just went for a ride, and uh he so they
Speaker 1: stopped at a pet store, got him, got him a
Speaker 1: little food, got him a leash. So, uh, I guess
Speaker 1: one of the reasons they were going to this little
Speaker 1: town in New Hampshire. Was that they have a marathon
Speaker 1: that this guy Tony was running in. So he carried
Speaker 1: I guess they were, Yeah, he was in. It was
Speaker 1: in this blah blah blah. He uh, I guess his
Speaker 1: wife met him along the way and he carried the
Speaker 1: cat across the finish line.
Speaker 2: Oh so.
Speaker 1: Ray Ray seemed to be very happy and now she
Speaker 1: plans to write a children's book about her pet's adventures.
Speaker 3: So it's a happy ending there for Ray Ray and
Speaker 3: the family because it could.
Speaker 2: Have gone really, really bad. Well see, y Ray could
Speaker 2: have been like a bug on a windshield for someone,
Speaker 2: and well that had been bad for the other guy too.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine you're driving down the interstate, you know,
Speaker 1: you're going seventy seventy five miles an hour. Of a
Speaker 1: sudden a cat in your windie, you know, like a
Speaker 1: bug on your windshield, except as a you know, fifteen
Speaker 1: pound cat.
Speaker 3: That's gonna do a little damage to your windshield too.
Speaker 3: Thank thank, thank goodness, Ray Ray safe and had a
Speaker 3: fun trip. And I'm sure they had to spend a
Speaker 3: little extra money there on the cat carrier, and.
Speaker 1: Well I'm sure they had to take that car through
Speaker 1: a car wash up top of you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and their ugge had to have a little
Speaker 1: cat excrement attached to it in some way.
Speaker 2: She might have been coming out of both ends for Ray.
Speaker 1: Ray, as scared as he was, I could just see
Speaker 1: that cat go and tell the under holding on for
Speaker 1: his dear little cat life. Uh with that, let's get
Speaker 1: on out of here. But before we do, let's check
Speaker 1: traffic and weather.
Speaker 3: What is going on?