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Speaker 1: Jase here, it is election day. Do you miss the

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Speaker 1: old you were on the on the political beat there

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, man, I do miss it. And uh I

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Speaker 3: Adrenaline rush of being in the newsroom on election night. However,

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Speaker 3: you get that adrenaline rush a lot more in sports

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Speaker 3: on every every Sunday. Covering a Bengals game reminds me

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Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not being facetious.

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Speaker 3: That's actually we joke about in sports because it's like

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of election nights on the sports side

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Speaker 3: of things.

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Speaker 1: Well, this guy has been involved in many an election night.

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Speaker 1: He is Polly pi at UC. He is a great

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Speaker 1: friend of this show. He is professor doctorate if you will,

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Speaker 1: David Niven from the University of Cincinnati. Uh, Dave, how you.

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Speaker 4: Doing, man, I'm doing well, Addie. That's that's quite the

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Speaker 1: I can kind of sounds that we tried to build

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Speaker 1: you up to get you keep coming back, Eddie.

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Speaker 3: I missed talking to this guy, calling him up and

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Speaker 3: blowing him up about everything. But I know he's apprecive

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Speaker 3: that I'm not calling him all the time.

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Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you, besides this a stupid radio

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Speaker 1: host to bugging you all the time, David, what did

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Speaker 1: guys like Jason be bugging you all the time as well?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean I got every every everybody

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well let's talk about this election, and first off,

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Speaker 1: the local ramifications here. Do you see all the rigmar

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Speaker 1: having any effect at all? Or do the people in

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think the short answer is if this

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Speaker 6: this is the first Republican in in Bawman running for

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Speaker 6: this is this is not an easy task, and you know,

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Speaker 5: A particularly fruitful path.

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Speaker 6: And then, of course the other aspect of this is

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Speaker 6: Cincinnati has such an odd system of government. You know,

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Speaker 6: Cincinnati kind of breaks everything into into pieces, and those

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Speaker 6: the water. Certainly Mayor Piirval would have preferred not to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Professor Niven, I thought of this, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: this AFTAB is going to win if you are the

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Speaker 3: Republicans and the Charter rights. Are you sitting here kicking

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think, yes, you're kicking yourself just because

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Speaker 1: Right, we're talking to David Niven, and Dave, let's talk

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Speaker 1: What do you see happening nationwide with all this stuff?

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Speaker 6: Well, truth is, of course, it's a little silly to

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Speaker 6: You know, if we see a democratic boost, you know

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of piggybacking along those lines, all this

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 6: I mean, I do think it would be a different race.

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Speaker 6: But you know, Cuomo has done one of the most

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Speaker 5: Not everybody can pull that up.

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Speaker 6: He's done it, true, So I do think the dynamic

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Speaker 3: Like, what do you what do you make of the

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Speaker 3: I saw George will on Bill Maher last week saying

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Speaker 3: of that, is that does this give hope to the

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, it's it's been a tough century or

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Speaker 5: Give them a moment in the sun.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think the bottom line is this is

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Speaker 6: You know, for all of the tumult of the Atoms

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Speaker 6: it's nice to have a you know, a prominent mayor

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Speaker 3: As as they say, campaigning is different than governing right.

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Speaker 6: Right, and it's very different. And you know, a famous

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Speaker 6: not so easy to get a mayor who isn't terrible?

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Speaker 5: Is it New York?

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Speaker 6: And you know, it's a it's a really really challenging job.

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Speaker 6: I mean, in no joking terms, it's a challenging job.

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Speaker 6: And you know, I think the folks who've thrived in it,

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Speaker 6: It's it's it's I think, ultimately a job that reveals

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Speaker 1: All right with that, David, and we will let you go, buddy,

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much.

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Speaker 2: Great stuff.

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Speaker 5: All right, boys, it was a pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much. Thank you, David Niven Polysi you see.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, great insight to what's going on around here

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Speaker 3: Always great insight. There's a reason why we all call

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Speaker 3: him because he knows a lot about a lot and

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Speaker 1: So Jason, everybody's these days talking about we've been all

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Speaker 1: what was the what's the shrink flation? Shrink flation? Yes,

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Speaker 1: Right, same size bag, a little more air, same price, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I think everybody noticed this along the way. Get

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Speaker 3: No, And it feels like I've talked with our you

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Speaker 13: News, traffic, and weather. News Radio seven hundred.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jack Crumley breaking.

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Speaker 15: Now, what do you think about the possibility of a

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Speaker 16: It's hard to predict what's going to happen later today,

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Speaker 16: But what I'm focused on for the rest of today

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Speaker 16: is reminding folks of all of the incredible work this

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Speaker 4: We just got to keep going.

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Speaker 14: Incumbent Cincinnati Mayor f tab Pirvaal speaking today on this

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Speaker 4: All that depends on who shows up today.

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Speaker 17: Obviously, based on the numbers that we're seeing from early voting,

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Speaker 18: Corey Bowman says he'll win if enough people go to

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Speaker 18: Chili this aftern and he said there's a real chance

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Speaker 17: We're working like crazy throughout the day to make sure

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Speaker 18: From the West Side. Matt Reeves News Radio seven hundred WYLBD.

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Speaker 14: Other notable races today. It's a crowded field for Cincinnati

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Speaker 14: City Council, more than two dozen running for nine seats,

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Speaker 14: and the Lakota School District is asking voters for one

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Speaker 14: of the biggest levies in state history, looking to build

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Speaker 14: multiple new school buildings and more. Now the latest traffic

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Speaker 14: Also seeing some delays in Fairfax on US fifty that's

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Speaker 13: Now the latest forecast from the Train Heating and Cooling

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Speaker 14: Taking a look in the forecast for this afternoon. Partly cloudy,

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Speaker 14: Explaining a post on the internets.

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Speaker 19: The administration is fully complying with the court order. I

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Speaker 19: just spoke to the President about it. The recipients of

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Speaker 20: Receive this money.

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Speaker 14: The White House says SNAP benefits will be paid in

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Speaker 14: Court will hear arguments over President Trump's tariffs tomorrow. The

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Speaker 14: charges will be filed on Wall Street. Still about a

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Speaker 1: Back with Eddie and Jason Williams in for Rocky Today

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Speaker 1: and Jace. We were talking about it going into going

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Speaker 1: into the news. We've all heard a shrink flation, but

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Speaker 1: there's well now there's more flation stuff going on, and

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Speaker 1: here to discuss is is our good friend, our financial guy,

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Speaker 1: all when it comes to your finances. He is our

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Speaker 1: good friend. Bill Dendy, Bill, welcome back to the program.

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Speaker 4: Guys. It's great to be with you.

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Speaker 1: So Bill, we're talking about this stuff. And we you know,

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Speaker 1: we've all heard of the shrink flation where you know,

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Speaker 1: you used to get whatever, fifteen ounces of potato chips

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Speaker 1: and now you get thirteen ounces in the same sized

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Speaker 1: bag and that and on and on and on. But

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Speaker 1: now we have skimflation and sneak flation.

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Speaker 4: Explain well, it's kind of funny.

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Speaker 22: Companies are looking for ways to lower their calls to

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Speaker 22: production without messing up their margins, and one of the

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Speaker 22: things that they're turning to is using lower quality ingredients.

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Speaker 4: That's skimflation.

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Speaker 22: And they're like, well, gosh, we can't charge more, the

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Speaker 22: consumers will quit buying our and so we can put

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Speaker 22: less product in the package and that helps. Or instead

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Speaker 22: of using real butter, we can use something else. Or

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Speaker 22: instead of being ice cream, let's make it a frozen

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Speaker 22: dairy treat.

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Speaker 4: Instead of being.

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Speaker 22: Chicken, let's make chicken pieces or chicken like substance and

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Speaker 22: if people can't tell the difference, well, then we get

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Speaker 22: to increase the margins without increasing the prices.

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Speaker 4: And this is kind of a.

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Speaker 22: It'd be great if it really worked, but the problem

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Speaker 22: is you can taste the difference. You can tell it's

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Speaker 22: not the same product. And it's only after you take

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Speaker 22: the time to read the fine print you're like, oh

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Speaker 22: my gosh, they've changed the ingredients. The grains that they're

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Speaker 22: using are less expensive in the granola. The sugar that

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Speaker 22: they're using is now going to be the corn syrup.

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Speaker 22: The creams are no longer creams. It's a milk and

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Speaker 22: buy products and it's not the same. And so for

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Speaker 22: consumers it feels their dishonest when you become the victim

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Speaker 22: of skimflation.

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Speaker 7: Bill A.

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Speaker 3: Is there an example of a company out there who's

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Speaker 3: in the crosshairs of this very thing? And then b

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Speaker 3: are companies doing this because of you know, higher costs

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Speaker 3: of shipping they're trying to hedge here and cut off

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Speaker 3: or you know what's going on with that.

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Speaker 22: Well, for a while, it was the price of oil

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Speaker 22: and the shipping costs, and we had that backlog. But

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Speaker 22: at this point, this is more the result of the

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Speaker 22: high inflation we experienced a couple of years ago finally

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Speaker 22: to catch up with cost. You know, companies, when they

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Speaker 22: had the higher prices of their supplies, their inputs, a

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Speaker 22: lot of them didn't raise their prices. They started absorbing

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Speaker 22: some of the negative impacts of inflation, and they didn't

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Speaker 22: want to raise their prices because if they raised their prices,

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Speaker 22: they ran the risk of losing market share. And so

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Speaker 22: instead of raising the prices, they reduced the portions size,

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Speaker 22: and we got used to seeing that, and then the

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Speaker 22: next step was, well, if nobody else is raising their prices,

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Speaker 22: and that's the first thing consumer see. If we can't

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Speaker 22: lower the portion size, let's lower the cost of what

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Speaker 22: we're putting into the ingredients. And that was the skinflation.

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Speaker 22: But when you change ingredients or manufacturing processes, even when

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Speaker 22: you change packaging, it takes a while from the corporate

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Speaker 22: boardroom where the decision is made to not raise the

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Speaker 22: prices but to combat inflation to do something else, to

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Speaker 22: the time it gets to the shelves. And so I

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Speaker 22: think what we're seeing this year is a lot of

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Speaker 22: this stuff has finally just found it to the shelves

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Speaker 22: and consumers are noticing it. But it's the impact of

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Speaker 22: the inflation we all witnessed a couple of years ago

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Speaker 22: and companies choosing not to raise their prices because studies

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Speaker 22: have shown that if you raise your prices, you're four

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Speaker 22: times more likely to get a negative response from a consumer,

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Speaker 22: that is, they go someplace else, versus if you just

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Speaker 22: cut the package size or cut the cost of ingredients,

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Speaker 22: they're less like to leave you. They may be frustrated,

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Speaker 22: but they're less likely to go away. And then the

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Speaker 22: other thing that you know we talked about is sneak

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Speaker 22: place where it's not so much at the grocery store,

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Speaker 22: but when they start charging for things that used to

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Speaker 22: be free. My personal example was a trip to Vegas

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Speaker 22: a couple months ago. I was surprised with the airline

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Speaker 22: that you know, you want a seat on this plane,

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Speaker 22: Well you got you got a space, but you don't

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Speaker 22: have a seat. There is a charge for any seat

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Speaker 22: unless you want the last roll that doesn't reclimb. We

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Speaker 22: got a free seat there, but every other seat's going

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Speaker 22: to cost you. And you want to take a bag, well,

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Speaker 22: the carry ons now charge costs as well.

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Speaker 4: And these things used to be free.

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Speaker 22: And then you get to the hotel and they're like, uh, yeah,

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Speaker 22: the hotel price is this, but there's a forty dollars

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Speaker 22: a night resort fee. I'm like, well, what do you

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Speaker 22: get for the resort fee and they say, well, you

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Speaker 22: get to use our swimming pool and you get free internet.

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Speaker 22: I'm like, for forty dollars a night that should have

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Speaker 22: been disclosed somewhere because that didn't.

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Speaker 4: Used to be the case at this place.

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Speaker 22: And they're like, yeah, but everybody else is doing it.

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Speaker 22: So instead of raising the prices of the hotel, or

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Speaker 22: instead of raising the prices of the airline tickets, they

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Speaker 22: sneak in something else that used to be free at

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Speaker 22: an additional cost, and studies have shown that over several years.

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Speaker 22: The Senate report said the airlines have made about twelve

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Speaker 22: billion dollars from seat selection fees over the past five

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Speaker 22: years from twenty eighteen to twenty twenty three, So it's

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Speaker 22: replacing lost revenues that they would have had had they

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Speaker 22: raised their prices. They didn't have to raise their prices,

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Speaker 22: but they increased their revenues to offset some of their

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Speaker 22: additional costs. With this sneaky way of adding costs to

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Speaker 22: things that used to be free.

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Speaker 1: We're talking to Bill Dendy and Bill, Yeah, I was

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Speaker 1: reading a story not too long ago that it's starting

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Speaker 1: to Vegas is starting to get backlash on that because

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Speaker 1: they're most notorious for it, where yeah, you know, it

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Speaker 1: used to be able to Well that's cool. You can

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Speaker 1: get a room on the strip for you know, seventy

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Speaker 1: five dollars a night. That's great. Well, then they charge

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Speaker 1: you seventy five dollars you know, resort fee. Like you said,

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Speaker 1: they they charge you seventy bucks to park and the

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Speaker 1: buffet that used to be five ninety nine is now

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Speaker 1: seventy nine ninety nine. So yeah, they get you man,

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Speaker 1: And people are starting with that push back.

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Speaker 4: We could have had a Caribbean vacation or something. I

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Speaker 4: don't know, but.

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Speaker 22: It's gonna take a lot of consumers voting with their pocketbooks.

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Speaker 22: And I think the consumers will I think that a

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Speaker 22: lot of corporations will rethink these policies. But we we

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Speaker 22: haven't had this kind of fight with inflation for a

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Speaker 22: couple of decades, and so they have inflation come back,

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Speaker 22: and companies aside, instead of raising prices, we're gonna figure

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Speaker 22: we're gonna solve it some other way, well, I think

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Speaker 22: they're gonna find that their solutions are going skinpy on

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Speaker 22: the ingredients will cost them customers. Eventually, they'll just take

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Speaker 22: customers a while to figure out who's still offering quality.

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Speaker 4: And I think that the.

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Speaker 22: Place like Vegas who over gollogs will one day find

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Speaker 22: that they're not bringing in more tourists because of that,

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Speaker 22: and those that come back and say, here's the real deal,

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Speaker 22: even if it's eighty dollars a night, they'll actually attract

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Speaker 22: happier consumers and the markets will self adjust. But for now,

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Speaker 22: I think a lot of consumers are going to need

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Speaker 22: to be a little bit more vigilant than what we've

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Speaker 22: been in the past and be aware of what are

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Speaker 22: we actually getting when we make our purchase. Is it

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Speaker 22: the same ingredients as it used to be? Are there

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Speaker 22: any hidden fees or additional costs that are oh there,

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Speaker 22: they are right there and the fine print at the

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Speaker 22: bottom that are not shown on the front line when

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Speaker 22: they have the price shown on the cost per nde.

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Speaker 4: Or the costs for your airfare.

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Speaker 22: And I think consumers are getting more savvy, but I

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Speaker 22: think a lot of people were hit with this all

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Speaker 22: at the same time, so there is a consumer backlash,

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Speaker 22: and some consumers say, not fair. You're going to change

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Speaker 22: the ingredients. Congress should make a law. There would be

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Speaker 22: a law against that, sure enough. There might be laws

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Speaker 22: coming out real soon that say, if you're going to

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Speaker 22: change your ingredients, you have to say not the old ingredient,

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Speaker 22: or new packaging or new pricing, or not as much

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Speaker 22: as it used to be in this package. I don't

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Speaker 22: know what they're going to do, but I hate more laws.

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Speaker 22: But I do think that consumers have been caught off guard,

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Speaker 22: and it was a dangerous game that companies were deciding

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Speaker 22: to play when they decided not to just go ahead

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Speaker 22: and raise their prices and pass on the cost to

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Speaker 22: the consumer directly, but try to hide it in some

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Speaker 22: other way.

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Speaker 3: Build kind of a bigger picture of what you're all

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Speaker 3: the stuff that you're talking about here are high grocery prices,

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Speaker 3: or the grocery prices, you know, the food prices even restaurants,

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Speaker 3: whatever the price we're paying for food. And it seems

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Speaker 3: like it's been here for a while. Now are those

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Speaker 3: here to stay or the It just it's hard to

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Speaker 3: see going back now, right? Are we going to go

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Speaker 3: back to the day I don't know prior to when

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Speaker 3: it all kind of go crazy, like right right after

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Speaker 3: the pandemic, when we go back to the pre pandemic,

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Speaker 3: you know, food prices.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, I like your question because you know, a lot

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Speaker 22: of people believe that when inflation's under control, it means

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Speaker 22: that everything goes back to where it was.

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Speaker 4: But that's not what it means.

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Speaker 22: It means that price is quite increasing by the hyper

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Speaker 22: fast rate. They just increased at a slower rate, but

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Speaker 22: they generally don't go down yet. Some companies, I think

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Speaker 22: it was McDonald's, got a lot of backlash because their

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Speaker 22: meals were gotten up to fifteen dollars plus, and so

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Speaker 22: they responded back after the negative backlash by saying, okay,

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Speaker 22: here is the new five dollars meal deal, and the

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Speaker 22: five dollar meal deal came back. It wasn't the same,

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Speaker 22: it was the trimmed down versions perhaps, but they responded

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Speaker 22: positively back and regained some market share, perhaps because they

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Speaker 22: were the only ones offering the real deals.

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Speaker 4: And going back.

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Speaker 22: We see how Walmart rolled back the prices to where

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Speaker 22: they used to be, but it's rare. Generally, once you

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Speaker 22: have inflation, things we don't go back down. But the

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Speaker 22: one thing you mentioned just a few moments ago, was

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Speaker 22: it is that the high costs of transportation causing these

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Speaker 22: but not as bad as it would have been if

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Speaker 22: think that we do have some areas everything's transported, so

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Speaker 22: And then many primary ingredients of products come from oil,

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Speaker 22: and so the petroleum industry having lower costs for a

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Speaker 22: But I don't think prices are going back to where

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Speaker 1: He knows all, he sees all. Our good friend, Dave Hatter. Dave, No,

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Speaker 1: You're always sending the c stories. And one that really

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Speaker 1: caught my eye this week is the headline is Russia. Russia,

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Speaker 1: China increasingly using AI to escalate cyber attacks in the

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Speaker 1: United States. So let me I just got me to

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Speaker 1: think in this and I'm in the most simple terms

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Speaker 1: that I can think of, and I'm pretty simple. Are

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Speaker 1: we constantly being barraged with cyber attacks from all sides

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Speaker 1: every single minute of every single day.

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Speaker 12: Now, well, Eddie, I would say you're not only right,

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Speaker 12: you're underestimating. It's more like barads by cyber attacks on

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Speaker 12: all sides every millisecond of the day. You know a

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Speaker 12: lot of people who've been in this for a while

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Speaker 12: may remember all kinds of like personal firewall tools like

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Speaker 12: the alarm where you could set it up on your

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Speaker 12: personal computer and it would show you the sheer number

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Speaker 12: of outside let's say, queries or probes against your computer

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Speaker 12: and it would usually be mind blowing.

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Speaker 4: People.

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Speaker 12: I would bet you if you win and you asked

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Speaker 12: your I people there at iHeart to tell you how

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Speaker 12: often in a day is there some sort of probe

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Speaker 12: against our firewall? It would be mind boggling to you

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Speaker 12: what they would tell you. And yes, these attacks are

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Speaker 12: coming from everywhere. Now, this article from Security Week, you know,

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Speaker 12: points out some important things. I'll get back to you.

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Speaker 12: But I think the thing people often misunderstand about this is,

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Speaker 12: in many cases, this is not where some guys sitting

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Speaker 12: in this model's basement thinking, Hey, I think I'll attack

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Speaker 12: iHeart today. Now I'm not saying that doesn't happen, it does.

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Speaker 12: You know, businesses aren't targeted because they have specific information

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Speaker 12: that the hackers want to steal, you know, trade secrets,

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Speaker 12: military secrets, whatever. But a lot of this stuff is

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Speaker 12: fully automated and AI is making us worse, and they're

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Speaker 12: literally just scanning the Internet for anything that's connected they find.

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Speaker 12: This is one of the reasons why you should never

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Speaker 12: answer a call.

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Speaker 4: You don't know.

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Speaker 12: It's the same kind of thing. But you know, to

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Speaker 12: people they're just scanning and they find something connected, they

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Speaker 12: can scan it and say, okay, can I determine what

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Speaker 12: this thing is? Can I determine does it have any

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Speaker 12: known vulnerabilities because they haven't installed the software updates we

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Speaker 12: talk about all the time, and you know, don't work

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Speaker 12: backwards from there. So there's automated scanning at scale, especially

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Speaker 12: for nation state actors like China and Russia ran in

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Speaker 12: North Korea. Kind of the evil access of cybersecurity, if

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Speaker 12: you will. Yeah, it's it's continuous, it's around the cloth.

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Speaker 12: It's increasing as the speed of their systems gets faster

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Speaker 12: and can scan more. And I think that's the thing

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Speaker 12: people don't get. This isn't someone thinking today is the

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Speaker 12: day I'm going to target the local grocery store or

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Speaker 12: you know, the corner mechanic shop. They're just looking for

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Speaker 12: things that are connected to the Internet, which is increasingly everything,

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Speaker 12: and then trying to figure out how they can get

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Speaker 12: in to steal money from there, and then you know

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Speaker 12: likewise they're targeting people with fishing and fishing, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: Why, maybe it's a silly question, but hear me out, Daves.

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Speaker 3: You know, in Russia, obviously the adversaries of the US

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Speaker 3: are attacking the US. But why is the US more

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Speaker 3: prime for cyber attacks? Besides the obvious that those two

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Speaker 3: countries aren't our friends. But there are other rich nations

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Speaker 3: out there. But what makes us more vulnerable beyond the

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Speaker 3: fact that those are our adversaries? Is it because we

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Speaker 3: have a lot of money? Is because it is our

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Speaker 3: basically our our it general infrastructure not as good as

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Speaker 3: Saudi Arabia or Japan or what.

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Speaker 5: Well, that's a good.

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Speaker 12: Question, and it's certainly not exclusive to US, Jason. In fact,

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Speaker 12: I just saw a headline which I don't have the

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Speaker 12: fun of me, but apparently at least five different water

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Speaker 12: plants have recently been attacked in the UK.

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Speaker 2: You know this is happening everywhere.

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Speaker 12: You don't have to look too far. You know, the

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Speaker 12: US is a prime target because obviously you could argue

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Speaker 12: we are the sole superpower. People would argue, well, you've

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Speaker 12: got China out there that's kind of.

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Speaker 5: Reached pair with us.

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Speaker 12: Yeah maybe, Yeah, we have a lot of money. And

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Speaker 12: you know, I would argue, because I'm talking to businesses

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Speaker 12: about this all day long and trying to get people

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Speaker 12: to take it seriously, that many folks really underestimate what

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Speaker 12: the damage of a cyber attack can be to their organization,

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Speaker 12: where the business, nonprofit whatever. You know, it could be

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Speaker 12: theft of sensitive data, it could be reputational damage, it

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Speaker 12: could be expensive downtime that in some cases you don't

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Speaker 12: ever recover from. I don't know if you guys saw

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Speaker 12: the story. You know, Range Rover in the UK recently

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Speaker 12: got hit with a devastating cyber attack. Was down roughly

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Speaker 12: two months, and the numbers I've seen are in the

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Speaker 12: billions of dollars lost. People laid off from range Rover,

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Speaker 12: people laid off from range Rover suppliers. So it's certainly

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Speaker 12: not exclusive to us, you know, depending on what the

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Speaker 12: hackers are after, which in most cases, outside of these

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Speaker 12: nation state attacks like China, it's money, right, they're looking

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Speaker 12: for money. But you know, businesses can have their email

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Speaker 12: accounts taken over. Next thing, you know, fraudulent invoices go

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Speaker 12: out to the team of tens of thousands to millions

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Speaker 12: of dollars loss. So it's not just downtime, it's not

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Speaker 12: just data theft. It's outright, you know, fraud and theft

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Speaker 12: of dollars through deceit. And you know, again it's not

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Speaker 12: just us. But I think part of what makes us

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Speaker 12: a target is, yes, we have a lot of money,

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Speaker 12: and businesses, organizations have all shapes and sizes. Gusts do

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Speaker 12: not take this seriously enough. You know, do you have

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Speaker 12: insurance for firing your plant?

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Speaker 5: Probably?

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Speaker 12: Are you likely to have a fire? Probably not? Do

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Speaker 12: you have sprinklers, the smoke detectors and all those sorts

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Speaker 12: of things startler all on. I mean, I think people

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Speaker 12: understand the threat in the physical world, but I think

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Speaker 12: a lot of people still think I'm too small, I

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Speaker 12: don't have anything we're stealing. And as a result of that,

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Speaker 12: and frankly, because you know, there's a lot of confuse opy.

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Speaker 23: Around this and a lot of nerves running around with

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Speaker 23: a lot of jargon who probably aren't doing the world

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Speaker 23: a favor by not trying to focus on this from

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Speaker 23: a business perspective, in a perspective, which is what I'm

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Speaker 23: always trying to get people to focus on forget all

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Speaker 12: Forget the nurdery, think about your business and think about

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Speaker 12: the risk. You know, how much downtime can you withstand?

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Speaker 12: But because there is often not a focus on that,

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Speaker 12: businesses are not taking it seriously and as a result

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Speaker 12: making themselves easy targets.

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Speaker 1: Well, let me let me ask you, David, with all

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Speaker 1: considering all this stuff, how how valid is your cyber

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Speaker 1: security system anymore? I mean, if I'm going to get

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Speaker 1: one of these things for my whatever, my desktop or

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Speaker 1: my laptop or whatever the case might be, is it

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Speaker 1: inevitable that I'm going to get hacked?

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Speaker 12: I wouldn't say it's inevitable, but it's it's very highly likely,

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Speaker 12: especially if you don't believe that's ever going to happen

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Speaker 12: to you, Right, And Yeah, the focus has shifted over

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Speaker 12: time because I want to be really clear, guys. If

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Speaker 12: it's let's say China or Russia decides that you have

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Speaker 12: something they want, they're probably eventually going to get it

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Speaker 12: because they have unlimited time and limited resources.

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Speaker 24: You know.

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Speaker 12: The FBI had recently said in the past they believe

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Speaker 12: that China had a fifty to one advantage of attackers

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Speaker 12: versus defenders here in the United States. You guys may

872
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 12: have seen the stories here. North Korea are also part

873
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 12: of that access of evil, and the FBI has talked

874
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 12: about this. Anyone that's listening to this can they'll confirm

875
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 12: everything I'm saying here just by business apps website.

876
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 5: Searched on this stuff.

877
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 12: North Korea is raising enormous amounts of money to us

878
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 12: to run their government through cyber attacks, including having North

879
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 12: Koreans pretend to be legitimate workers, get hired, get inside

880
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 12: a company, and then steal stuff. You know, remote work

881
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 12: is a big thing, right, everybody works remotely. Now you

882
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 12: need a programmer, you hire a person that's remote. I

883
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 12: think we talked about this, guys. You may recall there

884
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 12: was a guy in Nashville who basically set up a

885
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 12: server farm and had these remote hackers remoting into his

886
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 12: servers in Nashville, so they appeared to be in America

887
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 12: and then working for companies where they were stealing stuff,

888
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 12: dealing money, dealing trade secrets, et cetera. So you know,

889
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 12: there's nothing you can do to be completely impervious to

890
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 12: this stuff, and anyone that tells you otherwise sort of

891
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 12: getting off the grid and going like Ted Kazinski, it's

892
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 12: not real. But what you can do is take what

893
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 12: we nerds like to call a defense and depth approach,

894
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 12: multiple layers. So you're trying to shield yourself, your employees,

895
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 12: your organization, your family from as much of it as possible,

896
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 12: trying to keep as much of the bad stuff out

897
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 12: as possible, trying to train folks so they know what

898
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 12: to look for, so they have awareness, they're more skeptical,

899
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 12: they're less likely to click on the bad thing, and

900
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 12: then ultimately build systems that are resilient so that in

901
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 12: the event there is a successful attack, you can recover

902
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 12: from it quickly, minimal downtime, don't need to pay a ransom.

903
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 12: Doesn't mean there won't be consequences, like they'll leak your

904
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 12: sensitive data baxtold or whatever. But you know a lot

905
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 12: of companies that there's another company in the UK I

906
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 12: can't roughly talk about this or not one hundred and

907
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 12: fifty eight year old company because of bad passwords, bad

908
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 12: guys get in hit it with ransomware, they're out of business.

909
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 12: That seven hundred people lost their job. Well document easy

910
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 12: to look up, so you know if you had the

911
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 12: resilient piece. Right, they defeated your systems. If you had

912
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 12: the resiliency piece in place, ideally you just wipe those systems.

913
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 12: You're back online in a minimal amount of time. At

914
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 12: least you're still in business. Right, You're not gone as

915
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 12: a result, and all of these things are very doable. Again,

916
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 12: a lot of it though. You need to focus on

917
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 12: risk and you know, are you spending your money on

918
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 12: the right things in the right places, and what's your

919
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 12: risk tolerance? Guys, I've had guys tell me, yeah, I

920
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 12: don't care about that. I just you know, if I

921
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 12: got hit with a cyber attack, I'd just go out

922
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 12: and buy all new computers and start over. Okay, if

923
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 12: that works for your business, and you've considered what that

924
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 12: would look like in terms of downtime and impact on

925
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 12: your customers, Okay, I don't think most people don't have

926
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Speaker 12: thought to what a really serious attack might do and

927
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Speaker 12: how they might not.

928
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Speaker 5: Recover from it.

929
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not a good look when you just start

930
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 1: shutting everything down. Uh, with the with that Dave had

931
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Speaker 1: or we will let you go, buddy. It is always

932
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: our pleasure, Thank you so much.

933
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Speaker 12: My pleasure. You guys have a good one.

934
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Speaker 1: And there he uh there he goes back down into

935
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: his bunker. And we didn't even get into talking about

936
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Speaker 1: the new color toilet that has a camera in it

937
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: that analyzes the contents of your body. That's do you want?

938
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Speaker 2: Do you excuse me?

939
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: Do you want that? I don't think I want an

940
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: instant update on what's going on inside me every time

941
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 1: I go to the bathroom. Right, it's like, uh, yeah,

942
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: it just give you a readout what happens.

943
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 3: Man to ask you Dave about that one next time,

944
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 3: because that sounds like, uh, that's something I told me.

945
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 3: He's up in arms about the coffee maker. That's let's you,

946
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 3: let's right, yeah, let alone the camera that's looking right,

947
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 3: that's good.

948
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, And what's coming.

949
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 1: Out of Yeah, I don't want to know with the

950
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: I have a pretty good idea, but I don't really

951
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: want to know with that. We check in with traffic

952
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: and weather, what is going on going on.

953
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 7: From the UC Health Traffic Center. The Lung Cancer Rapid

954
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 7: Access Program at the UC Cancer Center is built to

955
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 7: give you a care plan fast meet with a specialist

956
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 7: in two days called five win three five feet five

957
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 7: U see cee see, And traffic is sewing. Asha, make

958
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 7: your way on seventy five northbound Mitchell to Pattican southbound

959
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 7: Western Avenue to the Prince Bridge seventy one northbound after

960
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 7: Ridge the crisher has cleared, it's still about a five

961
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 7: minute delay southbound seventy five on Reagan Highway to Norwood.

962
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 7: Lateral traffic is heavy from Cooper. It's about a five

963
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Speaker 7: minute trip through the area, and we do have police activity.

964
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 7: The right lane blocked in Kentucky's seventy five north bound

965
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Speaker 7: at US forty two, So plan on DeLay's here and

966
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 7: that's due to an accident down the ramp that has

967
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,479
Speaker 7: now the ramp shutdown. As we just got an update

968
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Speaker 7: on that as well. Seventy five, I make that seventy one.

969
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 7: He is swing MLK to seventy five by a five

970
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Speaker 7: minute trip. I'm Rix Shrampany. He's Radio seven hundred WLW.

971
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Speaker 1: The forecast from the seven hundred WLW Weather Center for

972
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Speaker 1: tonight partly cloudy, the little forty seven for tomorrow partly

973
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Speaker 1: cloudy and seventy It is sixty three Now News Radio

974
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Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW.

975
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Speaker 2: All right, mister Pennay, I'm going to show you some

976
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 2: images and you tell me, what do you see.

977
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 18: Looks like a butterfly listening to Scott's Loan?

978
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 2: Show in this one, I see a rocket ship? A

979
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:43,439
Speaker 2: rocket ship?

980
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 18: Yeah, last enough for the planet Sloan meer see in

981
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 18: this one that looks like a fish swimming in a

982
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 18: mountain pond.

983
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Speaker 2: Very good?

984
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 25: Yeah, but the fish is angry because he's not listening

985
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 25: to Scott Sloan.

986
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: Scott's Loan, please listen responsibly.

987
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 18: Join me Scott Sloan tomorrow morning at nine o'clock on

988
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 18: seven hundred WLW might.

989
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 2: Be best rush and it's got some strong meditations.

990
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Speaker 14: This report is sponsored by All State. I wish you

991
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Speaker 14: could save on home insurance. With All State, you could

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Speaker 14: easily save and get quality protection. Yep, it's a win

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Speaker 14: win Rocky today. So the trade deadline has passed, Jase.

994
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 3: It indeed has, and it's pretty pretty much status quo

995
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 3: since same angles. So for the fact that, as you

996
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:31,320
Speaker 3: heard there on our newscast Logan Wilson, veteran linebacker traded

997
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 3: earlier today to the Dallas Cowboys for a in exchange

998
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 3: for a seventh round draft pick next year, which is

999
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 3: kind of like you basically just got his salary off

1000
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 3: your books is essentially I was going to say the

1001
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 3: salary move right, because let's be honest, this is a

1002
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 3: team that Now, there are some teams that you know,

1003
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 3: you think, oh yeah, they can find diamonds in the

1004
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 3: rough in the six and seventh rounds. The Cincinnati Bengals

1005
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 3: are not one of those teams.

1006
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 1: Correct, But it just goes to it just goes without

1007
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 1: saying then that Trey Hendrickson is not going anywhere.

1008
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 3: He remains a Bengal on the in the last year

1009
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 3: of his contract. And the Bengals, not surprisingly this is

1010
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 3: they don't change much and they've never been a team

1011
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 3: that tears things down or or ads pieces. You know,

1012
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 3: the the Joe Flacco trade was pretty pretty miraculous for

1013
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 3: their standards a month ago, but you know, this is

1014
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 3: a standard for how they've operated from really their entire existence.

1015
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 3: Is that, you know, the New York Jets basically said

1016
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 3: we're in rebuild mode. They traded a bunch of defensive

1017
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 3: players as well, Sauce Gardner over to Indianapolis. Yeah, I mean,

1018
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 3: that's a guy who's it's not that not that old.

1019
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 3: But they just basically said, all right, we're going into

1020
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 3: rebuild mode. That's really what the Bengals need to be

1021
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 3: doing with their defense. But they're in a really bad

1022
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 3: spot because you've got a incredible offense.

1023
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:04,720
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow.

1024
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean supposedly going to be coming back at

1025
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,919
Speaker 3: the Larry least next season fully healthy, you would think.

1026
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 3: And so they're in a really tough position because this

1027
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 3: is not an overnight fix or a one season fix

1028
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 3: for that defense.

1029
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: Coming up, we are going to be talking to old

1030
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 1: buddy Mark Amazon about this very thing, Mark with a

1031
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: C Amazon and what goes on, what's going on with

1032
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: these Bengals. But that's after the news right now, News

1033
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Speaker 1: Radio seven hundred WLW.

1034
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Speaker 13: News Traffic and Weather. News Radio seven hundred WLW.

1035
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Speaker 14: Cincinnati city leadership being decided tonight's with the four to

1036
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 14: thirty report. I'm Jack Crumbley breaking now.

1037
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 17: What we're going to see at the end of the day,

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00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 17: I believe, is a statement that people are not happy

1039
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 17: with the current setup of city Hall.

1040
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,479
Speaker 16: We're optimistic for a good night and like I said,

1041
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 16: really proud of this council and the record of achievement.

1042
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,760
Speaker 14: Positive statements from both sides, Republican Corey Bowman and incumbent

1043
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 14: Democrat aftab pureval in the race for Cincinnati Mayor, one

1044
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Speaker 14: of the few big races on the ballot this election Day,

1045
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Speaker 14: twenty twenty five. All nine seats on Cincinnati City Council

1046
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Speaker 14: are open as well, with more than two dozen people

1047
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Speaker 14: running for them. Polls in Ohio or open until seven thirty.

1048
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Speaker 14: We did get word about an issue in Butler County.

1049
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 14: The Board of Elections says there was an incident at

1050
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Speaker 14: the Riley Township Community Center polling location. A candidate currently

1051
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 14: running for office was placed as a precinct election official

1052
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Speaker 14: at the polling location in his precinct, as he's done

1053
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Speaker 14: for the last several years before he became a candidate.

1054
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Speaker 14: Him being an official in his own precinct and as

1055
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Speaker 14: a candidate is not allowed under Ohio law. That person

1056
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Speaker 14: in question was not wearing any campaign attire and left

1057
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Speaker 14: the location without incident. Today to have some incidents going

1058
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 14: on the roads this Tuesday afternoon, Let's check the latest

1059
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Speaker 14: traffic and weather together.

1060
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Speaker 7: From the UC Health Traffic Center. The Lung Cancer Rapid

1061
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 7: ad Access Program at the UC Cancer Center is built

1062
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 7: to give you a care plan fast meet with a

1063
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Speaker 7: specialist in two days. Call five one, three, five eight

1064
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Speaker 7: five U sec See and on seventy five. We have

1065
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Speaker 7: traffic swing should make your way southbound Ronald Ringgan Highway

1066
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 7: to Norwood lateral through the ongoing roadwork delays. The Cooper's

1067
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Speaker 7: about a five minutes slow down accident has cleared seventy

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Speaker 7: one northbound after Ridge traffic recovering from right around Smith

1069
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Speaker 7: edwards seventy five, north bound Mitchell to Pattick and southbound

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Speaker 7: Western Avenue to the Brent Spencers stop and go, and

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Speaker 7: we're looking at you seventy five between Moss Stetler and

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Speaker 7: Lovely Madere with about a ten minute trip now. Seventy

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Speaker 7: one northbound Kenwood to Ronald Reagan Cross County Highway and

1074
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Speaker 7: southbound seventy one from Fields Eardle to two. Seventy five

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Speaker 7: is also filling in. And we do have the ramp

1076
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Speaker 7: seventy five north bound to US forty two and Kentucky

1077
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:55,839
Speaker 7: shut down due to an accident and police activity has

1078
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Speaker 7: a right lane blocked in that area. Rick SHREMP News

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Speaker 7: Radio seven hundred one.

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Speaker 14: Took a call in the newsroom about that crash northbound

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Speaker 14: seventy five near forty two in Florence, saying potentially one

1082
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Speaker 14: vehicle went off the road in that collision. We are

1083
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Speaker 14: also seeing a pretty big backup on southbound Madison Pike

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Speaker 14: as you approach two seventy five. You're backed up before

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Speaker 14: you get to the ramps, and you stay backed up

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Speaker 14: once you get south of there. There is road work

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Speaker 14: in that area.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 13: The latest forecast from the Train Heating and Cooling Weather

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Speaker 13: Center on News Radio seven hundred wl W.

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Speaker 14: Well enjoy the weather wall. It lasts partly cloudy tonight,

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Speaker 14: a low forty seven degrees. Tomorrow sunny and nice with

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Speaker 14: a high pushing seventy. Thursday's looking sunny with high in

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Speaker 14: the upper fifties, and then on Friday, rain with storms possible,

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Speaker 14: high in the mid sixties. Still looking at sunny with

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Speaker 14: temperatures in the sixties on Saturday, but by Monday next

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Speaker 14: week we're looking at highs more in the forties. Rad

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Speaker 14: Art right now showing some little bit of rain starting

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Speaker 14: to move through parts of Butler and Warren Counties. At

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Speaker 14: this hour it is sixty one degrees. News is a

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Speaker 14: service of Low t Center.

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Speaker 19: We are one hundred percent and the President and his

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Speaker 19: team's legal argument in the merits of the law in

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Speaker 19: this case, and we remain optimistic that the Supreme Court

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Speaker 19: is going to do the right thing.

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Speaker 14: That is White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt speaking today

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Speaker 14: as the US Supreme Court will take up the case

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Speaker 14: of President Trump's tariffs tomorrow. It's over whether or not

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Speaker 14: the president has the power to impose tariffs on his own.

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Speaker 14: The Constitution says it's Congress's responsibility, but lawmakers over the

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Speaker 14: years have passed on some of that power to a president,

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Speaker 14: especially when it comes to national security. The government, though,

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Speaker 14: remains shut down, now tying the longest ever record thirty

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Speaker 14: five days in a row set during the first Trump administration.

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Speaker 14: Two federal courts have ordered the White House to use

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Speaker 14: money from a contingency fund to support snap food benefits

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Speaker 14: for tens of millions of Americans. And even though President

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Speaker 14: Trump this morning posted online saying he's not going to

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Speaker 14: do that, the White House today said it is happening,

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Speaker 14: just like the agg Department told a court yesterday. On

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Speaker 14: Wall Street, today, the Dow ending down two hundred and

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Speaker 14: fifty one points. NASDAK down five thirty seven. That's two percent.

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Speaker 14: The S and P off by eighty. Take a look

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Speaker 14: at sports now, here's the second seven one hundred WLW Sport.

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Speaker 21: Here's the Bengals update, brought to you by Good Spirits

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Speaker 21: and Party ten thirteen locations in northern Kentucky. The Bengals

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00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 21: trading linebacker Logan Wilson of the Dallas Cowboys today for

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Speaker 21: a seventh round draft pick.

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Speaker 7: Here's Evan McPherson.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough to see see him go, but that's

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Speaker 2: part of the NFL.

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Speaker 21: Jess Corner and former UC standout Sauce Gardners headed to

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Speaker 21: the Indianapolis colt for two first round draft picks. College

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Speaker 21: football tonight, Miami RedHawks up against Ohio. You at seven

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Speaker 21: o'clock Red's update. The Reds have signed free agent and

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Speaker 21: former Chicago Cubs right hander Keegan Thompson Bill Edison seven

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Speaker 21: out of WLW Sport, and.

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Speaker 14: We are past that four o'clock NFL trade deadline. That

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00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 14: trade you heard about from Sega about Logan Wilson is

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Speaker 14: the extent of the activity for the Bengals today. I'm

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00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 14: Jack Crumley. Our next update at five o'clock Breaking News

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Speaker 14: Anytime News Radio seven hundred. Wlad you have three ex

1143
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 14: wives and your current trophy wife wants a life insurance

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Speaker 14: policy three times the size of the policies you had

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Speaker 14: to purchase for your previous.

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Speaker 1: Back with Eddie and Jason Williams in for Rocky.

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Speaker 3: Today.

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Speaker 1: Rock is back on Thursday. I do believe he's in Toledo.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if that game's Deny or that's tomorrow, Yes, tomorrow. Well, Jace,

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Speaker 1: we've been A lot has been said about the Bengals

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00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 1: in the game the other day. I don't know what

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00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 1: else there is to say, but damn it, we're going

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00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 1: to say it. We have our guest right here, our

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00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: old buddy love this guy, guy who's been on these

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Speaker 1: airwaves many many times. He is our good friend. Mark Amazon,

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00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 1: and Mark, you send me U. When I put out

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Speaker 1: the tenerary today, I said, Mark Amazon, disgruntled Bengals fan.

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00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: And I can vouch for that. Yes he did say that,

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Speaker 1: And uh but dude, what you said? You got a

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Speaker 1: lot on your chest and let's get it off.

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Speaker 2: What Mark your.

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00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: Thoughts, because I mean, I know, I buddy of mine's

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01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 1: been years long season ticket holder and he's beside himself

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Speaker 1: right now. Man, he's boiling.

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01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 24: Well.

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Speaker 5: Disgruntled season ticket holder is like one of the same, right,

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01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 5: I mean, it's Bengals fan and disgruntled go hand in hand.

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01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 5: It's it is. It reminds me of the late eighties,

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01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 5: right when we thought but we got Boomer and Tim

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01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 5: McGee and Eddie Brown and these guys are and this

1171
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 5: team is set to do this for a while. But

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Speaker 5: I think it's about to get really really bad.

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Speaker 12: Guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you on that mark with the c Amazon,

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01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 3: I think that this team is heading for another dark

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01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 3: period and in its history. And I don't mean that

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Speaker 3: a decade or it just seems everything that's there's some

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01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 3: nineteen nineties vibes and esque things that are happening right now.

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Speaker 3: And when you really dig into it, I don't even

1180
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 3: think you really need to dig that deep this defense

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01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 3: that it is. The problems are so deep and are

1182
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 3: not something that's going to be fixed. Knowing how this

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01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 3: franchise operates in one off season, maybe in two off seasons,

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01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 3: maybe in three off seasons. So when you look at

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01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 3: how this team drafts, how this team has now got

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01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 3: what forty some percent of its money tied up or

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01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 3: this year's payroll tied up in what three or four players,

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01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 3: and you know, put so much money on the offensive side, Like,

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Speaker 3: how are you going to fix this defense. And we

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Speaker 3: all we've seen enough of a sample size now, Mark

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01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 3: to know you can't outscore teams and make think that

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Speaker 3: that's a sustainable plan for making the playoffs, let alone

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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, ja Z, you're absolutely right. So think about this

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01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 5: for a second. You're saying two or three years, that's

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Speaker 5: if you get the draft, right, Okay, that's if you

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Speaker 5: don't draft Miles Murphy, if you don't draft Shamar Stewart,

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Speaker 5: if you don't draft Chris Jenkiins, if you don't draft

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Speaker 5: McKinley Jackson, who by the way, during the draft, they

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Speaker 5: with a sixth round pick and the Bengals took in

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Speaker 5: the third round. But I'm going to tell you something,

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Speaker 5: and this is kind of you know, inside baseball, so

1203
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 5: to speak, But you guys know this, Jason, I know

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01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 5: you know this. The game changed fundamentally in a huge

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01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 5: way a couple of years ago. The Bengals have always

1206
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 5: been behind the times and behind the curve, but now

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01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 5: we're in the nil era, which means these guys are

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Speaker 5: drafted haven't already made million dollars. So let's look at

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01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 5: Shamar Stewart. Shamar Steart made about four million dollars at

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Speaker 5: Texas A and M. So you know, this is not

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Speaker 5: the NFL where in the early eighties the Bengals could

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Speaker 5: take Ricky Hunley and say take it or leave it.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's not like with Alfred Williams in the

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Speaker 5: nineties where they could force you to play. Shamar Steuart

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Speaker 5: comes in, he's made four million dollars. Okay, he get

1216
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Speaker 5: the guaranteed contract nineteen million dollars ten point four up front.

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Speaker 5: So as of right now, Shamar stored has made about

1218
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Speaker 5: fifteen million dollars. When he's done with this four year deal,

1219
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Speaker 5: assuming the Bengals don't exercise the fifth year, he's going

1220
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Speaker 5: to have made twenty three million dollars. You know that

1221
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 5: means you screw with him in the contract negotiations, right,

1222
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 5: and you start with two strikes against you. That's why

1223
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 5: Samar Stewart at a press conference after a game can

1224
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 5: laugh and say, yeah, we'll catch you guys on Monday.

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01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 5: He doesn't care. He doesn't care. And it's such a

1226
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Speaker 5: bad way of doing business because you start these relationships

1227
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 5: in you know you're behind the eight ball from the

1228
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Speaker 5: very beginning, and that's going to work against the Bengals.

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Speaker 5: I think these guys don't need a second contract anymore. Guys,

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Speaker 5: they can live on college money and first round, four

1231
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 5: or five year money. They don't need a second deal.

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Speaker 2: True.

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Speaker 1: And Mark, let me, we're talking to Mark Amazon and

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01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 1: people keep talking about the window of opportunity for the Bengals.

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01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:47,919
Speaker 1: The window is open, is the window? Blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: But how long does it take before your your Burrows

1237
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 1: and your Chases and your Higgins get frustrated by this

1238
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 1: spinning their tires? Man, sooner or later, it's just got

1239
01:03:58,600 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 1: to frustrate the hell.

1240
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Speaker 2: Out of these guys.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know this is starting. Remember you guys have

1242
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 5: been here for a long time. And so you remember

1243
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 5: where were you guys February tenth, two thousand. Remember that day?

1244
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 6: That was the day.

1245
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 5: Ken Griffy Jr. Came to time, right, and it was

1246
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 5: it was a holiday, man, But the Red told came

1247
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 5: Griffy Jr. We're gonna get some pictures, right, And they

1248
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 5: never got the pictures and things soured really quickly. And

1249
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 5: I got to think it's a similar deal with Burrow. Hey,

1250
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 5: we're gonna get your team, We're gonna get to Chase,

1251
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 5: We're gonna get a workable defense. The way this thing

1252
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 5: is headed, this is going to become Carson Palmer two

1253
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 5: point zero, where Burrow's gonna get tired of wasting year

1254
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 5: after year nine and seven, throw for five thousand yards,

1255
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 5: score thirty eight points and lose games. I'm gonna say

1256
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 5: something and people are going to think I'm the biggest

1257
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 5: idiot in the world. And you can't do it right

1258
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 5: now without his permission, I would think about trading Joe Burrow.

1259
01:04:56,680 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 5: Wowing about that, think about.

1260
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 1: It, talk about starting over.

1261
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 2: That would do it.

1262
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 5: Well, he's got a full note trade cause first off,

1263
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 5: but he's gonna make a hundred million dollars the next

1264
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 5: two years, right, that's his baits and the pro rated

1265
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 5: signing bonus. That's one hundred million dollars. Do you know

1266
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 5: what one hundred million dollars buys you defensively in the

1267
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 5: free agent market. I mean, you could go into last

1268
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 5: year and take the top three guys with the Joe

1269
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 5: Burrow money, and look, I love Joe Burrow. There's nothing

1270
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 5: against Joe Burrow. He is phenomenal. We're scoring thirty eight

1271
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 5: points with Joe Flacco who's forty and can't raise his arm.

1272
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Speaker 5: I mean, Jamar Chase is so good to me, He

1273
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 5: is so far away the best receiver in football. He

1274
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,919
Speaker 5: made Jake Browning look good two years ago. He's making

1275
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 5: Jake Joe Flacco look elite. Maybe with a decent quarterback

1276
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 5: and Higgins and Chase and some defenders with the Joe

1277
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 5: Burrow money, could that look better.

1278
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 12: Him in here?

1279
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Speaker 3: Mark, Because I'm I'm of the mind that I think

1280
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 3: you're You're now in that territory of there's been he's

1281
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 3: been hurt, he's injury prone. I think we can call

1282
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:12,479
Speaker 3: him that now we're at that point. And I also

1283
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 3: just wonder, and you and again, this is just what

1284
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 3: I wonder. I'm wondering and out loud with you guys,

1285
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 3: that is he ever going to be the same because

1286
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 3: at some point one of these injuries, if another injury happens,

1287
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 3: or maybe it's the next one or the one after that,

1288
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 3: he's not going to be the same. At some point

1289
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 3: after one of these injuries. Who knows which one it is?

1290
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 2: Is it this one?

1291
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 3: This is what is now fourth major injury in his career,

1292
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 3: what his forced surgery right in his career? I guess

1293
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 3: you count the pendix being one of them. And this

1294
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 3: is what is fifth injury with the calf at some

1295
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 3: point here. Yeah, you wonder if Joe Burrow is going

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Speaker 3: to be Joe Burrow as we know him, even in

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Speaker 3: a Bengals uniform or whatever uniform he's in.

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Speaker 5: That's a that's a very I mean, look, this is

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Speaker 5: again I mentioned this to my son the other day,

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01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 5: like you kidding me. I mean, you know this is

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Speaker 5: not the way the NFL works, right, You get a

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01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 5: quarterback and you ride that quarterback. But the secret sauce

1303
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 5: to all of it is when you get a quarterback

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Speaker 5: in his rookie deal in his first five years. That

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Speaker 5: was the beauty of the Bengals Super Bowl run. As

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01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 5: they were paying you know, restricted money to Joe Burrow

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01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 5: and they had that money and at the time they

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Speaker 5: had the Awoozia's and the guys they brought in, the

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01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 5: Von Bells and the Mike Hiltons and guys like that.

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Speaker 5: I mean, this defense is so incredibly bad, and I

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01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 5: feel like America is finally getting to see it that

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Speaker 5: Colston Lovelin play with his joke guys. I mean, you know,

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01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 5: Logan Wilson got created today. I look is Logan Wilson

1314
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 5: as good as he was three or four years ago. No, right,

1315
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 5: there's no doubt about it. But he's a pro like

1316
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 5: you know, he stands in there and plays the game.

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01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 5: I mean, these guys made two different business decisions not

1318
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 5: to get run over. That one guy's moving away from

1319
01:07:57,080 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 5: the play, which is inexplicable. And you know, there's no consequence.

1320
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Speaker 5: There's no consequence, there's no accountability. Guys are in the

1321
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 5: locker rooms. They we'll talk to you on Monday. It's bad.

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Speaker 24: Now.

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Speaker 1: Let me let me ask you guys this, because of

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01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 1: all these uh, these defensive moves they've made, these faux paus.

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01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 1: What what is that attributable to? Just you know, the

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01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 1: old school thinking gonna stand my ground. We're not going

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01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 1: to overpay you, even though it wouldn't have hurt to

1328
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 1: pay a von Bell or something or a Hilton somebody

1329
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:28,640
Speaker 1: like that to stay. What What the hell is the

1330
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 1: what's the thinking here?

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Speaker 5: I mean from my part, I mean, look, those guys

1332
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 5: are diminished, right, I mean Von Bell, Mike Hilton were diminished.

1333
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 5: The bigger problem is you got to replace these guys,

1334
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 5: and the draft has been so awful, and I mean, look, man,

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Speaker 5: have you seen Duke COVID's resume may have you if

1336
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 5: you take the time to look at Duke Covid his resume,

1337
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:53,719
Speaker 5: you know at the top you have present. There's nothing

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01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 5: under it, like this is the only job he's ever had.

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Speaker 4: Man, I mean it is.

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Speaker 5: You know, I hate to throw like baby out, but

1341
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:03,759
Speaker 5: I mean he comes from a football family. He played

1342
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 5: a little bit. He's never done anything else. He has

1343
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 5: been here for twenty years with the smallest staff in football,

1344
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:13,720
Speaker 5: and it is with after whiff after whiff the last

1345
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 5: five years. Now, there was some good, right, the Jermaine Pratt,

1346
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 5: the Logan Wilson. For a while they were crushing these

1347
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 5: third and fourth round picks. But the last four years

1348
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:27,599
Speaker 5: they are absolutely desolate. And look, even if a Marius

1349
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 5: Mems becomes a great tackle, Miles Murphy's done it like

1350
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 5: there is there is not a professional pass rusher there.

1351
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:37,760
Speaker 5: And the Shamar Stewart thing was botched. I mean, these

1352
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 5: guys don't need it the way they used to. You

1353
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 5: don't have the level of control that he used to have.

1354
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:47,560
Speaker 5: And the Browns and Duke Tobin, they they haven't learned that.

1355
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 5: They haven't gotten that memo yet.

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Speaker 3: Very very well, said Mark and along those lines to

1357
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 3: piggyback off what you said. My thoughts on this is

1358
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:02,600
Speaker 3: that they are now fully exposed in that what they

1359
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 3: did in the Joe Burrow area was they decided that

1360
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 3: money wise, they were going to go all in on

1361
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:09,799
Speaker 3: this offense. They are obsessed with offense.

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01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 24: You know.

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01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 3: They've paid big, big money to Joe Burrow, to Jamar Chase,

1364
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:15,920
Speaker 3: to T Higgins, a guy that I think that they

1365
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 3: didn't need to bring back, but Joe Burrow wanted him back,

1366
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 3: so they decided to pay big money to him. They

1367
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 3: paid big money to Orlando Brown Junior. They brought in

1368
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 3: Kappa who's no longer here. They paid big money to him.

1369
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 3: They paid big money to Ted Carriss. And so when

1370
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 3: you've you know, in the NFL with the salary cap,

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01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 3: when you've decided you're going to spend all your money

1372
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 3: on that side, well then you better dog on well

1373
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 3: draft really well on the defensive side. And they just don't.

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Speaker 2: They do.

1375
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Speaker 3: They are not good at evaluating talent, and that's been

1376
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 3: very historical for them. That's not an overnight thing where

1377
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 3: they just all of a sudden, they just don't know

1378
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 3: how to evaluate talent. You know, you can get a

1379
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow in the first round, and that's a slam dunk.

1380
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 3: He's going to be great for any team. Jamar Chase

1381
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 3: is going to be great for any team. These are

1382
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 3: generational talents, and so you were so bad for so

1383
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 3: long you fall into getting those draft picks. So you

1384
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 3: don't really get a lot of credit for drafting those guys.

1385
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:12,639
Speaker 3: It's those guys that you're drafting the second and third

1386
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 3: and fourth and fifth rounds. And go look at what

1387
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 3: they've drafted here on defense over the last you know,

1388
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:20,879
Speaker 3: I think somebody had a stat that they've drafted sixteen

1389
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 3: players defensive players since twenty twenty two, and not a

1390
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 3: one of those guys as a significant contributor for this

1391
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 3: football team right now. And that's it right there. That's

1392
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 3: the story that they are just not good at drafting,

1393
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 3: and they were forced by their decision to spend all

1394
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 3: this money on the offense. They forced themselves into then, okay,

1395
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 3: we're going to build the defense to the draft, and

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01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 3: we see that that hasn't worked out. Because they have

1397
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 3: the smallest scouting staff in the NFL. You know, they'll

1398
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:58,680
Speaker 3: say that Duke's not the general manager, and like the

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01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 3: whole thing is just needs to be completely overhauled and

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01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 3: they need to add more, and we can go on

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01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 3: and on. Eddie's given me the we got to cut

1402
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 3: this off signals. So because Mark, we could keep going

1403
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 3: all the way up until Lance's in here in an

1404
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:14,599
Speaker 3: hour and then he's gonna pick it up.

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01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:18,120
Speaker 2: He's gonna run with it for three hours, three hours.

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01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 5: What let me let me throw one last thing out,

1407
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:24,799
Speaker 5: because you know, I keep seeing people in the media

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01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 5: and fans say, well, you know, if fans stop buying

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01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:31,560
Speaker 5: tickets to send a message that means nothing. Like the

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01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 5: last piece about this is when this changes. And the

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01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 5: only time this ever changes is when sweet sales go down.

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01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 5: If the Bengals don't sell ten thousand tickets for a game,

1413
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:46,639
Speaker 5: ticket prices are tickets revenues are aggregated divided by thirty

1414
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 5: two right around the league. So if the Bengals don't

1415
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:51,559
Speaker 5: sell out, nobody cares about that. So they don't care.

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01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:54,879
Speaker 5: It's when they don't sell sweets that it makes the difference.

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01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 3: But yeah, because Mark, they made the Bengals made four

1418
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:03,679
Speaker 3: and thirty seven million dollars last year in the NFL

1419
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 3: revenue sharing. That's whether they're good or bad, or they

1420
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 3: don't put one fan in the stands. They made that

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01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:11,919
Speaker 3: off of the TV deal alone.

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01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:15,600
Speaker 5: Yep, that's what matters to them. I mean it is

1423
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 5: you know, you're sharing with the Dallas Cowboys, and the

1424
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 5: stuff that is uniquely yours is what matters to them.

1425
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 5: But I mean, look, you talked about this is not

1426
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:27,479
Speaker 5: a new thing. I mean, Paul Brown lay on his

1427
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:30,559
Speaker 5: deathbed and among his final words to Mike Brown were

1428
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 5: don't draft David Klingler. Right, how'd that work out? I mean,

1429
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:36,680
Speaker 5: you know this is this is rotten from the from

1430
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 5: the top down, and it ain't changing anytime soon. Guys,

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01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 5: Hey was fun brainstorming with you. I would love it

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01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 5: if they would take this one of these ideas. It

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01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 5: ain't happening.

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01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 4: We all know it, all right.

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Speaker 1: With that, Mark, we will let you go, buddy, real pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Mike Bet, Thanks Mandara, Mark Amazon with

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Speaker 1: Regus Dean.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 15: Happy to be here with you guys.

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Speaker 1: So Dean, I was I heard you were doing this

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Speaker 1: event tomorrow night, and I did not realize that it's

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Speaker 1: the super moon is back.

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01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 15: Yes, the supermoon is back. It is the largest closest

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Speaker 15: full moon of the year, and it'll be Wednesday night

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01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:11,519
Speaker 15: rising up about five twenty five pm. And I don't

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Speaker 15: know if people saw the moon last night, but boy

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Speaker 15: it was pretty bright. So it's getting super every day here.

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Speaker 23: Now.

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Speaker 15: I mean, this isn't that huge of a deal. Like,

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Speaker 15: it's not like the Moon's going to be twice as

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01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 15: big as normal. It will be noticeably larger and really bright.

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Speaker 15: As it rise up higher, you're gonna see it shining

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Speaker 15: your window. And so for me, I think it's just

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Speaker 15: a great excuse to get people out there do some

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Speaker 15: stargazing and check this thing out.

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Speaker 3: What do you when you're looking at it at All Park?

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01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 3: Are you looking at it with the naked eye, are

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01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 3: you looking at it with telescopes? Or what all do

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Speaker 3: you do out there?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, the public event I'm leading is yet the top

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Speaker 15: of All Park, where the pavilion is. We're have some

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Speaker 15: telescopes set up up there. Watch the moon rise up there,

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01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 15: and then it's really it's some people are posting this

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01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 15: and I agree, it's like not the best time to

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01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 15: look at it through a telescope. It's almost blindingly bright

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01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 15: through a telescope, and you'll get to see quite as

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01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:09,599
Speaker 15: many of the detail, like the shadows aren't on there

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01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 15: quite as much. Uh So we'll be looking at that

1507
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 15: with the naked eye, do a little howling, and then

1508
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:18,680
Speaker 15: go to the other show that is looking through the

1509
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 15: telescope and showing people Saturn in the telescope, and that

1510
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:23,040
Speaker 15: just looks dynamite.

1511
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 2: It looks like this.

1512
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:27,640
Speaker 15: Cartoon little planet with a ring around it, and so

1513
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:31,000
Speaker 15: we'll show people that. So yeah, we got a whole

1514
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 15: bunch of different things happening for that at All Parks.

1515
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:35,759
Speaker 15: So yeah, moon rise is about five twenty five pm

1516
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 15: and then the event goes from six to eight, so

1517
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:40,639
Speaker 15: you can just come on up free to the public

1518
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 15: and uh yeah, we'll check out some stars and the

1519
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:44,559
Speaker 15: full moon and.

1520
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's going to be cool to be driving

1521
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 1: home tomorrow night being over to sound it. So but Dan,

1522
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:56,000
Speaker 1: let me let me ask you, where's the best viewing

1523
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 1: for stargazing and stuff like that?

1524
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 2: The moon?

1525
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:03,880
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously All Parks is a beautiful place, but

1526
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:06,560
Speaker 1: it's there with all the city lights surrounding it. I

1527
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 1: mean as far out in the country as you can get.

1528
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:10,839
Speaker 1: Is that pretty much your optimal situation?

1529
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 15: Oh yeah, I mean to see more stars. Definitely want

1530
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 15: to get away from the city lights with that moon

1531
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 15: up there, good luck, You're going to be hard pressed

1532
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 15: finding a dark skies anywhere right now for that because

1533
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:25,760
Speaker 15: that moon is going to be so bright. So yeah,

1534
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:28,599
Speaker 15: we usually recommend people get out to the state parks

1535
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 15: that are out of town, but for people that are

1536
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:35,640
Speaker 15: in the city. The Cincinnati parks system is awesome. I

1537
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:38,120
Speaker 15: mean they are most of the parks are open till

1538
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 15: ten o'clock at night, and you get some pretty good

1539
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 15: views and you can get away from a little bit

1540
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:45,560
Speaker 15: of the city lights and places like Alt Park and

1541
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:50,400
Speaker 15: Alms Park and Mount Echo and some other places around town.

1542
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 15: So yeah, it's you know, it's just I just like

1543
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 15: to get people to look that's the big thing, and

1544
01:18:57,479 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 15: take the time. And I got to be honest, when

1545
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 15: the supermoon thing happened, like maybe ten years ago, when

1546
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:06,760
Speaker 15: I first came around, I was like, eah, this thing.

1547
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:09,600
Speaker 15: I mean, I mean, so what nobody's gonna notice? And

1548
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:12,840
Speaker 15: so we didn't have I did an event grudgingly, and

1549
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:14,840
Speaker 15: I found it. People loved it. I mean they were

1550
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 15: just like sitting on the grass there watching the moon rise.

1551
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 15: Their phones were off, They're talking to each other. So

1552
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 15: I was a supermoon convert. I'm like, hey, yeah, people

1553
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 15: go out and do watch this. I'm all for that, Dean.

1554
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:32,639
Speaker 3: For those of us who are have to read Outer

1555
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 3: Space for dummies to understand and listen to you. Of course,

1556
01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:39,800
Speaker 3: what you said, this only comes around what once every

1557
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:42,760
Speaker 3: ten years, and why is that, and is it the

1558
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 3: Earth is closer to the Moon than a certain point here,

1559
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:48,599
Speaker 3: Like what can you explain kind of the the one

1560
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:49,920
Speaker 3: oh one of the supermoon.

1561
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 15: Yeah? Absolutely, I mean the Moon goes around the Earth,

1562
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 15: but it doesn't go around in like a perfect circle.

1563
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 15: So there's sometimes in its orbit where it's closer to

1564
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 15: the Earth than some times is farther from the Earth.

1565
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:04,839
Speaker 15: And so it's one of those things where it matches

1566
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:07,599
Speaker 15: up where it's closest to the Earth and a full

1567
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 15: moon at the same time. And there's some other things

1568
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 15: like some of the NASA websites they've been trying to

1569
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 15: milk this thing, and they make like three super moons

1570
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:20,080
Speaker 15: every year, like where it's close and kind of big.

1571
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 15: I always like to opt for the one, you know,

1572
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:25,680
Speaker 15: let's just do it one time. And so this one

1573
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:28,479
Speaker 15: is the closest. There was a pretty good one last month,

1574
01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 15: and there'll be a pretty good one next month, but

1575
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:33,840
Speaker 15: this one will be technically the best. And if people

1576
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:36,559
Speaker 15: really want to get nerdy about this, the moon rise

1577
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 15: is not the closest approach.

1578
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 2: Will be to the Moon.

1579
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 15: It'll be at around midnight tomorrow night, where the moon

1580
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 15: will be only two hundred and eighteen thousand miles away.

1581
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 15: That's about as close as you're gonna get to the

1582
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 15: moon ever, And because usually the moon is about two

1583
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 15: hundred and forty thousand miles away, so this is a

1584
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 15: pretty good chunk of distance, a little bit closer to us.

1585
01:20:57,160 --> 01:20:59,360
Speaker 3: Hey, you know, putting that perspective, I got a two

1586
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:01,640
Speaker 3: hundred and forty one thousand miles on my truck, so

1587
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:02,719
Speaker 3: that's not that far away.

1588
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 15: You've you've driven enough to go to the moon, not back,

1589
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 15: but to the moon at least.

1590
01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 1: Yeap, So and let me get because Dean, we talked

1591
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:14,800
Speaker 1: about this before. What is this going to look like?

1592
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 1: Because I think I told you this has been years

1593
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:19,599
Speaker 1: and years ago.

1594
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 2: I remember.

1595
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was just the perspective that

1596
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 1: I had, but man, the it was about this time

1597
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 1: of year and the sun or the moon came up

1598
01:21:30,479 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 1: and it looked like it took up half of this

1599
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 1: horizon as it was rising. Now, I don't know what

1600
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 1: what does that do to when you get that kind

1601
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:42,800
Speaker 1: of view, mean that it looked like, you know, five

1602
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 1: times the size of the moon regular.

1603
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 15: Yeah, it's really cool when you watch the moon rise.

1604
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 15: I think that's the best part the best time, because

1605
01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 15: when it's lower on the horizon, it does have this

1606
01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:57,519
Speaker 15: like optical illusion. This makes me seem bigger in your

1607
01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 15: brain than it actually is. And then when it's up

1608
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:03,080
Speaker 15: higher in the sky, it takes kind of its normal

1609
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:06,720
Speaker 15: size and your brain and so astronomers and scientists have

1610
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 15: been studying this phenomenon. It's called the moon illusion. And

1611
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:12,280
Speaker 15: it was first thought that it's just because you have

1612
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 15: these reference points like trees and houses and that kind

1613
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:19,720
Speaker 15: of stuff. And so some of the smarter eggheads were like, yeah,

1614
01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:22,479
Speaker 15: it's not really that, because it doesn't it's not actually bigger.

1615
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:25,639
Speaker 15: It just looks bigger in our brain. And so it's

1616
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 15: a brain illusion. Our brains are fooling ourselves into thinking

1617
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 15: it's actually bigger. It's really is the same size, it

1618
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:38,639
Speaker 15: just looks like it to us. And so I used

1619
01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 15: to do this TV show on PBS called Stargazers if

1620
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:46,640
Speaker 15: anybody remembers, that would fly through space on hoverboards and

1621
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:49,320
Speaker 15: it was always on at a convenient one am. So

1622
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 15: if you didn't see it, I'm not too hurt. But

1623
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 15: I inherited that show from a guy named Jack Horkheimer.

1624
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 15: He was the guy that would come on PBS's late

1625
01:22:57,960 --> 01:22:59,679
Speaker 15: at night and talk about what's up in the space.

1626
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:02,879
Speaker 15: And he said, the way you come bat the moon illusion,

1627
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 15: I am not joking, is you turn your back to it,

1628
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 15: look upside down, through your legs backwards at the moon

1629
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 15: upside down, and they'll turn normal size. Now I thought

1630
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 15: he was joking with me, and I thought I thought.

1631
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 15: I thought, man, okay, so he's pulling this thing, and

1632
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:22,280
Speaker 15: I'm I'm not going to do it. I'm not going

1633
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:23,920
Speaker 15: to do it in front of him, that's for sure.

1634
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:25,960
Speaker 15: So there was one night where I had the full

1635
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 15: moon rise and nobody was around, and I did it,

1636
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 15: and I swear it worked. So I I encourage people

1637
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:37,720
Speaker 15: to try this at home when nobody's looking, and who knows,

1638
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:39,680
Speaker 15: maybe tomorrow night at allt Park, I'll do it too,

1639
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:40,599
Speaker 15: with everybody looking.

1640
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1641
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 15: Well, we'll see how it works. But it's like one

1642
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 15: of those things. I thought, this is a joke, come on,

1643
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 15: and then I did it and actually did work.

1644
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 2: You have to there, you go, Dean. You have to

1645
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 2: be with the group tomorrow.

1646
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:53,640
Speaker 24: You have to.

1647
01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:58,639
Speaker 2: Everybody. We're going to do some yoga moon gazing here,

1648
01:23:59,200 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 2: just for a few minutes.

1649
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 1: Take a picture and put that on a social Dude,

1650
01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:03,439
Speaker 1: you all get a million views.

1651
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 15: I mean, the problem is I don't know if I'll

1652
01:24:06,280 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 15: be able to get back up.

1653
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:07,640
Speaker 7: That's the thing.

1654
01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 15: It doesn't go down there now, but I don't know

1655
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:10,920
Speaker 15: about getting back up again, so I might.

1656
01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 7: Need some help.

1657
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:16,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead, Oh go ahead? Oh what is it

1658
01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 3: forgive again? Forgive my ignorance on this? Like you go

1659
01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 3: to Alt Park? Is it does it just being up

1660
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 3: on a hill even allow for a better view or

1661
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:31,599
Speaker 3: is it just because that's a big gathering space.

1662
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:35,040
Speaker 15: Oh yeah, yeah, anybody can see it anywhere. I'm doing

1663
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 15: it at All Parks just because I love All Park.

1664
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:40,560
Speaker 15: It's and I been working with the Cincinnati Parks for

1665
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:43,160
Speaker 15: a long time, and it's a great place. It's a

1666
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:47,640
Speaker 15: good gathering spot of the Yeah, it really is. And

1667
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 15: it's pretty decently dark up there too, So I always

1668
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:53,000
Speaker 15: go up to All Park to if I want to

1669
01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:54,920
Speaker 15: look at something low on the horizon, because it's got

1670
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 15: good views to the horizon. But yeah, we'll be showing

1671
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:02,040
Speaker 15: people Saturn tomorrow night. That's going to be a real

1672
01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 15: cool highlight. And yeah, it's almost like an excuse to

1673
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 15: get people out under the stars and then we'll show

1674
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:11,240
Speaker 15: them Saturn and then that's what they're going to be like,

1675
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 15: Saturn is the real highlight.

1676
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 1: And how many telescopes would you say you have scattered

1677
01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 1: about there?

1678
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 15: Good question. So far, I'm still rounding up the troops here,

1679
01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:23,680
Speaker 15: so I'm not sure how we're gonna end up with.

1680
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:25,639
Speaker 15: But it'll be enough for everybody to see some stuff,

1681
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 15: that's for sure, all right.

1682
01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:30,800
Speaker 1: And what else is as far as the heavens go,

1683
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 1: that's coming up here.

1684
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 15: Well, So on Saturday people, if you want to check

1685
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 15: out actual rocks from outer space, I'm doing an event

1686
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:44,680
Speaker 15: at the North Side Library Saturday at three o'clock where

1687
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:47,640
Speaker 15: we're gonna have a meteorite event, meteor right displays. Some

1688
01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 15: of my buddies are going to bring some of their

1689
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 15: meteorites from the asteroid belts, some Moon meteorites, some Mars meteorites,

1690
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:56,240
Speaker 15: and people can see and hold and touch them and

1691
01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 15: at the free event s that's at the north Side

1692
01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:02,439
Speaker 15: Library at three o'clock. And then for meteor shower gazers,

1693
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:07,040
Speaker 15: we've got the Lioned meteor Shower coming up November seventeenth, eighteenth.

1694
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:09,160
Speaker 15: That's when the peaks where you can maybe see a

1695
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 15: dozen shooting stars an hour going across the sky, and

1696
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 15: that's always a pretty good one. And you can maybe

1697
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:17,720
Speaker 15: even see some earlier in the week two once the

1698
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:20,240
Speaker 15: full moon gets out of the way. So yeah, those

1699
01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 15: are the big events coming up, So lots to see

1700
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:23,400
Speaker 15: up there.

1701
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:28,240
Speaker 3: Some of your friends in the in the stargazing world,

1702
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:31,760
Speaker 3: you said, have some meteorite rocks. Where would one go

1703
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:32,519
Speaker 3: to get those?

1704
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:36,920
Speaker 15: Oh, believe me, I got a guy for you, that's

1705
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:44,640
Speaker 15: for sure. I know that's yeah. So yeah, there's legitimate

1706
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:47,560
Speaker 15: meteorite dealers. How you get started in that field, I

1707
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:50,120
Speaker 15: have no idea, but anyway, these are these are fellows

1708
01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:52,960
Speaker 15: that and the women and men that have been like

1709
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:55,960
Speaker 15: in this field for a while. They they don't just

1710
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:57,720
Speaker 15: like go out and collect them. Some of them do,

1711
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 15: but mostly they they deal with reputable fines, reputable falls

1712
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 15: where they have these rocks at the sell from space.

1713
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 15: Most of them are gathered in the Sahara Desert and

1714
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:14,599
Speaker 15: the Antarctic continent because it's on top of the sand

1715
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 15: or on top of the snow, and so it's a

1716
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 15: little bit easier. You can just pick things up on

1717
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 15: top of whatever's on top. Fell from up above, and

1718
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:24,320
Speaker 15: so yeah, people do ask me, they're like, what do

1719
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 15: you trust these guys, Like, I mean, what if what

1720
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 15: if they're just giving you like limestone from you know,

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Speaker 15: from the East End or something like that. And the

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01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:36,800
Speaker 15: thing is, if they ever sell a non meteorite, they

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Speaker 15: are done.

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01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:40,519
Speaker 4: That is that is, that is their reputation is on.

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Speaker 15: They'll never Yeah, meteorite people don't mess with uh, don't

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01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 15: mess with them because yeah, but I've got a small

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01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:51,080
Speaker 15: collection myself. But the ones that are coming on Saturday,

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01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:55,519
Speaker 15: they are some pretty impressive specimens and people can like

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01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:59,559
Speaker 15: hold them and they're really cool cool rocks, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: All right With that, Dean, don't pick up any bogus

1731
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 1: space rocks and people can catch you tomorrow night at

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01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:07,800
Speaker 1: the at ALLT Park.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, tomorrow up at All Park will be great. Like

1734
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:12,840
Speaker 15: I said that, the event goes six to eight, but

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01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:15,600
Speaker 15: move a little bit earlier at five twenty five, So

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01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:17,439
Speaker 15: come on up a little early if you like to

1737
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:21,280
Speaker 15: hang out, and yeah, bring some space rocks too, why

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01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:22,320
Speaker 15: not come on up for that?

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01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:23,680
Speaker 2: All right, buddy, love it?

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01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:24,320
Speaker 1: Thanks so much.

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01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:27,680
Speaker 15: Hey, thanks guys, and keep looking up there you go.

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01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 1: Astro Dean is dot com is his website. No, I'll

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01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:37,800
Speaker 1: tell you talk about a specialized gig, dude, go on

1744
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:41,639
Speaker 1: being a meteor it's a sales guy.

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01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:47,439
Speaker 3: Well that sounds wondering, like and he said it there

1746
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:49,880
Speaker 3: you can go to the Sahara doesn't And I know

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01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:52,519
Speaker 3: they're probably not just Oh, they're all over the place

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01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:54,240
Speaker 3: and you can just if you get it right, if

1749
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 3: you just travel there, you're going to find one.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they're very rare to find in those spaces.

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01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 1: But it seems like that would be kind of a

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01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:03,720
Speaker 1: hard business. Yeah, get that's what I mean, right, Like,

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01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:07,519
Speaker 1: you know, it's like being a moon rock guy. Where

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01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:13,000
Speaker 1: do you start? First go to the moon. It's like

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01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:17,120
Speaker 1: the old Steve fin Steve, old Steve Martin bit, how

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Speaker 1: but before we get out of here on Election Day, Jase.

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Speaker 1: Of course, it seems like every year it gets this

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01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:19,080
Speaker 1: type of thing gets more and more prevalent. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: to our good friend Don Mahallick. He is the law

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Speaker 1: enforcement contributor retired senior service agent for ABC News. And Don,

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Speaker 1: what's the latestest thing out of Jersey.

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Speaker 12: Huh?

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Speaker 24: Well, Jersey apparently has gotten a bunch of threats directed

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Speaker 24: towards the polling places, and those threats have forced the

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Speaker 24: polling place to be closed down for a while while

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Speaker 24: the Jersey law enforcement agencies go in and actually sweep

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01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:48,880
Speaker 24: and check the places. These are legit bomb threats that

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01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:52,200
Speaker 24: are coming in which after investigation, turned out to be hoaxes.

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Speaker 24: But you know what raises the issue once again about

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Speaker 24: election security and election safety and the fact that we're

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01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:02,320
Speaker 24: dealing with an environ where the voter is being targeted

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Speaker 24: and to move the voter in a different direction or

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Speaker 24: to dissuade the voter from voting and participating in democracy.

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Speaker 24: And those threats come from foreign actors or domestic actors

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Speaker 24: a lot online, but also now we're seeing it in

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Speaker 24: live real time with a legit, you know, old school

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01:32:19,240 --> 01:32:21,640
Speaker 24: threat of a bomb, a bomb at one of these

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Speaker 24: polling locations. It's a sad status, but thankfully it seems

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Speaker 24: like the people in New Jersey are handling it appropriately.

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Speaker 3: Is there something in particular on the ballot in New

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01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 3: Jersey that's very hotly contested this year? I know here

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01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:38,240
Speaker 3: in Ohio we don't have there's not a lot of

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01:32:38,280 --> 01:32:41,519
Speaker 3: hotly contested things on the ballot, but and just wondering

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01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:44,080
Speaker 3: if that is New Jersey specific thing.

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Speaker 2: Going on there?

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Speaker 24: To the governor's race in New Jersey is a very

1824
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:52,960
Speaker 24: hot contest because it's probably closer than people think, and

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01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:56,080
Speaker 24: I think the bomb threats are a response to that.

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Speaker 24: It's interesting to bomb threats coming. I think they were

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Speaker 24: focused around Newark, Jersey versus some other parts of the state.

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Speaker 24: That might be an indication of the where the threats

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Speaker 24: are emanating from. But either way, it just interferes with

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Speaker 24: the democracy. It interferes with people's voting choices, and in

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01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:15,760
Speaker 24: a case like that, it frightens voters from going to

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Speaker 24: the polls and voting. So, you know, the voter is

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Speaker 24: being targeted across the US. We saw it last year

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Speaker 24: in twenty twenty four. We're seeing it again in this

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Speaker 24: and this is a quieter election than last year.

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Speaker 5: With the presidential election. So let's hope.

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Speaker 24: The law enforce and agencies are responding appropriately and the

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Speaker 24: voters are making smart choices when we're going to the polls.

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Speaker 1: Domaholis our guest, and don let me ask you, as

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01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:46,559
Speaker 1: retired secret service how long does it take to come

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01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:50,040
Speaker 1: in sweep that and clear it with dogs and such?

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01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:51,200
Speaker 1: I assume as what they use.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, it all depends on where the voting location is,

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01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:57,479
Speaker 24: if it's a small polling place or a big polling place.

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01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:01,040
Speaker 24: A lot of places they use school and they use

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01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:04,479
Speaker 24: you know, government buildings as polling places, which generally are

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01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:06,200
Speaker 24: on the smaller side. But you know, in a place

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01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:09,439
Speaker 24: like Newark, it potentially could be a larger building because

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01:34:09,439 --> 01:34:11,839
Speaker 24: of the size of the population. So it really depends

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01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:15,320
Speaker 24: on the size of the facility they're sweeping and how

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01:34:15,400 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 24: many you know, knine assets and search teams they.

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Speaker 3: Use done to these uh you know in particular today

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01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:24,600
Speaker 3: these come in by telephone?

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01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:27,200
Speaker 2: Or do they come in by a text? Do they

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01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:29,080
Speaker 2: come in through social media? Hey?

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Speaker 5: This?

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01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:30,519
Speaker 24: Uh?

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01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:31,080
Speaker 5: You know this?

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01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:31,840
Speaker 2: Certain?

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Speaker 7: Do you know?

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Speaker 2: How do you do you know the how they originate?

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Speaker 5: I don't, Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 24: In a case in New Jersey, I think I think

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01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:44,280
Speaker 24: they came in via old school phone call. Somebody called

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01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:47,040
Speaker 24: it a bomb threat and named the polling location, which

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Speaker 24: hopefully will help them in tracking where the threat came from.

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01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:54,960
Speaker 24: But the bottom line is between the internet, cell phones,

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01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:59,960
Speaker 24: you know, there's multiple pathways to to issue a threat

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01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:03,280
Speaker 24: and it's a lot of work for the law enforcement

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01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:05,439
Speaker 24: agencies involved. And when these threats come in and try

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Speaker 24: to try to track him down and then hopefully arrest

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01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:08,480
Speaker 24: who's responsible.

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Speaker 1: And is it an immediate response on that don I

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01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:13,280
Speaker 1: would assume as soon as they get it, and they're

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01:35:13,320 --> 01:35:16,280
Speaker 1: just like, okay, clear the clear of the building. There's

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Speaker 1: no you know, there's no yea, zero reason to wait

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01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:21,240
Speaker 1: around and see it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this is a.

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Speaker 24: Credib Now, Now, when a bomb threat comes in they typically,

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01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:27,840
Speaker 24: you know, you want to treat every call as if

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01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:30,920
Speaker 24: it's real until you prove it's a hoax. So when

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01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:34,280
Speaker 24: these calls come in, the buildings are immediately evacuated. The

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01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:37,719
Speaker 24: laws and agencies arrive, they clear, they search the area,

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01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:40,160
Speaker 24: they clear, and once it's clear, they'll let people back

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01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:43,080
Speaker 24: into the building. These days, a lot of law enforcement

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01:35:43,640 --> 01:35:47,479
Speaker 24: agencies around the country, particularly in the bigger metropolitan cities,

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01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:50,120
Speaker 24: will tend to set up task forces around election day

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01:35:50,600 --> 01:35:52,840
Speaker 24: to monitor the polls, to monitor what's going on in

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01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:55,080
Speaker 24: the polls, and to be able to respond, as you know,

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01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:58,000
Speaker 24: as needed to the polling locations should an issue arise.

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01:35:58,439 --> 01:36:01,680
Speaker 24: So I would, I would Jersey is set especially in

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01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:03,920
Speaker 24: an area like Newark, is set up like that as well.

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01:36:04,840 --> 01:36:08,040
Speaker 3: Don you're uh, you know, you're retired senior Secret Service agent,

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01:36:08,200 --> 01:36:14,000
Speaker 3: so you know you've seen everything. Are bomb threats harder

1896
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:19,040
Speaker 3: to track in today's world of technology versus when we're

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01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:23,040
Speaker 3: back when everyone used landlines and payphones or is it

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01:36:23,240 --> 01:36:23,360
Speaker 3: is it?

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01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:26,519
Speaker 2: Is it harder? Is it easier? What you know, is

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01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:30,280
Speaker 2: it completely changed the game with cell phones and uh, you.

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Speaker 24: Know it's completely changed. Uh, you missed the days of

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01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:37,720
Speaker 24: the old rotary phone. It's completely changed the game with

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01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:41,720
Speaker 24: cell phones because you have that that mobility. Uh, that's

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01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:44,800
Speaker 24: that's present now with a cell phone call or even

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01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:46,680
Speaker 24: the Internet, and you us to have the issue of

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01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:49,240
Speaker 24: having to go through the Internet to find somebody. Whereas

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01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:52,080
Speaker 24: in the old days, is somebody called called from an

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01:36:52,120 --> 01:36:55,519
Speaker 24: old style rotary phone or even a push button phone,

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01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:58,439
Speaker 24: it was a direct line from that individual's home to

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01:36:59,160 --> 01:37:02,160
Speaker 24: whoever they were called. Now, because of the Internet, because

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01:37:02,160 --> 01:37:05,240
Speaker 24: a lot of calls are made digitally, we have these

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01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:08,720
Speaker 24: voice over Internet protocols where there's IP addresses involved, and

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01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:12,080
Speaker 24: you know, you can change your IP address or hydri

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01:37:12,120 --> 01:37:13,160
Speaker 24: IP address.

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01:37:12,880 --> 01:37:13,519
Speaker 4: With a VPN.

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01:37:13,640 --> 01:37:16,160
Speaker 24: So it makes it real challenging for law enforcement to

1917
01:37:16,280 --> 01:37:19,400
Speaker 24: backtrack in these cases. They're able to do it, and

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01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:23,360
Speaker 24: a lot of times the vendors, the phone companies are

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01:37:23,439 --> 01:37:25,760
Speaker 24: helpful in these situations, but it's still it's a lot

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01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:28,280
Speaker 24: more work and a lot harder than it probably was

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Speaker 24: in the old days.

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Speaker 1: All Right, with that, Don, we will let you go, buddy,

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01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:35,200
Speaker 1: thanks so much, thanks for having me.

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01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:36,080
Speaker 24: Guys appreciate it.

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01:37:36,240 --> 01:37:36,439
Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: John Don Mulhullakey is a retired secret service working with

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01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:45,720
Speaker 1: ABC News and man, it just seems like, Jason, every

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01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:47,000
Speaker 1: year it gets worse and worse.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and just to think that it's not even a

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Speaker 3: presidential year, and you know how much of this stuff happens,

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01:37:54,439 --> 01:37:56,360
Speaker 3: you know, in a presidential year or where it's going

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Speaker 3: to keep happening because people see this like, oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: and you know they're they're evil, dev evil people out.

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Speaker 1: There, Jason. Uh in other news, And let's get off

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Speaker 1: the political bead here for a minute and get it.

1936
01:38:14,280 --> 01:38:16,120
Speaker 1: Do a cute cat story.

1937
01:38:17,160 --> 01:38:20,640
Speaker 2: You know, you know, do you have a cat? We

1938
01:38:20,760 --> 01:38:21,719
Speaker 2: are not cat people.

1939
01:38:22,920 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 24: Uh.

1940
01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:25,959
Speaker 1: This this happened in New Hampshire.

1941
01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:31,880
Speaker 2: Ray Ray. The cat sounds like probably a cat that's.

1942
01:38:31,800 --> 01:38:32,240
Speaker 23: Like a dog.

1943
01:38:33,439 --> 01:38:33,639
Speaker 4: Uh.

1944
01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:37,840
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I don't know where you get Ray Ray.

1945
01:38:38,520 --> 01:38:40,000
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't I don't mind a cat

1946
01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:42,519
Speaker 2: that's like a dog, by the way, but anyway, go ahead.

1947
01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:46,160
Speaker 1: You're not a cat guy, No, I'm I got no

1948
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:48,240
Speaker 1: problem with cats. I'm allergic to them, but I don't

1949
01:38:49,240 --> 01:38:52,400
Speaker 1: But anyways, Ray Ray. So they were going from a

1950
01:38:52,479 --> 01:38:57,439
Speaker 1: little town in Pennsylvania to Keen, New Hampshire. They're at

1951
01:38:57,439 --> 01:39:02,360
Speaker 1: the beginning of October. The cat, a little Ray Ray,

1952
01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:06,920
Speaker 1: apparently didn't want to be left behind. So, after driving

1953
01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:12,000
Speaker 1: about one hundred miles, Tony DiNardo, ray Ray's owner stopped

1954
01:39:12,040 --> 01:39:15,559
Speaker 1: the van for a bathroom break and discovered ray Ray,

1955
01:39:15,680 --> 01:39:19,160
Speaker 1: the eight year old cat, clinging to the car's roof.

1956
01:39:20,360 --> 01:39:23,519
Speaker 3: Oh no, I had a feeling you were going to

1957
01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:26,960
Speaker 3: have a Christmas fake care. What was the summer vas right?

1958
01:39:27,120 --> 01:39:27,360
Speaker 24: That was?

1959
01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:30,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was Christmas vacation with whatever they had Clara

1960
01:39:30,840 --> 01:39:34,920
Speaker 1: whatever her name was, the dog dogs attached.

1961
01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:37,799
Speaker 2: To the bumper. Yeah, I thought you were adding that direction,

1962
01:39:38,120 --> 01:39:42,280
Speaker 2: he said. They left for a trip clinging to the roof.

1963
01:39:42,840 --> 01:39:46,960
Speaker 1: Said the mom, Margaret, how did the cat stay up there?

1964
01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:53,080
Speaker 1: And he seemed completely unfazed. The family believed that ray

1965
01:39:53,200 --> 01:39:57,280
Speaker 1: Ray lodged himself between the luggage you know they you know,

1966
01:39:57,520 --> 01:40:02,280
Speaker 1: just like the family vacation. Yeah, they had the luggage

1967
01:40:02,439 --> 01:40:05,400
Speaker 1: rack on the top there, so apparently old ray Ray

1968
01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:09,840
Speaker 1: got himself lodged in there under the suitcases and put

1969
01:40:09,880 --> 01:40:12,400
Speaker 1: his claws into one of the straps or something. It

1970
01:40:12,560 --> 01:40:19,040
Speaker 1: just went for a ride, and uh he so they

1971
01:40:19,080 --> 01:40:21,720
Speaker 1: stopped at a pet store, got him, got him a

1972
01:40:21,720 --> 01:40:27,439
Speaker 1: little food, got him a leash. So, uh, I guess

1973
01:40:28,320 --> 01:40:30,120
Speaker 1: one of the reasons they were going to this little

1974
01:40:30,160 --> 01:40:33,240
Speaker 1: town in New Hampshire. Was that they have a marathon

1975
01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:38,240
Speaker 1: that this guy Tony was running in. So he carried

1976
01:40:39,560 --> 01:40:44,880
Speaker 1: I guess they were, Yeah, he was in. It was

1977
01:40:44,960 --> 01:40:48,720
Speaker 1: in this blah blah blah. He uh, I guess his

1978
01:40:48,840 --> 01:40:51,080
Speaker 1: wife met him along the way and he carried the

1979
01:40:51,160 --> 01:40:52,519
Speaker 1: cat across the finish line.

1980
01:40:53,200 --> 01:40:53,920
Speaker 2: Oh so.

1981
01:40:56,760 --> 01:40:59,479
Speaker 1: Ray Ray seemed to be very happy and now she

1982
01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:02,600
Speaker 1: plans to write a children's book about her pet's adventures.

1983
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:06,479
Speaker 3: So it's a happy ending there for Ray Ray and

1984
01:41:06,920 --> 01:41:09,960
Speaker 3: the family because it could.

1985
01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:14,920
Speaker 2: Have gone really, really bad. Well see, y Ray could

1986
01:41:14,920 --> 01:41:17,360
Speaker 2: have been like a bug on a windshield for someone,

1987
01:41:17,479 --> 01:41:20,559
Speaker 2: and well that had been bad for the other guy too.

1988
01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:25,200
Speaker 1: Can you imagine you're driving down the interstate, you know,

1989
01:41:25,400 --> 01:41:27,560
Speaker 1: you're going seventy seventy five miles an hour. Of a

1990
01:41:27,600 --> 01:41:31,360
Speaker 1: sudden a cat in your windie, you know, like a

1991
01:41:31,479 --> 01:41:35,080
Speaker 1: bug on your windshield, except as a you know, fifteen

1992
01:41:35,120 --> 01:41:35,959
Speaker 1: pound cat.

1993
01:41:36,680 --> 01:41:38,800
Speaker 3: That's gonna do a little damage to your windshield too.

1994
01:41:39,640 --> 01:41:42,479
Speaker 3: Thank thank, thank goodness, Ray Ray safe and had a

1995
01:41:42,560 --> 01:41:46,560
Speaker 3: fun trip. And I'm sure they had to spend a

1996
01:41:46,600 --> 01:41:49,400
Speaker 3: little extra money there on the cat carrier, and.

1997
01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:51,840
Speaker 1: Well I'm sure they had to take that car through

1998
01:41:51,880 --> 01:41:53,880
Speaker 1: a car wash up top of you know what I'm saying.

1999
01:41:54,120 --> 01:41:57,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and their ugge had to have a little

2000
01:41:57,439 --> 01:42:02,000
Speaker 1: cat excrement attached to it in some way.

2001
01:42:02,040 --> 01:42:04,080
Speaker 2: She might have been coming out of both ends for Ray.

2002
01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:08,120
Speaker 1: Ray, as scared as he was, I could just see

2003
01:42:08,200 --> 01:42:13,960
Speaker 1: that cat go and tell the under holding on for

2004
01:42:14,080 --> 01:42:17,559
Speaker 1: his dear little cat life. Uh with that, let's get

2005
01:42:17,600 --> 01:42:20,840
Speaker 1: on out of here. But before we do, let's check

2006
01:42:21,240 --> 01:42:22,040
Speaker 1: traffic and weather.

2007
01:42:22,280 --> 01:42:23,600
Speaker 3: What is going on?