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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show, dye too. Now time for

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Speaker 1: two more. Justlo, there are many many positives I.

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Speaker 2: Can get understand.

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Speaker 1: I don't right, that's a fact that Markettle foul whipping

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Speaker 1: Big boys back.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's Parker Fox to start nine to noon, so

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Speaker 2: he gets this. What's happening with your alma mater beat

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Speaker 2: the nineteen last night? Iowa had a barrage of shots

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Speaker 2: at the end to ruin the fun and tie the

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Speaker 2: game and missed them all and Gophers basketball beat another

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Speaker 2: ranked team in good morning, Parker Fox, Good morning, Nordo,

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Speaker 2: good morning.

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Speaker 1: Good morning. Yeah, that was that was fun.

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Speaker 3: He got the got the first half at the Old Cannabury,

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Speaker 3: watching it with some amazing friends over there, and then

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Speaker 3: caught the second caught the end of the game at

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Speaker 3: home finally, But wow, what a what a game you

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Speaker 3: hold Bennett Sturtz, who's arguably one of the best point

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Speaker 3: guards in the country to zero points in the first half.

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Speaker 3: He explodes in the second half for twenty one and

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Speaker 3: ended up shooting it pretty well in the second. But

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Speaker 3: just a team effort, truly a team effort. I think

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Speaker 3: Minnesota they're in a position where you lose your starting

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Speaker 3: and you can get pretty down. You could you could

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Speaker 3: kind of mail it in and say, hey, it's our

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Speaker 3: first year. All the excuses in the world are there

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Speaker 3: for you if you want them. And the approach has

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Speaker 3: been the opposite of that. And Nico's really orchestrated exactly

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Speaker 3: what he wants and exactly what the future of the

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Speaker 3: program is going to be in Minnesota. And I think

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Speaker 3: last night was just kind of icing on the cake

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Speaker 3: for them to be able to beat Iowa at home.

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Speaker 1: Storm the court.

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Speaker 3: You know, you can comment whatever you want on storm

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Speaker 3: the Court, but anytime you beat Iowa hasn't happened in

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Speaker 3: I think six years now at home.

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Speaker 1: So that's one we're celebrating. Well, I'm curious, is this

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Speaker 4: You mentioned it and he's he's fresh to Minnesota, He's

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Speaker 4: moments like this, whether it's Iowa last night, I think.

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Speaker 1: It was Indiana right, indianswer right? The other victory are

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Speaker 1: are these just these are just.

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Speaker 4: Sneak peaks at who Nico is as a coach, right

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Speaker 4: because in the end, sneak peak at the over the totality.

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Speaker 1: Of this season.

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Speaker 4: What we saw last night is probably this team's going

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Speaker 4: to fail, maybe more than they succeed, but in patches

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Speaker 4: with a patchwork roster, the injuries. You noted that this

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Speaker 4: is kind of a testament to like, Oh, I think

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Speaker 4: Nico knows how to ball.

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Speaker 1: Nico can figure.

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Speaker 4: It out and that should lend to maybe some optimism

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Speaker 4: among the Maroon and Gold faithful.

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Speaker 3: I think I think if you ask Nico this question

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Speaker 3: a standard for what I want to be here at

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Speaker 3: Minnesota when people come into the Barn, into the home arena,

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Speaker 3: we want to have that home court advantage. As you

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Speaker 3: guys know, in the late nineties, you couldn't get a

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Speaker 3: up through that culture. He was a student Assistan underneath

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Speaker 3: He knows what it can be like, so, I think

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Speaker 3: you're right, Nordal. There's injuries, there's things that are going

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Speaker 3: the program to look like, and you start winning games

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Speaker 3: like this, you're gonna get better recruits, You're gonna get

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Speaker 3: more funding, you're gonna be able to have more NIL money.

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Speaker 3: It's all going to continue to trend in the right direction.

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Speaker 3: And then you gotta have guys that are proud to

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Speaker 3: But these guys got to they got to be proud

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Speaker 2: Win, go for Nation. So the Bennett's Spennett starts starts. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Now is he the kid who shot the top of

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Speaker 3: The kid's a study average nineteen a game last year

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Speaker 1: Is he considered NBA stock?

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Speaker 3: The speed of some of those guys in the NBA

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Speaker 3: look at kan K Nipple what he's done in his

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Kan K Nipple, Man, I'm not trying to turn

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Speaker 1: For those guys Mat Nipples the bomb.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's it's the it's the the rookie effect of

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Speaker 3: it's seven to twelve three point attempts per game. He's making,

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Speaker 3: So I think he's he's the perfect kind of role

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Speaker 2: They employ a seven man rotation all the time, and

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Speaker 2: if so, can it sustain?

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Speaker 3: that's just what they have right now. That's just it's

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Speaker 3: it's the lot that they were given with injuries, with

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Speaker 3: confident in playing. They're going to play their starters, each

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Speaker 3: to use Grayson Grove and Kai Shinholster the freshman off

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Speaker 3: like Grayson Grove had four big second half dunks in

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Speaker 2: He's not even supposed to be a starter, right, He's

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Speaker 3: Ninety percent of his offense comes within the charge arc

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Speaker 2: Alma Mater gets USC here Friday, then Bucky comes to

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Speaker 2: town next Tuesday. Do you think Do you think uh

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Speaker 2: Nico's squad wins both? Yeah, very different games.

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Speaker 1: Only seventeen points for Miami heat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, home at home too, So you get him at home,

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Speaker 2: Rudy is sixth in the NBA okay in offensive rebounds okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't got the other names. I only got Rudy.

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Speaker 1: Six I don't got I don't got it up either.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I probably out of Bayo top of

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Speaker 1: Is it the Houston Cat Wemby? No, No, Wemby. Wemby

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Speaker 2: The second year Number one is da Dona, Oh Donovan Klingon,

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Speaker 2: Grabs him, Mitchell Robinson eighteen minutes a game, four and

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Speaker 3: That's unbelievable, relentless, terrible free throw shooter, but relentless on

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Speaker 4: You might be historically bad free throw One of the

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Speaker 2: I mean Ben Wallace, Shack, Mitchell Robinson. Yea three of

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Speaker 2: Lastly, here on the how if they trade to become better,

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Speaker 3: I love the idea of a floor general that can

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Speaker 1: I think you would have to give up too much.

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Speaker 2: So took him five seconds to pick up on it.

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Speaker 2: And he's like, Okay, if you want Julius to shoot

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Speaker 2: the starting five, because he's has so many other things

435
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Speaker 2: to work.

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Speaker 1: Uh, to deal with.

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Speaker 2: I would imagine, yeah, and he's like three for his

438
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Speaker 2: last twenty six I believe that.

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Speaker 1: And Julius hasn't hasn't been great from three either. I

440
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Speaker 1: don't like Julius from three that much. I like him

441
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Speaker 1: like two or three a game.

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Speaker 2: Max.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you.

444
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Speaker 3: I think when he puts his head down in attacks,

445
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Speaker 3: you think that's when he's at his best.

446
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Speaker 1: I do.

447
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Speaker 3: I would love a little bit more bench help. I

448
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Speaker 3: think they haven't been to the level defensively that that

449
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Speaker 3: Chris Finch would want them. I think they were really

450
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Speaker 3: good last night defensively the good there, and I think

451
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Speaker 3: they're trending in the right direction. But you look at

452
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Speaker 3: that that that Brooklyn loss, like that's an unacceptable one,

453
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Speaker 3: just defensively. That Brooklyn's a terrible offensive team. You can't

454
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Speaker 3: take off nights. And I get it, it's one of those,

455
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Speaker 3: you know, cogs in the system in an eighty two

456
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Speaker 3: game season. But I think if you have to look

457
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Speaker 3: at something specifically, I look at the defensive effort, how

458
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Speaker 3: can you bring even more Gelan Clark, Maybe you bring

459
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Speaker 3: in uh, somebody that's known for for their defensive energy.

460
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Speaker 3: We talked TJ McConnell, Nordle. I absolutely love that. It's

461
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Speaker 3: still stuck on my brain. But I think at the

462
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Speaker 3: end of the day, it's cliche. But defense wins championships

463
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Speaker 3: and if you can find a way to bring in

464
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Speaker 3: somebody that can help you on that side of the ball.

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Speaker 3: You got the scoring an Aunt and Julius and and Jayden,

466
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Speaker 3: when when Jayden's on his offensive game, you need that

467
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Speaker 3: that defensive side of the.

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Speaker 1: Ball as well. Packers are Bears. Who do you like

469
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Speaker 1: and why Bears? Right away?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's quick, it's quick twitch for me. Yeah, I

471
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Speaker 3: think it's a pick them game.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 3: I know it's a pick them game, which I'm going

474
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Speaker 3: quick twitch. I think Ben Johnson is ready for this moment.

475
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Speaker 3: I think they're going to have it going offensively. I'm excited.

476
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Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be I think there's a lot

477
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Speaker 3: of really good games. I think phenomenal. You look across

478
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Speaker 3: the whole slate, it's really anyone's anyone's deal. I think

479
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Speaker 3: there's you can make an argument for a lot of

480
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Speaker 3: teams have the opportunity to win this thing. But I

481
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Speaker 3: really like the Bears. I like where they're at, and

482
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Speaker 3: I like I like their defense.

483
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Speaker 2: As well as SINNI and Studio at eleven o'clock for

484
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Speaker 2: some border battle and does some playoff previewing with a

485
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Speaker 2: Dave Sennekim. Great scene, Taylor last night at that surprise

486
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Speaker 2: party at Canterbury. You guys look super happy and the

487
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Speaker 2: banker I was there to make sure everything was just

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Speaker 2: perfect for the nights.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he was looking over he was looking over everybody.

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Speaker 1: He was fired up.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I got Nordo barely knows the banker. Tim Siegley.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but every time you see me, chortles or chuckles

494
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Speaker 2: or smiles, because Nordo can sense a good vibe. Yeah,

495
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Speaker 2: he just knows there's something pure, good, righteous and help

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Speaker 2: worthy here.

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Speaker 4: It's a good human right there. It's the banker. The

498
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Speaker 4: smile never leaves his face. He and his wife were

499
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Speaker 4: so nice to chat with last night. Now that that

500
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Speaker 4: was an awesome party at Canterbury. That was so fun.

501
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Speaker 4: That was terrific. I'm really glad your daughter could be

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Speaker 4: there as well. Just the whole bit.

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Speaker 1: It was.

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Speaker 3: It was excellent. The food is great, the people were great.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, it's great to see the banker. We got

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Speaker 3: lunch today at now and so I'm sure we'll be

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Speaker 3: chatting a little bit more.

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Speaker 1: You had no idea, did you?

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Speaker 6: None?

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Speaker 2: Until I got off the third floor elevator, looked left.

511
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well my son had sold to me for

512
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Speaker 2: a week and change. There is a an employee Canterbury Park,

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Speaker 2: employee only Turbo Texas Holdham tournament. You're fired up, and dad,

514
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Speaker 2: my gift to you for your sixtieth birthday is it's

515
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Speaker 2: one hundred dollars a person. I'm going to buy you

516
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Speaker 2: in Like all right, I mean, I'm laying on my

517
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Speaker 2: couch at six o'clock, honestly, with all due respects of

518
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Speaker 2: the last thing I wanted to do. I was wondering,

519
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Speaker 2: there's nobody here. This is weird. It's my sixtieth birthday.

520
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Speaker 2: There's nobody at my house right now. It's weird. It's lonely.

521
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Speaker 2: So then Buddy shows up. We roll to Canterbury. I

522
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Speaker 2: get off the third floor elevator and it starts to

523
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Speaker 2: hit me like, well, why are we doing a poker

524
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Speaker 2: tournament up here? And then I look left and I

525
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Speaker 2: see the balloons. Then I come into the room and

526
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Speaker 2: I had to turn away. I was so touched and moved.

527
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Speaker 2: I mean I just looked like Nordo Parker, Taylor, Alix

528
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Speaker 2: charge Utah Mouse.

529
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Speaker 1: It's so good.

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Speaker 2: I just was unbelievable it. Nordo brought Eva and Stella.

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Speaker 2: There were friends from my church. Chris Hockey sang, oh

532
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Speaker 2: so good. Adam Daniel played the keyboard about eighty of

533
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Speaker 2: you just did a great job keeping secrets because I

534
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Speaker 2: was blown away. My daughter Coley flew in from Denver,

535
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Speaker 2: Derek driving me to Canterbury for the surprise shindig was cool.

536
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Speaker 2: The TLC and love that Lisa put into the evening

537
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Speaker 2: second to none church and Roxy flew in from Utah.

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Speaker 1: That woke the old up and I was genuinely touched. Man,

539
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Speaker 1: So thank you guys very much. Awesome. The videos were

540
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Speaker 1: so cool just to see you just just with the

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Speaker 1: old like no gray hair, hair in one chin. Who

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Speaker 1: is this guy?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

544
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Speaker 1: Who is this guy on top of these racehorses?

545
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Speaker 2: That was excellent, man, it was really really great scene

546
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Speaker 2: Taylor as I adore your fiance and sir a good

547
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Speaker 2: fashion and holy cow, what a game changer on the ice.

548
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Speaker 2: She is, Man, I ain't breaking news here or anything,

549
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 2: but talking to her for three minutes about that social

550
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Speaker 2: media clip I saw against somebody recently where she won

551
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Speaker 2: the game and the goalie had her eyes closed trying

552
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Speaker 2: to catch the pucks.

553
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Speaker 1: You got snipe so badly. I'm like breaking down hockey

554
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Speaker 1: with her.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: It was cool.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she was on the tails of an eleven day

558
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Speaker 3: road trip, but we we had to there for you.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 1: It was it was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: Well, God bless you and your family, Matt Man, and

562
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Speaker 2: I love you too, thank you for coming.

563
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Speaker 1: Likewise, Ernardo and Ava and Stella. Man, that was so

564
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Speaker 1: great seeing your kids last night. Can't stop thinking about it.

565
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Speaker 1: Oh they love you, man, and I love them. Wonderful,

566
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Speaker 1: wonderful young girls. All right.

567
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Speaker 2: See a pea Fox Parker Fox at Parker Fox two

568
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Speaker 2: four part of the Timber Tech What's on Deck set list,

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Speaker 2: which includes bikes bites right around the corner, followed by

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Speaker 2: Mike Florio. If you put together an elongated bikes bites

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Speaker 2: and we clip on it a little bit. Because of

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Speaker 2: the Steve's Appliances marathon, we got plenty of spots to

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Speaker 2: a mix of men during the course of the show,

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Speaker 2: and Florio joins about nine. At ten o'clock, we have

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Speaker 2: a vikings talker of the day with talkbacks tied to them. Yes,

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Speaker 2: and Donordo is going to be leading that Alas, there's

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Speaker 2: much more on the Wednesday nine to noon presentation, And

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Speaker 2: I'm Paul Allen.

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Speaker 1: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to nine to Noon at FM one hundred

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Speaker 2: point three KFA Night Spots, Vikes Bites, Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: It's nine to noon, nine thirty. Mike Florio around the corner.

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Speaker 4: As Pa mentioned last segment, at ten am, were going

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Speaker 4: to start. I don't know if it's going to be

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Speaker 4: an everyday thing. If we do it just once today

586
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Speaker 4: and never do it again, that feels unlikely. But a

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Speaker 4: talkback talker of the day, So if you're interested in

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Speaker 4: participating and offering some big opinions on the purple, that's

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Speaker 4: going to be around ten o'clock. But Vike's Bite starts

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Speaker 4: now and we just have a handful of minutes. I

591
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Speaker 4: did want to hit on a couple of things here though,

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Speaker 4: including Brian O'Neil talking about the end of the season.

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Speaker 1: Feel for him personally.

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Speaker 5: I would say this one might be easier because we

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Speaker 5: knew that this was the last one, if that makes sense,

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Speaker 5: or last year we were planning to play for I

597
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Speaker 5: was planning to play for a while, So when it

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Speaker 5: abruptly ends and you weren't expecting you to, that makes

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Speaker 5: it harder. Yeah, I guess that's kind of a different sounds.

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Speaker 1: Like Brian going through kind of similar mentality.

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Speaker 4: Is those of us that follow the team, love the team,

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Speaker 4: and the emotional roller coaster of a season. We knew

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Speaker 4: kind of after that Bears game you mentioned at PA's

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Speaker 4: this two percent thing. I'm just not going to ride

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Speaker 4: that vibe. It's just it's not going to work this year.

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Speaker 4: And and then that became the human nature part of

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Speaker 4: things that you spoke of and guys like Brian, if

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Speaker 4: you can play, you can play, which leads me to

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Speaker 4: this audio clip.

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Speaker 5: I don't think there's regret because there's a lot of

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Speaker 5: things that it's all out of our control with injuries

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Speaker 5: and that type of thing. But I sure would have

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Speaker 5: liked to had our full group with out there more

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Speaker 5: than we were. So yeah, but you can't. You can't

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Speaker 5: have regrets, and you got to leave it all out

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Speaker 5: there and if you can play, you play, and if

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Speaker 5: you can't, you know, somebody else has to step in.

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Speaker 5: And that was kind of the nature of our room

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Speaker 5: and really our team this year.

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Speaker 2: Well what Brian, Those are excellent clips, by the way,

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Speaker 2: because Brian opens the door if somebody is so inclined.

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Speaker 2: When looking forward to the what's X plan? Where Monday

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Speaker 2: we were like, I mean the mandates right now are are?

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Speaker 2: What was the order I put them in? McCarthy, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: McCarthy drafting better. Flores Yeah, Flores Flores figure that and

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Speaker 2: they're right the draft bit McCarthy draft ye to start

627
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Speaker 2: to just start drafting better, with all due respect to

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Speaker 2: get players who who help quicker and.

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Speaker 1: More effectively in certain spots.

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Speaker 2: All right, But then behind that you have a whole

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Speaker 2: slew of talkers with talkbacks for the off season that

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Speaker 2: are non obvious.

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Speaker 1: Brian just put us on one.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's he's opening the door for those to

635
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Speaker 2: read between the lines and when he says, if you

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Speaker 2: can play, you play right, and then he stops it

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Speaker 2: right there, just trying to figure out like.

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Speaker 1: What do you mean?

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Speaker 2: I mean, like, what do you mean all those concussions

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Speaker 2: for Ryan Kelly? I know you don't mean that right,

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Speaker 2: So that was it interesting?

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Speaker 4: No, And that's the frustrating part of nine and eight

643
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Speaker 4: radio is identifying that identifying financial levers to pull in

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Speaker 4: all those things. I mean, we're going to be digging

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Speaker 4: deep in the weeds, and well, I'm going to dive

646
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Speaker 4: head first into the weeds at ten am with my

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Speaker 4: talkback talker on a Wednesday morning and we'll go a

648
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Speaker 4: little bit deeper there.

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Speaker 1: One more or two more, Little Vike's bitch.

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Speaker 4: How do you evaluate the tight end room in twenty

651
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Speaker 4: twenty five and then kind of couple that with moving forward.

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Speaker 4: It's a little difficult for me, and I know the

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Speaker 4: coaches will, we'll have their processes and such. This could

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Speaker 4: lead down the road of TJ. Hawkinson and that money

655
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Speaker 4: he's going to make. It could lead down the road

656
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Speaker 4: of what do you think of Josh Oliver if if

657
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Speaker 4: you featured him more only nineteen targets, fifteen catches, but

658
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Speaker 4: he was tied for the team leading touchdown receptions this year.

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Speaker 2: You made Ben simm sound like a cross between Bryce

660
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Speaker 2: and Nesbit and Josh Wiley, And you're a second and.

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Speaker 1: You're a second the baby carrots.

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Speaker 4: But I just when you when you come into an offseason.

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Speaker 4: You want to have not you don't need absolutes, but

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Speaker 4: you need leans. You need ideas and trends that push

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Speaker 4: you forward. And when you try to evaluate this tight

666
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Speaker 4: end grouping, it's very difficult for me to do that, Pa,

667
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Speaker 4: because of what we got out of the quarterback spot

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Speaker 4: this year. The idea, Hey, you know, we bring in

669
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Speaker 4: Jordan Mason if we can establish him. For the most part,

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Speaker 4: I thought Jordan Mason nearly five oclip when he was

671
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Speaker 4: healthy and active, like, I love the first season that

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Speaker 4: we got out of Jordan Mason.

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Speaker 1: Me too, kind of wish we got more out of him,

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Speaker 1: to be honest.

675
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Speaker 2: And with Jordan, I loved how he messed up his

676
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Speaker 2: ankle in a losing season and it was important for

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Speaker 2: him to come back and play.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you know where good If you can play, you

679
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Speaker 1: can play.

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Speaker 2: Seriously, that's the That's the around Banksgiving when I'm like,

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Speaker 2: all right, boys, these are human nature games, yea. And

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Speaker 2: for those who know what to look for, you know

683
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Speaker 2: where to look, but it will reveal itself.

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Speaker 1: And with Mason it didn't.

685
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Speaker 2: I mean, he messed up his ankle early in that

686
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Speaker 2: Giants game when when he was on the cart heading

687
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Speaker 2: back to the locker room. I mean I thought he

688
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: was done for the year. I mean he had like

689
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Speaker 2: a towel over his head. He was banging his fist down.

690
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Speaker 2: He was so frustrated he couldn't play. But then in

691
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Speaker 2: an in nine and eight radio season, my man comes

692
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Speaker 2: back plays makes a difference, he does.

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Speaker 4: Indeed, I love that Vike's bites. We're gonna pause now.

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Speaker 4: I do have some things in my back pocket. As

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Speaker 4: you mentioned, we got some openings later on. But Mike Florio,

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Speaker 4: Pro Footballtalk dot Com his weekly appearances around the corner PA.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, it's nine thirty six PFT radio next on Kfan.

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Speaker 2: My Glorio pro football Talk dot Com, author of us

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Speaker 2: part of the well respected NBC Football Night in America crew,

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Speaker 2: and Mike joins us. Now into the D nine and

703
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Speaker 2: eight around here, Man, what do you think moving forward

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Speaker 2: for the Vikings in good morning?

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Speaker 6: Well, hey, the good news is that of the fourteen

706
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Speaker 6: playoff teams, thirteen are guaranteed did not finish the year

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Speaker 6: with a five game winning streak. So the Vikings have

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Speaker 6: that there is for them, which is nice. Look, they

709
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Speaker 6: averted a disaster when it was four and eight. It

710
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Speaker 6: was as bad as it could have been, and there's

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Speaker 6: something to be said for the resilience that the team showed,

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Speaker 6: the leadership that Governor O'Connell displayed to get things turned around,

713
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Speaker 6: especially since most of those games. Four of those games

714
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Speaker 6: were played at the time when the team knew it

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Speaker 6: had no chance of making it to the playoffs. And

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Speaker 6: it's good that it was done then because when you

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Speaker 6: look at the final standings, it's tantalizing to see how

718
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Speaker 6: close the Vikings were to snatching that seventh seed. And

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Speaker 6: I don't know how the tie breakers would have gone

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Speaker 6: if the Cowboys and Packers hadn't tied all the way

721
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Speaker 6: back in the week fourth, the Packers had lost that game,

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Speaker 6: My gut tells me the Vikings probably would have won

723
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Speaker 6: the tiebreaker. Now again, that Packers would have made a

724
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Speaker 6: greater effort to try to win the game than they did.

725
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Speaker 6: But regardless, finishing with five in a row thirty years

726
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 6: ago that would mean a lot more. As it relates

727
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Speaker 6: to the carryover to the next season, roster is going

728
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Speaker 6: to be very different. Coaching staff could be very different.

729
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Speaker 6: With each passing hour that Brian Flores doesn't sign an extension,

730
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Speaker 6: it becomes more likely that he takes at least a

731
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Speaker 6: lateral move, And even if he does sign an extension,

732
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Speaker 6: he could become the head coach of one of the

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Speaker 6: seven teams that are currently looking for a new guy

734
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Speaker 6: to lead the locker room. So it's good, but it's

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Speaker 6: an asterisk because next year is going to be very different.

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Speaker 6: But it's better to finish the way they did than

737
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Speaker 6: to finish the way the Jets did with five straight

738
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Speaker 6: losses and a combined point differential minus one thirty seven

739
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Speaker 6: twenty seven point four points per game they lost by

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Speaker 6: It's always better to go into the offseason with a

741
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Speaker 6: team that feels optimistic, and anyone who is next year

742
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Speaker 6: is going to benefit from that vibe.

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Speaker 2: All right, So at Pro football Talk dot com yesterday,

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Speaker 2: I read this story about former Vikings quarterback Kirk Cousins

745
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 2: and Atlanta and a modified deal all right and fairness

746
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Speaker 2: and announcer act. I'm dumb because I read that and

747
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, well, he's going to stay in Atlanta. Well,

748
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Speaker 2: then I read further and I saw some other things

749
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 2: were like with this modified deal, it makes it easier

750
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Speaker 2: for him to leave Atlanta. And this is going to

751
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Speaker 2: be an off season here with people talking about veteran

752
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Speaker 2: backups or veterans who can compete for the one spot.

753
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Speaker 2: What do you think about all that with Kirk o chains.

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Speaker 6: Well, here's what the contract revision ultimately means. Because what

755
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 6: happened was somebody reported about the modification. One of the

756
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Speaker 6: other writers at PFT wrote about the modification, and then

757
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Speaker 6: when I had a chance, I did a little digging

758
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Speaker 6: to see what it all really means. Here's what will happen.

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Speaker 6: On March eleven or March twelve, the Falcons will release

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Speaker 6: Kirk Cousins with a post June one designation. The contract

761
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Speaker 6: adjustment it was done earlier this week, whatever day they

762
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Speaker 6: did it. It was all about reducing the cap number

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Speaker 6: that the Falcons will carry until June two, when financially

764
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Speaker 6: the release hits the books, and it was about ensuring

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Speaker 6: that the Falcons will have no choice but to cut

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Speaker 6: him before March thirteen. He won't be on the market

767
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Speaker 6: technically when the market opens, but anyone who's going to

768
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Speaker 6: be looking for a quarterback will know that Kirk Cousins

769
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Speaker 6: is in play and therefore will be considering him as

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Speaker 6: an option, and he'll get the best possible deal that

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Speaker 6: he can because the reality is the longer it takes

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Speaker 6: for you to hit the market, the less money is

773
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Speaker 6: going to be available because teams burned through their budgets.

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Speaker 6: So Cousins is going to be available for any team

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Speaker 6: that's looking. But when you consider the landscape, the Jets,

776
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Speaker 6: the Steelers, maybe the Browns, the Raiders, the Cardinals, there

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Speaker 6: are teams out there that definitely are going to be

778
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Speaker 6: considering their options at QB one and needs to happen,

779
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Speaker 6: and we see this every year. The coaching carousel needs

780
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Speaker 6: to stop before the quarterback carousel begins because where will

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Speaker 6: the head coaches be, Who will be the head coaches,

782
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 6: who will be the offensive coordinators? Where do we draw

783
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,439
Speaker 6: lines and connect dots back to Kirk Cousins. Those things

784
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Speaker 6: are all relevant to what the options will be for

785
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Speaker 6: the teams who need starting quarterbacks to consider Kirk Cousins.

786
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Speaker 6: And he played well enough down the stretch that he's

787
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Speaker 6: going to get another pay day three hundred and twenty

788
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Speaker 6: one million in career earnings, and he's going to get

789
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Speaker 6: more money Now, he's guaranteed to get ten million from

790
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Speaker 6: the Falcons, but that's subject to offset, and he's clearly

791
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Speaker 6: going to make more than ten million this year. The

792
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 6: question is how much more than thirty thirty five is

793
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Speaker 6: he going to make. I think he will get paid.

794
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Speaker 6: I think he'll be somebody's QWB one as of Week one,

795
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Speaker 6: and I think that fact makes it less likely he'd

796
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Speaker 6: come back to Minnesota for anything other than a clear

797
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 6: assurance that he's the starting quarterback. The last thing he's

798
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Speaker 6: going to want to do is another one of these

799
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Speaker 6: situations where he does a deal and then he finds

800
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Speaker 6: out six weeks later they've drafted his replace. He's gonna

801
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Speaker 6: be very careful about that this time around, because he

802
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 6: got burned by that in Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: All right, So when I lay something outs minus seven hundred,

804
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Speaker 2: given your wheeling West Virginia raised, you know exactly what

805
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Speaker 2: I'm talking about. And earlier in the week I said

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Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy in my estimation is a minus seven hundred

807
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Speaker 2: favorite to start Week one for the Vikings next year.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about that?

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Speaker 6: Well? I don't know. All I know is this, if

810
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Speaker 6: he's going to be the Week one starter, they'd better

811
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Speaker 6: have somebody there who is able to step in when

812
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Speaker 6: he inevitably gets hurt. That's the biggest issue, whatever improvement

813
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Speaker 6: he makes, and there's been plenty of talk about footwork

814
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Speaker 6: and mechanics, and he's only got one pitch in the arsenal,

815
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Speaker 6: and it's a fastball, and it prevents the kind of

816
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Speaker 6: layering of passes that can work the middle of the field,

817
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Speaker 6: which the Vikings have done very well in past years.

818
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Speaker 6: They need someone who will be happy to be there,

819
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Speaker 6: paid accordingly to be the one bee to McCarthy's one A.

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Speaker 6: And I think you have to give that person a

821
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Speaker 6: fair chance to win the starting job. You're not going

822
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Speaker 6: to get them to sign if you don't tell them

823
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Speaker 6: they have a fair chance, and they'll get a fair chance,

824
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Speaker 6: and at the end of the day they'll start the

825
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 6: best guy. I think that McCarthy hasn't done enough this

826
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Speaker 6: year to have that job guaranteed, And if you're going

827
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Speaker 6: to have a capable alternative, you have to give that

828
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 6: person a fair shake at competing for the starting job.

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Speaker 6: So I'm not going to go minus seven hundred because

830
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Speaker 6: I think the kind of guy the Vikings need as

831
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Speaker 6: insurance against future inevitable JJ McCarthy injuries is going to

832
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 6: be somebody who's potentially good enough to win the starting job.

833
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 6: I think it's that simple. So the Vikings just need

834
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 6: to do what's best for the team. In twenty twenty six,

835
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 6: they failed to do that. In twenty twenty five, they

836
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Speaker 6: failed to have someone there who would be the viable

837
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Speaker 6: alternative to JJ McCarthy, and that's one of the reasons

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Speaker 6: why even with a nine to eight record, it's not

839
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Speaker 6: good enough to get to the postseason p FT.

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Speaker 2: Is the autumn wind going to be a Flores? You

841
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 2: think the Raiders tried to woo Brian Flores to become

842
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Speaker 2: their next head coach.

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Speaker 6: I caught wind of the rumor over the weekend from

844
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Speaker 6: somebody I've known for a long time and somebody I

845
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Speaker 6: trust that this Brian Flores and Brian dabol combination in

846
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 6: Las Vegas is out there. The steam's there, and it

847
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Speaker 6: makes sense when you consider this. Tom Brady was able

848
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Speaker 6: last year to keep his head low and his mouth

849
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Speaker 6: shut as it relates to how much involvement he had

850
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Speaker 6: in the concoction of a twenty twenty five Raiders team

851
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 6: that ended up being abysmally bad. It was reported by

852
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Speaker 6: the Las Vegas Review Journal a year ago. It's Tom show. Now.

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00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 6: The problem is he's a part timer. He's not there

854
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 6: every day. He's chiming in from time to time and

855
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 6: probably irritating to people who are there putting in the work.

856
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 6: No one resents being told what to do by somebody

857
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 6: who isn't there working elbow to elbow. And the statement

858
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 6: that came out on Monday from the Raiders when they

859
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 6: fired Pete Carroll said that GM John Spytech, in close

860
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 6: collaboration with Tom Brady, will lead the football operation, including

861
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 6: the search for a new coach. So you know, you

862
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 6: think about this personality wise, teams tend to go for

863
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 6: the exact opposite of the guy they fired. So if

864
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 6: Pete Carroll you have the raw, raw, always positive players

865
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Speaker 6: coach and it was a complete and total disaster, the

866
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Speaker 6: exact opposite is a guy who has belichickie in DNA,

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Speaker 6: and that's what Brian Floores is and Brian Daball is.

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Speaker 6: And I think if Josh McDaniels hadn't already been the

869
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 6: coach of the Raiders and failed miserably, he'd be at

870
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 6: the top of the list. I mean, really, if McDaniels

871
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 6: doesn't have that miserable second stint in Las Vegas, he's

872
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 6: one of the top candidates right now, at least until

873
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 6: John Harball got dropped into the mix. So if Brady

874
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 6: is going to be calling the shots, I think Brady

875
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 6: is going to want to try to create a Patriot

876
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 6: Way because look at what happened when they created it

877
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 6: this year in New England with Mike Vrabell. Even though

878
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 6: he never worked as a coach for Bill Belichick, he

879
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 6: played for Belichick. He's the perfect combination. I think of

880
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 6: Bill Parcells and Bill Belichick. He's got the right personality

881
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 6: that's going to be the key in Las Vegas. And

882
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 6: I think it makes Flores and day Ball or day

883
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 6: Ball in Flores. It could be day Ball as the

884
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,439
Speaker 6: head coach and Flores as a defensive coordinator. But either way,

885
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 6: I think Tom Brady has to be at a point

886
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 6: where if he's not going to be there all the time,

887
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,439
Speaker 6: he needs people there running the show who learned how

888
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 6: to win from the same guy that Tom Brady learned

889
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 6: how to win from. So it all makes sense. It

890
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 6: almost makes too much sense. You know, a lot of

891
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 6: times something makes so much sense it's never going to happen,

892
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 6: but I guarantee you that rumor was out there and

893
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 6: it caught my attention over the weekend, and it's something

894
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 6: I'm going to monitor as the Raiders move forward.

895
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 2: How does Brady got all this decision making power and

896
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 2: get to call games for Fox with Burkhart?

897
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 6: How does that help get me started?

898
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 5: It started?

899
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 2: Well, seriously, well, I mean we've talked about it before,

900
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 2: like when he was in the coaches booth and you

901
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 2: started writing about it and stuff, and it was seen

902
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 2: it like Monday Night Football or whatever. But then I

903
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 2: mean it kind of went in one ear and out

904
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,439
Speaker 2: the other. For me, I didn't think it was that big.

905
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 2: But now all of a sudden, we're talking about this

906
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 2: minority owner with all this cachet making these massive decisions

907
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 2: and getting to call games and go to other facilities.

908
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,399
Speaker 6: From the moment that Fox hired Brady while his bid

909
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 6: to buy a piece of the Raiders was pending, my

910
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 6: first reaction was, the NFL is never going to approve

911
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 6: Tom Brady owning a piece of the Raiders. If he's

912
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 6: in this position where he's covering the entire league, he

913
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 6: has access that no other owner has as somebody said

914
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 6: when this all first finally became a thing after the

915
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 6: Monday night game between the Chargers and the Raiders, where

916
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 6: Brady was in the booth, and it's funny if you

917
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 6: watch that clip, he hits the button and drops the

918
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 6: chair down as low as possible. He's sitting there with

919
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 6: the tablet, he's got the headset on. He's working with

920
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 6: the Raiders coaches. Sometimes people need to see it to

921
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 6: understand the issues. And somebody, I can't remember who it was, said,

922
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 6: would you have an issue I think it was Marcus

923
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 6: Spears on ESPN, would you have an issue with Jerry

924
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 6: Jones calling games for Fox. He's the owner of the

925
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 6: Cowboys and he's out there in all these different stadiums.

926
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 6: And this is the key. You're in a position where

927
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 6: you're down on the field before the game, and you

928
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 6: get to see guys in a different context, and you

929
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 6: talk to a bunch of people, and people are going

930
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 6: to want to talk to you because the coaches and

931
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 6: the executives, they don't think of it the way fans do.

932
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 6: Fans pick a team for life. Coaches and executives pick

933
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 6: a team for a paycheck and an opportunity, and if

934
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 6: it doesn't work out with the team I'm with, then

935
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 6: there's going to be another team out there that may

936
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 6: hire me in. One of those thirty two teams is

937
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 6: the Raiders run by Tom Brady, and that's what Mark

938
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 6: Davis wanted. Davis said last January he brought in Tom

939
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 6: Brady to fill the role that had been held by

940
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 6: John Gruden to stabilize the football operation. I have to

941
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 6: wonder what Davis thinks about the stability that Tom Brady

942
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 6: has brought the Davis is fine with this absentee landlord Gig.

943
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 6: I think it's a problem, and I think he needs

944
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 6: to either be all in or all out. And you know,

945
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 6: from my perspective, when we went through and ranked the

946
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 6: desirability on a scale of one to ten of all

947
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 6: the various openings, I mean, from my perspective, I have

948
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 6: one view of that team if tom Brady's all in.

949
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 6: I have another view of that team if Tom Brady

950
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 6: is kind of halfway in, and another view of that

951
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 6: team if he just says I'm going to be a

952
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 6: passive investor and I'm not going to be involved in

953
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 6: management at all. But we know that's not going to happen.

954
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 6: He's involved, and whoever takes that job is going to

955
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 6: have to deal with the fact that after every game

956
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 6: he's going to get a phone call from Tom Brady,

957
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 6: who wasn't at the game, who may not have even

958
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 6: watched all of the game, and tom Brady's going to

959
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 6: have opinions on what that guy needs to do better.

960
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 6: Do you really, as a head coach, do you really

961
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,479
Speaker 6: want that in your life when you got enough other

962
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 6: stuff to deal with? And my guess is it drove

963
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 6: Pete Carroll crazy, And until Chip Kelly was fired, it

964
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 6: probably bothered him too that Tom Brady was chiming in

965
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 6: with all sorts of thoughts based upon watching the game

966
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 6: from afar.

967
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 2: Time for two more, did Kevin Stefanski take the fall

968
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 2: for Cleveland dysfunction?

969
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: And if so, why him a two time Coach of

970
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 1: the Year.

971
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:34,720
Speaker 6: Don't call the Browns dysfunctional. The owner has asked nicely

972
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 6: that we not call the Browns dysfunctional, So from this

973
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 6: point forward, I am referring to them as the definitely

974
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 6: not dysfunctional Browns. Okay, look, this all goes back to

975
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 6: the Deshaun Watson deal, the single worst transaction in league history,

976
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 6: worse than herschel Walker. Here's why you give up three

977
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 6: first round picks, you give up three second round picks.

978
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 6: You lose the ability to bring in young, cheap players

979
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,760
Speaker 6: who will form the nucleus of your team moving forward.

980
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 6: And you give forty six million per year on a

981
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 6: five year contract, two hundred and thirty million fully guaranteed

982
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,399
Speaker 6: to Deshaun Watson at a time when you know he's

983
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 6: going to get suspended. He's got more than twenty at

984
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 6: the time civil lawsuits pending against them alleging sexual misconduct

985
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 6: during the massage therapy sessions that resulted in eleven game suspension.

986
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 6: It derailed his twenty twenty two season. He didn't play

987
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 6: in twenty twenty one, twenty twenty three, he gets injured.

988
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 6: They cobble together a playoff appearance, pulling Joe Flacco off

989
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 6: the couch. Kevin Stefanski was a two time Coach of

990
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 6: the Year because he took the Browns of the playoffs twice.

991
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 6: Because nobody ever expects the Browns to go to the playoffs,

992
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 6: not under Jimmy has them Haslum's the problem, and this

993
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 6: is the core issue for every fan of every definitely

994
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 6: not dysfunctional team. You can't fire the cote the owner.

995
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 6: There's no recall vote. You're stuck. Jed York said it

996
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 6: when he went through the stretch of fired, Jim Harbaugh,

997
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 6: fired Jim tom Sulla, fired Chip Kelly. He said in

998
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 6: a press conference, you don't dismith. It's the owner that's

999
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 6: the problem. You're stuck and somebody had to take the fall.

1000
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 6: Think of it this way. Number one, for every team,

1001
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 6: when the season ends, you got to get your season

1002
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,720
Speaker 6: ticket holders to renew. So you got to do something

1003
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 6: to get them feeling good about the team. And in Cleveland,

1004
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 6: especially Paul, they get that new stadium coming, I guarantee

1005
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 6: you they're going to have PSLs massive investment. Capital investment.

1006
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 6: Got to pay that phony money for the right to

1007
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 6: sit in the seat that you otherwise buy with your

1008
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 6: season ticket money. So they got to do something, and

1009
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 6: I don't know what their plan is. They need to

1010
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 6: make a big swing. I'm surprised they're not at the

1011
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 6: front of the line for John Harbaugh. That's the kind

1012
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 6: of move that they need to make. If you're going

1013
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 6: to inspire the fan base to plunk down a significant

1014
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 6: amount of disposable income for PSLs, you need to go

1015
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 6: out there and you need to get a big name.

1016
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 6: And really, if I'm a guy with options, that's the

1017
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 6: last team I'm going to go work for, even though

1018
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 6: they're definitely not dysfunctional.

1019
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 2: Packers are Bears. Who do you fancy in that one?

1020
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 2: Or what are you going to be looking for?

1021
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,919
Speaker 6: Probably the Bears because the Packers haven't won a game

1022
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 6: since the game during which Michael Parsons suffered the torn

1023
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 6: ACL I think that took the air out of the balloon.

1024
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 6: The best chance for the Packers would be, in my opinion,

1025
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 6: have a Malik Willis package ready to go and use it.

1026
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 6: The Bears had trouble defending him. And if you've got

1027
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 6: both Jordan Love and Malik Willis and you're going to

1028
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 6: use both of them, you're going to maximize your chance

1029
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 6: to win the game. And if the Packers lose, I

1030
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,240
Speaker 6: don't rule out a coaching change there. You know, seven

1031
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:35,280
Speaker 6: teams called John Harbaugh's agent about him possibly joining their team.

1032
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 6: Only six vacancies are out there other than the Ravens.

1033
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 6: Somebody who currently has a coach called Brian Harland's son

1034
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:48,240
Speaker 6: of former Packers CEO Bob Harlan, and inquired and ed policy.

1035
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,399
Speaker 6: The current president of the Packers made it clear before

1036
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 6: the season. This is basically an upper out year from

1037
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 6: Att Lafleur, whose team has made it to the playoffs

1038
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 6: three straight years as the seventh seed. If they hadn't

1039
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 6: expanded the playoffs in twenty twenty, the Packers to be

1040
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 6: writing a four year streak of no playoffs. So this

1041
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 6: is one of those games that I think carries a

1042
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 6: potentially significant outcome for the Packers if they lose. But

1043
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 6: if they want to win this one, you got to

1044
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 6: get Malik Willis out there. This is their last stretch

1045
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 6: with the leak Willis. He ain't going to be there

1046
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 6: next year. He's going to be somebody's starter next year.

1047
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:20,399
Speaker 6: They should use him while they have him.

1048
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,720
Speaker 2: That was excellent, Have a great to enjoy the games,

1049
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:27,120
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1050
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