WEBVTT - Eddie & Rocky -- 10/20/25 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:03.240 Big time autumn, and not even the fun autumn yet 0:00:03.240 --> 0:00:06.040 because it's kind of like cold and rainy and wet 0:00:06.120 --> 0:00:09.039 and all that. But yeah, here we are. It's typical 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:13.119 this time, and before we know it, it'll be very 0:00:13.240 --> 0:00:16.680 very cold. But lots of news though here ed we 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:20.080 had planned on talking to our next guests about a 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:22.680 different topic. But kind of some breaking news here. 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:26.040 Around the run. Yeah, kind of brand new news all 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:30.160 the all. This been all this rigmarole going on about 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:33.840 frishes and Dollies and all of that stuff. And we've 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:37.720 talked to this fella here at Dan Monk from WCPO 0:00:37.880 --> 0:00:41.320 nine News I team many times about the Dolly situation, 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:44.560 and Dan Monk, first off, welcome back to the program. 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:46.559 What do we know? Apparently they're shutting all of the 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:47.240 Dollies down. 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:52.040 Yeah, six of them will be closed by October twenty third, 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:55.600 the company said in a press release today. And this 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:59.040 comes just a few weeks after we did that story 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:03.560 about how so few customers were in the parking lots 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:08.240 and in the stores at Dolly's restaurants. So this question 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:12.600 of whether Dolly's can take on Big Boy, I guess 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:13.360 has been answered. 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:18.080 They can't Big Boy one. Dolly's zero here. So I 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:20.920 mean did they give I assume the reason why, as 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:22.920 you said, just not enough people show it up. If 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:25.160 they released a statement saying anything. 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:29.039 All I said is that they thank the employees for 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:33.080 their hard work and know that it's just not something 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:35.520 they're going to be able to do. You know, when 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:38.720 they announced that they were coming into this market to 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:42.959 compete against Christia's Big Boy, they said they hoped to 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:47.080 open as many as fifty stores over two years, and 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:49.520 they never got it. I mean, six is the number 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:53.200 they got to. And so we've been hearing apart from 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:55.320 the fact that you know, to drive by the parking 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:59.720 lots and they're always empty, we've been hearing that the 0:01:59.840 --> 0:02:04.920 land that invited them in initially they said they were 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:08.359 going to do dozens of deals with this restaurant chain. 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:12.120 We've been hearing that they have wanted to take those 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:15.919 locations back because they weren't doing as well as had 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:18.959 been expected. I think that the deal they had early 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:20.920 on was that they were giving them a rent break, 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:23.120 and then on the back end they were It's just 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:25.120 they were they were going to get a percentage of 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:28.359 the revenue that they got, so they were I think 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:30.560 they were hoping that they would come in take the 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:33.480 market by storm and then you know, make money on 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:35.920 the back end and eventually end up with the same 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:38.799 amount of rent that Frishians would have paid them had 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:43.359 they not defaulted on their leases and got a victim. 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:46.640 So it was a it was kind of a gamble 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:49.799 by the Florida based landlord that owns all these locations. 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:51.639 And now I think you can look for all of them, 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:55.360 including the Fish's locations that are still closed, to be 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:59.320 sold to either other restaurants or you know, they're talking 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:03.200 about maybe selling the locations for car for car washes, 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:07.440 or it's you know, storage centers. You know, they'll take 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:11.639 any buyer. And the thing that Pusha's did really well 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:14.360 when it was, you know, in its heyday, was they 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:18.240 were great at picking locations. And these locations are still good, 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:20.679 whether there's a restaurant in them or not, a lot 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:25.639 of traffic and a lot of interest by potential owners, 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:29.280 people who want to lease that location for some other purpose. 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:33.640 And Dan, look, I'm not a restaurant tycoon here, but 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:36.320 I just felt like their rollout wasn't great, Like, you know, 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:39.880 they never really had a big promotional effort, you know, 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:41.640 not trying to make it about it. I mean I 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:45.520 never advertise on this station. There's never never explaining what 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:48.280 it was and what their goal was. You would hear 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:50.320 things in the news and we would talk about obviously 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:52.440 you would write about it, but there was never like 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:55.440 a definitive like this is what we are, this is 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:57.960 what we're trying to be. And as you would know 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:01.480 very well, Dan, Cincinnati is a very kind of loyal 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:04.640 to its past kind of place. And had they found 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:07.600 a way to kind of tie in. Boy that that 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:10.960 great burger with tartar sauce on it that you loved 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:12.920 as a kid, well now you can get it and 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:14.720 you know that kind of thing. I just didn't feel 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:18.039 like that the rollout was was done well. Do you 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:20.040 agree or disagree? 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:22.560 No, I agree that. I mean the only rollout they 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:26.320 had was public relations, and when they opened their first 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:29.560 couple of locations, you know, they got some media coverage 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:32.760 out of that. They didn't follow it up with advertising 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:36.120 or promotional offers, you know, buy one, get one kind 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:39.680 of deals or whatever. They didn't follow it up with 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:44.440 a lot of market presence, and you could see the 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:47.200 if you drove passed these locations. You know, for the 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:50.080 first couple of weeks, they were crowded, the parking lots 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:55.120 were full, but then after that they kind of people 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:58.320 lost interest and you could you could see that the 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:02.120 customers kind of away from those locations. You know. I 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:05.240 can remember just a few months after the Del High 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:08.880 location opened, I drove fashion was surprised by how few 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:12.160 cars there were in the parking lot. And then ultimately 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:14.080 when I did that story, I don't know, a month 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:16.760 or so ago, Uh, I went to Del High and 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:20.000 I found one car in the lot and one diner inside, 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:21.800 So weren't good. 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:24.560 We're talking to Dan Monk from the I team a 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:29.080 Channel nine, and Dan, from everything I heard, I got 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:32.400 the impression that the food and the service was you know, 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:35.719 kind of one point. But is it just was it 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:39.640 just as Rocky pointed out this area being so provincial, 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:42.880 you know that, did we just kind of turn our 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:45.680 back on him and just say it was almost like 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:48.520 you resented the fact that they were here. 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:53.719 Well, I mean it started out that way. The reviews 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:56.880 we got from people who were dining there the week 0:05:57.000 --> 0:06:01.840 or for first couple of weeks after they opened, they 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:05.520 thought the food was comparable to fishes. But by the end, 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:09.599 you know, I mentioned the Del High location. I talked 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:12.120 to a guy who was waiting in the in the 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:15.280 in the in the line for the drive through, and 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:17.880 he said he had trouble finding something to order. They 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:21.040 were out of so many things. So, you know, I 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:24.640 think that as the as people stayed away, the service 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:28.360 got worse. They lost employees. They didn't keep the original 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:31.600 employees that they hired when they opened these locations, and 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:34.760 they had plans to open a Bridge down location. They 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:40.320 never got there because after passing the health inspections to open, 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:43.560 they just never They never opened the restaurant. I don't 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:48.120 think they were fully staffed. So yeah, they had trouble operationally, 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:51.920 and I think the food quality went downhill this time 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:52.719 went on as well. 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:56.080 Damn Lung's our guest w c PO and Dan. So 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:59.599 what I know, there's still some fishes that are operating. 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:02.720 Their are privately owned, right, is this a window where 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:04.719 you know, hey, maybe these people are out there are 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:08.520 still craving a big boy type sandwich. Maybe some more 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:11.320 freshes people kind of dive into those or no. 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:13.280 I don't know. 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:15.800 They are privately owned, but they're effectively owned by the 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:19.920 same company, the Atlanta based company that owned them after 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:25.040 twenty twenty twenty fifteen. So it's really the same ownership 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:29.960 they have you know, operators who are different. They don't 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:33.320 have a commissary anymore. They buy their food, you know, 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:40.840 independently from food wholesalers, and so it's not necessarily the 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:44.600 same bushes as existed before. But there are still thirty 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:47.800 one locations open under the Fish's Big Boy name, and 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:51.560 ten of those locations are in Greater are in Cincinnati, 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:52.920 the Cincinnati. 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:56.080 All right with that, Dan, we will let you go. Buddy, 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:58.840 Thanks for switching gears with us and talking about this 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:03.480 as we discuss. This is brand new news, so thanks. 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:05.960 So much, thank you. 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:09.000 Thanks our good friend Dan Monk from the IT team 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:11.640 on Channel nine. And I still had never never eaten 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:15.600 out of dollars. Yeah, I think I saw, I saw 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:18.440 one or two. I don't remember where they were at. 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:23.840 But you know what, why can't fishes bring start kind 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:27.080 of I mean, not start over. Obviously you have a 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:30.960 name to build on, but dumb it down, man, Let 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:34.000 go of the dinners and all that stuff. Make it 0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:37.400 back to what we all remember. Buddy boys, big boys blah, 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:41.920 blah blah, fish sandwiches, fish sandwich at Boom and rings. 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:44.520 Kind of the the in and out burger model. They 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:49.320 do burgers, do shakes, do fries. Yeah, and just kind 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:51.439 of own that sort of thing. Yeah, I think it 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:53.960 certainly could work. People love those sandwiches a running. I 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:57.320 just see the dollars things. They never never marketed it, 0:08:57.400 --> 0:09:00.880 never known. People kind of really knew again what their 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:03.880 goal was other than kind of be like fishes but 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:08.480 not enough to get sued kind of thing. Honestly, that's 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:10.199 kind of what it felt like to me, is like, well, 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:13.200 we're fishes, but yeah we're not really big boys, but 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:15.920 we're gonna serve big boys. We're not gonna come. It's weird. 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:18.800 Yeah, it was like, we're not fishers. What are you 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:20.480 talking about? Big boys on our name? 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:22.280 But if you want frishes in here. 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:27.079 Yeah, well we're a lot like fishes. Well we're not fishes. 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:29.560 Let's take in with traffic and weather. 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:30.400 What is going on? 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:35.160 You see Health Traffic Center, Mamma Graham Saved Lives called 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:37.800 five one three, five eight four Pink schedule your annual 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:40.840 Mamma Graham with you See Health Sexpert Team five one 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:44.000 three five eight four pink breakdown on seventy one north 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:45.880 bound of Ronald Reagan Cross County high was off on 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:48.839 the right hand shoulder cruiser there and a breakdown on 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:51.120 the ramp of seventy five northbound the off ramp to 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:53.880 Buttermilk Pike in Kentucky just reported as well. We've got 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:58.080 observatory at Michigan Avenue and Westwood between White and Quebec 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:01.079 with accident's police getting those takes care of. 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Let's start with five, right, and then maybe 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:24.559 we'll make it ten and then no, we're fifty. 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:27.960 So they no marketing, no nothing, no rollout. 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:28.280 Yeah. 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:30.920 So if you didn't hear it, they got to six 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:32.400 and now they're closing all. 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:32.760 Yeah. 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:37.320 I've never been to one. I now wish I would 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:38.480 have gone one. I was serious. 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:40.680 If it was the first hand account, Well, let's stalk 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:42.840 to a guy who I believe was there. Hey, Chris 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:44.520 and blue Ash, what did you think of it? 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:49.320 I you know, I was specifically addressing the frishes that 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:52.040 were still open. I've been to a Dolly's and it 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:53.880 was the same kind of response. 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:55.119 Different food, suppliers. 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:57.959 So from what I understand, one in Eastgate ran out 0:11:58.000 --> 0:11:59.800 of food as well because they were waiting to run 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:03.160 out of the existing supplies. And then when the new 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:06.120 wholesalers started bringing in the new food like this. I mean, 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:08.800 I'm six two two forty. I like my breakfast bars. 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:14.760 Seeing you walk in, dude. 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:18.960 See the sausage and gravy, you know, some of their staples, 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:20.760 the biscuits and gravy, stuff like that were just not 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:21.560 even close. 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:25.080 And I never went back. So yeah, the foods players 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:26.240 definitely changed everything. 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:26.720 Yeah. 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:29.120 Again, Look, you can point to all kinds of different 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:32.160 things about why it didn't work, but for a restaurant, 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:35.040 at the top of the list must be the food's 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:37.880 gotta be good. Right, There's all kinds of other things 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:40.320 you gotta consider, but the damn it, the food's gotta 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:42.160 be good. And maybe that's wasn't the case. 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:45.199 Amen. Yeah, all right, you guys, Yeah, thank. 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:45.760 You, thanks Chris. 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:46.520 Yeah. 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:49.800 See, I think a lot of people and rightfully, I 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:52.640 guess rightfully so, but I think it's human nature. You 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:54.920 kind of would walk into one of those places with 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:57.720 a chip on your shoulder. All right, you're taking over 0:12:57.800 --> 0:12:59.440 the thing that I grew up on and I always 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:02.360 love first is you better be amazing, right, this better 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:04.440 be worth it. And then you go in there and like, ah, 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:05.120 that sucks. 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:10.040 Well, to your point, Cincinnati folks already walk in that 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:13.880 place going oh, this place is gonna suck, right, so 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:16.600 you gotta be that much better to be like, wow, Okay, 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:19.400 I didn't. I should have given these guys a better shot, 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:21.520 and that wasn't what was happening. 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:23.600 You needed to really kick ass, knock it off. 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:25.760 And but to your point, if if you just specialize 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:28.160 in like one, even if like the early roll out is, hey, 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:31.520 we may ask some menu items, but we know YOUU Cincinnatians. 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:34.360 You love big boys and super big boys and and 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:37.400 fish sandwiches and all that. That's what we're gonna hit. 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:39.840 And we're gonna run specials and that's what we're gonna do. 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:40.280 Let's go. 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:46.160 I'm gonna worked, see I man, I used to go, well, 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:48.600 there was a when I first moved to town. I 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:50.959 lived in the Clifton area. There was the fishes there 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:53.400 on Short Vine. I went there all the time. 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:54.600 Uh. 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:57.720 Then I moved up north of town. There was one 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:00.440 in Montgomery. I used to go to all the time, 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:05.480 and those are long gone. But I just noticed over 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:07.480 the course of time, by the time wh kids we 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:09.959 used to take them to the breakfast bar, right, and 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:13.520 you know, and and I just noticed that it was 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:17.640 like the help wasn't didn't do it anymore, and the 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:19.120 food quality was. 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:21.880 Man, well, then that's what started the whole thing is, yeah, 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:27.360 just the food quality dropped. And again that that's the 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:29.120 number one thing you must go back to as a 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:31.760 restaurant owner. Is our food good. Okay, we got all 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:33.600 our fires, we got to put out and things we 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:35.440 got to consider, but is our food good? And if 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:36.400 it's no, then. 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:38.880 Well, coming up at four o'clock, we got our old 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:43.000 buddy Nick Neanaka's was a restaurant expert, and he's going 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:44.440 to talk about this very style. 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:47.320 And you know, to be fair, that is probably the 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:50.920 issue is to make food good. The price is he's 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:56.320 got to be exorbitantly high, because even decent food, all right, 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:59.640 or bad food is expensive these days. And yeah, that's 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:01.320 what we're get into a nicke at four o'clock. 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:05.560 Yeah, I remember when well because I'm old, but going 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:08.200 out and getting a nice meal, man, you could go out, 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:12.080 get yourself a couple of cocktails, a little wine, nice 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:15.160 couple of steaks and stuff, you know, lay down a 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:18.360 nice tip. It'd be a little over one hundred bucks. 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:22.360 Maybe you kidding me. You can't go to like freaking 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:24.880 you know what you talked about going out and it 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:26.840 was one hundred bucks when we're taking your kids out to. 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:30.640 Chili establishment and it's you know, yeah, it's sixty bucks 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:33.000 for a family of five with you know, two of 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:33.760 them little kids. 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:34.400 Yeah. 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:36.560 Coming up, we're going to be talking to our good 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:40.680 friend Dave had Or about this weird Internet shut down 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:42.800 thing that happened the cloud. 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:45.320 Which I don't understand, but uh, all I know is 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:50.240 we live in this world where people expect immediate instantaneous 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:52.720 access to the Internet, and all of a sudden there 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:54.760 were some issues and it was a problem. 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:56.120 Yeah, I will. 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:59.240 I will cop to the fact that one day I 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:02.120 got up and looked at me and I'm just I 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:04.280 always just flip up my pad and sit dur and 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:07.560 drink a cup of coffee, just looking like the Inquiry website. 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:11.560 And she goes, do you have the Internet that's not 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:12.120 popping up? 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:12.520 What's going on? 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:14.760 She goes, I don't know. Mine went out so we 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:15.720 just sat third kind of. 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:17.280 Staring at what do we do? 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:18.720 How's this? 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:20.960 We gotta talk to each other. 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:25.240 Damn that I need something to talk about. We got 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:28.400 the news now News Radio seven hundred WLW. 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:35.640 News Traffic and Weather. News Radio seven hundred w l W, Cincinnati. 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:38.480 He seven victor bond for the man police who police 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:41.280 say shot and injured two people in Fountain Square with 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:44.280 the three point thirty report. 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But this 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:04.560 was yours was Saturday night, right, this was last night. 0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:05.000 Yeah. 0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:06.720 I don't know if it was weather, or if it 0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:09.200 was just the fact it was United Airlines or just 0:21:09.240 --> 0:21:10.760 the fact that I was flying out of DC. 0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:15.560 But anyway, well, let's talk about this event that happened 0:21:15.640 --> 0:21:19.600 last night with our good friend Dave Hatter. So, Dave, 0:21:20.320 --> 0:21:23.159 this web service of the cloud, the Amazon Cloud go 0:21:23.840 --> 0:21:26.280 explain because Rocky and I were talking. Neither of us 0:21:26.359 --> 0:21:28.879 know what the cloud is. We've heard of it, we 0:21:28.960 --> 0:21:29.639 don't know what it is. 0:21:30.880 --> 0:21:33.160 You know, guys, in the most basic terms, the cloud 0:21:33.280 --> 0:21:35.720 is really just someone else's computer. So that you going 0:21:35.760 --> 0:21:39.600 out and buying a computer aka server to run some 0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:43.960 kind of service on, think printer sharing, file sharing, whatever. Said. 0:21:44.000 --> 0:21:47.440 If you having that infrastructure yourself, you're outsourcing it to 0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:50.040 someone else. That's a little more complicated than that, of course, 0:21:50.080 --> 0:21:53.320 but in the most basic terms, you're just based offloading 0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:57.640 outsourcing services to someone else. And in this case, Amazon 0:21:57.720 --> 0:22:00.439 Web Services. A lot of people don't realize how much 0:22:00.520 --> 0:22:03.159 Amazon is into, you know, a long time ago, to 0:22:03.280 --> 0:22:07.160 support a lot of their own initiatives, including their Amazon website, 0:22:07.680 --> 0:22:11.320 they developed something called Amazon Web Services and it's the 0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:16.600 cloud based platform that you can purchase resources from. So again, 0:22:16.720 --> 0:22:19.080 rather than you buying a server or run a database 0:22:19.160 --> 0:22:21.480 on and buying a server or run your ERP system, 0:22:21.640 --> 0:22:23.919 Nitor or whatever you might need to do for your business, 0:22:24.600 --> 0:22:28.360 just about anything you could possibly provide for yourself, either 0:22:28.520 --> 0:22:31.520 by building yourself or buying software from someone like a 0:22:31.600 --> 0:22:34.480 Microsoft or someone and running it on your own devices 0:22:34.560 --> 0:22:35.240 like you would. 0:22:35.000 --> 0:22:36.320 Have Let's say twenty years ago. 0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:40.359 You can dump that into Amazon Web Services, and a 0:22:40.400 --> 0:22:42.720 lot of people have done that. From recent stats I 0:22:42.800 --> 0:22:46.879 saw it looks like about thirty percent of other cloud 0:22:46.920 --> 0:22:50.159 based services, things that you might use like Venmo or 0:22:50.280 --> 0:22:50.399 you know. 0:22:50.520 --> 0:22:52.600 I saw some headlines here that apparently. 0:22:52.280 --> 0:22:54.800 Some airlines were affected by this. A lot of companies 0:22:55.359 --> 0:22:59.919 have outsourced their services and capabilities into Amazon Web Services, 0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:03.280 so just like they might Microsoft. Right, Microsoft has some 0:23:03.359 --> 0:23:06.280 of the called Azure, Google has Google Cloud. They're the 0:23:06.359 --> 0:23:10.280 three big players, So most businesses that would outsource some 0:23:10.480 --> 0:23:13.080 type of services are using one of those three. And 0:23:13.160 --> 0:23:15.680 you can see just how big Amazon Web Services is 0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:18.920 by the sheer volume of outages today. I mean, you know, 0:23:19.040 --> 0:23:21.840 all kinds of different services, not just Amazon services, like 0:23:21.840 --> 0:23:25.880 apparently ring doorbells were down, which really, you know, hurts 0:23:25.920 --> 0:23:27.600 my feeling. Guys, you know how much I allow to 0:23:27.640 --> 0:23:31.080 be Internet things anyway, But you can see how big 0:23:31.160 --> 0:23:34.200 this impact was by the sheer number of different services 0:23:34.240 --> 0:23:36.680 that were down. And this also really gets to the 0:23:36.760 --> 0:23:39.040 heart of third party risk, which ironically, I just did 0:23:39.080 --> 0:23:42.920 a presentation on Friday. The idea that as I outsource 0:23:43.040 --> 0:23:46.480 more of my services and capabilities for my business or 0:23:46.560 --> 0:23:49.639 my organization to a third party to provide that if 0:23:49.680 --> 0:23:52.719 it goes down, well, that impacts me. So it's been 0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:54.800 a wild day, and you know, it looks like things 0:23:54.840 --> 0:23:57.200 are mostly back from what I can tell, but it 0:23:57.240 --> 0:23:59.320 looks like there were also some false starts along the way. 0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:03.359 So what exactly happened then to Amazon web server? Was 0:24:03.400 --> 0:24:07.440 it hacked? Was it an operator error sort of situation? 0:24:07.600 --> 0:24:08.000 What was it? 0:24:09.640 --> 0:24:13.840 Well, so far I haven't seen anyone that's reporting there 0:24:13.920 --> 0:24:17.840 was any hacking, it looks like. And so one of 0:24:17.880 --> 0:24:21.199 the reasons why people with outsource right is you can 0:24:21.240 --> 0:24:24.160 do things at scale much more quickly and much less expensively. 0:24:24.240 --> 0:24:26.439 Now you are paying a subscription service when you use 0:24:26.560 --> 0:24:29.479 these tools, and you know, depending on how you use 0:24:29.520 --> 0:24:32.040 it and how much resources you consume, it could ultimately 0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:34.919 be more expensive in the long run. But generally speaking, 0:24:34.960 --> 0:24:36.800 if you just want to quote spin out the server 0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:40.240 real fast, it's fast and easy to do this. And 0:24:40.359 --> 0:24:43.080 they have multiple data centers, so you have some redundancy. 0:24:43.160 --> 0:24:46.200 The idea that it's data center A goes down, data 0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:49.280 center B takes over, and your stuff keeps working. Obviously 0:24:49.400 --> 0:24:51.639 that didn't work as well today as it perhaps it 0:24:51.680 --> 0:24:54.800 could have. But it looks like in their US East 0:24:54.880 --> 0:24:57.879 one region data centers they have some outage. Again, it 0:24:57.960 --> 0:25:01.040 does not appear to be hacked from what I can tell, 0:25:01.200 --> 0:25:03.880 although you know, guys, we've talked about this a lot 0:25:04.000 --> 0:25:07.680 over the years, and sometimes after more due diligence is done, 0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:09.960 more forensics are done, you find out that whatever the 0:25:10.040 --> 0:25:14.040 initial reporting on something was is not what actually happened. 0:25:14.600 --> 0:25:16.520 But it looks like, and without getting too nerdy on 0:25:16.560 --> 0:25:19.280 it is something called DNS, the Main Name System. It's 0:25:19.280 --> 0:25:23.760 a way to resolve an English like name like seven 0:25:23.840 --> 0:25:26.960 hundred WLW dot com to the IP address that makes 0:25:27.000 --> 0:25:29.760 it possible to find something on the Internet. From what 0:25:29.840 --> 0:25:31.520 I could tell, it looks like there were some DNS 0:25:31.640 --> 0:25:35.679 issues that knocked out Dynamo dB, which is a database 0:25:36.280 --> 0:25:39.000 that a lot of people use when they're on Amazon 0:25:39.080 --> 0:25:41.639 Web Services. And then that just started sort of a 0:25:41.720 --> 0:25:44.520 cascading effect of knocking other things off. And then it 0:25:44.600 --> 0:25:46.879 looks like, you know, you can go to Amazon and 0:25:46.920 --> 0:25:48.800 then for what it's worth, if you're a business out there, 0:25:48.840 --> 0:25:51.200 whether it's Amazon or Microsoft or Google you might be 0:25:51.359 --> 0:25:54.840 using for some part of your business. They all have 0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:57.399 dashboards you can go to and try to understand like 0:25:57.520 --> 0:26:00.200 what is happening when these things go down? So do 0:26:00.240 --> 0:26:03.000 you go to the Amazon Service health dashboard. They kind 0:26:03.040 --> 0:26:05.879 of give you an ongoing log if you will, of 0:26:05.960 --> 0:26:08.359 what's been done over time. But it looks like that 0:26:08.520 --> 0:26:11.840 caused some cascading errors. And then as that went down, 0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:15.040 that started to knock off other people like Zoom, Slack, Canva, 0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:20.600 Roadblocks and other cloud based services that you would think 0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:23.840 would be their own service, but they're actually using Amazon 0:26:23.960 --> 0:26:27.240 Web Services in the back end to support. 0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:29.359 Whatever offering they're providing to you. Again, it gives you, 0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:30.679 It shows. 0:26:30.440 --> 0:26:33.879 You just how prevalent third party risk is as we 0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:36.240 rely more and more on all these digital services. And 0:26:36.280 --> 0:26:37.720 that it's where I forget. The one thing that this 0:26:37.840 --> 0:26:41.080 really shows guys, and I know you guys will dig this. 0:26:41.640 --> 0:26:44.720 Think how awesome would be if we had this awesome 0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:47.479 digital ID from the government to control everything you did 0:26:47.600 --> 0:26:50.560 and everything you bought when a system like this went down, 0:26:50.560 --> 0:26:52.800 because apparently it knocked some of those out as well 0:26:53.240 --> 0:26:55.119 around the world. Think how awesome it would be if 0:26:55.160 --> 0:26:57.359 you couldn't buy anything or really do anything because your 0:26:57.400 --> 0:27:00.600 digital ID was down because of some sort of Again, 0:27:00.680 --> 0:27:02.760 what appears to be just an error. At this point. 0:27:03.119 --> 0:27:05.480 Now we're entering matrix territory, and I like it. 0:27:06.520 --> 0:27:07.000 I'm with you. 0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:11.280 There's other countries like that. They write that. I mean 0:27:11.359 --> 0:27:14.200 in China for instance, that isn't like like the currency 0:27:14.359 --> 0:27:17.920 kind of controlled and it's all online and there's you know, 0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:20.200 certain times you can buy this and other times you 0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:22.040 can't buy that. Am I incorrect in saying this? 0:27:23.400 --> 0:27:25.760 Yeah, like your social credit score and so forth. And 0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:28.960 here's the guy on X James Melville, spot the problem 0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:31.480 with a mandate toorre digital ID controlled by the government, 0:27:31.880 --> 0:27:34.000 and he has a screenshot of gov dot UK, the 0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:38.720 government gateway, with it being down, presumably because of Amazon 0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:42.080 Web Services dn M. So yeah, you know, I am 0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:45.280 fundamentally against digital ID for any number of reasons, not 0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:47.720 the least of which is whether it's some sort of 0:27:47.920 --> 0:27:50.960 error in the services that make it possible or some 0:27:51.160 --> 0:27:54.560 sort of attack by an adversarial nation state like China. 0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:57.239 And imagine if you could knock that out, and then 0:27:57.280 --> 0:27:59.800 imagine that you could knock it out for days or weeks, 0:28:01.119 --> 0:28:03.159 the chaos and the problems. 0:28:02.760 --> 0:28:03.440 That that would cause. 0:28:03.520 --> 0:28:06.240 So again, at this point, guys, it does not appear 0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:08.479 to be hacking. There's no indication of that. No one 0:28:08.600 --> 0:28:11.440 is reporting that. Amazon of course is you know, pretty 0:28:11.520 --> 0:28:14.199 much said that, you know, it was a DNS problem 0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:16.399 that caused Dynamo dB to go down, and then that 0:28:16.520 --> 0:28:19.520 started to knock other services off, and then they had 0:28:19.560 --> 0:28:22.000 to do multiple fixes along the way to get everything 0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:24.120 back up. And again, from what I can tell from 0:28:24.280 --> 0:28:28.119 the most current reporting I could find, most services are 0:28:28.240 --> 0:28:32.439 back now. But this really should be a wake up 0:28:32.520 --> 0:28:35.600 call to everyone that's out there again about the idea 0:28:35.600 --> 0:28:37.600 of third party risk if you're just going out and 0:28:37.680 --> 0:28:39.560 signing up for the first thing you find, if you're 0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:42.880 not doing any betting, because again, Amazon Web Services, if 0:28:42.920 --> 0:28:44.840 you're in the business like me, they're one of the 0:28:45.080 --> 0:28:47.960 eight hundred pound earlists there Again, roughly thirty percent of 0:28:48.040 --> 0:28:51.840 the entire Internet is ultimately supplied by. 0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:53.080 Amazon Web Services. 0:28:53.120 --> 0:28:56.680 That you will you know, the idea that you as 0:28:56.720 --> 0:29:00.000 a business need to have your business working and available 0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:03.560 around the clock or whatever. If you're not carefully vetting 0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:05.760 these services, you know, what do you think the mom 0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:09.120 and pop shop down the street is capable of versus 0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:11.960 someone like Amazon, who is raking in billions of dollars 0:29:12.000 --> 0:29:14.720 a year just from Amazon Web Services alone. I mean, 0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:17.240 if you dig into their revenue stream, you'll see if 0:29:17.280 --> 0:29:20.200 AWS isn't number one, it's near the top of the 0:29:20.240 --> 0:29:24.080 way they produce revenue with Amazon. So it's a powerful 0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:27.120 and important capability for them and then also for all 0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:30.040 of the people that rely on it to provide their services. Again, 0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:33.200 I'm just reading some headlines the Zoom Slack canva. I 0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:37.400 think United Airlines many other businesses were impacted by this today. 0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:40.040 Well and Dave, We've talked about this a lot, but 0:29:40.080 --> 0:29:41.880 I feel like it comes back to the same issue, 0:29:41.880 --> 0:29:44.560 and that is, especially when it comes to tech, people 0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:46.760 don't know how it works. They don't want to know 0:29:46.840 --> 0:29:49.120 how it works. They just want to work all the 0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:52.520 time and expect that it's going to work. 0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:52.959 Right. 0:29:53.200 --> 0:29:57.800 So, I guess what is the going forward? Do you 0:29:57.880 --> 0:30:01.240 see this happening more or or? I mean, you know, 0:30:01.480 --> 0:30:03.520 most people don't know how to open up their own 0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:06.000 server and do all that. Other's like, hell, well that's 0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:09.440 way over my head. I'll just pay Amazon to do that. 0:30:09.760 --> 0:30:11.480 And I guess that can get you in trouble. 0:30:13.280 --> 0:30:15.720 Well, you know, that's a good question, Rocky. Do I 0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:18.240 think there'll be more of this? I think potentially there 0:30:18.280 --> 0:30:21.200 will now again, these guys are at the top of 0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:23.480 the heap in terms of their capabilities and so forth, 0:30:23.600 --> 0:30:26.120 and it'll be really interesting over the next few days 0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:29.640 to get a more after action report or post mortem, 0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:33.640 if you will, over what really happened. Once the dust 0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:36.560 kind of settles around this and the services are back 0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:39.880 online and you know, you can build redundancy. It's one 0:30:39.880 --> 0:30:41.760 of the things we preach all the time at interest 0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:45.200 to customers to think about resiliency is what is an 0:30:45.240 --> 0:30:47.520 outage in downtime going to do to your business? You know, 0:30:47.600 --> 0:30:49.680 can you withstand not being able to operate for a 0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:53.120 day or two days or a week, Because if you're 0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:56.120 willing to spend enough money, you know, you can almost 0:30:56.240 --> 0:30:58.560 always build a system that will give you what we 0:30:58.720 --> 0:31:01.320 nerds like to call five of uptime. I mean, it's like, 0:31:01.400 --> 0:31:04.280 you know, it's it's up almost one hundred percent of 0:31:04.360 --> 0:31:06.960 the time, but that gets really expensive and you know 0:31:07.240 --> 0:31:10.560 it may not necessarily be warranted. I think, you know. 0:31:10.760 --> 0:31:13.800 When Again, the key thing I would encourage everyone that's 0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:16.680 out there to think about, is okay third party risk 0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:18.800 when I sign up for some cloud based service for 0:31:18.920 --> 0:31:22.320 whatever reason, if it's mission critical to my business. You know, 0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:24.920 what is the backup plan? What does an outage mean 0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:28.040 for me? Can I spend more money and get more services? 0:31:28.240 --> 0:31:28.480 Again? 0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:30.760 This is pro if you think about it. When's the 0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:33.400 last time you heard about an outage of this scale? 0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:35.800 And the last time I can remember was when CrowdStrike 0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:38.440 caused an outage and that was not a cloud based thing. 0:31:38.560 --> 0:31:42.400 That was an essentially an anti virus agent that went 0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:44.160 bad and you know, knocked out a bunch of the 0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:47.440 Windows computers that it was running on. So, you know, 0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:49.880 I think there is the potential to see more at 0:31:49.920 --> 0:31:52.200 this because more and more people rely on these days. 0:31:52.720 --> 0:31:55.080 And my real concern about all this has always been 0:31:55.720 --> 0:32:00.320 until we get serious as a society about buildings that 0:32:00.440 --> 0:32:05.160 are resilient and robust and are very difficult, if not impossible, 0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:08.120 to knock out and obviously nothing is it possible? As 0:32:08.160 --> 0:32:10.040 we rely more and more of this stuff, guys, you know, 0:32:10.200 --> 0:32:13.440 the societal risk continues to grow. That's why we need 0:32:13.520 --> 0:32:18.360 things like the Cybersegerity and infrastructure security agencies, Secure by 0:32:18.480 --> 0:32:22.880 Design IDEA and software bill of materials so you understand 0:32:23.000 --> 0:32:26.080 what you're signing up for and have some visibility into 0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:29.720 these services and transparency as opposed to you just hope 0:32:29.720 --> 0:32:32.360 it doesn't go out. And again, this doesn't happen very often, 0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:36.080 but when it does happen, it causes a lot of chaos. 0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:39.320 And again, imagine if you were digital IDs were all 0:32:39.360 --> 0:32:41.600 connected to this and that system just went down and 0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:45.120 you basically were cut off. What a bad idea that 0:32:45.200 --> 0:32:47.320 would be and how unfortunate. 0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:48.000 That would be for society. 0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:53.240 So essentially, yes, we don't need digital idea. It's a 0:32:53.360 --> 0:32:56.880 terrible idea, you know, central bank, digital currency, all these things. 0:32:57.400 --> 0:32:59.800 It's a bad idea for many reasons. But this outage, 0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:04.040 just in the last day shows you how how catastrophic. 0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:03.840 Did it be. 0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:06.800 And now imagine if it turns out this was some 0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:09.600 sort of nation state actor like China or Russia that 0:33:09.720 --> 0:33:12.360 caused this, And imagine if they wouldn't have been able 0:33:12.440 --> 0:33:15.240 to Again, assuming it's all fixed, and that what I 0:33:15.280 --> 0:33:17.320 can tell, it looks like most everything is back. Now 0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:21.000 this went on for days or couldn't be fixed for weeks. 0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:25.280 The kind of chaos this would cause. All right, well, uh, 0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:30.840 it's it's not just games like roadblocks, it's United airlines, 0:33:30.840 --> 0:33:32.719 it's all kinds of things. So anyway, I'll shut up. 0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:39.040 I see before like my son's uh with their if 0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:41.840 their game access goes down, that is a natural, uh 0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:46.680 national catastrophe with the with that day. We will let 0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:47.840 you go, buddy, thanks so much. 0:33:49.000 --> 0:33:50.160 I always want to pleasure guys. 0:33:50.200 --> 0:33:55.280 Thanks Dave had He and yeah, big deal. It didn't 0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:58.680 affect me at all, but obviously it affected a lot 0:33:58.680 --> 0:33:59.040 of people. 0:33:59.120 --> 0:33:59.239 Man. 0:33:59.600 --> 0:34:03.480 It's again, it's just one of those things people don't 0:34:03.920 --> 0:34:06.400 give a damn how it works. It just needs to work. 0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:09.520 I mean electricity, I mean, do you know exactly how electricity? No, 0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:12.160 but when you flip that switch, it better go on 0:34:12.400 --> 0:34:14.320 or you're all kinds of upset. That's kind of the 0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:18.359 same thing, but like a little more complicated. And there's 0:34:18.440 --> 0:34:21.000 clouds and there's servers, and there's all this other. 0:34:21.120 --> 0:34:23.040 Stuff with that. 0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:25.360 I don't even know how this is a microphone works. 0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:30.600 But let's let's see. Rick has the traffic for us. 0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:34.080 It's the magic of radius. 0:34:33.800 --> 0:34:38.600 The magic of radius. They're an old ad campaign like that, 0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:43.040 the magic. Yeah, we're magical unicorns here. 0:34:43.960 --> 0:34:46.960 That's exactly what we keep telling ourselves, you know, with 0:34:47.080 --> 0:34:49.920 that digital idea. The only thing I hear is another 0:34:50.000 --> 0:34:52.960 password I gotta remember I don't need that. I mean, 0:34:53.040 --> 0:34:54.719 for the love of God, got enough. 0:34:54.960 --> 0:34:57.080 Yeah, that that is annoying. 0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:03.040 I just got up. Why I'm just I'm sorry interrupt, 0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:05.760 but I just got a Literally, as I was walking 0:35:05.800 --> 0:35:08.439 into the office, I got a text from a number 0:35:08.520 --> 0:35:11.279 in Oklahoma asking me if I went in Mexican Food 0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:16.560 tonight for dinner. 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Best Products, 0:36:54.719 --> 0:36:56.200 Best Price, the first time. 0:36:56.440 --> 0:37:03.600 Enforcing tough menu choices, the call, overhead costs, you know, inflation, marketing, 0:37:03.840 --> 0:37:07.600 hiring runner restaurant man. I tell you, I used to 0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:09.560 think that that was something I would have wanted to do. 0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:11.839 Uh huh, No, not not at all. And I think 0:37:11.840 --> 0:37:14.000 a lot of it all stemmed back to COVID and 0:37:14.120 --> 0:37:17.120 just how how much everyone was lied to and all 0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:19.520 the dumb things they put in place. But it drove 0:37:19.640 --> 0:37:23.279 prices through the roof it. You know, I never heard 0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:26.719 the term supply chain issue more during that time, and 0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:29.440 I think you continue to hear it. But you know, 0:37:29.560 --> 0:37:31.800 it's certainly tough for these guys to own restaurants. I 0:37:32.040 --> 0:37:34.480 definitely feel for them. But at the end of the day, 0:37:34.719 --> 0:37:38.040 you're not in this to provide free food. You're into 0:37:38.120 --> 0:37:40.000 This is a business, and you got to make some 0:37:40.120 --> 0:37:42.000 money off of it. But it's getting tougher and tougher 0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:44.440 because those prices just kind of keep rising. 0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:48.640 Well, it says here, blah blah blah blah. The basic 0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:52.120 math is whatever product you have, you should divide by three, 0:37:52.239 --> 0:37:55.120 and that's what the product should cost to the consumer 0:37:55.200 --> 0:37:58.360 to operate at a healthy margin. If the prices continue 0:37:58.360 --> 0:38:00.880 to increase. There's only so much that could consumer is 0:38:01.000 --> 0:38:03.600 going to be willing to pay. And as you and 0:38:03.680 --> 0:38:06.160 I were talking, it seems to me it wasn't all 0:38:06.239 --> 0:38:08.480 that long ago you could go out and get a 0:38:08.680 --> 0:38:12.640 really good meal for one hundred bucks. Now going out 0:38:12.719 --> 0:38:16.719 and getting a decent meal is going to be one 0:38:16.800 --> 0:38:17.440 hundred dollars. 0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:20.520 Yea easy, that's where we're at. Yeah, and a just 0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:22.520 kind of an average meal. Hey, we just want to 0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:24.759 get some of our bellies and get on with it 0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:26.320 is becoming expensive. 0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:29.680 Well, let's talk to our expert in these matters. 0:38:29.800 --> 0:38:30.200 He is. 0:38:30.840 --> 0:38:34.120 He heads up the franchise consulting company, the Great American 0:38:34.200 --> 0:38:38.319 Franchise Expo. He's author of the franchise NBA. He's been 0:38:38.400 --> 0:38:40.319 with us many times. I always love talking to our 0:38:40.360 --> 0:38:43.000 good friend Nick. NEI and acas Nick, welcome. 0:38:42.760 --> 0:38:46.000 Back, Hey Eddie, Hey Rochie. Great to be back. 0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:48.360 So Nick, how long Rock and I are? We just 0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:51.879 talking about how how is this sustainable for these guys. 0:38:53.680 --> 0:38:56.960 It's a tough, tough corner of the economy right now, 0:38:57.040 --> 0:38:59.719 and it really has been since the pandemic. No, you 0:38:59.840 --> 0:39:04.160 have all these massive shocks that got crammed in just 0:39:04.239 --> 0:39:11.240 a couple of months. I mean from labor to you know, food, transportation, energy, 0:39:11.400 --> 0:39:14.719 I mean, everything really hit and you know fully but 0:39:14.840 --> 0:39:16.920 surely we start climbing out of it, and then it's 0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:17.799 like whack a mole. 0:39:18.360 --> 0:39:21.840 Right, So now food costs continue to go up and 0:39:22.280 --> 0:39:22.840 you nailed it. 0:39:22.960 --> 0:39:25.000 I mean, at some point, how can you afford to 0:39:25.080 --> 0:39:28.520 take a family of four or you know, five or 0:39:28.680 --> 0:39:31.920 six out to eat if it's gonna be you know, 0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:34.640 thirty bucks ahead, forty bucks ahead. 0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:38.440 And Nick, let me ask you this, is there like 0:39:38.520 --> 0:39:41.080 a magic number in terms of a profit margin that 0:39:41.160 --> 0:39:43.920 most restaurants are trying to hit. You know what I mean, 0:39:44.040 --> 0:39:49.120 if if to buy the ingredients for that cheeseburger cost x, 0:39:49.239 --> 0:39:50.719 we're trying to we need to mark it up to 0:39:50.800 --> 0:39:53.160 be able to make this to just kind of keep 0:39:53.200 --> 0:39:55.360 the lights on and turn some kind of profit. 0:39:56.760 --> 0:40:02.160 Yeah, you know traditional margins and restaurant world, we're about 0:40:02.440 --> 0:40:07.040 twenty five to thirty three percent should be your food costs. Right, 0:40:07.160 --> 0:40:09.840 So if you buy something for a buck, triple it, 0:40:10.480 --> 0:40:14.200 then you're going to have labor overhead and you should 0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:18.040 get a profit, a net profit in your pocket that's going. 0:40:18.000 --> 0:40:21.520 To be in the low teens to mid teens. 0:40:21.760 --> 0:40:24.960 Right, This is never a technology we're going to make 0:40:25.000 --> 0:40:28.640 eighty six percent on our margin, you know, or medical 0:40:28.840 --> 0:40:30.840 you know, or sometimes it could be crazy. 0:40:31.480 --> 0:40:31.640 You know. 0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:35.160 This is honest business where people are saying for every 0:40:35.200 --> 0:40:38.000 one hundred dollars that I sell, I'm going to get 0:40:38.080 --> 0:40:39.759 ten or twelve dollars for me. 0:40:40.960 --> 0:40:43.919 That sounds very much, Mark, I would say that's tos's tight. 0:40:44.239 --> 0:40:46.239 There's a lot of work. These folks are going through 0:40:46.280 --> 0:40:50.279 and busting their butts, uh in having high prices just 0:40:50.400 --> 0:40:54.799 to get a ten percent. That's that's rough, right, Well, that's. 0:40:54.680 --> 0:40:56.560 Why you're seeing a lot of restaurants close up. 0:40:57.680 --> 0:41:00.080 Yeah, and it seems more and more, Nick And what 0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:02.480 can you say about that as far as the business goes, 0:41:02.560 --> 0:41:05.600 because I've seen a lot of businesses or a lot 0:41:05.640 --> 0:41:08.120 of restaurants around here that are closing. Now, we just 0:41:08.200 --> 0:41:12.120 found out that the big chain here that came into well, 0:41:12.120 --> 0:41:15.520 they're supposed to supplant fishes here, the Big Boy chain 0:41:16.080 --> 0:41:18.719 with the Dolly's chain. I'm sure you're familiar with them 0:41:18.719 --> 0:41:19.320 out of Michigan. 0:41:19.360 --> 0:41:20.000 I believe they are. 0:41:20.600 --> 0:41:22.279 And now that we just found out that they're all 0:41:22.320 --> 0:41:23.520 closing down here in the area. 0:41:25.120 --> 0:41:28.239 Yeah, you know, it's it's really going to bring out 0:41:28.320 --> 0:41:33.320 the best in American entrepreneurs, which is we always shine 0:41:33.960 --> 0:41:36.840 when times are tough. Not easy for the guys that 0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:40.520 are going out, but the reality is you've got three 0:41:40.640 --> 0:41:43.200 hundred and thirty million people. Every one of them is 0:41:43.239 --> 0:41:45.920 going to eat at least a couple times a day, 0:41:46.480 --> 0:41:48.319 and people are going to want to go out to eat, 0:41:48.520 --> 0:41:50.880 whether they're busy, they're on the road, they don't have 0:41:50.960 --> 0:41:51.799 the time to cook. 0:41:51.960 --> 0:41:53.800 So there's always going to be a market. 0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:57.960 So the challenge is how do you take this scenario 0:41:58.680 --> 0:42:02.800 where on one side, if you're clever, you've got a 0:42:02.920 --> 0:42:06.040 really good opportunity because people who are less clever are 0:42:06.080 --> 0:42:09.200 going to go out of business. Right, just because everything 0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:11.560 is more expensive, it doesn't mean people are going to 0:42:11.600 --> 0:42:12.439 figure things out. 0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:13.719 What does that look like. 0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:18.359 It looks like lower cost food products that are used 0:42:18.400 --> 0:42:20.840 to offset higher cost food products. 0:42:21.280 --> 0:42:22.960 Think about French fries and a burger. 0:42:23.120 --> 0:42:25.879 Right, potatoes are going to be cheaper, the meat's gonna 0:42:25.880 --> 0:42:28.600 be more expensive, so you're probably gonna see bigger portions 0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:30.760 of fries, smaller beef patties. 0:42:31.200 --> 0:42:32.600 But people are going to eat it. 0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:37.759 And if we are unfortunately giving too much, then the 0:42:37.840 --> 0:42:39.319 market isn't going to reward us. 0:42:39.880 --> 0:42:42.440 So that's the landscape that I think that we're in. 0:42:42.880 --> 0:42:46.520 And there is opportunity out there because the demand is there, 0:42:47.040 --> 0:42:48.399 but it's a real tight rope. 0:42:48.840 --> 0:42:49.960 But that's where big money is. 0:42:51.000 --> 0:42:54.200 Is there a certain kind of food that or the 0:42:54.760 --> 0:42:58.240 margins are better. I mean traditionally breakfast food was always 0:42:58.360 --> 0:43:00.360 kind of had pretty good margins and there you know, 0:43:00.400 --> 0:43:02.839 eggs went high. I think they're kind of back down now. 0:43:02.920 --> 0:43:05.880 But is there anything else that's you know, profit margins 0:43:05.920 --> 0:43:07.839 are usual, or at least have been in the past 0:43:07.920 --> 0:43:08.399 pretty good. 0:43:10.440 --> 0:43:12.680 You know, anything that has a long shelf life is 0:43:12.719 --> 0:43:15.560 going to be a good margin, right, think of rice, 0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:17.920 of pasta, think of pizza. 0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:19.439 Right, it's flour and water. 0:43:20.040 --> 0:43:22.680 These are things that you can stack up and store 0:43:23.000 --> 0:43:26.279 and keep, which isn't great for the health of our 0:43:26.320 --> 0:43:31.520 country because fresh vegetables, right, fresh meat, fish, things like 0:43:31.600 --> 0:43:34.680 this that are healthy for you have a very high 0:43:34.800 --> 0:43:39.839 cost of storage and of spoilage. And that is it's 0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:43.720 a really unfortunate observation when you think about it, because 0:43:43.760 --> 0:43:48.400 what it does is it makes us all less healthy 0:43:49.120 --> 0:43:52.400 if we can't afford to eat well. It actually hurts 0:43:52.520 --> 0:43:56.200 us as a nation because we're eating garbage. 0:43:56.320 --> 0:43:59.000 Right well, and I think that's probably again add this 0:43:59.120 --> 0:44:00.840 to the list of a hun hundred things that are 0:44:00.920 --> 0:44:04.440 hurting restaurants. Now to your point about shelf life, I 0:44:04.480 --> 0:44:06.439 don't know about you, but I feel like I've seen 0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:09.960 a big push within the last year about people pointing 0:44:10.000 --> 0:44:12.440 out the additives that are in the foods and the 0:44:12.640 --> 0:44:15.359 dyes and all the emulcifying agents and all this sort 0:44:15.400 --> 0:44:18.840 of things. So I feel like that's turning people away 0:44:18.920 --> 0:44:21.759 from restaurants that to some degree. Do you see that. 0:44:23.440 --> 0:44:23.520 One? 0:44:24.360 --> 0:44:28.279 I mean, everything is going to have elasticity of price, right, 0:44:28.960 --> 0:44:31.279 price goes up higher, fewer people can afford it. 0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:33.279 They're fewer people that can buy it. 0:44:33.800 --> 0:44:36.759 So if we're taking those things out of the food chain, 0:44:37.000 --> 0:44:39.359 which you know, we really probably shouldn't be eating all 0:44:39.440 --> 0:44:43.520 this garbage, then it's going to make food costs go 0:44:43.680 --> 0:44:46.960 up even more. That's just going to make it less 0:44:46.960 --> 0:44:47.920 affordable to people. 0:44:48.440 --> 0:44:51.719 Yeah, Nick Neanoccus is our guest, And Nick, is there 0:44:51.800 --> 0:45:00.520 a category of restaurant by that, I mean Chinese, Mexican 0:45:00.640 --> 0:45:03.960 blah blah blah that would that would tend to be 0:45:04.040 --> 0:45:06.719 able to kind of skirt around these issues or is 0:45:06.800 --> 0:45:08.279 it just kind of all over the board. 0:45:09.520 --> 0:45:11.360 Well, it's a little all over the board. 0:45:11.520 --> 0:45:14.879 But you know, if you take a look historically, take 0:45:14.880 --> 0:45:18.759 a look at Domino's pizza. Okay, you get a war, 0:45:19.040 --> 0:45:22.440 you get a recession, domino stock goes up, and I'm 0:45:22.480 --> 0:45:28.520 not giving financial advice, but you know, because it's inexpensive food, right, 0:45:28.680 --> 0:45:34.120 it's it's flour So businesses, restaurants, categories that have an 0:45:34.160 --> 0:45:39.840 over reliance on things like pasta and flower based product 0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:43.520 like pizza, those tend to do well. You start getting 0:45:43.560 --> 0:45:47.400 into the you know, all organic, fancy fresh vegetables, and 0:45:48.000 --> 0:45:49.839 you know, unless you've got a whole line of people 0:45:49.920 --> 0:45:52.520 that can pay forty five bucks, forty bucks, thirty five 0:45:52.560 --> 0:45:54.880 bucks for a meal with a drink and a salad, 0:45:56.520 --> 0:46:00.640 you're not going to be a business very lock. Those 0:46:00.680 --> 0:46:01.440 are the categories. 0:46:01.800 --> 0:46:07.040 I'm sorry because they're like a technology that restaurant folks 0:46:07.120 --> 0:46:09.680 are hoping develops that will help ease some costs. Whether 0:46:09.800 --> 0:46:12.080 that's I don't know, and I don't I'm not rooting 0:46:12.160 --> 0:46:16.320 for this, but you know, driverless trucks is it? I 0:46:16.680 --> 0:46:18.799 don't know what it is. Is there something that that's 0:46:18.840 --> 0:46:21.480 around the corner there. If it's AI that that's going 0:46:21.520 --> 0:46:25.360 to help drive things down or no, Yes, you know, I. 0:46:25.400 --> 0:46:28.160 Think if you take a look at technology and the 0:46:28.320 --> 0:46:31.680 labor component, right, so we've got food, we've got labor, 0:46:31.840 --> 0:46:35.040 we've got overhead, so we need to address each of those. 0:46:35.680 --> 0:46:38.440 On the labor side, you can use technology. This is 0:46:38.480 --> 0:46:44.319 where you're seeing robots, better cooking systems and processes where 0:46:44.320 --> 0:46:47.319 you need fewer people to make the food. And that's 0:46:47.400 --> 0:46:49.400 happening on the farm too, right, So if you go 0:46:49.520 --> 0:46:52.920 all the way back into the food chain, you know, 0:46:53.160 --> 0:46:56.080 this is something where we've been brilliant as Americans over 0:46:56.600 --> 0:47:02.960 decades is fewer people generally more being more productive. So AI, 0:47:03.320 --> 0:47:07.120 I think you're gonna see it working into the food 0:47:07.400 --> 0:47:12.320 category by identifying peak hours, how many people do you 0:47:12.440 --> 0:47:12.840 need to have? 0:47:13.160 --> 0:47:16.960 What are you ordering to have on hand? So it's 0:47:16.960 --> 0:47:18.520 gonna make the supply chain. 0:47:18.960 --> 0:47:21.000 Tighter, you see what I mean, So you don't have 0:47:21.080 --> 0:47:23.840 to have as much food that's gonna go bad because 0:47:23.880 --> 0:47:27.000 you know every second Wednesday you get a huge bump 0:47:27.200 --> 0:47:30.279 of traffic between four and eight pm. That's the kind 0:47:30.320 --> 0:47:34.520 of insights that I think data and technology are bringing 0:47:34.800 --> 0:47:38.240 and have brought and during the pandemic, that was the massive, 0:47:38.400 --> 0:47:41.520 major breakdown because even though we had all these supply 0:47:41.760 --> 0:47:46.640 chain systems in place, people weren't on the road. Nobody 0:47:46.760 --> 0:47:49.160 was driving trucks, people weren't picking in the fields. Right, 0:47:49.239 --> 0:47:51.560 So it's like, great, you have all these tools, but 0:47:51.680 --> 0:47:54.360 the inputs started getting all jacked up, and that was 0:47:54.440 --> 0:47:57.640 the big challenge that we had during the pandemic. 0:47:58.960 --> 0:48:02.560 And general, I mean, you make that point, I'm almost 0:48:02.600 --> 0:48:07.279 scared to ask, but how much food do restaurants throw out? 0:48:07.480 --> 0:48:10.560 I would just I mean, it's it's gonna be awful 0:48:10.680 --> 0:48:12.400 to see if you're a rushing you cook all this 0:48:12.520 --> 0:48:15.120 food and it's the end of the night. And I mean, 0:48:15.719 --> 0:48:18.040 is there any sort of grasp you have on that. 0:48:19.760 --> 0:48:22.840 You know, it depends on the category, but in general, 0:48:23.640 --> 0:48:26.800 you your eyes would pop out of your head, you know. 0:48:26.920 --> 0:48:29.960 And it's from what people don't eat. I mean the 0:48:30.040 --> 0:48:34.719 amount of waste that we have, food spoilage. You know, 0:48:34.760 --> 0:48:38.200 if you go into a supermarket and go go behind 0:48:38.239 --> 0:48:40.719 a supermarket just for fun and take a look at 0:48:40.719 --> 0:48:44.200 how much produce gets thrown out, you know, you could 0:48:44.200 --> 0:48:46.000 feed the homeless with that. And then there's you know 0:48:46.400 --> 0:48:49.120 the second harvest. You've probably seen some of these they 0:48:49.200 --> 0:48:53.720 have in Cincinnati. It's a great it's a great philanthropy 0:48:53.840 --> 0:48:56.560 and charity where you know, you're using some of this 0:48:56.680 --> 0:49:00.000 food to feed people that don't have the ability to eat, 0:49:00.480 --> 0:49:01.720 don't the only buy food. 0:49:02.400 --> 0:49:04.560 So yeah, we waste a lot in this country. 0:49:05.280 --> 0:49:07.800 Nick Neanakis our guests and Nick before we let you 0:49:07.840 --> 0:49:10.239 go one and also touch on you and I have 0:49:10.280 --> 0:49:11.800 talked about this, but we're not. I think you actually 0:49:11.800 --> 0:49:14.040 talked about it on the show. This new new business 0:49:14.080 --> 0:49:17.640 you're involved with too. These in ground dumpsters rock this 0:49:17.840 --> 0:49:18.799 is this is cool. 0:49:20.320 --> 0:49:22.759 Yeah, you know we were talking about technology, how do 0:49:22.840 --> 0:49:26.279 you save money? This is definitely part of that chain. 0:49:27.320 --> 0:49:29.400 So this was This came in from Europe. It's a 0:49:29.520 --> 0:49:34.080 vertical in ground dumpster. The companies called sub Contain Subcontained 0:49:34.160 --> 0:49:36.879 dot com. You may have seen these dumpsters. They're all 0:49:36.960 --> 0:49:39.600 over the world other than the United States. And you 0:49:39.680 --> 0:49:43.680 can put more garbage into a smaller footprint. It's a 0:49:43.880 --> 0:49:46.840 it's a tube that goes into the ground instead of 0:49:46.880 --> 0:49:51.759 a metal box. So restaurants save because they don't have 0:49:51.920 --> 0:49:55.080 to have the garbage picked up as often self compacts. 0:49:55.600 --> 0:49:57.400 So there are a lot of things like this that 0:49:57.480 --> 0:49:58.360 are that are happening. 0:49:58.480 --> 0:50:01.160 This is maybe one of the fastest grow franchises I've 0:50:01.239 --> 0:50:06.320 ever seen, because whether AI takes over the world or 0:50:06.600 --> 0:50:09.719 robots take over the world, we as human beings will 0:50:09.800 --> 0:50:14.160 create garbage and it needs to get dealt with. Hopefully 0:50:14.200 --> 0:50:16.560 the you know, the trash mob doesn't coming off. All 0:50:16.640 --> 0:50:17.920 these people that are involved in. 0:50:20.880 --> 0:50:22.040 It's going to be involved. 0:50:23.880 --> 0:50:25.640 It's funny, Yeah, it's funny. 0:50:25.680 --> 0:50:26.000 You say that. 0:50:26.239 --> 0:50:29.560 I got a friend that I that I know he is. 0:50:30.320 --> 0:50:32.719 He's he's a millionaire and and he always said when 0:50:32.719 --> 0:50:34.520 he was looking to go into business, he said, I 0:50:34.600 --> 0:50:36.239 sat down when I was young, and I said, what 0:50:36.400 --> 0:50:40.160 does something that everybody everybody does, everybody uses? He said, 0:50:40.760 --> 0:50:46.280 everybody needs medical care, everybody dies, everybody has medical waste, 0:50:46.440 --> 0:50:49.200 and everybody needs to dispose of medical waste. And that's 0:50:49.360 --> 0:50:51.720 kind of where he went into his business. And boom, 0:50:51.800 --> 0:50:54.960 here you go, and uh, yeah, those trash impactor things 0:50:55.000 --> 0:50:58.000 are are pretty incredible. And what an aha idea just 0:50:58.120 --> 0:51:02.120 let self kind of pact itself. It seems very simple, 0:51:02.440 --> 0:51:05.120 but a brilliant ideal with those things, all right, it 0:51:05.280 --> 0:51:05.520 is and. 0:51:05.680 --> 0:51:07.799 You know, Maslow's hierarchy of needs. 0:51:07.880 --> 0:51:10.319 Right, So if you've got listeners thinking about what kind 0:51:10.320 --> 0:51:12.800 of business should I be looking for? Think of the 0:51:13.000 --> 0:51:16.640 basic human necessities. These are the things that there's always 0:51:16.719 --> 0:51:18.680 going to be a need for. And you know, if 0:51:18.719 --> 0:51:20.719 I could, if you'd like some more information on this 0:51:20.840 --> 0:51:25.719 subcontain uh take send the word franchise to two six 0:51:25.920 --> 0:51:29.279 seven eight six. So if your listener's text franchise to 0:51:29.360 --> 0:51:31.719 two six seven eight six, I'll send them the full 0:51:31.800 --> 0:51:34.360 package of info about this and I'll even throw in 0:51:34.440 --> 0:51:38.120 a copy of the franchise MBA my gift to your listeners. 0:51:38.400 --> 0:51:41.120 All right, well, good stuff Nick. With the that we 0:51:41.239 --> 0:51:43.759 will let you go, Buddy, always a pleasure, Thanks so much, 0:51:44.760 --> 0:51:49.400 Thanks fellas, Thanks buddy, our good friend Nick Neanacus. And 0:51:49.560 --> 0:51:51.319 with that, we had to traffic on weather. 0:51:51.400 --> 0:51:53.520 What is going on from the. 0:51:53.560 --> 0:51:56.160 Ac Health Traffic Center. Mammogram saved Live. I just called 0:51:56.200 --> 0:51:58.680 five P one three five eight four pink. Schedule your 0:51:58.840 --> 0:52:01.319 annual mammogram with your health s expert team five win 0:52:01.360 --> 0:52:03.880 to three five eight four pink. 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And of course it was on this day 0:53:51.239 --> 0:53:56.920 in history, October twentieth, nineteen ninety Cincinnati Reds fans heard this. 0:53:58.120 --> 0:54:01.480 Landford good hitting, Oakland third baseman, and Meyer's bringing it 0:54:01.680 --> 0:54:03.960 and the pitcher is hit in the air, foul off 0:54:04.040 --> 0:54:08.000 first Benzinger backing and calling, and the nineteen ninety World 0:54:08.120 --> 0:54:13.719 Championship belongs to the Cincinnati Reds. As you might expect, 0:54:14.280 --> 0:54:18.000 they pile out of the dugout. They are jumping up 0:54:18.080 --> 0:54:22.279 and high vibing all smiles as Blue Panilla and his 0:54:22.400 --> 0:54:26.000 coaching staff break out of the dugout, gloves and caps 0:54:26.200 --> 0:54:29.759 all over the endfield. The Cincinnati Reds have done the 0:54:29.960 --> 0:54:34.279 absolute improbable by defeating the glut, considered to be the 0:54:34.400 --> 0:54:37.239 best in Major League Baseball, and they've done it in 0:54:37.360 --> 0:54:38.840 a four game series. 0:54:38.960 --> 0:54:39.280 Suite. 0:54:40.520 --> 0:54:41.360 That'ssane. 0:54:42.480 --> 0:54:42.719 Sane. 0:54:42.800 --> 0:54:48.000 I remember, I remember that SoundBite. We're listening to its 0:54:48.080 --> 0:54:50.839 last time the Reds heead glory head right there. 0:54:51.480 --> 0:54:53.840 Well, and it just it kills me too, just to 0:54:54.800 --> 0:54:56.400 you remind me that was the last game of the 0:54:56.440 --> 0:55:01.120 World Series, that the World Cherries has even started yet, right, Yeah. 0:55:01.280 --> 0:55:04.239 I granted that was thirty some years ago, but still, yeah, 0:55:04.400 --> 0:55:06.920 I don't. I don't think we should be playing baseball 0:55:06.960 --> 0:55:08.799 in November, dude, I don't care if it is in LA. 0:55:09.120 --> 0:55:09.319 Yeah. 0:55:09.520 --> 0:55:13.239 Yeah, I get it done before beforehand. But no, that 0:55:13.480 --> 0:55:17.640 was yeah, remember well, and I just remember being I 0:55:17.760 --> 0:55:21.040 was ten years old and just remember being like just 0:55:21.360 --> 0:55:25.160 overcome by how big that was in Cincinnati and how 0:55:25.320 --> 0:55:28.120 everybody was into him. I'm not again ten years older. 0:55:28.200 --> 0:55:30.799 You remember stuff when you're young. I remember my mom 0:55:31.840 --> 0:55:34.799 got this like, uh, you know, kind of like little 0:55:34.880 --> 0:55:37.080 craft necklace. I don't know if she made I don't know, 0:55:37.200 --> 0:55:40.160 but it had a broom on it and Cincinnati Reds 0:55:40.200 --> 0:55:42.960 thing and which was you know with a sweep. Was 0:55:43.719 --> 0:55:45.719 was very cool, remember going to work with that on. 0:55:45.960 --> 0:55:47.680 But yeah, it was a big moment. 0:55:48.280 --> 0:55:48.400 Well. 0:55:48.560 --> 0:55:51.520 Speaking of baseball though, how about a Tawny over the weekend? 0:55:51.600 --> 0:55:54.840 Man, we have ten strikeouts and three home runs? Was 0:55:54.880 --> 0:55:59.239 that the official stats in six innings? I mean, you know, 0:55:59.640 --> 0:56:01.399 and you can understand, you know, when you hear people 0:56:01.440 --> 0:56:04.040 say he's maybe the greatest baseball player of all time, 0:56:04.120 --> 0:56:05.640 you go, come on, but he does stuff like that. 0:56:06.960 --> 0:56:09.440 I think there is only one way to really overcome 0:56:10.160 --> 0:56:12.759 some of the big names like Ruth and all that. 0:56:12.920 --> 0:56:16.880 It's it's to be dominant in two things, you know, 0:56:16.880 --> 0:56:20.440 I mean, the most dominant hitter and a dominant pitcher, 0:56:21.040 --> 0:56:23.279 which is unheard of. And he's doing it. 0:56:23.920 --> 0:56:27.640 See that that was back in the day. Ruth started 0:56:27.680 --> 0:56:29.800 as a pitcher right because he was so good and 0:56:29.960 --> 0:56:30.920 put him in the outfield. 0:56:31.120 --> 0:56:37.080 Yeah, yeah, incredible. Another news that Jack Cromley just passed 0:56:37.160 --> 0:56:39.759 us across my desk here and I haven't had a 0:56:40.200 --> 0:56:44.120 chance to digest all of it, but it's I think 0:56:44.120 --> 0:56:47.120 it's a sign of things to come. Ohs AA athletes 0:56:47.280 --> 0:56:51.160 will be able to make NIL deals after a ruling 0:56:51.239 --> 0:56:55.480 in the Ohio States, if they're ruling that just came down. So, uh, 0:56:56.000 --> 0:56:59.680 Franklin County judge ruled in favor of one of the 0:56:59.760 --> 0:57:01.719 top high school football players in the country. And if 0:57:01.760 --> 0:57:03.720 you haven't heard this kid, his name is Jamiir Brown. 0:57:04.320 --> 0:57:07.160 I paid place for Wayne High School and Huber Heights. 0:57:07.280 --> 0:57:09.239 Is that where you went? Okay, that's what I thought. 0:57:10.480 --> 0:57:14.960 And granting an order that temporarily halts a state prohibition 0:57:15.560 --> 0:57:18.400 on high school athletes from entering into an ILE deal, 0:57:18.520 --> 0:57:21.480 so for the foreseeable future, and I imagine this will 0:57:21.520 --> 0:57:26.520 be blocked by some second court of whatever. Right now, 0:57:26.800 --> 0:57:31.360 this will allow high school athletes to receive an IL deals, 0:57:31.400 --> 0:57:34.200 and right now, I believe is one of six states 0:57:34.800 --> 0:57:38.160 that don't allow an IL so most of the other 0:57:38.240 --> 0:57:42.640 ones this is happening only matter of time. And it 0:57:42.760 --> 0:57:47.840 happens because you know, again, the course a funny thing, 0:57:47.920 --> 0:57:49.720 and they make the case just like they did with 0:57:49.840 --> 0:57:53.040 the college athletes. Well, you're denying a young man in 0:57:53.160 --> 0:57:55.840 this case a right to be able to work to 0:57:55.920 --> 0:57:58.760 make money for his family. That's the case that's made. 0:57:58.840 --> 0:58:01.840 And you know, it's it can be you can it 0:58:01.920 --> 0:58:04.640 can be a decent case to be made. And it's 0:58:04.720 --> 0:58:06.920 kind of where we're at. I think it's I think 0:58:06.920 --> 0:58:08.760 it'd be a disaster. That's why I was going, I 0:58:08.840 --> 0:58:13.080 was going to ask you your thoughts on it. I 0:58:13.200 --> 0:58:16.880 I and it's hard to say that. It's because for 0:58:17.000 --> 0:58:20.400 some people like it would be, it would be something 0:58:20.480 --> 0:58:24.680 that would be life changing for their family if if 0:58:24.720 --> 0:58:28.400 you're like a very very But outside of that, I 0:58:28.480 --> 0:58:30.320 just feel like it creates a lot of just again, 0:58:30.600 --> 0:58:35.240 as everybody would say, a lot of problems, and especially 0:58:35.320 --> 0:58:37.520 with younger I mean you're talking about it. It's hard 0:58:37.600 --> 0:58:40.400 for college kids to deal with all this money and 0:58:40.480 --> 0:58:41.920 what to do with it and where to put it 0:58:42.000 --> 0:58:43.800 and how to protect it and all that. Now you're 0:58:43.840 --> 0:58:47.000 talking about young sixteen seven year old kids. Yeah, and 0:58:47.400 --> 0:58:51.120 you know, kids choosing high schools over over money instead 0:58:51.160 --> 0:58:53.600 of you know, maybe where their parents went or the 0:58:53.760 --> 0:58:54.600 place they want to go. 0:58:55.320 --> 0:58:57.520 And where does the money come. It's just from donors. 0:58:58.280 --> 0:59:03.720 Yeah, you know, it's it's company. I think again, it's 0:59:03.760 --> 0:59:05.480 it's it's kind of how it started on college. It 0:59:05.640 --> 0:59:08.440 was like the big push was, you know, if a business, 0:59:08.480 --> 0:59:12.200 if a car dealer wants to pay the Ohio State 0:59:12.320 --> 0:59:16.760 quarterback money to sign autographs at his dealership on a Sunday, 0:59:17.160 --> 0:59:19.280 he should be able to do that, Okay, And people 0:59:19.400 --> 0:59:21.320 fought for that. But then that's not what it turned into. 0:59:21.360 --> 0:59:28.200 It turned into donors and businesses buying buying players. That's 0:59:28.240 --> 0:59:32.160 what it turned into. And I think again, Chris Henry Jr. 0:59:33.400 --> 0:59:35.360 By everything I've heard, that's why he went out to 0:59:35.480 --> 0:59:37.720 Modern Day and played because he's like, well, I could 0:59:37.720 --> 0:59:39.640 stick around here in Ohio he was at Withrow and 0:59:40.280 --> 0:59:42.960 go out there and make money and play and still 0:59:43.000 --> 0:59:43.720 go to Ohio State. 0:59:44.680 --> 0:59:47.080 So but it is it is crazy, man, that that 0:59:47.240 --> 0:59:49.880 that is creeping. How low does it go? 0:59:50.120 --> 0:59:53.560 What was even crazier is I've talked to high school 0:59:53.600 --> 0:59:56.640 coaches and they are starting to see and this is 0:59:56.680 --> 1:00:01.120 a part of it, but high school players like opting 1:00:01.200 --> 1:00:04.120 out of their senior year kind of thing because you know, 1:00:04.440 --> 1:00:06.000 or whether maybe they get a little bit of money, 1:00:06.120 --> 1:00:08.560 or maybe they they commit to Michigan or Ohio State 1:00:08.640 --> 1:00:10.440 or something like, I don't know if I really want 1:00:10.480 --> 1:00:12.560 to risk getting hurt and getting out the area. I 1:00:12.600 --> 1:00:14.160 don't know if that's really the best thing I want 1:00:14.200 --> 1:00:16.080 to do. And it's crazy, but. 1:00:16.240 --> 1:00:18.520 In and only a matter of time rock before it 1:00:18.640 --> 1:00:22.840 trickles down to like junior high next. I mean, you 1:00:22.920 --> 1:00:25.520 hear about people all the time going in and starting 1:00:25.560 --> 1:00:28.520 to stealthy's the twelve, thirteen, fourteen year old kids to 1:00:28.640 --> 1:00:28.959 that point. 1:00:29.120 --> 1:00:33.400 I saw a video online and I can't confirm, you 1:00:33.480 --> 1:00:37.480 know how, the accuracy of it, but it was this guy. 1:00:37.600 --> 1:00:40.240 He was a youth football coach talking. He's like, folks, 1:00:40.600 --> 1:00:44.400 it's here. It finally happens. You know, some player like 1:00:44.520 --> 1:00:47.320 the mom approached this guy and said, hey, we're from Florida, 1:00:47.560 --> 1:00:51.800 and you know AJ here is the top receivers. And 1:00:51.960 --> 1:00:54.320 again we're talking like ten years old, eleven years old, 1:00:55.080 --> 1:00:59.520 the top players in Florida. Lots of teams that won him. 1:01:00.160 --> 1:01:03.640 The price is one thousand bucks a month. He's like, well, 1:01:03.840 --> 1:01:06.360 huh what yeah, but I mean you could see you 1:01:06.400 --> 1:01:09.360 can certainly certainly see it trickling down to that, and 1:01:09.520 --> 1:01:13.360 maybe there's places or coaches or teams that pay that. 1:01:13.880 --> 1:01:17.360 That's a bridge too far. That a bridge too far. 1:01:17.560 --> 1:01:20.240 High school paying of athletes is a bridge too far 1:01:20.280 --> 1:01:24.919 from me. But that is insane being a youth parent 1:01:25.040 --> 1:01:27.040 saying you want, if you want, want my guy to 1:01:27.760 --> 1:01:30.720 play for you, and the case toy making is well, 1:01:31.120 --> 1:01:33.320 you're a some other team is gonna pay him if 1:01:33.360 --> 1:01:36.520 you don't. That's what happens. It's like people don't want 1:01:36.560 --> 1:01:39.080 to do it, but then they wind up playing against 1:01:39.120 --> 1:01:41.720 that player. He winds up kicking their ass because some 1:01:41.800 --> 1:01:44.480 other opponent is paying them, and then they go, well, 1:01:45.040 --> 1:01:46.120 can't beat them, join them? 1:01:46.960 --> 1:01:49.160 Oh, I would assume so that when the parents are 1:01:49.160 --> 1:01:50.400 going to gang up and you're like, what do you 1:01:50.520 --> 1:01:51.280 let that kid go for? 1:01:51.600 --> 1:01:54.160 Yeah, our team and we are kicking our butts r 1:01:54.160 --> 1:01:57.840 either kicking our butts for a couple hundred bucks. That's 1:01:58.920 --> 1:02:00.760 there's gotta be a line on this, and I think 1:02:01.240 --> 1:02:02.360 that's for me. That's it. 1:02:03.240 --> 1:02:05.320 With that, we check in with traffic and weather, what 1:02:05.720 --> 1:02:07.720 is going on and from the. 1:02:07.800 --> 1:02:11.040 UC Health Traffic Center, Mammo Graham Save Lives called five 1:02:11.160 --> 1:02:14.120 one three five eight four pink. 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SAA will now allow athletes to be 1:04:03.480 --> 1:04:07.720 able to make an IL after and also a lawsuit 1:04:07.840 --> 1:04:10.000 was brought forth by a kid by the name of 1:04:10.080 --> 1:04:14.560 Jamir Brown. He's in Ohio state wide receiver commit by 1:04:14.800 --> 1:04:17.480 most services out there. He's the number one wide receivercruit 1:04:17.520 --> 1:04:20.280 in the country. He goes to Wayne High School and 1:04:20.320 --> 1:04:24.120 Huber Heights and his attorney made the case that he's 1:04:24.360 --> 1:04:27.120 already missed out and over one hundred thousand dollars of 1:04:27.240 --> 1:04:30.480 potential deals. And what he has said is he makes 1:04:30.520 --> 1:04:34.520 the case. Look, if you were a generational talent at 1:04:34.640 --> 1:04:41.680 playing trumpet, okay, then some place, some orchestra would would 1:04:41.720 --> 1:04:43.680 love your services and they would be able to pay 1:04:43.680 --> 1:04:46.320 you as a high school kid, Hey, ed, come to 1:04:46.400 --> 1:04:49.560 the New York Symphony and play trumpet for us. We don't, 1:04:49.600 --> 1:04:52.440 you know, boom, let's go. That would be allowed. But 1:04:52.800 --> 1:04:56.400 a football player, a top football player, can't do the sense. 1:04:56.440 --> 1:04:58.720 So that's the case that's made. And I guess my 1:04:58.920 --> 1:05:02.160 counter that would be I understand that. As I laid 1:05:02.160 --> 1:05:05.400 out earlier in the last segment, the nil for college 1:05:05.440 --> 1:05:08.520 players was supposed to be if a player gets his 1:05:08.800 --> 1:05:11.480 name up to a certain degree of recognition where it 1:05:11.600 --> 1:05:16.160 has some value. Where another example, a car dealer wants 1:05:16.240 --> 1:05:22.280 to or no, a local Arby's wants to have you know, 1:05:22.640 --> 1:05:27.040 young that that great quarterback Ed Fingers wants to have 1:05:27.200 --> 1:05:30.520 him in on Sunday from noon to three, and he's 1:05:30.560 --> 1:05:32.919 gonna be there and sign autographs and pay you five 1:05:33.040 --> 1:05:35.600 thousand bucks to do that. That's what it was supposed 1:05:35.640 --> 1:05:38.840 to be, but it turned into buying players, which is 1:05:38.960 --> 1:05:40.760 what you could see happening with high school kids. 1:05:40.800 --> 1:05:43.840 Oh totally. Let's take a couple of calls on it. 1:05:44.040 --> 1:05:47.400 It's let's get first to Brian and Indiana. Hey, Brian, 1:05:47.480 --> 1:05:47.840 what's up? 1:05:49.080 --> 1:05:49.240 Hey? 1:05:50.720 --> 1:05:55.720 Yeah, Okay, if a child is not legally considered of 1:05:55.880 --> 1:06:01.479 age till eighteen, then how can they really the inner 1:06:02.240 --> 1:06:05.840 n I L contract without some type of parent involvement 1:06:06.200 --> 1:06:11.960 and being in the middle of that and possibly selling 1:06:12.040 --> 1:06:13.400 the kids off to the highest bid. 1:06:14.320 --> 1:06:15.040 That's not right. 1:06:15.520 --> 1:06:20.120 No, that's exactly what happens. Exactly what it is, exactly right, 1:06:20.280 --> 1:06:21.280 that's what happens. Yeah. 1:06:21.440 --> 1:06:24.520 Yeah, the kid can't do anything on his own, you know. Yeah, 1:06:25.400 --> 1:06:28.440 let's uh, let's talk to Gary. Hey, Gary, what's going 1:06:28.440 --> 1:06:32.000 on in Walnut Hills, buddy? Or Western Hills after and. 1:06:32.040 --> 1:06:37.800 Gentlemen, So isn't this a form of exactly what Mohler 1:06:37.960 --> 1:06:41.680 was doing years ago when we know a faust Yeah, 1:06:41.760 --> 1:06:44.840 sat there and moved families into the into the district 1:06:44.920 --> 1:06:45.960 so that the kids could. 1:06:45.800 --> 1:06:46.400 Go to Molar. 1:06:48.360 --> 1:06:51.360 It's just a form of the exact same thing. Mike. 1:06:51.520 --> 1:06:54.760 My biggest thing is this, especially for high school. 1:06:55.480 --> 1:06:58.560 If if you're getting any. 1:06:58.440 --> 1:07:01.640 Type of scholarship at all to go to a high school, 1:07:02.520 --> 1:07:06.439 to play a sport. Aren't you getting paid anyway? Isn't 1:07:06.480 --> 1:07:09.000 the scholarship in itself form of payment? 1:07:09.760 --> 1:07:09.960 Yeah? 1:07:10.240 --> 1:07:10.520 It is. 1:07:10.760 --> 1:07:13.720 And here's the other loophole. If you want to look 1:07:13.800 --> 1:07:17.800 into the inner workings of this. High schools are allowed 1:07:17.880 --> 1:07:20.520 to give some scholarships for anything, and you can call 1:07:20.560 --> 1:07:22.720 it anything. You can call it a leadership scholarship. Well, 1:07:22.760 --> 1:07:24.600 what's the criter here, I don't know, be a leader, 1:07:24.680 --> 1:07:26.880 whatever the hell that means. And they can give it 1:07:26.960 --> 1:07:29.040 to They just happen to give it to that football 1:07:29.080 --> 1:07:32.280 player right there. You get the you know, you know, 1:07:32.440 --> 1:07:37.200 Rocky em boyman leadership scholarship, right boom and that guy 1:07:37.280 --> 1:07:39.880 comes in, So, yeah, it is. It's it is kind 1:07:39.920 --> 1:07:42.360 of the same thing. It's just I guess a little 1:07:42.400 --> 1:07:44.680 more forthright that it's actual cash. 1:07:45.720 --> 1:07:45.840 Right. 1:07:45.920 --> 1:07:48.360 And I'll tell you write this down a piece of 1:07:48.400 --> 1:07:52.280 paper mail through yourself. Ten years from now. This is 1:07:52.360 --> 1:07:55.840 going to be the ruin of high school sports and 1:07:55.960 --> 1:07:59.200 college sports. This nil thing. This will be the ruin 1:07:59.240 --> 1:08:04.360 of that because there is no commitment. And it's started 1:08:04.440 --> 1:08:06.920 years ago with coaches being able to sign a five year, 1:08:07.000 --> 1:08:10.080 three year contract and then another school comes calling after 1:08:10.240 --> 1:08:13.400 four years and that coach leaves. There's no commitment on 1:08:13.480 --> 1:08:16.320 the coaches level. There's not gonna be any commitment on 1:08:16.360 --> 1:08:21.080 the player's level. What are we teaching these people about commitment? 1:08:21.120 --> 1:08:24.000 When are we teaching our young adults about commitment? I 1:08:24.080 --> 1:08:26.840 can go someplace until I find something better. Oh, I 1:08:26.880 --> 1:08:29.360 can go someplace there until I find something better. And 1:08:29.560 --> 1:08:33.000 kids are entering the porthole every year to go and 1:08:33.240 --> 1:08:34.559 up the up the anti. 1:08:34.800 --> 1:08:36.720 I guess the case commitment. I guess the case we 1:08:36.840 --> 1:08:38.479 made is. And let me ask you that, like, what 1:08:38.600 --> 1:08:40.200 do you do for a living or did you do 1:08:40.320 --> 1:08:40.719 for a living? 1:08:41.840 --> 1:08:43.160 I used to own my own business. 1:08:43.280 --> 1:08:46.080 Okay, so you owned your own business. So what would 1:08:46.840 --> 1:08:51.559 stop you from going from another business down the street 1:08:51.640 --> 1:08:54.240 wants to pay one hundred thousand dollars more a year. 1:08:54.320 --> 1:08:57.040 You're able to freely go and take that and join 1:08:57.120 --> 1:08:59.639 that business because they're paying you more. Right, why shouldn't 1:08:59.640 --> 1:09:01.560 I coach or a player. I'm just saying that's the 1:09:01.640 --> 1:09:02.400 case that can be. 1:09:02.439 --> 1:09:04.800 Made well, and I'm fine with that. 1:09:05.080 --> 1:09:08.479 My point is, honor the commitment. If you sign a 1:09:08.600 --> 1:09:12.200 five year deal to go and I don't know all 1:09:12.240 --> 1:09:15.920 the ins and outs of scholarships for kids you know, scholarships, 1:09:15.960 --> 1:09:18.479 from my understanding is it's like a one year thing 1:09:18.520 --> 1:09:20.240 at a time. I mean, you may say you're going 1:09:20.320 --> 1:09:24.000 to go to Ohio State University for five years to 1:09:24.000 --> 1:09:26.880 play football, but it's one year to the next year 1:09:26.960 --> 1:09:29.320 to the next year. There are criteria that have to 1:09:29.400 --> 1:09:31.680 be met in order for you to continue to get 1:09:31.760 --> 1:09:36.719 that scholarship. But in a coach's situation, he sits and says, 1:09:37.000 --> 1:09:39.880 I'm going to go coach for Ohio State and I'm 1:09:39.880 --> 1:09:42.519 going to stay there for five years. And three years 1:09:42.640 --> 1:09:47.679 or four years later, UCLA or Wisconsin or whoever comes 1:09:47.720 --> 1:09:50.960 along and says, we'd like to have come to play here, 1:09:51.439 --> 1:09:54.240 we'll buy your contract out. Well, you've got players that 1:09:54.400 --> 1:09:57.439 have committed to coming and playing for coach Johnson or 1:09:57.520 --> 1:10:02.080 coach Smith or whoever it may be, and suddenly they're going, well, 1:10:02.080 --> 1:10:03.640 wait to say, he's not even gonna be here. I 1:10:03.800 --> 1:10:06.600 want to leave it too. That's the reason why the 1:10:06.720 --> 1:10:10.760 whole thing started rambling downhill. It's like a little snowball 1:10:11.160 --> 1:10:13.280 that you push down a hill and eventually it turns 1:10:13.320 --> 1:10:17.080 into a great, big boulder. It's just all going to 1:10:17.120 --> 1:10:19.200 get out of control, and and you can see it 1:10:19.280 --> 1:10:20.080 happening already. 1:10:21.720 --> 1:10:22.519 That's just my opinion. 1:10:22.560 --> 1:10:24.519 I mean, I might be totally but. 1:10:24.600 --> 1:10:25.080 I'm with you. 1:10:25.240 --> 1:10:28.559 Uh, I guess, but I guess the Devil's advocate again, 1:10:28.640 --> 1:10:31.920 I am. I'm firmly with it there needs. I'm okay 1:10:31.960 --> 1:10:34.439 with the players being paid to some degree, but how 1:10:34.520 --> 1:10:38.200 it's being done I think is crazy. Like I mean, 1:10:38.479 --> 1:10:40.559 Joe Burrow can't in the middle of the year say, 1:10:40.640 --> 1:10:43.880 you know what, I decided that I want more money 1:10:43.960 --> 1:10:46.439 from uh, you know, the New York Giants, and I'm 1:10:46.439 --> 1:10:49.559 gonna have a better chance. No, there's a contract. Yeah, 1:10:49.600 --> 1:10:51.639 if you have a five year contract, you got to commit. 1:10:51.720 --> 1:10:54.439 And in college it's it's crazy you can leave a 1:10:54.479 --> 1:10:57.000 place and go to a place for the spring portal 1:10:57.680 --> 1:10:59.679 and and be there in the spring that another place 1:10:59.720 --> 1:11:02.560 can Again, the other side of the argument would be 1:11:03.680 --> 1:11:05.640 just a point on both sides, and people say, oh, 1:11:05.720 --> 1:11:08.240 this is ruining college football. College football has never been 1:11:08.320 --> 1:11:11.760 more popular. I mean, look at the TV ratings, Look 1:11:11.760 --> 1:11:13.400 at the fact that I and also and look at 1:11:13.439 --> 1:11:17.160 the fact that like Indiana, Indiana is like maybe the 1:11:17.320 --> 1:11:19.679 best football team in the nation right now and could 1:11:19.720 --> 1:11:23.120 be sustainable for years to come. Well because they have 1:11:23.360 --> 1:11:27.840 a good nil right, right, buddy, John Cougar Mellen Camp. 1:11:27.880 --> 1:11:30.680 I think is he's not. I'm just kidding. But nevertheless, 1:11:31.080 --> 1:11:33.479 you know, so that's the other side of it is 1:11:33.560 --> 1:11:36.200 some other places that were never ever going to be 1:11:36.280 --> 1:11:39.320 powers now can be. So it's it's certainly interesting and 1:11:39.439 --> 1:11:41.519 that's why it's such a great talking point. 1:11:42.360 --> 1:11:44.920 Coming up, we're gonna be talking to our good friend Deanrigez. 1:11:45.000 --> 1:11:47.879 He is out gazing at the stars in the bottom 1:11:48.000 --> 1:11:48.920 of the Grand Camp. 1:11:49.000 --> 1:11:49.360 I think he. 1:11:49.680 --> 1:11:51.240 I think I saw that he's at the bottom of 1:11:51.240 --> 1:11:53.400 the Greg Canyon the other day. He was, he was 1:11:53.760 --> 1:11:54.680 he hiked down there. 1:11:55.720 --> 1:11:55.960 Yeah. 1:11:56.160 --> 1:11:59.560 See, he's living a life. Come on, he's an astronomer 1:11:59.680 --> 1:12:02.519 to the man. He's a chopper down there. 1:12:03.240 --> 1:12:06.400 Yeah, he's got one of those luxury donkeys that breake 1:12:06.439 --> 1:12:08.600 him down there, with like the extra long fur and 1:12:09.360 --> 1:12:10.920 the padded the saddle. 1:12:11.320 --> 1:12:11.519 Yeah. 1:12:12.360 --> 1:12:14.360 Yeah, he ain't hooking down there, my friend. 1:12:15.760 --> 1:12:17.360 We'll be talking to him after the news right now 1:12:17.360 --> 1:12:19.800 on news radio seven hundred WLW. 1:12:20.320 --> 1:12:27.880 News Traffic and Weather. News Radio seven hundred WLW Cincinnati. 1:12:27.360 --> 1:12:30.960 Could be a step closer to allowing high school kids 1:12:31.400 --> 1:12:32.120 to be paid. 1:12:32.520 --> 1:12:35.200 This is the five oh two report. 1:12:34.920 --> 1:12:38.920 I'm Matt's breaking Now, Ohio high school athletes are now 1:12:39.200 --> 1:12:44.720 temporarily allowed to be paid in the debate over nil compensation, 1:12:44.920 --> 1:12:48.439 that's name, image and likeness. Ohio is one of just 1:12:48.560 --> 1:12:52.320 a handful of states that doesn't allow high school athletes 1:12:52.360 --> 1:12:56.320 to be compensated. The top wide receiver in the state, 1:12:56.520 --> 1:12:59.439 Jmir Brown of Wayne High School and the Dayton area, 1:12:59.800 --> 1:13:02.519 has hired an attorney to sue over the band. 1:13:02.640 --> 1:13:05.080 What being asked here is for a student athlete to 1:13:05.160 --> 1:13:08.880 be able to earn compensation, not to just be given compensation, 1:13:09.000 --> 1:13:11.400 but to earn it based on the licensing of their name, 1:13:11.400 --> 1:13:14.120 image and likeness for social media influencing and other things. 1:13:14.160 --> 1:13:17.519 And so that is an opportunity for high school student athletes. 1:13:17.680 --> 1:13:21.240 That's attorney Luke Fedlam who has now won a temporary 1:13:21.400 --> 1:13:25.719 restraining order on that state wide band, blocking it until 1:13:25.760 --> 1:13:29.439 another hearing that's coming up on December fifteenth. 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How does it work, Deane? 1:18:24.040 --> 1:18:26.880 That's pretty much got I just you know, anytime, I 1:18:27.040 --> 1:18:31.640 just make a few calls. Helicopter down, helicopter back up. No, 1:18:31.880 --> 1:18:34.640 it's a little less glamorous than that. But I am 1:18:34.720 --> 1:18:36.840 having a great time here at the Grand Canyon doing 1:18:36.920 --> 1:18:39.439 astronomy programs and doing a lot of hiking too. 1:18:39.760 --> 1:18:42.240 All right, and Dean, what in particular are you are 1:18:42.280 --> 1:18:43.519 you doing at the moment. 1:18:45.120 --> 1:18:48.280 Well, I'm getting ready for a program doing something tonight, 1:18:48.360 --> 1:18:50.760 doing a what's called star and constellation talk. We're going 1:18:50.800 --> 1:18:52.640 to go out kind of by the rim of the 1:18:52.680 --> 1:18:55.680 Grand Canyon. I'll point out some stars and constellations and 1:18:56.680 --> 1:18:59.920 spend some mythology and just answer a lot of astronomy questions. 1:19:00.040 --> 1:19:02.920 So I was the astronomer and residence here for a while, 1:19:03.080 --> 1:19:06.960 and they keep letting me come back. So it's been 1:19:07.080 --> 1:19:09.759 a great I've been out here for about ten days 1:19:10.160 --> 1:19:13.479 and it's a little interesting with the shutdown going on. 1:19:14.040 --> 1:19:17.360 Rangers are kind of not around, but the public is 1:19:18.439 --> 1:19:22.240 still here and everything's open and it's everybody's everybody's doing 1:19:22.320 --> 1:19:24.720 really well, everybody's behaving themselves. I have to stay here 1:19:24.760 --> 1:19:25.280 at the canyon. 1:19:25.720 --> 1:19:28.000 So where where are you based at the at the 1:19:28.320 --> 1:19:31.000 at this time? Are you down in the base of 1:19:31.040 --> 1:19:33.200 the canyon, down on the floor of the canyon, or 1:19:33.200 --> 1:19:36.240 are you where you usually are? I believe it's that 1:19:36.320 --> 1:19:38.639 there's some kind of lot or something at on the rim. 1:19:39.880 --> 1:19:42.920 I'm at the South Rim. That's the most popular section 1:19:43.040 --> 1:19:45.000 of the Grand Canyon, so that's the one's closest to 1:19:45.120 --> 1:19:47.200 like Phoenix and Las Vegas and that kind of thing, 1:19:48.280 --> 1:19:50.920 and so that's where the place for the classic views. 1:19:51.120 --> 1:19:54.280 And I get they give me a house to live in, 1:19:54.479 --> 1:19:58.000 so it's a pretty sweet digs here, and I can 1:19:58.120 --> 1:20:00.519 just walk over to the canyon and see it and 1:20:01.840 --> 1:20:04.559 it's a pretty nice setup. So earlier in the week 1:20:04.600 --> 1:20:07.160 I did go down into the canyon and walked all 1:20:07.160 --> 1:20:09.479 the way down the river. A lot of the trails 1:20:09.520 --> 1:20:13.640 are closed down there, and Phantom Branch, the community down there, 1:20:13.720 --> 1:20:16.840 is closed mostly because of the fire they had earlier 1:20:16.840 --> 1:20:19.320 in the year, so there's a lot of recovery going 1:20:19.400 --> 1:20:23.280 on here. But it was still just gorgeous to walk 1:20:23.360 --> 1:20:26.920 down all the way to the river, and and I 1:20:27.040 --> 1:20:29.280 pretty much had had it to myself since there are 1:20:29.280 --> 1:20:31.599 a lot fewer people down there now. 1:20:31.680 --> 1:20:31.880 Dean. 1:20:31.920 --> 1:20:34.240 You know, I'm not into conspiracy theories, but I have 1:20:34.400 --> 1:20:37.519 heard there are certain sections of the Grand Canyon that's 1:20:37.600 --> 1:20:41.519 blocked off, and you know the reasons why. Of course 1:20:41.720 --> 1:20:44.040 maybe you've heard, but again I don't want to get 1:20:44.080 --> 1:20:47.160 into that. But but nonetheless, or I mean, what is 1:20:48.000 --> 1:20:50.800 I mean, are there giant telescopes down there you can 1:20:51.160 --> 1:20:52.080 look at stuff at or. 1:20:52.120 --> 1:20:56.000 What That's one of the coolest things is that whenever 1:20:56.000 --> 1:20:58.639 I've done programs down you know, in the inner Canyon, 1:20:58.760 --> 1:21:02.360 so they call that, the access to that is basically 1:21:02.439 --> 1:21:06.160 by a foot, by mule, or by helicopter. If you're 1:21:06.560 --> 1:21:09.640 like in deep trouble, that's the only way you can 1:21:09.640 --> 1:21:12.600 actually use helicopters if they have to rescue you. And 1:21:12.760 --> 1:21:14.080 luckily they haven't had to do that to me, So 1:21:14.160 --> 1:21:17.960 that's good. But yeah, they have telescopes down at these stations, 1:21:18.120 --> 1:21:20.720 so I just hike down and I can use the 1:21:20.760 --> 1:21:24.960 telescopes there. As far as like out of bounds off 1:21:25.080 --> 1:21:28.160 limits areas, the only ones that I know of are 1:21:28.280 --> 1:21:32.960 because of like dangerous cliff situations where people fall to 1:21:33.000 --> 1:21:37.120 their deaths very easily. I think there's some uranium around 1:21:37.160 --> 1:21:42.559 there also, and mostly just they close off places because 1:21:42.600 --> 1:21:44.360 if you hike there, you're not going to come out 1:21:44.400 --> 1:21:46.040 the other side. That's pretty much what it is. 1:21:46.439 --> 1:21:51.880 Well, the conspiracy theory is there's like pyramids, like Egyptian 1:21:52.000 --> 1:21:55.120 pyramid type structures that are down in some of these cannes. 1:21:55.200 --> 1:21:57.200 But again, I'm not that one of those guys. 1:21:57.240 --> 1:22:02.559 I quite a bit of the canyon. I haven't seen 1:22:02.600 --> 1:22:05.919 it myself, and you know, I'm not on a government employee. 1:22:05.960 --> 1:22:07.640 I'm not shut down, so I can I give you 1:22:07.720 --> 1:22:08.320 the real Scooper. 1:22:08.360 --> 1:22:10.120 All right, Well, well, you know what, one day, you 1:22:10.160 --> 1:22:12.360 should just take off and just run right through the 1:22:12.479 --> 1:22:14.439 park that you're not allowed to go and dean and 1:22:14.600 --> 1:22:17.960 uncover these things. See if there are in fact pyramids 1:22:18.000 --> 1:22:21.560 and Egyptian like structures down in the Grand Canyon that 1:22:21.680 --> 1:22:23.680 the government is hiding from us because they don't want 1:22:23.760 --> 1:22:26.080 us to know, Dean, but you can tell us they don't. 1:22:26.240 --> 1:22:28.639 They don't want us know. That's true. So I will 1:22:28.680 --> 1:22:32.280 find out my next trip next time. I next time 1:22:32.320 --> 1:22:34.160 I come, I make sure to set that up. 1:22:34.520 --> 1:22:36.680 So Dean Reguez is our guest. And Dean, let me 1:22:36.800 --> 1:22:39.680 ask you, as far as hiking down there goes, how 1:22:39.760 --> 1:22:41.760 long does that take? Because I went to the Grand 1:22:41.840 --> 1:22:47.120 Canyon probably it was the early nineties, and I started 1:22:47.160 --> 1:22:50.360 to hike down there, and I got about halfway down 1:22:50.400 --> 1:22:51.480 and then I figured. 1:22:51.160 --> 1:22:53.679 I was like, this sucks a minute. 1:22:54.080 --> 1:22:55.280 I haven't walked back up. 1:22:56.800 --> 1:22:59.360 Well, well, if you made it halfway down, you might 1:22:59.360 --> 1:23:03.240 as well just kept on. But yeah, it is very difficult, 1:23:03.360 --> 1:23:06.200 that's the thing. And it's you know, to get to 1:23:06.439 --> 1:23:11.639 the river. Probably the quickest would be you know, it'd 1:23:11.680 --> 1:23:13.720 take you all day basically just to get down there 1:23:14.200 --> 1:23:16.599 and then to get back up. That's the real tough part. 1:23:17.520 --> 1:23:19.880 So for me when I go, I usually takes me 1:23:19.880 --> 1:23:22.439 about five hours to go down, and then I stay 1:23:23.080 --> 1:23:25.880 down there a few nights to recover, and then about 1:23:25.920 --> 1:23:28.240 six to seven hours to hike back all the way 1:23:28.280 --> 1:23:30.640 to the top. So this trip. I broke it up 1:23:30.640 --> 1:23:33.360 into two sections. I hiked halfway down to a place 1:23:33.400 --> 1:23:36.439 called have a Suphi Gardens and stayed there a couple 1:23:36.479 --> 1:23:39.640 of nights, and then hike down to the river and 1:23:39.760 --> 1:23:42.479 back up to that spot. So none of my hikes 1:23:42.520 --> 1:23:46.120 were crazy long, but they were still pretty tough. And 1:23:47.040 --> 1:23:49.320 you know, with all the rangers kind of on furlough 1:23:49.439 --> 1:23:52.320 right now, it's you know, I'm kind of some of 1:23:52.400 --> 1:23:55.200 the unofficial eyes and ears on the trail, and I 1:23:55.280 --> 1:23:58.200 have to say, my greatest asset is convincing people not 1:23:58.360 --> 1:24:00.840 to go down. That's my greatest have to say, so 1:24:00.960 --> 1:24:04.280 many lives as I say, don't do it, are you crazy? 1:24:04.400 --> 1:24:07.080 You'll never make it, And so I've stayed countless lives. 1:24:07.640 --> 1:24:10.519 That's right. I wonder how many times a year that 1:24:10.960 --> 1:24:14.680 you know, EMS crew's got to like helicopter's somebody out 1:24:14.720 --> 1:24:17.519 of there because they just can't walk up anymore, or 1:24:17.640 --> 1:24:20.360 somebody got hurt or broken ankle. You know, I bet 1:24:20.439 --> 1:24:20.960 it's a mess. 1:24:22.120 --> 1:24:25.360 Every single time I've been down to the bottom, they've 1:24:25.400 --> 1:24:29.160 had to evacuate somebody, like literally every single time they 1:24:29.439 --> 1:24:32.720 So it happens so frequently, and it's mostly people that 1:24:32.880 --> 1:24:35.280 you know, they they see their friends doing on Facebook 1:24:35.320 --> 1:24:36.000 and they're like, oh, I. 1:24:36.000 --> 1:24:36.400 Can do that. 1:24:36.560 --> 1:24:39.439 If builded that, I can do that, and uh yeah, 1:24:39.479 --> 1:24:43.320 they get themselves in big trouble and so but it's 1:24:43.479 --> 1:24:46.280 it is very strange to see people's you know, that 1:24:46.439 --> 1:24:49.280 they walk down so far without really a plan and 1:24:49.439 --> 1:24:52.640 they yeah, they So I've seen a lot of the evacuations. 1:24:53.120 --> 1:24:56.360 I've had to help people actually when I'm down there, 1:24:57.280 --> 1:25:02.200 and then mostly convince them to to stop walking. That's 1:25:02.240 --> 1:25:02.920 mostly what I do. 1:25:03.160 --> 1:25:06.680 So, Deine, I was telling that earlier. I know this 1:25:06.840 --> 1:25:11.080 movie has been out forever, but I finally finished watching 1:25:11.200 --> 1:25:14.160 The Martian Okay with with Matt Damon in it, and 1:25:14.520 --> 1:25:17.080 you know, it took me a long time, just because 1:25:17.080 --> 1:25:20.360 I usually fall asleep watching stuff. But anyway, but I 1:25:20.479 --> 1:25:22.760 was thinking, as you know, the many times we've had 1:25:22.800 --> 1:25:25.479 you on talking about trips to Mars and how long 1:25:25.520 --> 1:25:27.840 it would take, I feel like the dates and the 1:25:27.960 --> 1:25:30.080 times they would have to do it, we're pretty accurate 1:25:30.160 --> 1:25:32.240 to what you would. You had said, how much of 1:25:32.320 --> 1:25:34.760 that movie, I don't know if you can eat. I 1:25:34.800 --> 1:25:37.120 guess it's hard to say is real or not because 1:25:37.160 --> 1:25:39.840 no one's actually formed a colony on Mars. But how 1:25:39.920 --> 1:25:41.880 much of that do you think is within the realm 1:25:41.960 --> 1:25:44.960 of possibility of what it would be like on that planet. 1:25:46.160 --> 1:25:48.840 Yeah, it's very accurate. The the author of the book, 1:25:49.160 --> 1:25:53.600 Andy Weir, he researched this pretty well and he he 1:25:54.439 --> 1:25:58.360 gets it pretty accurate about the difficulties of going to Mars, 1:25:58.479 --> 1:26:02.360 living on Mars, and then getting back because yeah, you 1:26:02.640 --> 1:26:04.920 can't go just every day tomorrow is you have to 1:26:05.080 --> 1:26:07.760 have all the planets lined up and everything. So that's 1:26:07.800 --> 1:26:09.360 why you had to wait on the planet for so 1:26:09.479 --> 1:26:11.640 long and eat all his potatoes and everything, and so 1:26:11.760 --> 1:26:14.559 it's uh, that part was really accurate. 1:26:15.520 --> 1:26:15.640 Uh. 1:26:16.120 --> 1:26:18.920 You know, there's some nitpicky stuff that I could get into, 1:26:19.120 --> 1:26:21.679 but I'd say overall, that's one of the more accurate 1:26:21.760 --> 1:26:24.320 of the books and movies I've seen when it comes 1:26:24.360 --> 1:26:24.920 to astronomy. 1:26:25.920 --> 1:26:28.559 So but the uh, but that's what I was wondering. 1:26:28.640 --> 1:26:30.640 As far as the storms and wars and stuff, they 1:26:30.680 --> 1:26:32.040 are really that brutal up there. 1:26:33.360 --> 1:26:35.120 Oh well, now you get to that part. That was 1:26:35.160 --> 1:26:36.839 the part I was going to say, it's not accurate. 1:26:36.920 --> 1:26:39.400 You know, there's a windstorm, the whole thing. I don't 1:26:39.400 --> 1:26:41.000 want to spoil it for anybody. But the whole wind 1:26:41.040 --> 1:26:44.240 storm that that gets him stuck there wouldn't have actually happened. 1:26:44.520 --> 1:26:47.000 But you know, that's beside the point. Once he's there 1:26:47.040 --> 1:26:49.040 and he's stuck, then it all worked out, all right. 1:26:49.320 --> 1:26:49.800 Why is that? 1:26:49.920 --> 1:26:52.200 Why Why wouldn't the windstorms happen like that. 1:26:53.320 --> 1:26:55.559 Well, the windstorms kick up, that's for sure, but they 1:26:55.640 --> 1:26:58.800 wouldn't have enough force to like knock over a spacecraft. 1:26:59.400 --> 1:27:04.920 They the winds are extremely strong, but not there's not 1:27:05.080 --> 1:27:07.439 enough atmosphere to push you around. That's the thing. 1:27:08.960 --> 1:27:09.200 That was. 1:27:09.520 --> 1:27:11.519 Yeah, that was kind of the premise of the end 1:27:11.600 --> 1:27:13.760 of it, or without you know, spoiler alert here of 1:27:14.040 --> 1:27:16.160 why he could. They had to take all that weight 1:27:16.360 --> 1:27:18.360 off of the ship so he could get out of there. 1:27:18.560 --> 1:27:21.439 And the guy said, hey, the atmosphere isn't that thick, 1:27:21.560 --> 1:27:23.719 but we need to decrease some weight. 1:27:23.840 --> 1:27:26.960 So to your point, well, this is why you can't 1:27:26.960 --> 1:27:29.559 watch astronomy movies. Me, I'll just ruin it for everybody. 1:27:30.800 --> 1:27:33.839 You're a real drive. I'm possible. 1:27:35.600 --> 1:27:37.360 Let's go back to my first answer. I said it 1:27:37.400 --> 1:27:37.960 was pretty good. 1:27:39.960 --> 1:27:41.960 It's one of those guys where he knows what the movie, 1:27:42.240 --> 1:27:45.240 you know, he knows the topic of the movie. He's 1:27:45.640 --> 1:27:47.439 an expert in it, and you'll be sitting there and 1:27:47.479 --> 1:27:49.320 you're thinking, Wow, that's really cool, and he's going, no, 1:27:49.520 --> 1:27:50.679 that's stupid, stupid. 1:27:51.080 --> 1:27:54.000 It would be like you like watching a Beatles documentary 1:27:54.000 --> 1:27:56.519 as you right now. That didn't happen. That didn't happen either. 1:27:57.080 --> 1:27:57.360 I did. 1:27:58.080 --> 1:28:00.280 But I saw that Bob Dylan movie. I knew a 1:28:00.280 --> 1:28:02.439 little bit about Bob Dylan, and we're I'm saying there 1:28:02.560 --> 1:28:04.439 wasn't with dev and I go, well, that's stupid. That 1:28:04.520 --> 1:28:05.040 didn't happen. 1:28:06.800 --> 1:28:07.400 That's a movie. 1:28:09.640 --> 1:28:10.000 All right. 1:28:10.120 --> 1:28:13.400 Well, Dean, should we be watching for anything in the sky? 1:28:13.479 --> 1:28:16.160 What we have here, Well, we got a. 1:28:16.160 --> 1:28:17.880 Couple of things that are in the news. They've been 1:28:17.920 --> 1:28:20.080 talking about the comets that are in the sky. So 1:28:20.640 --> 1:28:22.280 we got a couple of comments that are up there. 1:28:22.360 --> 1:28:25.479 Ones in the evening, ones in the morning, right before sunrise. 1:28:26.040 --> 1:28:29.479 Both of them are not terribly bright and you know, 1:28:29.600 --> 1:28:31.479 great to look at. You need a telescope to see. 1:28:31.479 --> 1:28:33.800 I know there's been news reports and you could maybe 1:28:33.840 --> 1:28:36.640 see them naked eye. I say, no, way, that is 1:28:36.760 --> 1:28:39.680 not correct. So here I'm being the buzzkill again. So 1:28:39.920 --> 1:28:41.880 the comets that are in the news, you definitely need 1:28:41.960 --> 1:28:44.560 some telescopes to be able to see them, so I 1:28:44.760 --> 1:28:47.000 r I rate them is not super exciting. But the 1:28:47.080 --> 1:28:50.080 thing that is exciting is tonight, really late at night, 1:28:50.200 --> 1:28:53.479 you can start to see the orion Orion. It's meteor shower. 1:28:53.880 --> 1:28:57.160 This is the annual media shower happens every October, and 1:28:57.240 --> 1:28:59.519 this one should be a good one. You can see 1:28:59.560 --> 1:29:03.880 maybe a maybe two dozen shooting stars per hour if 1:29:03.880 --> 1:29:06.439 you stay up late enough. So that one. So that's 1:29:06.520 --> 1:29:10.040 the real scoop comments. I'd say, man, that's a good 1:29:10.360 --> 1:29:15.360 meteor shower. That's the highlight for tonight. I would say, all. 1:29:15.280 --> 1:29:17.080 Right with that, Dean Rigus, we will let you go. 1:29:17.200 --> 1:29:19.080 People want to find out more about you and what 1:29:19.200 --> 1:29:20.400 it is you do. Where can they go? 1:29:21.960 --> 1:29:24.559 Yep, I'm all about astronomy and the Grand Canyon right now. 1:29:26.320 --> 1:29:29.080 Astrodean dot com. That's my website. Just got Asterdean dot 1:29:29.120 --> 1:29:31.400 com follow up me and I have all my social 1:29:31.479 --> 1:29:33.599 media there too, and you can see the pictures I've 1:29:33.600 --> 1:29:36.800 taken from the Grand Canyon. It's an exciting place to 1:29:36.880 --> 1:29:38.920 be and really cool to see the night sky out here. 1:29:38.960 --> 1:29:41.200 But looking forward to being back in Cincinnati soon. 1:29:41.320 --> 1:29:43.560 So thanks guys being you're the best, buddy, Thank you 1:29:43.640 --> 1:29:44.000 so much. 1:29:45.040 --> 1:29:47.320 All right, keep looking up yep, see you buddy. 1:29:48.680 --> 1:29:49.200 What a gig? 1:29:49.360 --> 1:29:52.960 Yeah, no, kid man, I'm just sitting here thinking that's saying. 1:29:53.040 --> 1:29:54.120 I'm like, what a life. 1:29:54.200 --> 1:29:54.759 That's cool. 1:29:54.920 --> 1:29:57.799 We should have paid more attention in you know, science 1:29:57.880 --> 1:30:02.920 class and astronomy class. We'd be hanging out with starlets 1:30:03.640 --> 1:30:06.040 Harlot's at the bottom of the Grand Canyon. 1:30:06.040 --> 1:30:07.639 And I'll see, That's what I was going to say. 1:30:07.760 --> 1:30:13.560 I think that we would missed out on that work. Astronomy, astronomy, 1:30:13.680 --> 1:30:18.360 groopy chicks. I'm sure that they were the hottest girls 1:30:18.439 --> 1:30:19.479 in the in school. 1:30:20.120 --> 1:30:21.160 That's probably. 1:30:21.840 --> 1:30:24.640 But you know what, beggers can't be choosers or astronomers 1:30:24.720 --> 1:30:30.400 can't be piggy. I don't it's some' something like with 1:30:30.680 --> 1:30:34.639 the with that we chick in with traffic and weather, Rick, 1:30:34.720 --> 1:30:35.919 what is going. 1:30:35.720 --> 1:30:40.639 On from the U SEE Health Traffic Center. Mammogram same 1:30:40.720 --> 1:30:43.960 limesco five one three five eet four pink. Schedule your 1:30:44.000 --> 1:30:46.800 annual mammogram with do you See Health Expert Team five 1:30:46.960 --> 1:30:50.320 one three five feet four pink. 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We're still trying to wrap 1:33:03.760 --> 1:33:06.719 our heads around exactly the nature of this outage, but guys, 1:33:06.880 --> 1:33:09.320 it's undoubtedly a huge one. 1:33:09.439 --> 1:33:09.559 Right. 1:33:09.640 --> 1:33:12.960 This knocked over not just the Fortnite video game, but 1:33:13.080 --> 1:33:16.160 also Delta Airlines to a degree, and the website for 1:33:16.240 --> 1:33:19.800 the Wall Street Journal, Snapchat and others. This impacted a 1:33:19.960 --> 1:33:22.080 huge swath of the Internet and it can all be 1:33:22.200 --> 1:33:26.000 traced back to Amazon Web Services. So Amazon, we often 1:33:26.040 --> 1:33:28.599 think of them as an e commerce retailer, while they 1:33:28.720 --> 1:33:32.599 also provide cloud computing to a variety of businesses around 1:33:32.640 --> 1:33:35.120 the world. Good way to think about cloud computing is 1:33:35.479 --> 1:33:39.120 a way for like a small business to outsource computing power. 1:33:39.240 --> 1:33:41.240 So let's say you or I want to start like 1:33:41.320 --> 1:33:44.839 a small cafe. Well, I want to focus on making pastries. 1:33:44.840 --> 1:33:47.519 I don't want to focus on cybersecurity updates for the 1:33:47.600 --> 1:33:49.519 server that I keep in my kitchen. So I'm going 1:33:49.560 --> 1:33:52.240 to outsource that to the guys who know what they're doing. 1:33:52.400 --> 1:33:55.320 Amazon is the major player in this market. They account 1:33:55.320 --> 1:33:57.280 for about a third of it. The next third is 1:33:57.280 --> 1:34:00.640 accounted for by Microsoft and Google. That means that a 1:34:00.680 --> 1:34:03.360 lot of power is centralized in just three companies, and 1:34:03.479 --> 1:34:05.760 that's a big part of this story as well. When 1:34:05.800 --> 1:34:08.519 one gets knocked over, it does knock over a huge 1:34:08.600 --> 1:34:12.160 swath of the Internet, but that's basically what these services do. 1:34:13.000 --> 1:34:16.280 It appears that Amazon had an issue with what is 1:34:16.360 --> 1:34:20.080 known as their DNS or their domain name service guys. 1:34:20.120 --> 1:34:22.400 For fear of being too technical, this is a translation 1:34:22.680 --> 1:34:25.839 technology that takes what you type into a web browser 1:34:26.000 --> 1:34:29.880 Facebook dot Comabiesnews dot com and translates it into something 1:34:29.920 --> 1:34:33.040 that a computer can understand, an IP address in other words, 1:34:33.080 --> 1:34:36.280 so that is specifically what went wrong here. They were 1:34:36.320 --> 1:34:39.360 able to resolve the issue relatively early on, after about two. 1:34:39.360 --> 1:34:40.040 Hours or so. 1:34:40.479 --> 1:34:43.360 However, throughout the day we kept seeing more and more 1:34:43.439 --> 1:34:46.479 problems emerge, and that really speaks to exactly how deeply 1:34:46.560 --> 1:34:47.920 connected the modern Internet is. 1:34:48.520 --> 1:34:51.360 So Mike is obviously, when you hear something like this, 1:34:51.520 --> 1:34:55.280 your first concern is hacking, but it appears that wasn't 1:34:55.280 --> 1:34:56.960 an issue right No. 1:34:57.120 --> 1:35:00.200 Amazon says that this was not a cyber attack. There's 1:35:00.200 --> 1:35:04.040 no bad actors involved here, and that is, you know, 1:35:04.439 --> 1:35:05.200 to be expected. 1:35:05.280 --> 1:35:05.400 Right. 1:35:05.439 --> 1:35:09.400 We've seen outages like this happen before. Amazon itself experienced 1:35:09.439 --> 1:35:12.240 outages in twenty twenty three and twenty twenty one. Of course, 1:35:12.320 --> 1:35:15.280 last year, we also remember the crowd Strike outage that 1:35:15.400 --> 1:35:17.880 was a cybersecurity firm that chipped a faulty bit of 1:35:18.000 --> 1:35:21.680 code that knocks millions of computers around the world offline. 1:35:22.160 --> 1:35:25.840 So this is unfortunate, It is frustrating for many, but 1:35:26.000 --> 1:35:29.160 it is pretty normal. It's not unusual by any stretch 1:35:29.200 --> 1:35:31.759 of the imagination. Again, it goes back to that idea 1:35:31.840 --> 1:35:34.600 that we've centralized a lot of this power in the 1:35:34.680 --> 1:35:37.519 cloud computing space into just the hands of a handful 1:35:37.600 --> 1:35:40.599 of companies, right, just a few of them, and when 1:35:40.800 --> 1:35:43.200 one of them experiences problems, that's going to have major 1:35:43.240 --> 1:35:43.839 ripple effects. 1:35:43.960 --> 1:35:46.479 Now, is this like an opportunity for other companies to 1:35:46.680 --> 1:35:49.760 host servers and do all that sort of thing, So 1:35:50.360 --> 1:35:53.519 you know, kind of I guess spread out the misery 1:35:53.600 --> 1:35:54.280 maybe a little bit. 1:35:55.439 --> 1:35:59.480 Yeah, diversify I think is probably the worst yes security 1:36:01.080 --> 1:36:03.760 from cybersecurity experts over the next few days. But yeah, 1:36:04.040 --> 1:36:06.439 this idea that instead of, you know, to go back 1:36:06.479 --> 1:36:09.000 to that cafe example that we were talking about. Instead 1:36:09.000 --> 1:36:12.320 of putting all your eggs into the AWS basket, maybe 1:36:12.439 --> 1:36:15.240 now is an opportunity to think about diversifying that a 1:36:15.280 --> 1:36:17.760 little bit, putting a couple eggs into Google's basket, maybe 1:36:17.800 --> 1:36:21.320 a couple eggs into a smaller third parties basket, just 1:36:21.439 --> 1:36:24.760 to guard against this, because again, you know, we talk 1:36:24.800 --> 1:36:27.160 a lot today, or we've spoken a lot today about 1:36:27.200 --> 1:36:29.960 what the individual can do. The unfortunate answer is not 1:36:30.120 --> 1:36:32.800 a ton. Outside of that, if you are a small 1:36:32.840 --> 1:36:35.559 business owner, it's you know, maybe just spread the wealth 1:36:35.720 --> 1:36:38.400 a little bit to make sure that if one goes down, 1:36:38.520 --> 1:36:40.320 you know, your whole business doesn't collapse. 1:36:40.560 --> 1:36:42.679 All right with that, Mike, we will let you go, buddy, 1:36:42.720 --> 1:36:46.120 Thanks so much, of course, guys, take care. I am 1:36:46.200 --> 1:36:51.920 Mike Debuski from ABC Rock and other related well cyber news. 1:36:53.920 --> 1:36:59.160 This happened in Indy, Indianapolis based bankruptcy. Your attorney, Mark S. 1:36:59.320 --> 1:37:03.920 Zuckerberg is suing Meta, the company that Mark E. Zuckerberg owns, 1:37:04.120 --> 1:37:10.080 because the because his this guy's an attorney, his Facebook 1:37:10.160 --> 1:37:11.840 page keeps getting shut down. 1:37:13.760 --> 1:37:16.679 You're like, your name is Mark Zuckerberg you suck. 1:37:16.760 --> 1:37:22.120 Right, it's not funny, says the lawyer. Metta has been 1:37:22.160 --> 1:37:25.400 accused him of impersonating a celebrity and using a false name, 1:37:26.160 --> 1:37:30.280 says says mister Zuckerberg, a name that I've had way 1:37:30.360 --> 1:37:31.560 longer than Yeah. 1:37:31.360 --> 1:37:36.639 That's right, I had it first. That's hilarious. It's funny 1:37:36.680 --> 1:37:37.679 if you're not him. 1:37:37.680 --> 1:37:42.439 Correct, I'm uh. I'd rather not make a fight with him, 1:37:42.479 --> 1:37:44.800 But I don't know how to make the stop. It's 1:37:44.880 --> 1:37:47.479 not right and they need to stop it, and so 1:37:47.680 --> 1:37:51.280 they have. The meta is now confirmed after a lot 1:37:51.360 --> 1:37:54.200 of going back and forth at Zuckerberger's account is back 1:37:54.320 --> 1:37:57.040 up after being disabled in error. 1:37:58.240 --> 1:38:01.600 Because you know, I'm how many tens of thousands of 1:38:01.680 --> 1:38:05.760 employees are there right in at Facebook, And I'm sure 1:38:06.000 --> 1:38:09.080 at some point it comes up like there's this joker 1:38:09.240 --> 1:38:13.840 think he's trying to do and boom bumping him off there. 1:38:13.920 --> 1:38:16.240 And then it gets fixed and someone else sees it 1:38:16.320 --> 1:38:17.479 and he take it off. 1:38:18.240 --> 1:38:25.960 Didn't he used to be Abe Lincoln? Uh and rock 1:38:27.280 --> 1:38:30.519 and uh and again. Well, the cyber news just keeps 1:38:30.560 --> 1:38:36.519 on coming. This happened in Aurora, Colorado. This guy's a 1:38:36.760 --> 1:38:42.840 credit card or credit card fraud suspect and his name 1:38:43.760 --> 1:38:55.160 Alec Bogus. Uh So, anyways, mister Bogus was kind of 1:38:55.479 --> 1:38:59.240 he was on the lamb from law enforcement when he 1:38:59.439 --> 1:39:06.120 was approaching at the Indian Hot Springs Resort in Idaho Springs, Colorado. 1:39:07.240 --> 1:39:10.640 According to a new source, Bogus, who had announced who 1:39:10.680 --> 1:39:14.840 had the outstanding felony warrant, was just exiting the mud 1:39:14.920 --> 1:39:18.240 bat there wearing only a speedo. When the cops showed up, 1:39:20.000 --> 1:39:22.800 he ran up a wood a wooded mountain side and 1:39:22.920 --> 1:39:25.040 tried to hide in a shed, but was recovered a 1:39:25.120 --> 1:39:31.640 short time later, still covered in mud. I would just 1:39:32.080 --> 1:39:34.640 you know, you you ever take one of those mudbaso 1:39:34.880 --> 1:39:36.240 we Deb and I did. 1:39:36.160 --> 1:39:40.280 That, one of those like uh kind of natury ones. Yeah, 1:39:41.160 --> 1:39:41.600 well I was. 1:39:41.960 --> 1:39:45.479 It wasn't real, you know, not all that new agey stuff. 1:39:45.520 --> 1:39:48.160 But Deb and I did it on in California one 1:39:48.240 --> 1:39:48.840 time or out there. 1:39:48.920 --> 1:39:49.920 Did you get rub the mud? 1:39:51.160 --> 1:39:51.280 Oh? 1:39:51.360 --> 1:39:53.400 Yeah, what you get a little you're in kind of 1:39:53.560 --> 1:39:54.800 like a sarcophagus. 1:39:55.160 --> 1:39:56.040 It's weird, man. 1:39:56.280 --> 1:39:59.920 Oh boy, sign me up hot hot mud in a 1:40:00.120 --> 1:40:03.639 sarcophagus with death right. She had her own. 1:40:03.960 --> 1:40:08.679 Oh okay, we had sidewiyside graves or something. 1:40:11.040 --> 1:40:13.200 This it feels like to be buried next to each other. 1:40:13.280 --> 1:40:15.240 I would I would not like to be on the 1:40:15.320 --> 1:40:17.240 run from the law though having. 1:40:17.120 --> 1:40:20.479 Exited that, yeah, it's kind of sticky. 1:40:20.560 --> 1:40:22.800 And yeah, at least he had a speed one. 1:40:22.880 --> 1:40:27.360 I was naked. We really get the full experience. That's 1:40:27.520 --> 1:40:30.120 my man, right, That's what I mean when short. 1:40:30.000 --> 1:40:31.880 Changing this mother Nature's son. 1:40:32.200 --> 1:40:32.360 Right. 1:40:32.680 --> 1:40:35.679 Yeah, I said I need more right here. 1:40:35.800 --> 1:40:38.320 I'll leave you with that thought in mind. Oh God, 1:40:38.600 --> 1:40:40.960 as we had the traffic and weather, what is going on?