Speaker 1: Big time autumn, and not even the fun autumn yet
Speaker 1: because it's kind of like cold and rainy and wet
Speaker 1: and all that. But yeah, here we are. It's typical
Speaker 1: this time, and before we know it, it'll be very
Speaker 1: very cold. But lots of news though here ed we
Speaker 1: had planned on talking to our next guests about a
Speaker 1: different topic. But kind of some breaking news here.
Speaker 2: Around the run. Yeah, kind of brand new news all
Speaker 2: the all. This been all this rigmarole going on about
Speaker 2: frishes and Dollies and all of that stuff. And we've
Speaker 2: talked to this fella here at Dan Monk from WCPO
Speaker 2: nine News I team many times about the Dolly situation,
Speaker 2: and Dan Monk, first off, welcome back to the program.
Speaker 2: What do we know? Apparently they're shutting all of the
Speaker 2: Dollies down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, six of them will be closed by October twenty third,
Speaker 3: the company said in a press release today. And this
Speaker 3: comes just a few weeks after we did that story
Speaker 3: about how so few customers were in the parking lots
Speaker 3: and in the stores at Dolly's restaurants. So this question
Speaker 3: of whether Dolly's can take on Big Boy, I guess
Speaker 3: has been answered.
Speaker 1: They can't Big Boy one. Dolly's zero here. So I
Speaker 1: mean did they give I assume the reason why, as
Speaker 1: you said, just not enough people show it up. If
Speaker 1: they released a statement saying anything.
Speaker 3: All I said is that they thank the employees for
Speaker 3: their hard work and know that it's just not something
Speaker 3: they're going to be able to do. You know, when
Speaker 3: they announced that they were coming into this market to
Speaker 3: compete against Christia's Big Boy, they said they hoped to
Speaker 3: open as many as fifty stores over two years, and
Speaker 3: they never got it. I mean, six is the number
Speaker 3: they got to. And so we've been hearing apart from
Speaker 3: the fact that you know, to drive by the parking
Speaker 3: lots and they're always empty, we've been hearing that the
Speaker 3: land that invited them in initially they said they were
Speaker 3: going to do dozens of deals with this restaurant chain.
Speaker 3: We've been hearing that they have wanted to take those
Speaker 3: locations back because they weren't doing as well as had
Speaker 3: been expected. I think that the deal they had early
Speaker 3: on was that they were giving them a rent break,
Speaker 3: and then on the back end they were It's just
Speaker 3: they were they were going to get a percentage of
Speaker 3: the revenue that they got, so they were I think
Speaker 3: they were hoping that they would come in take the
Speaker 3: market by storm and then you know, make money on
Speaker 3: the back end and eventually end up with the same
Speaker 3: amount of rent that Frishians would have paid them had
Speaker 3: they not defaulted on their leases and got a victim.
Speaker 3: So it was a it was kind of a gamble
Speaker 3: by the Florida based landlord that owns all these locations.
Speaker 3: And now I think you can look for all of them,
Speaker 3: including the Fish's locations that are still closed, to be
Speaker 3: sold to either other restaurants or you know, they're talking
Speaker 3: about maybe selling the locations for car for car washes,
Speaker 3: or it's you know, storage centers. You know, they'll take
Speaker 3: any buyer. And the thing that Pusha's did really well
Speaker 3: when it was, you know, in its heyday, was they
Speaker 3: were great at picking locations. And these locations are still good,
Speaker 3: whether there's a restaurant in them or not, a lot
Speaker 3: of traffic and a lot of interest by potential owners,
Speaker 3: people who want to lease that location for some other purpose.
Speaker 1: And Dan, look, I'm not a restaurant tycoon here, but
Speaker 1: I just felt like their rollout wasn't great, Like, you know,
Speaker 1: they never really had a big promotional effort, you know,
Speaker 1: not trying to make it about it. I mean I
Speaker 1: never advertise on this station. There's never never explaining what
Speaker 1: it was and what their goal was. You would hear
Speaker 1: things in the news and we would talk about obviously
Speaker 1: you would write about it, but there was never like
Speaker 1: a definitive like this is what we are, this is
Speaker 1: what we're trying to be. And as you would know
Speaker 1: very well, Dan, Cincinnati is a very kind of loyal
Speaker 1: to its past kind of place. And had they found
Speaker 1: a way to kind of tie in. Boy that that
Speaker 1: great burger with tartar sauce on it that you loved
Speaker 1: as a kid, well now you can get it and
Speaker 1: you know that kind of thing. I just didn't feel
Speaker 1: like that the rollout was was done well. Do you
Speaker 1: agree or disagree?
Speaker 3: No, I agree that. I mean the only rollout they
Speaker 3: had was public relations, and when they opened their first
Speaker 3: couple of locations, you know, they got some media coverage
Speaker 3: out of that. They didn't follow it up with advertising
Speaker 3: or promotional offers, you know, buy one, get one kind
Speaker 3: of deals or whatever. They didn't follow it up with
Speaker 3: a lot of market presence, and you could see the
Speaker 3: if you drove passed these locations. You know, for the
Speaker 3: first couple of weeks, they were crowded, the parking lots
Speaker 3: were full, but then after that they kind of people
Speaker 3: lost interest and you could you could see that the
Speaker 3: customers kind of away from those locations. You know. I
Speaker 3: can remember just a few months after the Del High
Speaker 3: location opened, I drove fashion was surprised by how few
Speaker 3: cars there were in the parking lot. And then ultimately
Speaker 3: when I did that story, I don't know, a month
Speaker 3: or so ago, Uh, I went to Del High and
Speaker 3: I found one car in the lot and one diner inside,
Speaker 3: So weren't good.
Speaker 2: We're talking to Dan Monk from the I team a
Speaker 2: Channel nine, and Dan, from everything I heard, I got
Speaker 2: the impression that the food and the service was you know,
Speaker 2: kind of one point. But is it just was it
Speaker 2: just as Rocky pointed out this area being so provincial,
Speaker 2: you know that, did we just kind of turn our
Speaker 2: back on him and just say it was almost like
Speaker 2: you resented the fact that they were here.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean it started out that way. The reviews
Speaker 3: we got from people who were dining there the week
Speaker 3: or for first couple of weeks after they opened, they
Speaker 3: thought the food was comparable to fishes. But by the end,
Speaker 3: you know, I mentioned the Del High location. I talked
Speaker 3: to a guy who was waiting in the in the
Speaker 3: in the in the line for the drive through, and
Speaker 3: he said he had trouble finding something to order. They
Speaker 3: were out of so many things. So, you know, I
Speaker 3: think that as the as people stayed away, the service
Speaker 3: got worse. They lost employees. They didn't keep the original
Speaker 3: employees that they hired when they opened these locations, and
Speaker 3: they had plans to open a Bridge down location. They
Speaker 3: never got there because after passing the health inspections to open,
Speaker 3: they just never They never opened the restaurant. I don't
Speaker 3: think they were fully staffed. So yeah, they had trouble operationally,
Speaker 3: and I think the food quality went downhill this time
Speaker 3: went on as well.
Speaker 1: Damn Lung's our guest w c PO and Dan. So
Speaker 1: what I know, there's still some fishes that are operating.
Speaker 1: Their are privately owned, right, is this a window where
Speaker 1: you know, hey, maybe these people are out there are
Speaker 1: still craving a big boy type sandwich. Maybe some more
Speaker 1: freshes people kind of dive into those or no.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: They are privately owned, but they're effectively owned by the
Speaker 3: same company, the Atlanta based company that owned them after
Speaker 3: twenty twenty twenty fifteen. So it's really the same ownership
Speaker 3: they have you know, operators who are different. They don't
Speaker 3: have a commissary anymore. They buy their food, you know,
Speaker 3: independently from food wholesalers, and so it's not necessarily the
Speaker 3: same bushes as existed before. But there are still thirty
Speaker 3: one locations open under the Fish's Big Boy name, and
Speaker 3: ten of those locations are in Greater are in Cincinnati,
Speaker 3: the Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: All right with that, Dan, we will let you go. Buddy,
Speaker 2: Thanks for switching gears with us and talking about this
Speaker 2: as we discuss. This is brand new news, so thanks.
Speaker 3: So much, thank you.
Speaker 2: Thanks our good friend Dan Monk from the IT team
Speaker 2: on Channel nine. And I still had never never eaten
Speaker 2: out of dollars. Yeah, I think I saw, I saw
Speaker 2: one or two. I don't remember where they were at.
Speaker 2: But you know what, why can't fishes bring start kind
Speaker 2: of I mean, not start over. Obviously you have a
Speaker 2: name to build on, but dumb it down, man, Let
Speaker 2: go of the dinners and all that stuff. Make it
Speaker 2: back to what we all remember. Buddy boys, big boys blah,
Speaker 2: blah blah, fish sandwiches, fish sandwich at Boom and rings.
Speaker 1: Kind of the the in and out burger model. They
Speaker 1: do burgers, do shakes, do fries. Yeah, and just kind
Speaker 1: of own that sort of thing. Yeah, I think it
Speaker 1: certainly could work. People love those sandwiches a running. I
Speaker 1: just see the dollars things. They never never marketed it,
Speaker 1: never known. People kind of really knew again what their
Speaker 1: goal was other than kind of be like fishes but
Speaker 1: not enough to get sued kind of thing. Honestly, that's
Speaker 1: kind of what it felt like to me, is like, well,
Speaker 1: we're fishes, but yeah we're not really big boys, but
Speaker 1: we're gonna serve big boys. We're not gonna come. It's weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like, we're not fishers. What are you
Speaker 2: talking about? Big boys on our name?
Speaker 1: But if you want frishes in here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we're a lot like fishes. Well we're not fishes.
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Speaker 2: Six so cold. Well, the supposed searches like fritches light right,
Speaker 2: and that was that. I've totally forgotten what Dan was saying,
Speaker 2: but they had their original plan was opened like fifty.
Speaker 1: Dollars fifty yeah, And first of all, just that alone
Speaker 1: seems aggressive. Let's start with five, right, and then maybe
Speaker 1: we'll make it ten and then no, we're fifty.
Speaker 2: So they no marketing, no nothing, no rollout.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So if you didn't hear it, they got to six
Speaker 2: and now they're closing all.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I've never been to one. I now wish I would
Speaker 1: have gone one. I was serious.
Speaker 2: If it was the first hand account, Well, let's stalk
Speaker 2: to a guy who I believe was there. Hey, Chris
Speaker 2: and blue Ash, what did you think of it?
Speaker 10: I you know, I was specifically addressing the frishes that
Speaker 10: were still open. I've been to a Dolly's and it
Speaker 10: was the same kind of response.
Speaker 4: Different food, suppliers.
Speaker 10: So from what I understand, one in Eastgate ran out
Speaker 10: of food as well because they were waiting to run
Speaker 10: out of the existing supplies. And then when the new
Speaker 10: wholesalers started bringing in the new food like this. I mean,
Speaker 10: I'm six two two forty. I like my breakfast bars.
Speaker 2: Seeing you walk in, dude.
Speaker 10: See the sausage and gravy, you know, some of their staples,
Speaker 10: the biscuits and gravy, stuff like that were just not
Speaker 10: even close.
Speaker 4: And I never went back. So yeah, the foods players
Speaker 4: definitely changed everything.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Again, Look, you can point to all kinds of different
Speaker 1: things about why it didn't work, but for a restaurant,
Speaker 1: at the top of the list must be the food's
Speaker 1: gotta be good. Right, There's all kinds of other things
Speaker 1: you gotta consider, but the damn it, the food's gotta
Speaker 1: be good. And maybe that's wasn't the case.
Speaker 4: Amen. Yeah, all right, you guys, Yeah, thank.
Speaker 2: You, thanks Chris.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: See, I think a lot of people and rightfully, I
Speaker 2: guess rightfully so, but I think it's human nature. You
Speaker 2: kind of would walk into one of those places with
Speaker 2: a chip on your shoulder. All right, you're taking over
Speaker 2: the thing that I grew up on and I always
Speaker 2: love first is you better be amazing, right, this better
Speaker 2: be worth it. And then you go in there and like, ah,
Speaker 2: that sucks.
Speaker 1: Well, to your point, Cincinnati folks already walk in that
Speaker 1: place going oh, this place is gonna suck, right, so
Speaker 1: you gotta be that much better to be like, wow, Okay,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I should have given these guys a better shot,
Speaker 1: and that wasn't what was happening.
Speaker 2: You needed to really kick ass, knock it off.
Speaker 1: And but to your point, if if you just specialize
Speaker 1: in like one, even if like the early roll out is, hey,
Speaker 1: we may ask some menu items, but we know YOUU Cincinnatians.
Speaker 1: You love big boys and super big boys and and
Speaker 1: fish sandwiches and all that. That's what we're gonna hit.
Speaker 1: And we're gonna run specials and that's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1: Let's go.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna worked, see I man, I used to go, well,
Speaker 2: there was a when I first moved to town. I
Speaker 2: lived in the Clifton area. There was the fishes there
Speaker 2: on Short Vine. I went there all the time.
Speaker 12: Uh.
Speaker 2: Then I moved up north of town. There was one
Speaker 2: in Montgomery. I used to go to all the time,
Speaker 2: and those are long gone. But I just noticed over
Speaker 2: the course of time, by the time wh kids we
Speaker 2: used to take them to the breakfast bar, right, and
Speaker 2: you know, and and I just noticed that it was
Speaker 2: like the help wasn't didn't do it anymore, and the
Speaker 2: food quality was.
Speaker 1: Man, well, then that's what started the whole thing is, yeah,
Speaker 1: just the food quality dropped. And again that that's the
Speaker 1: number one thing you must go back to as a
Speaker 1: restaurant owner. Is our food good. Okay, we got all
Speaker 1: our fires, we got to put out and things we
Speaker 1: got to consider, but is our food good? And if
Speaker 1: it's no, then.
Speaker 2: Well, coming up at four o'clock, we got our old
Speaker 2: buddy Nick Neanaka's was a restaurant expert, and he's going
Speaker 2: to talk about this very style.
Speaker 1: And you know, to be fair, that is probably the
Speaker 1: issue is to make food good. The price is he's
Speaker 1: got to be exorbitantly high, because even decent food, all right,
Speaker 1: or bad food is expensive these days. And yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what we're get into a nicke at four o'clock.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember when well because I'm old, but going
Speaker 2: out and getting a nice meal, man, you could go out,
Speaker 2: get yourself a couple of cocktails, a little wine, nice
Speaker 2: couple of steaks and stuff, you know, lay down a
Speaker 2: nice tip. It'd be a little over one hundred bucks.
Speaker 2: Maybe you kidding me. You can't go to like freaking
Speaker 2: you know what you talked about going out and it
Speaker 2: was one hundred bucks when we're taking your kids out to.
Speaker 1: Chili establishment and it's you know, yeah, it's sixty bucks
Speaker 1: for a family of five with you know, two of
Speaker 1: them little kids.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Coming up, we're going to be talking to our good
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Speaker 1: Which I don't understand, but uh, all I know is
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Speaker 1: were some issues and it was a problem.
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Speaker 9: More did a few of.
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Speaker 2: I started to suggest because you ran into some flight
Speaker 2: difficulties over the weekend, Yes, I did. But this I
Speaker 2: thought maybe that this might have caused that. But this
Speaker 2: was yours was Saturday night, right, this was last night.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was weather, or if it
Speaker 1: was just the fact it was United Airlines or just
Speaker 1: the fact that I was flying out of DC.
Speaker 2: But anyway, well, let's talk about this event that happened
Speaker 2: last night with our good friend Dave Hatter. So, Dave,
Speaker 2: this web service of the cloud, the Amazon Cloud go
Speaker 2: explain because Rocky and I were talking. Neither of us
Speaker 2: know what the cloud is. We've heard of it, we
Speaker 2: don't know what it is.
Speaker 19: You know, guys, in the most basic terms, the cloud
Speaker 19: is really just someone else's computer. So that you going
Speaker 19: out and buying a computer aka server to run some
Speaker 19: kind of service on, think printer sharing, file sharing, whatever. Said.
Speaker 19: If you having that infrastructure yourself, you're outsourcing it to
Speaker 19: someone else. That's a little more complicated than that, of course,
Speaker 19: but in the most basic terms, you're just based offloading
Speaker 19: outsourcing services to someone else. And in this case, Amazon
Speaker 19: Web Services. A lot of people don't realize how much
Speaker 19: Amazon is into, you know, a long time ago, to
Speaker 19: support a lot of their own initiatives, including their Amazon website,
Speaker 19: they developed something called Amazon Web Services and it's the
Speaker 19: cloud based platform that you can purchase resources from. So again,
Speaker 19: rather than you buying a server or run a database
Speaker 19: on and buying a server or run your ERP system,
Speaker 19: Nitor or whatever you might need to do for your business,
Speaker 19: just about anything you could possibly provide for yourself, either
Speaker 19: by building yourself or buying software from someone like a
Speaker 19: Microsoft or someone and running it on your own devices
Speaker 19: like you would.
Speaker 4: Have Let's say twenty years ago.
Speaker 19: You can dump that into Amazon Web Services, and a
Speaker 19: lot of people have done that. From recent stats I
Speaker 19: saw it looks like about thirty percent of other cloud
Speaker 19: based services, things that you might use like Venmo or
Speaker 19: you know.
Speaker 4: I saw some headlines here that apparently.
Speaker 19: Some airlines were affected by this. A lot of companies
Speaker 19: have outsourced their services and capabilities into Amazon Web Services,
Speaker 19: so just like they might Microsoft. Right, Microsoft has some
Speaker 19: of the called Azure, Google has Google Cloud. They're the
Speaker 19: three big players, So most businesses that would outsource some
Speaker 19: type of services are using one of those three. And
Speaker 19: you can see just how big Amazon Web Services is
Speaker 19: by the sheer volume of outages today. I mean, you know,
Speaker 19: all kinds of different services, not just Amazon services, like
Speaker 19: apparently ring doorbells were down, which really, you know, hurts
Speaker 19: my feeling. Guys, you know how much I allow to
Speaker 19: be Internet things anyway, But you can see how big
Speaker 19: this impact was by the sheer number of different services
Speaker 19: that were down. And this also really gets to the
Speaker 19: heart of third party risk, which ironically, I just did
Speaker 19: a presentation on Friday. The idea that as I outsource
Speaker 19: more of my services and capabilities for my business or
Speaker 19: my organization to a third party to provide that if
Speaker 19: it goes down, well, that impacts me. So it's been
Speaker 19: a wild day, and you know, it looks like things
Speaker 19: are mostly back from what I can tell, but it
Speaker 19: looks like there were also some false starts along the way.
Speaker 1: So what exactly happened then to Amazon web server? Was
Speaker 1: it hacked? Was it an operator error sort of situation?
Speaker 4: What was it?
Speaker 19: Well, so far I haven't seen anyone that's reporting there
Speaker 19: was any hacking, it looks like. And so one of
Speaker 19: the reasons why people with outsource right is you can
Speaker 19: do things at scale much more quickly and much less expensively.
Speaker 19: Now you are paying a subscription service when you use
Speaker 19: these tools, and you know, depending on how you use
Speaker 19: it and how much resources you consume, it could ultimately
Speaker 19: be more expensive in the long run. But generally speaking,
Speaker 19: if you just want to quote spin out the server
Speaker 19: real fast, it's fast and easy to do this. And
Speaker 19: they have multiple data centers, so you have some redundancy.
Speaker 19: The idea that it's data center A goes down, data
Speaker 19: center B takes over, and your stuff keeps working. Obviously
Speaker 19: that didn't work as well today as it perhaps it
Speaker 19: could have. But it looks like in their US East
Speaker 19: one region data centers they have some outage. Again, it
Speaker 19: does not appear to be hacked from what I can tell,
Speaker 19: although you know, guys, we've talked about this a lot
Speaker 19: over the years, and sometimes after more due diligence is done,
Speaker 19: more forensics are done, you find out that whatever the
Speaker 19: initial reporting on something was is not what actually happened.
Speaker 19: But it looks like, and without getting too nerdy on
Speaker 19: it is something called DNS, the Main Name System. It's
Speaker 19: a way to resolve an English like name like seven
Speaker 19: hundred WLW dot com to the IP address that makes
Speaker 19: it possible to find something on the Internet. From what
Speaker 19: I could tell, it looks like there were some DNS
Speaker 19: issues that knocked out Dynamo dB, which is a database
Speaker 19: that a lot of people use when they're on Amazon
Speaker 19: Web Services. And then that just started sort of a
Speaker 19: cascading effect of knocking other things off. And then it
Speaker 19: looks like, you know, you can go to Amazon and
Speaker 19: then for what it's worth, if you're a business out there,
Speaker 19: whether it's Amazon or Microsoft or Google you might be
Speaker 19: using for some part of your business. They all have
Speaker 19: dashboards you can go to and try to understand like
Speaker 19: what is happening when these things go down? So do
Speaker 19: you go to the Amazon Service health dashboard. They kind
Speaker 19: of give you an ongoing log if you will, of
Speaker 19: what's been done over time. But it looks like that
Speaker 19: caused some cascading errors. And then as that went down,
Speaker 19: that started to knock off other people like Zoom, Slack, Canva,
Speaker 19: Roadblocks and other cloud based services that you would think
Speaker 19: would be their own service, but they're actually using Amazon
Speaker 19: Web Services in the back end to support.
Speaker 4: Whatever offering they're providing to you. Again, it gives you,
Speaker 4: It shows.
Speaker 19: You just how prevalent third party risk is as we
Speaker 19: rely more and more on all these digital services. And
Speaker 19: that it's where I forget. The one thing that this
Speaker 19: really shows guys, and I know you guys will dig this.
Speaker 19: Think how awesome would be if we had this awesome
Speaker 19: digital ID from the government to control everything you did
Speaker 19: and everything you bought when a system like this went down,
Speaker 19: because apparently it knocked some of those out as well
Speaker 19: around the world. Think how awesome it would be if
Speaker 19: you couldn't buy anything or really do anything because your
Speaker 19: digital ID was down because of some sort of Again,
Speaker 19: what appears to be just an error. At this point.
Speaker 1: Now we're entering matrix territory, and I like it.
Speaker 5: I'm with you.
Speaker 1: There's other countries like that. They write that. I mean
Speaker 1: in China for instance, that isn't like like the currency
Speaker 1: kind of controlled and it's all online and there's you know,
Speaker 1: certain times you can buy this and other times you
Speaker 1: can't buy that. Am I incorrect in saying this?
Speaker 19: Yeah, like your social credit score and so forth. And
Speaker 19: here's the guy on X James Melville, spot the problem
Speaker 19: with a mandate toorre digital ID controlled by the government,
Speaker 19: and he has a screenshot of gov dot UK, the
Speaker 19: government gateway, with it being down, presumably because of Amazon
Speaker 19: Web Services dn M. So yeah, you know, I am
Speaker 19: fundamentally against digital ID for any number of reasons, not
Speaker 19: the least of which is whether it's some sort of
Speaker 19: error in the services that make it possible or some
Speaker 19: sort of attack by an adversarial nation state like China.
Speaker 19: And imagine if you could knock that out, and then
Speaker 19: imagine that you could knock it out for days or weeks,
Speaker 19: the chaos and the problems.
Speaker 4: That that would cause.
Speaker 19: So again, at this point, guys, it does not appear
Speaker 19: to be hacking. There's no indication of that. No one
Speaker 19: is reporting that. Amazon of course is you know, pretty
Speaker 19: much said that, you know, it was a DNS problem
Speaker 19: that caused Dynamo dB to go down, and then that
Speaker 19: started to knock other services off, and then they had
Speaker 19: to do multiple fixes along the way to get everything
Speaker 19: back up. And again, from what I can tell from
Speaker 19: the most current reporting I could find, most services are
Speaker 19: back now. But this really should be a wake up
Speaker 19: call to everyone that's out there again about the idea
Speaker 19: of third party risk if you're just going out and
Speaker 19: signing up for the first thing you find, if you're
Speaker 19: not doing any betting, because again, Amazon Web Services, if
Speaker 19: you're in the business like me, they're one of the
Speaker 19: eight hundred pound earlists there Again, roughly thirty percent of
Speaker 19: the entire Internet is ultimately supplied by.
Speaker 4: Amazon Web Services.
Speaker 19: That you will you know, the idea that you as
Speaker 19: a business need to have your business working and available
Speaker 19: around the clock or whatever. If you're not carefully vetting
Speaker 19: these services, you know, what do you think the mom
Speaker 19: and pop shop down the street is capable of versus
Speaker 19: someone like Amazon, who is raking in billions of dollars
Speaker 19: a year just from Amazon Web Services alone. I mean,
Speaker 19: if you dig into their revenue stream, you'll see if
Speaker 19: AWS isn't number one, it's near the top of the
Speaker 19: way they produce revenue with Amazon. So it's a powerful
Speaker 19: and important capability for them and then also for all
Speaker 19: of the people that rely on it to provide their services. Again,
Speaker 19: I'm just reading some headlines the Zoom Slack canva. I
Speaker 19: think United Airlines many other businesses were impacted by this today.
Speaker 1: Well and Dave, We've talked about this a lot, but
Speaker 1: I feel like it comes back to the same issue,
Speaker 1: and that is, especially when it comes to tech, people
Speaker 1: don't know how it works. They don't want to know
Speaker 1: how it works. They just want to work all the
Speaker 1: time and expect that it's going to work.
Speaker 20: Right.
Speaker 1: So, I guess what is the going forward? Do you
Speaker 1: see this happening more or or? I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: most people don't know how to open up their own
Speaker 1: server and do all that. Other's like, hell, well that's
Speaker 1: way over my head. I'll just pay Amazon to do that.
Speaker 1: And I guess that can get you in trouble.
Speaker 19: Well, you know, that's a good question, Rocky. Do I
Speaker 19: think there'll be more of this? I think potentially there
Speaker 19: will now again, these guys are at the top of
Speaker 19: the heap in terms of their capabilities and so forth,
Speaker 19: and it'll be really interesting over the next few days
Speaker 19: to get a more after action report or post mortem,
Speaker 19: if you will, over what really happened. Once the dust
Speaker 19: kind of settles around this and the services are back
Speaker 19: online and you know, you can build redundancy. It's one
Speaker 19: of the things we preach all the time at interest
Speaker 19: to customers to think about resiliency is what is an
Speaker 19: outage in downtime going to do to your business? You know,
Speaker 19: can you withstand not being able to operate for a
Speaker 19: day or two days or a week, Because if you're
Speaker 19: willing to spend enough money, you know, you can almost
Speaker 19: always build a system that will give you what we
Speaker 19: nerds like to call five of uptime. I mean, it's like,
Speaker 19: you know, it's it's up almost one hundred percent of
Speaker 19: the time, but that gets really expensive and you know
Speaker 19: it may not necessarily be warranted. I think, you know.
Speaker 19: When Again, the key thing I would encourage everyone that's
Speaker 19: out there to think about, is okay third party risk
Speaker 19: when I sign up for some cloud based service for
Speaker 19: whatever reason, if it's mission critical to my business. You know,
Speaker 19: what is the backup plan? What does an outage mean
Speaker 19: for me? Can I spend more money and get more services?
Speaker 4: Again?
Speaker 19: This is pro if you think about it. When's the
Speaker 19: last time you heard about an outage of this scale?
Speaker 19: And the last time I can remember was when CrowdStrike
Speaker 19: caused an outage and that was not a cloud based thing.
Speaker 19: That was an essentially an anti virus agent that went
Speaker 19: bad and you know, knocked out a bunch of the
Speaker 19: Windows computers that it was running on. So, you know,
Speaker 19: I think there is the potential to see more at
Speaker 19: this because more and more people rely on these days.
Speaker 19: And my real concern about all this has always been
Speaker 19: until we get serious as a society about buildings that
Speaker 19: are resilient and robust and are very difficult, if not impossible,
Speaker 19: to knock out and obviously nothing is it possible? As
Speaker 19: we rely more and more of this stuff, guys, you know,
Speaker 19: the societal risk continues to grow. That's why we need
Speaker 19: things like the Cybersegerity and infrastructure security agencies, Secure by
Speaker 19: Design IDEA and software bill of materials so you understand
Speaker 19: what you're signing up for and have some visibility into
Speaker 19: these services and transparency as opposed to you just hope
Speaker 19: it doesn't go out. And again, this doesn't happen very often,
Speaker 19: but when it does happen, it causes a lot of chaos.
Speaker 19: And again, imagine if you were digital IDs were all
Speaker 19: connected to this and that system just went down and
Speaker 19: you basically were cut off. What a bad idea that
Speaker 19: would be and how unfortunate.
Speaker 4: That would be for society.
Speaker 19: So essentially, yes, we don't need digital idea. It's a
Speaker 19: terrible idea, you know, central bank, digital currency, all these things.
Speaker 19: It's a bad idea for many reasons. But this outage,
Speaker 19: just in the last day shows you how how catastrophic.
Speaker 9: Did it be.
Speaker 19: And now imagine if it turns out this was some
Speaker 19: sort of nation state actor like China or Russia that
Speaker 19: caused this, And imagine if they wouldn't have been able
Speaker 19: to Again, assuming it's all fixed, and that what I
Speaker 19: can tell, it looks like most everything is back. Now
Speaker 19: this went on for days or couldn't be fixed for weeks.
Speaker 19: The kind of chaos this would cause. All right, well, uh,
Speaker 19: it's it's not just games like roadblocks, it's United airlines,
Speaker 19: it's all kinds of things. So anyway, I'll shut up.
Speaker 2: I see before like my son's uh with their if
Speaker 2: their game access goes down, that is a natural, uh
Speaker 2: national catastrophe with the with that day. We will let
Speaker 2: you go, buddy, thanks so much.
Speaker 19: I always want to pleasure guys.
Speaker 2: Thanks Dave had He and yeah, big deal. It didn't
Speaker 2: affect me at all, but obviously it affected a lot
Speaker 2: of people.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: It's again, it's just one of those things people don't
Speaker 1: give a damn how it works. It just needs to work.
Speaker 1: I mean electricity, I mean, do you know exactly how electricity? No,
Speaker 1: but when you flip that switch, it better go on
Speaker 1: or you're all kinds of upset. That's kind of the
Speaker 1: same thing, but like a little more complicated. And there's
Speaker 1: clouds and there's servers, and there's all this other.
Speaker 5: Stuff with that.
Speaker 2: I don't even know how this is a microphone works.
Speaker 2: But let's let's see. Rick has the traffic for us.
Speaker 1: It's the magic of radius.
Speaker 2: The magic of radius. They're an old ad campaign like that,
Speaker 2: the magic. Yeah, we're magical unicorns here.
Speaker 6: That's exactly what we keep telling ourselves, you know, with
Speaker 6: that digital idea. The only thing I hear is another
Speaker 6: password I gotta remember I don't need that. I mean,
Speaker 6: for the love of God, got enough.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that that is annoying.
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Speaker 2: in Oklahoma asking me if I went in Mexican Food
Speaker 2: tonight for dinner. Where does that come from?
Speaker 6: But go ahead, I reckon, just well, maybe it's a
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Speaker 2: Enforcing tough menu choices, the call, overhead costs, you know, inflation, marketing,
Speaker 2: hiring runner restaurant man. I tell you, I used to
Speaker 2: think that that was something I would have wanted to do.
Speaker 1: Uh huh, No, not not at all. And I think
Speaker 1: a lot of it all stemmed back to COVID and
Speaker 1: just how how much everyone was lied to and all
Speaker 1: the dumb things they put in place. But it drove
Speaker 1: prices through the roof it. You know, I never heard
Speaker 1: the term supply chain issue more during that time, and
Speaker 1: I think you continue to hear it. But you know,
Speaker 1: it's certainly tough for these guys to own restaurants. I
Speaker 1: definitely feel for them. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: you're not in this to provide free food. You're into
Speaker 1: This is a business, and you got to make some
Speaker 1: money off of it. But it's getting tougher and tougher
Speaker 1: because those prices just kind of keep rising.
Speaker 2: Well, it says here, blah blah blah blah. The basic
Speaker 2: math is whatever product you have, you should divide by three,
Speaker 2: and that's what the product should cost to the consumer
Speaker 2: to operate at a healthy margin. If the prices continue
Speaker 2: to increase. There's only so much that could consumer is
Speaker 2: going to be willing to pay. And as you and
Speaker 2: I were talking, it seems to me it wasn't all
Speaker 2: that long ago you could go out and get a
Speaker 2: really good meal for one hundred bucks. Now going out
Speaker 2: and getting a decent meal is going to be one
Speaker 2: hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: Yea easy, that's where we're at. Yeah, and a just
Speaker 1: kind of an average meal. Hey, we just want to
Speaker 1: get some of our bellies and get on with it
Speaker 1: is becoming expensive.
Speaker 2: Well, let's talk to our expert in these matters.
Speaker 4: He is.
Speaker 2: He heads up the franchise consulting company, the Great American
Speaker 2: Franchise Expo. He's author of the franchise NBA. He's been
Speaker 2: with us many times. I always love talking to our
Speaker 2: good friend Nick. NEI and acas Nick, welcome.
Speaker 9: Back, Hey Eddie, Hey Rochie. Great to be back.
Speaker 2: So Nick, how long Rock and I are? We just
Speaker 2: talking about how how is this sustainable for these guys.
Speaker 22: It's a tough, tough corner of the economy right now,
Speaker 22: and it really has been since the pandemic. No, you
Speaker 22: have all these massive shocks that got crammed in just
Speaker 22: a couple of months. I mean from labor to you know, food, transportation, energy,
Speaker 22: I mean, everything really hit and you know fully but
Speaker 22: surely we start climbing out of it, and then it's
Speaker 22: like whack a mole.
Speaker 9: Right, So now food costs continue to go up and
Speaker 9: you nailed it.
Speaker 22: I mean, at some point, how can you afford to
Speaker 22: take a family of four or you know, five or
Speaker 22: six out to eat if it's gonna be you know,
Speaker 22: thirty bucks ahead, forty bucks ahead.
Speaker 1: And Nick, let me ask you this, is there like
Speaker 1: a magic number in terms of a profit margin that
Speaker 1: most restaurants are trying to hit. You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: if if to buy the ingredients for that cheeseburger cost x,
Speaker 1: we're trying to we need to mark it up to
Speaker 1: be able to make this to just kind of keep
Speaker 1: the lights on and turn some kind of profit.
Speaker 22: Yeah, you know traditional margins and restaurant world, we're about
Speaker 22: twenty five to thirty three percent should be your food costs. Right,
Speaker 22: So if you buy something for a buck, triple it,
Speaker 22: then you're going to have labor overhead and you should
Speaker 22: get a profit, a net profit in your pocket that's going.
Speaker 9: To be in the low teens to mid teens.
Speaker 22: Right, This is never a technology we're going to make
Speaker 22: eighty six percent on our margin, you know, or medical
Speaker 22: you know, or sometimes it could be crazy.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 22: This is honest business where people are saying for every
Speaker 22: one hundred dollars that I sell, I'm going to get
Speaker 22: ten or twelve dollars for me.
Speaker 1: That sounds very much, Mark, I would say that's tos's tight.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of work. These folks are going through
Speaker 1: and busting their butts, uh in having high prices just
Speaker 1: to get a ten percent. That's that's rough, right, Well, that's.
Speaker 9: Why you're seeing a lot of restaurants close up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it seems more and more, Nick And what
Speaker 2: can you say about that as far as the business goes,
Speaker 2: because I've seen a lot of businesses or a lot
Speaker 2: of restaurants around here that are closing. Now, we just
Speaker 2: found out that the big chain here that came into well,
Speaker 2: they're supposed to supplant fishes here, the Big Boy chain
Speaker 2: with the Dolly's chain. I'm sure you're familiar with them
Speaker 2: out of Michigan.
Speaker 5: I believe they are.
Speaker 2: And now that we just found out that they're all
Speaker 2: closing down here in the area.
Speaker 22: Yeah, you know, it's it's really going to bring out
Speaker 22: the best in American entrepreneurs, which is we always shine
Speaker 22: when times are tough. Not easy for the guys that
Speaker 22: are going out, but the reality is you've got three
Speaker 22: hundred and thirty million people. Every one of them is
Speaker 22: going to eat at least a couple times a day,
Speaker 22: and people are going to want to go out to eat,
Speaker 22: whether they're busy, they're on the road, they don't have
Speaker 22: the time to cook.
Speaker 9: So there's always going to be a market.
Speaker 22: So the challenge is how do you take this scenario
Speaker 22: where on one side, if you're clever, you've got a
Speaker 22: really good opportunity because people who are less clever are
Speaker 22: going to go out of business. Right, just because everything
Speaker 22: is more expensive, it doesn't mean people are going to
Speaker 22: figure things out.
Speaker 9: What does that look like.
Speaker 22: It looks like lower cost food products that are used
Speaker 22: to offset higher cost food products.
Speaker 9: Think about French fries and a burger.
Speaker 22: Right, potatoes are going to be cheaper, the meat's gonna
Speaker 22: be more expensive, so you're probably gonna see bigger portions
Speaker 22: of fries, smaller beef patties.
Speaker 9: But people are going to eat it.
Speaker 22: And if we are unfortunately giving too much, then the
Speaker 22: market isn't going to reward us.
Speaker 9: So that's the landscape that I think that we're in.
Speaker 22: And there is opportunity out there because the demand is there,
Speaker 22: but it's a real tight rope.
Speaker 9: But that's where big money is.
Speaker 1: Is there a certain kind of food that or the
Speaker 1: margins are better. I mean traditionally breakfast food was always
Speaker 1: kind of had pretty good margins and there you know,
Speaker 1: eggs went high. I think they're kind of back down now.
Speaker 1: But is there anything else that's you know, profit margins
Speaker 1: are usual, or at least have been in the past
Speaker 1: pretty good.
Speaker 22: You know, anything that has a long shelf life is
Speaker 22: going to be a good margin, right, think of rice,
Speaker 22: of pasta, think of pizza.
Speaker 9: Right, it's flour and water.
Speaker 22: These are things that you can stack up and store
Speaker 22: and keep, which isn't great for the health of our
Speaker 22: country because fresh vegetables, right, fresh meat, fish, things like
Speaker 22: this that are healthy for you have a very high
Speaker 22: cost of storage and of spoilage. And that is it's
Speaker 22: a really unfortunate observation when you think about it, because
Speaker 22: what it does is it makes us all less healthy
Speaker 22: if we can't afford to eat well. It actually hurts
Speaker 22: us as a nation because we're eating garbage.
Speaker 1: Right well, and I think that's probably again add this
Speaker 1: to the list of a hun hundred things that are
Speaker 1: hurting restaurants. Now to your point about shelf life, I
Speaker 1: don't know about you, but I feel like I've seen
Speaker 1: a big push within the last year about people pointing
Speaker 1: out the additives that are in the foods and the
Speaker 1: dyes and all the emulcifying agents and all this sort
Speaker 1: of things. So I feel like that's turning people away
Speaker 1: from restaurants that to some degree. Do you see that.
Speaker 9: One?
Speaker 22: I mean, everything is going to have elasticity of price, right,
Speaker 22: price goes up higher, fewer people can afford it.
Speaker 9: They're fewer people that can buy it.
Speaker 22: So if we're taking those things out of the food chain,
Speaker 22: which you know, we really probably shouldn't be eating all
Speaker 22: this garbage, then it's going to make food costs go
Speaker 22: up even more. That's just going to make it less
Speaker 22: affordable to people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Nick Neanoccus is our guest, And Nick, is there
Speaker 2: a category of restaurant by that, I mean Chinese, Mexican
Speaker 2: blah blah blah that would that would tend to be
Speaker 2: able to kind of skirt around these issues or is
Speaker 2: it just kind of all over the board.
Speaker 9: Well, it's a little all over the board.
Speaker 22: But you know, if you take a look historically, take
Speaker 22: a look at Domino's pizza. Okay, you get a war,
Speaker 22: you get a recession, domino stock goes up, and I'm
Speaker 22: not giving financial advice, but you know, because it's inexpensive food, right,
Speaker 22: it's it's flour So businesses, restaurants, categories that have an
Speaker 22: over reliance on things like pasta and flower based product
Speaker 22: like pizza, those tend to do well. You start getting
Speaker 22: into the you know, all organic, fancy fresh vegetables, and
Speaker 22: you know, unless you've got a whole line of people
Speaker 22: that can pay forty five bucks, forty bucks, thirty five
Speaker 22: bucks for a meal with a drink and a salad,
Speaker 22: you're not going to be a business very lock. Those
Speaker 22: are the categories.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry because they're like a technology that restaurant folks
Speaker 1: are hoping develops that will help ease some costs. Whether
Speaker 1: that's I don't know, and I don't I'm not rooting
Speaker 1: for this, but you know, driverless trucks is it? I
Speaker 1: don't know what it is. Is there something that that's
Speaker 1: around the corner there. If it's AI that that's going
Speaker 1: to help drive things down or no, Yes, you know, I.
Speaker 22: Think if you take a look at technology and the
Speaker 22: labor component, right, so we've got food, we've got labor,
Speaker 22: we've got overhead, so we need to address each of those.
Speaker 22: On the labor side, you can use technology. This is
Speaker 22: where you're seeing robots, better cooking systems and processes where
Speaker 22: you need fewer people to make the food. And that's
Speaker 22: happening on the farm too, right, So if you go
Speaker 22: all the way back into the food chain, you know,
Speaker 22: this is something where we've been brilliant as Americans over
Speaker 22: decades is fewer people generally more being more productive. So AI,
Speaker 22: I think you're gonna see it working into the food
Speaker 22: category by identifying peak hours, how many people do you
Speaker 22: need to have?
Speaker 9: What are you ordering to have on hand? So it's
Speaker 9: gonna make the supply chain.
Speaker 22: Tighter, you see what I mean, So you don't have
Speaker 22: to have as much food that's gonna go bad because
Speaker 22: you know every second Wednesday you get a huge bump
Speaker 22: of traffic between four and eight pm. That's the kind
Speaker 22: of insights that I think data and technology are bringing
Speaker 22: and have brought and during the pandemic, that was the massive,
Speaker 22: major breakdown because even though we had all these supply
Speaker 22: chain systems in place, people weren't on the road. Nobody
Speaker 22: was driving trucks, people weren't picking in the fields. Right,
Speaker 22: So it's like, great, you have all these tools, but
Speaker 22: the inputs started getting all jacked up, and that was
Speaker 22: the big challenge that we had during the pandemic.
Speaker 1: And general, I mean, you make that point, I'm almost
Speaker 1: scared to ask, but how much food do restaurants throw out?
Speaker 1: I would just I mean, it's it's gonna be awful
Speaker 1: to see if you're a rushing you cook all this
Speaker 1: food and it's the end of the night. And I mean,
Speaker 1: is there any sort of grasp you have on that.
Speaker 22: You know, it depends on the category, but in general,
Speaker 22: you your eyes would pop out of your head, you know.
Speaker 22: And it's from what people don't eat. I mean the
Speaker 22: amount of waste that we have, food spoilage. You know,
Speaker 22: if you go into a supermarket and go go behind
Speaker 22: a supermarket just for fun and take a look at
Speaker 22: how much produce gets thrown out, you know, you could
Speaker 22: feed the homeless with that. And then there's you know
Speaker 22: the second harvest. You've probably seen some of these they
Speaker 22: have in Cincinnati. It's a great it's a great philanthropy
Speaker 22: and charity where you know, you're using some of this
Speaker 22: food to feed people that don't have the ability to eat,
Speaker 22: don't the only buy food.
Speaker 9: So yeah, we waste a lot in this country.
Speaker 2: Nick Neanakis our guests and Nick before we let you
Speaker 2: go one and also touch on you and I have
Speaker 2: talked about this, but we're not. I think you actually
Speaker 2: talked about it on the show. This new new business
Speaker 2: you're involved with too. These in ground dumpsters rock this
Speaker 2: is this is cool.
Speaker 22: Yeah, you know we were talking about technology, how do
Speaker 22: you save money? This is definitely part of that chain.
Speaker 22: So this was This came in from Europe. It's a
Speaker 22: vertical in ground dumpster. The companies called sub Contain Subcontained
Speaker 22: dot com. You may have seen these dumpsters. They're all
Speaker 22: over the world other than the United States. And you
Speaker 22: can put more garbage into a smaller footprint. It's a
Speaker 22: it's a tube that goes into the ground instead of
Speaker 22: a metal box. So restaurants save because they don't have
Speaker 22: to have the garbage picked up as often self compacts.
Speaker 9: So there are a lot of things like this that
Speaker 9: are that are happening.
Speaker 22: This is maybe one of the fastest grow franchises I've
Speaker 22: ever seen, because whether AI takes over the world or
Speaker 22: robots take over the world, we as human beings will
Speaker 22: create garbage and it needs to get dealt with. Hopefully
Speaker 22: the you know, the trash mob doesn't coming off. All
Speaker 22: these people that are involved in.
Speaker 2: It's going to be involved.
Speaker 1: It's funny, Yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 19: You say that.
Speaker 1: I got a friend that I that I know he is.
Speaker 1: He's he's a millionaire and and he always said when
Speaker 1: he was looking to go into business, he said, I
Speaker 1: sat down when I was young, and I said, what
Speaker 1: does something that everybody everybody does, everybody uses? He said,
Speaker 1: everybody needs medical care, everybody dies, everybody has medical waste,
Speaker 1: and everybody needs to dispose of medical waste. And that's
Speaker 1: kind of where he went into his business. And boom,
Speaker 1: here you go, and uh, yeah, those trash impactor things
Speaker 1: are are pretty incredible. And what an aha idea just
Speaker 1: let self kind of pact itself. It seems very simple,
Speaker 1: but a brilliant ideal with those things, all right, it
Speaker 1: is and.
Speaker 9: You know, Maslow's hierarchy of needs.
Speaker 22: Right, So if you've got listeners thinking about what kind
Speaker 22: of business should I be looking for? Think of the
Speaker 22: basic human necessities. These are the things that there's always
Speaker 22: going to be a need for. And you know, if
Speaker 22: I could, if you'd like some more information on this
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Speaker 2: All right, well, good stuff Nick. With the that we
Speaker 2: will let you go, Buddy, always a pleasure, Thanks so much,
Speaker 2: Thanks fellas, Thanks buddy, our good friend Nick Neanacus. And
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Speaker 1: I remember, I remember that SoundBite. We're listening to its
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Speaker 2: Well, and it just it kills me too, just to
Speaker 2: you remind me that was the last game of the
Speaker 2: World Series, that the World Cherries has even started yet, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I granted that was thirty some years ago, but still, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think we should be playing baseball
Speaker 2: in November, dude, I don't care if it is in LA.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it done before beforehand. But no, that
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Speaker 1: But yeah, it was a big moment.
Speaker 11: Well.
Speaker 2: Speaking of baseball though, how about a Tawny over the weekend?
Speaker 1: Man, we have ten strikeouts and three home runs? Was
Speaker 1: that the official stats in six innings? I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: and you can understand, you know, when you hear people
Speaker 1: say he's maybe the greatest baseball player of all time,
Speaker 1: you go, come on, but he does stuff like that.
Speaker 1: I think there is only one way to really overcome
Speaker 1: some of the big names like Ruth and all that.
Speaker 1: It's it's to be dominant in two things, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, the most dominant hitter and a dominant pitcher,
Speaker 1: which is unheard of. And he's doing it.
Speaker 2: See that that was back in the day. Ruth started
Speaker 2: as a pitcher right because he was so good and
Speaker 2: put him in the outfield.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, incredible. Another news that Jack Cromley just passed
Speaker 1: us across my desk here and I haven't had a
Speaker 1: chance to digest all of it, but it's I think
Speaker 1: it's a sign of things to come. Ohs AA athletes
Speaker 1: will be able to make NIL deals after a ruling
Speaker 1: in the Ohio States, if they're ruling that just came down. So, uh,
Speaker 1: Franklin County judge ruled in favor of one of the
Speaker 1: top high school football players in the country. And if
Speaker 1: you haven't heard this kid, his name is Jamiir Brown.
Speaker 1: I paid place for Wayne High School and Huber Heights.
Speaker 1: Is that where you went? Okay, that's what I thought.
Speaker 1: And granting an order that temporarily halts a state prohibition
Speaker 1: on high school athletes from entering into an ILE deal,
Speaker 1: so for the foreseeable future, and I imagine this will
Speaker 1: be blocked by some second court of whatever. Right now,
Speaker 1: this will allow high school athletes to receive an IL deals,
Speaker 1: and right now, I believe is one of six states
Speaker 1: that don't allow an IL so most of the other
Speaker 1: ones this is happening only matter of time. And it
Speaker 1: happens because you know, again, the course a funny thing,
Speaker 1: and they make the case just like they did with
Speaker 1: the college athletes. Well, you're denying a young man in
Speaker 1: this case a right to be able to work to
Speaker 1: make money for his family. That's the case that's made.
Speaker 1: And you know, it's it can be you can it
Speaker 1: can be a decent case to be made. And it's
Speaker 1: kind of where we're at. I think it's I think
Speaker 1: it'd be a disaster. That's why I was going, I
Speaker 1: was going to ask you your thoughts on it. I
Speaker 1: I and it's hard to say that. It's because for
Speaker 1: some people like it would be, it would be something
Speaker 1: that would be life changing for their family if if
Speaker 1: you're like a very very But outside of that, I
Speaker 1: just feel like it creates a lot of just again,
Speaker 1: as everybody would say, a lot of problems, and especially
Speaker 1: with younger I mean you're talking about it. It's hard
Speaker 1: for college kids to deal with all this money and
Speaker 1: what to do with it and where to put it
Speaker 1: and how to protect it and all that. Now you're
Speaker 1: talking about young sixteen seven year old kids. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you know, kids choosing high schools over over money instead
Speaker 1: of you know, maybe where their parents went or the
Speaker 1: place they want to go.
Speaker 2: And where does the money come. It's just from donors.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's it's company. I think again, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of how it started on college. It
Speaker 1: was like the big push was, you know, if a business,
Speaker 1: if a car dealer wants to pay the Ohio State
Speaker 1: quarterback money to sign autographs at his dealership on a Sunday,
Speaker 1: he should be able to do that, Okay, And people
Speaker 1: fought for that. But then that's not what it turned into.
Speaker 1: It turned into donors and businesses buying buying players. That's
Speaker 1: what it turned into. And I think again, Chris Henry Jr.
Speaker 1: By everything I've heard, that's why he went out to
Speaker 1: Modern Day and played because he's like, well, I could
Speaker 1: stick around here in Ohio he was at Withrow and
Speaker 1: go out there and make money and play and still
Speaker 1: go to Ohio State.
Speaker 2: So but it is it is crazy, man, that that
Speaker 2: that is creeping. How low does it go?
Speaker 1: What was even crazier is I've talked to high school
Speaker 1: coaches and they are starting to see and this is
Speaker 1: a part of it, but high school players like opting
Speaker 1: out of their senior year kind of thing because you know,
Speaker 1: or whether maybe they get a little bit of money,
Speaker 1: or maybe they they commit to Michigan or Ohio State
Speaker 1: or something like, I don't know if I really want
Speaker 1: to risk getting hurt and getting out the area. I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's really the best thing I want
Speaker 1: to do. And it's crazy, but.
Speaker 2: In and only a matter of time rock before it
Speaker 2: trickles down to like junior high next. I mean, you
Speaker 2: hear about people all the time going in and starting
Speaker 2: to stealthy's the twelve, thirteen, fourteen year old kids to
Speaker 2: that point.
Speaker 1: I saw a video online and I can't confirm, you
Speaker 1: know how, the accuracy of it, but it was this guy.
Speaker 1: He was a youth football coach talking. He's like, folks,
Speaker 1: it's here. It finally happens. You know, some player like
Speaker 1: the mom approached this guy and said, hey, we're from Florida,
Speaker 1: and you know AJ here is the top receivers. And
Speaker 1: again we're talking like ten years old, eleven years old,
Speaker 1: the top players in Florida. Lots of teams that won him.
Speaker 1: The price is one thousand bucks a month. He's like, well,
Speaker 1: huh what yeah, but I mean you could see you
Speaker 1: can certainly certainly see it trickling down to that, and
Speaker 1: maybe there's places or coaches or teams that pay that.
Speaker 1: That's a bridge too far. That a bridge too far.
Speaker 1: High school paying of athletes is a bridge too far
Speaker 1: from me. But that is insane being a youth parent
Speaker 1: saying you want, if you want, want my guy to
Speaker 1: play for you, and the case toy making is well,
Speaker 1: you're a some other team is gonna pay him if
Speaker 1: you don't. That's what happens. It's like people don't want
Speaker 1: to do it, but then they wind up playing against
Speaker 1: that player. He winds up kicking their ass because some
Speaker 1: other opponent is paying them, and then they go, well,
Speaker 1: can't beat them, join them?
Speaker 2: Oh, I would assume so that when the parents are
Speaker 2: going to gang up and you're like, what do you
Speaker 2: let that kid go for?
Speaker 1: Yeah, our team and we are kicking our butts r
Speaker 1: either kicking our butts for a couple hundred bucks. That's
Speaker 1: there's gotta be a line on this, and I think
Speaker 1: that's for me. That's it.
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Speaker 1: Own money in high school, Yes, and we talked before
Speaker 1: the break there. SAA will now allow athletes to be
Speaker 1: able to make an IL after and also a lawsuit
Speaker 1: was brought forth by a kid by the name of
Speaker 1: Jamir Brown. He's in Ohio state wide receiver commit by
Speaker 1: most services out there. He's the number one wide receivercruit
Speaker 1: in the country. He goes to Wayne High School and
Speaker 1: Huber Heights and his attorney made the case that he's
Speaker 1: already missed out and over one hundred thousand dollars of
Speaker 1: potential deals. And what he has said is he makes
Speaker 1: the case. Look, if you were a generational talent at
Speaker 1: playing trumpet, okay, then some place, some orchestra would would
Speaker 1: love your services and they would be able to pay
Speaker 1: you as a high school kid, Hey, ed, come to
Speaker 1: the New York Symphony and play trumpet for us. We don't,
Speaker 1: you know, boom, let's go. That would be allowed. But
Speaker 1: a football player, a top football player, can't do the sense.
Speaker 1: So that's the case that's made. And I guess my
Speaker 1: counter that would be I understand that. As I laid
Speaker 1: out earlier in the last segment, the nil for college
Speaker 1: players was supposed to be if a player gets his
Speaker 1: name up to a certain degree of recognition where it
Speaker 1: has some value. Where another example, a car dealer wants
Speaker 1: to or no, a local Arby's wants to have you know,
Speaker 1: young that that great quarterback Ed Fingers wants to have
Speaker 1: him in on Sunday from noon to three, and he's
Speaker 1: gonna be there and sign autographs and pay you five
Speaker 1: thousand bucks to do that. That's what it was supposed
Speaker 1: to be, but it turned into buying players, which is
Speaker 1: what you could see happening with high school kids.
Speaker 2: Oh totally. Let's take a couple of calls on it.
Speaker 2: It's let's get first to Brian and Indiana. Hey, Brian,
Speaker 2: what's up?
Speaker 3: Hey?
Speaker 20: Yeah, Okay, if a child is not legally considered of
Speaker 20: age till eighteen, then how can they really the inner
Speaker 20: n I L contract without some type of parent involvement
Speaker 20: and being in the middle of that and possibly selling
Speaker 20: the kids off to the highest bid.
Speaker 11: That's not right.
Speaker 1: No, that's exactly what happens. Exactly what it is, exactly right,
Speaker 1: that's what happens. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the kid can't do anything on his own, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: let's uh, let's talk to Gary. Hey, Gary, what's going
Speaker 2: on in Walnut Hills, buddy? Or Western Hills after and.
Speaker 11: Gentlemen, So isn't this a form of exactly what Mohler
Speaker 11: was doing years ago when we know a faust Yeah,
Speaker 11: sat there and moved families into the into the district
Speaker 11: so that the kids could.
Speaker 9: Go to Molar.
Speaker 11: It's just a form of the exact same thing. Mike.
Speaker 11: My biggest thing is this, especially for high school.
Speaker 9: If if you're getting any.
Speaker 11: Type of scholarship at all to go to a high school,
Speaker 11: to play a sport. Aren't you getting paid anyway? Isn't
Speaker 11: the scholarship in itself form of payment?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 4: It is.
Speaker 1: And here's the other loophole. If you want to look
Speaker 1: into the inner workings of this. High schools are allowed
Speaker 1: to give some scholarships for anything, and you can call
Speaker 1: it anything. You can call it a leadership scholarship. Well,
Speaker 1: what's the criter here, I don't know, be a leader,
Speaker 1: whatever the hell that means. And they can give it
Speaker 1: to They just happen to give it to that football
Speaker 1: player right there. You get the you know, you know,
Speaker 1: Rocky em boyman leadership scholarship, right boom and that guy
Speaker 1: comes in, So, yeah, it is. It's it is kind
Speaker 1: of the same thing. It's just I guess a little
Speaker 1: more forthright that it's actual cash.
Speaker 12: Right.
Speaker 11: And I'll tell you write this down a piece of
Speaker 11: paper mail through yourself. Ten years from now. This is
Speaker 11: going to be the ruin of high school sports and
Speaker 11: college sports. This nil thing. This will be the ruin
Speaker 11: of that because there is no commitment. And it's started
Speaker 11: years ago with coaches being able to sign a five year,
Speaker 11: three year contract and then another school comes calling after
Speaker 11: four years and that coach leaves. There's no commitment on
Speaker 11: the coaches level. There's not gonna be any commitment on
Speaker 11: the player's level. What are we teaching these people about commitment?
Speaker 11: When are we teaching our young adults about commitment? I
Speaker 11: can go someplace until I find something better. Oh, I
Speaker 11: can go someplace there until I find something better. And
Speaker 11: kids are entering the porthole every year to go and
Speaker 11: up the up the anti.
Speaker 1: I guess the case commitment. I guess the case we
Speaker 1: made is. And let me ask you that, like, what
Speaker 1: do you do for a living or did you do
Speaker 1: for a living?
Speaker 19: I used to own my own business.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you owned your own business. So what would
Speaker 1: stop you from going from another business down the street
Speaker 1: wants to pay one hundred thousand dollars more a year.
Speaker 1: You're able to freely go and take that and join
Speaker 1: that business because they're paying you more. Right, why shouldn't
Speaker 1: I coach or a player. I'm just saying that's the
Speaker 1: case that can be.
Speaker 4: Made well, and I'm fine with that.
Speaker 11: My point is, honor the commitment. If you sign a
Speaker 11: five year deal to go and I don't know all
Speaker 11: the ins and outs of scholarships for kids you know, scholarships,
Speaker 11: from my understanding is it's like a one year thing
Speaker 11: at a time. I mean, you may say you're going
Speaker 11: to go to Ohio State University for five years to
Speaker 11: play football, but it's one year to the next year
Speaker 11: to the next year. There are criteria that have to
Speaker 11: be met in order for you to continue to get
Speaker 11: that scholarship. But in a coach's situation, he sits and says,
Speaker 11: I'm going to go coach for Ohio State and I'm
Speaker 11: going to stay there for five years. And three years
Speaker 11: or four years later, UCLA or Wisconsin or whoever comes
Speaker 11: along and says, we'd like to have come to play here,
Speaker 11: we'll buy your contract out. Well, you've got players that
Speaker 11: have committed to coming and playing for coach Johnson or
Speaker 11: coach Smith or whoever it may be, and suddenly they're going, well,
Speaker 11: wait to say, he's not even gonna be here. I
Speaker 11: want to leave it too. That's the reason why the
Speaker 11: whole thing started rambling downhill. It's like a little snowball
Speaker 11: that you push down a hill and eventually it turns
Speaker 11: into a great, big boulder. It's just all going to
Speaker 11: get out of control, and and you can see it
Speaker 11: happening already.
Speaker 19: That's just my opinion.
Speaker 11: I mean, I might be totally but.
Speaker 9: I'm with you.
Speaker 1: Uh, I guess, but I guess the Devil's advocate again,
Speaker 1: I am. I'm firmly with it there needs. I'm okay
Speaker 1: with the players being paid to some degree, but how
Speaker 1: it's being done I think is crazy. Like I mean,
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow can't in the middle of the year say,
Speaker 1: you know what, I decided that I want more money
Speaker 1: from uh, you know, the New York Giants, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have a better chance. No, there's a contract. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you have a five year contract, you got to commit.
Speaker 1: And in college it's it's crazy you can leave a
Speaker 1: place and go to a place for the spring portal
Speaker 1: and and be there in the spring that another place
Speaker 1: can Again, the other side of the argument would be
Speaker 1: just a point on both sides, and people say, oh,
Speaker 1: this is ruining college football. College football has never been
Speaker 1: more popular. I mean, look at the TV ratings, Look
Speaker 1: at the fact that I and also and look at
Speaker 1: the fact that like Indiana, Indiana is like maybe the
Speaker 1: best football team in the nation right now and could
Speaker 1: be sustainable for years to come. Well because they have
Speaker 1: a good nil right, right, buddy, John Cougar Mellen Camp.
Speaker 1: I think is he's not. I'm just kidding. But nevertheless,
Speaker 1: you know, so that's the other side of it is
Speaker 1: some other places that were never ever going to be
Speaker 1: powers now can be. So it's it's certainly interesting and
Speaker 1: that's why it's such a great talking point.
Speaker 2: Coming up, we're gonna be talking to our good friend Deanrigez.
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Speaker 5: I think he.
Speaker 2: I think I saw that he's at the bottom of
Speaker 2: the Greg Canyon the other day. He was, he was
Speaker 2: he hiked down there.
Speaker 19: Yeah.
Speaker 2: See, he's living a life. Come on, he's an astronomer
Speaker 2: to the man. He's a chopper down there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got one of those luxury donkeys that breake
Speaker 1: him down there, with like the extra long fur and
Speaker 1: the padded the saddle.
Speaker 16: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he ain't hooking down there, my friend.
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Speaker 2: This next our next guest leads, we of course are
Speaker 2: talking about our good friend, astronomer to the stars, our
Speaker 2: good friend Dean Reekus. I'm just thinking about you helicoptering
Speaker 2: down there or writing or having the best donkey of
Speaker 2: the herd is taking you down there. How does it work, Deane?
Speaker 4: That's pretty much got I just you know, anytime, I
Speaker 4: just make a few calls. Helicopter down, helicopter back up. No,
Speaker 4: it's a little less glamorous than that. But I am
Speaker 4: having a great time here at the Grand Canyon doing
Speaker 4: astronomy programs and doing a lot of hiking too.
Speaker 1: All right, and Dean, what in particular are you are
Speaker 1: you doing at the moment.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm getting ready for a program doing something tonight,
Speaker 4: doing a what's called star and constellation talk. We're going
Speaker 4: to go out kind of by the rim of the
Speaker 4: Grand Canyon. I'll point out some stars and constellations and
Speaker 4: spend some mythology and just answer a lot of astronomy questions.
Speaker 4: So I was the astronomer and residence here for a while,
Speaker 4: and they keep letting me come back. So it's been
Speaker 4: a great I've been out here for about ten days
Speaker 4: and it's a little interesting with the shutdown going on.
Speaker 4: Rangers are kind of not around, but the public is
Speaker 4: still here and everything's open and it's everybody's everybody's doing
Speaker 4: really well, everybody's behaving themselves. I have to stay here
Speaker 4: at the canyon.
Speaker 2: So where where are you based at the at the
Speaker 2: at this time? Are you down in the base of
Speaker 2: the canyon, down on the floor of the canyon, or
Speaker 2: are you where you usually are? I believe it's that
Speaker 2: there's some kind of lot or something at on the rim.
Speaker 4: I'm at the South Rim. That's the most popular section
Speaker 4: of the Grand Canyon, so that's the one's closest to
Speaker 4: like Phoenix and Las Vegas and that kind of thing,
Speaker 4: and so that's where the place for the classic views.
Speaker 4: And I get they give me a house to live in,
Speaker 4: so it's a pretty sweet digs here, and I can
Speaker 4: just walk over to the canyon and see it and
Speaker 4: it's a pretty nice setup. So earlier in the week
Speaker 4: I did go down into the canyon and walked all
Speaker 4: the way down the river. A lot of the trails
Speaker 4: are closed down there, and Phantom Branch, the community down there,
Speaker 4: is closed mostly because of the fire they had earlier
Speaker 4: in the year, so there's a lot of recovery going
Speaker 4: on here. But it was still just gorgeous to walk
Speaker 4: down all the way to the river, and and I
Speaker 4: pretty much had had it to myself since there are
Speaker 4: a lot fewer people down there now.
Speaker 20: Dean.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not into conspiracy theories, but I have
Speaker 1: heard there are certain sections of the Grand Canyon that's
Speaker 1: blocked off, and you know the reasons why. Of course
Speaker 1: maybe you've heard, but again I don't want to get
Speaker 1: into that. But but nonetheless, or I mean, what is
Speaker 1: I mean, are there giant telescopes down there you can
Speaker 1: look at stuff at or.
Speaker 4: What That's one of the coolest things is that whenever
Speaker 4: I've done programs down you know, in the inner Canyon,
Speaker 4: so they call that, the access to that is basically
Speaker 4: by a foot, by mule, or by helicopter. If you're
Speaker 4: like in deep trouble, that's the only way you can
Speaker 4: actually use helicopters if they have to rescue you. And
Speaker 4: luckily they haven't had to do that to me, So
Speaker 4: that's good. But yeah, they have telescopes down at these stations,
Speaker 4: so I just hike down and I can use the
Speaker 4: telescopes there. As far as like out of bounds off
Speaker 4: limits areas, the only ones that I know of are
Speaker 4: because of like dangerous cliff situations where people fall to
Speaker 4: their deaths very easily. I think there's some uranium around
Speaker 4: there also, and mostly just they close off places because
Speaker 4: if you hike there, you're not going to come out
Speaker 4: the other side. That's pretty much what it is.
Speaker 1: Well, the conspiracy theory is there's like pyramids, like Egyptian
Speaker 1: pyramid type structures that are down in some of these cannes.
Speaker 1: But again, I'm not that one of those guys.
Speaker 4: I quite a bit of the canyon. I haven't seen
Speaker 4: it myself, and you know, I'm not on a government employee.
Speaker 4: I'm not shut down, so I can I give you
Speaker 4: the real Scooper.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, well, you know what, one day, you
Speaker 1: should just take off and just run right through the
Speaker 1: park that you're not allowed to go and dean and
Speaker 1: uncover these things. See if there are in fact pyramids
Speaker 1: and Egyptian like structures down in the Grand Canyon that
Speaker 1: the government is hiding from us because they don't want
Speaker 1: us to know, Dean, but you can tell us they don't.
Speaker 4: They don't want us know. That's true. So I will
Speaker 4: find out my next trip next time. I next time
Speaker 4: I come, I make sure to set that up.
Speaker 2: So Dean Reguez is our guest. And Dean, let me
Speaker 2: ask you, as far as hiking down there goes, how
Speaker 2: long does that take? Because I went to the Grand
Speaker 2: Canyon probably it was the early nineties, and I started
Speaker 2: to hike down there, and I got about halfway down
Speaker 2: and then I figured.
Speaker 1: I was like, this sucks a minute.
Speaker 2: I haven't walked back up.
Speaker 4: Well, well, if you made it halfway down, you might
Speaker 4: as well just kept on. But yeah, it is very difficult,
Speaker 4: that's the thing. And it's you know, to get to
Speaker 4: the river. Probably the quickest would be you know, it'd
Speaker 4: take you all day basically just to get down there
Speaker 4: and then to get back up. That's the real tough part.
Speaker 4: So for me when I go, I usually takes me
Speaker 4: about five hours to go down, and then I stay
Speaker 4: down there a few nights to recover, and then about
Speaker 4: six to seven hours to hike back all the way
Speaker 4: to the top. So this trip. I broke it up
Speaker 4: into two sections. I hiked halfway down to a place
Speaker 4: called have a Suphi Gardens and stayed there a couple
Speaker 4: of nights, and then hike down to the river and
Speaker 4: back up to that spot. So none of my hikes
Speaker 4: were crazy long, but they were still pretty tough. And
Speaker 4: you know, with all the rangers kind of on furlough
Speaker 4: right now, it's you know, I'm kind of some of
Speaker 4: the unofficial eyes and ears on the trail, and I
Speaker 4: have to say, my greatest asset is convincing people not
Speaker 4: to go down. That's my greatest have to say, so
Speaker 4: many lives as I say, don't do it, are you crazy?
Speaker 4: You'll never make it, And so I've stayed countless lives.
Speaker 1: That's right. I wonder how many times a year that
Speaker 1: you know, EMS crew's got to like helicopter's somebody out
Speaker 1: of there because they just can't walk up anymore, or
Speaker 1: somebody got hurt or broken ankle. You know, I bet
Speaker 1: it's a mess.
Speaker 4: Every single time I've been down to the bottom, they've
Speaker 4: had to evacuate somebody, like literally every single time they
Speaker 4: So it happens so frequently, and it's mostly people that
Speaker 4: you know, they they see their friends doing on Facebook
Speaker 4: and they're like, oh, I.
Speaker 19: Can do that.
Speaker 4: If builded that, I can do that, and uh yeah,
Speaker 4: they get themselves in big trouble and so but it's
Speaker 4: it is very strange to see people's you know, that
Speaker 4: they walk down so far without really a plan and
Speaker 4: they yeah, they So I've seen a lot of the evacuations.
Speaker 4: I've had to help people actually when I'm down there,
Speaker 4: and then mostly convince them to to stop walking. That's
Speaker 4: mostly what I do.
Speaker 1: So, Deine, I was telling that earlier. I know this
Speaker 1: movie has been out forever, but I finally finished watching
Speaker 1: The Martian Okay with with Matt Damon in it, and
Speaker 1: you know, it took me a long time, just because
Speaker 1: I usually fall asleep watching stuff. But anyway, but I
Speaker 1: was thinking, as you know, the many times we've had
Speaker 1: you on talking about trips to Mars and how long
Speaker 1: it would take, I feel like the dates and the
Speaker 1: times they would have to do it, we're pretty accurate
Speaker 1: to what you would. You had said, how much of
Speaker 1: that movie, I don't know if you can eat. I
Speaker 1: guess it's hard to say is real or not because
Speaker 1: no one's actually formed a colony on Mars. But how
Speaker 1: much of that do you think is within the realm
Speaker 1: of possibility of what it would be like on that planet.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very accurate. The the author of the book,
Speaker 4: Andy Weir, he researched this pretty well and he he
Speaker 4: gets it pretty accurate about the difficulties of going to Mars,
Speaker 4: living on Mars, and then getting back because yeah, you
Speaker 4: can't go just every day tomorrow is you have to
Speaker 4: have all the planets lined up and everything. So that's
Speaker 4: why you had to wait on the planet for so
Speaker 4: long and eat all his potatoes and everything, and so
Speaker 4: it's uh, that part was really accurate.
Speaker 25: Uh.
Speaker 4: You know, there's some nitpicky stuff that I could get into,
Speaker 4: but I'd say overall, that's one of the more accurate
Speaker 4: of the books and movies I've seen when it comes
Speaker 4: to astronomy.
Speaker 2: So but the uh, but that's what I was wondering.
Speaker 2: As far as the storms and wars and stuff, they
Speaker 2: are really that brutal up there.
Speaker 4: Oh well, now you get to that part. That was
Speaker 4: the part I was going to say, it's not accurate.
Speaker 4: You know, there's a windstorm, the whole thing. I don't
Speaker 4: want to spoil it for anybody. But the whole wind
Speaker 4: storm that that gets him stuck there wouldn't have actually happened.
Speaker 4: But you know, that's beside the point. Once he's there
Speaker 4: and he's stuck, then it all worked out, all right.
Speaker 19: Why is that?
Speaker 1: Why Why wouldn't the windstorms happen like that.
Speaker 4: Well, the windstorms kick up, that's for sure, but they
Speaker 4: wouldn't have enough force to like knock over a spacecraft.
Speaker 4: They the winds are extremely strong, but not there's not
Speaker 4: enough atmosphere to push you around. That's the thing.
Speaker 3: That was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was kind of the premise of the end
Speaker 1: of it, or without you know, spoiler alert here of
Speaker 1: why he could. They had to take all that weight
Speaker 1: off of the ship so he could get out of there.
Speaker 1: And the guy said, hey, the atmosphere isn't that thick,
Speaker 1: but we need to decrease some weight.
Speaker 4: So to your point, well, this is why you can't
Speaker 4: watch astronomy movies. Me, I'll just ruin it for everybody.
Speaker 1: You're a real drive. I'm possible.
Speaker 4: Let's go back to my first answer. I said it
Speaker 4: was pretty good.
Speaker 2: It's one of those guys where he knows what the movie,
Speaker 2: you know, he knows the topic of the movie. He's
Speaker 2: an expert in it, and you'll be sitting there and
Speaker 2: you're thinking, Wow, that's really cool, and he's going, no,
Speaker 2: that's stupid, stupid.
Speaker 1: It would be like you like watching a Beatles documentary
Speaker 1: as you right now. That didn't happen. That didn't happen either.
Speaker 4: I did.
Speaker 2: But I saw that Bob Dylan movie. I knew a
Speaker 2: little bit about Bob Dylan, and we're I'm saying there
Speaker 2: wasn't with dev and I go, well, that's stupid. That
Speaker 2: didn't happen.
Speaker 5: That's a movie.
Speaker 12: All right.
Speaker 2: Well, Dean, should we be watching for anything in the sky?
Speaker 5: What we have here, Well, we got a.
Speaker 4: Couple of things that are in the news. They've been
Speaker 4: talking about the comets that are in the sky. So
Speaker 4: we got a couple of comments that are up there.
Speaker 4: Ones in the evening, ones in the morning, right before sunrise.
Speaker 4: Both of them are not terribly bright and you know,
Speaker 4: great to look at. You need a telescope to see.
Speaker 4: I know there's been news reports and you could maybe
Speaker 4: see them naked eye. I say, no, way, that is
Speaker 4: not correct. So here I'm being the buzzkill again. So
Speaker 4: the comets that are in the news, you definitely need
Speaker 4: some telescopes to be able to see them, so I
Speaker 4: r I rate them is not super exciting. But the
Speaker 4: thing that is exciting is tonight, really late at night,
Speaker 4: you can start to see the orion Orion. It's meteor shower.
Speaker 4: This is the annual media shower happens every October, and
Speaker 4: this one should be a good one. You can see
Speaker 4: maybe a maybe two dozen shooting stars per hour if
Speaker 4: you stay up late enough. So that one. So that's
Speaker 4: the real scoop comments. I'd say, man, that's a good
Speaker 4: meteor shower. That's the highlight for tonight. I would say, all.
Speaker 2: Right with that, Dean Rigus, we will let you go.
Speaker 2: People want to find out more about you and what
Speaker 2: it is you do. Where can they go?
Speaker 4: Yep, I'm all about astronomy and the Grand Canyon right now.
Speaker 4: Astrodean dot com. That's my website. Just got Asterdean dot
Speaker 4: com follow up me and I have all my social
Speaker 4: media there too, and you can see the pictures I've
Speaker 4: taken from the Grand Canyon. It's an exciting place to
Speaker 4: be and really cool to see the night sky out here.
Speaker 4: But looking forward to being back in Cincinnati soon.
Speaker 1: So thanks guys being you're the best, buddy, Thank you
Speaker 1: so much.
Speaker 5: All right, keep looking up yep, see you buddy.
Speaker 9: What a gig?
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, kid man, I'm just sitting here thinking that's saying.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what a life.
Speaker 5: That's cool.
Speaker 1: We should have paid more attention in you know, science
Speaker 1: class and astronomy class. We'd be hanging out with starlets
Speaker 1: Harlot's at the bottom of the Grand Canyon.
Speaker 2: And I'll see, That's what I was going to say.
Speaker 2: I think that we would missed out on that work. Astronomy, astronomy,
Speaker 2: groopy chicks. I'm sure that they were the hottest girls
Speaker 2: in the in school.
Speaker 1: That's probably.
Speaker 2: But you know what, beggers can't be choosers or astronomers
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Speaker 2: talking about this big Amazon Web the cloudloutage last.
Speaker 1: Night, Yes, and we talked to Dave had her a
Speaker 1: little bit about it earlier, but here with the latest
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Speaker 1: what's the story.
Speaker 28: Yeah, so this major outage. We're still trying to wrap
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Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 28: This knocked over not just the Fortnite video game, but
Speaker 28: also Delta Airlines to a degree, and the website for
Speaker 28: the Wall Street Journal, Snapchat and others. This impacted a
Speaker 28: huge swath of the Internet and it can all be
Speaker 28: traced back to Amazon Web Services. So Amazon, we often
Speaker 28: think of them as an e commerce retailer, while they
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Speaker 28: a way for like a small business to outsource computing power.
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Speaker 28: I don't want to focus on cybersecurity updates for the
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Speaker 28: Amazon is the major player in this market. They account
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Speaker 28: accounted for by Microsoft and Google. That means that a
Speaker 28: lot of power is centralized in just three companies, and
Speaker 28: that's a big part of this story as well. When
Speaker 28: one gets knocked over, it does knock over a huge
Speaker 28: swath of the Internet, but that's basically what these services do.
Speaker 28: It appears that Amazon had an issue with what is
Speaker 28: known as their DNS or their domain name service guys.
Speaker 28: For fear of being too technical, this is a translation
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Speaker 28: Facebook dot Comabiesnews dot com and translates it into something
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Speaker 28: so that is specifically what went wrong here. They were
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Speaker 9: Hours or so.
Speaker 28: However, throughout the day we kept seeing more and more
Speaker 28: problems emerge, and that really speaks to exactly how deeply
Speaker 28: connected the modern Internet is.
Speaker 2: So Mike is obviously, when you hear something like this,
Speaker 2: your first concern is hacking, but it appears that wasn't
Speaker 2: an issue right No.
Speaker 28: Amazon says that this was not a cyber attack. There's
Speaker 28: no bad actors involved here, and that is, you know,
Speaker 28: to be expected.
Speaker 20: Right.
Speaker 28: We've seen outages like this happen before. Amazon itself experienced
Speaker 28: outages in twenty twenty three and twenty twenty one. Of course,
Speaker 28: last year, we also remember the crowd Strike outage that
Speaker 28: was a cybersecurity firm that chipped a faulty bit of
Speaker 28: code that knocks millions of computers around the world offline.
Speaker 28: So this is unfortunate, It is frustrating for many, but
Speaker 28: it is pretty normal. It's not unusual by any stretch
Speaker 28: of the imagination. Again, it goes back to that idea
Speaker 28: that we've centralized a lot of this power in the
Speaker 28: cloud computing space into just the hands of a handful
Speaker 28: of companies, right, just a few of them, and when
Speaker 28: one of them experiences problems, that's going to have major
Speaker 28: ripple effects.
Speaker 1: Now, is this like an opportunity for other companies to
Speaker 1: host servers and do all that sort of thing, So
Speaker 1: you know, kind of I guess spread out the misery
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit.
Speaker 28: Yeah, diversify I think is probably the worst yes security
Speaker 28: from cybersecurity experts over the next few days. But yeah,
Speaker 28: this idea that instead of, you know, to go back
Speaker 28: to that cafe example that we were talking about. Instead
Speaker 28: of putting all your eggs into the AWS basket, maybe
Speaker 28: now is an opportunity to think about diversifying that a
Speaker 28: little bit, putting a couple eggs into Google's basket, maybe
Speaker 28: a couple eggs into a smaller third parties basket, just
Speaker 28: to guard against this, because again, you know, we talk
Speaker 28: a lot today, or we've spoken a lot today about
Speaker 28: what the individual can do. The unfortunate answer is not
Speaker 28: a ton. Outside of that, if you are a small
Speaker 28: business owner, it's you know, maybe just spread the wealth
Speaker 28: a little bit to make sure that if one goes down,
Speaker 28: you know, your whole business doesn't collapse.
Speaker 2: All right with that, Mike, we will let you go, buddy,
Speaker 2: Thanks so much, of course, guys, take care. I am
Speaker 2: Mike Debuski from ABC Rock and other related well cyber news.
Speaker 2: This happened in Indy, Indianapolis based bankruptcy. Your attorney, Mark S.
Speaker 2: Zuckerberg is suing Meta, the company that Mark E. Zuckerberg owns,
Speaker 2: because the because his this guy's an attorney, his Facebook
Speaker 2: page keeps getting shut down.
Speaker 1: You're like, your name is Mark Zuckerberg you suck.
Speaker 2: Right, it's not funny, says the lawyer. Metta has been
Speaker 2: accused him of impersonating a celebrity and using a false name,
Speaker 2: says says mister Zuckerberg, a name that I've had way
Speaker 2: longer than Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's right, I had it first. That's hilarious. It's funny
Speaker 1: if you're not him.
Speaker 2: Correct, I'm uh. I'd rather not make a fight with him,
Speaker 2: But I don't know how to make the stop. It's
Speaker 2: not right and they need to stop it, and so
Speaker 2: they have. The meta is now confirmed after a lot
Speaker 2: of going back and forth at Zuckerberger's account is back
Speaker 2: up after being disabled in error.
Speaker 1: Because you know, I'm how many tens of thousands of
Speaker 1: employees are there right in at Facebook, And I'm sure
Speaker 1: at some point it comes up like there's this joker
Speaker 1: think he's trying to do and boom bumping him off there.
Speaker 1: And then it gets fixed and someone else sees it
Speaker 1: and he take it off.
Speaker 2: Didn't he used to be Abe Lincoln? Uh and rock
Speaker 2: and uh and again. Well, the cyber news just keeps
Speaker 2: on coming. This happened in Aurora, Colorado. This guy's a
Speaker 2: credit card or credit card fraud suspect and his name
Speaker 2: Alec Bogus. Uh So, anyways, mister Bogus was kind of
Speaker 2: he was on the lamb from law enforcement when he
Speaker 2: was approaching at the Indian Hot Springs Resort in Idaho Springs, Colorado.
Speaker 2: According to a new source, Bogus, who had announced who
Speaker 2: had the outstanding felony warrant, was just exiting the mud
Speaker 2: bat there wearing only a speedo. When the cops showed up,
Speaker 2: he ran up a wood a wooded mountain side and
Speaker 2: tried to hide in a shed, but was recovered a
Speaker 2: short time later, still covered in mud. I would just
Speaker 2: you know, you you ever take one of those mudbaso
Speaker 2: we Deb and I did.
Speaker 1: That, one of those like uh kind of natury ones. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well I was.
Speaker 2: It wasn't real, you know, not all that new agey stuff.
Speaker 2: But Deb and I did it on in California one
Speaker 2: time or out there.
Speaker 1: Did you get rub the mud?
Speaker 10: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what you get a little you're in kind of
Speaker 2: like a sarcophagus.
Speaker 5: It's weird, man.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, sign me up hot hot mud in a
Speaker 1: sarcophagus with death right. She had her own.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, we had sidewiyside graves or something.
Speaker 1: This it feels like to be buried next to each other.
Speaker 2: I would I would not like to be on the
Speaker 2: run from the law though having.
Speaker 1: Exited that, yeah, it's kind of sticky.
Speaker 2: And yeah, at least he had a speed one.
Speaker 1: I was naked. We really get the full experience. That's
Speaker 1: my man, right, That's what I mean when short.
Speaker 2: Changing this mother Nature's son.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I said I need more right here.
Speaker 2: I'll leave you with that thought in mind. Oh God,
Speaker 2: as we had the traffic and weather, what is going on?