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Speaker 2: nine News I team many times about the Dolly situation,

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Speaker 2: and Dan Monk, first off, welcome back to the program.

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Speaker 2: What do we know? Apparently they're shutting all of the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, six of them will be closed by October twenty third,

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Speaker 3: So it was a it was kind of a gamble

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Speaker 3: And now I think you can look for all of them,

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Speaker 1: And Dan, look, I'm not a restaurant tycoon here, but

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Speaker 1: very well, Dan, Cincinnati is a very kind of loyal

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean it started out that way. The reviews

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Speaker 3: they just never They never opened the restaurant. I don't

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Speaker 1: Damn Lung's our guest w c PO and Dan. So

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Speaker 1: what I know, there's still some fishes that are operating.

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Speaker 1: Their are privately owned, right, is this a window where

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Speaker 1: you know, hey, maybe these people are out there are

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Speaker 1: still craving a big boy type sandwich. Maybe some more

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: They are privately owned, but they're effectively owned by the

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Speaker 3: same company, the Atlanta based company that owned them after

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Speaker 3: they have you know, operators who are different. They don't

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Speaker 3: independently from food wholesalers, and so it's not necessarily the

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Speaker 3: same bushes as existed before. But there are still thirty

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Speaker 3: one locations open under the Fish's Big Boy name, and

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Speaker 3: ten of those locations are in Greater are in Cincinnati,

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Speaker 2: All right with that, Dan, we will let you go. Buddy,

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Speaker 2: Thanks for switching gears with us and talking about this

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Speaker 3: So much, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Thanks our good friend Dan Monk from the IT team

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Speaker 2: on Channel nine. And I still had never never eaten

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Speaker 2: But you know what, why can't fishes bring start kind

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Speaker 2: back to what we all remember. Buddy boys, big boys blah,

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Speaker 2: blah blah, fish sandwiches, fish sandwich at Boom and rings.

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Speaker 1: Kind of the the in and out burger model. They

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well we're a lot like fishes. Well we're not fishes.

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Speaker 2: Six so cold. Well, the supposed searches like fritches light right,

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Speaker 2: and that was that. I've totally forgotten what Dan was saying,

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Speaker 2: but they had their original plan was opened like fifty.

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Speaker 1: Dollars fifty yeah, And first of all, just that alone

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Speaker 2: So they no marketing, no nothing, no rollout.

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Speaker 2: So if you didn't hear it, they got to six

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Speaker 19: on and buying a server or run your ERP system,

439
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Speaker 19: Nitor or whatever you might need to do for your business,

440
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Speaker 19: just about anything you could possibly provide for yourself, either

441
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Speaker 19: by building yourself or buying software from someone like a

442
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Speaker 19: Microsoft or someone and running it on your own devices

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Speaker 19: like you would.

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Speaker 4: Have Let's say twenty years ago.

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Speaker 19: You can dump that into Amazon Web Services, and a

446
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Speaker 19: lot of people have done that. From recent stats I

447
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Speaker 19: saw it looks like about thirty percent of other cloud

448
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Speaker 19: based services, things that you might use like Venmo or

449
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Speaker 19: you know.

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Speaker 4: I saw some headlines here that apparently.

451
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Speaker 19: Some airlines were affected by this. A lot of companies

452
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Speaker 19: have outsourced their services and capabilities into Amazon Web Services,

453
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Speaker 19: so just like they might Microsoft. Right, Microsoft has some

454
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Speaker 19: of the called Azure, Google has Google Cloud. They're the

455
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Speaker 19: three big players, So most businesses that would outsource some

456
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Speaker 19: type of services are using one of those three. And

457
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Speaker 19: you can see just how big Amazon Web Services is

458
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Speaker 19: by the sheer volume of outages today. I mean, you know,

459
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Speaker 19: all kinds of different services, not just Amazon services, like

460
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Speaker 19: apparently ring doorbells were down, which really, you know, hurts

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Speaker 19: my feeling. Guys, you know how much I allow to

462
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Speaker 19: be Internet things anyway, But you can see how big

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Speaker 19: this impact was by the sheer number of different services

464
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Speaker 19: that were down. And this also really gets to the

465
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Speaker 19: heart of third party risk, which ironically, I just did

466
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Speaker 19: a presentation on Friday. The idea that as I outsource

467
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Speaker 19: more of my services and capabilities for my business or

468
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Speaker 19: my organization to a third party to provide that if

469
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Speaker 19: it goes down, well, that impacts me. So it's been

470
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Speaker 19: a wild day, and you know, it looks like things

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Speaker 19: are mostly back from what I can tell, but it

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Speaker 19: looks like there were also some false starts along the way.

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Speaker 1: So what exactly happened then to Amazon web server? Was

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Speaker 1: it hacked? Was it an operator error sort of situation?

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Speaker 4: What was it?

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Speaker 19: Well, so far I haven't seen anyone that's reporting there

477
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Speaker 19: was any hacking, it looks like. And so one of

478
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Speaker 19: the reasons why people with outsource right is you can

479
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Speaker 19: do things at scale much more quickly and much less expensively.

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Speaker 19: Now you are paying a subscription service when you use

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Speaker 19: these tools, and you know, depending on how you use

482
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Speaker 19: it and how much resources you consume, it could ultimately

483
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Speaker 19: be more expensive in the long run. But generally speaking,

484
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Speaker 19: if you just want to quote spin out the server

485
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Speaker 19: real fast, it's fast and easy to do this. And

486
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Speaker 19: they have multiple data centers, so you have some redundancy.

487
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Speaker 19: The idea that it's data center A goes down, data

488
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Speaker 19: center B takes over, and your stuff keeps working. Obviously

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Speaker 19: that didn't work as well today as it perhaps it

490
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Speaker 19: could have. But it looks like in their US East

491
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Speaker 19: one region data centers they have some outage. Again, it

492
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Speaker 19: does not appear to be hacked from what I can tell,

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Speaker 19: although you know, guys, we've talked about this a lot

494
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Speaker 19: over the years, and sometimes after more due diligence is done,

495
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Speaker 19: more forensics are done, you find out that whatever the

496
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Speaker 19: initial reporting on something was is not what actually happened.

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Speaker 19: But it looks like, and without getting too nerdy on

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Speaker 19: it is something called DNS, the Main Name System. It's

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Speaker 19: a way to resolve an English like name like seven

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Speaker 19: hundred WLW dot com to the IP address that makes

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Speaker 19: it possible to find something on the Internet. From what

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Speaker 19: I could tell, it looks like there were some DNS

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Speaker 19: issues that knocked out Dynamo dB, which is a database

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Speaker 19: that a lot of people use when they're on Amazon

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Speaker 19: Web Services. And then that just started sort of a

506
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Speaker 19: cascading effect of knocking other things off. And then it

507
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Speaker 19: looks like, you know, you can go to Amazon and

508
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Speaker 19: then for what it's worth, if you're a business out there,

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Speaker 19: whether it's Amazon or Microsoft or Google you might be

510
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Speaker 19: using for some part of your business. They all have

511
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Speaker 19: dashboards you can go to and try to understand like

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Speaker 19: what is happening when these things go down? So do

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Speaker 19: you go to the Amazon Service health dashboard. They kind

514
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Speaker 19: of give you an ongoing log if you will, of

515
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Speaker 19: what's been done over time. But it looks like that

516
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Speaker 19: caused some cascading errors. And then as that went down,

517
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Speaker 19: that started to knock off other people like Zoom, Slack, Canva,

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Speaker 19: Roadblocks and other cloud based services that you would think

519
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Speaker 19: would be their own service, but they're actually using Amazon

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Speaker 19: Web Services in the back end to support.

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Speaker 4: Whatever offering they're providing to you. Again, it gives you,

522
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Speaker 4: It shows.

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Speaker 19: You just how prevalent third party risk is as we

524
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Speaker 19: rely more and more on all these digital services. And

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Speaker 19: that it's where I forget. The one thing that this

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Speaker 19: really shows guys, and I know you guys will dig this.

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Speaker 19: Think how awesome would be if we had this awesome

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Speaker 19: digital ID from the government to control everything you did

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Speaker 19: and everything you bought when a system like this went down,

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Speaker 19: because apparently it knocked some of those out as well

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Speaker 19: around the world. Think how awesome it would be if

532
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Speaker 19: you couldn't buy anything or really do anything because your

533
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Speaker 19: digital ID was down because of some sort of Again,

534
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Speaker 19: what appears to be just an error. At this point.

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Speaker 1: Now we're entering matrix territory, and I like it.

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Speaker 5: I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: There's other countries like that. They write that. I mean

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Speaker 1: in China for instance, that isn't like like the currency

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Speaker 1: kind of controlled and it's all online and there's you know,

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Speaker 1: certain times you can buy this and other times you

541
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Speaker 1: can't buy that. Am I incorrect in saying this?

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Speaker 19: Yeah, like your social credit score and so forth. And

543
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Speaker 19: here's the guy on X James Melville, spot the problem

544
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Speaker 19: with a mandate toorre digital ID controlled by the government,

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Speaker 19: and he has a screenshot of gov dot UK, the

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Speaker 19: government gateway, with it being down, presumably because of Amazon

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Speaker 19: Web Services dn M. So yeah, you know, I am

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Speaker 19: fundamentally against digital ID for any number of reasons, not

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Speaker 19: the least of which is whether it's some sort of

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Speaker 19: error in the services that make it possible or some

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Speaker 19: sort of attack by an adversarial nation state like China.

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Speaker 19: And imagine if you could knock that out, and then

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Speaker 19: imagine that you could knock it out for days or weeks,

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Speaker 19: the chaos and the problems.

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Speaker 4: That that would cause.

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Speaker 19: So again, at this point, guys, it does not appear

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Speaker 19: to be hacking. There's no indication of that. No one

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Speaker 19: is reporting that. Amazon of course is you know, pretty

559
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Speaker 19: much said that, you know, it was a DNS problem

560
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Speaker 19: that caused Dynamo dB to go down, and then that

561
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Speaker 19: started to knock other services off, and then they had

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Speaker 19: to do multiple fixes along the way to get everything

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Speaker 19: back up. And again, from what I can tell from

564
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Speaker 19: the most current reporting I could find, most services are

565
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Speaker 19: back now. But this really should be a wake up

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Speaker 19: call to everyone that's out there again about the idea

567
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Speaker 19: of third party risk if you're just going out and

568
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Speaker 19: signing up for the first thing you find, if you're

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Speaker 19: not doing any betting, because again, Amazon Web Services, if

570
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Speaker 19: you're in the business like me, they're one of the

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Speaker 19: eight hundred pound earlists there Again, roughly thirty percent of

572
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Speaker 19: the entire Internet is ultimately supplied by.

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Speaker 4: Amazon Web Services.

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Speaker 19: That you will you know, the idea that you as

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Speaker 19: a business need to have your business working and available

576
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Speaker 19: around the clock or whatever. If you're not carefully vetting

577
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Speaker 19: these services, you know, what do you think the mom

578
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Speaker 19: and pop shop down the street is capable of versus

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Speaker 19: someone like Amazon, who is raking in billions of dollars

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Speaker 19: a year just from Amazon Web Services alone. I mean,

581
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Speaker 19: if you dig into their revenue stream, you'll see if

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Speaker 19: AWS isn't number one, it's near the top of the

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Speaker 19: way they produce revenue with Amazon. So it's a powerful

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Speaker 19: and important capability for them and then also for all

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Speaker 19: of the people that rely on it to provide their services. Again,

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Speaker 19: I'm just reading some headlines the Zoom Slack canva. I

587
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Speaker 19: think United Airlines many other businesses were impacted by this today.

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Speaker 1: Well and Dave, We've talked about this a lot, but

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Speaker 1: I feel like it comes back to the same issue,

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Speaker 1: and that is, especially when it comes to tech, people

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Speaker 1: don't know how it works. They don't want to know

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Speaker 1: how it works. They just want to work all the

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Speaker 1: time and expect that it's going to work.

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Speaker 20: Right.

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Speaker 1: So, I guess what is the going forward? Do you

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Speaker 1: see this happening more or or? I mean, you know,

597
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Speaker 1: most people don't know how to open up their own

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Speaker 1: server and do all that. Other's like, hell, well that's

599
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Speaker 1: way over my head. I'll just pay Amazon to do that.

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Speaker 1: And I guess that can get you in trouble.

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Speaker 19: Well, you know, that's a good question, Rocky. Do I

602
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Speaker 19: think there'll be more of this? I think potentially there

603
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Speaker 19: will now again, these guys are at the top of

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Speaker 19: the heap in terms of their capabilities and so forth,

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Speaker 19: and it'll be really interesting over the next few days

606
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Speaker 19: to get a more after action report or post mortem,

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Speaker 19: if you will, over what really happened. Once the dust

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Speaker 19: kind of settles around this and the services are back

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Speaker 19: online and you know, you can build redundancy. It's one

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Speaker 19: of the things we preach all the time at interest

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Speaker 19: to customers to think about resiliency is what is an

612
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Speaker 19: outage in downtime going to do to your business? You know,

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Speaker 19: can you withstand not being able to operate for a

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Speaker 19: day or two days or a week, Because if you're

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Speaker 19: willing to spend enough money, you know, you can almost

616
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Speaker 19: always build a system that will give you what we

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Speaker 19: nerds like to call five of uptime. I mean, it's like,

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Speaker 19: you know, it's it's up almost one hundred percent of

619
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Speaker 19: the time, but that gets really expensive and you know

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Speaker 19: it may not necessarily be warranted. I think, you know.

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Speaker 19: When Again, the key thing I would encourage everyone that's

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Speaker 19: out there to think about, is okay third party risk

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Speaker 19: when I sign up for some cloud based service for

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Speaker 19: whatever reason, if it's mission critical to my business. You know,

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Speaker 19: what is the backup plan? What does an outage mean

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Speaker 19: for me? Can I spend more money and get more services?

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00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 4: Again?

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Speaker 19: This is pro if you think about it. When's the

629
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Speaker 19: last time you heard about an outage of this scale?

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Speaker 19: And the last time I can remember was when CrowdStrike

631
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Speaker 19: caused an outage and that was not a cloud based thing.

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Speaker 19: That was an essentially an anti virus agent that went

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Speaker 19: bad and you know, knocked out a bunch of the

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Speaker 19: Windows computers that it was running on. So, you know,

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Speaker 19: I think there is the potential to see more at

636
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Speaker 19: this because more and more people rely on these days.

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Speaker 19: And my real concern about all this has always been

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Speaker 19: until we get serious as a society about buildings that

639
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 19: are resilient and robust and are very difficult, if not impossible,

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Speaker 19: to knock out and obviously nothing is it possible? As

641
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 19: we rely more and more of this stuff, guys, you know,

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00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 19: the societal risk continues to grow. That's why we need

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Speaker 19: things like the Cybersegerity and infrastructure security agencies, Secure by

644
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Speaker 19: Design IDEA and software bill of materials so you understand

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Speaker 19: what you're signing up for and have some visibility into

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Speaker 19: these services and transparency as opposed to you just hope

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Speaker 19: it doesn't go out. And again, this doesn't happen very often,

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Speaker 19: but when it does happen, it causes a lot of chaos.

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Speaker 19: And again, imagine if you were digital IDs were all

650
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Speaker 19: connected to this and that system just went down and

651
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Speaker 19: you basically were cut off. What a bad idea that

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Speaker 19: would be and how unfortunate.

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Speaker 4: That would be for society.

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Speaker 19: So essentially, yes, we don't need digital idea. It's a

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Speaker 19: terrible idea, you know, central bank, digital currency, all these things.

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Speaker 19: It's a bad idea for many reasons. But this outage,

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Speaker 19: just in the last day shows you how how catastrophic.

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Speaker 9: Did it be.

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Speaker 19: And now imagine if it turns out this was some

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Speaker 19: sort of nation state actor like China or Russia that

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Speaker 19: caused this, And imagine if they wouldn't have been able

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Speaker 19: to Again, assuming it's all fixed, and that what I

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Speaker 19: can tell, it looks like most everything is back. Now

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Speaker 19: this went on for days or couldn't be fixed for weeks.

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Speaker 19: The kind of chaos this would cause. All right, well, uh,

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Speaker 19: it's it's not just games like roadblocks, it's United airlines,

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Speaker 19: it's all kinds of things. So anyway, I'll shut up.

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Speaker 2: I see before like my son's uh with their if

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Speaker 2: their game access goes down, that is a natural, uh

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Speaker 2: national catastrophe with the with that day. We will let

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Speaker 2: you go, buddy, thanks so much.

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Speaker 19: I always want to pleasure guys.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Dave had He and yeah, big deal. It didn't

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Speaker 2: affect me at all, but obviously it affected a lot

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Speaker 2: of people.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 1: It's again, it's just one of those things people don't

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Speaker 1: give a damn how it works. It just needs to work.

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Speaker 1: I mean electricity, I mean, do you know exactly how electricity? No,

680
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Speaker 1: but when you flip that switch, it better go on

681
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 1: or you're all kinds of upset. That's kind of the

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Speaker 1: same thing, but like a little more complicated. And there's

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Speaker 1: clouds and there's servers, and there's all this other.

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Speaker 5: Stuff with that.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know how this is a microphone works.

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Speaker 2: But let's let's see. Rick has the traffic for us.

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Speaker 1: It's the magic of radius.

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Speaker 2: The magic of radius. They're an old ad campaign like that,

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Speaker 2: the magic. Yeah, we're magical unicorns here.

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Speaker 6: That's exactly what we keep telling ourselves, you know, with

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Speaker 6: that digital idea. The only thing I hear is another

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Speaker 6: password I gotta remember I don't need that. I mean,

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Speaker 6: for the love of God, got enough.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that that is annoying.

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Speaker 2: I just got up. Why I'm just I'm sorry interrupt,

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Speaker 2: but I just got a Literally, as I was walking

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Speaker 2: into the office, I got a text from a number

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Speaker 2: in Oklahoma asking me if I went in Mexican Food

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Speaker 2: tonight for dinner. Where does that come from?

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Speaker 6: But go ahead, I reckon, just well, maybe it's a

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Speaker 6: guy named you know Poco, you met years ago.

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Speaker 1: You never know it.

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Speaker 6: five eight four Pink. Two seventy five eastboun approaching Montgomery.

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Speaker 6: It's the left lane taking up with an accident and

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Speaker 6: CRUIS are on the scene getting this handle. We've got

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Speaker 6: a breakdown out reported on seventy one north bound of

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Speaker 6: Ronald Reagan Cross County Highway. It's off on the right

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Speaker 6: hand side. Slow traffic on seventy five southbound from the

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Speaker 6: Brent Spence down to Freeman. That is because of an

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Speaker 6: earlier accident that has cleared out of the way in

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Speaker 6: seventy five southbound rod A Reagan Highway down to Norwood Ladder,

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Speaker 6: where you have about a five minute trip through the area.

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Speaker 2: toned portly cloudy, a slight chance of a shower, the

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Speaker 5: and you tell me the first thing that pops into

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Speaker 5: Monkey listening to scott Sloan, you're telling me they don't.

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Speaker 1: Best Price, the first time.

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Speaker 2: Enforcing tough menu choices, the call, overhead costs, you know, inflation, marketing,

738
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Speaker 2: hiring runner restaurant man. I tell you, I used to

739
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 2: think that that was something I would have wanted to do.

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Speaker 1: Uh huh, No, not not at all. And I think

741
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Speaker 1: a lot of it all stemmed back to COVID and

742
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Speaker 1: just how how much everyone was lied to and all

743
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Speaker 1: the dumb things they put in place. But it drove

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Speaker 1: prices through the roof it. You know, I never heard

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00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: the term supply chain issue more during that time, and

746
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Speaker 1: I think you continue to hear it. But you know,

747
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 1: it's certainly tough for these guys to own restaurants. I

748
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Speaker 1: definitely feel for them. But at the end of the day,

749
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Speaker 1: you're not in this to provide free food. You're into

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Speaker 1: This is a business, and you got to make some

751
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Speaker 1: money off of it. But it's getting tougher and tougher

752
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Speaker 1: because those prices just kind of keep rising.

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Speaker 2: Well, it says here, blah blah blah blah. The basic

754
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 2: math is whatever product you have, you should divide by three,

755
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 2: and that's what the product should cost to the consumer

756
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Speaker 2: to operate at a healthy margin. If the prices continue

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Speaker 2: to increase. There's only so much that could consumer is

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Speaker 2: going to be willing to pay. And as you and

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Speaker 2: I were talking, it seems to me it wasn't all

760
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Speaker 2: that long ago you could go out and get a

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Speaker 2: really good meal for one hundred bucks. Now going out

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Speaker 2: and getting a decent meal is going to be one

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Speaker 2: hundred dollars.

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Speaker 1: Yea easy, that's where we're at. Yeah, and a just

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Speaker 1: kind of an average meal. Hey, we just want to

766
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Speaker 1: get some of our bellies and get on with it

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Speaker 1: is becoming expensive.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's talk to our expert in these matters.

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Speaker 4: He is.

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Speaker 2: He heads up the franchise consulting company, the Great American

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Speaker 2: Franchise Expo. He's author of the franchise NBA. He's been

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Speaker 2: with us many times. I always love talking to our

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Speaker 2: good friend Nick. NEI and acas Nick, welcome.

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Speaker 9: Back, Hey Eddie, Hey Rochie. Great to be back.

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Speaker 2: So Nick, how long Rock and I are? We just

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Speaker 2: talking about how how is this sustainable for these guys.

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Speaker 22: It's a tough, tough corner of the economy right now,

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Speaker 22: and it really has been since the pandemic. No, you

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Speaker 22: have all these massive shocks that got crammed in just

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Speaker 22: a couple of months. I mean from labor to you know, food, transportation, energy,

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Speaker 22: I mean, everything really hit and you know fully but

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Speaker 22: surely we start climbing out of it, and then it's

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Speaker 22: like whack a mole.

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Speaker 9: Right, So now food costs continue to go up and

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Speaker 9: you nailed it.

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Speaker 22: I mean, at some point, how can you afford to

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Speaker 22: take a family of four or you know, five or

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Speaker 22: six out to eat if it's gonna be you know,

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Speaker 22: thirty bucks ahead, forty bucks ahead.

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Speaker 1: And Nick, let me ask you this, is there like

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Speaker 1: a magic number in terms of a profit margin that

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Speaker 1: most restaurants are trying to hit. You know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: if if to buy the ingredients for that cheeseburger cost x,

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Speaker 1: we're trying to we need to mark it up to

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Speaker 1: be able to make this to just kind of keep

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Speaker 1: the lights on and turn some kind of profit.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, you know traditional margins and restaurant world, we're about

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Speaker 22: twenty five to thirty three percent should be your food costs. Right,

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Speaker 22: So if you buy something for a buck, triple it,

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Speaker 22: then you're going to have labor overhead and you should

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Speaker 22: get a profit, a net profit in your pocket that's going.

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Speaker 9: To be in the low teens to mid teens.

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Speaker 22: Right, This is never a technology we're going to make

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Speaker 22: eighty six percent on our margin, you know, or medical

805
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Speaker 22: you know, or sometimes it could be crazy.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 22: This is honest business where people are saying for every

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Speaker 22: one hundred dollars that I sell, I'm going to get

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Speaker 22: ten or twelve dollars for me.

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Speaker 1: That sounds very much, Mark, I would say that's tos's tight.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of work. These folks are going through

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Speaker 1: and busting their butts, uh in having high prices just

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Speaker 1: to get a ten percent. That's that's rough, right, Well, that's.

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Speaker 9: Why you're seeing a lot of restaurants close up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it seems more and more, Nick And what

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Speaker 2: can you say about that as far as the business goes,

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Speaker 2: because I've seen a lot of businesses or a lot

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Speaker 2: of restaurants around here that are closing. Now, we just

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Speaker 2: found out that the big chain here that came into well,

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Speaker 2: they're supposed to supplant fishes here, the Big Boy chain

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Speaker 2: with the Dolly's chain. I'm sure you're familiar with them

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Speaker 2: out of Michigan.

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Speaker 5: I believe they are.

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Speaker 2: And now that we just found out that they're all

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Speaker 2: closing down here in the area.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, you know, it's it's really going to bring out

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Speaker 22: the best in American entrepreneurs, which is we always shine

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Speaker 22: when times are tough. Not easy for the guys that

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Speaker 22: are going out, but the reality is you've got three

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Speaker 22: hundred and thirty million people. Every one of them is

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Speaker 22: going to eat at least a couple times a day,

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Speaker 22: and people are going to want to go out to eat,

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Speaker 22: whether they're busy, they're on the road, they don't have

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Speaker 22: the time to cook.

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Speaker 9: So there's always going to be a market.

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Speaker 22: So the challenge is how do you take this scenario

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Speaker 22: where on one side, if you're clever, you've got a

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Speaker 22: really good opportunity because people who are less clever are

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Speaker 22: going to go out of business. Right, just because everything

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Speaker 22: is more expensive, it doesn't mean people are going to

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Speaker 22: figure things out.

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Speaker 9: What does that look like.

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Speaker 22: It looks like lower cost food products that are used

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Speaker 22: to offset higher cost food products.

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Speaker 9: Think about French fries and a burger.

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Speaker 22: Right, potatoes are going to be cheaper, the meat's gonna

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Speaker 22: be more expensive, so you're probably gonna see bigger portions

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Speaker 22: of fries, smaller beef patties.

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Speaker 9: But people are going to eat it.

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Speaker 22: And if we are unfortunately giving too much, then the

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Speaker 22: market isn't going to reward us.

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Speaker 9: So that's the landscape that I think that we're in.

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Speaker 22: And there is opportunity out there because the demand is there,

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Speaker 22: but it's a real tight rope.

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Speaker 9: But that's where big money is.

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Speaker 1: Is there a certain kind of food that or the

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Speaker 1: margins are better. I mean traditionally breakfast food was always

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Speaker 1: kind of had pretty good margins and there you know,

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Speaker 1: eggs went high. I think they're kind of back down now.

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Speaker 1: But is there anything else that's you know, profit margins

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Speaker 1: are usual, or at least have been in the past

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Speaker 1: pretty good.

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Speaker 22: You know, anything that has a long shelf life is

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Speaker 22: going to be a good margin, right, think of rice,

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Speaker 22: of pasta, think of pizza.

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Speaker 9: Right, it's flour and water.

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Speaker 22: These are things that you can stack up and store

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Speaker 22: and keep, which isn't great for the health of our

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Speaker 22: country because fresh vegetables, right, fresh meat, fish, things like

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Speaker 22: this that are healthy for you have a very high

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Speaker 22: cost of storage and of spoilage. And that is it's

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Speaker 22: a really unfortunate observation when you think about it, because

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Speaker 22: what it does is it makes us all less healthy

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Speaker 22: if we can't afford to eat well. It actually hurts

875
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Speaker 22: us as a nation because we're eating garbage.

876
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Speaker 1: Right well, and I think that's probably again add this

877
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Speaker 1: to the list of a hun hundred things that are

878
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Speaker 1: hurting restaurants. Now to your point about shelf life, I

879
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Speaker 1: don't know about you, but I feel like I've seen

880
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: a big push within the last year about people pointing

881
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: out the additives that are in the foods and the

882
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Speaker 1: dyes and all the emulcifying agents and all this sort

883
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Speaker 1: of things. So I feel like that's turning people away

884
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Speaker 1: from restaurants that to some degree. Do you see that.

885
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Speaker 9: One?

886
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Speaker 22: I mean, everything is going to have elasticity of price, right,

887
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Speaker 22: price goes up higher, fewer people can afford it.

888
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 9: They're fewer people that can buy it.

889
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 22: So if we're taking those things out of the food chain,

890
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 22: which you know, we really probably shouldn't be eating all

891
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 22: this garbage, then it's going to make food costs go

892
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 22: up even more. That's just going to make it less

893
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Speaker 22: affordable to people.

894
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Nick Neanoccus is our guest, And Nick, is there

895
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Speaker 2: a category of restaurant by that, I mean Chinese, Mexican

896
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 2: blah blah blah that would that would tend to be

897
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Speaker 2: able to kind of skirt around these issues or is

898
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Speaker 2: it just kind of all over the board.

899
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Speaker 9: Well, it's a little all over the board.

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Speaker 22: But you know, if you take a look historically, take

901
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Speaker 22: a look at Domino's pizza. Okay, you get a war,

902
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Speaker 22: you get a recession, domino stock goes up, and I'm

903
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Speaker 22: not giving financial advice, but you know, because it's inexpensive food, right,

904
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Speaker 22: it's it's flour So businesses, restaurants, categories that have an

905
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Speaker 22: over reliance on things like pasta and flower based product

906
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Speaker 22: like pizza, those tend to do well. You start getting

907
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Speaker 22: into the you know, all organic, fancy fresh vegetables, and

908
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Speaker 22: you know, unless you've got a whole line of people

909
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Speaker 22: that can pay forty five bucks, forty bucks, thirty five

910
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 22: bucks for a meal with a drink and a salad,

911
00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 22: you're not going to be a business very lock. Those

912
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Speaker 22: are the categories.

913
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry because they're like a technology that restaurant folks

914
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Speaker 1: are hoping develops that will help ease some costs. Whether

915
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Speaker 1: that's I don't know, and I don't I'm not rooting

916
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Speaker 1: for this, but you know, driverless trucks is it? I

917
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Speaker 1: don't know what it is. Is there something that that's

918
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Speaker 1: around the corner there. If it's AI that that's going

919
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 1: to help drive things down or no, Yes, you know, I.

920
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Speaker 22: Think if you take a look at technology and the

921
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 22: labor component, right, so we've got food, we've got labor,

922
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 22: we've got overhead, so we need to address each of those.

923
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Speaker 22: On the labor side, you can use technology. This is

924
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Speaker 22: where you're seeing robots, better cooking systems and processes where

925
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Speaker 22: you need fewer people to make the food. And that's

926
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Speaker 22: happening on the farm too, right, So if you go

927
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Speaker 22: all the way back into the food chain, you know,

928
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Speaker 22: this is something where we've been brilliant as Americans over

929
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Speaker 22: decades is fewer people generally more being more productive. So AI,

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Speaker 22: I think you're gonna see it working into the food

931
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Speaker 22: category by identifying peak hours, how many people do you

932
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Speaker 22: need to have?

933
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Speaker 9: What are you ordering to have on hand? So it's

934
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Speaker 9: gonna make the supply chain.

935
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Speaker 22: Tighter, you see what I mean, So you don't have

936
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Speaker 22: to have as much food that's gonna go bad because

937
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Speaker 22: you know every second Wednesday you get a huge bump

938
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Speaker 22: of traffic between four and eight pm. That's the kind

939
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Speaker 22: of insights that I think data and technology are bringing

940
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Speaker 22: and have brought and during the pandemic, that was the massive,

941
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Speaker 22: major breakdown because even though we had all these supply

942
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Speaker 22: chain systems in place, people weren't on the road. Nobody

943
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Speaker 22: was driving trucks, people weren't picking in the fields. Right,

944
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Speaker 22: So it's like, great, you have all these tools, but

945
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Speaker 22: the inputs started getting all jacked up, and that was

946
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Speaker 22: the big challenge that we had during the pandemic.

947
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Speaker 1: And general, I mean, you make that point, I'm almost

948
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Speaker 1: scared to ask, but how much food do restaurants throw out?

949
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Speaker 1: I would just I mean, it's it's gonna be awful

950
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Speaker 1: to see if you're a rushing you cook all this

951
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Speaker 1: food and it's the end of the night. And I mean,

952
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: is there any sort of grasp you have on that.

953
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Speaker 22: You know, it depends on the category, but in general,

954
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 22: you your eyes would pop out of your head, you know.

955
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Speaker 22: And it's from what people don't eat. I mean the

956
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Speaker 22: amount of waste that we have, food spoilage. You know,

957
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Speaker 22: if you go into a supermarket and go go behind

958
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Speaker 22: a supermarket just for fun and take a look at

959
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 22: how much produce gets thrown out, you know, you could

960
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Speaker 22: feed the homeless with that. And then there's you know

961
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Speaker 22: the second harvest. You've probably seen some of these they

962
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Speaker 22: have in Cincinnati. It's a great it's a great philanthropy

963
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Speaker 22: and charity where you know, you're using some of this

964
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Speaker 22: food to feed people that don't have the ability to eat,

965
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Speaker 22: don't the only buy food.

966
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Speaker 9: So yeah, we waste a lot in this country.

967
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Speaker 2: Nick Neanakis our guests and Nick before we let you

968
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Speaker 2: go one and also touch on you and I have

969
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 2: talked about this, but we're not. I think you actually

970
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 2: talked about it on the show. This new new business

971
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 2: you're involved with too. These in ground dumpsters rock this

972
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 2: is this is cool.

973
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 22: Yeah, you know we were talking about technology, how do

974
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 22: you save money? This is definitely part of that chain.

975
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 22: So this was This came in from Europe. It's a

976
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Speaker 22: vertical in ground dumpster. The companies called sub Contain Subcontained

977
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Speaker 22: dot com. You may have seen these dumpsters. They're all

978
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Speaker 22: over the world other than the United States. And you

979
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Speaker 22: can put more garbage into a smaller footprint. It's a

980
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Speaker 22: it's a tube that goes into the ground instead of

981
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Speaker 22: a metal box. So restaurants save because they don't have

982
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Speaker 22: to have the garbage picked up as often self compacts.

983
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Speaker 9: So there are a lot of things like this that

984
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 9: are that are happening.

985
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Speaker 22: This is maybe one of the fastest grow franchises I've

986
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 22: ever seen, because whether AI takes over the world or

987
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 22: robots take over the world, we as human beings will

988
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 22: create garbage and it needs to get dealt with. Hopefully

989
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 22: the you know, the trash mob doesn't coming off. All

990
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Speaker 22: these people that are involved in.

991
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Speaker 2: It's going to be involved.

992
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Speaker 1: It's funny, Yeah, it's funny.

993
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 19: You say that.

994
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: I got a friend that I that I know he is.

995
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: He's he's a millionaire and and he always said when

996
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: he was looking to go into business, he said, I

997
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 1: sat down when I was young, and I said, what

998
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: does something that everybody everybody does, everybody uses? He said,

999
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:46,280
Speaker 1: everybody needs medical care, everybody dies, everybody has medical waste,

1000
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: and everybody needs to dispose of medical waste. And that's

1001
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,720
Speaker 1: kind of where he went into his business. And boom,

1002
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: here you go, and uh, yeah, those trash impactor things

1003
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Speaker 1: are are pretty incredible. And what an aha idea just

1004
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: let self kind of pact itself. It seems very simple,

1005
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: but a brilliant ideal with those things, all right, it

1006
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Speaker 1: is and.

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00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 9: You know, Maslow's hierarchy of needs.

1008
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Speaker 22: Right, So if you've got listeners thinking about what kind

1009
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 22: of business should I be looking for? Think of the

1010
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 22: basic human necessities. These are the things that there's always

1011
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 22: going to be a need for. And you know, if

1012
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 22: I could, if you'd like some more information on this

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Speaker 22: subcontain uh take send the word franchise to two six

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Speaker 22: seven eight six. So if your listener's text franchise to

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Speaker 22: two six seven eight six, I'll send them the full

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Speaker 22: package of info about this and I'll even throw in

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00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 22: a copy of the franchise MBA my gift to your listeners.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, good stuff Nick. With the that we

1019
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 2: will let you go, Buddy, always a pleasure, Thanks so much,

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Speaker 2: Thanks fellas, Thanks buddy, our good friend Nick Neanacus. And

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Speaker 2: Dean Regus. He's out in the Grand Canyon again surveying

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Speaker 2: the stars. Yes, that's cold gig if you can get it, man,

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Speaker 2: heck yeah.

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Speaker 1: But and it almost almost pains me to play this

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Speaker 1: next clip here, but you know, I feel like maybe

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Speaker 1: it'll give us some hope, give us something that we

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Speaker 1: need here. And of course it was on this day

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Speaker 1: in history, October twentieth, nineteen ninety Cincinnati Reds fans heard this.

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Speaker 12: Landford good hitting, Oakland third baseman, and Meyer's bringing it

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Speaker 12: and the pitcher is hit in the air, foul off

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Speaker 12: first Benzinger backing and calling, and the nineteen ninety World

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Speaker 12: Championship belongs to the Cincinnati Reds. As you might expect,

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Speaker 12: they pile out of the dugout. They are jumping up

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Speaker 12: and high vibing all smiles as Blue Panilla and his

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Speaker 12: coaching staff break out of the dugout, gloves and caps

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Speaker 12: all over the endfield. The Cincinnati Reds have done the

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Speaker 12: absolute improbable by defeating the glut, considered to be the

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Speaker 12: best in Major League Baseball, and they've done it in

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Speaker 12: a four game series.

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Speaker 4: Suite.

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Speaker 2: That'ssane.

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Speaker 4: Sane.

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Speaker 1: I remember, I remember that SoundBite. We're listening to its

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Speaker 1: last time the Reds heead glory head right there.

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Speaker 2: Well, and it just it kills me too, just to

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Speaker 2: you remind me that was the last game of the

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Speaker 2: World Series, that the World Cherries has even started yet, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I granted that was thirty some years ago, but still, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think we should be playing baseball

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00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 2: in November, dude, I don't care if it is in LA.

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00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it done before beforehand. But no, that

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00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: was yeah, remember well, and I just remember being I

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00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: was ten years old and just remember being like just

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00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: overcome by how big that was in Cincinnati and how

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00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: everybody was into him. I'm not again ten years older.

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00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 1: You remember stuff when you're young. I remember my mom

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00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 1: got this like, uh, you know, kind of like little

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00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: craft necklace. I don't know if she made I don't know,

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00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: but it had a broom on it and Cincinnati Reds

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00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 1: thing and which was you know with a sweep. Was

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00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 1: was very cool, remember going to work with that on.

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00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was a big moment.

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00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 11: Well.

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00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 2: Speaking of baseball though, how about a Tawny over the weekend?

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00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 1: Man, we have ten strikeouts and three home runs? Was

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00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 1: that the official stats in six innings? I mean, you know,

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00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,399
Speaker 1: and you can understand, you know, when you hear people

1108
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: say he's maybe the greatest baseball player of all time,

1109
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: you go, come on, but he does stuff like that.

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00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 1: I think there is only one way to really overcome

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00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 1: some of the big names like Ruth and all that.

1112
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 1: It's it's to be dominant in two things, you know,

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00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 1: I mean, the most dominant hitter and a dominant pitcher,

1114
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 1: which is unheard of. And he's doing it.

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00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 2: See that that was back in the day. Ruth started

1116
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 2: as a pitcher right because he was so good and

1117
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 2: put him in the outfield.

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00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, incredible. Another news that Jack Cromley just passed

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00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: us across my desk here and I haven't had a

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00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: chance to digest all of it, but it's I think

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00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: it's a sign of things to come. Ohs AA athletes

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00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: will be able to make NIL deals after a ruling

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00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 1: in the Ohio States, if they're ruling that just came down. So, uh,

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00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: Franklin County judge ruled in favor of one of the

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00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 1: top high school football players in the country. And if

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00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:03,720
Speaker 1: you haven't heard this kid, his name is Jamiir Brown.

1127
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: I paid place for Wayne High School and Huber Heights.

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00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: Is that where you went? Okay, that's what I thought.

1129
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 1: And granting an order that temporarily halts a state prohibition

1130
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: on high school athletes from entering into an ILE deal,

1131
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: so for the foreseeable future, and I imagine this will

1132
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: be blocked by some second court of whatever. Right now,

1133
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: this will allow high school athletes to receive an IL deals,

1134
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: and right now, I believe is one of six states

1135
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 1: that don't allow an IL so most of the other

1136
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 1: ones this is happening only matter of time. And it

1137
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: happens because you know, again, the course a funny thing,

1138
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 1: and they make the case just like they did with

1139
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: the college athletes. Well, you're denying a young man in

1140
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 1: this case a right to be able to work to

1141
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: make money for his family. That's the case that's made.

1142
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 1: And you know, it's it can be you can it

1143
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 1: can be a decent case to be made. And it's

1144
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 1: kind of where we're at. I think it's I think

1145
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: it'd be a disaster. That's why I was going, I

1146
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: was going to ask you your thoughts on it. I

1147
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: I and it's hard to say that. It's because for

1148
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 1: some people like it would be, it would be something

1149
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 1: that would be life changing for their family if if

1150
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 1: you're like a very very But outside of that, I

1151
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 1: just feel like it creates a lot of just again,

1152
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: as everybody would say, a lot of problems, and especially

1153
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 1: with younger I mean you're talking about it. It's hard

1154
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: for college kids to deal with all this money and

1155
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 1: what to do with it and where to put it

1156
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: and how to protect it and all that. Now you're

1157
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: talking about young sixteen seven year old kids. Yeah, and

1158
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: you know, kids choosing high schools over over money instead

1159
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 1: of you know, maybe where their parents went or the

1160
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 1: place they want to go.

1161
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 2: And where does the money come. It's just from donors.

1162
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's it's company. I think again, it's

1163
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of how it started on college. It

1164
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 1: was like the big push was, you know, if a business,

1165
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 1: if a car dealer wants to pay the Ohio State

1166
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: quarterback money to sign autographs at his dealership on a Sunday,

1167
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: he should be able to do that, Okay, And people

1168
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: fought for that. But then that's not what it turned into.

1169
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 1: It turned into donors and businesses buying buying players. That's

1170
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 1: what it turned into. And I think again, Chris Henry Jr.

1171
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: By everything I've heard, that's why he went out to

1172
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 1: Modern Day and played because he's like, well, I could

1173
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: stick around here in Ohio he was at Withrow and

1174
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: go out there and make money and play and still

1175
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 1: go to Ohio State.

1176
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 2: So but it is it is crazy, man, that that

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00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 2: that is creeping. How low does it go?

1178
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 1: What was even crazier is I've talked to high school

1179
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 1: coaches and they are starting to see and this is

1180
00:59:56,680 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: a part of it, but high school players like opting

1181
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 1: out of their senior year kind of thing because you know,

1182
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: or whether maybe they get a little bit of money,

1183
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: or maybe they they commit to Michigan or Ohio State

1184
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 1: or something like, I don't know if I really want

1185
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 1: to risk getting hurt and getting out the area. I

1186
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: don't know if that's really the best thing I want

1187
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 1: to do. And it's crazy, but.

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01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 2: In and only a matter of time rock before it

1189
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 2: trickles down to like junior high next. I mean, you

1190
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 2: hear about people all the time going in and starting

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01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 2: to stealthy's the twelve, thirteen, fourteen year old kids to

1192
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:28,959
Speaker 2: that point.

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01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 1: I saw a video online and I can't confirm, you

1194
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 1: know how, the accuracy of it, but it was this guy.

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01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 1: He was a youth football coach talking. He's like, folks,

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01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 1: it's here. It finally happens. You know, some player like

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01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: the mom approached this guy and said, hey, we're from Florida,

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01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: and you know AJ here is the top receivers. And

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01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 1: again we're talking like ten years old, eleven years old,

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01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 1: the top players in Florida. Lots of teams that won him.

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01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 1: The price is one thousand bucks a month. He's like, well,

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01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 1: huh what yeah, but I mean you could see you

1203
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 1: can certainly certainly see it trickling down to that, and

1204
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 1: maybe there's places or coaches or teams that pay that.

1205
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 1: That's a bridge too far. That a bridge too far.

1206
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 1: High school paying of athletes is a bridge too far

1207
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:24,919
Speaker 1: from me. But that is insane being a youth parent

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01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 1: saying you want, if you want, want my guy to

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01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 1: play for you, and the case toy making is well,

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01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 1: you're a some other team is gonna pay him if

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01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 1: you don't. That's what happens. It's like people don't want

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01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 1: to do it, but then they wind up playing against

1213
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 1: that player. He winds up kicking their ass because some

1214
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 1: other opponent is paying them, and then they go, well,

1215
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 1: can't beat them, join them?

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01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 2: Oh, I would assume so that when the parents are

1217
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 2: going to gang up and you're like, what do you

1218
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 2: let that kid go for?

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01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, our team and we are kicking our butts r

1220
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 1: either kicking our butts for a couple hundred bucks. That's

1221
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: there's gotta be a line on this, and I think

1222
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 1: that's for me. That's it.

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Speaker 2: With that, we check in with traffic and weather, what

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Speaker 2: is going on and from the.

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Speaker 6: level of Madeira crash on the left shoulder and the

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Speaker 6: left shoulder on seventy one southbound pass taft as a

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Speaker 6: crash and police are on the scene. Here. We're looking

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Speaker 6: at seventy one north bound at Ronald Rig and Cross

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Speaker 6: County Highway with a breakdown off on the right shoulder

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Speaker 6: and on two seventy five Moss Elderton, Montgomery traffic is

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Speaker 6: the latest about an eleven minute trip because of the

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Speaker 6: earlier accident in that area that has now cleared out

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Speaker 6: of the way. Seventy five southbound between Renald rig and

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Speaker 6: Highway nor what lateral is sluggish southbound seventy five as

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Speaker 6: a Charnals to the Brent Spence is about a five

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Speaker 2: the low of fifty four tomorrow party cloudy and sixty

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01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 13: favorite is called Percy?

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Speaker 9: That is not true.

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01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 13: Is it true that as a child Tom Brenneman hit

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01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 13: under the covers and listen to the radio and he's incredible.

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01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:24,600
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Speaker 13: sort of things. It's a true Tom Brenneman. Buss buns

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01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:32,280
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Speaker 24: Join me for the latest news traffic from Chuck Ingram,

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01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 24: weather from Jennifer Ketchmark, plenty of laughs and a whole

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Speaker 13: Tom Brenneman tomorrow morning at five am on seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 1: Own money in high school, Yes, and we talked before

1262
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 1: the break there. SAA will now allow athletes to be

1263
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 1: able to make an IL after and also a lawsuit

1264
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 1: was brought forth by a kid by the name of

1265
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 1: Jamir Brown. He's in Ohio state wide receiver commit by

1266
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 1: most services out there. He's the number one wide receivercruit

1267
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 1: in the country. He goes to Wayne High School and

1268
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 1: Huber Heights and his attorney made the case that he's

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01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 1: already missed out and over one hundred thousand dollars of

1270
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 1: potential deals. And what he has said is he makes

1271
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 1: the case. Look, if you were a generational talent at

1272
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 1: playing trumpet, okay, then some place, some orchestra would would

1273
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 1: love your services and they would be able to pay

1274
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 1: you as a high school kid, Hey, ed, come to

1275
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 1: the New York Symphony and play trumpet for us. We don't,

1276
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 1: you know, boom, let's go. That would be allowed. But

1277
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 1: a football player, a top football player, can't do the sense.

1278
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 1: So that's the case that's made. And I guess my

1279
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 1: counter that would be I understand that. As I laid

1280
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 1: out earlier in the last segment, the nil for college

1281
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 1: players was supposed to be if a player gets his

1282
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 1: name up to a certain degree of recognition where it

1283
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 1: has some value. Where another example, a car dealer wants

1284
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 1: to or no, a local Arby's wants to have you know,

1285
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 1: young that that great quarterback Ed Fingers wants to have

1286
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 1: him in on Sunday from noon to three, and he's

1287
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:32,919
Speaker 1: gonna be there and sign autographs and pay you five

1288
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 1: thousand bucks to do that. That's what it was supposed

1289
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 1: to be, but it turned into buying players, which is

1290
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 1: what you could see happening with high school kids.

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01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 2: Oh totally. Let's take a couple of calls on it.

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01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 2: It's let's get first to Brian and Indiana. Hey, Brian,

1293
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 2: what's up?

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01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 3: Hey?

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01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 20: Yeah, Okay, if a child is not legally considered of

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01:05:55,880 --> 01:06:01,479
Speaker 20: age till eighteen, then how can they really the inner

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01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 20: n I L contract without some type of parent involvement

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01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 20: and being in the middle of that and possibly selling

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Speaker 20: the kids off to the highest bid.

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Speaker 11: That's not right.

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Speaker 1: No, that's exactly what happens. Exactly what it is, exactly right,

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Speaker 1: that's what happens. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the kid can't do anything on his own, you know. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: let's uh, let's talk to Gary. Hey, Gary, what's going

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Speaker 2: on in Walnut Hills, buddy? Or Western Hills after and.

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Speaker 11: Gentlemen, So isn't this a form of exactly what Mohler

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Speaker 11: was doing years ago when we know a faust Yeah,

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Speaker 11: sat there and moved families into the into the district

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Speaker 11: so that the kids could.

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Speaker 9: Go to Molar.

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Speaker 11: It's just a form of the exact same thing. Mike.

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Speaker 11: My biggest thing is this, especially for high school.

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Speaker 9: If if you're getting any.

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Speaker 11: Type of scholarship at all to go to a high school,

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Speaker 11: to play a sport. Aren't you getting paid anyway? Isn't

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Speaker 11: the scholarship in itself form of payment?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: It is.

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Speaker 1: And here's the other loophole. If you want to look

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Speaker 1: into the inner workings of this. High schools are allowed

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Speaker 1: to give some scholarships for anything, and you can call

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Speaker 1: it anything. You can call it a leadership scholarship. Well,

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Speaker 1: what's the criter here, I don't know, be a leader,

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Speaker 1: whatever the hell that means. And they can give it

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Speaker 1: to They just happen to give it to that football

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Speaker 1: player right there. You get the you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: Rocky em boyman leadership scholarship, right boom and that guy

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Speaker 1: comes in, So, yeah, it is. It's it is kind

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Speaker 1: of the same thing. It's just I guess a little

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Speaker 1: more forthright that it's actual cash.

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Speaker 12: Right.

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Speaker 11: And I'll tell you write this down a piece of

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Speaker 11: paper mail through yourself. Ten years from now. This is

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Speaker 11: going to be the ruin of high school sports and

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Speaker 11: college sports. This nil thing. This will be the ruin

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Speaker 11: of that because there is no commitment. And it's started

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Speaker 11: years ago with coaches being able to sign a five year,

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Speaker 11: three year contract and then another school comes calling after

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Speaker 11: four years and that coach leaves. There's no commitment on

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Speaker 11: the coaches level. There's not gonna be any commitment on

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Speaker 11: the player's level. What are we teaching these people about commitment?

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Speaker 11: When are we teaching our young adults about commitment? I

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01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 11: can go someplace until I find something better. Oh, I

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01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 11: can go someplace there until I find something better. And

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01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 11: kids are entering the porthole every year to go and

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Speaker 11: up the up the anti.

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Speaker 1: I guess the case commitment. I guess the case we

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Speaker 1: made is. And let me ask you that, like, what

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Speaker 1: do you do for a living or did you do

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Speaker 1: for a living?

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Speaker 19: I used to own my own business.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you owned your own business. So what would

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Speaker 1: stop you from going from another business down the street

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Speaker 1: wants to pay one hundred thousand dollars more a year.

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Speaker 1: You're able to freely go and take that and join

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Speaker 1: that business because they're paying you more. Right, why shouldn't

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Speaker 1: I coach or a player. I'm just saying that's the

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Speaker 1: case that can be.

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Speaker 4: Made well, and I'm fine with that.

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Speaker 11: My point is, honor the commitment. If you sign a

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Speaker 11: five year deal to go and I don't know all

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Speaker 11: the ins and outs of scholarships for kids you know, scholarships,

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Speaker 11: from my understanding is it's like a one year thing

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Speaker 11: at a time. I mean, you may say you're going

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Speaker 11: to go to Ohio State University for five years to

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Speaker 11: play football, but it's one year to the next year

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Speaker 11: to the next year. There are criteria that have to

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01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:31,680
Speaker 11: be met in order for you to continue to get

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Speaker 11: that scholarship. But in a coach's situation, he sits and says,

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Speaker 11: I'm going to go coach for Ohio State and I'm

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Speaker 11: going to stay there for five years. And three years

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Speaker 11: or four years later, UCLA or Wisconsin or whoever comes

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Speaker 11: along and says, we'd like to have come to play here,

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01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 11: we'll buy your contract out. Well, you've got players that

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01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 11: have committed to coming and playing for coach Johnson or

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01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 11: coach Smith or whoever it may be, and suddenly they're going, well,

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01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:03,640
Speaker 11: wait to say, he's not even gonna be here. I

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01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:06,600
Speaker 11: want to leave it too. That's the reason why the

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01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 11: whole thing started rambling downhill. It's like a little snowball

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01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 11: that you push down a hill and eventually it turns

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01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 11: into a great, big boulder. It's just all going to

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01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 11: get out of control, and and you can see it

1383
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 11: happening already.

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Speaker 19: That's just my opinion.

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01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 11: I mean, I might be totally but.

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01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 9: I'm with you.

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01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:28,559
Speaker 1: Uh, I guess, but I guess the Devil's advocate again,

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01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 1: I am. I'm firmly with it there needs. I'm okay

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01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 1: with the players being paid to some degree, but how

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01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 1: it's being done I think is crazy. Like I mean,

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01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow can't in the middle of the year say,

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01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 1: you know what, I decided that I want more money

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01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 1: from uh, you know, the New York Giants, and I'm

1394
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 1: gonna have a better chance. No, there's a contract. Yeah,

1395
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:51,639
Speaker 1: if you have a five year contract, you got to commit.

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01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 1: And in college it's it's crazy you can leave a

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01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 1: place and go to a place for the spring portal

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01:10:57,680 --> 01:10:59,679
Speaker 1: and and be there in the spring that another place

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01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:02,560
Speaker 1: can Again, the other side of the argument would be

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01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:05,640
Speaker 1: just a point on both sides, and people say, oh,

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01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 1: this is ruining college football. College football has never been

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01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 1: more popular. I mean, look at the TV ratings, Look

1403
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 1: at the fact that I and also and look at

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01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 1: the fact that like Indiana, Indiana is like maybe the

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01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:19,679
Speaker 1: best football team in the nation right now and could

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01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 1: be sustainable for years to come. Well because they have

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01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 1: a good nil right, right, buddy, John Cougar Mellen Camp.

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01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:30,680
Speaker 1: I think is he's not. I'm just kidding. But nevertheless,

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01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 1: you know, so that's the other side of it is

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01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 1: some other places that were never ever going to be

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01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 1: powers now can be. So it's it's certainly interesting and

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01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:41,519
Speaker 1: that's why it's such a great talking point.

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Speaker 2: Coming up, we're gonna be talking to our good friend Deanrigez.

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01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:47,879
Speaker 2: He is out gazing at the stars in the bottom

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Speaker 2: of the Grand Camp.

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Speaker 5: I think he.

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Speaker 2: I think I saw that he's at the bottom of

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01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 2: the Greg Canyon the other day. He was, he was

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01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:54,680
Speaker 2: he hiked down there.

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Speaker 19: Yeah.

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01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:59,560
Speaker 2: See, he's living a life. Come on, he's an astronomer

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01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 2: to the man. He's a chopper down there.

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01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got one of those luxury donkeys that breake

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01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:08,600
Speaker 1: him down there, with like the extra long fur and

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01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 1: the padded the saddle.

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Speaker 16: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he ain't hooking down there, my friend.

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Speaker 2: We'll be talking to him after the news right now

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Speaker 2: on news radio seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 13: News Traffic and Weather. News Radio seven hundred WLW Cincinnati.

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Speaker 21: Could be a step closer to allowing high school kids

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Speaker 21: to be paid.

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Speaker 5: This is the five oh two report.

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Speaker 21: I'm Matt's breaking Now, Ohio high school athletes are now

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Speaker 21: temporarily allowed to be paid in the debate over nil compensation,

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Speaker 21: that's name, image and likeness. Ohio is one of just

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Speaker 21: a handful of states that doesn't allow high school athletes

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Speaker 21: to be compensated. The top wide receiver in the state,

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Speaker 21: Jmir Brown of Wayne High School and the Dayton area,

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Speaker 21: has hired an attorney to sue over the band.

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Speaker 25: What being asked here is for a student athlete to

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Speaker 25: be able to earn compensation, not to just be given compensation,

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Speaker 25: but to earn it based on the licensing of their name,

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Speaker 25: image and likeness for social media influencing and other things.

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Speaker 25: And so that is an opportunity for high school student athletes.

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Speaker 21: That's attorney Luke Fedlam who has now won a temporary

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Speaker 21: restraining order on that state wide band, blocking it until

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Speaker 21: another hearing that's coming up on December fifteenth. The Ohio

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Speaker 21: High School Athletic Association is expected to give details soon.

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Speaker 21: And now we turn to your drive home this afternoon.

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Speaker 6: seventy one northbound of Ronald Reagan Cross County Highway. And

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Speaker 6: we've got the heavier pockets of traffic on two seventy

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Speaker 6: five getting across the Carrol Cropper Bridge. We have that

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Speaker 6: bridgework in effect for a little while longer, and then

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Speaker 6: to seventy five is also sewing at the Combs Hil

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Speaker 6: Bridge with the ongoing bridge work on seventy five northbound

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Speaker 6: two seventy five to the Brent Spence It's about a

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Speaker 27: a morning low of fifty degrees coming tomorrow that early chance,

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Speaker 27: and then mostly sunny, a high of sixty five at night,

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Speaker 27: mostly clear. We dropped to forty four from your severe

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Speaker 27: Weather station. I'm nine First Warning Chief Meteorologist, Steve Raley

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Speaker 21: Sixty five degrees in Cincinnati. This news brought to you

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Speaker 21: How does Cincinnati rank well safer than Cleveland and Columbus.

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Speaker 26: Your report shows as Cincinnati came in one hundred and

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Speaker 26: thirty fifth on a list of the safest cities in America.

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Speaker 26: All of HOUP compared the one hundred and eighty biggest

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Speaker 26: like natural disasters and economic indicators that could impact someone's safety. Warwick,

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Speaker 26: safe New Orleans and Memphis, Sinna I did finish ahead

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Speaker 26: of Cleveland, Columbus, Akron and Toledo, de meaning the safest

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Speaker 21: Safety issues in Cincinnati is the reason the chief of

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Speaker 21: police is under pressure to resign. It's been in no

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Speaker 21: indication if and when that's going to happen. But Chief

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Speaker 21: Teresa Fiji does have an attorney and is apparently negotiating

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Speaker 21: her departure from the Cincinnati Police Department. An update on

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Speaker 21: one of the latest acts of violence today, bond set

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Speaker 21: at two point six million dollars for twenty four year

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Speaker 21: old Shaquille Ferguson, surrendered after last week's shooting at the

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Speaker 21: City Bird restaurant on Fountain Square. A sixteen and nineteen

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Speaker 21: year old were injured. That bond includes another shooting that

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Speaker 21: occurred in Northside that Ferguson is suspected in a couple

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Speaker 21: of days earlier, Wall Street closing hire to kick off

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Speaker 21: the week, text shares leading the way. I had some

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Speaker 21: big name earnings reports coming out in the coming days.

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Speaker 21: Apple was up four percent, DOW gained five point fifteen

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Speaker 2: This next our next guest leads, we of course are

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01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 2: talking about our good friend, astronomer to the stars, our

1537
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 2: good friend Dean Reekus. I'm just thinking about you helicoptering

1538
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:19,720
Speaker 2: down there or writing or having the best donkey of

1539
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:22,720
Speaker 2: the herd is taking you down there. How does it work, Deane?

1540
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 4: That's pretty much got I just you know, anytime, I

1541
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:31,640
Speaker 4: just make a few calls. Helicopter down, helicopter back up. No,

1542
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:34,640
Speaker 4: it's a little less glamorous than that. But I am

1543
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:36,840
Speaker 4: having a great time here at the Grand Canyon doing

1544
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:39,439
Speaker 4: astronomy programs and doing a lot of hiking too.

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01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 1: All right, and Dean, what in particular are you are

1546
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 1: you doing at the moment.

1547
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 4: Well, I'm getting ready for a program doing something tonight,

1548
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 4: doing a what's called star and constellation talk. We're going

1549
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:52,640
Speaker 4: to go out kind of by the rim of the

1550
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:55,680
Speaker 4: Grand Canyon. I'll point out some stars and constellations and

1551
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 4: spend some mythology and just answer a lot of astronomy questions.

1552
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 4: So I was the astronomer and residence here for a while,

1553
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 4: and they keep letting me come back. So it's been

1554
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:09,759
Speaker 4: a great I've been out here for about ten days

1555
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 4: and it's a little interesting with the shutdown going on.

1556
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 4: Rangers are kind of not around, but the public is

1557
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 4: still here and everything's open and it's everybody's everybody's doing

1558
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:24,720
Speaker 4: really well, everybody's behaving themselves. I have to stay here

1559
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 4: at the canyon.

1560
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 2: So where where are you based at the at the

1561
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 2: at this time? Are you down in the base of

1562
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 2: the canyon, down on the floor of the canyon, or

1563
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 2: are you where you usually are? I believe it's that

1564
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:38,639
Speaker 2: there's some kind of lot or something at on the rim.

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01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 4: I'm at the South Rim. That's the most popular section

1566
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 4: of the Grand Canyon, so that's the one's closest to

1567
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 4: like Phoenix and Las Vegas and that kind of thing,

1568
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 4: and so that's where the place for the classic views.

1569
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 4: And I get they give me a house to live in,

1570
01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 4: so it's a pretty sweet digs here, and I can

1571
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:00,519
Speaker 4: just walk over to the canyon and see it and

1572
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:04,559
Speaker 4: it's a pretty nice setup. So earlier in the week

1573
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:07,160
Speaker 4: I did go down into the canyon and walked all

1574
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 4: the way down the river. A lot of the trails

1575
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:13,640
Speaker 4: are closed down there, and Phantom Branch, the community down there,

1576
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 4: is closed mostly because of the fire they had earlier

1577
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 4: in the year, so there's a lot of recovery going

1578
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 4: on here. But it was still just gorgeous to walk

1579
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 4: down all the way to the river, and and I

1580
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 4: pretty much had had it to myself since there are

1581
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:31,599
Speaker 4: a lot fewer people down there now.

1582
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Speaker 20: Dean.

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01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:34,240
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not into conspiracy theories, but I have

1584
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:37,519
Speaker 1: heard there are certain sections of the Grand Canyon that's

1585
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 1: blocked off, and you know the reasons why. Of course

1586
01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 1: maybe you've heard, but again I don't want to get

1587
01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 1: into that. But but nonetheless, or I mean, what is

1588
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:50,800
Speaker 1: I mean, are there giant telescopes down there you can

1589
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 1: look at stuff at or.

1590
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 4: What That's one of the coolest things is that whenever

1591
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:58,639
Speaker 4: I've done programs down you know, in the inner Canyon,

1592
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:02,360
Speaker 4: so they call that, the access to that is basically

1593
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 4: by a foot, by mule, or by helicopter. If you're

1594
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:09,640
Speaker 4: like in deep trouble, that's the only way you can

1595
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:12,600
Speaker 4: actually use helicopters if they have to rescue you. And

1596
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 4: luckily they haven't had to do that to me, So

1597
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:17,960
Speaker 4: that's good. But yeah, they have telescopes down at these stations,

1598
01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:20,720
Speaker 4: so I just hike down and I can use the

1599
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 4: telescopes there. As far as like out of bounds off

1600
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 4: limits areas, the only ones that I know of are

1601
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:32,960
Speaker 4: because of like dangerous cliff situations where people fall to

1602
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 4: their deaths very easily. I think there's some uranium around

1603
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 4: there also, and mostly just they close off places because

1604
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 4: if you hike there, you're not going to come out

1605
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 4: the other side. That's pretty much what it is.

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01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:51,880
Speaker 1: Well, the conspiracy theory is there's like pyramids, like Egyptian

1607
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 1: pyramid type structures that are down in some of these cannes.

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01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 1: But again, I'm not that one of those guys.

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01:21:57,240 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 4: I quite a bit of the canyon. I haven't seen

1610
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:05,919
Speaker 4: it myself, and you know, I'm not on a government employee.

1611
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:07,640
Speaker 4: I'm not shut down, so I can I give you

1612
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 4: the real Scooper.

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01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 1: All right, Well, well, you know what, one day, you

1614
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:12,360
Speaker 1: should just take off and just run right through the

1615
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:14,439
Speaker 1: park that you're not allowed to go and dean and

1616
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 1: uncover these things. See if there are in fact pyramids

1617
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:21,560
Speaker 1: and Egyptian like structures down in the Grand Canyon that

1618
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:23,680
Speaker 1: the government is hiding from us because they don't want

1619
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 1: us to know, Dean, but you can tell us they don't.

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01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:28,639
Speaker 4: They don't want us know. That's true. So I will

1621
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:32,280
Speaker 4: find out my next trip next time. I next time

1622
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 4: I come, I make sure to set that up.

1623
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:36,680
Speaker 2: So Dean Reguez is our guest. And Dean, let me

1624
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:39,680
Speaker 2: ask you, as far as hiking down there goes, how

1625
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:41,760
Speaker 2: long does that take? Because I went to the Grand

1626
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:47,120
Speaker 2: Canyon probably it was the early nineties, and I started

1627
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:50,360
Speaker 2: to hike down there, and I got about halfway down

1628
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:51,480
Speaker 2: and then I figured.

1629
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:53,679
Speaker 1: I was like, this sucks a minute.

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01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 2: I haven't walked back up.

1631
01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:59,360
Speaker 4: Well, well, if you made it halfway down, you might

1632
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 4: as well just kept on. But yeah, it is very difficult,

1633
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:06,200
Speaker 4: that's the thing. And it's you know, to get to

1634
01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:11,639
Speaker 4: the river. Probably the quickest would be you know, it'd

1635
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:13,720
Speaker 4: take you all day basically just to get down there

1636
01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:16,599
Speaker 4: and then to get back up. That's the real tough part.

1637
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:19,880
Speaker 4: So for me when I go, I usually takes me

1638
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:22,439
Speaker 4: about five hours to go down, and then I stay

1639
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:25,880
Speaker 4: down there a few nights to recover, and then about

1640
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 4: six to seven hours to hike back all the way

1641
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:30,640
Speaker 4: to the top. So this trip. I broke it up

1642
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:33,360
Speaker 4: into two sections. I hiked halfway down to a place

1643
01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 4: called have a Suphi Gardens and stayed there a couple

1644
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:39,640
Speaker 4: of nights, and then hike down to the river and

1645
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 4: back up to that spot. So none of my hikes

1646
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 4: were crazy long, but they were still pretty tough. And

1647
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:49,320
Speaker 4: you know, with all the rangers kind of on furlough

1648
01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:52,320
Speaker 4: right now, it's you know, I'm kind of some of

1649
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 4: the unofficial eyes and ears on the trail, and I

1650
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:58,200
Speaker 4: have to say, my greatest asset is convincing people not

1651
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 4: to go down. That's my greatest have to say, so

1652
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 4: many lives as I say, don't do it, are you crazy?

1653
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 4: You'll never make it, And so I've stayed countless lives.

1654
01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 1: That's right. I wonder how many times a year that

1655
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:14,680
Speaker 1: you know, EMS crew's got to like helicopter's somebody out

1656
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:17,519
Speaker 1: of there because they just can't walk up anymore, or

1657
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 1: somebody got hurt or broken ankle. You know, I bet

1658
01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 1: it's a mess.

1659
01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 4: Every single time I've been down to the bottom, they've

1660
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:29,160
Speaker 4: had to evacuate somebody, like literally every single time they

1661
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:32,720
Speaker 4: So it happens so frequently, and it's mostly people that

1662
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 4: you know, they they see their friends doing on Facebook

1663
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 4: and they're like, oh, I.

1664
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 19: Can do that.

1665
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:39,439
Speaker 4: If builded that, I can do that, and uh yeah,

1666
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 4: they get themselves in big trouble and so but it's

1667
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 4: it is very strange to see people's you know, that

1668
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 4: they walk down so far without really a plan and

1669
01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:52,640
Speaker 4: they yeah, they So I've seen a lot of the evacuations.

1670
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 4: I've had to help people actually when I'm down there,

1671
01:24:57,280 --> 01:25:02,200
Speaker 4: and then mostly convince them to to stop walking. That's

1672
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 4: mostly what I do.

1673
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:06,680
Speaker 1: So, Deine, I was telling that earlier. I know this

1674
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 1: movie has been out forever, but I finally finished watching

1675
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 1: The Martian Okay with with Matt Damon in it, and

1676
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 1: you know, it took me a long time, just because

1677
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 1: I usually fall asleep watching stuff. But anyway, but I

1678
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:22,760
Speaker 1: was thinking, as you know, the many times we've had

1679
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 1: you on talking about trips to Mars and how long

1680
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:27,840
Speaker 1: it would take, I feel like the dates and the

1681
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 1: times they would have to do it, we're pretty accurate

1682
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:32,240
Speaker 1: to what you would. You had said, how much of

1683
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:34,760
Speaker 1: that movie, I don't know if you can eat. I

1684
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 1: guess it's hard to say is real or not because

1685
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:39,840
Speaker 1: no one's actually formed a colony on Mars. But how

1686
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:41,880
Speaker 1: much of that do you think is within the realm

1687
01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 1: of possibility of what it would be like on that planet.

1688
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very accurate. The the author of the book,

1689
01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:53,600
Speaker 4: Andy Weir, he researched this pretty well and he he

1690
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 4: gets it pretty accurate about the difficulties of going to Mars,

1691
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 4: living on Mars, and then getting back because yeah, you

1692
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 4: can't go just every day tomorrow is you have to

1693
01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:07,760
Speaker 4: have all the planets lined up and everything. So that's

1694
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 4: why you had to wait on the planet for so

1695
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:11,640
Speaker 4: long and eat all his potatoes and everything, and so

1696
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 4: it's uh, that part was really accurate.

1697
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:15,640
Speaker 25: Uh.

1698
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:18,920
Speaker 4: You know, there's some nitpicky stuff that I could get into,

1699
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:21,679
Speaker 4: but I'd say overall, that's one of the more accurate

1700
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:24,320
Speaker 4: of the books and movies I've seen when it comes

1701
01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:24,920
Speaker 4: to astronomy.

1702
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:28,559
Speaker 2: So but the uh, but that's what I was wondering.

1703
01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:30,640
Speaker 2: As far as the storms and wars and stuff, they

1704
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 2: are really that brutal up there.

1705
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 4: Oh well, now you get to that part. That was

1706
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:36,839
Speaker 4: the part I was going to say, it's not accurate.

1707
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 4: You know, there's a windstorm, the whole thing. I don't

1708
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 4: want to spoil it for anybody. But the whole wind

1709
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 4: storm that that gets him stuck there wouldn't have actually happened.

1710
01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:47,000
Speaker 4: But you know, that's beside the point. Once he's there

1711
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 4: and he's stuck, then it all worked out, all right.

1712
01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:49,800
Speaker 19: Why is that?

1713
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 1: Why Why wouldn't the windstorms happen like that.

1714
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:55,559
Speaker 4: Well, the windstorms kick up, that's for sure, but they

1715
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:58,800
Speaker 4: wouldn't have enough force to like knock over a spacecraft.

1716
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:04,920
Speaker 4: They the winds are extremely strong, but not there's not

1717
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:07,439
Speaker 4: enough atmosphere to push you around. That's the thing.

1718
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:09,200
Speaker 3: That was.

1719
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was kind of the premise of the end

1720
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:13,760
Speaker 1: of it, or without you know, spoiler alert here of

1721
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 1: why he could. They had to take all that weight

1722
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:18,360
Speaker 1: off of the ship so he could get out of there.

1723
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 1: And the guy said, hey, the atmosphere isn't that thick,

1724
01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:23,719
Speaker 1: but we need to decrease some weight.

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Speaker 4: So to your point, well, this is why you can't

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01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:29,559
Speaker 4: watch astronomy movies. Me, I'll just ruin it for everybody.

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01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:33,839
Speaker 1: You're a real drive. I'm possible.

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01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 4: Let's go back to my first answer. I said it

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01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 4: was pretty good.

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Speaker 2: It's one of those guys where he knows what the movie,

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01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:45,240
Speaker 2: you know, he knows the topic of the movie. He's

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01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:47,439
Speaker 2: an expert in it, and you'll be sitting there and

1733
01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:49,320
Speaker 2: you're thinking, Wow, that's really cool, and he's going, no,

1734
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:50,679
Speaker 2: that's stupid, stupid.

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01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:54,000
Speaker 1: It would be like you like watching a Beatles documentary

1736
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:56,519
Speaker 1: as you right now. That didn't happen. That didn't happen either.

1737
01:27:57,080 --> 01:27:57,360
Speaker 4: I did.

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01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:00,280
Speaker 2: But I saw that Bob Dylan movie. I knew a

1739
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:02,439
Speaker 2: little bit about Bob Dylan, and we're I'm saying there

1740
01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:04,439
Speaker 2: wasn't with dev and I go, well, that's stupid. That

1741
01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 2: didn't happen.

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01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 5: That's a movie.

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01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:10,000
Speaker 12: All right.

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01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:13,400
Speaker 2: Well, Dean, should we be watching for anything in the sky?

1745
01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:16,160
Speaker 5: What we have here, Well, we got a.

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01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:17,880
Speaker 4: Couple of things that are in the news. They've been

1747
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 4: talking about the comets that are in the sky. So

1748
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 4: we got a couple of comments that are up there.

1749
01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:25,479
Speaker 4: Ones in the evening, ones in the morning, right before sunrise.

1750
01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:29,479
Speaker 4: Both of them are not terribly bright and you know,

1751
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:31,479
Speaker 4: great to look at. You need a telescope to see.

1752
01:28:31,479 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 4: I know there's been news reports and you could maybe

1753
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:36,640
Speaker 4: see them naked eye. I say, no, way, that is

1754
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:39,680
Speaker 4: not correct. So here I'm being the buzzkill again. So

1755
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 4: the comets that are in the news, you definitely need

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01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:44,560
Speaker 4: some telescopes to be able to see them, so I

1757
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 4: r I rate them is not super exciting. But the

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01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:50,080
Speaker 4: thing that is exciting is tonight, really late at night,

1759
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 4: you can start to see the orion Orion. It's meteor shower.

1760
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 4: This is the annual media shower happens every October, and

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01:28:57,240 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 4: this one should be a good one. You can see

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01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:03,880
Speaker 4: maybe a maybe two dozen shooting stars per hour if

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01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:06,439
Speaker 4: you stay up late enough. So that one. So that's

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01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:10,040
Speaker 4: the real scoop comments. I'd say, man, that's a good

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01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:15,360
Speaker 4: meteor shower. That's the highlight for tonight. I would say, all.

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01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:17,080
Speaker 2: Right with that, Dean Rigus, we will let you go.

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01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 2: People want to find out more about you and what

1768
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 2: it is you do. Where can they go?

1769
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:24,559
Speaker 4: Yep, I'm all about astronomy and the Grand Canyon right now.

1770
01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 4: Astrodean dot com. That's my website. Just got Asterdean dot

1771
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:31,400
Speaker 4: com follow up me and I have all my social

1772
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:33,599
Speaker 4: media there too, and you can see the pictures I've

1773
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:36,800
Speaker 4: taken from the Grand Canyon. It's an exciting place to

1774
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:38,920
Speaker 4: be and really cool to see the night sky out here.

1775
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:41,200
Speaker 4: But looking forward to being back in Cincinnati soon.

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Speaker 1: So thanks guys being you're the best, buddy, Thank you

1777
01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:44,000
Speaker 1: so much.

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01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:47,320
Speaker 5: All right, keep looking up yep, see you buddy.

1779
01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:49,200
Speaker 9: What a gig?

1780
01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, kid man, I'm just sitting here thinking that's saying.

1781
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:54,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, what a life.

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01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:54,759
Speaker 5: That's cool.

1783
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:57,799
Speaker 1: We should have paid more attention in you know, science

1784
01:29:57,880 --> 01:30:02,920
Speaker 1: class and astronomy class. We'd be hanging out with starlets

1785
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:06,040
Speaker 1: Harlot's at the bottom of the Grand Canyon.

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Speaker 2: And I'll see, That's what I was going to say.

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Speaker 2: I think that we would missed out on that work. Astronomy, astronomy,

1788
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:18,360
Speaker 2: groopy chicks. I'm sure that they were the hottest girls

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Speaker 2: in the in school.

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Speaker 1: That's probably.

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Speaker 2: But you know what, beggers can't be choosers or astronomers

1792
01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:30,400
Speaker 2: can't be piggy. I don't it's some' something like with

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Speaker 2: the with that we chick in with traffic and weather, Rick,

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Speaker 2: while longer before we get out of here, though. Rock

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01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:41,439
Speaker 2: talking about this big Amazon Web the cloudloutage last.

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Speaker 1: Night, Yes, and we talked to Dave had her a

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01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:45,920
Speaker 1: little bit about it earlier, but here with the latest

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01:32:46,040 --> 01:32:48,439
Speaker 1: on what was going on with this So a lot

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01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 1: of folks were missing out on their Fortnite games, ed

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01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:56,080
Speaker 1: and buying stuff online. This panic pandemonium. Mike Dubuski from

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01:32:56,120 --> 01:32:58,280
Speaker 1: ABC News is here to tell us about it. Mike,

1845
01:32:58,600 --> 01:32:59,320
Speaker 1: what's the story.

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01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:03,679
Speaker 28: Yeah, so this major outage. We're still trying to wrap

1847
01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:06,719
Speaker 28: our heads around exactly the nature of this outage, but guys,

1848
01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:09,320
Speaker 28: it's undoubtedly a huge one.

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01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:09,559
Speaker 4: Right.

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01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:12,960
Speaker 28: This knocked over not just the Fortnite video game, but

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01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:16,160
Speaker 28: also Delta Airlines to a degree, and the website for

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01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:19,800
Speaker 28: the Wall Street Journal, Snapchat and others. This impacted a

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01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:22,080
Speaker 28: huge swath of the Internet and it can all be

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01:33:22,200 --> 01:33:26,000
Speaker 28: traced back to Amazon Web Services. So Amazon, we often

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01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:28,599
Speaker 28: think of them as an e commerce retailer, while they

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01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:32,599
Speaker 28: also provide cloud computing to a variety of businesses around

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01:33:32,640 --> 01:33:35,120
Speaker 28: the world. Good way to think about cloud computing is

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01:33:35,479 --> 01:33:39,120
Speaker 28: a way for like a small business to outsource computing power.

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Speaker 28: So let's say you or I want to start like

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01:33:41,320 --> 01:33:44,839
Speaker 28: a small cafe. Well, I want to focus on making pastries.

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Speaker 28: I don't want to focus on cybersecurity updates for the

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01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:49,519
Speaker 28: server that I keep in my kitchen. So I'm going

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01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:52,240
Speaker 28: to outsource that to the guys who know what they're doing.

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01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:55,320
Speaker 28: Amazon is the major player in this market. They account

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01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:57,280
Speaker 28: for about a third of it. The next third is

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01:33:57,280 --> 01:34:00,640
Speaker 28: accounted for by Microsoft and Google. That means that a

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Speaker 28: lot of power is centralized in just three companies, and

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01:34:03,479 --> 01:34:05,760
Speaker 28: that's a big part of this story as well. When

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01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:08,519
Speaker 28: one gets knocked over, it does knock over a huge

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Speaker 28: swath of the Internet, but that's basically what these services do.

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01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:16,280
Speaker 28: It appears that Amazon had an issue with what is

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01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:20,080
Speaker 28: known as their DNS or their domain name service guys.

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01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:22,400
Speaker 28: For fear of being too technical, this is a translation

1874
01:34:22,680 --> 01:34:25,839
Speaker 28: technology that takes what you type into a web browser

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01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:29,880
Speaker 28: Facebook dot Comabiesnews dot com and translates it into something

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01:34:29,920 --> 01:34:33,040
Speaker 28: that a computer can understand, an IP address in other words,

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01:34:33,080 --> 01:34:36,280
Speaker 28: so that is specifically what went wrong here. They were

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01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:39,360
Speaker 28: able to resolve the issue relatively early on, after about two.

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Speaker 9: Hours or so.

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Speaker 28: However, throughout the day we kept seeing more and more

1881
01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:46,479
Speaker 28: problems emerge, and that really speaks to exactly how deeply

1882
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:47,920
Speaker 28: connected the modern Internet is.

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Speaker 2: So Mike is obviously, when you hear something like this,

1884
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:55,280
Speaker 2: your first concern is hacking, but it appears that wasn't

1885
01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:56,960
Speaker 2: an issue right No.

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Speaker 28: Amazon says that this was not a cyber attack. There's

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01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:04,040
Speaker 28: no bad actors involved here, and that is, you know,

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01:35:04,439 --> 01:35:05,200
Speaker 28: to be expected.

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01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:05,400
Speaker 20: Right.

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01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:09,400
Speaker 28: We've seen outages like this happen before. Amazon itself experienced

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01:35:09,439 --> 01:35:12,240
Speaker 28: outages in twenty twenty three and twenty twenty one. Of course,

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01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:15,280
Speaker 28: last year, we also remember the crowd Strike outage that

1893
01:35:15,400 --> 01:35:17,880
Speaker 28: was a cybersecurity firm that chipped a faulty bit of

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01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:21,680
Speaker 28: code that knocks millions of computers around the world offline.

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01:35:22,160 --> 01:35:25,840
Speaker 28: So this is unfortunate, It is frustrating for many, but

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01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:29,160
Speaker 28: it is pretty normal. It's not unusual by any stretch

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01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:31,759
Speaker 28: of the imagination. Again, it goes back to that idea

1898
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:34,600
Speaker 28: that we've centralized a lot of this power in the

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01:35:34,680 --> 01:35:37,519
Speaker 28: cloud computing space into just the hands of a handful

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01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:40,599
Speaker 28: of companies, right, just a few of them, and when

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01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:43,200
Speaker 28: one of them experiences problems, that's going to have major

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01:35:43,240 --> 01:35:43,839
Speaker 28: ripple effects.

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Speaker 1: Now, is this like an opportunity for other companies to

1904
01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:49,760
Speaker 1: host servers and do all that sort of thing, So

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01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:53,519
Speaker 1: you know, kind of I guess spread out the misery

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01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:54,280
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit.

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Speaker 28: Yeah, diversify I think is probably the worst yes security

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01:36:01,080 --> 01:36:03,760
Speaker 28: from cybersecurity experts over the next few days. But yeah,

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01:36:04,040 --> 01:36:06,439
Speaker 28: this idea that instead of, you know, to go back

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01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:09,000
Speaker 28: to that cafe example that we were talking about. Instead

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Speaker 28: of putting all your eggs into the AWS basket, maybe

1912
01:36:12,439 --> 01:36:15,240
Speaker 28: now is an opportunity to think about diversifying that a

1913
01:36:15,280 --> 01:36:17,760
Speaker 28: little bit, putting a couple eggs into Google's basket, maybe

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01:36:17,800 --> 01:36:21,320
Speaker 28: a couple eggs into a smaller third parties basket, just

1915
01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:24,760
Speaker 28: to guard against this, because again, you know, we talk

1916
01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:27,160
Speaker 28: a lot today, or we've spoken a lot today about

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01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:29,960
Speaker 28: what the individual can do. The unfortunate answer is not

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01:36:30,120 --> 01:36:32,800
Speaker 28: a ton. Outside of that, if you are a small

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01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:35,559
Speaker 28: business owner, it's you know, maybe just spread the wealth

1920
01:36:35,720 --> 01:36:38,400
Speaker 28: a little bit to make sure that if one goes down,

1921
01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:40,320
Speaker 28: you know, your whole business doesn't collapse.

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Speaker 2: All right with that, Mike, we will let you go, buddy,

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01:36:42,720 --> 01:36:46,120
Speaker 2: Thanks so much, of course, guys, take care. I am

1924
01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:51,920
Speaker 2: Mike Debuski from ABC Rock and other related well cyber news.

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01:36:53,920 --> 01:36:59,160
Speaker 2: This happened in Indy, Indianapolis based bankruptcy. Your attorney, Mark S.

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01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:03,920
Speaker 2: Zuckerberg is suing Meta, the company that Mark E. Zuckerberg owns,

1927
01:37:04,120 --> 01:37:10,080
Speaker 2: because the because his this guy's an attorney, his Facebook

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01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:11,840
Speaker 2: page keeps getting shut down.

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Speaker 1: You're like, your name is Mark Zuckerberg you suck.

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Speaker 2: Right, it's not funny, says the lawyer. Metta has been

1931
01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:25,400
Speaker 2: accused him of impersonating a celebrity and using a false name,

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01:37:26,160 --> 01:37:30,280
Speaker 2: says says mister Zuckerberg, a name that I've had way

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Speaker 2: longer than Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That's right, I had it first. That's hilarious. It's funny

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Speaker 1: if you're not him.

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Speaker 2: Correct, I'm uh. I'd rather not make a fight with him,

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Speaker 2: But I don't know how to make the stop. It's

1938
01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:47,479
Speaker 2: not right and they need to stop it, and so

1939
01:37:47,680 --> 01:37:51,280
Speaker 2: they have. The meta is now confirmed after a lot

1940
01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:54,200
Speaker 2: of going back and forth at Zuckerberger's account is back

1941
01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:57,040
Speaker 2: up after being disabled in error.

1942
01:37:58,240 --> 01:38:01,600
Speaker 1: Because you know, I'm how many tens of thousands of

1943
01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:05,760
Speaker 1: employees are there right in at Facebook, And I'm sure

1944
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:09,080
Speaker 1: at some point it comes up like there's this joker

1945
01:38:09,240 --> 01:38:13,840
Speaker 1: think he's trying to do and boom bumping him off there.

1946
01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:16,240
Speaker 1: And then it gets fixed and someone else sees it

1947
01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:17,479
Speaker 1: and he take it off.

1948
01:38:18,240 --> 01:38:25,960
Speaker 2: Didn't he used to be Abe Lincoln? Uh and rock

1949
01:38:27,280 --> 01:38:30,519
Speaker 2: and uh and again. Well, the cyber news just keeps

1950
01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:36,519
Speaker 2: on coming. This happened in Aurora, Colorado. This guy's a

1951
01:38:36,760 --> 01:38:42,840
Speaker 2: credit card or credit card fraud suspect and his name

1952
01:38:43,760 --> 01:38:55,160
Speaker 2: Alec Bogus. Uh So, anyways, mister Bogus was kind of

1953
01:38:55,479 --> 01:38:59,240
Speaker 2: he was on the lamb from law enforcement when he

1954
01:38:59,439 --> 01:39:06,120
Speaker 2: was approaching at the Indian Hot Springs Resort in Idaho Springs, Colorado.

1955
01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:10,640
Speaker 2: According to a new source, Bogus, who had announced who

1956
01:39:10,680 --> 01:39:14,840
Speaker 2: had the outstanding felony warrant, was just exiting the mud

1957
01:39:14,920 --> 01:39:18,240
Speaker 2: bat there wearing only a speedo. When the cops showed up,

1958
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:22,800
Speaker 2: he ran up a wood a wooded mountain side and

1959
01:39:22,920 --> 01:39:25,040
Speaker 2: tried to hide in a shed, but was recovered a

1960
01:39:25,120 --> 01:39:31,640
Speaker 2: short time later, still covered in mud. I would just

1961
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:34,640
Speaker 2: you know, you you ever take one of those mudbaso

1962
01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:36,240
Speaker 2: we Deb and I did.

1963
01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:40,280
Speaker 1: That, one of those like uh kind of natury ones. Yeah,

1964
01:39:41,160 --> 01:39:41,600
Speaker 1: well I was.

1965
01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:45,479
Speaker 2: It wasn't real, you know, not all that new agey stuff.

1966
01:39:45,520 --> 01:39:48,160
Speaker 2: But Deb and I did it on in California one

1967
01:39:48,240 --> 01:39:48,840
Speaker 2: time or out there.

1968
01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:49,920
Speaker 1: Did you get rub the mud?

1969
01:39:51,160 --> 01:39:51,280
Speaker 10: Oh?

1970
01:39:51,360 --> 01:39:53,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, what you get a little you're in kind of

1971
01:39:53,560 --> 01:39:54,800
Speaker 2: like a sarcophagus.

1972
01:39:55,160 --> 01:39:56,040
Speaker 5: It's weird, man.

1973
01:39:56,280 --> 01:39:59,920
Speaker 1: Oh boy, sign me up hot hot mud in a

1974
01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:03,639
Speaker 1: sarcophagus with death right. She had her own.

1975
01:40:03,960 --> 01:40:08,679
Speaker 2: Oh okay, we had sidewiyside graves or something.

1976
01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:13,200
Speaker 1: This it feels like to be buried next to each other.

1977
01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:15,240
Speaker 2: I would I would not like to be on the

1978
01:40:15,320 --> 01:40:17,240
Speaker 2: run from the law though having.

1979
01:40:17,120 --> 01:40:20,479
Speaker 1: Exited that, yeah, it's kind of sticky.

1980
01:40:20,560 --> 01:40:22,800
Speaker 2: And yeah, at least he had a speed one.

1981
01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:27,360
Speaker 1: I was naked. We really get the full experience. That's

1982
01:40:27,520 --> 01:40:30,120
Speaker 1: my man, right, That's what I mean when short.

1983
01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:31,880
Speaker 2: Changing this mother Nature's son.

1984
01:40:32,200 --> 01:40:32,360
Speaker 4: Right.

1985
01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:35,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I said I need more right here.

1986
01:40:35,800 --> 01:40:38,320
Speaker 2: I'll leave you with that thought in mind. Oh God,

1987
01:40:38,600 --> 01:40:40,960
Speaker 2: as we had the traffic and weather, what is going on?