1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: It's Nightside with Dan Ray on w BZY, Boston's news radio. 2 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 2: Welcome back everyone as we start the nine o'clock hour. 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Dan Watkins. Delighted to welcome to 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: the Nightside Microphones. I believe for the first time former 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 2: Republican Senator from the great state of New Hampshire, John E. Sonunhu. 6 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: I think everybody is familiar with John Sonuna, the former governor. 7 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 2: John Sounhu's dad also very familiar with his brother, the 8 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:37,639 Speaker 2: former governor, the most recent governor before Kelly A. Art Our, 9 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 2: Chris Sonunu, who's been a great friend of this program 10 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: for many, many years. And I'd like to welcome former 11 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: Senator Sonunu to the night to the Nightside Microphones. Welcome sir. 12 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 2: How are you tonight? 13 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: I'm doing great, Dan, Thank you very much. I guess 14 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: this it's part where I say long time listener, first 15 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: time color Well, you know we can. 16 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: Give you round of applause as a first time. I 17 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 2: guess the first time. Yes, that's from our digital studio audience. 18 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: That sounds like a sound effect left over from the 19 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: Larry Glick Show. 20 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 2: To me, well, most of the Larry Glick sound effects 21 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: cannot be used if you get my drift in this era. 22 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: I I'm dating myself. I used to listen to Larry 23 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 1: Click in the seventies. You know, he'd yeah, I come 24 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: on after after Celtics games. I think he had the 25 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: Celtics back then, Well. 26 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,199 Speaker 2: We had the Bruins, because when I started. 27 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: That's probably Bruins. 28 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I remember one night I started. I was 29 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: in law school and I was a Saturday night host, 30 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 2: and somehow I was able to get Ronald Reagan. Then 31 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 2: he was the governor of California, and the Bruins were 32 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: playing the Flyers, and there was a brawl halfway through 33 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: the game, so the game instead of finishing at ten o'clock, 34 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 2: it was going to go till ten thirty. And once 35 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 2: Governor Reagan called in, he and I chatted for half 36 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 2: an hour because I didn't want to lose him. Was afraid, 37 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: you know, he might not call back. And we talked 38 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: about his days as a baseball broadcaster at w h 39 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: O in Des Moines, Iowa, when he would like do 40 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: a ticker tape thing on baseball games. In those days, 41 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: they really didn't even have radio, uh in you know, 42 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 2: they'd have radio in Chicago. But they would get Hi'd 43 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 2: get a ticker and they'd say, you know, so and 44 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 2: so was up you know, uh uh, you know Gabby 45 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 2: Hartnet or something and the first pitch is a ball. 46 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: And as he was like doing a version of play 47 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 2: by play, Yeah, so man had happened. That's true, but 48 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 2: that that did happen. And with Larry, they Larry Click 49 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: used to shoot people off the air when we get callers. 50 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 2: Now we have them walk the plank. It's a gentler 51 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 2: way to say goodbye to the particularly truculent callers. To 52 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 2: be honest with you, but let's let's talk about it 53 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 2: with great to have you as well as they say. 54 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 2: We had Scott Brown last week, and I mentioned I 55 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: believe this is the first time the two former United 56 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 2: States senators vying in a primary of either party for 57 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 2: the nomination. This is a historic event coming up, and 58 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 2: I'm sure that both of you are are hoping to 59 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 2: win h and I'm sure it's going to be an 60 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 2: interesting race. And it also is a seat that the 61 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 2: Republican Party has a pretty good chance of picking up. 62 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 2: And that has to be a consideration of both you 63 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 2: and former Senator Brown. 64 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: Well, I think it's important, right, It's important in New Hampshire. 65 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the polling that's been done quite 66 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: frankly shows me even in this race already before I 67 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: even got into it. I think it's it's a much 68 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: much tougher slog for Scott, but it's one we need 69 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,119 Speaker 1: to win it as Republicans hold a Republican majority. More importantly, though, 70 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: for New Hampshire, you know, we want some one who 71 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: really reflects the state. Chris Bappis, who's likely to be 72 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: my opponent in the general election, is sort of a 73 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: party think event right. When Nancy Pelosi was Speaker two 74 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty two out of two hundred twenty three votes, 75 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: Chris papp has voted with her. And you know, if 76 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: you ask someone in New Hampshire, does I really reflect 77 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: what we want in New Hampshire from representation in Washington, 78 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: of course it's no. So you know, my experience in 79 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: Congress was just standing up for New Hampshire every day. 80 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: That would be my priority in the Senate. You know, 81 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 1: we're a pretty independent minded state limited government. We want 82 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: local control for our cities and towns. Let parents make 83 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: good decisions about education, keep taxes low, obviously we're a 84 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: low tax state. So you know, these are sort of 85 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 1: themes and priorities that are important to families, small businesses 86 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: in New Hampshire. And they're the kind of issues that 87 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: I've carried with me in my work, my whole life. 88 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 2: I guess my question would be, and this is a 89 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 2: question to you, but it could also be a question 90 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: of Scott Brown, what's happened New Hampshire. I mean, I 91 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 2: remember when your dad was governor, and I remember when 92 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 2: Warren Rudman was a senator there and Gordon Humphrey was 93 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 2: a senator, and even go back further than that, there 94 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 2: was a period of time in the nineteen seventies when 95 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 2: the entire congressional delegation was Republican. Now the entire congressional 96 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 2: delegation in New Hampshire two senators, two members of Congress, 97 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 2: all Democratic. It certainly would behoove the voters of New 98 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: Hampshire have some Republican representation in Washington, d C. How 99 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 2: big of an issue will that be do you think 100 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 2: with voters? 101 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: I think it will be important. I mean, you know, 102 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: you make a good point a couple of observations. Right 103 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: to be sure, if we have a Republican president, we 104 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: have a Republican Congress. If you really want to have 105 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: a strong advocate in Washington, it's good for the state 106 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: to have a Republican voice in Washington, somebody who can 107 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: walk into the Oval Office and work with the President 108 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: to keep taxes low, to do the right thing and 109 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: keeping a border secure, keep sentinel from coming into states 110 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: like New Hampshire, where in the past it's been a 111 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: real issue. You know, work on policies that keep things affordable, 112 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: keep inflation low so we don't have to go back 113 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: to that eight to nine percent inflation we saw SAE 114 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: eighteen months ago. At the same time, though, New Hampshire's 115 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: always had a strong two party system, if you will. 116 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: We had Democrat governors in the sixties, Democrat governors in 117 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: the seventies, parts of alternating with Republicans, etc. We had 118 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: Democrat members in the nineteen sixties and seventies, so there's 119 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: always been that strong two party system. Right now, we 120 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: have a Republican governor, we have a Republican state Senate, 121 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: in a Republican House, and four out of the five 122 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: executive councilors are Republican. But as you point out, it's 123 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: been a decade since we had that Republican voice in Washington. 124 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: And again that's one of the reasons I thought it 125 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: was very important to run because I know this is 126 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: a race I can and will win, and it will 127 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: give New Hampshire that strong advocate that it deserves and 128 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: that can be effective from day one. 129 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 2: What do you think is happening to the Democratic Party 130 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 2: if not in New Hampshire. Nationally you have a race 131 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 2: now in New York City. We're an avowed socialist. I 132 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 2: would argue Marxist is leaving the race from mayor in 133 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 2: New York City. And I think that Orondami is likely 134 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 2: to become the poster figurehead of the national Democratic Party 135 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 2: because there's really no national leader of the Democratic Party 136 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 2: right now. What's going on with the Democratic Party? And 137 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 2: can someone like Chris Pappus or any New Hampshire Democrat 138 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 2: identify with national leadership like Mundami. 139 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 1: Well, they are identifying with him, you know, because that's 140 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: what they've chosen to do. I mean, you look at 141 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: the fact that Democrats almost across the board have have 142 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: endorsed Mam Dammy and and it's unfortunate. Look, it's I'm 143 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: not a Democrat So you know, I don't think many 144 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: people really want to hear me, assess and analyze the 145 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: Democrat Party. But I think what's happened is with the 146 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: sale of President Biden. I mean the serious mistake that 147 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: he and his advisors made and pushing him to run 148 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: even though he really wasn't competent to stand for reelection, 149 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: the sort of mess that was made out of Kamba 150 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: Harris's election, It gets created that leadership vacuum that you described, 151 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: and into that vacuum has stepped sort of the extreme 152 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: left of the party, whether it's Bernie Sanders or Mandani 153 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: or AOC, and they're pushing an already liberal leadership Chuck Schumer, 154 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: Kim Jeffries, someone like Chris Pappis in New Hampshire even 155 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: further left because those liberal Democrats a Schumer Jeffries a papist, 156 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: or they're afraid of being primary, they're afraid of being 157 00:09:55,280 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: undercut by the vocal popularity of that hard left within 158 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: their own party. So that creates a lot of chaos. 159 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 2: But look in the. 160 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: Unfortunately for New Hampshire, it means that we suffer because 161 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: there's a total vacuum of good leadership, good representation for 162 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: our state in Washington, and what I'm trying to do 163 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: is step up and give our state an effective voice, 164 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: something who's thoughtful, who's focused on what New Hampshire needs 165 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: in terms of our small business economy, in terms of 166 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: empowering families and our state and local government. So I'm 167 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: excited about that. I'm excited about that race. And you know, 168 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: it's it's unfortunate that the that in this day and age, 169 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: uh kind of an about socialist who you know, wants 170 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: to take over grocery stores, legalized prostitution and and things 171 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: you can give away free housing without a costing billion 172 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: is at the driver's seat at the Democratic Party. 173 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 2: My guest is a former New Hampshire Republican Senator John EASONUNU. 174 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 2: I'm using John e to distinguish you from your dad again, 175 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 2: who I've known for many, many years, and Chris who, 176 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 2: by the way, you mentioned fentanyl. I remember having conversations 177 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 2: with your brother when he was governor, and one of 178 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 2: the problems that you folks in New Hampshire had was 179 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 2: that a lot of that fentanyl was coming into New 180 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 2: Hampshire from cities on the southern border of New Hampshire, 181 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 2: ar and specifically. Chris made that point on this program, 182 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 2: and I'm sure that's something that is important to you. 183 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 2: We got to take a quick break. When come back, 184 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 2: I want to talk to you a little bit about 185 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 2: President Trump. It's a different Republican Party today than when 186 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 2: you were United States Senator from two thousand and three 187 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 2: to January two thousand and nine, or elected in two 188 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: thousand and two and suffered a defeat in two thousand 189 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: and eight, and since then a lot has changed in 190 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 2: the Republican Party. Want to talk to you about the 191 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 2: party that you are now looking to lead in the 192 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 2: state of New Hampshire. We'll be back on nice side 193 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,719 Speaker 2: with my guest, former Republican Senator from New Hampshire. He 194 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 2: is running in the Republican primary to become the next 195 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 2: Senator from New Hampshire to replace Jean Shaheen, someone who 196 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 2: he defeated in two thousand and two and who he 197 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 2: lost to in two thousand and eight, and he hopes 198 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 2: to come back and and and phill what he considers 199 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 2: to be a seat that he would I've heard it 200 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 2: referred to as the Sununu seat. So I don't think 201 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 2: Kennedy seat, you. 202 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: Know, I don't want a reporter. Reporter said something like, 203 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 1: you know, trying to win your seat back, and it 204 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: isn't my seat. No, I know that the people in Hampshire. No, 205 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: I just but yeah, you know, I don't want anyone 206 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: to take the lightheartedness. Seriously, nothing is owed to me. 207 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: This is about public service and I'm not a career politician, 208 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: and it's all about sort of taking an opportunity that's 209 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: right for New Hampshire and trying to do the right thing. 210 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 2: I know you were just kidding, well talk well, it 211 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 2: was just it was ironic, as I understand that that 212 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 2: you know they talk about. I started down that path 213 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 2: and I said, this is not a good path. We'll 214 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 2: take a break. My guest, this is a former Republican 215 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 2: Senator from New Hampshire, Johnson, who he hopes to be 216 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 2: the future Republican Senator from the great state of New Hampshire. 217 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 2: Back on nights Side right after this, It's Night Side 218 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 2: with Dan Ray. 219 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: Boston's news Radio. 220 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 2: So let me go to a question that I'm sure 221 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 2: you've talked about, you've thought about when you left. When 222 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 2: when you left office in two thousand and eight, President 223 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 2: Obama was coming into the White House Donald Trump didn't 224 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: appear really on the political scene until several years later. 225 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 2: He now is the titular ahead of the Republican Party. 226 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 2: Your opponent, Scott Brown served in his administration. How comfortable 227 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 2: will you be as a Senator for New Hampshire working 228 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 2: with at least for a couple of years with President 229 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 2: Donald Trump for a couple of years because I do 230 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 2: not believe the theory that he wants to try to 231 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 2: run a third term. I read the Constitution pretty carefully. 232 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 2: That's really not a possibility in my mind, and I'm 233 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 2: sure it's not in years either. 234 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: Well, the short answer is very comfortable. I mean, look, 235 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: I'm comfortable and have been working with presidents in the past, 236 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: fighting for what's in New Hampshire's interest, fighting for what's 237 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: right for our state and our economy. President Trump would 238 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: be no exception. We've got a lot of success to 239 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: build on, you know, passing legislation to keep tax as 240 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: low as he's done, and absolutely work with him to 241 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: keep those taxes low. I think the fact that he's 242 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: been able to and that the chaos, the tragedy that 243 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: we saw on our borders eighteen months ago with thousands 244 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: of people coming across the border illegally tragic circumstances. No 245 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: one wanted to see that kind of government failure, that 246 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: kind of tragedy in chaos. That's been stopped, and I 247 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: hope we never never go back to the chaos we 248 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: saw eighteen months ago. Inflations come down, So continue to 249 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: work with President Trump to keep inflation low, work on 250 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: affordability of healthcare, energy, housing. So, I mean, I'm very 251 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: comfortable in that role, and I know that there's no 252 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: one that can be as effective as quickly in that 253 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: role as I can. 254 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 2: Do you think he will endorse in a race like 255 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 2: this again, I'm not because has never been. 256 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: Well, you know, we'll see. I think I'm trying to guess, Uh, 257 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: what President Trump is is going to do is you know, 258 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: a full Errand I think he wants to win this seat. 259 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: He knows if we flip this seat will hold the 260 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: Republican majority in the Senate. That's extremely important to him 261 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: and and I think that will will weigh very heavily. 262 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: I think he'll also want someone who has I just 263 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: described you know, we'll speak up, will be effective and 264 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: and so you know, we'll see what he does. I 265 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: haven't spoken to him to kind of look forward to 266 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: uh a chance to speak with him, and and then 267 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: we'll see what what he chooses to do. But I 268 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: think regardless, I've you know, run in many tough primaries before. 269 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: I ran against an incumbent Republican in two thousand and two, 270 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 1: frankly in order to make sure that we held that 271 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: seat in two thousand and two, and we did. I 272 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 1: was I was in an eight person primary in my 273 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: very first race for kngary years ago, and it was 274 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: sort of a tough Republican primary. I went it with 275 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: six hundred and sixteen votes. But you know, I've always 276 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: enjoyed my campaigns. 277 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 2: You mean by a Martin You mean by a margin 278 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 2: of six hundred and sixteen Yeah. 279 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, yeah, I mean yeah, it was eight people 280 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: at the six hundred and sixteen Vogue margin. I've always 281 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: enjoyed my campaigns, and I I've certainly enjoyed this one 282 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: so far, and I expect to enjoy it. How can 283 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 1: how can folks, yeah, looking. 284 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 2: Forward, most most importantly, how can folks get in touch 285 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 2: with your campaign? I know that you have just recently announced. 286 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 2: I assume you have a website that we can direct 287 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 2: people to. 288 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: Sure we're we're well into a day six sons Whenday. 289 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 1: The website is new Senator dot com. All one word 290 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: New Senator dot com and uh, you know you can 291 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: uh find me on x at at snow New Senator 292 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: and yeah, I would love to have people go on 293 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: the website. Obviously there's a little bit of background. It's 294 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: still relatively new, but our announcement video ways that they 295 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: can get in touch and volunteer on the campaign. Now 296 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: we we rolled out of just a few endorsements, but 297 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 1: basically party activists across the spectrum across the state are 298 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: supporting me because they know how effective I'll be, they 299 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: know I'll win. Of Senate President Sharon Carson Steve Stepanek, 300 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: who who led uh was the head of the Trump 301 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: campaign in New Hampshire in twenty twenty four, that both 302 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: endorsed me are three of the four Republican executive counselors 303 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: to former governors whose name is not not Sinunu Governor 304 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: Craig Benson and former Governor Chuck greg And State Senator 305 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: Dan Innies has offered his support. Dan was a candidate 306 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: in this race and decided to suspend and endorse me, 307 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: which I'm very grateful for so, you know, great support 308 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: all across the Republican spectrum, some of the really strong 309 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: organizers of the Trump campaign from twenty twenty four, and 310 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: my campaigns have always been countertown, person to person, grassroots. 311 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: That's the way you run and that's the way I'll 312 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: always have it. 313 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 2: Well, I did ask Scott Brown the other night, so 314 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 2: I'm going to ask you if as this campaign develops, 315 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 2: and the primary election is not until next September, if 316 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 2: I'm correct, so it's going to be along road at 317 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 2: some point, I'd love to have you and Scott Brown 318 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 2: do something with me here on night side. Maybe we'll 319 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 2: even do something in a studio where all be in 320 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 2: the same room. I hope you'd be willing to consider 321 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 2: that as well as this campaign goes on. 322 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: Yes, it'll be a long campaign. I mean, obviously we'll 323 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: see what kind of events, formats, debates are put together 324 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: for us, but I'm sure there'll be a good number. 325 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: And it's hard to think of a better moderator than. 326 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 2: You, Dan. 327 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: But you point out as I was, I was shaking 328 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: hands in Rochester, New Hampshire today and uh, you know what, 329 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: I pointed out that the election isn't for another year. 330 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: I think they sort of appreciate it that I was 331 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: coming by early, but they probably also thought it was 332 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: a little crazy to be campaigning a full year before 333 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: the election. But this is important and it's worth it. 334 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 2: I think that that's that is critical. I really do. 335 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 2: I think that let people take the measure, get out there, 336 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 2: meet as many people, and as they say, we would 337 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 2: even consider, uh, maybe bringing the show up to New Hampshire. 338 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 2: Would be very difficult to invite you and Scott to 339 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 2: come uh and uh and and sit in a studio 340 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 2: in Massachusetts. That probably would be pretty inappropriate. But we'd 341 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 2: love to have a situation where we where we could 342 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 2: have a great conversation and it would be a great 343 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 2: conversation with you and Scott. So we'll we'll keep that 344 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 2: in abeyance for now, but in the meantime, best of luck. 345 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 2: Thanks so much. The website is sunu senator dot com. 346 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 2: We will be in touch. Thank you very much, Senator. 347 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: Thanks Dan, I have a great night, too great to 348 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: be with you. 349 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 2: All right, So what I'd like to do, and it's 350 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 2: always up to my audience. You've had a chance to 351 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 2: hear uh. Former Republican Senator from New Hampshire, John so 352 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 2: New I'm going to open up the phone lines during 353 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 2: the newscast here. I'd love to get your thoughts UH 354 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 2: on that race. UH. It is an unprecedented race, having 355 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 2: two to the best of my knowledge, and I did 356 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 2: my research, and I believe I'm right that this is 357 00:21:55,640 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 2: an unprecedented situation. I have two former United States Scott 358 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 2: Brown and John Sanunu, vying for the nomination UH to 359 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 2: have the right to run it next November on the ballot. 360 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 2: SO six one seven, two, five four ten thirty six 361 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 2: one seven, nine three one ten thirty. We will also 362 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 2: endeavor to have Congressman Pappus on. At some point, we 363 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 2: will be feared to all sides, not just both sides, 364 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 2: to all sides as this rate race evolves, as well 365 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 2: as of course racist in Massachusetts. Feel free to weigh in. 366 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,479 Speaker 2: Let let's get your impression, your thoughts six one, seven, two, five, 367 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 2: four ten thirty six one seven nine three one ten thirty. 368 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 2: Hope you enjoyed the conversation with former Senator Sonunu. Now 369 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 2: it's your turn back on nightside right after the news 370 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 2: a little bit late, be right back on night side. 371 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 2: It's night side with Dan Ray on WBS Boston's news Radio. Okay, 372 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 2: I would really like to get We only have about 373 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 2: twenty minutes here until ten o'clock. I'd like to hear 374 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 2: from as many of you as possible. Uh. If you 375 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 2: live in New Hampshire, great, but wherever. This is a 376 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 2: race that the Republicans have a legitimate chance to pick 377 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 2: up a Democratic seat. As I alluded to when I 378 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 2: talk with former Senator Sununu, New Hampshire has a rich 379 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 2: history of having Democrats and Republicans in Congress, and they 380 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 2: have always Democrats and Republicans looked after the interest of 381 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 2: their New Hampshire voters, the New Hampshire residents at the 382 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 2: same time. The same time, not having a balance within 383 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 2: their delegation can be difficult if you have all the 384 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 2: members of the delegation who are Democratic right now and 385 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 2: a Republican president kind of tough to get access, particularly 386 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 2: to this president that is not going to change until 387 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. There will be the opportunity for change 388 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 2: because the incumbent Democrat, Jean Sheahan, has decided not to 389 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 2: stand for reelection, which has opened up that seat as 390 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 2: a real possibility. And two former Senators Scott Brown, who 391 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 2: represented Massachusetts, who now lives in New Hampshire and has 392 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 2: New Hampshire roots, and John Sonunu, who is a member 393 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 2: of the Senunu family. Two members of his family, his 394 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 2: dad and his brother, served as governor of New Hampshire 395 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 2: most recently. Chris Sonunu and John E. Sonunu was the 396 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 2: United States Senator as well as a member of Congress 397 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 2: member of the House of Representatives from nineteen ninety six 398 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 2: to two thousand and two, and then he served one 399 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 2: term as the US Senator. So I think it's a 400 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 2: fascinating race, and I'd love to hear from you, whether 401 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 2: you live in New Hampshire or outside the state. We 402 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 2: all know that every year only about a third of 403 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 2: the Senate is up for reelection, and many of those 404 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 2: seats are filled by incumbents. It's very tough to tip 405 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:15,479 Speaker 2: an incumbent in the US Senate. So there are seats 406 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 2: that will be in play, but very few, very few, 407 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 2: uh and New Hampshire is clearly one of those states. 408 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 2: So if the Republicans hope to control the Senate, and 409 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 2: of course controlling the Senate is important, particularly if the 410 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 2: Democrats decide they would like to impeach Donald Trump for 411 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 2: different reasons, legitimate or otherwise. The control of the Senate 412 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 2: by the Republicans will will make that less likely. So 413 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 2: the numbers are here six one, seven, two, five, four 414 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 2: ten thirty uh six one seven, nine three ten thirty. 415 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 2: I would love to hear from you if you happen 416 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 2: to be a Scott Brown supporter or a John Sinunu 417 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 2: supporter John east Sonunu again to distinguish between the former 418 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 2: governor and the current candidate for the US Senate. Again, 419 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 2: I get excited about this race because it is a 420 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 2: race that has two former United States Senators vying for 421 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 2: a nomination that's never happened before. To the best of 422 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 2: my knowledge, US senators were always, historically throughout the nineteenth 423 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 2: century and into the twentieth century, appointed by state legislators 424 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 2: state legislatures. I should say, only around the time of 425 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 2: World War One did the election of US senators fall 426 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 2: to the people in states. And so there haven't been 427 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 2: There's only about a history of a little over one 428 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 2: hundred years of elections of United States senators. Many people 429 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 2: don't realize that, but even with one hundred years, there's 430 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 2: never been and I have done some due diligence on this. 431 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 2: If someone wants to correct me and say, oh, yeah, 432 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 2: Missouri in nineteen thirty, no to have an incumbent senator 433 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 2: decide she's not gonna run, which opens it up, opens 434 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 2: the field right up, and you have Scott Brown and 435 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,479 Speaker 2: John Sinunu. They'll have to fight it out. Now. They 436 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 2: have to be careful because they one of them will survive, 437 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 2: and if they turn it into a tough contest, nasty contest, 438 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 2: that could endure to the benefit of the Democrat Chris Pappus, 439 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 2: who's currently a congressman in the first district and apparently 440 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 2: the odds on favorite to be the Democratic nominee. So 441 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna open up these lines. Uh, you're my 442 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 2: political analysts. I'd love to get your take. Six one seven, 443 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 2: two four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one 444 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 2: ten thirty. I'll be right back after a couple commercials. 445 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 2: Let's let's hear from my audience. You do not you 446 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 2: do not need to hear from me anymore. I've said 447 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 2: my piece. I want to hear from you again. This 448 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 2: is not the Dan Ray Show. This is Nightside with 449 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 2: Dan Ray, and the audience is a very important part 450 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 2: of this program. Back on Nightside after this, You're on 451 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 2: Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news Radio. Well, 452 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 2: it looks like no one wants to talk politics, So okay, 453 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 2: that's fine. You don't like politics, we'll move on. Simple 454 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 2: as that. I am. I don't understand that, but that's fine. 455 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 2: I think it's an interesting, exciting race, and we'll move on. 456 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 2: I intend at ten o'clock to open up a conversation 457 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 2: about purchasing products on the Internet. Now. I don't know 458 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 2: how many of you spend any time during the year 459 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 2: on the Internet and buying products on the Internet, but 460 00:28:55,640 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 2: like most people, I have occasionally. I am not someone 461 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 2: There are people who buy everything on the internet these days. 462 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 2: They buy their clothes, they buy their food, they buy 463 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 2: their pet supplies. They basically live on the internet. That's 464 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 2: not me, but I have, over time bought a lot 465 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 2: of things on the Internet. But one of the things 466 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 2: I learned a couple of weeks ago is that there's 467 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 2: a mistake that I made that I will admit to 468 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 2: that I would like to give you the benefit of 469 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 2: that mistake. And it's a pretty simple mistake that I made, 470 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 2: but it has driven me crazy. For the last two weeks. 471 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 2: So I saw an item advertised on television, like most 472 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 2: of you have seen items advertised on television, and I 473 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 2: decided to go to the website. And I didn't do 474 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 2: what I would consider to be my due diligence, and 475 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 2: I went ahead with my credit card and ordered the item. 476 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 2: I never imagined that the item that I had ordered 477 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 2: would come to me from China. There was nothing at 478 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 2: all on the website which indicated that the item was 479 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 2: coming from a foreign country. Now, this is not a 480 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 2: criticism of China, but this is a criticism of my 481 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:41,479 Speaker 2: own inability to do my due diligence. I have learned 482 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 2: that in the future, I will never order something on 483 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 2: the internet simply through the internet, I will always find 484 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 2: a phone number. So the reason I say that is 485 00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 2: I ordered the item, and they gave me an approximate 486 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 2: delivery date. And the delivery date came, and I thought 487 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 2: to myself. Originally I thought, well, you know, I might 488 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 2: get this a little earlier, a couple of days earlier. No, 489 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 2: I didn't get it a couple of days earlier. But 490 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 2: when I clicked on the item, I got more solicitations 491 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 2: from the company. And when I clicked on the item, 492 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 2: I tried to track it, and all I was looking 493 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 2: at was Chinese characters. Now might not, in my surprise you, 494 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 2: I don't think it will. I don't read Chinese. I'm 495 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 2: not sure what version of the Chinese language was being used, 496 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 2: but it was indecipherable to me, so I didn't know 497 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 2: what it meant. Over time, though, as I periodically went 498 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 2: back and checked this item out, I found out that 499 00:31:54,440 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 2: there actually was some English associated with it, and in 500 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 2: time I had to look at the information in English, 501 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 2: so it said arrived. Now again, these are prior to 502 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 2: Chinese characters. Okay, I don't know if it was Manchurian. 503 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 2: I have no idea arrived at export center, arrived at 504 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 2: Waygan district of warehouse. Didn't tell me where departed from 505 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 2: export center, so I know it was at the export center. 506 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 2: I had no idea where that export center was. I 507 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 2: assume it was in China. And then I got cargo 508 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 2: leaves EC Warehouse, which I guess means export center warehouse. 509 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 2: I guess arrived at origin port and I'm seeing HKG, 510 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 2: so I'm thinking, well, maybe this is Hong Kong, but 511 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 2: it doesn't tell me customs released from origin port. This 512 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 2: is an item that costs like about forty nine dollars. Okay, 513 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 2: So there's a lot of information here, none of which 514 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 2: was any was very helpful. A parted from original country. Okay. 515 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 2: Then I see something that says JFK arride at this 516 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 2: the nation country. Now I'm thinking this is getting good. 517 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 2: It's at JFK airport. Then custom clearance completed, Clarence Agency 518 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 2: picked hand over the local carrier. Doesn't tell me who 519 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 2: the local carrier is. Then a few days ago, Weymouth 520 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 2: Mass parcel received but with incorrect address. Note, please contact 521 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 2: with customer service directly and scheduled delivery. I have no 522 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 2: idea who they're talking about. So I have a couple 523 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 2: of codes which mean nothing to me JDW and then 524 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 2: about fourteen numbers ending in three nine nine doesn't matter, 525 00:33:54,720 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 2: but it says undeliverable. Then I receive even more confusing information. 526 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 2: I guess I would have to call it confusing information. 527 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 2: It tells me that parcel received with incorrect address. Oh, 528 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 2: I know what address I typed in and I know 529 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,760 Speaker 2: it is the right address. NOE, please contact with customer 530 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,720 Speaker 2: service directly and scheduled delivery. What customer service. There's no number. 531 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 2: So I received all of this information with an order number. 532 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 2: I have no idea what that means. And again some 533 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,800 Speaker 2: number that says JDW. I have no idea what JDW 534 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 2: stands for. I am totally confused. And the fact that 535 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 2: it says undeliverable. Then I got something that said item delivered. No, 536 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 2: it wasn't delivered. It wasn't delivered at least to my address. 537 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:04,720 Speaker 2: And then after that another item said undeliverable incorrect address. 538 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 2: So assuming that this company is not just pulling my chain, 539 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 2: I'm not going to identify the company. It doesn't matter. 540 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 2: This for me was a disaster because what did I 541 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 2: have to do next? I had to go ahead and cancel. 542 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 2: Contacted my credit card company, who were quite cooperative. I 543 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 2: explained everything to them as best I could. Because the 544 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:35,240 Speaker 2: information it's like nothing I've ever seen. It was conflicting information, 545 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:40,320 Speaker 2: it was confusing information. Here's my bottom line. My bottom 546 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,760 Speaker 2: line is when the next time I go on thet 547 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 2: the internet, and I did go on the Internet subsequent 548 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 2: to this to buy something, I always will call. And 549 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 2: when I call, I want to know two things. Where 550 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 2: is this company located? And Where is the product that 551 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 2: this company is sending me, where is that coming from, 552 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 2: and if it's coming from anywhere out of the country, 553 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 2: out of the United States of America, I'm not interested. 554 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 2: I also want to have always a phone that I 555 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 2: can call because this particular company, when I looked at 556 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 2: my visa account, what it said was Sheridan Wyoming. Now, 557 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 2: I don't know how many people speak Mandarin or shared around, 558 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 2: but I don't think there's a lot. Bottom line is 559 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,839 Speaker 2: that's the lesson I learned. When we come back, I'd 560 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 2: like to know if you've had a similar experience and 561 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 2: how did you handle it. As of today, my account 562 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:48,439 Speaker 2: has been replenished the forty nine dollars, which is good 563 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 2: for me, not good for the company. Still haven't received 564 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 2: the product, have no idea where it is because they 565 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 2: told me it's undeliverable with the wrong address. I've given up. 566 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 2: I love to hear your experiences and maybe if you 567 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 2: did something better than me, I know going forward, I 568 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 2: told you my rules. When we get back, well, well 569 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,879 Speaker 2: we're going to open up the lines right now. Six one, seven, two, five, 570 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 2: four ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, one ten 571 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 2: thirty Bring it on. Let's have some fun with this, 572 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,240 Speaker 2: Let's learn because we are now going into the Christmas 573 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 2: shopping season and I don't want anyone to be burned 574 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 2: like I was burned in this situation. We'll come on 575 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:28,839 Speaker 2: right back on Night's side.