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Speaker 2: Sorright here we go. Welcome to the weekend. Congratulations, you

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Speaker 2: I got you. I had a show, and now I've

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Speaker 2: got a different show. I'll explain. UC has fired head

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Speaker 2: coach Wes Miller after completing a fifth season without a

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Speaker 2: tournament appearance. His current buy out of nine point nine

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Speaker 2: according to the Athletic if a settlement has been reached

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Speaker 2: on that. Candidates for the job include Utah State coach

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Speaker 2: Jared Calhoun, coach at twenty six and six, Utah State

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Speaker 2: headed for their second straight tournament appearance under Calhoun, forty

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Speaker 2: Saint Louis coach Josh Shirtz, a hot name in coaching circles,

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Speaker 2: has reportedly agreed to an extension with the Billikens. College basketball. Today,

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Speaker 2: Kentucky falls to Florida seventy one sixty three. Ohio State

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Speaker 2: sixty three. The Big Twelve has transitioned to a hardwood

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Speaker 2: The Rangers designated former Reds closer and elstar Alexis Diaz

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Speaker 2: for assignment. Today. World Baseball Classic Team USA faces Canada

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Speaker 2: in the quarterfinals. Tonight, Bengals news they announced officially the

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Speaker 2: safety Geno Stone Good luck with that soccer I've seen.

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati dominated tigris Ua NL and Conka CAFF Champions Cup

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Speaker 2: Round of sixteen play last night, three to nil the

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Speaker 2: When we continue Chad Brenda from Bearcat Journal the latest

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Speaker 2: Chad Brundle. I'll start with the obvious. Your reaction to

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Speaker 2: the news of west Miller's firing today.

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Speaker 4: Uh, it stinks because you know, Wes has been very

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Speaker 4: He was instrumental in helping Kelsey through the period where

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Speaker 4: with Wes. I think Wes did everything he could to

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Speaker 2: He had what's the if there was a list, what

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Speaker 4: He was never able to put them in a position,

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Speaker 4: That's just reality. So then how do you get to nine, ten,

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Speaker 4: That's what did him in ultimately, is they they just

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Speaker 8: Yet, I look across the line, I'll soo the offense

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Speaker 4: I mean like it's it's you know, I know a

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Speaker 4: Bob Huggins disciple, so familiar with Cincinnati's background. He was

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Speaker 4: Well, there is an unknown here lands Generally, I agree

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Speaker 2: welcome in the man we call Tenel Terry Nelson. How

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Speaker 2: are you, my brother?

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Speaker 5: I am running like a chicken with his head off,

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Speaker 2: Appreciate your making to yes.

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Speaker 9: Sir, My son's birthday tonight at seven Montgomery and Ahustle.

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Speaker 9: And it's just the donors and the people that were

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Speaker 9: They liked Wes. We all like Wes. I like him

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Speaker 9: I just think his closing strategies were off because you know,

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Speaker 5: You know, his guys were all prepared. They worked the

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Speaker 9: He was starting to get dark circles under his eyes

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Speaker 5: It's a long year.

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Speaker 9: His problem was when he was in a striking position,

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Speaker 5: And that's the bottom line, Terry.

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Speaker 2: In the landscape of openings right now in college basketball,

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Speaker 9: They should be considered an amazing job.

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Speaker 5: You've got Jordan Brand, You've.

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Speaker 5: Everything is being rebuilt.

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Speaker 9: That's what U see stands for under construction.

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Speaker 5: Everything is getting rebuilt.

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Speaker 9: You got administration that's willing to put funds and resources

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Speaker 9: We just need somebody that can push us over the edge.

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Speaker 2: Is there someone who intrigues you, Terry.

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Speaker 9: Like everybody else? Obviously, Jerry Calhoun intrigued me with his success,

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Speaker 9: We had a history of physicality, and we got to

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Speaker 9: I don't know who that is, but he would.

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Speaker 5: No, I think he ran his course here.

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Speaker 9: His path would blow over here it's been a while.

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Speaker 2: You and Corey are teaming up on a must listen

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the Legends Unplus. So we're having some fun with it.

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Speaker 5: That'll be the topic of our.

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Speaker 9: Discussion for our next podcast, which would be aired next week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, wait, last question, back to Hugs. There's a documentary

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Speaker 2: You know all about it. Corey's involved, a bunch of

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Speaker 9: So it's gonna take you on a ride, not just

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Speaker 10: Just don't miss practice. You don't miss practice. If you're

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Speaker 5: I appreciate you.

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Speaker 9: Certain level of temperature, but it needed to be turned

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Speaker 9: all the way up, depending on especially when you talking

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Speaker 9: about the nil money and the state of college basketball

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Speaker 9: and the state of UC basketball in particular.

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Speaker 5: He didn't get it done.

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Speaker 9: I'm sorry because I love his staff, I love those guys,

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Speaker 9: and I'm sorry that he wasn't the.

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Speaker 5: One that helped turn it around.

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Speaker 9: Didn't turn it around, but the next guy will benefit

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Speaker 9: from the foundation that.

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Speaker 2: He laid and that as well said. Thank you, Terry,

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Speaker 2: You're welcome. All Right, there you go, Terry Nelson, we'll

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Speaker 2: take a time out of continue my thoughts on what

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Speaker 2: is transpired and what could be transpiring in the very

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Speaker 2: near future as we continue the Darnell Carrier Sports Talk

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Speaker 2: presented by Kelsey Chevellet seven hundred wlw.

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Speaker 7: Oh Man.

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Speaker 2: We are moving tonight, putting the wraps on our first

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Speaker 2: of two plus hours tonight of sports Talk. Thanks for

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Speaker 2: being here, Thanks for following on Twitter. I'm Atlance bacalister

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Speaker 2: on Twitter. Be a part of the show. That way,

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Speaker 2: contribute that way, you've heard Chad Brenda from Bearcat Journal

462
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Speaker 2: on the news of the day from Terry Nelson, you're

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Speaker 2: gonna hear from me, and then top of the are

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Speaker 2: we open up the lines of slotted opportunities for you

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Speaker 2: will discuss what happened, the why, and a name you

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Speaker 2: would like to see among candidates for our discussion. I'll

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Speaker 2: start here. This is a this is a bottom line business.

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Speaker 2: It is a result driven business. And Wes Miller was

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Speaker 2: never bad, never had a losing season. It's simply Wes

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Speaker 2: Miller was never up for the challenge of this job.

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Speaker 2: In the Big Twelve, he averaged fifteen losses a season

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Speaker 2: that just can't be accepted. You can't go zero for

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Speaker 2: five in the NCAA tournament. You get no credit for

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Speaker 2: being on the bubble. There's no credit for caring a lot,

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Speaker 2: there's no credit for working hard. Those are the built

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Speaker 2: in parts. That's part of the DNA of the expectation.

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Speaker 2: That's part of U see basketball and everybody's basketball that

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Speaker 2: you care and you work hard. But it says the

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Speaker 2: wise Yoda one said you either do do or do not,

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Speaker 2: that there is no try. Wes Miller could not and

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Speaker 2: that's why he's gone. The standard had slipped and it

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Speaker 2: was maddening to me, and it was unacceptable, and I'm

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Speaker 2: glad the university decided it was unacceptable to the point

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Speaker 2: of unable to continue. And you know, part of me thinks, well,

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Speaker 2: not thinks, I know, I think we lose track of this.

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Speaker 2: When he was hired he was hired as an American

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Speaker 2: basketball coach at the American Conference. When he was hired

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Speaker 2: from the Southern Conference at UNC Greensboro. He came here

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Speaker 2: as the coach of the UC Bearcats in the American

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Speaker 2: and coach there the first two years. And you know,

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Speaker 2: you can make a good case that Wes Miller is

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Speaker 2: an American level coach. You'll never be able to make

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Speaker 2: the coach be able to make the argument that he

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Speaker 2: was a Big twelve level coach. He was out of

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Speaker 2: his element. He was in over his head of the

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Speaker 2: Big twelve. He just wasn't capable of getting it done.

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Speaker 2: He was capable of being good, never bad. But it

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Speaker 2: wasn't enough. Not making the tournament in five years isn't enough.

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Speaker 2: The sense of frustration that grew within me led to

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Speaker 2: a point of helplessness. I lost hope. I was less

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Speaker 2: interested in you see basketball this year than any time

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Speaker 2: since I came back, going back to nineteen ninety seven,

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Speaker 2: because I knew. I knew he was not capable of

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Speaker 2: getting this fixed. There were too many moments, and the

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Speaker 2: latest one, what we saw earlier in the week, was

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Speaker 2: a moment. And you know it hit me that earlier

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Speaker 2: this week UNC Greensborough fired its basketball coach. It would

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Speaker 2: not shock me at all. And I don't mean this

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Speaker 2: as a shot. It would not shock me at all

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Speaker 2: if Wes Miller went back to UNC Greensborough was their coach,

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Speaker 2: welcome back with open arms, where he won there and

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Speaker 2: coaches there for the rest of his life and doesn't

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Speaker 2: have to deal with pressure and expectations of the Big twelve.

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Speaker 2: He can be a Southern Conference coach, coaching against and

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Speaker 2: recruiting against Southern Conference coaches, and there will be nothing

516
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Speaker 2: wrong with that. He'll be embraced for that there. It

517
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Speaker 2: just wasn't enough here, and it was never going to

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Speaker 2: be enough. You can't average fifteen losses a season and

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Speaker 2: miss the NCAA Tournament five consecutive years, no matter how

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Speaker 2: hard you work, and no matter how nice a guy

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Speaker 2: you may be, not here at least it shouldn't be

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Speaker 2: accepted here, and today it was proven it it isn't

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Speaker 2: accepted here. That gives me hope for UC basketball, because

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Speaker 2: I had lost hope for you see basketball, Let's do this.

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Speaker 2: Let's open up the lines five one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 2: seven thousand, one eight hundred, the big one. I've got

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Speaker 2: a list of openings around the country I'd like to discuss.

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Speaker 2: Very interesting comment or two from Justin Williams in the

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Speaker 2: Athletic today in writing about Wes's dismissal, I have a

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Speaker 2: candidate that would I would safely say would be my

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Speaker 2: EAT candidate at this point, and I'd be interested in

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Speaker 2: how you view this opening. Now, So here's your line

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Speaker 2: for the first time tonight. Remember short show tonight headed

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Speaker 2: towards Red's Baseball. Gonna try to drop in like a

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Speaker 2: mini version of an off the beaten Path topic. Here's

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Speaker 2: your line five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand, one,

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Speaker 2: eight hundred the big one joining the West Miller U

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Speaker 2: see basketball in the future of basketball Conversation ahead on

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Speaker 2: RNL Carrier Sports Talk presentedboy Kelsey Chevallet, seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 1: The following takes place between seven pm and eight pm.

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Speaker 2: All Right, we gotta go, We gotta go, We gotta go.

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Speaker 2: Seven o'clock hour underway, Red's Baseball coming at eight thirty tonight.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into sports Talk RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by

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Speaker 2: Kelsey Chevrolet on Lance Pacallister. To your host Joe Watell

545
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Speaker 2: producing tonight, thanks for making time to be a listener.

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Speaker 2: Our starting point for conversation in this hour surrounding the

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Speaker 2: UC Bearcats and now the job opening are the comments

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Speaker 2: from Justin Williams in The Athletic Earlier Today, who wrote

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Speaker 2: the following quote for a school that one to the

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Speaker 2: college football Playoffs in twenty twenty one and joined the

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Speaker 2: Big Twelve soon after. Much of Cincinnati's identity is rooted

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Speaker 2: in basketball. A good portion of the fan base still

553
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Speaker 2: pines for the Bob Huggins era, and those who might

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Speaker 2: have been frustrated with Mick Cronin's first weekend exits have

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Speaker 2: a better appreciation for what it took to get there.

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Speaker 2: Year after year, a program that was perennially in the

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Speaker 2: top twenty five in March Madness has become largely irrelevant

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Speaker 2: over the past six years. There was a hope that

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Speaker 2: Miller could return the Bearcats to that level of relevance

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Speaker 2: and maybe more. The results never quite followed, and he

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Speaker 2: concludes the next Cincinnati coach will step into a more

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Speaker 2: stable environment than Wes did when he took over, and

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Speaker 2: arguably the best conference in the country, but the expectations

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Speaker 2: are still the same and the new coach isn't likely

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Speaker 2: to get five seasons of runway either. Justin Williams from

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Speaker 2: The Athletic Earlier Today formerly from here covering the UC Bearcats.

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Speaker 2: I'll give you my name, you can give me yours.

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Speaker 2: We can kick him around. How realistic they are, I

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Speaker 2: don't know, but if it's me, it's Jared Calhoun. He's

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Speaker 2: the coach at Utah State. He's forty four years old.

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Speaker 2: Utah State this year is twenty six and six. They're

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Speaker 2: headed to the NCAA Tournament for the second straight year.

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Speaker 2: He's been there two years. He's fifty two and fourteen.

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Speaker 2: He was the Mountain West Coach of the Year named

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Speaker 2: earlier this week. Thirty and ten in conference play in

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Speaker 2: two years. He's a two thousand and four UC grad.

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Speaker 2: He's a former Bob Huggins grad assistant for the UC program.

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Speaker 2: He coached at Youngstown State. I talk with somebody today

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Speaker 2: who said, if you can win at Youngstown State, you

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Speaker 2: can win anywhere, because nobody wins at that place. And

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Speaker 2: over these final four seasons he won fifteen, nineteen, twenty

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Speaker 2: four to twenty two. It's the first coach in program

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Speaker 2: history to win a regular season conference title. They made

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Speaker 2: three postseason appearances. He was the Horizon League Coach of

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Speaker 2: the Year. He coached twelve All Horizon League players during

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Speaker 2: his time Prior to that, he was at Division two

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Speaker 2: Fairmont State. He guided Fairmont State to the national Championship game,

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Speaker 2: where they finished runner up. They went thirty four and three.

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Speaker 2: They were ranked number one in the country during that season.

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Speaker 2: His assistant was current Celtics coach Joe Missoula. He was

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Speaker 2: the Mountain East Coach of the Year in that conference.

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Speaker 2: He spent time as West Virginia's director of basketball operations

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Speaker 2: under Bob Huggins before becoming an assistant coach under Bob Huggins.

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Speaker 2: Prior to that, was an assistant at Walsh for years.

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Speaker 2: Played two years at Cleveland State, was coached by Raleigh Massamino,

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Speaker 2: known as an offensive tactician, top thirty in the Ken

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Speaker 2: Palm rankings for offensive official over the last couple of years.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if John Cunningham can land this plane

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Speaker 2: or not, but my choice would be Jared Calhoun, forty

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Speaker 2: four years old of Utah State. And I think if

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Speaker 2: you look at the landscape and right now, I don't

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Speaker 2: know if this is a complete list of openings, but

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Speaker 2: you're talking about you see air Force, Ball State, Belmont,

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Speaker 2: Boston College, cal State, Bakersfield, Georgia Tech, Syracuse Providence, UNC,

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Speaker 2: Greensboro and others that are open. There's about seventeen or

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Speaker 2: eighteen jobs open. You can take Syracuse because Carmelo Anthony

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Speaker 2: or Jim Beheim ain't walking through that door. You can

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Speaker 2: take Providence of this group. If I were somebody like

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Speaker 2: Jared Calhoun, if I were a prospective coach who would

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Speaker 2: make his way onto a hot board, this you see,

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Speaker 2: job would be the choice over any school on this

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Speaker 2: list that has an opening. Let's go to the phones five, one, three,

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Speaker 2: seven to four, nine, seven thousand, one, eight hundred. The

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Speaker 2: big one would begin in Western Hills. Rick, Welcome to

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Speaker 2: sports talg.

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Speaker 6: Hey, Lance, how are you doing tonight? I'm doing well. Also,

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Speaker 6: it's a happy day. Is a uclum and long time

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Speaker 6: former season ticket holder. My choice would be Bob Huggins.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to debate that. I know that's not likely.

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Speaker 5: But the bigger issue I have.

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Speaker 6: Is I cannot believe that John Cunningham is allowed to

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Speaker 6: make this decision. He's proven he cannot do this. I

623
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Speaker 6: mean four major hires, three total failures, one incomplete. I'll

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Speaker 6: give Katrina Merriweather and incomplete, but John Brannon Scott centerfield.

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Speaker 6: Wes Miller total failures in definition of insanity. I mean,

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Speaker 6: come on, he should not be in a position to

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Speaker 6: make this decision. I have no confidence in his ability

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Speaker 6: to do that.

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Speaker 2: A very fair concern, and I can't believe if I'm

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Speaker 2: Neville Pinto, I can't believe there would have been a

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Speaker 2: conversation that John, if you really are going to have

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Speaker 2: us write a check to move on from this guy

633
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Speaker 2: who you brought in and convinced me to give an extension.

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Speaker 2: If I'm going to keep you around, understand this is it.

635
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Speaker 2: Either this works or you're out with the next guy,

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Speaker 2: because clearly they're not moving on. It would appear they're

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Speaker 2: not moving on from John. But I can't believe there

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Speaker 2: isn't an ultimatum issue at this point to him.

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Speaker 6: Which is one hire too late to do that? That

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00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,280
Speaker 6: should have been the ultimatum when Wes Miller was hired.

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Speaker 6: I mean, we're way too passive, We're way too accepting.

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00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 6: He's proven he can't do this. What more data do

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Speaker 6: we need? He's four major hires, three failures, and an

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Speaker 6: incomplete I mean, come on.

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Speaker 2: Rick, understand the frustration. Hear it in your voice. Have

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Speaker 2: verry weekend. Thanks for checking in thanks, all right, thank you.

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Speaker 2: I thought I was. I was very interested in Terry,

648
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Speaker 2: and I thought I I debated. I said, do I

649
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 2: ask Terry about Huggs? And I said, well, I have

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Speaker 2: to ask Terry about Huggs? And I thought he gave

651
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 2: a great answer. He loves Hugs. But it has run

652
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Speaker 2: its course. I mean, let's understand, Bob Huggins is seventy two.

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Speaker 2: He has not coached over the last three seasons. He

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Speaker 2: hasn't experienced the nil period, the revenue share period, the

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Speaker 2: transfer portal. The way it is, there is no way

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Speaker 2: this university is going back to Bob Huggins. And I

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Speaker 2: think Terry put it as eloquently and fairly and gracefully

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Speaker 2: as he could as someone who absolutely loves Bob Huggins.

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Speaker 2: What he said, it's run its course. You can't go

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Speaker 2: back to that. And I think, in to one aspect

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Speaker 2: of this, Jared Calhoun is like a I don't want

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Speaker 2: to say, an olive branch. What's the word. I'm looking

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Speaker 2: like a connection, like a branch on the tree. Because

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Speaker 2: there are clearly a lot of people want Hugs back.

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Speaker 2: But man, if you brought Jared Calhoun in, who has

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Speaker 2: won it multiple levels and with multiple programs, and is

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Speaker 2: highly thought of and is considered the hot coach. And

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Speaker 2: he's a Huggins disciple, a grad assistant, a UC grad

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Speaker 2: and a grad assistant under Hugs at UC and an

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Speaker 2: assistant under Hugs a West Virginia. What better I don't

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Speaker 2: even want to say peace offering, but what better extension

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Speaker 2: to the fan base who wants Hugs to say, We're

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Speaker 2: bringing a guy who Hugs has signed off with and

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Speaker 2: aligned his coaching career with on multiple occasions. And I mean,

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Speaker 2: I can't be the only one who would be envisioning

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Speaker 2: Bob Huggins sitting center court at Fifth Third Arena in

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Speaker 2: the coming years with Jared Calhoun's the coach rooting him on,

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Speaker 2: if not behind the scenes, being any type of mover shaker,

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Speaker 2: deal breaker, influencer, handshaker, glad hander that he could for

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Speaker 2: Jared with the program is what we my thought because

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Speaker 2: I just don't think it's realistic. I think it's I

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Speaker 2: think it's wasted time talking about Bob Huggins being the

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Speaker 2: next coach. I just don't two things, I don't think

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Speaker 2: it's ever gonna happen, and two I don't think it

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Speaker 2: should happen. I think it'd be a step back for

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Speaker 2: the pro You can't. You can't expose yourself to somebody

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Speaker 2: who's been out of the game for three years, who's

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Speaker 2: seventy two, who hasn't even been involved in the game

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Speaker 2: that has changed dramatically since he last coached, did it.

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Speaker 2: There's got to be a better candidate at this time.

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Speaker 2: This isn't the nineteen ninety version of Bob Huggins in

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Speaker 2: the ninety version of the game. Jared Calhoun is someone

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Speaker 2: from that tree who's a modern version of someone who

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Speaker 2: builds programs and wins and has a heck of an offense.

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Speaker 2: Although he lost his top assistant today to Turtleton State,

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Speaker 2: in fact, the top assistant for him who left to

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Speaker 2: take the Turtles Turtleton State job, was an n KU

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Speaker 2: assistant for five seasons. Go back out to the phones

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Speaker 2: in Indiana, Aaron, you were on seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 5: Hey, I tell you money, I'm good. Hey.

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Speaker 7: First of all, the article from that article summed up

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Speaker 7: everything and made a lot of my points.

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Speaker 5: But I have two quick ones. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: First of all, don't quote me on the time. I

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Speaker 7: think it was two seasons ago, almost halfway through the season.

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Speaker 7: I listened to you after a bad loss, stating you

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Speaker 7: could not identify the offense that Wes Miller was running,

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Speaker 7: and that summed up so much for me.

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Speaker 5: That was just unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: And he never did really get an offense that was fluent, functional, efficient.

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Speaker 2: It just it just wasn't there, and nor heat or

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Speaker 2: he seventeen assistants couldn't seem to put together an offense

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Speaker 2: at any point of any efficiency.

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Speaker 7: And you didn't know what style they were running. That

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Speaker 7: was what was killing me. But I agree, I think

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Speaker 7: I think Jared from Utah State, that's the go to.

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Speaker 7: I hope it happens. I know the rumor, mail is

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Speaker 7: the rumor, mel But your opinion on this. Rumors are

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Speaker 7: k State wanted him bad and pulled out?

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Speaker 5: Is that because they know something? Maybe we hope.

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Speaker 2: Good question. I don't know, but that that is, that's

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Speaker 2: a good question.

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Speaker 5: Let's hope.

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Speaker 7: So he'd be a great he'd be a great hire.

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Speaker 7: I'd get excited again.

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Speaker 2: Hey, have a great weekend, Aaron, you too, Thanks buddy,

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Speaker 2: thank you. All right, we're rolling some more of this.

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Speaker 2: Jeff Christina open line five one, three, seven, four nine

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Speaker 2: seven thousand, one eight hundred the Big one Arnel Carrier.

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Speaker 2: Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chervalet seven hundred WLW one to.

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Speaker 11: The box over the decade, sucks it past the goalkeeper.

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Speaker 11: NFC Cincinnati get the start they needed with Kevin ten

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Speaker 11: after the presser sets.

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Speaker 2: Him up from a pass for Etchik. How about that

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Speaker 2: for a bounce back for REFC Cincinnati. Last night consecutive

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Speaker 2: one nil defeats mounting frustration and last night three nil

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Speaker 2: domination of Tigris Ua NL first leg of the COCKA

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Speaker 2: CAF Champions Cup Round of sixteen last night at TQL

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Speaker 2: Kevin Denk two goals, a brace and the assist. They

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Speaker 2: roll on. They'll jump back into MLS place Sunday at

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Speaker 2: Gillette Stadium taking on New England Revolution two thirty kick

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Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen thirty. Then the second leg of the

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Speaker 2: Champions Cup Round of sixteen versus t Grays takes place

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Speaker 2: in Mexico and impressive last night they rolled off. The

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Speaker 2: beating pat topic coming just around the corner afternoons, a

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Speaker 2: couple of UC conversations to take care of in pleasant Ridge, Christino.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Sports Talk.

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Speaker 12: Hello Lance, I was driving home from work and just

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Speaker 12: turned what happened.

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Speaker 2: I've heard about it yet, Yes, what's your go ahead?

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Speaker 13: Twenty two years?

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Speaker 12: Yes, susn't take twenty two years. So it's seeing what

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Speaker 12: four or five coaches come through. But in the last

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Speaker 12: since the NIL and the whole portal thing came, my

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Speaker 12: Skillings never would have left if it hadn't been for

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Speaker 12: the NIL. And I think it's for any coach. I

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Speaker 12: don't care who the coach is. The portal and the

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Speaker 12: NIL just make it way more difficult because because get

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Speaker 12: a cohesive team together to stay together for like the.

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Speaker 14: Four years, I mean day Dave Thomas is what the only.

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Speaker 13: One that nig's been only there three years?

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Speaker 12: You know, I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's just I know, I feel you. I mean, it

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Speaker 2: is the it's it's unfortunately, it's the reality of the

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Speaker 2: college basketball world today and everybody has to deal with it.

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Speaker 2: Those who who adjust to it can survive it, and

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Speaker 2: not everybody can. It makes it awfully challenging.

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Speaker 12: I think though they need to consider, like I know, back,

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Speaker 12: I don't know, it's just in the old days when

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Speaker 12: you transferred, you had to let sit out a year,

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Speaker 12: right yep.

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Speaker 2: Well, unfortunately Christina were not going back to the old days.

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Speaker 9: It's a side on. It's very very frustrated.

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Speaker 2: I hear your voice.

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Speaker 12: Because I mean, like you said, you know, he was

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Speaker 12: a great guy, nice person, but it just I mean,

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Speaker 12: I think, yeah, he just had he got you know,

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Speaker 12: people getting hurt. The portals just just didn't work out

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Speaker 12: for him.

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Speaker 2: That's that's that's a good way to sum it up.

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Speaker 2: It just didn't work out for him. Christina, hang in there,

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Speaker 2: enjoy your weekend, and thanks for listening tonight.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Uh, let's go to dayton Hey, Jeff, you're on seven

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Speaker 2: hundred w l W.

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Speaker 5: Was good to talk to you. Good show tonight, by

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Speaker 5: the way, thank you.

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Speaker 2: What's on your mind, sir?

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Speaker 15: I'm gonna cover three things real quick. Number one, you

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Speaker 15: see coach if if that uh that coach you were

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Speaker 15: talking about, yes, is available, I would presume it's gonna

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Speaker 15: come down to salary and if they can match or

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Speaker 15: top any other salaries that you mentioned all those schools

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Speaker 15: oaking position, I think he'll come here and that sounds

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Speaker 15: like a great choice.

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Speaker 2: Yes, successful, forty four years old, connection and understanding of

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Speaker 2: the program and the history. There's a lot of boxes

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Speaker 2: checked with Jared.

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Speaker 5: Calhoun, Yes, sir.

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Speaker 15: Secondly about the Bengals, yeah, I here's being still complain

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Speaker 15: complaint sustin. They've killed the free tech position. Now they

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Speaker 15: got a rotation with bj Hill and they've got a

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Speaker 15: what the left the defensive end they signed, he's got

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Speaker 15: a pass rush. Well, his job is going to be

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Speaker 15: like Hubbard's. Well, no, outside he was, he was, yes

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Speaker 15: he was. He was not as big as sack guy

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Speaker 15: this season, but he has been. They're scheming changed with

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Speaker 15: their coach in Seattle. But he's had a nine sack season,

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Speaker 15: six sax season, so I think they expect there's more

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Speaker 15: there for him. Well, I think the main thing is

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Speaker 15: that we had to have an outside edge protector. Maybe

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Speaker 15: Shamar Stewart will work out in that role as well,

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Speaker 15: but anyway, they solidified that and all the other poisions

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Speaker 15: they got, they got the safety they wanted. I think

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Speaker 15: all they need in the draft basically is, I don't

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Speaker 15: know what around, but another nose tackle.

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Speaker 2: I think they need a veteran linebacker to put with

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Speaker 2: those youngsters as well.

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Speaker 5: That'd be good too.

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Speaker 15: I'd like to see Genevian Clowney signed with the mail

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Speaker 15: I think again for like six million dollars. Most is

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Speaker 15: about twelve. But he's gonna play half a season normally,

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Speaker 15: so and he's twelve million. I think six million for

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Speaker 15: a clowny be a steel. And finally about the Rids,

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Speaker 15: Matt McClean is, I don't know what he's sound something.

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Speaker 15: This guy is not not this average or anything in

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Speaker 15: spring training, you know. I know all the pitchers are

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Speaker 15: trying to figure out their pitches and such. But he's

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Speaker 15: getting the barrel on the ball and he's hitting it everywhere.

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Speaker 15: So he's locked in and it discontinues, which I think

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Speaker 15: it might. He might be one of the top second

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Speaker 15: basements in the National League.

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Speaker 2: This yeah, I'm getting very excited. Now, hey, Jeff, I

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Speaker 2: got a run. Have a great weekend, all right, thank you.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Matt McClain has tripled tonight already in

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Speaker 2: the split squad get for two games tonight one at

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Speaker 2: seven to one at nine Reds and Giants one home

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Speaker 2: one road Red's leading to nothing in the second inning.

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Speaker 2: Matt McClain has tripled in the first inning and scored

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Speaker 2: Chase Burns, an inning in the books did not allow

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Speaker 2: a run. We'll continue to update on that. The nine

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Speaker 2: o'clock game coming your way here inside pitch one hour

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Speaker 2: from now up next we'll round out the Huggins or Huggins,

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Speaker 2: well maybe the Huggins and the UC conversation. And I

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Speaker 2: have an off the beaten path topic related to Rory McElroy,

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Speaker 2: his father and Augusta National. I'm gonna need and seek

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Speaker 2: your help on it after the news RNEL Carrier Sports

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Speaker 2: Talk present by Kelsey Chevallet seven hundred WLW seven thirty

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Speaker 2: seven seven hundred WLW RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by

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Speaker 2: Kelsey Chevalet. By the way, shout out to Abby and

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Speaker 2: Kyler McNally, the twins from col Rane High School. Told

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Speaker 2: you about him last night if you were listening. They

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Speaker 2: are playing for Marion University out of Indianapolis. The Marion

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Speaker 2: Knights the women's basketball team playing in the NAIA Tournament.

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Speaker 2: They are I believe number four in the country and one.

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Speaker 2: Today in opening round tournament action Big ninety six sixty seven,

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Speaker 2: Abbey had nineteen points seven rebounds and Kylie had twelve

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Speaker 2: points and six rebounds. The Marion Knights moved to thirty

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Speaker 2: and two on the season. In advance in the NAIA Tournament,

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Speaker 2: Mary Knights hosting this weekend in their region of the Brackets.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's do this. We've got less than an hour. Now,

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Speaker 2: it's not a normal Friday night. We usually do an

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Speaker 2: off the Beaten Pat topic in the eight o'clock hour.

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Speaker 2: We'll call this a quasi mini off the Beaten Pat topic.

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Speaker 2: And I think there's something there, but ultimately it's always

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Speaker 2: up to you. I'm looking for cool stories. I love

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Speaker 2: cool stories. This I think is a really cool story

868
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Speaker 2: which should hopefully connect with you in some way, shape

869
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,879
Speaker 2: or form for a cool story if you're ready now.

870
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 2: I was reading this in Golf magazine golf dot com

871
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,240
Speaker 2: this week online and Rory McElroy, you remember him winning

872
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 2: the Masters. Now stirring performance of the Masters and emotional

873
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 2: for him, and he finally broke through and he wanted

874
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 2: the Masters. He was in tears on eighteen and he

875
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 2: hugs his Caddy, his childhood friend, and he gets a

876
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 2: hug with his four year old daughter Poppy. And there

877
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 2: was a notable, noticeable absence from that event. His parents,

878
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 2: Jerry and Rosie. They were watching their son and that

879
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 2: long awaited Grand Slam moment from their home in Northern Ireland.

880
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 2: They were four thousand miles away, unable to be there

881
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 2: this week maybe last week technically last week. Rory and

882
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:29,280
Speaker 2: Jerry his dad, visited Augusta National and they played eighteen holes.

883
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:35,720
Speaker 2: They walked in the hallowed champions locker room and hanging

884
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 2: is the seven iron of the wall, which Rory used

885
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 2: for just the indelible shot of the One of the

886
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 2: most indelible shots in Master's history is a high curving

887
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 2: drawl around a pine tree on the per five fifteenth,

888
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 2: about two hundred and eight yards out softly onto the green.

889
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 2: He checked out his locker mates. You get a locker

890
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 2: there is the Master's champ and he's between Ben Hogan

891
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 2: and Raymond Floyd and his father. The two of them

892
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 2: got to play a round of golf at Augusta National

893
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 2: with the Augusta National Chairman Fred Ridley father son playing

894
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 2: Augusta National. In fact, they got the fifteen the sight

895
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 2: of the shot last year, and they reenacted the shot

896
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 2: and Rory said he actually hit a better shot he

897
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 2: which he had a camera. He actually hit a better

898
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 2: shot with her reenacting it. But its father and son

899
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 2: walking and playing eighteen at the Masters. And in the

900
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,879
Speaker 2: story I was reading from golf dot Com. The line

901
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 2: that got me thinking that the writer said not to

902
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 2: get too sentimental here, but in what other sport could

903
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 2: a father and son revisit the site of the son's

904
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:52,760
Speaker 2: greatest triumph and attempt to recreate the most memorable moment

905
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 2: from that victory? And I thought, wait a minute, we

906
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 2: could do a topic on the coolest sports related thing

907
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:08,720
Speaker 2: you've experienced with your father or your child. What would

908
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:15,280
Speaker 2: that be? Rory McElroy Win's the Masters. That's great. Parents

909
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 2: not there, wife was there, daughter was there. But man,

910
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 2: mom and dad are not there. They're four thousand miles away.

911
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 2: But a year later, listen, a year later, dad flies in,

912
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 2: father son, let's play eighteen at the Masters. And it's Rory,

913
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:38,240
Speaker 2: his dad, and the chairman of the Augusta National Course,

914
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Speaker 2: the three of them for an afternoon of golf. Can

915
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 2: you imagine how cool that would be? But you've had

916
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 2: something that has just flashed into your head, something you

917
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 2: did sports related with your dad or your son or

918
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 2: your daughter. I got to spend a week playing on

919
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 2: the same team with my dad at Red's Baseball Heaven.

920
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 2: He was sixty four, about to turn sixty five at

921
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 2: the time. He started at third base. Every day he

922
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 2: scored the winning run as we won the championship, managed

923
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 2: by Jack Billingham, we did the morning workouts. Now I

924
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 2: mean so cool walking into the complex and in to

925
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 2: the clubhouse and you see hanging in the locker your

926
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 2: uniform and your name on the back, and you put

927
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 2: the you put your your baseball spikes on and you're

928
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 2: walking out and you hear the clock click of the

929
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Speaker 2: clock on the on the concrete, and then you're out

930
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 2: doing warm up drills and they held the draft and

931
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 2: then you get to play a couple of games a

932
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 2: day with your dad on the same team. Casey and

933
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 2: I were together at Jay Bruce's clinch miss in twenty

934
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 2: ten moondeck seats. As the ball left the bat, we

935
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 2: started jumping up and down. He jumped up into my

936
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 2: arms and as the ball lands and the fireworks are

937
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 2: going off, were looking up and the fireworks are going

938
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 2: off above us and the moon deck, and we are

939
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,760
Speaker 2: high fiving people's completing total strangers. We're hugging and jumping

940
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 2: up and down with people who were complete strangers. That

941
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 2: was a cool moment with Casey for a sports experience.

942
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 2: Let me open up the lines five, one, three, seven, four, nine,

943
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 2: seven thousand, one, eight hundred, the big One. Give me

944
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 2: something cool like It may not be Rory, it may

945
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 2: not be the equivalent of Rory and his dad playing

946
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 2: the Masters, how cool, But you've got something that just

947
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 2: clicked that fits as a story of something cool sports

948
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 2: wise you experience with your dad or your kids. I

949
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 2: did a cross country trip with Casey and my dad

950
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 2: to Cooperstown for the Hall of Fame induction weekend of

951
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 2: King Griffy Junior. Now that's a long haul because Cooper's

952
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 2: town is out in the middle of nowhere, and I

953
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 2: mean out in the middle of nowhere. I'll never forget

954
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 2: listening to Let's into the radios. We're driving and at night,

955
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 2: trying to pick up the different stations, carrying games to

956
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 2: the crack on the static of the AM radio and

957
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 2: listening to different games along the way, and that weekend

958
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 2: and it just total chaos in Cooperstown. I want to

959
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 2: go back in a non induction weekend, but man, do

960
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 2: we have a blast. And we were invited to a

961
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 2: gathering on the Friday night before involving King Griffy and

962
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 2: I will never forget Junior had not seen Casey since

963
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 2: he visited him in the hospital. So it was a

964
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 2: good I say, a good ten years later and Junior

965
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:40,240
Speaker 2: walked in and he saw me, and he saw Casey

966
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 2: and he came up to Casey and gave him a hug.

967
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 2: And I'll never forget. I give my dad the phone

968
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:53,280
Speaker 2: to take a picture, and it's me and Junior and Casey,

969
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 2: And as my dad gets the phone ready to take

970
00:54:56,400 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 2: our picture, Junior pushes me out of the picture with

971
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 2: a smile on his face because he wanted the picture

972
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 2: with Kaysey, which was just so incredibly cool. Back to

973
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 2: the original topic five one, three, seven four nine, seven thousand,

974
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 2: one eight hundred the Big One. We've got forty five

975
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 2: minutes for a quasi mini version of an off the

976
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 2: Beaten Path topic. But when I read it, I said,

977
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 2: I think that's got a chance because everybody's got a story,

978
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 2: a moment that they shared with their dad, or their

979
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 2: son or their daughter related to sports. I want you

980
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 2: to tell me about it.

981
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 5: Next.

982
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 2: Arnel Carrier, Sports Talk Presentybody, Kelsey, Chevrolet seven hundred WLW.

983
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 2: All right, closing in on eight o'clock, We're moving right

984
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 2: along to this Friday night update. J On the reds

985
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 2: here in a second, one game underway, one to follow that,

986
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 2: one to follow a herd right here on seven hundred WLW.

987
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 2: We jumped in with both feet on a Friday night,

988
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 2: off the beaten path. Topic. Don't have a whole lot

989
00:55:58,360 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 2: of time for it, but let's see what we can

990
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,720
Speaker 2: make out of it. Rory McElroy, who won the Masters

991
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 2: last year, dramatic day for him, did it without his parents.

992
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 2: They were at home in Northern Ireland, some four thousand

993
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 2: miles away, but I think it was last week with

994
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 2: his parents in town, Rory and his dad went to

995
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 2: Augusta National and played around of golf with the Augusta

996
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 2: National chairman and talked about what a dream of a

997
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 2: lifetime moment it was to share it with his dad

998
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 2: playing eighteen at Augusta, And I thought, well, maybe you've

999
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,399
Speaker 2: got a moment in sports that you shared with your

1000
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 2: dad or your child that could make for a topic

1001
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 2: of conversation tonight. Let's head to Wyoming and then Clifton.

1002
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 2: We start with Logan on seven hundred WLW.

1003
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 16: Hi Logan, Hey, how's it going?

1004
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 14: Well?

1005
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 2: Hey welcome, what's it? What do you got for me?

1006
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 13: So?

1007
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 16: Actually my dad got a nickname on the radio. Actually

1008
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 16: this stage ship by the great Mark Amazon. Oh there

1009
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 16: they both go to They both were going this whipple

1010
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 16: ball tournament that they've been going to pretty much since

1011
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 16: they were all kids to take more high school shout

1012
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 16: out tick, more high school aviators and uh so they

1013
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 16: call it the Jiggly and it's everybody in the big twenty.

1014
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 16: And they would play this big whipple ball tournament until

1015
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 16: they all started getting old and injured. But that took

1016
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 16: me to last Giggly that and Mark was on his team.

1017
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 16: We had one broken leg, but my dad won the championship.

1018
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 2: Oh yes, yes, Oh that's fantastic. That's that's that's a

1019
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 2: perfect story, exactly what I'm looking for.

1020
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 11: Yes, yes, is it big.

1021
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 16: It was a super fun time watching a bunch of

1022
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 16: forty fifty year old dudes gliding for a first and

1023
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:55,919
Speaker 16: they gotta go to work the next day.

1024
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 9: It was awesome.

1025
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 2: That is fantastic, Hate logan. I'm glad you call for

1026
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 2: the first time. Please don't make it your last. All right,

1027
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 2: all right, thank you, That's what I'm looking for. You've

1028
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 2: got one. I got a phone line for you. Clifton.

1029
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 2: We go, Hi, Judy, Hi, when.

1030
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 12: I was six years old, I went fishing.

1031
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 5: With my father. Oh I had on.

1032
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 12: A an off the shoulder dress and I got sunburned

1033
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 12: really bad.

1034
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 2: Oh no, oh no, but it's a it's a memory

1035
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 2: that has stuck with you all those years.

1036
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1037
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 2: Well, Judy, I'm glad you shared, and please enjoy your weekend,

1038
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 2: all right.

1039
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 3: You would enjoy yours too, Thank you.

1040
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 2: I had a chance to experience the Field of Dreams

1041
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 2: with Casey. We went to Dyersville, Iowa for the Reds.

1042
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 2: That was Red's White Sox Field of Dreams game, and

1043
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 2: we walked the movie set, did the whole thing. We

1044
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 2: sat on the white bench that uh that Kevin Costner

1045
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 2: and his wife and the daughter and then remember the

1046
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 2: daughter falls off and she's choking and Bert Lancaster walks

1047
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 2: across the line and gives up being a doctor to

1048
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 2: save her from choking. We sat on that bench. We

1049
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 2: had a catch. Of course, we brought our mits on

1050
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 2: the trip. We had to catch on the movie set.

1051
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 2: And then at the end of the night, I'll never

1052
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 2: forget this. We had we had the baseball that we

1053
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 2: use when we had her catch. Well, at the end

1054
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 2: of the night is we're walking out Uh to get

1055
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 2: on the plane. We had flown out. We we were

1056
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 2: walking past the cornfields. You know that if you build it,

1057
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 2: they will come, and we had heard the tradition was

1058
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 2: when you were there as a visitor, you if you

1059
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 2: had a baseball, at the end of your visit, you

1060
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 2: threw the baseball into the field of corn the field

1061
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 2: of dreams, and it was like a gift to the

1062
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 2: baseball gods. And at the end of the night, in

1063
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 2: darkness whatever, it's eleven o'clock at night, Casey pulls the

1064
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 2: baseball out of his pocket and signed it, and I

1065
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 2: signed it, and he roars back and throws it into

1066
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 2: the field as our final act of the Field of Dreams.

1067
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 2: We got on the bus to go to the airport

1068
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 2: and flew home. Unbelievably cool sports related experience with my son.

1069
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 2: How about Fairfield, Hey Ron, welcome to seven hundred WLW.

1070
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 5: Hey Lance, Hey, I got one.

1071
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 14: I got one for you here.

1072
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1073
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 14: So my father had a record store down in Clifton

1074
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 14: years ago. I'm sixty two years old.

1075
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 6: So when I was a child in my.

1076
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 14: Elementary squad, I don't know, I was seven, eight nine

1077
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 14: years old. He had a frequent customer of the store

1078
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 14: named Mike Read, who was a linebacker for the Night Angles.

1079
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 14: But Mike was a music lover, yes, and I used

1080
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Speaker 14: to know go hang out with my dad at the

1081
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Speaker 14: shop from time to time. So I met Mike a

1082
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 14: couple of times, and he like he was frequent. He

1083
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Speaker 14: actually my dad invited him to the house and he

1084
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 14: came to dinner at our house one night, and you know,

1085
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 14: he sent me an autograph picture of himself out of

1086
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 14: piano and I had a.

1087
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,919
Speaker 5: Lot of football cards and all that nice. So I see.

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01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 14: But then here's a good part of the story. You know,

1089
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 14: Mike goes on Lee's football becomes a great songwriter country music.

1090
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:32,439
Speaker 14: I never saw him again. Fast forward, my son, who's

1091
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 14: now twenty four, went to CCM down at euc Yeah,

1092
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 14: and as a junior at CCM, they had these little

1093
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 14: groups of students who formed groups for part of their

1094
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 14: class and they would write songs and stuff and put

1095
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 14: on little shows. So I go down to one of

1096
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 14: the shows one year and at the end of the show,

1097
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 14: the professor's talking about the next month's show and he says,

1098
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 14: we're gonna have a guest speaker here.

1099
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 5: He says it's gonna be Mike read.

1100
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 14: I'm thinking, Mike Greed, Is that the same guy I knew?

1101
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 5: So I had to professorate. He tell me yeah.

1102
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 14: So I go back the next month to their show

1103
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 14: and Mike's there, and I went up to him before

1104
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 14: the show and I said, hey, I met you a

1105
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 14: long time ago. I'd like to talk to you, and

1106
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 14: this is over after you're une talking with the students

1107
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 14: and whatnot. He says, okay, I said, I met you

1108
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 14: like forty fifty years ago.

1109
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:26,959
Speaker 5: He said, well, what were you too?

1110
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 14: I said, And so he finishes up with the class

1111
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 14: that my father's shop had these bags the size of

1112
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 14: forty five records and the size of problems, and we

1113
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 14: had saved some of them after my father had passed

1114
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 14: away and whatnot. They were a pink bag with a

1115
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 14: store name. If you had never been to my dad's store,

1116
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 14: you knew this bag.

1117
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 5: So I brought one with me and I had my coat.

1118
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 14: And after that I got to Mike.

1119
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 5: I think.

1120
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 14: He says, so, how do I know you? And I

1121
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 14: pulled out the bag and opened it up and he

1122
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 14: looked at it and he says, you're Angelo's son.

1123
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 9: I said, yeah, Oh, pull circle.

1124
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 14: I met you as a child in my dad's shopping

1125
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 14: Not here, I am, you're teaching my son, and I'm

1126
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 14: meeting you again fifty years later.

1127
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 2: Now the hair is standing up on that one. That

1128
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 2: is fantastic. Oh, Ron, I'm glad you were listening. Thanks

1129
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 2: for sharing the story.

1130
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 5: Sarah, thank you. I love your self.

1131
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 2: Oh that made my night. That's a ghost of hair

1132
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 2: standing out. How cool is that?

1133
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 17: One?

1134
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:26,959
Speaker 2: Full circle? All right, let's do this. Let's officially close

1135
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 2: out the seven o'clock hour. We'll transition. We've got a

1136
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 2: split hour coming up. We'll do We'll take more of

1137
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 2: your calls and round out the off the beaten pat topic.

1138
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 2: The mini version tonight than at eight thirty five, it's

1139
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 2: Reds and Giants. In the second game, it's a split squad,

1140
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 2: different sites home and away. And Chase Burns is out

1141
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 2: of tonight's game after two innings, two innings, one hit,

1142
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 2: two strikeouts. He threw uh didn't throw a boatload of pitches.

1143
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 2: Originally was scheduled to throw four. Charlie Goldsmith says Charlie.

1144
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 2: Chase Burns told him after the game they backed off

1145
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 2: his workload a little bit. He'd been doing a lot

1146
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 2: of throwing on the side this week, so he threw

1147
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 2: twenty four pitches tonight, but two winnings, one hit, two

1148
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 2: strikeouts in that game, and the Reds lead to nothing

1149
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 2: over the Giants. All right, let's check news, grab some

1150
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 2: more of your calls, and get you to Red's Baseball

1151
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 2: at the bottom of the eight o'clock hour. This is

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01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 2: our now Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven

1153
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 2: hundred WLW.

1154
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Speaker 1: The following takes place between eight pm and nine pm.

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Speaker 2: All right, hang on, we are hustling through this eight

1156
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:54,919
Speaker 2: o'clock hour. We've got thirty minutes to work with. Red's

1157
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 2: Baseball plays here bottom of the hour. Thanks for making

1158
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 2: your way here. It's a Friday, nights the weekend. Congratu relations.

1159
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 2: You made it, We made it, and you're tuned into

1160
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 2: RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. I'm loncemcavlister

1161
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 2: Joe Watell producing tonight the news of the day. Wes

1162
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 2: Miller out the name to your homework assignment for the weekend.

1163
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 2: Look up, dig around, see what you think of Jared Calhoun,

1164
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 2: the forty four year old Utah State coach who is

1165
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:25,959
Speaker 2: a former UC grad former Bob Huggins, assistant at you See,

1166
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 2: a grad assistant at You See, and an assistant with

1167
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,479
Speaker 2: him at West Virginia. He was the Mountain West coach

1168
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 2: of the Year. This week, the Utah State team twenty

1169
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 2: six and six bound for the NCAA Tournament for the

1170
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 2: second straight season. That name the name being kicked around,

1171
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 2: I would say most early on in all. This Xavier

1172
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 2: season came to a close last night, falling to number

1173
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 2: two Yukon ninety three sixty eight in the Big East Tournament.

1174
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 2: Madison Square Garden Musketeers close out the season fifteen and eighteen,

1175
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 2: overall six and four in the Big East. Richard Battino

1176
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 2: summing up season number one one with Joe and Byron

1177
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 2: after the game.

1178
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 18: Proud of them, a total joy to the coach on

1179
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 18: a daily basis. You know, a great locker room all year.

1180
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 18: They were positive, They gave us everything they had. You know,

1181
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 18: there was no drama, there was no selfishness. You know,

1182
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 18: year one is always very hard, but the character in

1183
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 18: this locker room is something I.

1184
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 5: Will never forget.

1185
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 18: You know, it rarely ends well for everybody, and it's disappointing.

1186
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 18: We didn't want it to end, but you know they'll

1187
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 18: hold their heads high and that they're building the foundation

1188
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 18: for savior moving forward.

1189
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 2: Richard Pattino. Last night, Tonight's Off the Beaten Pat topic

1190
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 2: is from Rory McElroy. He won the Masters last year.

1191
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 2: His parents were unable to be there. Last week, Rory

1192
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 2: and his dad played a round of golf at the

1193
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 2: Masters with the chairman of Augusta National and they re

1194
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 2: enacted his famous shot on fifteen, the miraculous shot last

1195
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 2: year at the Masters, And the story I saw from

1196
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 2: Golf Magazine was talking about just how cool it was

1197
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 2: for father and son to experience a moment like that

1198
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 2: and on the courus reenact the famous shot on fifteen,

1199
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 2: and that led me into tonight's Off the Beaten Pat topic.

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01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 2: There's something cool you've experienced in sports with your dad

1201
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 2: or your kids. My dad and I drove back and

1202
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 2: forth from Carmel, Indiana, to Riverfront Stadium three consecutive nights,

1203
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 2: tracking Pete Rose on his way to hit number forty

1204
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:21,479
Speaker 2: one ninety two. I never remember the order. The first

1205
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 2: night he played and went oh for four. Second night

1206
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 2: he didn't play because it was a left hander, but

1207
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 2: we still went because we thought he might pinch hit,

1208
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 2: and then went back to third night. He finally did

1209
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 2: it third straight night on our drive from Carmel to Cincinnati,

1210
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 2: and we saw history. And I'll never forget that moment

1211
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 2: with my dad in an eight minute standing ovation with

1212
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 2: with Pete in tears at first base and me and

1213
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 2: my dad hugging each other. Was unbelievable. One of the

1214
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 2: things I thought about, how about you at five, one, three, seven, four, nine,

1215
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 2: seven thousand, one, eight hundred, the big one in Mason,

1216
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 2: Hey Jim, welcome to sports Talk.

1217
01:07:56,720 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 13: Hey Fish Wide, I'm gonna go way back this one.

1218
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 13: Nineteen sixty four. I was a sophomore in high school

1219
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 13: locally here in Cincinnati, and my father just passed away.

1220
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 13: And a couple of my teammates said, I played on

1221
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 13: the baseball team, and I was a catcher, And a

1222
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 13: couple of my buddies said, hey, we play on this

1223
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:24,640
Speaker 13: summer team, so you want to come along, And so

1224
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 13: I went. And it was Hal Pennington's summer baseball team.

1225
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 9: It was Bentley Post.

1226
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 13: Changing to Wilson Free and Hal Pennington as a coach,

1227
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 13: and we'd played seventy some eighty games a year, and

1228
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 13: after the games in Silverton, we would go back to

1229
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:50,640
Speaker 13: Howe's house and have a cookout in that and he

1230
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 13: became my substitute father for me for.

1231
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 5: The next three years.

1232
01:08:57,160 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 13: And there's another thing on that. The two years I

1233
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:05,599
Speaker 13: played there, his short stuff for that team was little

1234
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:06,720
Speaker 13: Willie cutting here.

1235
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:09,520
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.

1236
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 13: Wlw And we went to the national finals my final

1237
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 13: year in Detroit, Michigan, and we're runner ups in Detroit.

1238
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 13: And Little Willy got in a little bit of trouble

1239
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:27,600
Speaker 13: at a hotel, something about throwing water balloons.

1240
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 2: Oh boy, hey, Jim, I love it. Thank you for

1241
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 2: sharing the story tonight. Thanks for listening tonight. Okay, thanks

1242
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:37,560
Speaker 2: for That's what I'm looking for. I'm looking for ideas

1243
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 2: and story shared and moments realized in Eastgate. Elizabeth, Welcome

1244
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 2: to Sports Talk.

1245
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 3: Yes, my dad was a World War One veteran. He

1246
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 3: was born in nineighteen ninety and then he got sent

1247
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 3: off to World War One and nearly got killed. The

1248
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 3: bomb went off and killed his buddy and he ended

1249
01:09:59,880 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 3: up He was a right sided team of plegic. He

1250
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 3: had traumantic brain injury, but a right sided him of plegic.

1251
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:11,599
Speaker 3: And I was born when he was forty eight years

1252
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 3: old and so this took place, I guess in the

1253
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 3: late forties. He used to set he had difficulty writing

1254
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:26,560
Speaker 3: and also speaking, and he used to sit on enclosed

1255
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 3: front porch and listen to I'm sure it was the

1256
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 3: Reds game, and he used to keep track of the

1257
01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 3: somehow the scores. I don't know, of course, I was

1258
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 3: just little. I don't know what he was doing with

1259
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 3: this big piece of plywood, but I think he was

1260
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 3: keeping the scores and he listened to the ballgame on

1261
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 3: this big old floor, a big old radio that set

1262
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 3: on the floor. It had like a dial on the

1263
01:10:57,280 --> 01:11:00,200
Speaker 3: front of it that looked like a radar screen. Yeah,

1264
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 3: that's memories of my dad. You know, I didn't get

1265
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 3: a chance to know to any athletic events in nineteen

1266
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 3: fifty three when he was sixty sixty years old.

1267
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 2: No, but what a memory you have to last forever.

1268
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 2: Thank you for sharing, Elizabeth, and enjoy your weekend.

1269
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 5: Right, thank you, thank you.

1270
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 2: There you go, you've got one. Let's round out two

1271
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 2: more and get you set up for Reds baseball in

1272
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 2: Wilmington and Springfield. Hey, Charlie, welcome to sports Talk.

1273
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 17: Hey, thanks taking calling night Lands. Hey, my memory I

1274
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 17: had a couple of them, but the one them will

1275
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 17: tell you. I got to go to the very last

1276
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 17: game at Yankee Stadium with my son. He was only

1277
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 17: in about the first grade at the time. He's like

1278
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 17: twenty six now so and actually my wife and her

1279
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:52,680
Speaker 17: friend and daughter went with us, and they dropped us

1280
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 17: off at the game, and it was pretty amazing, of course,

1281
01:11:56,560 --> 01:12:00,040
Speaker 17: you know, last game at a regular Yankee stadium. And

1282
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 17: I remember we went in through the gate and I

1283
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 17: seen they had a colliapy machine that was restored right

1284
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:09,639
Speaker 17: outside the gate, and I was like, oh, I should

1285
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:11,599
Speaker 17: have got a picture of that. And the usher looked

1286
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 17: around and said, come on back out here, I'll take

1287
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 17: a picture for you, and he took us back out

1288
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 17: of the gate, took the picture, and then we waited

1289
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:23,680
Speaker 17: in line for over two hours to go down to

1290
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 17: a monument park. That ended up it just didn't work

1291
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:28,839
Speaker 17: out because the lines were.

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Speaker 5: All wrapped throughout the ordinals and stuff.

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Speaker 17: But then the amazing part after the game, my wife

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01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 17: couldn't get nowhere near the stadium to pick us up

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01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 17: because they closed off all the streets. So I asked

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Speaker 17: a police officer, I said, can you tell me how

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Speaker 17: to get to this street. He's like, it's a few

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Speaker 17: blocks over. Just hey, go ahead and get in my

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01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 17: van here, and I'm just gonna take you guys there.

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01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 17: So he took us about three or four blocks over.

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01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,680
Speaker 17: You uh so my wife could pick us up. But

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01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 17: it was an amazing game, an amazing weekend. And then,

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01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 17: uh you know, my wife ended up getting a hold

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01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 17: of my brand new little digital camera I had and

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01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:15,680
Speaker 17: had my pictures blowed up and gave them to me

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01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 17: for my birthday. And it was a great time. Take

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01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 17: my call.

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Speaker 2: That's a good one.

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01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 5: Thank you that man.

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01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 2: You guys have hit the home runs today. Last one,

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01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 2: final word in Springfield. Hey, Mike, tell me a story.

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Speaker 19: I got a couple for you.

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Speaker 5: Yes.

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Speaker 19: The first one is my dad was thirty eight when

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01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 19: I was born. I'm the baby of seven boys. All

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01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:42,719
Speaker 19: of us played sports, but as you might.

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01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 5: Imagine, my dad had to work a lot. He worked

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01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 5: three jobs.

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01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 19: He was a policeman, he ran a record for my

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01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 19: uncle who owned a wrecking yard, and he worked extra

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01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:55,759
Speaker 19: jobs for the police department. You l a sporting events

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01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 19: or whatever. So my dad wasn't the time where we

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01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 19: were out playing around. Don't pass but I'll tell you

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01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 19: one thing when he showed up that my baseball games

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01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 19: are football games in his police uniform. You want to

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01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 19: talk about one crowd, kid, Yeah, with your.

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Speaker 5: Dad, the comp there, everybody.

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Speaker 19: Oh and and everybody liked my parents. They were they

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01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:23,639
Speaker 19: were great people and everything. But the second story kind

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01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:26,680
Speaker 19: of sad, but also it brings me a lot of

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01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 19: peace and joy. September eleventh, nineteen eighty five. Your story

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Speaker 19: with your dad, and my story was with my mom

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01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:40,040
Speaker 19: and dad. My mother was dying from colorectal cancer and

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01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:43,679
Speaker 19: we're sitting in front of the TV watching that ball

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01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:45,879
Speaker 19: game that night September eleventh.

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Speaker 5: My mom, my dad, and me and my mom.

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Speaker 19: Ended up dying six weeks later, and the three of

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01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 19: us sat there and watched that and there wasn't a

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01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 19: dry eye among us. We watched Pete Rose and break

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01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 19: the record.

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Speaker 9: And you know that was just yeah.

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Speaker 19: I mean, I'm sitting every time I see that reel

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01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 19: come up in my Facebook speed, I sit there and

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01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:10,799
Speaker 19: watch Pete.

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01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 2: Rose and listen to the whole you know, nine.

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01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:14,800
Speaker 19: Ten, twelve, whatever long it is.

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01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 5: I just remember that night with my mom and dad.

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01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 2: Oh man, those are two fantastic ones to close the

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01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:22,559
Speaker 2: night on. Thank you for sharing an injury weekend. All right,

1350
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:25,599
Speaker 2: have a good one, all right, thank you man, oh man,

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01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:28,639
Speaker 2: Holy god. That was that last one was emotional that

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01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:31,920
Speaker 2: I'm glad I did this time. We didn't have a

1353
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 2: whole hour, but we certainly made it work and you

1354
01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 2: took it and ran with it. So thank you. Those

1355
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:40,760
Speaker 2: were Those were some lights out stories. We'll head down

1356
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:42,639
Speaker 2: the stretch, put the wraps on and hand you off

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01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:45,720
Speaker 2: the Red's Baseball Ahead Rnel Carrier Sports Talk presented by

1358
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 2: Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred WLW.

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01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 7: All right down the.

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Speaker 2: Stretch we go. You know, the final one the night

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01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:04,800
Speaker 2: for me, me, my dad, Casey. We drove through the

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01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 2: night on a Friday night after Sports Talk end to Birmingham, Alabama.

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01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 2: I want to say for the two thousand and seven

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01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 2: Papa John's dot Com Bowl U see versus Southern Miss

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01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 2: in Birmingham, Alabama at Legion Field. You talk about a

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01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 2: wreck of a stadium, but I'll never forget. We got

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01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 2: into the hotel and we drove after the show at

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01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 2: like three in the morning. And the thing I will

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01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 2: remember most about that trip, and this what Casey would

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01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 2: have been seven. At this point, we got one of those,

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01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:34,799
Speaker 2: one of the baggage carriers at you know, the hotel

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01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 2: on wheels, and it's got the bar on top. And

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01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 2: three in the morning, we're loading our bags onto it

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01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:43,679
Speaker 2: and Casey gets on it and we push him and

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01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 2: he rides on it into the hotel lobby. And it's

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01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 2: three in the morning and we're dog tired, but he

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01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 2: had the laugh and the joy in his face riding

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01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 2: on the luggage rolling cart into the hotel at three

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01:16:57,479 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 2: in the morning in Birmingham, Alabama. We'll never forget and

1380
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:05,240
Speaker 2: that's why. And we sat in miserable conditions and watched

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01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 2: Ben Mock and the Bearcats and Brian Kelly win that game.

1382
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 2: But I will remember his laugh and giggle and excitement

1383
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 2: over that more than anything else on that trip.

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01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:13,599
Speaker 4: Uh.

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01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 2: Let's see what do I have to get out of

1386
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 2: here with this date. Well, a couple of things won

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01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 2: thirteen days away from Red's opening day. Dave Conceptio number thirteen.

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01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 2: There's only three players who wore thirteen in the history

1389
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 2: of the Reds. Dave Conceptsio, who I looked it up today.

1390
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 2: In the thirty four postseason games he played in, Dave

1391
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 2: Conceptsuo hit two ninety seven. He was a career two

1392
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 2: sixty seven hitter, hit thirty points higher in postseason games.

1393
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:42,760
Speaker 2: Eddie Pellegrini was an infielder for the Reds for one

1394
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 2: season in nineteen fifty two. He wore the number thirteen

1395
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 2: and Eddie Miller. Amazing story about Eddie Miller. He was

1396
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 2: an infielder, really good like one of the best shortstops

1397
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 2: of his era defensively nineteen thirty six to nineteen forty seven.

1398
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 2: In the forty seven season, he had thirty two doubles,

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01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 2: nineteen homers, eighty seven ribies, and he was traded to

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01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:07,640
Speaker 2: the Yankees for Willard Hirschberger, the catcher unfortunately ended up

1401
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 2: taking his life when he was with the Reds. The

1402
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:14,599
Speaker 2: Reds reacquired Eddie Miller in nineteen forty eight, and as

1403
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 2: the story goes, he was speaking at the Quarterback Club

1404
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 2: of Hamilton in nineteen forty eight and during his talk

1405
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:24,720
Speaker 2: told the audience that the Reds would be lucky to

1406
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 2: finish even tied for last in the division that year

1407
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:30,680
Speaker 2: in the National League, and that he liked Bill mckeckney,

1408
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:33,880
Speaker 2: the old manager, over the new manager, Jerry Noon, and

1409
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:36,720
Speaker 2: he thought the group of young players coming up with

1410
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:40,760
Speaker 2: the Reds would never really amount to anything. And you

1411
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 2: can imagine that didn't go well over well with the

1412
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:45,559
Speaker 2: Reds front office or ownership, and they asked him to

1413
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 2: retract it and take back and apologize, and he would

1414
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:50,320
Speaker 2: not do it, and they wind up trading him. And

1415
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 2: it all stemmed from comments made at the Quarterback Club

1416
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 2: of Hamilton in nineteen forty eight Eddie Miller. He wore

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01:18:57,200 --> 01:19:00,639
Speaker 2: the number thirteen for the Cincinnati Reds all right on

1418
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 2: this date nineteen forty eight. Kentucky beats Baylor for the

1419
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 2: National championship fifty eight forty two. In college basketball, nineteen

1420
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 2: fifty four, Bobby Thompson the Milwaukee Braves breaks his ankle

1421
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:17,919
Speaker 2: sliding into a base during spring training. The Braves replaced

1422
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 2: him with a rookie by the name of Henry Aaron

1423
01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:26,639
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty. The NFL Chicago Cardinals moved to Saint Louis

1424
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:31,559
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety eight. Never forget this. I'm a big fan

1425
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 2: of Bryce Drew. In the entire Drew family, Homer drew

1426
01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:39,000
Speaker 2: all of them. Bryce Drew hit the three pointer his

1427
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:44,520
Speaker 2: time expired to give Valpereiso a shocking upset of Mississippi

1428
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:47,680
Speaker 2: in the NCAA tournament. Little hook and ladder play through

1429
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 2: the past three quarters court. It was caught. Bryce Drew

1430
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 2: was trailing the pitch to him. He caught and let

1431
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 2: fly and he hit it and he slid head first

1432
01:19:57,400 --> 01:20:00,439
Speaker 2: onto the floor in celebration. And finally, this eight, two

1433
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 2: thousand and six, for the first time in franchise history,

1434
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 2: the Bengals have a Super Bowl MVP. When they signed

1435
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:12,760
Speaker 2: veteran free agents safety Dexter Jackson. The twenty nine year

1436
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 2: old had won a ring with Tampa Bay in Super

1437
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:19,840
Speaker 2: Bowl thirty seven. He would play three seasons in Cincinnati.

1438
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 2: There you go. It all happened on this date in

1439
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 2: sports history. All right, man, this was fun. I could

1440
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 2: have used the extra half hour tonight, but I do

1441
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:32,120
Speaker 2: I don't want to get in the way of Red's baseball.

1442
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:34,799
Speaker 2: It's coming up next. Thanks to Joe Wadell for producing.

1443
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 2: Thanks to you for making time on a Friday night.

1444
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:39,880
Speaker 2: What all I say, people to see, places to go,

1445
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:42,680
Speaker 2: things to do. You hung out with me means a

1446
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 2: lot to me. Have yourself a great weekend. Let's gather

1447
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 2: on Monday. We'll do three hours. I'm gonna check with

1448
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 2: Jeff Hobson and say, hey, I know I had to

1449
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:53,640
Speaker 2: cancel tonight. Could we do it on Monday? People have

1450
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 2: some Bengals conversation and much more. This has been rn

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01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 2: L Carrier Sports Talk Dinny by Kelsey Chavrol at seven

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Speaker 2: hundred w LW