1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 2: Paul, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Yeah, how can 3 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 2: I help you? 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 3: Yes, I was wondering if I'm going to see my 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 3: mother when when I die and go to heaven, and 6 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 3: I'm wondering if she's going to go to heaven. She 7 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 3: didn't follow your teachings, but she followed the Tank commandments. 8 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 3: She was born nineteen nineteen. And I don't know my wife. 9 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 3: She never followed your teachings. 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 2: What was she Jewish? Are you saying she's Jewish? Are 11 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 2: you saying that she just No, she didn't care much 12 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:40,959 Speaker 2: for religion at all. 13 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 3: She didn't really care much for her. She put us 14 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 3: in the when I was a little big, a little toddler, 15 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 3: she put us in the Bible school and stuff. And 16 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 3: I was raised in the Nazarene Church. 17 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: But what makes you think that she didn't believe? 18 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 3: Well, because I confronted her a couple of times. She 19 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,279 Speaker 3: goes here, I don't want to talk about it. 20 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: Well, I don't want to talk about it. Doesn't mean 21 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: she doesn't believe. She came right out and told you 22 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 2: she didn't believe. No, not really, Okay, Well, those situations 23 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 2: are between her and God. If she didn't proclaim it 24 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 2: to you, doesn't mean that she didn't proclaim it to somebody, 25 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 2: and doesn't mean that she didn't proclaim it to God. 26 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 2: It would be unusual to reject it in such a 27 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 2: way and then be open to God later. But there 28 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 2: there are moments within moments within moments that God has 29 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 2: with you that and everyone in humanity that aren't the same. 30 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 3: I thought it. You didn't profess or proclaim that you're 31 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 3: born again Christian, you're not going to go to heaven. 32 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: Well, it certainly is imperative to confess your faith absolutely 33 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: with your you know, with your life and with your 34 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: mouth and all of those good things. But how that 35 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: takes place, how that takes place, well, there's a lot 36 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: of things your mom said that you wouldn't, I'm sure, 37 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 2: And so you can't really know in those moments of 38 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: what was going on with your mother. So it's best 39 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 2: to leave that to God and to trust that God 40 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,679 Speaker 2: gave her ample amount of time to make things right 41 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 2: with him. Now, as far as you, if you are 42 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 2: a believer and you're a person of faith, and you're 43 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 2: going to heaven and your mother is there, there's no 44 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 2: reason why you wouldn't recognize her, or recognize each other, 45 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 2: or spend time with each other. There there's nothing in 46 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: scriptures as otherwise. As a matter of fact, in Samuel, 47 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 2: it talks about David knowing that when his son died, 48 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 2: his infant son died, that he was going to recognize 49 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: him or see him in heaven. So also there's you know, 50 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 2: some people will argue, yeah, well, what about with the 51 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 2: resurrected body. After I resurrected, some people didn't recognize me. 52 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 2: That was a different state under the circumstances first glorified 53 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: body that anybody had ever seen. But there's nothing in 54 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 2: scripture that says that you won't recognize or have time 55 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 2: and spend with your family from here. However, that's not 56 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: what heaven is about. You know, Heaven is about spending 57 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 2: time with God, the Father. That's the focus. That's what 58 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 2: it's going to be about. That's where you know, all 59 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: of everything that's happened on earth is going to come 60 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: to that one point where it may sound dull to some, 61 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 2: but it's going to be about worshiping God and spending 62 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: time with the Creator. That's going to be the focus 63 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 2: of heaven. So yeah, no reason that you wouldn't see 64 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: a loved one who is a believer. As far as 65 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: the confessing and all of these things, these are all 66 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 2: part of what it takes for those that know. Romans. 67 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 2: One talks about the difference between general revelation and special revelation. 68 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 2: That special revelation is scripture and someone coming and telling 69 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 2: you something, whereas general revelation is really in the creation itself. 70 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 2: If you look around, you can see the fingerprint of God. 71 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 2: The Library of Congress and the different things they have 72 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 2: on file and saved a way to preserve, some of 73 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 2: which are original handwritten music from Beethoven and Mozart and 74 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 2: the like. And they were doing this big study on 75 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 2: how you could look at Beethoven and how you people 76 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 2: tended to pick Beethoven in modern times with a disheveled 77 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 2: hair and kind of slightly unkept and always in a hurry, 78 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 2: kind of in a rush, not didn't seem very focused. 79 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 2: And sure enough, when you see his handwritten music notes, 80 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 2: there's ink, smudges and blotches, and you can tell it's 81 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 2: written very quickly, and there's a lot of things crossed out, 82 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 2: So obviously the mind was being changed a lot, and 83 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 2: that persona is almost seen in those very things that 84 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 2: he's writing. And then when you look at Mozart said 85 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 2: to be much more together and focus. Knew what he 86 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 2: want immediately and went for it and put it onto paper. 87 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 2: Everything was pristine and specific, with great focus. And it's 88 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 2: like looking at the art or the creation of someone. 89 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 2: You can see the artist in there. You have to 90 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 2: be able to so you can see the creator in there. 91 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 2: And likewise, if you are attentive to the things of 92 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 2: this world and you look around at creation, you can 93 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 2: see the hand of God in creation as well. You 94 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 2: can see those things. And that's a different type of 95 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 2: realization than somebody standing on a mountaintop saying I believe 96 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: in Jesus Christ, or they wear, you know, a special 97 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 2: bumper sticker or a hat or what have you. It's 98 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:55,799 Speaker 2: not just about those things. It's about professing with your 99 00:05:55,920 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 2: heart as well that Jesus's God and following me. That's 100 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 2: the key, and allowing the will of God to lead 101 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 2: your life. The confession is important. But if you, you know, 102 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 2: leave your wedding ring at home, it doesn't mean you 103 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 2: don't love your spouse, and it certainly doesn't mean that 104 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 2: you're not married. That's part of the whole process of 105 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 2: you know, that outward expression of that inward hope, that 106 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 2: inward goal. And those are two very different things and 107 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: they should not be confused as being one and the same. 108 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 2: They're part of it, but it's it's different. Kyle, Welcome 109 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 2: to Jesus Christ Show. 110 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 4: Hey, how's it going. 111 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 2: Good? 112 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 4: Question about the Sabbath. Now, you were a Jew, I'm 113 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 4: assuming grew up in a Jewish area to his families. 114 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 5: That correct? Indeed, okay, uh. 115 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 4: So the Jewish Sabbath is Friday sundown to Saturday sundown. 116 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 3: Yes. 117 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 4: Still we're told in the tour it's not that we're 118 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 4: not to work or have other people work or spend 119 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 4: money on the Sabbath. But typically what people do after 120 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 4: church they go out, they go out and work in 121 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 4: the yards, they go out and eat. Is that breaking 122 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 4: the Sabbath? 123 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: No, the Sabbath is one of those things that people 124 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 2: wrestle with because of its current context is different. Christians 125 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: don't worship on the Sabbath anymore. They worship on the 126 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 2: Lord's Day, which is Sunday. Sabbath still is on Saturday. 127 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 2: And really this rest in this concept was for the 128 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 2: Jewish people of the time. The Sabbath does not stand 129 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 2: in the same way in the same sense. That's why, 130 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 2: if you recall, it's the one commandment that I don't 131 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 2: quote over and over again. You can see in Colossians two, 132 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 2: sixteen and seventeen that things have changed and that people 133 00:07:55,400 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 2: were modern day Christians at the time, were having church 134 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: and coming together on many different days. The important thing 135 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 2: is to have time of rest and worship, and it's 136 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 2: much different. The days were much longer than too. It 137 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 2: wasn't like an eight hour work day. They were much 138 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 2: longer work days. There's a lot that has changed that 139 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: allows for more rest or more normal rest that didn't 140 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 2: exist back then. To boot Carol, Welcome to the Jesus 141 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 2: Christ Show. 142 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 6: Hi, thank you for taking my call, my pleasure. I 143 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 6: was just curious, why does Easter fall on such different times, 144 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 6: Like sometimes it's the end of March and then it's 145 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 6: the end of April. 146 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an odd one, isn't it. 147 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 6: Yes? 148 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 2: Okay, so well, here's what's known from scripture. You have 149 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 2: the four Gospels make it very clear that I was 150 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 2: crucified in conjunction with the Jewish passover, right you've got 151 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 2: Matthew talks about this, Mark talks about it, Luke talks 152 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 2: about it, and so does John. The gospels also make 153 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 2: it clear that I was raised from the dead three 154 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 2: days later on the first day of the week. Matthew, Mark, Luke, 155 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: and John also talk about that. So that's the first 156 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 2: notion of what's taking place now. As far as it's 157 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 2: being celebrated, that's of great importance, and so Christians wanted 158 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 2: to make a big deal about it. It's obviously an 159 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 2: important day. It's the most pivotal part of Christianity is 160 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 2: the resurrection. So church history comes around and tries to 161 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 2: make a date, and tons of debate starts taking place 162 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 2: as to when Easter is going to be observed. Even 163 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 2: to this day, even with as crazy as that sounds, 164 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 2: that it keeps changing around that the Eastern Orthodox Church 165 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 2: still celebrates it differently and sometimes on the same date, 166 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 2: sometimes differently. So basically, what it comes down to, and 167 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 2: it's a very an incredibly long answer that I'm trying 168 00:09:59,960 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 2: to to make short, is that it comes down to 169 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 2: different calendars, usage of different calendars based on the moon, 170 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 2: full moon, and all of these things. It just depends 171 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: on which calendar is being used, and then you get 172 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 2: certain councils that come in throughout the centuries that say, Okay, 173 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 2: this is when we're going to do it, and it's 174 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 2: going to be based on this calendar, and this is 175 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 2: when we're going to do it, and it's based on 176 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 2: this calendar, and it kind of just makes a mess 177 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 2: of it all. So you get one going by the 178 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 2: Gregorian calendar and other going by the Julian calendar. There 179 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 2: was some usage early on of the Hebrew calendar. There's 180 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 2: some that state that the Paschal full moon is the 181 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 2: actual date used, and that's a whole different measurement, and 182 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 2: so it just gets kind of convoluted and twisted and 183 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 2: bounces around. Is the short answer is that bounces around 184 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 2: based on the calendar that's being used, and they really 185 00:10:55,960 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: tried to establish early on. Some of the the movement 186 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 2: about the date was dealing with the early Church trying 187 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 2: to christianize certain pagan festivals. So early on it was 188 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 2: kind of following the first full moon after the vernal 189 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 2: or the spring equinox, and then after three twenty five 190 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 2: AD that changed, and there's it's just a whole bunch 191 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 2: of stuff. It talk about church, bureaucracy, just a lot 192 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 2: of stuff that came in and so it bounces around. 193 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 2: So having said all that, the most important part is 194 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 2: that it's celebrated, not exactly which day or anything like that. 195 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 2: The only thing that stays the same is that it's 196 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 2: going to be celebrated on the Lord's Day on a Sunday, 197 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 2: and that's that's the most important part. So I know, 198 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 2: it gets convoluted and confusing, and it's one of those 199 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 2: things that it's it's been made unnecessarily convoluted and confusing. 200 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 2: It doesn't need to be that bad, but you know, 201 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 2: beat you put people in charge sometimes of doing a 202 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 2: simple task and they make it even more complicated. Go figure, Leanne. 203 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. 204 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 7: Hi, Jesus, I have a situation that has happened to 205 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,839 Speaker 7: me several times, and I want to know if I'm 206 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 7: handling it in the proper way. What it is is, 207 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 7: sometimes when I'm praying to You and I'm giving thanks, 208 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 7: the most blasphemous thoughts will come into my mind as 209 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 7: if to interrupt me from praying to you, you know, 210 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 7: and giving my thanks. Sure, and I'm you know, I 211 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 7: am God fearing and I know that we have to 212 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 7: account for everything. So that's what makes me even more uneasy. 213 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 7: And what I what I have done, and I don't 214 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 7: know if I'm doing the right thing is I will 215 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 7: in your name. I will rebuke those evil thoughts and 216 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 7: I cast them out in your name, and I ask 217 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 7: for forgiveness. And I ask that because I don't feel 218 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 7: those thoughts your mind. And it kind of scares me. 219 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 2: Well, sounds good to me. Sounds like you're covering your bases. 220 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 2: And of course, of course the enemy is like a 221 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 2: child and wanting to you know, I'm not touching you. 222 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 2: I'm not touching you. I'm not touching you, and distracts 223 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 2: you throughout these you know, the entirety of it. 224 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 3: Of course, it's just. 225 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 7: So horrible, and I mean, it gives me a sick feeling. 226 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 7: But I, like you say, I'm trying to do the 227 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 7: best I can because I don't know where those thoughts 228 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 7: are coming from. I mean, I have there's absolutely no 229 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 7: reason for those things to come up, because you have 230 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 7: blessed me in so many ways. It's got me through 231 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 7: so much. I thank God for you. 232 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 2: You know, Well, there's a lot, there's a lot of 233 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 2: things in this world in the and the brain is 234 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 2: a bit of a dumping ground, and Scripture talks about 235 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 2: girting it and taking control of it. And you know 236 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 2: there's times you know, of good godly meditation too, not 237 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 2: the metaphysical garbage or any of those things, but the 238 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 2: good godly meditation about thinking about the things of God 239 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 2: and spending time with God being quiet. You know, there's 240 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 2: a scripture that says to be still and know that 241 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 2: I'm God, and to have these times of kind of cleansing. 242 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 2: And when you go into your little prayer closet, you know, 243 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 2: not physically but emotionally, and you spend that time with 244 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 2: God and spiritually you're connecting with God and those things 245 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 2: pop in. It's just it's just garbage. It's like spiritual 246 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 2: static or snow like on the TV. Just stuff's going 247 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 2: to come in and out, and you know, you smile 248 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 2: and praise God through it and continue. God's hearing what 249 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 2: you have to say. And that's just part of humanity 250 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 2: and the enemy poking around and the enemy can't stand 251 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 2: when you pray, can't stand it. 252 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 7: You're absolutely right, because it's happened. It's like the more 253 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 7: loving I am and express saying my prayers to you, 254 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 7: the more it seems to happen, and it's it's awful. 255 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 2: Oh, it's a if you look at two small children 256 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 2: that are siblings and if one's getting love from a parent, 257 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 2: oh goodness, and you see that kind of they come 258 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 2: over and they'll push or they're pinch or they'll start 259 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 2: doing something to get attention. 260 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 7: Exactly. It's like, and I know it that I feel 261 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 7: that the enemy is so jealous of. 262 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 2: You, absolutely absolutely, and that's not it's not going to 263 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 2: win him any points. And he tries to confuse you 264 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 2: and you get those those feelings and you're the pity 265 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 2: of your tummy, and you know you need to put 266 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 2: that aside and not give him any of that power. 267 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 7: It's exactly. And I say, I say, all evil thoughts 268 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 7: are all negative thoughts that are that are not in 269 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 7: obedience to Christ. 270 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 5: I cast out. 271 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so we want to. 272 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 7: Make sure, like I said, I'm God fearing and I 273 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 7: wouldn't want, you know, to be sent to eternal. 274 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 2: You know, it's not like a technicality. Everybody makes, uh 275 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 2: the ward of heaven or the so called punishment of 276 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 2: hell to be a technicality as if you know you 277 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 2: serve some anal retentive God who's got a list of 278 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 2: shoulds and should not and it's just like, sorry, you know, 279 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 2: this is the way it's supposed to be done. And 280 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 2: it's not really a fair assessment of how God works. 281 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 2: It's not about knowing or not knowing, or making mistakes 282 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 2: or any of these things. It's about open rebellion and 283 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 2: rejection of the will of God. And they're two different things. 284 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 2: And you know, there's gonna be stuff that slips in 285 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 2: your life, or you know, things that are kind of 286 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 2: trying to knock you off your spiritual horse, and you 287 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 2: just need to hold on and praise God through the 288 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 2: entirety of it. And there's nothing the devil hates more 289 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 2: than you when you're steadfast. Scripture says, resists the devil 290 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 2: and he shall flee. And part of that resisting is 291 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 2: just focusing on God all the more, focusing on God 292 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 2: as not to get you know, swept away into you know, 293 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 2: the tricks of the enemy trying to get your attention 294 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 2: in all those things. Just stay focused, Stay focused, Stay focused. Rick, 295 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. 296 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 5: I'm going to find I was I'm gonna say a 297 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 5: few things, and then I'll just take my answer off there, 298 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 5: if you don't mind. Sure, I was reading in Revelations 299 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 5: about the Great Harlet and she was drunk with the 300 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 5: blood of the saints, and then reading about false prophets, 301 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 5: one of which you are because you are not Jesus Christ, 302 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 5: and I think misleading people to even portray the your 303 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 5: Jesus Christ. The Bible clearly states, so we're the stone 304 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 5: false prophets, and you coming in saying that you're Jesus 305 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 5: Christ and even portraying them, I think it is a 306 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 5: great sin. I'd like to hear your answer to that 307 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 5: in public. 308 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 2: Sure, I've said it many many times. This is a 309 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 2: wonderful place for it. Of course, Rick is similar fellow 310 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 2: who stands up in the middle of a play and says, 311 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 2: wait a second, these aren't big cats. These are human 312 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 2: beings pretending to be cats, which makes it a little 313 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 2: less fun for everyone else. But I will tell you 314 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 2: answering the question, that there are many people that portray, 315 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 2: with good reason and good intent others throughout history to 316 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 2: put flesh on the bones of those that a lot 317 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 2: of people don't understand. I'm thinking of maybe a history 318 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 2: teacher that dresses up like Abe Lincoln or Ben Franken 319 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 2: to help someone understand the true nature of these individuals. 320 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 2: If it makes you feel better. There are some that 321 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 2: may describe this type of thing, he says with a 322 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 2: wink as responding to the questions of what would Jesus do? 323 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 2: Maybe that might help you a little bit. But I 324 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 2: will tell you this, there is no reason ever to 325 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 2: lie to get on the air. If you have a 326 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 2: legitimate question, then ask it, or Heaven forbid, sit behind 327 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 2: that magic box that glows every night in that bedroom 328 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 2: that you call a computer and google it. But don't 329 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 2: stand on a soapbox thinking that you're better than everyone 330 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 2: else who actually understands the process and gets it in 331 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 2: totality and plays along that somehow you're going to break 332 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 2: some new information blasphemous, not even close. Wouldn't participate in 333 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 2: it if it was a different way of sharing old 334 00:19:49,520 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 2: important information. Well just maybe I don't know why I 335 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 2: feel lad to talk about this right now, and I 336 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 2: will get to more of your calls. But in Matthew, 337 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 2: this is one of those verses that tends to come up. 338 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 2: Who a guest comes up when people talk about this 339 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 2: show and others about the possibility of false Christs, and 340 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 2: scripture does warn that there will be those that come 341 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 2: saying that they are the Christ. And I just want 342 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 2: to tell you that that is not that's not someone 343 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 2: portraying Christ. It's not somebody in a movie, in a play, 344 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 2: anything like that, or heaven forbid a radio show that 345 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 2: is really talking about someone saying that person Jesus from 346 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 2: Nazareth that you heard about is not the Messiah. I 347 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 2: am now build the Christ. That's a different situation. That's 348 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 2: about someone trying to steal the Christ. Moniker. There were 349 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 2: many people in my day that walked around saying the 350 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 2: same thing. That's why a lot of people didn't believe me, 351 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 2: because on every street corner you had someone else proclaiming 352 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 2: to be God for whatever reason. Oh I could do this, 353 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 2: or I can do that. That's why the miracles were 354 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 2: so important in context. Even though there were some that 355 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 2: were trying to mimic miracles as well, and we're doing 356 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:44,719 Speaker 2: a good job of it. Some miracles weren't just party favors. 357 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 2: They weren't something just to get attention. They were to 358 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 2: solidify what I was trying to teach. So those that 359 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 2: worry about oh, there's going to be false Christ. It's 360 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 2: going to be different. It's going to be someone claiming 361 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,239 Speaker 2: that they really are the Christ and that I was 362 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 2: just a manifestation at the time or something like that, 363 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 2: and twisting and turning it all around completely different. But 364 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 2: you know what, show yourself approved study a little bit, 365 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 2: see where there's actually a threat. Christians can be a 366 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 2: fascinating group of people. The only people on the planet 367 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 2: that tend to shoot. They're wounded and really causes for 368 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:29,239 Speaker 2: a problem when you're trying to defend yourself against a 369 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 2: decaying world that wants nothing more than Christianity to lose. 370 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 2: And if that's their will, fine, but for the love 371 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 2: of all that is good in Heaven, don't help them out. 372 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 2: Deb Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. 373 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 6: Hello, I. 374 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 2: Am well, how are you well? 375 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: First of all, I want to tell you I'd like 376 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: you to tell Neil he's doing wonderful job. 377 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 2: Oh boy, it might go to his head. 378 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, but we'll keep it between us encouragement. 379 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 2: That is so very true. I will pass that alone. 380 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: Thank you. I wanted to ask you when I got saved. 381 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: It was a euphoric experience. I ended up I got 382 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: saved on Battery Street. You know that makes me feel 383 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: you've got a sense of humor there. And also uh 384 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: then then at the at the time, my friend was 385 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: was witnessing to me, and I finally, you know, gave 386 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: my my heart over and she went running down this 387 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: hill and I went running down too, and it just 388 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: had this total euphoric feeling. And I asked her what 389 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: it was, and she said it was God's love. And 390 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: I've talked to before dead have said they never had 391 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: any kind of feeling like that, so they kind of 392 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: discounted it, and so it was just an emotional whatever, 393 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: And I truly think it was it was, you know, 394 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: God opening up my heart and coming in and that 395 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: it was a supernatural experience. 396 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 2: What do you think it could very well be. One 397 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 2: thing that we will never ever do on this show 398 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 2: is argue someone's experience. You just can't. You were there, 399 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 2: We weren't, And there's no way to really wrestle around that. However, 400 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 2: there are some things, some great tools that I like 401 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 2: people to use when it comes to these things. Feelings 402 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:48,719 Speaker 2: can are Feelings can really mislead you, and so they 403 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 2: should only be used objective and subjective feelings should only 404 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 2: be used together. And that is to say, as my 405 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 2: producer Neil speaking of well, we won't say the devil, 406 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 2: but speaking of Neil, he often jokes about how the 407 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 2: feeling he gets when he falls in love, although he 408 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 2: won't be doing that anymore, being buried at all, but 409 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 2: the feeling he gets falling in love is similar to 410 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 2: the feeling he gets when he seesick clammy hands and 411 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 2: the queasy stomach and all those things. So you have 412 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 2: to look at the situation. Is he sitting across the 413 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 2: table from his beautiful wife, then it's love. Is he 414 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 2: sitting across a boat, a fishing boat with a bunch 415 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 2: of sweaty guys, probably not love. So you can balance 416 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 2: out your experiences by way of those things going on 417 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 2: that surround you as well. Absolutely those things take place, 418 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 2: that they do take place, and there are euphoric feelings, 419 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 2: and there are very wonderful experiences that go with some 420 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 2: people and their faith. But also know this, like a 421 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 2: dog whistle or certain sounds, there are some people that 422 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 2: are more sensitive to them than others, and there are 423 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 2: some people who it is not in their makeup to 424 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 2: really kind of experience those things. They may, they may 425 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 2: much later in life, or they may for certain specific reasons, 426 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 2: but you never ever know, and you might just be 427 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 2: someone who's a little more open to those things and 428 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 2: a little more susceptible. But it doesn't make it wrong 429 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 2: or false or any of those things. Don't let someone 430 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 2: try and take it away from you either. There are 431 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:32,199 Speaker 2: many experiences in scripture where people had euphoric feelings, but 432 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 2: even the enemy, the devil himself, is a counterfeit and 433 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 2: can recreate these types of things. So never use just 434 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 2: the feeling to be the judgment of if you're doing 435 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 2: something good or doing something bad, or if it's of God, 436 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 2: if it's not of God. It needs to be surrounded 437 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 2: by other things. And the description you gave me of 438 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 2: when that feeling or that euphoric onset came about, sounds 439 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 2: like the perfect case for a God give an experience, 440 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 2: doesn't it? Yeah, it does. It feels like that. That's 441 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 2: the setting in which God would use something like that. 442 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 2: Now I hear, you know, other things at times where 443 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 2: people say, oh, but I did this in that, and 444 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 2: you go, that has nothing to do with God. As 445 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 2: a matter of fact, there are parts of scripture that 446 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 2: denounced that very uh, you know, situation, and yet you're 447 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 2: trying to tell me that it's of God. Or someone 448 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 2: says that they were visited by an angel, yet that 449 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 2: angel has nothing to say except things that are completely 450 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 2: antithetical to scripture. Then you can pretty much throw it 451 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 2: away and throw the experience away. But what you describe 452 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 2: sounds to me like good old God touching your heart. 453 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 1: KFI AM six forty on demand