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Speaker 1: It's your radio home of the Pittsburgh Steelers one or

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Speaker 1: two point five DVE. If there's any play that embodies

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Speaker 1: the dynamic in the Steelers Ravens rivalry, it might be

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Speaker 1: this one from twoenty ten and it's an incomplete pass.

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Speaker 2: Ben, Oh my goodness, and Ben, what side on him pass?

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Speaker 3: Because Suggs was all over him.

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Speaker 4: That is one of the great plays I have seen

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Speaker 4: in a long time. Suggs is going after the ball.

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Speaker 4: He's going for the strip instead of the sack. Here

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Speaker 4: trying to knock it out, grabbing everything it can, trying

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Speaker 4: to get the ball. Roethlisberger escapes, lips it out of there,

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Speaker 4: and saves himself about seven yards on the play. What

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Speaker 4: a play by.

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Speaker 1: Roethlisberger joining us right now, the guy who made that play,

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Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger, Ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 3: So man, I'll tell you what I can remember for

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Speaker 3: some weird plays, making a tackle, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, shoe string tackles, incomplete passes, No, but that one, really,

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Speaker 1: I mean the respect between you and Suggs after that,

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Speaker 1: because he's talking about that play too. That play showed

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Speaker 1: the battle level that this rivalry used to inspires the gun.

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Speaker 5: If you got to pick one play for Steelers Raves.

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Speaker 2: Well, the hit on mcgay he uh you know now,

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Speaker 2: but the point is that each side has had its moments.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but that was yeah, that was like the both

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Speaker 3: Yeah, ever just going out. Yeah, you're right, Mike. I

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Speaker 3: mean there's like there's like five plays you know that

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Speaker 3: like that would from my you know, eighteen years of

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Speaker 3: you know, there there's very few times that there's like, uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, you think about that Robert, like how many

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Speaker 3: times was it a blowout? You know? It just I

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Speaker 3: can think of one time where we went through a

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Speaker 3: bunch of touchdowns on him at home. That was a

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Speaker 3: lot of fun. I think of ab reaching the ball

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Speaker 3: over the ball line. I think was that Christmas Man?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was extension.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, like like probably not the smartest play on

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Speaker 3: our part, you know, but it might work. Yeah, that

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Speaker 3: because I remember after that play, like I remember him

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Speaker 3: looking at me just being like like totally dejected, like

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Speaker 3: I'm just trying to live, but just trying to live

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Speaker 3: you told me a.

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Speaker 5: While back that was one of your favorite plays, right,

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Speaker 5: is it.

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Speaker 3: Still it is? No, It truly is because and again

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Speaker 3: for the most unique of reasons. But if I think

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Speaker 3: at that point happens with any other player or any

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Speaker 3: other team, it probably goes down as like a whatever.

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Speaker 3: But because that rivalry that it's him, how good he?

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Speaker 3: I mean, just all the all the factors that went

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Speaker 3: into it make that play that much more special, you

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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: But the difference, you know, you talked about this on

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Speaker 1: your podcast a couple of weeks ago, the difference in

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Speaker 1: the rivalry and the AFC North between Ravens, Bengals, and Browns,

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Speaker 1: they're all unique.

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Speaker 3: Right, Well yeah, I mean, well start with the Browns.

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Speaker 3: That's not really robbery.

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Speaker 1: The Bengals one cards from them.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely all the time. They asked me about naming the

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Speaker 3: but I'm going to get hurt because it's just good

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Speaker 3: old fashioned football, and you're like, you know what, when

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Speaker 3: because it's just it's just smashed mouth football. And it was.

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Speaker 3: It was and this sounds really weird, but it was fun.

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Speaker 1: The Yeah, you know, That's how I feel about Lamar

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Speaker 3: I know. That's a big difference, you know.

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Speaker 1: But I'm just approaching it like another game. Is it

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Speaker 1: the the intensity of this matchup?

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Speaker 1: You and is it the same?

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Speaker 3: Is it the same? That's what I was gonna say,

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Speaker 3: mean it wasn't too often either that both teams going

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Speaker 1: What about the actual playing in Baltimore aspect of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Ben Roethlisberger with us right now. Steelers Ravens this Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has that left for a situation that made

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Speaker 1: it clearly hurt them last week. Is that something that

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Speaker 3: Well, I knew on the first play last week when

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Speaker 5: But just from a philosophical standpoint, how do you straddle

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Speaker 3: I mean, I've been in both situations obviously. Sometimes when

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Speaker 3: And I've had guys like that. I've I've had the

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Speaker 5: And how open do they have to be or do

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Speaker 3: They don't, they don't need to be open. I mean,

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Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, not being here in the summer might

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Speaker 3: Blows my mind. It's I I don't I don't get it.

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Speaker 3: But but it blows my mind that you're not using

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Speaker 3: unquote number two. Now, I'm not trying to take anything

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Speaker 3: but Pat Fryman. Your tight end can be a number two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Ben Roethlisberger talking Steels Ravens at Sunday one o'clock

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Speaker 1: kickoff at the M and T Bank Stadium. Ben, thanks

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Speaker 1: for making time for us today. Man, we greatly appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: Have time for one more question.

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Speaker 3: It depends on what it is. It doesn't get well,

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Speaker 3: what is it, Mike?

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Speaker 5: I was just curious.

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Speaker 3: No, we don't.

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Speaker 1: Smart, But who's.

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Speaker 5: Gonna end up being the pet State coach?

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Speaker 3: I'm curious. I don't know. We'll have to wait to see. It.

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Speaker 3: Seems like no one wants to go.

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Speaker 1: I think that's what Crawford les to do. He's going

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, hey, everyone's throwing their name in the half

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Speaker 1: I never thought in a million years that Penn State

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Speaker 3: And I think it's Miamuel I would get coaches easier

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but I think it's circumstantial, just because everybody

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Speaker 3: Do you think it hurts Penn State? Do you think

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Speaker 3: it hurts Penn State though that they made like an

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Speaker 3: a guy with a name. That's because that's what I'm saying, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I know at some point, I know, but at some

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Speaker 3: now you don't have anybody.

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Speaker 5: If to get an atmosphere that exists now was the

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Speaker 5: able to HIO a couple of years. How much money

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Speaker 5: would you have made to go to USC or Oregon

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. I don't even want to think

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Speaker 1: Been in Pittsburgh, right exactly.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's ridiculous the way this thing is.

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't understand it.

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Speaker 1: Hey man, thanks for making time for us today.

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Speaker 3: I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: All right, man, check out the Football and Podcast with

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Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger.

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Speaker 3: How something just shut up? My god? Thanks Ben,