1 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: A lot of Steelers ex Steelers have posted support for Porter. 2 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 2: On Instagram and whatnot. 3 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph Patrick Queen who never played with Ben, Talamata 4 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: Kaevich who cares what he thinks, Mike Mitchell, who was 5 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: a bigger douchebag than anybody maybe ever. Zach Banner, who's 6 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: just a fat, workless lump who never made it so uh, but. 7 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 2: The role call is being called. 8 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: Joining me now to talk further from the posts that 9 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: he's calling this Paul's Ice. Paul, what's your take on 10 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: Porter's attack on Ben? It was pretty stiff, wasn't it. 11 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 3: Well, Yeah, and you know, I think that it's kind 12 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 3: of hilarious to me that Porter basically did exactly what 13 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 3: he accused Ben of doing. And you know, I think 14 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 3: the thing about Joey Porter is I would love to 15 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 3: see where the bodies are buried in his career and 16 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 3: how much the Steelers had to protect him, and how 17 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 3: many times the Steelers protected him from himself and from 18 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 3: his mouth and from everything else he does. So that 19 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 3: man said, I don't think he's wrong from the standpoint 20 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 3: of you know, I've talked to enough ex players and 21 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 3: players over the years to know that Ben wasn't the 22 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 3: most popular guy in that locker room. He never really was. 23 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 3: And I don't know that he really cared to me, 24 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 3: to be honest. I think he just wanted to basically 25 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 3: try and win football games and go home. And so 26 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 3: I think when you make when you make accusations that 27 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 3: a guy's a bad teammate, I would like to know 28 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 3: like more examples of that, because you know, it depends 29 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 3: on what you mean by bad teammate. 30 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: I thought the most egregious thing he did, though Paul 31 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: was saying that the Steelers cup for him, it's like 32 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: you acqu's been a rape. And in every story we're 33 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: seeing now about what Porter said, Millangeville and Tahoe are 34 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: front and center, right. 35 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 3: But the thing about it is, I don't know that 36 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 3: they really covered up those things. I mean we kind 37 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 3: of they got out in their public and everybody knew. 38 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 3: And you know, I think that one of those things 39 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 3: mark where you know, I feel like it's it's a 40 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 3: situation with Ben where they probably would you know, when 41 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 3: he's talking about covering up or protecting every whatever, probably 42 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 3: more so stuff that he did in the locker room 43 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 3: or maybe some you know, stuff he did. It was 44 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 3: detrimental to his teammates or even the team, you know. 45 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 3: I mean, I just feel like, if you're an organization, 46 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 3: there's probably a little bit of covering up and hiding 47 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 3: stuff you have to do for all of your best 48 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 3: players on some level, just from the standpoint of uh, 49 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 3: you know, these all these are all corporations. They want 50 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 3: it to be buttoned up, one big, happy family. 51 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it clearly the Steelers are not that. 52 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: Even though this isn't directly connected to the current team, 53 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: it's still the Steelers logo being dragged into disrepute. 54 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 2: And this is really bad for Ben. I just mentioned what's. 55 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: Being brought up in the wake Tahoe and Millageville, and 56 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: like you said, the fact that Porter didn't give example 57 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: somehow seems more damning. And Ben's up for the Hall 58 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: of Fame next year and this can't help that as 59 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: he tries to get in on the first ballot. 60 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's that's probably one of those things 61 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 3: where this is going to probably have an effect on 62 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 3: his Hall of Fame. And I think, you know what, 63 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 3: I mean, we're probably naive Mark into thinking that Millageville 64 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 3: and Tahoe weren't already on the minds of some of 65 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 3: these voters who have proven time and time again that 66 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 3: they are you know, that they really believe they are 67 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 3: the arbiters of morality. 68 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 2: Well right, but this relights the fuse, is my point. 69 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 3: Exactly, it does, you know what I mean? There's no question. 70 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 3: I mean, I think, honestly, if you look at Ben's case, 71 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 3: I would hope that Ben would be a first ballance 72 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 3: Hall of Famer. But I disagree with some people who 73 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 3: think it's guaranteed or it's definitely going to happen, because 74 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 3: I think there are enough voters out there that don't 75 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 3: like Ben, that never liked Ben andre you know, and 76 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 3: this basically is just gonna fuel their fire even a 77 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 3: little bit more. 78 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 1: Here's another thing I don't get. This was on Cam's podcast. 79 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: Why would he let that air? Why wouldn't you edit 80 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: that out? 81 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 2: And is he telling us what he thinks of been 82 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 2: by letting it air? 83 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 3: Well? Yeah, absolutely, there was no question. I think there's 84 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 3: no question that Cam. If Cam didn't sign off on 85 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 3: that and believe in that or believe that that's to 86 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 3: be the case or whatever, Yeah, he wouldn't have let 87 00:04:58,160 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 3: that air. 88 00:04:58,440 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 4: There's no question he would. 89 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 3: He would have edited it out, you know, and it 90 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 3: would have been died on the floor. Instead. It's making 91 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 3: its rounds as like a promo for the show. You know. 92 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 3: Part of that is, you know, Cam apparently. 93 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 4: Is pretty good at understanding what is gonna you. 94 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 3: Know, drive traffic to a show. Something inplammatory like that. 95 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 3: I would have to imagine the rest of the show 96 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 3: is probably pretty innocuous. 97 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: Why is Cam even concerned about a podcast? Why does 98 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: he have one? It can't contribute that much financially to him. 99 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: We've all heard him talk He's going nowhere in this business. 100 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: I just don't get any of it. 101 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 3: Mark, I heard you earlier today. I think maybe our 102 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 3: DV in the morning show. 103 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 4: I think it made today or yesterday. 104 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 3: You said it better than anybody. 105 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 4: Who's ever said it, And that is we. 106 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 3: Really need to get to a point where we take 107 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 3: these microphones away from some of these people, these these 108 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 3: athletes and these ex athletes by the same token, you 109 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 3: know what. It gives them the opportunity they can say 110 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 3: whatever the hell they want to say without having to 111 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,799 Speaker 3: worry about, you know, going through media relations and going 112 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 3: through you know, cleansing that goes on when you're talking 113 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 3: to the press and going through the filter of you know, 114 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 3: the press, they can say whatever they want to say. 115 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 3: They get their message out. What they don't understand is, 116 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 3: you know that old adage, mark, it's better to be 117 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 3: it's not gonna keep your mouth shut and be fond 118 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 3: of as a fool than open it and remove all doubt. Well, 119 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 3: I think a lot of these what what what he 120 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 3: was found with a lot of these athletes podcast is 121 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 3: they probably should have just kept their mouth shut. Yeah. 122 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: I I just don't see any upside to Cam doing this. 123 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: And like I said, I think I told a story 124 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: about what he thinks about Ben And did Cam criticize 125 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: James Harrison. 126 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: I've seen that mention, but I haven't heard any sound. 127 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 2: And if he did, he should have because James Harrison 128 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 2: with his podcast has caused four more problems than Ben. 129 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 3: Right. They did, I know, Joey Porter did he. I 130 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 3: didn't see that anywhere else. Joey Porter did and he 131 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 3: basically said that it's disrespectful for James Harrison to rip 132 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 3: or criticize Mike Tomand because Mike Toland made his career, Uh, 133 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 3: you know, Bill Kaher caught him two or three times. 134 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,239 Speaker 3: He wasn't a guy going anywhere until Mike Tomlin came along. 135 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 3: And Mike Tollin's been a guy who you know, was 136 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 3: his big fan. He said, you know when when Mike 137 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 3: Tomland arrived, he was James Harrison and then he became demo, 138 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 3: So like, why would he be upset about you know, 139 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 3: why would he ripped? He criticized the man that basically 140 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 3: made his career, got him fifty million dollars, YadA, YadA. 141 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, but what Harrison says about Tomlin's accurate. I mean, again, 142 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: these guys don't get that when they pick up that mic, 143 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: they stopped being players. 144 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 2: But you know what, why would they think that Pat 145 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 2: McAfee thinks. 146 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,119 Speaker 1: He's still a player and he wasn't even a player. 147 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: He was only a punter, right exactly. 148 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 3: And I think when you look at it from that standpoint, mark, 149 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 3: you know, I think some again, some of these guys 150 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 3: don't realize how dumb they sound when they actually go 151 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 3: there and talk. I think Joey Porter does because that's 152 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 3: his stick, you know what I mean, And he likes 153 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 3: to be bombastic and all that other stuff. But to me, 154 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like, is there going to be 155 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 3: now a response. I'm pretty sure that James Harrison will 156 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 3: have a response because he has in the past when 157 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 3: you know, guys have ripped him. But you know, I 158 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 3: don't know what. I don't know how bad it's going 159 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 3: to handle this, because then you should let it go. 160 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: Ben should let the news cycle die out. 161 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 3: Ben should let it go for two reasons. One, uh, 162 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 3: you know, because of what you talked about, what keeps 163 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 3: getting brought up is not good for him. But here's 164 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 3: the other thing. Joey Porter is somebody wrungs beneath Ben. 165 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 3: Why respond to that guy? 166 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 2: I agree, Paul. 167 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: I want to talk a little bit in the time 168 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: we have left about Andrew mc what's your take on 169 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: that situation, the rift between him and the Pirates and 170 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: who's the fault for the bad feeling. 171 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing, and this is typical Pirates Okay. 172 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 3: If they had made it very clear last year was 173 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 3: going to be Andrew McCutcheon's last year, like the Steelers 174 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 3: did with Ben, there was no question you It was like, listen, Ben, 175 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 3: this is it. We're not signing again next year, this 176 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 3: is it, so you know, making a farewell tour, and 177 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 3: the Pirates had done that you know, he probably wouldn't 178 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 3: be sitting here. I mean is that Andrew mcatingam Ben 179 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 3: wasn't exactly ecstatic about it. 180 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 4: He didn't like it. 181 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 3: If you listened to his podcast at all, you know, 182 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 3: he took some shots at Colburn the company, you know, 183 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 3: for basically you know, ending against career early, like he 184 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 3: felt like he still had more to give. All these 185 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 3: athletes do that. But at least if you do. 186 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 2: It that way right, then you know, you. 187 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 3: Can basically kind of go into the transition of where 188 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 3: the guy gets retired. And you know, even though he's 189 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 3: not extat and happy about it, he at least feels 190 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 3: like he was treated the right way. That's where the 191 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 3: Pirates made their mistake. Now, unfortunately to me, they could 192 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 3: have rectified it a little bit in the offseason, but 193 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 3: they didn't. And you know, now Andrew mccutchon blowed up 194 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 3: with his tweet and you know, obviously making it very 195 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 3: clear that he's angry at them and upset at them. 196 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 3: If I weren't giving him advice, if I were his 197 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 3: pr guy, I would be like, Andrew, this is a 198 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 3: terrible look for you, buddy. You've got a great career here, 199 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 3: You're a fan favorite. You're somebody that people love. You've 200 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 3: been a big part of like sort of resurrecting the 201 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 3: team from thirteen to fifteen. Scott gracefully, Man, I know 202 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 3: you're upset this is gone gracefully. 203 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 2: I agree. 204 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: I think at I think he overplayed his status a 205 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 1: little bit to the fans. He's got Clemente Parker or Stargel. 206 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: I think he thought it would be automatic. He keeps 207 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: playing and he's gotten fan support, but I think he 208 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 1: probably thought. 209 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 2: It would be more overwhelming than it is. 210 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 3: That And I'll tell you the other thing, Mark, like, 211 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 3: regardless of what you think of the situation, and I'm 212 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 3: a big fan of mc cutcheon, this comes off as 213 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 3: like he's basically being very selfish and almost petty, you 214 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. And it's like, you've had such 215 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 3: a great career, why go out like that? You know? 216 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 3: And here's the other thing. I like Ben, I like Hines, 217 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 3: I like Troy. Right isral cuts has already gone and 218 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 3: played somewhere else, so you know, he's not a one 219 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 3: helmet guy. If he wants to go somewhere else and 220 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 3: try and play, he can do that. This isn't like Jose. 221 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 3: You know, those three guys wanted to end their career 222 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 3: as Steelers. They wanted to do onet helmet guys, and 223 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 3: they weren't going to go anywhere else. You know what, 224 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 3: He's already played for what two or three more others? 225 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 3: I think three other teams at least, So what difference 226 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 3: does it make if he goes somewhere else and plays 227 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 3: if he really wants to play. 228 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, but nobody wants them. If nobody wants them. 229 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 3: Paul, Well, that's that's the I mean, that's that That 230 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 3: could be very true, and I get that, But why 231 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 3: do the Pirates have to take them? You know what 232 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 3: I'm saying, like, like, your leverage is that four other 233 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 3: teams want you if you don't have that. My thing 234 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 3: with the Pirates is I have no problem with what 235 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 3: they did in terms of them trying to say, Okay, 236 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 3: it's time to move on. I have no problem with that. 237 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 3: I just feel like sometimes you have to do it 238 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 3: a little bit more gracefully than they did it. By 239 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 3: the same token, I think that Andrew McCutcheon needs to 240 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 3: be a little more graceful on how he handles things 241 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 3: as well. 242 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 2: How much better are the Pirates Paul with the bats 243 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 2: they signed, Well. 244 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 3: That's a great question. Mark here here, here's a couple 245 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 3: of things. Are they better at catcher, probably not. Are 246 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 3: they better at third base? Probably not. They're probably better 247 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 3: with nickens Ares offensively at short. But are they better defensively? No, 248 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 3: they're not. I don't know what Brian Reynolds has left, right. 249 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 3: I mean, I think they're better, but I also know 250 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 3: that whatever increment they're better on offense. Like when you 251 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 3: look at what they're gonna have to do to get 252 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 3: these all these guys in the lineup, defensively, they could 253 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 3: be a disaster. So I think they're better, Mark. I 254 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 3: think if their pitching is good, they should be able 255 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 3: to win some more games. But I look at the 256 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 3: overall picture and I wonder have they really truly improved 257 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 3: themselves enough to make the impact that they think they're 258 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 3: gonna make. My sense is toughing not. 259 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 2: Paul has always great stuff. I appreciate you taking the time. 260 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 3: All right, thanks, my man, I'll talk to you soon. 261 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 2: That's the great Paul's ice. 262 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 1: By the way, an Olympic hockey About midway through the 263 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: second period, it's Sweden to Italy two. Sweden shooting two 264 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: for thirty one from the field Italy shooting two for four. 265 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 2: Gollah me what I fuck get your calls in calls 266 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 2: on the fifteens eight three three four one two w 267 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 2: xdx eight three three four one two w xdx is 268 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 2: a component of any nice date. 269 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 5: Thank you for making my day? 270 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 2: Yeah what you said the ex at one oh five nine. 271 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: Like Ice clarified, Porter did criticize James Harrison too, for 272 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: criticizing Mike Tomlin, saying that Tomlin made Harrison into the 273 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: player and star that he is. So clearly Porter was 274 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: triggered by Ben and Harrison having criticized Tomlin, or maybe 275 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: for not rushing to tom Win's side and support since 276 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: tom Win quits. And again I just marveled, just absolutely 277 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: marvel how a guy like Joey Porter, who never played 278 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: for tomin now, who did work on Tomlin's coaching staff 279 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: and did socialize with Tomlin. It amazes me that the 280 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: guys act like Tomlin had this great coaching career when 281 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: all he had was a great four years and then 282 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: after that it went to excrement. But uh, yeah, Tomlin 283 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: has people. I don't know full hypnotize what the word is, 284 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: but But the thing with Joey defending him is, you 285 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: know Joey knows the full story why Tomlin left, every 286 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: single bit of it. 287 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 2: Didn't bring that up. 288 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 3: Did He. 289 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: Didn't talk about anybody being a bad guy there, did he? 290 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: I it's two two in the second between Italy and Sweden, 291 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: despite Italy being out shot like forty to four, it's 292 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: two to two. Do you believe in ANTIPASTI let's go 293 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: to Brian. Brian, you're on with double. 294 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 2: M good day, I said, good day. 295 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 6: The Pirates almost had me with the ozuna training. But 296 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 6: if you really sign look at it, there's no per signing. Sorry, 297 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 6: I follow guys, but they're no different than they were 298 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 6: any other year. 299 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 3: You know, they're. 300 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 2: They're they're br br they're bro they're different. They added 301 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 2: sixty nine home runs. That's a lot of home runs. 302 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: If the home runs get literally added on to last 303 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: year's total. And I know that that sort of duplication 304 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: plus addition is very unlikely, but if it happens, they're 305 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: middle of the pack for home runs and it's a 306 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: power MLB. 307 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 3: Right now. 308 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 6: When I say that they're in the same place, you 309 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 6: still have two people on expiring contracts essentially because there's 310 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 6: an option plus going into a work stoffage. I think 311 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 6: they're essential failure because they've their whole financial is into 312 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 6: the infrastructure and development of players and they still haven't 313 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 6: developed the player yet. 314 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 3: That can be an end. 315 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: But you're changing, you're changing the topic. You said they 316 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: aren't any better, they didn't add anything, and they did. 317 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: They added sixty nine home runs. If you want to 318 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: be skeptical about that moving forward, that I understand. If 319 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: you want to be even more skeptical about what they're 320 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: doing for the long haul, that I definitely understand. But 321 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: they have made their team better. Let's go to. 322 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 3: Gary Hey, Mark, what's up? Hi? Gary Hey? 323 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 5: I feel like sports betting is an end. 324 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 7: It's it's gotta we. 325 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 5: Gotta rein it in. It's it's too much. 326 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: It's okay, what why so why so well? 327 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 5: So much money gets people lose so much money doing 328 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 5: all this sports betting, and it's too easy. 329 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:29,239 Speaker 2: I agree with you. 330 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 3: But isn't that? 331 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 2: Isn't that more? Is it? Isn't it tough to legislate 332 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 2: human frailty? You you you want? You want the people 333 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 2: to be protected from themselves. Don't aren't we behold to 334 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 2: being adults. 335 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 5: True, true, But just because people are gonna do something anyway, 336 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 5: you might say, well, they might go to the bookies, 337 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 5: or people are gonna go. 338 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 2: Well no, no, no. 339 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: I I think if they had to go to the 340 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: bookie down at the bar or whatever, I think there 341 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: would be less gambling, would be less accessible. It would 342 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: certainly be less accessible to young people. But what are 343 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: you suggesting. I don't know if there's a way to 344 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: put the toothpaste back in the tube. 345 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 5: Right well, I mean I know that the I think 346 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 5: it's got to go state by state. 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You 388 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: see him on Sports Net Pittsburgh. He is Tyler Kennedy. 389 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: T can't Let's start with the obvious question. Who's your 390 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: pick to win the gold medal? It seems to me 391 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: like a three team race. 392 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 3: My pick right. 393 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 9: Now it's gonna be Team Canada. I think that offense 394 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 9: is extremely scary. I think they're going there very motivated 395 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 9: to win. I think they're taking it very serious. My 396 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 9: picks Team Canny. The only thing I'm kind of eerie 397 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 9: about is the defense and the goaltending. 398 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you that Canada is an offensive 399 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: juggernaut and kind of tying into that, I don't know 400 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: if there's a hot goalie that can stop them. I mean, 401 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: in a vacuum, any goalie in this tournament could get hot, 402 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: but I'm not sure any of the goalies in the 403 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: tournament were playing real good during the NHL season. 404 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 9: Yeah, And I think Canna's got guys that are willing 405 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 9: to probably run into the goalie like that Tom Wilson 406 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 9: or Sam Bennett if they get hot, right. They have 407 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 9: some guys that are big bodies that are willing to 408 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 9: go to the net, that are willing to do maybe 409 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 9: some things that are maybe offside to you know, throw 410 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 9: a goalie off or to get in his grill. And 411 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 9: I think everything changes. I think everyone's been off for 412 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 9: four or five days, probably a week before they play 413 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 9: their first game in the Olympics, from their last game 414 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 9: in the you know, the regular season of the NHL, 415 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 9: and I think you can really regroup as a player, 416 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 9: as a goalie. And I think everyone's going there on 417 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 9: a fresh sheet. So it's gonna be very interesting and 418 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 9: that's gonna be So I'm really looking forward to Team Canna, 419 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 9: Team US say, just that high quality Hawks. That speed 420 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 9: that's going to be put on display is going to 421 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 9: be so fast and so fun to watch that I 422 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 9: don't think we've ever seen that kind of game ever. 423 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 3: So I'm excited. 424 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: Do you trust Bennington and goal He won the Four Nations. 425 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: That's true, but he's not playing good for Saint Louis 426 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: this year and they have options like Darcy Camper. 427 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 2: He's going to start the tournament. Will he finish? 428 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 9: I think he will. You know, the one thing he 429 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 9: has is he's got the ability to raise his game 430 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 9: in the big stakes. Right Why when they elevate the 431 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 9: intensity when the big pressures come out, he seems to 432 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 9: play good enough to get to win. From winning a 433 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 9: Stanley Cup to the Four Nations. I think he's got 434 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 9: the ability to raise his game when you need him 435 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 9: to do. I think he's going to make those big 436 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 9: stops when you have have to have them. Obviously, he's 437 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 9: had a tough season and that could just because he's 438 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 9: not happy in Saint Louis, with the team that's around him, 439 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 9: how many shots he's getting. It's very easy to get 440 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 9: unmotivated and frustrated when you have a team that's struggling 441 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 9: like Saint Louis. 442 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: As a goalie, McKinnon's at center for Canada. They didn't 443 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: move them out to wing to play like with Sid 444 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: at center. They got McDavid McKinnon and Sid one two 445 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: three at center. What do you think of that? Decision, 446 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 1: good or bad. 447 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 3: I think it's great. 448 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 9: I think when you when you can roll your top 449 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 9: three lines with that caliber of a centerman, that is 450 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 9: so hard to stop, Like it is so hard to 451 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 9: line match against Canada because those three guys are on 452 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 9: three different lines and their boat and all three we 453 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 9: all know can get a line going and it doesn't 454 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 9: really matter who's on their wings. So I think it's 455 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 9: a good decision. I like when you see guys like 456 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 9: that come out one to two, three, and that helps 457 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 9: your team come in waves. And we've seen the Penguins 458 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 9: do that. When when you can roll over one line 459 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 9: into another into another as an offensive threat, it's smothers teams. 460 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 9: It frustrates teams, and I think that's the mentality behind 461 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 9: them putting on three different lines. 462 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: What are your expectations for Sid in the tournament? He 463 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: has six international gold medals, and boy, he gets sky 464 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: high for events like the Olympics, doesn't he. 465 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 466 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 9: I think he always raises his game. I think he's 467 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 9: there obviously as a leader and understands how to play 468 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 9: under pressure. But I think he's got a little bit 469 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 9: different role. 470 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 7: I think he's more of like not taking a backseat 471 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 7: to McDavid and McKay, but he's going to be there 472 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 7: very motivated to show that he belongs there, that. 473 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 9: He can still contribute to that team. Because even when 474 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 9: you see this year, I think Sid was motivated all 475 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 9: year to show that he can still play at that 476 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 9: elite level against elite players. I think he's going to 477 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 9: have a great term and I think it's going to 478 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 9: be a great all around process from that team to 479 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 9: have him there and have him motivated. Again, it's a 480 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 9: different motivation for Sid with how obviously his age, he's 481 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 9: not getting younger, this could be his last one. I 482 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 9: think he's going to be extremely motivated to play very well. 483 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 9: And again, when you when you put Sid with other 484 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 9: elite players, he is so dangerous because of the way 485 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 9: he passes the fuck to his vision, his IQ and 486 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 9: I'm not I'm not knocking Brian rust or Raquel, but 487 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 9: when you put him with guys that he's playing with, 488 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 9: that that's going to be exciting to watch because they're 489 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 9: going to be moving at his pace. I just wonder 490 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 9: how fast they can glue and find that chemistry in 491 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 9: that short tournament, because that's that's a very important aspect 492 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 9: of this tournament is finding chemistry without the lines, getting 493 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 9: your guys, getting your guys to click and play as 494 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 9: one instead of kind of individuals and guys filling roles 495 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 9: that they haven't filled right, playing less, maybe not being 496 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 9: on the power play when they can. When you've got 497 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 9: a team that everyone does that, it's unbelievable. And that's 498 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 9: why sometimes even when you think of the US, you know, 499 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,239 Speaker 9: I was talking to some other guys and they're like, oh, 500 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 9: I can't believe you know JT. Miller and Vincent Trochek 501 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 9: was on the team over Robinson in Dallas, And I 502 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 9: was kind of blown away. I'm like, are you kidding me? 503 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 1: Like I'm in that group. I would have picked Robertson 504 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: and Cawfield on that team. 505 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 9: See this is where see I think if you if 506 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 9: you throw the puck in the corner, I am very 507 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 9: confident JT and Vince are gonna come out with it 508 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 9: before Robinson and and when you think of they have 509 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 9: enough scoring, I think the team US has they need. 510 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 9: They need to play that dog, that in your face, 511 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 9: aggressive physical That's what I think the four nations like, 512 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 9: I think it could have been a different tournament if 513 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 9: the US had McElroy healthy for the whole thing. I 514 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 9: think it could have they could actually won and and 515 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 9: partly because they had a physical team that could chucks. 516 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 9: They they bring up they almost played a Canadian style 517 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 9: of hockey against Canada. And when you have too many 518 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 9: little like shorter, high end skill guys, you can't have 519 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 9: a team full of that. You need some guys. 520 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, but they. 521 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 1: Still finished second TK. As physical as they were, they 522 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: still finished second. 523 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 9: Yes, but they also had injuries, but I guess Canada 524 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 9: did too. And again I I always mark put it 525 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 9: in my mind like when I picked guys like what 526 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 9: I'm looking for, and I think there would be more 527 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 9: of role players on that team. And when I think 528 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 9: of role players, I think of, hey, if the park's 529 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 9: in the corner, they're gonna run through the wall to 530 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 9: get it back. And and not that they're not skilled, 531 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 9: but they understand that role. 532 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 3: And I think when you. 533 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 9: Look at Canada, Canada has guys that do that. They 534 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 9: have this. They have the Tom Wilsons, they have the 535 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 9: Sam Bennetts. The US needed a little sand paper to 536 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 9: match those guys and have the depth sand sand paper 537 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 9: guys because the whole team can't be full of the 538 00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 9: same kind of player. They need different types of players 539 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 9: to make them gel to be a complete team. You 540 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 9: know that's why, like again, you see. 541 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: It sounds like you think physicality is going to mean 542 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: a lot of the Olympics. 543 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 2: Teak, I mean, will Wilson be a big impact guy? 544 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: Well, the Kuchucks, I mean, Olympic hockey is traditionally refereed 545 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: tighter in a faster brand. 546 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 9: Mark. As soon as you step on the ice with 547 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 9: a Tom Wilson or JT. Miller, you know they're on 548 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,959 Speaker 9: the ice. It doesn't matter when when it is, if 549 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 9: it's Summer hockey, Olympics, whatever. Those kind of players can 550 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 9: change the game by a big hit. By being physical, 551 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 9: they create room for your more skills, for your four 552 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 9: for your more skilled players. And do I think physicality 553 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 9: has uh, that's going to be a part of this one. 554 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 9: I think it's part of the NHL. What do you 555 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 9: think when you talk about like NHL and who won 556 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 9: the last two years Florida Panthers won. Yeah, they had 557 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 9: high end skills, but they were like bullies. They can 558 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 9: play any way you want. And you talk to anyone 559 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 9: that want to Stanley Cup, they all agree, even my 560 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 9: the O nine team to Boston to Chicago. Any way 561 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 9: you guys want. They wanted to play physical skilled. We 562 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 9: always had that. 563 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 3: On your team. 564 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 9: So I think physicality does have a presence in the Olympics, 565 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 9: and it will because of who. Even the gms of 566 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 9: the team are thinking that, because of who they're adding 567 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 9: to their team. You know, who would ever think in 568 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 9: August Tom Wilson would be on the team. 569 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 2: But he's too TK, you know what I mean? 570 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: I like, I think with Wilson with a Kachucks as 571 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: a happy medium, I don't know, I you know, agree 572 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: to disagree. I'd just rather have robertson at Cawfield than 573 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: the Miller and Trocheck, who I know, both guys. 574 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 9: Yeah, but Tom Wilson gets all the points because he 575 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 9: careates for people are nervous when he's on the ice. 576 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 9: Question and that creator and that creates room. Like I 577 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 9: felt a difference when I went from Mark, like from 578 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 9: Matt Cook to Mark Leatestu because when Matt Cooke, when 579 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 9: Matt Cooke was when Matt Cook was on the ice, 580 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 9: I was kind of like the guy out of the line. 581 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 9: Might I can kind of float because everyone was worried 582 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 9: about Matt Cook running someone through the wall or doing 583 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 9: something silly, and that freed up ice for me. And 584 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 9: I think that's the kind of guys and those guys 585 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 9: like Tom Wilson, when they go to the front of 586 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 9: the net, there's certain defensemen that will let them be 587 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 9: there without touching them because they know if they give 588 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 9: him a cross check, they might get a punch in 589 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 9: the head. So I think Tom Wilson, Yeah, he's got 590 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 9: a point per game, and it's because he's physical. It's 591 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 9: not because he's a dangler. It's because he creates space 592 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 9: on the ice by his physicality, his intimidation, his willingness 593 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 9: to finish. So again, he's a great player because of 594 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 9: his physicality. 595 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,719 Speaker 1: Who's the pressure on most. I think it's on McDavid individually. 596 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: I mean, it was good that he got the winning 597 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: goal at four Nations, but I think this is a 598 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: bigger stage and he still doesn't have a great resume 599 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: when it comes to championships. 600 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's on McDavid. 601 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 9: I think that not that the torch has been passed, 602 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 9: but I think there's more expectations for McDavid and McKinnon 603 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 9: to kind of start carrying the workload of being the 604 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 9: guy for Canada. Yes, Sid will always be that guy. 605 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 9: But Sid's already won. Fid's already done everything possible. It's 606 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 9: their time to step up and show that they can 607 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 9: play on the big stage and win on the big stage. 608 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 9: So yes, I do agree with you. I think there's 609 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 9: a ton of pressure on McDavid and McKinnon to play 610 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 9: well and Canada to a championship. 611 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 2: You say Canada is gonna win. Who's most likely to 612 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 2: make the final? 613 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 9: I would love to say the US, I really would. 614 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 9: I think that would be everybody would be locked to 615 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 9: their TV. I think it'd be so good for hockey. 616 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 9: But sometimes I think like a team like Sweden might 617 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 9: upset either canad or US. I think there could be 618 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 9: a sleeper that figures it out. Sweden always plays very 619 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 9: such a great team game and in a short tournament 620 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 9: that scares me. So I'd love to see Team Canada 621 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 9: Team US play head to head and just have fun 622 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 9: with it. But there might be a sleeper in there. 623 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: TK great stuff as always enjoying the Olympics. 624 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 2: We'll talk next week. 625 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 9: Mark, who you got? 626 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 2: I got Canada. 627 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: In fact, I'm rooting for Canada because I know sin 628 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: that makes me a bad American. Well there's something no 629 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:02,239 Speaker 1: shortage of bad Americans, all right. 630 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 2: That's Tyler Kennedy. 631 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: Check him out on sports Net Pittsburgh. Virgil Van Dyke 632 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: scored with TK joining us. So it's one Neil Liverpool 633 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: in the seventy third minute. We've barely touched the ball 634 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: since then and probably committed three penalties and none are called, 635 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,760 Speaker 1: Thank god. Uh is it still too two for Italy? 636 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: And oh Sweden scored to go three to damn it, 637 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:29,399 Speaker 1: damn it. Come on you Italians one O five ninety X, Oh. 638 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 8: What the X welcomes three Days Grace to town on 639 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 8: March third at Egg James Arena, and have we got 640 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 8: something cool for you? I shot it checking out a 641 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,959 Speaker 8: song at the concert from on stage, not the side 642 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 8: of the stage or behind the stage, not in the bathroom, 643 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 8: on stage and just how are we going to do that? Well, 644 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 8: that's where you come in. We're looking for the number 645 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,760 Speaker 8: one three Days Grace fan. Just tell us in thirty 646 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 8: seconds or less on the talkback feature of the free 647 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 8: iHeartRadio APPM why you are the number one three Days 648 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 8: Great fan? From one O five to nine the. 649 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 2: X Thanks to you. More than fifty thousand teachers have 650 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 2: been recognized for the amazing work they do in classrooms 651 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 2: across America. Fantis not Fani's not fair the X at 652 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 2: one oh five nine. 653 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,959 Speaker 1: Time to ask Mark anything I brought the solicit which 654 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: is all because I've been arrested for soliciting what the 655 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 1: UH red list by People's natural gas Call now a 656 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: three three four one two wxdx or use the double 657 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 1: secret probation number four one two three three three wxdx, 658 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: or leave a talk back via the microphone icon at 659 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: the iHeartMedia app. We're talking about what Joey Porter said. 660 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: He got real personal with Ben. Let's hear that sound 661 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: by one more time. This is on Cam Heyward's podcast. 662 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,399 Speaker 10: The seven dude that did that, we don't talk about 663 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 10: it now is crazy, like out of anybody should talk. 664 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,399 Speaker 10: He should never grab a microphone and really talk still 665 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 10: a business because if we talk and still a business, 666 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 10: this yea, his ass is foul of all foul. Like 667 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 10: that he's dead is foul of all foul. He's not 668 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 10: a good teammate. Won Super Bowl? Would he? But the 669 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 10: person he's just not a good teammate, Like he knows 670 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 10: that anybody in the Stiller building knows that. But we 671 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 10: protected him because I've only won one super Bowl and 672 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 10: that was my quarterback. So do I love my quarterback? 673 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:25,399 Speaker 3: Yeah? 674 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 2: But is he a good person? 675 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 3: No? 676 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: First off, PZ, you didn't win a super Bowl with him. 677 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: He won a super Bowl with you. Let's not pretend 678 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 1: who won, sucking hind you know what they're. Second off, again, 679 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: PZ said that in protection of Tomlin, who bends criticized 680 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:52,720 Speaker 1: since Tom win quit. PZ also put the knock on Harrison, 681 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 1: who's been critical of Tomlin since Tom win quit. Now, 682 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: if PZ wants to tell story about Ben Roethlisberger or 683 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: imply that things were covered up, which leads right back 684 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: to Milledgeville and Tahoe, which is in every story written 685 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: about what PEZ said, PZ knew that was gonna happen. 686 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: Any secrets anybody out there know about coach Tomlin? Coach 687 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,839 Speaker 1: t knew anything untoward that might have helped make him quit. 688 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 3: I don't know. 689 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, is that out there? I don't know. 690 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 2: I do know. I'm still not saying, or maybe I'm 691 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:28,399 Speaker 2: just saying, but my god, let Mike Tomlin effing go. 692 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 2: He wants to go, let him go. 693 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 1: And so I ask you, as we await calls for 694 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 1: as mark anything, who's the ass in this is it? 695 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 1: Peas for saying it is a camp, for hosting it 696 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,359 Speaker 1: and then putting it on, not editing it up. 697 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 2: Or do you just agree that Ben is bad? 698 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 1: Eight three three four one two wxdx Sunderland's gonna tie it? 699 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 9: Or no they're not. 700 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,919 Speaker 2: Maybe they aren't, not yet. Clairett Clairet Claret clared, Claret 701 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 2: clear it cleared. Still not out of trouble. Okay, let's 702 00:37:58,239 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 2: go to. 703 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,320 Speaker 3: A talkback here. 704 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 10: I know nothing about the NBA, but I saw that 705 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 10: they're doing Americans versus the World at the All Star Game. 706 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 3: Is that essentially gonna boil down to. 707 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,839 Speaker 2: Black All Stars versus White All Stars? No, not at all. 708 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 1: I mean there's there's you know, white All Stars that 709 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: are American born, there's black All Stars that are European born. 710 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 1: But if you didn't want to have a game that 711 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 1: would draw money, have black versus White. I mean this 712 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 1: is a poor substitute for that. Black versus White would 713 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 1: draw a billion viewers, especially if you advertised in this 714 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,319 Speaker 1: black versus White. I don't see what helse you could 715 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 1: call it, but have a black versus white NBA All 716 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: Star game. They would play for real. It wouldn't be 717 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 1: some no defense meaningless type of game. And both Kid 718 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,840 Speaker 1: Rock and Bad Bunny could do the halftime show together. 719 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,720 Speaker 2: It'd be awesome. That'd be like Ebony and Ivory. 720 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:53,840 Speaker 3: Who did that? 721 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 2: Was that McCartney and Michael Jackson? No, they did, say, 722 00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 2: say say Ebany and Ivory was McCartney and Stevie Wonder 723 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 2: It'll be just like that. Ebny and Ivory. 724 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:12,800 Speaker 1: Live together in perfect tom Andy side by side on 725 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: my piano keyboard. 726 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 11: Oh lord, why can't we The ink is black, the 727 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 11: page is white. Together we learn to read and write, 728 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 11: say say say what you will. That's not relevant to 729 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 11: the black white thing. That's just McCartney and Michael Jackson. 730 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 11: Let's go to Eric. Eric, you're on with double M. 731 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 3: Hey. 732 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,320 Speaker 9: Mark, Hey, I was wondering if I have an idea 733 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 9: what you might be getting at with black Comlin might 734 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 9: have been. 735 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not gonna we're not gonna say that low. 736 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 1: We're just gonna lay traps for it, So don't bring 737 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:47,839 Speaker 1: it up. 738 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 9: What why is no one in the media bringing it up? 739 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I do know, but I 740 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 2: mean I'm no better. I won't I'll tease it and 741 00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 2: like I said, I'll lay traps, but. 742 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: I'm not going to talk about it because I'm not 743 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 1: going to be the guy who does it. And they 744 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,439 Speaker 1: don't want me to do it. To be quite frank, 745 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 1: they do not want me to do it. Not where 746 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 1: I talk, not where I write. 747 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 3: Why is that? I don't know. 748 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 1: You would have to ask them. But everybody in this 749 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 1: time to some degree is enslaved by the Steelers. 750 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 3: All right, I got you. 751 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 2: That's the truth. I mean, I wish it was different, 752 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 2: and it sucks. It sucked. 753 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 3: Now. 754 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: You made me feel guilty. You made me feel like 755 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,839 Speaker 1: I betrayed my profession. But I've done that my whole career. 756 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 1: Eight three three four one two wxdx the number to 757 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 1: call eight three three four one two wxdx. 758 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 2: This game is really pissing me off. 759 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 1: Eighty fourth minute Liverpool still ned one nil, but under 760 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,800 Speaker 1: siege at Sunderland. Liverpool give up injury time goals that 761 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,279 Speaker 1: are disasters all year. 762 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 2: Hopefully I'm jinxing that happening as opposed to jinxon that 763 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 2: will happen by saying that, and here they come again, 764 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 2: here comes Sunderland. 765 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 1: Oh God, let it go out. Let it go out, 766 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 1: okay or cover it okay? Any hoodles Uh, we're gonna 767 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 1: talk more. 768 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 2: I want you. Reaction to the Porter thing, is PZ right? 769 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 7: Is he wrong? 770 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 2: Didn't do any good for anybody? It's really bad for Ben. 771 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:16,839 Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep saying that over and over again. 772 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 1: It's really bad for Ben because, like I said, in 773 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 1: every story about what Porter said, it's all about Millageville, 774 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 1: It's all about Tahoe. 775 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,840 Speaker 2: The news cycle for that has been reopened wide. 776 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: And with Ben being on the ballot for the Hall 777 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 1: of Fame next year for the first time and no 778 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:40,240 Speaker 1: guarantee to get in even without this, this definitely doesn't 779 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: help there.