1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike Sincy three sixty about Cincinnati. From Cincinnati, 2 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: this is ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. 3 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: What a time as we go into our number two 4 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 2: since e three sixty March is here, Madness is ensuing 5 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 2: a lot of college basketball to keep up with spring 6 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: training in full action and the NFL offseason never ceases 7 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 2: to slow down. That's why we have guests like the 8 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 2: one we're about to welcome in that helps us keep 9 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 2: our eye on everything going on, because well that's what 10 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 2: he does on a daily basis. From Fox nineteen, our 11 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 2: good friend Joe Daniman, Joe, what's going on? 12 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 3: Hi, guys, thought of you guys yesterday. So I'm standing 13 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 3: outside of pay Course Stadium in the middle of the 14 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 3: afternoon doing TV stuff on Dalton Reisner resigning with the Bengals, 15 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 3: and there's some construction work going on outside of the stadium, 16 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 3: and a young man and a hard hat walked by 17 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,199 Speaker 3: as I'm in front of the camera and yelled, yeek, 18 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 3: I'm telling you, the nation stands up. Made my day. 19 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 3: It always does. 20 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I love it. You mentioned being there 21 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 2: yesterday for the Dalton Reisner. Dude, We talked about it 22 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 2: on air. I don't think I've ever heard from a 23 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 2: more excited and grateful free agent signing than what you 24 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: got from Dalton Reisner yesterday. And I know everyone kind 25 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 2: of assumed it was a layup and the Bengals made 26 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 2: the layup, But what did you make of the news yesterday? 27 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 2: And making sure Riisner's here and now a question that 28 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 2: we don't have to answer that we had to. I 29 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: think each of the last five or six years, you 30 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: don't really have to answer much about the offensive line 31 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 2: going forward. 32 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 3: I think that's the biggest takeaway from this is that 33 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 3: both Joe Burrow and Dak Taylor said at the end 34 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,279 Speaker 3: of the year, this is the best the offensive line 35 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 3: has played in Joe Burrow's era in Cincinnati. And I 36 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 3: think if you get that, you hold onto it for 37 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 3: as long as you can. And you think about the 38 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: many conversations we've had about the Bengals offensive line and 39 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 3: getting it fixed and getting it right. They've got it 40 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 3: to a point where it's good. It's kind of quietly 41 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 3: good across the league. I'm not sure how many people 42 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 3: actually look at the numbers outside of Cincinnati and see 43 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 3: how good they were this last year, and he's a 44 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 3: big part of that. He's a guy who wants to 45 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 3: be here. He wrapped his arms around Cincinnati. It seems 46 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 3: like the fan base did it right back to him. 47 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 3: I thought the comment yesterday of him saying, I'm gonna 48 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 3: hug Joe Burrow. We'll see if he hugged me back 49 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 3: was a great line. I mean, he lit up the 50 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 3: room and he does that every time he talks, and 51 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 3: those kind of people matter at a workplace and inside 52 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 3: of the locker room. But the fact that Ted Carriss 53 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 3: and Amarius Mims talk about playing their best football with 54 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 3: him out there last year and want him to be 55 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 3: next to them this coming year, I think speaks volumes, 56 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 3: but the terminology is right. It was a layup for 57 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 3: both sides. They both wanted to get it done. They 58 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 3: got it done. And what do they always say, right, 59 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 3: it's March, it's madness. And in basketball, if you just 60 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 3: see the ball go through the net once, that's when 61 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 3: you start cooking. So the Bengals got to lay up 62 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 3: on the board. Now we'll see if they can knock 63 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 3: down some jump shots. 64 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 2: I think, barring a surprise in the next few hours 65 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 2: with Trey Hendrickson and the Tag. A lot of us 66 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 2: assume Trey Hendrickson's time here in Cincinnati is now done. 67 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 2: If that's the case, which we assume it to be, 68 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 2: how do you sum up Trey Hendrickson as a Cincinnati Bengal. 69 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 3: That it's probably the best free agent signing that I 70 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 3: can remember for the Bengals, considering what he was in 71 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 3: New Orleans and what he became in Cincinnati is a 72 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 3: big part of what the Bengals did to get to 73 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 3: a Super Bowl, and a defense that carried them through 74 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 3: the playoffs that year to get to the super Bowl. 75 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 3: The shame of it is is I still believe there's 76 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 3: a lot of really good football left in Trey Henderson 77 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 3: and whoever he ends up playing with next year, I 78 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 3: think you're gonna look at it and you're going to say, man, 79 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 3: which she was still here in since because the Bengals 80 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 3: could use that kind of production. But it's over. It's 81 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 3: a divorce and both sides kind of feel like they 82 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 3: want to go their own separate ways, and I think 83 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 3: now it's run its course. The way last year played 84 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 3: out in the second half of the year was kind 85 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 3: of the final nail in the Coffin for Trey Henderson's 86 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 3: time in Cincinnati, But I think it's important for people 87 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 3: to look back at the totality of what he did 88 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 3: in Cincinnati as far as his production, and not just 89 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 3: be soured by the final year and the final half 90 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 3: season where he wasn't playing and ultimately it seems like 91 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 3: he forced his way out of Cincinnati. He's the best 92 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 3: free agency signing I can remember for this team having 93 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 3: and what he did as far as production and helping 94 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 3: this team get to places they hadn't been in a 95 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 3: long time. I hope that's what's remembered for him, not 96 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 3: just the way it ended with the Bengals. 97 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 2: You got a chance to cover the combine, and the 98 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 2: combine has now passed. But in doing so we heard 99 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 2: from Duke Tobin and Zach Taylor and Dan Pitcher and 100 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 2: Al Golden and Darren Simmons. Did you gather anything leaving 101 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 2: the combine and going forward of maybe how they're looking 102 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 2: to attack this offseason or looking to attack the draft 103 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 2: that has changed for you. 104 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 3: I think the word attack is the right word because 105 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 3: I think the tone I felt, and I felt this 106 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 3: ever since Duke Tobin got in front of a microphone 107 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 3: in January and the very rare postseason media availability with 108 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 3: Duke Tobin was they understand the urgency of this offseason, 109 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 3: and while they might not be able to express it 110 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 3: to kind of tip their hand on what they're doing. 111 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 3: I'm fully believing and expecting them to be very aggressive 112 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 3: in free agency and try to fix this roster defensively 113 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 3: as soon as possible. They know coaching seats are warming, 114 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 3: they know the quarterback's patients is thinning, and they have 115 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 3: to get this thing right this offseason and into the season, 116 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,799 Speaker 3: otherwise there's going to be some really difficult decisions made 117 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 3: by the higher ups, the ownership group, the front office 118 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 3: about what this team looks like in twenty twenty seven. 119 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 3: They get that. I think they fully understand that. I 120 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 3: also think there's an excitement for Al Golden for the 121 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 3: way the year finished, with the defense playing more functional 122 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 3: football in the idea he's going to get some new 123 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 3: ingredients to play with this year. I feel like for 124 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 3: ten to twelve weeks last year, Al Golden was coaching 125 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 3: with basically kid gloves on and really couldn't execute the 126 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 3: kind of style of defense he wanted to try to 127 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 3: deploy here in Cincinnati, So I think there's real excitement 128 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 3: talking to him about specific players and about what it 129 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 3: might look like when he gets more pros on his 130 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 3: defense in twenty twenty six. So I know it's one 131 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 3: of those things I see better than I hear. But 132 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 3: what I've been hearing from the Bengals so far, ever 133 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 3: since the season ended, was an understanding of the urgency 134 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 3: to get it right in twenty twenty six or else 135 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 3: there will be consequences across the board with this team. 136 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 4: That was kind of what I was thinking too, because, 137 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:24,239 Speaker 4: like I've said a couple of different times, that I 138 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 4: think that they understand. I think that they will be active. 139 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 4: Some of the things that they've said would suggest that 140 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 4: as well. But I don't really trust them to understand 141 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 4: the urgency of the offseason, or their definition of urgency 142 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 4: might be different than what everyone else is. So I 143 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 4: guess where does the urgency come from? Is it from Burrow? 144 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 4: Is it from the fact that you know they haven't 145 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 4: won in three years, not gone back to the playoffs? 146 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 4: And why should Bengals fans feel like they actually do 147 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 4: understand the urgency. 148 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 3: I think it's very fair for you to say there 149 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 3: should be skepticism because they've had this window now forever, 150 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 3: since Joe Burrow walked in the door, and they really 151 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 3: only pushed their chips to the middle in that one 152 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 3: off season of big time free agency spending. So I 153 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 3: think it's the three years Austin. I think it's three 154 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 3: years of not going to the playoffs. Wait when you 155 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 3: step back and look at it and see what you've 156 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 3: invested with Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase and T Higgins, and 157 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 3: the return on that investment is three years without the playoffs. 158 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 3: If you can't look in the mirror and say we 159 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 3: have to do something different this offseason besides just directing 160 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 3: and developing and trying to retain our own guys and 161 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 3: think that's going to work again, then that's just that's insane. 162 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 3: That's the definition of insanity if you can't do something 163 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 3: different after seeing it three years in a row. So 164 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 3: I think that's the impetus behind it is the unacceptable 165 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 3: outcomes of the last three years. You know, you can 166 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,839 Speaker 3: have a one off year. Your quarterback can get hurt, 167 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 3: things might not go your way, it might have a 168 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 3: bad break, your division might be stacked. All those things 169 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 3: can be a one off year. I get that, but 170 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 3: three years in a row and then the quarterbacks starting 171 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 3: to show some patients cracking, I think those have to 172 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 3: be the buttons you push when it's time to be 173 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 3: urgent and address this thing as soon as possible. Now, 174 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 3: coaches can be urgent, quarterback can be urgent, front office 175 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 3: can be urgent. But the question is is will they 176 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 3: be given the kind of monetary tools they have to 177 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 3: use to do it? Okay? I mean right, you know 178 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 3: you can go to the grocery store and you can 179 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 3: say I want this ingredient. I want to make that 180 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 3: I want to do this, But then the person with 181 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,719 Speaker 3: money says, hey, listen, now, we can't be spending all 182 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 3: this money, and then you're stuck with what you're stuck with. 183 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 3: And so it has to be from every level within 184 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 3: that organization and in that building to be on the 185 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 3: same page and to have the same kind of urgency 186 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 3: to get this done. Here. In twenty twenty seven. 187 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 4: I found it strange that Duke Tobin said he hasn't 188 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 4: had time to meet with Joe Burrow to have a 189 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 4: full debrief. What did what did you think of that comment? 190 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 3: I don't know how often Joe's been in count. This 191 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 3: felt like the off season where Joe has just kind 192 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 3: of wanted to be away and to get away, and 193 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 3: that's understandable. He seemed frustrated. We all saw it. He 194 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 3: seemed angry sometimes when those emotions kick in, and I 195 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 3: don't want to psychoanalyze someone I don't know, but I'm 196 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 3: just trying to connect some dots here. If you're having 197 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 3: a bad couple of months at work and you have 198 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 3: a lot of PTO to use, I would want to 199 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 3: get away from work for as long as I could 200 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 3: and just kind of clear my head and do whatever 201 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 3: I had to do. Now they might not be in 202 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 3: front of each other sitting down having meetings, but I'm 203 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 3: sure there's communication that needs to be had. Joe Borrow 204 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 3: is going to have that communication with Duke Cobin and 205 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 3: the important people in that building. But I kind of 206 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 3: think it's probably by Joe's choice that Joe just kind 207 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 3: of wanted to get away. And you know, I don't 208 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 3: believe all the pictures I see on social media. I 209 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 3: don't believe anything anymore when it comes to pictures. I 210 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 3: don't know if it's ai, if it's real, but he's 211 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 3: everywhere right everywhere. But here, he's been. He's been all 212 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 3: over the globe, showing up with the most random places. 213 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 3: And I don't know if it's real or not, but 214 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 3: it just kind of feels like Joe wanted to get away. 215 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 3: And that's good, that's fine, that's what he has to do. 216 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 3: Just just get away for a while and come back 217 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 3: refreshed and let the people who are paid to make 218 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 3: these kinds of decisions to fix this and get this 219 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 3: roster right. Although fair to be skeptical, let them cook. 220 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 2: On the red side of things. You had a chance 221 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 2: to visit the Reds at spring training, and we've seen 222 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 2: what this team has done the early part of spring training. 223 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 2: Is there any question as to Matt McClain's success being 224 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 2: tied to his pant length at this point? 225 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 3: You know what, guys, I'm waiting for somebody to talk 226 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 3: me off the ninety win ledge. Okay, that's where I 227 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 3: am right now. You know, I mean, it's an eighty 228 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 3: three win team. And you go back last year and 229 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 3: you brought up Matt McClain, if I were to challenge 230 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 3: you to go through the entire roster, you would go 231 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 3: through the roster and said, well, Matt McClain left a 232 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 3: lot on the bone. Spencer Steer didn't perform like we 233 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 3: thought he would. La Da La Cruz has another level. 234 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 3: He could hit. You go into the pitching staff, guys 235 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 3: who were hurt, Nick Widolo the blister. There are so 236 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 3: many players this team counts on as their core who 237 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 3: I would say underperformed or we expected more of last year, 238 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 3: and they'd scratched together in an eighty three win season 239 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 3: and made the playoffs. Now if even half of those 240 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 3: guys or all of those guys takes a leap forward 241 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 3: and they have a growth year, and then you add 242 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 3: Auohanneo Suarez and now you have left handed specialists in 243 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 3: the bullpen, why can't this be a ninety win team? 244 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 3: Why can't that be a baseline for this team going forward. 245 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 3: It's funny because you know, Austin and I were texting 246 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 3: yesterday about Matt McClain and his two home run day, 247 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 3: and I said, yeah, you know what, you know, Matt 248 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 3: McLain had a nice spring last year, And I went 249 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 3: back and looked at it. He really did. He struck 250 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 3: out seventeen times in fifty five at bats. He hit 251 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 3: about two point fifty at spring. What's his pine? I 252 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 3: guess whatever, But then he looked this year. Fourteen at bats, 253 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 3: one strikeout, and he got pop, and he's been able 254 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 3: to try to cover the outside part of the plate 255 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 3: that gave him so much trouble at the end of 256 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 3: last year and hit one out to right center yesterday. 257 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 3: And if that's the harbinger of what his season's going 258 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 3: to be better played coverage, long pants and having success. 259 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,719 Speaker 3: I just look at this team and say, there were 260 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 3: so many guys last year of that just didn't have 261 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 3: great years, and we expect more from And if those 262 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 3: guys take that step, you're looking at a team I 263 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 3: think should be above ninety wins, should be the expectation. 264 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 3: And I want people to talk me off that expectation. 265 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, my rebuttal, my attempt to talk you off of 266 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 4: that ledge would be the words you used about five 267 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 4: times during that spiel, was if if, if, if, if, if? 268 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 4: Why should I believe that those guys are going to rebound? 269 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 4: Why should I believe that everybody's going to get through 270 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 4: the season entirely healthy? Like I don't have a lot 271 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 4: of right, That's what I'm saying, Like those things are 272 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 4: going to happen, and I just don't you know the 273 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 4: Matt McClain that we've seen. Yes, it was a pretty 274 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 4: small sample size in twenty twenty three. We haven't seen 275 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 4: much of it since then. Suarez, Yeah, okay, I'm all 276 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 4: all on board with that, but he's going to strike 277 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 4: out a lot, and who's to say that he can 278 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 4: keep hitting forty five plus homers a year. Doesn't happen 279 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 4: all the time for a lot of people. Hunter Green 280 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 4: continues to have injury issues. I just I understand where 281 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 4: people are coming from, because I do think the ceiling 282 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 4: is really high, and I said it yesterday. I think 283 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 4: they could win the National League Central. I just don't 284 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 4: know that I trust them to put it all together 285 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 4: at the same time, because I haven't seen them do 286 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 4: that other than for twelve games in twenty twenty three 287 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 4: and have that team's gone. 288 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 3: Because the IF comes with pedigree, and the pedigree of 289 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 3: a Matt McLain is a first round draft pick who, 290 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 3: when we saw him healthy in twenty twenty three, looked 291 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 3: like a rising star. The IF with Hunter Green comes 292 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 3: with being the number two overall pick, with an arsenal 293 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 3: of elite stuff that we've seen be an all star. 294 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 3: The IF comes with pedigree with Spencer Steer of a 295 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 3: guy that hit more than twenty home runs in three 296 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 3: straight years. The pedigree matters to me that when these 297 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 3: guys are evaluated at a young age and smart baseball 298 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 3: people project them to be a certain level of player, 299 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 3: those guys typically aren't that far off of what guys 300 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 3: become now. Careers can be changed by injury, and that's 301 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 3: where we are with Matt McClain, is wondering what his 302 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 3: career arc is. Is he twenty twenty three Matt McClain 303 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 3: or is he twenty twenty five Matt McLain the only 304 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 3: two seasons we've seen him in Cincinnati, So ex choose 305 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 3: your fighter, right, Is it the Matt McClain that's going 306 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 3: to be a star in twenty twenty three or is 307 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 3: it twenty twenty five Matt McLay. You're wondering is he 308 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 3: ever going to be the same. And it's hard for 309 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 3: me to stand on this call here and say it's 310 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 3: going to be one way or the other. But my 311 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 3: if is going to lean on the pedigree with with 312 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 3: Matt McClain and with Hunter Green, and certainly when you 313 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 3: talk about any team, the idea of health is at 314 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 3: the crux of all of it. I mean, what are 315 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 3: the Dodgers going to do with Shiahilotani and Yamamoto get injured. 316 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 3: I know their depth is insane and they'll be fine. 317 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 3: It will make the playoffs, but without those guys, probably 318 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 3: not winning a World Series. I do like the depths 319 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 3: of the Reds rotation, and that's baked into this as well. 320 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 3: The fact that they have probably six or seven starters. 321 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 3: If you want to throw Brandon Williamson in there, that 322 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 3: can help this team over one hundred and sixty two 323 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 3: game schedules. They're going to need all of them. Everybody 324 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 3: wants to debate, it's Chase Burns, Arett loud A a 325 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 3: fifth starter. They're going to need all seven of those 326 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 3: guys throughout this season to get to where they want 327 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 3: to go. I like that now you're seeing some of 328 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 3: these utility guys. These role guys had moments in spring 329 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 3: Nathaniel Lowe's had some moments. JJ Blade's had some moments. 330 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 3: Dane Myers has had some moments. And I understand it's 331 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 3: spring training, but it feels like the roster is deeper, 332 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 3: especially on the starting rotation. It feels like it's deeper. 333 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 3: And more proven in the bullpen, and if they can 334 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 3: get the front line guys in their every day eight 335 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 3: to take a step forward, I get it if, but 336 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 3: I think that if comes with a lot of pedigree 337 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 3: for a lot of these guys that we expect that 338 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 3: if step this year to. 339 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 2: Get to that ninety win plateau, you would need others 340 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 2: to chip in and help. And I feel like everyone 341 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 2: we've talked to that's been at spring training has talked 342 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 2: about South Stewart and they've talked about Chase Burns a lot. 343 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 2: South Stewart has had a great start so far to 344 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 2: spring hitting over four to twenty. He's got two home runs, 345 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 2: and then you look at what Chase Burns has done 346 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 2: fifty four percent with rate, including a seventy five percent 347 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 2: with rate on the slider that he's been throwing. Which 348 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 2: of those two players' success would contribute to more wins 349 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 2: over the season. If you had to talk about what 350 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,959 Speaker 2: you're getting out of Chase Burns or what South Stewart 351 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 2: could be for this lineup, you had to pick one, 352 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 2: which one could be more impactful? 353 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 3: Such an awesome question to try to pick which one 354 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 3: would affect winning more for the rest My stock line 355 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 3: on Chase Burns is this. While the debate at spring 356 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 3: has been he's in competition for the fifth spot, I 357 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 3: think by the end of the year he'll be closer 358 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 3: to the competition of being in the Reds playoffs rotation 359 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 3: one of those spots than he is to the back 360 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 3: of the rotation. That that's where I think he is. 361 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 3: And I understand Haunter Green, Andrew Abbott and Nicklodolo exists. 362 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 3: I think he can leap frog Nick Lodolo this year 363 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 3: if if everything goes right for Chase Burns and we'll 364 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 3: see about innings, etc. Et cetera. But I think his 365 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 3: upside is higher even this year towards the top of 366 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,719 Speaker 3: the rotation than it is for the back of the rotation. 367 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 3: But the fact that the red have that depth at 368 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 3: starting pitching and we saw last year a team that 369 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 3: was shut out what thirteen times and really struggle to 370 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 3: score runs any pop consistently you can put into this lineup, 371 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 3: I think is going to be more of an indicator 372 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 3: of this team's success than It's hard to say because 373 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 3: baseball is all about pitching another elite arm. So if 374 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 3: you put my feet to the fire and say take 375 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 3: one that's going to affect winning. I'll take the guy 376 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 3: that plays every single day and there isn't as much 377 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 3: depth at that part of the game. I'll take South Stewart, 378 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 3: but I think Chase Burn's feeling is higher, maybe than 379 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 3: anyone on the team not named Eligamon Cruise. 380 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 2: I have two quick basketball questions before we let you go. 381 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 5: One. 382 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 2: I saw Jeremy Ralph post a photo today of finishing 383 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 2: up coaching this year. How would you describe, if you've 384 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 2: understood it all, Jeremy Rouse's coaching style. 385 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 3: I would say this about Jeremy Rouse's coaching style. He 386 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 3: gets very frustrated as youth basketball players, which cracks me up, 387 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 3: and it's a reminder to me why I've never done it. 388 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 3: I just don't feel like I could commit myself with 389 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 3: this schedule to find a way. Good on him. He 390 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 3: found a way to get it done. But I've seen 391 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 3: now my kids are moving out of youth sports and 392 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 3: their high school sports. Now is the parents playing time debate, 393 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 3: And I'm so glad I've gotten out of that where 394 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 3: every kid has to play the same amount of time world, 395 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 3: and I don't envy any coach who has to live 396 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 3: in that world. So good on Jeremy. He smoked a 397 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 3: cigar in a hot sob in Arizona, and I think 398 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:12,959 Speaker 3: it was because the season was coming to an end. 399 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 2: Secondly, we've entered the stage of I guess far sighted 400 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 2: bubble watch for the Cincinnati Bearcats. And listen, I know 401 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 2: the start of the year, in the early on, there 402 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 2: were some bumps along the way, and this team had 403 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 2: every opportunity to roll over Joe. After the West Virginia loss, 404 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 2: they've done just the opposite. They've got an opportunity for 405 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 2: two quad one wins to close out the regular season. 406 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 2: Tell me about the opportunity that presents itself at Fifth 407 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 2: Third Arena tonight. 408 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 3: B Yu is vulnerable. They've been vulnerable since Richie Saunders 409 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 3: left the lineup. They've lost two straight games. Their defense 410 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 3: can't stop anybody. This is right there for you see now, 411 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 3: what's the number? Okay, you see this sixteen right now? 412 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 3: Sixteen wins is twenty one. The number is twenty The 413 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 3: number because that would be two wins to end the 414 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 3: regular season. That would be two wins in the Big 415 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 3: Twelve tournament, and it. 416 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 2: Would be a ten and eight regular season in the 417 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 2: Big Twelve and I. 418 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 3: Pushed the Brakes right because every year on Selection Sunday, 419 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 3: I want to write in my note app that the 420 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 3: tournament committee does not care about the conference tournament as 421 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 3: much as we do. It just feels that way every 422 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 3: single year. But twenty wins and you played in the 423 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 3: Big Twelve and you've looked like a tournament team with 424 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 3: Gisel James, what's that saying? You put yourself in position 425 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 3: to be in position, get it done tonight, get it 426 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 3: done this weekend, and now you've got a beating heart 427 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 3: going to the Big twelve tournament. 428 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,479 Speaker 4: Is there any sort of if pedigree for westvillor. 429 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 3: Well done? 430 00:22:58,359 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 6: Yes? 431 00:22:58,840 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 3: Well done? 432 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 2: If you're at twenty wins and then you look and 433 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 2: you're like man ten and eight in a very good 434 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 2: Big twelve, I think it gives you life. I think 435 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 2: it gives you an opportunity. And to that, I say yeap, 436 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 2: and I say thank you Joe Daniman for joining us. 437 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 4: Yet you boys, thanks. 438 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 2: So Daniman, Fox nineteen's finest follow along with Joe, whether 439 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 2: it's high school hoops, the Reds, the Bengals, FC, Cincinnati 440 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 2: college basketball, They've got it all working for him at 441 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 2: Fox nineteen right now, and we certainly appreciate his time 442 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 2: each and every week as we appreciate yours. 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So Austin, buddy, 450 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 8: play those bookbacks on your screen at please drive out 451 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 8: to sabotage. 452 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 2: Here we go the Tuesday edition of Talkbacks Right here, 453 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 2: ESBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 454 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 9: Yeah. 455 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 10: I don't know why my old lady keeps going over 456 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 10: to the neighbors. I mean, it's kind of fishy. She's 457 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 10: there constantly. What do you guys think is going on? Steroids? 458 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 3: Really steroids? 459 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe steroids? 460 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 11: All right, Can you guys just try to put yourself 461 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 11: in the minds of the Browns and Blackburns for a second. 462 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 11: Why are they probably opposed to restructuring Joe Burrow's contract? 463 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 11: If you see Joe Burrow as the reason you're selling tickets. 464 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 11: You're a franchise player and you never want to see 465 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 11: him leave. To the point that we've scoffed at any 466 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 11: trade talk, why wouldn't you restructures contract so you can 467 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 11: win now? Why you have Key and Javar on their 468 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 11: contracts and you can just pay them a little bit 469 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 11: more in future years. 470 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 10: Why? 471 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 4: Hmm, it's a good question. I don't know that it's 472 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 4: a major issue this season, Okay, trying to think like 473 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 4: they have cap space that they feel like they can 474 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 4: take care of all their issues without restructuring. 475 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 2: The deal, right. 476 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 4: I don't know what it would hurt though, No, I 477 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 4: don't know that it would hurt, and they have cap 478 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 4: space in years to come that would make sense to 479 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 4: do it, right. I don't know the reason. 480 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 11: Also, I don't know if I can say their name 481 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 11: because it's not sponsored, but it's the restaurant that makes 482 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 11: Mexican food that rhymes with No Play Austin, Tony. Do 483 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 11: you guys like no Play? And if so, what do 484 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 11: you order from there? I'm questioning. I know totally's not 485 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 11: ordering Bees, but I'm just curious if you frequent there 486 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 11: and what you order. 487 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 2: Uh, that's all I have. I used to ask these 488 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 2: kind of questions all the time. I'll shut up. Now, 489 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 2: what's it? What's he referring to, referring to Chipotle? And 490 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 2: if so, here's what I get, white rice, double chicken, cheese. 491 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's it. No way, that's it. You're 492 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 4: like my old boss Todd. Shout out to Todd if 493 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 4: he's out there. We used to have to go on 494 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,959 Speaker 4: these launch runs and Todd would make me get, uh, 495 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 4: the the white rice that's not cilantro lime. And apparently 496 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 4: this is a thing at Chipotle, like they have plain 497 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 4: white rice. And you're you're probably writing this down because 498 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 4: you probably don't like the lime rice, and you should 499 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 4: drive me nuts. Here's my order, Uh, usually bowl light 500 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 4: white rice, double chicken, fajitas, hot sauce, corn light sour cream, cheese, lettuce. 501 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 2: Disgusting. 502 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 12: Hey, guys, Marko from the Grove, I know Jeff and 503 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 12: New Richmond will be very jealous of. 504 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 2: Us Kentucky fans. 505 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 12: With Mitch Barnhart finally leaving just with the Caliperry lifetime 506 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 12: contract disaster, but got bailed out because he left on 507 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 12: his own terms and we didn't have to buy him out. 508 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 12: Just falls with the Mark Stoops thing and owing him 509 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 12: all that money because of a bad contract that he 510 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 12: gave him. It was just a disaster the last handful 511 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 12: of years, and I'm so glad he's gone. 512 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 2: Was what I gathered from it was some good, some 513 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 2: bad with Mitch Barnhart. 514 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 13: Mitch Barnhart did some good things. He hired Mark Stoops. 515 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 13: That was good for a while until it wasn't. John 516 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 13: Caliperry that was good for a while until it wasn't. 517 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 13: He did some bad things. She hired Billy Gillespie, don't 518 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 13: even started on that. I think over all the good 519 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 13: outweighs the bad. I think he deserves some, maybe not praise, 520 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 13: but at least some thanks. So I'm okay with him. 521 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 13: So houde go, Ridge go. 522 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 2: The Billy Gillespie days at Kentucky. 523 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 14: Along with Magic City, there's a very famous shoe store 524 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 14: in Atlanta where all the NBA guys went, where they 525 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 14: made custom made, huge size shoes for people like Patrick 526 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 14: Ewing and stuff like that. There's a lot of culture 527 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 14: in that city. 528 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. By the way, Tarleton State is parting ways 529 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 2: with Billy Gillespie this year and see how that went 530 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 2: for Billy. 531 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 15: Hey, fellas Adam here, I'm a friendly reminder of just 532 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 15: follow the money. You talk about the Magic City thing, 533 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 15: Follow the money. Did we think ten years ago that 534 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 15: DraftKings would be everywhere and in your face and every 535 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 15: sporting event and TV commercial? 536 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 2: Follow the money? 537 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 15: Hendrickson, why not tag in trade? 538 00:28:58,360 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 3: Follow the money? 539 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 15: What Ift wants to pay the franchise tag price? Then 540 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 15: you're stuck with a malcontent and, in my opinion, a 541 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 15: locker room cancer. 542 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 4: I love how he just builds up and builds up 543 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 4: and builds up. 544 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 16: Hey, guys, look, I don't know a whole lot about 545 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 16: all this, and I apologize if you've already talked about it, 546 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 16: But what about like a tag in trade for Hendrickson 547 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 16: and Max Crosby. Does that Does that make any sense? 548 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 16: Because it feels like they don't want to lose Max, 549 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 16: but he might be on his way out the door, 550 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 16: and we obviously don't want to lose the productivity that 551 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 16: Trey has. I'm just kind of curious if that would 552 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 16: make any sense for both sides of the of that deal. 553 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 2: I don't think so. 554 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, it does not make sense for either side. 555 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 2: Headed down to fifth third, tonight. 556 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 4: Come on, I'm hoping to see one final home win 557 00:29:52,600 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 4: for Day Day Baba, Jalen and Wes wait to slide 558 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 4: it in there. 559 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 2: That's well done, well guys, Jacob and Texas. 560 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 3: If the Bengals do not tag Trey, do you think 561 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 3: that they will offer him a one year deal that 562 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 3: they think it's fair to see if they can have 563 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 3: him again? 564 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 4: No, no, no, I think I have a better chance 565 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 4: of starting on the edge for the Bengals this year 566 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 4: than Trey Anderson. 567 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 2: You already know. 568 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 7: I was checking that interview out with Coach Sat. That's 569 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 7: what I'm talking about, Tony wrapping the city out here 570 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 7: and Sonny Man, it's getting hot Zona. 571 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 2: What up, Tony? What up? 572 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 7: Boddy Man? That was a fire interview. I mean, Coach 573 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 7: Sat brought my temperature down to the tag bitch. You 574 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 7: dig what I'm saying. He said the right things about Cincinnati, 575 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 7: Jeff Ruby, sports and all that. But can you win 576 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 7: in November and December for its Coach Sat? Because if not, 577 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 7: I want to flame it back up. But right now, 578 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 7: you got me right now? Anyway, Bearcats man gotta get 579 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 7: this win, trying to make that tournament run, trying. 580 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 2: To catch strut. 581 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 4: Okay, how about coach sat Okay, a little off season 582 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 4: leve Let's check back in November. 583 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 2: See what Ronnie ron has? Okay, hilloo, this. 584 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 5: Is former president Ronald rigging and as the late great 585 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 5: Neil Sedaka saying, breaking up is hard to do, and well, 586 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 5: that's what this thing between the Bengals and Trey Hendrickson 587 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 5: feels like Sadaka also saying love will keep us together. Right, 588 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 5: but there was just too much bad blood. Wow for 589 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 5: both sides to be laughing in the ring. 590 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 2: That's unbelievable. 591 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 7: Warp back for a double up, because you know why 592 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 7: y'all speaking straight facts about the Bengals front office. 593 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 2: Man, they better not bungle it up. Just don't. 594 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 7: Because I can't go through another Carson Palmer type deal. 595 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 7: And I understood what Costa Palmer did. I don't want 596 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 7: Joe Burrow doing that. You know what I'm saying. I'm 597 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 7: out here battling for my quarterback. 598 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 4: Out here, I'm getting shade throng at me. 599 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 2: Everybody wants my quarterback. 600 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 7: Joe Burrows, that quarterback, dude, he's even Cincinnati. I'm over 601 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 7: here going to battle for me, front office. Don't make 602 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 7: me look bad. Improve this team. 603 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 4: Come on, come on, yeah, yeah, I just I've said 604 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 4: it many times. I don't say the like I can 605 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 4: stress it enough. If Bengals fans, much like Ronnie ron 606 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 4: is describing there, have to go through another Carson Palmer 607 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 4: type of situation, it will do irreparable harm to the 608 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 4: future of that fan that Franchi doubt. There will be 609 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 4: scores and scores and scores and scores of fans yep, 610 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 4: that will leave generations, will not come back generations of 611 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 4: Bengal fans. 612 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 17: Tony Austin, big fans of the show, appreciate what you 613 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 17: guys do every day, really enjoy listening. 614 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 2: Well, thank you. 615 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 17: To have a question though, why are some of the 616 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 17: commercials in slow motion? It sounds like Freddy Krueger from 617 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 17: nineteen eighty six talking it's a little creepy. 618 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 4: Okay, Well, we are not experiencing that. I'm sorry that 619 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 4: you are. We don't get to control that. I would 620 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 4: ask you to close your iHeartRadio app, assuming you're listening 621 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 4: on the iHeartRadio app, close your app and reopen it, 622 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 4: and if it continues, please let us know because clearly 623 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 4: we don't want that. 624 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 18: Hey call me crazy, and you know I am crazy, 625 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:10,959 Speaker 18: Yes you will. 626 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 2: I apologize for my deep wheezy voice. I got a 627 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 2: deep chest cold going on. 628 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 18: Anyway, I'm looking at Matthew Stafford. I think as soon 629 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 18: as he retires, I think Burrow will go play for 630 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 18: Sean McVay to go for that ring. Mark it down, 631 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 18: you know. I think Burrow will be and I've had 632 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 18: enough of this crap. I'm going to go play for 633 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 18: Sean McVay in the LA Rams Well. I mean, he 634 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 18: does have a contract here in Cincinnati for the next 635 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 18: three or four years, so that's right. 636 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 19: A couple things about employee ninety one. I think his 637 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 19: number one problem is Harold Lewis is agent. This guy's 638 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 19: basically a Jerry Maguire. He represents one other guy making 639 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 19: over ten million bucks, and that's Mark haz Valdez. Scanley 640 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 19: probably ain't the league next season. If I'm Douke Toban, 641 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 19: I'm sitting down, I'm saying, Trey, we've shopped you around. 642 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 19: You're not worth what you're at. I'll give you a 643 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 19: one year extension with seventeen million bucks. 644 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 2: That's it. Take it or leave it. You can go 645 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 2: out there. 646 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 19: Harold can can pull a rabbit out of his hat 647 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 19: and get something for you. 648 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 2: But it's likely not going to happen. Stay in Cincinnati. 649 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 4: Or I did see that Craze agent and Shamar Stewart's agent. 650 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 4: We're headlining a clown convention in Newport. I don't know 651 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 4: if you saw that or not. 652 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 9: Okay, it's the Lord Happy Rainy Tuesday. Everybody, you gotta 653 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 9: start bench cut. If you're moving out of your house 654 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 9: Tony and Austin and you had these three people to 655 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 9: choose from him to help you move, start bench cut 656 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 9: the President Ronald Reagan, loud talkback guy Eddie Zelik. 657 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 2: I'd go, I'd start raging because he could rally the 658 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 2: masses and get help. Yeah, I'd bench loud talk that 659 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 2: guy because I know he's he's willing and able and 660 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,280 Speaker 2: he'll show up and then just by process of elimination, 661 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 2: ADDIE's Elik. 662 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. I've never met Eddie, so he would have to 663 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 4: be cut. And in that same vein, I think I 664 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 4: know the President the best, and uh yeah, I would start. Yeah, 665 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 4: I agree with you. 666 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 2: By the way, that the clown convention you mentioned, isn't 667 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 2: that where the Horizon League just did their voting. 668 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, all the coaches. Yeah right now. Doug Gottlieb also 669 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 4: a part of that. 670 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 20: Yep, Jerkson, you got so close to getting away with it, 671 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:23,720 Speaker 20: but you're pro far away. The journal, the ACL meniscual 672 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 20: tears for the Ohio State safety Well, Caleb slide downs 673 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 20: to the Bengals and it's deadline day. Any chance we 674 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 20: still see a tag and tray. 675 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 2: Question what you're doing? 676 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 20: Does Tony Pike get a discount on Senior Night at. 677 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 4: Uc pang You don't get a discount. 678 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 2: Oh, I get it. You are getting old though. 679 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 4: By the way, Pat McAfee his show very rarely are 680 00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 4: they the gold standard of journalism. I mean almost never, 681 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 4: But to his credit, his show and his team reached 682 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 4: out to multiple NFL teams about Caleb Downs this morning. 683 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 4: He said, they told us there is nothing in the 684 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 4: medical that would deter them from taking Caleb Downs. 685 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:23,240 Speaker 21: Okay, hey guys, happy Tuesday. Yeah, you guys are always 686 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 21: talking negative. It seemed like Joe Maman was wanting to 687 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 21: talk to everybody up to see the Reds are going 688 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 21: to do well, and you guys always take the opposite 689 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,760 Speaker 21: side of well, you're always on that negative side. 690 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 2: You guys got to look on the positive side. Sometimes, Man, 691 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 2: I'm just I don't know if I can entertain that. 692 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 4: I don't think you are like that. I think you're my. 693 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 2: Positive, disgustingly positive. 694 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 4: Too many times I will raise my hand and say, 695 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 4: when it comes to the Reds, I'm the most negative 696 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 4: person on the planet. And the reason for that is 697 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 4: that the Reds have sucked my entire life. My entire life. 698 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,839 Speaker 4: They have been terrible, And so I don't buy into pedigrees. 699 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 4: I don't buy into if I don't buy into the 700 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 4: back of the baseball card, I buy into what have 701 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 4: you done for me lately? And yeah, I think there's 702 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 4: plenty of reason to look at this team and say, yeah, 703 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 4: they have the talent, but there's a difference between talent 704 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 4: and execution. And for thirty years, the Reds have pulled 705 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 4: the rug out from underneath me, and they have not 706 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 4: advanced in the postseason. They have been a doormat for 707 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 4: most of that. So I don't choose to be positive 708 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 4: when I don't have anything to be positive about. 709 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 22: Fair Let's go you see, yeah, byu they're a little 710 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,280 Speaker 22: ever rated. They got one great player, you see, should 711 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 22: be smart enough double team him. I think Miami's adier 712 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 22: have tough games tonight. Hopefully the Bengals can get something 713 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 22: out of Trey Himrickson. Congratulations on being the San Patrick's 714 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 22: day Mark. 715 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Tony. I'll take it back. 716 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 21: You are positive when it comes to you. 717 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 4: See, I do appreciate that now, and that's not positivity 718 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 4: of all illusion. 719 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 2: Do you not remember every weekend series where I'm talking 720 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,959 Speaker 2: if the Red sweep, they're right back in the race. 721 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 18: If there this is Colonel Sanders here, Yeah, all day. 722 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 4: I just want to thank you for the suggestion of me. 723 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 2: Hold on, I'm gonna go yep, I'm not gonna Hey guys, TJ. 724 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 23: Does Bruce Pearl have one of those Insta face pages 725 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 23: and he's looking for clickbait? What an idiot? What a 726 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 23: more ronic statement about Miami. Who wouldn't want that team 727 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,839 Speaker 23: in there? We all love Cinderella. This Bangle story goes 728 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 23: one of two ways. The Bengals win a Super Bowl 729 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 23: under the Joe Burr administration, thirty five years of Mike 730 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,439 Speaker 23: Brown's utility is forgiven, or Mike brown ciments is mostly 731 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 23: already set in stone legacy as being one of the 732 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 23: worst professional sports franchise owners ever. Which one would you 733 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 23: lay your sprinkle sprinkled dripped on and. 734 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 4: When it comes to the Bengals, I am overwhelmed with positivity. 735 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 2: Yep, exactly. 736 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 4: You and I are like ships passing in the night 737 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 4: when it comes to these two, we are I believe, Hey, 738 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 4: Joe from Casey here, I do hate to see Trey leave. 739 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 2: And not get a thing for him. 740 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 17: But hear me out on this in fifteen years, when 741 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 17: we forget how it ended? 742 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 2: Ring of Honor? 743 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 4: Where's he at on the all time Bengals. 744 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 17: Sack list and led us to a super Bowl on 745 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,799 Speaker 17: defense in a couple AFC Championship games link depending where 746 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:32,720 Speaker 17: he's at on that list. 747 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 2: Just maybe I don't know. 748 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 4: Food for thought, whode. 749 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 23: Underrated Chipotle order If you're just looking for a quick 750 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 23: meal for cheap, you get a kid's meal, You get 751 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 23: a protein. 752 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,319 Speaker 2: I recommend steak. It's the same price as chicken. You 753 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 2: get some. 754 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 19: Rice, you get another size and bean, some corn. 755 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 2: You can mix it up any way you want. 756 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 10: You get a bag of chips, and you get a 757 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 10: drink for like five fifty. 758 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 2: You can't beat it there, you go, Okay, menu hacks. 759 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 10: Hey, if you're having a good day, I just want 760 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 10: to also mention. 761 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 2: That, yeah, some of the ads on the app. 762 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,839 Speaker 3: Are kind of in slow motion, a little weird. 763 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 4: Okay, we'll look into it. We apologize. Hey, guys, it's 764 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:13,720 Speaker 4: a bright and blush. 765 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:19,760 Speaker 24: Anyways, I got a second that you guys are so 766 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 24: so so negative. I mean, I can't listen all the 767 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 24: time because I can't have this type of negativity in 768 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 24: my life, the stress it creates. We live in a 769 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 24: wonderful community, and our athletic programs collegiately and professionally are awesome. 770 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,760 Speaker 24: Why are you too so negative? 771 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 2: We talked about her. 772 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 4: We talked about this once before that there's a difference 773 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,319 Speaker 4: in the way that our brain works. Tony looks at 774 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 4: everything and says, Okay, how could this go right? I 775 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 4: look at everything and say, how could this go wrong? 776 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 4: And maybe the times we're both off, Yeah, maybe that's 777 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,279 Speaker 4: why we work so well together with a little bit 778 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 4: of yin and yang. 779 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 2: I don't know. 780 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 6: Wow, preach Austin. I'm on the exact same page, exact 781 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 6: same page. But yeah, it's been a long time since 782 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 6: ninety one or seventy five or whatever past. 783 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 2: I want present results. 784 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,800 Speaker 6: Way to go, Austin, lay it out there. 785 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 2: Bro, wow, Ski, thank you. 786 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 4: By the way, there was a guy over the weekend 787 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 4: spring training game. His last name was bro b r 788 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 4: ea u XM's be little Louisiana. 789 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,439 Speaker 2: No, I like that? All right, We're done, Okay, one 790 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 2: segment when we return, Yes, sir, one segment. We'll finish 791 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 2: up our number two segment. That happens next on the 792 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,479 Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 793 00:41:49,280 --> 00:42:01,880 Speaker 1: You Pike Sincy three sixty continues now on ESPN fifteen thirty. 794 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 2: Welcome back since he three sixty ESBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati 795 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 2: Sports Station. Let's do this Austin, twenty three days away 796 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 2: from the Cincinnati Reds returning to Great American Ballpark for 797 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 2: the day that is known as Opening Day. Here in 798 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 2: the city of Cincinnati. No one does it better than 799 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 2: the Reds on Opening Day. And when you think now 800 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 2: twenty three days away, is there a name or two 801 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,919 Speaker 2: that stands out to you? Because I immediately I told 802 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 2: you today I hadn't looked at the list yet. I 803 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 2: think of Jason LaRue, of course, yeah, the catcher for 804 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,839 Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Reds. How could you not think of old 805 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 2: Jason LaRue. It's a great one. Who else did you 806 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,839 Speaker 2: think of, Well, I thought of a guy like Nick Martini. 807 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 2: Oh shaken, not starts right, And I'm was going to 808 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 2: try to play his opening day home runs from a 809 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 2: couple of years they're gone. There's a couple of twenty 810 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,400 Speaker 2: threes that could have been. What IFFs what if Jeff 811 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 2: Hoffman had been the Jeff Hoffman we see now sure 812 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 2: as a red be a much different story one. What 813 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,839 Speaker 2: about Adam Davall who had went had a very good 814 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 2: career with the Atlanta Braves. 815 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 4: Well, don't forget back in nineteen fifty two. Jim Greengrass, 816 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 4: Jimmy green Grass. I mean there were some names here. 817 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,760 Speaker 4: What about what about that same year old Dick Sisler, 818 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:30,440 Speaker 4: Or you've got Augie Gallen, Jim Boger, Ron Northy, Jim Greengrass, 819 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 4: Dick Sisler, Wally Westlake. I mean, who's who of all 820 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 4: time names? And we always got to remember Lee May, 821 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 4: the big bopper, that's right. I always wanted Lee May 822 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 4: to be number twenty four because my birthday is May 823 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,879 Speaker 4: twenty fourth, and I wanted to get a Lee May 824 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 4: jersey because I thought that would have been cool. 825 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 2: The Great Doug Flynn, the Glue, Doug Flynn Rock, the 826 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 2: number twenty three, Douglynn More, good guy. That was a 827 00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 2: how Morris fan growing up. 828 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,239 Speaker 4: Of course he's a fan favorite for sure. 829 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:05,280 Speaker 2: What about obscure red here nineteen ninety nine, Greg Vaughan? 830 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 4: Of course, one year with the club, just launched a 831 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,840 Speaker 4: bunch of homers, Greg vaugh Don, what's the German fella? 832 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,359 Speaker 2: Can you guess in that nineteen ninety nine year, how 833 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:17,719 Speaker 2: many home runs Greg Vaughan hit? 834 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 4: Did he hit like? Thirty nine? Forty five, forty five? 835 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:25,800 Speaker 2: One year after hitting fifty for the padres Man Greg Vaughn. 836 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,600 Speaker 4: Didn't the Reds change their facial hair policy for him? 837 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,399 Speaker 4: Probably wasn't that a thing? Did I make that up? 838 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,319 Speaker 2: I don't know. Somebody probably knows. 839 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 5: I don't know. 840 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 2: All Right, we're out of the time. We gotta go. 841 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,319 Speaker 2: When we come back, let's kick off our number three 842 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 2: with some college basketball. We'll do that next. And your 843 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 2: phone calls five, one, three, seven, four, nine, fifteen thirty 844 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. This is Jim. 845 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:47,960 Speaker 4: Hello, Jim