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Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike since three sixty about Cincinnati. From Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: this is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back at Sincy three sixty hour, number three. So

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Speaker 2: let's talk college hoops and we will get to the massive,

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Speaker 2: massive college basketball slate that is happening this evening and

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Speaker 2: for the rest of the week as the Horizon League

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Speaker 2: Tournament is underway. The regular season for the Big East

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Speaker 2: and the Big Twelve will wrap up this coming weekend.

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Speaker 2: Some big games tonight, but a lot, a lot of

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Speaker 2: noise ahead of the Xavier Providence game was coming out

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Speaker 2: around Xavier's campus with some reports that maybe Richard Patino

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Speaker 2: could be on the move somewhere else.

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Speaker 3: Xavier fans still have a little PTSD. I think from

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Speaker 3: all Shawnee Miller they do. And that's why I wanted

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Speaker 3: to kick off our number three with this, because this

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Speaker 3: he's ever been called Shawnee before.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, this gem of a woman. We know her by Sue.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to Paul Fritchner, because I saw Paul fritchnand posted

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Speaker 2: this last night at the Richard Patino radio show.

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Speaker 3: You can also just get it on the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 3: It's on our it's a market. It's the Richard Patino

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Speaker 3: Radio fantastic. It's a great show, and we podcast and

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Speaker 3: Taran producers.

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Speaker 2: And Patino's awesome, and I love the way he's kind

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Speaker 2: of attacked and he gets out ahead of this. But

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Speaker 2: let's start with Sue who had this question, and then

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Speaker 2: you're gonna hear Richard Patino's response right after it.

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Speaker 4: So I think I speak for a lot of fans

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Speaker 4: that we appreciate your style at the coaches Show. Thank

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Speaker 4: your funny informative, your insights into the players are really entertaining,

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Speaker 4: and I appreciate how well you know your players.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: So, of course rumors are flying around.

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Speaker 2: I'll take the compliment. Well that's that's a good setup. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're you're.

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Speaker 4: Bold, and I just wanted to tell you, we hope

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Speaker 4: you don't thank.

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Speaker 5: You, Thank you, thank you, I said, Well, I was

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Speaker 5: telling Byron this.

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Speaker 2: You know, you never ever know.

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Speaker 5: With the world of Twitter, what bombs are going to

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Speaker 5: hit you at any moment, you know, And I remember

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Speaker 5: the day of the Providence game. All of a sudden,

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Speaker 5: your phone's buzzing and I'm like, what is going on here?

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Speaker 5: So I tried to squash that quickly.

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Speaker 6: Here.

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Speaker 2: Here's what I could tell everybody here.

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Speaker 5: I promise you I will never leave after a fourteen

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Speaker 5: or fifteen win season, because uh, that's not that that's

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Speaker 5: not my intent at all. You know, I appreciate greatly

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Speaker 5: what Savior has given me. Will I say I'm never

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Speaker 5: going to leave. I have no idea. I have no idea.

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Speaker 5: They may tell me to leave in a couple of years.

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Speaker 2: I haven't. That's happened to me as well.

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Speaker 5: But what I can tell you, what I really, really,

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Speaker 5: really pride myself in, is building a championship program.

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Speaker 2: I left New Mexico. I loved New Mexico.

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Speaker 5: I didn't want to leave, but I held my hot

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Speaker 5: head high in the sense that I cut down two

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Speaker 5: nets in a row. I went to the NCAA tournament

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Speaker 5: twice and felt like I gave everything to New Mexico.

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Speaker 5: I have not given a lot to Xavier just yet.

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Speaker 5: So if that tells you what my answer is right there, like,

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Speaker 5: we've got a lot of work to do and the

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Speaker 3: Not even close to finish.

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Speaker 5: So I would tell you nobody needs to worry about

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Speaker 5: any of the stuff they're reading on the internet. Those

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Speaker 5: things are really, really hard when people tweet those things out.

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Speaker 5: And I was telling Byron this, like, for one speculation,

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Speaker 5: when a coach still has a job, it's really really

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Speaker 5: hard for me to ever address something like that, you

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Speaker 5: to how hard this profession is. But with that being said,

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Speaker 5: I hope to build a championship team here. I want

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Speaker 5: to win the Big East in the worst way. At Xavier,

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Speaker 5: we're not even close to there yet, So all my

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Speaker 5: promise you as well. This girl wants to finish her

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Speaker 5: high school at Summit and she's got three more years,

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Speaker 5: so there you go, me a couple more years. But

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Speaker 5: we really do I mean, the one thing I hope

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Speaker 5: you guys learn about me, I don't really speak and

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Speaker 5: it was received as well as it could ever have

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Speaker 5: The next thing we got to do is win a

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Speaker 5: lot more games and that's the plan moving forward.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I like. The way this guy operates.

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Speaker 2: Man very easy to be like, yeah, I'm not talking

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Speaker 2: about any of that, that's crazy. And I think what

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Speaker 3: And shout out to Sue speaking of journalism.

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Speaker 2: No, I like what he said too. Of Look, I

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Speaker 2: honest with the process. And I've talked about on this

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Speaker 2: show before. The way Mark D'Antonio left when I was

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Speaker 2: exactly that. Mark D'Antonio was open, he was honest, He

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Speaker 2: that it's true what Richard Patino said. They got to

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Speaker 2: win a lot more games at Xavier. They got a

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Speaker 2: bite into that tonight at the Centas Center against Seaton Hall.

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Speaker 2: For Xavier, it's a chance to get their seventh Big

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Speaker 2: back to five hundred on the season. They sit at

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Speaker 2: fourteen and fifteen. You want to talk about implications and

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Speaker 2: If you are a team like you see that has

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Speaker 2: You also need other teams to help you out as well.

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Speaker 2: Tonight Xavier is one of those teams. If you are

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Speaker 2: and the biggest thing for Miami right now. Austin, I

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Speaker 2: kind of what needs to happen. What do you view

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Speaker 2: if they fall short in the MAC Tournament?

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Speaker 3: Yes, Yeah, I don't think you can keep a team

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Speaker 2: Season, Yes, with one conference tournament loss.

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Speaker 3: I also don't think I think if they're undfeated in

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Nebraska Ucla tonight is a team A lot of

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Speaker 2: But a lot of local action tonight that will kind

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Speaker 2: but more importantly, you can hear it on seven hundred

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Speaker 2: an interesting BYU team because as of the latest Lonardi bracketology,

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Speaker 2: he's still got BYU as a six seed. But BYU

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Speaker 2: two Quad one opportunities left tonight at Fifthirth Arena, quad

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Speaker 2: if you follow the net rankings in college basketball, TCU

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Speaker 3: A How is it possible that it doesn't like it

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Speaker 2: Now? There are like there are there are places that

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Speaker 3: I think it's a hard foul, comes down hard, just

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati Sports Station, No.

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Speaker 3: Man, this world can take.

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Speaker 2: You, Bob.

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Speaker 3: And Temph Soul. Oh man, do you remember this?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Between the Devil and me here.

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Speaker 3: I forgot all about this. I just found it during

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Speaker 2: No, yep, they get it.

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Speaker 3: Man, I think this is this is I think you

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Speaker 2: This on might half. I know I had goosebumps. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Gates of hell. That's what pictures see you when going

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Speaker 2: I mean not only Maddy long Pants, how about this

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Speaker 3: But well, Brady Singer didn't get any help. I don't

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Speaker 3: I think Tommy Thrall described the official scorer as Oprah

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Speaker 3: The worst part about that is the walks. Yeah, those

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Speaker 2: Agreed, Agreed, But nonetheless, the walks are are talking point

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, if Graham Ashcraft keeps doing what he's doing,

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Speaker 2: But you talk about a guy multiple Tommy John surgeries

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and there are certainly things that you take it

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Speaker 3: there and sometimes they kind of flatten. But I mean,

436
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Speaker 3: everybody is going through that. Every pitcher is dealing with that,

437
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Speaker 3: and it's not uncommon. And there are also guys that

438
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Speaker 3: don't hit the ball very well in spring training. And

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Speaker 3: the other part to me that I think is important

440
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Speaker 3: is they put up six earned runs on Jamison Tyn

441
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Speaker 3: hit two homers against Jamison Town. It's not like the

442
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Speaker 3: Cubs were out there throwing their worst minor leaguers. I mean,

443
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Speaker 3: James and Tyne has had a very good big league

444
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Speaker 3: career and he's no slouch. He's gonna be a guy

445
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Speaker 3: who pitches some big innings for the Cubs this year.

446
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Speaker 3: And so to be able to do that against quality

447
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Speaker 3: pitching and not just low end non roster guys is important.

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Speaker 2: Mentioned this with Joe Daneman at the start of our

449
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Speaker 2: number two but MLB dot com David Adler put together

450
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Speaker 2: a list of some of Spring training's most impressive performers

451
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Speaker 2: up to this point cutting off today, and Chase Burns

452
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Speaker 2: was listed on that list number one. He had Carlos

453
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Speaker 2: Lagrange for the Yankees. His average fastball velocity he's been

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Speaker 2: at one hundred miles an hour. Twenty two year old

455
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Speaker 2: prospect has been killing it for the Yankees. Number two,

456
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Speaker 2: Caglioni for the Royals. Number three. We've talked about Connor

457
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Speaker 2: Griffin a lot for the Pittsburgh Pirates, but number four

458
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Speaker 2: on his list Chase Burns. Last year four five seven ERA.

459
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Speaker 2: It says as a rookie that era doesn't show ridiculously

460
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Speaker 2: how nasty he is. Pay attention to the thirty six

461
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Speaker 2: percent strikeout rate and thirty two percent swinging misrate last year,

462
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Speaker 2: and he's doin it again this year. Two outings so far,

463
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Speaker 2: he's getting swinging misses on fifty four percent of his pitches.

464
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Speaker 2: That's the second highest whiff rate of any pitcher with

465
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Speaker 2: at least twenty five swings that get him against him

466
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Speaker 2: in spring training ninety seven average on the fastball, forty

467
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Speaker 2: one percent with rate. And how about this Austin the

468
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Speaker 2: slider that we talked about with Chase Burns, seventy five

469
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Speaker 2: percent with rate, ninety mile an hour average. Right now,

470
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Speaker 2: he has been absolutely nasty and others not just here

471
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Speaker 2: in Cincinnati. We anyone that's been at spring training has

472
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Speaker 2: talked about Chase Burns. He's being talked about at a

473
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Speaker 2: national level as well. Right now, he's been awesome. Let's

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Speaker 2: take a break. When we come back, We'll grab a

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Speaker 2: couple of your phone calls before getting to Moegar on

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Welcome back since he

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Speaker 2: three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Before we

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Speaker 2: get to Mowegor, Let's grab a couple of your phone calls.

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Speaker 2: Greg is calling in. What's going on? Greg?

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Speaker 6: How much you know when you were mentioned in the

481
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Speaker 6: Bearcats what they had to do? And you know I've

482
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 6: heard this before, you know, on Selection Sunday. But I

483
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 6: think another real big thing to add is if, and

484
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Speaker 6: that's a big if they can get that four game

485
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Speaker 6: winning straight, because I've heard you know, over the years,

486
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 6: I said, well, this team only won nineteen games, but

487
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 6: you know they once sticked out of their last seven.

488
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 6: They had a strong finish, and I think that strong

489
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 6: finish really sticks out any way he can get it.

490
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 6: And then on Maddy Longpan, I really think that the

491
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Speaker 6: fact that he had such he had a shoulder injury,

492
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Speaker 6: and I'm just hoping that that's what kept him down.

493
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Speaker 6: And you know, I always parking back to you know,

494
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Speaker 6: Devin Mezeraka about fifteen years ago that shoulder injury finished him.

495
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Speaker 6: So you know, I just think that could be, you know, we'll.

496
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Speaker 3: Hold him back. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: And one other day, I want to mention, you know,

498
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Speaker 6: I always like Mike's phone calls, but he said I

499
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Speaker 6: think was last week we were talking about Gus Bell

500
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Speaker 6: and while we post and how Gus Bell finished is

501
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Speaker 6: a platoon with Wally, Well, let me tell you that

502
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Speaker 6: never happened. Gus Bell was a good hitter. He's the

503
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Speaker 6: top center other than he may back in the day,

504
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 6: he was the top center fielder period, and he didn't

505
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Speaker 6: push him with with So anyway, that's not a big deal.

506
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Speaker 6: I guess that wasn't the fact for Mike.

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Speaker 2: All good. Greg, by the way we play at noon

508
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Speaker 2: on Sunday tournament action.

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Speaker 6: What was when is the time of my most important?

510
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Speaker 2: That's it noon high noon on Sunday. Okay, I love it.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Greg, Hey, Bud, you know, shout out Austin to

512
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Speaker 2: Greg who has back to back weeks come and checked

513
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Speaker 2: out the Evendale Rec League on Sunday and was nice

514
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 2: enough this past Sunday he brought me a birthday card,

515
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 2: wow from him and his wife.

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Speaker 3: Well, Greg is incredibly kind to you and I, you know,

517
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Speaker 3: I worry he must not have much going on if

518
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 3: he's going as on Sundays back to back weeks.

519
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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 3: You want to talk about missing football season?

521
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Speaker 2: Tournament time coming up on Sunday as well. We're ready

522
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Speaker 2: to go. Mike is calling in. What's up? Mike?

523
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Speaker 6: Hey, guys, thanks for letting me on. Did that guy

524
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Speaker 6: that just called say something about Wally posted Ptun with

525
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Speaker 6: gust Bell?

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Speaker 3: That's he said that? You were incorrect?

527
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Speaker 6: You're well, he's dead ass long. Okay. I don't know

528
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Speaker 6: who this clown is, but he's wrong.

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Speaker 3: All right. We don't need to call names. We like Greg.

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Speaker 3: Greg's a good guy.

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Speaker 6: I'm sure he is a good guy. But he's wrong

532
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Speaker 6: on that because Wally Posts only played right field or

533
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Speaker 6: left field, I'm sorry, and Gustbell only played left field.

534
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Speaker 6: Why because Frank Robinson owned right field and Dada Penson

535
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 6: owns center field. So you're wrong, my friends, I'm sure

536
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 6: you're a wonderful man, but you're wrong.

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Speaker 3: Well, they both you know, if you go back to

538
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Speaker 3: the fifties, Mike, I mean they're both when they were

539
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Speaker 3: both playing for the Reds. They're both playing at one

540
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Speaker 3: hundred and fifty plus games a year.

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Speaker 6: Well, no, they both didn't play one hundred and fifty

542
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Speaker 6: plus games a year because they platooned him in left field.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking at the stats right now. In fifty four,

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Speaker 3: Gus Bell played in one hundred and fifty three games

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Speaker 3: with the Reds. In fifty five he played in one

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Speaker 3: hundred and fifty four. And fifty six he played in

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Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty. What about Wally and Wally post

548
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Speaker 3: in nineteen fifty four played in one hundred and thirty.

549
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Speaker 3: In nineteen fifty five, he played in one hundred and

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Speaker 3: fifty four. In nineteen fifty six he played one hundred

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Speaker 3: and forty three.

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Speaker 6: And here's the reason for that, because Gus was a

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Speaker 6: left handed left fielder, which is more advantageous, and he

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Speaker 6: a lot of times came in for defensive reasons depending

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Speaker 6: on the pitcher. Anyway, I won't be labor that point,

556
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Speaker 6: but I know what I saw at Crosley Field probably

557
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Speaker 6: fifty times as a young Laddiebuck and the guy that

558
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Speaker 6: called earlier that said, you know if Wes Miller Smart

559
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Speaker 6: Bill double team the prolific scorer from Brigham up, Well, buddy,

560
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Speaker 6: if it was that easy, everybody would have done that

561
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Speaker 6: and the guy wouldn't be the score or he is.

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Speaker 6: So it's not as easy as that, am I correct?

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Speaker 2: Tony correct? I think what's the hardest part about de

564
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Speaker 2: Bonsta is his game is all around. He's very hard

565
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Speaker 2: to double because of how well he moves without the basketball.

566
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Speaker 2: He's not just a guy that requires the ball in

567
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Speaker 2: his hands at all times. And if you look at

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Speaker 2: the success other teams have had UCF crushed BYU, de

569
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Speaker 2: Bonsta had twenty nine. He had thirty five in a

570
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Speaker 2: loss against Arizona. He had thirty six and a two

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Speaker 2: point win against Baylor. What I'm getting at is there

572
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Speaker 2: are a lot of games this year that BYU has

573
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Speaker 2: lost and de Bonsta has had fantastic games Without Saunders.

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Speaker 2: My approach would be, Okay, I know Debons is going

575
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Speaker 2: to get his I can't let anybody else go off.

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Speaker 2: If I can contain the other four and de bons

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Speaker 2: to scores thirty, I still think the Bearcats can win

578
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Speaker 2: the game.

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Speaker 6: I Well, I know the bear Tat can win the

580
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Speaker 6: game if those two big guys do anything and then

581
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Speaker 6: deep data shows up.

582
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Speaker 2: I just don't think you put so much focus on

583
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Speaker 2: AJ because other teams haven't. He's gonna get his points.

584
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Speaker 2: Just don't let anyone else go off for big nights

585
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Speaker 2: against you.

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Speaker 6: I got you. Well, we're rooting for the Cats cards.

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Speaker 6: Let's see if you give me another minute, get my

588
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 6: brain back in gear here. Do you think it's possible

589
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Speaker 6: if if if Burns and either Petty or what's the

590
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Speaker 6: other guys, the other rookies. Yeah, if either one of

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Speaker 6: those guys turns out great. I wonder if Tito would

592
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Speaker 6: consider a six man rotation because there are two or

593
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Speaker 6: three other managers in the league that are going to

594
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Speaker 6: six man rotations this year to save some arms.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's the big thing. I think it's

596
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Speaker 2: the it's the inning. Is there an innying restriction on

597
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 2: Chase Burns? Is there one on Red Louder because that

598
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 2: would maybe help you out in that sense.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 2: But but I look what Joe Daniman said today. He

601
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Speaker 2: could see a scenario where by the end of the year,

602
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Speaker 2: Chase Burns is not battling for the fifth spot, but

603
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Speaker 2: he's he's your two or three in the rotation. I

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Speaker 2: think he's got that much upside.

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Speaker 6: Well, let's hope, So, boy, that would be an awesome situation,

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Speaker 6: wouldn't it.

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00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 2: Yes, seventy rate on the slider right now is pretty good.

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Speaker 6: That's pretty good. But again, we can't put we don't

609
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Speaker 6: want to get too high on this spring training stuff.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's hard not to because you do it

611
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Speaker 6: out of hope, right out of like yeah, but it's it,

612
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Speaker 6: but it's really not very realistic. And last, but not least,

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Speaker 6: I think the four best teams in college basketball Arizona, Yukon, Florida,

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Speaker 6: and Duke. That's not a genius revelation. However, wouldn't it

615
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Speaker 6: be cool if each one could be in a separate region,

616
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Speaker 6: if they would do it the way they should, Yukon

617
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Speaker 6: would be in the East, Duke would be in the Southeast.

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Speaker 6: I don't know then Zona is going to be out well,

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Speaker 6: so it depends how they distribute Yukon, Florida and Duke.

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Speaker 2: Right Yes, I think right now it's it's hard to

621
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Speaker 2: go against Florida, but it's also hard to go against

622
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Speaker 2: the way Duke's playing right now as well.

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Speaker 6: You're right, But I just hope that two of those

624
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Speaker 6: teams aren't in the same dog Bone Christ because then

625
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Speaker 6: you're not going to see one of them. Yeah, and

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Speaker 6: you see any teams at this point that you think

627
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Speaker 6: could just get hot and blow people. I thought Arkansas,

628
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Speaker 6: but not anymore.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I think over the next week

630
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Speaker 2: or so you still might see a little bit of separation.

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Speaker 2: Michigan State's always dangerous this time of the year. Yeah, Michigan. Yeah,

632
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Speaker 2: Michigan with their bigs in the style they play. I

633
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Speaker 2: think Saint John's if they're playing the right basketball and

634
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Speaker 2: can score it. Alabama is always a team because of

635
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 2: the percentage in which they shoot outside. But those top

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00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 2: four right now are those top five when you throw

637
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Speaker 2: Florida into the mix, I think it's hard to go

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Speaker 2: against any of that.

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Speaker 6: Asking are you going over to Tony's March Madness party

640
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 6: on Friday when you guys are off, it's gonna be wild?

641
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 3: No, I didn't get invited, unfortunately.

642
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, my buddy goes down to that bar everybody likes

643
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 6: and ready, and he said, the deal is everybody's going

644
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Speaker 6: to Tony's house.

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Speaker 2: That's that's news to me. I will not be in

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Speaker 2: attendance at that one. Thanks guys, have a good one.

647
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 2: We got to get some Bell and Wally conversation going.

648
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 2: We've got to get to the bottom of that well.

649
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 2: I was looking it up.

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Speaker 3: I think I'm leaning towards Greg. I'm leaning towards.

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Speaker 2: I'll discuss when I see with Greg on Sunday more

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Speaker 2: with Mowagger, he joins us next. Yes, prepared, and I

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Speaker 2: know that he will. Cincinnati Sports Station. Now it's time

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Speaker 2: for a quick hits on to t since he.

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Speaker 3: Was looking for closing the building, got three year extensions

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Speaker 3: Tony Moe. It is being reported by Tom pellisero, Ian

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Speaker 3: Rapaport and others that the Cincinnati Bengals officially are not

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Speaker 3: tagging Trey Hendrickson. Hendrickson will become an unrestricted free agent,

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Speaker 3: and as Ian Rapaport said, quote, one of the NFL's

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Speaker 3: best is free.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait till the moment he signs elsewhere and

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Speaker 2: then everyone, as a Bengals fans just lose their mind

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Speaker 2: because he signed for that and we couldn't do that.

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Speaker 8: There's gonna be there's gonna be one more thing that

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Speaker 8: happens here, just one more, like just weird, like Trey's

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Speaker 8: gonna show up at a Bengals practice or something, even

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Speaker 8: after he signed with another team.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna be like a parting shot, you know.

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Speaker 8: In twenty twelve, I I went through a divorce. My

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Speaker 8: first wife and I got separated in April, but we

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Speaker 8: had the divorce hearing in July. Very amicable divorce. If

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Speaker 8: you have to get a divorce, this was the way

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Speaker 8: to do it. But I remember, like, after three months

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Speaker 8: of kind of knowing like, all right, the court date

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Speaker 8: is here, walking into that courthouse with her and looking

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Speaker 8: at her, going like we're really doing this. And that's

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Speaker 8: how I feel about Trey Hendrickson. Man, I'm ready to

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Speaker 8: move on, but I'm not entirely sure.

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Speaker 3: I'm ready to move on.

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Speaker 8: I have and we have, together, the three of us,

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Speaker 8: we have milked this cow to the point that the

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Speaker 8: teens have rations. The cow has been very good to us.

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Speaker 8: First ballot fifteen thirty Ring of Honor inductee, so as

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Speaker 8: a Bengals fan, best free agent signing in the history

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Speaker 8: of the franchise, as a sports talk radio host, Trey,

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Speaker 8: thank you, yes, thank you for the last two years.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for showing up before you went and played eighteen.

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Speaker 8: It's been an absolutely awesome run. And by the way,

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Speaker 8: just the last two years, part of two years ago.

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Speaker 8: I'm not even sure we ever talked about him other

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Speaker 8: than him sacking the quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Trey.

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Speaker 8: Thank you, yes, thank you for everything you have done

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Speaker 8: for this radio station. Thank you for all the hours

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Speaker 8: of content you've helped us with. And I will never

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Speaker 8: forget you. That picture of him that we have in

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Speaker 8: studio is never coming down.

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Speaker 2: What a happy moment, the joy. There's a lot of

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Speaker 2: pictures in here that might never come down. Wow, chemistry pictures.

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Speaker 2: It's just a lot. What do you got coming up

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Speaker 2: on the program today?

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Speaker 8: Paul Danner Junior is going to be with us to

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Speaker 8: talk about free agency. I only have one half of

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Speaker 8: a segment for Trey with Paul, but there's a lot.

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Speaker 3: For just a half to a half segment.

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Speaker 8: Okay, I'm not sure there's a human being alive who

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Speaker 8: feels more ready to move on from Trey Hendrickson than

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Speaker 8: Paul Danner, mainly because I've made him talk about him.

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Speaker 3: Every day for two years.

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Speaker 8: Scott's apps going to walk in smoke a cigar today, Nobe,

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Speaker 8: he has one for me Scott Sadderfield's on the show

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Speaker 8: at four oh five, and Hunter Samsum, the official bracketologist

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Speaker 8: of our show, and apparently Lances Yes. Does this always

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Speaker 8: happen where I find folks to get on and then

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Speaker 8: they just get cherry picked?

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Speaker 6: Yep?

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Speaker 2: What's hard to think about the Bearcats.

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Speaker 8: We're gonna find out at five oh five. What does

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Speaker 8: he think about the red Hawks? What do you think

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Speaker 8: about the RedHawks?

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Speaker 3: I think if they win their next two games or

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Speaker 3: a tournament team.

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Speaker 2: I said today, if they lose one of the next

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Speaker 2: two and don't win the MAC Championship but can get dicey, I.

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Speaker 8: Don't think they're getting in. I think they have two losses.

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Speaker 8: They're not getting in.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 8: I mean, i'd feel bad, but I don't think they

729
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Speaker 8: can survive two losses because they're not Q one. No,

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Speaker 8: we would see if they lost to Akron, but they're

731
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Speaker 8: not going to be Q one or Q two losses,

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Speaker 8: lose a Toledo at home and then losing the MAC tournament.

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Speaker 8: I find it unfortunately hard to believe that Miami is

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Speaker 8: gonna have its name called on selections sign.

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Speaker 2: I have finalized my Bearcat take twenty is the number.

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Speaker 2: Okay with the committee, they see twenty wins, they then go, okay,

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Speaker 2: well what are they in the Big twelve? Whoa ten

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Speaker 2: and eight? Okay, winning record in the Big twelve. Maybe

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Speaker 2: at that point they say in and they don't keep

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Speaker 2: scrolling down and see if they lost to Eastern Michigan.

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Speaker 2: Oh it had to be at home. Yeah, it obviously

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Speaker 2: starts tonight, and I think if if they win tonight,

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Speaker 2: this discussion becomes a little bit louder going forward, but

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Speaker 2: should be a good opportunity and hopefully it's a great

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Speaker 2: environment tonight at fifth third orree you think.

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Speaker 8: It will be like it's aj debantsa likely to be

747
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Speaker 8: the top overall pick in the draft. It's a winnable game.

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Speaker 8: I was wrong. I thought they'd be slight dogs, their

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Speaker 8: slight favorites, and they do have an at large chance.

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Speaker 3: It's not a great one.

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Speaker 8: And you know, if the Bearcats win the next four, okay,

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Speaker 8: then what do all those teams in front of them do?

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Speaker 8: Lots to happen, but like force force the committee's hand,

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Speaker 8: like make it a conversation.

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Speaker 3: I would feel great if they won the next five.

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Speaker 2: Sure, if you win the next four, though, you make

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Speaker 2: the argument how well they're playing going into the tournament. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how much that would bode for them,

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Speaker 2: but I think that would be at least a conversation long.

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Speaker 8: Time ago, when I was a kid, it was how

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Speaker 8: are you doing in your last ten They don't really

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Speaker 8: view that as they were part of the process. But

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Speaker 8: I think the thing for me that I hang my

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Speaker 8: hat on is they're playing well. I mean, five of

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Speaker 8: the last six games, I think in four and a

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Speaker 8: half of them, they've played like more than just an

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Speaker 8: NCAA tournament team. The team that I've watched for the

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Speaker 8: better part of the last three and a half weeks

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Speaker 8: can win each of these next four games. And I

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Speaker 8: say that not completely knowing who they would play in

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Speaker 8: the first two in Kansas City, But to me from

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Speaker 8: a basketball perspective, like you give them a shot against

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Speaker 8: BYU because of how they are playing, and you give

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Speaker 8: them a shot on the road against DCU because of

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Speaker 8: how they're playing, and you give them a shot in

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Speaker 8: Kansas City because of how they're playing. Now watch tonight,

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Speaker 8: they'll go like two for twenty one from behind the arc.

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Speaker 8: But they are they do look the part, and they

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Speaker 8: are playing well enough to rattle off a bunch of wins.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned a bombsta obviously, No, Richie Sounders is a

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Speaker 2: big deal you put on your coaching How are you

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Speaker 2: trying to limit him? Or like, I'm looking at their

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Speaker 2: their recent games thirty thirty five, twenty nine, twenty nine,

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Speaker 2: twenty four, but they've lost three of those, Like so

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Speaker 2: it's almost like, do you let him say, Hey, he's

786
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Speaker 2: gonna get his but we're not gonna let anyone else

787
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Speaker 2: be think so, he's so talented, he works off the ball,

788
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Speaker 2: you're not gonna take him out of the game.

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Speaker 8: It was interesting, you know, the different types of players.

790
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Speaker 8: But last week Christian Anderson, they they didn't change how

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Speaker 8: they defended.

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Speaker 2: Him, No, they did not, and they ran two.

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Speaker 8: Guys at him and couldn't really figure out a way

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Speaker 8: to stop anybody else or for that matter, Christian Anderson.

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Speaker 8: So I wonder if there's something that could be applied

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Speaker 8: from that game to tonight.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited for it.

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm stoked.

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Speaker 2: Yes, before we get to that, I get to the

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Speaker 2: Mowagger Show shortened version because of Kentucky basketball by the way,

801
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Speaker 2: at five thirty for UK hoops. All right, we'll see

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Speaker 2: you down there for the early half hour.

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Speaker 8: I think they should bring Trey Hendrickson tonight to the

804
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Speaker 8: game tonight. Just one final, just one final. Yeah, he's

805
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 8: got to do one more silly thing.

806
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Speaker 3: Leak the text with Zach Taylor on his way out,

807
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Speaker 3: show the screenshots that he talked about.

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Speaker 2: Also, if you're a bubble watcher, go Muskies tonight as well.

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Speaker 2: Without question. Need the Muskies, without question. A lot of

810
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Speaker 2: good college basketball tonight. Mowager Next, have a great rest

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Speaker 2: of your Tuesday. Thanks for listening, and enjoy The Mowagger

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Speaker 2: Show on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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