1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: Oh see, can you see neither do. 2 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 2: Early? 3 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 1: What's over? And the twilight last me it's. 4 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 3: A quote slapshot. I'm listening to the song. 5 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: I'm listening to the song. 6 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 3: I'm listening to the song. 7 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: Let's start the show. 8 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 3: Folks say that is proof. Ever it fits you can 9 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 3: sing in me. I just know my limitations. All right, 10 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 3: the waiting period is over. We're back. We're finally doing 11 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 3: this once again. Breaks in the rear view mirror. Welcome 12 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 3: back to Cracking Weekly. From the brief hiatus we had 13 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 3: from earlier this month of the Olympics, are finally in 14 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 3: the books the Cracking. We are now on the eve 15 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 3: of seeing this stretch drive underway once again. And my goodness, 16 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 3: we can't wait for this. They are in a playoff spot. 17 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 3: We'll see where this goes. Mike Benton, Ever it fits you, 18 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 3: Alciniski with you, Glad you're along here for the ride 19 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 3: with us again. Catch this podcast with the extended conversations 20 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 3: on demand, by the way, via the Crack and Audio 21 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 3: network via the iHeartRadio app, available just minutes after this 22 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 3: show is officially in the books on the radio side again. 23 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 3: Sign up for free in case you have not done 24 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 3: so to get that at sports Radio kjar dot com. 25 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 3: Lot to get to from the Olympics, the men's side, 26 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 3: the women's side, the Kraken in the Olympics, where the 27 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 3: cra can go and now this break finally in the 28 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 3: rearview mirror and the March sixth trade deadline not too 29 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 3: far away. How is this shaping up in the Western Conference? 30 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 3: Where do the Craken fit as well? In this picture 31 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 3: we'll get to more of this. Plus also your mail 32 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 3: bag questions are three Stars and also so Sean Shapiro 33 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 3: of DLS Sports to be joining us here from the 34 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 3: Dallas area and the Stars right now with plenty of 35 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 3: moving parts. How does this affect the Stars lineup heading 36 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 3: into tomorrow night when the crack and are right back 37 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 3: in action against Dallas. Sean Shapiro will be joining us 38 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 3: as well. Back to back here for the Kraken coming 39 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 3: up at Dallas tomorrow five pm Pacific time face off 40 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 3: and then in Saint Louis very next night. Kraken then 41 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 3: right back home to open up the home side of 42 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 3: their next homestand again that will be coming up this 43 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 3: Saturday against the Vancouver Canucks. That's going to be certainly 44 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 3: a fun one here for the Kraken. In their first 45 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 3: home game since January twenty ninth, They'll take on the 46 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 3: Canucks once again back home here for the first time 47 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 3: out of the break this Saturday, February twenty eighth. Opening up. 48 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 3: Then after that a lengthy homestand six games in total Canucks, Hurricanes, Blues, Ottawa, 49 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 3: Nashville and the Colorado Avalanche. I want to get to 50 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 3: some opening thoughts here, and I'll let Everett now take 51 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 3: it away with theirs. And I walked away at eight 52 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:13,279 Speaker 3: thirty in the morning on Sunday, energized by the potential 53 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 3: as far as what hockey has here across the board. 54 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 3: And when Team USA won Gold Bank in nineteen eighty, 55 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 3: that was the ultimate miracle. It was a collection of 56 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 3: college kids who'd beat a superhuman Soviet team that really, 57 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 3: based on skill, would have or should have had numerous 58 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 3: players in the NHL. This gold medal felt different. It 59 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 3: was best on best. It was give me all you 60 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 3: got for sixteen minutes plus overtime, and it was the 61 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 3: fastest game that I had ever seen as far as pace. 62 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 3: Team usay again prevailing when they bent but did not break. 63 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 3: And we're further along now with the growth of hockey 64 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 3: now than say versus back in nineteen eighty. That's where 65 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 3: the imagination of hockey's place in this country. Then you 66 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 3: go to nineteen ninety six the USB, It's Canada and 67 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 3: the World Cup of Hockey. And I heard this elsewhere, 68 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 3: but you can point to the hordes of kids inspired 69 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 3: to play hockey in this country after that victory, and 70 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 3: we're right on schedule now with them making an impact 71 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 3: in the NHL, some who have already had. By the way, 72 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 3: now just imagine what the gold medals for Team Usay 73 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 3: on both the women's side and the men's side are 74 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 3: going to do. Hockey from an overall scale in this 75 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 3: region has never ever been bigger. The NHL is here, 76 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 3: the PWHL is here, Six teams WHL across the board 77 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 3: in Washington and Oregon are here. Grassroots programs at Kraken 78 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 3: Community ice Plex, and neighboring programs here from Everett down 79 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 3: to Kent are here. So I'm really excited to think 80 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 3: about in twenty years what the reports say about Washington 81 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 3: homegrown players and what they could do in men's or 82 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 3: women's hockey, to which now the NHL and PWHL get 83 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 3: put under a bigger spotlight starting now, and the Krack 84 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 3: can hold a playoff berth for now, making these last 85 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 3: twenty six games something really incredible to think about. Everett. Now, 86 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 3: what say you for your thoughts? 87 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I mean you bang on. I mean it 88 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: took the words right out of my mouth. 89 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: I thought that. 90 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 2: For obviously, team USA women and men winning the gold medal. 91 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: Is huge for this country. 92 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 2: Team USA women winning it again, team USA men winning 93 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 2: it for the first time in forty six years. 94 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: I mean, that's amazing, you know. And to the Canadians 95 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: who who love to say, well, it's good for the game, No, 96 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: it's good for the game. It is. It's great for 97 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: the game. It's great for the game. 98 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 2: It's great for my ego. It's great for the fact 99 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 2: that I am not a gracious winner. I will be 100 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: talking all types of smack to all my. 101 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 3: Aian Franks on schedule back on Sunday. 102 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, so all my Canadian friends and broadcast 103 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 2: partners will be giving a lot of smack talking from me. 104 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: But I think I'm with you, Mike. 105 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 2: The most important thing that this game did, and while 106 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 2: it was happening, I woke up late. I woke up 107 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 2: for the overtime and I actually ended up going back 108 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 2: and rewatching the game. And as I'm watching the game, 109 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 2: I just kept thinking to myself, this is our miracle, 110 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 2: this is my generation's miracle on ice. 111 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: And you know, I saw a. 112 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 2: Tweet the other morning that said, uh, for the first 113 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 2: time ever, you ate under eight. Participation in USA Hockey 114 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 2: registered programs is over one hundred thousand, Like that is 115 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 2: what's going to help drive this game. We talked so 116 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 2: much in this country about football and basketball and baseball 117 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 2: and all these other sports, and hockey is a very 118 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 2: cost prohibitive sport. 119 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: It isn't the most accessible sport. 120 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 2: For a lot of families, for a lot of people. 121 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 2: But I do think moments like this are what helped 122 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 2: grow the game. And I think of my three year 123 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: old at home and his second learn to skate class 124 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 2: coming up tonight. You know, those are the type of 125 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 2: moments that we're gonna look back on in twenty years. 126 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 2: I remember where I was when Jacki Hugh scored that goal. 127 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 2: I remember where I was when Connor Hallibut stopped Devon 128 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 2: Daves and Nathan McKinnon missed that open net and Connor 129 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: McDavid didn't do that, and Brady Kuchuck and Matthew Kachuck 130 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 2: did do that, Like you're gonna be able to remember 131 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 2: where you were. 132 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: So that is the biggest takeaway for me. 133 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 2: You know, the gold medals for both aside, this is 134 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: great for the game. You know, the women's team winning 135 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 2: I think was was equally as massive, maybe even a 136 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 2: little bit bigger than the men's team winning, simply because 137 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: as the largest growing demographic of hockey players and hockey 138 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 2: enjoyers are women and young girls. They are they are 139 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 2: the largest demographic of new hockey players, of new hockey fans. 140 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 2: So you're growing the women's game. The Seattle Torrent has 141 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 2: what five medalists on their roster. I mean that that 142 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 2: that's amazing for growing the game. So this is going 143 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 2: to ten years down the road, we're gonna be sitting here, 144 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 2: you know, having another episode of Cracking Weekly talking about 145 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: man Remember the twenty twenty six Olympics when the US 146 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 2: beat Canada, triumphantly beat Canada. 147 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 1: We're gonna be sitting back. 148 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 2: Here in ten twelve years al when the US has 149 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 2: just picked up their fifth consecutive goal. I guess their 150 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 2: third consecutive gold medal over team Canada. We're gonna be 151 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: sitting here talking about what this first one did for 152 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 2: growing hockey in the States. 153 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, congratulations, you want a gold medal at. 154 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: Three we want we want out we you won a 155 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: gold medal three hockey, You won a gold medal, and 156 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: then in twenty fourteen in Canada one they were the 157 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: four on four jet. 158 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 4: Now in nineteen eighty when you beat the Soviets, I 159 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 4: think that was five on five hockey, So I mean 160 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 4: that's that's. 161 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: In the semis too. That would be a. 162 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 4: Bit a legitimate one. That's a legitimate one. 163 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 3: But I had to play referee between you two right 164 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 3: now and splits up virtually. 165 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 4: We're gonna We're gonna give you this one because yes, 166 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 4: it is good for the game of hockey. And I 167 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 4: look forward to, just like you, looking back and seeing 168 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 4: the stats between twenty twenty six and twenty thirty and 169 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 4: beyond and how this win has affected the. 170 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: Growth of the game in the United States. 171 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 4: So that is an excellent reason for the United States 172 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 4: to win gold. 173 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: Congratulations. 174 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 4: The Canadian team did outplay you, but did not outscore you, 175 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 4: So there you go. 176 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: I am happy I am happy for it matters all 177 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 1: that matters out I don't. That's all. That's all I'm 178 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: gonna say back to you, Mikey. 179 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 2: Connor hell but that should have been a four or 180 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,599 Speaker 2: five one Canada win Like that was the last two periods. 181 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:08,719 Speaker 2: If not for Connor Hellibuck and a forty one save performance, 182 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 2: forty two save. 183 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 4: Performance and very kill five on three, the conveniences couldn't 184 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 4: get it done. 185 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: So done, lots lots of tips of. 186 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 3: That five on three. That that five on three to 187 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 3: me was the game. I went, oh boy, hold on 188 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 3: to your butts. They survived. The penalty kill was letter 189 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 3: perfect eighteen of eighteen. My goodness in baseball terms, that 190 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 3: is like no runs out of your bullpen for the 191 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 3: entire tournament. 192 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: Three won. 193 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 3: Let ever it go, let ever it go, and listen 194 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 3: to the song. Connor Hellibuck might have had I think 195 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 3: the greatest save of all time in the Olympics on 196 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 3: Devon tapes. But I here's one question I'll throw out 197 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 3: to all of you guys here, whether it's him or 198 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 3: somebody else, was Connor Hallibuck the guy who changed the 199 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 3: narrative the most about him and his game From Team 200 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 3: USA with that gold medal. 201 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say I would probably say Connor Hallibook 202 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: for a couple of reasons. Number one, the narrative around 203 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 2: him if he can't win the big one. Right, the 204 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 2: Winnipeg Jets have been consistently in the playoffs, they have 205 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 2: been consistently amongst the top three in the NHL. They're 206 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 2: always seemingly before this year anyway, they're always seemingly in 207 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 2: a President's trophy conversation and number one overall seed conversation. 208 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 2: But then they can't seem to get past that second round. 209 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 2: So I think a little bit unfairly a lot of 210 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:54,479 Speaker 2: criticism was heaped upon Connor Hallibook for all of those failures, 211 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 2: but I think now to backstop your team to the 212 00:11:58,679 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 2: gold medal again. 213 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: I mean, let's face it, that was probably one. 214 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 2: Of the best Canadian teams that has ever been put together, 215 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 2: and really both sides, if you go and look at 216 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 2: the players who were left at home, you could have 217 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 2: another pretty darn good Olympic roster for Canada and the 218 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 2: US of guys that didn't make the team. So I 219 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 2: think for for You're right, Mikey, I think Connor Hallibuck 220 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 2: really turned his narrative around a little bit. I think 221 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 2: Jack Hughes, uh, that was kind of a coming out 222 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 2: party for him, Quinn, the whole Hughes klan, Quinn and Jack, 223 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 2: we all knew what that what what they were capable 224 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 2: of doing. But now that you see it on a 225 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 2: on a global scale. 226 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 3: What about Austin Matthews also defensively Austin Matthews. 227 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: As another one. I mean, He's gonna now go back. 228 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 2: To Toronto and a lot of guys are gonna be like, 229 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 2: all right, well, maybe maybe we should maybe. 230 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: Ease up on this guy. 231 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 2: The guys that I thought maybe took a bit of 232 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 2: a hit, or the Kachucks, I mean, I wasn't too 233 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 2: impressed with their tournament. Obviously, they're still great players, and 234 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 2: I think they embody fairly or unfairly, rightly or wrongly, 235 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 2: a lot of what this American team is about. They 236 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 2: embody that spirit of America, you know, that taking no prisoners, 237 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 2: asking questions later and all that. 238 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: Like you like that that the way that they played. 239 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 2: But I was expecting a little bit more out of 240 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 2: the Kachucks in that in that tournament. But hey, for me, 241 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 2: I think it was Connor Hallibuk, But there were a 242 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 2: few other guys that I thought really did a good 243 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 2: job of of of you know, pumping their own tires 244 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 2: and turning their narratives around as well. 245 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 3: Whether you want to add on to that or not, 246 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 3: I'll add on here with this. How concerned were you 247 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 3: that Conor McDavid did not score the last two games? 248 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I'm not that concerned. I think that 249 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 4: in Edmonton there's been a lot of discussion around, you know, 250 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:05,239 Speaker 4: whether he's scoring or not scoring, but he's involved offensively 251 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 4: in many of the plays that result in goals, whether 252 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 4: that's directly assists, primary or secondary, or just the flow 253 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 4: into the offensive zone. So not scoring, I wasn't too concerned. 254 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 4: I just did my own research Google that he had 255 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 4: the most points in the tournament, so he certainly performed overall. 256 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 4: In fact, Everett, not until you get to seventh place, 257 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 4: Quinn Hughes do you see a US player with points 258 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 4: on that top seven list. 259 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: So the. 260 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 4: Goal scoring was definitely deep across the US team and 261 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 4: primarily focused on a couple of players like Honor McDavid 262 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 4: and mclin celebrate bring me one and two on the list. 263 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 2: And I also you know, going back to that stat 264 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 2: if you go down to that seventh place, that's also 265 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 2: the first player that. 266 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: You'll find have a gold medal. The rest are Silvi. 267 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: Yeah was your second place. So but no, you know 268 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: stats and the numbers. Now I will, I will say it's. 269 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 3: Gonna be a bumpy right here for this whole hour. 270 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 3: Al buckle up, you know. 271 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 2: It's it's interesting, you know, talking about Connor McDavid not 272 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 2: scoring and if you're worried, I'm not worried about McDavid 273 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 2: not scoring. But I think what I am a little 274 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 2: bit worried about is for Connor McDavid. You now have 275 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 2: lost back to back Cup finals to Matthew kud Chuck. 276 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 2: You've just lost the gold medal to Matthew ku Chuck. 277 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 2: And I'm thinking of guys like that. I'm thinking of 278 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 2: Nathan McKinnon of Devon, Taves, of Cale mccarr, Jordan before stuff. 279 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 3: He's wound up into the hands of Nathan McKinnon and 280 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 3: Cale mccarr and Connor McDavid. 281 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: But I exactly. 282 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 2: But but what I'm saying though, is like you now 283 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 2: are are thrusting these guys back into a playoff race 284 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 2: where with the exception of Colorado. Everyone on those teams 285 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 2: are either out of the playoff or barely in the playoffs. 286 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: They're fighting for a spot. 287 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 2: This is a wild swing of emotions that you're now 288 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 2: expecting Conor McDavid to put the biggest defeat probably of 289 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 2: his life behind him because hey. 290 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: We got to go to Vancouver or whatever it is. 291 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 2: Right, you've got Team USA coming off of a four 292 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 2: day bender. Which listen, guys, you want to get back 293 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 2: to your cities. What are we doing here? It's over, 294 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 2: go back play for the teams that are paying you 295 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 2: to play. 296 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: Anyway. I'm not gonna get into a. 297 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 2: Political conversation, but you one you had your apparol sprints 298 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 2: is over in Italy. 299 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: Come on back home and go back to practice. 300 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 2: But this is where I think the Kraken are gonna 301 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 2: are gonna have a lot of maybe have an advantage 302 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 2: over other teams because there aren't the wild emotional swings 303 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 2: to the Finns won Bronze Tovey and Kappo Kaka. We're back, 304 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 2: They've got their medals. It's right back to work. You now, 305 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 2: were gonna have to worry about a lot of these 306 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 2: Canadian guys and a lot of the American guys having 307 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 2: to refocus after the biggest game of their life for 308 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 2: this twenty six game, sprint to the playoffs and. 309 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 3: Guess what, the Kraken get their first whip at the 310 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 3: Dallas Stars coming up tomorrow night, which the Stars have 311 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 3: a lot and I mean a lot of moving parts 312 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 3: on that lineup. I will get to the Olympians here 313 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 3: in just a bit here for the crack inside. They 314 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 3: certainly deserve their due. Philip Grubauer already back with the 315 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 3: team before they took off, Ellie Tolben and Coppocaco just 316 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 3: rejoining the team as well in Dallas earlier today. But 317 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 3: I want to touch on a guy who wasn't there 318 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 3: for Team USA, but who knows if he could be 319 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 3: back there in four years in the Olympics, in two 320 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 3: years from now in the World Cup, that being Matty Beniers. 321 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 3: And he was gloating, and I mean gloating about the 322 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 3: Team USA win, playfully chirping his own teammates from Canada, 323 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 3: he said all across the room. But here's Matty Baneer's 324 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 3: after practice about the prospects of playing for Team USA 325 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 3: again down the road. I know your short term goals here, 326 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 3: But how do you feel about playing in this thing 327 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 3: four years down the road? 328 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's for sure the goal. You know, that's every 329 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 5: US player I'm sure wants to be in it. So 330 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 5: it's you know, it's gonna take a lot of work, 331 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 5: but yeah, that's that's the goal, is to be on 332 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 5: that team. 333 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 3: Matty Beaneer is a chorus, has one medals played in 334 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 3: the Olympics as well for Team USA. But because of 335 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 3: the dip in his game last couple of years, it's 336 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 3: understandable why he was left off the Four Nations roster 337 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 3: and then ultimately the Olympics. It was just way too 338 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 3: deep as far as other developed than Paula centers for 339 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 3: Team USA. But now we look at the big picture 340 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 3: for two years down the road for the World Cup 341 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 3: of Hockey and four years down the road for the 342 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 3: next Winter Olympics, and who knows where Matty Beaneer's this 343 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 3: game is going to be at that point, because perhaps 344 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 3: we have seen a breakthrough for his game offensively another 345 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 3: level perhaps on lock The numbers say so, the elite 346 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 3: level playmaking says so, and then there's the attention for 347 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 3: his game defensively, plus the extra gear and the extra 348 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 3: motor that we see inside of him, and they use 349 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 3: that term a lot in this business. But competitiveness, How 350 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 3: do we like the chances of Maddy Biniers in twenty 351 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,239 Speaker 3: twenty eight for Team USA in the World Cup and 352 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 3: for the Olympics for Team USA in twenty thirty? 353 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 4: I think if his game keeps mature in the way 354 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 4: it has this year, absolutely no reason why he can't 355 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 4: get there. I think that for his game to mature, Yeah, 356 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 4: a lot of it rests on his shoulders directly, But listen, 357 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 4: this is a team sport and who you're playing with matters, 358 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 4: and right now, playing with Jared mccannon and Jordan Eberley 359 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 4: has positively impacted his game in twenty twenty eight, Is 360 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 4: he still playing with those two guys? If not, who's 361 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 4: he playing with and how do they impact his game? 362 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 4: Obviously twenty thirty same question, So I think that becomes 363 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 4: a part of it as well. Who is he playing 364 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 4: with and what impact do they have on his game? 365 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 1: That's a big question marks for me. 366 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Maddie there's no there's no reason why 367 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 2: he can't minimally for the World Cup of Hockey or 368 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 2: for Nations whatever, you want to call it be there, 369 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 2: But I also think for the Olympics too. You know, 370 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 2: he's got to continue maturing his game. We've seen the 371 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 2: defensive style of his game pick up this year. I 372 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 2: want to get back to that offense, right. I want 373 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 2: to see if Matty Beanieers can be a seventy point guy. 374 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 2: Can he be a seventy point player in this league? 375 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 2: That is I think his next step, so for him 376 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 2: continuing to get better. But also one thing that I 377 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 2: found kind of interesting from both the US and Canada side, 378 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 2: Both these countries in the last two years are now 379 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 2: starting to put more importance on representing your country at 380 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 2: the World Championships some of these other events. Everyone wants 381 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 2: to play in the Olympics, everyone wants to go to 382 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 2: the World Cup of Hockey, but you're not seeing being 383 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 2: the same star power that you'd like to see in 384 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 2: May in the worlds And I think both Bill Gahren 385 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 2: and then I had for Team Canada, but both were 386 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 2: both have said like, listen, if you want to be 387 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 2: invited to these camps, if you want to be representing 388 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 2: you know at the Olympics, we're gonna need you to 389 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 2: put more of a commitment into the World Championships, to 390 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 2: playing every year, even if you don't, even if you 391 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 2: don't make the team, show up to camp volunteer be 392 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 2: That's why bo Horvat is a great example. A lot 393 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 2: of folks were like, why in the world did bo 394 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 2: Horvat make the team? Well, bo Horvat is the first 395 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 2: person raising his hand to volunteer for any of these 396 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 2: tournaments that come up internationally for Team Canada. 397 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: So I think you're gonna start seeing a lot more 398 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: of that. 399 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 2: Joey Dacord, Matty Beaneers went to the World Championships last year. 400 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 2: USA won their first World Championship gold medal in ninety years. 401 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 2: That is where I think you're gonna start seeing a 402 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 2: lot of this go where. Maybe it's not a changing 403 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 2: of the guard in terms of hockey supremacy, Team Canada 404 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 2: I think will probably still hold that title for quite 405 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 2: some time, but definitely a challenging of the guard. If 406 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: Team USA can continue to send their best willingly and 407 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 2: voluntarily to some of these tournaments like the World. 408 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 3: Championships, Copocaco, Ellie Toulvenan, Philip Greubauer, Oscar Fiscro Moleguard certainly 409 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 3: deserve their props here for the Olympics. I mean, my goodness, 410 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 3: I just can't help but think the amount of competition 411 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 3: that fiscal Moleguard faced and in his production nearly at 412 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 3: a point per game. Just how much that speaks volumes 413 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 3: to the kind of game that he's got to handle 414 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 3: the National Hockey League soon on a ninth to night basis, 415 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 3: cop Ocaco productive, Ellie Toulvenan productive, Philip Greubauer may be 416 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 3: a bit of a stumble here in the game that 417 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 3: knocked out Germany, but overall the numbers were terrific as well. 418 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 3: And I think for me Wes Stanz out for these 419 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 3: four Olympians was Polish and press. Since what stands out 420 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 3: to you the most with Coppo, Coco, Ellie tolven and 421 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 3: Philip Grubauer and Oscar Fiskar. 422 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 4: I think anytime you can win a medal at the Olympics, 423 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 4: you should give yourself a pad in the back. I 424 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 4: don't care what team you are, so I'll start with 425 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 4: Coco and Tolven and congratulations to them on on that 426 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 4: on that win. But you know, the games where I 427 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 4: did see them play, I think Coco stood out initially 428 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 4: a little bit more to me in the tournament, but 429 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 4: Ellie Tolvenan contributed where he could as well. And I 430 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 4: think that I said this going into the break, the 431 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 4: worst thing you can you can accept coming out of 432 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 4: the Olympics is injury, because it's going to happen. The 433 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 4: thing you hope for is that your players come back 434 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,239 Speaker 4: with an elevated game. I think that's the case with 435 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 4: all four of these guys. They're not coming back injured. 436 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 4: They've played at the best on best at the Olympics. 437 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 4: I expect Tolvan and Coco to come back with their 438 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 4: game elevated. Same thing with Philip Grubauer as well, and 439 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 4: when we see Chrifiskermulgard next, I would expect the same 440 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 4: from him. So all four of them had excellent tournaments. 441 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 4: In the case of two of them, they come back 442 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 4: with metal in their pockets, and I think all four 443 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 4: of them are going to have elevated games. 444 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the for me, the best tournament for 445 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 2: the four was Coppocco just based on stat line alone 446 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 2: in the role that he played for Team Finlan. But 447 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 2: all four of them, uh had phenomenal tournaments. In your 448 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 2: right now, I think everything that that you were expecting 449 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 2: as a Kraken fan, everything you wanted. 450 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: To happen happened. 451 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 2: They played at a high level, they had some success, 452 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 2: they didn't get hurt. For me, that was one, two 453 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 2: and three. They stay healthy, if I'm being selfish. But 454 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 2: but you saw, you saw that game elevate, They played 455 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 2: against some of the best. And now what's gonna really 456 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 2: I think tell the tail is going to be these 457 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 2: next two weeks, right, how do they how do they 458 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 2: deal coming back from from that? And again there there 459 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 2: there's a little bit less of that emotional high for 460 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 2: a Tovenin and a Cocko and a Grubauer because it 461 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 2: was the bronze medal game. Nothing nothing to to to 462 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 2: snuff at. They won the bronze medal, is still a 463 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 2: very big game for them. Philip Grubauer unfortunately got bounced 464 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 2: earlier in the knockout round, so there wasn't that big 465 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 2: game that he had to play, you know, for a medal. 466 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 2: But but I think that, like I said before, where 467 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,959 Speaker 2: the Kraken maybe stand to get a bit of an 468 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 2: advantage is that there wasn't this high. 469 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: This this the. 470 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 2: Taste of victory and the spoils of defeat, and now 471 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 2: have to come back four or five days later and refocus. 472 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 2: They've had some time to refocus, they're back into the 473 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 2: NHL mindset. 474 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 1: So I think that is where the taiale will be 475 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: told for me. 476 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 2: How they come back from that and they these next 477 00:25:55,840 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 2: five games going into the trade deadline, how they look. 478 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 2: Can they continue to stay healthy? You look at Dallas, 479 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 2: who the Kracking will have tomorrow. They're dealing with some 480 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 2: injuries sustained from the Olympic. 481 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: Break, So how is that going to impact them? 482 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 2: The Crackings don't have that, So if they stay healthy, 483 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 2: I think this is going to prove to be very beneficial. 484 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,360 Speaker 2: And those four guys, the three guys who were here 485 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 2: full time in the Oscar Fisker Mulgard, who I don't 486 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 2: think we've seen the last of this season, but the 487 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 2: three full time Cracking players who went, I think they're 488 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 2: going to be able to use this experience and parlay 489 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 2: that into some really good play down the road for 490 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 2: the rest of the year. 491 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 3: We'll have more Olympics talk coming up here, but before 492 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 3: we get to breaking again, Sean Shapiro waiting right around 493 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 3: the corner here with us on Cracking Weekly News going 494 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 3: down about a few hours ago the crack and agreeing 495 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 3: to terms on to your extensions with for Ben Myers 496 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 3: and Ryan Winterton, that gets them under team controlled through 497 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 3: twenty twenty seven and twenty eight each. Just a shade 498 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 3: over a million dollars, heeries, so minimal capit as far 499 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 3: as the Kraken are concerned. It may be a bit 500 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 3: peculiar here to extend players for their kind of roles 501 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 3: here mid season, but I'm curious. This is only kind 502 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 3: of the beginning of what might be falling here as 503 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 3: far as Domino's on this roster. But I mean as 504 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 3: far as their play was concerned, just from a baseline 505 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,239 Speaker 3: standpoint ever, and I mean the fourth line has a 506 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 3: growing identity and Winterton and Mayer is a big part 507 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 3: of that. Your thoughts on this, Yeah, I. 508 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: Think these are these are big moves. 509 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 2: And even though that they're not quote unquote big players, 510 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 2: you know, they're not the McCanns of the world. I 511 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 2: understand that, but the role that they play this season 512 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 2: especially is so important. 513 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: Alan. I talk a lot about Ryan Winterton and how. 514 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 2: Sometimes I don't even think he knows how fast he is, 515 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 2: and the skill set that he has that hard working mentality. 516 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 2: We've seen him on the fourth line, we've seen them 517 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 2: jump up a little bit on the second line. Is 518 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 2: he's moved up and down the roster very much like 519 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 2: Freddie Gudreau in that regard. And with Ben Myers, I mean, 520 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 2: he just works. He works and works and works. And 521 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 2: when I think of a prototypical bottom six forward role 522 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 2: player who is going to chew up some time for you, 523 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 2: he's got a bit of an offense offensive acumen to 524 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 2: his game as well. I think that these two moves 525 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 2: are great to have long term, you know, locked up 526 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 2: for a couple of more years. 527 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: And also I think those are the kind. 528 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 2: Of players when you start getting into playoff runs and 529 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 2: when you start getting into big and important games down 530 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 2: the road, those are the type of players I think 531 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 2: that ultimately can win you series. 532 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: When we go to talk about playoffs. 533 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,239 Speaker 2: Obviously you've got your mcdavids and your mckennon's and your 534 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 2: big guys, But how many times have we seen a 535 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 2: playoff series where the top two lines will cancel each 536 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 2: other out and it's those bottom six forward groups that 537 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 2: get a big goal, get a big penalty, kill'll get 538 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 2: a big defensive play, they win a big face off. 539 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 2: Those are two of the guys in Myers and Winterton 540 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 2: that I think are going to help you build and 541 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 2: grow that culture in that bottom six or four group. 542 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 2: They can play up if they need to, But those 543 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 2: are the type of guys that you need on your 544 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 2: team if you want to have success. Those are the 545 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 2: type of guys that can win you playoff series and 546 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 2: can get you far, you know, in postseason play. 547 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: So I love this deal. These deals. It's a very 548 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: minimal cap pit as well. 549 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 2: I think a million for Winterton and what one point 550 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 2: one something for Ben Myers, So pretty manageable, you know 551 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 2: the crack and still have a lot of cap space 552 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 2: to work with. 553 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: But I like these two deals a lot. 554 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 3: Ben Myers again brought on back before this last season 555 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 3: via free agency, and Ryan Winterton a big piece of 556 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 3: this year for the Kraken right from the start sence 557 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 3: he was drafted. Both again issued contract extensions kicking in 558 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 3: beginning this next season here for two years. Very quick, 559 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 3: I want to get to our poll question here at 560 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 3: x krack and audio Net. Was Sunday's gold medal game 561 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 3: at the Winter Olympics, the best men's gold medal game ever. 562 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 3: Very simple yes or no or yes except for nineteen eighty. 563 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 3: Go ahead and vote right there at Crack and Audio 564 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 3: net More talk on this in the fallout. 565 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: Four or two. Well, hold on. 566 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 2: So the nineteen eighty the gold medal game. 567 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: Was US Finland. Yep, that was a gold medal game. 568 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 3: So still a miracle team. Though still a miracle team though. 569 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: Think I think the US won that one for two. 570 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, So I mean, if we're talking gold medal 571 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 2: games like man, I mean twenty this year, you know, 572 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 2: I think that one was. 573 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was it. Twenty Something happened in twenty fourteen. 574 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: I forget what it was. 575 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, selective memory takes over. 576 00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: Feel free to vote for twenty fourteen memory. Something happened 577 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen, I forget what was. But twenty twenty six, 578 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: let me tell you. 579 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 3: What do you think? Folks? Go ahead and vote to 580 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 3: crack an Audio net Hey Shawan Shapiro joining us right 581 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 3: after this year a ninety three three k jerfim fresh 582 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 3: out of the Olympic break. What do we make out 583 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 3: of the cracking and what they're facing here with the 584 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 3: Dallas Stars team to the plenty of question marks on 585 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 3: their lineup. Mike Betting again with you here on Cracking Weekly. 586 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 3: Everett now also with me that will bring us here 587 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 3: to the Beacon Plumbing hotline and joining us. It's been 588 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 3: a while, but great to have him back now. Sean 589 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 3: Shapiro in the Dallas area. He is a part of 590 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 3: the d LLS sports landscape, joining us here on Cracking Weekly. Sean, Hi, 591 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 3: how are you? How was the break? You felt like 592 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 3: it was long enough break for you? 593 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 6: It was I don't know how well you guys adjusted 594 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 6: to it in Pacific time with with with with the 595 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 6: early games, but I, uh, I ended up loving the 596 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 6: schedule because I have I got the I got the 597 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 6: five and seven year old kids. 598 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: So we'd be. 599 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 6: Getting them up in the morning and getting up in 600 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 6: the early morning, early enough with the five year old anyway, 601 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 6: and so it was actually kind of fun for a 602 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 6: week and a half of he'd bomb into our room 603 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 6: and wake me up and want to go downstairs and 604 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 6: watch some hockey on TV. So it was actually, uh 605 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 6: so that that part was high. That's actually one of 606 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 6: my one of my favorite Olympic memories. We'll be doing 607 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 6: that with the five year old. He's and he's kind 608 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 6: of watching hockey with him early in the morning after 609 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 6: him crashing into the room, and then it was kind 610 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 6: of funny this morning before taking him to school. Sorry, 611 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 6: yesterday morning, he was actually disappointed there was no hockey 612 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 6: to watch early in the so so I will so 613 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 6: break break was good in that way, but excited to 614 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 6: obviously get back and watch some NHL games. And it's 615 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 6: it is gonna be funny though to go from the 616 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 6: intensity of in the stakes of that Sunday morning game too. 617 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 6: They all matter, but it's gonna be it's gonna it's 618 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 6: it's gonna there's gonna be six games at once Wednesday. 619 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 3: Night or what. It's going to hit us right in 620 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 3: the face here, you know, going into this, and we 621 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 3: will touch more on the stars the elements because Miko 622 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 3: ranton in is on Ir won't play tomorrow out two 623 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 3: weeks here from the Olympics, Radic foxa questionable here for Wednesday. 624 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 3: Jay Gottinger won't play with Team USA commitments. Remy Pori 625 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 3: also recalled her for the backup. So we'll get onto 626 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 3: this here in just a bit, but just beginning here 627 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 3: with general thoughts here on the Olympics, Sean, I mean 628 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 3: the women's side, My goodness, what a show. The men's side, 629 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 3: My goodness, what a show? I mean to you, I 630 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 3: asked this question elsewhere similarly here, but where do these 631 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:37,959 Speaker 3: gold medals rank for you? 632 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? 633 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 6: It's uh, for I will say, from a personal connection standpoint, 634 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 6: and uh it's yeah. I'm sorry guys to the other 635 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 6: two of you on the show. But me and ever 636 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 6: are gonna take a little bit of a Michigan metro Detroit. 637 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 3: Here, here we go, Here we go, here we go. 638 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 3: All right, I'll be right back. 639 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 6: For me, the it's it's really cool to see. For 640 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 6: for me, the gold medal winning goal for the women 641 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 6: was particularly cool to see because there's a there's the 642 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 6: Megan Kellers from Farmington Hills, Farming Hills, Michigan, which is 643 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 6: a place where I went to high school. I went 644 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 6: to I'm from Farmington Hills, Michigan as well. So to 645 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 6: see that that goal, that that that golden goal was 646 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 6: really cool for me, that that tie was there, that connection, 647 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 6: and then and then for for the men's team. As 648 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 6: someone who to kind of watch the that game, it's 649 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 6: it's kind of as I am a bit of a 650 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,359 Speaker 6: goalie nerd and someone who played the position growing up 651 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 6: and still attempts to apply their craft in beer leagues. 652 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 6: On Wednesday night, it was cool to kind of see us, 653 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 6: to see us win, And obviously it's I think we 654 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 6: can all agree that if Canada, Canada was the better 655 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 6: team for quite a bit of that game. I don't 656 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 6: think anyone can deny that. But it was kind of 657 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 6: cool to see from a from from a goal to 658 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 6: ending perspective, to see the performance from Connor Hellibuck. And 659 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 6: as someone who you guys have seen him a bunch 660 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 6: just like I have. He's a guy who he's impressively 661 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 6: boring in his game, right, Like that's the reason that 662 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 6: that's one of the reasons he has been as good 663 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 6: as he is. And it was kind of cool for 664 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 6: me to kind of see his normal game ad a 665 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 6: little bit of the highlight reel with the with the 666 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 6: obviously the famous stick save now and that was kind 667 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 6: of a cool legacy thing to watch with that So 668 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 6: for me, for obviously for the men, I mean it's 669 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 6: I don't do we get another movie now, because I 670 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 6: think every time we get to me, every time there's 671 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 6: a goal. For the men and for the women, I 672 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 6: think it was just such a cool exclamation point on 673 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 6: such a dominant tournament for them, right Like that's obviously 674 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 6: we knew it was going to be battle with Canada 675 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 6: at the end, but with how dominant that women's team 676 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 6: was throughout, that's that was a really cool exclamation point 677 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 6: at the end, especially with the goal. And for me 678 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 6: to see someone who I know is from similar area 679 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 6: to me to to score was kind of cool. 680 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 2: I think Michigan is starting to take over that state 681 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,879 Speaker 2: of hockey, Moniker from Minnesota, because how many of those 682 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 2: big goals in those big moments this year happened because 683 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 2: of Michiganders. 684 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: Because of people who are from Michigan. 685 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 2: But you know, as a as a parent yourself, you've 686 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 2: got two young kids who were trying their hand that hockey. 687 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 2: You know, what is what is this going to do 688 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 2: for the game of hockey. You're very connected, you know, 689 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 2: living in Michigan, and you know a lot of the 690 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 2: Nick Kotsonikas of the world, the big media folks. What 691 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 2: are they saying and what do you feel that this 692 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 2: is going to do for hockey on the whole in 693 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 2: terms of development, in terms of growth. I read something 694 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,320 Speaker 2: the other day that for the first time ever, you 695 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 2: ate participation in the US is over one hundred thousand. 696 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 2: First time ever we've seen one hundred thousand kids under 697 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,280 Speaker 2: eight registered in USA Hockey official programs. 698 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 1: What do you feel this is going to do for 699 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:52,280 Speaker 1: this for this next generation? 700 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 6: I a still get an I also get the opportunity 701 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 6: to look at this through the lens of I do 702 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 6: a lot of work with Elite Prospects as well. Yeah, 703 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,439 Speaker 6: and through Elite Prospects, I get to see a bunch 704 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 6: of the youth hockey kind of steps and programs through that, 705 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 6: Because there's obviously it's it's everyone thinks about Elite Prospects 706 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,839 Speaker 6: from the Draft guide and the stat database. But one 707 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 6: of the kind of hidden parts of Elite Prospects is 708 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 6: we do they do a lot company wise in the 709 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 6: youth hockey ranks and helping kind of that. So I 710 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 6: get to see it from that perspective. I get to 711 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 6: see it from a perspective of On Sunday afternoon, after 712 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,720 Speaker 6: the gold medal game, I was out on the ice 713 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 6: with my with with my sons learned to play group 714 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,800 Speaker 6: and I was running. I was drawn into running the 715 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 6: shooting drill, which is both a blessing and a curse 716 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 6: when you have kids between five and nine years old 717 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 6: just all together and they've got the and it's and 718 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 6: it's it's the one, and most of them aren't lifting 719 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 6: the puck, but it's like it's the it's the occasional 720 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 6: one where it's they've got the blue pucks, so they're 721 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 6: flying a little bit quicker. So it's the So I 722 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 6: took a couple in the shins trying to trying to 723 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 6: help out with the kids on Sunday. But I think 724 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 6: it's I think it's from from a kind of a 725 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 6: hockey's growth and perspective. For me, I think it's and 726 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,720 Speaker 6: I see this also just obviously with the Dallas ties 727 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 6: and everything. I see the Hannah Bilka who obviously I was. 728 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 3: Just gonna say Hannah Bilka also. 729 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,439 Speaker 6: Yeah, Hannahbilka and her ties through Dallas and everything like that. 730 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 6: It's I think there's such a power. And I'm sure 731 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 6: you guys have seen this in Seattle since the team 732 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 6: has been there, and it's kind of just still in 733 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 6: and there was already obviously, I know there's already it 734 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 6: was a good hockey culture to build on top of 735 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 6: before the crack and even ride, but as once you 736 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:39,439 Speaker 6: kind of have those real life examples. I think that 737 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 6: that goes a long way on just taking the sport. 738 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 6: Like I think it's the more connection points you can 739 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 6: find for a kid to say, hey, this is this 740 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 6: is something that's pretty cool, this is something I want 741 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 6: to do. Like I think my like my son, for example, 742 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 6: he's five, and he's someone who always likes skating and 743 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 6: he's always and he's been doing learn to skate, and 744 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 6: but for him, this was, as I said earlier, it 745 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 6: was really cool to wake up and watch hockey with him. 746 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 6: And then for him to it was for him to 747 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 6: he's picking which team he's picking we're watching a lot Via, 748 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 6: Like we're watching lot Via and Denmark player, whichever it is, 749 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 6: and like he's he's picking which team he likes more 750 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 6: based off the jersey color and everything like that, and 751 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 6: like that's a really those kind of things are those 752 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 6: are kind of like the base. And then I think 753 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 6: you take the gold metal part of it, and it's 754 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 6: like you see your kid, Liketh, both kids were watching 755 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 6: the both gold medal games with me and you watch 756 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 6: the men's game after and that's the one that's more 757 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 6: recent in mind, just because it came afterwards, but you 758 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 6: see them both get excited about it, and you're like, oh, 759 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,359 Speaker 6: this is something that like they're gonna, they're gonna, they're 760 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 6: gonna think about. So I think that goes a long way, 761 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 6: and I think the bigger thing it does, Everett, is 762 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 6: it probably you know this now. I think you kind 763 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 6: of get to know this now is now you have 764 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,839 Speaker 6: your own as the little guy now, right. But there's 765 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 6: there's not just convincing the kid it's cool. It's mom 766 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 6: and dad also thinking it as well. I think that's 767 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 6: the other part that also gets forgotten. It like like 768 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 6: it's there's the level of like, I mean the amount 769 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 6: of times that like I mean my kids watched Loge 770 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 6: and they were like, oh, I'm in, and I'm like, 771 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:21,279 Speaker 6: I don't think that's I don't I don't think I 772 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:22,280 Speaker 6: don't think that's happening. 773 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 1: But you don't watch your kids going eighty miles an 774 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 1: hour down and yeah. 775 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 6: I just but but I but I just but I 776 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 6: think about that from a parent perspective, where I think 777 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 6: this is those cool touch points of there was a 778 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,280 Speaker 6: there's mom or dad who watched that game, who maybe 779 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 6: mom or dad aren't really a big hockey fan, but 780 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 6: they watched that game their kid, and all of a 781 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 6: sudden it became, you know what, this is pretty cool. 782 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 6: You like this, let's try Like I think that's the 783 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,839 Speaker 6: other part of it. It's not just the kids being 784 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 6: part of it. I think it's the mom and dad. 785 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 6: It's the parents. And that's one of the things I've 786 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 6: kind of noticed from doing my work with Elite Prospects. 787 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 6: It's been kind of cool to see how one of 788 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 6: the things that we've worked at on with EP has 789 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 6: been one of the things that they always talk about 790 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 6: is like, how can you help people who are new 791 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,760 Speaker 6: to the sport, who their kids are the first generation 792 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 6: getting into it, understand how this works because it's not 793 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 6: the cleanest, simplest path compared to other sports. It's not 794 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 6: not everywhere in the country is it. Can you go 795 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 6: and like, oh, well you play this age and then 796 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,359 Speaker 6: and then then you go to your high school team 797 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 6: or whatever. It's different like all across the country. And 798 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 6: so I think that's a big touch point of kind 799 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 6: of that familiar old part of it, of families embracing 800 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 6: the sport together. It is kind of where I'll go 801 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 6: with it so well as. 802 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: The only Canadian on the call. 803 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 4: I will agree with what Fitz said, which is the 804 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,319 Speaker 4: US winning was good for the game of hockey. You 805 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 4: said it fits not me the US. What the US 806 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:48,759 Speaker 4: US US US winning is winning winning winning. We broke 807 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 4: up on three hockey. 808 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 3: I'm just making sure I have a note. I'm I'm 809 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,320 Speaker 3: marking that here for the show. Okay, we got Auski 810 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 3: here on record. Okay, good. 811 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 1: They don't ask how they ask how many rights the 812 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 1: US wanted? 813 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 4: Three on three hockey is good for the game of hockey. 814 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 4: Let me get to my question for Sean Connor Hellibuck. 815 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 4: You know we're talking about this today, which is, you know, 816 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 4: maybe the Canadians got goalied, but his play in that 817 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,360 Speaker 4: game was fantastic. And Fitz and I were talking this 818 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 4: morning that every young child wants to grow up and 819 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 4: be Connor McDavid, Nathan McKennon and Connor, Bdard, Matt and 820 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,840 Speaker 4: celebrny whatever. Do you think maybe as a goalie yourself, 821 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 4: after that win, there's some kids waking up on Monday 822 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,839 Speaker 4: morning going I want to be a goalie. I want 823 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,880 Speaker 4: to I want to be the guy that goalies the 824 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 4: other team. Do you think that specific thing is also 825 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:41,919 Speaker 4: good for the game of hockey in the US. 826 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 6: I think so, especially because and this is something that 827 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,399 Speaker 6: it's it's the goaltending position is obviously a passionate point 828 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 6: for me from a personal perspective, and has led to 829 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,360 Speaker 6: some professional thoughts on it as well. But like, I 830 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:59,879 Speaker 6: think there's a lot of I think with Connor helli 831 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 6: Buck in particular, there's a level of I don't know, 832 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,880 Speaker 6: this might have been, even though he's an NHL MVP, 833 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:10,800 Speaker 6: multiple time Vezna Trophy winner, for some kids and some 834 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 6: in the NHL is obviously so so tribal, and I 835 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 6: don't say that's a bad thing, right like, but like 836 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,319 Speaker 6: so much of the NHL is if you're a kracking fan, 837 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 6: you're probably watching most cracking games, and maybe you watch 838 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 6: the National TV game, But that's really your that's that's 839 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 6: the nature of the team. You watch as you're watching 840 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 6: your team, and you see who they play, and Connor 841 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:34,359 Speaker 6: Hellibuck playing for Winnipeg doesn't really I mean, it's he's 842 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,319 Speaker 6: obviously I don't think. I don't know how many people 843 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 6: watch people. Probably there's a lot of American kids who 844 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,320 Speaker 6: don't think of Connor Hellibuck, didn't think of Connor Hellibuck 845 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 6: as much of an American quote unquote goalie or as 846 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:47,840 Speaker 6: an example like that because he played for that, he 847 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 6: played for the Jets, played in Winnipeg. Whenever it's it's 848 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 6: the and so I think this win on the Olympic 849 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,800 Speaker 6: and then you four nations maybe had that opportunity, but 850 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,880 Speaker 6: this Olympic one, I feel it really example flies that 851 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,760 Speaker 6: where I think there's a lot of people who weren't 852 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,359 Speaker 6: Connor Hellibuck fans before simply because they're like, well, I'm 853 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:08,919 Speaker 6: a fan of my local team. But I think there's 854 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 6: a lot of American kids who will look at this 855 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 6: and be like, well, I can it's his Jim Craig moment, right, 856 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 6: Like we have the example of the putlook back up, 857 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 6: where it's like like, this is the moment that will 858 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,439 Speaker 6: really define him within American hockey, and I think that's 859 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,399 Speaker 6: just such a such a cool thing, and I hope 860 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,400 Speaker 6: from a goaltending perspective, his story is also one that 861 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 6: gets used. And you're lucky that way because it's his 862 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,759 Speaker 6: story is and it's I wrote about this the other day, 863 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 6: like I remember, so I'm four years older than than 864 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 6: Connor and we both played in this like sumert summer 865 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:48,719 Speaker 6: high school hockey, the summer high school hockey league in 866 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 6: Metro Detroit. And so it was before my it was 867 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,480 Speaker 6: before my it was after my senior year of college, 868 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 6: before I went to Bowling Green Everett, and I'm playing 869 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,720 Speaker 6: in this summer league and it's just like the summer 870 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,839 Speaker 6: kind of elite league. And he was this fourteen year 871 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 6: old who was playing in this this summer league that's 872 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 6: got a bunch of kids that are going to go 873 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,160 Speaker 6: guys are going to play to college, just kind of 874 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 6: like one of those pickup leagues. And I remember I 875 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,439 Speaker 6: played against him, and him and I have talked about 876 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:15,879 Speaker 6: talked about this about a year and a half ago 877 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,279 Speaker 6: one of the times when I saw Winnipeg after a 878 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 6: morning skate. But he played four years of high school 879 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,919 Speaker 6: hockey in Michigan, went to the North American Hockey League, 880 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 6: played for the Odessa Jackalopes, and then obviously was drafted 881 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 6: in the fifth round. And I think it's it's just 882 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 6: really fortuitous that his story worked out that way. And 883 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:38,279 Speaker 6: obviously you'd be celebrating the team USA gold medal if 884 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 6: and to the dal if if Jake Otingre had been 885 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 6: the goalie in that everyone would still be celebrating the medal. 886 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 6: But Jacre, Minnesota kid went to the NTDP at sixteen 887 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 6: years old. Every year there's only there's there's only a 888 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 6: path for two kids that three kids every year to 889 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,760 Speaker 6: do that path, right, Like, And I think the Connor 890 00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:01,400 Speaker 6: Hellibucks story, the fact that he didn't go through, he 891 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:05,280 Speaker 6: wasn't a major junior kid, that he wasn't drafted into 892 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 6: the and he wasn't even drafted into then all like 893 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,880 Speaker 6: there's a great story about how when he was added 894 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,839 Speaker 6: to the Odessa roster, they're like they had to add 895 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,799 Speaker 6: his name to the system. Like it's funny when they 896 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,239 Speaker 6: go through and they like add like they go and 897 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,400 Speaker 6: draft guys and everything like that. They went to go 898 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 6: look his name up to try to add his name 899 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:22,840 Speaker 6: to the roster and they had to create him in 900 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,320 Speaker 6: the system. And so I think the Hella Bucks story, 901 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,439 Speaker 6: it's just so fortuitous of you add that background where 902 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,719 Speaker 6: it is the legit like you can come, you don't 903 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,920 Speaker 6: have to you can play this position. You can play hockey, 904 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,520 Speaker 6: and you play gold golding specifically, and you will be 905 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 6: able to work your way up just by having success. 906 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 6: And it's not just about being you have to be 907 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 6: a seventeen year old who goes to Plymouth, Michigan to 908 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 6: get this done. And so I think that's one of 909 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,360 Speaker 6: the really cool things about the Hella Buck story, and 910 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,880 Speaker 6: I hope that kind of resonates with people, like it 911 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 6: was funny. Like I talked to I still skate with 912 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 6: a guy who his son is seven or eight years old, 913 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,400 Speaker 6: and I was talking to him on Monday, and he 914 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,319 Speaker 6: said something along the lines of like his kid has 915 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:12,000 Speaker 6: started to like his kid is plane eight U hockey 916 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,480 Speaker 6: and they're starting to like have kids tragolie and everything 917 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:15,960 Speaker 6: like that. And he was asking me about it's like 918 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,279 Speaker 6: my kid really liked it, and we were talking about him, like, yeah, 919 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 6: it's something where that's that's one real that's only one right, 920 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:25,920 Speaker 6: Like you asked for example, So I can't give, but 921 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,400 Speaker 6: I can't get I can give you one quantifiable example 922 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,840 Speaker 6: of a dad being like, oh, yeah, my son's interested 923 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 6: in this now because of what he did. 924 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,000 Speaker 3: Sean Shapiro joining us here again a part of the 925 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:40,759 Speaker 3: d l LS crew on Cracking this morning. Sean taking 926 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 3: a look at the Western Conference as we get after 927 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,560 Speaker 3: it here. Colorado is still on top, but the Minnesota 928 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,839 Speaker 3: is starting to breed down their neck a little bit. 929 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,160 Speaker 3: The Stars are one point back the crack and are 930 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,239 Speaker 3: in a playoff spot right now, and we'll kind of 931 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,759 Speaker 3: get to the whole overarching theme of what this could 932 00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 3: mean here for these next couple of months in this 933 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,719 Speaker 3: playoff race. But the Stars have got a lot of 934 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,279 Speaker 3: question marks here, especially for Tomorrow night. We talked about 935 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,240 Speaker 3: Miko Ranton, and we talked about Raddick Foxa, Jake Ottinger 936 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,839 Speaker 3: as well, but then Rope Hints is also out due 937 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 3: to illness. So a lot of moving parts here for 938 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,320 Speaker 3: Tomorrow night. So I think, really, aside from Ranton in 939 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,080 Speaker 3: which absence for the Stars right now immediately is the 940 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 3: most concerning. 941 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:26,880 Speaker 6: For me, it's because it's gonna be an interesting Dallas 942 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,880 Speaker 6: team tomorrow night with I think Hints Hints is gonna 943 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,400 Speaker 6: Hints pops off right away. He's a guy who has 944 00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 6: typically actually played really well against Seattle. The center depth 945 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,920 Speaker 6: is dinged right away. You mentioned Foxa into Hints both, 946 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:44,040 Speaker 6: and so I think that's that's what sticks out to 947 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:48,160 Speaker 6: me right away for Tomorrow night. I'm fascinated to see 948 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:49,680 Speaker 6: because the Stars still have to figure out what they're 949 00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:51,440 Speaker 6: gonna do right now because they had the. 950 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:53,239 Speaker 1: Right now. 951 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 6: They've called up Remy Pori and kind of Jake Ottinger 952 00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,719 Speaker 6: may or may not be available to back up. We're 953 00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,440 Speaker 6: not really sure what the plan is right now on that, 954 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,480 Speaker 6: but we know that Casey de Smith will start in goal. 955 00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:10,160 Speaker 6: It's I think the center depth is where Dallas gets 956 00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:14,360 Speaker 6: hurt tomorrow night. Long term, it's the I'm really interested 957 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,319 Speaker 6: to see and I was. I'm really interested to see 958 00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,359 Speaker 6: where the Stars look on the blue line coming out 959 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,360 Speaker 6: of tomorrow, out of tomorrow Night's game, because it's a 960 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,360 Speaker 6: team that you've got Thomas Harley I think found his 961 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,040 Speaker 6: game a bit for in the Olympics for Team Canada. Right, 962 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,440 Speaker 6: Thomas Harley's a guy who was not playing with the 963 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,000 Speaker 6: I don't know if it's the I don't know if 964 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 6: it's the confident. I don't know what words you want 965 00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,080 Speaker 6: to use, but Thomas Harley was this first half of 966 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,359 Speaker 6: this season. Thomas Harley was not the Thomas Harley who 967 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,319 Speaker 6: earned the spot on the Foreign Nations team last year. 968 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 6: And I think he really only made the Olympic team 969 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,719 Speaker 6: based off that four Nations reputation. And that's that's Okay, 970 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,480 Speaker 6: that's how that's how it works sometimes. But then he 971 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,360 Speaker 6: went and really found his game a bit more at 972 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,359 Speaker 6: the Olympics. So I think he comes back a little 973 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,320 Speaker 6: bit more dialed in. Hopefully he can harry from a 974 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,960 Speaker 6: Dallas perspective, can he carry that the stars Essalyndell and 975 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,000 Speaker 6: Miro Hachikin and we're just mentally taxed for twenty six 976 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,000 Speaker 6: minutes a night every night for Finland, So they're gonna 977 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,680 Speaker 6: be an interesting perspective of where that's all gonna work. 978 00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:18,320 Speaker 6: But it's it's a team that I think Dallas. For me, 979 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,520 Speaker 6: Dallas is gonna go probably need to the deadline. They're 980 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:25,160 Speaker 6: probably gonna look at forwards. The question is if you 981 00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,279 Speaker 6: take those three defensemen that I talked about, they just 982 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,080 Speaker 6: played the Olympics, and then you bring back Alan Bischell, 983 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,279 Speaker 6: who hasn't played since November and is tracking maybe to 984 00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:37,239 Speaker 6: play tomorrow night, do they have the top four that 985 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,839 Speaker 6: is enough to really continue? Do they have the top 986 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,080 Speaker 6: forty that's really enough for them to contend with You 987 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,359 Speaker 6: gotta get through that Central Division gauntlet, And I think 988 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,919 Speaker 6: like that that is my biggest watching point for Dallas. 989 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,360 Speaker 6: I know Tomorrow night is a Hodgepodge game, but everything 990 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,200 Speaker 6: for me kinds of start of how do you build 991 00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:59,239 Speaker 6: off of that? Is hardly continue to play his game? 992 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,640 Speaker 6: Do mir He's gonn Essel and Dell do they ever 993 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:06,400 Speaker 6: see any negative repercussions from playing six extra games of 994 00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,719 Speaker 6: thirty minutes a night, because that definitely cut could come 995 00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,160 Speaker 6: into play right as as we go down this stretch 996 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,480 Speaker 6: in this schedule. That that that's my big thing for 997 00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,360 Speaker 6: Dallas is the D Have you is your top D 998 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,359 Speaker 6: based internally without making the trade? Have you basically made 999 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,040 Speaker 6: your top four D better? 1000 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:22,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1001 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,600 Speaker 6: It's a great question. I don't I don't know the 1002 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,839 Speaker 6: answer for that, but I do think that if you're 1003 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:30,880 Speaker 6: Seattle and you're looking at Tomorrow night, you look at 1004 00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,200 Speaker 6: the Star's center depth without fox, without hints, and you're like, 1005 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 6: that's an area we have to go. Do you have 1006 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,279 Speaker 6: to you have to take advantage of that when you 1007 00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,000 Speaker 6: get this team at this stage. 1008 00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,400 Speaker 4: Two partner for me and I think you answered the 1009 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,960 Speaker 4: first part, So I'll start there, which is you know this, 1010 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,840 Speaker 4: this this Dallas team is definitely a playoff team to 1011 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,560 Speaker 4: be a Cup contender, to be there for late in 1012 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:58,000 Speaker 4: the season games. It sounds like you need a forward 1013 00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,400 Speaker 4: piece and correct me if I'm wrong. So that that's 1014 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,360 Speaker 4: part A. Part ME is specific to a guy like 1015 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 4: Jason Robertson obviously left off the Olympic roster. Do you 1016 00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,000 Speaker 4: think he's coming back out of the out of the 1017 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,960 Speaker 4: break playing with a bit of a chip on his shoulder? 1018 00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:14,200 Speaker 1: So that's part B. 1019 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,439 Speaker 6: Yeah, for part A, yes, I definitely think they're looking 1020 00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,920 Speaker 6: in the forward space. Obviously, the trendy conversation in Dallas 1021 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,320 Speaker 6: right now is the Blake Coleman conversation, who is a 1022 00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:30,160 Speaker 6: obviously Dallas native and Dallas native who. 1023 00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:32,000 Speaker 1: He's not. 1024 00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,399 Speaker 6: Actually it's one of those like funny if it works 1025 00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,800 Speaker 6: out this way, it will be funny. But Blake and 1026 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,680 Speaker 6: his wife came back to Dallas during the Olympic break 1027 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:41,600 Speaker 6: and the and they just had a new baby, So 1028 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,719 Speaker 6: his wife and the new baby stayed in Dallas right now. 1029 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,720 Speaker 6: So from a Blake Coleman perspective of there's a pretty 1030 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,080 Speaker 6: good Stars fan push right now to bring Blake home, 1031 00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,600 Speaker 6: as as as someone who grew up playing hockey in 1032 00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:54,320 Speaker 6: Dallas for that. 1033 00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:55,160 Speaker 1: So, but. 1034 00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:01,680 Speaker 6: Then you know the Jason Robertson thing, and it Jason 1035 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,880 Speaker 6: got left off. He basically played his way off the 1036 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,720 Speaker 6: Four Nations team last year, right like he going into 1037 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,560 Speaker 6: last season. I talked about reputation with Thomas Harley before 1038 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:17,040 Speaker 6: Jason Robertson started last season really slow. Came off playing 1039 00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:21,520 Speaker 6: through a foot injury. Whether that's an excuse or at 1040 00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,200 Speaker 6: a reasoning one way or not, you can debate one way, 1041 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,799 Speaker 6: but either way, his play and product in the ice, 1042 00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,160 Speaker 6: he shouldn't have been on the Four Nations team. I 1043 00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,560 Speaker 6: think that really doomed his chance. I think he was 1044 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,239 Speaker 6: one of those guys that had to make the Four 1045 00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,399 Speaker 6: Nations team if he was going to make the Olympic team, 1046 00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:39,800 Speaker 6: because that kind of set his reputation. And after the 1047 00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,720 Speaker 6: Four Nations he was the leading scorer above any American. 1048 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:47,680 Speaker 6: And I think there's nothing else he could have I 1049 00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:49,320 Speaker 6: don't think there's anything else he could have done to 1050 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:53,280 Speaker 6: make the team other than become Vincent Trocheck or j T. Miller, 1051 00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,520 Speaker 6: right Like, I think that's just the reality, and that's 1052 00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:56,800 Speaker 6: not what his game is. And so I think he 1053 00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:58,600 Speaker 6: was already playing with a bit of that chip and 1054 00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:02,640 Speaker 6: that proving point on his shoulder. And then I am 1055 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:08,120 Speaker 6: actually like, I think there's an incredibly compelling storyline that 1056 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:12,000 Speaker 6: this all builds into because playing with the chip on 1057 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,640 Speaker 6: his shoulder, and you look at the standings right now, 1058 00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:16,680 Speaker 6: and it feels almost locked in that we're gonna get 1059 00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:20,960 Speaker 6: a Wild Stars first round play off, right and we're 1060 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:22,759 Speaker 6: gonna get the end, which is. 1061 00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:26,360 Speaker 3: So bad because me it means someone's gonna get bouncing 1062 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,440 Speaker 3: round one and they don't deserve to get bouncing round. 1063 00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,000 Speaker 6: One exactly, exactly exactly, and it's and it's gonna, it's 1064 00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,560 Speaker 6: gonna it's gonna be a fascinating side by side storyline 1065 00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:38,160 Speaker 6: because it's gonna be Bill garon GM for Team USA, 1066 00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,520 Speaker 6: who left Jason Robertson off the team and is taking 1067 00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,160 Speaker 6: his victory lap right now with the gold medal and 1068 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,080 Speaker 6: everything like that, playing against the guy who is the 1069 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,040 Speaker 6: highest scoring American of the last year in the first round, 1070 00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,560 Speaker 6: and so, like I do, I think there's the I'm 1071 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,560 Speaker 6: interested to see how that plays out over the regular season, 1072 00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,520 Speaker 6: but I am very excited to watch the Jason Robertson 1073 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:04,000 Speaker 6: revenge storyline in the round against Minnesota, assuming assuming Colorado 1074 00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,560 Speaker 6: is a crater and somehow change that, but that I 1075 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,000 Speaker 6: definitely think there's a chip on the shoulders or that. 1076 00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:12,719 Speaker 6: And then also on top of that, Jason also has 1077 00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,160 Speaker 6: the I know, I know, we're not supposed to say 1078 00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:16,640 Speaker 6: it because we're supposed to say everythings for the love 1079 00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:18,440 Speaker 6: of the game. But Jason also has the next contract 1080 00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,920 Speaker 6: up soon. Right, there is the there is the there 1081 00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,640 Speaker 6: is the he's got the there there's there's money to 1082 00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:28,440 Speaker 6: be made, he continues to yes, So there's a lot 1083 00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,800 Speaker 6: of opportunity. There's a lot of opportunity and dollars. 1084 00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:36,759 Speaker 3: So finances are reality. Basically, that's the bottom line as 1085 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:38,960 Speaker 3: far as how professional sports works here for these days. 1086 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,399 Speaker 3: A Sean. Lastly, I mean the Western Conference, it's it's 1087 00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,440 Speaker 3: already shaping up as far as how we know it's 1088 00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,160 Speaker 3: going to shape up your Colorado and then maybe Minnesota 1089 00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,440 Speaker 3: and Dallas depending upon where they finished here. But I'm 1090 00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,640 Speaker 3: really curious as far as what's your views here of 1091 00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:56,719 Speaker 3: the Pacific Division the biggest threat right now, whether it 1092 00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:00,720 Speaker 3: might be the Kings, the Ducks, the Kraken Vague, even 1093 00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,680 Speaker 3: Edmonton have gone through some ups and downs, but they're 1094 00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:06,680 Speaker 3: in the thick of it. What stands out to you 1095 00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:07,120 Speaker 3: right now? 1096 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,279 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's I look at that, I don't 1097 00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,560 Speaker 6: know if I'm giving Vegas. I don't know if I 1098 00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,120 Speaker 6: give Vegas too much. Sometimes I think I fall into 1099 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,040 Speaker 6: the trap of giving Vegas too much respect. Sometimes I 1100 00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,399 Speaker 6: admit that because I think it's the level of they've 1101 00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,759 Speaker 6: got that cup, they've got the they have that reputation 1102 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,600 Speaker 6: of that team that like every single year at the 1103 00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,719 Speaker 6: deadline right, there's always like it happened with the Hurdle deal, 1104 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,920 Speaker 6: it happened with so many things where it's like all 1105 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:35,840 Speaker 6: of a sudden, it's like, WHOA Vegas isn't on this? 1106 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:42,000 Speaker 6: So like I think because of that, Vegas always pops 1107 00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,120 Speaker 6: when I look at that division. But I also admit 1108 00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:45,839 Speaker 6: I think I might be given a little bit too 1109 00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:47,799 Speaker 6: much respect. At the same time, where you look at 1110 00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:49,359 Speaker 6: what Vegas has done on the ice, I don't think 1111 00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,799 Speaker 6: they're that far ahead of the I don't think they're 1112 00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,200 Speaker 6: really that hard far ahead of the Pacific. Like you 1113 00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,840 Speaker 6: go look at the Ducks, I think have been a 1114 00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,680 Speaker 6: really good story. I don't think they're there. I think 1115 00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,200 Speaker 6: for me, the Ducks are that team where this is 1116 00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:06,760 Speaker 6: the year where maybe when they're a legit Pacific Division 1117 00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:08,719 Speaker 6: contender two three years from now, this is the year 1118 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,200 Speaker 6: that you circle of Hey, this is where a lot 1119 00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:14,759 Speaker 6: of those steps were made. So I it's it's an 1120 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,920 Speaker 6: interesting level of things. Because I was going into the Olympics, 1121 00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,640 Speaker 6: I was thinking, Okay, we're gonna be all gung ho 1122 00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,440 Speaker 6: about la. I was thinking that, you know what, they 1123 00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,680 Speaker 6: made the trade for Panaren, They've that's gonna come together. 1124 00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,840 Speaker 6: It's gonna be. I think it's gonna be. I think 1125 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,680 Speaker 6: there's gonna be that kind of crossover of the Copatar's 1126 00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:34,680 Speaker 6: final season, which of that team will definitely be playing 1127 00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,680 Speaker 6: for pairs well with a kind of passing of the 1128 00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:38,960 Speaker 6: torch to I know, parent's not gonna be a captain 1129 00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:40,920 Speaker 6: on that team, but like the new face of the 1130 00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,880 Speaker 6: team and everything like that. But then they lose Fiala 1131 00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,800 Speaker 6: and that's gonna be That's that's really gonna hurt, the 1132 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:51,120 Speaker 6: hurt that Kings team. So I like the thing I 1133 00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,520 Speaker 6: love about looking at the Pacific and I'm looking at 1134 00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,520 Speaker 6: the standings right now as we talk about it is 1135 00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,760 Speaker 6: like you go through and there's just gonna be a 1136 00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,800 Speaker 6: lot of exciting hockey played, right, Like, I think the 1137 00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,440 Speaker 6: even if the one that I get the team that 1138 00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:08,200 Speaker 6: I'm that I watch a ton right now just because 1139 00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,000 Speaker 6: I'm fascinated to see. I don't think they're gonna get 1140 00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,640 Speaker 6: over the line, but is san Jose is Is Macklin 1141 00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:16,640 Speaker 6: Celabrini gonna win his heart by getting San Jose over 1142 00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,080 Speaker 6: over the line into something like that? Like that to 1143 00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,880 Speaker 6: me is a huge just another another factor if this 1144 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,560 Speaker 6: where I don't think the Sharks are They're way ahead 1145 00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,320 Speaker 6: of schedule. But like that kid is, we're looking at 1146 00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:29,680 Speaker 6: what he's doing right now to drag that team forward 1147 00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:34,400 Speaker 6: is really impressive. So but I for you guys and 1148 00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,920 Speaker 6: the like, I watched that Seattle team and I think 1149 00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,720 Speaker 6: it's I'm looking forward to watching this game again tomorrow 1150 00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:43,000 Speaker 6: night obviously or recurting Tuesday tomorrow night. Of like, I 1151 00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:46,200 Speaker 6: think the Seattle team, I think there's something about that group. 1152 00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,960 Speaker 6: And remember that's and I talked when you and I 1153 00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,040 Speaker 6: had launched a couple of months back and right before 1154 00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,840 Speaker 6: we played, Like there's something about the Seattle team that 1155 00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,160 Speaker 6: I think is really there's a good group mentality about 1156 00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,200 Speaker 6: that team, right like, and I don't you guys can 1157 00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,040 Speaker 6: tell me you guys see it on a day to 1158 00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:02,840 Speaker 6: day more than I do, and everything like that. But 1159 00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:06,440 Speaker 6: with the crack and I think there's something about you 1160 00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:08,080 Speaker 6: get the feeling if it's a group that plays for 1161 00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,960 Speaker 6: each other, it's it's a feeling of I think there's 1162 00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:14,080 Speaker 6: the combination. I think a lot of teams have young 1163 00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,360 Speaker 6: players that come in and make an impact on the ice. 1164 00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:17,920 Speaker 6: But talking to some of those other young guys on 1165 00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,200 Speaker 6: that team when I have, you see how they feel 1166 00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:23,040 Speaker 6: like they're part of the group right away. Like for me, 1167 00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,440 Speaker 6: that Seattle team is gonna be. They're gonna be a 1168 00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:27,680 Speaker 6: tough out. I don't know if i'd put them like, hey, 1169 00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:29,480 Speaker 6: they can win the division or anything like that. I 1170 00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:31,440 Speaker 6: feel that's a bit of a stretch right now personally. 1171 00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,000 Speaker 6: But I do think if you're gonna say, hey, Seattle's 1172 00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:35,560 Speaker 6: gonna be your first round matchup, they're gonna be that 1173 00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:37,919 Speaker 6: two three matchup. I think they're gonna be a team 1174 00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:41,560 Speaker 6: that's gonna be They're gonna fight and tooth and nail 1175 00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:43,560 Speaker 6: and whatever terminology we want to use. That are gonna 1176 00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,720 Speaker 6: be tougher out than people realize. Just because it's not 1177 00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:50,640 Speaker 6: the and you got the Matti Viniers, I think is 1178 00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,000 Speaker 6: is gonna be a bigger name in a couple of 1179 00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,280 Speaker 6: years as people as Maddie's game starts to take another 1180 00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,760 Speaker 6: step and things like that. But just because people outside 1181 00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,080 Speaker 6: of Seattle don't see that TA on a regular basis, 1182 01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:03,840 Speaker 6: I think it's I think they're going to surprise some people. 1183 01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,760 Speaker 3: So great stuff, Great stuff, Sean. We're getting short on time. 1184 01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,320 Speaker 3: A week could go much much longer, but you better 1185 01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,760 Speaker 3: believe once the matchups again come around the corner, and 1186 01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:15,040 Speaker 3: hey maybe who knows Stanley Cup playoffs, we'll be looking 1187 01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,640 Speaker 3: forward to getting you back on soon. Sewan. Hey, thank 1188 01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:19,600 Speaker 3: you appreciate it. Buddy enjoyed the rest of the stretch 1189 01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:20,000 Speaker 3: drive here. 1190 01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:22,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks for having me guys. 1191 01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:23,320 Speaker 1: Well Falcon and is. 1192 01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:28,800 Speaker 3: Sean Shapiro again Proud bowling Green State Falcon Just like 1193 01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,880 Speaker 3: Everett Fits, you're joining us from d l LS Sports again. 1194 01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,280 Speaker 3: You can find him by the way at Twitter and 1195 01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:37,120 Speaker 3: next at Sean Shapiro also d l l S Sports 1196 01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:40,920 Speaker 3: at d l LS Underscore, Sports Mail Bank Questions, three 1197 01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,760 Speaker 3: stars all up next here on Cracking Weekly on ninety 1198 01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:48,720 Speaker 3: three three k JRFM. Big thanks again to Sean Shapiro 1199 01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:52,840 Speaker 3: for joining us of d l LS Sports. My goodness, 1200 01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:54,840 Speaker 3: we are in store for some theater here coming down 1201 01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,840 Speaker 3: the stretch Drive update here on the poll question, was 1202 01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:02,040 Speaker 3: Sunday's men's hockey old medal game at the Winter Olympics 1203 01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:06,360 Speaker 3: the best gold medal game ever? Right now? Forty three 1204 01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:10,920 Speaker 3: point three percent of you say yes, except for nineteen eighty. 1205 01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:15,440 Speaker 3: Keep in mind again nineteen eighty the miracle game was 1206 01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,280 Speaker 3: a semi final, but that was still a still a 1207 01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:21,680 Speaker 3: miracle team that finished off the job. In forty three 1208 01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,520 Speaker 3: percent of you say yes, except for nineteen eighty, that 1209 01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,080 Speaker 3: was the best gold medal game ever. Again, what's your 1210 01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:28,880 Speaker 3: vote on this? Go ahead and drop it in right 1211 01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:33,600 Speaker 3: now at Cracking Audio Net, Mike Everett now back of 1212 01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,640 Speaker 3: you here to get this thing one more final wrap up, 1213 01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:38,680 Speaker 3: And amongst the things we got to get to here, 1214 01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:42,960 Speaker 3: I think is on the Cracking side, this trade freeze 1215 01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:46,600 Speaker 3: is now lifted. The clock is now ticking on March six, 1216 01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:50,920 Speaker 3: and I think the difference of how this roster looks 1217 01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:54,439 Speaker 3: now versus saying about a month could be a little 1218 01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,840 Speaker 3: bit different, and I think for this summer perhaps a 1219 01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:01,640 Speaker 3: lot different. So what the craw can do from now 1220 01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:04,120 Speaker 3: to the trade deadline, who knows. I mean, it is 1221 01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:08,160 Speaker 3: so opaque, but I think the swing they took for 1222 01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:11,920 Speaker 3: our Timmy Panera, and according to reports told us one thing. 1223 01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,440 Speaker 3: They are serious about being a buyer, and they are 1224 01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:20,280 Speaker 3: serious about injecting some top line juice into this lineup 1225 01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:24,600 Speaker 3: which has been lacking ever since the dawn of this franchise. 1226 01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:28,400 Speaker 3: So where they go who knows? But I think two 1227 01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,960 Speaker 3: questions remain out there. Did the game change here for 1228 01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:35,080 Speaker 3: the Kracking as far as their pursuits with the reported 1229 01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:37,800 Speaker 3: attempts of our Timmy Paneren who's now onto the Kings? 1230 01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:41,960 Speaker 3: But more importantly, if you get a big lie, a 1231 01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:45,040 Speaker 3: big name top line guy in there, depending upon who's 1232 01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:48,720 Speaker 3: out there, how much does it move the needle for 1233 01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:52,640 Speaker 3: the Kraken and this roster heading into the stretch drive? 1234 01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:57,000 Speaker 3: My argument is significantly. Ever, now what about you? 1235 01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I obviously. 1236 01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:06,160 Speaker 2: From a fan perspective, if if i'd obviously I'm on 1237 01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:09,840 Speaker 2: the inside, so I can't have as many opinions as 1238 01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:15,320 Speaker 2: you two can. But from a fan perspective, watching the 1239 01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:21,200 Speaker 2: Kraken swing for our Temmy Panarian gives a lot of 1240 01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:27,240 Speaker 2: positive feeling and a lot of reassurance that says, okay, 1241 01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:29,520 Speaker 2: like this team is willing to go for it. We've 1242 01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:33,240 Speaker 2: heard time and time again, Uh, we're we're taking a 1243 01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,240 Speaker 2: big swing. We want a big we need a forward, 1244 01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:37,800 Speaker 2: need a top line score. Well, you swung for one. 1245 01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:39,880 Speaker 2: You didn't get them, but you show that you were 1246 01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,560 Speaker 2: willing to swing for him. And like we've always said, 1247 01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,560 Speaker 2: it takes two to tango, right. Who knows the other 1248 01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:48,880 Speaker 2: side of that conversation. From what it sounds like, the 1249 01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:51,760 Speaker 2: Kings were always Panarian's top choice. 1250 01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,480 Speaker 1: He always was one of the king It was one 1251 01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:54,840 Speaker 1: of one. 1252 01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:58,200 Speaker 2: So you aren't gonna win because there was only there 1253 01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:01,080 Speaker 2: was one place he wanted to go. But that says 1254 01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:03,920 Speaker 2: to me that, hey, we're willing to make that big move. 1255 01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,400 Speaker 2: You're willing to make, Mike, as you like to call it, 1256 01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:10,800 Speaker 2: that franchise altering move, you know, to shake things up. 1257 01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:15,480 Speaker 2: So going into this next five games before the before 1258 01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:16,720 Speaker 2: the deadline, I. 1259 01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:18,320 Speaker 1: Mean, it's gonna be a challenge. 1260 01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:22,760 Speaker 2: And again I'm just gonna remind people that a lot 1261 01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:27,360 Speaker 2: of this trade talk, you have to remember number one, 1262 01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:29,560 Speaker 2: what are you giving up on the back end of that? 1263 01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:33,560 Speaker 2: And number two, Yes, the Kraken may have a lot 1264 01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:38,600 Speaker 2: of enticing expiring pieces that look good to other teams, 1265 01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:43,640 Speaker 2: but remember those enticing expiring pieces helped get you here, 1266 01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:47,960 Speaker 2: They helped get you to a third place spot going 1267 01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,600 Speaker 2: into the Olympic break. They helped you get to five 1268 01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:54,400 Speaker 2: points back of first at the Olympic break. So I mean, 1269 01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:58,919 Speaker 2: you don't want to risk upsetting the potential apple cart, 1270 01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:03,280 Speaker 2: the proverbial apple card too much unless you're sure that 1271 01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:07,000 Speaker 2: you're getting back a bonafide piece that's gonna help you 1272 01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:10,160 Speaker 2: in the long run. And that also may mean letting 1273 01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,880 Speaker 2: a few of these guys walk in the summer for nothing. 1274 01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,040 Speaker 2: You know, you'd love to get something back for these guys. 1275 01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:19,800 Speaker 3: But Rental, basically you're exactly and this is not the 1276 01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:21,840 Speaker 3: only team in this situation too. 1277 01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:25,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, not the only team again, So that that is 1278 01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:28,200 Speaker 2: I think where I'm going to caution our listeners is that, yes, 1279 01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:32,080 Speaker 2: we want to make trades, get guy A, B C 1280 01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:35,000 Speaker 2: out of here and bring in guy X y Z. 1281 01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:38,840 Speaker 2: But remember guy A, B and C helped you get 1282 01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:45,160 Speaker 2: to this point. So unless you're getting a A A, 1283 01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:54,080 Speaker 2: a bonafied guaranteed replacement, or a guy that's going to 1284 01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:57,400 Speaker 2: be better, a better version of that player, just be 1285 01:05:57,640 --> 01:05:59,200 Speaker 2: be a little cautious and gonna be a little bit 1286 01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:02,960 Speaker 2: wary about out the trade requests that you're trying to make. 1287 01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:06,720 Speaker 4: You know, a pompon question I always get asked, I'm 1288 01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:09,600 Speaker 4: sure you guys do as well, is are the seattle cracking? 1289 01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:11,440 Speaker 1: Are they buyers or they sellers? And the answer is 1290 01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:12,560 Speaker 1: always yes, yep. 1291 01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:15,360 Speaker 4: Because the analogy I use is like going to a 1292 01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,640 Speaker 4: swap meet, you know, where people have things that they collect. 1293 01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:21,360 Speaker 4: I don't care if it's you know, furries or cabbage 1294 01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:24,640 Speaker 4: patch kids or Russian tee dolls or silver spoons. You're 1295 01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:27,480 Speaker 4: collecting things, and in this case, you're collecting players on 1296 01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:30,400 Speaker 4: a team. You've got your table set up, you've got 1297 01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,120 Speaker 4: your players there, but at a certain point in the day, 1298 01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:36,040 Speaker 4: you start walking around to see what other people are 1299 01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:40,320 Speaker 4: selling and you have conversations and sometimes they're willing to 1300 01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:43,720 Speaker 4: entertain it, sometimes they're not. That's basically where this team's 1301 01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:47,000 Speaker 4: at now. There's certain pieces you want to add to 1302 01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:50,280 Speaker 4: your collection, whatever that collection is. In this case, it's players, 1303 01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:54,600 Speaker 4: And I agree, I think it's a top six forward 1304 01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:55,240 Speaker 4: that you're. 1305 01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:57,080 Speaker 1: Looking to add. But what do you got to give 1306 01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:57,680 Speaker 1: up to get that? 1307 01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:01,000 Speaker 4: And I think that to your point, fits, you're always 1308 01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:04,120 Speaker 4: trying to maximize the number of people on your team. 1309 01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:08,120 Speaker 4: That over the course of their career are either still 1310 01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:12,600 Speaker 4: going up that hill on their career trajectory or they're 1311 01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:15,080 Speaker 4: near the top. If you've got to give something up, 1312 01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:17,560 Speaker 4: you want guys that have hit the top and maybe 1313 01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:20,040 Speaker 4: you're starting to flatten out or maybe even come down 1314 01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:22,120 Speaker 4: on their career. If you have to give something up, 1315 01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:24,960 Speaker 4: and there's no way to know that, there's no science 1316 01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,560 Speaker 4: behind it, but that's ideally what you're always trying to 1317 01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:30,439 Speaker 4: do is find guys that either have more in the tank, 1318 01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:32,760 Speaker 4: and I think Copocacco is a great example. Yeah, he 1319 01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:34,840 Speaker 4: had more in the tank and I think we're pulling 1320 01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:37,160 Speaker 4: that out of him, or they're at the top of 1321 01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:39,880 Speaker 4: their hill, but they're gonna plateau for a few years, 1322 01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,120 Speaker 4: and that's okay too. And if you give up somebody 1323 01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:44,600 Speaker 4: that maybe has hit that plateau and is on their 1324 01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:46,120 Speaker 4: way down, that's okay. 1325 01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:47,640 Speaker 1: And also too reckon. 1326 01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:50,440 Speaker 2: I think I would say whether the Kraken have a 1327 01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:53,680 Speaker 2: really an advantage over other teams. 1328 01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:54,480 Speaker 1: Is the cap space too. 1329 01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:57,000 Speaker 2: Seattle is one of those teams that are currently in 1330 01:07:57,080 --> 01:08:01,960 Speaker 2: a playoff spot that can afford to take on a 1331 01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:05,560 Speaker 2: heftier contract even looking toward next year, So you know, 1332 01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:06,680 Speaker 2: there's a couple of names. 1333 01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:08,720 Speaker 1: I'm not going to mention any names. One of them 1334 01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:11,439 Speaker 1: may play here in Dallas. I don't know for a fact. 1335 01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:14,240 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get into the Olympic roster. He was 1336 01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:15,560 Speaker 1: not on the Olympic roster. 1337 01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:18,519 Speaker 2: He was not and even though we won, it is 1338 01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:20,599 Speaker 2: still a point of contention for me that he should 1339 01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:20,960 Speaker 2: have been there. 1340 01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,599 Speaker 1: But whatever, not going to mention his name. But there's 1341 01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:25,360 Speaker 1: a guy, a couple of guys. 1342 01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:30,160 Speaker 2: Who potentially, you know, the Kraken could afford if that 1343 01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:32,880 Speaker 2: if financially and with assets. 1344 01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:36,559 Speaker 1: So I think they're positioned maybe better than a couple 1345 01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:37,200 Speaker 1: of other teams. 1346 01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:40,280 Speaker 3: From our mailbag segment here Brett asking, do you think 1347 01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:43,520 Speaker 3: the Kraken are going to make any aggressive roster additions 1348 01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:47,679 Speaker 3: this trade deadline cycle? Well, I think that phrase opens 1349 01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:50,840 Speaker 3: up to plenty of possibilities, Brett, And I think again, 1350 01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:53,120 Speaker 3: you have to consider and ever kind of touched on this, 1351 01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:56,000 Speaker 3: your own rentals, because there are UFAs the Kraken did 1352 01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:58,760 Speaker 3: say they want to get after with examining their fit 1353 01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,800 Speaker 3: here for the long term. Pick sure, Jayden Schwartz is 1354 01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:04,680 Speaker 3: in that boat, Jordan Neberly's in that boat, Jamie Alexiak 1355 01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:07,120 Speaker 3: is in that boat Ellie Tolnan as well, and that 1356 01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:10,040 Speaker 3: could really affect I think where things go by March 1357 01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:12,760 Speaker 3: six here in this and then you of course have 1358 01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:15,519 Speaker 3: the reporter, Shade and Wright picture, which is in this 1359 01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:18,559 Speaker 3: whole mix. But I use one example. If you can 1360 01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,599 Speaker 3: find a top line guy and a center who can 1361 01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:24,960 Speaker 3: then bump Maddy Benier's down to a two seed maybe 1362 01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:29,200 Speaker 3: even Chandler Stevenson here down to a three c that's 1363 01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:32,120 Speaker 3: a pretty solid spine that you had at his positioned 1364 01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:34,680 Speaker 3: to get into the postseason. And we'll see what happens here. 1365 01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:36,519 Speaker 3: I mean, the goal is to get into the playoffs. 1366 01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:40,880 Speaker 3: Aren't in that same contention window. I say, Dallas is Colorado, 1367 01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:45,679 Speaker 3: is Minnesota, is now Vegas, et cetera. And the one 1368 01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:47,960 Speaker 3: thing that the crack and are trying to look after 1369 01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:50,360 Speaker 3: is their own optics here because they're still trying to 1370 01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:55,800 Speaker 3: set foot more firmly in this picture, and a playoff run, 1371 01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:59,080 Speaker 3: does wonder is a big reason why we're hearing that 1372 01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:02,200 Speaker 3: they could be by here at this deadline. So who 1373 01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:05,160 Speaker 3: they get, I mean, the picture is changing every day, 1374 01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:08,040 Speaker 3: and whether it might be someone like Robert Thomas or 1375 01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:11,040 Speaker 3: Jordan kyru back on the wing. Even Stevens Damcos's name, 1376 01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:13,519 Speaker 3: I'm not sure maybe how available he is now then, 1377 01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:17,519 Speaker 3: say versus about two months ago. Those are some examples. 1378 01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:21,680 Speaker 3: Vincent Trocheck, maybe we'll see, but I think to make 1379 01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:25,280 Speaker 3: a roster tweak. I mean, even Alexi la Fernier's name 1380 01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:27,400 Speaker 3: is out there, and that could be a project type 1381 01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:30,920 Speaker 3: of thing. But I wouldn't be surprised if you're looking 1382 01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:33,160 Speaker 3: at a couple of additions here by March sixth. The 1383 01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:36,680 Speaker 3: question is where these teams shake out, and where does 1384 01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:40,479 Speaker 3: their free agency picture also shake out in this entire scope. 1385 01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:43,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, for me, I guess that a second ago. The 1386 01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:46,280 Speaker 2: move's got to make sense, right and and you know 1387 01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:48,040 Speaker 2: you're gonna say, well, no, duh. 1388 01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:49,519 Speaker 1: But it's got to be a good move. 1389 01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:53,960 Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not giving up the farm for a piece, 1390 01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:58,400 Speaker 2: right Like if I'm if I'm giving up assets, if 1391 01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:01,000 Speaker 2: I'm if I'm giving up draft capital. 1392 01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:04,519 Speaker 1: The Kracking have got four firsts in the next two drafts. 1393 01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:07,280 Speaker 2: They've got you know, everyone you know the Shane Wright's 1394 01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:10,160 Speaker 2: been the the young name that's that's been thrown around 1395 01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,120 Speaker 2: the hockey world. You know, if I'm if I'm giving 1396 01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:16,640 Speaker 2: that up. I'm getting an upgrade over that. So the 1397 01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:19,000 Speaker 2: deal's got to make sense. I think, like I said, 1398 01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:23,840 Speaker 2: the the conversation that we saw and that we heard 1399 01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:28,600 Speaker 2: about for Paneren leads me to believe that there absolutely 1400 01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:31,240 Speaker 2: will be attempts. 1401 01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:32,320 Speaker 1: To make a major move. 1402 01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:36,560 Speaker 2: But it takes two to tango right, So we won't know. 1403 01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:40,240 Speaker 2: We won't know until March seventh, March eighth, March ninth, 1404 01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:44,280 Speaker 2: how close some of these deals, potential deals were. 1405 01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:46,559 Speaker 1: But you know I I. 1406 01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:51,800 Speaker 2: This team is gonna try come hell or highwaatter to 1407 01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:55,240 Speaker 2: to move that needle as much as they can. 1408 01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:58,800 Speaker 3: From Daniel at Twitter and X was the gold medal 1409 01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:03,160 Speaker 3: game proof that hockey is nothing more than just a 1410 01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:07,839 Speaker 3: giant game of chance. How can I begin to explain 1411 01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:13,800 Speaker 3: this here? This is the beauty of hockey in the NHL, 1412 01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:19,080 Speaker 3: in the minor leagues, major junior and best on best 1413 01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:24,840 Speaker 3: international competition. The only game of chance that you're playing 1414 01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:28,840 Speaker 3: is you're telling me there's a chance by any kind 1415 01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:31,800 Speaker 3: of roster that you can put out there. And this 1416 01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:33,840 Speaker 3: is not for me. I think a chance here to 1417 01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:37,439 Speaker 3: drag analytics in this context, end of the conversation. But 1418 01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:42,559 Speaker 3: analytics is a great tool for us to explain why 1419 01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:46,200 Speaker 3: player A, player B or player C has been playing 1420 01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:49,519 Speaker 3: the way that they have been playing. But this is 1421 01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:53,960 Speaker 3: the beauty of hockey. You cannot predict it on paper 1422 01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:59,320 Speaker 3: one hundred percent accurately. You can put Maclin, Celebrini, Connor 1423 01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:04,080 Speaker 3: McDavid and Nathan McKinnon, three of the top are soon 1424 01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:07,080 Speaker 3: to be top players in the world, if not already 1425 01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:11,280 Speaker 3: on a line together. It is like the Avengers going 1426 01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:13,720 Speaker 3: out over and over and over and what did it 1427 01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:20,280 Speaker 3: get you? This year silver medal Connor Hallibuck proved that 1428 01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:24,799 Speaker 3: with goaltending anything is possible. And this is the beauty 1429 01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:27,800 Speaker 3: of it. You never know what you're going to see 1430 01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:28,680 Speaker 3: any given day. 1431 01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:32,840 Speaker 1: I'll let the silver medalist go. 1432 01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:37,479 Speaker 4: I gonna let me go second because that's where Canada 1433 01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:37,720 Speaker 4: came in. 1434 01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:41,639 Speaker 1: Listen. 1435 01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:42,400 Speaker 3: Uh. 1436 01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:44,639 Speaker 1: Luck favors of the prepared. 1437 01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:48,200 Speaker 4: And there is an element to this game that that 1438 01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:51,360 Speaker 4: is chance, that is luck, but it does favor prepare 1439 01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:52,520 Speaker 4: the persistent. 1440 01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:53,320 Speaker 1: Uh. 1441 01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:57,479 Speaker 4: And I think that it's hard to encapsulate how much 1442 01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:01,439 Speaker 4: of every game that is it's less than others, but 1443 01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:05,599 Speaker 4: whether it's you know, not seeing that there are six 1444 01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:08,479 Speaker 4: or seven players on the ice after they scored and 1445 01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:13,759 Speaker 4: not being penalized, whether it's a deflection off a stanchion, 1446 01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:15,439 Speaker 4: there're a puck that ends up in front of your net, 1447 01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:18,160 Speaker 4: there is luck now that puck never gets there if 1448 01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:20,759 Speaker 4: you don't fire it that way. So there's the skill, 1449 01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:24,160 Speaker 4: but not many players would say I intended to hit 1450 01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:26,600 Speaker 4: stansion number three because it had a chunk out of it, 1451 01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:28,240 Speaker 4: and I knew the puck was going to bounce up 1452 01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:30,080 Speaker 4: to the front of the net, et cetera, et cetera. 1453 01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:32,400 Speaker 1: So there's an element of luck to this game. 1454 01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:36,200 Speaker 4: I guess the the the difference might be is which 1455 01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:38,720 Speaker 4: team is able to capitalize on. 1456 01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:39,760 Speaker 1: That luck more. 1457 01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,800 Speaker 4: Is it purely a game of luck luck? Absolutely not, 1458 01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:46,240 Speaker 4: absolutely not. When you get the best versus best in 1459 01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:49,479 Speaker 4: the world, it's skill versus skill. But how much of 1460 01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:51,920 Speaker 4: it is luck, that's arguable. 1461 01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:57,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think it was a chess match. 1462 01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:02,280 Speaker 2: I think from a from a menageriy standpoint, because I 1463 01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:06,519 Speaker 2: obviously I felt that Robertson should have been there. 1464 01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:08,040 Speaker 1: You know, you leave a lot of guys. 1465 01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:12,280 Speaker 2: At home, but Cole Clawfield, Jason Robertson to the Americans 1466 01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:16,439 Speaker 2: that weren't there, they're probably not killing penalties and the 1467 01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:19,479 Speaker 2: crack and the crack, and the US had a near 1468 01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:21,519 Speaker 2: perfect dynamite penalty kill. 1469 01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:25,479 Speaker 1: And and I loved the quote that Mike Sullivan had 1470 01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:29,920 Speaker 1: at the end of Oh goodness, yes, he goes, there are. 1471 01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:33,639 Speaker 2: Milk drinkers, and there are whiskey drinkers, and Team USA 1472 01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:35,120 Speaker 2: we had a lot. 1473 01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:38,720 Speaker 1: Of whiskey drinkers on this roster, so which I loved. 1474 01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:41,320 Speaker 1: As a whiskey drinker myself, I love it. But I 1475 01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:43,200 Speaker 1: also I also think. 1476 01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:46,160 Speaker 2: Though there there is a lot of chance in this game, 1477 01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:49,640 Speaker 2: but al you're banging on luck favors. There prepared, the 1478 01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:54,439 Speaker 2: US was prepared. Okay, Yeah, did did Team Canada get goldied? 1479 01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:56,960 Speaker 1: Fine? All right? In the last forty. 1480 01:15:56,720 --> 01:16:00,439 Speaker 2: Minutes of that game, Team Canada should have won five 1481 01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:03,360 Speaker 2: to one, right, But I'm gonna I'm gonna repeat a 1482 01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:06,320 Speaker 2: comment that one of my really good friends in this business, JT. Brown, 1483 01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:08,479 Speaker 2: told me one time, if you have a five on 1484 01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:10,679 Speaker 2: three and you don't score on that, you don't deserve 1485 01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:12,639 Speaker 2: to win that game. You got a five on three 1486 01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:15,559 Speaker 2: power play, Team Canada didn't score on that. Nathan McKennon 1487 01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:19,599 Speaker 2: for a minute, for ninety seconds of five on three 1488 01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:24,320 Speaker 2: with the like the literal Avengers power play, and you 1489 01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:25,360 Speaker 2: couldn't score on it. 1490 01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:28,439 Speaker 1: Against the Avengers, penally kill against the event. But still 1491 01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:29,920 Speaker 1: you're you're two down right. 1492 01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:34,000 Speaker 2: You know, Nathan McKinnon, he'll get one hundred tries, one 1493 01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:38,920 Speaker 2: hundred backdoor tap ins, He's gonna make ninety eight of them. 1494 01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:40,000 Speaker 1: Right like. 1495 01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:42,880 Speaker 2: But but those are the things, right, So yeah, there 1496 01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:45,320 Speaker 2: is some chance, Yeah there is some luck. But listen, 1497 01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:49,760 Speaker 2: the US this is the best I think this is 1498 01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:52,960 Speaker 2: the best time for USA hockey, at least in my lifetime, 1499 01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:56,880 Speaker 2: that we've seen. This is the best talent pool that 1500 01:16:57,040 --> 01:17:00,320 Speaker 2: we've had to pick from. I've said this stat multiple times. 1501 01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:02,000 Speaker 2: I'm going to say it here again. I just read 1502 01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:06,200 Speaker 2: something the other day that said, you eight under eight. 1503 01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:10,200 Speaker 2: Participation in America right now, for the first time, has 1504 01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:14,559 Speaker 2: crossed one hundred thousand, right, You've got so no longer 1505 01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:18,280 Speaker 2: are the best players guaranteed to come from Canada. 1506 01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:19,240 Speaker 1: You now are. 1507 01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:21,120 Speaker 2: Like I said, it might not be a changing of 1508 01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:24,120 Speaker 2: the guard, it's a challenging of the guard. Where the 1509 01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:27,040 Speaker 2: US is right now in terms of this sport growing, 1510 01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:29,479 Speaker 2: this sport getting to where it's going to be. It'll 1511 01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:33,719 Speaker 2: never be football, I understand that it'll never be basketball, hockey, 1512 01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:36,719 Speaker 2: will never be hockey in America, will never be hockey 1513 01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:37,280 Speaker 2: in Canada. 1514 01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:37,840 Speaker 1: I get it. 1515 01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:42,920 Speaker 2: But where we as a nation are going with development, 1516 01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:47,120 Speaker 2: with our resources for both the men's and the women's team, 1517 01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:51,519 Speaker 2: the women's programs Historically in America, women's sports programs are 1518 01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:58,360 Speaker 2: unfairly underfunded, unfairly underrepresented. But the number one, the fastest 1519 01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:03,439 Speaker 2: growing demographic in hockey are young women and girls playing 1520 01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:07,120 Speaker 2: and watching the sport. So you know what that it 1521 01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:09,880 Speaker 2: is chance, But it's also a lot of really damn 1522 01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:13,880 Speaker 2: good players who were watching that twenty fourteen Olympics, who 1523 01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:17,680 Speaker 2: were watching that golden goal in twenty ten up in Vancouver, 1524 01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:20,519 Speaker 2: and they were saying to themselves at ten years old, 1525 01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:24,040 Speaker 2: not on my watch, and look what happened here in 1526 01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:28,040 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, not on our watch as team USA. 1527 01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:31,560 Speaker 2: And now we have just began a run of you know, 1528 01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:35,080 Speaker 2: five ten consecutive gold medals and I'm looking forward to that. 1529 01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:38,240 Speaker 3: Let's get to our three stars here, as we're running 1530 01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:41,160 Speaker 3: out of time here for this one right now. Well, 1531 01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:44,280 Speaker 3: I'll give you the floor here for your final comments. 1532 01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:46,400 Speaker 3: Oh god, I'll give your floor here for the final 1533 01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:48,240 Speaker 3: comments and this is where you can drop the hammer, 1534 01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:50,600 Speaker 3: drop the mic, and walk off stage if you need to. 1535 01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:53,599 Speaker 3: Here because the crack and haven't played since the fourth 1536 01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:55,960 Speaker 3: of February, We're gonna kind of open this year to 1537 01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:59,439 Speaker 3: a more subjective look, and I'll go to Maddi been. 1538 01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:02,360 Speaker 3: Here's here from my third star, and I'm gonna not 1539 01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:05,479 Speaker 3: just point to just the simple fact that he said 1540 01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:08,600 Speaker 3: he wants to play for Team USA at the Olympics 1541 01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:11,800 Speaker 3: four years from now, but I think you're getting the 1542 01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:14,160 Speaker 3: sense of pride that he takes in his game, the 1543 01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:17,000 Speaker 3: sense of pride in his ambitions and his goals, and 1544 01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:21,639 Speaker 3: understand just how much this whole week meant to him, 1545 01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:25,679 Speaker 3: because of course there is a sense of USA pride, 1546 01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:28,200 Speaker 3: but Beniers has had a taste of this before. I 1547 01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:30,439 Speaker 3: think it's gonna one, I think fuel his game for 1548 01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:34,160 Speaker 3: the short term and to fuel his game here for 1549 01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:36,320 Speaker 3: the long term. And this is the advantage of what 1550 01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:39,080 Speaker 3: you have and a guy like Baniers who is now 1551 01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:41,680 Speaker 3: beginning to blossom with his game. But we're getting a 1552 01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:45,160 Speaker 3: greater taste and a sense of depth to his natural 1553 01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:49,160 Speaker 3: competitive nature. He's my third star. My secretary is Philip Grubauer, 1554 01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:52,400 Speaker 3: who in this tournament for the Olympics, didn't have the 1555 01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:56,000 Speaker 3: greatest ending knocked out of Chorus in the knockout rounds here, 1556 01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:59,080 Speaker 3: but all in all, you put together the numbers that 1557 01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:02,040 Speaker 3: he had nine to one to two, say percentage, that's 1558 01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:04,160 Speaker 3: pretty solid here for a team that didn't have as 1559 01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:07,320 Speaker 3: much talent as compared to say, what Canada had, what 1560 01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:12,080 Speaker 3: the US had, Sweden, Finland, et cetera. Philip Grewbauer looked 1561 01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:14,360 Speaker 3: great and to have health on his side coming out 1562 01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:16,800 Speaker 3: of this tournament and back now for the Kraken and 1563 01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:20,400 Speaker 3: their mix of goaltending, that's a big plus. Philip Greenbauer 1564 01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:23,799 Speaker 3: is my second star and then my first star all together, 1565 01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:28,479 Speaker 3: all crack and Olympians here for this Grubauer and what 1566 01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:32,519 Speaker 3: he did Coppocaco, Ellie Tolbin and capturing the bronze medal, 1567 01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:35,479 Speaker 3: and then Oscar Fisker Mulgard as well nearly point per 1568 01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:37,640 Speaker 3: game totals with team Denmark to show the kind of 1569 01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:41,120 Speaker 3: promise that he has for those on the ice, all 1570 01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:43,880 Speaker 3: cracking Olympians here, those are my first stars here for 1571 01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:44,599 Speaker 3: this entire week. 1572 01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:47,840 Speaker 2: I'll go I'll go second. I'll let al get the 1573 01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:50,080 Speaker 2: last word because he's earned it. He's been a good 1574 01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:51,080 Speaker 2: sport today, so he can add. 1575 01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:51,519 Speaker 1: Last word. 1576 01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:58,000 Speaker 2: My third star is going to be hockey as a whole, 1577 01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:02,280 Speaker 2: just the sport of hockey. The Olympics were fantastic. You 1578 01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:06,200 Speaker 2: showed best on best for the first time in what 1579 01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:09,160 Speaker 2: twelve years. This is what we've been clamoring for. And 1580 01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:11,800 Speaker 2: I think the tournament did not disappoint. So I just 1581 01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:15,720 Speaker 2: think the sport, the growth of the game that is 1582 01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:17,639 Speaker 2: that is my my third star. 1583 01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:22,120 Speaker 1: My second star are gonna be USA women USA men. 1584 01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:25,840 Speaker 1: The gold medals. I mean, listen, we swept them. 1585 01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:32,479 Speaker 2: We swept Canada in both games, dominating performances on both sides. 1586 01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:36,679 Speaker 1: You know again going back to go in the game. 1587 01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:39,960 Speaker 2: I think that was huge and to quote our captain 1588 01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:41,479 Speaker 2: Jordan every it's good for the game. 1589 01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:43,360 Speaker 1: Had to let them head to let us hold one 1590 01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:47,280 Speaker 1: this time. So that yeah, something like that, right. So 1591 01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:52,679 Speaker 1: I think the golds for for US women and US 1592 01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:54,400 Speaker 1: men that's my second star. 1593 01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:58,839 Speaker 2: And then my my first star are the Kraken bronze 1594 01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:01,679 Speaker 2: medalists Toovin and In Coppocaco, And they're my first star 1595 01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:04,920 Speaker 2: because they played for the Kraken. We are we we 1596 01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:08,559 Speaker 2: I have a loyalty and allegiance to them, but also 1597 01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:12,120 Speaker 2: knowing what it meant to be over there for them. 1598 01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:14,439 Speaker 2: I had the privilege of going to Ellie Tolvenan's home 1599 01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:17,160 Speaker 2: a couple of years ago in Finland, and he talked 1600 01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:21,000 Speaker 2: about his first Olympic experience and he talked about playing 1601 01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:25,479 Speaker 2: international hockey growing up. That's every kid's dream in Finland 1602 01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:28,760 Speaker 2: is to win a gold medal. I think over here 1603 01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:33,120 Speaker 2: in North America, unless it's USA Canada, I don't think 1604 01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:37,120 Speaker 2: we have that same We don't put the same importance 1605 01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:38,439 Speaker 2: on international hockey. 1606 01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:40,600 Speaker 1: It's the Stanley Cup. For us, it's the Cup. We 1607 01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:41,840 Speaker 1: want to win the Stanley Cup. 1608 01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:46,360 Speaker 2: But over there in Europe Olympics, World Championships, I mean 1609 01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:49,800 Speaker 2: they shut Latvia down for a week when Latvia won 1610 01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:51,320 Speaker 2: bronze at the World. 1611 01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:54,280 Speaker 1: A couple of years ago. So this matters to Finland. 1612 01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:57,559 Speaker 2: So for Copocco, Ellie tolven in the performances that they 1613 01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:00,599 Speaker 2: had to come home with bronze there my first star. 1614 01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:02,200 Speaker 1: Then my honorable mention of the other. 1615 01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:05,400 Speaker 2: Two Grubauer and Fisker Mulgard to represent their countries in 1616 01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:08,479 Speaker 2: the way that they did phenomenal tournament all around team 1617 01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:12,400 Speaker 2: USA Women's one team USA men won rightfully. 1618 01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:14,840 Speaker 1: So and al Kaniski over to you for the final word. 1619 01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:18,160 Speaker 4: Well, absolutely well, when the Krack and face off against Dallas, 1620 01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:20,400 Speaker 4: it'll have been three weeks since this team was on 1621 01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:23,439 Speaker 4: the ice, at least the team as a whole, and 1622 01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:26,240 Speaker 4: so my three stars are a mix between the Olympics 1623 01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:28,920 Speaker 4: and what happened in the games leading up to the 1624 01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:32,880 Speaker 4: Olympic break. So third stars for me are the duo 1625 01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:36,280 Speaker 4: for the krackt in Nett, Philip Griubauer and Joey Decord. 1626 01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:41,360 Speaker 4: Philip Grubauer obviously playing with Germany over there in Milatto, Italy, 1627 01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:44,000 Speaker 4: but he was one and two in his last three 1628 01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:46,880 Speaker 4: games here with the Kraken as well. Joey Decord he's 1629 01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:49,640 Speaker 4: four and oero in his last four. So collectively the 1630 01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:51,240 Speaker 4: Krack and goaltending duo. 1631 01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:52,599 Speaker 1: Is my three stars. 1632 01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:56,200 Speaker 4: You need goaltending to win, just like the US needed 1633 01:23:56,240 --> 01:24:01,880 Speaker 4: Connor Hellibuck to win. Second star goes to Kapok again, 1634 01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:04,880 Speaker 4: not only for his performance in the Olympics, but leading 1635 01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:07,600 Speaker 4: up to him leaving for the Olympics, he had a 1636 01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:10,680 Speaker 4: goal to assist in his last three You know, I 1637 01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:14,360 Speaker 4: talked about players in their careers cresting. I think that 1638 01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:18,680 Speaker 4: Coppocaco's season right now is still going up, and it 1639 01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:22,040 Speaker 4: may cress in the playoffs as well. So I'm excited 1640 01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:24,000 Speaker 4: to see what his game looks like coming out of 1641 01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:27,559 Speaker 4: the Olympics, coming back with the bronze medal in its pocket, 1642 01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:31,479 Speaker 4: to see how that affects the remaining twenty six games 1643 01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:32,080 Speaker 4: for the Cracking. 1644 01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:35,479 Speaker 1: And then my first star, I'm going to go in 1645 01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:37,320 Speaker 1: a different direction, Shane Wright. 1646 01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:40,920 Speaker 4: Four goals in his last four games, plus five in 1647 01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:44,719 Speaker 4: his last four, just like with Coppocaco, a guy whose 1648 01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:47,840 Speaker 4: game may be exploding a little bit right now, and 1649 01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:51,120 Speaker 4: there's lots of trade rumors. Put that noise away. Just 1650 01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:55,920 Speaker 4: go out and score. Whatever happens, happens happens. And I 1651 01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:58,240 Speaker 4: think that if he can continue to play this way, 1652 01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:00,920 Speaker 4: it's going to feed right into what this team can 1653 01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:02,519 Speaker 4: do late in April. 1654 01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:05,000 Speaker 3: All right, we're back. We're out of time here again 1655 01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:08,920 Speaker 3: tomorrow on air four thirty, Cracking at Dallas. Big thank 1656 01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:11,720 Speaker 3: you again to Sean Shapiro, Foreverett, and now I might 1657 01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:12,160 Speaker 3: see you