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Speaker 2: Brought you by Caliante Pizza in Draft House, the Pizza

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Speaker 2: of champions. Lady and gentlemen from the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 1: Hey, where what's going on?

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Speaker 3: Buddy? How are you up? Guys? I'm good. Sorry, I'm

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Speaker 3: a little late. I was. I was Bible study and

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Speaker 3: I totally forgot.

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Speaker 1: Oh wait a minute.

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Speaker 2: You can't say you were doing Bible study and then

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Speaker 2: expect us to be mad at you. I mean, of

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Speaker 2: course Bible study is going to take no wait, King

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Speaker 2: James version.

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Speaker 3: Well it's King James version, but we uh, we go

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Speaker 3: through Lebron.

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Speaker 2: James, not n Not that I apologizing, Cam. Here's my

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Speaker 2: question for you. What is the ideal time to eat

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Speaker 2: Thanksgiving dinner?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Thank you? I think around like three in your window.

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Speaker 2: One thirty to three is what I think is like

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Speaker 2: the ideal time. Anytime after that you're really getting into

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Speaker 2: the indigestion all night zone.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and you're gonna get the meats and then

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Speaker 3: you're not gonna be able to have a second portion.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I do not think it should be after the

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Speaker 1: Lions game.

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Speaker 2: That's like seven o'clock the game, Okay, it.

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Speaker 4: Bleeds into the second game a little bit if you

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Speaker 4: got to do a little bit earlier, you know.

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Speaker 1: Who, nobody needs to see the end of the Lions game.

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Speaker 1: Cam is not for here for you guys to argue

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Speaker 1: about Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: Well, actually, Cam is is as good of a person

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Speaker 2: as anybody to weigh in on stuff like this, because.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I kind of feel like you could.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to get like fast forward too much,

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Speaker 2: but you could take a Michael Strahan path in your

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Speaker 2: post playing career, which I hope is not for a

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Speaker 3: Okay, well I agree with that part. I do agree

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Speaker 3: with that part, Michael Strahan part. I still got to

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Speaker 3: work on it, all right.

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Speaker 2: So we had keyesel on the other day. We were

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Speaker 2: talking about your longevity in your fifteenth year, and I

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Speaker 2: am just amazed at the production that you are still

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Speaker 2: exhibiting on a weekly basis.

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Speaker 1: It is remarkable to me.

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Speaker 2: And I gotta ask you, how do you feel right

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Speaker 2: now in week twelve, in the fifteenth year of your career?

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Speaker 1: How are you feeling feel good?

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm kind of more pissed at by play.

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Speaker 3: I feel like I can play a lot better, so

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Speaker 3: you know, I'm I know everybody's like, oh, yeah, he's

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Speaker 3: doing at the team, but like you know, I feel

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Speaker 3: like I can still take it up another notch. And

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Speaker 3: the way I look at it is we got seven

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Speaker 3: weeks to you know, prove it we belong and prove

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Speaker 3: that I can play a lot better.

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Speaker 4: Cam is the hardest challenge for this coming game in

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Speaker 4: Chicago keeping Caleb Williams in the pocket And is that

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Speaker 4: the toughest thing for a pass rusher knowing you want

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Speaker 4: to get sacks and you're judged by sacks, but that

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Speaker 3: Well. I think the hardest challenge first of all is

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Speaker 3: A lot of those those plays he converts, it's extended. Uh,

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Speaker 3: He's gonna wear a defense out and then just make

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Speaker 2: Defense came up huge against Flack on the Bengals last week.

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Speaker 2: Second time you face him this year, but a much

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Speaker 2: different result, and particularly the defensive line seems to have

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Speaker 2: gotten things straightened out considerably. Kenu Benton been a big

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Speaker 3: I think it's one knowing our mistakes and growing from

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Speaker 3: our mistakes. You know, we have all the talent in

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Speaker 3: you know, it's about being consistent, playing and play out

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Speaker 3: and you saw earlier in this season where we had

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Speaker 3: about what we expect in our room. Whether it's stopping

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Speaker 3: it's understanding that you're not going to get home for

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Speaker 3: a sec but you gotta get your hands up to

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Speaker 3: These are all things we talk about a weekend and

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Speaker 3: week out well, and it's a challenge, but you know,

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Speaker 4: To those cam When you guys were growing up, did

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Speaker 4: Connor play with you and your older friends, and did

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Speaker 4: you guys beat the snot out of him? And did

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Speaker 4: that perfectly prepare him to be the brotherly shove guy

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Speaker 4: where he just dives into the line and everybody jumps

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Speaker 3: Growing up, I would never let him play with my

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Speaker 3: But when I would play with him and his friends,

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Speaker 3: I beat him all up and prepared him the right way.

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Speaker 2: Well, did you ever do that thing when you were

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Speaker 2: a kid, when you're beating up your brother where you

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Speaker 2: like hover over him with the spit and then like

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Speaker 2: suck it back up before it like like falls.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, that's nasty. We don't play around

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Speaker 3: with spite in our house. That's just wild. Probably not

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that you had a real big issue

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Speaker 1: You know, hard to fault him for what he did there.

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Speaker 3: Cam, Yeah, you know. You know when he told me that,

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Speaker 3: at first, I was like, Jaileen, just got to calm down.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I was trying to explain to the

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Speaker 3: But it's it's rightful, rightfully, so you just don't do

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Speaker 3: that in our game. I don't care what is said.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's all about being competitive, but to take

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Speaker 1: Cam Hayward Pittsburgh Steelers with us right now.

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Speaker 4: Cam, I don't think anybody, uh well not very many

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Speaker 4: people at least tell that against Ramsey, everybody gets what

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Speaker 4: happened and how he reacted. But what if it happens

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Speaker 4: in the AFC championship game.

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Speaker 3: I would like to think that bidding doesn't have any

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Speaker 3: AFC Championship game, But if it ends up happening, it happens.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully cooler heads prevailed, but you got to do what's

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Speaker 3: player for you know, being disrespected, but we're gonna have

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Speaker 3: to hold down the foid if it gets to that point.

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Speaker 1: What are your feelings on the toush push.

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Speaker 2: By the way, there's a lot of people who don't

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Speaker 2: don't love that that is still a legal play in

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Speaker 3: I don't love, uh the false dart nature of it.

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Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, there's queer examples where guys

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Speaker 3: You know. I also think it's very hard where we've

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Speaker 3: gotten to a point where it's not the player pushing forward,

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Speaker 3: it's no longer uh players player, it's player versus three

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's mine, you know, mind blowing. I look

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Speaker 3: we're calling that as soon as he does. Yeah, But

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Speaker 3: then the letter of the lass says we're supposed to

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Speaker 2: Did you see that clip of Chase Brown talking about

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Speaker 3: Yeah. My my older brother sent it to me yesterday

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Speaker 3: and I didn't get a chance to look at it

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Speaker 3: So this is this is my first time really looking

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Speaker 2: Wait, so you you have a timer on how much

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Speaker 2: you allow yourself to look at social media every day?

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Speaker 3: Yes, brilliantly.

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Speaker 1: Oh I love that.

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Speaker 3: Teach me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how many minutes do you allow yourself per day?

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Speaker 3: I get thirty minutes between Twitter and Instagram, so, oh

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Speaker 3: my goodness, it goes pretty quick.

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Speaker 1: Man, that's got it.

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Speaker 2: What do you feel like like withdrawal when when when

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Speaker 3: Well, it's bad because sometimes I'm just reposting stuff for

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Speaker 3: most out of these three minutes. And then I'll get clips.

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Speaker 3: I'll get clips from like my family, and I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I can't really look at that right now.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, he said, you hit him so hard that

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Speaker 2: his necklace was stuck in his neck and he had

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Speaker 2: to like have it yanked out of his skin because

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Speaker 3: I like to say I would apologize, but I'm not

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Speaker 3: really gonna apologize for that. I can't.

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Speaker 2: I can't even imagine wearing like a necklace like that

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Speaker 2: Durning game.

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Speaker 1: If you're a guy who's gonna take that shit. Do

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Speaker 1: you don't wear any jewelry? Do you?

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Speaker 3: No, I'm afraid I'm gonna get tied up where you

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Speaker 3: know it's all doesn't get twisted. I'm gonna be choking.

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Speaker 3: But no, I don't play those games.

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Speaker 2: Cam Hayward this Sunday, going to Chicago to face the Bears.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. Has he vocalized anything in the locker room

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Speaker 2: about him being the Bear's daddy and how much he

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Speaker 2: wants to play this game as a result of that.

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Speaker 3: Uh he he's been kind of quiet about it, you know.

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Speaker 3: I know he loves to talk like he's the patriarch

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Speaker 3: of the Bears organization, but uh no, he's just been

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Speaker 3: lucked in trying to get right.

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Speaker 2: I know you were giving him his flowers this week.

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Speaker 2: What has your experience with Aaron Rodgers at quarterback Ben

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Speaker 2: relative to what your expectations were going into the year.

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Speaker 3: Well, when you find out your quarterback's a big nickelbacks,

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Speaker 3: then there's a lot to speak about. Yes, he hates it,

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Speaker 3: and I poke fun and try to get under the skin,

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Speaker 3: but no, it's it's it's been really fun to leave

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Speaker 3: with him, he challenged me. You know, we up day

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Speaker 3: in and day out, but it's a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: Cam.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for your time this morning, man, We appreciate it

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Speaker 2: very much. Go get him on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Ye're sir, I appreciate you guys.

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Speaker 1: All right, buddy, take care