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Speaker 1: Joining me now from the post because that's always a

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Speaker 1: pleasure to talk to columnist Paul Zeiss. Paul, let's stick

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Speaker 1: with the basics. Who would you pick right now to

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Speaker 1: be the new Steeler coach and why would you pick him?

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you I don't know enough about these guys

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Speaker 2: the past game coordinator, you know, it seems like you

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Speaker 2: gets the best of both worlds. Sean McVeigh obviously is

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Speaker 2: a really brilliant coach. I think, you know, the way

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Speaker 2: he runs his team and the way that he runs

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Speaker 2: his offenses, it's exactly what the Steelers need. It seems

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Speaker 2: like Chris shul is a really good young defensive mind.

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Speaker 3: So that combination is.

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Speaker 2: Something that I really probably am most interesting because I

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Speaker 2: think I think they would, you know, bring and cover

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Speaker 2: all of the bases that need to be covered, you know,

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Speaker 2: I know they interviewed Mike McCarthy today. I mean, you

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Speaker 2: might as well stay with Mike Tomlin if you're gonna

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure really, you know, if that makes a

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Speaker 3: ton of sense, you know, but well, yeah.

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Speaker 1: If you have McCarthy, you're just gonna run it back.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna try to win right this second, gonna recycle

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Speaker 4: I mean, who knows.

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Speaker 1: They might make Shuwa or whoever do that anyway, But

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Speaker 1: with McCarthy, I would say the intense obvious, wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: You, Yeah, I mean, and it seems it would seem

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Speaker 2: would seem like you're trying to, you know, do another

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Speaker 3: Nine or ten wins and.

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Speaker 2: Hope that, you know, you get to the playoffs and

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Speaker 2: all that stuff. But to me, it feels like the

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Speaker 2: steerers generally, when they want to go in a different directions,

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Speaker 2: hire young that to hire up and comers. So to me,

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Speaker 2: McCarthy just doesn't make sense. And I always say this,

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Speaker 2: and I used to say this, you know when Pitt

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Speaker 2: used to go through coaches every other year and everyone

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Speaker 2: screamed and yelled that they need a pit guy. You know,

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Speaker 2: if you took the fact that Mike McCarthy is from Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: Out of the equation, would he even be on the list,

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Speaker 2: would even be somebody you would interview, would even be

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Speaker 2: somebody who would bring in and talk to. No, No,

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Speaker 2: he's nothing against damn, but he doesn't fit the profile

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Speaker 4: Well, let me tell you what I think.

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Speaker 1: For sure, everything you said is right, but let me

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Speaker 1: go one notch further. If he wasn't from Pittsburgh, the

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Speaker 1: talk show callers and the talk show host would be

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Speaker 1: saying what a terrible idea it is. For the reasons

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Speaker 2: Right, I mean, it doesn't fit the profile of what

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Speaker 2: they're looking for, It doesn't fit the profile of what

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Speaker 2: they generally do when they hire people, and it doesn't

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Speaker 2: really move the franchise in a different directions.

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Speaker 3: It's more of the same basically.

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Speaker 2: You know, this guy has a formula where he can,

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Speaker 2: lightning in a bottle with Aaron Rodgers. Well, what we

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Speaker 3: Lightning in that bottle.

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Speaker 2: So move forward, you know, and I've heard people say, well,

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Speaker 4: There's nobody to whisper to.

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Speaker 1: And I keep getting pissed, Well not really because honestly, Paul,

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Speaker 1: think about now. It's always about now. And look at

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Speaker 1: six years after Brady left here in the AFC Championship

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Speaker 1: game because they reap the value of going four and thirteen.

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Speaker 4: At some point you got to do that.

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Speaker 1: And I know there's a lot of examples, and Mike

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Speaker 4: But I'll take my chances with four and thirteen.

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Speaker 2: Again, Like I get a kick out of all these

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Speaker 1: Don't say most of them, Paul. Whatever narrative the Steelers

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Speaker 3: The narrative that I would tell you.

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Speaker 2: The final four teams in the in the in the

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Speaker 2: got two first overall picks, a third overall pick, and

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Speaker 1: I think it's one. It's a one, two threes and

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Speaker 2: And and Stafford and uh, who's the other one?

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Speaker 3: Stafford was a one overall? And who was the other one?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly what I'm trying to make.

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Speaker 2: Ause you've got guys, you know, three guys that were

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Speaker 2: You go back, you start looking at guys like Mahomes,

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Speaker 2: as was Tom Brady. For the most part, guys that

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Speaker 3: So to me, I feel like, you know this idea.

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Speaker 2: That you can somehow magically, you know, figure out a different.

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Speaker 3: Formula, it just doesn't happen, you know. Yeah, do you

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Speaker 3: just like you have to hire the right coach.

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Speaker 2: But that is a different discussion than the fact that

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Speaker 2: if you are drafting at the top of the draft

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Speaker 1: Well, Paul, when you look at what the Patriots did too,

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Speaker 1: they drafted mac Jones I think it was fifteenth, and

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that's the other lesson you can learn

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Speaker 2: from the Patriots, Mark is the and the Eagles too.

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Speaker 2: They hired Jared Mayo to be the coach.

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Speaker 3: Guy that was, you know, very popular.

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Speaker 2: Former player, you know all that other stuff, and guess what,

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Speaker 2: by about six games into his time, they figured out,

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Speaker 2: this guy has no idea what he's doing. He's weighing

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Speaker 2: we're gonna hire somebody who's.

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Speaker 3: Confident and the bottom line is, if he had been

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Speaker 2: Year five before they decided they were gonna get rid

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Speaker 2: that Steelers have to start to try and think about

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Speaker 2: out of here. They hired this guy. You know what,

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Speaker 2: he came in, he won a Super.

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Speaker 2: This year and they're talking about cannon him next year

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Speaker 2: if he doesn't do it. The bottom line is, it's

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Speaker 2: be cutting edge in every aspect of you know, operations.

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Speaker 4: We're talking to Paul's Ice.

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Speaker 1: He's brought to just by eighty four lumber Dynasty partner

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Speaker 1: of the Pittsburgh Steelers, Paul Ben Roethlisberger says Will Howard

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 4: I'm not so sure.

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Speaker 1: It might not happen, depends on who the coaches, but

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Speaker 2: I mean again, Will Howard is the ultimate guy that

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Speaker 2: you know, everybody loves because no one's ever really seen

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Speaker 3: Ben.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he played well in college, but my point is

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Speaker 2: you know the thing about it is, if you go

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Speaker 2: If you go with him and he flames out, then

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Speaker 2: you know what you're You're exactly where you want to be.

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Speaker 2: Where you get a high draft pick and go find

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Speaker 2: the stealers don't.

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Speaker 3: Operate that way. They're gonna go.

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Speaker 2: Find another Aaron Rodgers want to be and maybe even

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers himself, right, and then they're going to you know,

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Speaker 4: No, No, I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: And I you see, the thing is I want Aaron

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Speaker 1: I want them to go four and thirteen. I think

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Speaker 4: I really do see.

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Speaker 3: That, right.

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Speaker 2: And and the thing about it like, like like we

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Speaker 2: You know, they know that they need to correct the mistake,

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Speaker 2: next year they'll find the next Aaron Rodgers. You know,

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Speaker 2: And I just I just feel like it's a recipe

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Speaker 2: that's what they've done for eight or nine years. They've

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Speaker 3: You know, it's funny.

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Speaker 2: There are still a few people out there who are

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Speaker 2: you know, the diehards that really believe that somehow they

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Speaker 2: would trade the last six years of the Steelers because

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Speaker 2: they haven't had a losing record, uh, for the last

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Speaker 2: six years of the Patriots.

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Speaker 4: And I can go better than that, Paul.

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Speaker 1: I've had I've had a half dozen people tweeted me

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Speaker 1: when I talk about how the Patriots you know, have

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Speaker 1: about now people texted, people tweeted, me, well, they beat

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I know you're a big college sports guy.

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Speaker 1: Uh, Indiana winning the football playoff, does that give legitimate

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 2: No, I mean I think Mark, what we've learned and

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Speaker 2: I mean, it is a great story, but this isn't

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Speaker 3: Pay money, and you hire the right.

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Speaker 2: Coach, guess what, you can be good quickly because the

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Speaker 3: Is it's now free agency, you know. And I was

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Speaker 2: Could you imagine that pitch team dome imb in a

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Speaker 3: And so you know, you see some.

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Speaker 3: Let's call it what it is and go and get players.

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Speaker 2: So at the end of the day, Alabama, LSU, you know,

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Speaker 3: And so, you know, Kurt know that he's done a job.

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Speaker 2: I'm not at an all time he's diminish what he did,

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Speaker 3: They don't care about facilities. They don't care about the.

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Speaker 2: Ghosts and Hallard ghosts of Notre Dame. They don't care

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Speaker 3: None of that stuff matters.

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Speaker 2: What matters is when I come on your campus, how

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Speaker 2: good in a hurry. I don't know who the worst

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Speaker 2: that team would be in the playoff next year. That's

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Speaker 2: the hope that is, you know, that's where the hope comes.

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Speaker 2: Because I think, honestly, a lot of people on this

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Speaker 2: reading this is like kurch Ignetty is some sort of

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Speaker 3: Ran and beat the big boys. No, he dine a

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Speaker 3: great job, but.

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Speaker 2: He also had a lot of people that paid money

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Speaker 4: Paul, great stuff. Will do it again next week.

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Speaker 3: All right, thanks man, We'll talk to you.

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Speaker 4: That's Paul's heics.

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Speaker 1: This Singma Brook list by eighty four Lumber Liverpool under

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Speaker 1: It made me sick that Mark Cuban is like taking

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Speaker 1: But he did pitch in a lot of money. It

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Speaker 1: so give me a break. He's not a Pittsburgh guy.

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Speaker 1: He's a guy who happens to be from Pittsburgh but

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Speaker 4: Men and dream so be it baby c X at

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Speaker 1: The overreaction Indiana winning it's a lot of fun, and

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I'm a big Decorsi fan.

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Speaker 1: But uh, if he thinks that Indiana winning is a

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Speaker 1: the Soviets in a miracle on ice in nineteen eighty,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what he's been smoking.

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Speaker 4: Liverpool's the crossbar.

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Speaker 3: It can never be.

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Speaker 4: Easy, So.

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Speaker 1: It's not the best story ever in sports. The miracle

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Speaker 1: they just missed a sitter. Oh my god, up and down,

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Speaker 1: back and forth. Indiana winning is a great story. I

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Speaker 1: gotta give the NBC this. I got to give Paul

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Speaker 1: fine Bomb credit. On ESPN, he says he's still not

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Speaker 1: convinced Signetti is a great coach. What is fine Bomb

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Speaker 1: waiting for Signetti to prove himself in the long run?

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Speaker 1: Signetti sixty four ain't gonna be no long run unless

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Speaker 1: he beats the odds and lives forever. It hasn't Oh no, wait,

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Speaker 1: it hasn't happened. Let's go to Chad and Robinson. Chad

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Speaker 1: drawn with Mark.

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Speaker 3: Mark.

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Speaker 5: I want to talk about that a coaching situation. But

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Speaker 5: before that, so there's a whole since Tomlin opt to

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Speaker 5: have his contract early, people the trade for him, is

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Speaker 5: that just more of a.

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Speaker 6: Money cap thing or can we actually get something more

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's not gonna He's not gonna coach this year.

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Speaker 4: It's a moot point, is what it is.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so it's completely irrelevant.

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Speaker 4: I think it is.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not a lazy talk show host. I

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Speaker 1: They should trade Tomlin for this, trade Tomlin for that.

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Speaker 1: He's not going to coach this season. And everybody knows

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Speaker 1: and I do not.

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Speaker 4: Let's go to Matt. Matt, you're on with Double M.

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Speaker 7: Hey, Mark, I got a question about Mendoza. What do

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Speaker 4: You know, it's been quite a while since somebody pulled that,

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Speaker 7: It's not since Eli Manning.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. That's a good question.

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Speaker 1: Uh My candidate to do it has always been Arch

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Speaker 1: Arch will try to dictate where he goes. I really

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Speaker 1: do think that. But as far as Mendoza, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen him. I mean I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I mean.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't have I mean he's getting big nil at

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Put it this way, I would, I just don't know

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Speaker 1: I would as well?

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Speaker 7: I know he made it in business the Cow and

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Speaker 1: winner two thousand and nine. You see him on sports

445
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Speaker 1: Net Pittsburgh. Always a pleasure to welcome Tyler Kennedy t K.

446
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Speaker 1: The tang might play tonight. Carlson definitely out. But what

447
00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,800
Speaker 1: if they both are out? How can that defense corp

448
00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,040
Speaker 1: function without those two or even one, especially in terms

449
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:19,800
Speaker 1: of puck movement.

450
00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,760
Speaker 5: One keep it simple and the other thing is on

451
00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:29,919
Speaker 5: the forwards, making sure at the offensive blue line it

452
00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:34,160
Speaker 5: gets in, no turnovers, all that East West stuff. Kind

453
00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,480
Speaker 5: of get rid of it and go norse out. Keep

454
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:40,920
Speaker 5: the game as simple as possible, so you're playing the

455
00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,399
Speaker 5: lesson your own end. And then he talked about the players,

456
00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,520
Speaker 5: is about guys stepping up. You know, Graves has been

457
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,960
Speaker 5: you know, up and down. He's been down most of

458
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,600
Speaker 5: the year. This is a big opportunity to show not

459
00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,040
Speaker 5: only the Penguins but other teams in the league that

460
00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,040
Speaker 5: he's an NHL player. So I think it comes you know,

461
00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,000
Speaker 5: I think it might be a good time to see

462
00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:05,640
Speaker 5: guys kind of fill in different roles. But it's definitely

463
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 5: a big hole to fill with. Maybe two of those guys, oh,

464
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 5: because both have been playing pretty well over the last

465
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Speaker 5: couple months.

466
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Speaker 1: Well, a few guys, like you said, have gotten opportunities

467
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Speaker 1: with with with defenseman injured.

468
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Speaker 4: What's your take on Connor Clifton.

469
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Speaker 1: He wasn't in the line up much at season's beginning,

470
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Speaker 1: but he's had a couple of good games recently, hasn't he.

471
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

472
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Speaker 5: You know what what I like about him is he

473
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,199
Speaker 5: brings a little sand paper to the game, Like he

474
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 5: plays like a little ratty game that we haven't seen

475
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Speaker 5: from a defenseman in a long time. And when I

476
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 5: see the guys he kind of cheap shots or he

477
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,199
Speaker 5: goes after even you know that hit from behind, Like

478
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Speaker 5: he he's a smart player, as in he goes after

479
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,880
Speaker 5: the top guys, the top two line guys, not the

480
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,959
Speaker 5: third and fourth wine guys. He's very smart at that.

481
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Speaker 5: Watch watch next game. Like even the hit from behind,

482
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 5: he hit Brandon, he hit point or who do he

483
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,400
Speaker 5: hit someone? Point?

484
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,919
Speaker 1: Yeah it was a penalty, but yeah he he it was.

485
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Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't like it palty, but at least

486
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 1: he the right guy, I know what you mean.

487
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 5: And after that the team kind of found another gear.

488
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 5: Like it it went from being kind of not a

489
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:26,120
Speaker 5: stale game, but when he did that, the game got

490
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Speaker 5: to another level. And I think he's been playing great again,

491
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 5: he's a young guy. I think he's trying to find

492
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Speaker 5: his way, trying to establish himself. But he does bring

493
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Speaker 5: that sandpaper that I really like. And you know, he

494
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Speaker 5: doesn't turn the puck over. He plays pretty solid in

495
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Speaker 5: his own end and he finished his checks, which is

496
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Speaker 5: good to.

497
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Speaker 1: See in that vein t K want to talk about

498
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Speaker 1: the fourth line Achari and Laza Ender And I'm normally

499
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Speaker 1: not a fan of like what I call a hero

500
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Speaker 1: fourth line, but.

501
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Speaker 4: These guys fit the description. They're making impact, aren't.

502
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Speaker 5: They, And I find them they're like the new modern

503
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,959
Speaker 5: day fourth line, right they They don't really have a

504
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 5: tough guy on the line. You know, it's not like

505
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,719
Speaker 5: there's one guy that fights the other guy. It's an energy.

506
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 5: It's like a third line pushed down in the fourth line.

507
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 5: You know, they all compete. They're little water bugs and

508
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 5: they're so good at hanging onto the pock down low

509
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 5: like wearing teams out and the effort, that second effort

510
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 5: that the lazatte brings doers got more skill than I

511
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 5: think even Kyle Dubis might have thought getting them because

512
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 5: once you have ten or eleven goals right now, as

513
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Speaker 5: a fourth liner, like that's I think, yeah, like we'll

514
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Speaker 5: take that as a fourth line guy.

515
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Speaker 3: That's huge.

516
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Speaker 5: And then Noel, he's just a solid Craig Adams like

517
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 5: player that fits in really well.

518
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Speaker 3: With those guys. But I love them.

519
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Speaker 5: They they're they bring an energy to the lineup that

520
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 5: I'd like. That you that he trusts that's another thing

521
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 5: that Muse trusts them, throwing them out there app against

522
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 5: the second line if the other two lines need to break.

523
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Speaker 5: He is not shy to put him out against top

524
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Speaker 5: lines because he knows he play. They play responsible with

525
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,360
Speaker 5: the puck and you know they're not fancy. They chip

526
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 5: the puck in and go to work. You know, they

527
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 5: got the lunch pale mentality and that's what you need

528
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Speaker 5: from your fourth line. And they create them right. They

529
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Speaker 5: create penalties, they create payoffs, and that's exactly what I

530
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Speaker 5: think the modern day fourth line should look like.

531
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Speaker 1: Stuart Skinner's going to make a second straight starting goal tonight.

532
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Speaker 1: Do you think he's inching toward being the number one goalie,

533
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 1: you know, getting like maybe sixty percent of the starts,

534
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Speaker 1: maybe two out of every three, because I think he's

535
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: looked slightly better than shilloffs and certainly better in the shootout,

536
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: although we don't know because shilloffs by bad fortune gets

537
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,640
Speaker 1: all the shootouts.

538
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think again, it takes a little bit of

539
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 5: time to get comfortable. I think he's getting better every game,

540
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 5: and yeah, I do think he's probably going to be

541
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Speaker 5: the number one. He went all the way to the

542
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 5: Stanley Cup finals last two years. That brings an area

543
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 5: about your confidence that I think the team feels, and

544
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 5: I think it's good. I'm I'm a little bit different

545
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 5: where I run my I would run my goalie until

546
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 5: the wheels fall off. I wouldn't go back and forth.

547
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 5: I like when coaches stay with the same goalie until

548
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 5: you lose or he doesn't play well. Because for the Penguins,

549
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 5: like these these games right now, these points right now

550
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 5: where I think they can make or break the playoffs.

551
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 5: If you have a goalie that's playing well in your confident,

552
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 5: why would you go back to your backup or your

553
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 5: other goalie when he's starting to feel it Like? It's

554
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,239
Speaker 5: all about rhythm, right, It's all about confiden It's all

555
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 5: about rhythm, And that's why I feel like the old

556
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 5: school guys like Flower bro Or they wanted that in

557
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 5: that every night because it's almost like you stay in

558
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 5: that the heat of the moment, the rhythm of the games,

559
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 5: and you just get in that pattern when you're on

560
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 5: and off. I do feel it's tough for a goalie,

561
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 5: but they've been doing it pretty well. But I'm hoping

562
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 5: he has another good game tonight and he just kind

563
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 5: they keep throwing it in his court to play better

564
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 5: and better, because again, he does have the skill to

565
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Speaker 5: do it.

566
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Speaker 1: Well, here's the weird party, k He's not going to

567
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Speaker 1: play tomorrow night. He's not going to play back to

568
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: back nights on a road trip. But they play at Edmonton.

569
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: Of course, the team he got traded from. It's a

570
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: little odd that they didn't give a shot to go

571
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,719
Speaker 1: back to Edmonton and play, which I'm sure he wanted,

572
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 1: but I can also see why he wouldn't. It takes

573
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 1: a little bit of emotion out of the game if

574
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Speaker 1: it's hilloffs in goal, and maybe that benefits the Penguins.

575
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Speaker 4: What's your take on that situation.

576
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 5: Well, I think that's a great explanation of why they're

577
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,239
Speaker 5: not playing them, because when you have a guy that

578
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 5: played for you last two years, a little bit more.

579
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 3: Emphasis on that game. But if you do.

580
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 5: Like you said, take about it's more of a maybe

581
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 5: a stale er headline going to the game. So hopefully

582
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 5: you catch the Edmonton oiler sleeping a little bit coming

583
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 5: playing against the Pittsburgh Penguins, which they probably won't because

584
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 5: of the Sidney Crosby effect.

585
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's David against Sid. McDavid always turns it up.

586
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, David flies all the time, but against

587
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: the Penguin and Sid, it's just another dimension.

588
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, And like you can't blame him, right, Like no,

589
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 5: like McDavid zaid, like he grew up with the poster

590
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 5: on his wall of Sidney Crosby. And then when you

591
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 5: play against your you know, your boyhood idol, like you

592
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 5: want to show him how good you are too, And

593
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 5: that's why I think he leveled, Like you know, that's

594
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 5: why he plays so good. And then we think of

595
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 5: Ovechkin and Sid. How many great games have we seen

596
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 5: those two play? Just because every one of those guys

597
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 5: thinks and wants to be the best. And McDavid's no different.

598
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 5: He's going to get the guy that's kind of ran

599
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 5: the realm for twenty years and he's this new guy.

600
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 5: Well you know, he's a new guy. New superstar on

601
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 5: the block, like he wants to show Sid that it's okay,

602
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 5: that he's the next guy that can kind of take over.

603
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 7: Well.

604
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: It's funny though, because mcdavi has been around obviously for

605
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: a number of years, but he never seems to take

606
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: this game against Pittsburgh and against sid for granted, I

607
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: kind of wish you'd start. We're talking todk here on

608
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: one oh five ninety x DK speaking of Sid has

609
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: anybody ever been better deflecting the puck than Sidney Crosby

610
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: That goal to diet late against Columbus, It's like watching

611
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: Picasso paint.

612
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, And like you know, I've personally seen grist Latang

613
00:28:55,840 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 5: and Sidney Crosby do it every single prize. Like people

614
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 5: think here and there, No, no Sid works on that

615
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 5: side tip. He's probably done it a million times in practice.

616
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 5: And to see it, you know, keep working. It's unreal.

617
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 5: And now when it works so much, now the other guys,

618
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 5: other defensemans are looking for sid because they know he

619
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 5: comes around the back kind of gets lost and he's

620
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 5: got that split second where he jumps in that open

621
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 5: space and it's it's a great move. He gets lost

622
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,959
Speaker 5: a little bit, but the tips and all that stuff, Like,

623
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 5: it's not because he was born being a great tipper.

624
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 5: It's because of the work and that he put in,

625
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 5: you know, Like what makes sid so special is how

626
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 5: dialed in he is and how he's willing to work

627
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 5: on stuff that like most guys won't, you know, like

628
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 5: you rarely see guys in practice work on tips, never

629
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 5: see guys work on backhands like I'm talking to like

630
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 5: the little kids out there, Mark that just want to

631
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 5: shoot top shelf every time. When you think of a

632
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 5: guy like Sidney Crosby, and what makes him so good

633
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 5: is one doing stuff that other people won't do, Like

634
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 5: I said, tips, backhands, eating healthy.

635
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 3: Because over the last.

636
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 5: Little bit, I'm like wow, Like when I look over

637
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 5: my career all like the unbelievable players, let's think of

638
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 5: McK david. What this McDavis got. I've never seen skating

639
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 5: and skating like his in my whole life. And then

640
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 5: I'm like, well, well what about sid And I'm like, well,

641
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 5: he doesn't have a hard shot, right, His SHOT's good

642
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 5: and it's gotten a lot better, but it's never at

643
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 5: the top, say ten in the league. Right his skating,

644
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 5: No one's better at protecting the puck, but pure speed,

645
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 5: he might not be the top ten. So, like, how

646
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 5: is he one of the best players to ever play

647
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 5: the game. And it's because there's no one more dialed

648
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 5: in and detailed and will and wanting to get better

649
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 5: every day than sid And it starts in his practice,

650
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 5: from going out early getting passes from the assistant coach

651
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 5: ripping them, or after practice grabbing a defenseman and doing

652
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 5: that silly tip that he's probably got one hundred and

653
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 5: fifty goals off, you know in his career. Yeah, it's

654
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 5: it's unreal. But Mark the stuff he like, he is

655
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 5: so like everything he does is right on point, from

656
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 5: his eating everything Mark and and I've been around Hall

657
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 5: of Fame guys and I've never seen anyone dialed in

658
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 5: like him. And that's why he's having the career. That's

659
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 5: why he's probably playing the best out of any guy

660
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Speaker 5: at his age I've ever seen. And it's because every day,

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Speaker 5: you know, he goes, hey, I'm eating healthy, I'm going

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Speaker 5: to bed early. His mindset that that's what makes Sidney

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Speaker 5: the net, is like, oh my god. The Pittsburgh Penguins

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Speaker 5: fans have seen this like fifty times in the career,

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Speaker 5: Like how the goalie's not going to figure out when

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Speaker 5: eighty seven's on the ice and it goes to the

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Speaker 3: So I like the fun.

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Speaker 1: I like Chinnikov so far. What's your take. I like

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Speaker 1: that he shoots a lot. A lot of players pass

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Speaker 1: up good shots these days.

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Speaker 5: You're talking to a guy that never turned down a

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Speaker 5: pass that, yeah, never turned down a shot. I didn't,

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Speaker 5: Matt Cook. You said he's had the horse blinders on

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Speaker 5: once I went over the blue line. But it's because

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Speaker 5: I didn't want to pass the cookie. I was playing

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Speaker 5: the percentages that if I missed it better than passing

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Speaker 5: the Cook. But anyways, I love this guy. I think

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Speaker 5: he plays very well with Milkin. He's a shooter, he's

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Speaker 5: got maybe one of the best shots on the Penguins,

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Speaker 5: and he's not shy to get it off. And he

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Speaker 5: filled a little bit of a hole on the penalty

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Speaker 5: in the shootouts.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure, we found a guy that, like, you know,

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Speaker 5: we're like, oh, he actually has a really good chance

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Speaker 5: to score. He's got a great track record, he has

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Speaker 5: a great move where he goes. He uses his speed

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Speaker 5: to go fible, kind of like how Sib used to do.

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Speaker 5: But I like him. I think he plays well with Milkin.

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Speaker 5: I think he's a he's an unbelievable pick up. And

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Speaker 5: I talked to a guy that talked that was I

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Speaker 5: was actually in Columbus with my son this week and playing,

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Speaker 5: and we were asking some of the Columbus whole like

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Speaker 5: why didn't like why how did we get a player

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Speaker 5: like this.

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Speaker 3: For Heinen?

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Speaker 5: And they're like it was because the old coach.

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Speaker 4: Was like and he just butted heads constantly. From what

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Speaker 4: I'm but it head and yeah, and.

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Speaker 5: He just if he turned the puck over once, he'd

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Speaker 5: sit for a period and they just butted heads and

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Speaker 5: it just wasn't a good fit. But everyone in Columbus

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Speaker 5: loved him. They thought he was a great player with

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Speaker 5: a real high ceiling. And to see him leave was

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Speaker 5: kind of like weird because they fired their coach after

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Speaker 5: and it was like, well, why do we get rid

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Speaker 5: of a first rounder when you knew you were firing

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Speaker 5: the coach?

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Speaker 3: So I don't know, I like him. I'm glad we.

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Speaker 5: Picked him up. I thought we win the trade, and

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Speaker 5: I think he's just gonna keep getting better with the

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Speaker 5: more icy gets.

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Speaker 1: He always thinks the Penguins at some point, you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe in the offseason going to make a move for

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Speaker 1: Jason Roberts and the Dallas winger. Whether it's no to

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Speaker 1: sign up to an offer sheet in the offseason as

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Speaker 1: a restricted free agent or trade for him. And it's

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Speaker 1: logical TK because Dallas can't afford to re up him

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Speaker 1: after having signed Ranton In and Heiskinnen and Attinger, you

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Speaker 1: know the names, but the Penguins could.

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Speaker 4: How good is he? I mean, that's a guy.

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Speaker 3: Boy.

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Speaker 1: If you get him a twenty six, that's a star

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Speaker 1: in his prime, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And I think that's part of Kyle Duwis's grand scheme,

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Speaker 5: finding guys like that. That's why he's building up this

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Speaker 5: caps because when guys like that come up, he's one

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Speaker 5: of the front runners because he's got money to spend

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Speaker 5: on guys like that, and he's part of the next

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Speaker 5: generation of talent. Right he's twenty six, he's an All Star,

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Speaker 5: he's a great player. He's a guy that can take

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Speaker 5: the range and put up big points when Sid and

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Speaker 5: Gino aren't there. I think that would be a huge

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Speaker 5: move in a great move for the Penguins moving forward

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Speaker 5: to get a guy like that, because I like the kid.

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Speaker 5: I think he's a great player. I think he gets

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Speaker 5: lost a little bit Dallas because they don't get much

742
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Speaker 5: publicity there. But that would be a big move, and

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Speaker 5: again he would be part of that next generation of

744
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 5: stars for the Pittsburgh Penguins that we're looking for. Again,

745
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Speaker 5: he's a highlight, real guy. And you got to give

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Speaker 5: credit to Kyle Dubas because three or four years, you know,

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Speaker 5: two years ago, he started, you know, getting rid of

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Speaker 5: some of that, you know, the guys that have had

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Speaker 5: You know, the you know, the jar E's, the guys

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Speaker 5: like that. So when things like this come up, he

752
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Speaker 5: can have that big lure to catch the big fish.

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Speaker 5: So I think I hope it comes true, you know,

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Speaker 5: hopefully maybe at the deadline if they can't come to

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Speaker 5: an agreement.

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Speaker 1: Finally, TK I don't want to jinx it and I'm

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Speaker 1: not assuming anything, and I know what the standings look like.

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Speaker 1: But the Penguins kind of look more and more like

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Speaker 1: a playoff team, don't they.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's they play a it's crazy that we're saying, Like,

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Speaker 5: I feel like they play a pretty structured game like

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Speaker 5: they've they've they've they've made some big differences in their

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Speaker 5: defensive game, from blocking shots to get in puck lanes,

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Speaker 5: to learn like to having a fourth line, to wearing

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Speaker 5: teams down, to finding a goalie, finding two goalies that

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Speaker 5: aren't letting first shot, first goal in to kind of

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Speaker 5: sink them right off the bat like. And then you

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Speaker 5: think of some of their additions, some of the depth

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Speaker 5: editions that have worked out very well. The Bras, oh

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Speaker 5: the Mantha, you know, like those guys are doers, the

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Speaker 5: guys that are a little piece.

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Speaker 3: Of the puzzle.

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Speaker 5: You know, they are they gonna eat up all these myths, No,

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Speaker 5: but they are going to help pull the rope. So

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Speaker 5: when you see that, when you have a team that

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Speaker 5: plays all four lines that are all structured, that are

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Speaker 5: all doing the same thing, it's it's great to see.

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Speaker 5: And that's what you need from a team that wants

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Speaker 5: to play in the playoffs. And the only thing sometimes

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Speaker 5: I see is when you get Latang Carlson all these

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Speaker 5: almost get overconfident and they start they start getting into

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Speaker 5: their old happens where they have to lose word a

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00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 5: couple of games and they're like, no, no, we're not

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Speaker 5: this high end ski team. We need to play a

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Speaker 5: structure game to keep winning games. And that's what's happening

787
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Speaker 5: right now. Again, they lose a couple, they figure out, Okay,

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Speaker 5: we're not that team like we were last year. Let's

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Speaker 5: get back to what the Pittsburgh Penguins need to do

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Speaker 5: to win hockey. And that's what they're doing. And you know,

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Speaker 5: it's a fun team to watch right now.

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Speaker 4: TK, great stuff. Will do it again soon. Thank you.

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Speaker 3: All right, thanks Mark, have a good day.

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Speaker 1: That's how high school coaches operated.

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Speaker 3: Then.

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Speaker 4: They preferred the run.

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Speaker 1: But nick was a real good running back, and like

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Speaker 1: you said, went on to play at Clarion.

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Speaker 4: Let's go to a talkback.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm just curious this current Penguins team, if healthy,

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00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 2: can they win a playoff series?

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Speaker 3: If so, who could they be?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm beginning to think they look like a playoff team

886
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Speaker 1: like you just heard me talk about with Tyler Kennedy.

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Speaker 1: I think they could be the Islanders in the playoff series.

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00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: I think they could be the Washington in a playoff series.

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Speaker 1: But I have no idea who's going to make the

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Speaker 1: playoffs if the Penguins are too so.

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Speaker 4: It becomes more and more I won't say probable.

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Speaker 1: I'm not even trud to say possible, but I'm working

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Speaker 1: on it, so are they.

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Speaker 4: Let's go to Buffalo Bill. Buffalo Bill. You're on as

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Speaker 4: Mark anything, Mark.

896
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Speaker 5: Can you think of a more tragic situation in wrestling

897
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Speaker 5: than the story of the Von Eick Hamily.

898
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Speaker 4: There are a bunch of very tragic situations.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people that were friends of mine, Die Young, Brian,

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Speaker 1: Brian Pillman, Eddie Guerrero, certainly the tragedy of Chris Wlaw

901
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Speaker 1: from top to bottom. Yeah, the Von Erics in terms

902
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,439
Speaker 1: of a movie which they made it into with Zach

903
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: Effrin in wrestling Tights, the whole movie that was awesome.

904
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Speaker 1: But yeah, it was a good movie, and it's just

905
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Speaker 1: it's a depressing story. But I will say Kevin the

906
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Speaker 1: Loane's surviving Von Eric brother, I give Kevin a lot

907
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Speaker 1: of credit because he's done his best to make it

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Speaker 1: uplifting whenever he's given the chance.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 5: The story of Kevin really kind of is a fantastic

911
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Speaker 5: ending to an otherwise just horrific story. I didn't want

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Speaker 5: to ask, have you ever met Carrie?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I met Carrie a number of times.

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Speaker 1: When he was between like big time promotions, whether it

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Speaker 1: was World Class and then WBF. He worked for a

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Speaker 1: company in Philadelphia called the Tri State Wrestling Alliance, like

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Speaker 1: an indie thing, but it later morphed into ECW, but

919
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Speaker 1: that was the beginning. The seeds were sewn for ECW

920
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: with the Tri Storate Wrestling Alliance. And I met Carrie

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Speaker 1: a number of times there, two or three, and he

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Speaker 1: was a good guy. H you know, he had his problems,

923
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Speaker 1: and you know, he was the kind of guy. The

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Speaker 1: first time I met him, he introduced himself to me.

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Speaker 1: Three times. He kept forgetting that he introduced himself to me,

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Speaker 1: and that wasn't well, that was obviously drug induced.

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Speaker 4: Let's be blunted. Let's go another talkback.

928
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Speaker 3: A Bella Danger or Alana Rhodes.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know who Lona Rhodes is. I'm aged

930
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Speaker 1: out of the porn SEAMROV, but I have checked out

931
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Speaker 1: A Bella Danger, so I'm going to give her the nod.

932
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Speaker 4: Go to a talkback.

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Speaker 6: Hey, market's John in the car. I was just curious

934
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Speaker 6: that with the dual goaltending situation in Pittsburgh, Skinner to me,

935
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Speaker 6: clearly is the favorite to be the starter. How long

936
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Speaker 6: do you think they'll be doing this? Back and forth

937
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Speaker 6: before they named Skinner the starter before the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Uh, they got to make the playoffs first, Brov, It's

939
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Speaker 1: it's January.

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Speaker 4: I think Skinner's the better goalie. I don't think it's

941
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Speaker 4: as clear as you appear to.

942
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Speaker 1: I think shil Loss has played some decent games, but

943
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Speaker 1: he's horrible in the shootout and he's seems to let

944
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Speaker 1: up a bad goal. Not every game, but most games.

945
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Speaker 1: So how long is it going to be? I don't

946
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Speaker 1: think Dan Muse will ever name a number one goalie.

947
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Speaker 1: I think his actions will speak louder. And Skinner's making

948
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Speaker 1: a second straight start tonight, but I think that's just

949
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 1: too like t K and I talked about, have him

950
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: not started Edmonton and to try to turn that game

951
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: as vanilla as possible as opposed to the guy who

952
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Speaker 1: got Edmonton to the last two finals and lost. You know,

953
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Speaker 1: you stick him in the net and suddenly I know

954
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,479
Speaker 1: it's a grudge match, But now it's just a vanilla game.

955
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Speaker 1: Although it's always going to be McDavid against sid let's

956
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Speaker 1: go to one more talkback.

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Speaker 12: Mark Ben Roethlisberger said on his podcast that NFL teams

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Speaker 12: should build their teams first before drafting a quarterback. Do

959
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Speaker 12: you think this is something the Steelers and other NFL

960
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,280
Speaker 12: teams should consider doing going forward.

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Speaker 4: I don't think Ben's wrong.

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Speaker 1: I think it might be the easiest thing to do

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Speaker 1: to build your team and then PLoP the quarterback in

964
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Speaker 1: when it's built. But I don't know how you can

965
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Speaker 1: perfectly time that and work on it and think it's

966
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Speaker 1: going to succeed every time. Plus which what if you

967
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: draft the wrong quarterback like the Steelers did. This is

968
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Speaker 1: the Mark Madden Show, Liverpool three at Marseille Hill. It

969
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Speaker 1: was like just driving through the Arden forest on a

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Speaker 1: Wednesday afternoon, one oh five nine.

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Speaker 5: The X