Speaker 1: My Billy cunning in the Great America. Welcome Monday after Union.
Speaker 1: The tri State weather's coming in tonight and tomorrow. We'll
Speaker 1: see what happens. But at least we have the Bengals
Speaker 1: performing at high levels no one ever thought possible. There
Speaker 1: are seventeen chapters of the book of the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: five football season, and every game is a new chapter,
Speaker 1: with its own issues, its own characters, its own plot lines.
Speaker 1: And right now the Bengalleys are three and seven, should
Speaker 1: be seven and three to three and seven, and they're
Speaker 1: setting records here before unknown. According to Moegar, no team
Speaker 1: in the history of the National Football League has given
Speaker 1: up at least twenty seven points in nine consecutive games.
Speaker 1: Thee ods that getting to ten are quite good. Moeger,
Speaker 1: Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. First of all,
Speaker 1: give me the headline of this chapter of the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five book. But you thought nothing more than usual
Speaker 1: could transpart. Now we've got Spitgate. I'm watching the morning
Speaker 1: shows today. It's all about Spitgate, Jamarshall. It's also about
Speaker 1: Jama's dowit a little bit. But Jamarch as far as
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase, what happened with spitgate. I watched in real time.
Speaker 1: It didn't we couldn't see the spit and then you
Speaker 1: tweeted or shall say extra about it, saying, well, how
Speaker 1: come Ramsey's so angry about this thing? And then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden it came out. MO, where are you now?
Speaker 1: If anywhere? When it comes to spitgate, Willie be held accountable?
Speaker 1: Didn't commit perjury by lying to the media.
Speaker 2: Where are we? So there's a lot there. Number One,
Speaker 2: you sort of misrepresented my tweet, which is I have
Speaker 2: it right here if you want to say I called
Speaker 2: him a dope, because I think, regardless of how you've
Speaker 2: been provoked, if you punch somebody in the face who's
Speaker 2: wearing a football helmet, you're a moron because you're going.
Speaker 1: To get the worst of it.
Speaker 2: I don't care if Jalen Ramsey had every reason to
Speaker 2: be mad at Jamar Chase. I do not understand. You
Speaker 2: see this happen on the football field all the time.
Speaker 2: Two guys get into it. One guy throws a punch
Speaker 2: at a face mask, which is literally designed to protect
Speaker 2: the person's face, which means you're going to get the
Speaker 2: worst of it. So that's where my tweet came from.
Speaker 2: This was before we saw the video that I think
Speaker 2: pretty clearly shows Jamar Chase spinning on Jalen Ramsey. So
Speaker 2: there's a couple of questions here. Number one, what is
Speaker 2: the NFL gonna do with Jalen Ramsey? Number two or
Speaker 2: with Jamar Chase? Number two? Is the punishment going to
Speaker 2: be worse because Jamar didn't own up to spitting on Jail?
Speaker 2: I mean, I love Jamar Chase's a wonderful football player.
Speaker 2: But the video I think speaks for itself. What was
Speaker 2: going on between those two that made Jamar Chase, typically
Speaker 2: a pretty mild mannered guy, decide to do something that
Speaker 2: I think a lot of us would say is completely
Speaker 2: out of character. I'm kind of interested in that at
Speaker 2: the end of the day, though, that's a side show
Speaker 2: compared to the main issue, which was the Bengals pulled
Speaker 2: within eight points yesterday despite the fact that Joe Flacco
Speaker 2: I think was pretty clearly compromised, and yet again with
Speaker 2: the season in the game hanging in the balance, al
Speaker 2: Golan's defense. It's Al Goland, not Al Golden. There's no
Speaker 2: d al Golan's defense could not get a stop that
Speaker 2: has been a recurring theme time and again. Zach Taylor
Speaker 2: said two weeks ago going into the buy that he
Speaker 2: believes in al Golan, thinks they have a championship level defense. Yep,
Speaker 2: there was another instance where on a day in which
Speaker 2: it's not exactly like Aaron Rodgers and Mason Rudolph had
Speaker 2: shredded the Bengals defense.
Speaker 1: You're down by eight points, You've got a shot.
Speaker 2: Your defense has to give you the ball back, and
Speaker 2: al Golan's defense again could not. That has been a
Speaker 2: recurring theme. So the Jamar Chase thing is an interesting
Speaker 2: side show. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase is not a Bengals problem. Al Goland's defense
Speaker 2: and Duke Tobin building al Gole in that defense, those
Speaker 2: are bigger picture issues that matter a lot more.
Speaker 1: When will the suspension involving maybe two to three million
Speaker 1: dollars of fines come down? Because if he makes them,
Speaker 1: this is a paycheck. It's a big deal. I think
Speaker 1: about two or three million happens. Does that happened today, tomorrow, Wednesday?
Speaker 1: When does that occur? Is there an appeal? Do you
Speaker 1: want to appeal?
Speaker 2: MO?
Speaker 1: Get the lawyers involved.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm going to guess that the punishment is handed
Speaker 2: down pretty quickly here. We obviously have precedent with what
Speaker 2: happened in the first game of the season, where there
Speaker 2: was a spitting incident involving the player before the first
Speaker 2: play from scrimmage, there was an ejection.
Speaker 1: They ruled that the game that he missed.
Speaker 2: We'll see if that happens with Jamar Chase, and I
Speaker 2: do wonder if him not owning up to it despite
Speaker 2: I think is pretty pretty graphic visual evidence that he
Speaker 2: did spit on jumping. I wonder if that's go spit,
Speaker 2: if that's going to play a role here. But but again,
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, it's an interesting story.
Speaker 2: But that sort of distractions from another poorly coach game
Speaker 2: by Zach Taylor, terrible, where he did some game management
Speaker 2: things that I do not understand, you.
Speaker 1: Know, fourth and one and try to trick him and
Speaker 1: wasting a time out time.
Speaker 2: I mean in the entire time early in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 2: when they're down by multiple scores, they're going about their
Speaker 2: business like they're winning by eleven points.
Speaker 1: It made no sense.
Speaker 2: Another poor effort by the defense, and we have seven
Speaker 2: more games of this. This has been one of the
Speaker 2: longest seasons that I can win. We have seven more
Speaker 2: games of this season.
Speaker 1: On the brink.
Speaker 2: You get to see here for three hours, and you
Speaker 2: get to talk about you get to talk about politics
Speaker 2: and Trump and Stanstein. Well, you're probably not really gonna
Speaker 2: want to talk about that, but.
Speaker 1: I you now. Trump said it's okay. Now, Trump said
Speaker 1: it's okay. Yeah, you get to talk about all that stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm stuck in the world where for three hours every
Speaker 1: day down the hall, I have to I can't leave
Speaker 1: the Bengals. I have seven, seven more games. Tony Pike
Speaker 1: took me off to the side a few minutes. You
Speaker 1: remember Tony Pike, is he's still here today?
Speaker 3: He is?
Speaker 1: Yes, today's here. He said, who has more tackles this season?
Speaker 1: Is it Shamar Stewart or Jamar Chase? And I would
Speaker 1: have to assume and Stewart as the defensive end, would
Speaker 1: have more tackles, Yeah, than the great Number one, would
Speaker 1: you agree? I mean, if somebody asked you in game ten,
Speaker 1: who's got more tackles a defensive end or a wide receiver,
Speaker 1: you might say I'm going with the defensive end. Yes. However,
Speaker 1: statistically we have Chase has more tackles than Stewart. Can
Speaker 1: you explain that to Tony Bender?
Speaker 2: Shamar Stewart has been ineffective and he has been hurt,
Speaker 2: and the rookie season is a wash.
Speaker 1: I think it's way too early to call him a bust.
Speaker 2: But the Bengals I made it known going into the
Speaker 2: draft that remember, last year's defense stunk, right, okay.
Speaker 1: So bad they fired the DC out it.
Speaker 2: Last year's defense stunk. Did they do that much in
Speaker 2: free agency?
Speaker 1: No? No, no.
Speaker 2: They signed Orrin Burks, who doesn't make any impact at all,
Speaker 2: and they brought in TJ. Slayton from the Packers, who
Speaker 2: I think has many stops against the.
Speaker 1: Run as you do. This year. He's on a milk card.
Speaker 1: But the message was we're not going to be that
Speaker 1: active in free agency. Number one, We're sticking with this team.
Speaker 1: Number one. We think al Golan can fix it. Is
Speaker 1: there's no d in it. That's not what Rocky Boyman says.
Speaker 1: He said he came from the Golden Dome Goland to
Speaker 1: the Golden Yea.
Speaker 2: Well, I wish you would go back. Al Goland is
Speaker 2: going to fix it, and in the draft we're gonna
Speaker 2: get players who can make an immediate impact on defense
Speaker 2: right now, And I thought, Okay, well, let's see what
Speaker 2: they did well. Has Shamar Stewart made an impact on defense?
Speaker 2: Who has Demetrius Knight, who they drafted as a linebacker,
Speaker 2: who's like forty five years old? Has he made any
Speaker 2: impact on defense? Barrett Carter? Barrett Carter may turn out
Speaker 2: to be an excellent player. I think he is going
Speaker 2: to be solely remembered for getting just trucked yesterday.
Speaker 1: Who is that guy, that wrecking ball, the incredible hulk
Speaker 1: who came through the Pittsburgh line of Washington. I'd give
Speaker 1: that guy.
Speaker 2: He looks like he looks like a tackle. Doesn't he
Speaker 2: a tight end? Yeah? And so this year's draft class
Speaker 2: of defensive players has given them nothing. They looked at
Speaker 2: last year safety group and they didn't add to it.
Speaker 2: Did you watch Geno Stone quote try to tackle yesterday?
Speaker 1: That's embarrassing.
Speaker 2: Did you watch the Bengals corners again struggle as I
Speaker 2: have all season long?
Speaker 1: They did nothing to that group.
Speaker 2: And so this season has been a nightmare from a
Speaker 2: number of different perspectives. At the top of the list
Speaker 2: for me has been how their strategy with the defense
Speaker 2: has failed and what they tried to accomplish with regards
Speaker 2: to the draft. On defense, this year has yielded nothing
Speaker 2: that makes you feel like those players are worth moving
Speaker 2: forward with.
Speaker 1: Well, Zach Taylor says, also known as Zach Shul, we
Speaker 1: simply have to get better. Would you agree? And he
Speaker 1: also said he's not wrong. We've got to score more points.
Speaker 1: He's not wrong about that either. Well, he can identify
Speaker 1: the problem. Yes, Now, Canny come up with a solution
Speaker 1: that makes any sense. I think that what is the solution?
Speaker 1: I need the solution. They don't have talk. Let's do something.
Speaker 1: They don't have enough good players.
Speaker 2: I mean they don't have enough good players. That was
Speaker 2: the case last year. Joe Burrow had the greatest single
Speaker 2: season of any Bengals quarterback in the history of the franchise.
Speaker 1: Think about that.
Speaker 2: Because they've had MVP winning seasons by quarterbacks and they
Speaker 2: went nine to eight and didn't make the postseason.
Speaker 1: That should have told you their players aren't good enough.
Speaker 1: By the way.
Speaker 2: On offense, you know, Joe Flacco turned into a pumpkin.
Speaker 2: I think he was physically compromised yesterday. But I think
Speaker 2: if you look at him on offense, pretty happy with
Speaker 2: the pieces they have. I even think the offensive line
Speaker 2: is playing okay. Chase Brown is a legitimate dude, Chase Higgins, Burrow,
Speaker 2: they've got guys when they're spitting on players. But they
Speaker 2: did last year as well. Offensively, they were awesome last season.
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow was awesome last year. Jamar Chase won the
Speaker 2: Triple Crown. They didn't make the postseason because of a
Speaker 2: defense that they barely.
Speaker 1: Addressed, also known as the Mattadors.
Speaker 2: If Duke Tobin worked for you and he's sitting across
Speaker 2: the table from you and he was in charge of
Speaker 2: the defense, aren't you asking him?
Speaker 4: Bro?
Speaker 1: Why can't you fix this? Why? Why did you look
Speaker 1: at last.
Speaker 2: Year's defense and go, you know what, we're going to
Speaker 2: bring back most of these guys. How could you look
Speaker 2: at the safety position and go, you know what, let's
Speaker 2: leave well enough alone.
Speaker 1: Who's making these Is it Duke Tobin? Is it? And
Speaker 1: is it Elizabeth? Is it? Katie?
Speaker 4: Is it?
Speaker 1: Mike?
Speaker 2: And by the way, over the last six weeks, Nick
Speaker 2: Krawl has spoken publicly more than Duke Tobin has, and
Speaker 2: Nick Krawl's team hasn't played. I think that's the frustrating
Speaker 2: thing for me. Duke Tobin's radio silence, I think is
Speaker 2: weak as hell.
Speaker 1: Doesn't it make sense though? Does it make sense? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't want to talk? Well, if I.
Speaker 2: Was Duke Tobin as a human being, I would go,
Speaker 2: you know what, I built that roster and offensive players
Speaker 2: are having to answer questions about a defense that I built,
Speaker 2: and the head coach of the team has to answer
Speaker 2: questions three times a week about a team that I
Speaker 2: built for him. You know what, maybe during the bye week,
Speaker 2: I'll come downstairs and you could ask me, and I'll
Speaker 2: take that.
Speaker 1: He's not going to do that. Of course he's not
Speaker 1: going to do that. It's weak. It's weak that he's
Speaker 1: doesn't And so I.
Speaker 2: Maybe it wouldn't matter, Maybe it wouldn't make anybody feel
Speaker 2: any better. But I just think, as a human being,
Speaker 2: if I was Duke Tobin'd go, Okay, I created this mess.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to make other people answer for it. No,
Speaker 1: not the and another situation, and so Mason Rudolph came
Speaker 1: in and did pretty well. Aaron Rodgers doesn't look right
Speaker 1: and his Steelers helmet, he doesn't look right. He's done
Speaker 1: dun and done right. He's broken hand left handy right
Speaker 1: and so Mason Rudolph, has been the forever backup for
Speaker 1: the last six or seven years, did pretty well. He
Speaker 1: did anybody who do well against the Bengal defense.
Speaker 2: I mean, let's be honest, what they have over the
Speaker 2: next couple of weeks is Drake May who might beat
Speaker 2: the MVP this season, and then Lauren Jackson, who's been
Speaker 2: the MVP twice.
Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't get any better.
Speaker 2: I thought Aaron Rodgers played poorly yesterday, and you get
Speaker 2: the typical bag with Aaron Rodgers where every time he
Speaker 2: throws it in the complete pass, he throws him in
Speaker 2: the temper tantrum. And I was wondering what the injury
Speaker 2: was to see if he actually would take an injection
Speaker 2: for that, but I guess it's a broken wrist, and so.
Speaker 1: That wasn't gonna help.
Speaker 2: I don't think the Steelers are very good, and I
Speaker 2: think that's what makes yesterday so frustrating. Right, Baltimore is
Speaker 2: the odds on favorite to win this division. I think
Speaker 2: Baltimore will win this division. It's a Steelers team that
Speaker 2: the Bengals beat once. By the way, credit Pittsburgh for
Speaker 2: adjusting their defensive game plan, which was in the first
Speaker 2: game they played man defense, Jamar Chase and T Higgins
Speaker 2: shredded it, and then the Steelers adjusted and played zone
Speaker 2: defense yesterday, and it's like the Bengals had no clue
Speaker 2: that you could actually do that. I don't think this
Speaker 2: Steelers team is very good. Aaron Rodgers looks old. I
Speaker 2: think they're limited offensively. Their secondary this year has been terrible.
Speaker 2: They came into yesterday thirty second in a thirty two
Speaker 2: team league in pass defense and the Bengals lose to
Speaker 2: him by twenty two points. This division is shaky this year.
Speaker 2: A couple of years ago it was the best in football.
Speaker 2: Now it's the Bengals can't be competitive in it. And
Speaker 2: you might go, well, yeah, but they don't have Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2: The offense up until yesterday has been fine. This defense
Speaker 2: is historically bad. And the frustrating thing for me is
Speaker 2: back during the summer, you could see it coming. I
Speaker 2: cannot tell you how many times I would hear someone say, look,
Speaker 2: they've just got to be league average. And my response
Speaker 2: to that was in the fourth quarter, when you're down
Speaker 2: by a touchdown and you've got to get.
Speaker 1: The ball back to your offense, or in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2: When you're up by a score and you're trying to
Speaker 2: close out the game, will you be able to And
Speaker 2: on multiple occasions this year, this defense hasn't been able
Speaker 2: to do that, including yesterday.
Speaker 3: All right, Mo.
Speaker 1: Lastly, we have the situation I watched the game with
Speaker 1: Wake Forest. You're wearing UNC colors in which guy's name
Speaker 1: is Jake Dickert, who's the head coach of wake Forest
Speaker 1: beat the legendary Bill Belichick. Handley am I to add
Speaker 1: walks across the field and Bill Belichick blows off the
Speaker 1: head football coach he had his hat off. Is Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick the next coach of the Bengals? No, John Gooden,
Speaker 1: John Gruden? I don't think so. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Who is Brian Kelly? You just
Speaker 1: want to keep going down the road. He's available. He
Speaker 1: is most definitely available. I lost some money.
Speaker 2: I think would be a lot of fun. You know
Speaker 2: who I think would be interesting just from a human perspective.
Speaker 1: Lou Anarumo. They just fired him, ran him back all
Speaker 1: but everybody where do we go, they're giving up. They're
Speaker 1: setting records, twenty seven points in a row. Nine. I
Speaker 1: think it's going to be eleven or twelve games, they're
Speaker 1: going to give up.
Speaker 4: Keep.
Speaker 2: You and I talked the morning after the Super Bowl
Speaker 2: when the Bengals lost to the Rams. So that's February
Speaker 2: twenty twenty in LA. At that point, no, I was.
Speaker 2: I had just flown back from all night for my
Speaker 2: week next to the ice machine, and we had a
Speaker 2: conversation and it was about the Super Bowl game itself
Speaker 2: and what what's next for the Bengals. If I would
Speaker 2: have told you that we would be talking. Let's see,
Speaker 2: that's three and a half years later. The Bengals will
Speaker 2: have been back to the postseason once, and to their credit,
Speaker 2: made the AFC Championship Game the following year.
Speaker 1: And lost the course.
Speaker 2: But we would be sitting here without the Bengals having
Speaker 2: advanced to the Super Bowl again and having spent the
Speaker 2: most recent three years not even making the postseason.
Speaker 1: You would have said, there's no way. You snickerd at
Speaker 1: me when I said it, felt Janny Anderson. After losing
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl in Detroit, everyone said they're going back.
Speaker 1: Never went back, Boomers, I And after losing to Miami
Speaker 1: forty Knights, they're going to go back, I said, the
Speaker 1: nart coming class and I said at that point, yes,
Speaker 1: they're never going back, because I walked out of it.
Speaker 2: I walked out of the stadium, Snigger went back to
Speaker 2: my ice chest Sofi Stadium, and the people that I
Speaker 2: was with were like, you know what, that was just awesome.
Speaker 1: And I said, you know, like, you don't know that, man, like.
Speaker 2: You don't know, you don't know when you're going to
Speaker 2: be back in this position.
Speaker 1: Never.
Speaker 2: But if I would have said that night, that Snicker
Speaker 2: that the next four years would have unfolded the way
Speaker 2: they have, you would have said, there's three consecutive years
Speaker 2: during what's supposed to be Burrow's prime not making the
Speaker 2: postseason worst offense in fifty years in the NFL. It
Speaker 2: is very fair to wonder. It is very fair to wonder,
Speaker 2: for the duration of the decade which Joe Burrow is
Speaker 2: under contract for, are they going to fix this not
Speaker 2: to be relevant or make the seventh seed in the
Speaker 2: AFC to win a championship. The idea is to win
Speaker 2: a championship. They feel so frickin far away from winning
Speaker 2: a championship. It's absurd and it's not supposed to be
Speaker 2: this way. Oh not while you have a legitimate dude
Speaker 2: at QB.
Speaker 1: Jamar Stewart holds out to get more money. Change the language,
Speaker 1: twist and ankle twist a gonad. He's done. He's done
Speaker 1: for the year. Lsu. You have as many sacks this
Speaker 1: year as he does. And he's taking the place at
Speaker 1: Trey Henderson, who didn't fly to Pittsburgh. I'm told he did.
Speaker 1: Not your comments. Trey Hendrickson wanted to be a team captain.
Speaker 1: Cashed out. He wanted to be a team captain, Jamarrow,
Speaker 1: how about Chase spitting on people? Not good? But Hendrickson
Speaker 1: wanted to be a team captain. Team captains with his team,
Speaker 1: he's checked out, lost the locker room. Zach Shula is done, Moe,
Speaker 1: thank you very much? Anything else? Yes, do you have
Speaker 1: any faith? Do you have any in the bear Cats? Bengals?
Speaker 1: Bettercats football?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: Best? Struggling basketball is going to be interesting, Frida interesting, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Wolfe's really good. They're going to get drilled on news
Speaker 1: radio seven hundred. Hi, Billy Cunning in the Great America,
Speaker 1: and welcome again this Monday afternoon. Good to hear from Oeger,
Speaker 1: who is a little bit of hope, very little faith.
Speaker 1: I have neither. So we'll see what happens down the
Speaker 1: road with our beloved Bengals. It's a mom and pop
Speaker 1: operation that's made the family billions and billions and billions
Speaker 1: of dollars, and they operate on a shoe string without
Speaker 1: a general manager and without little scouting going on. And
Speaker 1: as long as you can pick Joe Burrow and Jamar
Speaker 1: Chase before he started spitting, it was a pretty good draft.
Speaker 1: And now you're left with the defense, which is the
Speaker 1: worst maybe in the history of the NFL. Ever about
Speaker 1: nine consecutive games giving up twenty seven or more points,
Speaker 1: and nothing's going to change the next few games. So
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. And nonetheless, I'd rather have the
Speaker 1: Bengals here the no NFL team. If the choice is
Speaker 1: allows the Bengals team or no NFL team, I'll take
Speaker 1: the Bengals every day of the week. It's a mom
Speaker 1: and pop operation. I like to be at some meeting
Speaker 1: when the family gets together, when the syndicate gets together
Speaker 1: and talk about what's going on with Mike Brown and
Speaker 1: Katie and Troy and Elizabeth and the family. Paul H. Brown,
Speaker 1: get them all together. I wonder this afternoon what they're thinking.
Speaker 1: Are they thinking that. How in the world does Duke
Speaker 1: Tobin keep his job. He's been there for twenty five
Speaker 1: years because he's a good friend of Mike Brown. Mike
Speaker 1: Brown is now ninety years old. Is it time to
Speaker 1: pass on to Baton? Yes? But passing on to who?
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Katie, Troy, Paul H. Brown. I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: not a professionally run organization except when it comes to
Speaker 1: making money and winning lawsuits, and they're damn good at that.
Speaker 1: On the other hand, Pittsburgh Steelers are no better shape
Speaker 1: than the Bengals in a sense. They just beat him,
Speaker 1: of course by twenty two points, but nonetheless, Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: doesn't look right in that Pittsburgh helmet didn't look right.
Speaker 1: He's probably done. And the Dallas Cowboys to try like
Speaker 1: crazy to win, win win. After the first several years,
Speaker 1: winning three of those three Super Bowls with Troy Aikman,
Speaker 1: they've done nothing for the past thirty some years except
Speaker 1: lose playoff games, which is what the Bengals do. After
Speaker 1: Marvin Lewis's run here, he won about half his games.
Speaker 1: He was zero and seven in the playoffs, zero and seven.
Speaker 1: At least Zach Schull broke down a little bit in
Speaker 1: this second year here with Joe Burrow. Guess what they
Speaker 1: went to the Super Bowl, should have won, won a
Speaker 1: couple of playoff games next year back to the NFC
Speaker 1: Championship game. That's been three years and that's not on
Speaker 1: the horizon anytime soon. So we'll see what happened. I'd
Speaker 1: rather have a bad Bengals team and a bad Bengals
Speaker 1: organization here that have no team at all every now
Speaker 1: and then I think about that.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 1: Secondly, after one o'clock today, we have Joshua Phillips is
Speaker 1: going to be here. He did an extensive documentary on
Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk coming out on Wednesday of this week, and
Speaker 1: we're going to talk to him about the memories, the
Speaker 1: life and times of Charlie Kirk Turning Point USA. Colorado
Speaker 1: professors are calling Turning Point USA a Nazi organization. They're
Speaker 1: the brown Shirts, they're socialists, their Nazis, they're racist to
Speaker 1: all this smearing that is a complete lie about Charlie Kirk,
Speaker 1: but it's out there. So he did a documentary which
Speaker 1: is available starting on Wednesday, about the real life and
Speaker 1: times at Charlie Kirk. So we'll see what happens with that.
Speaker 1: And thirdly, last night, I'm with You on the air.
Speaker 1: I'm on ten pm to one am every Sunday night
Speaker 1: for the past sixteen years, have about five hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty stations. In mid show last night, the President put
Speaker 1: out a missive on and his truth Social saying that
Speaker 1: the Republicans should release the Epstein files a complete one eighty. Hell,
Speaker 1: it might be a three sixty. I don't know what
Speaker 1: it is. It might be a five p forty. But
Speaker 1: the President, who was resisting it for reasons unclear to me,
Speaker 1: is now saying release everything. We just had a newsperson say, well,
Speaker 1: we can release them without the legislation. Yes, of course.
Speaker 1: The same thing is true about the last four years
Speaker 1: where you had Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, and had the
Speaker 1: Attorney General Mary Garland and James Comy in possession of
Speaker 1: the Epstein files for four years. They sat there with
Speaker 1: the Epstein files more or less on their desk, available
Speaker 1: to the Department of Justice. And what did the Biden,
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris, James Comy, Merrick Garland do with that? Christopher Ray,
Speaker 1: the director FBI, they did nothing, didn't release it at all.
Speaker 1: During the heart and soul of the campaign. When the
Speaker 1: election was in the larch, Kamala was up in several polls.
Speaker 1: In fact, she was up until the last three or
Speaker 1: four weeks. And when she did that stupid interview on
Speaker 1: the View in which she said, I can't think of
Speaker 1: anything I do different the past four years that Joe
Speaker 1: Biden already did. When she did, she was sunk. So
Speaker 1: they had the availability within their grasp the Democratic Party
Speaker 1: the trash to fame and possibly ruin the electability of
Speaker 1: Donald Trump in twenty twenty six, sorry, twenty twenty four
Speaker 1: last year. And guess what they didn't release it. Why? Well,
Speaker 1: little secret is there's nothing in there particularly negative about
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Otherwise it would have been released last night
Speaker 1: when the story broke. I took a screenshot of NBC
Speaker 1: News you might recall earlier in the evening yesterday Sunday
Speaker 1: on Channel five. I'm watching the NBC Nightly News, and
Speaker 1: the anchor had on five or six women who were
Speaker 1: sexually abused and trafficked by Epstein, and they did interviews
Speaker 1: with him and on and on, and I kept waiting
Speaker 1: for the anchor to ask the question, who abused You
Speaker 1: give me the name of these powerful men to whom
Speaker 1: you were trafficked, and no question like that was asked.
Speaker 1: In fact, I've not seen that question being asked by
Speaker 1: any of the numerous interviews the women have done. The
Speaker 1: women are now in their late thirties, forties, and fifties. Allegedly,
Speaker 1: they started in nineteen ninety six with a woman named Farmer.
Speaker 1: When Jeffrey Epstein in nineteen ninety six, what about thirty
Speaker 1: years ago, twenty nine years ago, said she was raped
Speaker 1: by a guy named Jeffrey Epstein in New York City.
Speaker 1: The NYPD did an extensive report on it and said
Speaker 1: they're not going to file criminal charges, don't know. And
Speaker 1: it continued for year after year, decade after decade. Allegedly
Speaker 1: it continued all the way through like twenty eighteen and
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen before he was arrested and then eventually killed himself.
Speaker 1: But he was convicted in twenty eight having a two
Speaker 1: year investigation by the US Attorney's office in Florida and
Speaker 1: also the local prosecutor's office. He got a sweetheart deal
Speaker 1: that was unbelievable, and that this woman her name's Farmer.
Speaker 1: She gave her name et cetera, and the women that
Speaker 1: tomorrow they're going to be on the steps of the Capitol.
Speaker 1: They're going to show up with photos of themselves and
Speaker 1: they were fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen years old. Of course,
Speaker 1: the most noted one is Virginia's Jeuffrey, who killed herself
Speaker 1: in Australia about six months ago. So lineup on one side.
Speaker 1: I want to share with you the comment of NBC
Speaker 1: News last night. He put it on their website and
Speaker 1: verbally expressed it. Quote. The President's name appears frequently in
Speaker 1: the email, but Epstein did not in these files accuse
Speaker 1: Trump of any wrongdoing or illegal activity. Let me repeat that,
Speaker 1: because the truth will set you free. The twenty thousand
Speaker 1: emails which came out of the House Oversight Committee, along
Speaker 1: with the emails from the estate, we're talking maybe as
Speaker 1: many as one hundred thousand emails involving allegedly a thousand women. Quote.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump's name appears frequently in the emails, but Epstein
Speaker 1: did not in these files accuse him of any wrongdoing
Speaker 1: or illegal activities. So Carolyn Levitt on Friday said the following.
Speaker 1: These emails prove absolutely nothing other than the fact that
Speaker 1: President Trump did nothing wrong. And my resolution for that
Speaker 1: issue is NBC News and Roe Conna, the congressman from California,
Speaker 1: has said interesting things that he said on Sunday, the
Speaker 1: Epstein files release could be a win for Trump if
Speaker 1: you gave me a choice that I already have the president
Speaker 1: reverse course, which he did last night. I'd rather release
Speaker 1: all the files. Someone was saying that his number would
Speaker 1: give it up. I don't care if he went was
Speaker 1: politically or not. And so on one side, the majority of
Speaker 1: the American people, because of the media coverage, believe Trump
Speaker 1: is something to hide. The great majority of Democrats believe
Speaker 1: that Trump is a pedophile. That he was. He was
Speaker 1: part of the trafficking ring to teenage girls to rich
Speaker 1: and powerful men all over New York, Lolita Island, Florida,
Speaker 1: et cetera. In reality, the victims of these crimes have
Speaker 1: uniformly said that Donald Trump did not abuse them, and
Speaker 1: they know no circumstance under which Donald Trump abused any
Speaker 1: teenage girls. Does that matter, Well, of course it matters,
Speaker 1: except the media wants to do the drive by defamation
Speaker 1: without digging in the facts on the side of the
Speaker 1: fence that says Donald Trump did not do this or
Speaker 1: all the victims, so far, not one has said she
Speaker 1: was forced coerced her willingly or unwillingly, on drugs or drunk,
Speaker 1: whatever it might be, to have sex with Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: One percent of the victims said no. Do you believe
Speaker 1: the victims? Generally? I do not all the time. Generally
Speaker 1: I do trust, but verify. So if all the victims
Speaker 1: say Trump didn't do it, If Virginia Giuffrey, the main
Speaker 1: victim here, said that Trump didn't do it, in fact,
Speaker 1: she said he was a complete gentleman every time he
Speaker 1: was around me. If Gallaine Maxwell, he's doing twenty years
Speaker 1: in a federal women's prison, said that Trump did not
Speaker 1: participate in those activities with Jeffrey Epstein. Jeffrey Epstein himself
Speaker 1: has said repeatedly, despite being a well known financier of
Speaker 1: democratic causes, Jeffrey Epstein, who killed himself, thank God, said
Speaker 1: Trump didn't do it. You have all the lawyers and
Speaker 1: all the law firms who have filed all the lawsuits
Speaker 1: against him, all the class action lawsuits, of which there's
Speaker 1: been dozens, hundreds of lawyers, hundreds of paralegals, hundreds of
Speaker 1: administrative assistants, not one has come forward to say that
Speaker 1: Donald Trump sexually had sex with any teenage girls. None,
Speaker 1: So if all those individuals say it didn't happen, and
Speaker 1: also add on top of that the idea, and on
Speaker 1: top of that this idea that the Democrats, wanting to
Speaker 1: win the twenty twenty four election badly, would you agree,
Speaker 1: very badly, had all the Epstein files in their possession
Speaker 1: and did not release any of them because what because
Speaker 1: it wasn't in culplatory to Donald Trump, it was exculplatory,
Speaker 1: which means he didn't do it. You'd rather deal, I think,
Speaker 1: with the drive by media defamation than with the reality
Speaker 1: that if you believe the victims, Trump didn't do it.
Speaker 1: If you believe Virginia Giuffrey Trump didn't do it, if
Speaker 1: you believe Julane Maxwell, Trump didn't do it, if you
Speaker 1: believe Jeffrey Epstein, Trump didn't do it. If you believe
Speaker 1: all the lawyers and all the law firms who fought
Speaker 1: all the class action lawsuits, all of them have said
Speaker 1: nothing about Donald Trump's involvement. That the Democratic Party leadership
Speaker 1: for four years, having possession of these files, did not
Speaker 1: release them for obvious reasons. And on top of that,
Speaker 1: all the other witnesses the limousine drivers, those who catered
Speaker 1: the parties. No one's come forward to say Donald Trump
Speaker 1: illicitly had sex with teenage girls on Lolita Island or elsewhere.
Speaker 1: And NBC News says again, Trump's name appears frequently in emails,
Speaker 1: but Epstein did not in these files accuse him Trump
Speaker 1: of any wrongdoing or legal activity. So I can't answer
Speaker 1: this question. Why is Trump resistant releasing the files when
Speaker 1: the Democrats had possession of them for the last four
Speaker 1: years and didn't release them. Well, last night he said, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm letting them go. When they all come out, guess what.
Speaker 1: It won't be accepted by the media or by the
Speaker 1: Democratic Party. They'll come up with something else. You have
Speaker 1: the grand jury testimony, which the federal judges said we're
Speaker 1: not releasing that. You have the Epstein estate emails and
Speaker 1: texts and travel records. Those have all been released. Now
Speaker 1: if the DOJ files are also released, what's left a
Speaker 1: smear and not the truth. If as a woman, you
Speaker 1: believe the victims of Jeffrey Epstein, the victims say Trump's
Speaker 1: involvement is nonexistent, do you believe the victims? I generally
Speaker 1: do do. Sometimes victims lie absolutely. But these victims are
Speaker 1: parts of huge lawsuits worth hundreds of millions of dollars
Speaker 1: in which is a pot of gold ready to hand
Speaker 1: out millions of dollars, a lot of which has already
Speaker 1: been handed out out of the Epstein estate and out
Speaker 1: of New York bankers, New York financiers, and others. A
Speaker 1: lot of these women have been paid millions and millions
Speaker 1: of dollars. And if what they say is true, I
Speaker 1: have no reason no doubt it is. Isn't I believe
Speaker 1: it is true? They're entitled to the money compared to who.
Speaker 1: But I'd like to know the names of the men
Speaker 1: who did this? Would you? Are they billionaires? Are they politicians?
Speaker 1: Are they office holders? Are they Democratic bankers? Are they Republicans?
Speaker 1: Who are they? I look on Wikipedia in the lawsuits
Speaker 1: the names are out there, four or five of them,
Speaker 1: but allegedly there were hundreds and hundreds of these men
Speaker 1: for a thousand girls, maybe a thousand men. Who are they?
Speaker 1: If you're the victim of a crime, the first thing
Speaker 1: you want to do is identify the perpetrator and get
Speaker 1: them locked up. Why haven't the victims come out and
Speaker 1: identified the men who sexually molested them when they were
Speaker 1: teenage girls. Why has that not happened.
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 1: Let's continue line becomes available five one, three, seven, four nine,
Speaker 1: seven thousand, pound seven hundred and after one o'clock today
Speaker 1: will be a documentary film producer Joshua Phillips on the
Speaker 1: life and times of Charlie Kirk and Moore at Showman
Speaker 1: of the Bengals. Keep Hope. All we Have is Hope
Speaker 1: on news Radio seven hundred WW Bill cunning in Great American.
Speaker 1: Of course, one of the apostles I think of the
Speaker 1: twenty first century. I'll call him the Saint Paul the
Speaker 1: twenty first century. It was Charlie Kirk. To me, it's
Speaker 1: amazing how the left needs to vilify him quickly, even
Speaker 1: more than they've done in the past, to make sure
Speaker 1: his message is not heard. I would note there's a
Speaker 1: couple of stories out recently about colleges that have refused
Speaker 1: Turning Point USA chapters, including the riot that took place
Speaker 1: at Berkeley. So the radical left has to demonize Charlie
Speaker 1: Kirk despite his christian like message, because it is feared
Speaker 1: that if many college kids develop a conservative philosophy about
Speaker 1: God and about family and about America, that's so positive
Speaker 1: about our country that they may become, shall we say, conservatives,
Speaker 1: form family structures, worship God, and also salute the American flag,
Speaker 1: which are some of the principles of Charlie Kirk during
Speaker 1: his lifetime. I still can't believe Charlie is murdered as
Speaker 1: of September tenth. It was awful. We'll find out how
Speaker 1: the trial takes place later next year. But there's a
Speaker 1: documentary out Captain Kirk. Captain Kirk, a new documentary set
Speaker 1: for release, How a young leader charted the way forward
Speaker 1: for the next generation of great Americans. Joining you and
Speaker 1: I now is the creator of that documentary. Joshua Phillips
Speaker 1: and Joshua welcome to The Bill Cunningham Show. And first
Speaker 1: of all, well before we get into the history of
Speaker 1: what Charlie Kirk did, starting about twelve or thirteen years ago,
Speaker 1: do you find it amazing that colleges which should be
Speaker 1: arsenals of democracy, colleges that should allow the free flow
Speaker 1: of ideas, especially at Berkeley, where free speech supposedly began
Speaker 1: back about fifty years ago, the colleges are barring Turning
Speaker 1: Point USA chapters from forming Do you find that surprising?
Speaker 5: You know, I should find it surprising. Unfortunately I don't
Speaker 5: because this is the pattern we've seen. I actually just
Speaker 5: spoke at an event in California with Rob Schneider, who is
Speaker 5: you know, one of the main speakers at that event
Speaker 5: in Berkeley to attack they got attacked by Antifa. I
Speaker 5: will ask a question, though, why do college campuses allow
Speaker 5: Antifa to shut down events but they don't allow a
Speaker 5: Christian conservative organization to operate? A good question to.
Speaker 1: Ask, Well, Rob Schauder was at that event, and we've
Speaker 1: had on assistant US attorneysho are going to pursue that
Speaker 1: possibly criminal charge. Let's go back to the beginning. Charlie
Speaker 1: Kirk went to college quite briefly and said him out
Speaker 1: of here. Explain the origins of Charlie Kirk when he
Speaker 1: got out of high school, A brilliant guy. The messages
Speaker 1: you got to go to college, get that sheepskin, you
Speaker 1: gotta do it. He briefly went and left.
Speaker 3: Why maybe the same reason that a lot of the
Speaker 3: big successful names tend to follow the same battern. You know,
Speaker 3: I did the same thing. I went to college for
Speaker 3: a couple of years that you know what, I'm not
Speaker 3: really doing anything with it. I'm gonna do something else,
Speaker 3: and the same way with a lot of people like that.
Speaker 5: I think the unfortunate reality is colleges don't educate people.
Speaker 3: Like they used to. And I mean, I'm not trying to,
Speaker 3: you know, shoot it down people right have degrees or whatever,
Speaker 3: but I do think being self educated will teach you
Speaker 3: things that you're not going to be taught in college
Speaker 3: these days. And I think what is being recognized is
Speaker 3: that a lot of kids are being sold a bad deal.
Speaker 3: They go to college, they get their degree, they graduate,
Speaker 3: and they find that they can't do a lot with
Speaker 3: it because they've been miseducated, or they've just been taught activism.
Speaker 3: They've been taught how to go in protest, but not
Speaker 3: how to go and find a job.
Speaker 1: So really they're in doctrinated, not educated. And one stack
Speaker 1: came out from the Gallup Pole a few days ago
Speaker 1: that forty percent of young women want to leave America
Speaker 1: forty percent, and so the promises and most of these
Speaker 1: women are highly educated. When I see protests today, Joshua Phillips,
Speaker 1: I see often bright, a young educated white females that
Speaker 1: are angry at everything and they want to leave the country.
Speaker 1: That's an example of bad education, correct.
Speaker 3: Fully agreed. And it's unfortunate too.
Speaker 5: I mean, imagine you have, you know, you raise a daughter,
Speaker 5: bring her up right, she goes to college, you know,
Speaker 5: you pay what fifty thousand a year or whatever it is.
Speaker 5: They come out of it, they can't find a job.
Speaker 3: They hate the country, and they think that totalitarian communism
Speaker 3: or socialism is the answered all their problems. They want
Speaker 3: to bring a system into place that has killed with
Speaker 3: you know what, one hundred million to one hundred sixty
Speaker 3: million people. And I think that's good, But they think
Speaker 3: America is evil. I think that is a result of
Speaker 3: an absolutely failed education, total misrepresentation of history.
Speaker 1: Joshua Phllip. Why did Turning Point USA succeed so greatly?
Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you later, what's the future? When
Speaker 1: when the leader dies, often the movement dies. But what
Speaker 1: made Turning Point USA successful during the living years of
Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk?
Speaker 3: You know, I think what made Turning Points so successful
Speaker 3: is that Charlie Kirk went to the college campuses and
Speaker 3: basically called him out. He was the guy saying, hey,
Speaker 3: the Emperor has no clothes. And then when he said that,
Speaker 3: everybody said, you know, what. I saw that too, and
Speaker 3: I didn't want to say it. He was going to
Speaker 3: college campuses, getting on the microphone and saying, Hey, whoever
Speaker 3: disagrees with me, most grab the microphone, let's have a conversation.
Speaker 3: Bring your professors out. I will debate your professors in
Speaker 3: front of you. And he was making absolute fools out
Speaker 3: of them because he was exposing it.
Speaker 1: That's why it succeeded, and it grew from a little
Speaker 1: colonel into a huge mountain of ideas. When this happened,
Speaker 1: when Charlie was murdered, because of what he was saying,
Speaker 1: almost immediately the memes on YouTube, there were hundreds of thousands,
Speaker 1: generally young, educated, white females, mocking the murder of a
Speaker 1: father and a husband in an odd way. Did that
Speaker 1: help turning point movement go forward? Or because didn't it
Speaker 1: expose who they are?
Speaker 3: I think it exposed the radicals and I think it
Speaker 3: exposed Let's put it this way, a lot of the
Speaker 3: people who promote socialism do it under the guise of
Speaker 3: moral good. They say, I'm a good person, you're an
Speaker 3: evil person. I'm the one who's right by history, and
Speaker 3: you're you know, you're the one, you know basically doing
Speaker 3: the wrong thing as soon as they come out and
Speaker 3: they support the murder of a man in front of
Speaker 3: his children, you know, being shot of a neck, well,
Speaker 3: trying to have an open debate, someone whose only crime
Speaker 3: was to engage in discussion. And they're saying, I hate
Speaker 3: freedom of speech so much that if someone disagrees with me,
Speaker 3: I want to see them murdered in front of their
Speaker 3: in front of their children. For somebody to be like
Speaker 3: that shows that they lose the moral high ground. And
Speaker 3: when people recognize, oh, you don't. These people don't believe
Speaker 3: in kindness. These people don't believe in honesty, These people
Speaker 3: don't believe in debate, the mask falls off and you
Speaker 3: see them for what they are, and a lot of
Speaker 3: people say, you know what you know? Rather than retreating
Speaker 3: into the shadows, what happened was a lot of college
Speaker 3: could say, I'm going to go be just like Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 3: I am Charlie Kirk, and I'm going to do exactly
Speaker 3: what he did.
Speaker 1: What surprised you most in this documentary about it's called
Speaker 1: Captain Kirk? What surprised you about the internal dynamics and
Speaker 1: growth of Turning Point USA?
Speaker 3: Right, So, it's called I think Captain Kirk was the
Speaker 3: marketing things, but it's called that truth under five, the
Speaker 3: framing of Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 5: But what surprised me the most actually was actually what
Speaker 5: I really dug into was how Charlie Kirk was framed.
Speaker 5: I wanted to do two things with his documentary. One
Speaker 5: is set right the legacy of Charlie Kirk, and two
Speaker 5: is to expose.
Speaker 3: What led to his death. You know, how is he
Speaker 3: How there's a hit piece machine that tries to ruin
Speaker 3: people's reputations, destroy their organizations, destroy their finances, make them
Speaker 3: too afraid to speak out, and ultimately lead to threats
Speaker 3: of violence which can result in actual violence, which is
Speaker 3: exactly what happened to Charlie Kirk. But also just because
Speaker 3: I think his legacy is being undermined right now, I
Speaker 3: wanted to do something that explains what did he actually
Speaker 3: stand for. Who was Charlie Kirk, what values did he espouse,
Speaker 3: and what effect most importantly, what effect did he have
Speaker 3: on young people?
Speaker 1: Well, I would ask you the question, what values did
Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk espouse? What was his belief system? Did it
Speaker 1: evolve over the twelve years of his public life. What
Speaker 1: do you say about that?
Speaker 5: You know, my conclusion is this, I don't think we.
Speaker 3: Can replace someone like Charlie Kirk. He was a rare
Speaker 3: individual because he had the ability to bring people together
Speaker 3: across differences. I think for the conservative movement in particular,
Speaker 3: he was a uniting force. He brought together. I mean, honestly,
Speaker 3: you look at the Civil War among conservatives right now.
Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk had his pastor speaking, He had you know,
Speaker 3: Candice Owen speaking at events previously. He had Tucker Carlton
Speaker 3: speaking at the recent ones. He brought together conservatives who
Speaker 3: don't agree with each other, and that is challenging to do.
Speaker 3: He brought together religious denominations that are very different from
Speaker 3: each other. He brought them all together under a single
Speaker 3: roof and said, you know what, put those aside. We
Speaker 3: know we have a country to say. It's basically, we
Speaker 3: have something we need to stand for that is broader
Speaker 3: than our differences. And I think what he focused on
Speaker 3: instead was the issues. He focused on, this is what
Speaker 3: our kids are being taught, this is this is this
Speaker 3: is the problem in our country that if we don't
Speaker 3: resolve it, we're going to lose our country. He focused
Speaker 3: on those types of things, not all the not all
Speaker 3: the petty squabbling. And I think the effect of Charlie
Speaker 3: Kirk was visible when I when I went to colleges
Speaker 3: and I talked to young kids and I said, why
Speaker 3: are you here? What are you doing? And I talked
Speaker 3: to some of the people a turning point chapters. Despite
Speaker 3: the disagreements we're now seeing at the surface, the legacy
Speaker 3: of Charlie Kirk does live on in the youth.
Speaker 5: And a lot of them were deeply inspired to you know,
Speaker 5: find their faith, uh to become more religious, to to
Speaker 5: not be afraid of speaking out, to talk about their values,
Speaker 5: to not be silenced. I think his legacy will live
Speaker 5: on in the youth.
Speaker 1: Yes. How how critical was Charlie Kirk in that movement
Speaker 1: to the reelection of Donald Trump in twenty two twenty four, Well.
Speaker 3: I think he was honestly so successful that a lot
Speaker 3: of the media establishment.
Speaker 1: Wanted to do.
Speaker 3: I think without Charlie Kirk, Trump would not have won
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty four election. And I think that was recognized.
Speaker 3: And so what had happened was this Charlie Kirk basically
Speaker 3: got Charlie Kirk woke up the youth in America, the
Speaker 3: college campuses have been kind of a hotbed of socialism,
Speaker 3: going back to the hippie movement. You know, it used
Speaker 3: to be that younger people tend to vote very far left.
Speaker 3: When they get a bit older and start paying taxes,
Speaker 3: they realized those policies don't work so well, and you know,
Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk was really working to change that. A lot
Speaker 3: of young people were starting to realize, you know what,
Speaker 3: the enemy I've been taught is not the real is
Speaker 3: not the real enemy, and you know, some of the
Speaker 3: stuff I'm being taught in school is not the truth.
Speaker 3: They really they realized they were being basically miseducated, said
Speaker 3: false history and said a lot of false arguments. Charlie
Speaker 3: Kirk was going there exposing it, and a lot of
Speaker 3: kids were saying, you know what, this is what's really
Speaker 3: going on, and they started really astounsing that. What I
Speaker 3: also saw was that after twenty twenty four election, a
Speaker 3: lot of the media started doing hit pieces on Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 3: New York Times made it like a personal vendebted to
Speaker 3: destroy Charlie Kirk. A lot of the media establishment was
Speaker 3: pulling all kinds of narratives based on just false information,
Speaker 3: you know, misrepresentation, half quotes and so on, trying to
Speaker 3: frame him as racist and bigoted and all these things
Speaker 3: because I think politically they recognized they had to destroy him,
Speaker 3: to destroy what he represented.
Speaker 1: Have they done that in the last three or four months.
Speaker 1: Is Charlie Kirk bigger today than he was when he
Speaker 1: was murdered on September the tenth? Is the movement growing?
Speaker 1: Is the movement the same? Is it going to fail?
Speaker 1: Is it a false high? Is it whipped cream and
Speaker 1: not real? If I would have you on josh A
Speaker 1: Fillip in about a year from now, what will you
Speaker 1: say a year from now about the movement?
Speaker 3: I would say the movement?
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 3: So after tell Kirk died, he had his memorial in Arizona.
Speaker 3: It was incredible. I mean, anybody who was there knows this.
Speaker 3: They had two stadiums full. Even aside from two completely
Speaker 3: filled stadiums, you had overflow space people they had to
Speaker 3: turn away, like hundreds of thousands. I remember walking into
Speaker 3: the press area and it's kind of in the middle
Speaker 3: of the stadium and you just saw something take place
Speaker 3: that day that I've never seen. I mean a lot
Speaker 3: of people said he was a manitor. A lot of
Speaker 3: people said that, you know, maybe in his death he
Speaker 3: was even more powerful than he was in his life
Speaker 3: because of what he inspired and all the people who
Speaker 3: were there. I think that his legacy is now being
Speaker 3: dragged through the mud because there's a lot of people
Speaker 3: not trying to turn into other debates. They're fighting against him,
Speaker 3: They're fighting against Turning Point. People are tearing each other's throats.
Speaker 3: I think we'll have to see what happens with Charlie
Speaker 3: Kirk's legacy because what I saw that day and what
Speaker 3: also happened as people are trying to start up additional
Speaker 3: Turning Point chapters. I mean tenfold increase in requests for him.
Speaker 3: That was an incredible movement. But infighting, people spreading rumors,
Speaker 3: these kinds of things. I think that does risk tearing
Speaker 3: it all down and nothing will be achieved that that happens.
Speaker 1: Headline out of Colorado quote Colorado professor emeritus calls Turning
Speaker 1: Point USA supporters Nazis flips off camera after a chapter
Speaker 1: is approved on the campus. Professor's name is David Kozak.
Speaker 1: Ko Zak Kozak, former professor of anthropology at Fort Lewis College,
Speaker 1: was caught on camera calling students their Nazis and flipping
Speaker 1: them off, and after the chapter was approved, I've seen
Speaker 1: many examples where students overturning tables, defacing Minu mentioned Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 1: Fort Lewis College in Colorado said that mister Kozakt is
Speaker 1: no longer employed by the institution. I guess that's a positive.
Speaker 1: But can you answer quickly the charge of the radical
Speaker 1: left to smear Charlie Kirk that he was a racist
Speaker 1: and a Nazi. You hear that constantly. What's your response
Speaker 1: to that.
Speaker 3: It's a false narrative that has been formed over the
Speaker 3: course of close to a decade, going back to twenty seventeen. Actually,
Speaker 3: my documentary focuses on exposing how those false narratives were
Speaker 3: formed and developed.
Speaker 1: And it's ongoing. The documentary is truth under Fire and
Speaker 1: you had great success I see with the COVID nineteen
Speaker 1: documentary in twenty twenty some seventy five million views. And
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. His legacy now is up to
Speaker 1: us to decide. I seldom see positive stories in the
Speaker 1: mainstream media about Charlie Kirker Erica Kirk, and when they
Speaker 1: had that big memorial service, etc. It was on CNN,
Speaker 1: non on MSNBC, and now here we are a few
Speaker 1: months later, and guess what Nazis and brown shirts and
Speaker 1: racists or filling the air whenever turning point USA. Nothing
Speaker 1: can be further from the truth. The three the three
Speaker 1: principles of Charlie Kirk were God, family, and America. And
Speaker 1: you don't hear much of that on college campuses. Well,
Speaker 1: God family in America. And what is the website to
Speaker 1: where I can direct people towards this for this documentary?
Speaker 3: They can go to EPICTV dot com, e p o
Speaker 3: h TV dot.
Speaker 1: Com, epictv dot com. And once again, Joshua Phillips, you're
Speaker 1: a great American. Thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 1: And I'll put you back on in four or five
Speaker 1: months to see the effect of this. How many views
Speaker 1: there have been? What kind of reaction hasn't been. He's
Speaker 1: being vilified and crucified and blasphemed all over college campuses.
Speaker 1: Nothing can be further from the truth. It was all
Speaker 1: about God, family in America. Nothing wrong with those principles.
Speaker 1: Once again, Joshua, thanks for coming on the Bill cunning
Speaker 1: I'm show and Joshua, You're a great American. Give my
Speaker 1: best to all the people, epic and etcetera. And keep
Speaker 1: doing what you're doing. Thank you, Joshua, appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: God bless you all. Let's continue with more news coming
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Speaker 1: W Elder Oh, hello bye, I'm broadcasting getting ready for
Speaker 1: the draft early this year.
Speaker 6: It's already the lookout with the I think they they
Speaker 6: they finished today that they would pick ninth.
Speaker 1: Here we go Nicholas High School, Yes, with home of
Speaker 1: the Rockets and Jerry durger are and also Brian Combs.
Speaker 1: Brian Combs is a bowling coach. You ever hear of
Speaker 1: Brian Combs. Yes, he's a tennis coach. He tells me
Speaker 1: he's big there, but I don't think so. And you
Speaker 1: think Brian Combs is pretty big?
Speaker 4: I do.
Speaker 1: Darlene is there, Sega explain the Rockets have a rived
Speaker 1: big time, Willie. These are the mc nicholas Rockets.
Speaker 6: They were Division four state champions and volleyball this year,
Speaker 6: knocking off Delaware Buckeye Valley in three sets.
Speaker 1: No good. They won in seventy two minutes. Seventy two minutes.
Speaker 1: That's longer than they got to how they want to
Speaker 1: get to Wright State? Now, Darling, explain what happened. Give
Speaker 1: me the last match you're up against it. You were losing.
Speaker 1: Four your players had any problems, two other had cluster
Speaker 1: migrant heading, they couldn't play. All of a sudden you
Speaker 1: arose like a mighty tsunami. Explain what happened in a
Speaker 1: big master to win the state title, Darlene.
Speaker 7: I think these girls have been preparing for this moment
Speaker 7: all season, and I think it's hurt.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 7: Actually, we were mostly all healthy, and I think that
Speaker 7: you know, they all came together as a team and
Speaker 7: just took care business.
Speaker 1: Undefeated, untied, unscored on state titled. This is the second
Speaker 1: or third.
Speaker 7: First state title for the women's volleyball.
Speaker 1: And my good friend father Anthony Brownce next door at
Speaker 1: the seminary, keeps an eye on mcnick and all that
Speaker 1: kount of stuff. Introduce these girls, coach, tell me a
Speaker 1: little bit about each of one of them.
Speaker 7: Okay, So I have my seniors Lauren Radkey, Ali Renti
Speaker 7: and uh Sarah Hutchinson.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they are. They were great leaders for us
Speaker 1: this year.
Speaker 7: And then we have eleven juniors here if you want
Speaker 7: me to name them all on. Ali Strange is our levera.
Speaker 7: Savannah Stacey is our outside hitter, sixth rotation. Tessa Calcitre
Speaker 7: is a DS slash hitter. We also have Ellie Roth
Speaker 7: who is also a setter, Josie Mayfield who's a middle hitter,
Speaker 7: Lily Tierney who's a middle hitter, Penn hitters, Grace Tyranny,
Speaker 7: Annabel Comer, Kennedy Haukey, and Kara Radkey.
Speaker 1: Now, who beat you this year? There's one or two
Speaker 1: schools that beat the crap out of the Rockets. Who
Speaker 1: were they?
Speaker 7: Well, I wouldn't say beat the crap, but Fwick Fenwick
Speaker 7: beat us in four early in the season, and Saint
Speaker 7: Ursula took a match from us on the top.
Speaker 1: But you went back and then beat them about the
Speaker 1: face head. Yeah, took care of it. Seg Man, Give
Speaker 1: Darling and the team some sports and I we're going
Speaker 1: back to the team to ask a few academic questions.
Speaker 1: Willy the Stootu Report.
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Speaker 6: seventy seven sixty five. But those Bengals fall thirty four
Speaker 6: to twelve yesterday Willie to go the three and seven girls.
Speaker 1: Did you watch the game yesterday?
Speaker 4: Sure? Yeah?
Speaker 1: How was it not fun? I was ugly?
Speaker 6: Please continue segment after starting two and oh, the Bengals
Speaker 6: are one and seven at their last eight.
Speaker 1: Not good.
Speaker 6: They have given up twenty seven plus points and nine
Speaker 6: consecutive games. That's a new National Football League record. At
Speaker 6: least there's setin record.
Speaker 1: Segment.
Speaker 6: Well, that's true, and let's see what else good news?
Speaker 6: There's really nothing from nothing? Well down there, that's enough, Darlene.
Speaker 6: How does the team look for next year? Many are
Speaker 6: afraid to play McNicholas.
Speaker 1: I know. I spoke to the girls volleyball coach at
Speaker 1: Deer Park High School. They like to maybe schedule me
Speaker 1: Nick next year. Could you measure up to Deer Park?
Speaker 1: I think we could, then you could. How does it
Speaker 1: look for next year's team? With all these seniors, so,
Speaker 1: with all these titles graduating, they live quite a legacy
Speaker 1: behind where the juniors and sophomores arise like a mighty
Speaker 1: tsunami in the middle of the Pacific Ocean wash across
Speaker 1: the land, picking up the dead bodies of their opponents.
Speaker 1: Or are the mc nicholas done after this?
Speaker 2: What is it?
Speaker 1: I hope that this can happen.
Speaker 7: Yes, So we have eleven juniors coming back, so I think,
Speaker 7: I think we'll miss our seniors, but I.
Speaker 1: Think they're tall. Yeah, they noticed it. Yeah I have Yeah. Now,
Speaker 1: I got a few questions to ask girls. You every
Speaker 1: now and then. I like to test whether or not
Speaker 1: the high schools would come in here as state champions
Speaker 1: can be champions in life, not just in sports. So
Speaker 1: I have five questions from the US citizenship test. To
Speaker 1: become a citizen, you have to answer some of these questions.
Speaker 1: Can you name the three branches of the US federal
Speaker 1: government and segment you be quiet? Go ahead? What are
Speaker 1: the three branches? Judicial, executive, and legislative? Excuse me, you're going? Now,
Speaker 1: everybody went to Civics class. I think no, you didn't go,
Speaker 1: did you? No? Now, the First Amendment guarantees five individual freedoms.
Speaker 1: The First Amendment deals with five. Can you name four
Speaker 1: of the five? Speech assembly? Excuse me? Now, there are
Speaker 1: three kind of rocks and Jim Jim morphoik foundations. Can
Speaker 1: you name the three types of rocks in geology metamorphicy?
Speaker 1: You better come up with some new ones. Well, now,
Speaker 1: who did America fight in the War of eighteen twelve? Ready?
Speaker 1: That's correct? Who said know that the crutches? All right?
Speaker 1: Who did America fight in the Second World War? Who
Speaker 1: were the who were the Allies? And who were the
Speaker 1: Axis powers? Give me the Allies first of all, and
Speaker 1: an American Britain? But who do we fight in World
Speaker 1: War two? Against journey? Damn? That's really good. What does
Speaker 1: the Second Amendment guarantee? Don't look at me? You come
Speaker 1: up with a better questions? This is from the US
Speaker 1: citizenship test. Also far they've they've made it. What is
Speaker 1: the square ruto? What is the value of pie? Not lemonade,
Speaker 1: not chocolate, apple? Apple? What is the value of pie?
Speaker 1: Can you name three sacraments? Baptism, confirmation, and.
Speaker 4: All? Right?
Speaker 1: Name five organs in a human body?
Speaker 7: Skin, skin, ankreas?
Speaker 1: One more? One more? Are these girls in advanced classes
Speaker 1: or what are they? They're pretty smart. They're pretty smart.
Speaker 1: Who wants to go to college?
Speaker 5: All?
Speaker 1: Are you seniors? Who's are you're a senior. Are you
Speaker 1: to college? I'm not sure yet. I'm applied a couple
Speaker 1: of different places, like boy, you probably save your Notre
Speaker 1: Dame Tennessee, Ohio State. Those a couple of my top
Speaker 1: ones right now. Next up, well, I'm reverbally committed to
Speaker 1: MIT volleyball. I won't know for sure until I hear
Speaker 1: back MSU being Michigan State. Am I excuse me? Okay,
Speaker 1: so coach? What is special about this team compared to
Speaker 1: other teams was that the unity was the hard work,
Speaker 1: the perseverance, and fear of God, the love of country.
Speaker 1: What was it about this team that set them apart
Speaker 1: from all the other girls volleyball teams in the state
Speaker 1: of Ohio.
Speaker 7: I think that they uh the camaraderie that they have together.
Speaker 7: They just really gel on and off the team, and
Speaker 7: they do they work hard. I you know, I don't
Speaker 7: think I even had to push them too much. They
Speaker 7: were very self motivated and they had this goal of
Speaker 7: coming back to state from two years ago when we
Speaker 7: were runner up, runner up, yep, two years ago. Yeah
Speaker 7: we weren't here two years I was, yeah, good.
Speaker 1: What is a jug at Sane next high school? That's it?
Speaker 1: Any of these girls get detentions and things like that.
Speaker 1: Stand in the corner. Oh, I'm sure never never any
Speaker 1: girls ever get no, no, never have. They're too smart.
Speaker 1: They're too smart for this. Does anyone to have a
Speaker 1: grade below A? A? Is anyone? Four point every four
Speaker 1: point zero? Yeah, you give me hope for the future.
Speaker 1: Congratulations girls, Next year you'll be back, Is that correct, darling, Yes,
Speaker 1: you'll do that. Gonna win consecutive state titles again. And
Speaker 1: the boys won in May, is that correct?
Speaker 7: Ay? And the year before too, so they were back
Speaker 7: to back. So we're hoping to replicate that.
Speaker 1: Now. Nil money is coming to high school sports. You're
Speaker 1: aware of that. I did hear that? Yes, so these
Speaker 1: girls are probably going to hold out to get ten
Speaker 1: thousand dollars each to play next year. Name, image and lightness.
Speaker 1: You can be marketed to other volleyball girls will make
Speaker 1: a fortune. Are you in? I think the seniors. Seniors
Speaker 1: just said they're staying. They're staying. Whose pictures on a
Speaker 1: one dollar bill? How about a five dollar bill? How
Speaker 1: about a ten dollar bill? How about one hundred dollar bill.
Speaker 1: You're not going to get them. Just take your medicine.
Speaker 1: And he's the current n C double A football champion.
Speaker 1: As I stand here now in uh February of this year.
Speaker 1: Who won the n C double A men's football championship?
Speaker 1: Who won the men's basketball championship? Smarty pants? Who won?
Speaker 1: That's it border, That's who won the men's college baseball championship?
Speaker 1: Oh l s U, I got him right? College baseball Championship. Girls,
Speaker 1: you've won the game of volleyball, and I'll go win
Speaker 1: the game of life. Three rules? Ready for my three
Speaker 1: rules of life? Graduate? Can you do that? Number two?
Speaker 1: Work or go to school? Can you do that? And
Speaker 1: number three? Don't commit a crime? Can you do that?
Speaker 1: Do you need a government program? Need somebody tell you
Speaker 1: got to graduate? Anyone has to tell you. You can't ride
Speaker 1: a red bike, you can't have a you can't have
Speaker 1: a lunch ticket, you can't do these other things. In
Speaker 1: other words, you graduate, work or go to school, and
Speaker 1: then don't commit a crime. Do you promise? Yeah, segment darling,
Speaker 1: I'm impressed. Say get me out of the student's report. Please?
Speaker 1: Will you?
Speaker 6: In honor of the mc nick rockis the Division four
Speaker 6: state champions and volleyball their first state title, and many more.
Speaker 6: We'll see you all their next year. We leave you
Speaker 6: with the immortal words of the Stood Report.
Speaker 5: Always good be with you, Bill, see you later.
Speaker 1: Lady brought that up. Who's the governor of the state
Speaker 1: of Ohio? Who's the Vice President of the United States
Speaker 1: of America? Seven hundred WLW Bill cunning in The Great
Speaker 1: American picking up the pieces of what happened yesterday and more.
Speaker 1: Great column by Jason Williams and the inquire also our
Speaker 1: own talk about nineteen nineties being revisited and joining you
Speaker 1: nine now is the great Jason Williams and Jason. First
Speaker 1: of all, let's talk about your poor wife. She doesn't
Speaker 1: understand the suffering, didn't understand what happened after Paul Brown died,
Speaker 1: went through like fourteen consecutive years of losing seasons with
Speaker 1: the great general manager Mike Brown, brilliant strategist. Those were
Speaker 1: the Shaken Bake years. And at this point it looks
Speaker 1: like we're revisiting him kind of relate to the American people.
Speaker 1: Conversations you had with your lovely wife about the future
Speaker 1: of the Bengals.
Speaker 4: I wasn't in Pittsburgh and sometimes h when they're on
Speaker 4: the road, I'm I just I watch I hunk her
Speaker 4: down in my bunker in my house and watch it
Speaker 4: and study it and had my laptop up and my TV.
Speaker 4: And then uh so then my wife after the game
Speaker 4: comes into the room and just says, I and I'm
Speaker 4: paraphrasing whatever the quote I had in there was like
Speaker 4: what she said, but it was along the lines of,
Speaker 4: uh now, I know you know what it's like. And
Speaker 4: I'm like, what do you what are you talking about?
Speaker 4: And she's like all those older Bengals fans, like, you know,
Speaker 4: what they what they've dealt with, and what what why
Speaker 4: they feel the way they feel all these years, like
Speaker 4: the anger and the frustration and just the disappointment. And
Speaker 4: and then you know, she's like, I didn't be you know,
Speaker 4: I wasn't really into football until you know, Joe Burrow
Speaker 4: and they went to the Super Bowl and she just
Speaker 4: goes on about this whole like and and it just
Speaker 4: hit me in that moment. I'm like, it wasn't I
Speaker 4: was like, I didn't expect anything because she you know,
Speaker 4: usually she watches the games and doesn't really say anything.
Speaker 4: And then it just hit me. I was like, Oh,
Speaker 4: this is what this is probably what it felt like
Speaker 4: for those that new generation of fans in the eighties
Speaker 4: or late eighties when they went to the Super Bowl
Speaker 4: and the Gate and then you're thinking, like, Okay, uh,
Speaker 4: they're you know Boomerosiacin and that whole era Chris, We're
Speaker 4: gonna Christals where they're going to keep on building it.
Speaker 4: And uh, you know what three years later, four years
Speaker 4: later in nineteen ninety one, Uh, they they have a
Speaker 4: terrible season and that begins a run of fourteen consecutive
Speaker 4: non winning seat I'd to say non winning because there
Speaker 4: were a few eight and eight seasons in there, right,
Speaker 4: and I just kind of like and then you start
Speaker 4: to really dig into this, Willie, and then you think,
Speaker 4: oh gosh, this is this is this has potential to
Speaker 4: go into some dark period for this franchise. And then
Speaker 4: I don't think I'm not I'm definitely not saying this
Speaker 4: has the shot of you know, being like a night
Speaker 4: eighteen nineties and fourteen, you know, but went into the
Speaker 4: twenty the fourteenth straight non winning seasons. But when you
Speaker 4: look around, I mean, this defense is not an overnight fix.
Speaker 4: It's not a it's not a one off season fix.
Speaker 4: It is there are lots of problems there. Yeah, and yeah,
Speaker 4: you you just sit here, and I know we've talked
Speaker 4: about this a lot, but you just sit here and
Speaker 4: you shake your head and you're like, they are going
Speaker 4: to waste the Joe Burrow years, as he says, he
Speaker 4: you know, he turns thirty next year, he turns twenty
Speaker 4: nine here in what a few weeks, Yeah, in December.
Speaker 1: It's old and it is over.
Speaker 4: It's a dang shame. It is a dang shame.
Speaker 1: Yeah, from the moment that kid that went you win
Speaker 1: it all, you got the national title. You're in a
Speaker 1: locker room, you're smoking a cigar. The swagger of Joe Burrow.
Speaker 1: He's become bengalsild guy. He wants to play for the Bengals.
Speaker 1: And I didn't try to get out, didn't pull a
Speaker 1: John Lway say I'm not playing for that team. They
Speaker 1: stink r He came to the Bengals. I think it
Speaker 1: won four games with Zach Schuller the first year. You
Speaker 1: come in. All of a sudden, within a couple of years,
Speaker 1: you're in the Super Bowl, and it's unbelievable, the excitement
Speaker 1: in this town and you relate. Your wife had said,
Speaker 1: I never was in the Bengals in the football until
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow and the Super Bowl team quote. All the
Speaker 1: newer Bengal fans and now going through with the older
Speaker 1: Bengal fans have talked about and dealt with for years,
Speaker 1: the disappointment, the frustration, the anger. Seventeen chapters in this book,
Speaker 1: and almost every game is a new chapter of ineptitude.
Speaker 1: And now we have Spitgate.
Speaker 8: Explain Spitgate, Well, you know Jalen Ramsey, the defensive backs
Speaker 8: who were of Pittsburgh and Jamar Chase get into it
Speaker 8: on the field and.
Speaker 4: You know they what they throw flag and he said,
Speaker 4: you know, he spit on Jalen Ramsey. And then in
Speaker 4: the locker room.
Speaker 1: Afterwards he lied to the me.
Speaker 4: Marquise said, no, I didn't spit on the guy. And
Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, all these videos start surfacing
Speaker 4: and which clearly, it clearly shows that something came out
Speaker 4: of his mouth toward Jalen Ramsey. And so now you're
Speaker 4: looking you've got to be looking at uh, you know,
Speaker 4: and that adds to it. Now, if that's the one off,
Speaker 4: and you know, they watched a tough, close game and
Speaker 4: they played well, you know, if they played the way
Speaker 4: they played against Pittsburgh, a month ago or something like that,
Speaker 4: like him. But see something like that is now exacerbated
Speaker 4: because of how poorly they played, because of now they're
Speaker 4: three and seven, because of how big of a mess
Speaker 4: the defense is, because of the whole Joe Burrow Is
Speaker 4: he coming back?
Speaker 5: Is he not?
Speaker 4: Do you throw all these Bengal Bengal bengled them things
Speaker 4: on it? And that that just makes the whole thing worse.
Speaker 4: And now he's he's a guy would think he's got
Speaker 4: to be facing a suspension and a hefty fine for that.
Speaker 4: And then I also wonder, you know, does it is
Speaker 4: it even worse for him because you know, he said
Speaker 4: one thing to the media and the video shows a
Speaker 4: completely different thing. So I wonder what the NFL is
Speaker 4: going to take into account and his comments and whether
Speaker 4: you know that he didn't own it. So it's all
Speaker 4: it's all a big mess. It's frustrating. I think extra
Speaker 4: frustrating too, because this is the guy who's really emerged
Speaker 4: as obviously he's a great player, but he's he's also
Speaker 4: a guy who's emerged as a as a strong voice
Speaker 4: in the locker room. So what about all those younger
Speaker 4: players that they're trying to get to come around on
Speaker 4: that defensive side. What do they think? And when they see,
Speaker 4: you know, one of the stars of the show doing that,
Speaker 4: it's bad. It's spiraling downward. And I see no. I
Speaker 4: certainly this season's over and but I see no real
Speaker 4: turnaround point yet And where is this thing going to turn?
Speaker 4: And that's why I you know again, I don't want
Speaker 4: to play dooms Day here. Start of this is the
Speaker 4: start of you know, ten years, a lost decade or
Speaker 4: anything like that. But wow, there are some this looks
Speaker 4: this is this looks pretty bad for the foreseeable future.
Speaker 1: You say, you feel like Bengals fans are owed some
Speaker 1: sort of explanation. You win, Zach Taylor also known as
Speaker 1: Zach Schule, I had that myself. Roster architect Duke Tobin fired.
Speaker 1: You want the Bengals to hire a real general manager
Speaker 1: of fully staff scouting if but you want wholesale changes,
Speaker 1: none of which are going to happen. The major a
Speaker 1: draft pick this year has been Shamar Stewart, who, according
Speaker 1: to Tony Pike, that Jamar Chase has more tackles than
Speaker 1: Shamar Stewart. A wide receiver has more tackles than a
Speaker 1: defensive end who didn't want to sign with the Bengals
Speaker 1: till their language was right and he twicted his ankle.
Speaker 1: Now he's got a knee. He's not going to play
Speaker 1: another another loss, force round, first round draft choice getting
Speaker 1: like eighteen million dollars. He's completely worthless. On the field,
Speaker 1: he was terrible. He wasn't very good at Texas A
Speaker 1: and M. He averaged one point five sack a season.
Speaker 1: But I guess Duke Tobin saw something in him that said,
Speaker 1: that's the guy to take the place A Trey Henderson,
Speaker 1: who's a team captain, didn't travel to the game. What
Speaker 1: is that? Has Zach Shuler lost the locker room?
Speaker 4: I wrote last week that he hadn't, and I talked
Speaker 4: to some guys and I don't think that he has.
Speaker 4: I think the culture piece of the locker room is, uh,
Speaker 4: you know, that's where that's Zach's strength. And I don't
Speaker 4: think that he has lost the locker room. You know,
Speaker 4: now now you can sit here and say a guy's
Speaker 4: spitting on a player, and uh, you know, they come
Speaker 4: out looking completely ill prepared. I really don't think he's
Speaker 4: lost the locker room. I think that it is a
Speaker 4: locker room that is that is. I don't think he's
Speaker 4: lost the locker room, but I think it's a bunch
Speaker 4: of guys who are lost in terms of how to
Speaker 4: how to play football and how to win. You don't
Speaker 4: have Joe Burrow, you are. It is an extreme divide.
Speaker 4: And and this is on the front office that you've
Speaker 4: set this team up to where you've got a super
Speaker 4: Bowl offense for them, obviously when Joe Burrow is playing,
Speaker 4: and you've got I mean, I'm not kidding, Willie, You've
Speaker 4: got a defense full of guys who would be second
Speaker 4: and third string at best on most NFL defenses. Now,
Speaker 4: there are a few bright spots. DJ Turner is a
Speaker 4: good player, obviously, Trey Hendrickson, but he's he's hurt right now.
Speaker 4: Those guys are those guys are starters in the NFL.
Speaker 4: But otherwise you've got most of those guys are backups
Speaker 4: if that on NFL rosters. And so that Zach Taylor
Speaker 4: has a really tough job in balancing what the front
Speaker 4: office has given him. And uh, I don't in a
Speaker 4: in an incredible offense and a very really awful defense.
Speaker 4: And so I think that I think that the saving
Speaker 4: grace there in terms of whether you know, the culture
Speaker 4: piece and whether he's not lost the locker room is
Speaker 4: that you've got a bunch of defensive guys who were
Speaker 4: so young, and that they are all none of there's
Speaker 4: no real strong voices there and so they don't know
Speaker 4: what they don't know sort of thing. And in terms
Speaker 4: of of being NFL players yet, I don't know if
Speaker 4: they're gonna it's gonna click for him.
Speaker 1: It doesn't look good on paper, it looks awful. Now
Speaker 1: you got a tough part of the schedule coming, you
Speaker 1: got the Patriots, and you got Thanksgiving Night, the hard
Speaker 1: part's coming. Well, we got to run. But Jason Williams
Speaker 1: the columns of cincinnai dot Com, all we have is hope.
Speaker 1: Hope is gone. Now I have faith. I have faith,
Speaker 1: but I've lost hope. And hope is going to come somewhere,
Speaker 1: but I don't know where. And I think it's kind
Speaker 1: of stupid to put Joe Burrow back out there. But
Speaker 1: then the integrity of the game comes into you know,
Speaker 1: the NFL is going to say, look, you have a quarterback.
Speaker 1: He can play. You've got to be able to play
Speaker 1: your best team even if you're gonna lose. You got
Speaker 1: to put up something against the Ravens on Thanksgiving night,
Speaker 1: so we'll see what happens. But nineteen nineties revisited and
Speaker 1: Zach Shull was likely to serve one more year because
Speaker 1: he's making about four and a half million dollars a year.
Speaker 1: He's got one more year left on his contract, and
Speaker 1: we're going to see this through. But Jason Williams, thanks
Speaker 1: for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show this Monday afternoon.
Speaker 1: Good luck to you, and say hi to your wife
Speaker 1: for me. She's put her finger on something.
Speaker 4: Thank you, my friend, and give the segment a big.
Speaker 1: Hug for him.
Speaker 4: Ok.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll kick him in the ass and give him
Speaker 1: a donut. Jason, thank you very much. All right, let's
Speaker 1: continue with more your comments. Next Shit's are Home of
Speaker 1: the Bengals these radio seven hundreds WW all right. Billy
Speaker 1: Cunningham the great American. And whenever I have the high
Speaker 1: school kids in have won state championships, it always gives
Speaker 1: me hope for the future otherwise not present. How many
Speaker 1: times if you've read about bad things done by teenagers
Speaker 1: and that hardly ever happens. If your time and talents
Speaker 1: would take it up with school and sports and social
Speaker 1: engineering that kind of stuff, you're good to go. In fact,
Speaker 1: I cannot recall in the last forty years a high
Speaker 1: school doing better on my pop quiz than McNicholas High
Speaker 1: School and the girls a volleyball team the state title
Speaker 1: because the leadership with Darlene and many others. How many people?
Speaker 1: How many citizens know that five freedom is guaranteed in
Speaker 1: the First Amendment? Or whose pictures on a one, five, ten,
Speaker 1: twenty and one hundred dollars bill? Or who the American
Speaker 1: fight in the War of teen twelve or named the
Speaker 1: three kind of rocks? Or give me the score root
Speaker 1: of thirty six? What is the value of pie? I'm
Speaker 1: not talking about chocolate, a cherry, your apple. It's unbelievable performance.
Speaker 1: I doubt they're going to be a dreg to society.
Speaker 1: I bet everyone moves on to college or some other
Speaker 1: productive labor. I bet everyone meets a guy and gets
Speaker 1: married and have kids, which is according to the precepts
Speaker 1: of Segment's good friend Charlie Kirk, who said three things
Speaker 1: in life priorities Number one God, number two is family,
Speaker 1: and number three is America not bad. And I wonder
Speaker 1: in college today how often you hear about God family
Speaker 1: and America not very much. The fact is almost counter revolutionary.
Speaker 1: So these girls in the future are going to go
Speaker 1: on to college, They're going to meet some guy, get married,
Speaker 1: have a productive life, be a mother, be a wife,
Speaker 1: which is one of the highest callings a person can have,
Speaker 1: and then be a productive member of societ and not
Speaker 1: someone who is taking from the system of someone paying
Speaker 1: into the system. And that's the way it ought to be.
Speaker 1: I don't mind paying taxes. It's rent to live in
Speaker 1: the greatest country in the world. However, I want my
Speaker 1: tax dollars to be used wisely. I would note that
Speaker 1: this morning the person in charge of the foodstamp business,
Speaker 1: Agricultural Secretary of Brook Rowlins, said this morning that she's
Speaker 1: going to demand by the first of the year that
Speaker 1: everyone on foodstamps reapply to determine how many people actually
Speaker 1: are alive that receive it and what's their status. She
Speaker 1: says that up to five million of the forty two
Speaker 1: million are illegal aliens. There's several million that are dead,
Speaker 1: and there's a couple million that received benefits in two
Speaker 1: different states. And that was meant to be a lifeline
Speaker 1: for low income households, wasn't meant to be a landing spot.
Speaker 1: She also is going to demand that all the soda
Speaker 1: pop and the candy and the cheese toodles be taken out.
Speaker 1: They had to get nourishing food. How about that concept?
Speaker 1: And so this comes from twenty nine of the states
Speaker 1: that have supplied information to the Feds. Twenty one states,
Speaker 1: I might add, all blue states have refused to send
Speaker 1: to the Department of Agriculture who's on food stamps. You see,
Speaker 1: the foodstamp program is administered by the states, but paid
Speaker 1: for by the federal government. So it'd be interesting to
Speaker 1: know how many people are on food stamps that should
Speaker 1: not be on them. Each recipient gets about two hundred
Speaker 1: dollars a month. And as a practicing Roman Catholic, I
Speaker 1: want every hungry person to be fed, absolutely, but I
Speaker 1: strongly suspect that about half the people on food stamps
Speaker 1: should not be on food stamps. In fact, maybe they
Speaker 1: should be working. Like segment Dennison, who gets here about
Speaker 1: four o'clock in the morning and stays until about three
Speaker 1: o'clock in the afternoon. He works. What a novel concept
Speaker 1: to work. And so I hope she follows through with this,
Speaker 1: and that would say billions and billions of dollars. The
Speaker 1: cost of food stamps in twenty nineteen was approximately forty
Speaker 1: billion dollars. The cost of food stamps today is well
Speaker 1: over one hundred billion dollars. In fact, in the nineteen fifties,
Speaker 1: one of fifty Americans were on food stamps. Today it's
Speaker 1: one in eight, and I can't believe the society has
Speaker 1: changed that much over the past fifty years. People are
Speaker 1: gaming the system for personal benefit, and the benefits should
Speaker 1: be there for those in need, not those that refuse
Speaker 1: to work, or for those are on food stamps and
Speaker 1: multiple locations, or for dead people. Shouldn't work that way.
Speaker 1: So I want to congratulate Secretary of Agriculture Brook Rollins,
Speaker 1: and maybe she'll follow through with this, but she needs
Speaker 1: the information from the Blue States who's getting food stamps
Speaker 1: to cross check whether they're entitled, or even to check
Speaker 1: whether they're alive or dead. What a novel concept. Let's
Speaker 1: continue with more news is next along with Rocky Boys
Speaker 1: making an appearance to talk about Santa versus Muller. And
Speaker 1: as you know, I contacted Denise Treehouse, the county commissioner
Speaker 1: who called Keddy Blackburn, and they're more than willing to
Speaker 1: host these events at pay corps, but ohsaas never asked.
Speaker 1: They simply scheduled for Mason High School that holds five thousand,
Speaker 1: and there's fifty thousand desperate fans that want to attend.
Speaker 1: Two thirty Home of Your Bengals News Radio seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati, Hello,
Speaker 1: Byett Mom Skulls. I'm broadcasting one is the draft this year.
Speaker 1: We gotta get ready for the NFL April April. Bengali
Speaker 1: have a top three pick, do you think? And let's
Speaker 1: do Toba make it top ten. See, but that's the thing,
Speaker 1: top three pick. I could make that pick. Seig to
Speaker 1: make that pick? Not sure about it. You gotta make
Speaker 1: picks later in the rounds. That's how you are going
Speaker 1: upon which to make a decision. They don't scout anyone,
Speaker 1: just kind of watch a little tape and and then
Speaker 1: the Duke Tobin flips a coin and away you go.
Speaker 1: Now you're avoiding the obvious question question, the big one
Speaker 1: of the more. We're gonna talk about Al Golden without
Speaker 1: the D. I now call him Goldan no d in Golden.
Speaker 1: That's a notre dame. Wait wait, wait, time out. So
Speaker 1: you were blaming.
Speaker 9: If you're blaming the defensive utility on al Golden, are
Speaker 9: you correct?
Speaker 1: Not the players? Not the players. It's the archite Carter
Speaker 1: Metri's night that were thrust into about that one running
Speaker 1: through like an incredible hulk. People look like the three
Speaker 1: stooges out there trying to tackle him. Now, to be fair,
Speaker 1: that kid is six seven to seventy and he break
Speaker 1: them down. That's that's I go low like talk tackling
Speaker 1: offensive tackle? Would you go on that absolutely try to
Speaker 1: hold onto a kneecap before just take him out? How bad?
Speaker 1: Wasn't Rock You didn't probably hear the game watching?
Speaker 9: I actually had I actually it was busy with my
Speaker 9: own football on Sunday, but I rewatched the game. Unfortunately.
Speaker 9: What about the spit game? Well this morning, that's bad.
Speaker 9: He's a captain. Can't do that right.
Speaker 1: Stephen A. Smith says two games send a message in
Speaker 1: the players.
Speaker 9: Adam Chef there four hours ago said the NFL will
Speaker 9: make a ruling today.
Speaker 1: That's two forty.
Speaker 9: Where are they don't know what Jalen Carter got one game.
Speaker 9: It was that game when he spit on Dak Prescott
Speaker 9: in week one of the season started the present. They yeah,
Speaker 9: but the president is set, so it should probably be
Speaker 9: one game. Now do they look ill upon the fact
Speaker 9: that he lied and said that he didn't do it?
Speaker 1: He lied in the media rock he lied. He committed
Speaker 1: perjury of the media. Can't do that.
Speaker 9: Look, if you want to stop things from happening, right,
Speaker 9: if you want to stop you know, muggings downtown on
Speaker 9: Fountain Square, you want to stop people's you got to
Speaker 9: make the punishment harsh, right.
Speaker 1: At least two million dollars. So you got, That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You got, It's got to be something where
Speaker 1: the players go, whoa noting to that? You're not thinking
Speaker 1: of those by the way, you know, I was thinking
Speaker 1: about the earlier. You know, all the times the most
Speaker 1: inexcusable thing that ever happens is when a guy is
Speaker 1: running for a touchdown he drops the ball short of
Speaker 1: the goal line. Right. It happens like all the time. Right,
Speaker 1: if I were coaching a team, you would get fined
Speaker 1: one million dollars if you drop the ball. That would
Speaker 1: stop it. That would stop it right there. Well, anyway,
Speaker 1: what was the issue. You're avoiding the issue? What is it?
Speaker 1: Al Golden from Notre dame.
Speaker 9: You blame that.
Speaker 1: You blame this on him and not the coaches. The
Speaker 1: grand architect of the Nile, I'm julianna Umo was in
Speaker 1: charge of this defense last year. He gotta go. We
Speaker 1: got player lou and he goes to the Colts and
Speaker 1: they're like really good. But in the same players are
Speaker 1: with the Bengals and how could you They had a
Speaker 1: bye week they had and there's nothing you can do.
Speaker 1: How many times a guy to say this, they don't
Speaker 1: have good enough players. That's what wins football games. Good
Speaker 1: players wins football game sake good players. The Bengals have
Speaker 1: enough of one defense. No, Zach Schuil has said after
Speaker 1: the game, we have to we just have to. We
Speaker 1: got tackle harder, we gotta we gotta clean up. Well,
Speaker 1: he's a captain spitting at Jalen Rams. He was a
Speaker 1: clown anyway, He's the one that green.
Speaker 9: He is a clown. Now, that guy's an ultimate clown.
Speaker 9: But you can't do that. He's baiting you for a
Speaker 9: reason and he took the bait and ran with it.
Speaker 9: You're not answering my question.
Speaker 1: What is the question? Here's the question. What I talked
Speaker 1: to your friend Denise Treehouse. Yes, so called Katie Blackburn Brown. Yes,
Speaker 1: he said, thank you, but we got to get the
Speaker 1: sand X smaller game to pay cores. What kind of
Speaker 1: sense does that make? First of all, it makes no sense.
Speaker 9: When I when I played the regional game was at Nipper,
Speaker 9: everybody local could come. You know, those fans had packed
Speaker 9: in stack Well, because in this day and age of
Speaker 9: nil and always thousands of other recruiting violations, they say
Speaker 9: it's a recruiting violation.
Speaker 1: For UC to host a game at never It's dumb.
Speaker 1: It's so dumb. There would be twenty thousand.
Speaker 9: People easy, easily, great. We at this Elder Santax game,
Speaker 9: great weather. The whole deal houses about three thousand and
Speaker 9: they're sold out.
Speaker 1: Can't get it. So I said to Denise, you get
Speaker 1: a hold of Katie and then call the OHSA. I
Speaker 1: will get behind this whatever I have to do. You see,
Speaker 1: it got to be done today today, I said, well,
Speaker 1: so done today. She wants the OHSA to call Katie
Speaker 1: Blackburn Brown and say can we have the game? What's
Speaker 1: the deal? And the county says, whatever it's going to be,
Speaker 1: we'll take care of it. Let's go. But it's got
Speaker 1: to be done today by six o'clock. Otherwise it's too late.
Speaker 1: Bengals play on Sunday at one o'clock. Okay, but it's
Speaker 1: Friday night time. Cleaning up was good, fifty degrees player
Speaker 1: skies perfect. So Ohsa, he's got a call. But that's
Speaker 1: a black hole. They don't want the game. They don't
Speaker 1: want money like money, they don't they don't want money.
Speaker 1: And that'll make so much money if you do a
Speaker 1: hell of a deal. Well, you know it's let's met,
Speaker 1: Katie says, okay, So what's the price? I said, well,
Speaker 1: get have them give me a call? Can you have
Speaker 1: them give her a call? Yes? Who is the HSA?
Speaker 1: Who is that? Well? Tim Stree is the guy I
Speaker 1: know up there. Why don't you call him? I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get a hold in Winstonder an email right now, right now.
Speaker 1: County commissioners and the Bengals agree. They have the game
Speaker 1: here on Friday at seven o'clock. According to the Nise
Speaker 1: tree House, the Bengals say, okay, now the money's got
Speaker 1: to be worked out. But she said no, well, don't
Speaker 1: make it work. Yeah, she said, won't make it work.
Speaker 1: Katie's on board with this. Why can't you make it happen.
Speaker 1: We're gonna try to make it happen. Do it right now?
Speaker 1: Why did you do something? I don't know those guys Ohesa.
Speaker 1: I got the ballot right here to pay the players
Speaker 1: right there? No money, principal's got Princeville, the floodgates open
Speaker 1: nine to one. No, Kenji Madeira High School. No, nobody
Speaker 1: in high school wants to pay these players right, they're
Speaker 1: going to say no.
Speaker 9: The issue is other states allow high school players.
Speaker 1: That's why.
Speaker 9: Honestly, why Chris Henry, Why I'm going to modern day whatever?
Speaker 9: When he was at Withrow. How much money it makes?
Speaker 9: Some money can't say say how much you getting? So
Speaker 9: like no one loves this, but it's like we've got
Speaker 9: to do it or else we're gonna lose top players
Speaker 9: to other other states.
Speaker 1: That important? Do you want Elder and Sandex players? You
Speaker 1: want differ players? Pid? No, I know Doug Ramsey doesn't
Speaker 1: want to those. DESPEC doesn't want to. No. No, it's
Speaker 1: gotta say no, and that if they go to some others.
Speaker 1: How many Chris Henry's are there right kids that we
Speaker 1: go absolutely, yeah, there's twenty of them. Try to get
Speaker 1: this done today by six. We're gonna try then, tell
Speaker 1: third three thousand, tell them that the county commissioners and
Speaker 1: the Bengals agree they have the game in pay court.
Speaker 4: State.
Speaker 1: Tim Street listens to this program, and I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: hold of them, get ahold of them. I will say,
Speaker 1: give me some sports. Will heave the students?
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Speaker 1: It's still gonna play the game with three thousand tickets?
Speaker 1: Am I right or wrong?
Speaker 9: I mean everyone, all the sin X folks do are
Speaker 9: losing their minds because you can't get a ticket to
Speaker 9: go to the game.
Speaker 1: You can't biggest game in a decade. Can can san
Speaker 1: X beat Moller when they didn't do it during the
Speaker 1: regular season, Well they just did. I'm sorry, angles up.
Speaker 6: They brought town in Northern Kentucky.
Speaker 1: I thought I thought sane X beat Elder? What did
Speaker 1: the Elder during No X about season? I wasn't at
Speaker 1: that game? Will you be quiet? X?
Speaker 9: Pete Moeller in the regional semifinal at Dayton Welcome Stadium
Speaker 9: on Friday. Fantastic game and watched on TV when I
Speaker 9: was in Lexington. Well there was fantastic officials. I was
Speaker 9: told Maler had two touchdowns. They called back on penalties
Speaker 9: the officials X.
Speaker 1: Gratch, No, that's not right.
Speaker 6: Bengles Line tonight at six o five here on seven
Speaker 6: hundred W b W.
Speaker 1: You sure didn't go to St x positive.
Speaker 6: Get the latest on the Xavier Musketeers to night Richard
Speaker 6: Patino Show at seven on fifty.
Speaker 1: Five calling that game.
Speaker 9: By the way, it was late in the game and
Speaker 9: I think they gave us a makeup anyway, but they
Speaker 9: called unsports my conduct. When a says kids sacked the
Speaker 9: quarterback and Kobe Clapper goes over to like like like yeah,
Speaker 9: farm up and they act and they said he was
Speaker 9: taunting his quarterback.
Speaker 1: It was yeahs don't know how they should have got
Speaker 1: some jokes.
Speaker 9: If Grandma can't see the foul from the top of
Speaker 9: the deck of the stands, you shouldn't throw the flag.
Speaker 1: And how come but jamar Cha is going to get
Speaker 1: a flag when no one called it at the time. Well,
Speaker 1: luckily there was well luckily or unluckily for him, there
Speaker 1: was one Cincinnati media member that had a camera shot
Speaker 1: right there. Fox at nineteen. You didn't get away with
Speaker 1: that stuff anymore. There's too many cameras. Everybody has cell phones.
Speaker 1: Something came out of his mouth. I'm not sure what
Speaker 1: it was, bile, it was clear in his throat.
Speaker 6: Red's update well, the single games tickets for all twenty
Speaker 6: twenty six Reds regular season hard games at GABP are
Speaker 6: now on sale, including opening day on sale for a
Speaker 6: limited time through Monday, November twenty fourth. Single game tickets
Speaker 6: are available with no fees.
Speaker 1: Rock getting ready for the Reds or getting ready for
Speaker 1: the opening day and also for the draft right.
Speaker 6: Twenty eight players are on the twenty twenty six Baseball
Speaker 6: Hall of Fame ballot.
Speaker 1: Three Reds. Who are they rate their chances? Sin Sue Chew?
Speaker 1: What centerfield or left? No?
Speaker 6: Matt Kemp he was here for like five games. Former
Speaker 6: Dodger and.
Speaker 1: Beg Eddie Big, Edie Milner, No, not talking about Eddie
Speaker 1: Fingers either. Edwin n.
Speaker 6: Carnassion is on the Baseball ballot. No, he's in.
Speaker 1: I know that.
Speaker 6: The favorites are Carlos Beltran of the Mets and Andrew Jones,
Speaker 6: the former Braves.
Speaker 1: Great, yeh know what not good? There were? There are
Speaker 1: those Hall of famers.
Speaker 6: Ad A Rod's on list, Ryan get drugs, drugs.
Speaker 1: Well, I got a text here from Pete Whitty. Elder
Speaker 1: games sold out in forty five minutes, almost like a
Speaker 1: Tayte concert. Now there's no tickets available to watch Elder
Speaker 1: kick the crap out of Saint X. You want to
Speaker 1: go double or nothing on a hot fut Sunday, I'll
Speaker 1: take care. Let's give you say do it right? You're
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick?
Speaker 9: Bet, well, we're not out of the woods yet. They
Speaker 9: still Sunday four wins. They got two games left. But
Speaker 9: and also the NC Double A and times when there's
Speaker 9: not enough quality bulletpons, they will give a five win
Speaker 9: team in Bowl.
Speaker 1: So if that stipulation happens, I still get my hot.
Speaker 1: We're going to play UC December twenty sixth in Phoenix, Arizona.
Speaker 1: Can't wait for that action. Belichick goes from the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl to the Toilet Bowl. Well, why does any give
Speaker 1: it up and go coach the New York Giants? That
Speaker 1: was my prediction, because why don't you just go home
Speaker 1: with Jordan? I would for a while. What's he seeing her?
Speaker 1: What's he getting out of her? Do you think I
Speaker 1: have no idea?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: You do?
Speaker 1: Have you texted yet? Side penetration?
Speaker 6: No, I'm gonna email it Emil Family.
Speaker 1: Show, lap I just got it, Wally Sweeney. Listen to
Speaker 1: this one touchdown and one on five yard line insane
Speaker 1: set it downs called back and twenty yards of penalties
Speaker 1: at sant X held down and beat up on the
Speaker 1: maller guys. Nothing was called but penalty after penalty on
Speaker 1: mallor none on st X.
Speaker 4: Over.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that's.
Speaker 9: It was going to be fourth and like a million
Speaker 9: and they called a bs unsports frolike conduct.
Speaker 1: Okay, gave new life bullers drove.
Speaker 9: Down the field, they went four on fourth down, did
Speaker 9: not get it s extra of ninety some yards touchdown.
Speaker 1: See, you would want to be You don't tell me
Speaker 1: the facts. I have my opinion. Don't confuse me with
Speaker 1: the fact exactly. That was awkward by the.
Speaker 9: Mcnick volleyball crowd. The best they knew everything. I saw
Speaker 9: him in the hallway where it came that those kids
Speaker 9: is bright.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I have the five questions of the
Speaker 1: citizenship test, Yes, but the doing but a big boy back.
Speaker 1: How about knowing who we fought in the War of
Speaker 1: eighteen twelve. I bet you there's a lot of high
Speaker 1: school kids that don't know that we know what eighteen
Speaker 1: twelve and that all they know is six seven sixty seven.
Speaker 1: They know sixty seven, don't know eighteen twelve. Do you
Speaker 1: have any hope for I have little hope. I have faith,
Speaker 1: but I don't have hope that the Bengals are going
Speaker 1: to arise? Would you play Joe Burrow at this point?
Speaker 1: I just know.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 1: I guess he's going to It's a matter of integrity.
Speaker 1: You know, you can play a game competitive balance. You
Speaker 1: got to play right. Yeah, but that's very subjective.
Speaker 9: I mean, guy's recovering from a complex, complicated toe surgery.
Speaker 1: He's had them all, hadn't he all of them? Toe? Knee, calf, appendix, wrist.
Speaker 1: What's next?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: One or two? That's the thing. If it's you risk
Speaker 1: something else, testicle, something's gonna hurt.
Speaker 9: Hopefully he learned. He's got to get the ball out
Speaker 9: of his quicker. He's got to dump the ball down.
Speaker 9: You can't wait for the his worst game on Sunday.
Speaker 9: But he's hurt pretty good.
Speaker 1: He's hurt. He's hurting.
Speaker 9: He looked a little showing his age, and Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 9: beat up a little bit.
Speaker 1: You know, he doesn't look good in his Steelers helmet.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers doesn't look good. Bad look. Yeah, Bason Rudolph
Speaker 1: took him to the Promised Land. So we'll see what
Speaker 1: what's on the big show besides trying to get the
Speaker 1: Sandax game at Pey Corps.
Speaker 9: Well, me and Eddie are going to discuss the Bengals
Speaker 9: game on Sunday. Where do we go from here? Give
Speaker 9: my thoughts on the look from here on out. This
Speaker 9: is an audition. There's an audition to see who belongs
Speaker 9: on this team next year, especially on defense, young linebackers,
Speaker 9: Eric Carter, Demetri's Knight. They deserve to be starters. They
Speaker 9: cleared the deck for these guys them up and and
Speaker 9: and and I said it at the time. They put
Speaker 9: too much on him, too quickly, taking too rookies. Okay,
Speaker 9: that weren't you know, generational talented picks. And all of
Speaker 9: a sudden they went from like zero plays. So you're
Speaker 9: playing sixty five plays and you're playing nickel, you're playing dime,
Speaker 9: you're calling the defense you're getting guys lined up.
Speaker 1: It's too much, too much, too much. I just gave
Speaker 1: away the whole first segment and nonetheless, and you have
Speaker 1: you have a Shamar Steward who picked him. It's terrible.
Speaker 1: Trey Henderson. Now four games. Trags is gonna join us
Speaker 1: at four thirty five. By the way, he's a weigh
Speaker 1: in and Jamar Jason travel to the game. How about that?
Speaker 1: You got one captain spitting in the face, another captain
Speaker 1: doesn't show up. Has he the game? Thirty million? It's
Speaker 1: not firing. I'm firing right there. I mean, how much
Speaker 1: can you take?
Speaker 9: It's already done anyway, just laying down what's right and
Speaker 9: what's wrong?
Speaker 1: Thirty million dollars. Trey Henderson income a game. It doesn't
Speaker 1: go to the game. It's hurt he said. It's Stuart
Speaker 1: signing again.
Speaker 9: What do you mean when he's signing the game and
Speaker 9: go through all this nonsense again?
Speaker 1: The contract, it's over, it's over. Can't take it?
Speaker 2: It ic.
Speaker 1: What do you do? You sit there and just every
Speaker 1: Monday just pick up the pieces of disaster. At least
Speaker 1: got the UC barcut football team looking at that, Well,
Speaker 1: you know what mess?
Speaker 6: We got face face and Saturday Sunday Messy five o'clock,
Speaker 6: five o'clock mess l Stadiumstern Conference Action, Messy, f C,
Speaker 6: the the mess Messy who likes Sunday.
Speaker 1: I'm taking Miami. I'll give you f C. You want
Speaker 1: messy it all, take f C. Then I'll give you all. Right, Tay,
Speaker 1: get me out. He's gonna turn turn it, turning your
Speaker 1: back on your home team. I didn't, I just I
Speaker 1: just switched into her. But just see if you jump
Speaker 1: on it. That's all I did. Give me my hot
Speaker 1: fudge Sunday by tomorrow. Don't let the facts barrow on
Speaker 1: that coming back. But I'll bring your hot money. N
Speaker 1: I l money. Yeah, high schools buy an I else
Speaker 1: about right behind your Rocke is me Nicholas High School.
Speaker 1: The girls smart, bright and gives me hope for the future.
Speaker 6: Right there, milk what that's a sponsor for the tournament.
Speaker 6: And I l they all signed. They all signed that dove.
Speaker 1: And they were smart, smart, they were charismatic, They're joyful.
Speaker 1: I was wonderful friendly. I have whenever hit kids like
Speaker 1: that come in here, I have I have faith. I
Speaker 1: have not hope, but you have faith. I have faith.
Speaker 1: I don't have any hope no Rock find out from
Speaker 1: them about the game. I want to get it to
Speaker 1: be known as the Rocky Boorman Bowl done. Get it done,
Speaker 1: say get me out of the Stude's report.
Speaker 6: Police, Well you and honor of a beautiful day here
Speaker 6: in the tri State, we leave you with the immortal
Speaker 6: words of the stewed report.
Speaker 1: I want to feel what pure love feels like. That
Speaker 1: was my intention, Aaron Rodgers, and I did that time.
Speaker 1: I really did. I had a magical experience with uh,
Speaker 1: the sensation of feeling one hundred different hands on my body.
Speaker 1: I like to get two hands in my body. I
Speaker 1: was in the Bengals defense. Beggars can't be choosers, I guess,
Speaker 1: but Aaron, I gotta leave a few for the rest
Speaker 1: of us, right, So that's like Jeffrey Epstein. I can't
Speaker 1: say that. I can't say that, Rock, thank you. See
Speaker 1: you think I feel. I feel mystical and mythical. I
Speaker 1: want one hundred hands all over my body rubbing me.
Speaker 1: I'll take two. I'll take two on seven hundred.
Speaker 3: W o w
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.