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Speaker 1: Welcome compadres to the Bucco Revolution. I saw that phrase

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Speaker 1: on Twitter, Viva we revolution on. Well, that's what they

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Speaker 1: said about the Sandinistas. A lot of revolutions end up

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Speaker 1: with the rebels piled up in a bloody heat. We'll

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Speaker 1: get to the Buckos in the home open just a moment,

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Speaker 1: but right now, let's tuck.

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Speaker 2: Penguins.

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Speaker 1: Not a good loss in Tampa sixty three. Once again,

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Speaker 1: too many goals allowed. Skinner wasn't good and it was

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Speaker 1: a rotten defensive effort. But the Penguins played okay early

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Speaker 1: and goaltending could have stolen the game, but it never does.

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Speaker 1: So now the Penguins are four points safe in the

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Speaker 1: playoff spot in Detroit and Ottawa in the chase, both

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Speaker 1: have a game in hand. Sid struggled. He doesn't look

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Speaker 1: at hundred percent. Not much from Gino.

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Speaker 2: Last night.

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Speaker 1: Ginakov scored twice. He's got twenty goals. He's a rocket.

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Speaker 1: That's seventeen goals in thirty eight games since joining the Penguins.

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Speaker 1: Another victory for modern communism. But hey, buck a revolution

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Speaker 1: that is the big story today. Pirates hosting the Baltimorons

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Speaker 1: first pitch a little after four o'clock. We got the

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Speaker 1: Griffin debut and the long term contract which has not

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Speaker 1: yet been confirmed, but nobody seems to think there's a

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Speaker 1: hitch there. The Griffin deal is the right move by

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Speaker 1: the Pirates at about time too, at long last. But

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Speaker 1: here's what God happened next. If you're in the hunt

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Speaker 1: for a playoff spot at the trade deadline, which is

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Speaker 1: August third, you gotta add payroll and talent rentals, whatever,

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Speaker 1: try to prospect it you have to.

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Speaker 3: And b.

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Speaker 1: You got Griffins and Schemes together for this year and

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Speaker 1: as many as three more years through Skins's arbitration.

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Speaker 2: In that time, go all in.

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Speaker 1: Jack up the payroll to the MLB media.

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Speaker 2: That's about one hundred and sixty five mil right now.

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Speaker 1: That's Baltimore who you're playing today at number sixteen. That

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Speaker 1: got settled for Milwaukee spend, which is about a buck

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Speaker 1: thirty four. So you go all in while you got

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Speaker 1: Skins and Griffin, and after Skins leaves and he will.

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Speaker 2: You burn it down.

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Speaker 1: But you got four years, including this one, to really

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Speaker 1: give it a go, and that's a long time. And

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Speaker 1: after that you still got Griffin as a rebuilding block

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Speaker 1: to sell tickets and merch. But if you can't do it

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Speaker 1: to be thrift, if you don't spend even when you

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Speaker 1: got those two, don't spend more, then what's happened isn't

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Speaker 1: ambition long last, it's more appeasement.

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Speaker 2: It's more the con goes on.

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Speaker 1: This really could work, so why not make sure this

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Speaker 1: is the Mark Madden Show awaken when eighty works?

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Speaker 2: If you wanted to got a big game tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: I'm referring, of course, the Liverpool FC at Manchester City

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Speaker 1: in the FA Cup quarterfinals.

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Speaker 2: Come on, you Reds.

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Speaker 1: The number to call is eight three three four one

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Speaker 1: two wxdx, or you can follow me on Twitter at

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Speaker 1: Mark Madden x. The Pirates going all in the next

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Speaker 1: four years, including this one, while you've got schemes and

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Speaker 1: Griffin overlapping.

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Speaker 2: Should it happen? Will it happen?

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Speaker 1: How much does this one contract make you buy in?

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Speaker 1: It was long ago you were channing sell the team.

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Speaker 1: It was long ago you desperately wanted the GM to

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Speaker 1: be fired. Well, now you're relying on the same two

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Speaker 1: guys to see it through. Do you trust that a

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Speaker 1: three three four one two wxdx. Uh. The Penguins now

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Speaker 1: got two home games against Florida on Saturday and Sunday,

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Speaker 1: which of course is a scheduling oddity. Florida's tied for

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Speaker 1: last place in the Atlantic after two Cups in a row.

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Speaker 1: They just got hurt, a ton of injuries, ran out

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Speaker 1: of gas all those playoff series.

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Speaker 2: Don't forget they win the final.

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Speaker 1: The year before they won the first of those two

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Speaker 1: Stanley Cups, so that's three finals in a row. The

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Speaker 1: Panthers are kind of in the tank. No Barkoff, no Marshan, no,

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Speaker 2: So I am worried. Sin and Gino. You need more.

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Speaker 1: We've talked about the depth and it's huge and it's

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Speaker 1: winning games and it may be the biggest factor, but

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Speaker 1: you need better from your star power than you got

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Speaker 1: last night and then you're getting lately. Even in those

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Speaker 1: two wins over the Islanders in Detroit last night, it's

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Speaker 1: one game on the road, a very good opponent.

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Speaker 2: Penguige are still in good shape.

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Speaker 1: One of those sites that has the percentages which you're

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Speaker 2: I nearly killed him. I think I might be Espn says.

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Speaker 1: The Penguins are still ninety three percent to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: I hope that's true. Skinner and Goal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's your best bet, I guess, but he simply

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Speaker 1: doesn't have my belief in a playoff series, nor to shilloffs.

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Speaker 1: Last night, Yeah, it's only one game, but was one

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Speaker 1: that could have been stolen, and the Penguins goaltending never does.

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Speaker 2: Like today's home opener for the Pirates.

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Speaker 1: It's only one game, but you caught up, Griffin, You

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Speaker 1: sign Griffin, you got the cone. It'd be a shame

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Speaker 1: to spoil the sold out party by losing. And every

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Speaker 1: win for these Pirates, every win is gonna matter. That's

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Speaker 1: the margin of era, which is to say it ain't much.

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Speaker 1: Same thing's been true with the Penguins, which is why

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Speaker 1: a game last night, but you never counted on winning.

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Speaker 1: Losing it has kind of thrown me for a bit

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Speaker 1: of a loop, but it don't take much to shake me.

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Speaker 1: I think you've realized that by now. We got a

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Speaker 1: great guest, the ideal Baseball Opening Day guest at two thirty.

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Speaker 2: It's the mayor from MLB Network.

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Speaker 1: He has his podcast Upper Saint Claire's owned Sean Casey.

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Speaker 1: Sean Casey joining me at the bottom of this hour,

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Sawyer. Sawyer, You're on with double M.

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Speaker 4: Hi, Margaret, I just wanted to say I love the

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Speaker 4: show and I had a question on how do we

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Speaker 4: think the pros that Connor Gricky.

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Speaker 1: Will do in its first actual always hard to predict

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Speaker 1: for a first game. It'd be great if you hit

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Speaker 1: a home run and the fireworks Scott blasted literally and

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Speaker 1: even more so figuratively. But I think it's key at

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Speaker 1: nineteen years old and not too much put too much

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Speaker 1: pressure on the kid. That said, I'm on record as

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Speaker 1: saying that if he doesn't at least contend for Rookie

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Speaker 1: of the Year, they won't make the playoffs. They have

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Speaker 1: to get a lot out of him to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: I think the key factors are. I mean, we've talked

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Speaker 1: the back of that Cincinnati series that just concluded.

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Speaker 2: But I think among.

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Speaker 1: The the younger pirates, you need Connor Griffin to have

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Speaker 1: Ashcraft and Chandler on the rotation to fulfill their promise. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and the pitching game needs to be like not giving.

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Speaker 3: Up as much.

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Speaker 5: Wrong.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but like I just said about Ashcraft and Chandler, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean the hitting has been great so far.

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Speaker 2: The hitting was the big doc coming in.

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Speaker 1: But you did that, Lyle and o'hearne and Ozunas not

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Speaker 1: done much yet. But it's only six games. But hey,

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Speaker 1: the cliche applies, and thank you for the call. The

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Speaker 1: cliche applies to the Pirates now more than ever. The

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Speaker 1: top part is going to be making the playoffs. If

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Speaker 1: you get in the playoffs, that pitching can very easily

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Speaker 1: win series, but you got to get in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Up, Next, I'm going to talk about all the talk

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Speaker 1: about Connor Griffin. What's being said. I want your thoughts

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Speaker 1: that if the Pirates should or will go all in

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Speaker 1: these next four years, this year, in the next three

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Speaker 1: that's when you can have Schemes and Griffin together if

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Speaker 1: you want. The next three years are Schemes is arbitration

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Speaker 1: years unless the CBA dictates otherwise, Will the Pirates go

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Speaker 2: And what would that entail? A three three four one

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Speaker 2: two WXDX.

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Speaker 1: Connor Griffin debut at PNC Park in today's home opener

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Speaker 1: that's coming up into four cowk hou or not on

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Speaker 1: this station. We'll be talking a lot of hockey once

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Speaker 1: the baseball starts. But right now, yeah, let's talk Connor Griffin.

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Speaker 1: What are your expectations eight three, three, four one two WXDX.

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Speaker 2: I think if he as a.

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Speaker 1: Rookie of the year level performance to Pirates probably make

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. There's so many factors, and it's unfair to

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Speaker 1: count on a nineteen year old kid for that much.

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Speaker 1: But it's a nineteen year old kid that's a five

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Speaker 1: tool player. Keep hearing that he's a five tool guy.

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Speaker 1: If that's true, it seems a waste to be married

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Speaker 1: at nineteen five tool guy. His condoms fit like a glove. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he's very happy. It's like when Tommy Radio

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Speaker 1: I heard an interview Griffin did just a little bit ago.

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Speaker 1: He sounds like a regular teenager. No, airs I like it.

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Speaker 1: He said this team is loaded. I'm not a one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent sure about that. My thing about the Pirates

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Speaker 1: going all in for the next four years, including this one,

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Speaker 1: and spending more and adding it to the deadline this

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Speaker 2: How can you not? But I don't know if they will.

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Speaker 1: People are pointing at Griffin as such a big spind

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Speaker 1: but over the long haul, if he's good, he'll be

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Speaker 1: a bargain, which was the purpose of the contract, getting

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Speaker 1: free agency. Yeah, it's a big spend bit. He'll also

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Speaker 1: Griffin pirates jerseys all over the North Shore already today,

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Speaker 1: a day after he got called up. He'll bring in

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Speaker 1: a ton of revenue. He'll pay for himself and maybe

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Speaker 1: then some. But a contract like that to keep a

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Speaker 1: would them doing this with Griffin. It has to make

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Speaker 1: you think and that they regret that they should have

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Speaker 1: done the same thing with Schemes. Tried to tie him

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Speaker 1: Don the dial they're talking about. Does this give the

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Speaker 1: encouraged Schemes to tie his future to Pittsburgh and sign

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Speaker 1: playing with Connor Griffin might seem attractive to Skemes, he

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Speaker 1: can go to New York and play with Aaron Judge

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Speaker 1: and whoever else. He can go to La and play

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Speaker 1: with Otani and whoever else and his girlfriend who wants

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Speaker 1: to be a star and already is to some degree.

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Speaker 1: He can get to a big city and do big

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Speaker 1: city things. No, the time to keep Schemes is coming gone.

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Speaker 1: At least they acted on the time to keep Griffin

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Speaker 1: and did so. Like I said, Pengwinch is still at

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Speaker 1: ninety seven percent to make the playoffs, even have losing

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Speaker 1: last night, according to whoever says that, Oh God, I

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Speaker 1: and we said that Connor Griffin he's gonna bat the

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Speaker 1: number seventh spot. I thought it might be number six,

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Speaker 1: but Horowitz is batting ahead of him. That's okay. That's

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Speaker 1: in a low pressure spot, and I think he'll wind

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Speaker 2: You know, it's funny.

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Speaker 1: There's pressure on Griffin to succeed and help the Pirates

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Speaker 1: some listeners over the past. How long Seattle Seahawks, the

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Speaker 1: next year on one oh five to nine. It's Opening Day,

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Speaker 1: How great is Opening Day?

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Speaker 2: Every year? It's a fresh start.

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Speaker 1: You never know where it's gonna end up, but things

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Speaker 4: What's going on? Brother?

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Speaker 3: Yes, Opening Day for every team is exciting, you know

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Speaker 2: Do you have a number one opening day memory from

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Speaker 1: It's funny because the occasion cannot shign the game like

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Speaker 2: We still don't know where that ball is, do we not?

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Speaker 1: he's only nineteen, but boy, what a stud A five

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Speaker 3: I mean, really, you know, when you talk about this kid,

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Speaker 1: Who would you compare Griffin to guys that are in

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Speaker 3: Well, I run a little bit better than he did,

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Speaker 4: Do well, you know what.

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Speaker 3: I I like those comps, you know. I like the

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Speaker 4: You're talking about great athletes and trout and win.

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Speaker 1: You know, Connor Griffin looks like you're a wrestling guy.

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Speaker 2: With the best of them too, No, no question.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think it looks like it right now.

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Speaker 3: You're a nineteen year old kid, You're just just coming

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Speaker 5: Three hundred and thirty million. So did Connor Griffin.

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Speaker 1: bat for sure, Traill is a better glove, but like

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Speaker 1: it's about who the better utility man is too, And

439
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Speaker 1: if Gonzalez is a third, I mean I go back

440
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Speaker 1: and forth, uh case, I like, I like Treolo's availability everywhere,

441
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Speaker 1: if that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Triolo's has such value because he can

443
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Speaker 3: play everywhere, so I don't know if he's necessarily a

444
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Speaker 3: third baseman, so, you.

445
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Speaker 5: Know, and Gonzalez can do that too.

446
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Speaker 3: He could play second, he could play short, he could

447
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Speaker 3: play third, so.

448
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Speaker 5: You have value in both of those guys.

449
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Speaker 4: I just think I see it the way you do.

450
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Speaker 3: If I got a guy at third base, I want

451
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Speaker 3: a little bit more offense. I think Gonzalez gives you

452
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Speaker 3: a little bit more offense that Triolo gives you.

453
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Speaker 1: And by the way, it's Triolo playing today. So what

454
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Speaker 1: do we know case he's betting?

455
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't know.

456
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Speaker 1: If we don't know, jell, yeah, forget about it. What's

457
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Speaker 1: your take on the Pirates after six games?

458
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Speaker 2: What's been good? What needs to be better?

459
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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what.

461
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Speaker 3: I'm pretty impressed, you know what they've done. I mean,

462
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Speaker 3: you know, out in New York they could have, you know,

463
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Speaker 3: walked away with it with a three game sweep. Obviously

464
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,679
Speaker 3: they scuffed a little bit, you know, in two of

465
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Speaker 3: those games.

466
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Speaker 4: But you know, I've just I've been I've been.

467
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Speaker 3: Impressed with the offense. Really, I mean, I've been impressed.

468
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Speaker 3: When they went to Cincinnati. You know, the balls are

469
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Speaker 3: hitting out of the ballpark with Reynolds and and Cruz,

470
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Speaker 3: o'hearne and lou have got gotten on base. I think

471
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Speaker 3: the biggest thing you're seeing you go back to last

472
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Speaker 3: year's team double im Spencer Horwitz is the only guy

473
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Speaker 3: up with an with over one hundred weighted runs created plus.

474
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Speaker 3: And what that means is a hundred is the average player.

475
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Speaker 3: The only the only guy a pub average player on

476
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Speaker 3: that team was was Spencer Horwitz. Now you're looking at

477
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Speaker 3: guys that are putting together good at bats. They're getting

478
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Speaker 3: on base, they're walking, They've got traffic on the bases

479
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Speaker 3: a lot, so you know they're gonna pitch. You got

480
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Speaker 3: Paul Schemes on your staff and Bubba Chandler and these

481
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Speaker 3: guys Mitch Keller.

482
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Speaker 5: You've got some arms.

483
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Speaker 3: They're gonna pitch. I mean, there's no doubt about that.

484
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Speaker 3: But the biggest thing was the bats that they have

485
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Speaker 3: them in the early going.

486
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna say, yeah, they do.

487
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're only going certainly. And the key is,

488
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Speaker 1: I mean they got lowed to hit. They go to

489
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Speaker 1: Herne to hit. So far, so good. You need the

490
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Speaker 1: guys who didn't hit last year. You might Cruise and

491
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Speaker 1: Reynolds had had had a good start, most notably those

492
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Speaker 1: last two games in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: They need to keep it up.

494
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Speaker 1: They're supposed to be big timers and they need to be

495
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Speaker 1: every bit of that.

496
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally agree though, Blu, and we can't just say, hey,

497
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Speaker 3: we got Low, we got o'hear and we got Ozulana

498
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Speaker 3: Griffin's coming up. No, you actually need Brian Reynolds and

499
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Speaker 3: you need O'Neil Cruz could be those type of players

500
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Speaker 3: that could be impact guys that could change the ballgame

501
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Speaker 3: with one swing of the bat.

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Speaker 1: You know.

503
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Speaker 3: And I think the other thing at the end of

504
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Speaker 3: the day to Cruise needs to continue to work. He

505
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Speaker 3: needs to continue to get better out there in centera

506
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Speaker 3: because you know, the big thing in the big leagues

507
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Speaker 3: is you win up the middle. You win with your catcher,

508
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 3: your your middle endfielders, and your center fielder as far

509
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Speaker 3: as cover and ground, and you just can't cost yourself

510
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Speaker 3: games out there in centerfield. So O'Neil Cruz needs to

511
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Speaker 3: continue to work.

512
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Speaker 4: At that position and continue to get better at it.

513
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Speaker 1: I've been encouraged by what we've seen, admittedly just in

514
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Speaker 1: one start a piece case from Chandler and Ashcraft. We

515
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Speaker 1: know they have the stuff if they come through and

516
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Speaker 1: I can stay healthy, which is a problem especially for Asscraft.

517
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Speaker 1: But if those two come through, boy they'll be right

518
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Speaker 1: there in September.

519
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Speaker 2: If not in a playoff spot.

520
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Speaker 4: No, there's no There's no doubt about it.

521
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Speaker 3: I think one thing, one thing with these arms is

522
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Speaker 3: that you know, Chandler's got an elite arm, you know,

523
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Speaker 3: and so does Asscrafts, both of those guys. I'm glad

524
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Speaker 3: that they weren't at any of these these trade pieces

525
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Speaker 3: that we had, you know, in the offseason. So, man,

526
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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what doublem You're right, man. If these arms,

527
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Speaker 3: you know, can continue to progress as young pitchers and

528
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 3: the pitch shaping continues to get better and better of

529
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Speaker 3: how you pitch these guys in the big leagues, the

530
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Speaker 3: buckos are really onto something.

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Speaker 1: Do you believe that Chandler uh and Kurt Shillings said this.

532
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Speaker 1: He said Chandler does too much max effort? Did he

533
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Speaker 1: never dials his velocity down? That even in spring training

534
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Speaker 1: he was throwing at a hundred. Do you believe in that?

535
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Speaker 1: Do you think that causes our problems? Or is it

536
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Speaker 1: a good thing?

537
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Speaker 4: You know what?

538
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Speaker 3: I think the philosophy is so different now than when

539
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 3: Kurt Shilling was there, and also when I played him.

540
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 3: There's a lot of max effort. You know that they

541
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 3: want your starter to go five innings Now they're not.

542
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 3: You know, back when Kurt Shilling is there, you're you're

543
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Speaker 3: keeping pace to try and you know, if you throw

544
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Speaker 3: one hundred, you're trying to sit at ninety five to

545
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Speaker 3: ninety seven so that you know you could touch one

546
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Speaker 3: hundred at some points, you know what I mean? And

547
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 3: I think I think, I think the biggest thing is that,

548
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 3: you know, guys nowadays are like, hey, give us your

549
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 3: max effort, give us what you have, get us through

550
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Speaker 3: five or six innings, and uh, you know, it's just

551
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 3: a different philosophy. But I think he's gonna have to

552
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 3: navigate that too. You know, he's gonna have to figure

553
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Speaker 3: out if max effort could enough for me in the

554
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Speaker 3: long term.

555
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Speaker 2: No, that that's a real good point.

556
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Speaker 1: You know what's funny case people don't actually talk about

557
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: schemes that much except to say how great he is?

558
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 2: I mean, how great can he be? Can he be

559
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 2: better than he was last year? Is that even possible?

560
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 2: What can he do better? Or add?

561
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Speaker 3: You know what I double lem And I've been fortunate

562
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 3: to be around a lot of great players, and I

563
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 3: wasn't fortunate to be around Paul Skins for two and

564
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 3: a half weeks with the WBC. And I just see

565
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 3: a guy that that that his mentality is at another level.

566
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Speaker 5: I really do.

567
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Speaker 3: I feel like he feels like there's another level he

568
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 3: can go to, and he's always working. He's a tireless worker.

569
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Speaker 3: You know, he expects a lot out of himself so much.

570
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 3: His standards for his work are high. His standards for

571
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 3: what he does on the on the bump are so high.

572
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 3: So yeah, I actually think there's another level that Paul

573
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 3: Skins can go to. Whether it's pitch shaping, whether it's

574
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 3: throwing more strikes. You know, I'm not even sure, but

575
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 3: I know he knows, and I know he's working at it,

576
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 3: and I wouldn't be shocked to see if.

577
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Speaker 5: He goes to another level again this year.

578
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: Yet wouldnt shot may if he had one of those

579
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: Bob Gibson seasons like in back in sixty eight when

580
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Speaker 1: I was a kid one point one two.

581
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Speaker 2: E er, I think he could reach a level an

582
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Speaker 2: era that low.

583
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Speaker 3: The way he throws, he's got that kind of stuff

584
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Speaker 3: double him.

585
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 5: I wouldn't be shocked.

586
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't put anything by Paul Skemes.

587
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 4: You know, he's got.

588
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 3: That kind of stuff, and you know, this is a

589
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Speaker 3: guy that can die any lineup as we saw in

590
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 3: the WBC. You know, even facing that Dominican lineup was

591
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 3: one of the best I've ever seen. I mean, I

592
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 3: think the only guy that could probably navigate the way

593
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 3: he did is Paul Schemes.

594
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Speaker 1: What's the ceiling for the Pirates because the NL Central

595
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: it's suddenly a pretty good division, isn't it.

596
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, it's true. I mean, Milwaukee's a

597
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 3: really good team. Chicago got a ton better, you know,

598
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 3: in their lineup in that rotation.

599
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Speaker 5: U You know, the Reds, the Reds are good if.

600
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Speaker 3: Hunter Green can come back and be healthy and lead

601
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 3: that staff. You know, bringing in u Ano Suarez is issue.

602
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 3: And then the Buckos are that. I mean, you look

603
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 3: back last year, eighty three wins though got the Reds

604
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 3: into the playoffs. I don't think it's gonna look like

605
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 3: that this year. Probably the eighty seven or eighty eight

606
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 3: maybe get you that final wildcard piece. But I really

607
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 3: do believe if the Pirates stay healthy and they continue

608
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 3: to hit the ball of the ballpark, I believe they're

609
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Speaker 3: going to be in that conversation by the end.

610
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Speaker 5: Of the season.

611
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Speaker 1: Case, as you mentioned, you went the World Baseball Classic

612
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Speaker 1: and what a great tournament that was, especially the last

613
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Speaker 1: couple of games.

614
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Speaker 2: Uh, it's a.

615
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Speaker 1: Shame it wasn't around when you played. I feel very

616
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Speaker 1: confident you would have been on the US team.

617
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Speaker 4: Oh man, I wish I would have double him.

618
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 5: It was.

619
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Speaker 4: It was one of the greatest experiences.

620
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Speaker 3: I've ever had in my entire life, being with those

621
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Speaker 3: guys and and being being able to part of it,

622
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 3: and you know, being the you know, in the hitters

623
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Speaker 3: meetings every day and working with those guys in the cages,

624
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 3: but being around.

625
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 4: The pitchers too, and you know, you get really close

626
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Speaker 4: to those guys you're you're playing with for Team USA.

627
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 5: You got USA on your chest. You know.

628
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Speaker 4: It was incredible and I.

629
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Speaker 3: Could only imagine what it would have been like.

630
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Speaker 5: As a player.

631
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Speaker 3: I mean as a coach, it was phenomenal. As a player, man,

632
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Speaker 3: I would have been so honored to have been able

633
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 3: to have a chance to play in the WBC. And

634
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Speaker 3: I feel like now double them. As you saw, it's

635
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 3: only getting bigger and bigger, you know as we go on.

636
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Speaker 2: Should they move it to midseason?

637
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Speaker 4: Probably, you know, what do you think?

638
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 3: I think so, just because you know the pitchers are

639
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 3: you know, a couple of times we had our hands tied,

640
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 3: you know, with teams calling us saying you can't pitch

641
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 3: this guy, you can't pitch this guy, And I'm like,

642
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 3: oh man, if we're in July, it's probably all hands

643
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 3: on deck. So yeah, I think the hitters would be different, pitchers.

644
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 5: Guys would be well old machines, and.

645
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 3: We would probably see even a different caliber of baseball.

646
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Speaker 5: See.

647
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't move it because I think the All Star

648
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: Game has run its course beyond anything but tradition. But

649
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: if you did have it at midseason, you'd have to

650
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: have less teams, Like I think you could have an

651
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: eighteen tournament.

652
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 5: And no more teams.

653
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then and then have you know, three round

654
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: robin games, two divisions of four and then the winners play.

655
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Speaker 2: I think that would be it.

656
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 3: I agree and double m. Obviously, you're the biggest hockey

657
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 3: fan in the world. Look, look, I mean I don't

658
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 3: watch a ton of hockey, but I'll tell you, what

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Speaker 3: was it last year or two years ago when the

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Speaker 3: US and Canada when toe to toe, I was like,

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Speaker 3: this is incredible, this is incredible. So I think it

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Speaker 3: would bring more baseball fans too. That aren't necessarily baseball fans,

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Speaker 3: just to watch the countries.

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Speaker 5: Go at it.

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Speaker 2: The hockey's find the forma.

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Speaker 1: Maybe baseball will just have a bit more of an

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Speaker 1: uptick because I think it. I think at mid season.

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Speaker 1: I mean, part of me doesn't like it, but I

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Speaker 1: know it would be even better. And like you said,

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Speaker 1: for the pitchers, for everybody, it'd be all hands deck.

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Speaker 2: Case.

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Speaker 1: This has been great, by the way. I ran into

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Speaker 1: the retired Upper Saint Clair football coach Jim Render the

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Speaker 1: other day and he said, you can come to practice

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Speaker 1: if you want. I know they threw out the one time,

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Speaker 1: but he says it's okay, and don't forget. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: call you and we're gonna go to a game this year.

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Speaker 1: But we got to sit in the fancy seats, my treat,

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Speaker 1: but we got to sit, frankly, Case away from the

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Speaker 1: hoy poy.

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Speaker 2: I know you're a man of the people. Me not

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Speaker 2: as much, Double m.

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Speaker 4: I'm in there.

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Speaker 3: You just let me know and I'll be sitting right

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Speaker 3: next year. I love that go ship puckle game with you,

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Speaker 3: and I hopefully they're winning so you can give them

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Speaker 3: big love this year.

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Speaker 1: Brother, I'm trying, Case I'm trying. That's Sean Casey. I'm

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Speaker 1: Mark Madden one oh five ninety X a Pirates home opener,

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Speaker 1: and they're honoring Bill Mazerowski, who passed away not too

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Speaker 1: long ago. They're honoring him before the game. The Mass patch,

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Speaker 1: the number nine patch on the jerseys, also makes his

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Speaker 1: debut today. That makes me real happy. I'm a Bill

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Speaker 1: Mazarowski guy. That's how I grew up. He was my

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Speaker 1: sports when I was like eight nine years old, wrote

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Speaker 1: to him, sent me an autographed postcard, met him, interviewed him.

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Speaker 2: Honored to have done so.

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Speaker 1: Nobody turned the double play like Mass and he got

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Speaker 1: the biggest hit in Pirate's history. He provided the biggest

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Speaker 1: moment in Pittsburgh sports history period, triggered the biggest upset

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Speaker 1: in MLB history with that series winning home run, walk

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Speaker 1: off bottom of the ninth, ten to nine, Game seven

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Speaker 1: against the Yankees. It's great that today we take time

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Speaker 1: to remember Bill Mazeroski. The first hour of the show

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Speaker 1: brought to was of course by Shandorovich, Shendroovic and Fishman.

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Speaker 1: They got your back, not your wallet. Now it's time

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Speaker 1: for the trifectum, and it's three things I didn't like

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Speaker 1: about last night's Penguins lost at Tampa. Number three, They

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Speaker 1: were going so hard in the prior to games, and

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Speaker 1: really in the first period of night's game, but they

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Speaker 1: took the foot off the gas, played okay for a bit,

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Speaker 1: then noticeably decelerated and got sloppy. On top of that,

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Speaker 1: Number two, the stars were invisible and Sid doesn't look

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent. And number one the goaltending, same old story,

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Speaker 1: same old song and dance. The goaltending never steals a game.

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Speaker 1: I'm not blaming, but any better. It really isn't much

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Speaker 1: different than it was with Jari. It really isn't much

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Speaker 1: different than it was with Jari. But at least you

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Speaker 1: go out from under that contract.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's funny that Koutrov goal from a bad angle.

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Speaker 1: People say that's a great snipe by Koutrov, maybe because

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Speaker 1: it's Kutrov. To me, it's just a bad goal from

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Speaker 1: a bad angle. So that's the trifecta brought us by

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Speaker 1: Danny's Peach and Hogi's family owned and operated since nineteen

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Speaker 1: sixty that Standy's.

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Speaker 2: On Route eighty eight in Bethel Park.

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Speaker 1: Us. Staying with the Penguins, we had a Great Penguins

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Speaker 1: viewing party at Pittsburgh Brewing Company in Creighton last night.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting killed on Twitter because Pirates are gonna be good.

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Speaker 1: Fat ass. You were wrong about the Griffin extension, fat ass.

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Speaker 1: They have Gryffin and Skiins on the team at the

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Speaker 1: same time, fat ass. I get none of that in person.

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Speaker 1: Everybody is lovely to be in person, but under the

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Speaker 1: anonymity of Twitter, the sociopathic minority that resides there, and

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Speaker 1: most of that is jen whatever the frigate is, they're

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Speaker 1: the hate just spews. But honestly, and I'll say it again,

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Speaker 1: I'm not challenging anybody, because that wouldn't be wise at

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Speaker 1: sixty five years old. But nobody has the balls to

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Speaker 1: talk like that to my face. And I know that

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Speaker 1: because nobody ever has except the irs. The irs, they

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Speaker 1: got no problem with sticking it to me. I paid

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Speaker 1: my taxes yesterday. My account Paul RUDOI I met with him. Yikes.

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Speaker 1: I was numb yesterday. I couldn't talk about it on

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Speaker 1: the show yesterday. Now I'm still numb, but I'm just broke,

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Speaker 1: well not broke, but you get the idea, a big,

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Speaker 1: big bite because I write for the trip, and I'm

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Speaker 1: a freelancer for them, not a freelance. I'm under contract,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not an employee per se, so I get

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Speaker 1: paid with taxes being taken out. Then I go to

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Speaker 1: make all that up at year's end. And like I said,

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Speaker 1: I'm not broke, but it certainly was a big bite.

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Speaker 1: What else were not going on today? We got we

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Speaker 1: got Tim Benz joining me at at three point thirty.

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Speaker 1: Of course we're leading up to the Bucco game, the

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Speaker 1: debut of Connor Griffin. Somebody texted me, tweeted me, rather,

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Speaker 1: are you worried that the Griffin contract hasn't been announced yet? No? No,

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Speaker 1: everybody says it's a done deal. I don't think they

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Speaker 1: would have called Griffin up if there wasn't an agreement

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Speaker 1: in principle, a verbal agreement. And I think there's something

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Speaker 1: about there's some kind of date where you have to

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Speaker 1: I don't know, they can still get an extra first

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Speaker 1: round pick if he stays in the league the whole

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Speaker 1: year and finishes what is a top three in MVP,

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Speaker 1: top three and Rookie of the Year something like that,

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Speaker 1: But I believe there's a date that you have to

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Speaker 1: wait to comply with and again he's here regardless.

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Speaker 2: But but I'm confident.

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Speaker 1: Point is, I'm confident that contract is gonna get done.

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Speaker 1: I'm not too concerned about the draft picks down the

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Speaker 1: road u A three, three four one two WSDX. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna compare Pittsburgh's three sports teams in just a moment,

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Speaker 1: and we got Tim Benz at three thirty one oh

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Speaker 1: five to nine.

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Speaker 2: That's the sound of another set