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Speaker 1: Show a man who knows where can get a really

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Speaker 1: good cup of coffee. Former mayoral candidate for the City

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Speaker 1: of Cincinnati, minister and business owner and West End resident,

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Speaker 1: Corey Bowman. Good to have you back on this show,

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Speaker 1: my friend. Always a pleasure hearing from.

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Speaker 2: You, Brian. Thank you so much as always for having me.

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Speaker 2: And it was awesome listening to former Congressman brad Winstrip

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Speaker 2: You had some awesome insight at your previous show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we had fun to go even said that, because

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Speaker 1: that was a really good time talking with you back

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Speaker 1: and forth about all those issues. So I hope the

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Speaker 1: rest of the listening audience appreciate it as well. It's

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Speaker 1: good to have someone doing a back and forth and

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Speaker 1: bouncing ideas off of each other, and also someone who

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Speaker 1: tends to agree with you pretty much on everything. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Corey Bowman, let's start with your new podcast, produced by

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Speaker 1: Joe Strecker. Of course you're doing the Corey Bowman Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Let me just ask you out loud, what's your hope?

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Speaker 1: What do you hope to address in your podcast? I mean,

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Speaker 1: what's your vision for the future. What do you expect

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Speaker 1: Corey Bowman.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So for one, thank you, Joe, I know he's listening.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for putting these podcasts together and

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Speaker 2: for all he does for this show. It's just so

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Speaker 2: important all the issues that you guys discuss every morning.

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Speaker 2: But as far as this goes, you know, I think

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Speaker 2: we live in a world to where it's only during

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Speaker 2: so funny while I was driving him to school this

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Speaker 2: mayoral candidate. He said, Dad, I don't think you're running

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Speaker 2: just told him we can still have a voice, and

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Speaker 2: it's still important to always voice your opinions, and it's

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Speaker 2: always important to bring these things in the conversation. You know.

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Speaker 2: doing some petition signings there, and a lot of them

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Speaker 2: are entering into primaries that they don't necessarily think that

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Speaker 2: think that's important not only with this podcast, but every

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Speaker 2: the city and the county and the state. It's important

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Speaker 2: to always have your voice heard well.

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Speaker 1: And you're someone here. They always talk about the community,

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Speaker 1: and of course when I say they, I'm talking about me,

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Speaker 1: the left wing of the political spectrum, whatever. But the

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Speaker 1: and need with the community needs this. The community needs that. Well,

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Speaker 1: Corey Bauman, you and your family are in the community,

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Speaker 1: your business is in the community, your church is in

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Speaker 1: the community. You just bucked the narrative, this one solid,

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Speaker 1: for example, keeping the damn roads repaired, simple ask, easy

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Speaker 2: You're absolutely right. You know, elected officials are supposed to

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Speaker 2: It's always about the next step, it's always about climbing

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Speaker 1: And then this concept of you know your son's coming,

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Speaker 1: We're going to go about your business while prioritizing other

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Speaker 2: No, you're absolutely right, and you know you mentioned the cameras.

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Speaker 2: all number one when it comes to these cameras, you

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Speaker 2: The problem is is that there haven't been proactive in

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Speaker 2: Now that we just saw that Queen Irie, eleven year

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Speaker 2: same thing with the potholes. It's the same thing with

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Speaker 2: It's like they only wait until the wheel gets squeaky

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Speaker 1: The pressure to do that, though, is wanting in the

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Speaker 2: No, it absolutely does. And also this is why it's

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Speaker 2: You know, I get it. You know, we're in a

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Speaker 2: you don't want to be in trouble. Well, that's exactly

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Speaker 1: Yes, oh you can pipe dream about that all day long.

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Speaker 1: But if only one at a four registered voter shows

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Speaker 1: same thing over and over. Definition of stupidity. Corey Bumma

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Speaker 1: Eight nineteen. If you have k City talk station, We're

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Speaker 1: Happy Friday. Hope you got good plans over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Bright the time, I was way a former mayoral candidate,

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Speaker 1: hundred Bay Miller Street. There's a plug for your business. Corey.

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Speaker 1: I'm happy to do it. Don't get anything in return

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Speaker 1: doing a podcast, the Corey Bowman Podcast, produced by executive

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Speaker 1: producer of this program, Joe Stracker. Now, Corey, I understand

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Speaker 1: we've got some budgeting problems going on in the City

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Speaker 1: I'm scratching my head over this. When I suppose the

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Speaker 1: What's happening right now, Corey Bowmen?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I think probably one of the biggest issues

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Speaker 2: biggest one of the biggest things is infrastructure. Right, we

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Speaker 2: the dividends. That's upwards of fifty four million dollars at

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Speaker 2: What happens is that you know, if you don't know

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Speaker 2: Same thing that we're seeing with the cameras. You know,

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Speaker 2: And that's not what's happening from city Hall right now.

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Speaker 2: That's not a guarantee that it's going to be done

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Speaker 1: Well, and let's just go back to the failure of

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Speaker 1: the child, the first young eleven year old that was

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Speaker 1: promised the cameras originally, no, not that cameras are going

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Speaker 1: So they should have started doing it back when they

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I talked with the contract worker that you know

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Speaker 2: We have every ability and the knowledge of the city

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Speaker 2: So there's too many middlemen in the process. That comes

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Speaker 2: We need to get to the root of the issue.

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Speaker 2: We need to hire the best. I talked with union

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Speaker 2: They won't have any purchase labor agreements, they won't be

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Speaker 1: That is corruption exposed right there. And isn't there an

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Speaker 1: I want to know that.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, the open bidding is important, but also what

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Speaker 2: Right So, I don't know if you know, but there

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Speaker 2: all takes work, that all takes labor. That's stuff that

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Speaker 2: we're hoping to build Cincinnati businesses. It's not about overpaying,

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Speaker 2: but it's making sure that the money stays local, right

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Speaker 2: because if the money stays local, it's going to be

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Speaker 2: But that's not being done because of all the red

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Speaker 2: tape that has to be done or trying to find

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Speaker 2: out the best case scenario when it comes to the

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Speaker 1: Corey Bowman and former marri candidate's still active in connection

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Speaker 1: with what he wants to the city, which is what's

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Speaker 1: best for the residents of the entire city. You'll find

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Speaker 1: him in the future in here on the Morning Show.

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Speaker 1: Of course, He's always welcome back The Corey Bowman Podcast