1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Tony Bike Cincy three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati. This 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Dation. 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 2: Welcome back, Sincy three to sixty. Let's kick off our 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 2: number three on a Friday the only way we know 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 2: how to do it. We'll talk some FC Cincinnati with 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 2: the voice of the Orange and Blue, Tom Gallader, joining 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 2: us right now. Tommy, Tommy, Tommy, what's going on? 8 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 3: And we're back after the FEKA break and very excited 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 3: to see the Orange Blue back and action kicking off 10 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 3: a very busy month of April ahead. 11 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the break itself. We talked last week 12 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 2: about the timing of the break because the team was 13 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 2: on a little bit of a skid and then they 14 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 2: find their footing two shorthanded goals to get three points, 15 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: and you kind of wondered, is that something you want 16 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 2: to get right back onto the pitch as quick as 17 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: possible or does the break help this team going through 18 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: that break? 19 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 4: Now? 20 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 2: How do you feel it it helps or or does 21 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: it hurt FC Cincinnati at all? 22 00:00:58,360 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 3: You know, I think we're gonna find out in about 23 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 3: tony nine hours, right when the team takes the pitch. 24 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 5: And Harrison new Jersey against New York Red Bulls. 25 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 3: But I think I go back to what we talked 26 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 3: about last week and the break giving Pat Noon and 27 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 3: his staff the time and the opportunity to look at 28 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 3: what has worked through the first nine games across all 29 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 3: competitions and what has not, and to fix some of 30 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 3: those things and to spend time, you know, on the 31 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 3: pitch together. 32 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 5: Developing in a way. 33 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 3: They really haven't had the opportunity so far since camp 34 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 3: broke because the games have been, you know, so fast 35 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 3: and furious weekend, midweek weekend, mid week weekend, midweek, so 36 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 3: you don't have a whole lot of time to improve 37 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 3: things when that's the case. So I think this break 38 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 3: is very good. I think if you look at its 39 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 3: historically since to start at twenty twenty three, Pat Newons 40 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 3: teams have done really well coming off of FEFA break 41 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 3: nine to one and four. The only time they've lost 42 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 3: coming off fever break was that playoff loss last year 43 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 3: against Miami, So historically they've done really well with the 44 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 3: extra time, And I'll be interested to see how it 45 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 3: plays out tomorrow night. 46 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 2: When you talk about what you can fix and what 47 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: you know you can improve on when you look at 48 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: where this team is at. Are there things that jump out? 49 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 2: It's okay, this is a fix, but it's not something 50 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 2: that's going to take something, you know, completely rewriting who 51 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 2: this team is. Maybe a tweak here, a tweak there. 52 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: What would that look like for this club? 53 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 3: Well, I think part of it is figuring out how 54 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 3: and what your best of the eleven looks like to 55 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 3: get your best eleven players on the pitch all at 56 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 3: the same time, and what tactics does it look like 57 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 3: to get that done. Another question is who is part 58 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 3: of that And Miles Robinson, who is suspended for this 59 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 3: match tomorrow, is not going to be part of the puzzle, 60 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 3: so you won't have him back and we'll wait and 61 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 3: see what the status of romanceone tunnel is. But as 62 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 3: you work towards that, I think it's figuring out sure 63 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 3: would give you the best chance to win. The defense 64 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 3: has been disappointing the last three games after being fantastic 65 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 3: the first six, So I think getting back to where 66 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 3: this team has been that's been part of their identity 67 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:55,679 Speaker 3: under Patent and it is to be a really good 68 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 3: defensive team, and that starts tomorrow to get back to 69 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 3: it and stop leaking goals and the way did in 70 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 3: those last three matches. So I think it starts there 71 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 3: and then you get the attack firing and all cylinders 72 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 3: in a way that they're capable of, and that sets 73 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 3: you up for success. 74 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 2: How difficult is it over the course? Because I feel 75 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 2: like we talk about this all the time. Consistency in 76 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,399 Speaker 2: any sport is important. When you have such a long 77 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 2: season like the MLS is, and then you have international breaks, 78 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 2: you have different types of you have MLS matches, you 79 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 2: have CONCA CAF, you have all these different matches as well. 80 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: How difficult is it to put together consistency over a 81 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: long period of time. It feels like the more we 82 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: learn and the more we watch this, it's more about 83 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 2: how can you handle those moments of adversity and come 84 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: out on the other side of them. 85 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 3: One reality is that many of these teams in Major 86 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 3: League Soccer, with the base on how the calendar works 87 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 3: and how CONCAF Champions Cup slots in, not everybody participate 88 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 3: in Champions Cup of course, right, so the teams that 89 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 3: participate it, and as the calendar is now as it 90 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 3: sits early in a season for MLS team, sure MLS 91 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 3: teams are still find themselves, so that's a little bit 92 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 3: of a disadvantage. And then on top of it, it 93 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 3: creates the scheduled congestion, and historically those MLS teams have 94 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 3: struggled a little bit in the early portion of the 95 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 3: season because of the scheduled congestion and that wrinkle that's 96 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 3: throwing on them. 97 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 5: But listen, every MLS team wants to win champions Cups. 98 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 5: They're gonna go for. 99 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 3: It and throw everything at it and then try to 100 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,119 Speaker 3: make up some of the points that maybe they drop 101 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 3: in the league games at a later time. And certainly 102 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 3: mccony disappointed about the points that. 103 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 5: Were dropped and the way they were dropped. 104 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 3: But now the opportunity comes here in the month of 105 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 3: April to string together some wins and make up for 106 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 3: the points that they didn't get in the month of March. 107 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 3: So yeah, I think certainly it creates the congestion and 108 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 3: it's a different wrinkle that everybody has to deal with. 109 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 3: But the teams to qualify, it's a good thing if 110 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 3: you're involved right, that means you did something right in 111 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 3: the previous seasons. So it's certainly where you want to be. 112 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 3: But it's a factor and something that the teams that 113 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 3: are involved have to manage. 114 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 2: When you talk about the month of April, how different 115 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 2: does that look just from a scheduling standpoint, Because we've 116 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 2: talked leading into March and through March about how congested 117 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 2: it does get. Does that ease now going into the 118 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: month of April, does it get back to a little 119 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 2: bit of a sense of normalcy? 120 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 3: It does, especially with like a regular match week build up, 121 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 3: as has been the case here and will be the 122 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 3: case the next couple of weeks. So you don't have 123 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 3: a midweek game again until the second half of the 124 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 3: month of New York City. So they're on the road 125 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 3: tomorrow against New York, then they'll be on the road 126 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 3: next week against Toronto. That's a regular week build up, 127 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 3: so they can find a bit of routine, and the 128 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 3: same thing the following week when they get ready to 129 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 3: come home for Chicago. After that match, though, you go 130 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 3: to New York City and play MIDWEK game and then 131 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 3: you welcome Red Bulls back to TQOF Stadium to round 132 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 3: out the month. But think about this, over the course 133 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 3: of April thirty days, right, I think it'd be what 134 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 3: twenty five days or something between the all the games, 135 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 3: but over the course of the whole month of April, 136 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 3: they'll play five matches in fifteen days. 137 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 5: Leading into that international. 138 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 3: Break, they played five matches, so certainly less congestion, more 139 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 3: chance to breed and to find your identity and you're 140 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 3: out who you are in twenty twenty six. 141 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 2: For this club. I know Patt Nowan talked about the 142 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 2: fight and he was happy and encouraged by the fight 143 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 2: that this team showed in their last win. How important 144 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 2: is that because it's one thing when in sports you 145 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 2: go through skids, it's easy sometimes to just kind of 146 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 2: lower your head and it's just not going our way, 147 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: and that's snowballs. But the fight that this team showed 148 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 2: and the last time we were able to see them, 149 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: how important now is that to carry that over into 150 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 2: this next match? 151 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's huge. I think you have to 152 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 3: build upon it. The good news is we'll start with 153 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 3: eleven players and hopefully finish that way. Whereas in that match, 154 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 3: you know, the grit and the fight and that passion 155 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 3: that we saw a lot of it came for the 156 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 3: final thirty minutes once Miles Robinson was sent off. So no, 157 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 3: I think it's a very big piece piece of the 158 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 3: puzzle to have a little bit of pride coming out 159 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 3: of that and say, okay, we write at a ship 160 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 3: a little bit, but it wasn't perfect. Now, what did 161 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,559 Speaker 3: we work on the last two weeks to improve and 162 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 3: how does that translate against the Red Bulls team that's 163 00:06:58,480 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 3: been up and down. They had a man sent off 164 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 3: previous match as well, and they conceded six goals and 165 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 3: got thumped. So you know, Red Bulls have been up 166 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 3: and down a little bit. They're trying to find their 167 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 3: identity with the new manager. So I think, you know, 168 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 3: the reality is that you got to come out. You 169 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 3: got to pick up where you left off two weeks 170 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 3: ago and like I said, start to string some results together. 171 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 5: And put yourself in a position in the Eastern. 172 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 2: Conference from just a sheer keys to victory standpoint. We 173 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 2: hit on this each and every week ahead of a match. 174 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: What are your biggest keys for FC Cincinnati Tomorrow night we'll. 175 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,239 Speaker 5: Talk about Tony and the defense has to improve. 176 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 3: The last three games, way too many goals conceded, you know, 177 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 3: very very frustrating for the whole team and the coaching staff. 178 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 5: There's no question about that. 179 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 3: So I think, you know, you solidify things defensively, but 180 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 3: there's been some battles lost in the midfield. So whomever 181 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 3: pat runs out there in this match against New York, 182 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 3: and he has very talented options, it's a matter of Okay, 183 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 3: let's figure out who gives us. 184 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 5: The best chance to win those midfield battles. Because Sammy 185 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 5: Guede is. 186 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 3: Very good of being a Wolbodoe and very good Pavel Buca. 187 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 3: You know, obviously Evander will be up top trying or 188 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 3: you know, at leading the head of the midfielders, trying 189 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 3: to set up the attack. And you could tell Evander's 190 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 3: a player right now that wants to get on track. 191 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 3: You know, MVP candidate from the last year, you know, 192 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 3: one of the best players over the last couple of 193 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 3: years in majorly soccer, and he had a slow start 194 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 3: to the year and then part. 195 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 5: Of that was due to his injury. So I think 196 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 5: getting a Vander going. 197 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 3: So if FC since can win those battles in the midfield, 198 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 3: then I think they're in a position to win. 199 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 2: I do have to ask you Andre Tirilla earlier this 200 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 2: week story becomes another homegrown player from FC Cincinnati that 201 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 2: has gone through the player pathway from the f C 202 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 2: Cincinnati Academy all the way to now a contract with 203 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 2: FC Cincinnati. Talk a little bit about just the academy 204 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 2: and how that is kind of bearing fruit already for 205 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: FC Cincinnati. 206 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean this is in Red Bulls. 207 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 3: You know, the opponent tomorrow is as good of an 208 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 3: example in major soccer as anybody who have used their 209 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 3: academy to leverage success in bringing players through who contribute 210 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 3: to the teams behind a team like New York because 211 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 3: they've been done as long, but they've. 212 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 5: Done a great job. 213 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 3: But Larry Sunderlynn and building the academy and then Chris 214 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 3: Albright and his staff and monitoring these guys through the 215 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 3: academy process and then getting that minutes with f c 216 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 3: Ccincinnati two. But I'll tell you, since Andre arrodn't remember 217 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 3: his older brother's Steph, he's on the first team as well, 218 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 3: and step arrived and they were excited about and then 219 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 3: it brought Andre on and everybody's raving about what Andre 220 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 3: could do as a center back. And you know, we've 221 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 3: seen some minutes from him. He came out a loan 222 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 3: from the two team four times this year. Well that's 223 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 3: the max. So then you know, the reality is that 224 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 3: they want to play him again, he has to be 225 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 3: on his homegrown deal and a first team contract, So 226 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 3: now that's the case. But this is a guy that 227 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 3: I think FC Cincinnati fans should be keeping an eye 228 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 3: on and should be really really excited to watch grow 229 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 3: in the future. Just seventeen years old and has a 230 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 3: very very high ceiling. Certainly someone who should be a 231 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 3: starter for year and a big part of this team's success. 232 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 6: Do you have. 233 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 2: Anything set for when you touch down in New York 234 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 2: that you'll you'll cross off the list tonight? 235 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 3: I mean, this is as routine of a trip as 236 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 3: they come. 237 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 5: And Kevin and I. 238 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, big milestone tomorrow for our boy 239 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 3: with Kevo oh match day number three hundred for time. Wow, 240 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 3: I got to go get a cake or something for 241 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 3: him having a booth. So there's a great bakery there 242 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 3: near where we stay. We I mean, we've been there 243 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 3: so many times for matches. This is the twenty first 244 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 3: time including USL that these teams have played each other, 245 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 3: so they've seen each other quite a bit. I think 246 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 3: it's a fifteenth time with all the games that ever 247 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 3: since I he's played at at Red Bull Arena because 248 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 3: they played New York City there a few times, and 249 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 3: they played I think Montreal there during the during COVID, 250 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 3: so yeah, or Toronto maybe one of those teams either way. 251 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, we've been there quite a bit. We know, we 252 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 5: know the neighborhood well. 253 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 3: And let me tell you, I just got email right 254 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 3: before we came on as we get ready to leave, 255 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 3: just coincidentally from the bagel shop. You know bagels out 256 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 3: in New York and New Yority're a little different, right 257 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 3: sending me their new menu items. 258 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 5: Like you think that's a coincidence. I go there every time. 259 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 3: There'll be pictures on my social media that O bagel 260 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 3: over there in hobook and is my spot, so I'll 261 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 3: always stop in it. Maybe I'll grab a few extra 262 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 3: up and by the house when I get home off 263 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 3: the charter on Saturday night Sunday morning, especially for you, 264 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 3: you little Eastern egg, I can leave out front for. 265 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 2: Especially coming off ideally three more points before I let 266 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 2: you go. The Guardians off to a good start, sitting 267 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 2: on top of the division at four and three, and 268 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 2: the Browns we got a little quarterback controversy. Bruin sa 269 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 2: Door Sanders is gonna wear number two, Deshaun Watson maybe 270 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 2: the starting quarterback. What do you think plays out now 271 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 2: with your Cleveland Browns at the quarterback position? 272 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 3: First and foremost, We're two hours away from opening day 273 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 3: in Cleveland and the Guardians come. 274 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 5: Off a rit. 275 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 3: I mean, look, you play Seattle and the Dodger's pretty 276 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 3: good and you come home four and three. You gotta 277 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 3: be feeling pretty good about that Chase. The Laud's been hot, 278 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 3: so that's awesome. Listen, Bill Browns, No Browns fair. 279 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 5: That's fair. 280 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 2: I like that A very down the middle answer as 281 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 2: to Deshaun Watson or Shador Sanders. Tommy g I know 282 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 2: you guys are getting ready to travel out, so we 283 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 2: appreciate the time. As always on a Friday, always get 284 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 2: the three points and we'll do it again next week. 285 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 5: Another choice, my friend, look forward to it. 286 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 2: That is Tom Galtter, the voice of FC Cincinnati. We 287 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 2: appreciate his time to kick off our number three. Bob 288 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 2: man Jean from the University of Cincinnati and novacare next 289 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 2: on the home of the Bengals ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati 290 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 2: Sports station. 291 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: Nope is. 292 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 2: Welcome back since he three to sixty hour three. Rolling along, 293 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 2: let's get to our friend Bob man Jean from the 294 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 2: University of Cincinnati and Novacare who joins us each and 295 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 2: every week. Bob, what's going on? How you doing this week? 296 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 4: Tony's doing pretty good, you know, just getting ready for 297 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 4: spring golf and with the golf team, our boys are 298 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 4: hopefully going to qualify for the NSA regionals. They're in 299 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 4: the fifty first place in the nation, so hopefully it'll 300 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 4: continue that way. 301 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 2: So truly, no off season for Bob Manjean, Is that 302 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 2: what you're telling me? 303 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 4: Pretty much? You know, there's just no off season anymore. 304 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 4: You have to deal with, you know, different sports at 305 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 4: different times a year obviously, you know, the basketballs in 306 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 4: footballs now. 307 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 5: Go year round. 308 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 4: Now the golfs and the other Olympic sports, they'll have 309 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 4: their summer seasons off pretty much when school's over. But still, 310 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 4: the roles in the NCAAM have changed so much since 311 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 4: two thousand and four, you just never knows he's going 312 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 4: to be back here by June or July to start 313 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 4: summer conditioning and training. 314 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 2: Also, before we get into our topic today, I know 315 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 2: that the transfer portal window for basketball opens on April seventh, 316 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: how hectic does that time get for you? If guys 317 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 2: are coming in or visiting and you're making sure that 318 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 2: they're got the clean bill of health. What does that 319 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 2: look like for you when that portal does open. 320 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 4: Well, the portal you're already looking You're I mean, obviously 321 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 4: there's a lot of of you know, general managers around 322 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 4: the country for the different teams are already talking to agents. 323 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 4: You know, before the official start of the portal. You're 324 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 4: getting somebody Yeah, as far as you know who who 325 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 4: you might be looking at. So you're trying to get 326 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 4: some information on those kids. Once the portal officially hits, 327 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 4: and obviously the kids are in there and registered for 328 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 4: the portal, so now you can get better information. And again, 329 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 4: like our guys when they come to me and say, hey, 330 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 4: I think I'm going to transfer, and it's like, okay, 331 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 4: sign this release of information. Do what do you want 332 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 4: me to release? You not want me to release? But 333 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 4: you know, again, it's it follows every other hip of guideline, 334 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 4: you know. So it's not like I can just pick 335 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 4: up the phone and say, oh, so and so did this, 336 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 4: or so and so I did that. You know, if 337 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 4: they don't agree for just closure, I just sit here 338 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 4: and say nothing I. 339 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 2: Want to ask, because we could have just kind of 340 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 2: re ran what we talked about last week with blisters 341 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 2: because Nicolodolo is struggling with them again. But I thought 342 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 2: some other national news right now is the news of 343 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 2: what Tiger Woods is going through. And look, I'm on 344 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 2: a smaller version of this because I've gone through many surgeries, 345 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 2: and when surgeries happened, the amount of pain that you're 346 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 2: in is immense and oftentimes unbearable, and even to get 347 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 2: through a sporting event at times can become a big challenge. 348 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 2: So I understand the pain side of things and that 349 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 2: there's a threshold and sometimes the pain exceeds that threshold, 350 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 2: and that's where painkillers can come into the equation. I 351 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 2: can't imagine in your world how difficult that is is 352 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 2: monitoring and when a player is deemed to be fit 353 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 2: to be off of the painkillers. Just walk me through 354 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 2: the process of athletes when you do have to prescribe 355 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 2: painkillers and how you're keeping an. 356 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 5: Eye on that. 357 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 4: Well. I mean, simply put, the FDA has really, as 358 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 4: everybody knows by social media and the media itself, the 359 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 4: FDA has really clamped down on the use of narcopics. 360 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 4: So let's classify one group as narcotics and those percosets 361 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 4: and those type of medications. And there's many institutions now 362 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 4: and physicians. 363 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 5: Who no longer go to that level. 364 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 4: So there's other combinations that can be used which are 365 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 4: non narcotic or lower level of narcotics, so that post surgery, 366 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 4: obviously we watch them very carefully, but a lot of 367 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 4: our docs have gone to some different regiments that aren't 368 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 4: in that family of the percosets, hydrocoding and things like that. 369 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 4: But if you are prescribed those, I mean, it's usually 370 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 4: a big warning on the bottle, do not drive. It 371 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 4: may cause drowsiness, may do this, may do that. So 372 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 4: you know, we assist our student athletes to making sure 373 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 4: that they're managing whatever our physicians give them, to make 374 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 4: sure that they don't put themselves in a situation. And certainly, 375 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 4: and you're reading some of these cases, especially in you know, 376 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 4: the opera alcohol the adult athlete you know, PGA, NFL, 377 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 4: NBA career, they will be like, well, you know, they 378 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 4: not just had a narcotic in their system, but had 379 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 4: alcohol or they had some other substance anytime you start 380 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 4: mixing products, you're asking for nothing but problems. And of 381 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 4: course none of us really know what was in you know, 382 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 4: his system, because we're going to keep that HIPOC compliant 383 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 4: and pretty well hushed. But again, you know, people need 384 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 4: to get tuned into the fact that, you know, the 385 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 4: side effects of narcotics are just opioids are just so 386 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 4: bad that you know, you've got to come up with 387 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 4: a different pain management strategy. And if you do go 388 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 4: on them, then you have to have somebody really watching them, 389 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 4: you know, not just hey, here's a bottle, and you've 390 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 4: been through it with us to where you know, we 391 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 4: help you guide your way through it. And as soon 392 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 4: as we get to day X, hey let's just go 393 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 4: to extra strength tithanol, or let's go to motrin, or 394 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 4: let's go to this and even those medications time and 395 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 4: all interesting studies several years back that if you take 396 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 4: twelve time in all day greater than eleven days, you 397 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 4: can start to see liver changes. If you take motrin 398 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 4: in an eight hundred level motron for more than you know, 399 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 4: ten days, eleven days, fourteen days, you can start to 400 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 4: see change in your gastric system. And you know, I 401 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 4: have got my share of horror stories of athletes who 402 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 4: won't follow our direction and we'll give them a certain medication, 403 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 4: but oh lo and behold, they're going to go over 404 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,239 Speaker 4: to Kroger and buy a big old bottle of two 405 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 4: hundred and fifty milligram motrin and stop start popping you know, 406 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 4: six seven eight motron a day, and so it's going 407 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 4: to blow your stomach out. And then the next thing 408 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 4: you know, you know, you're losing twenty pounds, you know, 409 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 4: feeling well, your stomach is you know, literally got ulcers, 410 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 4: so you know, and it's all over the news. You know, 411 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 4: the number of people who have issues with the pain 412 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,959 Speaker 4: medications after surgery in a lot of positions have finally said, hey, 413 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 4: enough's enough. You know, here, we'll give you this, you know, 414 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 4: we'll give you ask and why and that combination you 415 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,719 Speaker 4: know should work, you know, And it's like in how 416 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 4: many times you know, we would offer an athlete if 417 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 4: they needed some sort of pain suppression on game day, 418 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 4: you know, combine that with the emotion, with some time at. 419 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 5: All, and you know that's it. 420 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 4: No more, I'm a narcotic because you can't risk that, 421 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 4: especially during a game that should never ever happen in 422 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 4: our industry, because, like I said, the f Game multiple 423 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 4: years ago has really come down on the use of 424 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 4: opioids narcotic type medications during participation because it's it's way 425 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 4: too risky. 426 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 2: How do you go about if if there is an 427 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 2: athlete that that you can tell that is now past 428 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 2: that point of should be taking them and perhaps still 429 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 2: is and and I know it's it's obviously not easy, 430 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,479 Speaker 2: because addiction is not easy, But what are the steps 431 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 2: that that would you would take if you're kind of 432 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 2: over that threshold with an athlete and you know they're 433 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 2: still using those those painkillers, what what kind of steps 434 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 2: do you have to take after that? 435 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 4: Well, that's where you know, athletic trainers are valuable in college, 436 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 4: high school level, and professional level because we hopefully know 437 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 4: pretty much what the athletes are taking and if we 438 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 4: see a situation to where we feel like it's being 439 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 4: used in an excessive amount, we're going to sit down 440 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 4: with the team physicians, orthopedic primary care and we're going 441 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 4: to say, look, you know, here's a strategy we need 442 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 4: to get off of this. We need to do that. 443 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 4: We have used psychologists in the past, we have used 444 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 4: pain management physicians in the past, you know, and again 445 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,959 Speaker 4: you're trying to have a team approach of people who 446 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 4: can help this person, you know, lean off of them, 447 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 4: or get an understanding of here are other options. Let's 448 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 4: keep a close eye on it and try these other options. 449 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 4: So I think you're not just going to have one 450 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 4: person say hey, you've got to be done, this is it, 451 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 4: it's over. You've got to have the whole team there, 452 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 4: you know, wherever they're I mean, if it's cecil therapists involved, 453 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 4: and you have a cycil therapist out, a trainer, the 454 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 4: primary care team physician, the orthopedic surgeon, the team's counselor 455 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 4: so that everybody together is pulling the boat in the 456 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 4: right direction and helping this person to get off them. 457 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 4: Because the reason they get hooked on them is because 458 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 4: one we're asking to play sports. Sports is an industry 459 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 4: where you are going to get hurt, and then how 460 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 4: do we continue to have you participate unsurgical while you're 461 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 4: still on your going some low levels of pain or 462 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 4: medium levels of pain. And I know there's a lot 463 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 4: of people out there saying, well, they shouldn't be playing 464 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,959 Speaker 4: at all when there's kids who don't even tell us 465 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 4: what they're feeling or what they're like, and so we're 466 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 4: sometimes not sometimes most of the time we're at the 467 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 4: mercy of the athlete telling us exactly what's going on. 468 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 4: And of course we can do blood work. We've done 469 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 4: that blood work just to make sure what the levels are, 470 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 4: what your kidneys are, what your liver is and I 471 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 4: tend to be a little more aggressive with that in 472 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,479 Speaker 4: terms of if I feel one of my student athletes are, 473 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 4: you know, maybe using something a little more than I 474 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 4: want them to, we can get the blood where I 475 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 4: can check different levels within the blood, the kidney system, 476 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 4: liver system, and make sure that they're not causing themselves 477 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 4: to have a problem. And I'm also not one to say, hey, look, 478 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 4: if we can't manage this, you're done playing until we 479 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 4: all come to a plan that allows you to participate 480 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 4: without any of this, you know. And again that's one 481 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 4: of the dangers of playing sports is you're going to 482 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 4: get hurt, and when you get hurt, you're going to 483 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 4: look for methods of relieving my quote unquote pain that 484 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 4: yet still compete. And it's finny, Tony, it's not just 485 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 4: the professional athlete, the college athlete. I had a patient 486 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 4: come in two weeks ago. Well, I'm playing pickleball. You know, 487 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 4: everybody's playing pickaball. I love pickleball. It's making me more 488 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 4: patients than anything in the world right now. And the 489 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 4: bottom line is, you know, well, my foot's been hurt 490 00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 4: and so I've just been loaned up on time and all. 491 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 4: And it's a way mine. Let's call doctor X and 492 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 4: you get an X range. Sure enough, you broke your foot. Ye, 493 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 4: So you can take all the time and all you want. 494 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 4: And you've been trying to play through it for three weeks. 495 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 4: And the bottom line is, it's not just professional athletes 496 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 4: through the college athletes. It's the day to day recreational 497 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 4: athlete who want to treat themselves and start taking stuff 498 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 4: and then the next thing, you know, they never get 499 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 4: it diagnosed right, and now it becomes a pretty big 500 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 4: problem for him. 501 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 2: That too, like and to me, there's such a fine 502 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 2: line because it's one thing, Okay, you have a surgery, 503 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 2: you kind of have a roadmap of when that pain 504 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 2: is going to last. The hard part for me is 505 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 2: playing through pain for a lot of players, because there 506 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 2: are players and you know that's very well, you know, 507 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 2: there are players that don't want to diagnose an injury 508 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 2: or don't want to diagnose a concussion because that would 509 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 2: mean they're going to lose their spot while they're recovering 510 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 2: and they may never get that spot back. So how 511 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 2: difficult is that line to walk of player wants to play, 512 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 2: he needs something to get through the pain to play, 513 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 2: and you don't want to put them at risk for 514 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 2: a greater injury versus, yes, we can give something to 515 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 2: alleviate some of the pain or block some of the 516 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 2: pain until a certain amount of time. How hard is 517 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 2: that line to navigate because all of these athletes want 518 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,479 Speaker 2: to go out there and compete, and you want them 519 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 2: to be open with you about how they feel. But 520 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 2: at the same time, you don't want them to just 521 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 2: the clure to hide something because it could mean less 522 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 2: playing time. 523 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 4: That's a really fine line. And you know, number one 524 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 4: thing we say in healthcare, especially in athletics, really throughout 525 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 4: every level of athletics is, you know, do not do 526 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 4: more harm. So the bottom line is, if I've got 527 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 4: an athlete who, let's say, has a very minor injury 528 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 4: and they just need a little bit of help getting 529 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 4: through it, there are options that's a low level, you know, 530 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 4: lower level type of medications. Once it gets to the 531 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 4: point where, hey, if we let you play today, sure 532 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 4: and give you this medication, but you know we're now 533 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 4: going to risk making it worse. So and again not 534 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 4: to be you know, idealistic about it. You know, we 535 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 4: never want anybody to play with pain per se. But 536 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 4: we know that that's not the case. So you have 537 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 4: to work with your physicians. You have to work with 538 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 4: the athlete and say what's the safest medication to give 539 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 4: to allow them to feel comfortable to participate. But the 540 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 4: athlete is part of that equation, a major part of 541 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 4: that equation because they might to me, like you said, 542 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 4: you know, I mean, let's be honest, I love you 543 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 4: to death. You're one of the toughest quarterbacks we had here, 544 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 4: and you'd get on my butt if I if myself 545 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 4: or Colismo didn't find a way to get you in 546 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 4: the game. And there were things that we helped you 547 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,239 Speaker 4: with to get through it. And again here you are, 548 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 4: how many years later, being a successful radio broadcaster, and 549 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 4: we didn't no harm in the long run. So you 550 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 4: know that's what we have to see it and do, 551 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 4: is we have to look at what is the injury? 552 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 4: How can we participate? What would you like us to do, athlete? 553 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 4: And then hey, here are options? What level do you 554 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 4: want to try? But during the game, what do you 555 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 4: think I'm doing? I mean, how many times you and 556 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 4: I have conferences conversations on the field with hey, how 557 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 4: one today? Are you so okay? 558 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 5: Can you do this? Can you do that? 559 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 4: You know, you and I remember that South Florida game, 560 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 4: and you know the bottom line is, you know, you 561 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 4: ended up having another injury. But the bottom line is, 562 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, in the long run, 563 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 4: you did just fine. It's just you know, there's always 564 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 4: what's my favorite other saying in athletics, my job is 565 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 4: to fix you up for you to go out and 566 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 4: do it again. 567 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 5: Yep, okay, So. 568 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 4: But again, our number one point is we want to 569 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 4: find a way to put the athletes on the field 570 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 4: on the court successfully obviously having them participate in the 571 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 4: decision making, but do no harm. 572 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 2: Bob men the University of Cincinnati and novacare you're the best. Bob, 573 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 2: have a great weekend. We'll talk again next week. 574 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 5: Thank you, Thank you, Tony. 575 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 2: That is Bob Manjean, University of Cincinnati Novercare look. Finding 576 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 2: time for physical therapy doesn't have to be a challenge 577 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 2: because with over twenty three locations throughout Greater Cincinnati, Novercare 578 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 2: Rehabilitation makes it easy to get the care you need 579 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 2: where you need it. From athletics at the University of 580 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 2: Cincinnati to average folks looking to live life without pain, 581 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 2: Novacare's experts have seen it all. Find the center near 582 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 2: you at novacare dot com today. Plenty more still to 583 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 2: go since he three to sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati 584 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 2: Sports Station, No scripts. 585 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: No filters, just pure sports talk Moegar today at three 586 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: pm on ESPN fifteen. 587 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 2: Thirty when you saw Welcome Back Cincy three sixty. Moeger 588 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 2: standing by in Indianapolis will join us for quick hits, 589 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,959 Speaker 2: and just a few moments before we get to any 590 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 2: of that, it is time for today's O'Connor at Chani 591 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 2: and Levy Injury Report, brought to you by O'Connor at 592 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 2: Chani and Levy Attorneys. You know a Tony's you trust, 593 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 2: visit oh al dash Law dot com. Obviously, the big 594 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 2: injury news here is that if Nick Lodolo left his 595 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 2: first rehab start yesterday due to a flare up of 596 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 2: the blister on his left index finger. After retiring his 597 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 2: first eight batters on forty pitchers, striking out four, he 598 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 2: exited the game with two outs in the third inning, 599 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 2: and as Charlie Goldsmith told us earlier today, Austin, he's 600 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 2: gonna go to Texas and they're gonna meet and everything's 601 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 2: on the table. 602 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, Lodolo is in Texas and has already talked to 603 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 5: the media, Charlie just a few minutes ago saying that 604 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 5: Lodolo feels very frustrated, and he said he has tried 605 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 5: every known remedy and we'll keep experimenting. He has to 606 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 5: be able to compete at this level, and not being 607 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 5: able to spin your slider impacts that he hopes to 608 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 5: play catch in the next day or two. 609 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 2: Okay, So. 610 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 5: I don't know. I wish I understood more about you know, 611 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 5: why are you playing catch? 612 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 4: Right? 613 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 2: Let's just shut it down for a couple of days. 614 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 5: I don't understand that. 615 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 2: I guess maybe in catch you doesn't need to cut 616 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 2: off that breaking. 617 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,479 Speaker 5: Ball at all. I guess keep the arm loose, keep 618 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 5: the shoulder and the elbow all. 619 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 2: Right, Yep, that is today's O'Connor and Shotty and Levy 620 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 2: injury report. We run through a couple more of these, 621 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 2: uh draft comparisons. Let me just give you a list 622 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 2: of NFL players, and you tell me which of these 623 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 2: players you would insert on today's Bengals roster to make 624 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 2: them better? 625 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 5: Immediately? You ready, I thought we were doing comparisons. These are, 626 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 5: but I'm just gonna give you the comparisons. Oh, you're 627 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 5: giving me the current NFL players. 628 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 2: Or former yes? Oh okay, all right, So listen to 629 00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 2: these names and tell me who makes the Bengals better 630 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 2: or the best right now? Reggie Bush, I'm and Ross 631 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 2: Saint Brown yes, Cooper Cup yes, Vernon Davis yes, Darnell right, 632 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 2: Nick Benito yes, Abdull Carter yes, Fred Warner yes, Christian 633 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 2: Gonzales yes, Trent McDuffie yes, Buddha Baker yes. Okay, which 634 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 2: one of those players would you rather? Would you want 635 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 2: the most? 636 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 5: Probably? Nick Benito? 637 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 2: Okay? Nick Benito's comparison in this year's draft, r vel 638 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 2: Reese al, I'm sorry, not r vel Reese. David Bailey. 639 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 2: R vel Reese has comped to Abdul Carter. Not bad. 640 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 5: I would say more Micah Parsons, but okay. 641 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 2: Sonny Styles, Fred Warner, yeah please, Jamal McCoy is Christian Gonzales, 642 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 2: all right? Mansor Delaine is Trent McDuffie. So you're calling 643 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 2: him Delaine today? 644 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 5: Yep. 645 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 2: I've went back after listening to others. Francis Maluiino, you 646 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 2: can finally take coaching. Francis Maliinoa. Darnell right, yeah, darnelt right, 647 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 2: That's that's an interesting one. He's he's okay, he's fine. 648 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 2: And I feel like from a Bengals perspective, you'd ask 649 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 2: me you can have Darnell right. I guess I would 650 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 2: say yes, just because of the youth and the upside. 651 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 2: I don't know though, left tackle right not right tackle? Yea, yeah, 652 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 2: what about uh? I'm in Ross Saint Brown and mackay 653 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 2: Lemon Beast, Cooper Cup and Carnell Tate, and then of 654 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 2: course Jeremiah Love is Reggie Bush. I mean, those are 655 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 2: some really, that's what he is like, Those are some. 656 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 2: Those are some serious comparisons to put on these first rounders. 657 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 5: Well, I mean they don't they don't necessarily do comparisons 658 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,479 Speaker 5: to guys like you know, mid level dudes. 659 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 2: Imagine like all due respect, imagine like Jeremiah Love, who's 660 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 2: like a mid level running. 661 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 5: Back, like your player comp is, Yeah, this player man 662 00:32:54,800 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 5: Kenneth Gainwell, Okay, cool, you don't really say, hey, you 663 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 5: know this guy reminds me of Joe Giles Harris. 664 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 2: It doesn't happen very often. I would take any of 665 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 2: these player comparisons in a hard. 666 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 5: And see stead let's compare him to a Hall of Famer. Yeah, 667 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 5: let me just throw Nick Benito out there. Davis is 668 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 5: a little bit of that, like he was. Yeah, he 669 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 5: had some elite years, but I mean sure, I think 670 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 5: I think Kansas City should go get him. Kenyon Sadik cool, 671 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 5: go get him Kansas City and maybe the Bengals. 672 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 2: Now, what I did like about Charlie earlier is he 673 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 2: he seemed a little bit open to the idea of 674 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 2: moving up in the draft. We should all be open 675 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 2: to it everyone, You're right, we should, yes, especially down 676 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 2: there at pay Corps. We're going to Indianapolis next. Mo 677 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 2: is standing by at the Final four. We're gonna talk 678 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 2: to him and what he's got coming up on his 679 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 2: show this afternoon right here on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports. 680 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: Station wk Y Cincinnati and iHeart Radio station Garanteed Human 681 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: ESPN fifteen thirty. 682 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 2: Hard Radio from the Any Weather Heating and dared tem 683 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 2: Star Weathers Center. 684 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 5: Here's your forecast. 685 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 7: Chances for showers, downpours, and maybe even if you rumbles 686 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 7: of thunder will persist through this afternoon as it stays warm. 687 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 7: Temperas will top out around eighty degrees. As you move 688 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,439 Speaker 7: into the overnight hours, we dry out and we start 689 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 7: off our Saturday dry better chances for showers and storms 690 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 7: though as you. 691 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 5: Move throughout the day tomorrow. 692 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 7: That's your nine first morning forecast on Meteorologist Cameron Harden. 693 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 2: This report is sponsored by Capital One. 694 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 5: Capital One is a fount three. 695 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: Now it's time for a quick hits on Tony. 696 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 6: Pikes since he. 697 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 5: Was looking for Mo. 698 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 2: We got Mo just not here in the studio. We 699 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,359 Speaker 2: go to Indianapolis for Mo Ager outside of the Final four. 700 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 2: What's going on? 701 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 6: MO? Just talked to Wes Miller. Really, Yeah, Wes is 702 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 6: in the house. Wes is doing some interviews. He very 703 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 6: politely declined to come on the air. Oh, but I 704 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 6: talked with him for about five minutes and it was 705 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 6: it was nice to see him. 706 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 5: How's he doing? Did you ask him if he's heard 707 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 5: from North Carolina today? 708 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,280 Speaker 6: I did not ask him that. He was very cordial. 709 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,399 Speaker 6: He was very nice. He was very complimentary to your 710 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 6: show and mine wowow, and said that we treated him 711 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 6: fairly okay, and said I'm rooting for you, Wes so y. 712 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 2: It was we're all forty nine fans here, We're all 713 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 2: forty nine er fans. 714 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 6: So he walked away. I made a vow to myself 715 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 6: last year that in like the second half of my life, 716 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 6: or maybe the final third of my life, whatever it is, 717 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 6: I'm gonna be like, I'm going to be more shameless, okay, 718 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,320 Speaker 6: because the people that I know who seem to have 719 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 6: gotten ahead are you know, they're they're shameless about asking 720 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 6: for stuff. So, like, I want to go to the 721 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 6: games tomorrow, and so you have all these coaches around, 722 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 6: and I figured, like I'm gonna start asking him, like 723 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 6: can I have your tickets? 724 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 2: Nice? 725 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 6: Could I have your final four tickets? Because I I 726 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 6: think these games tomorrow night are to be awesome. Yeah, 727 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 6: everybody's excited to go, So every coach gets tickets. I 728 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 6: thought I would ask for tickets because there's like you 729 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 6: can't turn around without running into a basketball coach, yea, 730 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,320 Speaker 6: or I would ask, you know, will you send me 731 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,359 Speaker 6: some gear? And so there's Wes who I'm sure has 732 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 6: no use for all his you see gear, and I 733 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 6: just let him walk away without asking. 734 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 2: Wow, so you're over one. 735 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 5: I did see a post on social media that somebody 736 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 5: went to a good will and found a lot of 737 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 5: his gear. Really, yeash, I don't know if it's true. 738 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:34,919 Speaker 2: What are we doing? 739 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,720 Speaker 5: But it appeared to be stuff that was Wes Miller's. 740 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 6: Well, he don't loved to go. He had some obligation 741 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 6: at the convention. And maybe I'll see if I can 742 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 6: run him down and just ask for either his tickets 743 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 6: to the game, yeah tomorrow, the two games tomorrow, or 744 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:53,919 Speaker 6: if I can get my hands on some of his gear. 745 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 2: Now, outside of your running with Wes Miller, do you 746 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 2: have anyone else scheduled between three and six o'clock to 747 00:36:59,640 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 2: join you? 748 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 6: Jared Calhoun's going to be here. 749 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 5: How about this? 750 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 4: Now? 751 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,879 Speaker 6: Do I ask him his tickets or for some gear? 752 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 2: Well, he should be on the recruiting trail anyway, so 753 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 2: he shouldn't spend time at the game. 754 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 6: Well, I don't get right like these coaches, they'll they'll say, 755 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 6: like I get tickets, I don't go. I'm not going 756 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 6: to the final four lists. I'm coaching in it. So 757 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 6: what do they can't sell them? So surely one of 758 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 6: these coaches has I just I need one. I'm here 759 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 6: by myself. If they give tickets to you, can you 760 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 6: sell them? I could? I could so I don't have 761 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 6: to come home. Uh this once for Austin, Jake Diebler. 762 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:35,439 Speaker 5: Is going to stop. 763 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 6: Oh goodness, yes, So I'm not sure I want his gear, 764 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 6: but Austin May. 765 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know if i'd fit in it. 766 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 6: But yeah, well I don't know. I don't need like 767 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 6: his gear off his back. 768 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 5: He's not leaving programs gear like you know, would he 769 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 5: suit me? 770 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 6: Would he throw some Ohio State stuff in the mail? 771 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 5: I'm excited that you get to talk about Bruce Thornton. 772 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 6: I am because I like Bruce Thorton. And actually we interviewed. 773 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 6: I interviewed Trey Carroll yesterday, which was cool. And Trey 774 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,320 Speaker 6: I said to him before the interview started, and I'm like, 775 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 6: I'm a big uc guy and he's like, I'm sorry, yeah, 776 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 6: and I go, you sorry? I mean, you see, guys, No, 777 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,720 Speaker 6: I'm sorry before what I did, Like, okay, But Bruce 778 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 6: Thornton was here and I missed him, and you. 779 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 2: Should ask him. You should ask Deeves about maybe upgrading 780 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 2: the uh the end of game plays with four seconds 781 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 2: on the clock. I'm getting maybe some better looks. Yeah, 782 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 2: that'd be a good question. Now, among all the craziness, 783 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 2: do you think anywhere in attendance you'll find some blister experts? 784 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 6: You know it's funny because I was sitting in the 785 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 6: hotel room this morning kind of jotting down some ideas 786 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 6: for next week, and I wrote down skincare expert. I 787 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 6: found a video, and I don't know if you guys 788 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,760 Speaker 6: have used this. I found a video from twenty sixteen 789 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,839 Speaker 6: of Al Lighter, who famously threw the two hitch shut 790 00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 6: out against the Mets in the ninety nine Game one 791 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 6: sixty three. And there's an eight minute video of him, 792 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 6: and I haven't had time to watch it, an eight 793 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 6: minute video of him providing advice on how he used 794 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 6: to deal with blisters. So I may, by the way, 795 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 6: are we now calling Nick Lodola mister blister? 796 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 5: I think so, okay, still naturally moist at the moment, 797 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 5: so I might see. 798 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 6: If I can mind this al lighter video for content, 799 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,360 Speaker 6: but also I'll send it to Nick Lodolo so he could. 800 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 2: And maybe nmedy for his blister issues. Reach out to 801 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 2: Alan see how the Reds can best attack Jack later 802 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:38,800 Speaker 2: this weekend. 803 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 6: Maybe that's a good call. 804 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,879 Speaker 2: With Nick Loodolo and the uncertainty and really everything being 805 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,359 Speaker 2: on the table here, you want to make a call 806 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 2: to Trevor Bauer because he's back in the news. He's 807 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:51,760 Speaker 2: gonna pitch in the minors. 808 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:59,919 Speaker 6: So many aren't gonna like this. Compare Colin Kaepernick left 809 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 6: the NFL at the end of the twenty sixteen season, 810 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,479 Speaker 6: and in the first couple of years after he left, 811 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 6: there were very good arguments that he could still help 812 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 6: a team. You know, say, what do you want about 813 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 6: his stance that he took the kneeling like it was 814 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 6: impossible to really convince anybody then that he's not one 815 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 6: of the sixty four best human beings to play quarterback 816 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 6: on the planet. But with the passage of time, you 817 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 6: stopped looking at him as a viable option because it 818 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 6: had been so long since he had played, and so 819 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,839 Speaker 6: even if you had no issue with what he had done, 820 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 6: it was just hard from a football perspective to go, 821 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 6: you know what, this guy who hasn't played in five 822 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 6: or six years is going to help our team. I 823 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,879 Speaker 6: feel the same way about Trevor Bauer. Trevor Bauer last 824 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 6: pitched in a big league game in twenty twenty one. 825 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 6: That is forever ago. He's in his mid thirties. He 826 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,280 Speaker 6: may do something with the Long Island Ducks that compels 827 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,799 Speaker 6: someone to believe that he can get major league hitters out. 828 00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 6: I'm skeptical that he could do that. 829 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 4: Now. 830 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 6: It's less of a conversation about what he did and 831 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,400 Speaker 6: what may or may not have happened to him, depending 832 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 6: on your perspective, and to me, it's more of a 833 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,799 Speaker 6: discussion about his age and how long it's been since 834 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 6: he's actually pitched in a big league game. 835 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 5: Yeah. 836 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 2: The folks at speaking of Jared Calhoun, the folks at 837 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 2: Bearcat Journal have uncovered his contract with the Cincinnati Bearcats. 838 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,320 Speaker 2: Listen to this mo. The contract includes ticket benefits for 839 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 2: men's and women's basketball, football Final four? 840 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 6: How about the final four? 841 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 2: Nothing in there about that? A relocation stipend, a monthly 842 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 2: vehicle stipend, and a membership at a local country club. 843 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 2: Is there anything else you would have added if you 844 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 2: were Jared Calhoun, I don't know. I mean the country 845 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 2: club and the vehicle stipend. That's big time stuff there. 846 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 6: Vehicle stipends, big country club, I guess is cool. If 847 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 6: you're him, are you really playing like shot COMMUNI courses? 848 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 6: So I get it, you're the head coach of a 849 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,120 Speaker 6: big twelve team. You know you're not schlepping out to 850 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 6: Twin Oaks or Newman or you know those Oh I'm 851 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 6: a public corse guys. I don't know. I don't know 852 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,359 Speaker 6: what else there would be, Like how much vacation does 853 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 6: he get? 854 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 2: A good question? 855 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 5: What I don't understand is like do they really have 856 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:20,279 Speaker 5: time to use a membership a country club membership? Well, 857 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 5: the thing is like is they work really hard? As 858 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 5: you know? 859 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 6: Of course, I'm sure he has to play a lot 860 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,879 Speaker 6: of golf with people who can fund the program. True, 861 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 6: but like those level of people, aren't you playing at 862 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 6: whatever course you want? 863 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 2: And then maybe you know you can maybe the kids 864 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 2: and the wife. Maybe that's good for the country club. 865 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:36,320 Speaker 2: They can go to the pool and stuff like that. 866 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 6: Country clubs like you have to like spend a minimum 867 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,759 Speaker 6: amount of money to like eat and stuff like that. Right, 868 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 6: I'm not I don't know anything about the country club life. 869 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,719 Speaker 6: That's just not something that I that resonates with me. 870 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 6: I would wonder about the how much vacation does he get? 871 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 5: Good point? 872 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 6: You're there before we let you go, let me ask 873 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 6: you this, And I guess the guys at Bearcat Journal 874 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 6: have looked into this. What bonuses are in place for 875 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 6: postseason because remember that was a big deal with John 876 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 6: Brann and there was no bonus for winning a tournament game. 877 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,879 Speaker 6: There was a bonus for winning two tournament games. Off 878 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 6: the top of my head, I don't know what point 879 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 6: I could have asked him. 880 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 2: We have to look at that before we let you go. 881 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 2: Who do you like tomorrow? 882 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 5: Now? 883 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 6: I like Illinois, man, and I've talked about this on 884 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 6: this show and ran it past a couple of people 885 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 6: we had yesterday. I love how they out Houston Houston, 886 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 6: and that was sort of the last question about them, 887 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 6: Like can they defend at a really high level? And 888 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,920 Speaker 6: I think playing Iowa and Yukon are sort of similar, 889 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 6: though I think Yukon's better and I like what Illinois 890 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 6: did to them in the second half. I think Illinois 891 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 6: is going to play Michigan. No result in that second 892 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 6: game is going to surprise anybody, I guess, aside from 893 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 6: a blowout. But I thought Michigan was going to win 894 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,320 Speaker 6: this thing at the outset. I still believe they do. 895 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 2: Don't forget Wes Miller beat that team in a scrimmage. 896 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 2: That's true, So don't forget that. 897 00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:57,360 Speaker 7: No. 898 00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 6: I wish I could get ask about some of that 899 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 6: gear YEP and the Michigan game and is tickets and 900 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:04,800 Speaker 6: how to beat the Wolverine. 901 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 2: Good luck on your ticket hunt and have a great show. 902 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 2: MO would appreciate it. Having good weekend week That is Moegar. 903 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 2: This has been since he three sixty. The Mowegar Show 904 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,839 Speaker 2: next on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station, Happy Easter. 905 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 2: Have a great weekend.