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Speaker 1: Now the Red Beret has returned to radio. Curtis Lee

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Speaker 1: guest host the Mark Simone Show on sevent ten wo R. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just came through the tunnel here at Ihearts sevent

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Speaker 2: It's all red.

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Speaker 1: You know, it could be the locker room for the

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Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs Arrowhead Stadium now moving to Kansas. You know,

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Speaker 1: like Dorothy, you know, clicking her red shoes. But I'm

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Speaker 1: festooned all in red, red satine jacket, red beret, feeling

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Speaker 1: like Sanni Claus and also having received a gift to

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Speaker 1: be able to broadcast all of you and our new

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Speaker 1: found talk radio station seven to ten WR that Nancy

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Speaker 1: and I listened to as often as possible. And she

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Speaker 1: joins me right now as she joined me at many

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Speaker 1: times on WABC. No longer our place to be where

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Speaker 1: they were always bashing, Curtis. But I know you're busy

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Speaker 1: getting ready for our trip ahead the next two days,

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Speaker 1: as we'll be dealing with family members on your side

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Speaker 1: of the family. So I'd like it just to give

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Speaker 1: everybody here an idea who you are and where you

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Speaker 1: came from. As long term listeners here at seven to

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Speaker 1: ten war.

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Speaker 2: Well that's a pretty tall order. But let's see. So

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Speaker 2: where I came from. I grew up in Long Island.

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Speaker 2: I graduated from Stonybrook, I went to law school in Brooklyn,

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Speaker 2: and once I got to Brooklyn, I never looked back.

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Speaker 2: You know, I love being in the city, and living

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Speaker 2: in Brooklyn was the first time that I had discovered

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Speaker 2: all of these cats that wander around outside. And that's

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Speaker 2: when I first discovered the concept of the colony cats

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Speaker 2: and all the people out there who were taking care

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Speaker 2: of them, and you know, had like regular groups of

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Speaker 2: outdoor cats because as you know, the shelter system is

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Speaker 2: so filled up, and unfortunately, you know, they're a kill

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Speaker 2: shelter in the city, so you know, they bring them in,

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Speaker 2: they warehouse them a bit, and then after that happens,

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Speaker 2: they euthanize them pretty quickly, even when they don't really

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Speaker 2: have any significant types of problems. So, you know, that's

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Speaker 2: not a great place to be. And I realized that

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Speaker 2: there's this incredible community of people out there who are

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Speaker 2: doing exactly what you know, it's passionate. I'm passionate about,

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Speaker 2: which is taking care of them, realizing that they can

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Speaker 2: live outside as long as you know, it's done within

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Speaker 2: like the structure of the colony, which is making sure

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Speaker 2: they're spade and neutered, providing them with houses, especially in

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Speaker 2: inclement weather like right now where it's cold outside, and

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Speaker 2: you know, feeding them on a regular basis, so that's

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Speaker 2: way they have a food source. So I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: I guess that's the And then Ned, I met you

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Speaker 2: about ten years ago or so, and you know we've

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Speaker 2: been together ever since, So that's that's me in a nutshell.

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Speaker 2: I guess. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I remember you were living in Sunset Park at the time,

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Speaker 1: and you said, there are cats living in the alleyway,

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Speaker 1: you know, swear all the garages were. And I said,

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Speaker 1: I didn't see Anny. I walked through the alleyway. I

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Speaker 1: didn't see Anny. And then you walked through and you

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Speaker 1: made this sound like the female version of Doctor Doolittle.

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Speaker 1: And I mean, cats were coming out of every Nikrannian

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Speaker 1: corner and they were rubbing up against your leg, the

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Speaker 1: tails in the air, all of them with all of

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Speaker 1: their own unique personalities as I observed them, and there

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Speaker 1: were so many people just like yourself, mostly women, some

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Speaker 1: men out of pocket who care for these animals, sometimes

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Speaker 1: in distress, will also serve as a barrier because their

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Speaker 1: presence keeps the rats, the mice, the rodents away, and

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Speaker 1: so they earn their keep many times over without there

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Speaker 1: having to be pest asides and all other kinds of

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Speaker 1: alternatives they used to try to eliminate the rats and

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Speaker 1: the mice that you'll never eliminate. You could have daytime

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Speaker 1: with them, but you can keep them at bay. What

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Speaker 1: was it like when people would turn to you and

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Speaker 1: it'll call you a cat lady or disparagingly make fun

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Speaker 1: of you because you and others were reaching into your

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, well, first of all, I don't get

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Speaker 2: offended by people, you know, I usually try to explain

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Speaker 2: try to you know, you have to explain no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: and what I'm doing is basically caring for the ones

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Speaker 2: pick them up, it just creates a vacuum in that area,

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Speaker 2: and then what happens is other cats in the area

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Speaker 2: tough skinned, like I wouldn't really take it when people

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Speaker 2: are getting annoyed. But that's why you also have to

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Speaker 2: make sure you take care of these things in a

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Speaker 2: decent basis. So for example, you know, you don't leave

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Speaker 2: the food around, you don't do things that are going

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Speaker 2: to clearly bother neighbors, and you know, create nuisance. So

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Speaker 2: as long as and again that's also why you want

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Speaker 2: to make sure that you get the cats fixed. I

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Speaker 2: mean that's essential. You can't keep having the kittens around.

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Speaker 2: And then plus when they're fixed, they calm down a lot.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the the aggression that happens with the mail

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Speaker 2: where you know they're I mean again they're they're the

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Speaker 2: same as the indoor cats. It's just they need, you know,

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Speaker 2: the very specific attention because it's a tough it's a

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Speaker 2: tough time out there. You know, there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: cats that just inavertently stumble on poisons things of that nature.

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Speaker 2: Like I would have to explain to people, like, you know,

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Speaker 2: don't inadvertently throw things down, because that happens a lot too.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it always bothers me in the winter. Now,

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Speaker 2: obviously you see a lot of people throwing down the

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Speaker 2: like rock salt. The city throws down the rock salt.

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Speaker 2: That's actually dangerous for animals because they use like the

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Speaker 2: it's a tough life for them out there. So you know,

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Speaker 2: I just you know, I'm very compassionate. You know, I'll

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Speaker 2: have people who you know, you know, I feel like

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Speaker 2: everyone can understand it if you explain it to them,

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Speaker 2: and then if they don't understand it after that, then

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Speaker 2: to heck with them, because you know, they're living creatures

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Speaker 2: and I can't see any justification for letting someone's dislike

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Speaker 1: Now, what I loved about Wisconsin when I was up

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Speaker 1: there organizing Guardian Angels and Milwaukee is they don't use

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Speaker 1: of parmesan cheese, a brine, yeah, and naturally, I mean

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Speaker 1: were so many other alternatives, and I think one singular

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Speaker 1: thing that comes across is I've noticed some time to

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Speaker 1: time you'll be walking the streets where we live and

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Speaker 1: you'll see some pigeons in distress and you'll feed them.

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Speaker 1: Some people will refer them as rats with wings, others

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Speaker 1: as basically the official bird of New York City. Fact

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Speaker 1: that i'd been elected mayor, as you know, on the

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Speaker 1: campaign trail, I said, we would have taken the New

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Speaker 1: I would put a pigeon. That's what New York City

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Speaker 1: is known for. And I noticed some people would be

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Speaker 1: talking and she's feeding the pigeons, and I will walk

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Speaker 1: with that, Oh no, Curtis, No, you know that's my wife, Nancy.

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Speaker 1: You got a problem with that? No? No, And then

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Speaker 1: they have spikes that they yeah, the windowsills.

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Speaker 2: The aggression against the pigeons I find really really distasteful.

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Speaker 2: To your point, the spikes that are allowed to be

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Speaker 2: I mean that to me. I can't believe that's even

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Speaker 2: legal that that happened. But I definitely catch a lot

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Speaker 2: But then usually the people who are saying something to

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Speaker 2: so I'm not really sure where they are on their

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Speaker 2: you know, to eat it on, I guess right, yeah, And.

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Speaker 1: It's a much better remedy. If you don't want pigeons

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Speaker 1: flocking around, you just put up a plastic owl. It's

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Speaker 1: like in cornfields when they put up scarecrows. That has

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Speaker 1: the same impact without damaging the pigeons. And it's a

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Speaker 1: horrific death that they suffer because they get impaled. And

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Speaker 1: some people in their minds, you know, that's a OK.

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Speaker 1: But I think the broader issue is you know, and

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Speaker 1: again it's what I based both of my campaigns on

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Speaker 1: animal welfare at Mahatma Gandhi. You know, there will be

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Speaker 1: people who criticize him because they hate animals. He said

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Speaker 1: that a society that does not take care of its

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Speaker 1: have seen how much time and energy we in the

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Speaker 1: Guardian Angels, with your help, have put into caring for

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Speaker 1: the homeless and the emotionally disturbed because we don't take

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Speaker 1: The abuse the dogs that are raised to fight and

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Speaker 1: As you mentioned when spading and neutering, it would go

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Speaker 1: a long way and keeping these many animals God's creatures

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and again that's the whole goalposts of everything.

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Speaker 2: You know, you don't want to have the breeder animals.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's no reason to keep creating you know,

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Speaker 2: there's not enough home for them all together. So I

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Speaker 2: absolutely think that that has to stop right away. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you can't be having neck on.

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Speaker 1: Well, we'll be able to travel the vision with your mother,

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Speaker 1: Beth who just celebrated her birthday, who I believe out

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Speaker 1: in Bohemia really introduced you to the life of people

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Speaker 1: who dedicate themselves to animal would I be correct on that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. My mom's like first job, believe it or not,

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Speaker 2: when she, uh, you know, got a job in Long

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Speaker 2: Island was working at an animal shelter, so you know,

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Speaker 2: like a veterinarian office. Rather, so during the weekend when

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Speaker 2: So it was as though they were all like I

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Speaker 2: had a whole bunch of cats and dogs that I

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Speaker 2: were recovering or maybe they were for adoption. So that

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Speaker 2: was actually very cool. I mean. And I also grew

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Speaker 2: so you know, I'm just very familiar with them in general.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean, and you know, of course, growing

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Speaker 2: you know, you would you just you know, you see

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Speaker 2: and things like that like a little farm going on,

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Speaker 2: so you know, it's just a much more natural to

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Speaker 1: Well, the defining moment for me with you and your

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Speaker 1: passion for animals was in that first campaign when I

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Speaker 1: And I said, Nancy, you can't go down there on

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Speaker 2: They have drive by shootings.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I had already basically secured the rescue of

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Speaker 1: I remember, people need to know. My wife was crying

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Speaker 1: So to all of our critics out there, including the

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Speaker 2: But of course he.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't care about that, he who cares only about Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: Up next, we got it.

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Speaker 1: We have to have this conversation. It's the lead story

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Speaker 1: today about student loans garnishing. The United States will bail

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