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Speaker 3: the NFL proved moderately active for the Bengals. They did
Speaker 3: make a trade. They traded linebacker Logan Wilson to the
Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys in exchange for a seventh round pick, originally
Speaker 3: a third round pick of the Bengals in twenty two twenty.
Speaker 3: He played in seventy six regular season games with sixty
Speaker 3: five starts, also seven postseason starts. He'd requested a trade
Speaker 3: in recent weeks. He's tied for the NFL lead in
Speaker 3: interceptions by linebackers since twenty twenty, with eleven and a half.
Speaker 3: He ranks third in Bengals history among linebackers with interceptions
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Speaker 3: exchange for two first round picks. The former Bearcats All
Speaker 3: American hooks up with lou Anarumo, now in Indy. Then
Speaker 3: the Jets traded three time Pro Bowl defensive tackle Quinn
Speaker 3: Williams to the Cowboys for a first round pick next
Speaker 3: year and a second round pick in twenty twenty six
Speaker 3: and a first round pick in twenty twenty seven. The
Speaker 3: Jets now have five first round picks in the next
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Speaker 3: point twenty, we'll talk about the Logan Wilson trade. You
Speaker 3: and me. We will do that. After six thirty we'll
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Speaker 4: All right, let'.
Speaker 3: Sort through what has transpired today for the Bengals and
Speaker 3: around the NFL. Who better to do that with than
Speaker 3: my leadoff guest tonight, he covers the Bengals his publisher
Speaker 3: of Bengals Talk dot com. You got to listen to
Speaker 3: the Cincinni Bengals Talk and locked on Bengals podcast. Man
Speaker 3: has he been busy today? Let's welcome in James Orpene.
Speaker 3: How are you well?
Speaker 5: Answer?
Speaker 1: Are you?
Speaker 3: I'm well? I'm curious. I'll ask the question everybody's wondering
Speaker 3: and everybody's discussing today, the trade of Logan Wilson. Your
Speaker 3: reaction to Logan to the Cowboys for a seventh round
Speaker 3: draft pick.
Speaker 6: I think given the position that they put themselves in,
Speaker 6: which is benching their captain in the savor of her
Speaker 6: rookie and looking at his contract, I think.
Speaker 5: This makes sense.
Speaker 6: You wanted to get that contract off the books. You
Speaker 6: free up roughly five point two million dollars in cap
Speaker 6: space if you combined this year and next year and
Speaker 6: what they'll save, and so it stinks, but it beats
Speaker 6: the alternative of you keep Logan around until February.
Speaker 5: You cut it.
Speaker 6: You have a bigger cap hit. You don't have any
Speaker 6: cap savings, you don't have any seventh round pick, and
Speaker 6: he's still signing elsewhere. So did they handle everything right
Speaker 6: leading up to it, from the benching and everything involved
Speaker 6: there that really hurt his trade value. No, By getting
Speaker 6: something and getting someone to take on that contract, I
Speaker 6: think it was worth it.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Here's what I And you bring up a point that
Speaker 3: I've never understood in all of this when when they
Speaker 3: initially did this with Logan, it to me it just
Speaker 3: it screamed rebuild and we're moving on, and yet they
Speaker 3: were still in it, and yet by doing it, they
Speaker 3: exposed themselves to the inexperience and the problems that came
Speaker 3: with it. It just it seemed like mixed messaging or goals.
Speaker 6: You can totally agree, And I've asked Zach a few
Speaker 6: times about the plan because he's like, yeah, we got
Speaker 6: to play the young guys, and I get it.
Speaker 5: At like a left guard.
Speaker 6: You drafted Dylan Fairchild to play left guard and start
Speaker 6: right away.
Speaker 5: You knew that on draft day.
Speaker 6: Demetrius Knight, even if you disagreed with the pick at
Speaker 6: the time, you drafted him to do that to play linebacker,
Speaker 6: for you. You took him in the second round. You
Speaker 6: knew he was going to start from day one or
Speaker 6: replace Jermaine Prep. Fine, but Logan wasn't so bad that
Speaker 6: you had to bench.
Speaker 5: And in turn, when you did that, you're right.
Speaker 6: You open yourselves up to a lot of mistakes when
Speaker 6: you're still very much in it, when you had just
Speaker 6: traded for Joe Flacco. Barrett Carter's first start was Joe
Speaker 6: Flacco's first start at Lambo, and you have just traded
Speaker 6: for Joe Flacko, you're trying to stay in it.
Speaker 5: And the other element here is.
Speaker 6: It completely tanks any value Logan Wilson might have had.
Speaker 6: So there are a lot of people that look at
Speaker 6: this and say, you couldn't get a fifth for Logan
Speaker 6: Wilson or a sixth for Logan Wilson. Well, maybe you
Speaker 6: could have if he had another thirty tackles and he
Speaker 6: was on the field and maybe had an inner or two,
Speaker 6: and they made the move then. And I do think
Speaker 6: it's a questionable move that as of now, has it
Speaker 6: made them better. Maybe it will, but benching Logan Wilson
Speaker 6: has not made them better on defense, And the past
Speaker 6: four games are pretty obvious where the defense has had
Speaker 6: every opportunity, even at Lambo at third and eight, to
Speaker 6: get the ball back to Joe Flacko in the Bengals
Speaker 6: kit to win that game, an opportunity to put the
Speaker 6: Steelers away, didn't do it. Multiple opportunities to put the
Speaker 6: Jets away, an opportunity to put the Bears away. This
Speaker 6: defense hasn't done it. And you do wonder, man, if
Speaker 6: Logan was out there, would he have made a play,
Speaker 6: just that one play that could have put one of
Speaker 6: those games away.
Speaker 3: Are you surprised Trey Hendrickson is still here.
Speaker 5: I'm not surprised.
Speaker 6: I'm I'm disappointed, but there's there's so many layers to this.
Speaker 6: I'm disappointed because I'm afraid that we're.
Speaker 5: Going to go down the same path that.
Speaker 6: They went down this past year, which is trade just
Speaker 6: kind of in the wind. They can franchise tag him,
Speaker 6: and his agent left him open for the franchise tag,
Speaker 6: and I think that's very much in play. I know
Speaker 6: he dismissed that a few months ago, but I do.
Speaker 6: I think that's very much in play. Once upon a time,
Speaker 6: Lance I told t Higgins, like, watch out for that
Speaker 6: tag again. They're going to tag you next year. This
Speaker 6: wasn't during an interview. This is just me and him chatting.
Speaker 6: He was like, don't say that. I was like, I'm
Speaker 6: telling you. And guess what they did.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 6: They ended up keeping Tea because Joe Brow moved mountains
Speaker 6: behind the scenes to do so. But you get my
Speaker 6: point here is this this Tray thing. Now, it's just
Speaker 6: continuing to dangle and it is a distraction and it
Speaker 6: is an issue, and it impacts Trey and it messes
Speaker 6: with him, and I get it. You need playmakers. Fine, well,
Speaker 6: if you need playmakers, then pay him, and if you
Speaker 6: don't want to pay him, then trade him. And instead
Speaker 6: it's this weird in between where they're three and six.
Speaker 6: But Tray's gonna come back and he's gonna help them
Speaker 6: some and they're gonna be in this little middle ground.
Speaker 6: But I don't think any team should want to be in,
Speaker 6: and I think that's where they're going to be.
Speaker 3: They had a number of other expiring contracts, be it
Speaker 3: Cam Taylor Bridge, Genostone long list, Joseph's side, long list
Speaker 3: of brothers. Should they have done more today beyond Logan
Speaker 3: Wilson and not doing something with Trey?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know me of course they should have.
Speaker 6: I mean, of course they do you think Let me
Speaker 6: ask you this, do you think that the Bengals and
Speaker 6: maybe no one wanted to trade for Genostone? But do
Speaker 6: you think they're worse a Gino Stone just isn't on
Speaker 6: the roster outside of depth. No, I mean I don't,
Speaker 6: and I'm not trying to be mean the Geno, but
Speaker 6: he should have tackled Coastal Love Them the other day.
Speaker 6: Jordan Battle should have tackled Coastal Love.
Speaker 5: Them the other day.
Speaker 6: I just some of these guys Joseph O's side, You've
Speaker 6: had so many opportunities to be a consistent player for
Speaker 6: this team and it hasn't happened. You couldn't get a
Speaker 6: pick spot for Josepho's side that Joseph try On, a
Speaker 6: Trion could deal with the Bears where the Browns send
Speaker 6: Joe try On.
Speaker 5: To the Bear like.
Speaker 6: Of course you could have. And so those are the
Speaker 6: type of deals that I think that I would have
Speaker 6: been open to. I wanted them to be open to
Speaker 6: because I'm not sure it makes you worse. It hurts
Speaker 6: your depth a little bit, but I'm not sure it
Speaker 6: makes you worse, and it gives you, more resources, more
Speaker 6: tools for the future. So yeah, Cam Taylor Britt would
Speaker 6: have been one like Cam, but would have been open
Speaker 6: to dealing him Joseph Osai for sure, in plenty of
Speaker 6: these other guys on expiring contracts or just guys that
Speaker 6: don't seem like they're going to be part of the
Speaker 6: long term plan.
Speaker 3: Did you anticipate yesterday when you guys spoke with Zach,
Speaker 3: did you anticipate any change to the coaching staff?
Speaker 5: I did not.
Speaker 6: So much so, and this is not a shameless plug.
Speaker 6: I just want to make it clear of how much I,
Speaker 6: without talking to anyone, without asking anyone.
Speaker 5: Knew they weren't going to make a move.
Speaker 6: I had recorded my podcast before Zach talked before Locker
Speaker 6: Room and said they're not going to make a move.
Speaker 6: We won't have to come back and record one, and
Speaker 6: talked about the coaching staff why they shouldn't. I don't
Speaker 6: really blame them for not making a move coaching staff wise.
Speaker 6: And here's why, I asked Al Golden, and this is
Speaker 6: after I recorded the Lockdown BDALS podcast too. I asked
Speaker 6: Al Golden, Hey, is there any teaching point for Jordan
Speaker 6: Battle in that situation against Colston Loveland, like, no, I
Speaker 6: just get him to the.
Speaker 5: Ground and so at some point and I did it.
Speaker 6: The defense has been so bad and it looks so bad,
Speaker 6: But I refuse to believe that this coach that people
Speaker 6: eight months ago, nine months ago, ten months ago were
Speaker 6: saying was the best defensive coordinator in the country at
Speaker 6: Notre Dame just forgot how to coach. And the other
Speaker 6: proof I have is lou Anarumo goes to the Colts
Speaker 6: and he clearly.
Speaker 5: Didn't forget how to coach. So like fool me once
Speaker 5: it's all on the move.
Speaker 6: Well, clearly it wasn't it Fine? But I'm still okay
Speaker 6: with the change because I think they got a good
Speaker 6: coach and now Golden it doesn't look good now and
Speaker 6: they're so bad. Fine, but that does firing Al Golden
Speaker 6: today make them better? Like they're all on the hot seat.
Speaker 6: We know that they're three and six, like they should
Speaker 6: all be.
Speaker 5: On the hot seat. Zack's on the hot seat. They're
Speaker 5: all on the hot seat.
Speaker 6: So making a move now, I'm not sure that matters,
Speaker 6: but they better be better.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 6: It's it's a shame because I I'm just shocked at
Speaker 6: how bad it's gotten. Like this is this is comically bad.
Speaker 6: I've covered some bad teams, like I mean, when we
Speaker 6: were working together daily. Think about some of those twenty
Speaker 6: seventeen twenty eighteen Bengals Marvin and of Marvin era defenses.
Speaker 6: They were bad, yep, but it wasn't like this. This
Speaker 6: is the worst I've ever seen.
Speaker 3: Got about a minute. You've in covering all those teams,
Speaker 3: been in that locker room for high points and low points.
Speaker 3: Describe the vibe Sunday after the game in that locker room.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I mean starting to come to the realization
Speaker 6: of what they are.
Speaker 5: And it's maddening.
Speaker 6: I think it's maddening you because you see one side,
Speaker 6: and you know it's this offensive line that I think
Speaker 6: has done a pretty darn good job in the Joe
Speaker 6: Flacco era. And obviously you have the skill guys that
Speaker 6: are just unbelievable. I mean, Jamar and t have been
Speaker 6: just insane, and Andre steps up and Chase Brown's making
Speaker 6: plays and I know he had a few drops, but
Speaker 6: all these guys.
Speaker 5: Are making places for Joe Flacco. The offensive line is
Speaker 5: playing well, and the defense just can't make a play.
Speaker 6: Of course, a turnover can't get off the field third
Speaker 6: and ten, Caleb Williams just rolls out and runs for
Speaker 6: fourteen yards against the That's the hidden play in all
Speaker 6: of this. They had him at third down, yep, And
Speaker 6: I don't think anyone in the building was confident they
Speaker 6: were getting a stop, and so I think that's it.
Speaker 6: And I don't know how they fix it on defense,
Speaker 6: I really don't. I've I just kind of expected to
Speaker 6: come back to the mean a little bit, but it's
Speaker 6: just been so bad that I would be throwing a
Speaker 6: bunch of stuff at the wall. And that's why I
Speaker 6: would have been open to trading some of those guys.
Speaker 6: I really would have. And maybe they were right. I
Speaker 6: don't think so. I just know their history and how
Speaker 6: they operate. I don't think they were pushing cam Taylor
Speaker 6: Bride or pushing a bj Hill trade or push to
Speaker 6: get his contract off the books, or you know, open
Speaker 6: to trading Jordan. Battle just didn't feel like that. But
Speaker 6: they probably should have just just switch it up.
Speaker 3: A little bit.
Speaker 5: You never know what a little new life could bring you.
Speaker 5: We've seen that with Joe Flacco.
Speaker 6: So yeah, I think reality has said in a bit
Speaker 6: on this team, for sure.
Speaker 3: You have been cranking out the content, not just today
Speaker 3: but day after day. What do you have up now?
Speaker 3: It will be coming and how can listeners partake in
Speaker 3: all of it?
Speaker 6: I just posted a lock on Bengals podcast. We've relive
Speaker 6: on Cincinnati Bengals Talk on YouTube for an hour. Plenty
Speaker 6: of stuff there. I'm looking at Bengals Talk dot com
Speaker 6: and there are a bunch of articles reacting to the
Speaker 6: Logan Wilson deale reacting to their lack of trades with
Speaker 6: Trey hendrickson the cap space that they saved for Logan Wilson.
Speaker 6: The actual pick that the Cowboys are sending isn't the
Speaker 6: Cowboys that details there. There's so much at Bengals Talk
Speaker 6: dot com as well.
Speaker 2: Busy day.
Speaker 3: I appreciate your carbon out of time.
Speaker 5: Thank you, absolutely thanks.
Speaker 3: There you go, James Rapine got it covered on the
Speaker 3: Bengals front. We'll take a time out, get a check
Speaker 3: on news, get into Logan Wilson, more Arnel Carrier Sports
Speaker 3: Talk presented by Kelsey Chevallet seven hundred WLW Man. That
Speaker 3: scene in Louisville absolutely horrific. Thoughts and prayers to all
Speaker 3: involved and around the area. Daughter lives three miles from
Speaker 3: the airport and sent me the shelter in place that
Speaker 3: she got about an hour ago for everybody within five
Speaker 3: miles and just absolutely I can't even I mean, the
Speaker 3: flames and the smoke and the scope of it is unbelievable. Man.
Speaker 3: College basketball got underway last night. I've never understood why
Speaker 3: they don't make a bigger deal out of opening night
Speaker 3: in college basketball, just like it starts and then it
Speaker 3: just continues on, and it seems like it should be
Speaker 3: like a and on Monday Night. I mean, if you
Speaker 3: did it tonight, you wouldn't have Monday night football as
Speaker 3: part of the spotlight. And it just seems like there
Speaker 3: should be like an opening day and opening night of
Speaker 3: college basketball extravaganza around the country and big billing and
Speaker 3: stuff like that, and it never happened. Everybody won around here.
Speaker 3: Everybody won around like the Tri State, with the exception
Speaker 3: of unfortunately the Ohio Bobcats. I think UC beat Western
Speaker 3: Carolina ninety four sixty three. The freshman Sean Abayev and
Speaker 3: Mustapha Chom and Boba Miller had eighteen apiece. Xavier beat
Speaker 3: Maris last night. Malik Massina more led him with I
Speaker 3: think they had four and double figures. He had sixteen
Speaker 3: points and he tossed in three boards and two assists
Speaker 3: and a steal. Miami beat ODU and in a god
Speaker 3: that was the mac Sun Belt Conference Challenge. The opener
Speaker 3: eighty seven seventy two. The Pride of Cuvcat Evan Ipsarrow
Speaker 3: had sixteen. For the Blackhawks or RedHawks, I'm sorry. NKU
Speaker 3: beat you see Claremont one twenty six to sixty nine.
Speaker 3: The North scored sixty three in the first half and
Speaker 3: they scored sixty three in the second half. Cale Robinson
Speaker 3: had twenty two. That twenty six point total tied their
Speaker 3: school record. They are at Tennessee on Saturday. We are
Speaker 3: going to Knoxville this weekend for the bye and I
Speaker 3: had no idea in our planning. It just didn't hit
Speaker 3: me to think of the look at the road schedule
Speaker 3: and find out that the Norse were on the road.
Speaker 3: I gonna go to the game. Dayton beat Canisius last
Speaker 3: night by forty eleventh. Frank Louisville and Pat Kelsey beat
Speaker 3: South Carolina State one oh four forty five. South Carolina
Speaker 3: State coach by the former Bearcat, Eric Martin. Ohio State
Speaker 3: outslugged IU Indy one eighteen to one oh two sixty
Speaker 3: six point first half for the Buckeyes. Right State beat
Speaker 3: Franklin eighty six thirty seven. Chris Mack and Charleston beat Tusculum,
Speaker 3: Mick and UCLA one. The Bobcats of Ohio University lost
Speaker 3: to Arkansas State. You know what I really like about
Speaker 3: Richard Patino, and not just because he was on the
Speaker 3: show last week. I enjoyed the conversation with you, but
Speaker 3: he does his own social media and he tweeted his
Speaker 3: thoughts on the game last night. In a grade four,
Speaker 3: he tweeted this afternoon thoughts on last night one student
Speaker 3: section A plus two. The defense C plus terrific in
Speaker 3: the first half, took our foot off the gas in
Speaker 3: the second turned them over three. The offense D minus
Speaker 3: screening was poor, shot selection was below average. Did a
Speaker 3: great job getting to the free throw line and for
Speaker 3: rebounding C minus minus two in the glass not good enough.
Speaker 3: Got a fight. I liked that does his own social
Speaker 3: media and does the report card after the games. All right,
Speaker 3: So the Bengals trade Logan Wilson today to the Dallas
Speaker 3: Cowboys in exchange for a seventh round pick Zach Taylor saying,
Speaker 3: and I quote, I appreciate everything Logan has done as
Speaker 3: a player and as a person during his time in Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: He has been a central part of our defense for
Speaker 3: over the past six years, and he will be remembered
Speaker 3: as a leader in our locker room. I wish him
Speaker 3: the best moving forward. End quote from Zach Taylor. I
Speaker 3: find it fascinating, if not unacceptable, that Zach Taylor is
Speaker 3: the one who has to issue the quotes when they
Speaker 3: trade a player. Look around the league today the number
Speaker 3: of a different general man who held news conferences and
Speaker 3: issued quotes about the trades they made. And Zach Taylor
Speaker 3: is the one who has to make the quotes available
Speaker 3: for the media. I find that I do. I find
Speaker 3: that fascinating. Joe Goodbarry locked on Bengals on the brain.
Speaker 3: So many different platforms locked on Bengals with James Rapeen.
Speaker 3: Joe Goodberry does Bengals on the brain. And he tweeted
Speaker 3: the following. This was earlier this morning, before the trade.
Speaker 3: I think he tweeted. Like everyone in the Bengals twenty
Speaker 3: twenty five defense, Logan Wilson was struggling. He seemed a
Speaker 3: step slower had to deal with blockers more often and
Speaker 3: missed a handful of tackles, but he was still their
Speaker 3: best linebacker and had some very good games in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty five. He was dominant in Week one and showed
Speaker 3: signs of life in a reduced role the last few weeks.
Speaker 3: If he looks better in a new setting, I wouldn't
Speaker 3: be shocked. Joe Goodbarry earlier today, you know, speaking that
Speaker 3: Week one. I went back this morning and I listened
Speaker 3: to the conversation we had with Logan on Bengals line.
Speaker 3: Here is Logan Wilson when he joined us talking about
Speaker 3: the Week one win over the Browns, and I asked
Speaker 3: him about that young linebacker group. Take a listen to
Speaker 3: what he told me. How does it feel to be
Speaker 3: a part of a unit that steps up on a
Speaker 3: day where the offense isn't working at its highest optimum level,
Speaker 3: but the defense makes plays and seals a game.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it felt really good. There was a
Speaker 8: lot of doubters and stuff throughout the whole offseason. We
Speaker 8: knew we were capable of. We were very intrinsically motivated.
Speaker 8: We didn't really care about all the external factors that
Speaker 8: were going on. Outside the building, and we believed in
Speaker 8: one another, believe in the coaching staff, and since Al's
Speaker 8: gotten here, like that's just kind of been our mantra
Speaker 8: as a stack a day, brick by brick, and we
Speaker 8: went out and did a lot of good things yesterday
Speaker 8: and found a way to come away with a win.
Speaker 8: And honestly, that's the most important thing is finding ways
Speaker 8: to win. Especially week one. It's never going to be
Speaker 8: very clean or as perfect as you want to be.
Speaker 8: That's the nature of week one because no one has
Speaker 8: played a full game. Even if you've played in some
Speaker 8: of the preseason, you haven't played an entire game, and
Speaker 8: some of those factors come into count.
Speaker 3: You're the widely veteran of that linebacker group. Now. Dimitrius Knights,
Speaker 3: the rookie, played fifty eight snaps yesterday. What was it
Speaker 3: like playing with him? Communication? How do things go?
Speaker 8: Kid plays with his hair on fire, He's super twitchy,
Speaker 8: and it's just good to have a guy like that
Speaker 8: playing next year. He's just going to find a way
Speaker 8: to make plays. He's always he's running to the ball.
Speaker 8: That's the one thing I told him, I said, dude,
Speaker 8: you're gonna make mistakes today. I've said, but the one
Speaker 8: thing you can control is your efforts. I just fly
Speaker 8: around and make plays, and he definitely did that. And
Speaker 8: he's going to continue to grow at the more reps
Speaker 8: he gets and continue to be a really good player
Speaker 8: for US.
Speaker 3: Logan Wilson back in Week one on Bengals line I
Speaker 3: was looking at Pro Football Focus this morning linebacker grades.
Speaker 3: Out of eighty two linebackers in the NFL who qualify
Speaker 3: with enough snaps overall grade at the linebacker position, Logan
Speaker 3: Wilson ranks fifty eighth out of eighty two, Barrett Carter
Speaker 3: eightieth out of eighty two, and Dimitrius Knight Junior eighty
Speaker 3: two out of eighty two. In terms of run defense
Speaker 3: grade out of eighty six qualified linebackers, Logan was sixty
Speaker 3: third against the run, Barrett eighty second against the run,
Speaker 3: Demetrius eighty sixth against the run. In terms of pass
Speaker 3: coverage out of seventy five qualifying linebackers, Logan ranked fifty
Speaker 3: second out of seventy five, Dimitrious Night Junior fifty fourth,
Speaker 3: and Barrett Carter sixty first. So it's the young guys show.
Speaker 3: It's theirs to do with it. What they can in
Speaker 3: the remaining eight games of the season. It's been that
Speaker 3: way since they demoted Logan Wilson. Zach talked yesterday about
Speaker 3: the opportunities in clearing the way for young guys to
Speaker 3: find their voice or how that is established. Listen to
Speaker 3: what Zach said yesterday.
Speaker 2: I'm not afraid for young guys to step up.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 9: It doesn't have to be a veteran. Doesn't have to
Speaker 9: be a three, four, five, six, seven year veteran. It
Speaker 9: can be you that's done things the right way and
Speaker 9: is accountable and the guys respond to and it doesn't
Speaker 9: have to be perfect. But I think those young linebackers
Speaker 9: have leadership qualities, and guys see the way they work
Speaker 9: and how much it means to them, and so if
Speaker 9: they were to speak, I think that guys would listen
Speaker 9: to them, you know, And I think there's a lot
Speaker 9: of guys that fit that that. I remember Sam Hubbard
Speaker 9: going through this is young player kind of afraid to
Speaker 9: speak because there were other veterans in the room that
Speaker 9: kind of had that position and always pushing him to
Speaker 9: take guys respect the way you work. Eventually that clicked
Speaker 9: for him and he took over that ownership and was
Speaker 9: a tremendous leadership for us. There's similar positions I feel
Speaker 9: right now where we're pushing guys, don't be afraid, don't
Speaker 9: be afraid.
Speaker 2: To step on toes.
Speaker 9: That's we just want to win games, and we want
Speaker 9: everyone to be accountable and if you got leadership qualities,
Speaker 9: step up and say something. Sometimes there's quiet leadership too,
Speaker 9: guys just doing what they do and doing it the
Speaker 9: right way. And guys respond to that as well, so
Speaker 9: that when they do speak every so often then it
Speaker 9: really resonates with other guys.
Speaker 2: And we got some of that as well.
Speaker 3: Zach Taylor yesterday, Still Ahead, Zach was asked twice about
Speaker 3: how the front off is feels about where things are
Speaker 3: right now. What he said, when we continue RNL Carrier
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Speaker 3: keep rolling. Hey, I'm on X at Lance Pacallister. I'm
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Speaker 3: the show during the show, be a part of the conversation,
Speaker 3: even added the conversation outside the show. I'm always twenty
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Speaker 3: the fun. This is not fun. I'm looking at Jay
Speaker 3: Morrison from Bengals Talk dot com and he has a
Speaker 3: list through Sunday through last night of the NFL missed
Speaker 3: tackle leaders around the league. This is according to sports Radar,
Speaker 3: which tracks such things. Number one in most mistackles, Jordan
Speaker 3: Battle of the Bengals fifteen, number two in most mistackles,
Speaker 3: Dimitris Knight Junior Bengals fourteen, tied for third, Gino Stone
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Bengals thirteen and tied for ninth. Barrett Carter Bengals
Speaker 3: with ten. Bengals have four in the top nine in
Speaker 3: terms of mistackles through week nine of the NFL season.
Speaker 3: My head hurts. Yesterday, Zach met with the media traditional
Speaker 3: Monday gathering and was asking a couple of different times
Speaker 3: about the front office. And this aspect has always amused
Speaker 3: and confused me. I want you to take a listen,
Speaker 3: Zach answering the first question about the front office.
Speaker 10: Here it is, Zach, what's been Duke's assessment of just
Speaker 10: what's going on defensively and what may be able to
Speaker 10: improve after the Bobbo.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna speak for anybody. I mean for us, we
Speaker 2: got to execute better.
Speaker 9: Obviously, We've got to get everybody on the same page
Speaker 9: and execute the fundamentals and the details of what we're
Speaker 9: trying to do. And I think everyone's in favor of that,
Speaker 9: and everyone wants to do that. We just we haven't
Speaker 9: done a great job of that, especially over the last
Speaker 9: couple of weeks, and so we're all.
Speaker 2: Accountable for that.
Speaker 9: That's what we'll spend our why week doing as coaches,
Speaker 9: trying to find a way to get everybody to play
Speaker 9: on the same page all the time. We've got a
Speaker 9: lot of young players that are out there at the
Speaker 9: same time, and so getting those guys the experience they
Speaker 9: need together is only going to make us better in
Speaker 9: the future. And so again we're just working through all that.
Speaker 2: Guys are all accountable for it.
Speaker 9: Everybody wants to play winning defense, winning football, winning team, football,
Speaker 9: winning offense, all that stuff.
Speaker 2: So that's what we'll continue to try to.
Speaker 3: Do, Zach Taylor. Yesterday, he was asked again during that
Speaker 3: news conference about conversations with the front office and the
Speaker 3: de facto general manager, Duke Tobin. Listen to what he said.
Speaker 10: I know you're not going to give us exactly what
Speaker 10: conversations have been like but when it comes to duke
Speaker 10: toe and our ownership and name said are main confident
Speaker 10: in the side.
Speaker 9: I should not speak for anybody. We have great staff,
Speaker 9: great great conversations. Everyone's on the same page that we
Speaker 9: just want to win and we want to look good
Speaker 9: when we're winning. Yeah, and there's nobody that lacks accountability
Speaker 9: in any area. We're all just trying to do everything
Speaker 9: we can to get better. But I'm certainly not gonna
Speaker 9: speak for anybody.
Speaker 3: Accountability. Remember that word. It'll come into play in our
Speaker 3: next segment after the news. But can you imagine going
Speaker 3: through a season like this, a season of major disappointment,
Speaker 3: a step back for the franchise, and only offering up
Speaker 3: your head coach to talk about it, serving up Zach
Speaker 3: Taylor to answer, an attempt to explain and defend and
Speaker 3: carry water for the organization. You know, the word accountability
Speaker 3: was uttered by Zach seven times yesterday, seven times I counted.
Speaker 3: Has a word ever been thrown around more by an
Speaker 3: organization and applied less than in the Bengals organization. Accountability
Speaker 3: only applies to the players. It never goes up the chain,
Speaker 3: It only trickles down the chain. You know fans faced
Speaker 3: A number of fans faced a season ticket opt out
Speaker 3: deadline last week. There's been a lot of soul searching
Speaker 3: going on by a lot of fans asked to make
Speaker 3: decisions and not provided answers about a plan only hearing
Speaker 3: from the head coach. Jason Williams of The Inquirer wrote,
Speaker 3: I think it was Monday. Someone in the front office
Speaker 3: needs to answer for this immediately. It starts with hearing
Speaker 3: from Duke Tobin, who's the architect of the roster. It's
Speaker 3: all that matters right now. As angry as anger and
Speaker 3: apathy builds in a fan base that has led to
Speaker 3: that has led to believe the days of the Bengals
Speaker 3: being a national punchline ended with a Super Bowl run
Speaker 3: four seasons ago, and Jason wrote, I requested an interview
Speaker 3: with Tobin last Wednesday. Others in the local media have too.
Speaker 3: The Bengals are considering making their player Personnel director available
Speaker 3: to questions this week. The club typically does not make
Speaker 3: Tobin or anyone in the front office available for interviews
Speaker 3: during the season, but Jason concluded things have haven't been
Speaker 3: this bad for the club in several years, and fans
Speaker 3: need to hear from Tobin. The strong locker room culture
Speaker 3: that Taylor has built is fracturing. The Bengals have a
Speaker 3: playoff caliber offense on one hand, but on the other
Speaker 3: they have the worst defense in the NFL by far.
Speaker 3: Let's hope, he writes, Tobin provides answers for the fans.
Speaker 3: It's the bye week, no better time to hear from
Speaker 3: the roster architect. Surely Tobin and ownership are disgusted and embarrassed.
Speaker 3: The fans demand accountability from the organization asap. I just
Speaker 3: watched during the break the press conference the media session
Speaker 3: that Eagles GM Howie Roseman held with the media this afternoon,
Speaker 3: and he explained why they did what they did today,
Speaker 3: and he talked about their vision and their philosophy and
Speaker 3: their goals. And I saw that in a quote offered
Speaker 3: up by Chris Ballard, the Colts general manager today, It
Speaker 3: just again, I maybe fascinating is the wrong word. Maybe
Speaker 3: it's infuriating. I just find it fascinating that Zach has
Speaker 3: to answer for everything that happens in this organization. He's
Speaker 3: just the coach. Are now Carrier Sports Talk presented by
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Speaker 1: The following takes place between seven pm and eight pm.
Speaker 3: All right, let's keep rolling already, our numbnumber two unfolding
Speaker 3: a total of three. I'm glad you were here. Thank you.
Speaker 3: A little bit later on say bottom they are. Let's
Speaker 3: talk a little Bob Trump, remember the Bengal legend and
Speaker 3: the broadcasting legend, and share some stories. You're going to
Speaker 3: hear some stories he told me over the years that
Speaker 3: coming up at seven point thirty. I very much look
Speaker 3: forward to your input on that. In fact, after an
Speaker 3: hour of talking to Bengals and James R. Peene and
Speaker 3: you heard from James and from me, and from Zach
Speaker 3: Taylor and from Logan Wilson, I would love to hear
Speaker 3: from you now on the trade deadline and where things
Speaker 3: are at this moment in your mind. At five one, three, seven, four, nine,
Speaker 3: seven thousand and one, eight hundred, the Big One jump
Speaker 3: into this. Let's talk some Bengals. To kick off this hour,
Speaker 3: I mentioned the number of gms around the NFL today
Speaker 3: who made trades who publicly then commented on those trades.
Speaker 3: Chris Ballard, general manager of the Colts. They swing the
Speaker 3: big deal, they bring in Sauce Gardner handing to lou Anroumo.
Speaker 3: Chris Ballard, the general manager of the Colts, said quote,
Speaker 3: having the opportunity to acquire a talented player like saw
Speaker 3: Us Gardner was one we did not want to pass on.
Speaker 3: He was a player that we scouted heavily coming out
Speaker 3: of college and there's a reason he was the fourth
Speaker 3: overall pick. Sauce is a proven cornerback. His skill and
Speaker 3: competitive nature will elevate everyone's play on the defensive unit.
Speaker 3: We are thrilled he is a cult The general manager
Speaker 3: of the Colts, Chris Ballard, explaining to his fans today
Speaker 3: what they are doing, why they are doing it, and
Speaker 3: what their plans are now. Interesting and of note, I
Speaker 3: am not a frequent viewer of the Pro Football Talk
Speaker 3: Live show. That is Mike Florio and Chris Simms. Listen
Speaker 3: to what Mike Florio dropped about the Bengals organization and
Speaker 3: Duke Tobin.
Speaker 7: Here.
Speaker 11: It is jobs are on the line, you said earlier.
Speaker 11: They're constantly evaluating everyone. Players who will be back or
Speaker 11: not be back, coaches who will be back or not
Speaker 11: be back. There's this bubbling up now. The Duke Tobin,
Speaker 11: the de facto GM, is going to be out. We'll
Speaker 11: see maybe during the bye week, maybe sooner. But heads
Speaker 11: are going to roll in Cincinnati. This is unacceptable because
Speaker 11: it's largely unprecedented.
Speaker 3: How bad this defense is. I believe that when I
Speaker 3: see it, I don't. I wouldn't trust Mike Florio. Further,
Speaker 3: I could throw him. I'd almost be in a position
Speaker 3: to say if Duke Tobin were to be out this week,
Speaker 3: if that were to happen, I would ride a tricycle
Speaker 3: around Fountain Square and address And I've already done that
Speaker 3: once in my life. So I'm not daring that to happen.
Speaker 3: I just I don't believe that's the case. I don't
Speaker 3: believe heads are going to roll. I don't believe it's
Speaker 3: unacceptable until shown otherwise. Zach was asked yesterday about potential
Speaker 3: changes to the coaching staff. Take a listen to what
Speaker 3: Bengals head coach Zach Taylor said.
Speaker 5: Did you consider any staff changes over the past four hours?
Speaker 5: What gives you the belief that.
Speaker 2: These these are good football coaches.
Speaker 9: They've been successful everywhere they've been and so again, we're
Speaker 9: still in the first half of the season.
Speaker 2: We all know we got to play better.
Speaker 9: As a football team has been challenges or offenses faced.
Speaker 9: Of course the season, we worked through them. We're playing
Speaker 9: better for it. There's challenges are defense they're facing right now.
Speaker 9: I'm confident that we're going to work through it. We're
Speaker 9: gonna play better football and find a way to win
Speaker 9: some games.
Speaker 3: Can you clarify you don't plan to make any step
Speaker 3: change on the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 8: No.
Speaker 2: I believe in these guys absolutely, Zach Taylor.
Speaker 3: Yesterday at his weekly Monday gathering with the media, he
Speaker 3: was asked by I think our guy Trags joins this
Speaker 3: Thursday night, six twenty on the Roundtable Show with Rocky
Speaker 3: this week at the Hebrew Location where that will be
Speaker 3: the second of a five week run at the Hebrew location.
Speaker 3: Stop buying hang out with us on Thursday night from
Speaker 3: six to eight o'clock. But I believe it was Trags.
Speaker 3: You'll hear the question who asked what Zach would say
Speaker 3: to two outsiders, two fans who wonder why change isn't coming.
Speaker 3: Here's Zach.
Speaker 2: From the outside.
Speaker 12: Zach, A lot of people wonder why losing five of
Speaker 12: six the way the last two games have ended, why
Speaker 12: don't you make changes? Is their status quo acceptable? And
Speaker 12: people wonder on the outside, why do you feel that
Speaker 12: you do have the solutions in the building and not
Speaker 12: make any change.
Speaker 2: Why is that.
Speaker 9: Because I've been through this situation before. We've been through
Speaker 9: this situation many years and come out the other side
Speaker 9: playing for championships when in divisions, by sticking with what
Speaker 9: we believe in and not doing what everybody wants you
Speaker 9: to do. By sticking with it, I'm thankful that in
Speaker 9: twenty twenty they didn't kick me out of here, so
Speaker 9: we really to go to the super Bowl the next year.
Speaker 9: And so again, I believe in the people that we've hired.
Speaker 9: I sit in there, I watch these guys coach. I
Speaker 9: know what they're made of. I know where we can
Speaker 9: continue to grow. And so when you believe in people,
Speaker 9: you don't just make a gut reaction from what people
Speaker 9: want to see that aren't necessarily a part of it.
Speaker 9: I understand the frustration.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 9: I'd be frustrated to if I was outside of the building.
Speaker 9: We're going to get it fixed, We're going to continue
Speaker 9: to work it. I trust every coach we got in
Speaker 9: this building to get it done, or else they wouldn't
Speaker 9: be here, we wouldn't hire them in the first place,
Speaker 9: and so again I got firm belief that we can
Speaker 9: get this done and we can do with the we
Speaker 9: have and find a way to get some wins. And
Speaker 9: again we just there's some things we got to clean up,
Speaker 9: we got to do better. There's a coaching side of
Speaker 9: that too, where we got to find ways to push
Speaker 9: the right buttons for these guys to get them exactly
Speaker 9: to do.
Speaker 2: It how we want to do it. But I trust
Speaker 2: that we can get that done.
Speaker 3: Zach Taylor yesterday in meeting with the media, let me
Speaker 3: give you one more from Zach, and he was asked
Speaker 3: if and I think this was memory serves. I think
Speaker 3: this may have been trags again if this group of
Speaker 3: young players, specifically more specifically defensive young players, if they
Speaker 3: have a grasp of this situation where this season is
Speaker 3: right now, and an appreciation for the state of this
Speaker 3: team right now. Here's what Zach said, Do you think.
Speaker 12: The young players feel the way the significance of season
Speaker 12: slumping away and we.
Speaker 9: Came Well, we've talked about it, We've talked about this.
Speaker 9: This can't be a last season for us. This has
Speaker 9: got to be We got to come out of this
Speaker 9: by rejuvenated and find.
Speaker 2: A way to win.
Speaker 9: And winning one game certainly propels you, and you've got
Speaker 9: to build some momentum off of that. We had a
Speaker 9: chance after the Pittsburgh game and kind of waste the
Speaker 9: two opportunities there, and how much different things could have
Speaker 9: been if we had finished these two games out. We'd
Speaker 9: still have issues we have to address, but we'd be
Speaker 9: in a better position, and so we just got to
Speaker 9: find a way to kickstart that and build our own
Speaker 9: momentimum there. So we got players young and old that
Speaker 9: are accountable. They all want to do well. They're all
Speaker 9: again I say this a lot, they're all made of
Speaker 9: the right stuff. We have a good locker room. I
Speaker 9: know yesterday is frustrating, emotional after a game like that,
Speaker 9: that's not to be unexpected. But we'll just continue to
Speaker 9: get back to work and keep grinding.
Speaker 3: Zach Taylor yesterday. This from Todd Archer of ESPO, who
Speaker 3: covers the Dallas Cowboys logan Wilson's new team. Todd used
Speaker 3: to work here as well in the city. I was
Speaker 3: the inquirer or the post. I can't remember. It's been
Speaker 3: so long, Todd Archer, tweeting the following Bengals coach Zach
Speaker 3: Taylor informed Logan Wilson to the trade this morning. He
Speaker 3: went to the team facility immediately Logan Wilson did. Logan says, quote,
Speaker 3: I went in and said my goodbyes to all the
Speaker 3: people that poured into me and that I helped pour
Speaker 3: into them. So it was a tough goodbye, but it
Speaker 3: was a time for a fresh start. Logan Wilson. Earlier
Speaker 3: this morning, let's grab some calls, get you into this
Speaker 3: conversation in Cincinnati. Charlie, you were on seven hundred WLW welcome.
Speaker 13: Lam spend, appreciate it. Hey, I'm just have two points.
Speaker 13: The first point with Duke Tobin. You know I can't
Speaker 13: get into too much, but Duke Tobin is a figurehead
Speaker 13: for this team. He is a buffer from the ownership.
Speaker 13: They are the ones who make the decisions of the personnel.
Speaker 13: They negotiate all the contracts. Duke Tobin is not making
Speaker 13: the day to day decisions on personnel. That's why you
Speaker 13: don't hear from him there. He'd be not be able
Speaker 13: to provide any color.
Speaker 3: Or anything like that.
Speaker 13: I would encourage you guys in the immediate to ask
Speaker 13: more about the structure of the organization.
Speaker 3: But who would who would those questions be asked too?
Speaker 3: They don't make themselves available.
Speaker 13: No, I agree, I just I think Duke Tobin's taking
Speaker 13: the brunt of the most of the points, and this
Speaker 13: fault on Katie Blackburn and Mike Brown. My second point
Speaker 13: to all this is, if you go back to twenty eighteen,
Speaker 13: we have hit on like foundational pieces exactly three draft
Speaker 13: picks Jamar, Chase, Burrow, and Higgins. Outside of that on
Speaker 13: a foundational level, name another draft pick that we've hit
Speaker 13: on since twenty eighteen.
Speaker 3: Would that's a great point. I'd say Chase Brown to
Speaker 3: be fair. But to your bigger point, my daughter, my
Speaker 3: twenty three year old daughter, could have drafted Joe Burrow,
Speaker 3: Chase Brown, and T. Higgins or right, Jamar, Chase and
Speaker 3: T Higgins.
Speaker 13: I don't disagree. They can't miss prospect and you know
Speaker 13: Jaith Brown, yes, but in terms of foundational pieces, a
Speaker 13: left tackle or a defensive lineman. You know, our first
Speaker 13: round draft pick this year has I mean, you can't
Speaker 13: even find him on the field half the time. And
Speaker 13: I would just encourage people to this is an ownership problem.
Speaker 13: This is Katie Blackburn, This is Mike Brown. You know
Speaker 13: they have a much bigger say, well, but I don't Charlie.
Speaker 3: But Charlie, I guess i'd ask, why would you be
Speaker 3: letting Duke Tobin off the hook? Nobody should be off
Speaker 3: the hook above the head coach. They should all be
Speaker 3: on the hook. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna less
Speaker 3: It shouldn't be lessened for Duke. There is no accountability
Speaker 3: that goes up in the organization. It's only used by
Speaker 3: the head coach and it's applied down to his players.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 14: I don't disagree, I'm just saying.
Speaker 13: My point being is Duke Tobin is not the one
Speaker 13: making the personnel decision this we need as a city.
Speaker 13: It's on Mike Brown, It's on Katie Blackburn, and Duke
Speaker 13: to been simply a buffer in there to make it
Speaker 13: look like we have a GM. You know, like take
Speaker 13: the Reds for example. You know they've have their ups
Speaker 13: and downs, but you've got to give them credit. They're
Speaker 13: trying to win. They have peace, you.
Speaker 3: Know, the personal place.
Speaker 13: But in terms of you know, the pieces, you look
Speaker 13: at every single Major League or every single NFL TA
Speaker 13: you have a practice facility. He even FC Cincinnati has
Speaker 13: a practice facility. Cincinnati is the only one that doesn't
Speaker 13: have a separate practice facility. They don't invest in the team.
Speaker 13: That's why we can't it free agents here. You know
Speaker 13: this sounds ancillary, but even you know in terms of
Speaker 13: like dining for the players, it's clearly every year it's
Speaker 13: one of the worst rated in f Why would you
Speaker 13: not want your players to have the best possible nutrition.
Speaker 13: They don't invest in the team, and then they come
Speaker 13: to the county and.
Speaker 3: Ask for four hundred million.
Speaker 13: As all these other places, whether it's Nashville or Cleveland
Speaker 13: or Buffalo, they're building these stadiums on their own, on
Speaker 13: their own dime for the most part, and ours is
Speaker 13: looking for a renovation because they're just cheap and didn't
Speaker 13: want to spend money. And whether they win or not,
Speaker 13: did get that NFL revenue share.
Speaker 3: Charlie, I got to run. I got to run. I
Speaker 3: appreciate your point in your spraying to all fields now
Speaker 3: and opening up a whole conversation for a a a
Speaker 3: whole year of conversation on a variety of things. I
Speaker 3: will say this. You mentioned the Reds. That's the same
Speaker 3: organization who's president of Baseball operations told Mark Sheldon and
Speaker 3: the media today that quote, our twenty twenty six payroll
Speaker 3: will be around the same as our payroll from twenty
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Speaker 3: hour news in Lexington, Let's talk Bengals in the trade deadline. Joe,
Speaker 3: what do you know?
Speaker 7: Hey, Lance, thanks for having me on, but what's on
Speaker 7: your mind? Well, you know, I love the term I
Speaker 7: can show you better than I can tell you. And
Speaker 7: I would show Duke Tobin Blackburn and my Brown family
Speaker 7: the anguish and the parody of the Commons fan is
Speaker 7: next time Cincinnati has a home game, the seats would
Speaker 7: be empty. And uh the reason I say that is,
Speaker 7: uh uh, the fans are the ones really losing. I mean, sure,
Speaker 7: the players hurt, and I get that, but they're millionaires. Okay,
Speaker 7: they're They're going to go on about their day and
Speaker 7: I know they want to win, but the front office
Speaker 7: has to go And to me, as a fan, my
Speaker 7: input Mike Brown, please sell the team because it to
Speaker 7: have the offense they have now and and to let
Speaker 7: Logan Wilson walk and and maybe that's a reflection of
Speaker 7: the problems they had with Stewart and all the hype
Speaker 7: and all the conversation with him and and all the
Speaker 7: things said during the off season with Trey it's it's
Speaker 7: just toxic. And uh, it's it's for the common fan.
Speaker 7: My heart really goes out. You know, I do well,
Speaker 7: but there's a lot of fans that that don't. There's
Speaker 7: a lot of fans that that just you know, barely
Speaker 7: make it a third.
Speaker 3: Had sure, but but Joe. Also, what you're asking is
Speaker 3: for them, those individuals who spent their harder money on
Speaker 3: tickets to not go. What I mean, what that seems counterproductive.
Speaker 3: You've already got the tickets. Why would you not use them?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 7: Well, well I get that a typeset. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 7: I'm not what I'm what I'm saying is is they
Speaker 7: I don't really see them actually caring about the fan
Speaker 7: base because if they did, they would have somebody that
Speaker 7: could draft talent. They could have somebody that that would
Speaker 7: really get impact players. And they fail to do so.
Speaker 7: And it's not just one year, it's a year after year.
Speaker 7: I'm sure they you know, blind squirrel can finding the
Speaker 7: corn once in a while. I get that. And you know,
Speaker 7: I mean Zach Tiller, you know, I think he's a
Speaker 7: great coach. But the Logan Wilson thing and and the
Speaker 7: fact that they don't they're not aggressive like in the draft,
Speaker 7: like trading up and maybe getting that defensive player or
Speaker 7: like Rokwan Smith the Baltimore God, do we even go
Speaker 7: after players in the trade.
Speaker 4: We didn't this year.
Speaker 7: I mean, so what are the Bengals, what are they
Speaker 7: saying that what they're cutting their losses and they're forgetting
Speaker 7: about this year. And you know, I don't know. And
Speaker 7: let me ask you this, did Mike Jesse Bates? Was
Speaker 7: it because I don't know? Was it the fact that
Speaker 7: Mike Brown they didn't have the money?
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, no no, they they always have the money.
Speaker 3: They have money now. They just didn't consider it. They
Speaker 3: didn't consider it value for a safety and thought they
Speaker 3: could survive without it. They're still searching for safeties back there. Yeah, Joe,
Speaker 3: I hear you feel. I feel your frustration. It comes
Speaker 3: through loud and claied. I appreciate you. Check it in tonight. Yes,
Speaker 3: all right, right, all right, thank you.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 3: I go back and I'm looking at this this column
Speaker 3: by Jason Williams again, and I just that this line
Speaker 3: is such a wonderful line, and I can't imagine it
Speaker 3: being uttered in like and I love the city I'm
Speaker 3: in and I don't want to live in New York
Speaker 3: and or Boston or Philadelphia or a place like that.
Speaker 3: But can you imagine this line in like Boston or
Speaker 3: New York or Philadelphia when it's this he says. I
Speaker 3: requested an interview with Tobin last week. Others in the
Speaker 3: local media have too. The Bengals are considering making their
Speaker 3: player personnel director available to answer questions this week. Can
Speaker 3: you imagine NFL teams in no Cities saying, you know,
Speaker 3: we are considering having our player personnel director answer questions
Speaker 3: about the state of the team. We might or might
Speaker 3: not get back to you on that.
Speaker 2: You just can't make that stuff.
Speaker 3: Up, Doc Bob Trumping next to Arneld Terrier Sports Talk
Speaker 3: presented by Kelsey Chevale. Seven hundred WLW Hey Rolling until
Speaker 3: nine tonight with rn L Carrier Sports Talk presented by
Speaker 3: Kelsey Chevrolet. It's Tuesday night. That must mean the nightcap
Speaker 3: with Gary Jeff Walker. I do believe I wanted to
Speaker 3: spend some time on Bob Trumpy and welcome you into
Speaker 3: the conversation and stories. And I spent a couple of
Speaker 3: segments last night on Bengals Lin with Dave Lapham. We
Speaker 3: remembered Trump, and that was on ESPN fifteen thirty, and
Speaker 3: it was in the eight o'clock hour, because we started
Speaker 3: on both seven hundred and ESPN fifteen thirty then broke
Speaker 3: away for UC basketball here, So only if you were
Speaker 3: listening on ESPN fifteen thirty and in the eight o'clock hour.
Speaker 3: Did you hear us talk about Trumpy last night? Pat
Speaker 3: Brennan of The Inquirer called me last night for a
Speaker 3: story he's doing on Trumpy. Sterling called me and I
Speaker 3: was on with him last night. I'm going to be
Speaker 3: on tomorrow morning from Springfield, Illinois with my guy Darren
Speaker 3: Pritchard of sports Radio fourteen fifty in Springfield, where Trump
Speaker 3: is from and where his family is is revered. And
Speaker 3: Darren said, I'd love to get you on and talk
Speaker 3: about Trump because he is such a beloved figure here
Speaker 3: in his family. And I said absolutely, and I kind
Speaker 3: of like I thought about holding this off until eight,
Speaker 3: and then I was weighing, do I really want to
Speaker 3: talk more Bengals for another half hour? Do I want
Speaker 3: to get into Trumpy now at the midway part of
Speaker 3: the show and allow you some storytelling time? And let's
Speaker 3: do it now, And the phones are open at five one, three, seven,
Speaker 3: four nine seven one eight hundred. The Big One I
Speaker 3: wrote about this, I tweeted this out, had posted it
Speaker 3: at seven hundred WLW dot com and on my Facebook page.
Speaker 3: I'll I'll give you my biggest takeaways and moments and
Speaker 3: memories with Bob Trumpy and they go back as as
Speaker 3: a kid at Wilmington College in training camp and I
Speaker 3: would have been ten eleven years old standing along the
Speaker 3: ropes of Bengals training camp and I got Bob Trumpy's autograph.
Speaker 3: I still have it. I collect did Bob Trumpy's football cards?
Speaker 3: Still have them? And when he made the move and
Speaker 3: transitioned from player to broadcaster, and he actually made it
Speaker 3: while he was playing, he became must listen to radio
Speaker 3: for me and for fans of Cincinnati. And if you
Speaker 3: wanted to know what was going on and what he
Speaker 3: thought about it and what you should think about it,
Speaker 3: you tuned into sports talk at six o'clock here with
Speaker 3: Bob Trumpy in a day and age where there were
Speaker 3: very limited platforms broadcast platforms that were not podcast. It
Speaker 3: wasn't oh I missed Trump, I'll catch it the next day.
Speaker 3: It was you found your radio at six o'clock because
Speaker 3: the gospel of Trumpy was about to begin, and he
Speaker 3: had he had a voice and a presence on the
Speaker 3: radio like no one before, and no one sins. I
Speaker 3: always called him the godfather of sports talk. He created
Speaker 3: it and listening to it as a eleven twelve thirteen
Speaker 3: year old. He sounded big, and he sounded important, and
Speaker 3: he attracted big and important guest. I always laugh and
Speaker 3: marvel and you'll hear him tell this story a little
Speaker 3: bit later on and a clip by having the archives
Speaker 3: of what he had Bob Knight on and he had
Speaker 3: him for an hour one night, and Bob made the
Speaker 3: decision to cancel all the commercials. We're going to commercial
Speaker 3: free all Bob Knight for the hour. That was the
Speaker 3: power of Trumpy in multiple ways, that Bob Knight would
Speaker 3: give him an hour. Can you imagine Bob Knight giving
Speaker 3: anybody an hour, especially media, And yet he did. And
Speaker 3: can you imagine I'll tell you what. I could do
Speaker 3: an interview one night with somebody for an hour and
Speaker 3: say cancel the commercials. I would not be invited back
Speaker 3: the next day. My key card would go red. You
Speaker 3: know I always joke I work on a day to day.
Speaker 3: Does my key card turn green? I'm good to go
Speaker 3: one day, it'll turn red. If I had tried that,
Speaker 3: it would have gone red. Rest assured you did what
Speaker 3: you blew out all the commercials and kept the guests
Speaker 3: for the entire hour. Bob Trumpy had opinions. Oh did
Speaker 3: he have opinions? And he was right and you were
Speaker 3: wrong all the time. I always kind of joked it
Speaker 3: was kind of in the mold of trump I always joked,
Speaker 3: I don't say things I don't work on my show
Speaker 3: and prepare and do the research so I can say
Speaker 3: things that are wrong. And I always joked that in
Speaker 3: terms of that's something Bob Trumpet would say. He was
Speaker 3: never wrong, and it was part of the beauty of
Speaker 3: Trumpet was infuriating. Growing up. I called his show once
Speaker 3: a week. I once called him. I was probably fourteen
Speaker 3: years old. I called Sports Talk from our family vacation.
Speaker 3: We had gone to Keith Cod and I called him
Speaker 3: to talk rats. In nineteen eighty five, I would have
Speaker 3: been eighteen years old. I called him and we went
Speaker 3: round and round and round arguing about playing time for
Speaker 3: Buddy Bell over Wayne crenchike The Reds had traded for Bell.
Speaker 3: Wayne Crenchikey was having a career year. They benched cren Chickey.
Speaker 3: They started Bell, and you could look it up. Bell,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna guess for his first fifty games, hit like
Speaker 3: a buck eighty and I just lost my mind that
Speaker 3: you you could take a guy out of the lineup
Speaker 3: who was having a career year and keep playing Buddy
Speaker 3: Bell who was hitting one eighty, and we went right
Speaker 3: around and he hung up on me. And incredibly, you know,
Speaker 3: eighteen fifteen years later I was working with him. We
Speaker 3: co hosted the Friday afternoon Bengals pep Rally show. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna say from I know it had to be ninety
Speaker 3: nine because that was Achille Smith. And oh did we
Speaker 3: have some shows about Achille Smith. I remember Trumpy. One
Speaker 3: time we were talking about what was wrong with Achille
Speaker 3: Smith and Trumpy and I'm paraphrasing, declared he ran he
Speaker 3: ran twenty six plays and he messed up eighteen of them.
Speaker 15: He's an idiot, idiot, I said it there, and I'm like,
Speaker 15: but this is Bob Trumpy and we all we did
Speaker 15: those shows every Friday.
Speaker 3: And you talk about at a time where the Bengals
Speaker 3: are really, really bad, there were Fridays where we sat,
Speaker 3: we travel around to the different Buffalo Wild Wings was
Speaker 3: every Friday afternoon from three to six. This would have
Speaker 3: been this was eleven sixty Bob or thirteen sixty or
Speaker 3: whatever station it was at the time, and it would
Speaker 3: be me and trumpy, and there might be a manager,
Speaker 3: and there might be somebody a server, and somebody in
Speaker 3: the kitchen. There was like six people in the place
Speaker 3: on Fridays during real bad Bengals seasons. You could hear
Speaker 3: the dishes clanging in the background in the kitchen. It
Speaker 3: was so quiet in the place. But oh, we were
Speaker 3: talking Bengals. And the thing I always remember about working
Speaker 3: with Trump he was he would he would have a
Speaker 3: way of peering over his glasses and many times through
Speaker 3: the cloud of smoke from his chain smoking, because then
Speaker 3: back then old that he smoked cigarettes. I mean in
Speaker 3: a show, he might smoke two packs of cigarettes and
Speaker 3: a show and he would look at me down those
Speaker 3: glasses on his nose and through the smoke, and I
Speaker 3: have said something and he would say, you clearly never
Speaker 3: played the game. And that was like his go to line.
Speaker 3: And I would get in on kicks where I like,
Speaker 3: like after Sunday, I would have done this where I
Speaker 3: would have demanded the Bengals make a statement. I would
Speaker 3: have said during the show, they need to make a statement,
Speaker 3: they need to do you know, fill in the blank,
Speaker 3: and he would just laugh in that big, booming, deep voice, statement,
Speaker 3: Oh you and your statements. Ah, you want to do
Speaker 3: is make statements. And I'll never forget. One Friday snowstorm
Speaker 3: hit and I remember saying, all right, I've got to
Speaker 3: get to the show today. I'm going to I left
Speaker 3: three hours early that day to get to the show,
Speaker 3: and it was at a Buffalo Wild Wing somewhere somewhere
Speaker 3: up around this vicinity. I would think it was in Ohio.
Speaker 3: I had to cross from northern Kentucky into it was
Speaker 3: up in this part of the woods, so to speak.
Speaker 3: And I was late for the show because the traffic
Speaker 3: and the snow. I left three hours early, and I
Speaker 3: was late. And I got to tell you sitting in
Speaker 3: the car in a snowstorm and hearing that Bob Trumpy
Speaker 3: had arrived and started the show without me, And he
Speaker 3: proceeded to spend the half hour that I was late
Speaker 3: just crushing me, just at absolutely obliterating me for being late.
Speaker 3: I mean it was he just killed me. Never forget
Speaker 3: that we sparred at times. We had knockdown, drag out
Speaker 3: battles on the air. We had knocked down drag out
Speaker 3: battles off the air. We did the Roundtable show together,
Speaker 3: and I think two thousand and ten for a year.
Speaker 3: But I've always said the defining moment of our relationship
Speaker 3: came about twenty two years ago, and that's when Casey
Speaker 3: was diagnosed with leukemia. Casey was two and a half
Speaker 3: at the time, and Bob Trumpy was the first person
Speaker 3: that called me and he offered whatever we needed, however
Speaker 3: he could help, and he offered his bone marrow. He said,
Speaker 3: if you need a donor, I'm in And I will
Speaker 3: never forget that. You know, It's been sixteen years since
Speaker 3: I realized the dream of becoming the host of this show,
Speaker 3: and I have never once tried to be like him
Speaker 3: or do a show like him, because I had no shot.
Speaker 3: He is truly one of a kind, and I will
Speaker 3: say in doing this show, I've always felt an obligation
Speaker 3: to do the show justice because of what he'd built
Speaker 3: with this show. So I call him the godfather. Without him,
Speaker 3: sports Talk would have eventually arrived in this city. I
Speaker 3: remember when it became a thing on WFAN and New
Speaker 3: York twenty four hours sports Talk that was incredible. It
Speaker 3: would have eventually been here in some way, shape or form.
Speaker 3: But what Bob Trumpy created in his own vision, built
Speaker 3: and delivered if you, if you weren't around, try to
Speaker 3: understand how incredible it was. And it's why I love
Speaker 3: to play clips and interviews, and you're gonna hear him
Speaker 3: the rest of the show in parts. I like to
Speaker 3: play his interviews and clips from the archives of Sports
Speaker 3: Talk because I want listeners reminded of his greatness, or
Speaker 3: I want people to hear his greatness maybe for the
Speaker 3: first time. He was to me and always will be
Speaker 3: larger than life. I can't believe he's gone. Thoughts and
Speaker 3: prayers to his wife Pat and sons Matthew and Jason,
Speaker 3: and I'm just incredibly sad. Let's take a time out.
Speaker 3: We'll come back. I've got some things he has said,
Speaker 3: some stories he shared over the years. I'm going to
Speaker 3: let you hear. I would love to hear from you
Speaker 3: thoughts and reflections and memories of Trump as a Bengal
Speaker 3: and as the host of Sports Talk and as an
Speaker 3: NBC broadcaster ahead RNL Carr Air Sports Talk presented by
Speaker 3: Kelsey Chevale seven hundred WW close it in on eight o'clock.
Speaker 3: Man time is flying tonight news and an update on
Speaker 3: election Day coming up in a matter of minutes. Let
Speaker 3: me begin a series, Evan Man, I can't wait to
Speaker 3: hear some of these stories I see popping up online.
Speaker 3: We'll get to your calls shortly. Let's also set the scene,
Speaker 3: and this is part of a conversation I had to
Speaker 3: sit down I had with Bob I'm going to say
Speaker 3: back in maybe as far back as like twenty eighteen,
Speaker 3: asking him about the history of sports talk. Listen to
Speaker 3: him describe how sports talk the idea came about.
Speaker 16: While driving around southern California. There's a thousand radio stations
Speaker 16: out there, and I turned one on and Bill Russell,
Speaker 16: the Hall of Fame center for the Boston Celtics and
Speaker 16: out of the University of San Francisco was doing a
Speaker 16: talk show, doing a sports talk show. I got slightly hooked,
Speaker 16: not on what he was doing or what he was saying,
Speaker 16: but he was having a good time. So I talked
Speaker 16: to my wife. We're driving somewhere, and I said to her,
Speaker 16: you know I could do that. That was the moment
Speaker 16: where I thought I would at least explore the possibility
Speaker 16: of doing it here in Cincinnati. Now here's what was
Speaker 16: working against me. LA has what twenty million people a
Speaker 16: lot of sports. How do you accommodate that in Cincinnati.
Speaker 16: And then I thought, wait a minute, half of the
Speaker 16: audience is the Pacific Ocean in Los Angeles at least
Speaker 16: in Cincinnati. You come to Cincinnati in the same general
Speaker 16: area you got Columbus, Lexington, Louisville, certainly, Indianapolis, Bloomington. Wait
Speaker 16: a minute, we got a lot of sports. So that
Speaker 16: was the birth of the idea, just riding around in
Speaker 16: southern California traffic listening to Bill Russel go ahead.
Speaker 3: That idea is then presented to this station seven hunterd
Speaker 3: WLWS Charlie Murdoch and rejected.
Speaker 16: Why Well, I had been a radio salesman for this
Speaker 16: radio station in the early seventies when they were at
Speaker 16: ninth in Elm so I knew some people in this building.
Speaker 16: But this is the only radio station that I really
Speaker 16: ever listened to other than WSAI and our good buddy
Speaker 16: Jim Scott. So I presented it to Charlie Murdoch, and
Speaker 16: Charlie was one of those guys that his face was
Speaker 16: like a billboard you knew immediately yes or no. And
Speaker 16: that's what I was hoping for. That I had see
Speaker 16: in his face the excitement, and there wasn't the excitement,
Speaker 16: and he said, give me twenty four hours and I'll
Speaker 16: get a hold of you. He called me in twenty
Speaker 16: four hours and said no, I was crushed. So the
Speaker 16: only other place that had the strength that is a
Speaker 16: fifty thousand watt station was WCKY, which I had never
Speaker 16: listened to, primarily because they played Montovani, Steve Lawrence, and
Speaker 16: Igor May records. I think it's fair to say that
Speaker 16: it would be described as elevator music.
Speaker 3: And you're still playing at the time, you're still active.
Speaker 16: It was the off season after after Actually it was
Speaker 16: the off season after seventy four. By the way, I
Speaker 16: learned a couple of years later that Charlie Murdoch loved
Speaker 16: the idea, the Bengals did not, and that they made
Speaker 16: the decision.
Speaker 3: Part of a conversation I had with Bob Trumpy about
Speaker 3: seven eight years ago. Will turn into the eight o'clock hour,
Speaker 3: Grab your calls and you will hear Bob tell the
Speaker 3: story of when his broadcast career officially changed in transition
Speaker 3: from player to broadcaster when he took on the Bengals.
Speaker 3: That is next RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey
Speaker 3: Chevrolet seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 1: The following takes place between eight pm and nine pm.
Speaker 3: All right, let's finish strong, got an hour to get
Speaker 3: it done before I hand things off to Gary Jeff Walker.
Speaker 3: I'm alliance McAllister, thanks for being here. We started this
Speaker 3: at the midway point of the show, and I figured
Speaker 3: tonight would be it would be only fitting to spend
Speaker 3: some time sharing stories, swapping stories of the former Bengal
Speaker 3: legend and broadcasting pioneer Bob Trumpy after his passing over
Speaker 3: the weekend. You'll hear some more clips of stories he
Speaker 3: told me over the years throughout this hour. But I
Speaker 3: want to hear something from you as well, said to reading,
Speaker 3: Hey Dave, welcome to sports Talk.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 17: I'm climbing up brother Scott's car Sunday morning and uh
Speaker 17: Dan Horde and uh we AFP we're talking about Trump.
Speaker 17: You in And I said, don't tell me Bob trumps
Speaker 17: and Scott said yeah. I said, wow, it's it's uh
Speaker 17: at of not going around lately. It is great one's dinalds.
Speaker 17: But I said, hopefully the Bengals can at least they
Speaker 17: win this game in his honor. And we know how
Speaker 17: that turned out that the Bacle. But yeah, it was
Speaker 17: I Uh, I remember, UH. I think first of all
Speaker 17: you saying that about you would try to be nothing
Speaker 17: like and you two showed how two different styles can
Speaker 17: work so well. And I guess I wanted to say, basically,
Speaker 17: was was I think that one story? I remember I
Speaker 17: laughed you saying how he had with anyone he first
Speaker 17: calling it, and I can think I can remember my
Speaker 17: first time I did that, and it was uh at
Speaker 17: the super Bowl. At the first super Bowl. We were
Speaker 17: at the Super Bowl and UH Trump was saying something
Speaker 17: about how Isaac Curtis UH didn't go over the middle
Speaker 17: like he should. He's I think he's afraid to go
Speaker 17: over to the middle. On that interception, Ken Harrison threw and
Speaker 17: down about the goal line and the Baneles at this
Speaker 17: ball right away, and I took an issue with that,
Speaker 17: and of course he was right, and he kept arguing
Speaker 17: and he was right and everything, and.
Speaker 7: You know what a lance.
Speaker 17: I went back and since we were at the game,
Speaker 17: I I see them. I went by watching it did
Speaker 17: look like I love eyes to death. He's one of
Speaker 17: my favorites, but that looked like he was a little
Speaker 17: hasn't it going over the middle there? But so I,
Speaker 17: you know, I figured that he was uh deadly right
Speaker 17: about that, and he was the one thing I wanted
Speaker 17: to uh say about that was my brother Ken. He's
Speaker 17: been a a football coach for fifty three years in
Speaker 17: high school and uh he actually played up in Wilmington
Speaker 17: College back then when the bands trained and and he
Speaker 17: did this. He was a tight end and he was
Speaker 17: the same kind of tight end as Trump. He was
Speaker 17: my passed catching tight ending a block too, they passed.
Speaker 17: He was a three time All conference tight end. But
Speaker 17: he Trump he left his shoulder pads behind and they
Speaker 17: gave him the can they used.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 17: Of course he's first thing. He's uh maybe one number
Speaker 17: eight seventy. I know you're wearing eighty four. You're wearing trumpies.
Speaker 3: Uh how about that? Oh that's cool, that's cool, he.
Speaker 17: Said, you're doing that. It's funny because those two are
Speaker 17: now where they like his players. They're both so the
Speaker 17: same way of uh believes this. We're always right about that, right,
Speaker 17: the really nicest guys in the world, really, but just
Speaker 17: just acting like they uh yeah, they were always right
Speaker 17: and great players. And you know, Ken, he wears he
Speaker 17: has eighty four license plates for that number and well,
Speaker 17: I wanted to say real.
Speaker 3: Quickly, real quick.
Speaker 17: Yeah, I feel a real bad because I feel bad
Speaker 17: because I wanted to vote for him last year in
Speaker 17: the Rail Honor. Well I will to wind up winning,
Speaker 17: but I feel bad. Next year, I define I definitely
Speaker 17: going to vote for him. And I just think they
Speaker 17: should put them all those guys in right now and
Speaker 17: start freshing the guys who were on them on there
Speaker 17: for a while.
Speaker 3: A Hey, Dave, I got to run. Thanks Buddy good
Speaker 3: hearing from me. I've said from the start they need
Speaker 3: a catch up class for the Ring of Honor. They're
Speaker 3: never going to catch up. And sadly, Bob Trump he's
Speaker 3: not in the Ring of Honor and he's now passed,
Speaker 3: and it's just it's it's just it's not right. Newport
Speaker 3: we go, don You're on seven hundred w L W.
Speaker 5: Hey Lan.
Speaker 18: Yeah, this goes back about seven years now. So I
Speaker 18: was a jeweler for thirty six years and one day
Speaker 18: Bob walks in with this watch battery to be changed.
Speaker 18: So come room and start tell yeah, it takes about
Speaker 18: ten minutes or so to change the battery. So well,
Speaker 18: don't you have that Bengals Edition Rolex, you know you
Speaker 18: don't need a battery for that. And he says, I'd
Speaker 18: be lucky to get a cracker Jack watch from that.
Speaker 18: He said, yeah, you know how he used to say, yeah, right.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, absolutely, So that's.
Speaker 7: So that's what he said.
Speaker 18: The one thing led to another. And I had a
Speaker 18: had a condition. I know you do too. I don't
Speaker 18: know if it's the exact same thing, but I had
Speaker 18: the exact same condition as Sam wise cardiomyopathy. Wow, and
Speaker 18: it's uh I had for about fifteen years. It's anybody
Speaker 18: they had heart issues knows that. It's all about that
Speaker 18: jaction fraction. Okay, that that number, and that number for
Speaker 18: me had gotten down to about ten to fifteen percent
Speaker 18: when I saw him. And I'd been fighting the transplant
Speaker 18: word for petrified of it for a long time, and
Speaker 18: I just couldn't wrap my mind around it. I kept
Speaker 18: trying to stem cell you name it. I was there
Speaker 18: trying to get it done, and you know, in the end,
Speaker 18: it just can't fight it when it gets to that.
Speaker 18: But same thing as Sam. So he says to me,
Speaker 18: right there, Hey, what's your number? But what are you
Speaker 18: doing here?
Speaker 7: First of all?
Speaker 18: And I saw I'm working. I mean, I just got it,
Speaker 18: so gonna work. Finally goes no, no, you've got to
Speaker 18: get this done. So, as you know, you don't argue
Speaker 18: with Bob right when you're looking at it. So the
Speaker 18: very next day, Sam wife calls me, wow, wow, and
Speaker 18: I thought, that's really that's amazing. And I'm telling you
Speaker 18: that conversation will offer about thirty minutes. And he changed
Speaker 18: my mind. And six years later I received my Christmas
Speaker 18: Day of all days.
Speaker 3: Nineteen What a story. Oh I got chills.
Speaker 18: Yeah, No, he was and he and that wasn't the
Speaker 18: first time I talked to him. And uh, but Bob,
Speaker 18: I mean, you know, that's part of them. I think
Speaker 18: a lot of people thought he was a hard ass
Speaker 18: and stubborn and just really you know, it was a
Speaker 18: no at all. Yeah, they didn't really see the.
Speaker 3: Side exactly exactly right, very caring.
Speaker 18: So that anyway, that's a that's a feel good story
Speaker 18: about about John.
Speaker 3: That's great to hear. I'm glad you shared it. Thanks
Speaker 3: for checking in.
Speaker 7: Yep, thank you.
Speaker 3: All right, we'll continue. I've got another story you'll hear.
Speaker 3: Bob tell a story about going toe to toe with
Speaker 3: the organization after he had retired that next plus more
Speaker 3: of your calls. RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey
Speaker 3: Chevrolet seven hundred WLW A twenty two seven hundred WLW
Speaker 3: R and L Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet.
Speaker 3: I'm Lance McAllister. Thanks for tagging along time. Thanks for
Speaker 3: sharing the stories, the memories of Bob Trump you passed
Speaker 3: over the weekend. This is this is one of the
Speaker 3: more amazing stories he told me over the years. This
Speaker 3: is when he knew he had officially transitioned from a
Speaker 3: player Bengals player to a broadcaster at the defining moment,
Speaker 3: and what it did to his relationship with the organization.
Speaker 3: This story, he told me, was about seven years ago.
Speaker 3: It happened back in nineteen seventy eight when the Bengals
Speaker 3: fired Tiger Johnson. Listen to Bob's account of what transpired
Speaker 3: and how he reacted.
Speaker 16: I was sitting at a sponsor Barleick Horns with a
Speaker 16: bunch of salespeople and it comes on the air that
Speaker 16: Johnson has just been fired. I was, to say the
Speaker 16: least upset. Two reasons. One, Tiger was, along with Bill Walsh,
Speaker 16: the two greatest influences on my professional career at Walsh
Speaker 16: kept selling me and Tiger used me properly. I was
Speaker 16: not a big tight end. I was a quick tight end,
Speaker 16: a fast tight end. I could trick him. I wasn't
Speaker 16: going to blow somebody off the line of scrimmage. Tiger
Speaker 16: helped me with that. I was not happy. The other
Speaker 16: factor was I was a teammate of that. All those
Speaker 16: guys down there the year before, I had contacts. The
Speaker 16: contacts had been telling me some things. I knew some
Speaker 16: things that Tiger Johnson did not take criticism or questioning
Speaker 16: or anything from anybody, including Paul Well. And there had
Speaker 16: been some blow ups down there, and I was aware
Speaker 16: of them. So I went back to the radio station
Speaker 16: and I'd never really written an editorial or anything like that,
Speaker 16: and I wrote this two page editorial about what I thought,
Speaker 16: I knew, what I knew, and how terrible this was
Speaker 16: to disrupt this football team with this firing. So I
Speaker 16: that was the first quandary in my broadcast career. If
Speaker 16: I do this as a former player. I mean, I
Speaker 16: got to check from these people about eight months ago.
Speaker 16: What's going to happen?
Speaker 5: Geez?
Speaker 16: What should I have? Shouldn't I? So I went into
Speaker 16: Phil McDonald, who was the general manager, and I said,
Speaker 16: I'm stuck. He said, how can I help? And I said,
Speaker 16: I just wrote this and this is my initial reaction
Speaker 16: to the firing of Bill Johnson. And he said, mind
Speaker 16: if I read it? Said no, absolutely, That's why I'm
Speaker 16: in the air fort. So he read it and he said,
Speaker 16: what's your plan? And I said, well, I'm not sure,
Speaker 16: but I didn't write that to throw it away. I
Speaker 16: write that. I wrote that to announce to Cincinnati what
Speaker 16: the hell is going on here? And he said, well,
Speaker 16: you got to decide. Are you an next Cincinnati Bengal
Speaker 16: or a broadcaster. Makes your choice, I'll stand behind you
Speaker 16: either way. I went on the air and read the editorial.
Speaker 16: I was very proud of it when I was done.
Speaker 16: It was scathing. It was Paul Is trying to do
Speaker 16: to Bill Johnson what Art Modell did to him in Cleveland.
Speaker 16: That is, do things that a general manager should not do.
Speaker 16: He shouldn't be bumping the head coach's head and so
Speaker 16: on and so forth. I'm done with the editorial calls
Speaker 16: program ins. I made a promise to myself that I
Speaker 16: was not going to hide from that editorial. So the
Speaker 16: next day, I go to practice, and I know what's
Speaker 16: I'm that practice, and I'm know where I'm supposed to
Speaker 16: stand and everything, so I got to spend it for you.
Speaker 16: So I'm standing on the practice field when the team
Speaker 16: and the coaches take the field, with Homer Rice as
Speaker 16: the head coach. I don't see Paul, I don't see Mike.
Speaker 16: I do see the equipment man and the trainer. Everybody
Speaker 16: comes out. I'm standing there watching practice, and then suddenly
Speaker 16: Paul is right next to me, and he ripped me.
Speaker 16: He absolutely ripped me, and I stood there and took it.
Speaker 16: I said, Paul, there's nothing I said in that editorial
Speaker 16: last night that's untrue. You know that I don't like
Speaker 16: what you did. I don't know how this is going
Speaker 16: to work. The effect on the players on this team
Speaker 16: is going to be terrible. And I stand by what
Speaker 16: I said. And the practice ins and then kickers are
Speaker 16: out there kicking, and so practice has extended a little bit.
Speaker 16: And for some reason, Bo Harris, a linebacker on the team,
Speaker 16: walks by me and he says, you know what, Trump,
Speaker 16: we didn't accomplish much today except for counting that Paul
Speaker 16: stuck his finger in your face. One hundred and four
Speaker 16: times and he walks in. So after the practice is over,
Speaker 16: everybody leaves and everybody's shaking their head at me. And
Speaker 16: I went down the rest of the week, and that
Speaker 16: was on Tuesday. I went Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. I don't
Speaker 16: know who they played on Saturday, but I was not
Speaker 16: going to be labeled as an assassin as a sniper.
Speaker 16: So that changed everything in my broadcast career. I didn't
Speaker 16: know where it was going, I didn't know how it
Speaker 16: was going to unfold, but at that point my whole
Speaker 16: outlook on broadcasting changed for the positive. I took on
Speaker 16: the big guy. I meant what I said. I didn't
Speaker 16: make anything up.
Speaker 3: Bob Trumpy and a story he told me back in
Speaker 3: twenty eighteen on the Tales of Sports talk show, we
Speaker 3: did one night I could squeeze in one move, four
Speaker 3: to the bottom of the AAR. I mentioned Bob Knight.
Speaker 3: Listen to Trumpy tell the story of having Bob Knight
Speaker 3: on one night and keeping him for the entire hour.
Speaker 3: Here's Trumpy.
Speaker 16: I played high school basketball. I thought I was pretty good.
Speaker 16: Was recruited by a few colleges, so I thought I
Speaker 16: knew a lot about basketball, and I used to talk
Speaker 16: about Indiana and this is when Ken Benson.
Speaker 3: And Quinn Buckner.
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jim Ferguson, who was the PR director
Speaker 16: for the Cincinnati Red, was a longtime friend of Bobby Knight.
Speaker 16: Apparently Fergie called Bob Knight and told Knight, you know
Speaker 16: you got a big fan over here in this trumpet.
Speaker 16: Gad it's doing the sports talk show. And uh, I
Speaker 16: get a call one day, uh, one day this week, Uh,
Speaker 16: would you like to have Bobby Knight on? And it
Speaker 16: was somebody at Indiana And I said this is a joke,
Speaker 16: and uh, they said, no, it's not a joke. Jim
Speaker 16: Ferguson informed by coach Knight and would you like to
Speaker 16: have them on? Hell? Yes, So you know what I did.
Speaker 16: I canceled all commercials.
Speaker 3: Only power to cancel all commercials.
Speaker 16: I had that ability to cancel all commercials. So Bobby
Speaker 16: Knight was on for an hour commercial free. No, he
Speaker 16: was absolutely wrong. No news, no weather, no nothing, no commercials.
Speaker 16: He was on for an hour.
Speaker 3: Unbelievable. Let's get a check on news when we come
Speaker 3: back a night that if you were listening, you'll never
Speaker 3: forget Bob never. He in telling this story to me,
Speaker 3: he got emotional and broke down. It was then night
Speaker 3: he kept a caller on the line who was threatening
Speaker 3: to take her own life. You'll hear him tell that
Speaker 3: story as we continue. After I check on news with
Speaker 3: Arnel Carrier. Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet, seven hundred WLW. Hey, Gary,
Speaker 3: Jeff Walker is in at nine. He's got the nightcap
Speaker 3: served up nine to midnight. I'm back at you tomorrow
Speaker 3: after Red's Hot Stove the return of the Red's Hot
Speaker 3: Stove League Show six o'clock tomorrow night. Here on seven
Speaker 3: hundred WLW. I will follow from seven to nine o'clock.
Speaker 3: We are remembering and paying tribute to the godfather of
Speaker 3: sports talk, the Bengals legend, the broadcast pioneer, the sad
Speaker 3: passing of Bob Trumpy over the weekend. Let's grab some
Speaker 3: more memories and stories and Anderson. Hey, Gary, Welcome to
Speaker 3: Sports Talk.
Speaker 14: By Lance. This is a great tribute to Trump. Thank you,
Speaker 14: Nic you do this.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 14: I There's a lot of series stories and a lot
Speaker 14: of great When I have kind of a anecdote, it
Speaker 14: goes to what I thought, how genuine Bob was and
Speaker 14: always admired him as a player and what he accomplished
Speaker 14: as a broadcaster. But when he was first starting his
Speaker 14: sports talk show, he would joke about his studio audience
Speaker 14: and he had his producer Fringers fuller if they're ready,
Speaker 14: and would always have things going on with these supposed
Speaker 14: studio audience. So one day a friend of mine and
Speaker 14: I decided to call Bob and it said can we
Speaker 14: come down and be part of the studio audience? And
Speaker 14: and he said, absolutely, come on down, six o'clock. Here's
Speaker 14: where you go. We went in tiny studio and there
Speaker 14: was Bob. He could not have been more gracious and
Speaker 14: changed smoke yea and drank coffee through the whole. It
Speaker 14: was fascinating to watching Warwick along with his producer, And
Speaker 14: again it just goes to how genuine he really was,
Speaker 14: because he certainly didn't have to do that and let
Speaker 14: us come in because the whole thing was a gag.
Speaker 3: Anyway, Oh, what a great story. Oh I love that.
Speaker 3: I love that. Thank you for sharing you, Bet.
Speaker 14: I appreciate being on and what you're doing tonight.
Speaker 3: You got it. Thank you. I appreciate you listening tonight.
Speaker 3: And I even haven't even had time. I wanted to
Speaker 3: play a clip, but I don't have time for it tonight.
Speaker 3: At least of the whole origin of his hot Fldge
Speaker 3: Sunday bets. He would make bets with callers on games
Speaker 3: and it was for a hot Fledge Sunday and he
Speaker 3: would pay him off when the studios were in Mount
Speaker 3: Adams at the UDF. You go down to the lobby
Speaker 3: of the station and directly across the street was the
Speaker 3: UDF and that's where he paid off or got the
Speaker 3: the hot Fudge Sundays that were part of the part
Speaker 3: of sports talk in Western Hills. Hey Rick, welcome to
Speaker 3: seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 7: Hey Lance, how are you doing tonight?
Speaker 3: I'm well, thank you for calling.
Speaker 4: So here's my story.
Speaker 19: Yes, we had a group of six to ten couples
Speaker 19: who would go to Indian Rock Speech in the spring.
Speaker 4: And make our way to Al Lopez for a spring
Speaker 4: training game or two or five two and Trump would
Speaker 4: do sports talk on a weekly basis.
Speaker 3: From the pool side incredible.
Speaker 7: At the Intercontmental Hotel.
Speaker 19: Incredible, which I don't I don't think it's any longer there.
Speaker 19: But one of one of our one of the nameless
Speaker 19: kids who who was very athletic somehow climbed the tree
Speaker 19: over the top of Trumpy when.
Speaker 7: He was interviewing Dick Wagner. And he was.
Speaker 4: Distracted incredibly by this by this ten year old kid
Speaker 4: and the tree right above where he was broadcasting.
Speaker 7: And they went to a break.
Speaker 4: And Truppy said, can you get the damn monkey out
Speaker 4: of the tree. And security came in and moved us along,
Speaker 4: and he was so gracious.
Speaker 7: You know. We had the kid go up.
Speaker 4: And apologize to him during the commercial break, and it
Speaker 4: was all was good, but it was he was interviewing
Speaker 4: Dick Wagner.
Speaker 3: Oh, I've never heard that story. That is a great story.
Speaker 4: I don't think the Intercontinental is there anymore.
Speaker 7: But it was a fabulous setting for sports talk.
Speaker 4: And then Bob Herzog, who was a competitor on another station,
Speaker 4: after doing the Trumpy interview, went to Herzog's room to
Speaker 4: do his interview on his sports talk show, and we
Speaker 4: followed and knocked on the door, tried to talk to
Speaker 4: Dick Wagner, but he wouldn't talk to us.
Speaker 3: Fash What a great story. Thank you for sharing the story,
Speaker 3: Thank you for listening tonight.
Speaker 7: Thank you all right.
Speaker 3: I love that I never heard that story before. Here
Speaker 3: is one that this night. It is still thinking back,
Speaker 3: hard to fathom what happened and how Bob Trump he
Speaker 3: handled it. You were going to hear him explain the
Speaker 3: story of the night a caller was threatening to take
Speaker 3: her own life and Bob kept her on the line.
Speaker 3: Here is that story, as told to me on the
Speaker 3: show we did tales from Sports Talk a number of
Speaker 3: years ago. Take a listen. I remember this and I
Speaker 3: remember listening to this night. I want to see November
Speaker 3: of nineteen eighty three and the emotions of dealing with
Speaker 3: a female caller. I believe she was the first caller
Speaker 3: of the night. Her name was Sugar, and she was
Speaker 3: threatening to take her life and.
Speaker 16: She called you No. She called Doug Kidd, who is.
Speaker 3: The producer who answered that first person answered the line.
Speaker 16: Here's the way it happened. We're three three Hpoor Street.
Speaker 16: We got about two or three minutes before the show
Speaker 16: starts and Doug comes. I put my head, He motions
Speaker 16: and I put my head set on and he said, uh, listen,
Speaker 16: there's this lady on the I got on the phone.
Speaker 16: She called me about ten or fifteen minutes ago, and
Speaker 16: she's in trouble, and I don't know what to do.
Speaker 16: I don't know what we should do, but I don't
Speaker 16: want to hang up. That's the smartest thing that anybody
Speaker 16: did that night. So I told put her in with me.
Speaker 16: I put my head set on and I start talking
Speaker 16: to this lady. This is on the air. Off at
Speaker 16: this point, No, this is off the air. It's like
Speaker 16: ninety seconds before six o'clock, so it's not on the air.
Speaker 16: So I start talking to this lady. And I still
Speaker 16: don't know her name, but I named her Sugar, just
Speaker 16: so I can talk to her. And I start talking,
Speaker 16: and two and a half hours go by, and I
Speaker 16: was so concentrating on dealing with this lady that I
Speaker 16: was not paying attention to what was going on around me.
Speaker 16: And I frankly had no idea that ninety seconds had
Speaker 16: expired and that we were live on the air. I
Speaker 16: didn't know that. And then I looked up and I'd
Speaker 16: say there were half a dozen Cincinnati police officers in
Speaker 16: with Doug. And I looked up and I thought, wait
Speaker 16: a minute, what is this? And then they started putting
Speaker 16: notes up on the window. Don't put her in hold,
Speaker 16: don't hang up, I'll keep talking. So I just kept
Speaker 16: doing that. I've never listened to it. It still makes
Speaker 16: me emotional. I mean, every night you talk to somebody,
Speaker 16: and some night you're the only person that person talks to.
Speaker 16: And that's the feeling I got from this lady. And
Speaker 16: then I look up and my wife is standing there
Speaker 16: with her best friend. And I didn't know what I
Speaker 16: was doing except having a conversation with this woman. And
Speaker 16: finally her son picked up the phone. Her son walked
Speaker 16: in on her. I don't know if he was listening
Speaker 16: to the show. I have no clue. I still don't
Speaker 16: know her name. I've never listened to the show. I
Speaker 16: can't tell you how long it lasted, but it was
Speaker 16: somewhere around two and a half hours. I didn't know
Speaker 16: when I was done for the evening, if it had
Speaker 16: been broadcast or not. Doug was still sitting there, all
Speaker 16: the policemen were there, my wife was there, her best
Speaker 16: friend was there at the time, and I just kind
Speaker 16: of collapsed physically and mentally. And she was rescued. I
Speaker 16: don't I think the police showed up, found out where
Speaker 16: she was, and I don't know if she's fine. I
Speaker 16: don't know if she lasted a week, a month, another year,
Speaker 16: if she's still see.
Speaker 3: You from that moment, you never had another conversation or met.
Speaker 16: Her, No, no, or received a letter or anything. I
Speaker 16: can't remember a word I said, except for naming her Sugar.
Speaker 16: She had a dog with her whose name was Sugar.
Speaker 16: I said, can I call you Sugar? As I remember.
Speaker 16: That's all I remember that conversation. I don't know. For
Speaker 16: the life of me, I can't remember, and I frankly,
Speaker 16: I really don't want to know. All I remember is
Speaker 16: at the end of it was I was talking to her,
Speaker 16: and then suddenly another voice came on the phone, and
Speaker 16: I said, who is this? And it was I'm her son.
Speaker 16: Your mom needs help.
Speaker 3: This month back in nineteen eighty three, what what an
Speaker 3: evening on sports talk. I can't even imagine handling the
Speaker 3: way he did that night. Let's take a time. I'll
Speaker 3: come back, head downstretch, put the wraps on it, and
Speaker 3: get you ready for the night cap with Gary Jeff Walker.
Speaker 3: It is eight forty seven. This is RNL Carrier Sports
Speaker 3: Talk presented by Kelsey Chervallet on seven hundred WLW. Al
Speaker 3: Right down the stretch we go. Gary Jeff Walker's in
Speaker 3: the house. He's already in the studio to go on
Speaker 3: tonight at nine six here on seven hundred WLW. By
Speaker 3: the way, the initial twelve team college Football playoff projections
Speaker 3: are at the the bracket in the twenty five The
Speaker 3: initial rankings and then the projected twelve team bracket for
Speaker 3: the playoff field looks as follows. Your number one team
Speaker 3: in the college football playoff projections. Ohio State is one,
Speaker 3: Indiana is two, So the Big ten lands one in
Speaker 3: two at three Texas A, and M at four Alabama.
Speaker 3: This is the way the bracket. UC did not land
Speaker 3: in the top twenty five. They play BYU coming up
Speaker 3: at KNIPPERD BYUS seven. U see's off this weekend, then
Speaker 3: BYU BYU and Texas Tech play this week That is
Speaker 3: number seven BYU versus number eight Texas Tech in the
Speaker 3: college Football playoff rankings. This is the way the bracket
Speaker 3: looks at the moment. One seed Ohio State would play
Speaker 3: the winner of eight Texas Tech versus nine Oregon. Two.
Speaker 3: Indiana would play the winner of seven BYU versus ten
Speaker 3: Notre Dame three Texas A, and M gets the winner
Speaker 3: of six Ole Miss and number eleven Virginia and number
Speaker 3: four seed is Alabama, Bama getting the winner of five
Speaker 3: seed Georgia versus twelve seed Memphis. So again your top
Speaker 3: four seeds Ohio State one, Indiana two, Texas A and
Speaker 3: M three. Alabama is four U seed does not make
Speaker 3: the initial top twenty five rankings in the college football playoff.
Speaker 3: I think that is enough from there. Let's see what else.
Speaker 3: Louisville's in at fifteen, Michigan in at twenty one, and
Speaker 3: see if there's any other area teams that I'm missing
Speaker 3: or regional teams that would be it the college football
Speaker 3: Top twenty five playoff bracket. All right, let me give
Speaker 3: you one more to round out the night from the
Speaker 3: conversation I had with Bob a few years ago about
Speaker 3: the history of sports talk, and I asked him to
Speaker 3: kind of sum it all up. Here's part of that conversation.
Speaker 3: Could you have ever imagined the first time he turned
Speaker 3: on the microphone doing this for sports talk nineteen seventy six?
Speaker 3: Could you have ever imagined that sports talk would turn
Speaker 3: out the way it did in that run?
Speaker 16: You had no, absolutely not, And don't just include sports talk.
Speaker 16: I mean, I'm a kid from the middle of Illinois
Speaker 16: raising a town often hundred people, and I can put
Speaker 16: on my resume a lot of things, and one of
Speaker 16: the things I'm most proud of I got to play
Speaker 16: golf with Neil Armstrong. Huh and Jesse Owens. How about that.
Speaker 16: That's a long way from Tremont, Illinois, And however I
Speaker 16: got there, I enjoyed every minute. The only downside the
Speaker 16: time I had to be away from the family in
Speaker 16: television and my two sons growing up here in Cincinnati
Speaker 16: when I'm on the radio. They had to defend me
Speaker 16: every day in school and there were some punches thrown
Speaker 16: from my son sons out about what I said the
Speaker 16: night before on the radio. Those are the only two
Speaker 16: downsides I've ever found. All that I've ever done, I
Speaker 16: can accept the rest. Don't take on my kids, and
Speaker 16: just remember I played golf with Neil Armstrong.
Speaker 2: I see Owens? Are you serious?
Speaker 3: Bob Trumpy from Tales of Sports Talk a few years ago? Man?
Speaker 3: And am I gonna miss him? Thank you for sharing
Speaker 3: the stories tonight, and I hope you enjoyed the stories
Speaker 3: I was able to share. From our conversation, I got
Speaker 3: a feeling we'll probably put that back together for last year.
Speaker 3: We did it as like a Christmas Eve special Christmas
Speaker 3: Eve edition of Sports Talk. We may have run it
Speaker 3: on New Year's but I think we'll probably run that
Speaker 3: again as a special edition of Sports Talk, depending on
Speaker 3: the programming windows around the holidays. All of those stories
Speaker 3: together in one night. A couple of notes I'm looking
Speaker 3: at on Twitter. Congrats to the Baiden Rams girls soccer.
Speaker 3: They win one nil, one nothing over. Hobin. Baden will
Speaker 3: play the winner of Bay Village and Granville on Saturday
Speaker 3: at one o'clock at Cruse Stadium for the state championship.
Speaker 3: Congratulations and a couple of things on this date, let's
Speaker 3: see ooh this a note from the college football playoffs tonight.
Speaker 3: Ohio State is in at number one in the initial rankings.
Speaker 3: Only two number one teams in the first college football
Speaker 3: playoff rankings have gone on to win the national championship
Speaker 3: recent though twenty twenty Alabama twenty twenty one Georgia. Those
Speaker 3: were the team's number one initially when the polls came out,
Speaker 3: and winners of the national championship. All right, on this
Speaker 3: date in sports history, just a couple of notes. Nineteen
Speaker 3: seventy six baseball really changed forever. The first free agent
Speaker 3: draft took place. Twenty four players were available from thirteen
Speaker 3: different teams. Two years later, the free agency period began
Speaker 3: opening up that night, with Pete Rose leading the way
Speaker 3: after a world win recruitment. By what the Cardinals and
Speaker 3: the Braves and the Pirates and the Cardinals were going
Speaker 3: to give you like brewery, The Braves are gonna give
Speaker 3: him like stock in, like tbs. The Pirates are gonna
Speaker 3: give him race horses. Pete wound up signing, obviously, with
Speaker 3: the Philadelphia Phillies. This date, nineteen eighty, Japan's all time
Speaker 3: home run hitter Sadahara retired from professional baseball. The first
Speaker 3: baseman hit a record eight hundred and sixty eight home
Speaker 3: runs in his twenty two year career in Japan. And
Speaker 3: on this date, twenty ten, Sperky Anderson passed away at
Speaker 3: the age of seventy six in Thousand Oaks, California. You know,
Speaker 3: one of the most amazing stats about Sparky's career. Nine
Speaker 3: years as Reds manager, seventeen as the Tigers manager. Wow,
Speaker 3: all right, I wish I had more time. I don't
Speaker 3: Thanks to Joe Wadell for producing. Hope you enjoyed tonight.
Speaker 3: I very much appreciate you listening. Let's do it tomorrow
Speaker 3: night after Red's Hot Stove. I've got you seven to nine,
Speaker 3: stick around Gary, Jeff Walker's got the nightcap after News.
Speaker 3: This has been RNL Carrier sports Stock presented by Kelsey
Speaker 3: Chevalet seven hundred W out of you