1 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: Peng was with two games and two nights at home 2 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: against Saint Lewis tonight at Philadelphia tomorrow at six pm. 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: Come watch the game with me tomorrow at Archie's on 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: the South Side, joining me now of tak Hockey. He 5 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: is the two time Stanley Cup champion. The old two 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: niner Phil Bork Barty Saturday shootout lost to Columbus was 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: a mixed bag, wasn't it. I liked the fight back 8 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: from two goals don late, but the Penguins played probably 9 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: their sloppiest game this year. 10 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 2: Well in double I'm good to be on with you again, 11 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 2: and I concur there was some thing like some old 12 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 2: habits kind of creeped into their game a little bit 13 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: defensively in their own zone. They weren't all that in 14 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 2: the bag of chips. But you're exactly right that if 15 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 2: if we're gonna have games like that where it doesn't 16 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: go well for them and they're able to squeeze a 17 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 2: point out of it and rally from a two goal 18 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: deficit in the third period. 19 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 3: I'm okay with that. 20 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: I'm okay, you know. I think I think the biggest 21 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 2: thing that we want earlier on here, and I'm a 22 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 2: fan too. We just want them to compete, just compete 23 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 2: their ass off and just lay it out there on 24 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: the ice, and how the chips fall, they fall. But 25 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 2: you know, it was interesting in their postgame comments, I 26 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: think collectively as a team, they were pretty disappointed in themselves. 27 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 2: They felt like it was a great opportunity to continue 28 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 2: to climb up the ladder and chase down the surprising 29 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 2: New Jersey Devils. 30 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: I hate to see Riquel out with the broken hand, 31 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: but I'm excited to see coyven them back up. And 32 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: I'm excited to see Kindle on the top power play 33 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: because I think he has great power play instincts if. 34 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 2: I could piggyback. I'm also excited to see Philip Hoalm 35 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: been playing the left wing with Sidney Crosby, so check, 36 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 2: check and double check. I agree, let's let's start with Kindle, 37 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: who missed the last game, for that kind of load 38 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: management that they're they're going through with him and Brunick. 39 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: I'm really excited because he's a right hand shot and 40 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 2: he can shoot it. He can absolutely rip it, so 41 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 2: I wonder how much he will be that bumper guy 42 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: and the Penguins rule will work that play a lot 43 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: of times they're working from the half wall to the 44 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: goal line out to the bumper guy and let him 45 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 2: rip away. I hope he's not intimidated. I don't think 46 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 2: he will be intimidated by anything in the National Hockey League, 47 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: whether it's who he's playing with, who he's playing against, 48 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 2: or the venue. I think he's got the smarts to 49 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,119 Speaker 2: figure out it out real quick. As far as Cordinan, 50 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:28,679 Speaker 2: this is what you want to see, right Mark. You 51 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: want to see a guy that goes down that didn't 52 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: perform up to the standards that they wanted him to. 53 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 2: Goes down there. It doesn't drag the lip along the ice, 54 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: just sets lighting it up on the scoreboard and gets 55 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: the call. So you know, he's at an all time 56 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 2: high in confidence right now, I would imagine as a professional, 57 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: and it will be interesting with him Kindall and Novak 58 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: and then work a lot of time, oh with Hollander. 59 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 2: Hollander going up to the penthouse with Sid. He's a 60 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 2: guy that I don't know how much he followed the 61 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 2: Swedish Elite League, but it's a good league. And if 62 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 2: you can average a point of game in that league, 63 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: that's pretty good and score twenty six goals like he 64 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: did last year. He was the forward of the year 65 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 2: in that league, so he can put up the offense. 66 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 2: So I'm really curious to see how he's gonna be 67 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 2: on what looks like could be a full time basis 68 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 2: playing with Sin and Rusty Bourki. 69 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 4: I'm not down when the goaltending. 70 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: I'm not crazy about it either, with Jari's performance in 71 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: Florida the best exception so far, and Shiveoff's going and 72 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,119 Speaker 1: three in the shootout against Columbus made me insane. 73 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 4: I mean, stop one, for heck's sake. 74 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 2: We're on different pages here. Then, I'm a little giddy 75 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: with the way the goaltending has been I think overall, 76 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 2: I think if you take more of a thirty thousand 77 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 2: foot view, it's given you a chance to win pretty 78 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: much every single game. Would you like to shoot out 79 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: to be better? Of course, come on, you go and 80 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 2: three and all three go five hole. I get it. 81 00:03:55,920 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 2: But again, it's about to compete with those two. They've 82 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: both been competing. They they've been good early on. I 83 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: think that both goaltenders Jari and Sheet Lops have had 84 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: the ability because I think they're they're pretty confident right 85 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 2: now in their abilities as well as the team structure 86 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 2: that's in front of them. I think they have realized 87 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 2: there's still going to be some good chances against me, 88 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna have to make all the faves I'm 89 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 2: supposed to make, and realistically, I'm probably gonna have to 90 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 2: make anywhere from three to six throughout a sixty minute game. 91 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: Three to six. Really tough stace. That's the reality of 92 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 2: this team until they really figure it out defensively. 93 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: Is there going to be a number one goalie at 94 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: some point or do you think mus will just maintain 95 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: the straight rotation, which I got no problem with. 96 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 2: Funny you read in my mind, I was thinking about 97 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: that this afternoon, you know. I was just sort of like, 98 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 2: at what point would justify a goaltender getting a back 99 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 2: to back start, you know, or maybe they have just 100 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 2: you know, written it in pen the first I don't know, 101 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 2: the first forty games, half of the first half of 102 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 2: the season. No matter what happened, if you get a 103 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 2: shoutout or you let aiden, we're just going to alternate 104 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 2: it back and forth and then we'll figure it out 105 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: from there. Maybe during the Olympic break, maybe go that's 106 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 2: far I think if you're a goaltender, Mark, I think 107 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: there's a comfort zone in that. But just knowing I'm 108 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 2: going to start every other game, so that's how I prepare, 109 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 2: and I know that I can just leave it out 110 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 2: in the ice because I'm not going to play the 111 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 2: next game. And I think there's a nice camaraderie between 112 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: she lost and Jari, because I think Jari fears she lost. 113 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 2: We talked about this in training camp that I don't 114 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 2: mean that in the mean way. I mean it in 115 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 2: a healthy way. I think we should all have that 116 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 2: in our lives, a little bit look over your shoulder 117 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 2: that somebody else might be taking your job. And so 118 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 2: I think there's that healthy back and forth between Jarry 119 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 2: and she Lost. 120 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: I think Carlson's played his most fundamental hockey since coming 121 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: to the Penguins this season, and after a rough start, 122 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: I thought the Tang's played the last two or three 123 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: games pretty well. 124 00:05:58,400 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 4: What's your take on those two? 125 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: I hate this segment I'm doing with you. We can't 126 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 2: agree this much. This is bs Man. No. I like 127 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 2: fundamental hockey. I like that word, Mark, and you're right, 128 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 2: keep it simple however you want to phrase it. It's 129 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 2: effective hockey. The Eric Callison's playing, he has shown a 130 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 2: level of defensive responsibility, He has shown a level of 131 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 2: choices that are for the better of the team winning games. 132 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 2: And he hasn't a goal this year, But you know, 133 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: I don't care. I don't care because we've been doing 134 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 2: so many other things. Again, responsible, defensively, taking what it's given, 135 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 2: making that easy play, sometimes just a twenty foot out 136 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 2: of the path to get yourself out of trouble. Good, 137 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 2: let's go just risting pucks to the net. It's been 138 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 2: brilliant and it gets me jumping up and down in 139 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 2: the booth. As far as Tanger, yeah, I agree, a 140 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 2: little rocky at the start. But the one thing we 141 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: know about Tanger, if I know another Penguins defenseman for 142 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 2: as long as I've been in this organization that has 143 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 2: had as many ups and downs, but he's he's not 144 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 2: rattled by it. And that shows his mental toughness that 145 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 2: he understands, Hey, I'm going to make mistakes. Hey, people 146 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 2: are going to be critical of me, But you know what, 147 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 2: that's not going to stop me for what I do 148 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 2: my next shift, my next period, my next game. And 149 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 2: that is he competes, He competes hard. His heart's in 150 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 2: the right place. So be careful when Chris Latang has 151 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 2: a couple of bad games of bashing him, because the 152 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 2: next week you're probably going to be praising him. I 153 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 2: think people need to again widen the lens on Chrys 154 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 2: Latang and look at the complete body of work. 155 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 4: Saint Louis is in town. 156 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: What are you making the Blues who were kind of 157 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: no name outside of Bennington. 158 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 2: And Goal, I say they are as ripe as ripe 159 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 2: can be. There are two top forwards, Jake Nighbors leading 160 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 2: their team and goals. Robert Thomas, who led their team 161 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 2: in points last year. He's they're both out of the lineup. 162 00:07:58,240 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 2: The I don't know if you want to call it. 163 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 2: I get you call him backup. Col Bennington's number one, 164 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 2: but Hofer is in goal and Joe Hofer has struggled 165 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 2: this year. But with all that being said, you know 166 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 2: what a lot of people are thinking, Oh, Boorkie, this 167 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 2: is the trap game, because look at the Rangers came 168 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 2: in here right, they had some injured players and and 169 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 2: they stuck it too. They punched the Penguins right in 170 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 2: the nose. So if you let you fill up the 171 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 2: gas Ville in the National hockey but you will get 172 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 2: punched in the nose. But if a team that's reeling 173 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 2: right now, and they just had a really tough loss 174 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 2: to the Detroit Red Wings where they're up for nothing 175 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: and they lost five four, so they're going to try 176 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 2: to come in here and redeem themselves. But over the years, 177 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 2: the Penguins have had for whatever reason, success not only 178 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: overall against the Blues, especially on home ice against the Blues. 179 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 2: You got to take advantage of that because this is 180 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 2: your last home game before the next four on the road, 181 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 2: and you've got to keep banking these points and keep, 182 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 2: you know, keep the fans happy. It's been maybe not 183 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 2: a full house, but it's been a rocket house because 184 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 2: the style of play and that the young kids have brought. 185 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 2: So I think they just got to continue doing what 186 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 2: they're doing. But I really feel like the Saint Louis 187 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 2: Blues are right for the picking here tonight. 188 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: See I think Philly Tamar's the trap game. Uh, second 189 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: game of two nights. You're on the road after playing 190 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: at home, and Mitchkoff has one goal in eight games. 191 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 4: He's slumping badly. He's going to be the guy for them. 192 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: But I've seen them play a couple of games recently, 193 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: and I think he's due. 194 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a danger. You're you're right, You're exactly right. 195 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 2: But I've learned my lesson not to peak at that 196 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 2: next game. But for the sake of this conversation, you're 197 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 2: exactly right. That's a much better Philadelphia Flyer team now, 198 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 2: coach by Rick Hockett. They play with grit, they play 199 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 2: with skill, they play with speed. They've got a lot 200 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 2: of guys in the lineup that can hurt you. And 201 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 2: uh yeah, there'll be there'll be a well rested team 202 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: waiting for the Penguins tomorrow night in Philly. 203 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: Do we hate Tackett because he's the Flyers coach? I 204 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: mean we hate the Flyers. 205 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 3: Of course we do. 206 00:09:58,280 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 2: Is there a second thought about that? 207 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 4: No, I agree, I'm on the same page we are. 208 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 2: We are crystal looking in the eye. We are crystal 209 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: clear on that. Okay. I don't even eat orange eminem 210 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 2: that's how much I hate the orange and black on 211 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 2: the other side of the state. Okay. And so when 212 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 2: when the puck drops, yeah, I think collectively the four 213 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 2: one two and the seven two four hate Rik talkic 214 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 2: for two and a half hours after that, you can 215 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 2: love Dicky. 216 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: We got to talk about Sid and Gino before we 217 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: wrap up work the uh you know, boats off to 218 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: a great start stat wise, I mean, can they keep 219 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: it up at that age it? 220 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 4: I mean, we know about Sid's conditioning. 221 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: I'm not saying Geno's out of shape, but it's it's 222 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: a different level with Sid. 223 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, as far as the conditioning, the first thing you 224 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 2: made me think of is the mental part. You know, 225 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 2: there's the physical part, the obvious part of a player 226 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 2: Geno thirty nine, Sid thirty eight, but the mental part. 227 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 2: As long as long as there's joy in their game 228 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 2: and there's fun in the game, then they'll never be 229 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 2: weighed down mentally. And when you wait mentally, you feel 230 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 2: physically fatigued, and they just look like they're out there 231 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: having fun. The Geno line is fun with Mantha and Brazio. 232 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 2: I think Gino's get joy in this game, and you know, 233 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 2: I think Sid getting there as far as that joy 234 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 2: in his game. And I think as long as you're winning, 235 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 2: as long as it doesn't have to be you, you 236 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 2: don't feel like it has to be you every single 237 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 2: night to get on the scoreboard and have an off 238 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 2: game and you still get a w I think that 239 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: brings them excitement, and I think the injection of the 240 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 2: youth and a faster team, a more structured team, lightens 241 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 2: a load for those guys. So as much as it's physical, 242 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 2: it's mental too. But the short answer is, yeah, eventually, 243 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 2: you're gonna have to have other guys in the third 244 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 2: and fourth line have big games, and so it's not 245 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 2: always sid in Gino. But in the meantime, knock on 246 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 2: wood that everybody stays healthy because it's fun to watch 247 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 2: these guys that are close to the forty and thirty 248 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 2: five perform the way they are night in the night. 249 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 4: Out paing was all the fame was great, wasn't it. 250 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: I was excited in particular to see Scottie who's still 251 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: Sharper's attack at ninety two. And Ronnie, who you know, 252 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: I don't talk to as much as like Arty and EJ. 253 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean Arity is one of those guys 254 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 2: that you wish he was living here in Pittsburgh. He's 255 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 2: one of those guys he just loved being around. And 256 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 2: you know that belly laughter that he has, it's it's contagious. 257 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 2: And you're right as far as Scotty and EJ. You 258 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 2: know both of them. You know EJ's gonna be ninety 259 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 2: in less than a month and Scotty's already there. So 260 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 2: just to see those guys in the building, you take 261 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 2: a mental snapshot because you don't know when you'll see 262 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 2: him in the building again with the hot white light 263 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 2: on them. And you're right, Ronnie is he's almost he's 264 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 2: almost like like royalty, right, he almost gives off that 265 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 2: that Mario air of differentness right that he's he's just 266 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 2: he looks good, he's dressed good, he's always fit, he's 267 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 2: never out of shape. The hair is always done just right. 268 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 2: And that's how he wasn't the player, right, he was 269 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 2: always just buttoned up, and nothing seemed to be like 270 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 2: lacking in his game or lacking in any other part 271 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 2: of his life. And uh yeah, well deserved all four 272 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 2: and a day. That was a special night. I haven't 273 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 2: had a real good chance to spend time in front 274 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 2: of the display down on the concourse, so maybe I'll 275 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: do that after the game here tonight, because I heard 276 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 2: it is really special. 277 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 1: No, it's tremendous, porky, great stuff. Thank you for joining me, 278 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: and we'll see at the rink in just a little bit. 279 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 3: Sounds good. 280 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 2: Double. I'm enjoyed our time together and this was good 281 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 2: hockey Doc. 282 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: That's the old two nine er Phil Bourke brought to 283 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 1: ut by eighty four lumbered Dynasty partner of the Pittsburgh Steelers. 284 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: We got Brian Beco at the bottom of the hour 285 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: to talk Steelers right now. 286 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 4: I want your Steeler angst. 287 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: We got open lines, which is such a clichde talk 288 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: Rado radio e thing to say. But eight three three 289 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: four one two w xdx. That's a three three four 290 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: one two w xdx. It's the Mark Mann Show on 291 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: one oh five nine. 292 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 5: He is terrible the X at one oh five nine. 293 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: We got back go at the bottom of the hour. 294 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: Right now, let's talk to Eric. Eric, you're on with Double. 295 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 6: M Hey, super genius. I can't remember who you had 296 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 6: on HERBA sound, but you played last week. It was 297 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 6: one of the national media hosts who it was kind 298 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 6: of a sky that's falling, old darn. But could they 299 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 6: really go oh to nine in this stretch? I mean, 300 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 6: do you think that's a little extreme? 301 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 7: Oh? 302 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 4: It was Pete Prisco. Pete Prisco said he could see 303 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 4: them losing eight or nine in a row. 304 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, Bruv. I don't think so. But I 305 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: think they're gonna lose to Indianapolis in LA and that'll 306 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: make four losses in a row. 307 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 4: And at that point, because they're obviously not showing a 308 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 4: lot of heart. 309 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: You heard Cam say that they don't have a lot 310 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: of fight in the team right now. Maybe it's snowballs 311 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: and they do lose eight or nine in a row. 312 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: I am not counting that out. 313 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 6: I'm not would they never win in Chicago. They got 314 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 6: Buffalo up until that Miami game in mid December. I 315 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 6: don't see a lot of promise here. 316 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 4: Let's go to Kevin. Kevin, you're on with double m Hey. 317 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 7: That's noon super g Hey. 318 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 8: I don't think the NFL did the Steelers any favor 319 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 8: by giving their bye in the fifth week. That means 320 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 8: they got to play thirteen games in a row. But 321 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 8: I think he's gonna come back and bite him. I 322 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 8: think they're they're gonna get tired. 323 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: I think the buye in the fifth week is among 324 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: the least of their problems, just like the bummy field. 325 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 4: Is among the least of their problems. 326 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: They have an awful defense, terrible coaching, absurdly bad roster assembly. 327 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: You know, forget the freaking bye week, goodbye, Let's go 328 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: to Chuck. Chuck, you're on with Mark? 329 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 2: Oh? 330 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 3: Mark, are you doing great? 331 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 9: Yeah? 332 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 10: I mean I watched that game last night down here 333 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 10: in Florida, and it's just the same old story and 334 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 10: it kind of reminds me of the late eighties early 335 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 10: nineties when we. 336 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 3: All knew Chuck Knoll. He didn't have the personnel. He 337 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 3: was done and Tomlin's done. And I think that most 338 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 3: people who say that, oh, any team would drop their 339 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 3: coach should pick him up. 340 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: No, no, no, Well that that's true right right now. 341 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: If Tom Win got fired, he would get another job, 342 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: but he wouldn't get a good job with a good team, 343 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: and it wouldn't be as simple as it would have 344 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: been a couple of years ago. No question, he his 345 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: brand has been damaged for certain. 346 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I agree. 347 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 10: I agree with that, and I and I just think 348 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 10: there's so many young coaches out there that are taking 349 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 10: these teams to another level when they get in there, and. 350 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 3: Hiper change. But you know that he's not going to 351 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 3: get fired. 352 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 2: You know that. 353 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: No, he will coach as long as he wants to 354 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: thanks for the call. I want to talk right now 355 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: about the bet Parks Online Casino in sportsbook gap. 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Our coverage starts at six here every game 375 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 11: and the best coverage right here on your home of 376 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 11: the penns one five. 377 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 4: Nine d X hit Bunny Diver and I just love 378 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 4: good news. 379 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 12: Okay, so this is a great story I just heard 380 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 12: about on a ninety degree day in Racine whisks. 381 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: The young Trophy White owes money to I can't even 382 00:17:58,520 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: quote the big o'bowski righte. 383 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 5: Goodbye VX at one five nine Steelers. 384 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: With a very disappointing loss last night, to say the least, 385 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: joining me now to talk about it from the Post Gazette, 386 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: he is Brian bad Koebrian, what went the most wrong 387 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: last night? Because there's certainly no shortage of topics in 388 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: that regard. 389 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 12: I think probably the pass coverage and specifically the tight 390 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 12: end defense against Tucker Kraft from the Packers. I mean, 391 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 12: even in some of the games or the Steelers have 392 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 12: played relatively well, including on that side of the ball, 393 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 12: they've still gotten sliced and diced at times by the 394 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 12: tight end. And you know, at some point somebody needs 395 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 12: to look in the mirror and figure out what the 396 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 12: heck's going on there and how to come up with 397 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 12: some answers. 398 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 7: Because it's just been. 399 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 12: Happening week in and week out, and that to me 400 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 12: turned the tide of the entire game last night. 401 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 4: Why is the pass coverage that bad? 402 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: Because the defensive backs were thought to be a strength 403 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: heading into the season, but Brian, to be honest, I 404 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: don't think any of them have played up to expectations. 405 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 1: Say maybe Brandon Echols is as a backupy type of guy. 406 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: And I think Deshaun Elliot's done okay, but if he's 407 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: your best safety, that ain't good. 408 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, I think Elliott was playing well for 409 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 12: the most part. Now I don't know if we're going 410 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 12: to see him for a while. That injury looked pretty gruesome. 411 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 12: Jalen Ramsey, I mean, I didn't think he was gonna 412 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 12: be prime Jalen Ramsey. So as far as my expectations, 413 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 12: I guess he's been okay, but Jamar Chase certainly torched. 414 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 7: Him, so we can't forget that. 415 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 12: And then yeah, Darius Lay, to me, he's probably been 416 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 12: the biggest disappointment, and Joey. 417 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 7: Porter Junior has not taken that next step forward to 418 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 7: answer your question. 419 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 12: And like big Picture, I said this in my chat 420 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 12: earlier on the PG site It's like the new wave 421 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 12: of the questions we would ask a few years ago 422 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 12: about the offense. How much of it is Matt Canada's 423 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 12: scheme and how much of it is the players aren't 424 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 12: any good? And just like back then, I think the 425 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 12: answer has to be some of both. If it was 426 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,959 Speaker 12: one thing, there wouldn't be this much of a full 427 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 12: scale failing breakdown. 428 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 7: But I think it's both. 429 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 12: I think it's the x's and o's, the guys who 430 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 12: were calling the shots, and even when guys are in 431 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 12: position to make plays, the ones who were actually between 432 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 12: the lines buying large they aren't getting it done enough either. 433 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: Do they miss Fitzpatrick in safety? He hadn't been excelling 434 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: for the last two years, but he was a center 435 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: fielder who kind of gave them, you know, a last 436 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: resort behind everybody else. 437 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, maybe a little bit. 438 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 12: And I think we all kind of knew that was 439 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 12: the opportunity cost of making that deal for Ramsey and 440 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 12: Johnny Smith, Right, Yeah, you're getting better on paper at corner. 441 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 12: You're getting a guy who's a little bit more willing, 442 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 12: I think, to do the chess piece deal and be 443 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 12: a versatile coverage guy. Regardless of whether you want to 444 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 12: call him a corner, a slot, a safety in Ramsey, 445 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 12: but you were weakening yourself on the back end, you know. 446 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 12: I know it's it's kind of funny to say this 447 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 12: because everybody was complaining about Mika Fitzpatrick for much of 448 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 12: last season, and rightfully so. But you know, I think 449 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 12: you are kind of now seeing that there isn't a 450 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 12: complete one to one replacement there, whether it's Wan Thornhill 451 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 12: or Chuck Clark. 452 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 7: I certainly don't think Minka was. 453 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 12: The player that he was in twenty nineteen and twenty 454 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 12: twenty when they first got him, But I think he's 455 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 12: a step above those guys I just mentioned. 456 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: Well, when I look at that trade now, John who's 457 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: not got nearly the role in production I had hoped 458 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: when they got him, and Jalen Ramsey I think is 459 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: being asked to do too much. I'm not as critical 460 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: to him as I am some others because I just 461 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: don't think he's that one on one cover guy anymore. 462 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 4: I think he's probably just a slot corner period. 463 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 12: Yeah, And I get the sense that the Steelers kind 464 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 12: of feel the same way as you, Mark, because you know, 465 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 12: going back to training camp first snap where I'll even go. 466 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 12: The day before training camp report day, we're asking Mike Tomlin, 467 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 12: where are we going to see Ramsey? And he was 468 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 12: being coy about it. You know you're going to see 469 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 12: him everywhere. Just come here tomorrow and you'll find out. Well, 470 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 12: pretty much from the beginning, we saw him as an 471 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 12: inside corner, and when they were in their nickel defense, 472 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 12: which you know everybody calls the three to four the 473 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 12: base defense, it's not the base defense anymore. 474 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 7: They played nickel more than. 475 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 12: Anything else, just like most NFL teams to match up 476 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 12: with new age offenses. So when they're in that look, 477 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 12: it's almost always been Ramsey inside and Slay and Porter 478 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 12: have been the outside guys. 479 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 4: Now last night it. 480 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 12: Looks like they don't really want to mess around with 481 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 12: Ramsey too much at safety anymore. So he was supplanting 482 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 12: Darius Lay when they were in the thirty four. But yeah, 483 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 12: I don't know entirely what's going on there. I thought 484 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 12: from the beginning when they acquired him that it was 485 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 12: going to be a little bit of an awkward where 486 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 12: does everybody fit? Where does Ramsey go? Does he travel 487 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 12: with number one receivers? Can he still do that? Do 488 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 12: you trust him to do that? Do you want him 489 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 12: to do that? Clearly they haven't found the right recipe 490 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 12: for how to use all these guys, and that's assuming 491 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 12: that they're even still capable of doing what the Steelers 492 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 12: would ask them to do. 493 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: Anyway, what's your take on what I've been very critical 494 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: him Ip telling me that it's the double teams, it's 495 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: the chips, it's that the quarterback gets sort of the 496 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: ball too fast. But I would put forth it all 497 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: those things happened prior to trying to gate lot and 498 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 1: weren't nearly as successful as now. 499 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 12: That's pretty much exactly what I was going to say. 500 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 12: That's where I land right now on TJ. Watt is that, yes, 501 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 12: you watch the games and there are definitely still times 502 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 12: where two and even three dudes are coming at him 503 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 12: to try to take him out of the play. But 504 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 12: it's not like he just became TJ. Watt Destroyer of 505 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 12: Worlds Defensive Player of the Year. I mean he's been 506 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 12: this for what four or five seasons now, so he's 507 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 12: faced this kind of attention before, and the production has 508 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 12: never dropped off to this extent. 509 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 7: And it's not just these last couple of games. It's 510 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 7: not just the season. 511 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 12: It goes back to the slide at the end of 512 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 12: last year two where he was getting so frustrated and 513 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 12: kind of vowing to do things differently this offseason. Well, 514 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 12: last on that you basically point blank after the game 515 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 12: last night, we talked so much about you moving around 516 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 12: more and how that can help. At what point do 517 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 12: you revisit that or will you revisit that? And he 518 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 12: just said, we've got to find ways to produce for sure. 519 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 12: So maybe they'll get back in the lab on that 520 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 12: this week. But it's it's been it's been pretty tough 521 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 12: going for him. Four sacks through seven games is not 522 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 12: what anybody was paying for. 523 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 5: There. 524 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 4: Is there any way to fix that defense? What would 525 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 4: you do to Jane's things? 526 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 12: Well, personnel wise, I don't know how many more bodies 527 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 12: you have to throw in there that you would actually 528 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 12: feel encouraged. Yes, I guess you could shuffle some deck 529 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 12: chairs on the Titanic per se and put Echos in 530 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 12: their oversleigh full time and give Jabrill Peppers a chance 531 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 12: as kind of a box safety. 532 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 7: And then maybe you're going. 533 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 12: One Thornhill and you're playing more single high and doing 534 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 12: it that way. 535 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 7: And kind of trying to tee off on teams. 536 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 3: But I don't know. 537 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 7: I mean, if the bill of. 538 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 12: Goods they were sold is exactly that, then there aren't 539 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,719 Speaker 12: a ton of answers in the toolbox. And I mean, 540 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 12: I guess Mike Tomlin Tarall Austin have to get more creative, 541 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 12: whether that is TJ. Watt's alignment or whether that's three 542 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 12: outside linebacker package with him, HeiG Smith and her Big 543 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 12: which has been kind of noticeably quiet the last couple games. 544 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 12: More dime defense which they still continue to avoid, but 545 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 12: then you're really opening yourself up to not being able 546 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 12: to stop the run. So it's just it's tough to 547 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 12: stop the bleeding right now. It's like playing whack a 548 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 12: mole with this defense. You know, one problem pops up, 549 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 12: you do something to fix it, it pops up somewhere else, 550 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 12: and at the end of the day, it comes down 551 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 12: to just being better than the guy across from you, 552 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 12: whether that's someone in the trenches or someone lined up 553 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 12: outside across from a wide receiver. 554 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 1: We're talking to Brian bat Coo with the Post gazete 555 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 1: here on the X. I think the offense has been 556 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: generally okay. Is our colleague Jerry do Lack tweeted not 557 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: too long ago, there's nothing wrong with the Steelers offense 558 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: that a better. 559 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 4: Defense couldn't fix. 560 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 1: But by way of nitpicking, the two things that I 561 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: don't like, I don't think Dk Metcalf has been as advertised. 562 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: I think he's had a lot of drops and not 563 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: produced enough big plays. And I think they too often 564 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: settle for field goals, which Tomlin even referenced after the 565 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: game last night. 566 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 12: Yeah, and I mean, ultimately it's kind of his own 567 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 12: doing that they have to settle for those field goals sometimes. 568 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 12: I mean, one, it's the philosophy that you set from 569 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 12: the top in terms of what you want to accomplish offensively. 570 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 12: And two, there are times where you know you can 571 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 12: try to get out of character a little bit, at 572 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 12: least for him and go for it a fourth down, 573 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 12: short yardage, and we know he's generally averse to that. 574 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 12: So yeah, I don't want to nitpick too much with 575 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 12: the offense. I think you did see second half last night, 576 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 12: you know, when the pockets collapsing and the pass rushes 577 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 12: starting to snowball, and that to me is just where 578 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 12: as well as Aaron Rodgers has played. 579 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 7: To me, it's still such a cheat code to a 580 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 7: quarterback who. 581 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 12: Can spin out of pressure, evaded defender and pick up ten, twelve, 582 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 12: fifteen yards with his legs. Now, I know that can't 583 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 12: be the only club in your bag. You need to 584 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 12: be able to dice teams up from the pocket too 585 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 12: when the situation culled for that. And that's why there's 586 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 12: only to be a handful of quarterbacks who can really 587 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 12: win the Super Bowl for a team at this stage 588 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 12: of the game. But yeah, I mean the protection, you know, 589 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 12: it broke down at times. Aaron Rodgers seemed like he 590 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 12: was a little bit overwhelmed once the ball got rolling 591 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 12: and DK metcalf. I thought he should have come down 592 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 12: with that one in the end zone. I know it 593 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,199 Speaker 12: was a tough play to make, but I mean, you're 594 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 12: getting paid handsomely to out muscle a guy who's like 595 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 12: six foot point eight five. You know, it didn't end 596 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 12: up costing them too much. But yeah, they've they've got 597 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 12: to get more out of him, and they've got to 598 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,959 Speaker 12: figure out different ways to keep opposing defenses off balance. 599 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: What's going to happen against Dandy because they are a 600 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 1: juggernaut offensively on a roll. I could see them putting 601 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: up forty points at Pittsburgh. 602 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 3: Are they are? 603 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 12: I mean, I could just easily see Daniel Jones turning 604 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 12: back into a pumpkin. But I can't argue with the results. 605 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 12: It looks like they're this year's Vikings and Sam Darnold 606 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 12: who kept it going all the way into the postseason. 607 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 12: And they've got to me even a better running game 608 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 12: with Jonathan Taylor and the way he is just gashing 609 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 12: defenses right now on the ground. I mean, I don't 610 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 12: know how much stock he put into running all over 611 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 12: the Tennessee Titans at this stage for that franchise. But yes, 612 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 12: the Colts have you know, they've taken care of business 613 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 12: this year. They've resurrected Daniel Jones. I've seen the Steelers 614 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 12: get up off the mat in the past where you 615 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:38,719 Speaker 12: don't expect it. 616 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 7: Like I always go back to that twenty twenty two season. 617 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 12: Where I think they'd lost four in a row. The 618 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,719 Speaker 12: Phills just absolutely stomped them in Buffalo, and then what 619 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 12: do they do. They come home to Pittsburgh and beat 620 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 12: late stage Tom Brady in the Bucks with a bunch 621 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 12: of nobody's in the secondary who are all out of 622 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 12: football now. But I don't think I'm going to predict 623 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 12: that this week. I feel like the Colts have been 624 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 12: two good They've had Mike Tomlin's number in the past, 625 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 12: and this defense is leaking oil and losing more juice 626 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 12: by the day. 627 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: I could see them losing at LA Chargers too, and 628 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: if that happens, if they lose the next two, which 629 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: would be four in a row, and I'm probably looking 630 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: too far ahead, Brian, but could this season just utterly 631 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: collapse at that point? It's tough to imagine that they 632 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: would let that happen, given the AFC North where nine 633 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: and eight probably could win the division. 634 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, and it's never really happened. 635 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 12: You know, that same season they found a way to 636 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 12: even get to they didn't make the playoffs, but we 637 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 12: all know they got above losing record mark. You know, 638 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 12: they got to the old five hundred or better threshold. 639 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 7: So my stance on this for the last. 640 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 12: Two, three, four years, now this season included was I'm 641 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 12: not going to predict them to have the bottom fallout 642 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 12: and have Mike tomlins first losing season until I see 643 00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 12: it with my own two eyes. But I'm also not 644 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 12: I'm gonna say the Steelers are gonna get over the 645 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 12: hump and win a playoff game. Until I see it, 646 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 12: I'm just gonna stay in between the booies of what 647 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 12: they've been for this really since the end of Ben 648 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 12: and now into the justin fields Russell Wilson, Aaron Rodgers 649 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 12: Triumvirate era of you know, nine and eight, ten and seven. Man, 650 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 12: if everything breaks right, maybe you can win eleven games, 651 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 12: but it sure doesn't look like that's gonna be feasible 652 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 12: with this year's schedule. 653 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: Was Jordan Love good last night or did the Steelers 654 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: just give him too many easy completions? 655 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 12: I definitely think he was good, but I wouldn't say 656 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 12: he was as good as the stat line indicates, which 657 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 12: I think is sort of what you're. 658 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 4: Getting at there. 659 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 12: Definitely there were some easy completions, guys running wide open, 660 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 12: much like we saw around this time last year at 661 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 12: the Cowboys game at home, where there was a lot 662 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 12: of that going on, you know. Then there were some 663 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 12: looky ones almost where he just kind of tossed it 664 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 12: up and his guys on the receiving end were better 665 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 12: than the guys the Steelers had in place to try 666 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 12: and stop it, or at least better than them on 667 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 12: those plays. But what I will give Love even a 668 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 12: little bit more credit for is it's not like he 669 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 12: really had the run game propping him up. I mean 670 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 12: the Steelers, for all they were blowing smoke about that 671 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 12: last week after the Bengals lost, they did do a 672 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 12: much better job against Josh Shacobs in that Packers ground game. 673 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 12: But as we saw by the end, Love didn't need it, 674 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 12: Tucker Craft didn't need it. They just cut right through 675 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 12: that Steelers secondary. And I'll be curious to see how 676 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 12: they can hold up against Daniel Jones, who I don't 677 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 12: think he's as good as Jordan Love, but the guys 678 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 12: he's throwing to might be even better. 679 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: Here's a weird scenario that tom My producer came up 680 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: with earlier. Brian, the Steelers and Ravens play on December seventh. 681 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: He thinks that both teams will be six and six 682 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: at that point. 683 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 4: In the game will determine who wins the division. 684 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 7: Man, so Tom's counting out the Bengals. 685 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 12: And Joe Flacco. I guess after what happened to them yesterday. 686 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: Yea, My whole thing was actually, Brian, if the Bengals 687 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: had beaten the Jets yesterday. I'm not said I would 688 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: have made them the favorites, but I would have thought 689 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: of it as a three way dance in the division 690 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: down to the end. 691 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 12: I'm still not really sure what to make of this 692 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 12: division those three teams. Obviously, the Browns we can forget 693 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 12: about them until twenty twenty six, and then we'll forget 694 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 12: about them until twenty twenty seven, and so on and 695 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 12: so forth. 696 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 13: But yeah, I. 697 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 12: Really don't know what to make of the Steelers, Ravens, 698 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 12: and Bengals. Steelers are obviously the healthiest of the three, 699 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 12: which on one hand is encouraging, but on the other 700 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 12: hand makes it even more ridiculous the way they've played 701 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 12: defensively these last couple of weeks. So yeah, I could 702 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 12: see it going a lot of different ways. This little mar. 703 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 7: Thing is is weird. 704 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 12: I'm used to the Bengals being the bad vibes factory 705 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 12: of the division, and now the Ravens kind of are 706 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,719 Speaker 12: stinking it up with what's going on with his injury. 707 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 12: But hey, maybe they got Tyler Huntley back in their 708 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 12: full speed ahead, whether Lamar is healthy or not. 709 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 7: So I can see it. 710 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 12: I can see Tom's kind of out there outside the 711 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 12: box scenario taking shape. And that's why we keep Shirtless 712 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 12: Tom around. He's always coming up with those weird situations. 713 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 4: Well he's no longer shirtless Tom. 714 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: I've imviewed him with dignity as it or Brian, but 715 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: but nonetheless that is from his sworded past up. But 716 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,959 Speaker 1: there's so much weird about the division. We brought this 717 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: up earlier too. The defense that Cleveland has with Garrett 718 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: is the best defense in the division by far, and 719 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: they have no chance. 720 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 4: To win the division. 721 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: In fact, Matt Williamson said that Cleveland's defense, out of 722 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 1: the eight units in the AFC North offensive defense on 723 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: each team, that the Cleveland defense is the best. 724 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 7: I would agree with that. 725 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 12: I mean, shoot, Miles Garrett five sacks yesterday, more than TJ. 726 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 7: Watt has all season. 727 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 3: That's that's a third. 728 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 12: And you know the Browns can't get out of their 729 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 12: own way offensively, but I guess I would say it 730 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 12: makes them a thorn in the side to see again 731 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 12: this season when the Steelers do go up to Cleveland. 732 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:16,320 Speaker 12: I think the Dylan Gabriel experiment, it's to me such 733 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,439 Speaker 12: a black cloud hanging over Kevin Stefanski, who I thought 734 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 12: was a pretty sharp guy and a savvy football coach. 735 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 12: I just have no idea what they're doing there with him, 736 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 12: But maybe Shador will start that game in Cleveland. 737 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 7: Sign me up for that. 738 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 12: I'm all for the dysfunction taking center stage. And just 739 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 12: imagine if Shador Sanders first start is against the Steelers. 740 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 12: That would be uh, that could be high comedy, or 741 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 12: that could be you know, a high, high degree of 742 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 12: humiliation for the Steelers. 743 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 4: Brian, great stuff. Thank you so much for taking the time. 744 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 7: No problem, see you guys. 745 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 1: That's Brian Bacho from the Post Gazette. Now it's time 746 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: to ask Mark Anything. Dial eight three three four one 747 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: two w XDA. That's eight three three four one two 748 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: ninety nine thirty nine and ask Mark anything. Or you 749 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: can do what the cool kids do and leave a 750 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 1: talkback via the microphone icon at the iHeartMedia app. Ask 751 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: Mark Anything right now, uh eight three three four one 752 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: thirty nine. 753 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 14: Time now to send in your questions for Ask Mark Anything. 754 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 12: Use to talk back Mike on your free iHeartRadio app 755 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 12: and record your question for the super genius What. 756 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 4: The Spirits Summer news? 757 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 5: So join us for the Exsters Halloween CRUs. 758 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 14: On Thursday, October thirtieth, the Ku says Sale at APM 759 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 14: with live Heasy from the Klinto. 760 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,240 Speaker 5: It's playing all your nineties favorites. 761 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 14: Ten dollars and fifty nine cents from every ticket sold 762 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 14: goes to the Mariola mu Foundation. 763 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 5: John York Crew for this twenty one o. 764 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 14: Old door event and dressing your Halloween's best to score prizes. 765 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 14: All nice wa tickets around seal. 766 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 5: Now at Gateway Clipper dot com. 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I don't know what you said? 774 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,879 Speaker 5: Double M Yeah the exit one oh five nine. 775 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 4: I'm not an ass mark anything. 776 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 1: Brought to list by People's Natural Gas Safe, Reliable Natural 777 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,399 Speaker 1: Gas Energy, People's Hypengas dot Com. 778 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 4: Let's go to Dick, Dick, You're on double M. 779 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 2: For a few years now. 780 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,240 Speaker 9: The Steelers know that they get to the thirty five 781 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 9: even forty, they've got three points in the bag. My 782 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 9: question is, do you think Chris Boswell being so incredibly 783 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 9: accurate has actually hurt the Steelers over the years. 784 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 1: I actually posited that earlier in the program. I think 785 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 1: he's so good that they know three is a sure thing. 786 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 1: I think if they had a mediocre kicker, that'd be 787 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: more likely to go for more touchdowns. Whether that would 788 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 1: result in more points and more wins, I do not know, 789 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,280 Speaker 1: but I think he might be onto something. 790 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:22,399 Speaker 3: They gotta cut him. 791 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 4: Thank you for the call. Very good. Let's go to 792 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 4: a talkback, mister Madden. Who do you think has had 793 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 4: a better career as of now? 794 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,320 Speaker 13: Jason Bonham or Wolfgang van Halen? 795 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 4: Thank you. 796 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 7: Well. 797 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: I mean Wolfgang van Halen has put out more original material, 798 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 1: even if it sucks and all sounds the same. 799 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 4: I prefer Jason Bonham as a musician. 800 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 1: I'd rather see Jason bonhams LEDs up on tribute band 801 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: than see Wolfgang van Halen's mammoth, which is named after 802 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: his girth. 803 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 4: I think let's go to a talkback, hey Mark, with 804 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 4: how bad the Rangers are? How many years do you 805 00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 4: think Mike Sullivan will last? 806 00:37:58,680 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 14: There? 807 00:37:58,840 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 4: Before they fire him. 808 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: I can't believe we're already speculating on Mike Sullivan being fired. 809 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 1: I don't think that he's gonna do good there, how 810 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,280 Speaker 1: long he coaches there, I don't know. It's a toxic 811 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:19,879 Speaker 1: situation with toxic players, and the people in New York 812 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: think that the players have already not tuned him out. 813 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: That's too strong, but aren't buying in like they should. 814 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: It is probably a fair way to put it. Let's 815 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:28,799 Speaker 1: go to a. 816 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:33,800 Speaker 13: Talkback, Mark, do you truly believe coach t is calling 817 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 13: the shots on the defense? And do you still believe 818 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,360 Speaker 13: he's a top five coach in the NFL. 819 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 1: I don't think he was ever a top five coach 820 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,800 Speaker 1: in the NFL. And I do know for sure he 821 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 1: has final say on defense. He has final say on everything, 822 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 1: final sayn on personnel. All of the Steelers' problems can 823 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 1: and should be directly traced to Mike Tomlin. 824 00:38:58,760 --> 00:38:59,720 Speaker 4: Let's go to a talkback. 825 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 13: Hey, just a question. Do you think Rogers last the 826 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 13: entire season? Injury or otherwise? I'll hang up and listen. 827 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: I find myself wondering if the Steelers, like do lose 828 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 1: four in a row. You don't go to four and five, 829 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 1: and let's say they go to four and six or 830 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: five and seven, it doesn't get better. It wouldn't surprise 831 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 1: me if he got quote unquote hurt, although that's probably 832 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,439 Speaker 1: an unfair thing to say. Base that he's played well 833 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: so far and down and everything right. I think whether 834 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 1: he bails or not will determine whether he wants to 835 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: play next year. 836 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 4: But why would he want to play here? What Rogers 837 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 4: should hope is. 838 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 1: That he's played well enough and that Minnesota has learned 839 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 1: from their mistake of not getting him and not retaining 840 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,839 Speaker 1: Darnald and trusting JJ McCarthy despite having a great team. 841 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,279 Speaker 1: Maybe Rogers lines up in Minnesota next year. That would 842 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:50,359 Speaker 1: not surprise me at all.