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Speaker 2: The Christmas edition of The Tony Imo Football Show on

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty comes your way from Twin Peaks in Florence.

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Speaker 2: We are here till six o'clock the day after the

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Speaker 2: Bengals got a crucial late season victory to improve their

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Speaker 2: and then here for the season finale. In Florence. We'll

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Speaker 2: A great place to post up and have a pre

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Speaker 2: Christmas cold one. A great place to post up and

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Speaker 2: watch Monday night football. Pretty interesting game between San Francisco

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Speaker 2: and Indianapolis. Great place for ball season. Great place to

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Speaker 2: watch your awesome college basketball team if you're a fan

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Speaker 2: of one, and Kentucky may still end up being awesome

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Speaker 2: based on the way they played with Jaden Quainton's available

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Speaker 2: in Florence, right off Turfway Road. You'll be here in minutes.

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Speaker 2: And when you get off I seventy five. Tony Pike

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Speaker 2: is with me. How's it going.

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Speaker 3: I'm ready to go on to day. It's so much

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Speaker 3: more enjoyable to do these when the team wins.

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Speaker 4: It is, I mean it is. You want to talk.

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Speaker 3: I know coaches put in a lot of time and

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Speaker 3: it's an exhausting profession.

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Speaker 5: They have no time for anything else.

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Speaker 4: It can become exhausting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, ten different times throughout a year, to have to

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Speaker 3: talk about losses. So this for our mental well being

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Speaker 3: going into the holiday. What a welcome sight yesterday was.

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Speaker 5: I'll say this. I watched the game this morning.

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Speaker 2: I was in Greenville, South Carolina, filling in for Dan

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Speaker 2: the game played out. I had seen a lot of

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Speaker 2: the highlights. I hadn't watched it front to back until

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Speaker 5: That was fun.

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Speaker 4: Yep, this fun game.

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Speaker 5: Joe Burrow in that offense, that to me like the

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Speaker 2: There's no big takeaway as far as I'm concerned, but

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Speaker 2: if you're trying to come up with one, I guess

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Speaker 2: the first one for me would be that's what it

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 2: The Dolphins aren't very good. Quinn Ewers is not an

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Speaker 2: NFL caliber quarterback in my opinion. I thought that team

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Speaker 2: as the game went on, looked very checked out. But

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Speaker 2: it was a dominant offense, offense to a degree, an

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my big takeaways from yesterday. It's good when Joe

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Speaker 3: Burrow has fun Yeah, that's a positive. His four touchdown

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Speaker 3: passes ridiculous, Chase Brown's third quarter incredible. T Higgins like,

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Speaker 3: scoffed at that. To not only come back to go

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Speaker 3: Jamar Chase for the twenty seventh time since he's been drafted,

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Speaker 3: Like that to me, like, enjoy that part of it

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Speaker 3: But that doesn't mean you can't enjoy a win.

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Speaker 3: I had way too many people either text me or

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that take a little bit later on.

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Speaker 2: I think there's usefulness to these games. There's usefulness for

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Speaker 2: a guy like Miles Murphy, which you could shake your head,

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Speaker 2: But like it would behoove this team to have a

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Speaker 2: keep sure Miles Murphy is doing that. He continued that, yes,

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Speaker 2: Dax Hill's second half of the season, James Rapeene wrote

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Speaker 4: You know it's it's Jaalen Davis yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for Dax, maybe it's been a little bit too little,

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Speaker 2: too late. But you're you are trying to find guys

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Speaker 5: Like that that helps. That doesn't mean you don't make changes.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't mean you're suddenly trustworthy of you suddenly trust

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Speaker 5: I think these games are.

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Speaker 2: Useful for the offensive line, like there's dudes on that

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Speaker 5: There's usefulness. You can acknowledge that.

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Speaker 2: You can also acknowledge that in the grand scheme of things,

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Speaker 2: winning these games shouldn't make anybody, whether you're an outsider

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Speaker 5: But I think that and they don't need to do

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Speaker 3: Because last year it was the exact same. They won

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Speaker 3: I'm good with winning as long as it doesn't equate

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Speaker 3: But I get why people are cautious because we've seen

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Speaker 2: I understand that fear. I share that fear. That doesn't

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Speaker 2: mean I don't want them to win the hole. Well,

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Speaker 2: they screwed up their draft choice.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: I just said this to you in Austin during Monday

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Speaker 2: midday quarterback quick hits. If there's an obvious prize, like

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Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen, I wanted the Bengals to have the

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Speaker 5: Now, dude, sign me up.

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Speaker 2: If Caleb Downs is there and then you could draft

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Speaker 2: him like I'm in, I don't know that I would

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Speaker 2: call him an obvious prize. I also think we dramatically

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Speaker 2: overrate tanking. The players cared too much.

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Speaker 5: Yeh, look at t Higgins. That's a primary example.

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Speaker 2: He could have done exactly what you said and said, Dude,

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Speaker 2: I've been in protocol twice.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to play in these games that don't matter.

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Speaker 2: I have no statistical milestones to reach. I've got to

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Speaker 2: protect myself. Instead, he sees the specialist. He fights to

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Speaker 2: come back. He makes sort of a tone setting play

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Speaker 2: early in the game on the thirty five yard reception

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Speaker 2: plays his heart out like number one. If you want

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Speaker 2: your franchise to be about the right things, start there. Yep,

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Speaker 2: start with T. Higgins Number two. If you want this

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Speaker 2: team to collapse, quit tank however you want to put it.

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Speaker 2: You're overrating how much this matters to a lot of guys.

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Speaker 2: Start that conversation as T. Higgins and for that conversation.

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Speaker 3: Because the Falcons won yesterday, they didn't lose any draft spots, right,

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Speaker 3: so they didn't go up, they didn't go down. They

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Speaker 3: got to see a game where the offense was awesome

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Speaker 2: I will make a determination after Week eighteen whether he

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Speaker 3: The D for the rest of the Ray McBride is

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of ground to cover between now and

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Speaker 2: six o'clock the Bengals game yesterday. Some of the stories

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Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins, a wildly entertaining NFL.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to take a college basketball detour today?

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Speaker 3: I don't want to, but I think we owe it

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Speaker 5: You know, I took a college basketball detoy yesterday.

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Speaker 4: And I think maybe you should do it.

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Speaker 3: You were there, I get I got to watch it

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Speaker 2: Bye, God, that start was a spectacle. That's one way

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Speaker 3: I think it's it's a huge step forward, not only

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Speaker 2: Again, I don't know that anybody is ever gonna say

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Speaker 2: better edge rushers than Miles Murphy on next year's team, Yes,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's a It's different than the offensive side

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Speaker 2: They feasted on bad quarterbacks at the end of the

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Speaker 2: the guy.

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Speaker 5: I see Detroit and Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: And look, the Steelers played well and deserved to win

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Speaker 2: that football game yesterday.

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Speaker 5: Give them credit for it.

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Speaker 2: They were awesome on the ground with Warren gain Well

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Speaker 2: and Aaron Rodgers was more than competent yesterday.

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Speaker 5: But Detroit's driving for a.

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Speaker 2: Game ending score and they're called for a pass interference

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Speaker 2: on a pick play that I see every NFL team run, and.

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Speaker 3: It was it was like the least egregious pick I've

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Speaker 3: ever seen. Like the receiver was legit trying to get open,

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Speaker 3: he got shoved into the defender.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And then following that up, the offensive pass interference on

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Speaker 3: Amaras Saint Brown I thought was weak.

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Speaker 5: Again, I see that right the Tivery rep.

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Speaker 4: You can see that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: It was just a what a terrible way to lose

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Speaker 4: if you're the Detroit Lions Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you know this, nineteen straight years

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Speaker 3: where Mike Tomlin has not recorded a losing season.

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Speaker 5: It's also been what nine straight years since he's wont

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Speaker 5: to play the game.

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Speaker 3: It did feel like the Vultures were circling a couple

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Speaker 3: of weeks ago, and they've played some of their best

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Speaker 3: football in the last couple Yeah. Yes, and I think

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Speaker 3: they should get credit for that without TJ.

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Speaker 5: Watt.

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Speaker 3: Baltimore on the other side struggled down the stretch. Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 3: Will you talk about the availability of Joe Burrow Lamar

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Speaker 3: Jackson and what is going on with him this year?

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Speaker 3: That was a team co favorites in the AFC to

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Speaker 3: start the year for the Super Bowl. That is all

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Speaker 3: likelihood going to miss the playoffs. Now, Lamar's season has

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Speaker 3: been weird. That defense, they're getting older, Derrick Henry, they

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Speaker 3: don't go to him when he's averaging seven yards of

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Speaker 3: carry in the fourth quarter with a backup quarterback in

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Speaker 3: Huntley was nine to ten.

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Speaker 5: He was good, fine, But you.

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Speaker 3: Got a guy running the ball for seven yards of

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Speaker 3: carry and you go away from him. Credit to New England,

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Speaker 3: Credit to Drake May. I think Drake May in the

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Speaker 3: pocket is unbelievable, lethal, his pocket movement, the subtleness of

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Speaker 3: which he moves and keeps eyes down the field. It's

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Speaker 3: clinical but brutal. Brutal loss for Baltimore and a huge

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Speaker 3: win for Pittsburgh. Really, no one gave them a chance

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Speaker 3: to win.

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Speaker 2: Removing our Bengals fandom from the equation. Are the Ravens

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Speaker 2: the NFL's most disappointing team, Yes, I think so easily.

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Speaker 2: They were favorites, very clear favorites to win the division. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: got off to a one in five start, allowed the

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Speaker 2: Steelers to build a big lead. They were beaten by

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Speaker 2: the Bengals in their own building on Thanksgiving Night, and

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Speaker 2: not just beaten by you know, a field goal. They

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Speaker 2: were kind of manhandling in that game, and the up

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Speaker 2: Burrow came back, but it was his first game back.

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Speaker 5: For them to finish.

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Speaker 2: Quite possibly with a losing record, for them quite likely

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Speaker 2: to not make the postseason.

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Speaker 5: Like that, that that team to me is weird. John

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Speaker 5: Harball's done. They're getting older.

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Speaker 2: But if you look at the last couple of years,

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Speaker 2: the amount of games they've lost, like last night's, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: double digit lead in the fourth quarter and they lose,

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Speaker 2: wasting another of what should be Lamar Jackson's prime year,

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Speaker 2: prime years, the Derrick Henry thing late in the game

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Speaker 2: last night, Like there is there's something weird.

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Speaker 5: It's a well run franchise. They're probably gonna have another.

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Speaker 2: Great offseason, but like they've had really good teams. They

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Speaker 2: had the AFC Championship game in their building two years ago.

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Speaker 5: Didn't win.

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Speaker 2: They had the two point conversion that Mark Andrews drops

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Speaker 2: last year in Buffalo.

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Speaker 5: They don't win.

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Speaker 2: Like you talk about like windows opening and closing, it

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Speaker 2: kind of feels like it's closing there. I do think

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Speaker 2: they are the NFL's most disappointing team.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely Again, like there was a there were people that

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Speaker 3: that and I knew you were one of them that

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Speaker 3: had Kansas City to missed the playoffs. Yes, you could

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Speaker 3: see the riding on the wall with how that.

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Speaker 4: Team was trending.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I thought, like you said, Baltimore crushed the

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Speaker 3: off season moving in the right direction. It is massively,

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Speaker 3: massively disappointing. Again, Pittsburgh finds a way. I thought it

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Speaker 3: was brutal yesterday because I hate I think it. Judkins

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Speaker 3: has been awesome for Cleveland. I hate seeing him get

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Speaker 3: injured like that, and I think should do or say,

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Speaker 3: been pretty good. I think he's shown some signs that

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Speaker 3: he can play quarterback in the NFL. Yeah, over the

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Speaker 3: last couple of weeks, I think they have some good

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Speaker 3: hookies in place.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that what he has done would keep

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Speaker 2: me if I'm Cleveland from Traston a quarterback in the

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Speaker 2: top five, right, but he's played competently.

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Speaker 4: Sure.

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Speaker 2: The Judkins thing, I think is the most significant thing

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Speaker 2: that happened in the AFC North this weekend, busted Fibula

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Speaker 2: herd Ankle. He has been a bright spot. They've got

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Speaker 2: a lot of really good young rookies. No matter what

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Speaker 2: they're going to do this offseason. He kind of thought

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Speaker 2: they can build their offense around him.

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Speaker 3: Man in a weird game in the sense that here's

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Speaker 3: this opening in the AFC, Mahomes on the outside, Burrow

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Speaker 3: on the outside, Lamar on the outside, and Josh Allen

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Speaker 3: just kind of put together a whole hum day like

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Speaker 3: there's a pressure on Josh Allen like this better be

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Speaker 3: the year you get it. Yes, with the landscape of

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Speaker 3: the AFC, you better go get it here. And I

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Speaker 3: just don't think Buffalo has played clean the last couple

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Speaker 3: of games. No felt they find a way to win

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Speaker 3: against New England. Yeah, on the way to win yesterday.

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Speaker 5: Bengals were up ten in the fourth quarter on them.

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Speaker 4: Yep. But AFC is interesting.

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Speaker 2: And it's part of why this season from a Bengals

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Speaker 2: perspective is so disappointing because the AFC, if the Bengals

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Speaker 2: were even as cliche as it sounds, if they were

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Speaker 2: sneaking in as the seven more as a nine win

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Speaker 2: division champion, you would look at them with Burrow and

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Speaker 2: that offense in the AFC and go due.

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Speaker 4: Might be favored.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I think if they were in, they'd go

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Speaker 3: to like Denver and be favored or at like a

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Speaker 3: one and a half point dog, right like almost to

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Speaker 3: pick them. Yeah, that's how good it can be.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I like what Jacksonville's doing right now. Went into Denver,

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Speaker 3: played like that New England with an impressive come from

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Speaker 3: behind win. Do you want to play the Houston Texans

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Speaker 3: right now? And that defense?

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Speaker 2: The NFL doesn't have a Most Improved Player award, but

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Speaker 2: Dana Orlowski on TV this morning said if they did,

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Speaker 2: it would go to Trevor Lawrence. So I'm like, you

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Speaker 2: see to me and you and I have talked about this.

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Speaker 2: You see the value in coaching, Yeah, because that has

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Speaker 2: been guy who has been a victim of just not

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Speaker 2: being a part of a very stable organization. And now

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Speaker 2: there's some stability, there's good coaching, and it's bringing out

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Speaker 2: the best of that guy.

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Speaker 3: And they finished with Indy and Tennessee. Yeah, if they

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Speaker 3: have a legit chance to make a run at.

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Speaker 2: This twelve away from four o'clock, we're here at Twin

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Speaker 2: Peaks and Florence.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we are Tony and Mo Football Show. Bengals win.

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Speaker 2: We'll take a college basketball detour a little bit later

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Speaker 2: on get to the college football playoff, the game plays,

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Speaker 2: and then all of these subsequent complaints. But I want

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Speaker 2: to talk about the story that came out late last

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Speaker 2: week where the Bengals turned down a trade off all

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Speaker 2: turn it down because they didn't even listen to it,

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Speaker 2: where the Dolphins were apparently going to give him four

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Speaker 2: count them four first round picks for the number one

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Speaker 2: overall selection that became Joe Burrow in the twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: NFL Draft. Will do that coming up in the four

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Speaker 2: o'clock hour on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.

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Speaker 2: much for listening.

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Speaker 5: Hopefully your Christmas holiday week is off to an awesome start.

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Speaker 2: We are hanging out at Twin Peaks in Florence here

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Speaker 2: till six o'clock tonight. The Toni and Moo Football Show

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Speaker 2: moves to Twin Peaks in Westchester a week from today,

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Speaker 2: back here in Florence, two weeks for today for the

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Speaker 2: season finale. Bengals win yesterday afternoon knock off the Miami

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Speaker 2: Dolphins in Miami in South Florida, Cincinnati improving to five

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Speaker 2: and ten. A great day for Chase Brown, very good

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Speaker 2: and efficient day for Joe Burrow. The defense was opportunistic

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Speaker 2: and the Bengals put themselves in a position to finish

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Speaker 2: with seven wins.

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Speaker 4: How about that? I mean, is a who's still working today?

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Speaker 5: You and me?

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Speaker 4: Outside of us, you and me.

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Speaker 3: People they maybe went into the office early, called it

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Speaker 3: early for the holiday.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what's stopping you from coming out here?

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Speaker 5: Right, you're not really if you're if you're at work,

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Speaker 5: what do you do?

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Speaker 4: Correct?

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Speaker 5: So why not bring work remotely and hang out her

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Speaker 5: twin peaks.

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Speaker 3: And dudes bring a laptop. They got Wi Fi they do.

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Speaker 3: It's good Wi Fi connect.

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Speaker 5: It works for us every single week.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna get to some college football playoffs stuff a

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Speaker 2: little bit later on and maybe do a college basketball

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Speaker 2: detour in the last you and I have not had

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Speaker 2: a chance to talk about this, but in the run

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Speaker 2: up to the Bengals Dolphins game, with everybody revisiting the

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Speaker 2: twenty nineteen game and the twenty twenty draft, es Adam

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Speaker 2: Schefter reported that the Dolphins offered the Bengals four first

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Speaker 2: round picks in exchange for the number one overall selection

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Speaker 2: and the ability to draft Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 2: Schefter added that the Bengals declined to even engage in discussions,

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Speaker 2: and they shut down.

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Speaker 5: The trade inquiry smart for it could gain any traction.

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Speaker 4: Smart.

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Speaker 2: So, knowing what you know now, which is the career

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Speaker 2: trajectory of Joe Burrow, the success he has had and

667
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Speaker 2: the Bengals have had, and the failures that the two

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Speaker 2: have experienced. Knowing that, I think what we know about

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Speaker 2: the Bengals and their evaluation of the quarterback class that

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Speaker 2: year was that Justin Herbert would have been their number two.

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Speaker 2: Not to a tongue of Iiloa. Knowing what you know

672
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Speaker 2: about the Bengals draft history, with the benefit of hindsight

673
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 2: good and bad, should they have accepted that trade offer

674
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Speaker 2: and four first round picks for the number one overall

675
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Speaker 2: selection in the twenty Times draft?

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Speaker 3: Knowing now what Joe Burrow is, I mean to back

677
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 3: AFC championship games, the Super Bowl appearance. I know the

678
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 3: health has been an issue, but to his health has

679
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 3: been an issue. Herbert has been in and out. Herbert's

680
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 3: been inconsistent at times like you can't look and especially

681
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Speaker 3: as you mentioned the draft history, that's not guaranteeing.

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Speaker 4: That the four first would be hits.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you guarantee to hit with Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 3: and you've set yourself up in this franchise up very

685
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Speaker 3: well going forward from that as well. So if I

686
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Speaker 3: looked at some of those shots of Steven Ross at

687
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Speaker 3: the game yesterday during the broadcast, he's probably thinking we

688
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Speaker 3: should have doubled that and went eight, maybe eight first

689
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Speaker 3: round picks. I'm listening, but no, I for no chance

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Speaker 3: with who and what Joe Burrow is.

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Speaker 2: I guess I agree the caveat being who are the

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Speaker 2: four picks?

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Speaker 5: Like if you tell me those are three Pro Bowl players?

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Speaker 5: And then like a.

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Speaker 4: Fourth guy, who's and you got Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 2: An NFL caliber starting player? Like okay, Like that's one thing,

697
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 2: but it's just four picks. It's the ultimate unknown. A

698
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 2: first round pick could be Jamar Chase. The first round

699
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Speaker 2: pick could be Billy Price. A first round pick could be.

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Speaker 5: A player.

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Speaker 2: And I'm trying to think of anybody that they've taken

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Speaker 2: in the first round worth having this decade, like there

703
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Speaker 2: have been like so many or god, they're bad first

704
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Speaker 2: round choices that like first round pick doesn't do it

705
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Speaker 2: for me, in part because I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 2: I knew what Joe Burrow was, and I knew what

707
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Speaker 2: Justin Herbert was. I knew what Joe Burrow was. I

708
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Speaker 2: guess the part of this that we'll never know. We're

709
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Speaker 2: never going to know about a lot of these things.

710
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Speaker 2: The Bengals would not even engage. Then sure, let's say

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Speaker 2: they chose to what could they have ultimately gotten Miami

712
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Speaker 2: to offer six, Like if they're starting with we'll give

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Speaker 2: you four and the Bengals go, nah, but come back

714
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Speaker 2: to us, what does that offer look like?

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Speaker 5: I think that would be fascinating.

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Speaker 2: Because clearly there is a point that you would go

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Speaker 2: to right where you would go, okay, fine, as much

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Speaker 2: as we love Burrow, if you're gonna give me this.

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Speaker 4: Right, it would make it so we think we can

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Speaker 4: still land Herbert.

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Speaker 2: It would make sense to pull the trigger. But as

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Speaker 2: rich as a as four first rounders sound, I don't

723
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Speaker 2: know that that package.

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Speaker 5: Makes me go, yeah, I get out of for Burrow.

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Speaker 2: Not enough my take going into the twenty twenty draft,

726
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Speaker 2: because it's not like this wasn't talked about, but my

727
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 2: take was, look, you've got a Solvet quarterback. You need

728
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 2: a franchise quarterback. Here's one available to you. If you

729
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Speaker 2: like him, and if you're convinced he's the guy, then

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Speaker 2: go forward with him.

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Speaker 3: And I still feel that way right and that evaluation

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Speaker 3: was correct, yes, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 4: I mean again, the injuries.

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Speaker 3: Aside that Joe Burrow's healthy, he's either the best or

735
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Speaker 3: one of the two or three best in the NFL. YEP,

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Speaker 3: and you have that for the foreseeable future for your franchise.

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Speaker 5: So it's an interesting hypothetical.

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Speaker 4: Eight maybe I'm talking differently.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, like again, like seven, what is the length

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Speaker 2: that the Dolphins would have gone to and they picked

741
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Speaker 2: fifth that year, right, So it's not like there wasn't

742
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Speaker 2: a quarterback.

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Speaker 5: They took one and the two one tigo I loa

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Speaker 5: thing hasn't worked out.

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Speaker 2: But what I what I would want to know is

746
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Speaker 2: if the Bengals, if the Bengals came back to the

747
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Speaker 2: Dolphins and said, we'll talk to you before is not

748
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Speaker 2: going to do it. Would that would the Dolphins have

749
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Speaker 2: just said, okay, fine, that's our best offer, or would

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Speaker 2: they have up the anny at all?

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Speaker 4: What they went to?

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Speaker 2: Six?

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Speaker 4: Seven? Right? I just wanted to get a six to

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Speaker 4: seven reference for you.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, thanks very much. I need more of that in

756
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Speaker 2: my life. I need more of that in my life.

757
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 2: But if you are convinced that the dude we could

758
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Speaker 2: take a number one overall is the guy, and by

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Speaker 2: the way, they have been right about that. He has

760
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Speaker 2: been the guy. He's been an MVP finalist twice, he

761
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Speaker 2: has helped you.

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Speaker 5: Get to the super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Those four first rounders doesn't do it for me as

764
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Speaker 2: rich as that is, and as much as I do

765
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Speaker 2: understand the value of.

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Speaker 4: First round there rounds.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it could be seventh overall, tenth overall, you know, well,

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Speaker 3: top five, like, there's a lot of camveats that go

769
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Speaker 3: into that.

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Speaker 2: Miles Murphy is a first round pick. Dax Hill is

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Speaker 2: a first round pick.

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Speaker 3: I would not take four Miles Murphy's for Joe Burrow. Right,

773
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Speaker 3: Billy Price, and we talked very well. Miles Murphy, Joona

774
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Speaker 3: Williams nice player is a first round pick. You didn't

775
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 3: play like one like if you want to say, well,

776
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 3: the Bengals would have gotten three Pro bowlers and a

777
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 3: starting caliber NFL player, eh, but for first rounders, there's

778
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Speaker 3: so many unknowns. There Chances are one or two or

779
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Speaker 3: three or four of those guys aren't gonna work out.

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Speaker 5: I'm happy with Joe Burrow.

781
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Speaker 4: Yep. The Bengals made the right decision. Huh about that?

782
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Speaker 3: But that on your twenty twenty five Bingo card before

783
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 3: the season ends. Bengals right decision. But I do think

784
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Speaker 3: it would have been interesting if the Bengals had at

785
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Speaker 3: least said, well, listen, but I'm not listening at four

786
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Speaker 3: like you said, do the Dolphins come back and say,

787
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Speaker 3: all right, thanks for listening, or well what about this.

788
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Speaker 2: Or had the Bengals said, hey, we've got this offer

789
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Speaker 2: from the Miami Dolphins for first rounders.

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Speaker 5: Anybody want to do five?

791
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Speaker 3: Any takers? Any takers? Man, what's the bidding war go

792
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 3: up to?

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Speaker 5: That's to me, that's the fascinating.

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Speaker 3: And again, like it were different levels to it, Like

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Speaker 3: this year, Fernando Mendoza wins the Heisman, I'm not giving

796
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Speaker 3: up four first round picks. No, Burrough came off statistically

797
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Speaker 3: the greatest college football season of all time from a

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Speaker 3: quarterback right, and by all accounts, showed the understanding of

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Speaker 3: offense and being able to make plays. You could see

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Speaker 3: his greatness. That's different. There are levels to that each

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Speaker 3: and every year, and that was certainly the exception.

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Speaker 5: Let's talk about the college football player.

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Speaker 4: We are talking about another way season.

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Speaker 5: The college football player.

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Speaker 4: Let's get people big mad again.

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Speaker 5: When we big Mad come back.

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame has overtaken SEC Schools as the best team

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Speaker 2: in any hypothetical game.

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Speaker 3: Yes, the college football they would dominate. They would dominate

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Speaker 3: favorite in every game any one.

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Speaker 5: Of those teams have played. This weekend.

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Speaker 2: They would dominate some other NFL teams. Yes, bumps, all right,

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Speaker 2: we are going to spend some time on the CFP

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Speaker 2: point forty, we'll take a college basketball detour as well,

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Speaker 2: even though we don't want to more on the Bengals obviously.

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Speaker 2: Between now and six, let's spend some time on the

844
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Speaker 2: college football playoff. My favorite thing about this weekend, aside

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Speaker 2: from all the hypothetical games that Notre Dame jehan, was

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Speaker 2: one that was seventeen to nothing, Oklahoma over Miami over Alabama.

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Speaker 2: Early social looking at social media, a lot of tweets

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Speaker 2: got deleted. Yep, a lot of.

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Speaker 5: Tweets got deleted by the time people went to bed

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Speaker 5: on Friday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is uh look shout out to Alabama and

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Speaker 3: Oklahoma because it was easily the most entertaining game. Yes

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Speaker 3: of the college football playoff weekend.

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Speaker 2: Now that said, and I'll let you finish your thumb.

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Speaker 2: I enjoyed Miami, Texas A and M I wish that.

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Speaker 3: Game was at night. I wish that wasn't the first

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Speaker 3: game of the day. Yes, like that. That was my

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Speaker 3: only gripe about that, And watching Michael Irving on the

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Speaker 3: sideline terrifies a little bit much. Yeah, like Friday night

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Speaker 3: was awesome. Both those teams played well. Shut and give

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Speaker 3: it credit to Alabama, but the amount of people that

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Speaker 3: come out as soon as Alabama went down, and mostly

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Speaker 3: Notre Dame fans or Vanderbilt fans are like, I get

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Speaker 3: it to an extent. Yes, this weekend would have been

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Speaker 3: more fun if eleven and twelve were vand and Notre Dame.

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Speaker 3: It would have made better games. You could the BYU

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Speaker 3: in there as well. Yeah, but that's not the way

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Speaker 3: the system has been set up. When it was four teams,

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Speaker 3: everyone complained about teams five and six. Now it's twelve teams,

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Speaker 3: and people complained about teams thirteen and fourteen and giving

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Speaker 3: automatic bids two different.

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Speaker 4: Groups and levels.

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Speaker 3: Like, I'm not I can't take away what James Madison

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Speaker 3: did during the year that was the system that's been

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Speaker 3: put in place, correct, they thrived in it. Tulane same thing.

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Speaker 3: They lost Ole Miss forty five to ten in the

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Speaker 3: regular season. You knew what was coming, yeah, but they

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Speaker 3: played the system the right way and that's how they

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Speaker 3: they earned their right. Ten other teams earned their rights

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00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 3: as well. Those two automatic qualifiers earned at the same level.

881
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 3: So it's hard for me because one, I think the

882
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 3: system is flawed. Very On the other hand, though, like

883
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 3: it's not James Madison and Tulane's fault that the system

884
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 3: is flawed. I credit them for the season they had,

885
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 3: but the games would have been much more entertaining had

886
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 3: James Madison and Tulane not played in them.

887
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 5: I'm sympathetic to the little guy.

888
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm not sure that in as much as

889
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 2: the playoff field has obviously expanded, we're still only talking

890
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 2: about a handful of games. You know. This is why

891
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,760
Speaker 2: I like, I don't love the comparison to the NCAA Tournament.

892
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 5: The NCAA Tournament gives us sixty seven games.

893
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 2: There's going to be blowouts, and there's gonna be mismatches,

894
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 2: and you will find in there Cinderella Football's a different

895
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 2: type of sport entirely. I think a Cinderella is less

896
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 2: likely in a sport like football, which is so much

897
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 2: more physical, where so many other things have to happen.

898
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 5: You only get eleven games. I don't know that you

899
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 5: want one or two of them. And again, this was

900
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 5: a different type of year.

901
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 2: The ACC's weird tiebreakers put us in this situation to

902
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 2: a degree. I don't know that you want games that

903
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 2: look like James Madison versus Oregon, which was not as

904
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 2: close as the final score. I don't know that you

905
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 2: want games like that. I'll say this, I'm I have

906
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 2: a soft spot in my heart for the little guy,

907
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 2: in part because I'm a UC fan. But Group of

908
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 2: five college football has been significantly weakened. Utah is no

909
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 2: longer a G five school it was right back in

910
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 2: the in the two thousands. UCF is no longer a

911
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 2: G five school. Houston is no longer a G five school.

912
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:20,280
Speaker 2: Boise State, Cincinnati, Like we're talking about schools in teams

913
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 2: that had superlative seasons. What you see did in twenty

914
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 2: twenty one is not the same as what James Madison

915
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 2: did this year. You see went on the road and

916
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 2: beat Notre Dame, who finished fifth in the rankings that year.

917
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 2: You see went on the road and played a Big

918
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 2: ten team and beat them. They ran through their schedule,

919
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 2: they didn't lose a game. They had this sort of

920
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 2: season that would have put them in the playoff at twelve.

921
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,760
Speaker 2: I know that because it put them in the playoff

922
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 2: at four. I think you're gonna have to tell these

923
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 2: G five schools there's a way for you to make it,

924
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 2: but you're gonna have to have a special season.

925
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 4: Correct.

926
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 5: You're gonna have to do something that is beyond the Organs.

927
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 4: Nison Louislle by fourteen.

928
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 2: Madison was ranked twenty fourth, Tulane was ranked twentieth. Yeah,

929
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 2: I think you're gonna have to set a tighter range

930
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 2: inside which those schools need to be ranked for them

931
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 2: to make the playoff. I don't think you want in

932
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,240
Speaker 2: the college football playoff games.

933
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 5: You'll have exceptions. Upsets do happen.

934
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 2: You'll have a team that just has a great game plan,

935
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 2: or maybe they have a quarterback who's at a level

936
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 2: that he shouldn't be. But I think more often than not,

937
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 2: if you have G five schools in that aren't ranked

938
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 2: in the top twelve or in the top fifteen, you're

939
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 2: gonna have games that look like Old Miss versus Tulane

940
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:36,760
Speaker 2: or James Madison versus Oregon.

941
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 3: And like for Oregon and Old Miss, if I'm the

942
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 3: team's playing them, I'm pissed because now I'm like, well,

943
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,240
Speaker 3: this team gets a buy Yeah, they get to play

944
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 3: a home game and less time in between having to play.

945
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 4: They're more game ready right now.

946
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 3: Like I think right now, based on last year, none

947
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 3: of the teams would buys one.

948
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 4: Right now.

949
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 3: If I could pick a perfect spot, ou want to

950
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 3: be the fifth ranked team. You host number twelve, and

951
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,479
Speaker 3: then you play on a neutral site the fourth ranked team.

952
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 4: Yep, the last of the buys h five is the

953
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 4: sweet spot.

954
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 3: Because you look right now like Ohio State's last game

955
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 3: was in their Big Ten championship on December sixth, They're

956
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 3: gonna play December thirty first, that is, and that's if

957
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 3: you make your conference title game. That's an absurd amount

958
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 3: of time in between games. That's what I like right now. Like,

959
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 3: I like Texas Tech a lot, Organ's favorite in that game.

960
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 5: Yes, Texas Tech is getting a point in a half.

961
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 5: I will take it.

962
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like I like Teching that game.

963
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:39,280
Speaker 3: But like, if I'm Indiana, I'm not as comfortable waiting

964
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 3: all this time and watching Bama get confident. I'm not

965
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 3: if I'm Georgia. Let Old Miss without Lane Kiffin get

966
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 3: a game under their belt with talent.

967
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 2: And I feel like with Alabama, the time to get

968
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 2: them was Friday because of all the stuff.

969
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 5: Swirling around Caitlin.

970
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 2: Now that's quieted, and now that's quieted, and it feels

971
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 2: like there's a chance there'll be more focused going into

972
00:45:58,280 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 2: that game than they looked on Friday.

973
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 3: And even if you're Ohio State, you're favored by a lot,

974
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 3: but your kryptonite was you got beat up on the

975
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 3: offensive and defensive line. In Miami's lines were dominant against

976
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 3: Texas A and M. So this is the weird shift

977
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 3: now because you get in and you get to buy

978
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 3: and it's like great season. But now you almost start

979
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 3: to think, is it too long in between games to wait?

980
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 3: Like Ohio State's last game was a game they got

981
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 3: out physical thirteen to ten. Now they're gonna come up

982
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 3: against a team who's more game ready right now because

983
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 3: they've played in that short amount of time. Like that,

984
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 3: to me is the part of the system that I

985
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:35,879
Speaker 3: don't like I don't like that the amount of time

986
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 3: these guys have to wait.

987
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 5: Now.

988
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I think what we saw, especially because these

989
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 2: first round games are on campus, you can draw up

990
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 2: the bracket on that Saturday, that first Saturday, you can

991
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 2: have games the next weekend. You're not asking, correct, you're

992
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,240
Speaker 2: not asking fans and travel. They're gonna be on campus sites.

993
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 5: You can turn.

994
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 2: I think what we learned during COVID was you can

995
00:46:58,600 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 2: put together games pretty quickly.

996
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 4: Yeah.

997
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 5: Right, So I would just move everything up.

998
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 2: The national title game is going to be on the

999
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 2: nineteenth of January.

1000
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 5: That's four weeks.

1001
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 2: From today, if I'm not mistaken, I would move everything

1002
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 2: up and put those teams that are in a bye

1003
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 2: in a better position to be ready. I would also

1004
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 2: play the quarterfinal games on campus sites.

1005
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1006
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 3: Like, I just that there should be that should be

1007
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 3: a reward for the top four teams college football.

1008
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 4: And you make us waite, we're playing a whole game,

1009
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 4: right what.

1010
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 2: They do with the ball games, I frankly don't care.

1011
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 2: But like Miami and Ohio State should be in Columbus.

1012
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:38,240
Speaker 2: Can you imagine Bloomington hosting Alabama? Like would be awesome,

1013
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 2: would be awesome.

1014
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 3: The caveat to having them wait so long as you

1015
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:45,439
Speaker 3: get to play it at home. Right now, what gets

1016
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 3: lost in this? And I feel bad for all of

1017
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 3: these quarterfinal games? You get Ohio State plays on New

1018
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 3: Year's Eve, the other three play on New Year's Day?

1019
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 3: But how many people are focused on New Year's Day?

1020
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 3: When the day after New Year's the Bearcats and Navy

1021
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 3: in the Liberty Bowl a little bit of a look ahead.

1022
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 3: It's a look ahead for a lot of fans, Like

1023
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 3: I could turn on the TV on the first, or

1024
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 3: I could just rest and lock into games on January second.

1025
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a little bit of a letdown, right, it's

1026
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 2: you're serving up too big of an appetizer on the first. Yeah,

1027
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 2: for the main course on the sect. Give us a

1028
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 2: day off in between, you know, Samas Jones and Brady

1029
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 2: Litzenberger and take the country by storm with what they

1030
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:24,760
Speaker 2: do against Navy.

1031
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 4: The midshipmen.

1032
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 2: The midshipmen are not going to know how to handle that.

1033
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 2: Three to three, five of Tyson Vite couldn't agree more.

1034
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 3: I mean, it's that was my only thought, like looking

1035
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 3: at the schedule, like, oh yeah, that's not fair.

1036
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 2: Three games and you've got to think by by the

1037
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 2: time we get to the third game of the day

1038
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 2: on the first, there's gonna be okay.

1039
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 5: I've had enough.

1040
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll tune back in tomorrow to.

1041
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 5: Get my mind right for the Liberty Bowl.

1042
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, get it.

1043
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 5: I understand it's tough.

1044
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 2: I do think it's going to be interesting to see

1045
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 2: in what year they do expand to sixteen. I do

1046
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 2: think it's going to be interesting moving forward to see

1047
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 2: how they handle uh G five schools and again.

1048
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 4: Like I.

1049
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 2: Want everybody to have a chance. I think college football

1050
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 2: is full of snobbery, and I think that applies to

1051
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 2: schools like Indiana and Vanderbilt and Georgia Tech that are

1052
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,959
Speaker 2: kind of new to the party and the old guard

1053
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 2: looks down their noses at them. I think there are

1054
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 2: SEC fans of today. You the entire playoff field should

1055
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 2: be SEC schools. I just as a fan, I want

1056
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 2: great games, and if I only get eleven playoff games,

1057
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 2: I don't want one or two of them to be

1058
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 2: almost guaranteed lopsided games. And I think you had that

1059
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 2: this year. I think you have to reduce the possibility

1060
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 2: of that being hurt.

1061
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 4: Like I tune in, I'm like this is boring. Yeah,

1062
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 4: it's just it.

1063
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 5: Takes away for a path a little bit James Madden, and.

1064
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 3: It's like, man, it's just right, what should be an

1065
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 3: exciting time twelve teams, this is it.

1066
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 4: It just it takes aways done a little bit and

1067
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 4: then you gotta wait forever, yeah, to get the next

1068
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 4: round in.

1069
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 2: And then you do get them in the NCAA Basketball tournament. Okay,

1070
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 2: that's happening, but there's two other games happening at the

1071
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 2: same time, right, or it's one out of sixty seven,

1072
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 2: or there's gonna be a game on next And also,

1073
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 2: I think the likelihood of you know, we've we've obviously

1074
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 2: had a sixteen win in Maryland Baltimore County, and we've

1075
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 2: seen Purdue go down and we watched Kentucky lose to Oak.

1076
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 2: Like upsets do happen, I think they're more likely in

1077
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 2: a sport like basketball, where a guy can get hot

1078
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 2: from outside, there is the three point shot, there's a

1079
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,479
Speaker 2: lot of variables that aren't necessarily there in football, where

1080
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 2: eventually I think the bigger, stronger, faster team is gonna win.

1081
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 2: Maybe not in the most lopsided fashion, but they're gonna win.

1082
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 3: And you're also hurting your product. What else happened on Saturday?

1083
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 3: Two NFL games right in a loaded slate of college basketball? Yes,

1084
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 3: so what are you asking people to do? Yeah, go

1085
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 3: to a different product. Yeah, here are two blowouts. Well

1086
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go check out I'm gonna go check out

1087
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 3: Texas Tech and Duke. I mean, oh, Chicago and green

1088
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 3: Bear playing. All right, I'll flip the TV over.

1089
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 5: I was in Greenville on Saturday night.

1090
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 2: The only thing I can cared about was Bears, Packers

1091
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 2: and Texas Tech Duke. Now, if on ATV was JMU

1092
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 2: versus Oregon, sure, okay, fine, and if it's close, I'll

1093
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 2: pay attention. But it's not going to be Give me

1094
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 2: Texas Tech, Duke, give me Packers Bears. Both were going

1095
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 2: to be better games. Both were a better Gameypes. It

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Speaker 2: on the road against the La Kings. It was a

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Speaker 2: fun week sixteen in the NFL. Yeah, starting with Thursday

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Speaker 2: night with that game between the Rams and the Seattle Seahawks.

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Speaker 2: I have consumed all the Rams kool aid all year long, yep,

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Speaker 2: I'm not selling my stock.

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Speaker 4: No, I still think they are, at the end of it,

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Speaker 4: the favorite in the NFC.

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Speaker 5: How about them as a five seed?

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Speaker 4: Yikes?

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Speaker 5: How about them going to Carolina?

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Speaker 3: Wouldn't be fun for the Panthers. Although the Panthers a

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Speaker 3: huge win, huge win over the Bucks. Stafford's been phenomenal.

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Speaker 3: They were without Davante Adams Pookaakua out of this world.

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Speaker 3: Right now they can run it. Their defense has to

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Speaker 3: get better. You want to talk about though, no nonsense.

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00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 3: Here's a team that was literally playing for a number

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Speaker 3: one overall seed. Things didn't go the way McVeigh fires

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Speaker 3: this special teams coach a.

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Speaker 5: Little bit different in LA huh Like you.

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Speaker 3: Want to talk about urgency. Hey, we're trying to win this.

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Speaker 3: This isn't good enough or moving on?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: That is I I want that in my head.

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Speaker 3: Coach, you're not pulling up your your end of the

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Speaker 3: of the bargain here, You're out see yea, And that

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Speaker 3: sends that. That sends a message to the rest of

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Speaker 3: the staff and the team.

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Speaker 5: I'm rooting for the Chicago Bears.

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Speaker 4: I am too. I'm not. I don't know why I'm

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Speaker 4: not sold on it. Yet.

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Speaker 3: But man, Caleb Williams and his turnaround, what Ben Johnson

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Speaker 3: has done there. I mean you remember the start of

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Speaker 3: the year and Detroit went and like scored fifty one

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Speaker 3: on him, and it was like, man, it's Ben Johnson

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Speaker 3: in over his head.

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Speaker 4: And they've been awesome.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, ever since then, and it's like been weird ways, right,

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Speaker 3: they score and get the on side kick and then score.

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Speaker 3: It's it's not been conventional by any means, but they

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Speaker 3: are fun to watch.

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Speaker 5: Well, we saw how they beat the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's kind of been the script they followed

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Speaker 2: all year long.

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Speaker 5: How sustainable that's going to be? In good decision?

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Speaker 2: I don't know game and Caleb Williams has his skeptics,

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Speaker 2: and I'm not going to say I'm not among them,

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Speaker 2: but there's nothing like feeling like as an organization, you've

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Speaker 2: got your coach and you've got your QB.

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Speaker 5: And I think there's reason to feel that in Chicago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned the Jags before six consecutive victories. What

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Speaker 2: does that loss say about the Denver Broncos, who were

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Speaker 2: at home yesterday and lost by multiple scores.

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Speaker 3: I think yesterday honestly said more about how good the

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Speaker 3: Jags are. Yeah, like it feels like the Broncos have

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Speaker 3: been flirting with it for a while now, Jags, man,

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Speaker 3: they stopped the run. ETN is coming on and you

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Speaker 3: were talking about matching a coach with a quarterback Cohen

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Speaker 3: and Trevor Lawrence. It just fits like it's weird in

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Speaker 3: the AFC people talking about the Patriots and and and

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Speaker 3: the teams. I'd be worried about the Texans and the

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Speaker 3: Jags right now. Those would be the teams. And the

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Speaker 3: Chargers could could theoretically catch the Broncos still at this point.

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Speaker 3: So you know, what the Chargers did to Dallas I

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Speaker 3: thought was impressive. But the way the Jaguars have played

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Speaker 3: and the defense has been consistent. But all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence is now shaping into the guy that I

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Speaker 3: think a lot of people hoped he would be. And

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Speaker 3: they I think one of the under the radar signings

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Speaker 3: or the free agent moves, trade deadline Jacoby Myers. They

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Speaker 3: love Jacoby Myers, and they've done it without Travis Hunter,

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Speaker 3: who's been on the IR for some time. So that's

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Speaker 3: an interesting team to watch and I think a legitimate contender.

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Speaker 2: Yet it too AFC being wide open. Lawrence, It's never

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Speaker 2: been a question of talent. We talked earlier about the

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Speaker 2: matching of him with Leam Cohen and how much coaching

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Speaker 2: matters in this league.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: I still think and they were in a bigger dog

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Speaker 2: fight than anybody ever would have imagined, and c J.

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Speaker 2: Stroud wasn't very good. You could convince me the Texans

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Speaker 2: win the AFC. You can convince me they lose their

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Speaker 2: first game and maybe handily.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 3: I just they've not been consistent enough on offense. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: their defense is awesome, terrific, But you know, if a

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Speaker 3: team can score a couple early and put them away,

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Speaker 3: but if that team's playing from ahead with c J.

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Speaker 4: Stroud in that defense, good luck.

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Speaker 5: Mentioning the Bears.

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Speaker 2: After the game, Caleb Williams shouted into microphones that his

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Speaker 2: coach is the best in the world, Ben Johnson, could

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Speaker 2: you ever see Joe Burrow doing that about Zath Taylor?

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Speaker 3: No, to a point, Aaron Rodgers and Cam Hayward kind

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Speaker 3: of did that with Mike Tomlin walking off the field.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Sure, But I think that it's interesting because Pittsburgh a

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Speaker 2: few games ago, fans are channing fire Tomlin and the

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Speaker 2: players and say what you want about Mike Tomlin and

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Speaker 2: the Steelers, and I like it when they're bad. And again,

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Speaker 2: they haven't had a losing season now under Mike Tomlins. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but I do think it's interesting the fans are channing

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Speaker 2: fire Tomlin and the players had a visceral reaction to that,

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Speaker 2: a public reaction to that. Zach Taylor's got a guy

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Speaker 2: putting up billboards about it, which, by the way, cool,

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Speaker 2: Yeah to me, Like, no different than somebody calling a

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Speaker 2: talk show.

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Speaker 4: So don't you want to do your money?

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Speaker 5: Your money?

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00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 2: Hell, call on a talk shows free. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 2: charge you whatever that billboard.

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00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 3: In talk show and say you want Zach Taylor fire

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Speaker 3: or you could pay for a billboard.

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Speaker 4: Or do both.

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Speaker 2: So well, any of the players have this obvious response

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Speaker 2: to You might say that their performance yesterday was the response.

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Speaker 4: But like them winning, Like are they running off the

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Speaker 4: field with Zach Yeah it's our guy. No, No, it was.

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Speaker 5: There was none of that, No, but just five And

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Speaker 5: should there.

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Speaker 3: Be no, that would be more worrisome, That would be

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Speaker 3: a lot a lot more worrisome.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, they did win, and we are going to

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Speaker 2: talk about it coming up in the five o'clock hour,

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Speaker 2: and we.

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Speaker 4: Got a lot to get to.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna take no.

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Speaker 2: Last week we took a college basketball detour because we

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00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 2: had a chance to talk to Richard Patina. Sure he

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00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 2: is not available available Cooley, I'm telling you, man, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 5: If that's any number of other.

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Speaker 2: College basketball coaches pasted or that throw a water bottle

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Speaker 2: into the stands and hit a child, can you even imagine.

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Speaker 3: If that was me and my kids sitting there, I'd

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Speaker 3: put on a lebron Worthy flop. I'd be on the floor.

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Speaker 3: My kid would be on the floor. Wouldn't be good.

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Speaker 5: When Bob Huggins was that you see?

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Speaker 2: Or Westfridge if he turns around flings a water bottle

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Speaker 2: in the stands and it hits a kid, can you

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Speaker 2: even And again, whatever criticism would have come his way,

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Speaker 2: he would have deserved.

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Speaker 5: Ed Cooley does.

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Speaker 4: Gets a game, Yeah, I gets a one game.

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Speaker 5: I think it's against Coppin State.

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Speaker 4: Maybe, Yeah, all right, slap on the wrist.

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Speaker 2: I can you imagine some of the bigger name can

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Speaker 2: you Jim Beheim?

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Speaker 4: My kid would be in a neck brace.

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Speaker 2: Imagine Mike Krzyzewski decides I'm gonna throw a water bottle.

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Speaker 2: I this It's just like, uh yeah, that's unfortunate.

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Speaker 3: Yep, it's unbelievable. And Ed Cooley's a good coach, but

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Speaker 3: the Wes Miller threw one.

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Speaker 2: It is twelve minutes away from five o'clock where at

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Speaker 2: Twin Peaks in Florence. It's the Tony College Basketball Detour

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Speaker 2: is coming up. Last week we had on Richard Patino.

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Speaker 2: The week before that, we had to talk about the

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Speaker 2: Skyline Chili Crosstown Shootout.

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Speaker 5: There were games this weekend.

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Speaker 2: We are gonna take a college basketball dtot for as

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Speaker 2: much as I don't think either of us want to

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Speaker 2: turn it up in the five o'clock hour and the

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01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 2: contractionally obligatory airing of Zach Taylor's press conference as well

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Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.

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Speaker 7: between Western Avenue and Fort Washington Way. Normally, if you're

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Speaker 7: trying to make that drive, it takes you about twenty

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Speaker 7: minutes or so. At about fifteen minutes to your.

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Speaker 1: Is the Tony and Mo Football Show Live from Twin Peaks,

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Speaker 1: for the past eight years. Chevrolet Together. Let's Drive on

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Speaker 1: ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Gee Power Hour, Yes, five o'clock hour of the Tonian

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Speaker 2: Mo Football Show. We are broadcasting from Twin Peaks in Florence.

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Speaker 2: It is awesome to be here the Monday of Christmas

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Speaker 2: and the day after the Bengals beat the Miami Dolphins

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Speaker 2: forty five to twenty one. If you are out in

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Speaker 2: about in northern Kentucky, it's it's Christmas week, right, What.

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Speaker 4: Are we doing?

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01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 5: Nobody's nobody's working.

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01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 4: Why aren't you here?

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01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 2: Nobody wants to cook? So come to Twin Peaks. Pick

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01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 2: off the menu. They got tons of awesome food beers

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01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 2: called pot roase. Guy, I gotta I got a cold

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01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 2: Budweiser in front of me.

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Speaker 4: That's kind of changed my life.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean for years here I was just chicken tenders

1340
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Speaker 4: or Barker.

1341
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 5: I got the flatbread today, which was outstanding.

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Speaker 4: Pot roast has changed.

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Speaker 5: Next week or go pot roast.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back in Westchester next week. Right off, I

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Speaker 2: seventy five. Get off at the Turfway Road exit. You'll

1346
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Speaker 2: be here in seconds. You can watch the Monday night

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Speaker 2: football game tonight Colts and forty nine ers. You got

1348
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Speaker 2: all the college football playoff action coming up.

1349
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Speaker 3: Maybe tomorrow your bored during the day, there's day basketball.

1350
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 3: The Wildcats play Bellerman.

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01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 2: Tomorrow is is tomorrow Miami's bulgain the the sup.

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Speaker 5: See now I'm gonna have to pause the show so

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Speaker 5: i can look.

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Speaker 4: I'm almost certain I know the bush beans.

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Speaker 3: One more, if you bring beans in to the Louisville

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Speaker 3: ball game, you get in free.

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Speaker 4: I know that one's.

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Speaker 5: Tomorrow, almost certain, Top twenty Fi.

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Speaker 4: Mac Snoop Dog's Bowl.

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Speaker 5: Suddenly, Suddenly, ESPN's the interface. I don't know Miami's ball game.

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Speaker 5: You see, I sound really really really good and really prepared.

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Speaker 2: Miami plays. That's not tomorrow. Tomorrow's Louisville and Toledo in

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Speaker 2: the Boca Raton.

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Speaker 3: That's the Bush's be Yeah, if you're bringing beans, you

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Speaker 3: get a free ticket.

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Speaker 5: That's Miami's game.

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Speaker 2: Miami plays. Oh, Miami's game is on the twenty seventh. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that's a good segment right there. All right, So well

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Speaker 2: you can still watch the game here, Yeah, twenty seventh,

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Speaker 2: twenty seventh, they got all those ball games, yep, some

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Speaker 2: NFL games on the twenty seventh. You can watch any

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Speaker 2: sport you want to watch. Your twin peaks in Florence,

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01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 2: So do that. Yeah, beers cold TVs are plentiful.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if you're working today, surely you're not working tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Without Who's You're not working tomorrow thanks to Kentucky, thanks

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Speaker 2: to the UK bass I will work tomorrow after UK basketball.

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Speaker 5: A nice ninety minute show. Nice before the holiday.

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Speaker 3: We'll get together on Christmas for a Christmas Morning spectacle

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Speaker 3: of course.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna leave our families Christmas morning to hang out

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Speaker 2: with Lance and Austin yep, and recap the year that

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Speaker 2: was in Cincinnati sports.

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Speaker 4: What a positive show that should be.

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure what's gonna be worse, the look back

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Speaker 5: or the look ahead.

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Speaker 4: That's good. That's a good point.

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Speaker 5: Let's look back to yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Bengals did beat the Miami Dolphins forty five to twenty one.

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Speaker 2: That yesterday is what it should look like. Dominant offensive performance,

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Speaker 2: terrific game by Joe Burrow. Chase Brown was awesome. T

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Speaker 2: Higgins was great, Jamar Chase was good, weaponry all over

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Speaker 2: the place.

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Speaker 5: They blocked for him.

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Speaker 2: The defense was good ish, they were opportunistic, They were

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Speaker 2: certainly better in the second half. That's what it should

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Speaker 2: look like whether you're playing a lousy, checked out team

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Speaker 2: like the Miami Dolphins, or a good team. Unfortunately, what

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Speaker 2: it looked like most of the season is not reflective

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Speaker 2: of what it looked like yesterday.

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Speaker 3: That yesterday was the definition of a middle of the

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Speaker 3: pack defense for the Bengals. That's all they got to be,

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01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 3: be that middle of the pack defense. And if you

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Speaker 3: have Joe Burrow, T Higgins, Jamar Chase, and Chase Brown

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Speaker 3: on the field together more times than not, you're going

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Speaker 3: to win more games than you lose.

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Speaker 4: It's as simple as that. You could talk about.

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Speaker 3: You know, the Cam Grandy catch yesterday, big catch, Drew Sample.

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Speaker 3: People talk about Darnell Washington. You imagined Drew Sample bearing

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Speaker 3: down on you after that throw from Joe Burrow. Burrow

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Speaker 3: found nine different receivers. We talked about it. Jamar Chase

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Speaker 3: is so good it feels like if he's not getting

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Speaker 3: one hundred yards, something happened in the game. He's that

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Speaker 3: dominant right now. T Higgins coming back and playing. You

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Speaker 3: and I watched every practice of training camp and every

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Speaker 3: day Chase Brown was one of the first on the

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Speaker 3: field not doing running back stuff, catching passes. He wanted

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Speaker 3: to be a three down back. You wanted to be

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Speaker 3: a pass catcher. He's that more this year. He's he's

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Speaker 3: got a thousand yard rushing season that's attainable. A little

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Speaker 3: under one hundred and sixty yards he needs in the

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Speaker 3: last two games. But what he's done as a complete

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Speaker 3: back and a pass catching thread out of the backfield,

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Speaker 3: you can Yesterday was the glimpse when it all comes together. Offensively,

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Speaker 3: just how good and how fun this is.

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Speaker 5: Did it alter anybody's opinion?

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Speaker 4: It better not have.

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Speaker 5: I think that's it.

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Speaker 2: Shouldn't you hate to do this because this franchise does

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Speaker 2: have a track record of allowing some largely meaningless results

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Speaker 2: to impact really meaningful decisions.

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Speaker 3: But offensively, it shouldn't. Like offensively, the decisions are made.

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Speaker 3: You got to find probably a wide receiver number three, yeah,

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Speaker 3: and maybe some depth.

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Speaker 2: They need depth on the offensive line, and I think

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Speaker 2: long term, you got to think about what you're gonna

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Speaker 2: do a left tackle in its center.

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Speaker 5: But that unit's fine. You're gonna bring back Jamar t Chase.

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Speaker 4: Eric All.

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Speaker 2: Eric All will hopefully come back. I hope to god

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Speaker 2: that dude gets a chance to play, because for those

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Speaker 2: four or five games last year when they started to

1443
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Speaker 2: shift how they played offensively. Yep, he was everything I've

1444
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 2: wanted in a tight end my entire adult life, and

1445
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Speaker 2: I just I hope it works out for the guy.

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Speaker 5: But offensively you're good. Here's the thing about this offseason.

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Speaker 2: And then this is in large part because the offensive

1448
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:25,720
Speaker 2: line has been pretty good. And again, you can never

1449
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 2: have enough. You can never have enough offensive line depth.

1450
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Speaker 2: Correct development with the younger guys does need to continue.

1451
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 2: But there's only one thing they have to do now.

1452
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 2: That one thing is huge. You got to overhaul his defense.

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Speaker 4: That's that's the worry.

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Speaker 2: But it's not overhaul the defense and overhaul the offensive line.

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Speaker 2: And I think at the beginning of the season we

1456
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Speaker 2: were wondering, are they gonna have to do both? Now

1457
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Speaker 2: you gotta tweak one and add to one and overhaul

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Speaker 2: the other.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's like again at the root of it,

1460
01:08:56,560 --> 01:09:00,640
Speaker 3: still have an understanding his quin yours. It's Jacobe and

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01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 3: it should dor Sanders. Regardless of what happens in the

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01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 3: next two. The defense should look better, should al Golden

1463
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:10,760
Speaker 3: should get the letter D back in his name. He

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01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 3: should earn that over the last two. That's really the one,

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01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 3: Like m on what you're watching the out line. Get

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Speaker 3: that D back in his name because he lost it

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Speaker 3: throughout the year.

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Speaker 2: The last Tony and Mode football show, I'll bring the

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Speaker 2: letter D yep, and we'll see if we give it

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Speaker 2: back to him.

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Speaker 3: I'm yes, I agree, But but again, this this off

1472
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Speaker 3: season should be met with urgency and in a higher expectation.

1473
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:37,520
Speaker 3: Last year, riding out the stretch, they sniffed the playoffs,

1474
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Speaker 3: and this organization said, I don't think we're as far off.

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Speaker 3: We don't need any big changes. You can't approach this

1476
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Speaker 3: offseason this way. And I do think it is worth

1477
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Speaker 3: noting Ryan Ricos had a heck of a year. Okay,

1478
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 3: Evan McPherson's had a great bounce.

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Speaker 5: Back, no question, and that was the correct special.

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01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:00,720
Speaker 3: Teams you feel better about Rico. I mean, I think

1481
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:03,080
Speaker 3: the coffin corner stuff should be worked on. He's got

1482
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:04,599
Speaker 3: a monster leg.

1483
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 2: If I need him to kick the ball sixty yards,

1484
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 2: he's awesome. If I need him to hit a web shot,

1485
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:12,600
Speaker 2: then you know, put it inside the ten that.

1486
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 4: Work on the pitching wage.

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01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 3: But yeah, McPherson people went into the season like, hey,

1489
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 3: McPherson needs and he's had a great year.

1490
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, So you feel better about that.

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01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 3: Nothing over these final couple weeks should change how much

1492
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:27,640
Speaker 3: help this defense.

1493
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 2: Needs, right And to me, what they did yesterday on

1494
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 2: offense is confirmation of the urgency they should act with

1495
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:36,840
Speaker 2: to get this fixed immediately, because if you do, that's

1496
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 2: the offense that can carry you to the postseason next year.

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01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 4: Yep.

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01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:42,800
Speaker 2: Can you build around that a defense that puts you

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01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 2: back in the championship conversation? Yeah, like, that's that is

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01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:49,600
Speaker 2: the There are two main questions to this offseason for me,

1501
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 2: and they are related. One is, can you lift your

1502
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:57,759
Speaker 2: offense to a championship level by building a good enough defense?

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01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 2: You we've talked about the whole like have a league

1504
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:03,599
Speaker 2: average defense thing. I get that, But in the fourth

1505
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:05,639
Speaker 2: quarter of games that are closed, can you get stops

1506
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter of games when you're down by

1507
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 2: a score and you want to give the ball back

1508
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:10,559
Speaker 2: to Joe Burrow? Can you do it in the fourth

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01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:12,679
Speaker 2: quarter of games where you're up for and you're trying

1510
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:14,839
Speaker 2: to salt the game away, does your defense get stops?

1511
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:18,760
Speaker 2: If the answer is yes, offensively they're good enough, Like

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01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 2: yesterday was tantalizing. Yesterday to me was evidence of if

1513
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:23,480
Speaker 2: you can fix.

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Speaker 5: This one thing?

1515
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 2: Look at what you have over here that is more

1516
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 2: than good enough. So that's one question and the other

1517
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 2: one is one that you and Austin have talked about

1518
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 2: a ton, and that's if you don't make changes, can

1519
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 2: you still have change?

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01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:35,840
Speaker 5: Right?

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01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 2: If it does, changes aren't gonna equal firings, and so

1522
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:42,720
Speaker 2: can the same people change how they do things? And this,

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01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 2: to me is gonna be something we talk about separately

1524
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 2: and together for months on end. If we assume it's

1525
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 2: gonna be Duke and Zach and this coaching staff, are

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01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 2: there going to be changes something you have hit on

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Speaker 2: for years?

1528
01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 5: Zach Taylor is a play caller.

1529
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 2: Will this be an offseason where they go, you know what,

1530
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:03,680
Speaker 2: maybe there's a better way to function on offense and

1531
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 2: maybe that involves Zach Taylor relinquishing play calling duties. Is

1532
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 2: there going to be a shift in how they evaluate

1533
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 2: college prospects where now it's not going to be what

1534
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 2: the tape measure says, it's gonna be what the film says.

1535
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 2: It's not gonna be your forty time, it's gonna be

1536
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 2: can you play football? Did you do things when you

1537
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 2: were playing football? Are they going to add to the staff.

1538
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 2: Are they going to be analytics people, Are there going

1539
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:28,720
Speaker 2: to be scouts, all that sort of stuff that to me,

1540
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:31,760
Speaker 2: those are the two main questions. Can they take that

1541
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 2: offense and around it build a defense that is good

1542
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 2: enough to eventually soon be back in the championship conversation.

1543
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 3: My goal, if I was Duke Toven and this organization

1544
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 3: in the offseason would be to make Joe Burrow feel

1545
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 3: like he can win a super Bowl here again and

1546
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 3: that he doesn't have to be perfect every game to

1547
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:49,640
Speaker 3: do it.

1548
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 5: Uh huh.

1549
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:52,600
Speaker 3: That's my goal, Yeah, because if you address all the

1550
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 3: things you just highlight, then you're sending that message to

1551
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow, Hey, we can win a super Bowl here

1552
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 3: and you don't have to be for.

1553
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 4: Us to do it.

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01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 5: Uh huh.

1555
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 3: Those are two things that need to be presented to

1556
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 3: Joe Bartrow. Not because Joe's gonna walk away, but that's

1557
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:10,599
Speaker 3: what you should be operating in if you're an organization,

1558
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 3: you've got a franchise guy, one of the best in

1559
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 3: the league, to do it, show him that he can

1560
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 3: win a title here and show him that he doesn't

1561
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 3: have to be perfect every time he steps on the

1562
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 3: field to do it.

1563
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, this Joe Burrows psychoanalysis, which God knows I've participated in.

1564
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:28,839
Speaker 2: I am over because I think the solution is obvious.

1565
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 2: How they do it might not be easy. Just give

1566
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 2: Joe a better chance, yep, Give them a better chance.

1567
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 2: Have performances like yesterday matter. Have performances like the ones

1568
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:39,679
Speaker 2: they've wasted.

1569
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 5: Matter. And at the end of the day, I mean

1570
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:45,520
Speaker 5: to me, of all the losses.

1571
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 2: This year that we will go back and talk about

1572
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:49,679
Speaker 2: when the season is over, the one that stands out

1573
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 2: the most is the Buffalo game. Yeah, because number one,

1574
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 2: for about forty five minutes in that game, we thought, like, dude, they.

1575
01:13:58,000 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 5: May re enter the conversation here.

1576
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 2: Number two, the moment Joe made a mistake, the chances

1577
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 2: of winning went away, right. And what is Disfranchise's brand

1578
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 2: is QB play must be perfect. And on that day

1579
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 2: it was really good, but it wasn't perfect, so they

1580
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 2: didn't win.

1581
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 3: It's exhausting, YEP. Talked about it's mentally exhausting going forward.

1582
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 3: So I hope, you know, for for their sake, I

1583
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 3: hope that that that message is sent because it should be.

1584
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 3: You should be trying to build a championship contender.

1585
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:30,639
Speaker 5: Should be we'll see, we'll.

1586
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 4: See right, talk tomally what it comes down to.

1587
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 2: But I I kind of look at yesterday through a

1588
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 2: more positive lens of duke, like half the work's done

1589
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 2: for you, yep. Like you have Burrow, Chase, Higgins, Brown

1590
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 2: and whatever other pieces you want to build around on

1591
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 2: offense and a and an years a trending in the

1592
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 2: right direction offensive line. Like, dude, how many gms dukes

1593
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 2: of de facto GM You may have heard, how many

1594
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 2: gms have a lot of work to do this offseason,

1595
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 2: but at least have that. It's like we talk about

1596
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:07,640
Speaker 2: with the Reds and Nick Crawl is screwing up this offseason.

1597
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:10,800
Speaker 2: But hey man, Nick, you do have Hunter Green, Nicolodolo,

1598
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 2: Andrew Abbott, Chase Burns down the road, Chase, Like a

1599
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 2: lot of gms who are trying to make their team

1600
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 2: better would love to have that. How many gms who

1601
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 2: have their work cut out for in this offseason would

1602
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 2: love to have that offense that was on this play yesterday?

1603
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 4: And all you got to do is tinker with that

1604
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 4: side of the ball.

1605
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 5: They don't need a tinker overhaul. You need.

1606
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:37,400
Speaker 2: A starting caliber defensive tackle. In free agency, you need

1607
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:40,760
Speaker 2: a starting caliber edge rusher in free agency. You need

1608
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 2: a linebacker who can cover in free agency. You need

1609
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 2: a legitimate NFL caliber starting safety in free agency, and

1610
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 2: you probably need a corner in free agency. Right, and

1611
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 2: that those aren't all going to be all pro players,

1612
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:58,240
Speaker 2: but you need upgrades them from other teams.

1613
01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 5: I'm not talking about the draft, correct.

1614
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:03,680
Speaker 3: You need reads, proven guys, yeah, that have done it

1615
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 3: before at a high level in the NFL.

1616
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 5: So it ain't tinker.

1617
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 4: You're right, there's a lot of work.

1618
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 2: Nineteen after five o'clock, we're a Twin Peaks in Florence,

1619
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 2: Tony and Mo football show with a college basketball detour

1620
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 2: coming up in just about fifteen minutes. I have a feeling,

1621
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:24,519
Speaker 2: and I'll warn you now the college basketball detour is

1622
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 2: going to be focused pretty much on one team.

1623
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:29,520
Speaker 4: Power, positivity, Happy Holidays.

1624
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 5: This is ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports.

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01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:37,640
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Speaker 7: seventy one right at the split in Walton, we have

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Speaker 8: Pick up a couple of crashes.

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Speaker 7: If you're out and about on this Monday, Congriana Avenue

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Speaker 7: at Hoppole, there's a crash there and still dealing with

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Speaker 7: that earlier crash on Hunt Road at Plainfield World. Police

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Speaker 7: are on the scene of both of those crashes. Used

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Speaker 6: fifteen point thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 2: A few minutes here at Twin Peaks in Florence, Tony

1646
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 2: Above Football Show. Just saw this on ESPN DK Metcalf

1647
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 2: gets a two game suspension for the incident with the

1648
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:46,720
Speaker 2: fan yesterday in Detroit, so he is done for the

1649
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 2: regular season. He'll miss this week and the finale. They

1650
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 2: played the Browns this week in the Ravens, which may

1651
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:55,679
Speaker 2: or may not mean anything.

1652
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:58,679
Speaker 4: Ay Week eighteen, take care of the Browns. They're good.

1653
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 5: Yes, number is one.

1654
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Baltimore starts to go and win at

1655
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 3: Green Bay Saturday night, and then they would need Cleveland

1656
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 3: to beat Pittsburgh and then would come down to the

1657
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 3: final week.

1658
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 2: So the Chiefs are going to move to Kansas Wow

1659
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 2: twenty thirty one, leaving Arrowhead Stadium, plays they have called

1660
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 2: home since nineteen seventy two. And I thought I had

1661
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 2: one other NFL note that I was going to mention.

1662
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:24,599
Speaker 2: I totally forgot what it was. Must not have been

1663
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 2: that important.

1664
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:31,680
Speaker 3: Nope, Monday Night Football, the Ageless Wonder Philip Rivers. So

1665
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 3: what do you make of San Francisco this year?

1666
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 5: M Kyle Shannon hanshon be the coach of the year.

1667
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 4: Their schedule has been so weak, it.

1668
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 5: Has been like, I don't know, they have ten wins.

1669
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 4: How good are they?

1670
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 3: Like in the NFC wise, like they they're not very

1671
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 3: well win at all or they could get bounce in

1672
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 3: the first round.

1673
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 2: Yes, pretty well, but I would say that about a

1674
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 2: lot of different teams. Yeah, I don't put them in

1675
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 2: the same category as I would La.

1676
01:18:57,240 --> 01:19:00,519
Speaker 3: Man McCaffrey's so good though, But you know what, Like

1677
01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 3: you know, they only have like fifteen or sixteen and

1678
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 3: a half sacks? Which team they don't get after the passer.

1679
01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:08,600
Speaker 2: Would you give him no chance against Chicago? Would you

1680
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 2: give him no chance against Philadelphia? Would you give him

1681
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:12,680
Speaker 2: no chance against No, That's what I mean.

1682
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 3: Like, I think they would have a chance like their Achilles.

1683
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 3: I think they have sixteen and a half sacks as

1684
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:19,759
Speaker 3: a team, right, They just don't get after the passer.

1685
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 3: They lost Bosa early in the year, but you want

1686
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:26,240
Speaker 3: to talk about a team that battled injuries. Yes, Fred Warner,

1687
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:28,679
Speaker 3: Bosa should be the coach of the Year. Rock Cardy

1688
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 3: missed a lot of time. They made it work with

1689
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 3: Mac Jones.

1690
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 5: Philip Rivers is a fun story. He didn't play well. No,

1691
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:36,919
Speaker 5: he was competent.

1692
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:39,640
Speaker 4: That's why I'm interested in Lea seeing tonight. Yeah, let

1693
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:41,719
Speaker 4: me see him with a couple more days in the system.

1694
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:44,640
Speaker 2: Yep, all right, college basketball detour, whether we want to

1695
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 2: or not. Next, Tony and Moo Football Show twin Peaks

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01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 2: in Florence, ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 7: with a crash right now. If you're trying to make

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Speaker 7: your way in I seventy one southbound the off ramp

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01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:28,679
Speaker 7: to southbound I seventy one right at the split in Walton,

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01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:31,639
Speaker 7: we have that exit rap block due to a crash.

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01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:34,639
Speaker 8: How much dealing with your usual slow spots.

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Speaker 7: If you're out and bound on this Monday, stop and

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Speaker 7: go and seventy five southbound between Western Avenue and Fort

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Speaker 7: Washington Way. That seems to be the most congested area.

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01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 7: You can double your drive at this point, and we

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Speaker 7: have crash working to clear on Colrad and Avenue at

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Speaker 7: Hopple Street.

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Speaker 2: Paul Show at Twin Peaks at Florence on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: A reminder, we are back on Monday, though at the

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Speaker 2: West location. We look forward to that the day after

1721
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 2: the Bengals take on the Arizona Cardinals, and then back

1722
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:08,559
Speaker 2: here for the season finale two weeks from today Twin

1723
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 2: Peaks in Florence. You know here, Zach Taylor's press conference.

1724
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:14,800
Speaker 2: Excuse me, in just a couple of minutes, let's do this,

1725
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:18,920
Speaker 2: because we've done this the last couple of weeks. College

1726
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 2: basketball detour. I was there in Greenville yesterday, and I

1727
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 2: didn't have a great feeling about the game itself. Clemson's

1728
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:32,800
Speaker 2: good Bearcats. When they've played high major opponents so far

1729
01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 2: this season, they've either not won, or they've let games

1730
01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:40,520
Speaker 2: get away, or they've played large, non competitive stretches.

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01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 5: But when it was eleven and.

1732
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:46,120
Speaker 2: Nothing yesterday, yeah, I'll be honest with you.

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01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:47,800
Speaker 5: They fell behind twenty seven.

1734
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:50,439
Speaker 2: Late in the first turn, I thought that they were

1735
01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 2: going to lose the game by forty five points.

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01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:54,680
Speaker 3: I thought at one point the Bengals would outscore the

1737
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:55,920
Speaker 3: Bearcats yesterday.

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01:21:57,760 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:01,479
Speaker 3: We throw the phrase in sports around at times, men

1740
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:05,599
Speaker 3: versus boys. That's what it looked like yesterday. And Clemson's

1741
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:10,320
Speaker 3: a good team. They're not a top five Big twelve team.

1742
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 3: So I watched it in the lens of what's coming up.

1743
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 3: I watch and think, Okay, we're almost through a non

1744
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:20,799
Speaker 3: conference late, and it doesn't feel like there's any indication

1745
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 3: that that Wes Miller has a feel for what the

1746
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:25,599
Speaker 3: lineup should be. Kirk creesea didn't play in the second

1747
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 3: half yesterday. Seanna Bibe didn't play in what the last

1748
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 3: eleven minutes yesterday, didn't start the second half, Gigsel James

1749
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 3: played thirty minutes. Like it it feels like here we

1750
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:39,479
Speaker 3: are December twenty second, and it feels like they're just

1751
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:42,679
Speaker 3: starting the season and figure trying to figure out rotations.

1752
01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:46,679
Speaker 3: They don't play well off of each other, they said,

1753
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 3: like the first possession of the game was what shot

1754
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:53,840
Speaker 3: turnover by Kirk creer like out of timeouts they're not great,

1755
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 3: And I don't I don't fully understand it because I

1756
01:22:57,760 --> 01:23:00,960
Speaker 3: think there are some individual pieces that can play basketball,

1757
01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:04,559
Speaker 3: they just can't play as a unit, and the best

1758
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 3: teams in the country they do.

1759
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:06,920
Speaker 4: I text you.

1760
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:09,679
Speaker 3: Over the weekend, I watched the whole game between Texas

1761
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:14,960
Speaker 3: Tech and Duke. Texas Tech had seven players. Jacob Toppen

1762
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:18,599
Speaker 3: went out with three fouls. Texas Tech had their tallest

1763
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:21,439
Speaker 3: player was six to six. They had no front court

1764
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 3: healthy in the game. They beat Duke and overcame a

1765
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 3: seventeen point deficit. Houston toyed with Arkansas at times put

1766
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 3: up ninety plus points. Arizona's the best team in the country.

1767
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:36,479
Speaker 3: Iowa State has a road win at Purdue. The Big

1768
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:38,120
Speaker 3: Twelve is so good this year.

1769
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 2: But like, it's not even those teams, it's how are

1770
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 2: they going to beat TCU? Yeah, how are they going

1771
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:46,559
Speaker 2: to beat UCF Baylor, who's in the top twenty five

1772
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:47,760
Speaker 2: in offensive efficiency?

1773
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:48,240
Speaker 5: Ken Palm?

1774
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:51,840
Speaker 2: How are they going to beat Oklahoma State, who's eleven

1775
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 2: and one? Like, I mean, it's it's easy to look

1776
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:59,719
Speaker 2: at Arizona, Iowa State, Houston, BYU, those are top ten teams,

1777
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 2: is sixteenth and ten pum Texas Tech. You mentioned them

1778
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 2: beating Duke, forget those games. How are they going to

1779
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:10,639
Speaker 2: beat the middle of the pack teams in the Big

1780
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 2: twelve that we thought, or at least hope Cincinnati would

1781
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:13,840
Speaker 2: be lumped in with.

1782
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:16,559
Speaker 3: And I'm so over like, well, they played hard in

1783
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:19,240
Speaker 3: the second half. I don't care show up ready to play. Yeah,

1784
01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 3: I'm done. I can't do the moral victory stuff anymore.

1785
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 3: This is college basketball. It's the Big twelve, and I

1786
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:28,600
Speaker 3: don't know what the number is. I would expect that

1787
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:30,639
Speaker 3: they're competitive, and what they have spent on their roster,

1788
01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:36,760
Speaker 3: it's it is by all accounts. You add in the

1789
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:41,160
Speaker 3: crossdown shootout loss, you add in the non conference late

1790
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 3: the lost of Eastern Michigan, it's a disaster. It is

1791
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 3: an absolute disasse. And as you and I were die

1792
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:49,720
Speaker 3: hard Bearcat basketball fans, we're not even in January.

1793
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:54,840
Speaker 2: Well, best best best best best best best case in

1794
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:58,519
Speaker 2: conference play feels like nine to nine. That's fourteen losses.

1795
01:24:58,720 --> 01:24:58,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1796
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:01,599
Speaker 5: I asked you during the what would the over under

1797
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 5: be for Big twelve play? It feels like four and

1798
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 5: a half.

1799
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, And now like you do you pull the plug on?

1800
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 3: Kirk criesa Do you pull the plug on a five star?

1801
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 3: You know that second highest recruit? I don't know what

1802
01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:13,719
Speaker 3: the I don't know where they go at this point.

1803
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know.

1804
01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:21,880
Speaker 2: I know, Look, NCAA tournament or bust made it an

1805
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 2: absolute right, got to make the tournament or we're moving on.

1806
01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:29,720
Speaker 2: I think most of us believed that context was going

1807
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:32,880
Speaker 2: to have to be applied. But if this team finishes

1808
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:41,679
Speaker 2: with sixteen, seventeen, eighteen nineteen losses, you know, I mean

1809
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:45,320
Speaker 2: that that's the context that you use, or that you

1810
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 2: apply to a legitimate conversation about who the next head

1811
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 2: coach is going to be, because I would at that

1812
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:53,760
Speaker 2: point find it impossible to believe that it's going to

1813
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:54,320
Speaker 2: be West Miller.

1814
01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 3: And again, like at the very core, if there were

1815
01:25:56,920 --> 01:26:00,639
Speaker 3: signs of improvement, it would be one thing. We watched

1816
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 3: Zavier got beat as a favorite by forty one points

1817
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:05,559
Speaker 3: in their Big East opener, and then with the Georgetown

1818
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 3: of one yeah, bounce back yeah from an embarrassing home loss,

1819
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:11,600
Speaker 3: one on the road, and one yeah. You know, we

1820
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 3: talked about what Miami of Ohio has done, talked about

1821
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:16,120
Speaker 3: you want to talk about noise. Mark Pope is hearing

1822
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:18,920
Speaker 3: a lot of noise. They've turned it around, beat Indiana,

1823
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 3: beat a good Saint John's team, They're getting healthy. What

1824
01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 3: what Pat Kelsey has done in Louisville. We talked Darren

1825
01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:28,280
Speaker 3: Horan year in and year out at NKU, like this

1826
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:31,640
Speaker 3: is supposed to be a college basketball time of the

1827
01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 3: year coming up, and I'm dreading it, but you'redding Houston

1828
01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:37,720
Speaker 3: coming to Cincinnati, even like.

1829
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:39,599
Speaker 2: You compare it to a year ago. A year ago

1830
01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:41,599
Speaker 2: at this time, they were coming out of Big Twelve

1831
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 2: play with one loss, yeah, and they still didn't come

1832
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:46,880
Speaker 2: close to making it yep. And I think the Big

1833
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:50,600
Speaker 2: Twelve is better this year and this team is not

1834
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 2: as talented as last year's team yep. So it's I

1835
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:58,640
Speaker 2: I now wonder, like from a win loss record perspective,

1836
01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:00,400
Speaker 2: how bad could this get?

1837
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:01,000
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1838
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:03,200
Speaker 2: And I know right now all that matters for a

1839
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 2: lot of people is do they move on from Wes

1840
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:08,880
Speaker 2: Miller If it gets as bad as we suspect it's

1841
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:11,360
Speaker 2: going to get. I think that, unfortunately, is going to

1842
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:13,280
Speaker 2: take care of itself. And I hate that for Wes

1843
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 2: because I really really do like him. But I do wonder,

1844
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:21,040
Speaker 2: like Cincinnati basketball in the Big Twelve in a year

1845
01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 2: that was gonna be judged solely by is their name

1846
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 2: on the screen on Selection Sunday, And now we're wondering

1847
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:28,040
Speaker 2: could they finish with like two or three wins in

1848
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:31,160
Speaker 2: the Big Twelve. And you may think that's unfair, look

1849
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:34,439
Speaker 2: at that schedule and tell me where the winds plural

1850
01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:35,479
Speaker 2: are gonna come from.

1851
01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 3: Where are they gonna Where are they gonna We talked

1852
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 3: about the scheme wise, Where are they gonna sneak up

1853
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:42,800
Speaker 3: on anyone or out coach and just beat a better team.

1854
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 3: I don't know that they have that capability.

1855
01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:45,640
Speaker 4: You know.

1856
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:48,719
Speaker 3: I'm the same way. This is the hard part about

1857
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:51,200
Speaker 3: sports because I genuinely like Wes Miller and I think

1858
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:53,479
Speaker 3: he's a great guy. He's always been great to me.

1859
01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:57,320
Speaker 3: He texts, text me when when our youngest son was born,

1860
01:27:57,360 --> 01:27:59,360
Speaker 3: to congrad like assault of the earth.

1861
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:00,960
Speaker 4: Every time I see. Couldn't be nicer.

1862
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 3: It's the terrible part of the business, but it's the

1863
01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:05,320
Speaker 3: reality of the business.

1864
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:06,120
Speaker 4: You've got to win.

1865
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 3: And he's not doing it, and it doesn't feel like

1866
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 3: they're close to doing it, like this is a proud

1867
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:16,800
Speaker 3: basketball tradition at you see, and it is. It's being

1868
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:18,840
Speaker 3: drugged through the mud right now, not only because they're losing,

1869
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:20,720
Speaker 3: but the way in which they lose, Uh, the way

1870
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:24,519
Speaker 3: in which they play at times is not Cincinnati basketball

1871
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:27,040
Speaker 3: that I know what. The longer this goes on, the

1872
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 3: more we get away from that.

1873
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:30,400
Speaker 5: What's the identity of the program? Right five years in?

1874
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 2: And it's more difficult, admittedly to have an identity when

1875
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:36,200
Speaker 2: there's so much turnover a year after year after year

1876
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:36,680
Speaker 2: after year.

1877
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:39,120
Speaker 5: But what is the identity? What is the identity of

1878
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:39,639
Speaker 5: this team?

1879
01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:39,960
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1880
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:41,600
Speaker 5: What can you hang your hat on? I said this

1881
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:42,800
Speaker 5: on the air yesterday.

1882
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 2: Watching Clemson go through it's half court offense side by

1883
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:50,639
Speaker 2: side watching Cincinnati go through it's half court offense. It's

1884
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:54,160
Speaker 2: like two different sports. It's like two entirely different sports.

1885
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:56,160
Speaker 2: And you might go, Okay, well, we're not great in

1886
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:56,719
Speaker 2: the half court?

1887
01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:56,960
Speaker 7: Cool?

1888
01:28:57,120 --> 01:28:59,680
Speaker 2: Good in transition? Can you score off your defense? Are

1889
01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:02,920
Speaker 2: you great defensively? Are you an awesome rebounding team? Though

1890
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:05,960
Speaker 2: they were good on the glass yesterday? Do you limit turnovers?

1891
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:08,280
Speaker 2: Are you great at getting second chance points?

1892
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:10,599
Speaker 5: Like? What is Are you good at shooting free throws?

1893
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:13,519
Speaker 5: Which they're not? Like, what is it that you're supposed

1894
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:14,360
Speaker 5: to be good at?

1895
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:16,280
Speaker 3: And it's not like they didn't try. They went out

1896
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:18,920
Speaker 3: and got a GM from the Oklahoma City thunder Right.

1897
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 3: They have added different pieces in the portal. What I

1898
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:27,040
Speaker 3: think MOE is one of the bigger indictments on WES.

1899
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:28,920
Speaker 4: Look at the players that left.

1900
01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 3: I mean, Errington Page is like an All Big Ten

1901
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:36,000
Speaker 3: player right now at Northwestern. Dylan Mitchell starts for Saint

1902
01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 3: John's go up and down the list. Connor Hickman at

1903
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:42,960
Speaker 3: Charleston and what he's doing Dan Skilling, like, there are

1904
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:47,160
Speaker 3: so many players that couldn't get it done here that

1905
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:49,639
Speaker 3: are playing at a very high level somewhere else. Tyler Betsy,

1906
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:52,280
Speaker 3: it's playing great at Syracuse right now. Like that, to

1907
01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:55,519
Speaker 3: me is the biggest indictment. Guys come here all of

1908
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:57,760
Speaker 3: a sudden, they stop shooting well from the outside, they

1909
01:29:57,760 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 3: stopped making threes, they don't play good by a and

1910
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:01,880
Speaker 3: then when they leave here they get back to playing

1911
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:04,360
Speaker 3: good basketball. Where's the common denominator.

1912
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:12,200
Speaker 2: It's it's obvious, and I it kills me to an

1913
01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:15,920
Speaker 2: extent that I can barely describe the fact that it's

1914
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:21,200
Speaker 2: it's not even Christmas Day yet. Yep, they have if

1915
01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:23,639
Speaker 2: you count one game in the Big Twelve tournament, twenty

1916
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:28,559
Speaker 2: games remaining, and you're not even entertaining the possibility that

1917
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 2: they're going to finish with more wins than losses.

1918
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:34,920
Speaker 5: Right that's demoralizing. That's not how this is supposed to be.

1919
01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:41,040
Speaker 2: And again, in the second half yesterday they were better

1920
01:30:41,040 --> 01:30:43,040
Speaker 2: and Dayda Thomas made a bunch of threes and they

1921
01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:45,320
Speaker 2: climb back into the game. And but I'm with you,

1922
01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:47,439
Speaker 2: ton I think there are times where you can apply

1923
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:49,200
Speaker 2: the context to a loss and say there are some

1924
01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:52,400
Speaker 2: things to build upon here. We're way past that at

1925
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:55,000
Speaker 2: this stage in the program, at this stage in West's tenure,

1926
01:30:55,320 --> 01:31:00,320
Speaker 2: at this stage in the season. So unless the second

1927
01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 2: half comeback resulted in a victory, then what they did

1928
01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:06,080
Speaker 2: is largely empty. And I hate to say that.

1929
01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:07,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1930
01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:09,799
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor's press conference is next Tony and MO Football

1931
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1932
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1945
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1946
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1948
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1953
01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:11,400
Speaker 2: Final order of business here at a Twin Peaks in Florence,

1954
01:32:11,439 --> 01:32:13,920
Speaker 2: Tony and Moow football show, Zach Taylor meeting with the

1955
01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:19,479
Speaker 2: local professional football media. Here is his press conference from

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Speaker 2: just a short while ago at ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: Sports Station Times.

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Speaker 1: Zat Taylor press conference wrote to you in black by Wins,

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Speaker 1: Shooter's Cheese, Bread Brand Centers, kangaroof and by Bell Ta

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Speaker 1: Casino and Bell Tarra Park on ESPN fifteen thirty, the

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Speaker 1: official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 2: See prominent most that you guys can go on defense

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Speaker 2: next year.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think.

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Speaker 10: You know we've always wanted to be a relentless defense,

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Speaker 10: something where the effort flies off the tape and you

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Speaker 10: see guys forming the bowl. So I think those are

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Speaker 10: things when I watched the tape yesterday is you see

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Speaker 10: everyone in the picture, everyone after first contact, trying to

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Speaker 10: get in the mix, make sure the ball carry gets down.

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Speaker 10: They got the one run on us. That was a

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Speaker 10: big run, and you can't excuse that because we got

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Speaker 10: to get them on the ground. We had opportunities to

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Speaker 10: do it, could have knocked it down. We didn't. The

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Speaker 10: score touchdown, but you look at the mixture runs after that,

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Speaker 10: and they're tough. They scheme your runs up, they give

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Speaker 10: you a lot of different looks, a ton of different

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Speaker 10: personnel groupings. I thought our defense did a great job

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Speaker 10: getting that run game settled down and minimized toward in

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Speaker 10: the second half. You know, you got to make them

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Speaker 10: throw the football and we were able to get the

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Speaker 10: ball off of them that way. So just overall, really

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Speaker 10: impressed with the growth of our defense and how these

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Speaker 10: guys are responded. They understand the scheme. The communication has

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Speaker 10: been really good, and again you know, taking the ball

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Speaker 10: off the people, you know, so there's that confidence that's

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Speaker 10: scoring there as well, and so it's been fun to watch.

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Speaker 2: That's the line had a pretty good game yesterday in

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Speaker 2: terms of containing the run between the tackles.

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Speaker 10: Doing a great job playing with their hands, understanding the

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Speaker 10: techniques for asking them to play, and and so again

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Speaker 10: you're just seeing guys grow. A ton of guys grow.

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Speaker 10: Getting Shamar back was fun to watch yesterday. I thought

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Speaker 10: Cedric played a good game yesterday. Miles continues just to

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Speaker 10: just have a really good season right now with where

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Speaker 10: he's at. And so again it's just and there's guys

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Speaker 10: I'm not even naming, you know. I thought everybody played

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Speaker 10: really well yesterday. So just fun group to watch them

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Speaker 10: continue to grow and as send and that's all we're

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Speaker 10: asking for them right now is just get better every

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Speaker 10: single week and minimize your mistakes. And we're seeing that

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Speaker 10: from those guys.

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Speaker 11: Higgins said he saw specials uh to go what do

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Speaker 11: you see Thursday morning? Okay, and kind of what what

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Speaker 11: led to y'all come to that conclusion and saying, hey,

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Speaker 11: let's still have this shutdown and kind of walk us

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Speaker 11: through that process.

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Speaker 10: That was the doctors, you know, I think just making

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Speaker 10: sure uh tea in conjunction with our doctors, just making

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Speaker 10: sure you got that final checkpoint there to make sure

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Speaker 10: we were seeing everything and the clearance was appropriate. I

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Speaker 10: think with the two issues he's had, you know, that

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Speaker 10: was the appropriate way to do it.

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Speaker 4: And so getting out there quite really it was.

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Speaker 10: A bang bang Thursday morning, got out there, got back

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Speaker 10: before I wasn't expecting about practice, and there he is

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Speaker 10: walks in the door, you know, right after stretch. So

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Speaker 10: that was I think it's good for him to hear

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Speaker 10: that too. He could probably answer that better than I can,

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Speaker 10: but we just want to make sure we were doing

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Speaker 10: right by him. If he's going to go out there

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Speaker 10: and play that everybody feels good about it. He feels

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Speaker 10: good about it, family feels good about it. And he

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Speaker 10: went out there and to my eye, felt really good. Okay,

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Speaker 10: you know, I know Jay Morrison and his family are

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Speaker 10: dealing with something tough right now. Jays, as you all know,

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Speaker 10: one of the greatest guys in this business.

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Speaker 4: So awesome.

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Speaker 10: Prayers with him and his family, and I hate that

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Speaker 10: he's got to go through that, but I know we're

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Speaker 10: all here for him, So I just want to make

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Speaker 10: sure he knows that and his family does that.

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Speaker 1: This has been a Zach Taylor Breast conference on ESPN

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Speaker 1: fifteen thirty the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 2: There you go, Bengals head coach Zach Taylor meeting with

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Speaker 2: the professional football media. Very classy maneuver by Zach mentioning

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Speaker 2: Jay Morrison and the passing of his wife. We are

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Speaker 2: done here at Twin Peaks. We are at the Westchester

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Speaker 2: location next week. One and one left on the schedule. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: two more to go, one more in Westchester, one more

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Speaker 2: here in Florence.

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Speaker 5: You are off the rest of the week.

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Speaker 3: Well, I have a show on Christmas Morning. Well, that's right,

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Speaker 3: the Christmas Morning Show.

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Speaker 4: I forgot you and Lance and Austin.

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Speaker 2: I'll be wearing my pajamas yes on Christmas Morning. Beyond that,

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Speaker 2: Tony off the rest of the week. I am on

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Speaker 2: tomorrow after UK basketball at four point thirty ish at

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Speaker 2: a different establishment.

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Speaker 4: Nice.

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Speaker 2: Have a great night. Speaking of UK basketball, the Mark

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Speaker 2: Pope Show is next. This is Holiday Tony and Mo

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Speaker 2: Football Show. Thanks to Mike Mills for producing on site

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Speaker 2: and Aaron Bland for producing back in Kenwood. Have a

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Speaker 2: great night. This is ESPN fifteen thirty. Since that a

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Speaker 2: sports station.

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Speaker 8: Mm hmm,