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Speaker 1: It's Nightside with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.

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Speaker 2: We're going to continue our conversation from the nine o'clock

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Speaker 2: hour again. For those of you who are just joining us,

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Speaker 2: this is Nightside. My name is Dan Ray. I want

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Speaker 2: to thank Dan Watkins for the ten o'clock newscast. Rob

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Speaker 2: Brooks is back in the control room tonight setting up

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Speaker 2: your phone calls. There were a couple of phones were

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Speaker 2: ringing during the ten o'clock hour. Feel free to call

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Speaker 2: back right now if you like, we'll get you on.

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Speaker 2: We are talking about a decision and an announcement that was

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Speaker 2: made by Massachusetts Governor more Healey. She's a progressive Democrat

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Speaker 2: and to the surprise of many, announced support for lifting

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Speaker 2: a Sunday hunting band here in Massachusetts and also expanding

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Speaker 2: hunting access for those of you who are just joining us.

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Speaker 2: The Governor is going to file amendments in her upcoming

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Speaker 2: supplemental budget which would allow Sunday hunting. Massachusetts only one

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Speaker 2: of two states in the country with an outright band

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Speaker 2: on Sunday hunting alone. Wowing hunting on Sundays, according to

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Speaker 2: the Governor's office, during limited hunting seasons, will expand equitable

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Speaker 2: access to outdoor recreation, and provide mass wildlife with increased

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Speaker 2: ability to manage healthy wildlife populations. In addition, the governor

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Speaker 2: wants to allow crossbows for hunting. Now crossbows are an

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Speaker 2: extraordinarily powerful weapon. Massachusetts currently has the most restrictive crossbow

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Speaker 2: hunting laws in the Northeast and only allows their use

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Speaker 2: by hunters with a permanent disability. Crossbows are safe, effective,

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Speaker 2: and ethical hunting instruments, according to Diane Sullivan. When an

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Speaker 2: animal is struck by a crossbow, they can be an

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Speaker 2: incredible pain and they're generally in some cases able to escape,

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Speaker 2: but they are then walking around with a crossbow wound

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Speaker 2: and in many cases die in horrific pain. According to

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Speaker 2: the governor, crossbows are generally more accessible the traditional and

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Speaker 2: compound bows because they require less physical strength to use.

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Speaker 2: I remember many years ago where two guys were in

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Speaker 2: a jousting match in the highway. They pulled off into

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Speaker 2: a parking area. I guess to make it more personal,

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Speaker 2: one guy got out of the car, got a crossbow

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Speaker 2: out of his trunk, fired the crossbow at his opponent

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Speaker 2: whatever you want, or his the other motorists and killed him. Instantly.

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Speaker 2: It is a vicious weapon. Removing the band on crossbow

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Speaker 2: hunting will help Massachusetts reach wildlife management goals to provide

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Speaker 2: more equitable opportunities for all hunters woe, and then reduced

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Speaker 2: setback limitations for bow hunting. Massachusetts currently prohibits hunting within

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Speaker 2: five hundred feet of a dwelling except with permission. Reducing

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Speaker 2: the setback for bow hunting for two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: feet would bring Massachusetts loss into alignment with neighboring states

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Speaker 2: and could open up thousands of acres of leand to hunting,

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Speaker 2: especially in air is where wildlife populated populations are exceeding

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Speaker 2: management goals. So that's the issue of the hour, and

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Speaker 2: I'd love to get another hour out of this last hour.

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Speaker 2: The callers were split fifty to fifty. I want to

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Speaker 2: hear from you. Let me go first to Laura in

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Speaker 2: New Hampshire. Laura, we tried to get your last hour

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Speaker 2: before the break, but I think you had stepped away

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Speaker 2: from the phone. But we have you now. I hope

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Speaker 2: go right ahead. Laura.

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Speaker 3: Hi, Jan, how are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing just great. Thank you for being there. You're

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Speaker 2: next on Nightside'd love to know what you think of this.

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Speaker 2: You're up in New Hampshire.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and my husband's an avid hunter, and I prefer

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Speaker 3: crossbow because to me, it's more organic because you're not

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Speaker 3: a bullet from like a shotgun.

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Speaker 2: So let me ask you. Do you use a crossbow

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Speaker 2: as you or your husband use a crossbow hunting?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 3: He does bulls. He does muzzle muzzle hunting, which I

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Speaker 3: don't like because to me, I want some more organic,

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Speaker 3: which would be the crossbow. I don't want to eat

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Speaker 3: any deer. I cook venison all the time. I do

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Speaker 3: venison tacos steaks, and it's absolutely delicious, and it's more

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, again, it's a crossbow. How effective and how

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Speaker 2: efficient is a cross bowl? The only time that I've

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Speaker 2: ever heard of a crossbow was the argument must be Now?

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Speaker 2: Twenty five years ago Massachusetts highway. Two motorists got into

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Speaker 2: an argument. I just alluded to it. They pulled off

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Speaker 2: the road to continue their quote unquote conversation. Guy pulled

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Speaker 3: And yeah, you're talking about people versus venison.

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Speaker 3: Do you know how much work it is when you

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Speaker 4: My husband will have to walk.

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Speaker 3: Miles after he shoots that deer to go retrieve it.

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Speaker 3: Because it's like, like you said, it might be painful,

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Speaker 3: but you know what, they eventually fall. I mean, they're

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Speaker 3: I mean it's it's it's a work and your collar there,

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Speaker 3: who's the activist? Diane wasn't even touching base on the

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Speaker 3: road kill or the automobile's damage.

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Speaker 2: That is well right, First of all, my caller was

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Speaker 2: my guest professor, Diane Sullivan. And look, uh, I can

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Speaker 2: remember hitting a deer once many years ago on Martha's

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Speaker 2: but that's the sort of that was an accident. I

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Speaker 2: just don't I'm not a hunter, okay, so I'm not

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Speaker 2: going to go in the woods with a gun or

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Speaker 2: with a crossbow. But at the same time, it's great

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Speaker 2: to hear from people like yourself who represent a different

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Speaker 2: point of view on this one. Now you're in New Hampshire,

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Speaker 2: where hunting is allowed seven days a week, I assume correct.

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Speaker 3: Well, well, my husband hunts in New York. In New Hampshire, Okay,

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Speaker 3: it's very costly. You're not even touching base on the cost.

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Speaker 3: I mean the hunt in New York. It's one hundred

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Speaker 3: and fifty dollars. That means you can get a Joe,

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Speaker 3: which is a baby, and then you can get her

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Speaker 3: like you want to.

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Speaker 2: Why would you why would you want to kill a

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Speaker 3: Well, because it's it's like almost like feel, you know,

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Speaker 3: like we cow feel is the young is like the

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Speaker 3: baby cow. You know what I mean, your baby thief?

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Speaker 2: No, I understand that. But what I'm saying is there's

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Speaker 2: still a baby. I mean again, I guess I'm a little.

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Speaker 3: Believe me that we would never kill. I should say

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Speaker 3: I love them to pieces. My husband would never kill.

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Speaker 3: He's very picky about when he shoots. He's not going

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Speaker 3: to just shoot just to shoot. He picks randomly. Because

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Speaker 3: it's like I said, it's very costly to hunt, you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean, it's very expensive, and then you

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Speaker 3: have to butcher it, you know, I mean it's like

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of work, and I understand that people

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Speaker 2: grow up in the culture. I'm not, you know, criticizing it. Again,

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Speaker 2: Professor Sullivan is an animal rights activist.

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Speaker 5: I of course, yes, I am an.

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Speaker 2: Animal rights activist to the point that I would never

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Speaker 2: do that, and at the same time, I'm not necessarily

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Speaker 2: looking to prevent other people from doing it. But it

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Speaker 2: seems to me that if you can hunt animals here

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Speaker 2: in Massachusetts for six days a week during hunting season

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Speaker 2: Monday through Saturday, why don't you give them like one

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Speaker 2: day a piece and quiet. It's like, if I'm a

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Speaker 2: would like a day off.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I hear you on that. But I love like

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Speaker 3: these people who were like activists. I would love to

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Speaker 3: know if she is she began, is she eating chicken?

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Speaker 3: Is she eating what does she eat for food?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, No, I don't know. And I understand

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Speaker 2: the argument, and I understand. You know, I'm I'm a

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Speaker 2: meat eater, so believe me.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, but.

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Speaker 3: Total from a deer, I mean, this is how you

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Speaker 3: eliminate the population. They run, they're wild in a wildy

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Speaker 2: I understand that I have, Laura, I understand that, and

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm never gonna convince you, and I hope you

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Speaker 2: and your husband have are always safe. They're you know,

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Speaker 2: there there are a lot of stories you read in

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Speaker 2: the paper about hunting accidents. I'm sure it sounds to

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Speaker 2: me like you, Well, your husband is the hunter that

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Speaker 2: he takes it very seriously and he does it carefully. Laura,

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Speaker 2: I am passed my break. Have you called before? Is

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Speaker 2: it's your first time calling?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: I called before?

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Speaker 2: When I call any time?

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Speaker 3: President Trump? Call call we safe with UH with the

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Speaker 3: UH immigrants.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, call any time.

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Speaker 2: That's what this show is about. All points of view,

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Speaker 2: you know, and I you and I don't have to

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Speaker 2: agree on all everything. So call whether you agree or disagree.

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Speaker 2: And thank thanks so much for your call tonight. Thanks again,

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Speaker 2: I have a great night. Six one seven only line

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Speaker 2: Governor Healy has done to extend the hunting week to

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Speaker 2: seven days in Massachusetts. That's the legislation that she will

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Speaker 2: submit as part of a supplemental budget. We're getting into

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Speaker 2: the weeds when we talk about that, But it's more

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Speaker 2: the question of whether or not you're surprised Joe Venaki's

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Speaker 2: call him in the Boston Globe today. Also Joe Battenfeller.

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Speaker 2: I think I had to call him in the Herald

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Speaker 2: earlier this week. It is it is an interesting topic.

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Speaker 2: We've had a lot of interesting calls on both sides.

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Speaker 2: Feel free to join the conversation. We'll be right back

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Speaker 2: on night Side. My name is Dan Ray. You're listening

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Speaker 1: If you're on night Side with Dan Ray, I'm w

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Speaker 2: We're gonna keep rolling here. I'm gonna go to Chris

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Speaker 2: in Boxford, Massachusetts. Chris, you're next time Nightside. Welcome. Thank

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Speaker 2: you for your patience. Hi, Chris, so much this time calling,

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Speaker 2: first time calling. We get you rout of the claws

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Speaker 2: from our digital studio audience.

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Speaker 6: Go right ahead, Chris, Yes exactly.

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Speaker 4: I listened to you on a regular basis.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Oh Rob. She just must have Chris called back. Chris.

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Speaker 2: You must have had us on speakerphone and then you

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Speaker 2: went and you hit the wrong button. All you gotta do, Chris,

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Speaker 2: is call back the number you called six one seven six.

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Speaker 2: This happens all the time, Rob, call call, Please call back, Chris.

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Speaker 2: We want to hear from you. Six one, seven nine, three, one,

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Speaker 2: ten thirty. We got to start like copying down numbers

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Speaker 2: and calling people back six seven one, Chris, Well, first

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Speaker 2: time call. We want to make it. We want to

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Speaker 2: make it so you can complete that first time call

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Speaker 2: six seven nine, give us a call. Let me go

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Speaker 2: to I Leen in Cambridge. I leave your next nightside.

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Speaker 7: Go right ahead, Okay, Well, I'm calling because you've gotten

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Speaker 7: such a large response from hunters who feel, you know,

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Speaker 7: uh that I feel that I need to state my opposition.

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Speaker 7: I think hunting is cruel. I think it's old fashioned,

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Speaker 7: it's left over from the nineteenth century. Maybe and I

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Okay, Well, I Leen, thank you for your call.

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Speaker 2: As always, I appreciate your support of this program. You

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Speaker 7: Thanks a lot, Dan, all right, talk to you soon.

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Speaker 2: We do have christ and box. Chris, don't touch anything,

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Speaker 4: You did? You did. I'm so sorry because you are

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Speaker 2: But sure, well, just as they say, are you you're

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Speaker 4: Okay. So I just wanted to thank you so very much.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, And I think I think the deer needed

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Speaker 4: Making exactly, and and I think the point that I'm

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Speaker 5: There is a sport.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely nobody, nobody can go there, nobody can be there,

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Speaker 2: Probably not, because I think the tradition of hunting is

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Speaker 2: been interesting conversation and you're a first time call it, Chris.

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Speaker 5: Night and I do.

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Speaker 4: And I just love listening because you're so great on

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Speaker 2: To absolutely is I appreciate your kind words. We'll talk again.

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Speaker 2: I hope I'll look forward to call number two. Okay,

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Speaker 2: take care, Thank you, Chris, appreciate it all right. The

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Speaker 2: Coming back on night Side, we have the other line

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Speaker 2: six one seven nine three one ten thirty. And you

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Speaker 1: Side night Side with Dan Ray, I'm telling you Besy

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Speaker 1: Boston's News Radio, let.

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Speaker 2: Us get back to the call is going to go

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Speaker 2: to Mary and Lynn. Mary appreciate your patience. You are up.

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Speaker 6: Go right ahead, Mary Side, did you mean May May.

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Speaker 6: Yes, how could you forget my voice?

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Speaker 8: Dann?

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Speaker 6: You know what you were on vacation, That's what happened.

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Speaker 2: So this is your first time calling Dan ray or nights,

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Speaker 6: I will always take it standing out always always. But

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Speaker 6: of all, what the heck is really all over the place?

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Speaker 6: Was greted archery. I really am, And you don't do that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, jeez, Louise, Yeah, I agree with you.

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Speaker 2: So we don't we don't, we don't get involved with

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Speaker 6: Able to bring my Chloe to Kitty if she's penned

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Speaker 6: up in her in her little cat carrier? If what

437
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Speaker 6: if I wanted to bring my Chloe Chloe to Kitty. Yes,

438
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Speaker 6: if she's penned up in her cat area, because.

439
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Speaker 2: I mean, you would make sure that your your cat

440
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 2: would be in a cage or whatever, you know, so

441
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 2: that the cat wouldn't get attacked. But yeah, no, people

442
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 2: bring their pets and they also come and they they

443
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Speaker 2: watch the state police have some uh canine activities to

444
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Speaker 2: show you know this.

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Speaker 6: She may learn from that.

446
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, if you just go to the Massachusetts School

447
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Speaker 2: of web Page you can get all of the information.

448
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Speaker 6: And I was yes, but I just want to say,

449
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 6: unbelieve how heally is is jumping around mc gammit. Where

450
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 6: will she land? Before it was eighty us and you

451
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 6: know housing, Yeah, thinking she's going to be you know

452
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 6: that full liberal? What you know? The sanctuary cities go crazy?

453
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 6: And now you're ready to shoot deer in our backyard?

454
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 6: Maybe can I can I kill the raccoons?

455
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

456
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Speaker 6: I'm not sure yet.

457
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Speaker 2: We'll find out. May. I hate to do this, but

458
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Speaker 2: I gotta jump on here because I got.

459
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Speaker 5: To get you. You're always a pleasure.

460
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Speaker 2: Again. Thanks May, we'll talk again. Maybe I'll see you

461
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Speaker 2: on the fourth. Please if I if I do get

462
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 2: there and you're there, come up and say hello. Okay,

463
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 2: thanks so much.

464
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Speaker 6: I will Dan, I will Dan take care of bye.

465
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Speaker 2: Bye, good night. Let me go to Claire in Pennsylvania.

466
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Speaker 2: First time I think out of New England tonight, going

467
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Speaker 2: up Claire in Pennsylvania. Hi, Claire, how are you?

468
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Speaker 8: I'm fine? Dan?

469
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Speaker 2: How are you excellent? Excellent? What's your what's your take

470
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Speaker 2: on this.

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Speaker 8: Claire, Well, I don't like Sunday hunting for a lot

472
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Speaker 8: of reasons, but I would like to try to make

473
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Speaker 8: a couple of quick points about hunting in Pennsylvania. Deer

474
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 8: caused so much crop damage that it's unbelievable if you

475
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 8: don't see If you go buy a cornfield and you

476
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 8: see fifty deer in that cornfield, you can imagine how

477
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 8: much damage they do to that farmer's crops.

478
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 2: Yep, and.

479
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Speaker 8: The deer are overpopulated right now, and it causes disease

480
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Speaker 8: among the deer. And another thing some of the callers

481
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Speaker 8: I don't think understand. Baby fawns are born in the spring.

482
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Speaker 8: Deer season is in the fall or early winter. The

483
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Speaker 8: fawns are no longer dependent on their mothers. They're growing

484
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Speaker 8: up by then.

485
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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, they're still very young. I mean, you know, again,

486
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Speaker 2: I don't know as much about deer as I'm sure

487
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Speaker 2: you do. You know, because you've you've convinced me that

488
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Speaker 2: that you live in a part of Pennsylvania where you

489
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 2: probably coexist with the deer very well. And the whole

490
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 2: issue tonight is I Professor Sullivan is very much opposed

491
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Speaker 2: to any sort of hunting any sentient sentient, sentient animals

492
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 2: or sentient beings, that should be the way to describe them.

493
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Speaker 2: But the question is does the hunting have to be

494
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Speaker 2: seven days a week during the hunting season. And that's

495
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Speaker 2: what our governor has just proposed, and from coming from

496
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Speaker 2: her is kind of surprising because she's a fairly progressive Democrat. Normally,

497
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Speaker 2: the Democrats, in their relationship with you know, hunting in

498
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: the Second Amendment are is generally tend not to be

499
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Speaker 2: as supportive as she seems to be on this issue.

500
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Speaker 2: I'm trying to put it as nicely as I can.

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Speaker 8: Well, in Pennsylvania, they started, i think four years ago

502
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Speaker 8: or five years ago, they started allowing Sunday hunting for

503
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Speaker 8: four Sundays during the year. Yeah, and they assigned to Sundays.

504
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Speaker 8: This year, they're going to allow Sunday and hunting every

505
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Speaker 8: Sunday during during the seasons.

506
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Speaker 2: That's that's what That's what we're catching up with you

507
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Speaker 2: in that regard.

508
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Speaker 8: I don't like Sunday hunting for a lot of reasons,

509
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Speaker 8: but you know, I don't I don't expect to ever

510
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 8: change anybody's mind about hunting or not hunting. That's I

511
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 8: agree with you.

512
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Speaker 2: You're a wise man. Yep.

513
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Speaker 8: That's not something I try to do or expect to do.

514
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 8: But I just wanted to try to point out a

515
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Speaker 8: couple of things about why hunting is necessary in some ways.

516
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Speaker 2: No, I appreciate that, And there have been other callers

517
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 2: who have agreed with you, others who have not. And

518
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 2: it's been a really interesting two hours. I've learned a lot,

519
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 2: which to me is part of the good part about

520
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 2: my job. I get to learn from other people as well.

521
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 2: They might learn from me on a couple of things,

522
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 2: but I can learn from them as well. Claire, I

523
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 2: know you've called before. Your name is familiar, and I

524
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 2: appreciate you listening to us down there in Pennsylvania. Call

525
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Speaker 2: any night.

526
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 8: I listened to you most every night.

527
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Speaker 2: Thanks, Claire. I appreciate it very much. What town do

528
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 2: you went down there?

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Speaker 8: If I could ask, well, the closest town that anybody

530
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 8: would recognize would be probably Why Loosing, And I doubt

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Speaker 8: if anybody up there would recognize that.

532
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Speaker 2: Okay, you're out in the country. That's good. It's good

533
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 2: to know. I've listened as in Pittsburgh and in Philadelphia

534
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 2: and in Harrisburg. And I always love to know where

535
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Speaker 2: people call them from, so I thank you for calling.

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00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 8: If you do all triangle from from Scranton to Binghamton

537
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 8: to where I live, I would be on the west

538
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 8: quest end of that triangle. Okay, so it's belt distance.

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00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 2: What's that over towards Erie? Are you over towards Erie, Pennsylvania?

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Speaker 8: No? No, no, no, no, I'm a lot, a lot

541
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Speaker 8: closer than that. I'm about sixty miles from Scranton and

542
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 8: about about forty miles from Binghamton.

543
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know where Binghamton has. I've been to Binghamton.

544
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 2: Thanks Claire. I got to run because they got to

545
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Speaker 2: get a couple more calls in here before and and

546
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 2: a quick commercial break. Thank you, my friend. We'll talk soon.

547
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Speaker 8: Thank you, boll bye, good good night.

548
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 2: Coming back on night Side, I got Florence and Steve

549
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 2: coming up, and we can get a couple more and

550
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 2: if you want to try, we'll be back on Nightside

551
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 2: right after this.

552
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Boston's News Radio.

553
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna get everybody in if we can.

554
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 2: Let me go first, stuff too, Florence and grovelin. Hey Florence,

555
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 2: welcome back.

556
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Speaker 9: Hi Dan, Dan, I never liked hunting at all, all right,

557
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 9: all right, and I want to tell you in the

558
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 9: hunting listeners that are called in, there is nothing more,

559
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 9: nothing more delightful than sitting in the summertime on your

560
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 9: front door step and seeing a mother deer into her baby,

561
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 9: come out of your yard, cross the road over ring

562
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 9: to your neighbors. Yep, it's beautiful, beautiful sight.

563
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 2: I loved it. And as I say, we've had some

564
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 2: interesting viewpoints tonight on this issue, and it's it's amazing

565
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 2: how different people feel about issue, and how many people

566
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 2: feel very strongly about the issue one way or the other.

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00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 9: Yes, dear, are beautiful, and you know there is no

568
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 9: real good enough freeze to kill them, all right.

569
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Speaker 2: All right, well, well said, thank.

570
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 9: You don't need them, all right, all right.

571
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 2: Well, thank you for for your for your direct comments.

572
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 2: That's very helpful. I got you in later, and I

573
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 2: got two behind you, so I got to make room

574
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 2: for a couple more. But thanks so much for calling.

575
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 2: I hope your daughter's doing well. Okay, please keep she is, she.

576
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Speaker 9: Is, Thank you, good, Thank.

577
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 6: You very welcome.

578
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 9: All right, Thanks, okay, good night, good night, Let me go.

579
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 2: Next to Steven Addamborough. Steve, you are next on nights.

580
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 2: I want to get you on one more in here, Steve,

581
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 2: go right ahead.

582
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 5: Yes, I'm going to try and be quick and I'm

583
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 5: gonna make some points. First of all, I'm going to

584
00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 5: be completely opposite the pity uh the person who dressed

585
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:07,760
Speaker 5: In Massachusetts. Right now, we are running thirty to fifty

586
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 5: deer per square mile, which is three to four times

587
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 5: the healthy population, which is what they're going to end

588
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,959
Speaker 5: up with. Disease and all start because there's not enough

589
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 5: food for all of them.

590
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 2: Okay.

591
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 5: Point two crossbows in Massachusetts mainly are only four people

592
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 5: who don't have the strength to draw back on a

593
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 5: compound bow or a long bow.

594
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you understand that, And you know that's one of

595
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 2: the points the governor was making. The question is should

596
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 2: people who lack that physical shape strength be using a

597
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 2: weapon of that uh strength and power?

598
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 5: Okay. And lastly, this is also very political because what

599
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 5: she's trying to do is kind of garner support for

600
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 5: her Emergency Bill Act when she signed one thirty five

601
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 5: into law.

602
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not sure what thirty five is, and I

603
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 2: really probably will have to save that for another night.

604
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 5: But you guess telling you quickly that was the gun

605
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 5: and Bill all inclusive, that basically was supposed to go

606
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 5: to a vote of the population, and rather than go

607
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 5: to the vote of the population because we had garnered

608
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Speaker 5: all the signatures that we needed.

609
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 2: I know what you're talking about.

610
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Speaker 5: Yet true she signed it as it was the first

611
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 5: time at ever Halfton, Massachusetts, and so yes, this is

612
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 5: completely political.

613
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 2: All right, sir, Steve, Thank you, I got you in.

614
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 2: I owe you more time next time you call, but

615
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 2: I got one more I'd like to accommodate as well. Okay,

616
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,919
Speaker 2: thank you very much, Thank you much. Get as quick

617
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 2: as you were. Thank you, Ralph and Yarmouth. Ralph's going

618
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Speaker 2: to wrap the hour for us, Go right ahead, okay, Dan.

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Speaker 10: My last qull was I think in twenty ten you

620
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 10: were talking to James Roosevelt, head of a big healthcare company,

621
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 10: and the topic was also that Obama done very poorly

622
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 10: in the by elections. And I don't remember I remember it. Well,

623
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 10: you may not, but that a.

624
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 2: Lot of the conversation and I remember I remember all that.

625
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 2: But I want to know what you think about Governor Heally's.

626
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Speaker 10: Well today, Yeah, I'm going to move to that. I

627
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 10: can't understand what Healey is doing because she's running as

628
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 10: though she were in a tight race and she might

629
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Speaker 10: lose if she doesn't get the Hunter's vote. I mean,

630
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 10: she's popping up everywhere campaigning. This seems like a bizarre

631
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:57,760
Speaker 10: topic for her to get.

632
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 2: In and looking down the road, and she may see

633
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 2: the Democratic Party trying to get back to us to

634
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 2: the center, and she might think she I'd be a

635
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 2: great vice presidential candidate.

636
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 10: Well, you probably you could be right on that speculating.

637
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 10: I mean, Massachusetts hasn't had a president since Kennedy, I

638
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 10: don't think, and we've.

639
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 2: Had a lot of We've had a lot of presidential aspirants,

640
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: whether the US whatever. Does this the impact you vote

641
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 2: for her? For her or against her in November?

642
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 10: For this election, this would be against her. But the

643
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 10: trouble is, I don't really know who who the other

644
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 10: candidates are. You know, their familiar faces, some of them

645
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 10: in the Republican Party.

646
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 2: You keep listening. We had we had a round table

647
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 2: conversation last Wednesday with Brian Shortsleeve and Mike Kneely.

648
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Speaker 10: I did hear that one, Yes, I enjoyed that one.

649
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 10: That was a good effort on your part to get

650
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 10: the other candidates out there a little bit so people

651
00:38:58,160 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 10: knew who they are.

652
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, over time, the only Republican chose not to participate,

653
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Speaker 2: this fellow Mike Minogue. And I think he made a

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Speaker 2: mistake by not doing that. But we'll sayry right, simple

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Speaker 2: as Ralph, I'm up against my break. I wanted to

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Speaker 2: get you in because we're going to change topics on

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Speaker 2: the other side of the news. But do me a favor.

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Speaker 2: That's sixteen years since your last call. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if I'm going to be here sixteen years from now, Ralph.

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Speaker 10: I'll call frequent more. I enjoy I remember that great discussion.

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Speaker 10: I had a question for mister Roosevelt about healthcare, and

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Speaker 10: then we branched.

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Speaker 2: Over to the But we'll get it back again and

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Speaker 2: maybe you can call him as well. But I'm my

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Speaker 2: producers in my ear. We're in the eleven o'clock news already,

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Speaker 2: so you and I got to jump off, but call

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Speaker 2: back and we'll get well, have.

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Speaker 10: A long conversation.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, ralf appreciate it. Have a good one. Here

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Speaker 2: comes the news at the top of the hour, and

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Speaker 2: we come back, going to talk about iron,