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Speaker 1: Six, nineteen seven hundred WLWRNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by

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Speaker 1: Kelsey Chevrolet. I'm Lance McCallister. My first guest has been

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Speaker 1: all over Bengals slash NFL combine stuff this week, covering

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Speaker 1: the Bengals of course for clnssincywthey dot com, host of

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Speaker 1: the Jungle Roar podcast on YouTube. It's only fitting that

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Speaker 1: it's a Thursday at six twenty because that's his regular

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Speaker 1: slot during a roundtable season for us to check in

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Speaker 1: with the man they call Trags, Mike Petrolia Trags. How

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Speaker 1: are we doing.

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Speaker 2: It is?

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Speaker 3: It's a familiar spot for me to be on with

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Speaker 3: you talking Bengals and NFL.

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Speaker 2: Lance.

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Speaker 3: I will tell you this, it was sort of like

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Speaker 3: getting back on the treadmill today, but not at three

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Speaker 3: point two. It was more like getting on the treadmill

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Speaker 3: at about four point.

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Speaker 2: Nine or five point zero. Yes, it felt that way anyway. Yes,

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Speaker 2: let's start here.

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Speaker 1: Of all the things that were said, Of all the

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Speaker 1: things Duke said, is there something in particular that stood

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Speaker 1: out that caught your ear more than other things?

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Speaker 4: He said, the Bengals are going to do everything possible

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Speaker 4: to rebuild their defense, and I think he knows that

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Speaker 4: they're going to probably have to move on from Trey Hendrickson,

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Speaker 4: though he most certainly did not admit that.

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Speaker 3: Read between the lines, and that's kind of what we're.

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Speaker 2: Paid to do.

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Speaker 3: I think the Bengals are moving on from Trey Hendrickson

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Speaker 3: and it's probably the right thing to do. Maybe the

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Speaker 3: Bengals tag and trade him by the deadline next Tuesday

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Speaker 3: afternoon at four o'clock Eastern. I doubt it, but that

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Speaker 3: could happen and they pull off a trade. But I

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Speaker 3: do not see Trey Hendrickson and Bengals stripes next year.

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Speaker 3: With that being said, Duke Cobin indicated that they are

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Speaker 3: going to look for the type of player that can

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Speaker 3: play multiple positions, and a couple of things were hammered

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Speaker 3: down or are really hammered to us as media this

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Speaker 3: week in Indianapolis. They're looking for players who have multiple

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Speaker 3: force factors, who force multipliers, I'm sorry, force multipliers, and

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Speaker 3: they're looking for players.

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Speaker 2: With very high FBI and leadership.

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Speaker 3: FBI is simply football intelligence, so force multipliers and FBI.

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Speaker 3: What the force multipliers means is come in play a

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Speaker 3: single position, but have an impact on the entire defense

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Speaker 3: and I think that's a good way to look at it.

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Speaker 3: The Bengals quite frankly, didn't have a lot of those

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Speaker 3: players last year, and you can't ask rookies all the

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Speaker 3: time in lower rounds to be that. I think with

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Speaker 3: a top ten player, perhaps you can ask that whoever

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Speaker 3: that might wind up being, But certainly you can ask

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Speaker 3: that of free agents. And I think the Bengals are

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Speaker 3: going to target one to two premium defensive free agents

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Speaker 3: to really help bolster the middle of the defense, either

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Speaker 3: free safety or defensive tackle.

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Speaker 1: Triggs, do you take it that they believe in Jordan

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Speaker 1: Battle and would like to pair him with a veteran

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Speaker 1: safety on the back end.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly the way I read it.

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Speaker 3: Boy, oh boy, have they been pushing the Jordan Battle

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Speaker 3: stock up and up and up. And I think you know,

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Speaker 3: there are a couple of things that play here. First

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Speaker 3: of all, they want to build up Jordan Battle to think,

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Speaker 3: we believe in you, and not only we believe in you,

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Speaker 3: we expect you to be a leader. We expect you

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Speaker 3: to be the communicator and the leader you were.

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Speaker 2: For Nick Saban and Alabama.

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Speaker 3: That's to me what the last couple of weeks have

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Speaker 3: been whenever anybody has asked about Jordan.

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Speaker 2: That has been it. And they know the stats.

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Speaker 3: They know he had twenty one misstackles this year, number

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Speaker 3: three in the NFL. They know that there was that

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Speaker 3: moment against the Bears when he failed to bring Colston

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Speaker 3: in the final fifty seconds to beat the Bengals. They

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Speaker 3: know all of that, and they know it was a

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Speaker 3: really uneven season for Jordan Battle. I think they're trying

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Speaker 3: island back there in the Bengals defense. All of that

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Speaker 3: being said, they believe that Jordan Battle can be a

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Speaker 3: captain of that defense, and they believe that he is

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Speaker 3: a terrific communicator in the back end of the defense.

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Speaker 1: Traig shouldn't shouldn't somebody like Dalton Reisner? Shouldn't that be

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Speaker 1: an easy putt instead of making it like a tough

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Speaker 1: so you know what you're working with going forward.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Lance, And.

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Speaker 3: That is one of the things that I think drives

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Speaker 3: Bengal fans nuts. They have a demonstrated veteran offensive guard,

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Speaker 3: something that they have lacked over the course of Joe

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Speaker 3: Burrow's time here in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: Well, now you have the chance.

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Speaker 3: To have Dylan Fairchild on one side Dalton Riisner on

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Speaker 2: Get it done. Yes, you want to have.

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Speaker 3: As much money possible to attack free agency on the

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Speaker 2: But this is no brainer to me.

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Speaker 3: And after last season, I think a lot of Bengal

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Speaker 3: fans are rightfully nervous that they're not going to get

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Speaker 3: and you know that they're going to have to play

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Speaker 3: all of these different combinations in training camp. I will

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Speaker 3: say this, if they don't get it done before free agency,

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Speaker 3: he's probably gone because there are enough other teams. I

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Speaker 3: think he put on films, some very good tape this year,

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Speaker 3: very good, some very good reps that I think he

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Speaker 2: That being said, I.

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Speaker 3: Think Dalton Reisner wants to come back to Cincinnati, and

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Speaker 3: at this point, if you're the Bengals, unless there's something

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Speaker 3: we don't know about Dalton Reisner's medical history or his background,

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Speaker 3: get it done.

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Speaker 1: We know, the two rookie linebackers certainly took their lumps,

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Speaker 1: and then the learning curve was stepid times last season.

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Speaker 1: Do you get a sense that a veteran linebacker would

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Speaker 1: be added to the mix in a perfect world.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 3: Oran Berks was a terrific backup linebacker who actually started

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Speaker 3: to Super Bowl forty nine. He started super Bowl forty

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Speaker 3: nine and played quite well. I think the fallback position

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Speaker 3: is somebody like an Oran Berks or In Burks, but

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Speaker 3: I think ideally they would like to bring him again,

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Speaker 3: another young force multiplier, somebody who can play the edge

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Speaker 3: and arvel reethe or sunny styles.

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Speaker 2: If either one of them is there and Caleb Downs.

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Speaker 3: Is not, do not be surprised to see the Bengals

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Speaker 3: take one of those one of those players.

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Speaker 2: Though.

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Speaker 3: I don't think our Belle is going to be around

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Speaker 3: at number ten.

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure of that.

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Speaker 1: Actually, Trags, if you had a scale in front of

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Speaker 1: you in a stack of money, would you put it

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Speaker 1: on the side of the scale that is getting a

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Speaker 1: trade done for Trey or would you put the money

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Speaker 1: on the side that says he just ultimately walks away.

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Speaker 3: Ultimately walks away because I think a lot of other

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Speaker 3: teams are like, wait and see on Trey, They're not

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Speaker 3: going to mortgage a lot. I think if the Bengals

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Speaker 3: we're going to have traded him, it should have been

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Speaker 3: last year when things were kind of going sideways and

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Speaker 3: they had their chance to get a third rounder and

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Speaker 3: they couldn't do it. And now they're just kind of

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Speaker 3: left holding the bag with not a lot of leverage.

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Speaker 3: So I'm going to say that the most common, most

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Speaker 3: they just let them walk.

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Speaker 1: You you have been all over this all week. For

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Speaker 1: those who are catching up and want to read, want

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Speaker 1: to watch, want to follow along, please tell them how

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Speaker 1: they can do that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, celn s Sinc.

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Speaker 3: With a y dot com have a couple of columns

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Speaker 3: up there right now, one on Al Golden and what

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Speaker 3: a rebuilt Bengals defense looks like next year around Jordan

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Speaker 3: Battle uh and also some bullet points from Duke Tobin's

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Speaker 3: conversation back on Tuesday, some highlights from that as well. Also,

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Speaker 3: you can follow me and the Jungle Ward podcast at

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Speaker 3: YouTube dot com slash at Jungle war Pod and it's

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Speaker 3: always on the XA.

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Speaker 2: Trags t r ags.

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Speaker 1: Final question, We're able to take in Saint Elmo's when

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Speaker 1: you were in Indianapolis or not?

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 3: I was asked that earlier this afternoon on a Columbus

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Speaker 3: station and I so. The answer is no, But I

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Speaker 3: went next door to Harry and Isy's. Oh, people around

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Speaker 3: here certainly are familiar with both of those fine dining establishments.

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Speaker 3: Did you know that Harry and Izzy's shrimp, the world

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Speaker 3: famous shrimp from Saint Elmos is what they serve and

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Speaker 3: Harry and Isy's.

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Speaker 2: I did not.

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Speaker 3: Harry and i Isy's menu and it says Saint Elmo's

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Speaker 3: world whatever almost world famous shrimp.

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Speaker 2: That's what I had for dinner last how about that?

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad, I asked, thank you, sir. I know it's

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Speaker 1: been a busy week. I appreciate you're making.

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Speaker 2: Time any time. Take care? All right, there you go, Trags.

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Speaker 1: Mike Petraus c l N S since he with a

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