1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: H M, welcome back. I'm here with Sarah Geiger Beam, 2 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 1: Jennifer Smith, both from Wimburg Landscaping, and Heather Augustine from 3 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: since Ea Steak. And we're gonna we're realizing we're gonna 4 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: have to fly through these faster if we're gonna get done. 5 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: Uh so we are going to wrap up on our 6 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: favorite trees for beauty and ecological function and scoot on 7 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: over to shrubs. So I think, Jennifer, you're next, right, 8 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: not yet, not yet. No, we're gonna finish with the trees. 9 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I made the least and it's going 10 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: to get used, that's right. 11 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 3: You said, and I quote you have homework to do 12 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 3: before this program. 13 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean it gets used. But yeah, but yeah, 14 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: well stretch. 15 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 2: So I picked one. 16 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 3: This is kind of a joke o the larch, just 17 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 3: because if you watched Muney Python Flying Circus, there is 18 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 3: one of those skits and they said the larch, which 19 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 3: for some reason just cracked me up. 20 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: And they have one and row arboretum. 21 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: Yeah they're larch. Yeah, they're interesting trees. They're deciduous, evergreen. Yeah. 22 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 3: And the needles kind of like a little paint brushes. 23 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 3: It is a host plant, but it's not going to 24 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 3: be something that most people are going to use, So 25 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,919 Speaker 3: I just it's it's humorous, it's fun, and it's. 26 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: Kind of quirky, very particular to where it's happy, which 27 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: is what are located. 28 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 3: More realistic for people listening is if you have a 29 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 3: small yard and you want something that has just a 30 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 3: little bit of garish color. The red bud, oh, I mean, 31 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 3: you really just can't go wrong with those blooms. I 32 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 3: had one at a park that I used to take 33 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 3: care of a long time ago, and I could hear 34 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 3: the bumblebees on it before I got to it, So 35 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 3: I mean that alone. 36 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 4: And that's another one with the timing. 37 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 3: It's it's it's so yeah, and the native bees could 38 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 3: forage earlier than the honey bees, so the bumble bees 39 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 3: she's using that it's not too big, it's easy to prune. 40 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 3: It's like pruning a shrub. You're not hacking off giant limbs, 41 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 3: so you can't screw it up. 42 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,239 Speaker 1: And now with all the cultivars, there's every leaf color, 43 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 1: every shape of different flower colors, so you you can 44 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: find one that you like for sure. 45 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 3: And if you just if you're a plant to hal 46 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 3: look like we are, and you just need one more plant. 47 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 2: We'll find a room for her. You know, there's you 48 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 2: can always fit. 49 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: And don't forget the seeds are very nutritious for lots 50 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: of different animals. 51 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 4: That yeah, and it's a host plant for at least 52 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 4: one it is. 53 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely, Yeah, a couple of butterflies. 54 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: What's your next plant, Sarah? 55 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 4: I put pine trees. 56 00:02:58,560 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: Pine trees. 57 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 4: White pines are the only ones native to this area, 58 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 4: and you know, I love them. 59 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: There's good pines for every part of the country. 60 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're pretty widely used. You know, they're not They 61 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 4: can drop limbs and debris and everything, and not everybody 62 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 4: likes them, but I love them. I have them in 63 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 4: my new in my new place, on both sides of 64 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 4: the tree line. And just anything that is evergreen that 65 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 4: gets that tall is going to be fantastic habitat. I've 66 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 4: seen there's a red shoulder talk that lives on my 67 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 4: property and it purchase in it and just that evergreen. 68 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 4: And as far as beauty goes, I really really like 69 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 4: pines especially. I like to put them on the west 70 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 4: side of a property so they can be backlit for 71 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 4: for clients to enjoy it. 72 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: There's the sound of the wind. 73 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 4: There's the sound of the wind, and then they you know, 74 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 4: pine nuts are a really important food source wildlife. 75 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: Okay, my next one's gonna probably surprise a lot of people, 76 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: but Eastern red ceedar all right. Ecologically, it's you know, 77 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: it's evergreen, it's habitat incredibly tough, incredibly tough and adaptable. 78 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: And that's why it might surprise some people's it's a 79 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: roadside worst compacted cut out soil uh tree. But the 80 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 1: berries are super technically cones, but they look and for 81 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: all intents and purposes, they serve as a berry that 82 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: a lot of wildlife really enjoys. Can break the wind 83 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: a little. Wait, that's a good way to say. It's 84 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: a wind break. 85 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 5: It's a wind break, and it can be beautiful in 86 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 5: habit well. 87 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: That's the thing, beautiful. Yeah, And there's variable variable. There's 88 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: cultivars out there that are are really good. There's gray 89 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: out which there's a shrub. There's tailor, which is tall 90 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: and narrow and upright, candart which just has kind of 91 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: almost an oriental feel to it with a very horizontal branching, 92 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: and and great berry productions so that's a good one. 93 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to bail on it real quick because we're 94 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: we are we are working for time. 95 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 5: Here, Heather, I have I'm apped my last tree. Are 96 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 5: we doing trees? We're moving on to shrubs, finish trees, 97 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 5: So I'll do this one really quick. And again I 98 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 5: think it's one most we'll agree with service berry, and 99 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 5: that can also be considered to be a large shrub 100 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 5: depending on the type that you purchase and plant. This 101 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 5: is a true four season interest tree as well. It 102 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 5: does have early flowers for pollinators, delicious little berries that 103 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 5: I love that usually the birds beat me to them, 104 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 5: gorgeous fall color, smooth gray bark, and it does also 105 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 5: support several caterpillar species, including the easter tiger, swallowtail, the 106 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 5: viceroy and so again, just a really great smaller tree 107 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 5: for your landscape. 108 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: Everybody likes a good service berry. Yeah yeah, Jennifer, what's 109 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: your next tree? 110 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 2: You took mine? So should I move on to a shrub? 111 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 6: Then? 112 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 5: No, no, sip. 113 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 4: I am also out of trees because. 114 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 5: I had willow were already at shrubs. 115 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: Then I'll finish out. I guess do you have one more, Heather? Okay, 116 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: I'll finish out with sweep a magnolia the same a 117 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: lot of the same reasons for the umbrella magnoia, but 118 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: semi evergreen. Some of them are actually evergreen. The fruit 119 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: for the birds and mammals. That that's good, very pretty adaptable. 120 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: Supports a lot of pollinators, including the pollinating beetles and 121 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: flies and moths and bees. It actually is a host 122 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: plan for again the tiger swallowtail, a spice bush swallowtail, 123 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: which I did not know and Palamedes swallowtail, which I've 124 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: never heard of before, so that might not be one 125 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: native to us. But the beauty, the flowers are beautiful, 126 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:47,799 Speaker 1: little cup shaped, creamy colored magnolia flowers. Fragrance is lemony, 127 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: the form is up tends to we can be all over. 128 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: There's shrubby ones and then there's sort of the taller, 129 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: upright ones that work great against the house. I think 130 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: that's one of the few that works really good against house. 131 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 1: And I love the fall color again, it's that very 132 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:07,799 Speaker 1: it's yellow, it's brown, it's gold color. It just works, 133 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: so I love it. And I think that wraps us 134 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: up on trees, right. 135 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, we're moving on to shrubs. 136 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what. 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Blackjack protecting driveways for over 175 00:09:35,040 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 7: one hundred years. 176 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: And welcome back, and we're quickly realizing it wasn't quick enough, 177 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: realizing that we were way too ambitious on what we 178 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: could get into this show. 179 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 5: We have a problem to talk about this. 180 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: So we're gonna we finished our trees, the top five 181 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 1: trees for beauty and function, ecological function, function, and now 182 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 1: we're going to round that out with shrubs. And we've 183 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: all determined that we've got to reconvene this this cabal 184 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: sometime soon and do the herbaceous, the perennials, the grasses 185 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: and annuals some other time we can throw that in. 186 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: So let's quickly because we still are going to be 187 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: pushing the time here. Move on to shrubs, heather you. 188 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 5: Start, So I love to start with one that I 189 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 5: call Nature's rebel, and that's because it is blooming in October, November, 190 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 5: and December when everything else is going to sleep. And 191 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 5: that is our American witch hazel. So of course we 192 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 5: love our hybrid cousins, the termed Yes, they bloom more 193 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 5: and you know, late winter, early spring, but this is 194 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 5: a plant that is blooming these like ribbon like fragrant 195 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 5: yellow flowers. They're offering that laziason pollen and so just 196 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 5: a plant that we don't see as often, but I 197 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 5: think it is one we should consider because of that 198 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 5: unique bloom bloom time. 199 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: Grayfall color. Yes, I put down the Hammalus intermedia and 200 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: specifically I chose Jelina because I like it the most, 201 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: but for the opposite reason. It's blooming wintertime. You know, 202 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: so many other in the winter, maybe starting in January, 203 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: going into February and well into March, depending on how 204 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: the weather is. But it's at that pollen at that 205 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: time of year that's so important. 206 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 5: Not pop of color when things are going dark. I 207 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 5: had that too, Yeah. 208 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 6: Really. 209 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: Great for poneers. It's a perfect small tree too, stay. 210 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 5: Small considered either gray fall color. 211 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 1: Early flowering, great form. You can't be a Jennifer. 212 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 2: Yellow bloom at all. And when that's blooming, people will stop. 213 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 3: What is that. 214 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 4: Something about seeing that display of bloom with a little 215 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 4: snow on it. 216 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 5: And everything else is asleep. 217 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 3: For all the people that think there's nothing to see 218 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 3: in the winter garden, you're like, no, you need to 219 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 3: go out all the time because there will be something 220 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 3: to reward you. 221 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 6: Yeah. 222 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a whole other convers I picked a shrub 223 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 3: that everyone can grow easy peasy carry opter a dark night. 224 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 5: I forgot about that. 225 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 6: It grows. 226 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 3: If the winter's hard, you just whack it back. It 227 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 3: comes back now. 228 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 2: Fair warning. 229 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 3: If the soil is really really loose, like we have 230 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 3: at the shop, it will spread. But it's like pulling 231 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 3: the string off a sweater. It's you're not going to 232 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 3: get out heavy equipment. You just pluck it out. It's 233 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 3: no big deal. 234 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 5: But those blooms, that's a great late one too, and. 235 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 2: The silvery it starts. 236 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: Is it blooming now just about just about? So now 237 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: until frost? 238 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 5: Yeah? 239 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: And yeah it's a great long blue. 240 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, which is rare in nature. 241 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 3: Everybody can grow it. So if you're new to gardening 242 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 3: and you're afraid what if I kill it? 243 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 2: You won't kill it. And it's not expensive, so if 244 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 2: you do, it's not the end. 245 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 6: Of the world. 246 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 5: Comes back if you think you killed it exactly exactly. 247 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: Kind of a die back winter shrub. 248 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 3: Sometimes you winters especially, we have to do some heavy 249 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 3: pruning of ours because I haven't, and they look like 250 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 3: a bw. 251 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 5: It does come back better, yea, So they're going to 252 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 5: get lopped. 253 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 4: Back, I know. The late season bumblebees sleeping on it. 254 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 4: I think that were kicked out and that was the 255 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 4: one plant that they just wanted to live. But yeah, 256 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 4: they were just I went out in the mornings and 257 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 4: it's like, hi. 258 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 5: Guys, you know that is a great choice. We need 259 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 5: more of those for sure around here. 260 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 4: Absolutely, Ye, Sarah, I put Viburnum dentatum. The glitters and 261 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 4: glows is very, very lovely. It's a native. It's a 262 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 4: cultivar of a native shrub, and it's glossier than your 263 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 4: average viburnum. The fruit almost looks like blueberries and good 264 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 4: for good for food for birds. The white flower is 265 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 4: great for pollinators early flowering, and it's just a gorgeous 266 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 4: garden plant. 267 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 268 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 4: I love the blue Muffin is another one, and then 269 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 4: the old one Chicago luster is much much larger. But yeah, 270 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 4: just viburnums are are great in general, just really good. 271 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: Good habitat, is thick. 272 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I like it for cover, even if it 273 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 4: didn't do the other stuff. 274 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 3: You know, they're pretty tough birds, so again, it's not 275 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 3: something you have to stress out about growing. 276 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 2: They're forgiving. 277 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to jump in. I have another viburnam, 278 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: but I'm worried about time, I'm going to jump in 279 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: with a bottlebrush bucky. Oh yeah, it's It's an obvious choice, 280 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: but such a good one and not used as much 281 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: as it should be ecologically. It's big, it's bold, adaptable, 282 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: deer proof, sun shade, wet, moist. It handles almost everything. 283 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: Like we talked about with the Ohio buck guy, the 284 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: nuts are just wonderful for nature and also beautiful works 285 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: of art. The habitat I love makes a nice screen. 286 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: It's good in a bulk. 287 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 4: It makes its own thicket, almost like a honeysuckle, but 288 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 4: it's not. 289 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 3: Mult Yeah, plies politely run out in the yard is 290 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 3: just going to make a bigger six and picture. That 291 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 3: was like a beautiful piece of artwork in front of it. 292 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 5: I mean being polite. It's a very polite plant. 293 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: It's not going to get a foliage. Is nice and rich, 294 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: nice green, and the way it hangs down softens the 295 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: suckering look of it. So everything about it's great. It 296 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: does host thirty five species a lepidopter. 297 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 2: Wow, well done. 298 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, wow, that's incredible. 299 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: So let's move right back to heather. 300 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 5: So I have nine bark morphisocarpus for my next one, 301 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 5: and you know, we have a lot of different varieties 302 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 5: or cultivars of this plant that are going to have 303 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 5: the incredible fall color. This does have spring flowers, colorful 304 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 5: seed capsules, It does have that beautiful, beautiful bark. But 305 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 5: one thing we always do have to remember with these 306 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 5: natives is that if you're going for a native species, 307 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 5: the native strait is going to typically offer more benefits. 308 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 5: So kind of consider that when you are picking the cultivars, 309 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 5: which usually are more showy and spectacular. 310 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, you know, we actually have a caller, Carol 311 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: from Villa Hills, so let's go ahead and take that call. 312 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: Good morning, Good morning, how are you. 313 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 8: I'm good, thank you. I have a question about my 314 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 8: oak leaf Hydranta. 315 00:16:58,640 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: Okay it is. 316 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 8: It's so pretty right now with all the blooms on it, 317 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 8: but I would like to cut it back about a 318 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 8: good third, maybe even half if I can. And I 319 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 8: know that the blooms stay on even when they turn brown. 320 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 8: They're sort of pretty. So if I if I prune 321 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 8: them too late, then I'm pruning off the blooms for 322 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 8: next year. And if I prune them now, I'm cutting 323 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 8: off all the flowers for this year. So when is 324 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 8: a good sweet time to prune that back heavily. 325 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 1: Who wants to take it? 326 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 5: So I believe that oak leaf Hydrangeas and Jennifer Sarah, 327 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 5: you can correct me if I'm wrong, actually bloom on 328 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 5: new wood. 329 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: They do. 330 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 5: So you can actually go ahead and prune those when 331 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 5: they go dormant this winter and you won't won't hurt 332 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 5: the plant at all. As far as blooming in the. 333 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 8: Spring til yeah, oh okay, okay. I wonder that if you. 334 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 1: Wanted to cut off the seedheads to use this to display, 335 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: you could even do that now, yes, yeah, and uh 336 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: and still get the flowers next spring. 337 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 8: Oh you mean cut the bloom now? 338 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, well it should be done blooming. You should be 339 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: looking at seedheads right now, I imagine so, and they're 340 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 1: they're very showy. So you can cut those off now 341 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: if you want still blooming. 342 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 5: I think it depends on the cultivar. Like I have 343 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 5: a double bloomer, So if you have a single bloomer, 344 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 5: those are probably getting closer to going to seed. Double 345 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 5: bloomers will last a little longer. 346 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 4: So yea, yeah, all right, yeah, the flowers off, you know, 347 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 4: it's just an ornamental thing. 348 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's another good plant that should have been on 349 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: our list for beauty. 350 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 5: And oh, Heather pointing to myself, it's my number two. 351 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're talking experts. Are we all have it on 352 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 2: the list? 353 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: Yeah? Right, so, yeah, that is a great one for 354 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: a lot of reasons for for beauty. It's the flowers 355 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: are dropped it. Yes, the fall color is great, the 356 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 1: seedheads are interesting, the farm the bark is nice. 357 00:18:58,240 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 2: It's also forgiving. 358 00:18:59,359 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 5: It is forget. 359 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 3: If you find one that hasn't been touched or manicured 360 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 3: in years, just walk it back fine if you need to. 361 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I love this plant. The only reason I didn't 362 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 4: put it on is because I wasn't sure how much 363 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 4: the flowers supported pollinators. 364 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 5: But either but native the native varieties can to a degree. 365 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 5: But once we start getting into any of the cultivars 366 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 5: with the double flowers, no, not at all. Okay, but 367 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 5: then I have my double blooming one, the snowflake literally has. 368 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 5: The flowers are eighteen inches right now as long as my. 369 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 2: Arm, Yeah, they can get that's good drama. It is 370 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 2: we need dramas. 371 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, beauty. 372 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 1: Question whose turn is it? Where do we leave? That's 373 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 1: Jennifer's turn. 374 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 2: This is not native secret got a minute a minute, 375 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 2: So I. 376 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 3: Picked pirate canthus because I love, love, love the berries. 377 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, love the glass foliage. 378 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 3: If you're trying to keep teenagers at home planted under 379 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 3: the windows escape, it's good nesting site. It'd be great 380 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 3: as foliad it is yea and the birds will eat 381 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 3: the berries. But if you're a native, if you're planting 382 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 3: with natives, this is not the one you're gonna pick. 383 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 2: But if you just want to get something with a 384 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 2: little drama, that orange berries. Those are really sexy in 385 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 2: the fall. I mean you gotta see them. 386 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's seeing as believing on that one. Yes, it's 387 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: an old fashioned plant people don't use as much. You 388 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: are listening to that s Guarden with Scott Arline. Catch 389 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: our podcast later on at the iHeart app or any 390 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: source of podcasts. 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I love smooth Hydranchas. 418 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: I had it too. 419 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 8: Yeah. 420 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 4: Annabelle, of course is the one that everyone knows that's 421 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 4: been getting knocked lately because it's not as good for 422 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 4: the pollinators. But there's a lot of newer varieties that 423 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 4: are coss. Halo is, Antislo is getting a lot of 424 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 4: press well deserved in vincent bel ruby is sort of 425 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 4: a blush color, and Sublime is like the whitish greenish 426 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 4: and they're just all great garden plants, very dramatic and 427 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 4: native native and just a wonderful plant. 428 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. I really enjoy this. Oddly enough, the incredible, the 429 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 1: one with the super huge booms. You would think, oh, 430 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: that's starting to get into big breeding and things like 431 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: that and won't be good for pilners at the zoo. 432 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: It's knocking it out for polonaiers. 433 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 4: And I've seen it. I've seen it just covered in pollinators. 434 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, So lots of good choices there. I have a 435 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 1: great one another native shrub cephal aanthis occidentalis or button bush. Yeah, 436 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: and I specifically specifically chose a cultiv ar maybe the 437 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: only cult Well, there's a couple others, but this one's 438 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 1: a sugar shack and I did that because it adds 439 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 1: fall color to the mix, which is really nice. And 440 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: it's i think a little more compact than the regular. 441 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: It's significantly more okay good, which is good to know 442 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,959 Speaker 1: because the regular plant gets really large. It literally can 443 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: grow out of six feet of water. It can be 444 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: a water plant wet locations, but it also does find 445 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: an ordinary garden soil hosts a lot of things. It's beautiful, flowers, 446 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 1: draw pollinators like you would not believe. The seedheads are nice. 447 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 1: All about everything about it is really beautiful and cool 448 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: for the environment. So Heather, you've got one more. 449 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, one more, And I'm actually surprised I haven't heard 450 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 5: this one yet from anyone, which is the spice bush. 451 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 5: And of course spice bush is the one of the 452 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 5: indicator plants for the easterndiciduous biome that we sort of 453 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 5: find ourselves on the cusp with. I think, Sarah, earlier 454 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 5: you mentioned American beach, which is sort of the tree 455 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,719 Speaker 5: that goes along with that. But this is one that 456 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 5: isn't going to take up a lot of space. It 457 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 5: does offer full you know, four season interest, early flowers 458 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 5: and just one you can kind of tuck in here 459 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 5: and there. And of course it's also going to be 460 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 5: providing that habitat and food source for a spice bush, 461 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 5: swallowtail butterfly as well. 462 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. Good good native uh sun or shade? Great, great plant. 463 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: Your next one, your last one, Jenn, my last, make 464 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: it count. 465 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 5: So much pressure. 466 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 3: This one I picked because of sentimental nostalgia. 467 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: Oh, that's always a mistake. 468 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 3: So I picked pussy willows as I remember my mom 469 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 3: always taking pussywillow cuttings and Forsythia forces and or so 470 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 3: bringing that spring in, getting spring started earlier. But I 471 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 3: was surprised to see that is the larval host for 472 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 3: several types of moths and butterfly, so it is. It 473 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 3: is very good for the environment too. And there's just 474 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 3: something again about way that morning light shines on those 475 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 3: little It looks like yeah, you know, and I kids 476 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 3: love it. 477 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 478 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 4: That's actually my earliest memory of being delighted by a plant. 479 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 4: My grandmother had it in her garden and she showed 480 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 4: it to me and I thought, this plant has fur. 481 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 2: It feels like when. 482 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 3: Kids come and they pick the lamb's ears and like 483 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 3: this is cool. Or the little boys love rattlesnak master. 484 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 2: Like this is like a weapon. So anything that. 485 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 3: Gets hits excited about the plants, and it's something about 486 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 3: it just kind of ties me back to childhood and 487 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 3: my mom's childhood, and that's your family history. There round 488 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 3: one shrub. 489 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: So fantastic, good choice. 490 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 4: Sarah, another shrub. Huh, well we already we already mentioned. 491 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 4: But gray al juniper. Yeah, you know, common is dirt, 492 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 4: but it is just a fantastic plant. Yeah, and oddly 493 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 4: I don't actually use it a lot in my designs. 494 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 4: When I design with it, I put it by itself 495 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 4: and I put plants around it that you know won't 496 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 4: overgrow it, so it can stretch. Please let that thing stretch. 497 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 4: You would not believe how big they get and how 498 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 4: beautiful they get if you just never prim them. And 499 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 4: they want to grow horizontally. They do not want to 500 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 4: be cut back, don't and. 501 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: They just look bad once you do, and they don't 502 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: cover after you. 503 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 4: And it's a native cultivar. It's got the berries and 504 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 4: we well I won't say we tried to kill one 505 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 4: at Spring Grove, but we dug one up and we 506 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 4: sat it on top of the ground for weeks, and. 507 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 1: That's pretty much trying to get well. 508 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 4: We weren't we weren't planning on planting it, I don't think. 509 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 4: But but at any rate, it's it showed zero signs 510 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 4: of transplant shock. We replanted it did great. That's you know, like, 511 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 4: how many plants can you do that too? 512 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: Again? The cones slash berries for birds. Great habitat plant. 513 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 4: And it's big blue, which is I love to design 514 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 4: in front of that with as that as a backdrop. 515 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 4: So yeah, it's a great plant. 516 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: Okay, my last one, and this is almost a guilty 517 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 1: pleasure and people in the South are probably just going 518 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: to like vomit. But Grand Flora. I went back and 519 00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: forth actually between this and the carryopter is uh dark 520 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: Knight night because for the more or less the same reason, 521 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: they both bloom forever. And the abelia comes in about May, 522 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: I guess, and it's semi evergreen, so it's good habitat. 523 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 1: But that bloom persists all the way to frost. And 524 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 1: I see hummingbird moths on it a lot. I see 525 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: hummingbirds and a lot of other ponds. 526 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 5: Amazing. 527 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't pick that one up really, but yeah, 528 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: I've heard that. 529 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 5: Oh I do smell like honey, like literally like honey. Yeah. 530 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 4: There was some of the golf course that I worked 531 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 4: at in Georgia, and every time you went by that 532 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 4: mass planting of it, Oh, it was fantastic. 533 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. There's new forms of it now that stay smaller more. 534 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: It has its own kind of decent mounting kind of habit, 535 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: but the newer cultivars are even more compact, some of 536 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: some of them. There's also like a variegated form. I 537 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: don't care for the variegated types, but some people love them. 538 00:28:58,760 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: So you know what. 539 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 4: I did not like it until I saw it at 540 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 4: night on a walkway and it had outdoor landscape lighting. 541 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 4: And I tell you what, that is a night garden plant. 542 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 4: That kaleidoscopeabilia, that's the name. 543 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: I couldn't think of it. 544 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 4: But put it on a patio where you have, you know, 545 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 4: string lights or something, and it really looks good in 546 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 4: that lighting. It looks weird in full sun. 547 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 6: It a lot. 548 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So we do have time to go back 549 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: and pick out like our number one choice of each category, 550 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: so we'll race three. We'll go back to trees and 551 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: start with out of the five that we had, what 552 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: was our absolute favorite of the tree. So Heather you 553 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: go first. 554 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 5: Oh gosh, that is really really tough. I'm probably gonna 555 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 5: have to go with the the quercus by color so 556 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 5: swamp white oak cho okay. 557 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 3: Jennifer, Well, if we can't include a comedy sketch, and 558 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 3: I think I'll use the red bud because I know 559 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 3: everyone will have success with it and anybody our garden. 560 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, Sarah, about you? 561 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 4: I you know, I'm gonna say white oak, even though 562 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 4: it's not something I always put as a garden plant, 563 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 4: but there there is just nothing is beautiful, functional. 564 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: Biomass in the whole nine yards. 565 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 4: Find a spot for it if you am. 566 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. And I'll round out with the American holly because 567 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: I do love it so much. It's so beautiful and 568 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: also just a great one and way underused. It should 569 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: be used in a lot more gardens. So yeah, moving 570 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: on to shrubs. Your number one. 571 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 5: Pick, I'm gonna say American witch hazel. 572 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: Oh, good choice, that's Heather. American Yeah, the which American 573 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: white which hazel is good one. 574 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 3: Jennifer, It's the one you brought up. But the bottlebrush 575 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 3: buck eye. 576 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: Huh yeah, yeah, that's a good one. I mean, that 577 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: would be my number one choice, but you took it 578 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: away from. 579 00:30:55,000 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 3: Me, So that's I am the guest, So I have that. 580 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: Sarah, what about you? 581 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 4: I am just so in love with has halo smooth hydrant. Yes, 582 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 4: it's it's a knockout. Even if it had no ecological function, 583 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 4: you would still plant it because it's so beautiful and 584 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 4: you can't mess it up. You cut it back in 585 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 4: the spring, you can cut it to the ground and 586 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 4: you know, for the most part, if it's a healthy plant, 587 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 4: just shoot right back up. And yeah, fantastic for pollinators. 588 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 4: It hits every single mark for me as a designer. 589 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: Every single market. That's the way of phrasing that you 590 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: guys gave me no choice because you took all of mine. 591 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: But the one I'm going to, the one that's left over, 592 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: is very very good, and that's a sugar shack button 593 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: bush and Cephalanthis occidentalis it's new. I don't think it's 594 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: really hot. 595 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 7: On a that's proven. 596 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: It is a proven winter plant, so you know it's 597 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: got marketing behind it and it will and distribution and distribution, 598 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: so it's readily out there and while we're seeking out. 599 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: It's a full package pollinators, wet or dry sites, very adaptable. 600 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: I don't know how much shade it can take, but 601 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: it can. It's pretty adaptable. Otherwise, seedheads, easy host plant, 602 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: good foliage too good foliage. Yeah in the fall color 603 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: with the sugar shack. So so we ran out of time. 604 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: I can't tell you that I'm surprised that we did 605 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: not get to perennials and grasses or annuals. But you 606 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: all agree to come back and join us for the 607 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: follow up show to this and do perennials and annuals. 608 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: We'll find a date. We'll find a date, and we'll 609 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: make it happen. Jennifer, such a pleasure for you to 610 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: be here again. 611 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 6: Thank you. 612 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: Jennifer Smith, Wimberg Landscaping and UH designer educator, so much 613 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: more enthusiast I see. I just look at you and 614 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: I think enthusiasm, and you're always spreading the gospel on 615 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: gardens and plants. I love that. Thank you. And Heather, 616 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: thank you also Professor of Horticulture and Agriculture at since 617 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: he State. Where can people learn more about the program? 618 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 5: Website so literally you can just google Cincinnati State Horticulture 619 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 5: and it's the very first thing that comes up, very first. 620 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, great, And Sarah, I think you're staying with 621 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: me for fifteen more minutes. Yeah, okay, and we'll be 622 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: back after this with just a wrap up, and you 623 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: know what, Gary Sullivan's going to join us. That's always 624 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: a lot of fun, so stick around. We'll be right back. 625 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 6: Recently I visited the Zollar Pump Company in Louisville. We 626 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 6: toured the factory, the innovation building where they trained plumb 627 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 6: We got to see the attention to detail on every 628 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 6: pump they manufacturer, and of course the innovation behind it. 629 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 6: Zalor's a four generation, family owned company, and you can 630 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 6: tell the people truly care. 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But wasn't that fun? 646 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 4: Wasn't it was so much fun? 647 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 1: Well, great conversation. They're so good with plants and insight 648 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,280 Speaker 1: that I would not have come up with. And it's 649 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: good to have a committee, a couple like, you know, 650 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: a group to bounce these things around with. So that 651 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: was a lot of fun. Yeah, we'll definitely do it again. 652 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: We started out thinking we would do the top five trees, shrubs, 653 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: perennial and annuals, and we just managed to get through 654 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: the trees and shrubs, So. 655 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,720 Speaker 4: We will do you know, I'm not surprised. 656 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised. Well, yeah, I'm not too surprised, and 657 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward now to the next show. Yeah, we 658 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: finished that, Sarah. We are not alone. We are joined 659 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: now with Gary Sullivan. 660 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 4: Oh hi Gary, Hello Sarah. 661 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:21,479 Speaker 6: How are you good? 662 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 5: How are you doing? 663 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,280 Speaker 6: Wonderful? Doing wonderful. It's a busy time of year. 664 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 5: It Yes, it is so busy. 665 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 1: Plenty to do, Scott to do, There's never ever not 666 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: plenty to do. 667 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right. And then you know, this time of 668 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 6: year always have a tendency look back and say, oh, 669 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 6: summer's kind of slipping away. 670 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to get it in gear. 671 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 6: We gotta make that list and stick with it, but 672 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 6: also look into the fall and things that we need 673 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,879 Speaker 6: to start thinking about prepping. And I'm talking about insulation 674 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 6: and making fireplaces. Would you know all that good stuff, 675 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 6: and Scott, you got an older home. I do with 676 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 6: the price of energy and stuff, anything in particular, you 677 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 6: work on the kind of tight those bills up a 678 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 6: little bit. 679 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been on my list for years, and I 680 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:12,399 Speaker 1: just you know, my schedule is so crazy, but yeah, 681 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,839 Speaker 1: that's on my mind. And the attic insulation is insufficient. 682 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: I know that, right, And I can maybe get up 683 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 1: there and take care of that one of these days. 684 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 1: I've got some knob and two wiring up there. I 685 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 1: got to take care first. 686 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 6: Okay, Yeah, that's a good point too. A lot of 687 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 6: ups and twos. Now, selling that house can be a 688 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,959 Speaker 6: little difficult, not that you're getting ready to sell the house, 689 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 6: but when it comes time. Yeah, there's a lot of 690 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 6: insurance companies they are no longer you know, ensuring that, 691 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 6: so that does become a problem. 692 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,919 Speaker 1: Also on my list. And then you know, once those 693 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: two things get taken care of, I think I'll start 694 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 1: looking into you know, the wall insulation that can blow 695 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 1: in or oh. 696 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 6: My gosh, in fact, that's gonna be one of our 697 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 6: guests that we have, yeah today, Yeah, at twelve thirty today, 698 00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 6: we're going to have USA its. And you know, I 699 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 6: was in an old Victorian house down in a Hartwell area. 700 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 6: This is probably fifteen years ago. I mean, there was 701 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 6: no insulection. I had two inches in the attic and 702 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 6: they probably well, they had nothing in the walls. And 703 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 6: it was a kind of a wintry day and I 704 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 6: walked into that house and the house was cold, and 705 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 6: you could hear the wind and it wasn't very hard. 706 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 6: It was a noisy house. And anyway, I was interviewing 707 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 6: the homeowners and things in chit chat, and then we 708 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 6: left and they got to work and they did that 709 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 6: whole big Victorian house in one day. 710 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 1: Whoa. 711 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 6: And I walked into this house the same day and 712 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 6: my first thing was, oh my god, it's so quiet. 713 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 2: Wow. 714 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: Yes, and they were. 715 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,959 Speaker 6: Yeah, they were near Galberth Road, but not on Galberth Road, 716 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 6: and they were in a subdivision street that had traffic, 717 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 6: but not a massive amount of traffic, but you could 718 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 6: hear stillness. 719 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 1: It was. 720 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:05,839 Speaker 6: It was that incredible. 721 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: For that alone, I think, oh, that's selling me right there, 722 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 1: you know, because you know, anymore, and this is my 723 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 1: industry's fault to some degree, but anymore, during a weekday, 724 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 1: you can hardly not hear some loud lawnmower out there. 725 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 1: Sure sure, if not a mower, a blower strange. Yeah, right, 726 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 1: and you know you don't notice that's bothering you until 727 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:32,280 Speaker 1: it's gone. 728 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 6: Well, my lasting memory of that particular project, like I 729 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 6: said it was fifteen years ago, is walking in that 730 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 6: house and hearing stillness. It was so and I thought, 731 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,919 Speaker 6: oh my gosh, if it's doing that to sound, it's 732 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,320 Speaker 6: really going to help these people with their energy. 733 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 734 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 6: So yeah, the nice thing about that phone installation under 735 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,799 Speaker 6: pressure in the walls is you know, it seeks a 736 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 6: path of least resistance, so it eliminates drafts. Not only 737 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,319 Speaker 6: does it insulate, but it eliminates drafts, which is a 738 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 6: big deal. Even if you only have an in spacing 739 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 6: inside that wall. If you can eliminate drafts from a 740 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 6: standpoint of you know, quietness and also insulation, it's a 741 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 6: big deal. It's a big deal. Keep it on your list, 742 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 6: you'll love it. 743 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely up there, you know. It's and you 744 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 1: mentioned that when we moved into this house, which is 745 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:34,359 Speaker 1: built in eighteen ninety, the original windows were still in use, 746 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,359 Speaker 1: and you know, any kind of wind, Yeah, those things 747 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 1: will be wrapped. In the nineteen sixties era storm windows 748 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 1: somebody put up were not any better, right, and yeah, 749 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 1: talk about drafts, And boy, what a great move that 750 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 1: was when we finally got some new new windows, right. 751 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, nineteen seventy eight came along and everybody went, oh, 752 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 6: we got insulate, we got a valil, we got to 753 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 6: do this, We got to do that, And what a 754 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 6: difference it's made person. I think about living back with 755 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 6: today's energy costs and not making any changes in lighting 756 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 6: and insulation and ventilation costs and your fortune. 757 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 1: You know, people always, you know, they say you hear 758 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 1: this a lot. They don't build them like they used to. 759 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:25,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, they they don't building them better, right, Yeah, well. 760 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 6: That's right, Yeah you don't, Yeah, exactly exactly. Things change 761 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 6: all the time. Yeah, but really when you think back 762 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 6: in the late seventies, we didn't have any roof ventilation, 763 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:41,839 Speaker 6: we didn't have any you know, wall virtual wall insulation. 764 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,240 Speaker 6: We didn't need to. Yeah, a lot were burning coal, 765 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 6: and you know, it was inexpensive to keep your home 766 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 6: you know, eighty degrees in the winter. Yeah, but things change, 767 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 6: and finances usually are driving force to that where we 768 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 6: need to make you know, some changes. So yeah, for sure, Yeah, 769 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 6: for sure. Well, great topics for you Shouw today. I 770 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 6: think guy will be listening. I think a lot of 771 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,719 Speaker 6: people it should be listening. Yeah. We're also going to 772 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 6: have you know, some insurance. We'll have Beth Harper on 773 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 6: and insurance and just talk about all the flooding, not 774 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,359 Speaker 6: just here, but you know throughout the country and what's 775 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 6: that doing to rates there and what can we do 776 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 6: to help alleviate the problem. So Yeah, we got a 777 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:27,359 Speaker 6: lot going on. 778 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,760 Speaker 1: You know, that's a topic where you know you cringe 779 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 1: when you hear it. Yeah, but it's like you need 780 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 1: to hear it. You need to learn about insurance. It's 781 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 1: all changing too well, we'll be tuning into you. 782 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:38,839 Speaker 6: Gary. 783 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 1: I appreciate you very good. Yeah, all right, taught you think? 784 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 1: All right? Sarah, thank you so much for being on 785 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 1: the show. 786 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 4: Always a pleasure. 787 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,920 Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure to have you. And it was 788 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 1: great talking with Jennifer and he their Augustine Jennifer Smith. 789 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 1: You work with O Lord Wimburg Landscaping and then have 790 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 1: their friend since Steak, great great horticulturist in town. Here. 791 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,400 Speaker 1: I want to thank our listeners for listening and our 792 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:10,239 Speaker 1: producer Danny, especially for the pancake breakfast and the mimosas. 793 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 1: Thank you Danny. That was great. Podcasts are available wherever 794 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 1: you find podcasts. Listen. Next week we'll be back. Let's 795 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 1: Guarden with Scott Berlin. We'll see you next week.