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Speaker 3: Today is the fiftieth year anniversary of the wreck of

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Speaker 4: It is.

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Speaker 3: The Steelers' playoff chances are buried deeper than that Great

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Speaker 3: life at this point, as far as I'm concerned, technically, no,

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Speaker 5: They still got a winning record.

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Speaker 6: They're in first place. And yet do.

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Speaker 3: You have any confidence in what you watched last night?

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Speaker 3: Specifically Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers offense. Aaron Rodgers was

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Speaker 3: sixteen of thirty one with one hundred and sixty one yards,

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Speaker 5: Now, one of those.

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Speaker 3: Was not his fault, Calvin Austin letting former Steeler Dante

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Speaker 3: meaningless interception at that point, but it was hard for

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Speaker 3: I think it was a little from Colum A Little

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Speaker 3: Losing Isaac Samalu was the djenga piece that toppled the

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Speaker 3: we've seen him. I wondered if, because that game was

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, can you imagine he got an imaginary cook.

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Speaker 5: If you got to take a dayot no, I kid,

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Speaker 4: What's their thought?

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Speaker 5: Oh it's the Post?

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Speaker 2: Who cares?

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Speaker 3: It's all garbage? If you got to keep his private

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Speaker 6: And from his relationship past, that's probably a good idea.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, yes, once they start talking, it

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Speaker 3: doesn't go good for him typically, and it did not

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Speaker 5: I I don't know how to fick.

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Speaker 3: I honestly think play calling is part of it, but

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Speaker 3: because I think Jalen Warren is just an absolute stud

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Speaker 3: battering ram. But the line is really really bad, and

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Speaker 3: they they are easily confused, and if they don't have

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Speaker 3: they're at their best. Last night they were, They were

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Speaker 2: What do you do?

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Speaker 3: Johnny Smith almost got killed trying to bring down a

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Speaker 3: high thrown ball from Aaron Rodgers. Even when he was

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Speaker 5: Under throw.

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Speaker 3: Calvin Austin, you know, bad choice to go to DK

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Speaker 6: Well, well, I mean bad place to put the ball.

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Speaker 5: Really that's what it was.

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Speaker 3: But then he had safety help if it goes any

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Speaker 3: further in the other direction. But I do understand. Hell,

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I go.

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Speaker 3: I love the idea, I get that, but bad execution.

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Speaker 3: He only had thirty five yards receiving last night, three catches.

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Speaker 6: Fifty eight of them on the one play where Echoes

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Speaker 3: Just and then settling for fifty nine yard field goals

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Speaker 6: They even missed one. I was like, well, now we're

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Speaker 6: definitely doomed. Yeah, because didn't that feel like a six

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Speaker 5: It kind of I thought it was gonna be.

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Speaker 6: Because they're at home versus Tomlin's Boogeyman.

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Speaker 5: That's right, that's right. Joe Flacco comes to town.

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Speaker 6: And the Bears are the Bears good. I don't know,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they won again yesterday.

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Speaker 3: who wanted it less. Yeah, first half, I mean, glass

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Speaker 5: It was an absolute mess.

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Speaker 6: That they gave up ten points in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 5: The time of possession last night was thirty eight to

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Speaker 3: Not thirty eight to twenty two. No, that's horrible. Eighteen

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Speaker 6: And that's why the defense caves right that the offense

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Speaker 3: They didn't gas those guys are you don't give them

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Speaker 3: putting them back on the field three and outs, three

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Speaker 6: It's tough because when you think about the Steelers wins

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Speaker 3: Well, and they didn't get any turnovers last night, and

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Speaker 3: that is their business plan, turnovers. Even though our offense

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Speaker 3: The margin of air for Mike Tomlin's strategy is razor

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Speaker 3: There you go twenty five to ten Chargers and the Steelers,

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Speaker 3: And of course they made us stay up until eleven

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Speaker 3: thirty to watch that entire debacle. Absolute, it was a debacle.

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Speaker 6: A Rod looked one hundred years old last night.

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Speaker 6: He just looked like a jet lag forty one year old.

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Speaker 6: Like that's how I would play if we flew out

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Speaker 3: Yeah, brutal, and he looks scared. I've not seen him

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Speaker 6: Well, the line was porous. I mean, the bookends. Filtano

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Speaker 3: Broderick is slow to react, man, He's just really slow

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Speaker 6: Damn. He looked like Khalil Mack last night.

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Speaker 3: He did looked like that whole Bears Packers thing came

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Speaker 5: Look, did you win the Battle of the trenches against

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Speaker 3: They don't have any skill players that can bail you

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Speaker 5: I mean, Justin Herbert was under fire a lot last night.

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Speaker 6: Year, as he dropped another interception. Yeah, everybody had the

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Speaker 5: It really could. I know that's hard to believe.

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Speaker 3: But if things keep going south, I don't think they're

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Speaker 6: That's why mvs. Is he the answer to all our prayers?

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Speaker 4: This hour brought to you by your neighborhood Ford Store Clouds.

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Speaker 7: With a couple of snowshowers today and a high of

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Speaker 7: The agreement would extend government funding through January thirtieth, while

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Speaker 4: So I don't know if anybody is getting.

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Speaker 4: I told you I love the train.

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Speaker 3: Should have laid some train tracks in this country like

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Speaker 6: Do you buy the conspiracy theory that it was the automakers, Like, I.

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Speaker 6: I mean that's that's why, yeah, why we don't have

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Speaker 3: Mean, you should be super easy to go from Philadelphia

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Speaker 6: Everybody that travels Europe says as much. It's so easy

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Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe we can fix that next week.

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Speaker 7: Well, if you're planning on traveling to visit friends and

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Speaker 5: Six is a lot.

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Speaker 6: I thought four in my head when she's as soon

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Speaker 6: I thought three, it's like long weekend and then get

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Speaker 3: Fish and house guests start to stink after two days

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Ben Franklin, right, stunk after one day.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that guy was gross at all of us. You're

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Speaker 6: of town people were just even at your house. You've

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Speaker 5: Oh oh my god.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I always have people coming in to just

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Speaker 3: I'm like coffee's there, bathrooms there, there's towels, you know.

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Speaker 3: Like I'm not running around making everybody's life, you know,

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Speaker 5: Unless it's my brother Charlie.

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Speaker 3: He always leaves a floater, but that's like his college

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Speaker 3: card though, I mean, I'd be offended if you do.

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Speaker 3: You have a heat lamp in your bathrootes, that's right,

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Speaker 4: I host a little more.

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Speaker 7: I when we like have people at the house or

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Speaker 4: I make breakfast. I make food.

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Speaker 7: I put food out and it's like always accessible, Like

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Speaker 3: I'll get pastes and uh like some fruit in the

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Speaker 5: I'm not like doing anything.

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Speaker 6: You're not cutting it.

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Speaker 4: Some pretty things.

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Speaker 7: But also I set up your room and your bathroom

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Speaker 5: Not me, not me.

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Speaker 4: I like you to today.

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Speaker 3: Ye know, I don't make you feel unwelcome. It's just

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a B and B.

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Speaker 3: It's not your house, that's right, Bowman, be quiet and

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Speaker 7: People admit that they begin dropping hints that it's time

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Speaker 5: Where to go?

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Speaker 6: No sighing, just staring off into the Yeah, sitting in

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Speaker 3: Holding coffee like that, like real clothes, like cradling it

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Speaker 6: Everything. Okay, Yeah, are you enjoying yourself?

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Speaker 5: You know we're gonna go.

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Speaker 4: Claim They just outright tell a guest it's time for

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Speaker 5: I've done it. I've happily done it, Like you have

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Speaker 6: Yeah, see, I don't have any friends. I don't have

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Speaker 6: I think I've talked about this before, but come home

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Speaker 6: our living room smoking SIGs, putting it out in food

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Speaker 2: Problem.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna get Tito the hell out of the house.

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Speaker 6: It's not my friend.

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Speaker 3: Tito is still doing that to somebody right now, I guarantee.

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Speaker 2: I had a.

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Speaker 3: Buddy come to live with me when I first started

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Speaker 3: you know, get my bleep together. And I'm like, yeah, dude,

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Speaker 3: I mean I got a big place. It's totally cool,

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Speaker 5: He's like, I might move to Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, cool man, right, And then every day he's like,

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Speaker 3: I'm like show prepping and he's like pacing around behind

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Speaker 3: I'm like I love you, but like this is not

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Speaker 3: get a job, you know, like there's only one job

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Speaker 5: And then he did, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, And he was kind of laughing about it last

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Speaker 5: But it was otherwise.

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Speaker 3: He was delightful, but I just felt, I'm like, you

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Speaker 3: can't just like watch someone sit there right, you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean, Like if they're really doing things to

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Speaker 5: That's why it's like I don't know that.

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Speaker 3: There's that Netflix show that's on right now, Death by Lightning,

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Speaker 5: Really like to finish it. I did.

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Speaker 3: I loved it. I loved it. It's about the assassination

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Speaker 3: of President Garfield, but it's just it's this assassin and

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Speaker 3: he's basically one of those guys who's just kind of

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Speaker 3: couple of days and I'll pay you when it's all,

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Speaker 5: Like one of those like a couch drifter kind of thing.

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Speaker 6: You know what I mean, And one of those guys

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Speaker 4: No, No, he was finally got himself together.

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Speaker 6: He really actually was impressive as a like couch surf

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he wasn't a couchsurfer so much as he

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Speaker 4: Delusions of grandeur somebody.

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Speaker 3: He wasn't really doing anything, is my point, And he

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Speaker 3: was just kind of he was pulling off frauds to

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Speaker 5: Well live.

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Speaker 3: But he was convincing people he was onto something and

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Speaker 3: he never was. So you can't have somebody like that

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Speaker 3: at your house. What about what about the lake house?

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Speaker 3: Is it hard to keep everything clean up there? Because

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Speaker 3: we know, we know somebody that has like a vacation

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Speaker 3: we stayed there one time, and you know, there it

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Speaker 2: There was.

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Speaker 6: So we're like, all right, well, I wonder if they've

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Speaker 3: I don't know, unless Cardell is flicking boogers every Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think I'm okay up there, start.

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Speaker 6: A booger wall.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure my brother Charlie, Uh, there was a week

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Speaker 3: we might have been able to take an old piece

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Speaker 3: the you know outfield in Forbes Field is still sitting there,

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Speaker 5: Oh glorious.

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Speaker 6: Do you have somebody that comes in and cleans it though,

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Speaker 6: Because my sister has a lake house and she has

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Speaker 3: Dude with your recapped of twenty five to ten Chargers

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Speaker 10: Aaron Rodgers had an awful Sunday night in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 10: as did the Steelers offensive collective. To Mike Tomlin, they

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Speaker 10: all had to wear Chargers twenty five Steelers ten.

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Speaker 11: We as an offensive collective, we're off today, and certainly

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Speaker 11: he's a component of that. I'll let him speak for himself,

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Speaker 11: but we certainly got to be better. Didn't feel like

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Speaker 11: they did anything unanticipated, but certainly they outperformed us, particularly

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Speaker 11: in possession down play.

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Speaker 10: You could say that possession down play. The Steelers were

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Speaker 10: over their first nine third downs. There were less there

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Speaker 10: were less than five minutes remaining in the game before

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Speaker 10: they converted one. Brutal here ends the lesson came win

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Speaker 10: that way. I mean, there's no there's obviously details and

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Speaker 10: nuanced to that, but if you're gonna guess that, the

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Speaker 10: biggest detail was Rogers just consistently missing open receivers that

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Speaker 10: all over the field. Moved to the head of the class.

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Speaker 10: He knew he didn't cut it, but he wasn't about

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Speaker 10: to about to overreact in the aftermath.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I expect play great every single week, and this

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Speaker 8: was not my best performance. I got to play better

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Speaker 8: in this for us to win, whatever it takes, I

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Speaker 8: gotta make a you know, if it's if it's better,

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Speaker 8: checks if it's better throws, whatever it is, I gotta

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Speaker 8: play better. I will, you know. But we got to

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Speaker 8: bounce back. We got a division opponent next week. We're

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Speaker 8: five and four, we're head by a game in the division,

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Speaker 8: and we got to play better on offense, for sure.

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Speaker 8: But you know, this is part of the season. There's

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Speaker 8: ebbs and flows, there's ups and downs, and we can't

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Speaker 8: can't ride the wave.

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Speaker 6: This is the problem, though, is that Baltimore is coming

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Speaker 6: in the other direction. They've won their last three, we've

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Speaker 6: lost three or four. Yeah, and before that it was

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Speaker 6: the other way. Yes, how they got to lead.

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Speaker 10: In the first you're gonna have to beat Baltimore head

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Speaker 10: to head, which you were gonna have to do all alone.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: I like Rogers doesn't want to ride the wave, and

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Speaker 10: he already said he didn't want to ride the roller coaster,

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Speaker 10: so they are kind of running out of stuff to ride. Yeah,

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Speaker 10: ride share and the wheels fall off.

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Speaker 6: He might not be able to well, yeah, they might.

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Speaker 6: Maybe that's why you just sitting on cinderblocks.

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Speaker 3: The way the rollercoaster is the bowl, Uh like a

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Speaker 3: lightning riding a bike when it gets going good again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Jim Morrison rides the snake. This is long seven miles.

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Speaker 3: Well, unfortunately, I think Kenny Stabler is long gone, but.

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Speaker 6: Come on ride the train. But he's not much older

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Speaker 6: than Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 10: It was I got a little kick out of listening

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Speaker 10: to Tomlin last night.

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Speaker 6: He was ornery after the game.

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Speaker 10: He did not want to single out Rogers, and he

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Speaker 10: tried not to do that a couple of times, as

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Speaker 10: you just heard. And finally someone said, I would you

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Speaker 10: assess Aaron Rodgers plate?

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Speaker 6: He said, how would you? Would you?

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Speaker 2: Fat?

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Speaker 10: Lousy, not good, worse than it's been all season.

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Speaker 6: They got to get to the bottom of that. Clearly. Uh,

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Speaker 6: he was no good. And then he also was pissed

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Speaker 6: when somebody asked him if they should have run the

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Speaker 6: ball more. And then he just said, look, guys, we

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Speaker 6: didn't convert on third down. We've been over this a

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Speaker 6: lot of times this season, but I mean, just.

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Speaker 10: The early moments of the game. The deep ball to

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Speaker 10: Metcalf's second possession, you got a safety on dec that's

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Speaker 10: a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 10: I don't know if his route was perfect at the

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Speaker 10: end or Rogers just overthrew him, but that play has

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Speaker 10: to be hit.

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Speaker 6: The play to Johnny he was escaping. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 6: but does the quarterbacks too.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just I'm just giving him a little

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Speaker 3: leeway on that one.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not.

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Speaker 10: He's got to be precise. He demands precision. They turn

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Speaker 10: demanded from him.

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Speaker 6: Even if you're being generous and saying they're not on

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Speaker 6: the same page a little late in the season for that,

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Speaker 6: Why aren't you on the same page with your best receiver?

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Speaker 10: Valid point that he missed Johnny Smith on that one

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Speaker 10: that got replay reviewed in an incompletion that could have

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Speaker 10: been a touchdown. He at Calvin Austin won on one

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Speaker 10: deep and even late in the game the fade to Metcalf,

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Speaker 10: Collins were said that they shouldn't have thrown it. I

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Speaker 10: disagree one thousand percent. He should have thrown it back

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Speaker 10: shoulder or up where Metcalf didn't get it, and not

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Speaker 10: cam Hart. You get DK Metcalf against cam Hart. You

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Speaker 10: can't exploit that at the pylon for six. If you can't,

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Speaker 10: you're gonna lose and you're not.

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Speaker 5: Gonna dust was a big one, I thought.

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Speaker 10: I mean, it's there were guys and they targeted Metcalf

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Speaker 10: seven times. You know, the whole thing about, Oh, everybody's

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Speaker 10: giving him so much attention, and you know they need

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Speaker 10: somebody to take the pressure off. Well, that's why you

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Speaker 10: have Aaron Rodgers, so you can recognize when they're not

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Speaker 10: giving him so much attention and then you make them

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Speaker 10: pay for it. But you know, recognizing it and throwing

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Speaker 10: it to him is not the entire sequence of events

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Speaker 10: that needs to happen. You actually need to complete the pass.

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Speaker 10: So you know, if that's who they are, forget it.

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Speaker 10: Got hope it was the one off, an outlier. I

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Speaker 10: don't think Rogers turned into a pumpkin last night. I

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Speaker 10: don't think all of a sudden, oh my god, I'm

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Speaker 10: forty one. I can't play.

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Speaker 6: Although it was weird to wake up and it feels

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Speaker 6: like it's winter. Yes, how's he going to do outside now?

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Speaker 6: Being a forty one year old in the cold. I

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Speaker 6: know he's played in Green Bay his whole career, in

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Speaker 6: New York, in New York, but at a certain point,

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Speaker 6: like in my life at least, I don't like being

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Speaker 6: cold anymow.

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Speaker 3: I'm with you, I don't like it now. But I mean,

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Speaker 3: he just looked to me like a guy who'd been

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Speaker 3: away from his wife. For eight weeks and then he

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Speaker 3: got home and the honeydew list was insane.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and then he's just like fighting.

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Speaker 6: He got some action, you know what I mean in

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Speaker 6: that ruined like a boxer. Yeah, he's walking around with

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Speaker 6: noodle legs for the rest of the weekend.

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Speaker 3: That Yeah, hopefully the darkness treat the old video dome.

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Speaker 10: Hopefully you got a chance to get down of the beach,

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Speaker 10: wrap himself in that blanket, still out of the ocean

607
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Speaker 10: before the team playing took off last night.

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Speaker 5: That looked like what he was doing on the field

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Speaker 5: last night.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot of Steeler fans walked into the ocean

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Speaker 6: after the game.

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Speaker 10: If that was defining, they're cooked. Rogers didn't think it was.

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Speaker 10: Mike Tomlin refused to acknowledge that it was.

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Speaker 11: I'm not lacking confidence. I don't need a pad on

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Speaker 11: the back. We stunk it up tonight. We'll be back.

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Speaker 10: We're back Sunday, actressure against Cincinnati, which has I mean it,

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Speaker 10: ten points.

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Speaker 6: Ain't going to cut it against that group. No, No, No,

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Speaker 6: at least Pat Friarmouth will be good next week. Playing

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Speaker 6: the Bengals.

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Speaker 10: Seems to be the historical They're coming off the bye. No,

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Speaker 10: they're coming off. Oh, yeah they were. They were off yesterday.

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Speaker 10: They're not the Monday.

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Speaker 6: They're coming off.

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Speaker 5: Oh it's Eagles and Packers tonight. Yeah, it's a good one.

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Speaker 6: It's a good one.

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Speaker 10: They're coming off losing to the Bears forty seven to

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Speaker 10: forty two.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that crazy game, that's what I mean. The Bears

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Speaker 6: have won a couple crazy ones.

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Speaker 10: When they were down fourteen with two minutes and change

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Speaker 10: left in the game and didn't have the ball, took

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Speaker 10: the lead and still lost.

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Speaker 6: And that's a team that really hates itself right now,

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Speaker 6: Both sides of the ball hate each other. Hmm. That

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Speaker 6: was And this week feels like I must win game now.

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Speaker 5: Well yeah, I mean the Bengals are three and six.

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Speaker 6: You want to keep pace because the Ravens are probably

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Speaker 6: gonna win next week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if the Ravens are gonna lose

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Speaker 3: for a while. Abby Hall will have your news coming

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Speaker 3: up at the top of the hour. What are you

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Speaker 4: This actually looked like this was a really good ceremony.

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Speaker 7: But we're gonna be a full breakdown of the Rock

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Speaker 7: and Roll Hall of Fame this past weekend.

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Speaker 5: Nice Tim bens when we come back.

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Speaker 3: We got a power hour Steeler talk for you a

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Speaker 3: little bit later on this morning from Rob King, Voice

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Speaker 3: of the Steelers. Also Jerry d checking in from Los

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Speaker 5: Folks, it's that time of the year.

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Speaker 3: old guy who looked like it he ran out of

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Speaker 3: gas last night, Tim, what saith you on the level

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Speaker 3: of culpability for last night's dismal offensive showing.

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Speaker 13: On Rogers significant.

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Speaker 14: I thought he was really bad, and I thought it

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Speaker 14: showed in a lot of ways, not just what he

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Speaker 14: did or didn't do physically.

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Speaker 13: But also some of the decisions he made.

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Speaker 14: You know, like, for instance, that safety that he took

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Speaker 14: wasn't just about an inability to escape Khalil Mack. It

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Speaker 14: was about an inability to make the right play, the

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Speaker 14: smart play at the right time, popping out of the

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Speaker 14: end zone and then back into it. I mean, come on,

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Speaker 14: once you get beyond the goal line, either take the

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Speaker 14: sack there at the one or two yard line falling forward,

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Speaker 14: or throw the ball away. You don't want to take

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Speaker 14: the sack there. I just thought he was bad all

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Speaker 14: the way around. In fact, I thought number eight had

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Speaker 14: come back as Kenny Pickett at one point another during

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Speaker 14: the course to night.

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Speaker 3: It was that bad it was, And I thought it

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Speaker 3: was predicated on, or at least sort of set off

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Speaker 3: in motion by sam Alu not being there. And the

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Speaker 3: offensive line, I thought just was abysmal. And I thought

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Speaker 3: he was head on a swivel and running scared from

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Speaker 3: the get go.

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Speaker 14: Last night, Yeah, the offensive line regressed. I thought that

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Speaker 14: during the course of the season, Broderick Joe and Troy Foutan,

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Speaker 14: who took some significant steps forward, I thought those two

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Speaker 14: guys both took steps back last night. And you know,

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Speaker 14: there was an interesting, I would say back and forth

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Speaker 14: because they didn't do it knowing what the other one said.

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Speaker 13: I don't believe.

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Speaker 14: But like Mike Tomlin, as you guys alluded to in

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Speaker 14: the sportscast, was asked about the theory that they should

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Speaker 14: have run the ball mor and he rolled literally rolled

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Speaker 14: his eyes and said next at the end of the question.

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Speaker 14: We responded to it, but said, when you don't stay

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Speaker 14: on the field on third downs, you don't have enough

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Speaker 14: downs to run. All right, Well, here's a novel concept.

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Speaker 14: On some of those third downs. Give the ball to

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Speaker 14: war and then like you don't have to throw.

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Speaker 13: It's not a rule, I think. I look back on it.

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Speaker 14: On those first zho of nine third downs that they had,

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Speaker 14: four of them I believe were third and five or less.

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Speaker 14: You can give the ball to war in there. And

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Speaker 14: I think in their eleven third downs that they had

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Speaker 14: when there were two of eleven, four of them went

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Speaker 14: to gainwell, either in handoffs or targets, so like those

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Speaker 14: could be Jalen Warren touches. And it was Rogers who

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Speaker 14: said that we need to get him involved. Wore so

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Speaker 14: the coach of the quarterback obviously aren't on the same page.

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Speaker 10: There and just to pile on Tim. He's your best

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Speaker 10: pass protection back. So if he's not in the game

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Speaker 10: on third down and time is an issue, what's going

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Speaker 10: on with that?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, and Mike, you've heard me complain about this since

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Speaker 14: training camp started. Like, I like Kenneth Gainwell as a player,

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Speaker 14: but part of the problem is that he creates redundancy,

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Speaker 14: especially when Caleb Johnson isn't the first domino that's falling,

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Speaker 14: as I believe they thought he might be by this

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Speaker 14: point where they could have war and do the job

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Speaker 14: that he does very well, which is be the third

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Speaker 14: down back, and then Gainwell is sort of your third back,

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Speaker 14: used as necessary and maybe on special teams. But now

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Speaker 14: you know they're stuck in this rut they've created for

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Speaker 14: themselves work game. Well has to be the third down guy,

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Speaker 14: and Warren is the first and second down guy, or frankly,

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Speaker 14: Warren's best skill set is to play on third downs,

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Speaker 14: which should just meet his in every down back then,

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Speaker 14: but that doesn't make sense to them, So you're not

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Speaker 14: getting the most as you could at a Warren.

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Speaker 3: Did you think that the defensive effort last night, I

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Speaker 3: mean they held them to twelve first half points you know,

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Speaker 3: twenty five overall, it.

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Speaker 6: Got to him five times.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it seemed like they picked up where they left

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Speaker 3: off last week at first Blush, But there were a

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Speaker 3: whole lot of drops last night that might have made

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Speaker 3: that defensive effort look a lot different.

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Speaker 14: Oh yeah, I don't think the defense walks away from

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Speaker 14: the sun scaze because.

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Speaker 13: Porter drops a pick.

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Speaker 14: Instead of that turning into a possession that starts near midfield,

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Speaker 14: it starts the six and they had the safety, so

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Speaker 14: that's bad. There was a drop from Dugger, now granted

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Speaker 14: it was a tip ball, but he had it in

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Speaker 14: his hands, he didn't secure it. That turns into a

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Speaker 14: field goal from Dicker because it was in the red zone.

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Speaker 13: So there's five points right there on the.

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Speaker 14: Scoreboard that happened because of dropped interceptions. And as we

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Speaker 14: said coming out of the Cleveland game, it was weird

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Speaker 14: because that was an odd time where they didn't get

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Speaker 14: interceptions and fumbles and they managed to win the game.

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Speaker 14: But in a lot of other games this year, if

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Speaker 14: they don't get interceptions or fumbles, they lose, and I

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Speaker 14: was a perfect example of that where the turnovers certainly

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Speaker 14: would have helped him, even though they did some good.

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Speaker 13: Things in other areas. Now, that said, they didn't get

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Speaker 13: off the field enough.

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Speaker 14: The offense certainly didn't made the defense stand the field,

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Speaker 14: but the offense didn't get it. The defense didn't get

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Speaker 14: itself off the field enough. Look, at the time of

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Speaker 14: possession was thirty seven minutes. They ran something like nineteen

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Speaker 14: more plays than the Steelers did, so I don't let

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Speaker 14: the defense entirely off the hook. And oh, by the way,

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Speaker 14: camani Vidal would have had well over one hundred yards

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Speaker 14: if he wasn't running into stat boxes to kill the

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Speaker 14: clock the whole time.

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Speaker 13: That was a banged up, tattered offensive line.

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Speaker 14: It showed it sometimes in pass protections for La, but

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Speaker 14: in running the ball it did fine. Like that's enough

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Speaker 14: of a good game from Kamani vid All for them

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Speaker 14: to win, and he's the third string running back for them.

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Speaker 6: And conversely, Tim when the when the Steelers turned the

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Speaker 6: ball over, it seems like any good team is put

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Speaker 6: in it in the end zone. I mean last night

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Speaker 6: you had at least fourteen points off of turnovers for

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Speaker 6: the Chargers.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, one of them was Dante Jackson, just to rub

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Speaker 14: salt in the wounds, and that.

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Speaker 13: Was a tip ball.

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Speaker 14: You know, like I talked about before, granted Dugger had

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Speaker 14: to come up with a tip.

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Speaker 13: He didn't, Dante Jackson did, and yeah, just it seems like.

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Speaker 14: The Chargers were much more opportunistic in many, many different

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Speaker 14: ways last night.

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Speaker 13: The Steelers of the drops all over the place.

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Speaker 14: Austin dropped the ball, the punt returner Williams he muffed

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Speaker 14: the punt, so you know, like.

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Speaker 13: It was they had the drops, He's all over the place.

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Speaker 14: And you know, again k Metcalfs either not getting separation or.

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Speaker 13: Not targeted enough.

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Speaker 14: And when he was targeted, the plays just didn't work.

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Speaker 14: Whether that's some bad throws from Rogers or whatever. It

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Speaker 14: was just an offensive debacle all around.

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Speaker 2: Herbert gets his snaps here. There's bringing the house on

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Speaker 2: a flip.

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Speaker 1: Herbert steps back, throws and cleek to mccaukee stepped away

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Speaker 1: from tackle, racing down the left sideline. Ramsey in pursuit,

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Speaker 1: stops cuts back. Ramsey finally hauls him down and slings

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Speaker 1: him to the turf at the thirteen yard line. The

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Speaker 1: great throw by Herbert, just a perfect throw to mcconkee.

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Speaker 1: He heads up the left sideline and picks up a

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Speaker 1: back breaking, huge gain here for the Chargers.

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Speaker 3: Backbreaking indeed, Rob King voice of the Steelers on the

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Speaker 3: Steeler Audio Network. He'll be joining us in the nine

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Speaker 3: o'clock hour today for a power hour Steeler Talk. That

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Speaker 3: fifty eight yarder added to his total of one hundred

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Speaker 3: and seven on the night, four catches and a touchdown

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Speaker 3: for lat mcconkeye.

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Speaker 6: McConkie was shredding the nar Oh.

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Speaker 3: We were really having a tough time at that point

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Speaker 3: in the game. I thought the Steelers defense was adequate

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Speaker 3: in the first half, and they just broke down eventually.

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Speaker 3: Time of possession twenty two to thirty eight. I mean,

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Speaker 3: they just Herbert's just done. Herbert is a tough son

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Speaker 3: of a gun. He's resilient, he's got a cannon for

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Speaker 3: an arm.

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Speaker 6: He's fast as hell. You saw his wheels last night

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Speaker 6: on a couple of those plays where they didn't contain them. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: and I thought they got to him. I thought they

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Speaker 6: smacked him. I thought they put him under a lot

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Speaker 6: of pressure in the first half. But the offense did.

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Speaker 3: Nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing to help them nothing.

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Speaker 6: You gotta stay on the field. You got to convert

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Speaker 6: a third down. You gotta do something.

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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers' worst game by far as a Pittsburgh Steeler,

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Speaker 3: his second worst passer rating ever, sixteen for thirty one

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Speaker 3: hundred and sixty one yards, one touchdown, two interceptions. He

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Speaker 3: looked lost all night, looked under pressure, He couldn't find guys.

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Speaker 6: He looked old, he looked like us. He doesn't like

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Speaker 6: the night games.

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Speaker 3: I think that might have been it, That might have

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Speaker 3: been part of it.

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Speaker 2: And the time.

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Speaker 6: Time is not cool anymore.

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Speaker 5: He's usually in bed by then. Yes, you know he's

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Speaker 5: a goblin.

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Speaker 6: Game looked amazing, you know, morning game. Sure like we're

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Speaker 6: mourning people now. Cup of coffee in a game? Why

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Speaker 6: not one o'clock at the latest. DK Metcalf only had

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Speaker 6: thirty five yards receiving last night. Jalen Warren seventy yards

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Speaker 6: rushing on fourteen carries offense. Jalen Warren is a dog

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Speaker 6: that dude.

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Speaker 3: There's times where I feel like he is the only

883
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 3: guy trying to win, you know what I mean?

884
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 5: Like he is.

885
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,760
Speaker 6: He plays every down like it's make or break.

886
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 3: He saved at least three plays last night with extraordinary efforts.

887
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 3: One was a dump down that that he dug out

888
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 3: of the ground that Rogers threw at him. He broke

889
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 3: two tackles and nearly got the first down when it

890
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 3: could have been a tackle for a loss. The other

891
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 3: one the leap, you know, then he ended up going

892
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 3: for ten yards. They kind of wasted all of that.

893
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 3: But uh, he's just every game. I didn't know if

894
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 3: he would have the stamina to be able to beat

895
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 3: a bell cow like this, and he's got it. Man,

896
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 3: He does he's hard to tackle. When they ripped his

897
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 3: jersey on that one too, I don't understand it was

898
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 3: his undershirt. I don't understand how someone doesn't like he

899
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 3: fix it, But I don't know how the rest don't

900
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 3: stop the game.

901
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 6: The game, yeah, and like come in your spanks, Like,

902
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 6: can you address that? We've got an issue because in

903
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 6: the early in that game. I don't know if you

904
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,240
Speaker 6: saw this, but on the sideline there was an offensive

905
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 6: lineman for the Chargers getting his undershirt cut with scissors

906
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 6: on the side.

907
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 5: Oh really, No, I didn't see that.

908
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 6: Just do that.

909
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, something that was weird.

910
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 3: But I think the story of last night was really

911
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers was awful and he can't afford to be awful. No,

912
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,280
Speaker 3: he missed so many open receivers last night. The offensive

913
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 3: line did not do him any favors. That's for certain

914
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,479
Speaker 3: play calling. I think it's easy to criticize the play

915
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 3: calling when nothing's working. You know, oh that didn't work.

916
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 3: You should have been doing something else. But they couldn't

917
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 3: do anything. There wasn't one thing that was real working

918
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,919
Speaker 3: for them. Other than I still think they get away

919
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 3: from the run too quick every week. I think they

920
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 3: need to be way more boring than they have been,

921
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 3: and I don't know why they're not. I thought we

922
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,240
Speaker 3: were going to see Aaron Rodgers with twenty two pass

923
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 3: attempts every game this year, and there's gonna be a

924
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 3: lot of running the ball by committee, And instead, what'd

925
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 3: you see last night? First play from scrimmage for the

926
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 3: Steelers Andres Pete jumps backs them up. They throw the

927
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 3: ball three times out like what are we doing here?

928
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 3: And time of possession on that for the Steelers twenty seconds?

929
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 6: You know, yeah, right, no time is coming off the clock.

930
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 6: And you can't talk about the disappointment in the run

931
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 6: game without talking about Caleb Johnson. I mean, even though

932
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 6: he had a couple of runs last night, he still

933
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 6: looks lost, you agree, and he could be dynamic. They

934
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,720
Speaker 6: thought he was going to be. How much better would

935
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 6: this team be if they had two running backs where

936
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 6: there was no letup, where Arren is running like an

937
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 6: angry bowling ball, and then he comes out of the

938
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 6: game and Caleb Johnson pounds it for ten tries, right.

939
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't want to get all Jerry Dulek

940
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 3: on you, but bil I called that in the preseason.

941
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 6: But I said to you, I.

942
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 3: Didn't think Caleb Johnson was going to be able to

943
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 3: be what they thought he could.

944
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 5: It wasn't even that I thought the.

945
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,479
Speaker 6: Way you're doing Jerry d voice, but it was your take.

946
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 6: It was my take, Yes, I remember that take. That

947
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 6: was the correct take.

948
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 3: Well, I just kept saying, like, why are we just

949
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 3: assuming this guy is going to pick up all of

950
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 3: Nause's carries? And that was don't forget that was the

951
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 3: narrative at the time, not that he was going to

952
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 3: spell Jalen Warren once in a while. He was gonna

953
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 3: be the doll, right, he was gonna be the guy.

954
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 3: He's not ANFL ready at all. And we're halfway through

955
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 3: the season. Yeah, Jane Well has been better than anticipated,

956
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 3: though I will say that it almost washes it, but

957
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 3: it's more about the wasted draft pick and talk about

958
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 3: wasted draft picks. Broderick Jones is a bust as a

959
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 3: number one draft.

960
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 6: Picko coming in this morning.

961
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 3: Dude, if you're not contributing at this point in your career,

962
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 3: if it's taken this long and you're still not average

963
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 3: at your position, don't get me started.

964
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 6: That is a this is my week spot that this

965
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 6: is my guy, Now you're bumping into it. Those were

966
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 6: my mind and I've tried to stop talking about him.

967
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 3: I know, well, I've tried to talk stop talking about Johnson.

968
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 3: My three concerns preseason were Caleb Johnson, Broderick Jones, and no.

969
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 5: Number two receiver. And I mean I wasn't alone in that.

970
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 3: A lot of people thought that because those were the

971
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:47,439
Speaker 3: glaring sore thumb sticking out. And I think it still

972
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 3: bites him in the ass. But if Aaron Rodgers is

973
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 3: no good, it doesn't matter who you got Eric Dickerson

974
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 3: back there. It wouldn't matter. Well, actually that might matter.

975
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 6: I think.

976
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take that back.

977
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 6: Like if you had Jonathan Taylor. Did you see the

978
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 6: he had yesterday in Germany? Three touchdowns, three and twenty

979
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 6: some yards. I mean, the dude is just incredibly You

980
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:14,240
Speaker 6: had an eighty three yard run, won it and overtime again,

981
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 6: I mean, you get a runner like that. That's why

982
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 6: the Colts have the record. They have Falcons took them

983
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 6: the overtime. The Falcons have bjon Robinson.

984
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 3: I know, but they've been stinking so bad lately. So

985
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 3: that's why I'm saying, like that win by the Colts

986
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 3: makes our win over the Colts look less impressive. Yeah,

987
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 3: you know, like in last night might be more reflective

988
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 3: of what we actually are, which is hot garbage, which

989
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 3: is a mess. And also like I don't like being

990
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 3: one of those people that calls for grown men's job,

991
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 3: but I don't know how you keep your job if

992
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 3: you're the offensive line coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers and

993
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 3: year in, year out, the offensive line is a it's

994
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 3: a mess. I understand that every team, this is the

995
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 3: one group that is the hardest to maintain from a

996
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 3: health perspective and getting uh you know, personnel and being

997
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 3: These guys get paid a lot for a reason. Everybody

998
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 3: has trouble with the offensive line. But they've never ever

999
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 3: rallied around Pat Meyer and come out with a performance

1000
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 3: that you just weren't just a dominating, cohesive experience. And

1001
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 3: you say them all, it was gonna be out. This

1002
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 3: is a week when you really coach them up, and

1003
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 3: they go out there and they were They were not good,

1004
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 3: And it was mostly because of the regression of the tackles,

1005
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 3: like you said, So it wasn't even Spencer Anderson so much.

1006
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 3: I don't know if it was what Khalil Mack made

1007
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 3: him look silly and tully to a Pilado.

1008
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 6: However, you say his name, tap it to Tupoo. That

1009
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 6: team to follow.

1010
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 3: That dude made Roger Jones look silly last night, so uh,

1011
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 3: you know it could have gone better for your Steelers.

1012
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 3: We'll talk with Jerry D from Los Angeles, California, and

1013
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 3: Rob came with a power hour Steeler talk coming up

1014
00:48:59,520 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 3: at nine.

1015
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,240
Speaker 5: But big weekend on the rock and roll front here.

1016
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 4: Abby, that is right.

1017
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 7: The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame held its fortieth

1018
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 7: induction ceremony on Saturday night. That was in Los Angeles

1019
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 7: as well. Reminder, to be eligible for nomination for this

1020
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 7: artists are required to have released their first record twenty

1021
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 7: five years prior to induction. So elected for induction this

1022
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:26,720
Speaker 7: year We're Bad Company, Joe Cocker, Soundgarden, Cyndi Laupper.

1023
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 4: The White Stripes, Chubby Checker, and Outcast.

1024
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 7: They were inducted in the Performer category, which recognizes artists

1025
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 7: who have created music whose originality, impact, and influence has

1026
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 7: changed the course of rock and roll. So the late

1027
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 7: Warren Zevon and the rap duo Salt and Pepper were

1028
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 7: recognized for Musical Influence Award, which is given to artists

1029
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 7: whose music and performance style have directly influenced, inspired, and

1030
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 7: evolved rock and roll music, impacting culture. And we're gonna

1031
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 7: actually start with Warren Zevon.

1032
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 6: I need to say one thing real quick though.

1033
00:49:56,040 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 3: Yeah about those two like which one and Pepper and

1034
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,720
Speaker 3: Warren Zevon being inducted in the Musical Influence category.

1035
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, at the same time, well, we need a little

1036
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 6: salt and pepper with your Warren Zevon, don't you. You don't

1037
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:10,879
Speaker 6: want it to be flavorless.

1038
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 3: I mean, did salt and pepper have that much of

1039
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 3: an impact?

1040
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 6: That's what I'm just gonna ask. I mean, I lie

1041
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 6: am of that world, and you know, I don't know.

1042
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 5: I mean it's salt and pepper.

1043
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,879
Speaker 6: I mean they were there.

1044
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 3: I would you know what I mean, I would put

1045
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 3: TLC above salt and pepper.

1046
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 4: And I don't think there's TLC without salt and pepper.

1047
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 6: Okay, this is care without salt and pepper.

1048
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 7: Salt and pepper from a standpoint of also, uh, what

1049
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 7: I would say is a significantly famous girl group that

1050
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 7: makes the paves the way for a TLC to be marketable. Yeah,

1051
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 7: So I would say in that sense that is significant.

1052
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 3: Every when Patrick Stewart introduced Selton Pepper, I'm sorry.

1053
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 2: Left.

1054
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 6: Where gentlemen, so well that way that sounded good.

1055
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 4: That's correct in there. It's not pepper, it's pepper.

1056
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 3: But he did one of those, is shult. I swear

1057
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 3: at least maybe I remember.

1058
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 4: I think I wanted to be Sean Connery doing.

1059
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 3: Slopper pepper, slap slapper pepper, so.

1060
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 5: I just didn't.

1061
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:39,240
Speaker 6: I don't want to know. I'm listening ump on this segment.

1062
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,879
Speaker 7: But like guys, iron Maidens not in you know, yeah,

1063
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 7: I want to fight, you know, it's not in Toto.

1064
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 5: You know that's like yeah, right, okay, I.

1065
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 6: Mean push it was an anthem, you know, But I

1066
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 6: don't know what songs were really huge outside of that one.

1067
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 3: Shoot Shoo, Shoot none of your business. Giddy up, Push

1068
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 3: it shoo was huge?

1069
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 6: So was push it?

1070
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 2: What a man?

1071
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 6: What a man?

1072
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 16: Man?

1073
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 4: Y'all just answered your own damn question.

1074
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,280
Speaker 6: So they weren't. They definitely weren't a one hit.

1075
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 7: Wonder and again female powerhouse, you know.

1076
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 6: In the genre male dominated, very male domina. They've sold

1077
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 6: fifteen million records worldwide.

1078
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 3: Okay, so shit, it's a lot shut them out, so

1079
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 3: you better push it.

1080
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 4: Better push it real good.

1081
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 2: All right.

1082
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 7: So the late Warren Zevon did get his due, and

1083
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 7: David Letterman inducted him, and with Zevon performing on The

1084
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 7: Late Show more than any other artist, it was a

1085
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 7: really heartfelt speech as Dave recounted his last appearance on

1086
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,399
Speaker 7: the show, which was October thirtieth of two thousand and two,

1087
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 7: knowing that Warren was dying from lung cancer.

1088
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 6: Warren was able.

1089
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 17: To struggle through with the help of his family, with

1090
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 17: the help of his friends, and he did save his

1091
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 17: own life. And I just wonder, is it more difficult

1092
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 17: to save your own life or save the life of

1093
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 17: somebody else or is that equal? But by God, the

1094
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 17: fact that Warren existed through this, tortured as he was

1095
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 17: and saved his own life. To me, listening to the

1096
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 17: man's music, I found it to be even more valuable.

1097
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 3: The book I'll Sleep When I'm Dead is one of

1098
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 3: the great rock and roll tones of all time. I

1099
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 3: highly recommend getting it, even if you're just kind of

1100
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,720
Speaker 3: a fan of Warren Zevon, because the story is crazy.

1101
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 3: He was not a good guy and he tried to

1102
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:45,359
Speaker 3: reform himself later in life as a better person, And

1103
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 3: just as he was kind of finding his footing there,

1104
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 3: he got terminally ill. But the book is full of

1105
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 3: famous people who love Warren Zevon so much that they

1106
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 3: went to unbelievable lengths to try and get him healthy

1107
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 3: and help him kill his demons, and nobody seemingly could,

1108
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 3: but Jackson Brown in that you you will think he's

1109
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 3: an angel when you read that book and all he

1110
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 3: tried to do.

1111
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 5: He did so much for Warren Zevon.

1112
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 6: When you say he's not a good guy, what do

1113
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 6: you mean, like he's not a good drug abuse had

1114
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 6: him doing things.

1115
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 5: He was pretty abusive.

1116
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 3: Not exactly a great husband or or wife or husband

1117
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 3: or father, I'm sorry, or a wife for that matter.

1118
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, terrible wife.

1119
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 3: He was really bad at that rob pot Roast all

1120
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 3: the time.

1121
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 7: Uh Letterman also said it was very, you know, difficult

1122
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 7: for him because he had never talked to somebody who

1123
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 7: pretty much understood that in a very short period of

1124
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 7: time that he was going to be leading the planet.

1125
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 7: But after that show in two thousand and two, uh

1126
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 7: Zevon picked up a guitar that he had used every

1127
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 7: time he did the show, handed it to Letterman and

1128
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 7: said take care of this for me, and he did,

1129
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 7: and on Saturday, it's awesome. He gave it to the

1130
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 7: Killers guitarist and they played it for Laurer's Guns and Money.

1131
00:54:58,080 --> 00:54:59,439
Speaker 5: Oh that's that's so cool.

1132
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 4: Really liked their take on it. Take a listen.

1133
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 6: But somehow I got Stummer.

1134
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 18: Between the roughing up a hard place and.

1135
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:32,399
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the Killers are actually were a good

1136
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 7: choice to do Zvon. I mean in terms of like

1137
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 7: picking somebody who's like, you know, popular today and like

1138
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 7: kind of trying to find that like happy medium in between,

1139
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 7: like you know, bridging the gap. They've got that sound

1140
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 7: for it. Yes, that was a good That was a

1141
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 7: good pick for that one. I want to move to

1142
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 7: the White Stripes here, who also got their induction, and

1143
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 7: we kind of knew that Meg White probably wasn't going

1144
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 7: to attend, So she continues her streak of basically not

1145
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 7: beings in public for about fifteen years.

1146
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 3: But her mayon on the most boring argument in rock

1147
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,800
Speaker 3: and roll is, was Meg White a good drummer?

1148
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 4: Do you like punk music?

1149
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 17: Well?

1150
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 3: This is just what I'm saying is that I think

1151
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 3: people are trying to compare her to like Neil Peart like.

1152
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 5: That's what Yes, it's what it is.

1153
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's umb argument because I would say it's a

1154
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 7: difference between what kind of genre of music do you like?

1155
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 7: Because there's a ton of punk rock drummers who can't

1156
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 7: play to a metronome and a bunch of people that

1157
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 7: would rather go see them play because it makes them

1158
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 7: feel something, right, and Meg White is that kind of

1159
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 7: drummer and guess who really likes her drumming, Jack freakin White,

1160
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 7: so shut up.

1161
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1162
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 4: And also I would say that the whole reason why The.

1163
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 7: White Stripes actually works so well is that Jack White,

1164
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 7: without somebody to police him, is a little too much

1165
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 7: for people. When Jack White doesn't have somebody to reel

1166
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 7: him in, he can kind of get off the skis

1167
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 7: a little bit, and sometimes those wreckers don't connect as much.

1168
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 7: But what really worked with The White Stripes was that

1169
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 7: he had somebody who was almost limited in a way,

1170
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 7: and so he had to kind of get He almost

1171
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 7: got punk rocked because of that, where the other person

1172
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 7: in the band was going.

1173
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 4: I can't do that. What you're doing.

1174
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 7: Needs to get simplified, and it almost made him so

1175
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 7: accessible to people.

1176
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 4: It was the most successful band he's ever been in.

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00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 7: I think it just kept it sounding like the Garage exactly,

1178
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 7: So he kind of has her to thank for that.

1179
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 3: The aesthetic of the White Stripes has as much to

1180
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 3: do musically with Meg as Jack to me, I mean,

1181
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 3: he's a songwriter and all that, but I think, just

1182
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 3: like the tech people want to from a technical standpoint,

1183
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 3: that's just not what that was well said by you.

1184
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, it does that.

1185
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 6: Where has she been?

1186
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 7: My understanding with her is that she had a tremendous

1187
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 7: amount of social anxiety, which was a big part of

1188
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 7: not wanting to do The White Stripes anymore. In addition

1189
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 7: to whatever relationship stuff might have been behind the scenes.

1190
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 7: Obviously they were married, and you know, for whatever reason

1191
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 7: their marriage ended, that was going hand in hand with

1192
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 7: the fact that her anxiety.

1193
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 5: Was so not the easy thing to do, gets of worse,

1194
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 5: stay in a band.

1195
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, that is so unmanageable that you know, she's she's.

1196
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 4: Not a public person.

1197
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 3: So because there's so much cool stuff from Jack White here,

1198
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 3: let's save it till eight o'clock. Yeah, because we're running

1199
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 3: the Jack White stuff.

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00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 7: Is significant and worth its own starting points. So yeah,

1201
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 7: we'll start that at day Am, and also.

1202
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 3: Thought it was really interesting that Jim Carrey was the

1203
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 3: one to introduce sound Garden.

1204
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 7: That was I didn't get it, and then when I

1205
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 7: heard him actually do the introduction, I'm like, oh, it

1206
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 7: makes perfect sense.

1207
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, agreed.

1208
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 3: All right, We've got Rob King with a power hour

1209
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 3: of Steeler talk coming.

1210
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 6: Up for you.

1211
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 3: Black Hole Sun Yeah, brutal performance in Los Angeles last night,

1212
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 3: and also Jerry Deal will be calling in next hour.

1213
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 3: This week's WDV bud Light Game Day Bar of the

1214
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Speaker 3: Week the Trolley stomp In in Bethel Park this NFL season.

1215
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 3: Stop in the Trolley stop and grab three fifty bud

1216
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 3: Light bottles during all Steelers games.

1217
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Speaker 5: But light, easy to drink, easy to enjoy.

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Speaker 9: DVE presents The Small Dwaltz Saturday, November twenty second at

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Speaker 9: celebrates the music of the band's iconic concert film The

1221
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Speaker 9: Last Waltz, featuring Joker, Shecky, Clinton, Clay, Molly Alphabet, Paul Luke,

1222
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1223
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1224
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Speaker 6: The full Ramble horns and more.

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Speaker 9: Don't miss this Thanksgiving tradition is Randy Bauman's Ramble Band.

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Speaker 9: It warns the full soundtrack of the band's film, The

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Speaker 9: Last Wall.

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Speaker 6: A portion of the proceeds.

1229
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 9: Benefit the Greater Pittsburgh Community Food Bank. Tickets for the

1230
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 9: Smalls Walls available at the Mister Small's box office or

1231
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Speaker 9: at DVE.

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Speaker 6: Dot com from the Bridgeville appliances.

1233
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Speaker 3: Why don't two point five DVE Chargers twenty five Steelers ten?

1234
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 6: And it wasn't that close?

1235
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 5: No, it would not, It wouldnt.

1236
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 10: Sports Sure, brought to you by Bridgeville applied to the Steelers

1237
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 10: offense locked lacked, excuse me, a lot of things throughout

1238
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 10: what became a twenty five to ten loss to the

1239
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 10: Chargers last night in Los Angeles. Splash plays third down conversions,

1240
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 10: a consistent running game, accuracy and ball placement from the passer,

1241
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 10: and according to the passer energy.

1242
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 8: And it starts to me, it wasn't as great on offense.

1243
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 8: I felt like we were just kind of struggling a

1244
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 8: little bit and couldn't get a play to get going.

1245
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 8: We always say, we just get a first down, we

1246
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,919
Speaker 8: usually score on that drive. And we had so many

1247
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 8: three and outs and we heard ourselves with a couple penalties,

1248
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 8: and you know, I didn't play very good at all,

1249
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 8: so I gotta play better. But we also got to

1250
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 8: realize this and we got four division games left to play.

1251
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 8: It's a long season, and you know it's a good

1252
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 8: opponent and we didn't play very good tonight.

1253
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's putting it mildly. The Steelers after they failed

1254
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 10: to score on that fade to excuse me, what should

1255
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 10: have been a fade to dk Metcalf, What was a

1256
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 10: line drive to dk Metcalf at the pylon on fourth

1257
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 10: and six from the LA ten early in the fourth quarter.

1258
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 10: Aaron Rodgers at that point in the game was nine

1259
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 10: of twenty one for ninety one yards. His long completion

1260
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 10: at that point was nineteen yards. He had no touchdowns,

1261
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 10: one interception, that had been sacked three times.

1262
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 6: Ish lack of energy part of the issue, and.

1263
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 10: That wasn't something Rogers said he felt or saw coming,

1264
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 10: but it was nonetheless something to which the Steelers succumbed.

1265
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 8: It's just sometimes in the game when you're just not going.

1266
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 8: It's one of those days where we just couldn't quite

1267
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 8: get over the hump and get some first downs.

1268
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 5: His tone of voice was how he played last night.

1269
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, because Mono and he might.

1270
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 3: I don't know who knows. They're not gonna admit to

1271
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 3: that if that's the case. A couple of them looked

1272
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 3: at Darnel Washington looked sluggish last night as well. But

1273
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 3: you know, to your earlier point, Mike, if he's better,

1274
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers, this is a different game. That time of

1275
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 3: possession disparity is just it's something you look at every week.

1276
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 5: Thirty eighth to twenty two is.

1277
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:45,919
Speaker 10: That's profound, and that's something they haven't solved all year.

1278
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 6: But this was.

1279
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 10: They've been inconsistent most of the year. They've had various

1280
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 10: issues most of the year. Sometimes they work around and

1281
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 10: sometimes they don't. This was Rogers' worst game by far,

1282
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 10: and their worst game by far offensively.

1283
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, even by far. The defense letting up twelve in

1284
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 3: the first half. I mean, well, ted are thirteen yeah, thirteen, Yeah,

1285
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 3: I mean they also settled for two fifty fifty nine

1286
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 3: and a fifty six yard field goal the Chargers, did

1287
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?

1288
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 5: Like, I thought the defense was good enough last night.

1289
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 3: They definitely benefited from some drops, no doubt about it,

1290
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 3: But this game can be kind of summed up in

1291
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 3: the offensive line got dominated and Aaron Rodgers was bad.

1292
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:33,919
Speaker 6: I'd go for the second thing.

1293
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 10: I think if they hit some plays, We're not talking

1294
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 10: about the offensive line.

1295
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 3: He was still running for his life all night. I

1296
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 3: wouldn't say running for his life.

1297
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 10: I'd say having to exhibit the standard level of pocket

1298
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 10: mobility that is required of an NFL quarterback.

1299
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Speaker 5: Who do you think got well?

1300
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 3: I mean we got to Herbert a little bit more

1301
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 3: than they got to Rogers.

1302
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 10: Yeah, but you know, hit the play to Metcalf the

1303
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 10: second possession, hit the play to John hus Smith, hit

1304
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 10: the play to Calvin Austin.

1305
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 6: We're not talking about the offensive line. They missed him

1306
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 6: on a touchdown. He missed him on two touchdowns, but

1307
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 6: one was wide opening. He overthrew him.

1308
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 10: I'm not saying that the offensive line was great or

1309
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 10: it doesn't need to be better. What I'm saying is

1310
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 10: I thought they had ample opportunity to make plays against

1311
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 10: an NFL defense in an NFL game, and they did

1312
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 10: not make them at an NFL level.

1313
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Speaker 6: And that's why they had no points. Because the Steelers

1314
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 6: defense dominated a battered offensive line for the Chargers, and

1315
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 6: they got to him five times, and it didn't matter

1316
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 6: because he still made plays and hurt them with his

1317
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 6: legs when he could.

1318
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:45,919
Speaker 3: His receivers dropped a lot of balls, and the point

1319
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 3: that Tim Benz made earlier as well, you know, getting

1320
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 3: to Herbert did fluster him, no doubt about it. A

1321
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 3: couple of interceptions dropped that Joey Porter one was big, Yeah, that's.

1322
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 6: Right, he didn't see him.

1323
01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 10: The Dugger one was deflected, and he's diving and you know,

1324
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 10: trying to catch the ball off inches off the ground

1325
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 10: and keep it off the ground.

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01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 3: The Portal one. You gotta catch that effect of that.

1327
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 3: As you said, that's five points. Don't make that makes

1328
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 3: it a you know, a really good NFL corner's got

1329
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 3: to make that play.

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Speaker 5: Agreed.

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01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 6: Although I don't know what he was thinking by picking

1332
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 6: Ike's number. He knows Ike has stone hands, like he's

1333
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 6: kind of asking for it.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't that like his uncle though? Like ye, like he's

1335
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 3: like his mentor.

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Speaker 5: Ike two four?

1337
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 3: I love like stone hands though, boys, he admitted it. Well,

1338
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 3: they'd all be receivers, you know what I mean. Yeah,

1339
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 3: they could catch.

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01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 2: Now.

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01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 10: The defense gave up through three quarters thirteen points against

1342
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 10: Justin Herbert. That's that's more than good enough. They got

1343
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:47,919
Speaker 10: to wait at the end, because, like you're saying, thirty

1344
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 10: eight minutes to twenty two minutes, it's it's going to

1345
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 10: break down eventually, particularly when you set them up with

1346
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 10: short fields, because your putt return guy can't catch a

1347
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 10: punt and your number two wide receiver can't catch a

1348
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 10: ball that hit him in the hands and bounces to

1349
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 10: the quarnerback you got rid of because he wasn't good enough.

1350
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 6: The inefficiency on third down, Like, who's his go to

1351
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 6: receiver on those possession downs?

1352
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 5: I thought it was going to be John hu Smith.

1353
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 3: He he's he targets him so infrequently, I'm shocked. You know,

1354
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 3: his last three games Aaron Rodgers passer rating against the

1355
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 3: Bengals one oh three seven, against the Packers, one oh

1356
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 3: one five, against the Colts ninety five to three last night.

1357
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 5: What was it?

1358
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 6: Why isn't Papinaetey something? Yeah, failing fifty points six? So

1359
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 6: and it was nineteen in changed for a while for

1360
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 6: a long while.

1361
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Speaker 2: So so he was.

1362
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 3: Just so yeah, But my point is, you can see

1363
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 3: the arc is turning more into a line that's going

1364
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 3: in one direction. He's got to stop it right there

1365
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 3: and and have some solid performances here.

1366
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 6: I mean he went into this weekend.

1367
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 10: Uh, I don't have it right in front of me,

1368
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 10: but if I remember correctly, I think he was eighth

1369
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 10: in the NFL and passer rating and third or fourth

1370
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 10: in touchdown passes. And last night he was just really bad.

1371
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 10: Did he turn into a pumpkin? Did he all of

1372
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 10: a sudden realize he's approaching his forty second birthday?

1373
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 6: Is he never going to play a good game again?

1374
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 6: Or was that a one.

1375
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 5: Off one oh three to one for the season.

1376
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 3: It was fifty point six last night, and his last

1377
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 3: three games have gone steadily down.

1378
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 6: Well, let me say steadily, I mean up in the

1379
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 6: hundred a range, right, Yeah, that's steady every game that's

1380
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,919
Speaker 6: gone down. But last night was a significant dip.

1381
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, no, yeah, I'm not suggesting the next

1382
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 3: game is a one.

1383
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 6: Because you're playing Cincinnati defense. If it's a one, retire

1384
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 6: on the field before the game is over. No, they

1385
01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 6: just they got to be better. And you know the

1386
01:07:58,840 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 6: receiver thing.

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01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 10: They targeted Metcalf seven times, you get three catches. They

1388
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 10: targeted Calvin Austin seven times, he had two catches. It's

1389
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 10: not that they don't have another receiver, so they're not

1390
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 10: getting what they need to out.

1391
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 6: Of their first two. Totally agree. All right, fix that

1392
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 6: and a lot of other stuff's gonna fall up.

1393
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 5: Let's do a quick break. We'll come back.

1394
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 3: Top five plays of the game and lots more to

1395
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Speaker 3: get to from the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

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Speaker 3: induction ceremonies.

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Speaker 6: Habby, that is correct.

1398
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Speaker 4: You sure said it, White Strive.

1399
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Speaker 5: I was looking for you to a great job, right

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Speaker 6: Top five plays of.

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01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 3: The game from last night's loss to the Los Angeles Chargers. Boy,

1412
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 3: what a waste of a Steeler Nation takeover at SOFI

1413
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:22,679
Speaker 3: Stadium last night.

1414
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 2: Fairly.

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01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 6: It was pretty profiled. We could tell it looked like

1416
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 6: that on the broadcast.

1417
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 3: When the Chargers scored, there was not much of a

1418
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 3: you know, uproar.

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01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 6: Before the game started, they were practicing the silent count.

1420
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 10: The Chargers were yes, uh, it was all for not

1421
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:45,520
Speaker 10: During the game, the Steelers were practicing these siloed.

1422
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 3: Offense number five kicking things off literally once again, I mean,

1423
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 3: thank god for pause. Ten to twenty five into the

1424
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 3: first quarter. They line them up from fifty nine yards.

1425
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 3: It was good by ten.

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01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 1: Here's a snap, here's the boot from Boswell, and that

1427
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 1: pick is good. Fifty nine yard field goal for Chris Boswell.

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01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:14,799
Speaker 3: Three nothing Steelers at that point. That was a sixteenth

1429
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 3: in a row. Yes, that streak would come to an end.

1430
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 3: It would, unfortunately at number four, five minutes left in

1431
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 3: the first period of play. And the reason I have

1432
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 3: a hockey reference there is because we'd have a hockey score.

1433
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers steps back to pass, sacked Khalil Mack with

1434
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 3: the safety Rogers back.

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01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 5: Rogers steps up.

1436
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 2: Now he's going to retreat.

1437
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:47,599
Speaker 1: Back at at the end zone and Rogers is sacked

1438
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 1: by Khalil Mack and it's going to be.

1439
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 6: A safety, almost a touchdown. He fumbled, Oh my lord,

1440
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 6: and thank god he fell on it, got his own fumble. Buck.

1441
01:10:56,960 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was three to two. Well, and Hadji had

1442
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:08,760
Speaker 3: Joey Porter Junior intercepted Herbert on the gift that he

1443
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 3: gave him there, that would have saved us from that,

1444
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 3: but it didn't happen. It's three to two there. At

1445
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 3: number three, Aaron Rodgers was just.

1446
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 5: Off all night long.

1447
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 6: RJ.

1448
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 3: Mickens on this interception stopped yet another Steelers drive.

1449
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 1: Rogers gets a snap back looking right, fires over the

1450
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 1: middle of Givens, intercepted overthrown for metcalf and it is

1451
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 1: picked off by Mickens and Mickins returns it to the

1452
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 1: thirty six yard line of.

1453
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 3: The Steeler a couple minutes left in the first half there.

1454
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 3: That allows the Chargers to get another score before half,

1455
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 3: and then they get the ball back to start the

1456
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 3: second half the bueno at number two play of the game.

1457
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 3: This was right at the end of the third quarter.

1458
01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 3: They line up dick Er the kicker. Now he's not

1459
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:01,600
Speaker 3: the thick kicker. The thicker kicker is the one that

1460
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 3: plays for San Francisco. This is Dicker the kicker San

1461
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 3: Francisco or the Rams? Is it the Rams? I'm getting confused.

1462
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 3: I think it's the Rams, all right.

1463
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 6: Well, at any rate, Dicker, the kicker ends up, Dicker

1464
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 6: the donker.

1465
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 1: Dicker, that kit is up, and that kit is no good.

1466
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 1: No good off the cross bar and no good and

1467
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 1: maybe are off the upright. I beg your pardon, Maybe

1468
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 1: maybe this is the break the Steelers needed in this game.

1469
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 6: Nope, spoiler alert, no.

1470
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 3: Narrator, no no, indeed it was not fast forward to

1471
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 3: what was there ten minutes left in the fourth quarter.

1472
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 6: On this one?

1473
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, like eleven minutes your.

1474
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:52,679
Speaker 3: Number one play of the game. Laddimerconkeye fifty eight yard

1475
01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 3: reception from Justin Herbert.

1476
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 1: Herbert gets his snaps here. There's bringing the house on

1477
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 1: a blitz.

1478
01:12:57,400 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 5: Herbert steps back, throws and complete the McCaw.

1479
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 1: He stepped the tackle racing down the left sideline. Ramsey

1480
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:07,760
Speaker 1: in pursuit, stops cuts back. Ramsey finally hauls him down

1481
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:11,679
Speaker 1: and slings him to the turf at the thirteen yard line.

1482
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 1: The great throw by Herbert, just a perfect throw to Maconkey.

1483
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 1: He heads up the left sideline and picks up a

1484
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 1: backbreaking huge game here for.

1485
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 5: This was the back breaker.

1486
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 6: That's how you win games. You make plays.

1487
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 10: Yeah, you can't catch, you can't throw a ball any

1488
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 10: better than that. Brandon Eckles had a tough night in

1489
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 10: the slot, but he was all over that.

1490
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 6: That window was minuscule.

1491
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 10: It was like the score a window, you know, the

1492
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:42,720
Speaker 10: little area was a little bit bigger than a puck

1493
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:45,639
Speaker 10: from the blue line. They made the play to put

1494
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:46,560
Speaker 10: the game away.

1495
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 3: That gave Vidolo two yard touchdown run. Follow that up

1496
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 3: with the Dante Jackson interception. Khalil, I'm sorry, Keishawn Williams

1497
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 3: fumbling a punt and that would be all she wrote

1498
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:03,920
Speaker 3: for your Pittsburgh Steelers last night.

1499
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 5: Twenty five to ten.

1500
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 3: They lose at so far and they come back home

1501
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:10,719
Speaker 3: five and four with their tail tuck between their legs,

1502
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 3: having to face the Bengals and Mike Tomlin's boogeyman Joe Flacco.

1503
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 10: Great offense and horrific defense coming to town, and.

1504
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 5: We are neither of those things.

1505
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 6: We're right in the middle of the.

1506
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 5: Pack in both of those things.

1507
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 6: Better be great.

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01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 3: Sunday, Abby will take us through some of the Rock

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01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 3: and Roll Hall of Fame Induction ceremony, induction speeches and performances.

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01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:36,639
Speaker 6: When we come back. Which are we focusing on here?

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01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:39,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, we're gonna pick it up with white stripes. I

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01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 7: have soundguard and queued up also Cindy Lauper.

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01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:44,680
Speaker 4: But I mean, we got a lot of favorites we

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01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 4: can get to.

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Speaker 6: Tested and listener approved. Hey, I'm enjoying today and join

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Speaker 6: the music.

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Speaker 20: Your requests are on the Electric Launch at noon with

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01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 20: Michelle Michaels on.

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Speaker 5: DVE where they.

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Speaker 21: Thro cg Aplliences. This is w Dvitzburg's.

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Speaker 1: Showing four man rush after what they'll bring Allen back

1522
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:17,639
Speaker 1: throwing on a crossing patternis a man wide open. It's

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01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:20,600
Speaker 1: Latin McConkie, and it's a touchdown for the Chargers the

1524
01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 1: twelve seconds remaining here in the first half, just a

1525
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 1: quick slant up the middle of the field. Maconzie was

1526
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 1: wide open and Herbert put it right on that.

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01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 3: Pretty much. I thought sunk our playoff hopes this year.

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01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 3: I mean, I know we're not out of mathematically, but

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Speaker 3: I think that I think so. I don't know that's

1530
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:41,599
Speaker 3: or maybe I just had sinking on the brain. Because

1531
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:43,760
Speaker 3: today is the fiftieth anniversary of the wreck of the

1532
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 3: Edmund Fitzgerald and I went down the rabbit hole. I

1533
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 3: didn't watch any of the afternoon games because I thought

1534
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 3: they were going to be all crap. Turns out, three

1535
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 3: score of Gami's in the afternoon game, Oh.

1536
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 6: Really, what scores? That have never happened?

1537
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 5: Three of them? What are the chances of that?

1538
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 3: And so I went down this rabbit hole and I

1539
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 3: shared you with you guys one of the documentaries I watched,

1540
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 3: and yeah, it was fascinating. I posted him on Twitter.

1541
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:13,639
Speaker 3: If you have any interest in that stuff, really cool stuff.

1542
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 3: Every storyline. I can't believe it's not a Hollywood movie

1543
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 3: because there's so many, like really intriguing stories about the

1544
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 3: crew and how that all went down, and even.

1545
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 6: The bad omen of the woman not being able to

1546
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 6: break the champagne bottle against the boat.

1547
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 3: Edmund Fitzgerald's wife. She couldn't crack the champagne bottle, which

1548
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 3: is bad luck.

1549
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 6: Just even learning about his history, like the fact that

1550
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 6: he was an insurance guy.

1551
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I thought it was like a war

1552
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 3: there was like a war hero. Turns out he was

1553
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 3: just like a rich guy and they're like, let's give

1554
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 3: Eddie a boat.

1555
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:49,599
Speaker 6: You know, He's like I'm gonna build the biggest boat

1556
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:50,760
Speaker 6: that anybody's ever seen.

1557
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 5: And it was it.

1558
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 3: It was so big. When they put it in the water,

1559
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 3: ten thousand people came to just watch it get pushed

1560
01:16:57,240 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 3: into the water and it hit.

1561
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 6: The other side of the thing and then came back

1562
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:02,599
Speaker 6: and a guy had a heart attack and died.

1563
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:03,599
Speaker 5: Yes, it sunk.

1564
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 3: It's like, there's so many crazy stories about that ship

1565
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:10,599
Speaker 3: that they say was like all right, started off curse,

1566
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 3: but it still made it, you know, seventeen years before

1567
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 3: it ended up.

1568
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:15,880
Speaker 4: And they ran the whole thing on a PlayStation control.

1569
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 3: But it's fascinating and anyways, I linked that there, and

1570
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 3: even the story of Gordon Lightfoot song is really fascinating.

1571
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 6: Oh yeah. And and the fact that when that that

1572
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 6: ship was first built, it had all the amenities and

1573
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 6: people would go on it and and just take trips

1574
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 6: on it, like the the Hoy Paloi.

1575
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like a it was like a carnival

1576
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 3: cruise boat in the late fifties, and they would put

1577
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 3: executives on there. They had TVs in their room, which

1578
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 3: was a big deal back then, and like oh yeah,

1579
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 3: carpeted rooms and everything, and it was like this huge attraction.

1580
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 3: I didn't know any of that stuff. No, but either

1581
01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 3: there's it's fascinating. And it was the last shipwreck on

1582
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 3: the Great Lakes. Wow, there were six thousand before it

1583
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 3: and none sense really technology man, Yeah, sonar, radar, all

1584
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:15,519
Speaker 3: of that stuff, they don't They didn't have it that day,

1585
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 3: you know. It was all of his radar was out.

1586
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 3: He didn't know where he was going, so and he

1587
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 3: probably crashed into that island. That's probably what happened. Underneath.

1588
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:25,599
Speaker 3: He got too close and they took on the water

1589
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 3: and they.

1590
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 4: Spoke to the toughness too. They're like, no, we'll be fine, don't.

1591
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 6: Worry about us.

1592
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1593
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 3: Literally the last words from the captain like, we're holding

1594
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 3: our own.

1595
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:37,600
Speaker 6: What were those locks that they traveled through and traversed

1596
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 6: from SIUs Saint Marie. Yeah, I forget what the famous locks,

1597
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:44,599
Speaker 6: but they were basically saying that they were the most

1598
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 6: guarded locks in the entire country. Because if the Germans

1599
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:53,879
Speaker 6: somehow figured out, yeah, to like destroy that that spot

1600
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:56,760
Speaker 6: and take out those locks, that we wouldn't have been

1601
01:18:56,760 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 6: able to continue to build B fifty Two's all the

1602
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 6: war machines that we were building to try to beat

1603
01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 6: the Nazis.

1604
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:05,559
Speaker 3: It's really fascinating because they were taking all the iron

1605
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 3: ore from like Duluth and taking it down to Detroit

1606
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 3: where they were building all that stuff. But the other

1607
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:13,360
Speaker 3: staff that they had, that's kind of remarkable. It's like,

1608
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 3: if you knocked out the Great Lakes Freighting, that would

1609
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 3: knock out the third biggest GDP in the world. Like,

1610
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 3: that's how much commerce is happening on that thing.

1611
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 6: It's crazy.

1612
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 3: So that had no idea either did I and the

1613
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 3: FitzGeralds was that was the granddaddy of them all.

1614
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 5: I didn't. I just thought it was a boat, you

1615
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 5: know what I mean.

1616
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:36,639
Speaker 6: I didn't know it had all of this.

1617
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 3: Lord, so I thought it was just one that went down.

1618
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 3: And then you see all the stories of the people

1619
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 3: who were on and stuff.

1620
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 6: You're like, oh man, oh yeah, the one guy's uncle,

1621
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 6: the woman's dad. Oh.

1622
01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 3: I mean, that's the other thing hearing from survivors because

1623
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 3: you think it's like such ancient history or from not survivors,

1624
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 3: but you know, the daughters of the people that perish.

1625
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:58,639
Speaker 3: And she's like, yeah, I was twelve years old and

1626
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 3: we're watching the news and Tom Brocass comes on the

1627
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:03,679
Speaker 3: news and says, there was a freighter that went down

1628
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 3: last night in the Lake Superior, the Edmund Fitzgerald.

1629
01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 5: And my mom said time time to go to bed.

1630
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:12,680
Speaker 3: You're like so like it just personalized it all all,

1631
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:16,639
Speaker 3: like oh God, now now I really have like this

1632
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:19,680
Speaker 3: like I don't know, feeling of reverence for that whole thing.

1633
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 6: I don't know what it is. Definitely, and just the

1634
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 6: fact that even as recent as Tom Brokaw, we didn't

1635
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:29,519
Speaker 6: have technology, Like there was no pictures of that ship.

1636
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:30,559
Speaker 6: It was like a drawing.

1637
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 3: Well that was Yeah, that was on the CBS when

1638
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:36,720
Speaker 3: they had it looked like like the graphic they have

1639
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:38,919
Speaker 3: behind the news for it wasn't Cronkite.

1640
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 5: I think it was Harry Reasoner and yes it was.

1641
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:44,280
Speaker 5: And he's like that ship went down last night and

1642
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 5: Lake Superior.

1643
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:48,679
Speaker 3: And behind him is a crudely drawn ship like going

1644
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:55,599
Speaker 3: like glug glug plug. Like it looked like a poster

1645
01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 3: board for a comic book.

1646
01:20:58,200 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 4: Like steamboat Willie.

1647
01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:02,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, like yeah, thirty people died.

1648
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 3: You know, you're like, well, Jesus, that's kind of heavy

1649
01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:07,639
Speaker 3: to have like a cartoon of you know, a boat

1650
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:10,799
Speaker 3: like whoah, you know, look like Looney Tunes.

1651
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 5: Almost.

1652
01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:14,799
Speaker 6: But were you surprised that there's only twenty nine people

1653
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:18,880
Speaker 6: to make a ship that size? Go, I guess yeah,

1654
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:21,760
Speaker 6: I mean just the size of that thing. They said

1655
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:24,519
Speaker 6: it was like one hundred feet long on its side.

1656
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:26,559
Speaker 6: If you turned it straight up, it would be as

1657
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 6: tall as the biggest skyscraper in Cleveland or something or yeah.

1658
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1659
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 3: I don't remember that part of it, but it was

1660
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:35,840
Speaker 3: it was deeper. It was the water was shallower than

1661
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:39,800
Speaker 3: that boat was big. It sunk in five hundred and

1662
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 3: thirty feet water, which Lake Shuperior goes to sixteen hundred

1663
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 3: feet for reference. Lake eriees like two hundred at its

1664
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:53,479
Speaker 3: deepest point. Man, that's how deep leaps Lake Shapier is.

1665
01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 6: It's crazy.

1666
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 3: Anyways, there's you can just go on YouTube and go

1667
01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 3: down the rabbit hole if you want to, cause it's

1668
01:21:57,840 --> 01:21:58,360
Speaker 3: really fun.

1669
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 5: I never knew any of that stuff. And I bet you'll.

1670
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:05,320
Speaker 6: Hear that song a few times this weekend or this week.

1671
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:08,120
Speaker 3: But I'm shocked if Billy Strings didn't play it on

1672
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:10,759
Speaker 3: Saturday night at PPG Paints Arena, because he has played

1673
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 3: it before and just kills it. And he's not playing tonight,

1674
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 3: which is the day of the ship sunk, so I

1675
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:19,120
Speaker 3: would have thought we would have got that on Saturday night,

1676
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 3: but mattered not because that was one of the greatest

1677
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 3: shows I've ever seen. And I just got to tell

1678
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:28,480
Speaker 3: you go see Billy Strings if you like just musicianship,

1679
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 3: you don't even have to like bluegrass or jam grass

1680
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:36,799
Speaker 3: or whatever. Him his abilities and his band is unlike

1681
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:39,559
Speaker 3: anything I've ever seen. They are so tight and they

1682
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 3: have so many killer ideas that they execute at an

1683
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 3: expert level. And he's always been a badass guitar player,

1684
01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:47,800
Speaker 3: but his singing now is like he might be one

1685
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 3: of the best singers bluegrass and his band is. The

1686
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 3: harmonies are pitch perfect, they are incredible. It was so

1687
01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:00,559
Speaker 3: fun and it will never not make me laugh. How

1688
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 3: many balloons are just filling up outside the PBG Pants

1689
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:06,439
Speaker 3: arena and that operation, Man, that is impressive.

1690
01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 6: They got lookouts.

1691
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 3: Going, and you know they're around the corner like they

1692
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:14,560
Speaker 3: were down by the Super Bowl wherever you needed to

1693
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 3: get balloons.

1694
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 6: They were all over the place, a bunch of fifty

1695
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 6: year olds looking like they're in the movie Up.

1696
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, yes, no doubt about it. And they were

1697
01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 3: definitely up and an amazing show. I'm sad I miss

1698
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 3: Friday Night after that?

1699
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:30,840
Speaker 6: Can I ask you a question about billy strings? How

1700
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 6: because I don't understand jamming and bluegrass enough. How can

1701
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 6: you be like a jam band guy and also be tight?

1702
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 5: Well that's the key. When you're not, you're a mess.

1703
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:48,839
Speaker 6: You know. It's like jazz basically same principles, like inside

1704
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:51,640
Speaker 6: the structure, but there's a definite structure.

1705
01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 3: And then you just kind of have to know when

1706
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:55,800
Speaker 3: you're coming out of the free form part into the

1707
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 3: Caudi five part, like here's the structure part, and you

1708
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 3: all have to hit that cue. And it can be

1709
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:03,800
Speaker 3: as simple as sometimes that they're just nodding to each other.

1710
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:06,640
Speaker 3: Sometimes they just understand that it's hit the crescendo and

1711
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 3: it's time for it to like go right back into that.

1712
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 3: And that's the tension and release that makes people love

1713
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 3: that kind of music because.

1714
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:16,680
Speaker 6: You get lost in it and then all of a

1715
01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:19,560
Speaker 6: sudden you're like, can you get your way back? Exactly?

1716
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:21,679
Speaker 3: You're kind of rooting for him, like where's he going?

1717
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:23,320
Speaker 3: How's this going to get back there? And when they

1718
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:25,599
Speaker 3: pull it off, you're like, oh, that was a great journey.

1719
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 6: That was fun.

1720
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:27,360
Speaker 22: Ye yes.

1721
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 3: Anyways, Abby's got some updates for you here on the

1722
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 3: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction ceremonies, And.

1723
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 7: Is this hour brought to you by Wind Donation Clouds

1724
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:36,639
Speaker 7: with a couple of snowshowers, and I have thirty nine today.

1725
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 4: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame held its fortieth induction.

1726
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:42,519
Speaker 7: Ceremony on Saturday night in Los Angeles and reminded. To

1727
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:45,200
Speaker 7: be eligible for nomination, artists are required to have really

1728
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 7: released their first record twenty five years prior to induction.

1729
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:51,440
Speaker 7: So this year it was Bad Company, Joe Cocker, Soundgarden,

1730
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 7: Cindy Lapper, The White Stripes, Chuggy Chubby, Chuggy Checker, Chuggy

1731
01:24:56,479 --> 01:24:59,559
Speaker 7: Hubby Checker and Outcasts, which, by the way, I saw

1732
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:02,240
Speaker 7: like nothing on Chubby Checker.

1733
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:03,639
Speaker 5: Well, who wants to do the twist?

1734
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 6: That's what I mean.

1735
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:05,920
Speaker 4: Is like I saw like no.

1736
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:09,680
Speaker 3: Recap of him whatsoever. Well, he's a fraud and he

1737
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 3: should have never got in the end and.

1738
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:12,559
Speaker 6: We're done there.

1739
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:14,479
Speaker 5: That's Domino, that's it.

1740
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:17,759
Speaker 3: No Chubby Checker, the guy literally stole a name, didn't

1741
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 3: do It's his zero contribution other than somebody wrote a

1742
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 3: hit for him.

1743
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:23,879
Speaker 5: Anyways, I still would.

1744
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 6: Have loved to have seen Husky Tittley winks Inductor.

1745
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 7: Last hour, we already talked about Warren Zevon and we

1746
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:36,840
Speaker 7: were getting into the white stripes. Meg White did not

1747
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 7: go to the ceremony. She really has not been seen

1748
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:45,160
Speaker 7: in public for about fifteen years. But their induction was

1749
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 7: by Iggy Pop, who is a fellow Michigan Rock and

1750
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:53,679
Speaker 7: Roll Hall of Fame member himself, and actually he kind

1751
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 7: of did what we were all thinking whenever he started

1752
01:25:57,800 --> 01:25:58,639
Speaker 7: his speech.

1753
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:01,880
Speaker 6: I got it, get this out of my system.

1754
01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:04,560
Speaker 11: Don't don't don't, don't, don't.

1755
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:05,599
Speaker 2: Du du.

1756
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:12,720
Speaker 11: Do do?

1757
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 4: I love Iggy Pop is just like tell me of

1758
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 4: ADHD was telling you, or.

1759
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:24,080
Speaker 3: Jack White doesn't get any better than Iggy Pop introducing him.

1760
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:28,439
Speaker 4: That's absolutely perfect. Jack had a great speech.

1761
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:31,599
Speaker 7: It's a little long here, but I kind of figured

1762
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:34,720
Speaker 7: he was going to speak to the artists of today, to.

1763
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:35,400
Speaker 6: The young artists.

1764
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 18: I want to say, get your hands dirty and drop

1765
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:38,920
Speaker 18: the screens.

1766
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 6: And get out in your garage or your little room

1767
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 6: and get obsessed.

1768
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:45,720
Speaker 5: Get obsessed with something you.

1769
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:48,760
Speaker 6: Know, get passing it. We all want to share in

1770
01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:49,599
Speaker 6: what you might create.

1771
01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:54,400
Speaker 18: Lastly, I was gonna send this to meg, but I

1772
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:55,400
Speaker 18: didn't get around.

1773
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:57,400
Speaker 6: To it, so I thought i'd read it to you

1774
01:26:57,400 --> 01:26:57,880
Speaker 6: all tonight.

1775
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:01,639
Speaker 18: One time a girl climbed tree, and in that tree

1776
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:05,280
Speaker 18: was a boy, her brother, she thought, And the tree

1777
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 18: looked so glorious and beautiful, but it was just an

1778
01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 18: oak tree. And these two so loved the world that

1779
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:14,280
Speaker 18: they brought forth a parade float, one they built in

1780
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:17,280
Speaker 18: their garage behind the oak tree with their own bare hands.

1781
01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:20,519
Speaker 18: And the boy looked at this giant pepperman on wheels

1782
01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 18: and felt pride, pride that it was produced in the

1783
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:26,760
Speaker 18: motor city, just like in the big factories.

1784
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 6: But it was just in their garage.

1785
01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 9: He looked at the girl, his sister, he thought, and like.

1786
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 18: The little rascals, they said, let's put on a show.

1787
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:40,080
Speaker 18: And they paraded this float through the cast corridor, standing

1788
01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:44,040
Speaker 18: atop the peppermint, pulled by white horses, or maybe it

1789
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:47,360
Speaker 18: was a ready connoline van. And many of the blocks

1790
01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 18: they traveled were empty, but some had people, and some

1791
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 18: of those people cheered, and some laughed, and some even

1792
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:55,799
Speaker 18: threw stones.

1793
01:27:57,240 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 6: And with their bare.

1794
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:00,320
Speaker 18: Hands, the two started to clap and sing and make

1795
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:05,000
Speaker 18: up songs, and some people kept watching and swaying and moving,

1796
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:08,600
Speaker 18: and then one person even smiled, and the boy and

1797
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:10,839
Speaker 18: the girl looked at each other, and they also smiled,

1798
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:15,080
Speaker 18: and they felt they both felt the sin of pride.

1799
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:18,799
Speaker 18: What they kept on smiling, smiling from a new freedom,

1800
01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:22,080
Speaker 18: knowing that they had shared and made another person feel something.

1801
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:26,320
Speaker 18: And they thought the person smiling at them was a stranger,

1802
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:30,439
Speaker 18: someone they didn't even know. But it wasn't just a stranger.

1803
01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:34,080
Speaker 18: It was God, my sister. Thanks you, and I thank you,

1804
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:35,200
Speaker 18: thank you all very much.

1805
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:37,920
Speaker 3: It had been funny if he'd been like And then

1806
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:40,919
Speaker 3: an hour down the road, two other boys in Akron

1807
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 3: completely copied everything that.

1808
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:49,559
Speaker 6: They also build a peppermin colored it black and thought

1809
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:50,680
Speaker 6: it was different.

1810
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:52,120
Speaker 4: But it wasn't.

1811
01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:55,160
Speaker 3: And then they sold all their songs.

1812
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:58,600
Speaker 4: And then they went to the same school.

1813
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:07,160
Speaker 6: Nashville after I did. They've been following me alive. That

1814
01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:09,679
Speaker 6: was beautiful, though, Man, that's like that's a children's book.

1815
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 6: He should publish that. He's good at stuff like that.

1816
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:14,719
Speaker 6: I mean, Jack White, I think is a true artist.

1817
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:18,880
Speaker 3: I think that his appreciation of Meg has been great

1818
01:29:18,920 --> 01:29:21,800
Speaker 3: post whit whites stripes. I don't know how what the

1819
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:24,200
Speaker 3: dynamic was like when they were together. I don't know

1820
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:28,719
Speaker 3: how well they got along and how, you know, because

1821
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:32,200
Speaker 3: it's it must have been hard to get divorced, yeah,

1822
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:33,800
Speaker 3: and then be in a band together, and I don't

1823
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:34,679
Speaker 3: know how amicable.

1824
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:35,880
Speaker 5: Sometimes that's not hard.

1825
01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:37,800
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's like we both agree that this is what

1826
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:41,040
Speaker 3: needs to happen and we should be friends. But I

1827
01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 3: don't know anything about Meg other than it seems like

1828
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:46,679
Speaker 3: she has just been terrified to speak.

1829
01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:50,160
Speaker 4: Seems like it's by design that we don't know anything about.

1830
01:29:50,200 --> 01:29:50,880
Speaker 5: Its probably better.

1831
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, and Jack famously does seem to stay friends with

1832
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:58,240
Speaker 7: his exes. He's, you know, very famous for having that

1833
01:29:58,400 --> 01:29:59,880
Speaker 7: divorce party with Karen Ell.

1834
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:00,760
Speaker 5: That's right.

1835
01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:05,479
Speaker 4: He's doing tiktoks with her now, and they're very.

1836
01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:07,280
Speaker 5: Real well their parents, right, yeah, their.

1837
01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:09,240
Speaker 4: Parents, and so they do tiktoks with their daughter.

1838
01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:11,920
Speaker 7: Sometimes she did a walk at a fashion show and

1839
01:30:11,960 --> 01:30:14,160
Speaker 7: they were doing like tiktoks with her and everything. So

1840
01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:19,000
Speaker 7: it seems like he's very pro stang being an adult,

1841
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:22,439
Speaker 7: how about it? Everybody now? Providing the musical tribute to

1842
01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:25,479
Speaker 7: the White Stripes were Olivia Rodrigo and Feist.

1843
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:28,080
Speaker 4: They actually did an acoustic version of We're going to

1844
01:30:28,120 --> 01:30:31,640
Speaker 4: be Friends. We all notice anything.

1845
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:37,040
Speaker 22: We said by son every close.

1846
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:38,280
Speaker 6: This is great.

1847
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:52,920
Speaker 23: Teacher thinks I sound funny, but she silly thoughts go

1848
01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 23: through mine.

1849
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:55,360
Speaker 4: About the books.

1850
01:30:55,640 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 22: Enough of it away, tomorro you we love to I

1851
01:31:10,720 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 22: can't tell.

1852
01:31:19,240 --> 01:31:21,920
Speaker 4: I already liked Olivia Robbie and I love Feist.

1853
01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:24,799
Speaker 6: I know her. That really got me to do Olivia.

1854
01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:26,920
Speaker 14: I love.

1855
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:32,440
Speaker 3: She's like Canadian cat power, cat power, Yes, that's yeah,

1856
01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:37,480
Speaker 3: but she's Feist. Is when the lead singer of tragically

1857
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:41,800
Speaker 3: Hip died the first show they did with you know,

1858
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:47,160
Speaker 3: the surviving members, Feist sang for them like she's well

1859
01:31:47,200 --> 01:31:50,840
Speaker 3: regarded in Canada. She had that song you definitely know

1860
01:31:50,880 --> 01:32:01,439
Speaker 3: that's something. Oh you know it a little bit more,

1861
01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:02,160
Speaker 3: you faster.

1862
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:07,719
Speaker 4: And then also this was a big moment.

1863
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:12,280
Speaker 6: Put your hand in your mouth, spetcher head like a monkey.

1864
01:32:13,040 --> 01:32:20,479
Speaker 6: I'll get out through the dance their pants. I'm getting it.

1865
01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:27,720
Speaker 6: Take my hands off, all right.

1866
01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:29,439
Speaker 4: And then this is a big moment of the night.

1867
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:33,560
Speaker 7: Twenty one pilots had their take on seven Nation Army.

1868
01:32:34,040 --> 01:32:37,879
Speaker 6: All the worlds for me, I will think.

1869
01:32:37,800 --> 01:32:43,280
Speaker 3: No more vocally, damn dead nuts any stage.

1870
01:32:43,439 --> 01:32:50,120
Speaker 6: Tuma, tell me come back.

1871
01:33:25,160 --> 01:33:32,240
Speaker 7: March Yeah, do something different with it. I mean show

1872
01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:34,400
Speaker 7: Jack White that you kind of took his speech to

1873
01:33:34,439 --> 01:33:36,479
Speaker 7: heart and get obsessed with something, and you know.

1874
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:40,040
Speaker 3: I I do like that, get obsessed with something. And

1875
01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:43,439
Speaker 3: there aren't they from Columbus. They are so that nice

1876
01:33:43,479 --> 01:33:46,680
Speaker 3: little tie in again, why not staying you know, in

1877
01:33:46,720 --> 01:33:49,120
Speaker 3: the Midwest there, Yeah.

1878
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:50,240
Speaker 4: I do want to get to Soundgarden.

1879
01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:52,599
Speaker 7: I feel like that was one of the big marquee

1880
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:55,639
Speaker 7: things of the evening. Third band from Seattle's grunge scene

1881
01:33:55,680 --> 01:33:59,479
Speaker 7: to be inducted, following Nirvana and Pearl Jam.

1882
01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:01,200
Speaker 4: We still need to get to Alison Chains.

1883
01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:01,840
Speaker 6: Where are you, Buddy?

1884
01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:06,799
Speaker 7: We'll get there at some point, but they've been eligible

1885
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:12,320
Speaker 7: since twenty thirteen, so this year. Matt Cameron, by the way,

1886
01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:14,960
Speaker 7: also is already in uh because he's in with Pearl Jam.

1887
01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:20,360
Speaker 7: But alongside Cameron, their original bassist Heiro Yamamoto got in.

1888
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:24,360
Speaker 7: His permanent replacement, Ben Sheppard got in, Kim Sale, and

1889
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:26,639
Speaker 7: then of course their late singer Chris Cornell. But Jim

1890
01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:31,040
Speaker 7: Carrey gave the induction speech and I thought he actually

1891
01:34:31,080 --> 01:34:33,439
Speaker 7: it was an odd choice in one regard, but he

1892
01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:34,759
Speaker 7: did an amazing speech.

1893
01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:40,160
Speaker 24: That track was the ultimate example of Chris Cornell's prolific songwriting,

1894
01:34:40,520 --> 01:34:43,280
Speaker 24: it felt like he had given us an all access

1895
01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:49,120
Speaker 24: pass to some monumental apocalyptic dream he was having. He

1896
01:34:49,160 --> 01:34:52,840
Speaker 24: had a deeply authentic presence. When you looked into his eyes,

1897
01:34:52,920 --> 01:34:57,960
Speaker 24: it was like Eternity was staring back sadly on a

1898
01:34:58,000 --> 01:35:03,559
Speaker 24: shocking night. In two thous seventeen, Chris left us. We

1899
01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:09,000
Speaker 24: lost a very special being, a monumental musical artist and

1900
01:35:09,040 --> 01:35:13,800
Speaker 24: an inspired innovator. But for all time his voice will

1901
01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:17,800
Speaker 24: continue to light up the ether like a Tesla coil an.

1902
01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:18,320
Speaker 4: I apologize.

1903
01:35:18,360 --> 01:35:19,800
Speaker 7: He was talking about Black Hole Son when he was

1904
01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:21,639
Speaker 7: saying that track, so he was talking about that being

1905
01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:23,599
Speaker 7: like a way of really looking into Chris cornell soul,

1906
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:26,120
Speaker 7: which again, that's an incredible song and maybe one of

1907
01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:30,920
Speaker 7: the most iconic in their catalog, Taylor Momson, which oddly enough,

1908
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:33,320
Speaker 7: Jim Carrey played opposite in the Branch.

1909
01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:36,360
Speaker 4: She was Cindy lu who she is now in the band.

1910
01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:39,160
Speaker 7: The Pretty Reckless and this is a little snippet of

1911
01:35:39,160 --> 01:35:42,200
Speaker 7: her singing Rusty Cage and it also had Pearl Jims

1912
01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:43,759
Speaker 7: Mike McCready on guitar.

1913
01:35:51,120 --> 01:36:11,080
Speaker 4: Okay, her voice is so freaking cool.

1914
01:36:13,320 --> 01:36:15,320
Speaker 7: This one I love though I hope that sounds a

1915
01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:18,679
Speaker 7: little bit better on this one. Taylor is also on

1916
01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:22,800
Speaker 7: this one, but Brandy Carlyle and this was like a

1917
01:36:22,840 --> 01:36:25,360
Speaker 7: record store day thing that happened where she did black

1918
01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:29,200
Speaker 7: Hole Sun. Alison Chain's guitarist Jerry Contrell is on this

1919
01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:33,920
Speaker 7: and also hero Yamamoto is also performing as well.

1920
01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:34,360
Speaker 4: But take a.

1921
01:36:34,280 --> 01:37:38,280
Speaker 7: Listen, stupid like I love her. I love her too.

1922
01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:42,479
Speaker 7: She's on my list of artists to see. But the

1923
01:37:43,080 --> 01:37:47,479
Speaker 7: I mean very heart tugging moment as well. Tony Cornell,

1924
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:52,360
Speaker 7: which is Chris's daughter, came out to do fell on

1925
01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:55,960
Speaker 7: Black Days and this was with Heart's Nancy Wilson on

1926
01:37:56,120 --> 01:37:58,519
Speaker 7: acoustic guitar, and then they also had a cellist on

1927
01:37:58,640 --> 01:38:00,400
Speaker 7: stage of c.

1928
01:38:02,600 --> 01:38:03,679
Speaker 22: Sick can.

1929
01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:18,320
Speaker 4: Doom Soever purcha so so they say I can't see

1930
01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:20,360
Speaker 4: it in the next.

1931
01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:30,760
Speaker 23: Sat Mucketa.

1932
01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:34,120
Speaker 5: Wow.

1933
01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:37,120
Speaker 4: A lot of really good stuff from the ceremony.

1934
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:39,920
Speaker 7: It is available to stream on Disney Plus and Hulu

1935
01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:41,960
Speaker 7: and then ABC is also going to air a condensed

1936
01:38:42,040 --> 01:38:44,559
Speaker 7: version on January first. Some of the things that we

1937
01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:47,120
Speaker 7: didn't get to this hour, maybe we can get to

1938
01:38:47,160 --> 01:38:52,599
Speaker 7: it tomorrow. Joe Cocker Tribute, which had just amazing people,

1939
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:58,439
Speaker 7: Tedesky Trucks Teddy Swims, Chris Robinson was on that really

1940
01:38:58,479 --> 01:39:02,880
Speaker 7: good stuff from Cindy Lapper, the Bad Company stuff. And

1941
01:39:03,040 --> 01:39:05,480
Speaker 7: also I really actually like what they did with outcasts.

1942
01:39:05,479 --> 01:39:07,560
Speaker 7: They had a bunch of people jump up. Janelle monated

1943
01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:10,880
Speaker 7: some stuff. So we can kind of table that for

1944
01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:12,599
Speaker 7: tomorrow because I know we got a lot of Steelers

1945
01:39:12,600 --> 01:39:13,120
Speaker 7: talk to get to.

1946
01:39:13,200 --> 01:39:15,679
Speaker 3: But we do like joining us in just a little

1947
01:39:15,680 --> 01:39:19,320
Speaker 3: bit here live what we have him or not?

1948
01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:21,439
Speaker 5: You I thought you were doing the no.

1949
01:39:22,040 --> 01:39:25,559
Speaker 3: Just hi, Randy, Hey Jacobs, We're just glad you got

1950
01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:27,280
Speaker 3: home from Penn State in one piece without getting your

1951
01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:29,840
Speaker 3: arse beat wearing all that Indiana gear.

1952
01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:30,600
Speaker 5: How how was that?

1953
01:39:30,600 --> 01:39:31,280
Speaker 6: By the way? Great?

1954
01:39:31,439 --> 01:39:32,920
Speaker 25: And I was just scratching my head in my bad

1955
01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:36,080
Speaker 25: I mean that, but yeah, it was a great weekend.

1956
01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:40,479
Speaker 25: It would no confrontations you stayed. Would have would have

1957
01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:43,320
Speaker 25: been a tough ride home had the game gone in

1958
01:39:43,360 --> 01:39:47,720
Speaker 25: the other way.

1959
01:39:45,760 --> 01:39:51,280
Speaker 3: Because for the record, Jacobs, and are you grad Yeah,

1960
01:39:51,439 --> 01:39:53,719
Speaker 3: most of our listeners would be more Penn State leaning,

1961
01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:55,920
Speaker 3: just in case they didn't know, because they're like, what

1962
01:39:55,920 --> 01:39:57,400
Speaker 3: do you mean it didn't go to the right Yeah,

1963
01:39:57,600 --> 01:40:00,360
Speaker 3: like it went the wrong way, And.

1964
01:40:00,320 --> 01:40:02,200
Speaker 6: They waited until the end of the game with the

1965
01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:05,280
Speaker 6: best catch that's ever been made to pull off the victory.

1966
01:40:04,960 --> 01:40:08,080
Speaker 5: And the Gus Johnson call, the Gus Johnson call.

1967
01:40:08,280 --> 01:40:12,920
Speaker 25: Oh my god, this is apoplectic, but draft that the

1968
01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:16,720
Speaker 25: whole fourth quarter, I mean luckily, I mean I know

1969
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:18,799
Speaker 25: some people are off of Gush Johnson.

1970
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:20,800
Speaker 3: I wasn't able to hear him because I was at

1971
01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:21,080
Speaker 3: the game.

1972
01:40:21,160 --> 01:40:24,839
Speaker 5: Well here it is, Bendza.

1973
01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:38,439
Speaker 1: Drove it out.

1974
01:40:40,880 --> 01:40:42,679
Speaker 6: Sounds like a drunk Harry carry.

1975
01:40:45,800 --> 01:40:47,840
Speaker 3: Michael, have the full sports port for Oh no, I'm sorry,

1976
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Speaker 3: Jered next, and then we'll talk with Mike and Rob

1977
01:40:49,760 --> 01:40:52,479
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1978
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1988
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1989
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1990
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1992
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Speaker 3: for a quote today. Jerry Doulac from the Steelers Audio

1993
01:41:41,840 --> 01:41:44,800
Speaker 3: Network joining us right now from Los Angeles. Jerry uh

1994
01:41:45,240 --> 01:41:47,719
Speaker 3: coach Tomlin didn't even want to step up to defend

1995
01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:51,240
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers game last night. That's how poorly the veteran

1996
01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:52,880
Speaker 3: play caller played last night.

1997
01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:56,759
Speaker 16: Yeah, when he was asked, you know, what did you think, basically,

1998
01:41:56,840 --> 01:41:58,559
Speaker 16: what did you think of his performance? He said, what

1999
01:41:58,600 --> 01:42:02,320
Speaker 16: did you think? Can? Yeah, obviously he didn't play well.

2000
01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:04,880
Speaker 16: You know, that was that was one of his worst

2001
01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:07,720
Speaker 16: performances actually in a long time. I mean, I think

2002
01:42:07,720 --> 01:42:10,639
Speaker 16: his completion percentage was the worst since twenty twenty one.

2003
01:42:11,640 --> 01:42:15,120
Speaker 16: You know, it was as his passer rating was the

2004
01:42:15,200 --> 01:42:19,840
Speaker 16: lowest sense a game last season with the Jets, and yeah,

2005
01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:22,880
Speaker 16: it wasn't it wasn't very good. And you know he

2006
01:42:22,960 --> 01:42:24,960
Speaker 16: ends up with what one hundred and sixty one yards

2007
01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:28,120
Speaker 16: and sixty five came on that final possession. So yeah,

2008
01:42:28,120 --> 01:42:30,960
Speaker 16: it was pretty anemic. There's no question about it. Overthrowing

2009
01:42:31,640 --> 01:42:33,880
Speaker 16: game well out in the flat you know, and then

2010
01:42:33,880 --> 01:42:36,439
Speaker 16: it's the poor either call or decision to throw at

2011
01:42:36,479 --> 01:42:40,080
Speaker 16: the DK metcalf and it was double covered down from

2012
01:42:40,120 --> 01:42:41,600
Speaker 16: the four or six or.

2013
01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:42,240
Speaker 2: Wherever they were.

2014
01:42:42,439 --> 01:42:45,759
Speaker 16: And yeah, it was certainly wasn't a game of highlights,

2015
01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:46,320
Speaker 16: that's for sure.

2016
01:42:46,640 --> 01:42:50,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's tough to criticize play calling when nothing

2017
01:42:50,680 --> 01:42:53,080
Speaker 3: seems to be working right, because how do you know

2018
01:42:53,160 --> 01:42:58,040
Speaker 3: anything's gonna work correctly? But I just can't understand why

2019
01:42:58,080 --> 01:43:01,479
Speaker 3: they don't try to win on the back of Jalen

2020
01:43:01,479 --> 01:43:04,599
Speaker 3: Warren first, and they did three and out with three

2021
01:43:04,640 --> 01:43:08,200
Speaker 3: throws to begin the game after the horaspeed false start,

2022
01:43:08,880 --> 01:43:12,160
Speaker 3: and it just baffles me because he's the one guy

2023
01:43:12,479 --> 01:43:17,160
Speaker 3: who just seems like there's desperation in every play for

2024
01:43:17,320 --> 01:43:17,920
Speaker 3: Jalen Warren.

2025
01:43:19,200 --> 01:43:21,640
Speaker 16: You know, yeah, you're right about that, Randall. And you know,

2026
01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:25,639
Speaker 16: we saw them start last week with three passes and

2027
01:43:25,720 --> 01:43:30,479
Speaker 16: I'll go back to the was it there the Green

2028
01:43:30,520 --> 01:43:32,519
Speaker 16: Bay game where they were running the ball well in

2029
01:43:32,560 --> 01:43:34,320
Speaker 16: the first half. They come out to start of the

2030
01:43:34,400 --> 01:43:37,200
Speaker 16: second half, you know, it's their leading sixteen to seven,

2031
01:43:37,240 --> 01:43:40,240
Speaker 16: and they throw three straight passes and and you know

2032
01:43:40,360 --> 01:43:44,639
Speaker 16: the same thing again, And I mean, you know, our

2033
01:43:44,680 --> 01:43:47,040
Speaker 16: teams just loading the box right off the bat. I'll

2034
01:43:47,040 --> 01:43:49,719
Speaker 16: be honest, I don't sit there and watch to see, Okay,

2035
01:43:49,760 --> 01:43:51,960
Speaker 16: are they loading the box for these first couple of plays,

2036
01:43:52,240 --> 01:43:55,040
Speaker 16: because I don't expect them to do that, come out

2037
01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:57,840
Speaker 16: and throw like that. But I mean, I understand you

2038
01:43:57,920 --> 01:44:01,760
Speaker 16: want to be aggressive, but that's that's overly aggressive, way

2039
01:44:01,800 --> 01:44:02,679
Speaker 16: too early in the game.

2040
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:04,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know.

2041
01:44:04,240 --> 01:44:06,360
Speaker 16: But Jalen Warren just I mean, he just proves time

2042
01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:09,400
Speaker 16: and again he's you know, he's kind of he's a

2043
01:44:09,439 --> 01:44:10,040
Speaker 16: beast in there.

2044
01:44:10,040 --> 01:44:10,240
Speaker 20: Boy.

2045
01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:12,479
Speaker 16: He makes a lot of plays, whether it's you know,

2046
01:44:12,920 --> 01:44:13,439
Speaker 16: catching the.

2047
01:44:13,400 --> 01:44:14,880
Speaker 2: Ball or running the ball.

2048
01:44:14,920 --> 01:44:16,680
Speaker 16: And he didn't have a lot of success early, but

2049
01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:20,120
Speaker 16: they got it going and yeh, he's been He's the

2050
01:44:20,160 --> 01:44:21,360
Speaker 16: one guy who's been very very good.

2051
01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:21,920
Speaker 3: Question.

2052
01:44:22,200 --> 01:44:23,160
Speaker 6: It is head scratching.

2053
01:44:23,200 --> 01:44:25,479
Speaker 10: You look at that stat sheet and there's uggly numbers

2054
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:29,880
Speaker 10: all across the board except Jalen Warren. Fourteen carries seventy

2055
01:44:29,960 --> 01:44:33,320
Speaker 10: yards five point zero average, and the team averaged four

2056
01:44:33,320 --> 01:44:36,360
Speaker 10: point six on the ground on sixteen carries. Now, they'll

2057
01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:38,880
Speaker 10: always tell you why we didn't convert third downs. No,

2058
01:44:39,080 --> 01:44:42,640
Speaker 10: maybe run more on first and second down. Maybe that

2059
01:44:42,760 --> 01:44:43,160
Speaker 10: fixes it.

2060
01:44:43,200 --> 01:44:43,559
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2061
01:44:43,600 --> 01:44:45,280
Speaker 10: That's something they got to get to the bottom of.

2062
01:44:45,360 --> 01:44:47,400
Speaker 10: It's not the only thing, but it's something.

2063
01:44:49,560 --> 01:44:53,040
Speaker 16: Yeah, Mike, and you know fourteen that you know, professes

2064
01:44:53,120 --> 01:44:55,439
Speaker 16: to be, you know, to want to run the ball,

2065
01:44:55,520 --> 01:44:57,880
Speaker 16: and so then when they do run the ball, but

2066
01:44:58,680 --> 01:45:00,960
Speaker 16: you know, I'll just go backward. When they brought Aaron

2067
01:45:01,040 --> 01:45:05,879
Speaker 16: Rodgers in, you know, I like to use Parry Bradshaw's

2068
01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:07,960
Speaker 16: old line. You know, Rogers isn't a maleman. He's a

2069
01:45:07,960 --> 01:45:11,040
Speaker 16: gunslinger and he's going to throw the football. Unfortunately, he

2070
01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:13,920
Speaker 16: didn't throw it very well last night. And you know

2071
01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:15,960
Speaker 16: that's two games in the row. Now for the offense,

2072
01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:19,479
Speaker 16: you know, it's just pretty anemic. Look, they were lucky

2073
01:45:19,560 --> 01:45:21,799
Speaker 16: last week. They got a short field into their credit.

2074
01:45:21,880 --> 01:45:25,880
Speaker 16: They converted those turnovers, those takeaways into touchdowns. But you

2075
01:45:25,920 --> 01:45:28,920
Speaker 16: know they had their offensive production was a kneemic last week,

2076
01:45:28,920 --> 01:45:31,120
Speaker 16: and it was even worse this week.

2077
01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:34,360
Speaker 6: He's also old like us, Jair. Is it as simple

2078
01:45:34,400 --> 01:45:36,920
Speaker 6: as the sky doesn't like playing night games. I mean,

2079
01:45:37,000 --> 01:45:39,960
Speaker 6: it's bedtime and all of a sudden we're kicking the

2080
01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:40,439
Speaker 6: ball off.

2081
01:45:43,080 --> 01:45:45,960
Speaker 16: You know, Billy, what I'm worried about too, is you know,

2082
01:45:46,040 --> 01:45:50,160
Speaker 16: you saw this with Brett Faub you know late in

2083
01:45:50,200 --> 01:45:52,840
Speaker 16: his career that when you got the cold weather games. Now, look,

2084
01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:56,160
Speaker 16: he's certainly accustomed to that playing in Green Bay, but

2085
01:45:56,280 --> 01:45:58,240
Speaker 16: not when he was aged forty two, and he's going

2086
01:45:58,240 --> 01:46:01,120
Speaker 16: to be forty two in December, and uh, you know

2087
01:46:01,160 --> 01:46:04,400
Speaker 16: that it becomes it that it becomes another ballgame. There

2088
01:46:04,640 --> 01:46:10,000
Speaker 16: is uh, you know, handling, handling the cold weather when

2089
01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:13,360
Speaker 16: you're older. Anybody who's older gets it tougher it.

2090
01:46:13,280 --> 01:46:14,360
Speaker 6: Is to get moving.

2091
01:46:14,439 --> 01:46:19,120
Speaker 16: But well, you know there tall you know, Mike Commins

2092
01:46:19,160 --> 01:46:23,000
Speaker 16: record in October, in November is pretty darn good, but

2093
01:46:23,240 --> 01:46:26,280
Speaker 16: so far not the case. Losing three to the last four.

2094
01:46:26,600 --> 01:46:28,360
Speaker 16: I say take them off prime time.

2095
01:46:28,280 --> 01:46:29,679
Speaker 6: Prime time. That's what I'm saying.

2096
01:46:30,880 --> 01:46:36,040
Speaker 3: Three games now considered that them go back, go back

2097
01:46:36,120 --> 01:46:36,719
Speaker 3: five weeks.

2098
01:46:36,720 --> 01:46:39,280
Speaker 2: They are not against against the league.

2099
01:46:40,320 --> 01:46:42,479
Speaker 6: Go ahead, Jerry, I'm just.

2100
01:46:42,400 --> 01:46:44,240
Speaker 16: Going to say the rest of the leagues looking at

2101
01:46:44,280 --> 01:46:46,400
Speaker 16: them in primetime ago, they ain't very good.

2102
01:46:46,960 --> 01:46:51,120
Speaker 3: No, But to your point about Aaron Rodgers five weeks

2103
01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:54,240
Speaker 3: ago against the Browns one passer rating against the Bengals

2104
01:46:54,240 --> 01:47:00,679
Speaker 3: one O, three Packers, one O one, Colts Chargers fifth. Now,

2105
01:47:00,760 --> 01:47:03,320
Speaker 3: I don't think the next one drops the zero. But

2106
01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:08,160
Speaker 3: these performances were slowly sliding downward. Last night was an

2107
01:47:08,200 --> 01:47:09,120
Speaker 3: abysmal one.

2108
01:47:09,439 --> 01:47:12,200
Speaker 6: But the Bengals defense is just what the doctor ordered.

2109
01:47:12,439 --> 01:47:13,719
Speaker 5: Let's hope that's right.

2110
01:47:15,360 --> 01:47:17,559
Speaker 3: They have been putting up a lot of points, though

2111
01:47:17,560 --> 01:47:19,719
Speaker 3: they had that they're coming off a bye two weeks

2112
01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:22,519
Speaker 3: ago they lost. They scored forty two points against the

2113
01:47:22,600 --> 01:47:23,920
Speaker 3: Bears and lost.

2114
01:47:26,479 --> 01:47:29,439
Speaker 16: Yeah, and to Billy's point, that's probably the best thing

2115
01:47:29,439 --> 01:47:31,840
Speaker 16: for their offenses playing the Bengals defense. But if they

2116
01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:35,800
Speaker 16: go lay an egg this week against that defense, you know,

2117
01:47:35,920 --> 01:47:37,840
Speaker 16: then then you're going to start to worry. Look, I

2118
01:47:37,840 --> 01:47:40,840
Speaker 16: didn't see too many open receivers yesterday. I'm certainly not

2119
01:47:41,040 --> 01:47:44,160
Speaker 16: laying the blame there, but just the whole way around it,

2120
01:47:44,160 --> 01:47:47,240
Speaker 16: it just it wasn't very good. Other than Jalen Warren,

2121
01:47:47,400 --> 01:47:49,400
Speaker 16: you know, Pat Fryarmouth proves to be the one guy

2122
01:47:49,400 --> 01:47:51,759
Speaker 16: who can make plays. And as crazy as it sounds,

2123
01:47:51,800 --> 01:47:54,240
Speaker 16: the most productive receiver they've had in terms of scoring

2124
01:47:54,280 --> 01:47:59,800
Speaker 16: has been Roman Wilson, and so, you know, it just

2125
01:48:00,520 --> 01:48:03,600
Speaker 16: it just was discombobulated from the start, and that's the

2126
01:48:03,640 --> 01:48:05,479
Speaker 16: way they looked. They I don't want to say they

2127
01:48:05,560 --> 01:48:09,360
Speaker 16: played disinterested, They just played out of sync. From from

2128
01:48:09,400 --> 01:48:11,400
Speaker 16: the get go. And it started when you know, with

2129
01:48:11,439 --> 01:48:13,600
Speaker 16: that uh, with that safety he had to take an

2130
01:48:13,720 --> 01:48:15,680
Speaker 16: ends on when he ran into Fontano and.

2131
01:48:15,640 --> 01:48:16,920
Speaker 2: Dropped the ball. Jerry.

2132
01:48:16,960 --> 01:48:19,439
Speaker 10: Was there much if any talk in the locker room

2133
01:48:19,479 --> 01:48:23,479
Speaker 10: about what clearly was a failed experiment of trying Andres

2134
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:27,080
Speaker 10: Pete at left guard so you could keep uh, Spencer

2135
01:48:27,120 --> 01:48:31,400
Speaker 10: Anderson available to be eligible, and how they kept changing

2136
01:48:31,439 --> 01:48:34,479
Speaker 10: that up And it's just I don't think it helped us.

2137
01:48:34,400 --> 01:48:35,200
Speaker 6: Not that way.

2138
01:48:36,160 --> 01:48:38,599
Speaker 16: Well, it certainly didn't help right off the bat when

2139
01:48:38,640 --> 01:48:40,760
Speaker 16: he takes the fall start County, when his first game

2140
01:48:40,800 --> 01:48:43,720
Speaker 16: that he plays. But I haven't had a chance to

2141
01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:45,719
Speaker 16: talk to the coaches in terms of what they wanted

2142
01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:48,000
Speaker 16: to do and what they what they were thinking. But

2143
01:48:48,840 --> 01:48:50,760
Speaker 16: you know, they want to run, They want to run

2144
01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:54,160
Speaker 16: that uh, that heavy package with Spencer Anderson. You would

2145
01:48:54,200 --> 01:48:57,400
Speaker 16: think maybe they might try somebody else in that role

2146
01:48:57,560 --> 01:49:00,759
Speaker 16: as opposed to taking Anderson out of the guard spot

2147
01:49:00,760 --> 01:49:06,200
Speaker 16: and having him do that. But uh, you know, I don't,

2148
01:49:06,240 --> 01:49:08,920
Speaker 16: I don't know, Like everything everything that they were doing

2149
01:49:09,040 --> 01:49:10,759
Speaker 16: was just out of sync. And you know it started

2150
01:49:10,760 --> 01:49:12,920
Speaker 16: with the quarterback and you know you have to you

2151
01:49:13,000 --> 01:49:15,960
Speaker 16: have to convert some third down plays once again. The

2152
01:49:16,000 --> 01:49:20,240
Speaker 16: play disparity was uh, you know, was incredible. Uh many

2153
01:49:20,320 --> 01:49:22,759
Speaker 16: chart plays as the Charges ran as opposed to the Steelers,

2154
01:49:23,240 --> 01:49:24,920
Speaker 16: and it would have looked a whole lot worse if

2155
01:49:24,920 --> 01:49:26,720
Speaker 16: they didn't get that touchdown at the end. It was

2156
01:49:26,760 --> 01:49:29,800
Speaker 16: bad enough that just that just eased some of the

2157
01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:32,040
Speaker 16: discomfort of watching them play. That is for sure.

2158
01:49:32,400 --> 01:49:35,320
Speaker 3: Any word on the Sam Molo injury. Might he be

2159
01:49:35,360 --> 01:49:36,360
Speaker 3: back for the Bengals game.

2160
01:49:37,439 --> 01:49:40,439
Speaker 16: No. The only thing I could say Randall and Mike

2161
01:49:40,479 --> 01:49:42,479
Speaker 16: and I talked about this in the pregame show, is

2162
01:49:42,520 --> 01:49:45,920
Speaker 16: that you know, this time last week, or at least

2163
01:49:45,920 --> 01:49:49,800
Speaker 16: in terms of Sunday, Uh, he played. He didn't last long,

2164
01:49:49,920 --> 01:49:52,280
Speaker 16: but he played. The fact that he didn't play tells

2165
01:49:52,320 --> 01:49:54,920
Speaker 16: me that this Sunday he was worse than he was

2166
01:49:54,960 --> 01:49:57,759
Speaker 16: the previous Sunday. And you know, last year he missed

2167
01:49:57,760 --> 01:50:01,200
Speaker 16: three games with that peck injury. I don't I don't

2168
01:50:01,240 --> 01:50:03,160
Speaker 16: know how long he's going to be out, but all

2169
01:50:03,200 --> 01:50:06,840
Speaker 16: I all I can presume is that his injury was

2170
01:50:06,880 --> 01:50:09,360
Speaker 16: worse this week than it was the previous hit.

2171
01:50:09,920 --> 01:50:13,360
Speaker 3: Jerry Dulac Steelers Audio Network brought to by always Say

2172
01:50:13,400 --> 01:50:18,200
Speaker 3: Flagging in Traffic Control this week on DVE. Jerry as always, thanks,

2173
01:50:18,240 --> 01:50:20,360
Speaker 3: safe travels coming back from Los Angeles.

2174
01:50:21,160 --> 01:50:23,799
Speaker 16: Yeah, thanks, man, I just hope everything's reliable today.

2175
01:50:24,439 --> 01:50:26,080
Speaker 3: Well, I think you got a couple more weeks before

2176
01:50:26,120 --> 01:50:29,519
Speaker 3: it all goes to hell. You'll be fine, You'll be fine. Thanks,

2177
01:50:29,800 --> 01:50:34,519
Speaker 3: all right, buddy, we'll see Abby's well. Unfortunately we can't

2178
01:50:34,560 --> 01:50:35,920
Speaker 3: get to any more of the rock and roll Hall

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Speaker 3: of Fame stuff today.

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Speaker 5: Well, we'll do it tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: We got Rob King coming in for a power out

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Speaker 3: of Steeler talk, but Mike pursued a guy just threw

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Speaker 3: twenty five to ten chargers over the Steelers.

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Speaker 5: When we return.

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Speaker 3: Here on your radio, Home of the Pittsburgh Steelers, one

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Speaker 3: O two point five DVE.

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Speaker 20: five DV.

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Speaker 3: all right here to hog the Sports Cast it's Mike Pursuona.

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Speaker 6: Don't hog it now, don't hog it.

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Speaker 3: No, whatever you do, I'm making these guys listen to

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Speaker 3: these Edmund Fitzgerald talking between commercial breaks.

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Speaker 6: We're very Oh no, I can tell you guys love it.

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Speaker 6: I actually do. I like it.

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Speaker 2: Though.

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Speaker 3: There's differing opinions, you know, and hearing all these different

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01:51:48,840 --> 01:51:54,439
Speaker 3: opinions about why the FitzGeralds sunk is interesting. But it introduced, uh,

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01:51:54,720 --> 01:51:57,519
Speaker 3: some terminology that none of us had been familiar with.

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01:51:58,160 --> 01:52:00,880
Speaker 6: And one of them is that the boat cracked in half.

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01:52:00,920 --> 01:52:04,680
Speaker 3: And then like like like a bridge going up, it

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Speaker 3: cracked in half, not like down, and so that's called

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Speaker 3: when it goes up. So the two halves like point

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Speaker 3: up after it cracks in half, that's called hogging. Like yeah,

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Speaker 3: like hogging. And I'd never heard that before as a

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Speaker 3: turn yeah. He And then the one guy keeps going

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01:52:22,600 --> 01:52:26,519
Speaker 3: he hogged the boat. He's not, he's hogging right now.

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Speaker 3: And then that's what happened. And then it cracked in half,

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Speaker 3: and before they knew it, they sunk five hundred feet down.

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Speaker 3: That's why all of the life ra and also it

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Speaker 3: was too rough to get in life boats apparently. Oh, yeah,

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Speaker 3: so they just I mean, those dudes all they're all

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Speaker 3: toast and they're all down there still all.

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Speaker 6: Of them crazy, so bizarre.

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Speaker 3: Fiftieth anniversary reckor of the ed Min Fitzgerald Mice got

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Speaker 3: your Sports.

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Speaker 10: Plat's offense was the problem in the Steelers twenty five

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Speaker 10: ten stinker last night in LA.

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01:52:58,560 --> 01:53:01,880
Speaker 6: But TJ. Watt didn't want to give the defensive pass.

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01:53:01,920 --> 01:53:04,599
Speaker 26: Inconsistent as it could be too much up and down,

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01:53:05,320 --> 01:53:06,080
Speaker 26: not enough.

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Speaker 6: Steeler football.

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Speaker 26: I mean, we can't continue to live and die by

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01:53:10,960 --> 01:53:12,680
Speaker 26: the Turners as a defense. We need to get off

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01:53:12,720 --> 01:53:16,639
Speaker 26: the field, and you stop the run critical third downs

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01:53:16,640 --> 01:53:20,120
Speaker 26: when you do better job of and no excuse for it.

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01:53:20,120 --> 01:53:20,920
Speaker 26: You need to play better.

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01:53:22,560 --> 01:53:25,000
Speaker 6: O were there last night. They had a couple turnovers

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Speaker 6: that they couldn't get their mits on. Fully.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, the offense couldn't complete a pass, not on third

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01:53:31,560 --> 01:53:33,920
Speaker 10: down at any rate, not until.

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01:53:33,439 --> 01:53:36,320
Speaker 6: It was way too late, dude.

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Speaker 11: It's probably midway to fourth quarter before we converted a

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Speaker 11: third down. And you're not gonna win football games not

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Speaker 11: converting third down and losing the turnover battle. And we

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01:53:45,240 --> 01:53:48,040
Speaker 11: certainly would loose with the ball in several instances and

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01:53:48,360 --> 01:53:51,400
Speaker 11: didn't convert enough third downs, and so that's the end result.

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Speaker 5: It's nothing mystical about it.

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Speaker 6: I appreciate t. J.

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Speaker 10: Watt holding the defense accountable, and yeah, that Joey Porter

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01:53:58,600 --> 01:54:01,160
Speaker 10: dropped interception could have been a game changing play. But

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01:54:02,080 --> 01:54:06,960
Speaker 10: this defense gave up thirteen points through three quarters and

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01:54:07,040 --> 01:54:10,280
Speaker 10: the Chargers' scoring drives were fifty one, thirty eight and

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Speaker 10: thirty six yards.

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Speaker 6: Turnovers man offense they capitalized on. The turnover offense just

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01:54:17,920 --> 01:54:21,559
Speaker 6: has to be better, I mean way better.

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Speaker 10: Still wouldn't be what they're going to need to be

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01:54:23,360 --> 01:54:26,120
Speaker 10: at some point, but where they are right now, this

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01:54:26,360 --> 01:54:31,240
Speaker 10: was just off the charts bad, starting with quarterback Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 10: who had a night to forget and acknowledged it as such.

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Speaker 8: Defense played really well tonight, and offensively we were pretty bad.

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01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:43,400
Speaker 8: So we got to find a way to get open

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01:54:43,440 --> 01:54:45,040
Speaker 8: on third down. I gotta find a way to hit them.

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Speaker 8: And because that was just some bad ball, yeah it was.

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Speaker 10: It was interesting to me that the Chargers really, I thought,

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01:54:55,640 --> 01:54:57,360
Speaker 10: had a great game plan for what they had to

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01:54:57,360 --> 01:55:00,520
Speaker 10: work with along the offensive line, and most of the

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01:55:00,640 --> 01:55:04,240
Speaker 10: damage Herbert was doing through the first three quarters was

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01:55:04,320 --> 01:55:07,200
Speaker 10: sideways passing and just yacking it out. You know, it

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01:55:07,240 --> 01:55:09,240
Speaker 10: looked like kind of how the Steelers were playing it

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Speaker 10: early in the season.

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Speaker 6: And because he was under duress, I mean, the Steelers

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Speaker 6: were getting after him.

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Speaker 10: They know how many times he's been hit this year,

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Speaker 10: and they know who they had playing offensive tackle, and

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Speaker 10: they know what the Steelers rush is capable of, and

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Speaker 10: they worked around it. And I thought their coaches had

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01:55:27,600 --> 01:55:29,360
Speaker 10: the better night of the two staffs.

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Speaker 3: Agreed, although execution was so poor on the Steelers end

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01:55:33,760 --> 01:55:35,520
Speaker 3: of things, it's hard to really.

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Speaker 6: Assess the game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's a fair point, but that falls on

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Speaker 3: coaching too.

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Speaker 10: Hit a couple of passes early and maybe it's a

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01:55:43,760 --> 01:55:48,040
Speaker 10: different game, but they they never figured out a plan

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01:55:48,160 --> 01:55:51,400
Speaker 10: be other than have Rogers try to navigate the pocket

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01:55:51,600 --> 01:55:56,400
Speaker 10: and throw under duress. And the running game thing is,

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01:55:58,200 --> 01:56:00,000
Speaker 10: I get that you're not running a lot of plays

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01:56:00,080 --> 01:56:02,200
Speaker 10: and oh for nine on third downs not gonna cut it,

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01:56:02,240 --> 01:56:07,240
Speaker 10: but they keep appearing to have gotten away from the

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01:56:07,360 --> 01:56:10,360
Speaker 10: run too early or not going to it enough.

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Speaker 6: And they got to solve that too. In that Green

2289
01:56:13,360 --> 01:56:15,040
Speaker 6: Bay game, what did they have in the second half?

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01:56:15,080 --> 01:56:19,400
Speaker 6: Three rushes worn at three rushes one in the third quarter,

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Speaker 6: and that's when they were up. They're still in the game.

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Speaker 6: You're up, You're up.

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Speaker 10: What nine at halftime last night? That you know, the

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01:56:26,200 --> 01:56:29,720
Speaker 10: Chargers weren't running away and hiding. I mean, Steelers couldn't

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01:56:29,720 --> 01:56:33,440
Speaker 10: get anything going, but they were within reach. You could

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01:56:33,440 --> 01:56:35,920
Speaker 10: have You could have just kept pounding and kept pounding it.

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01:56:38,200 --> 01:56:41,280
Speaker 10: I don't know it. It's always frustrating after a loss.

2298
01:56:42,520 --> 01:56:45,480
Speaker 10: But they better figure it out quick because the Bengals

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Speaker 10: come in to town Sunday. They've been pretty consistent since

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Speaker 10: Flaco got there. They can light you up and their

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01:56:51,680 --> 01:56:56,520
Speaker 10: defense stinks. So you know, I wouldn't go into this

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Speaker 10: game thinking you're gonna win sixteen to ten.

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Speaker 6: Bengals football enjoy half of it, No, But I mean

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Speaker 6: the two receivers are sick and Flacco he's they can

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Speaker 6: enjoy half of it.

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Speaker 10: Flacco is doing what Rogers has pretty much done up

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01:57:13,520 --> 01:57:17,120
Speaker 10: until last night anyway. But he's he's reading the defense,

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01:57:17,200 --> 01:57:21,240
Speaker 10: he's he's activating the playmakers, he's getting he's being decisive.

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Speaker 10: He's getting the ball out and getting it where it

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Speaker 10: needs to go, and he's given the guys a chance

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Speaker 10: to make plays.

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Speaker 6: It problem is that the Steelers don't have anybody as

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Speaker 6: good as Chase and Higgins.

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Speaker 10: They don't, but there was some place to be made

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Speaker 10: last night. The second possession misfired a metcalf deep. I mean,

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Speaker 10: I just said the Bengals, or excuse me, the Chargers

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Speaker 10: coaches had the better night. Arthur Smith got DK metcalf

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Speaker 10: one all one against the safety. That's got to be

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Speaker 10: a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: Jerry doesn't think so. Jerrys thinks he shouldn't have thrown it.

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Speaker 10: He was talking about he was talking about the popcoge Oh,

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Speaker 10: I'm sorry, Okay, Yeah, you were talking about where.

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Speaker 6: He threw it. There's some talk about double coverage there.

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Speaker 10: The safety is not getting over and going out of

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Speaker 10: bounds and getting on the other side of them, and

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Speaker 10: the safety's not jumping on the cornerback's shoulders.

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Speaker 6: The safety can take away. If he's leading him high,

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Speaker 6: that safety might be able to get there. I don't

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Speaker 6: think he does. Yeah, I don't think he does.

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Speaker 10: Rogers said he should have thrown it back shoulder or

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01:58:25,080 --> 01:58:27,480
Speaker 10: thrown it to the other side of the field. I

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Speaker 10: think back shoulder scores there.

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Speaker 3: Well, back shoulder gets you p I there is what

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Speaker 3: is what happens.

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Speaker 10: I think jump ball scores there. I don't care how

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Speaker 10: many guys they got there. They're not as big as Metcalf.

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Speaker 10: Just let him go up and get it. Looked like

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Speaker 10: he threw it relatively on a line and the cornerback

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Speaker 10: had inside position and Metcalf's trying to reach around him,

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Speaker 10: similar to the one against the Colts where he kind

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Speaker 10: of threw it low the fade into the This is supposed.

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Speaker 3: To be his specialty. This is supposed to be the

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Speaker 2: Right Chris Boswell.

2396
02:01:07,080 --> 02:01:09,920
Speaker 1: He had a slip that caused a missed field goal.

2397
02:01:09,960 --> 02:01:12,680
Speaker 1: He had a block field goal. This is his first

2398
02:01:12,800 --> 02:01:15,920
Speaker 1: real true miss of the season for forty five yards.

2399
02:01:16,440 --> 02:01:17,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what kind of night it was.

2400
02:01:18,120 --> 02:01:19,680
Speaker 5: Even Boswell missed one.

2401
02:01:19,800 --> 02:01:25,040
Speaker 3: Last night, the Steelers lose to the Chargers twenty five

2402
02:01:25,080 --> 02:01:28,560
Speaker 3: to ten Sunday Night Football. I still think the most

2403
02:01:28,600 --> 02:01:32,040
Speaker 3: interesting thing in the broadcast was the Chargers owner eating popcorn.

2404
02:01:32,120 --> 02:01:33,360
Speaker 5: You just never see a guy like that.

2405
02:01:33,440 --> 02:01:35,720
Speaker 3: You never see a billionaire just sitting there looking like

2406
02:01:35,760 --> 02:01:40,480
Speaker 3: a slob mixing it up. Yeah, like he's hammered his

2407
02:01:40,760 --> 02:01:45,640
Speaker 3: fisting popcorn to the face. Rob King joining us right now,

2408
02:01:45,640 --> 02:01:51,480
Speaker 3: and Rob, may I comment on your attire and Noah's okay,

2409
02:01:52,040 --> 02:01:52,720
Speaker 3: no is okay.

2410
02:01:53,960 --> 02:01:58,520
Speaker 1: I asked Jacob, Jacob, do I need to change out

2411
02:01:58,520 --> 02:02:02,760
Speaker 1: of this? And he said no, no.

2412
02:02:03,160 --> 02:02:04,880
Speaker 4: Because he knew what we would do.

2413
02:02:05,920 --> 02:02:08,920
Speaker 6: He knew it was good for the show classic robe.

2414
02:02:10,960 --> 02:02:13,040
Speaker 5: Rob is in his robe.

2415
02:02:13,480 --> 02:02:17,200
Speaker 1: Oh wow, And let me tell you that's like you know,

2416
02:02:18,000 --> 02:02:19,040
Speaker 1: Rob is in his robe.

2417
02:02:19,080 --> 02:02:20,600
Speaker 5: That's when, that's when he's really feeling it.

2418
02:02:21,400 --> 02:02:21,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2419
02:02:21,840 --> 02:02:23,440
Speaker 1: You know, now that I think about it, I prefer

2420
02:02:23,520 --> 02:02:26,520
Speaker 1: you didn't mention that. Okay, okay, thank you. Yeah, strike

2421
02:02:26,560 --> 02:02:27,120
Speaker 1: it from the record.

2422
02:02:27,280 --> 02:02:28,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, no one will remember.

2423
02:02:29,560 --> 02:02:35,320
Speaker 3: Uh. I didn't screenshot it, I promise three times.

2424
02:02:35,880 --> 02:02:36,200
Speaker 17: Uh.

2425
02:02:36,520 --> 02:02:37,840
Speaker 6: Kinger last night.

2426
02:02:38,280 --> 02:02:40,920
Speaker 3: I think you can easily just point the finger at

2427
02:02:40,920 --> 02:02:45,200
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers' performance as the primary reason why things did

2428
02:02:45,200 --> 02:02:46,920
Speaker 3: not go well for the Steelers last night.

2429
02:02:47,120 --> 02:02:49,120
Speaker 5: But I don't think it's quite that simple.

2430
02:02:51,880 --> 02:02:54,320
Speaker 1: Well no, but I mean, you know, he he after

2431
02:02:54,360 --> 02:02:56,240
Speaker 1: the game, he said he needed to be better. And

2432
02:02:56,600 --> 02:03:00,240
Speaker 1: you know, I listen, I thought his postgame comments were

2433
02:03:00,720 --> 02:03:04,280
Speaker 1: exactly right. You know, I think that he said he

2434
02:03:04,360 --> 02:03:08,480
Speaker 1: needed to be better. I also think that the you know,

2435
02:03:08,720 --> 02:03:11,000
Speaker 1: it didn't feel like there were a lot of guys

2436
02:03:11,080 --> 02:03:14,880
Speaker 1: open for whatever reason. So I think that was an issue.

2437
02:03:15,280 --> 02:03:18,120
Speaker 1: I don't think the protection was great, so I think

2438
02:03:18,200 --> 02:03:20,520
Speaker 1: that was an issue. I just think there were there

2439
02:03:20,560 --> 02:03:22,880
Speaker 1: were a lot of problems with the team last night,

2440
02:03:22,960 --> 02:03:25,680
Speaker 1: and but you know there's there was also it was

2441
02:03:25,840 --> 02:03:31,000
Speaker 1: uncharacteristic to see Aaron Rodgers, who I think is the

2442
02:03:31,040 --> 02:03:34,520
Speaker 1: greatest thrower of the football of all time, you know,

2443
02:03:34,880 --> 02:03:38,000
Speaker 1: not beyond target a couple of times. Now I forget

2444
02:03:38,040 --> 02:03:41,520
Speaker 1: the DK Metcalfro, you know, the one to John new Smith. Now,

2445
02:03:41,680 --> 02:03:43,760
Speaker 1: you know, also he had one interception went right through

2446
02:03:43,760 --> 02:03:44,920
Speaker 1: the hands of Calvin Anderson.

2447
02:03:45,000 --> 02:03:46,839
Speaker 2: But you know, there was there.

2448
02:03:46,640 --> 02:03:48,720
Speaker 1: Were you know, I didn't feel like that there were

2449
02:03:48,720 --> 02:03:50,840
Speaker 1: a lot of chargers open either. You know, I thought

2450
02:03:50,920 --> 02:03:53,880
Speaker 1: Herbert made some really good throws and I think, you

2451
02:03:53,920 --> 02:03:56,520
Speaker 1: know this, this isn't going to be one that Aaron's

2452
02:03:56,520 --> 02:03:59,320
Speaker 1: gonna remember as one of the great games of his career.

2453
02:03:59,640 --> 02:04:01,720
Speaker 1: But again, and you know, he was asked, hey, did

2454
02:04:01,800 --> 02:04:03,320
Speaker 1: you step up in the pocket too soon?

2455
02:04:03,360 --> 02:04:03,880
Speaker 2: He said, I don't know.

2456
02:04:03,880 --> 02:04:05,120
Speaker 1: I got to go back and look at the tape,

2457
02:04:05,160 --> 02:04:07,760
Speaker 1: and so I would my response would be the same.

2458
02:04:07,800 --> 02:04:10,560
Speaker 1: I don't know whether he was stepping into pressure, but

2459
02:04:10,600 --> 02:04:13,680
Speaker 1: there was certainly pressure. So you're right, it's not just

2460
02:04:13,840 --> 02:04:18,120
Speaker 1: him but it's also you know, the games he's played

2461
02:04:18,120 --> 02:04:22,400
Speaker 1: this year, it's it's the one that is not has

2462
02:04:22,440 --> 02:04:25,720
Speaker 1: not been good. I think he's been terrific the for

2463
02:04:25,760 --> 02:04:28,200
Speaker 1: this teeers, I mean, fantastic, but.

2464
02:04:29,760 --> 02:04:31,879
Speaker 2: Not last night. And but again he wasn't alone.

2465
02:04:32,040 --> 02:04:35,800
Speaker 3: Steelers defense trying to build off of an impressive performance

2466
02:04:35,840 --> 02:04:38,400
Speaker 3: against the Colts last night. I mean, not a lot

2467
02:04:38,400 --> 02:04:41,640
Speaker 3: to complain about when you're holding Justin Herban company to

2468
02:04:42,120 --> 02:04:45,000
Speaker 3: twelve points in the first half, and three of those

2469
02:04:45,080 --> 02:04:48,800
Speaker 3: coming or seven of them rather coming off a late

2470
02:04:48,840 --> 02:04:53,600
Speaker 3: turnover in that second quarter. By and large, what's your

2471
02:04:53,640 --> 02:04:54,760
Speaker 3: assessment of the defense?

2472
02:04:56,080 --> 02:04:59,200
Speaker 2: I thought defense was fine, Frankly, I really did. I didn't.

2473
02:04:59,240 --> 02:05:00,440
Speaker 2: I didn't think that defense.

2474
02:05:00,800 --> 02:05:03,080
Speaker 1: You know, if I'm looking at this loss, it's because

2475
02:05:03,600 --> 02:05:05,720
Speaker 1: the offense didn't get anything going. I mean they didn't

2476
02:05:05,760 --> 02:05:07,520
Speaker 1: they didn't move the ball. It was three and out,

2477
02:05:07,560 --> 02:05:09,840
Speaker 1: three and out, three and out, three and out. You know,

2478
02:05:09,880 --> 02:05:14,320
Speaker 1: they gave you know, they gave him, you know, a

2479
02:05:14,320 --> 02:05:17,440
Speaker 1: good field position, so you know, missed field goals and

2480
02:05:18,200 --> 02:05:19,680
Speaker 1: you know, of course the Steelers had a good field

2481
02:05:19,680 --> 02:05:22,240
Speaker 1: position too, but they didn't capitalize on it. I just

2482
02:05:22,280 --> 02:05:24,480
Speaker 1: think they put way too much pressure on the defense.

2483
02:05:24,720 --> 02:05:26,920
Speaker 1: The defense could have done a better job stopping Bydell.

2484
02:05:27,880 --> 02:05:30,560
Speaker 1: You know, I thought, again, this reminded me a little

2485
02:05:30,600 --> 02:05:33,560
Speaker 1: bit of the Cincinnati game, in which, you know, maybe

2486
02:05:33,560 --> 02:05:37,240
Speaker 1: he didn't expect the running game to be terrific. Although

2487
02:05:37,320 --> 02:05:40,760
Speaker 1: Videll has had two hundred yard games in his four starts,

2488
02:05:40,760 --> 02:05:43,640
Speaker 1: and he had another good game last night, he wasn't great.

2489
02:05:43,680 --> 02:05:45,400
Speaker 1: He wasn't the reason they lost. I don't think the

2490
02:05:45,400 --> 02:05:47,960
Speaker 1: defense was a reason to loss. I think the offense

2491
02:05:48,560 --> 02:05:52,760
Speaker 1: not sustaining drives, the offense not getting first downs, the

2492
02:05:52,840 --> 02:05:55,960
Speaker 1: offense turning the ball over. That's what cost the team,

2493
02:05:56,000 --> 02:05:57,919
Speaker 1: and that's what cost the defense.

2494
02:05:58,560 --> 02:06:00,720
Speaker 3: I was talking to Jerry d about this last hour,

2495
02:06:00,960 --> 02:06:04,360
Speaker 3: and it seems to me that they don't run the

2496
02:06:04,400 --> 02:06:08,680
Speaker 3: offense through Jalen Warren enough. I would like to see

2497
02:06:08,720 --> 02:06:12,760
Speaker 3: them be a run first offense and have Aaron Rodgers

2498
02:06:12,760 --> 02:06:15,600
Speaker 3: throw the ball twenty two times a game instead of

2499
02:06:15,880 --> 02:06:20,120
Speaker 3: thirty one or whatever he had last night. He plays

2500
02:06:20,120 --> 02:06:24,080
Speaker 3: with this desperation of ferocity. He made some plays last

2501
02:06:24,160 --> 02:06:27,800
Speaker 3: night that nobody else in that backfield is capable of

2502
02:06:27,840 --> 02:06:30,400
Speaker 3: doing for them. Caleb Johnson's still struggling, by the way,

2503
02:06:30,840 --> 02:06:33,920
Speaker 3: and that was somebody the preseason that they had placed

2504
02:06:33,960 --> 02:06:36,160
Speaker 3: a lot of faith in was going to be able

2505
02:06:36,200 --> 02:06:39,360
Speaker 3: to carry the lion's share of what we were missing

2506
02:06:39,640 --> 02:06:44,240
Speaker 3: in Nagy's absence. That being said, Jalen Warren has more

2507
02:06:44,280 --> 02:06:49,200
Speaker 3: than made up for that with his performance. Didn't you

2508
02:06:49,280 --> 02:06:51,760
Speaker 3: think with Arthur Smith's love of tight ends, this was

2509
02:06:51,800 --> 02:06:53,160
Speaker 3: going to be a lot of running and a lot

2510
02:06:53,160 --> 02:06:55,680
Speaker 3: of thrown to the tight end. I hardly noticed Johnny Smith,

2511
02:06:55,960 --> 02:06:57,760
Speaker 3: and I don't think we go to Jailen enough.

2512
02:06:59,080 --> 02:07:02,000
Speaker 1: We had fourteen k he's right for seventy yards and

2513
02:07:02,240 --> 02:07:04,560
Speaker 1: he's had fifteen or more touches in every game so

2514
02:07:04,640 --> 02:07:05,360
Speaker 1: far this season.

2515
02:07:05,640 --> 02:07:07,280
Speaker 2: I know what you're saying, Randy.

2516
02:07:06,720 --> 02:07:08,960
Speaker 5: I think he should have like twenty five touches.

2517
02:07:09,640 --> 02:07:11,320
Speaker 2: It wouldn't bother me in the least.

2518
02:07:11,320 --> 02:07:14,200
Speaker 1: And I'll also say this, I think that they I

2519
02:07:14,240 --> 02:07:16,280
Speaker 1: understand what you're saying about Caleb Johnson, but I think

2520
02:07:16,280 --> 02:07:19,160
Speaker 1: the fact that they signed Jalen Warren to a contract

2521
02:07:19,200 --> 02:07:22,400
Speaker 1: extension let you know that Caleb Johnson was going to

2522
02:07:22,440 --> 02:07:25,520
Speaker 1: be slow rolled into this offense. And that's exactly what's happened.

2523
02:07:25,840 --> 02:07:28,720
Speaker 1: And they signed Kenneth Gainwell. They really like Kenneth Gainwell.

2524
02:07:28,760 --> 02:07:31,760
Speaker 1: They think he's out an outstanding third down back, and

2525
02:07:32,120 --> 02:07:33,760
Speaker 1: I think going into last night's game he was the

2526
02:07:33,800 --> 02:07:37,160
Speaker 1: team second leading receiver for the season in terms of receptions.

2527
02:07:37,360 --> 02:07:40,280
Speaker 1: I love Jalen Warren. He was very effective last night.

2528
02:07:41,080 --> 02:07:44,480
Speaker 1: But when you you know, are facing third and three

2529
02:07:44,920 --> 02:07:46,360
Speaker 1: and you're like, well, I should we throw it or

2530
02:07:46,400 --> 02:07:50,920
Speaker 1: run it? Well, let's throw it incomplete, incomplete, incomplete, incomplete,

2531
02:07:50,960 --> 02:07:52,800
Speaker 1: three and out, three and out, three and out, you

2532
02:07:52,920 --> 02:07:55,920
Speaker 1: only run fifty plays, and you know a lot of

2533
02:07:55,920 --> 02:07:58,720
Speaker 1: those were those fifty plays were late in the game

2534
02:07:58,760 --> 02:08:02,400
Speaker 1: where you had to throw. You know, I understand what

2535
02:08:02,400 --> 02:08:04,120
Speaker 1: you're saying, and I would love to see more of

2536
02:08:04,200 --> 02:08:06,480
Speaker 1: Jalen Warren, but it's a chicken and egg thing, like

2537
02:08:06,720 --> 02:08:09,720
Speaker 1: you've got to get first downs to see more of

2538
02:08:09,800 --> 02:08:12,560
Speaker 1: Jalen Warren. I mean, you got to have the ball longer.

2539
02:08:12,800 --> 02:08:16,040
Speaker 1: You know, there was a there was a sequence when

2540
02:08:16,040 --> 02:08:18,320
Speaker 1: the Steelers went forward on fourth down and didn't get it.

2541
02:08:18,880 --> 02:08:22,960
Speaker 1: So Jalen Warren ran right, picked up four yards second

2542
02:08:22,960 --> 02:08:26,720
Speaker 1: and six, and they had a looked to me like

2543
02:08:26,720 --> 02:08:28,560
Speaker 1: they had a pitch play called the Jalen Warren to

2544
02:08:28,600 --> 02:08:34,640
Speaker 1: the right. But Aaron Rodgers saw dk metcalf in single coverage.

2545
02:08:34,720 --> 02:08:38,200
Speaker 1: So I want Aaron Rodgers to be able to do

2546
02:08:38,280 --> 02:08:40,080
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers things. I don't want to sell if you

2547
02:08:40,120 --> 02:08:42,160
Speaker 1: can't do it, you know, we don't want you checking

2548
02:08:42,240 --> 02:08:44,600
Speaker 1: out of this play. Well, he thinks he's got dk

2549
02:08:45,120 --> 02:08:48,000
Speaker 1: metcalf for a slant for a touchdown. Bud dupreez coming

2550
02:08:48,080 --> 02:08:51,520
Speaker 1: off that edge, Rogers gets the ball. Everybody flows, right,

2551
02:08:52,040 --> 02:08:55,720
Speaker 1: he stops, turns around, and bud Dupree doesn't rush.

2552
02:08:55,840 --> 02:08:57,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just standing there.

2553
02:08:57,560 --> 02:09:00,800
Speaker 1: So, like, I mean, I don't want Aaron Rodgers to

2554
02:09:00,920 --> 02:09:04,520
Speaker 1: not go for what his experience tells him to go for.

2555
02:09:04,760 --> 02:09:08,320
Speaker 1: We've been lauding his ability to diagnose this to the

2556
02:09:08,360 --> 02:09:11,600
Speaker 1: offensive line, and that was one where he diagnosed it.

2557
02:09:11,640 --> 02:09:13,840
Speaker 1: And you know, now in retrospect he pitches it to

2558
02:09:13,920 --> 02:09:16,840
Speaker 1: Jalen Warren. You know, now maybe he picks up three yards.

2559
02:09:16,840 --> 02:09:18,920
Speaker 1: It's third and three and that you know, you're thinking

2560
02:09:18,960 --> 02:09:20,960
Speaker 1: four down territory. Maybe you run it twice there. I

2561
02:09:20,960 --> 02:09:25,720
Speaker 1: don't know, But it was just, you know, it was

2562
02:09:25,760 --> 02:09:30,200
Speaker 1: not only it was not only you know, the poor execution.

2563
02:09:30,280 --> 02:09:31,600
Speaker 2: It was a little bit of bad luck. I mean,

2564
02:09:31,600 --> 02:09:33,080
Speaker 2: like that's just bad luck. What are you going to do?

2565
02:09:33,080 --> 02:09:35,840
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just I don't you know, I don't

2566
02:09:35,840 --> 02:09:38,240
Speaker 1: want him to not say I've got a slant for

2567
02:09:38,280 --> 02:09:41,760
Speaker 1: a touchdown and do that. So I understand what you're saying.

2568
02:09:41,800 --> 02:09:44,080
Speaker 1: I love Jalen Warren. I think he's a terrific back,

2569
02:09:44,360 --> 02:09:46,760
Speaker 1: and I agree with everything you said. He fights to

2570
02:09:46,880 --> 02:09:50,320
Speaker 1: the absolute until his face is in the ground.

2571
02:09:50,400 --> 02:09:53,360
Speaker 2: He is still churning those legs. I love the way

2572
02:09:53,400 --> 02:09:53,880
Speaker 2: he runs.

2573
02:09:54,120 --> 02:09:55,920
Speaker 1: I mean, he brought a roar from the crowd in

2574
02:09:55,920 --> 02:09:57,640
Speaker 1: that first run of the second half when he leapt

2575
02:09:57,680 --> 02:10:02,080
Speaker 1: over the defender Cam Heart. You know, I love Jalen Warren,

2576
02:10:02,120 --> 02:10:03,760
Speaker 1: but they've got to get more first downs to get

2577
02:10:03,880 --> 02:10:05,000
Speaker 1: Jail and Warren more involved.

2578
02:10:05,040 --> 02:10:08,400
Speaker 6: Well what if they do that by raising Randy's other point,

2579
02:10:08,680 --> 02:10:12,640
Speaker 6: by activating the pass catching tight ends. Because Jonny Smith

2580
02:10:12,800 --> 02:10:15,520
Speaker 6: had eight touchdowns and eighty eight catches last year, and

2581
02:10:15,560 --> 02:10:19,520
Speaker 6: he is he disappears for stretches of games. Pat Fryarmuth.

2582
02:10:19,600 --> 02:10:21,680
Speaker 6: We all thought, all right, well, now that you have

2583
02:10:22,280 --> 02:10:26,080
Speaker 6: a real lover of the throw, the thrower of the football,

2584
02:10:26,520 --> 02:10:28,840
Speaker 6: a lover of the game, you're gonna you're gonna see

2585
02:10:28,880 --> 02:10:32,120
Speaker 6: Pat Fryarmuth get activated. And that hasn't happened. Except when

2586
02:10:32,120 --> 02:10:35,120
Speaker 6: he's playing against the Bengals. Are you getting enough from

2587
02:10:35,160 --> 02:10:35,800
Speaker 6: the tight ends?

2588
02:10:37,160 --> 02:10:39,680
Speaker 1: Well, you know, just even going back to last week,

2589
02:10:39,960 --> 02:10:42,800
Speaker 1: the receivers, I think the receivers caught nine balls and

2590
02:10:42,800 --> 02:10:44,120
Speaker 1: the tight ends caught ten balls.

2591
02:10:44,320 --> 02:10:46,120
Speaker 2: So they're utilizing the tight ends more.

2592
02:10:46,160 --> 02:10:49,160
Speaker 1: And I understand what you're saying, Bill, because I thought

2593
02:10:49,760 --> 02:10:51,840
Speaker 1: john new Smith. I thought it was gonna be DK

2594
02:10:51,920 --> 02:10:54,480
Speaker 1: Metcalf was gonna be the clear number one, and I

2595
02:10:54,480 --> 02:10:56,640
Speaker 1: thought Johnny Smith was probably gonna be the clear number

2596
02:10:56,680 --> 02:10:59,080
Speaker 1: two based on exactly what you're talking about, what he

2597
02:10:59,120 --> 02:11:01,440
Speaker 1: did last year with eighty eight catches. Now they don't

2598
02:11:01,440 --> 02:11:03,800
Speaker 1: throw the ball enough to have anybody get eighty eight

2599
02:11:03,840 --> 02:11:05,000
Speaker 1: catches or don't want.

2600
02:11:04,880 --> 02:11:05,720
Speaker 2: To throw the ball enough.

2601
02:11:06,440 --> 02:11:08,840
Speaker 1: I really think, and I've said this before, I really

2602
02:11:08,880 --> 02:11:12,320
Speaker 1: think it's just gonna be week to week. DK Metcalf's

2603
02:11:12,320 --> 02:11:15,120
Speaker 1: gonna get his targets. He's the number one guy, and

2604
02:11:15,160 --> 02:11:18,520
Speaker 1: then week to week, you know it's gonna be Okay,

2605
02:11:18,560 --> 02:11:22,120
Speaker 1: it's Calvin Austin's turn, it's Darnell Washington's turn.

2606
02:11:22,320 --> 02:11:22,720
Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 1: You know, Darnell's been a pretty you know, I mean,

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02:11:26,320 --> 02:11:29,960
Speaker 1: they've they've targeted him, but you know it feels like

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02:11:30,000 --> 02:11:32,320
Speaker 1: he's targeting more because I think he's a big guy

2610
02:11:32,360 --> 02:11:33,960
Speaker 1: and he's fun and we like when he gets the ball.

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02:11:34,000 --> 02:11:35,640
Speaker 1: But you know, he's it's not like he's gonna have,

2612
02:11:36,280 --> 02:11:38,640
Speaker 1: you know, fifty catches this year either. I just think

2613
02:11:38,680 --> 02:11:40,880
Speaker 1: it's gonna be matchup based. I think they're gonna work

2614
02:11:40,920 --> 02:11:44,160
Speaker 1: the ball around. But again, this has been a problem

2615
02:11:44,240 --> 02:11:47,320
Speaker 1: for this ye others. It just it was a bigger

2616
02:11:47,400 --> 02:11:52,160
Speaker 1: problem last night because it was so evident and so obvious.

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Speaker 2: The three and outs.

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Speaker 1: I think they have the fourth highest percentage of three

2619
02:11:56,840 --> 02:11:59,200
Speaker 1: and outs in the league. It's something to that degree.

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Speaker 1: By the way, the Chargers had the fewest amount. I

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Speaker 1: thought the Steelers defense did a good job. They had

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Speaker 1: the fewest three and outs in the league. I thought

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Speaker 1: the Steelers did the defense for the most part, did

2624
02:12:07,720 --> 02:12:10,840
Speaker 1: a good job. This just have got to find a

2625
02:12:10,920 --> 02:12:14,000
Speaker 1: way to get more first down They just it's three

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02:12:14,040 --> 02:12:16,280
Speaker 1: and out, three and out, three and out, and last

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02:12:16,360 --> 02:12:18,040
Speaker 1: night it just killed him.

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02:12:18,960 --> 02:12:22,480
Speaker 3: Did Kashawn Williams muff on that punt late in the

2629
02:12:22,560 --> 02:12:27,040
Speaker 3: game open the door to put Austin back to return

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Speaker 3: punts and give a helmet to MVS Next week against

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Speaker 3: the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: That's a great question.

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Speaker 1: I hadn't thought about it, but you know, Calvin Austin's

2634
02:12:36,080 --> 02:12:39,760
Speaker 1: an electrifying punt returner, and you know, I think it

2635
02:12:39,840 --> 02:12:41,920
Speaker 1: was great that Keishawn Williams could take that off of

2636
02:12:41,920 --> 02:12:45,600
Speaker 1: his plate. But it's pretty clear from how many snaps

2637
02:12:45,640 --> 02:12:48,080
Speaker 1: he's getting at the receiver position that he's a returner,

2638
02:12:48,320 --> 02:12:50,520
Speaker 1: right So that's what you want him to do, and

2639
02:12:51,280 --> 02:12:53,560
Speaker 1: you know they did put him back out there again

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02:12:53,640 --> 02:12:57,160
Speaker 1: to return kicks. I just think that that'll be an

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02:12:57,200 --> 02:13:00,320
Speaker 1: interesting decision because the one thing a coach has to

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02:13:00,320 --> 02:13:03,040
Speaker 1: be able to do, regardless of position, he has to

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02:13:03,040 --> 02:13:03,520
Speaker 1: trust you.

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02:13:03,840 --> 02:13:06,000
Speaker 2: And so that is that going to take away the trust?

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02:13:06,040 --> 02:13:09,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, because Keishawn Williams, you know, when he's

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02:13:09,040 --> 02:13:11,480
Speaker 1: at the ball in his hands, he's been fantastic too.

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02:13:11,640 --> 02:13:16,160
Speaker 3: He has looked electric and he also also has worried me. Although,

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02:13:16,200 --> 02:13:18,000
Speaker 3: as I've said, I don't know that there's been a

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02:13:18,000 --> 02:13:21,040
Speaker 3: Steeler returning returner in twenty years that I haven't worried

2650
02:13:21,120 --> 02:13:25,160
Speaker 3: was going to fumble, except Ab like Ab was, I

2651
02:13:25,200 --> 02:13:25,720
Speaker 3: don't even.

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02:13:25,600 --> 02:13:27,240
Speaker 6: He might kick a guy in the face, but he's

2653
02:13:27,280 --> 02:13:28,040
Speaker 6: not going to FuMB.

2654
02:13:27,800 --> 02:13:29,240
Speaker 5: That right there.

2655
02:13:29,280 --> 02:13:32,520
Speaker 3: Will be an assault on the field before a fumble.

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02:13:33,400 --> 02:13:36,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and it's the special team for the

2657
02:13:36,480 --> 02:13:38,560
Speaker 1: Steelers was a big edge coming into this game. I mean,

2658
02:13:38,920 --> 02:13:42,320
Speaker 1: when you looked at the intangibles, you know, he said, look,

2659
02:13:43,360 --> 02:13:45,960
Speaker 1: the Steelers are plus eight in the turnover marchin one

2660
02:13:46,000 --> 02:13:48,200
Speaker 1: of the best in the league. The Chargers are minus four.

2661
02:13:48,880 --> 02:13:52,080
Speaker 1: The Chargers are susceptible to big returns. The Steelers have

2662
02:13:52,240 --> 02:13:54,920
Speaker 1: very buttoned up special teams in it. Both teams have

2663
02:13:55,000 --> 02:13:59,920
Speaker 1: great kickers. Okay, well, both teams miskicks. But the edge

2664
02:14:00,080 --> 02:14:03,120
Speaker 1: did not go to the Steelers in special teams. And

2665
02:14:03,560 --> 02:14:06,280
Speaker 1: that was unexpected because the Steelers special teams have been

2666
02:14:06,320 --> 02:14:08,000
Speaker 1: solid and the Charger of special teams have not.

2667
02:14:08,680 --> 02:14:10,680
Speaker 2: And they lost the turnover battle three to nothing.

2668
02:14:11,080 --> 02:14:15,240
Speaker 1: You know, you don't and you know, the one thing

2669
02:14:15,480 --> 02:14:18,360
Speaker 1: that you know, Mike Tomlin did his postgame press conference,

2670
02:14:18,360 --> 02:14:20,360
Speaker 1: the one thing that just ranked truest to me of

2671
02:14:20,400 --> 02:14:24,360
Speaker 1: all was if you don't get first downs and you

2672
02:14:24,880 --> 02:14:27,760
Speaker 1: lose the turnover battle three to nothing, you're not gonna win.

2673
02:14:28,320 --> 02:14:30,400
Speaker 2: You're not gonna win. It's as simple as that.

2674
02:14:32,320 --> 02:14:35,120
Speaker 3: Where with Rob King, a power hour of Steeler talk

2675
02:14:35,520 --> 02:14:38,960
Speaker 3: this morning here on the DVE Morning Show, and Abby,

2676
02:14:39,000 --> 02:14:42,360
Speaker 3: this first half hour is brought to you by.

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02:14:42,440 --> 02:14:45,720
Speaker 7: Whom your neighborhood, Ford Steor the F one fifty is

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02:14:45,760 --> 02:14:47,960
Speaker 7: the official truck of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

2679
02:14:48,120 --> 02:14:52,600
Speaker 3: All right, thank you and Kinger, I uh want to

2680
02:14:52,680 --> 02:14:56,360
Speaker 3: ask your permission here if I can hijack the Power

2681
02:14:56,400 --> 02:14:57,480
Speaker 3: Hour for a second.

2682
02:14:57,240 --> 02:14:59,320
Speaker 6: Because it is the fiftieth.

2683
02:14:59,200 --> 02:15:03,600
Speaker 5: Version of the Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald's today.

2684
02:15:04,160 --> 02:15:07,840
Speaker 3: Right, So here's as we go into the commercial break,

2685
02:15:07,960 --> 02:15:11,280
Speaker 3: a couple of quick tidbits about the wreck of the

2686
02:15:11,400 --> 02:15:12,200
Speaker 3: Edmund Fitzgerald.

2687
02:15:13,680 --> 02:15:15,560
Speaker 6: There were twenty eight people on board.

2688
02:15:15,680 --> 02:15:17,560
Speaker 3: Six of them were going to retire at the end

2689
02:15:17,560 --> 02:15:21,840
Speaker 3: of this trip, including the captain. He was doing one

2690
02:15:21,960 --> 02:15:25,960
Speaker 3: more run to get money for his wife's medical bills.

2691
02:15:27,680 --> 02:15:30,839
Speaker 5: How about it's like Rogers, the.

2692
02:15:30,680 --> 02:15:34,360
Speaker 3: Trip was supposed to not happen because they were going.

2693
02:15:34,120 --> 02:15:39,040
Speaker 6: To Did you see him wins when you.

2694
02:15:39,040 --> 02:15:44,919
Speaker 3: Say the chip was supposed to be put in drydock

2695
02:15:45,120 --> 02:15:47,680
Speaker 3: a week before the storm. But the company's like, ah,

2696
02:15:47,760 --> 02:15:50,680
Speaker 3: we can push through a couple more times, No you can't.

2697
02:15:51,400 --> 02:15:54,400
Speaker 3: The captain decided to go further north on Lake Superior,

2698
02:15:54,440 --> 02:15:59,640
Speaker 3: Bill and what happened there? Bad move, terrible move let

2699
02:15:59,680 --> 02:16:04,120
Speaker 3: the storm built, and that's where they went wrong because

2700
02:16:04,160 --> 02:16:06,080
Speaker 3: he came close to the island in the middle of

2701
02:16:06,120 --> 02:16:08,960
Speaker 3: the Lake Superior and then likely took water on there

2702
02:16:08,960 --> 02:16:09,800
Speaker 3: by hitting the ground.

2703
02:16:09,840 --> 02:16:12,760
Speaker 5: And then that was basically all she wrote.

2704
02:16:13,920 --> 02:16:17,520
Speaker 3: And did you know, Rob, You're not allowed to go

2705
02:16:17,560 --> 02:16:19,480
Speaker 3: down there anymore. They don't let people go dive in.

2706
02:16:19,560 --> 02:16:20,920
Speaker 3: That's like a grave site.

2707
02:16:22,160 --> 02:16:24,720
Speaker 2: Interesting you. I saw you post something.

2708
02:16:24,760 --> 02:16:26,400
Speaker 1: Of course I want to say, Fellas it's a bit good,

2709
02:16:26,400 --> 02:16:27,720
Speaker 1: you know, but I'll be back next second.

2710
02:16:28,000 --> 02:16:29,560
Speaker 2: But you posted something.

2711
02:16:29,560 --> 02:16:32,400
Speaker 1: There's a really good documentary on this.

2712
02:16:32,520 --> 02:16:34,280
Speaker 3: There's a couple of them, Yeah, I had. There's the

2713
02:16:35,120 --> 02:16:37,480
Speaker 3: ones an hour and ones like forty five minutes. And

2714
02:16:37,520 --> 02:16:39,960
Speaker 3: there's like these people from all of these Great Lakes

2715
02:16:40,040 --> 02:16:42,879
Speaker 3: museums around there who were kind of arguing what they

2716
02:16:42,920 --> 02:16:45,440
Speaker 3: think actually happened to it.

2717
02:16:45,440 --> 02:16:47,640
Speaker 6: It's just just this was a perfect storm.

2718
02:16:47,640 --> 02:16:51,680
Speaker 3: But here's the crazy stat there were in one hundred

2719
02:16:51,720 --> 02:16:54,320
Speaker 3: years on the Great Lakes between eighteen seventy five and

2720
02:16:54,400 --> 02:17:00,160
Speaker 3: nineteen seventy five, six thousand shipwrecks, six thousand.

2721
02:17:01,440 --> 02:17:02,040
Speaker 6: One a day.

2722
02:17:02,080 --> 02:17:07,000
Speaker 3: For one hundred years, thirty thousand people drowned in one

2723
02:17:07,040 --> 02:17:13,039
Speaker 3: hundred years since they Dmund Fitzgerald went down zero.

2724
02:17:15,760 --> 02:17:17,119
Speaker 6: Wow, that's hard to believe.

2725
02:17:17,640 --> 02:17:24,000
Speaker 3: None, because technology improved after that. They did a resurveying

2726
02:17:24,160 --> 02:17:26,880
Speaker 3: of the ground underneath to have a more accurate assessment

2727
02:17:26,879 --> 02:17:30,360
Speaker 3: of what you know, they were sailing over. And also

2728
02:17:31,440 --> 02:17:34,720
Speaker 3: companies were like, if we send people out and they die,

2729
02:17:35,200 --> 02:17:39,119
Speaker 3: we get sued. We can't just blame it on them,

2730
02:17:39,120 --> 02:17:42,640
Speaker 3: which is what the insurance company that ran they Edmund

2731
02:17:42,640 --> 02:17:46,320
Speaker 3: Fitzgerald tried to do. They tried to say out human error,

2732
02:17:46,400 --> 02:17:51,360
Speaker 3: this isn't on us. He piloted it wrong. So pretty

2733
02:17:51,360 --> 02:17:56,640
Speaker 3: despicable stuff there. But it is crazy that this shipwreck

2734
02:17:56,680 --> 02:17:59,600
Speaker 3: that I only knew because of the Damn song has

2735
02:17:59,640 --> 02:18:02,560
Speaker 3: so many fascinating elements to it, and you can go

2736
02:18:02,640 --> 02:18:03,920
Speaker 3: check them out if you want. I still think it

2737
02:18:03,920 --> 02:18:05,600
Speaker 3: should be a Hollywood movie. I really do.

2738
02:18:05,959 --> 02:18:06,680
Speaker 4: Maybe it will be.

2739
02:18:07,800 --> 02:18:08,320
Speaker 6: It'll be.

2740
02:18:08,480 --> 02:18:11,360
Speaker 3: It'll probably be all a I and if Diamo del

2741
02:18:11,400 --> 02:18:13,600
Speaker 3: Toro does it, the captain will be super hot.

2742
02:18:13,560 --> 02:18:19,320
Speaker 4: And wear hot pants. We watched Frankenstein this weekend.

2743
02:18:19,440 --> 02:18:21,600
Speaker 1: I wondered if that I haven't seen it yet, but

2744
02:18:21,640 --> 02:18:23,480
Speaker 1: I assuming that it was the reference.

2745
02:18:23,640 --> 02:18:27,240
Speaker 6: It's fabulous he made Frankenstein. I don't under.

2746
02:18:29,000 --> 02:18:32,480
Speaker 7: Listen, he can get it monster.

2747
02:18:34,080 --> 02:18:36,800
Speaker 3: I don't understand his take on that movie at all,

2748
02:18:36,879 --> 02:18:38,600
Speaker 3: but like it was still really good.

2749
02:18:38,760 --> 02:18:40,160
Speaker 4: It was it was really good.

2750
02:18:40,320 --> 02:18:42,480
Speaker 7: And I know he gets kind of slammed sometimes for

2751
02:18:42,560 --> 02:18:46,480
Speaker 7: style over substance, and I thought there was still substance

2752
02:18:46,480 --> 02:18:46,720
Speaker 7: in it.

2753
02:18:46,800 --> 02:18:50,680
Speaker 4: But also I want to get down with frankensteigin.

2754
02:18:50,120 --> 02:18:53,280
Speaker 6: Though everybody's just letting him catch them.

2755
02:18:53,400 --> 02:19:03,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got me, Please don't rob king joining us?

2756
02:19:04,000 --> 02:19:09,360
Speaker 3: Fire good, we got we have another half hour to

2757
02:19:09,400 --> 02:19:11,000
Speaker 3: talk about these Pittsburgh Steelers.

2758
02:19:11,000 --> 02:19:13,000
Speaker 6: And hey, we're just talking about Frankenstein.

2759
02:19:15,200 --> 02:19:18,199
Speaker 3: If Frankenstein was on the Edmit Minzgerald, now hear me out. Okay,

2760
02:19:18,480 --> 02:19:19,320
Speaker 3: what would have happened?

2761
02:19:19,440 --> 02:19:20,360
Speaker 6: Steelers fans?

2762
02:19:20,440 --> 02:19:21,760
Speaker 5: Your team is a powerhouse.

2763
02:19:21,800 --> 02:19:23,879
Speaker 6: Are you ready for another great game here in the

2764
02:19:23,920 --> 02:19:25,519
Speaker 6: Steel City? Absolutely?

2765
02:19:25,600 --> 02:19:26,920
Speaker 5: And let's take a minute.

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02:19:27,400 --> 02:19:29,800
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Speaker 3: so that was good. But Mike is joining us along

2774
02:19:52,600 --> 02:19:55,560
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Speaker 10: I'm gonna recant what I said last hour about the

2777
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:04,520
Speaker 10: the Steelers game plan. We can't the Chargers had a

2778
02:20:04,520 --> 02:20:08,280
Speaker 10: great game plan because they protected their quarterback. But just

2779
02:20:08,320 --> 02:20:10,080
Speaker 10: because they had a good one doesn't mean the Steelers

2780
02:20:10,080 --> 02:20:12,920
Speaker 10: had a bad one. The Steelers kept trusting their guys

2781
02:20:12,920 --> 02:20:15,240
Speaker 10: to make plays, and there were enough out there to

2782
02:20:15,280 --> 02:20:19,520
Speaker 10: be made. I was just reviewing between sports casts here

2783
02:20:19,640 --> 02:20:23,760
Speaker 10: and they were in position plenty of times. Let's go

2784
02:20:23,800 --> 02:20:27,600
Speaker 10: through the place that they should have made and didn't

2785
02:20:27,879 --> 02:20:31,760
Speaker 10: were absolutely critical. The obvious one is the deep ball

2786
02:20:31,800 --> 02:20:35,120
Speaker 10: to Metcalf on the second possession. That's got to be

2787
02:20:35,160 --> 02:20:38,640
Speaker 10: a touchdown. Rogers said he missed them. Metcalf might have

2788
02:20:38,720 --> 02:20:40,400
Speaker 10: flattened it out a little bit toward.

2789
02:20:40,200 --> 02:20:40,840
Speaker 2: The end of the route.

2790
02:20:40,879 --> 02:20:43,160
Speaker 10: I don't know if he'd lost his details a little

2791
02:20:43,160 --> 02:20:46,320
Speaker 10: bit or or Rogers just missed him. But those two guys,

2792
02:20:46,320 --> 02:20:49,080
Speaker 10: one way or another have to come up with a

2793
02:20:49,080 --> 02:20:52,800
Speaker 10: touchdown there when it's DK metcalf on a safety one

2794
02:20:52,840 --> 02:20:56,640
Speaker 10: on one yep, that can't carp about the plan there.

2795
02:20:57,120 --> 02:20:59,240
Speaker 10: So you left what four points on the board there,

2796
02:20:59,320 --> 02:21:01,680
Speaker 10: Let's say because they kicked the field goal right afterward.

2797
02:21:02,440 --> 02:21:06,160
Speaker 10: Uh the high ball to John hus Smith early in

2798
02:21:06,160 --> 02:21:09,800
Speaker 10: the second quarter that he went up for and tried

2799
02:21:09,840 --> 02:21:11,680
Speaker 10: to come down with. At first they said he caught it,

2800
02:21:11,680 --> 02:21:14,840
Speaker 10: and then they replayed, Chargers challenged it and they said incomplete.

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02:21:15,440 --> 02:21:17,560
Speaker 10: He's getting at least to the five yard line on

2802
02:21:17,600 --> 02:21:19,480
Speaker 10: that if you hit him, and then he's got to

2803
02:21:19,480 --> 02:21:21,840
Speaker 10: beat a dB to get into the end zone.

2804
02:21:22,080 --> 02:21:25,759
Speaker 6: Also, it's not illegal to catch that ball and make it.

2805
02:21:25,760 --> 02:21:31,039
Speaker 6: It's indisputable, it's not. But it was a really high throw.

2806
02:21:31,200 --> 02:21:33,080
Speaker 10: Guys open, hit him, put it on him, hit him

2807
02:21:33,080 --> 02:21:34,800
Speaker 10: in stride, let him get some yak, and let him

2808
02:21:34,800 --> 02:21:39,119
Speaker 10: get in the end zone. Did they leave now seven

2809
02:21:39,120 --> 02:21:43,600
Speaker 10: points on the board? Eleven probably is the more likely scenario.

2810
02:21:44,600 --> 02:21:48,959
Speaker 10: The deep ball to Calvin Austin might have just been

2811
02:21:48,959 --> 02:21:51,000
Speaker 10: a great play by the corner.

2812
02:21:51,600 --> 02:21:54,800
Speaker 6: You think Calvinasin slowed up? Yeah he slowed up?

2813
02:21:54,800 --> 02:21:55,040
Speaker 2: Did he?

2814
02:21:55,320 --> 02:21:57,160
Speaker 6: Yeah? He did? Okay, Well, then let's throw that in.

2815
02:21:57,200 --> 02:22:01,519
Speaker 10: There's a big play that cost him some more points

2816
02:22:01,920 --> 02:22:07,880
Speaker 10: the interception. They weren't necessarily in scoring position, but Rogers

2817
02:22:07,879 --> 02:22:12,640
Speaker 10: tried to thread one over and in front and sailed it.

2818
02:22:14,240 --> 02:22:19,240
Speaker 10: More points left on the board.

2819
02:22:18,160 --> 02:22:20,400
Speaker 6: Possibly late in the second court.

2820
02:22:20,480 --> 02:22:23,240
Speaker 10: Now only twelve seconds left when the Steelers started this possession.

2821
02:22:23,280 --> 02:22:26,760
Speaker 10: But they're starting at their thirty five and Rogers hit

2822
02:22:26,800 --> 02:22:29,920
Speaker 10: Austin on a slant and he was at full speed

2823
02:22:29,920 --> 02:22:34,160
Speaker 10: and he dropped it, and maybe they get in range

2824
02:22:34,160 --> 02:22:35,560
Speaker 10: for another fifty nine yard at there.

2825
02:22:35,600 --> 02:22:36,080
Speaker 6: Who knows.

2826
02:22:36,600 --> 02:22:39,680
Speaker 10: That's a minor one, but it isn't drop. Just kind

2827
02:22:39,680 --> 02:22:43,760
Speaker 10: of indicative of how they were playing third and two

2828
02:22:43,800 --> 02:22:48,120
Speaker 10: from the Pittsburgh thirty in the third quarter. You've just

2829
02:22:48,240 --> 02:22:50,879
Speaker 10: run Jalen Warren on second and five to get to

2830
02:22:51,000 --> 02:22:53,360
Speaker 10: third and two, and they try to pass and he

2831
02:22:53,400 --> 02:22:53,800
Speaker 10: got sacked.

2832
02:22:53,800 --> 02:22:55,320
Speaker 6: They're allowed to run on third and two.

2833
02:22:57,160 --> 02:23:00,720
Speaker 10: That might be an instance where they didn't to get

2834
02:23:00,720 --> 02:23:01,120
Speaker 10: the ball to.

2835
02:23:01,160 --> 02:23:02,480
Speaker 6: Jalen Warren enough.

2836
02:23:03,840 --> 02:23:08,560
Speaker 10: Bad break was the pass down the seam on third

2837
02:23:08,760 --> 02:23:12,520
Speaker 10: and eight. DK Metcalf collided with Derwin James.

2838
02:23:14,320 --> 02:23:15,720
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, it looked like.

2839
02:23:18,200 --> 02:23:19,000
Speaker 5: That was depf.

2840
02:23:19,120 --> 02:23:21,920
Speaker 6: Colls was talking about charge block, but I was in

2841
02:23:21,959 --> 02:23:23,480
Speaker 6: a charge of basketball.

2842
02:23:23,520 --> 02:23:26,280
Speaker 5: That's what we're talking about here, and that's just PFF

2843
02:23:26,360 --> 02:23:26,680
Speaker 5: or eighty.

2844
02:23:27,400 --> 02:23:30,600
Speaker 10: The series that kind of encapsulated just what a mess

2845
02:23:30,640 --> 02:23:33,959
Speaker 10: they were started late third quarter and then they were

2846
02:23:34,000 --> 02:23:37,039
Speaker 10: moving and they got themselves to a first and tent

2847
02:23:37,200 --> 02:23:41,000
Speaker 10: at the LA fourteen, they ran Jalen Warren for four yards.

2848
02:23:41,160 --> 02:23:43,920
Speaker 10: Now second and six again, you're allowed to keep running here.

2849
02:23:45,280 --> 02:23:48,680
Speaker 10: They tried a slant to Metcalf, and I listened to

2850
02:23:48,760 --> 02:23:51,480
Speaker 10: Rogers postgame. He talked about this. Bud Dupree was the

2851
02:23:51,560 --> 02:23:54,640
Speaker 10: right edge guy. They had scronic over there, and then

2852
02:23:54,640 --> 02:23:56,520
Speaker 10: they motioned them to the other side of the formation.

2853
02:23:56,920 --> 02:23:59,240
Speaker 10: So bud Duprex had a clear shot at the quarterback

2854
02:23:59,280 --> 02:24:00,000
Speaker 10: if he wanted it.

2855
02:24:00,480 --> 02:24:01,440
Speaker 6: He didn't take it.

2856
02:24:01,480 --> 02:24:05,959
Speaker 10: He stood there and Rogers said dupre was in the

2857
02:24:06,000 --> 02:24:07,959
Speaker 10: way of a slant of Metcalf, which is getting you

2858
02:24:07,959 --> 02:24:11,080
Speaker 10: a first down, if not a touchdown, assuming he catches it.

2859
02:24:11,879 --> 02:24:14,040
Speaker 10: So he had to just throw the ball away. When

2860
02:24:14,080 --> 02:24:18,400
Speaker 10: has budd dupre ever read a play. He's just a go,

2861
02:24:18,400 --> 02:24:19,080
Speaker 10: go go guy.

2862
02:24:19,160 --> 02:24:21,959
Speaker 3: Right, Well, do you think that bud dupre made that

2863
02:24:22,080 --> 02:24:24,480
Speaker 3: play or was it like commission or omission there?

2864
02:24:24,480 --> 02:24:25,039
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

2865
02:24:25,160 --> 02:24:28,480
Speaker 3: Like, did he luck into doing the wrong thing? I

2866
02:24:28,520 --> 02:24:30,959
Speaker 3: don't know, you know, did the wrong thing, but it

2867
02:24:31,040 --> 02:24:31,840
Speaker 3: ended up being the right thing.

2868
02:24:31,920 --> 02:24:33,240
Speaker 10: I don't know, but he had a free path that

2869
02:24:33,720 --> 02:24:36,480
Speaker 10: to a quarterback and he didn't take it, and it

2870
02:24:36,520 --> 02:24:38,040
Speaker 10: was a great play, great play.

2871
02:24:38,840 --> 02:24:40,000
Speaker 6: So now it's third down.

2872
02:24:40,240 --> 02:24:42,600
Speaker 10: This is when Rogers this was the one where I

2873
02:24:42,600 --> 02:24:44,760
Speaker 10: thought he really looked like, oh, get rid of it,

2874
02:24:44,840 --> 02:24:47,720
Speaker 10: like because the pressure was coming and he had gainwell

2875
02:24:47,800 --> 02:24:52,600
Speaker 10: in the flat overthrew him badly. Gamewell is being covered

2876
02:24:52,600 --> 02:24:57,760
Speaker 10: one on one by an inside linebacker Dane Henley. He's

2877
02:24:58,200 --> 02:24:59,880
Speaker 10: probably going to get the first down there at le

2878
02:25:00,280 --> 02:25:03,959
Speaker 10: and maybe score there, and it's an incomplete And then

2879
02:25:04,000 --> 02:25:08,000
Speaker 10: the throw on fourth down, Rogers said it was double coverage.

2880
02:25:08,040 --> 02:25:10,039
Speaker 10: The safety lined up on the near hash, but he

2881
02:25:10,080 --> 02:25:12,600
Speaker 10: didn't get there when the ball was there. It was

2882
02:25:12,640 --> 02:25:16,560
Speaker 10: one on one Metcalf and cam Hart, second year cornerback,

2883
02:25:16,920 --> 02:25:21,120
Speaker 10: not Sauce Gardner, Metcalf and cam Hart, and the ball

2884
02:25:21,200 --> 02:25:23,320
Speaker 10: was not placed where Metcalf could make a play on it.

2885
02:25:24,440 --> 02:25:26,360
Speaker 10: He's just I mean, that's where we're talking now about

2886
02:25:26,360 --> 02:25:26,959
Speaker 10: twenty one.

2887
02:25:26,800 --> 02:25:28,320
Speaker 6: Points on the board.

2888
02:25:28,320 --> 02:25:31,440
Speaker 10: It's a lot of play alone like that, let alone,

2889
02:25:31,440 --> 02:25:33,440
Speaker 10: how those changed the course of the way the game

2890
02:25:33,560 --> 02:25:36,360
Speaker 10: is being played. Maybe you get the charges a little

2891
02:25:36,400 --> 02:25:40,039
Speaker 10: out of their conservative throw it quick and run it often,

2892
02:25:40,280 --> 02:25:41,920
Speaker 10: and then maybe you kill the quarterback.

2893
02:25:42,480 --> 02:25:45,800
Speaker 6: Was the safety he took on that list because I

2894
02:25:45,840 --> 02:25:47,800
Speaker 6: thought that was a play where you could at least

2895
02:25:47,800 --> 02:25:50,080
Speaker 6: get sacked, you know, in the field of play, not

2896
02:25:50,200 --> 02:25:52,760
Speaker 6: in the end zone, or throw it away, throw it

2897
02:25:52,800 --> 02:25:55,360
Speaker 6: at somebody's feet. He's real good at that, agreed.

2898
02:25:55,760 --> 02:25:56,640
Speaker 5: Was that third down?

2899
02:25:58,480 --> 02:26:00,600
Speaker 6: I don't remember. I think it was, But that could

2900
02:26:00,600 --> 02:26:02,120
Speaker 6: have been worse. I mean, obviously it could have been

2901
02:26:02,120 --> 02:26:02,680
Speaker 6: a touchdown.

2902
02:26:04,000 --> 02:26:07,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, bad play, but it was two points in the

2903
02:26:07,080 --> 02:26:11,800
Speaker 10: first quarter. Score some touchdowns and were not on it

2904
02:26:13,800 --> 02:26:18,000
Speaker 10: that wasting? No, we were here.

2905
02:26:20,920 --> 02:26:23,519
Speaker 6: Third and seven from the Steelers nine.

2906
02:26:24,240 --> 02:26:26,199
Speaker 3: I'm just whistling the record of the ed Memphis gerald

2907
02:26:26,240 --> 02:26:29,080
Speaker 3: is Jeopardy music while he tries to find the information.

2908
02:26:29,120 --> 02:26:30,119
Speaker 4: Two ships going down.

2909
02:26:31,760 --> 02:26:34,240
Speaker 10: It's like it's bottom line. I mean, there were plenty

2910
02:26:34,280 --> 02:26:35,200
Speaker 10: of plays to be made.

2911
02:26:35,240 --> 02:26:35,560
Speaker 2: It was a.

2912
02:26:35,600 --> 02:26:38,240
Speaker 10: Desjointed night on offense. You make a couple, you get

2913
02:26:38,240 --> 02:26:41,000
Speaker 10: on a roll. Uh, they got to be better. They

2914
02:26:41,120 --> 02:26:45,240
Speaker 10: gotta be better. And there's no wide receiver coming over

2915
02:26:45,320 --> 02:26:46,920
Speaker 10: the horizon to save the day.

2916
02:26:47,160 --> 02:26:50,800
Speaker 6: MVS. What about MVS? Well, I think he's gonna get

2917
02:26:50,800 --> 02:26:51,119
Speaker 6: a look.

2918
02:26:51,160 --> 02:26:51,360
Speaker 2: Now.

2919
02:26:52,040 --> 02:26:53,160
Speaker 6: Well, let's put it this way.

2920
02:26:53,360 --> 02:26:57,560
Speaker 10: If Keishawn Williams had been doing fine as a return guy,

2921
02:26:58,600 --> 02:27:00,800
Speaker 10: not last night, you put ball on the ground.

2922
02:27:00,800 --> 02:27:01,520
Speaker 6: That is bad.

2923
02:27:02,400 --> 02:27:04,240
Speaker 10: And if they were looking for a way to get

2924
02:27:04,400 --> 02:27:08,120
Speaker 10: MVS into the lineup, you can take out eighty five,

2925
02:27:08,800 --> 02:27:11,240
Speaker 10: put Calvin Austin back to returning punts, which they think

2926
02:27:11,280 --> 02:27:14,680
Speaker 10: he's very good at, and see if Rogers and MVS

2927
02:27:14,720 --> 02:27:15,720
Speaker 10: can rekindle a.

2928
02:27:15,680 --> 02:27:16,360
Speaker 6: Little old match.

2929
02:27:16,520 --> 02:27:19,520
Speaker 10: Yeah, we'll make up baticalarly, since Austin had a real

2930
02:27:19,640 --> 02:27:23,600
Speaker 10: mediocre night receiving well one one off his hands for

2931
02:27:23,640 --> 02:27:25,840
Speaker 10: an interception and he was underthrown.

2932
02:27:26,560 --> 02:27:27,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, and he dropped one.

2933
02:27:27,720 --> 02:27:29,200
Speaker 10: And then there's another one he caught and he didn't get

2934
02:27:29,200 --> 02:27:30,720
Speaker 10: his feet down and he was out of bounds and

2935
02:27:30,720 --> 02:27:35,480
Speaker 10: he's easy catch. And can't go two for seven, no, Metcalf,

2936
02:27:35,480 --> 02:27:40,400
Speaker 10: can't go three for seven, just can't. It's not gonna

2937
02:27:40,400 --> 02:27:41,960
Speaker 10: work if that continues to be the case.

2938
02:27:42,200 --> 02:27:45,879
Speaker 3: Rob King, voice of the Pittsburgh Steelers, on the Steelers

2939
02:27:45,920 --> 02:27:48,520
Speaker 3: Audio Network, with us for a power hour of Steeler Talk.

2940
02:27:48,560 --> 02:27:50,199
Speaker 5: His phone's gone, man.

2941
02:27:50,400 --> 02:27:52,920
Speaker 6: The connection is going kind of like that game last night.

2942
02:27:53,000 --> 02:27:55,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, are you their Kinger, I'm here, okay.

2943
02:27:57,000 --> 02:28:00,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were just talking about all of the ways

2944
02:28:00,959 --> 02:28:02,920
Speaker 3: in which we left points on the board last night.

2945
02:28:03,800 --> 02:28:05,840
Speaker 3: They can't afford to do that this weekend because this

2946
02:28:05,959 --> 02:28:10,039
Speaker 3: is a high flying offense that forty year old Joe

2947
02:28:10,080 --> 02:28:13,520
Speaker 3: Flacco is piloting coming to Hinzfield Akroscher Stadium.

2948
02:28:13,560 --> 02:28:14,600
Speaker 5: Sorry on Sunday.

2949
02:28:15,520 --> 02:28:17,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, just in general, it has to be better.

2950
02:28:17,520 --> 02:28:20,400
Speaker 1: You know, it's feasted on short fields for the most part,

2951
02:28:20,480 --> 02:28:23,879
Speaker 1: it's feasted on turnovers. They're number one in the league

2952
02:28:24,000 --> 02:28:27,879
Speaker 1: in converting turnovers into points. They've got to be able

2953
02:28:27,920 --> 02:28:30,720
Speaker 1: to and look, you've done what you've been able to

2954
02:28:30,760 --> 02:28:33,000
Speaker 1: do to get to five and three prior to this game.

2955
02:28:33,040 --> 02:28:36,039
Speaker 1: I understand that, but I also think it's masking the

2956
02:28:36,080 --> 02:28:38,440
Speaker 1: fact that, again they've just got to find a way

2957
02:28:38,440 --> 02:28:41,480
Speaker 1: to maintain longer drives. They've got to find a way,

2958
02:28:41,879 --> 02:28:45,600
Speaker 1: you know, irrespective of getting turnovers and making you know,

2959
02:28:45,640 --> 02:28:49,680
Speaker 1: quote unquote splash plays on defensive, being able to manufacture

2960
02:28:49,720 --> 02:28:52,640
Speaker 1: their own points on offense, put together drives. It's been

2961
02:28:52,640 --> 02:28:54,760
Speaker 1: elusive for the Steelers for the most part this season.

2962
02:28:54,959 --> 02:28:56,480
Speaker 5: A quick breaking will be right back.

2963
02:28:56,600 --> 02:28:59,520
Speaker 3: More Steelers talk with Rob king this half Hour of

2964
02:28:59,520 --> 02:29:02,279
Speaker 3: the Power Hour, brought to you by Clearview Federal Credit

2965
02:29:02,400 --> 02:29:05,440
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2966
02:29:05,480 --> 02:29:08,199
Speaker 3: clear your radio home of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

2967
02:29:08,200 --> 02:29:10,360
Speaker 6: One out two point five DVE.

2968
02:29:10,800 --> 02:29:13,200
Speaker 3: We're with Rob King of Power Hour of Steeler Talk

2969
02:29:14,080 --> 02:29:16,840
Speaker 3: to finish out this morning show and give me some

2970
02:29:16,879 --> 02:29:18,520
Speaker 3: silver linings from last night, Rob.

2971
02:29:20,040 --> 02:29:22,120
Speaker 1: Defense is pretty good. I thought they ran the ball

2972
02:29:22,160 --> 02:29:22,760
Speaker 1: pretty well.

2973
02:29:27,640 --> 02:29:32,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you'll watch up.

2974
02:29:32,560 --> 02:29:35,360
Speaker 2: John had the pass rush. But they got five sacks

2975
02:29:35,360 --> 02:29:35,880
Speaker 2: on Herbert.

2976
02:29:37,080 --> 02:29:40,720
Speaker 1: You know, I look, you know, the the offense. I

2977
02:29:40,800 --> 02:29:42,959
Speaker 1: still go back to this. The offense needs to get

2978
02:29:43,000 --> 02:29:45,360
Speaker 1: out in front. The offense needs to dictate to the

2979
02:29:45,400 --> 02:29:48,200
Speaker 1: defense what they're going to do. Sometimes. You know, as

2980
02:29:48,280 --> 02:29:51,520
Speaker 1: much as you're trying to get turnovers, they happen best

2981
02:29:51,520 --> 02:29:53,240
Speaker 1: and most consistently when you force.

2982
02:29:53,160 --> 02:29:55,520
Speaker 2: The team to be one dimensional. When you know.

2983
02:29:55,480 --> 02:29:57,040
Speaker 1: Herbert's back and he's got to hold the ball a

2984
02:29:57,080 --> 02:29:58,680
Speaker 1: little longer because he's got to make a play down

2985
02:29:58,680 --> 02:30:00,680
Speaker 1: in the field, and now here comes Strip sacked.

2986
02:30:00,760 --> 02:30:01,959
Speaker 2: You know, they got to him.

2987
02:30:01,840 --> 02:30:05,240
Speaker 1: Plenty, and a lot of teams have gotten to Herbert plenty,

2988
02:30:05,240 --> 02:30:07,840
Speaker 1: but they sacked him five times. That should be five

2989
02:30:07,920 --> 02:30:10,280
Speaker 1: sacks should be a winning effort on defense. They've just

2990
02:30:10,280 --> 02:30:12,880
Speaker 1: got to find a way to be better offensively, Jalen Warren.

2991
02:30:13,000 --> 02:30:15,440
Speaker 1: You know, the running game, after a blip last week

2992
02:30:15,440 --> 02:30:19,160
Speaker 1: against the Colts, continues to be effective. They just can't

2993
02:30:19,200 --> 02:30:21,480
Speaker 1: run it enough because they don't have enough plays.

2994
02:30:21,840 --> 02:30:23,320
Speaker 2: So they've got to get the pass game going.

2995
02:30:23,360 --> 02:30:25,320
Speaker 1: They've got to and it's not just that They've got

2996
02:30:25,320 --> 02:30:28,760
Speaker 1: to find the sink offensively, you know, some way with

2997
02:30:28,840 --> 02:30:30,880
Speaker 1: throwing the ball and running the ball to keep drives going.

2998
02:30:31,879 --> 02:30:34,440
Speaker 3: Justin Herbert, you know, lost in all of this, was

2999
02:30:34,480 --> 02:30:35,640
Speaker 3: pretty good last night.

3000
02:30:35,720 --> 02:30:38,520
Speaker 1: He's terrific. I think he's a top five quarterback in

3001
02:30:38,560 --> 02:30:42,480
Speaker 1: the NFL. I agree, five, maybe six, you know, but

3002
02:30:42,520 --> 02:30:48,480
Speaker 1: he's somewhere in there. He's not always pinpoint, but he's

3003
02:30:48,640 --> 02:30:51,440
Speaker 1: accurate enough. You know, he led the league last year

3004
02:30:51,440 --> 02:30:53,840
Speaker 1: in the lowest interception percentage. He came in as a

3005
02:30:53,920 --> 02:30:56,279
Speaker 1: leading rusher in the league. He can really run.

3006
02:30:56,720 --> 02:30:57,000
Speaker 6: Tough.

3007
02:30:57,320 --> 02:30:58,320
Speaker 2: He's got it. He's tough.

3008
02:30:58,360 --> 02:31:01,720
Speaker 1: I mean he has taken a beating, is an absolute beating,

3009
02:31:02,080 --> 02:31:04,040
Speaker 1: and it's hung in the pocket. No quarterback has been

3010
02:31:04,120 --> 02:31:07,440
Speaker 1: hit more than Justin Herbert, and he just stands in

3011
02:31:07,480 --> 02:31:10,359
Speaker 1: the pocket, delivers it like you said, Yeah, tough, great.

3012
02:31:10,160 --> 02:31:12,280
Speaker 2: Arm talent, great physical talent.

3013
02:31:12,280 --> 02:31:14,959
Speaker 1: As far as running the ball, he made some great

3014
02:31:15,040 --> 02:31:19,000
Speaker 1: throws last night into very tight windows. Yeah, he's a

3015
02:31:19,040 --> 02:31:21,000
Speaker 1: great player. He's a great player.

3016
02:31:21,040 --> 02:31:25,320
Speaker 3: Which is why I'm hopeful from a defensive standpoint that

3017
02:31:25,400 --> 02:31:28,200
Speaker 3: it won't look as bad as it did last time

3018
02:31:28,320 --> 02:31:31,960
Speaker 3: against the Bengals, when the Steelers were an absolute mess

3019
02:31:32,360 --> 02:31:35,920
Speaker 3: that you know now infamous picture of Jamar Chase running

3020
02:31:36,360 --> 02:31:40,320
Speaker 3: free with the game on the line seemed to be

3021
02:31:40,360 --> 02:31:44,600
Speaker 3: the impetus for them right in the rudder. Defensively, that

3022
02:31:44,800 --> 02:31:48,640
Speaker 3: being said, you know we're talking about like running the

3023
02:31:48,640 --> 02:31:51,600
Speaker 3: ball and controlling the clock. They had a time possession

3024
02:31:51,600 --> 02:31:53,240
Speaker 3: disparity of sixteen minutes last night.

3025
02:31:53,240 --> 02:31:56,760
Speaker 5: He's like thirty eight to twenty two. Rob, I don't know.

3026
02:31:56,800 --> 02:31:58,959
Speaker 3: This is if this is a weekend where you do

3027
02:31:59,000 --> 02:32:01,160
Speaker 3: give it to Jalen war a whole lot and try

3028
02:32:01,200 --> 02:32:03,240
Speaker 3: to slow it down because they can come back and

3029
02:32:03,240 --> 02:32:04,080
Speaker 3: score so quickly.

3030
02:32:04,160 --> 02:32:06,440
Speaker 5: I mean you find yourself down pretty quick as well.

3031
02:32:06,480 --> 02:32:06,680
Speaker 2: Mike.

3032
02:32:07,160 --> 02:32:08,200
Speaker 6: I think you got to score it.

3033
02:32:08,240 --> 02:32:10,920
Speaker 10: However, you got to do that if it means big

3034
02:32:10,959 --> 02:32:13,039
Speaker 10: plays and going fast, do that. If it means you're

3035
02:32:13,080 --> 02:32:16,200
Speaker 10: able to control it and still score. Fine, but you

3036
02:32:16,240 --> 02:32:20,959
Speaker 10: can't play keep away before you play change the scoreboard.

3037
02:32:21,560 --> 02:32:23,480
Speaker 10: They have to score points this week.

3038
02:32:23,520 --> 02:32:24,039
Speaker 6: They have to.

3039
02:32:25,480 --> 02:32:28,640
Speaker 3: So you guys don't see Saamlu being out as big

3040
02:32:28,680 --> 02:32:30,880
Speaker 3: of a deal as I do. Oh, I do, okay,

3041
02:32:31,240 --> 02:32:34,200
Speaker 3: because I think that it was disastrous, you know, and

3042
02:32:34,240 --> 02:32:37,160
Speaker 3: I know Rogers was bad also, but he did not

3043
02:32:37,280 --> 02:32:38,720
Speaker 3: have a lot of time to move last night.

3044
02:32:38,760 --> 02:32:40,360
Speaker 2: Rob he didn't.

3045
02:32:40,400 --> 02:32:44,480
Speaker 1: And again, you know it's not just hey, Aaron Rodgers

3046
02:32:44,560 --> 02:32:46,360
Speaker 1: needs to be better. Aaron Rodgers said last night he

3047
02:32:46,400 --> 02:32:48,360
Speaker 1: needs to be better. Yeah, that's part of it. But

3048
02:32:48,520 --> 02:32:50,200
Speaker 1: you need to be able to I mean, you know,

3049
02:32:50,240 --> 02:32:51,840
Speaker 1: Mike is sort of alluding to this, and we've seen

3050
02:32:51,840 --> 02:32:53,240
Speaker 1: this a couple times. I mean, they scored a bunch

3051
02:32:53,240 --> 02:32:54,840
Speaker 1: of points against the Jets, they scored a bunch of

3052
02:32:54,959 --> 02:32:56,080
Speaker 1: points against the Bengals and.

3053
02:32:56,080 --> 02:32:59,720
Speaker 2: A loss, and I think we've seen elements. Right, you

3054
02:32:59,760 --> 02:33:00,520
Speaker 2: need to be able.

3055
02:33:00,400 --> 02:33:03,200
Speaker 1: To win a game in numerous ways offensively, you need

3056
02:33:03,240 --> 02:33:04,800
Speaker 1: to be able to win a shootout. You need to

3057
02:33:04,800 --> 02:33:06,880
Speaker 1: be able to have enough character to win a low

3058
02:33:06,920 --> 02:33:08,879
Speaker 1: scoring game. We've seen this Tooers, I think have enough

3059
02:33:08,920 --> 02:33:09,440
Speaker 1: character to do that.

3060
02:33:09,480 --> 02:33:11,360
Speaker 2: We've seen him win shootouts. But we have not.

3061
02:33:11,480 --> 02:33:15,280
Speaker 1: Seen is is they you know, I wouldn't even call

3062
02:33:15,320 --> 02:33:18,000
Speaker 1: it game in and game out consistency. It's within the

3063
02:33:18,000 --> 02:33:21,280
Speaker 1: confines of a game. You've got to find a way.

3064
02:33:21,360 --> 02:33:24,160
Speaker 1: And I keep harping on this. Mike Tomlins said it

3065
02:33:24,240 --> 02:33:26,800
Speaker 1: last night. Aaron Rodgers said it last night. You've got

3066
02:33:26,800 --> 02:33:28,879
Speaker 1: to find a way to keep drives going. You cannot

3067
02:33:28,920 --> 02:33:31,520
Speaker 1: have these three and outs. You cannot put this amount

3068
02:33:31,520 --> 02:33:33,920
Speaker 1: of scratch and pressure on your defense. And you've got

3069
02:33:33,959 --> 02:33:35,520
Speaker 1: to be able to score more points. You've got to

3070
02:33:35,520 --> 02:33:37,960
Speaker 1: be more effective. You know, we talk about more Jail

3071
02:33:38,000 --> 02:33:40,520
Speaker 1: and Warren well, you know, whether it's throw to run

3072
02:33:40,600 --> 02:33:42,600
Speaker 1: or run to throw, you've got to get you know,

3073
02:33:42,840 --> 02:33:44,800
Speaker 1: like the Eagles are kind of a you know, known

3074
02:33:44,879 --> 02:33:46,920
Speaker 1: for you know, throw the ball in the first half,

3075
02:33:47,000 --> 02:33:47,879
Speaker 1: run the ball in the second half.

3076
02:33:47,879 --> 02:33:48,880
Speaker 2: I don't care how you do it.

3077
02:33:48,920 --> 02:33:50,560
Speaker 1: You just got to You got to get first downs

3078
02:33:50,560 --> 02:33:53,039
Speaker 1: and move the ball better from game to game. It's

3079
02:33:53,080 --> 02:33:55,160
Speaker 1: not just hey, we did it last week, we can't

3080
02:33:55,160 --> 02:33:57,560
Speaker 1: do this week now. They've got to do it within

3081
02:33:57,600 --> 02:33:59,520
Speaker 1: the game itself. It's not a week to week thing.

3082
02:33:59,680 --> 02:34:01,240
Speaker 1: It's a it's an in game thing.

3083
02:34:02,360 --> 02:34:03,240
Speaker 2: Pretty much every.

3084
02:34:03,160 --> 02:34:09,280
Speaker 3: Week outside of the obvious depth. Does slaves injury should

3085
02:34:09,280 --> 02:34:12,840
Speaker 3: he not be able to go this weekend hurt the Steelers.

3086
02:34:12,680 --> 02:34:15,640
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean they're thin. You know, they went into

3087
02:34:15,680 --> 02:34:18,480
Speaker 1: the game and Mike Tomlin said this last week. You know,

3088
02:34:18,520 --> 02:34:22,000
Speaker 1: we put Jalen Ramsey at safety because we have more

3089
02:34:22,040 --> 02:34:23,199
Speaker 1: corners than we have safeties.

3090
02:34:23,280 --> 02:34:23,640
Speaker 2: Right now.

3091
02:34:24,480 --> 02:34:28,480
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I don't know Jabill Pepper's status. You know,

3092
02:34:28,600 --> 02:34:31,800
Speaker 1: Chuck Clark was back there last night, but clearly they

3093
02:34:31,800 --> 02:34:34,400
Speaker 1: want Jalen Ramsey and Kyle Dugger to be the safety

3094
02:34:34,400 --> 02:34:39,280
Speaker 1: combination for now until Elliott gets back, and then maybe

3095
02:34:39,280 --> 02:34:42,879
Speaker 1: you figure something out if he even gets back. Yeah,

3096
02:34:41,760 --> 02:34:44,760
Speaker 1: it's an issue. I mean, you know, look, they put

3097
02:34:44,840 --> 02:34:46,680
Speaker 1: him out there because they think he's the best outside

3098
02:34:46,720 --> 02:34:47,320
Speaker 1: corner they have.

3099
02:34:47,640 --> 02:34:50,000
Speaker 2: And Eccles in the slot, well, now you're out.

3100
02:34:49,840 --> 02:34:53,360
Speaker 1: That and I thought James Pierre for the most part,

3101
02:34:53,400 --> 02:34:56,039
Speaker 1: really played well last night. So you have Pierre and Eccles,

3102
02:34:56,080 --> 02:34:59,360
Speaker 1: but you know, you're starting to get really really thin

3103
02:34:59,400 --> 02:35:00,000
Speaker 1: in the back end.

3104
02:35:00,320 --> 02:35:02,600
Speaker 6: Well, at least you don't have the Bengals coming into town.

3105
02:35:05,240 --> 02:35:07,840
Speaker 3: They got to get to Joe Flacco. They gotta get

3106
02:35:07,879 --> 02:35:09,600
Speaker 3: to Joe. Do you know, by the way, last night,

3107
02:35:09,680 --> 02:35:12,680
Speaker 3: Corny Matt Williamson. The Chargers only blitzed once.

3108
02:35:14,000 --> 02:35:15,800
Speaker 2: Okay, they're not a heavy blitzing team.

3109
02:35:16,240 --> 02:35:19,440
Speaker 1: They blitzed six, the fewest of anybody in the NFL,

3110
02:35:19,760 --> 02:35:21,359
Speaker 1: so that wasn't totally unexpected.

3111
02:35:21,400 --> 02:35:24,000
Speaker 2: But they have excellent you know, they still get pressure.

3112
02:35:24,160 --> 02:35:26,200
Speaker 5: Oh my god, they had so much pressure at that point.

3113
02:35:26,440 --> 02:35:28,440
Speaker 2: I mean, uh, those edge guys.

3114
02:35:28,520 --> 02:35:31,160
Speaker 1: You know, Oh Way had four sacks and four games

3115
02:35:31,200 --> 02:35:34,640
Speaker 1: since he came from Baltimore. You know, Tuley Polo two

3116
02:35:34,800 --> 02:35:38,080
Speaker 1: is uh was I think fifth in the league in

3117
02:35:38,120 --> 02:35:38,920
Speaker 1: sacks of seven.

3118
02:35:39,400 --> 02:35:39,560
Speaker 2: Uh.

3119
02:35:39,600 --> 02:35:41,880
Speaker 1: You know, Khalil Mack was hurt. So you look, oh

3120
02:35:41,959 --> 02:35:44,920
Speaker 1: he's only got three sacks. They only played five games.

3121
02:35:45,440 --> 02:35:46,280
Speaker 1: You're still a force.

3122
02:35:46,440 --> 02:35:46,560
Speaker 16: Uh.

3123
02:35:46,600 --> 02:35:50,119
Speaker 1: And even you know, Boyd Be on the inside had

3124
02:35:50,160 --> 02:35:53,520
Speaker 1: three sacks coming in. So yeah, they're a good pass

3125
02:35:53,600 --> 02:35:55,560
Speaker 1: rushing unit. They don't have to bring a lot of pressure.

3126
02:35:55,600 --> 02:35:58,720
Speaker 1: And again, when you can do that, it's hard to

3127
02:35:58,760 --> 02:36:01,560
Speaker 1: get receivers open. And and you know, Aaron Rodgers said

3128
02:36:01,560 --> 02:36:03,280
Speaker 1: this last night, and I agree with him. This is

3129
02:36:03,320 --> 02:36:05,560
Speaker 1: part of the assessment. People are gonna say Aaron Rodgers

3130
02:36:05,600 --> 02:36:07,959
Speaker 1: wasn't sharp. Aaron Rodgers said he wasn't sharp. I didn't

3131
02:36:07,959 --> 02:36:10,000
Speaker 1: see a lot of guys running free last night, either.

3132
02:36:11,280 --> 02:36:13,400
Speaker 3: Rob King, voice of the Pittsburgh Steelers right here on

3133
02:36:13,440 --> 02:36:15,800
Speaker 3: your radio, home of the Black and Gold, one of

3134
02:36:15,920 --> 02:36:18,560
Speaker 3: two point five dv E, and the Steelers Audio network

3135
02:36:18,560 --> 02:36:22,560
Speaker 3: cranks up again this Sunday here on the flagship. It's

3136
02:36:22,640 --> 02:36:25,960
Speaker 3: Steelers Bengals. That's a one o'clock kickoff.

3137
02:36:26,320 --> 02:36:28,960
Speaker 6: That's the good news. It's a day game. We don't

3138
02:36:28,959 --> 02:36:30,520
Speaker 6: have to play anymore night games. Robin.

3139
02:36:31,600 --> 02:36:31,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

3140
02:36:31,840 --> 02:36:34,959
Speaker 1: For whatever reason, Miami, Yeah, primetime has not been good

3141
02:36:34,959 --> 02:36:35,640
Speaker 1: to the Steelers.

3142
02:36:35,720 --> 02:36:38,599
Speaker 2: I'm not sure why. That is zero to three in primetime.

3143
02:36:38,240 --> 02:36:40,359
Speaker 5: Right now, and Miami just beat the Bills.

3144
02:36:40,440 --> 02:36:42,880
Speaker 4: What is going on in Miami right now?

3145
02:36:42,879 --> 02:36:43,240
Speaker 6: I don't know.

3146
02:36:43,600 --> 02:36:46,480
Speaker 1: It's the weirdest year in the NFL. I a minute,

3147
02:36:46,480 --> 02:36:49,400
Speaker 1: you think, okay, yep, the Lions are really good. They

3148
02:36:49,440 --> 02:36:51,440
Speaker 1: lose to the Packers. Well, you know what the Chiefs though,

3149
02:36:51,440 --> 02:36:54,200
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are back. They get hammered by the Bills. Well,

3150
02:36:54,240 --> 02:36:55,480
Speaker 1: the Bills are clearly the team.

3151
02:36:55,520 --> 02:36:57,520
Speaker 2: They get smoked by the Dolphins.

3152
02:36:58,040 --> 02:37:00,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. This is I don't know

3153
02:37:00,840 --> 02:37:02,880
Speaker 1: what you guys think. I think we've mentioned this before.

3154
02:37:02,920 --> 02:37:05,200
Speaker 1: I don't ever remember a year like this. I mean

3155
02:37:05,240 --> 02:37:07,320
Speaker 1: you look up, who are who are the best two teams?

3156
02:37:07,480 --> 02:37:10,959
Speaker 1: The Patriots and the Seahawks. Maybe they are those two

3157
02:37:11,040 --> 02:37:12,280
Speaker 1: the best two teams in football.

3158
02:37:12,440 --> 02:37:14,720
Speaker 5: Seahawks thumped the Cardinals yesterday.

3159
02:37:14,879 --> 02:37:20,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the Patriots beat the box right, Yeah,

3160
02:37:20,520 --> 02:37:21,879
Speaker 1: I mean they look good.

3161
02:37:22,360 --> 02:37:23,840
Speaker 2: They're good. Yeah.

3162
02:37:23,879 --> 02:37:26,320
Speaker 1: And by the way, look at the two teams. Look

3163
02:37:26,360 --> 02:37:27,720
Speaker 1: at two of the teams, the two Theys would beat.

3164
02:37:28,000 --> 02:37:30,480
Speaker 1: They they've hung the only loss in the Colts and

3165
02:37:30,520 --> 02:37:32,400
Speaker 1: one of the only two losses on the Patriots.

3166
02:37:35,080 --> 02:37:37,560
Speaker 2: It's a weird year, man, It's a weird year.

3167
02:37:38,440 --> 02:37:41,160
Speaker 3: Rob King, Thanks so much, buddy, appreciate you. Also thanks

3168
02:37:41,160 --> 02:37:43,200
Speaker 3: to Jerry D. Lank and Tim Bens for joining us

3169
02:37:43,440 --> 02:37:45,960
Speaker 3: tomorrow on the show, Charlie Batch, Jeans, Sterotor, and a

3170
02:37:45,959 --> 02:37:48,400
Speaker 3: whole lot more for you. Michelle's coming on next with

3171
02:37:48,440 --> 02:37:50,680
Speaker 3: the Electric Lunch at noon. Have a great day, everybody.

3172
02:37:50,879 --> 02:37:54,400
Speaker 6: I'm finished. You say, classy Pittsburgh, don't touch your face.

3173
02:37:54,560 --> 02:37:58,400
Speaker 6: I got him day, Bergy, But now you call me Ronald?

3174
02:37:58,440 --> 02:37:59,600
Speaker 4: Would you not eat my pants?

3175
02:38:02,840 --> 02:38:06,920
Speaker 6: Ooh whay, gogglehead.

3176
02:38:10,000 --> 02:38:13,119
Speaker 9: It's time for the Steelers Daily Report on DVE, brought

3177
02:38:13,160 --> 02:38:14,800
Speaker 9: to you by First National Bank.

3178
02:38:14,959 --> 02:38:15,760
Speaker 2: Let's get started.

3179
02:38:15,800 --> 02:38:19,080
Speaker 9: Remember FDIC and Steelers Pro Shop. Get it direct from

3180
02:38:19,120 --> 02:38:21,240
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3181
02:38:21,440 --> 02:38:22,480
Speaker 6: Here's Tom Opperman.

3182
02:38:22,560 --> 02:38:24,240
Speaker 27: The Steelers lost twenty five to ten to the Los

3183
02:38:24,240 --> 02:38:26,400
Speaker 27: Angeles Chargers on Sunday Night Football in a game where

3184
02:38:26,400 --> 02:38:28,840
Speaker 27: the Steelers offense struggled to say the least. They only

3185
02:38:28,840 --> 02:38:31,000
Speaker 27: gained two hundred and twenty total yards for the game,

3186
02:38:31,360 --> 02:38:33,440
Speaker 27: but the biggest shortcoming was, no doubt, their failures on

3187
02:38:33,560 --> 02:38:35,840
Speaker 27: third down, where the team was two for eleven on

3188
02:38:35,959 --> 02:38:38,800
Speaker 27: third down conversions. They didn't convert their first third down

3189
02:38:38,879 --> 02:38:40,840
Speaker 27: until there was less than five minutes remaining in the

3190
02:38:40,879 --> 02:38:41,400
Speaker 27: fourth quarter.

3191
02:38:41,879 --> 02:38:43,599
Speaker 6: Steelers quarterback Aaron Rodgers.

3192
02:38:43,360 --> 02:38:46,080
Speaker 27: Really struggled last night, posting his worst performance so far

3193
02:38:46,160 --> 02:38:49,120
Speaker 27: as the Pittsburgh Steeler. Rogers completed just sixteen of his

3194
02:38:49,240 --> 02:38:51,360
Speaker 27: thirty one passes for a measly one hundred and sixty

3195
02:38:51,360 --> 02:38:54,840
Speaker 27: one yards, a touchdown, and he threw two picks. On

3196
02:38:54,920 --> 02:38:57,160
Speaker 27: the Chargers side of things, their defense was able to

3197
02:38:57,160 --> 02:39:00,480
Speaker 27: sack Rogers three times in force two takeaways, while offensively,

3198
02:39:00,640 --> 02:39:02,920
Speaker 27: quarterback Justin Herbert threw for two hundred and twenty yards

3199
02:39:02,920 --> 02:39:05,480
Speaker 27: and one touchdown, and his connection with wide receiver Lad

3200
02:39:05,600 --> 02:39:08,039
Speaker 27: McConkey was strong as the whiteout, went for one hundred

3201
02:39:08,040 --> 02:39:10,120
Speaker 27: and seven yards on just four catches, and he was

3202
02:39:10,160 --> 02:39:13,320
Speaker 27: the recipient of Herbert's one touchdown pass. The loss drops

3203
02:39:13,360 --> 02:39:15,080
Speaker 27: the Steelers to five and four as they try to

3204
02:39:15,120 --> 02:39:18,279
Speaker 27: bounce back against the Cincinnati Bengals this Sunday at Akroshuer Stadium.

3205
02:39:18,959 --> 02:39:23,279
Speaker 6: I'm Tom op Fromen with the Steelers report at FNB.

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Speaker 6: We rewrote the rule