1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: Call it night right, Stirling and donnade back together again. 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: I got electrocuted by the microphone. Donnad you all right? 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: What mic are you on there? What number is at four? 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: I think Mike four. We need to get loved there. Yeah, 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 1: there you go, I go, yeah, all right. 6 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 2: I mean the technical issues all day. Who it sounds 7 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 2: weird too, That's all right. Maybe I should live to 8 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 2: another I don't know. 9 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 3: We'll figure it out. Who knows. 10 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: There's a lot of ghosts in the machine. Russ Jackson's 11 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: producing another update with Brady and news coming up in 12 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: about twenty one minutes and change later. Charlene Graham, Professor 13 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: law Chase and Kay, you're going to talk about election 14 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: and interference issues and also some stuff dealing with I 15 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: think with the sex trafficking, right. 16 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Epstein file. Something's wrong with this. Mike is 17 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 2: here you Yeah. 18 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: Let's grab another switch and while you do that, I'll 19 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: interest the introduce the well Informed, lovely talented Now Professor 20 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: Emerita Cincinnati Kidd, former had a political science at Wright State. 21 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: Doctor Dona shleg Welcome back to seven hundred WLW with 22 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: Sterling and Donnadee. 23 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 3: How are you. 24 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 4: Doing well? Enjoying the cold weather advisory weather. But I 25 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 4: have to say he got lucky this time. They plowed 26 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 4: the snow and it stayed frozen. So that reminds me 27 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 4: of Minnesota. 28 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, it does. 29 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 1: And you spent a little bit of time there obviously 30 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: a number of years ago. We know the stuff that's 31 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: been going on there. Let's start if we can, And 32 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, with so much news happening so fast, 33 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: what seems to be a really major topic a kind 34 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: of concern is the Atlanta Fulton County, Georgia ballots that 35 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: were seized by the FBI, with apparently from the Secretary 36 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: of State and Georgia saying no receipts, no documentation, no 37 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: way to look and compare and contrast with anything that 38 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: may come out or be said or inferred or accused 39 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: or whatever else about what has already been disproven as 40 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: far as it being a Shenanigan's with the outcome of 41 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty election, what do you take away from 42 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: what you know of this circumstance right now? 43 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,679 Speaker 4: Boy, it leaves me with a lot of questions. I 44 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 4: would start with how many times does the taxpayer have 45 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 4: to have those ballots recounted. They've been recounted at least 46 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 4: twice that I know of, and then the whole system 47 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 4: was audited again. So as taxpayers, it's like, you know, 48 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 4: how many times until we like the outcome, And you're right. 49 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 4: The presence of the Director of National Intelligence at an 50 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 4: FBI search and documents issue is strange. I've never heard of. 51 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 5: Such a thing. 52 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 4: Her mission is coordinating, you know, foreign intelligence. FBI's job 53 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 4: is to be working on the ground, so it leaves 54 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 4: us to speculate that she may be looking for some 55 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 4: foreign interference in the process. You recall after the twenty 56 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 4: twenty election, there was talk about machines being reprogrammed in 57 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 4: Italy or Venezuelan ownership of you know, one of the 58 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 4: voting machines, none of which were true, and they've all 59 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 4: been looked into. I think the cybersecurity people said it 60 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 4: was the most secure election we have conducted. But notwithstanding 61 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 4: a judge you know, signed the search warrant and all 62 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 4: of those documents. As you said, the job of the 63 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 4: election officials in Atlanta, in Sulton County is the sanctity 64 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 4: and protecting and preserving those ballots. Typically you just have 65 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 4: to preserve them for a couple of years after an election, 66 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 4: but there was a court order to preserve them, and 67 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 4: there's obviously been an effort by people who believe that 68 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 4: the election was fraudulent, you know, to get their hands 69 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 4: on these documents. But you know, Sterling, the real question 70 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 4: for me is why did they also seize voting records? 71 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 4: You know, why do you need to why? What is 72 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 4: the interest in the federal government in citizens? It won't 73 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 4: have much to do with the twenty twenty eight voter role. 74 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 4: You know, voter roles can change every day, right, people die, 75 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 4: people get eligible. But those voting records were also seized. 76 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 4: Lots of questions, lots of questions about where this one 77 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 4: is going. There were questions about Tulsa Gabbert, the Director 78 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 4: of National Intel, whose job is to coordinate foreign intelligence, 79 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 4: who was completely cut out of the operation in Venezuela 80 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 4: to bring President Moduro and his wife to the United States, 81 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 4: which is odd you'd think that, you know, CIA, NSA, 82 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 4: all of those foreign intelligence agencies would have been coordinated 83 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 4: in order to make that that mission operational. 84 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 5: She was cut out. 85 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 4: So you raise Tulsa Gabbert, and it is nothing but 86 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 4: another series of questions what do they want them for? 87 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 4: The voter rolls as well? Lots of questions. It is 88 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 4: a curious move, and yet the president continues to insist 89 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 4: it was a fraudulent election after multiple how many sixty 90 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 4: court decisions, multiple recounts, Sterling, it appears to be looking 91 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,239 Speaker 4: for evidence to support someone's case. I have no idea 92 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 4: what they told a judge was happening in order to 93 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 4: seize all of those records and no receipt. It doesn't 94 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 4: sound like my government. 95 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: Does it. 96 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,799 Speaker 4: Typically you'd expect there'd be some sort of a receipt 97 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 4: at the end. So in court, what could you argue 98 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 4: about those ballots? They've been audited twice, they recounted twice 99 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 4: and audited again. What will they find? What will we hear? 100 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 4: Is this another red herring to distract us from Epstein files. 101 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 4: We are close to a possible military operation in Iran. 102 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 4: You know, the government of Saudi Arabia basically publicly informed 103 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 4: Iran that no missile attacks on Iran would be coming 104 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 4: from Saudi territory. How embarrassed. I mean, it's interesting on 105 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 4: every front, Sterling, with a lot more open questions. 106 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 2: Doctor Donna. So you know, I every day is a giant, 107 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 2: crazy news story. I mean, if you for the last 108 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 2: two weeks, I think we're all exhausted from it, you know, 109 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 2: trying to take over Greenland and the ICE agents breaking in, 110 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 2: you know, you know, breaking into people's cars and windows, 111 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 2: and the violence going on across the country with the 112 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: Ice and border patrol and people having access to your 113 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 2: home without a warrant. I mean, the Epstein files. They 114 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 2: they you know, stealing the voter information out. It's literally 115 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 2: it's one and then we all get upset and then 116 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 2: it goes away because there's another thing. I mean, what 117 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 2: is going on here? Do you think? 118 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 4: I am struck by the fact that this is our 119 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 4: second government shutdown pending hopefully it will be extremely brief. 120 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 4: But I would point out that the two issues that 121 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:17,239 Speaker 4: have brought things to a grinding halt, albeit temporarily, are 122 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 4: you know, the health insurance premiums back in in November 123 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 4: and now trying to throw some light on the conduct 124 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 4: of ICE and you know, the border patrol teams. Apparently 125 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 4: some of the conditions the Democrats want to talk about 126 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 4: is I hate to call it this rules of engagement. 127 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 4: When you are deployed, you know, in an American city. Uh, 128 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 4: you know, questions about masks, those administrative warrants that you 129 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 4: said that are being used to kick indoors, not signed 130 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 4: by a judge but by an administrator, maybe requiring them 131 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 4: all to wear body cameras, rules of engagement for domestic operations. 132 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 4: You know, call me pussy tATu. You know, my head 133 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 4: starts to spin at this point, Donna about the way 134 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 4: boundaries are being pressed. But I would suggest that the 135 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 4: Democrats picked two very relevant issues, obviously the cost of 136 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 4: health care and very unexpectedly now the conduct of you know, 137 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,679 Speaker 4: people who are part of ICE. It's also unfortunately bringing 138 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 4: us to a government shutdown. It's exactly the time you 139 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 4: don't want air traffic controllers, for example, or TSA agents. 140 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 4: The military will all the active duty will be working 141 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,959 Speaker 4: but not paid. It hopefully will just be a couple 142 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 4: of days the irs, you know, Will it be funded. 143 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 4: It happens to be the beginning of taxis And there's 144 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 4: never a good time obviously for a shutdown. But the 145 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 4: conversation in the next two weeks if the House passes, 146 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 4: you know, the two weeks sort of interim so we 147 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 4: can talk about details. Has to do with accountability of law. 148 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 4: Enforcement when they're in a domestic American city. Boy, that 149 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 4: concentrates the thinking. I will stay tuned for the NKU 150 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 4: conversation that you have coming up. 151 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: It's a very disturbing list of things that both of 152 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: you just sort of laid out there. I'm just trying 153 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: to enjoy the saturdays. You know, you people are driving 154 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: me crazy. 155 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 2: There's a ton of other things on the list. We 156 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 2: just mentioned the top seven thinking. 157 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: I love you both, Doctor Donna Schleike, by the way, 158 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: it is with us Professor Merit, a former head of 159 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: political science of Right State. 160 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 3: She is a Cincinnati kid. 161 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,599 Speaker 1: Stirling and Donnade hanging out later Charlene Grant, professor of 162 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: law from kau Chase School about a number of things 163 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: sort of intertwined with this as far as the shutdown 164 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: is concerned. Because I thought they reached a partial deal. 165 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: So there is a partial deal, but it's not a 166 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:50,719 Speaker 1: full deal deal. I don't understand what the deal means. Yeah, 167 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't understand who's doing what, who's not working, 168 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: who is working? We're working, you're working. You're not even 169 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: getting paid. You're a professor, Marita. Holy crap, Rus Jackson, 170 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: He's just worried about he's watching the you know, the 171 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: dogs on the TV and waiting to visit the kids. 172 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: I mean, what is going on, doctor Vannah? 173 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 4: Well for mental health, I definitely recommend the agility trials, right, 174 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 4: That's definitely the best place on television. And you know, 175 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 4: the good news is sterling to your comment that the 176 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 4: Senate pass to bill five of the six major bills 177 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 4: includes you know, defense, et cetera. You know, the mail 178 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 4: will continue to run Social Security, but the House cannot 179 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 4: vote on a bill without seventy two hours notice to 180 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 4: their members, so it cannot actually be voted on and 181 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 4: approved until Monday, and then it's only for two weeks 182 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 4: so that they can write out the new conditions under 183 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 4: which I send Department of Homeland Security can resume their operations, 184 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 4: but with some of those guidelines, those rules of engagement. 185 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 4: So the five bills are ready to go, but we've 186 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 4: got this two week hold. Particularly they want to lay 187 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 4: down some ground rules. I think it's a conversation. People 188 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 4: who are interested in law and order and who want 189 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 4: to be safe and secure in their homes and their 190 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 4: property should be very interested in hucking Jeffries, the speaker 191 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 4: of the you know, the leader of the minority in 192 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 4: the House basically just said he doesn't plan to work 193 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 4: too hard to help Michael Johnson get this bill passed. 194 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 4: And you know how narrow the Republican voting majority is 195 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 4: in the House, so all eyes will be watching that 196 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 4: vote on Monday. And again it's just that stop gap 197 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 4: to get us through, but it involves people that include 198 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 4: national security, you know, obviously air traffic controllers, people you 199 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 4: want on the job twenty four to seven and who 200 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 4: you want to be paid on a very reliable basis, 201 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 4: so they are. It is cobbling it another you know, 202 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 4: stop gap, stop gap. 203 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 5: Set of bills get us through. 204 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 4: But with this very pregnant pause on the Department of 205 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 4: Homeland Securities, whose budget has ballooned. If we have a 206 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 4: form of GLPS for the Department of Homeland Security, now 207 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 4: would be the time to start prescribing it. But I 208 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 4: think what we might get are some ground rules to 209 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 4: try to prevent you know, the motion that Minnesota had 210 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 4: filed try to get Ice to withdraw was actually filed 211 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 4: before either of the deaths happened in Minneapolis couples. 212 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 5: That's interesting. 213 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 4: It could not go well, yes, and it went badly quickly. 214 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 2: So, doctor Donnad. The temperature here in Cincinnati's thirteen degrees 215 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:49,239 Speaker 2: and it's been minus degrees sometimes in the double digits 216 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 2: in Minneapolis, and there are people out protesting, a lot 217 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 2: of people. There were people last night in downtown Cincinnati protesting, 218 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 2: and it is freezing. I mean, I can't stay out 219 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 2: for more than ten minutes with my dog. But are 220 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 2: the politicians listening to that? Do they care? I mean, 221 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 2: what is your take on that. I mean, I know 222 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 2: that that that some of them are and are trying 223 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 2: to do something, But overall, do they just dismiss people 224 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 2: like that are out protesting in this kind of weather? 225 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 4: I don't think so, Donna. I was struck by the 226 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 4: account of President Trump's return from the Davos conference, and 227 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 4: that was when, you know, the big storm hit and 228 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 4: the President stayed in Washington, d C. To obviously catch 229 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 4: up on things and travel to mar Lago would have 230 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 4: been well, even more complicated, but he was stuck in DC, watching, 231 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 4: watching the protest that whole long, cold, bitter weekend. I 232 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 4: know we've all tried to push it back into the 233 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 4: you know, the back of our memory. He was watching 234 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 4: it personally and it's this is not a win or 235 00:13:56,200 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 4: a loose situation. But did the administration blink? Was mister Bovino? 236 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 4: You know, the head of the Border Protection guys moved out? Yes, 237 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 4: Tom Home and head of ICE was sent in. 238 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 6: Yes. 239 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 4: Conversations happening with local governors and the local mayor. They 240 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 4: do pay attention. The sizeable protests New York and LA. 241 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 4: I think had the other two big ones. Okay, granted 242 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 4: they had slightly better weather in LA, but large, you know, 243 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 4: tens of thousands of people in the city. Politicians pay attention. 244 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 4: Your federal politicians paid attention. That's why we have the snag, 245 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 4: the massive snag and the budget process right now. Democrats 246 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 4: knew they had an opportunity to raise these questions to 247 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 4: tie the budget directly to the violence and the protests. 248 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 4: So Donna, I think we have evidence this time around 249 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 4: that they were paying attention from the very top down. 250 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 4: Are people in Minnesota watching to see what actually happens 251 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 4: on the street, Oh yeah, absolutely, that want to make 252 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 4: sure that the drawdown that Tom Holman said would be 253 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 4: coming comes very promptly. But the protests at the large, 254 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 4: they've been peaceful, but they have been on television constantly. 255 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 3: Doctor, I think I'm sorry. 256 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 4: I would just say I think we have a leadership 257 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 4: in elected office and wanting to be back in elective 258 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 4: offices who are paying attention. 259 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: Doctor Donischle former had a political science of right state 260 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: with Sterling and Donnady. Look, we only have about a 261 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: minute and a half left. And this is in relation 262 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: to what is coming into the Springfield area where there 263 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: are ten fifteen thousand people that are from Haiti who 264 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: had temporary protections here that we're filling jobs and opening 265 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: businesses and contributing for an extended period of time jobs 266 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: that could not be filled. Is these businesses now are 267 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: going to be searching for new people. I guess there's 268 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: opportunity for domestic American citizens apparently, is what we're talking 269 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: about with that. But the question about considered with protest 270 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: in calling protesters in general domestic terrorist when it was 271 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: you wrote the first book and published the first book, 272 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: a textbook on terrorism. In about a minute and a half, 273 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: can you explain what domestic terrorism does that fall into 274 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: the idea of protesting not engaging with a you know, 275 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: a Department of Homeland Security and on those with ice 276 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: but from a distance watching, observing, and making sure that 277 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: sunlight is on their behavior. 278 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 7: Absolutely not. 279 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 4: I think you have amendments. If I recall correctly, that 280 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 4: speaks directly to that right to assemble and to speak, 281 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 4: and the implication is, of course non violently. No, the 282 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 4: domestic terrorism, that was a smear. Let's just call it 283 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 4: what it was. It was a smear. They had the 284 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 4: worst possible motives when you call someone a terrorist. It 285 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 4: was very unfortunate. I believe I was in a conversation 286 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 4: with you about the Renee Good killing and I was 287 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 4: upset and angry about it. Then it is meant to be. 288 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 4: It's like calling, you know, someone a pedophiles. There is 289 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 4: nothing lower. Now, we don't actually have a law called 290 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 4: domestic terrorism. You have to resort to the sorts of 291 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 4: behaviors that you're talking about, damaging property, you know, threatening people, 292 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 4: et cetera. But you are absolutely right, there's a very 293 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 4: clear line. One amendment after another gives you the right, 294 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,959 Speaker 4: including in the case of what happened to Alex Preddy, 295 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 4: to be at that protest with concealed cary. He was 296 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 4: completely within his legal right. 297 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: Let's leave it there, because we're against the wall in time, 298 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: always good to talk to you. A vast resource of 299 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 1: information and experience from Cincinnati, but the former head of 300 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 1: political science at right stage, she is now Professor Meredith 301 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 1: doctor Donna Shlake. Thank you for making time for us 302 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: on a Saturday Stirling and Donna d show. 303 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 4: So interesting again. Thank you good nice. 304 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 3: Take care of yourself. 305 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 1: You're six there to report straight away, your chance to 306 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,719 Speaker 1: get interactive. A whole lot of ground to cover besides that, 307 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: including issues with the sex trade, the Epstein. 308 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 3: Files, movie speak. We'll have some fun. 309 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: It's not all serious. It's making my head hurt. We 310 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: can't have that, no straight away. Sterling Donna d coming back. 311 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: Seven hundred WLW. It's just like when I was growing 312 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: up after school and there are runs a Samford and 313 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: Son Sterling and Don and Pan hanging out. Seven hundred WLW. 314 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: Demon Wilson. He was Lamont Fret, Samford's son is in 315 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: Samford and Son. Word of his passing out today and 316 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: that was like his biggest, most notable role. 317 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 3: But he did some other stuff too. 318 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think everyone would know this actor 319 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 2: by Lamont from Samford and Son's seventy nine years old. 320 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 3: It's crazy. 321 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 2: Did you say he went to be a pastor. 322 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 3: I mean, or I should look it up. 323 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: I just remember at some point when I was a kid, 324 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: I saw him on some show. I was like, what's 325 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 1: he doing now, because I had no idea. Yeah, and 326 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: they were like, oh, he was out like spreading the 327 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: good word of God Johove out there, and I'm like, okay, cool, 328 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: good for him and doing that. And he had talked 329 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: about a lot of the like just to this pressures 330 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: and the crazy stuff about Hollywood, and he said he 331 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: just had to kind of like get away. 332 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 3: As I can recall, how great was that show? 333 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 2: You big dummy? 334 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, Brad always comeing home, you know, the other thing 335 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: that's disturbing about that. And as good as Demon Wilson 336 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 1: was as Lamont Fred of course, and the ensemble cast 337 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: was risdiculous, and all kinds of people that you see 338 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 1: later on that were on it. And it's still airing 339 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: and rerun someplace almost always aside from streaming. 340 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 2: You know, back in the day with those sitcoms, it 341 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 2: was all in the family. It was Norman Stuffy, Norman 342 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 2: lear stuff. I mean, the Jeffersons, even Sam fri and 343 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 2: Son was a little bit before that time, but those 344 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 2: were the days when sitcoms were really funny. The writing 345 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 2: was so so. 346 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 3: Good, tremendous and timely. 347 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: I mean, it was funny, but it also hit on 348 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 1: some social issues or whatever. 349 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 2: Writ Oh there are times where, you know, with Edith, 350 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 2: when she talked about, you know, being a stay at 351 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 2: home mom and trying to make honey. Oh my god, 352 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 2: that was a google that episode. YouTube that episode it is. 353 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 2: I mean I was bawling on that one. 354 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 1: You know what's crazy also, And this is what I 355 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: didn't know, because I just assumed Fred Sandford, you know, 356 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: which was of course Red Fox. And I remember going 357 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: to my uncle else when I was a kid, and 358 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: he'd be downstairs and we'd mess around with the CB, 359 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: you know, which we weren't supposed to do, talking to truckers, 360 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: and then going through his records and he had all 361 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: these old comedy records and some of which were Red 362 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: Fox records and stuff that I was not supposed to 363 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: be here. I had no white I mean, because he 364 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: worked Blue. Oh yeah, it was the best party records 365 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: or whatever else that they had. But I thought that 366 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: Red Fox was like like old, old old, and he 367 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: really wasn't that old, playing a fairly old guy. How 368 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: old was I mean, he was in his early fifties 369 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 1: when that was going on, early to mid fifties, and 370 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: I away assumed, for some reason, because he was calling 371 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 1: Holme to Elizabeth, that he had to be like one 372 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty six years old something. I mean, I 373 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,959 Speaker 1: was a little kid watching reruns. I had no idea. 374 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 2: No, I was horrified when I found out the Golden 375 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 2: Girls were in their early fifties, all retired in Florida 376 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 2: with the hair, and that they were all in their fifties. 377 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,719 Speaker 1: You know what those the generations before us. I mean, 378 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: they were road worn and haggard. Life was hard. 379 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know what it was. You watch 380 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 3: all those shows. 381 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if they were like hitting the butts 382 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: too much, drinking, party and doing I have no idea, 383 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: but it is not the way people in their fifties 384 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: today is like the third No I. 385 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 2: Did the I remember remember when Norman Lear came back 386 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 2: and they did that revisit of the of All in 387 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 2: the Family and Marisitomee played Edith, and it was so 388 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 2: funny because everyone said she's too young to play she 389 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 2: was older than Edith. 390 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 7: In the Cari. 391 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 2: She played the character, so that was crazy. It's talent, 392 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 2: you can play that well. A lot of it was 393 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 2: the hairstyle. You know who else us away. I was 394 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 2: so sad to hear this yesterday texted you. We both 395 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 2: always go when we when someone dies at a young age, 396 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 2: we go. Time flies true, it is so funny. Catherine O'Hara, Oh, 397 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 2: my gosh, actress from Well. She's best known for Home Alone. 398 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, a bunch of stuff and sheet's great. Okay, here, 399 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 3: listen to this. 400 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 7: What's the matter, honey, Darren? 401 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 2: Feeling that we didn't do something? 402 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 3: Now, you feel that way because we left in such 403 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 3: a hurry. We took care of everything, believe it, we did. 404 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 2: Did I turn off the coffee? 405 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 5: No? 406 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 7: I did? 407 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 5: Did you lock up? So? 408 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 3: Did you imagine that feeling though? What's missing? 409 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: You got to had a whole letter of children. Do 410 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: you ever do that when you're in a hurry get 411 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 1: on the airplane? 412 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 3: You're like, no, I locked the door? 413 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 2: Yeah? Did I leave my curling iron on? 414 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 3: I've never had that problem, It's definitely not. Now. 415 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 2: This clip is the longest. 416 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 3: It is a long clip. But I remember that feeling 417 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 3: of panic and not knowing Kevin. 418 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 2: Yes, finally, Yes, we got there, Kevin The Big Home Alone. 419 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 2: She was also in one of my favorite series ever, 420 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 2: Shit's Creek. 421 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 3: Yeah Trying. 422 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 2: Oh, she just got such high accolades from from uh 423 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 2: that role as Reira Moira. I mean it was so 424 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 2: great and of course Beetlejuice and and on and on. 425 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 2: I mean, what a great actress. She was so good 426 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 2: and never knowing. 427 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 3: I think she's on a Seth Rogan show too. 428 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: That it's one of those twenty five thousand things that 429 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: are on my wait list or watch list or with 430 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: Bouse to see which I think it may be an 431 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: Apple thing. Up a second, she's supposed to be great 432 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: and that she's still working, so imagine being that. 433 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 3: I mean, you have people that are depending on you. 434 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 3: I mean, we all have to go sometime. 435 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: But I mean it's not like she was aged and 436 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 1: gone away and been you know, a past memory. She's 437 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 1: out there getting it done. 438 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. That's how I want to go out too, though, 439 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 2: to be honest, I mean, I want to work up 440 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 2: until the day that I don't. There's there's no cause 441 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 2: of death, so there's no we still don't know exactly, 442 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 2: do you look. 443 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 3: She had a weird. I forget what it's called. 444 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: And I she had taken ill yes recently, yes, but 445 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: I trying to think of what the disorder is. And 446 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: I know you're looking at me strangely as I'm grabbing 447 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: my chest. But apparently all of her internal organs were 448 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: like if you looked in a mirror, they were reversed, okay, 449 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: which on one hand, I'd think, well, what's the problem. 450 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: It's still the same stuff in there, if it's working. 451 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 1: But apparently there are problems when your things are not 452 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: all the way we are supposed. 453 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 2: This was a condition obviously she's had her entire life. 454 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: Then that apparently they found out later or something. I 455 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: don't know all the details, but I saw that, and 456 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: then my mind was wondering. Late last night after I 457 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: got home from the show, I'm like, what the hell 458 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 1: is that about me? Oh, you're stuff on the wrong side. 459 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: I mean, that's scary. 460 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 2: I've never even heard of that before. She was only 461 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 2: seventy one. That seems so young, My goodness, gracious. 462 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 1: Absolutely live every moment, Like you know, Warren Zevon, the 463 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: legend that he was an incredible songwriter and performer, had 464 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: it all. I remember him talking to Letterman years ago 465 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 1: now talking about you know, he knew that he was 466 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: leaving us. He was sick and had been suffering with 467 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,479 Speaker 1: some stuff for a while, and it was, you know, 468 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: words of wisdom. He said, enjoy every sandwich. 469 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 2: Oh boy, and just an interesting choice. 470 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 3: I mean it really is. I love my sandwiches too. 471 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 3: I'm like, hell, yeah, I'll do that. 472 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: Let's get to Milford and Jim, let's talk about Katherine 473 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: O'Hare too, with Stirling and Donade on the big one. 474 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: What's going on Jim? 475 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 8: First, I remember you saying you when you sit down 476 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 8: and make a sandwich, don't you make it like literally 477 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 8: like six six inches high or something. I remember you 478 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 8: talking about that. 479 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: I sometimes, after like Thanksgiving, depending on the leftovers, I 480 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: will go forward. 481 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 2: How many pieces of bread is that? 482 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you feel like a triple a good nice 483 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: rye toast did with a little bit of sauce, you know, 484 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: everything a little on their pare go. 485 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm not. 486 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: Going to go through the whole thing. But that's like 487 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: just after Thanksgiving, regular sandwich. I don't know whatever Phil 488 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: feels good, you know, I don't. I don't know that, 489 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not like a crafts sandwich man. 490 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 2: I literally just said he want sandwiches. 491 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 8: I do, though his sandwiches are so tall he has 492 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 8: to lamb on the side and cut them with the knife. 493 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 3: Yes, correct, that'll be all right, It'll be all right. 494 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's true. 495 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 8: That's not why I called no, no, I call her back, 496 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 8: Catherine Man. I just I'm sixty so see the big 497 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 8: see your face and name and guys of seventy one. 498 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 8: I mean, maybe I'm a little narcissistic, but I look 499 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 8: back on myself, I'm like, whoa. I remember watching her 500 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 8: as a teenager and she must have not been that old. 501 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 8: And so what it was a Saturday Night Live and 502 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 8: after that was a. 503 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: TV second cit the TV was her and John Candy 504 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 1: and John Flaherty, I mean Eugene level the I mean, yeah, 505 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: so many people went through there, and like you, when 506 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 1: I was a little kid, I was just I was like, 507 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 1: I don't know what they're doing, but I couldn't turn 508 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: it off. 509 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 9: I know. 510 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 8: So so, Katherine, thank you for making me overtired to 511 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 8: church the next day because I would stay up till 512 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 8: like two thirty fourth, fell asleep. But yeah, with Catherine, uh, 513 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 8: that disease, like marrying and stuff. Yeah, but now I remember, 514 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 8: see I'm getting sixty, I'm forgetting why I called in. 515 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 8: The reason I called in was home alone. Wasn't it 516 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 8: kind of comforting yet brilliant that she brought John Candy 517 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 8: and is like, yeah, German. 518 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 2: Uh poker, the poker guy. 519 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 8: Because they worked so well together. I couldn't imagine what 520 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 8: what the outtakes were in the back of that you 521 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 8: haul truck was John Candy's hum her Yeah. 522 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: Just unbelievable, Jim, And thank you. I appreciate it and 523 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 1: being a part of the show and listening and yeah, 524 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: great memories. It's tough, you know, in what I used 525 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 1: to do, and I still get like a little bit 526 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 1: of a smattering of celebrity dead stuff when some un 527 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: notable passes away. And I did this for a long time, 528 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: and I started to feel bad when it was people 529 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: that I had come across professionally or somehow gotten you know, 530 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: interviews or whatever. Not like they remember they talked to 531 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: people all over the place. But I'm like, hey, I 532 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: know that guy. Hey, you know I had drinks with her? 533 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, whatever else. 534 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 2: We're starting to see a lot of the ones that 535 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 2: came up with us. Yeah, and Jim eloquently said, man, 536 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 2: I started thinking about myself. You know, you're sixty one, 537 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 2: she sixty or sixty one, and she died at seventy one. 538 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 2: You can't help but think of your own mortality. And 539 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, man, the clockt is tickets. 540 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: You just never know, you don't And I'm leary about this, 541 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: and driving in I was thinking about this. Do we 542 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: or don't we do the trif to celebrity death because 543 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: I kind of we don't want to be the prophet 544 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: of doom. We're not wanting to wish death upon anyone. 545 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: We don't want anyone to die, but we all do 546 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: have an expiration date. And for some reason, whatever it is, 547 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: because maybe they're notable, because we know who they are, 548 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: because they're famous or whatever, they seem to go in threes, right, 549 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: the trifecta of celebrity death. 550 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 3: So is it? Should we do this? 551 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 2: You ask me single time. I don't love this. 552 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 3: I feel dirty and wrong about it. Yeah. 553 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: We can hear you screening the call RUSS over the air, 554 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: or at least in our ears, So you don't know 555 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,959 Speaker 1: if I don't know if that's going over the air 556 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: or not you asking about sandwiches. Okay, yeah, okay, so 557 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: there you go. So he's doing that, he's hitting the 558 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: wrong button. I thought I was hallucinating. Which does that 559 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: mean that I should be on the list aseudo celebrity 560 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: that we are do. 561 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 3: This, We can do it, but we only have a 562 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 3: company do it. 563 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 5: All right? 564 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: So who do you think is next in the trifecta 565 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: celebrity death? Katherine O'Hare, demand Wilson who we just lost. 566 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: Of course it was Lamont, Sandford and Sandford and say 567 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: there's one more comedy. There's always going to be a third, 568 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: and you have to look at it again. By the possibility, 569 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: by lifestyle, by age, there's the wild card because anything 570 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: could happen. You could walk off a curb, get thumped 571 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: by a bus and you're like, well, wow, I didn't 572 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: expect to be on the grill THEO Cota bus or 573 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: you know whatever it is you know in that type 574 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: of situation, or it could be what age infirmity wild 575 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: card is or something else. 576 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 2: Well, when you put age lifestyle, yeah, lifestyle, you know, 577 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 2: like you're looking at Rod. 578 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 3: Stewart because he's about one hundred and eighty and he's. 579 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 2: Still as mc jagger, Yeah, Jaggers in his eighties. I mean, 580 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 2: you know I hate these more open The phone will go. 581 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: Rapid fire for phone minutes because again again we're not 582 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: wishing death. We don't want anyone to die. We wish 583 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,479 Speaker 1: we could all stay here together and hold hands a 584 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: love one another five one, three, seven, four nine, seven, 585 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: eight hundred, the Big One. You can talk back the 586 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app. Look, there's a lot of serious, heavy stuff 587 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: going on. Death is part of that. 588 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 2: Death. If you look at it, it can be funny. 589 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 2: I mean, we all have none of us are getting 590 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 2: us out of here a lot, you know, unscathed. 591 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: Oh oh, so no, you want to send it on 592 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: the air, RUSS or just tell us because it'll sound 593 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: like we're encouraging it and you I mean the RUSS 594 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: just popped the microphone. If somebody called and they were 595 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: reluctant to be heard, to share their voice or whatever else, right. 596 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 3: And they were saying, who would be next, possibly. 597 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: Let's just say lou Holtz, Oh yeah, Holts, he's getting 598 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: up there. And see then you upset a whole lot 599 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: of like Notre Dame people. So again, we don't want 600 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: it to happen. We don't, but I mean it gets 601 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: us all eventually to Western Hills and Hank with Sterling 602 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: and Donnade on the Big One. Do you have a 603 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: third for the trifecta celebrity death after Catherine O'Hare and 604 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: Demon Wilson, who was Lamad Samper from Sanford Son. 605 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 10: No. I was just gonna mention how Red Fox passed away. 606 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 10: He and a bunch of cast members had some kind 607 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 10: of reunion and he did the routine where he's clutching 608 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 10: his heart. He collapsed my couch and everybody's sitting there 609 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 10: laughing for like two or three minutes, and then they realized, Hey, 610 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 10: this is for real. 611 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 3: I didn't know that. 612 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 2: I had no idea. 613 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 10: Yeah, wow, They're all sitting there laughing. He grasped his heart. 614 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 10: They're all sitting there laughing for like two or three minutes, 615 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 10: and then they realized, Hey, this is for real. 616 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 2: That is amazing that how to go? How do how 617 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 2: a comedian came like that? 618 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 3: I mean, on one hand, it is strong. 619 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 2: Everybody laughed at the end of his. 620 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: Life, but but on the other hand, he was serious, 621 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: like helping me my God, just like crying Wolf. 622 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 3: He was like. 623 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: Went it was awesome, and Elizabeth of course was you know, 624 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: fictional character. So I mean, that's kind of I want 625 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: to get one more year before the break gets the 626 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: reading and Larry was sterling and donnade on the big one. 627 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 3: What do you have on sandwiches? 628 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 11: Uh, well, I'll give you another person off front though, 629 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 11: don Lemon, how how about that for the track that. 630 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 3: You figured that? What like of the third? Are you 631 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 3: wishing that to happen? 632 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 11: He's not a lot of stress now you never know that, 633 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 11: but yeah I did. I heard he's talking about sandwiches. 634 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 11: And I didn't know if you ever heard of the 635 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 11: song cold cut Cowboy. 636 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 3: Cold cut Cowboy? Who did that? 637 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 11: I don't know who did it? 638 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,719 Speaker 5: Is probably coal or drinking. 639 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 11: It's like you're nothing about a coal or drinking cow 640 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 11: cut cowboys something like it does something like that. But 641 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 11: I didn't know if you know, I didn't wanted to 642 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 11: answer if you like sous or souths hed cheese South's 643 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 11: I don't know. 644 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 3: I like my uh Colby, you know what I mean. 645 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: I don't know about the sticky sticky cheeses or whatever 646 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: else to go with that, like that little pepper Jack, 647 00:33:58,880 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? 648 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 3: A little one other things going on a limb. I 649 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 3: don't like to get stinky cheese. 650 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 12: I remember when I was at school, I had a 651 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 12: teacher who like, at lunch, you'd come in and you 652 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 12: did it in the room, just like fourth or fifth grade, 653 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 12: and he would have like those type of stinky cheeses 654 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 12: and Brunschweiger and all this sud. 655 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: You'd walk in the rooms and you know, and I 656 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: enjoyed my little like pizza from the lunch room as 657 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: a little kid, and you'd pop in. 658 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 5: There, what is this? 659 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 3: It smells like feet, you know, And everybody be like. 660 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 2: No, that was his lunch. 661 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,919 Speaker 3: You're like, oh, thanks, buddy, that's fantastic. 662 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 1: Your seven o'clock report straight away, Professor a Law from 663 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: Chase to a Law in Nku, Charlie and Graham gonna 664 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: join us. We'll talk on issues of sex trafficking, maybe 665 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: some immigration issues which are gonna be coming to Ohio 666 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: sooner than later in a major way, and the latest 667 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: on everything else that matters around planet Earth and to 668 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 1: us here in the Tri State. Straight away, believe Berdy 669 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: Hopkins has it. Your seven o'clock report coming up, Sterling, 670 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: Donna d Calming. After that, on the Home of the 671 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: Reds and unfortunately losing about bsketball Beer Cat's Day in 672 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: Houston today, but Xavier one, so you got that going 673 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: on seven hundred WW Cincinnati. 674 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:06,879 Speaker 3: Now in the. 675 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:13,720 Speaker 1: News, on and on it goes issues of Immigration enforcement, ICE, 676 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 1: Homeland Security coming to Ohio sooner than later, Governor Dwaine, 677 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: you may have heard the news talking about the fact 678 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: that they'll be looking to be a buffer and to 679 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 1: make things go smoothly with an excess of ten fifteen 680 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: thousand Haitians who had temporary protected status here in this 681 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 1: part of the world, up in Springfield and in the region, 682 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: filling a lot of jobs that were going unfilled as 683 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: businesses are growing, the economy is bounced back, and they're 684 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: yanking them out, pulled their status, and now perhaps ICE 685 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: will be coming yanking them out of the community as 686 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: well and upwards. I believe of something like five thousand 687 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: US citizen children here also that are going to be 688 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 1: in limbo. Someone who knows about law, who knows about 689 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: immigration issues, is kind enough to give them some time. 690 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 1: From a Chase College of Law NKU, that's Northern Kentucky University, 691 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: it is Charlene Graham with Sterling and Donna Die on 692 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,439 Speaker 1: the Big One. Welcome to seven hundred w l W. 693 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: How you doing, I'm doing great? How are you doing? 694 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 3: Okay, we're called We're all dealing with it absolutely. 695 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 1: If we can start with immigration issues, and you know, 696 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: we know about what's going on in and around the 697 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: Twin Cities, we know about Chicago, Land Area, New York, 698 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: a few other places. This has been ongoing. ICE is 699 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: constantly doing their work, as is Homeland Security. Uh, there 700 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: are issues of concern. I want to start with. One 701 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: thing that I found very provocative and disturbing to me 702 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: is the show me your papers. I'm not on the road, 703 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: I'm not driving, I'm observing. I'm in my own community 704 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:59,240 Speaker 1: and my own neighborhood, watching law enforcement of some type, 705 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 1: perhaps in out that soup of federal agencies, maybe not 706 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: even identifying themselves visually at all whatsoever, in the middle 707 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 1: of traffic or in a neighborhood, pulling people out of cars, 708 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: spraying them, asking for ID or not, and yanking them 709 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: away and locking them up. When did we become a 710 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 1: place where someone could approach me like a jack boot 711 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: thug and ask me for my ID, as if somehow 712 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 1: I don't belong. 713 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 5: Great questions. I think we have to start with what 714 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 5: is their authority and the extent to which there are good, 715 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:46,800 Speaker 5: robust arguments about them stepping beyond their authority and really 716 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 5: crossing the line into constitutional pair. So I think as 717 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,839 Speaker 5: a general proposition, you know, I thing, border patrol, they 718 00:37:54,840 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 5: do have authority to question individuals that they suspect of 719 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 5: being in the United States improperly illegally. That is what 720 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 5: they are supposed to do. Their role, however, is somewhat limited, right, 721 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 5: I mean, they need all law enforcement, even federal law enforcement, 722 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 5: have to have some degree of reasonable suspicion. And that 723 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 5: is a very low standard. It's lower than probable cause 724 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,359 Speaker 5: that most people are familiar with. They just have they 725 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 5: just have to have some sort of reasonable suspicion that 726 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 5: you are not a US citizen. Now, this is where 727 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 5: the question comes in, Right, what are the criterion that 728 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 5: they're using in order to determine whether you are a 729 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 5: US citizen or not? And I think this is what 730 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 5: the issue is, you know, to the extent to which 731 00:38:55,480 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 5: we have pending lawsuits that are questioning the ateria of 732 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,720 Speaker 5: you know, are we just pulling people over who fall 733 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 5: within a particular demographic. Are people who speak a particular language, 734 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,319 Speaker 5: you know, do they speak Spanish for example, or you know, 735 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 5: or are we targeting people who are I'll just say 736 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 5: varying shades of brown. We're not really sure whether they 737 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 5: you know who, what their ethnic affiliation is, you know, 738 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 5: what is the basis? You know, do we have a 739 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 5: reasonable basis and in some a reasonable suspicion. So I 740 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:43,839 Speaker 5: think on some level we are really at the threshold 741 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,959 Speaker 5: of asking some very hard questions and I will say, 742 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 5: some uncomfortable questions about who we are as a nation, 743 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 5: as a country, or are we you know, this whole 744 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 5: episode is exposed the gaps in our expectations and our 745 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 5: understandings and the way that these law these laws are written, 746 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 5: where you have individuals who are dancing in the gray 747 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,800 Speaker 5: area of ambiguity here, right, I mean, they're they're taking 748 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 5: advantage of the gaps and some of the norms that 749 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,399 Speaker 5: we assumed that everybody agreed to. We are finding out 750 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 5: that people do not. And so that's really where we are. 751 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 5: I think, you know, you know, do we not want 752 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,799 Speaker 5: ICE to enforce integration? Not entirely, you know, we you know, 753 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 5: every nation has the right to determine who it wants 754 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 5: to include in its citizens among its citizens. That's true. However, 755 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 5: it's you know, what other protections are we going to 756 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:53,919 Speaker 5: afford those individuals? 757 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 7: Right? 758 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,760 Speaker 5: And I think that that's you know, that's where where 759 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 5: the issue becomes. Right, I can you know, ICE can 760 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,800 Speaker 5: detain you, they can stop you, they can ask questions, 761 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 5: and if they have a reasonable belief that you're not 762 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 5: a US citizen, they can arrest you. They have the 763 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 5: ability to do so. Now the issue of can they 764 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:19,800 Speaker 5: enter your home or other private spaces, that's another problem. 765 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:24,280 Speaker 5: And you do need a warrant signed by a judge, 766 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 5: and that is not an administrative judge. It was an 767 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:34,359 Speaker 5: administrative judge of ICE, but it requires a state or 768 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 5: federal judge to actually sign that warrant to because we 769 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,879 Speaker 5: do have Fourth Amendment protection sports fifth sixth Amendment protections there. 770 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,800 Speaker 2: I was going I was going to ask you about 771 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 2: that too, Charlene. And I think the issue of lack 772 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 2: of training for these ICE agents has come up, and 773 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 2: rightfully so, they've taken the training for UH down quite 774 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 2: a bit to get them on the street. My question is, 775 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,399 Speaker 2: because Sterling started with his issue, I have issue with 776 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:08,720 Speaker 2: this because it seems unreasonable or out of the norm 777 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,800 Speaker 2: at the minimal amount to shoot and kill a US 778 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 2: citizen and not know the name of the ICE agent 779 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 2: that has done it. I mean, if you hear of 780 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 2: a shooting from a police officer, you know his name is, 781 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 2: badge number, and things like that. I've never witnessed anybody 782 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 2: you know, hiding or from dosing. I mean like that 783 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 2: kind of stuff. What are your thoughts on that? 784 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 5: Well, I personally is my personal opinion. I agree with you. 785 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 5: I think we give law enforcement, and I absolutely support 786 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 5: law enforcement, but we give them a tremendous amount of power. 787 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 5: And I was always taught to beoing much is given 788 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 5: much as required. I think that we as a country 789 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:59,280 Speaker 5: must decide that if we're going to give these individuals 790 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 5: a certain amount of authority, then there is a responsibility. 791 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,320 Speaker 5: No hiding of the mask, now hiding of the face, 792 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 5: no wearing of the mask. When you do stop me, 793 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 5: detain you, mut's produce your shield? You know, what is 794 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 5: your name? What is your badge number? If I need 795 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 5: to call a supervisor, I have the ability to do that. 796 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 8: There is a. 797 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 5: Discussion about what the proper policy and protocol ought to 798 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 5: be for this type of enforcement and these types of agents. 799 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 5: I think this is a worthy conversation, and we have 800 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:40,719 Speaker 5: to balance the interests of law enforcement against the principles 801 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 5: that we profess to believe, the First Amendment, to protest, 802 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:50,280 Speaker 5: to assemble, to freedom of press, all of these things 803 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 5: get balanced against you know, our reasonable concerns about safety 804 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 5: and other things, but you raise from their very important issues. 805 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 5: And here is where I said that there are certain 806 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 5: gaps in our system that we have made assumptions. Well, 807 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,360 Speaker 5: we can no longer make those assumptions, and to the 808 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:14,440 Speaker 5: extent to which we are, as they say in perhaps 809 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 5: in very perilous times, we are in a position where 810 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 5: we now have to face the gaps. 811 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:31,920 Speaker 6: The areas of the law that are not defined and 812 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,920 Speaker 6: are perhaps uncomfortable to discuss. 813 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 5: We're going to have to get comfortable with being a 814 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 5: little uncomfortable in order to resolve some of these very 815 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 5: serious problems and to protect the principles we say. 816 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 4: We believe in. 817 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 1: You know, it's an interesting thing in that. Oh, it's democrats, 818 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,800 Speaker 1: it's republican. This is about all us citizens, our rights 819 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 1: and our freedoms and our liberties, and about the infringement 820 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,839 Speaker 1: upon those Charlene Grant, Professor of Law NKU this' Northern 821 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 1: Kentucky University's Chase College of Law with Sterling and Donnade 822 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 1: on the big one. One of my other concerns, and 823 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 1: I've had other people on who have dealt with sex 824 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 1: trafficking issues and so forth. And the fact is that 825 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,839 Speaker 1: undocumented people, just like others who were cast off from 826 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,759 Speaker 1: families for one reason or another, runaways, et cetera, are 827 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,719 Speaker 1: people that can easily get lost, manipulated, taken advantage of 828 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,240 Speaker 1: hiding in the shadows. Sex trafficking a big issue. Epstein 829 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 1: files in the news about this, So I think having 830 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:37,080 Speaker 1: people documented and showing light on them their lives and 831 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 1: giving them protections is a very important thing. But with this, 832 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 1: where is the line? As far as well, let me 833 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 1: restate this, because I think this plays into it. How 834 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:55,279 Speaker 1: does one navigate this and keep people safe in a 835 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,400 Speaker 1: circumstance like this when you already have information with a 836 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:02,799 Speaker 1: high profile thing like Epstein files, people with victims' names 837 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 1: being exposed seemingly fairly liberally part of the use of 838 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,799 Speaker 1: the language, in some cases even more than those that 839 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 1: are thought to be perhaps privors. 840 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 5: Well, let me say this because I think these are 841 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,239 Speaker 5: two separate questions. I think the issue of privacy, the 842 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:26,120 Speaker 5: issue of protecting privacy, protecting information is something that in 843 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 5: any category you asked me about, if you asked me 844 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:33,880 Speaker 5: about seizing of voting records and the kind of private 845 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,440 Speaker 5: information that is contained in state voting records like your 846 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 5: driver's license, your solid security number, over those sorts of things. 847 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,759 Speaker 5: If you're talking about which I think was reported on 848 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 5: MPR recently, you know, the self security files that were 849 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 5: uploaded to some server when when there was a you know, 850 00:46:56,239 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 5: DOGE was operational, there are some concerns about where private 851 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:04,960 Speaker 5: information I think the issue of privacy and where our 852 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,320 Speaker 5: information is being stored, where that data is being held, 853 00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 5: those are serious conversations. Those are conversations that we have 854 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 5: only scratched the surface of. And you know, we have AI, 855 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 5: we have so much happening technologically that these are problems 856 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:23,960 Speaker 5: that we're going to have to resolve. And I and 857 00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 5: and that's not to say that officers are concerned about it, 858 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:32,120 Speaker 5: as every human American human being now is concerned about 859 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 5: doxing and hacking and all the rest of that. Okay, well, 860 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,439 Speaker 5: let's let's deal with that. Let's deal with security. Let's 861 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:43,319 Speaker 5: deal with educating people how to protect their data. Let's 862 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,800 Speaker 5: just deal with with with educating our population, not hiding 863 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,319 Speaker 5: away from some of those those challenges. Let's set up 864 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 5: those rules right now. We just don't have enough attention 865 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,719 Speaker 5: being paid to the protection of that sort of information. 866 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 5: So I understand that concern. But there are ways to 867 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 5: protect individuals. We know some of those. We have. 868 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:06,719 Speaker 9: You know, we have. 869 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 5: Officers, We have individuals who have protected status. Okay, somebody 870 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 5: knows who they are. But what you're addressing is the 871 00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:22,279 Speaker 5: issue of when someone who has been given this authority, 872 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,880 Speaker 5: who is a some form of a law enforcement officer, 873 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 5: is stepping beyond their role. That's really what the issue is. 874 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:32,360 Speaker 9: Now. 875 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,440 Speaker 5: I know people throw around this phrase. You know, people 876 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,760 Speaker 5: may understand what qualified immunity is, but most law enforcement 877 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 5: officers do enjoy a certain amount of qualified immunity so 878 00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,840 Speaker 5: long as they are operating within the scope of their jobs. 879 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 3: They have to obey the law. Right, Charlotte, the law Matt. 880 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,560 Speaker 1: Let me reintroduce you Charlette Grant's professor of Law NKU 881 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,560 Speaker 1: Chase College of Law with Sterling and DNA D on 882 00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:01,239 Speaker 1: the big one. So again following, and the law is important, 883 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,000 Speaker 1: and it would seem, and this is from across the 884 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,400 Speaker 1: political spectrum, that that has been lost somehow in some 885 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,880 Speaker 1: of this immigration stuff. In the midst of the enforcement 886 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 1: on the street and people may be crossing a line 887 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,719 Speaker 1: and protesting and so on. We also want our law 888 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,600 Speaker 1: enforcement to be able to work in concert with the 889 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:23,400 Speaker 1: federal authorities to avoid some of those engagements, because that 890 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,240 Speaker 1: has turned extremely ugly and made it very difficult for local, state, 891 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,080 Speaker 1: county authorities to do their policing as well as the 892 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,799 Speaker 1: federal authorities. And meanwhile, the rest of us are just 893 00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:34,759 Speaker 1: sort of going, we don't know what the hell is 894 00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,960 Speaker 1: going on. That's a very uncomfortable circumstance, let alone the 895 00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 1: fact that even US citizens have been deported. 896 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:41,839 Speaker 7: And you are. 897 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,719 Speaker 5: Absolutely correct, because the standard is if the officer is 898 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:52,360 Speaker 5: plainly incompetent or knowingly violating the law, that's what the 899 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,759 Speaker 5: issue is. That's the threshold, right, And I think that's 900 00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:59,319 Speaker 5: the issue that needs to be defined here, because you know, 901 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:03,760 Speaker 5: trying to force their way into homes, private end places 902 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,000 Speaker 5: without a judicial warrant. These think they're problematic, and I 903 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,880 Speaker 5: do think that that's where when all this is over, 904 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,799 Speaker 5: you know. Unfortunately, I think people will be held accountable 905 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:20,719 Speaker 5: for the extent to which they knowingly violated the law. Well, 906 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:22,879 Speaker 5: and the qualified immunity will not protect them. 907 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. So in terms of and we touched on this 908 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,919 Speaker 2: a tiny little bit on the Epstein file some we've 909 00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 2: seen some documents released, but what was ordered that we 910 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,640 Speaker 2: were supposed to have the full release of the Epstein file. 911 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,160 Speaker 2: Some of the stuff is so creepy that I've read 912 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:44,160 Speaker 2: it's awful to put your eyes on anyway, But if 913 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,080 Speaker 2: it's been ordered about a month ago to release all 914 00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 2: of the documents, how are we not seeing those yet? 915 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:58,440 Speaker 5: Well, because people are not obeying judicial orders or congressional mandates. 916 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:05,120 Speaker 5: Congress has issued a variety of subpoenas to request the 917 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:10,399 Speaker 5: release of this information. You had the Epstein Files Transparency Act, 918 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:15,040 Speaker 5: which which became law, which set a specific request in 919 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:19,160 Speaker 5: deadline for when these documents were to be produced in 920 00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:24,480 Speaker 5: their entirety, and they weren't. They have been severely redacted 921 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,799 Speaker 5: in ways that is not entirely clear. It's one thing 922 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:32,560 Speaker 5: to react to protect the identification of victims of this 923 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:37,480 Speaker 5: particular crime, but the act was very specific about you 924 00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:42,799 Speaker 5: could not do any redaction if you thought it was 925 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:49,719 Speaker 5: to address someone's reputation, if they were a government official 926 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 5: or someone who was otherwise names, you couldn't protect that right. 927 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,960 Speaker 5: And I think we you know, this is a broader 928 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:00,680 Speaker 5: point that I know you don't have I'm to discussed, 929 00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 5: but I mean the broader point here is, you know, 930 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:09,080 Speaker 5: are we going to be a nation of laws? Will 931 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:15,759 Speaker 5: that we require everyone, including the president to adhere to 932 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:20,040 Speaker 5: the rule of law and all under him, whether they 933 00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:25,839 Speaker 5: be appointed, elected, or whatever, they have to obey the law, 934 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:33,239 Speaker 5: judicial orders, the law as enacted through Congress, find by 935 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,880 Speaker 5: whatever president. You know, are we going to require this 936 00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,120 Speaker 5: or not law? 937 00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,160 Speaker 1: We need three branches of government to do each of 938 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,560 Speaker 1: their jobs respectfully. We are out of time. I hope 939 00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,960 Speaker 1: you will be willing to come back. I enjoyed this conversation. 940 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:49,279 Speaker 1: We could go on and on. There's so many things 941 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:53,520 Speaker 1: going at the same time in the world. Charlene Hars absolutely, 942 00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:57,600 Speaker 1: professor of law from nku's Chase College of Law. That's 943 00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,680 Speaker 1: how that works. Thank you for making time, have yourself. 944 00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:02,960 Speaker 1: You're so welcome rest of your weekend. It was a 945 00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,600 Speaker 1: pleasure to talk to you. Take care of you so 946 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,279 Speaker 1: You're so welcome, Please stay warm. Yeah, it's a little 947 00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,000 Speaker 1: late for that, that's for sure. Yeah, absolutely, that's a 948 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,640 Speaker 1: Charlene Grant Professor Law from NKU Chase the School of 949 00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:15,200 Speaker 1: Law with Sterling and Donna deal on the Big one 950 00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 1: straight away, you're seven third or reporting. A whole lot 951 00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,000 Speaker 1: more ground to cover on the Big one seven hundred 952 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:24,720 Speaker 1: WLW W man, a whole lot of action. Earlier today, 953 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:30,840 Speaker 1: hard times for basketball. Bear Cats in Houston town. Love Houston, boy, 954 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,680 Speaker 1: but the Bearcats did not loving Houston so much. They 955 00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,880 Speaker 1: got pounded seventy six fifty four by the Rockets in 956 00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:42,520 Speaker 1: a Big twelve matchup your Xavier Muscu. Yeah, yeah, Donna 957 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,560 Speaker 1: knows that for sure. Sterling and Donna hanging out, Russ 958 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,960 Speaker 1: Jackson producing keeping us in line. Brady Hopkins with news 959 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,719 Speaker 1: again in about twenty minutes or so. The x Men 960 00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,960 Speaker 1: sixty eight sixty six dramatic win over to Paul's Blue 961 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:57,080 Speaker 1: Demons at Sentas Earlier. NKU took one on the chin 962 00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:00,000 Speaker 1: last night at Detroit Mercy and a Horizon League matchup 963 00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:05,080 Speaker 1: ninety seventy seven my right State Raiders. They won, and 964 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:09,600 Speaker 1: I think it played up around Detroit area also or 965 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,560 Speaker 1: no where were they now I'm trying to think either way, 966 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:16,400 Speaker 1: they handled their business and continue to lead the Horizon 967 00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,200 Speaker 1: League at this particular point in time too. And that's 968 00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,080 Speaker 1: inside activities. I'll tell you what I've enjoyed the last 969 00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:26,239 Speaker 1: couple of days watching is warm weather from down Under 970 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,240 Speaker 1: because the other hemisphere it's like summer in the midst 971 00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,680 Speaker 1: of us and having what is our current temperature now 972 00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:36,320 Speaker 1: that is from thineen think twelve, it's fifteen, which feels 973 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:41,160 Speaker 1: like two. So I was watching people sweat in the 974 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,600 Speaker 1: stands and enjoy themselves with the Australian Open, which, of course, 975 00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,759 Speaker 1: now I hear that everybody was using the acronym AO, 976 00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:52,000 Speaker 1: which sounds like a movie or something. And you ten, 977 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,320 Speaker 1: you and Dave Keaton, I know, always talk about the tennis. 978 00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,080 Speaker 3: This is like monumental. We were talking off the air. 979 00:54:58,160 --> 00:54:58,359 Speaker 9: Yeah. 980 00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,879 Speaker 2: Well, first they had the women's final this morning on air. 981 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,440 Speaker 2: You know it's way behind, so like the men's final 982 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,200 Speaker 2: is going to air at three thirty. 983 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:12,959 Speaker 1: Thirty ahead behind the head there us already tomorrow. Yes 984 00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:17,480 Speaker 1: they're ahead. Sabalanca lost to Robi Kina. 985 00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,319 Speaker 2: I can't ever say her name, but anyway, very very 986 00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:26,839 Speaker 2: good match. The two men's semifinals were amazing, Carlos Alcarez 987 00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:30,920 Speaker 2: and Zverev and Alcarez came on top and he's in 988 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,640 Speaker 2: the finals. And then Djokovic versus Cinner. Everybody had Sinner 989 00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:38,320 Speaker 2: to win, and it's been Carlos Alcarez and and center 990 00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:42,920 Speaker 2: for the matches in the finals, and but Djokovic pulled 991 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,840 Speaker 2: ahead and he actually won that two big five setters. 992 00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:50,040 Speaker 2: But what what's interesting is there's going to be history 993 00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:56,440 Speaker 2: tomorrow made for the men's finals. Well, Djokovic, Novak Djokovic 994 00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,040 Speaker 2: is thirty eight years old. 995 00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,359 Speaker 1: I mean he's agent, right, I mean that's long and 996 00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,440 Speaker 1: he's like one hundred and eighty six years old in ten. 997 00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's he will be if he wins tomorrow, 998 00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,920 Speaker 2: the oldest man to win the Australian Open. This is 999 00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,839 Speaker 2: his eleventh final at the eleventh Open. Now, Carlos Alcarez, 1000 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,279 Speaker 2: the young end is only twenty two years old. 1001 00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:18,800 Speaker 3: Doesn't know. 1002 00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:23,160 Speaker 1: My mom had twenty two. She didn't know anything either. 1003 00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:24,760 Speaker 1: She told me she's like, I had no idea. 1004 00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,560 Speaker 2: Well, if he wins tomorrow, he's going to be the 1005 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:33,239 Speaker 2: youngest Australian Open winner. So it's age and wisdom versus 1006 00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:37,120 Speaker 2: youth and vitality and athleticism. But I mean, I gotta 1007 00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,400 Speaker 2: be honest, Djokovic looks amazing. I was talking to the 1008 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:44,280 Speaker 2: women at the at the tennis club this morning about Joseavic. 1009 00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:52,120 Speaker 2: We've got something jumpets into absolutely and but we were 1010 00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,479 Speaker 2: talking about how Djokovic still looks the same ten years ago. 1011 00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,840 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, he takes very good care of himself. 1012 00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,640 Speaker 2: He's he's plant based and he talked about it all 1013 00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,200 Speaker 2: the time. But how does he win? Yes, he still 1014 00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,640 Speaker 2: has skills, he still has agility, still does. 1015 00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:07,680 Speaker 1: The smells now in tennis years right, So he's a 1016 00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:11,239 Speaker 1: sneaky bastard. I mean he knows things and how to manipulate. 1017 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:15,080 Speaker 2: Mental it is his mental game is what says sets 1018 00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,320 Speaker 2: him apart from all the other ones. He knows he's 1019 00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,360 Speaker 2: got to keep steady and that's what's going to win. 1020 00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,880 Speaker 2: So how fun would it be to talk about you 1021 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:28,400 Speaker 2: know what? You know? What are you better at now 1022 00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:32,400 Speaker 2: with all the wisdom that comes with age then you 1023 00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,080 Speaker 2: were back when you were twenty two. 1024 00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,800 Speaker 1: So, in other words, after the world has beaten us down, 1025 00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,520 Speaker 1: after we have been in it and slogging through the 1026 00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:42,000 Speaker 1: mess that is life. 1027 00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:47,600 Speaker 2: Through heartbreak, money issues, COVID Like, we've been hit by 1028 00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:49,200 Speaker 2: all kinds of stuff. 1029 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,760 Speaker 3: All kinds of crazy stuff. Yeah yeah yeah, So wisdom 1030 00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:52,840 Speaker 3: and age. 1031 00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, wisdom and age. What would you you know? What 1032 00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:59,160 Speaker 2: do you think you're better at now? Sirling with this 1033 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:02,480 Speaker 2: wisdom and age versus your twenty two year old self? 1034 00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,960 Speaker 2: What would you try and talk to your twenty two 1035 00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:05,800 Speaker 2: year old self? 1036 00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:10,160 Speaker 1: I tell him not to care anymore. I I mean, 1037 00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,840 Speaker 1: because there's something to being able to kill. 1038 00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:14,160 Speaker 2: It is that bad. 1039 00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:16,160 Speaker 3: I mean, I care, but you can care too much. 1040 00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:17,320 Speaker 3: It will kill you if you. 1041 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:21,080 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, there is so much going on that 1042 00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,680 Speaker 1: I think you have to at some point know how 1043 00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,000 Speaker 1: to disconnect and compartmentalize. 1044 00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:27,280 Speaker 3: I'll explain it this way. 1045 00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:27,760 Speaker 2: Okay. 1046 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,920 Speaker 1: Some women I have known in the past have accused 1047 00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:40,120 Speaker 1: me being able to U maybe too effectively compartmentalize your feelings, sure, 1048 00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,480 Speaker 1: and coping with things and dealing with things. It's sometimes 1049 00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,680 Speaker 1: like this has nothing to do with that, right, So 1050 00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,600 Speaker 1: I can work and have the relationship and all this stuff. 1051 00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:51,440 Speaker 1: But I mean, each of them have their place in 1052 00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,680 Speaker 1: my brain, in my mind, in my life as I 1053 00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:56,480 Speaker 1: carry on, But as a younger man, I probably was 1054 00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:58,520 Speaker 1: not able to keep and check my emotions and. 1055 00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,960 Speaker 3: Care too much. So now I've learned to not give 1056 00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:04,560 Speaker 3: a damn. I don't care any more. 1057 00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:05,960 Speaker 2: A weird way to push that, A. 1058 00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,560 Speaker 1: Bad way, I mean, But caring less, isn't I mean? 1059 00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:13,400 Speaker 1: Because it was killing me on the inside. No, of course, 1060 00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:14,520 Speaker 1: And this is the best. 1061 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:15,000 Speaker 8: I mean. 1062 00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,920 Speaker 2: First of all, I love your roundabout answer because it 1063 00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,760 Speaker 2: would be mine too. Emotional intelligence really like the way 1064 00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:22,960 Speaker 2: well I. 1065 00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:24,680 Speaker 3: Am emotionally now? More intelligence? 1066 00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:29,160 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, because you stop let you stop. You've stopped 1067 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:33,919 Speaker 2: let letting your emotions run away with you. So you've 1068 00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:37,960 Speaker 2: been able to manage how you feel about things and 1069 00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:41,160 Speaker 2: be able to That's like the greatest thing to learn. 1070 00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:44,480 Speaker 2: And it would be my skill too, would be communicating 1071 00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:48,360 Speaker 2: and having a lot more emotional intelligence, investing in myself 1072 00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,080 Speaker 2: in terms of my own happiness and what I want. 1073 00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:52,760 Speaker 2: I didn't do that at twenty two. 1074 00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,080 Speaker 1: Well, you don't know enough. You don't even know what 1075 00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:58,040 Speaker 1: you don't know. You don't know, right, Yes, So I 1076 00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,400 Speaker 1: mean part of that is knowing what take care about, 1077 01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:04,320 Speaker 1: what to worry about. Because here's the thing. The trick 1078 01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,919 Speaker 1: for me, and I've had this conversation with a friend 1079 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,560 Speaker 1: of mine very recently, and she was very upset with me. 1080 01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:15,920 Speaker 1: I said, I can't control it. I'm not happy about 1081 01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,760 Speaker 1: this stuff going on, but it has nothing to do 1082 01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,840 Speaker 1: with me, and I can't affect the outcome, so I 1083 01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:25,240 Speaker 1: have to leave it behind. It's not my problem. I 1084 01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,920 Speaker 1: can't there. I have no state of play in there 1085 01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:31,640 Speaker 1: at all whatsoever. I'm aware of it. I'm concerned about it, 1086 01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:33,880 Speaker 1: but I've got to worry about me and you do 1087 01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:37,280 Speaker 1: a bit, and that's it. And she was saying that 1088 01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,800 Speaker 1: I was insensitive and uncaring and I had problems, and 1089 01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:40,720 Speaker 1: I do have problems. 1090 01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:44,160 Speaker 2: Let's all admit it right here. I know it brush 1091 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:45,720 Speaker 2: those that everybody knows. 1092 01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:46,160 Speaker 5: Really. 1093 01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:53,480 Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, guess who's guess who's dealing with stuff? Everybody? 1094 01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:54,080 Speaker 5: Everybody? 1095 01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:55,800 Speaker 7: Nobody? 1096 01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:58,120 Speaker 3: And am I right about that though? 1097 01:00:58,240 --> 01:00:59,960 Speaker 1: And she's a little bit younger, but I mean she's 1098 01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,360 Speaker 1: age appropriate, let's put it. I mean, you know, yes, 1099 01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,600 Speaker 1: it's not like she's twenty two. And I mean, well, 1100 01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:08,600 Speaker 1: women evolve this faster than Yeah, you are more emotionally intelligent, 1101 01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:08,920 Speaker 1: there is. 1102 01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:11,360 Speaker 2: No question, but there is there's a sense of a 1103 01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,520 Speaker 2: feeling of this is all happening for a reason to 1104 01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:19,000 Speaker 2: awaken a public of you know, sometimes it has to 1105 01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,360 Speaker 2: get worse before it gets better kind of a thing. 1106 01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:25,360 Speaker 2: So there's so so if you look at it that way, 1107 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,880 Speaker 2: it's supposed to be. Now, do we need to continue 1108 01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:32,040 Speaker 2: to suffer? I don't think so. I mean we've created 1109 01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:35,240 Speaker 2: so many I'm talking about human race. We've created a 1110 01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:37,440 Speaker 2: lot of pain and suffering, and we continue to do 1111 01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:40,560 Speaker 2: it in ourselves and in our relationships. That's why I 1112 01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:44,800 Speaker 2: talk from nine to midnight. I'm doing that tonight. 1113 01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:48,520 Speaker 1: If west Coming is exactlysfunction, I like to put the 1114 01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:50,600 Speaker 1: fun in this function, well I do too. 1115 01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:53,520 Speaker 2: I mean that's what we try and do. But we 1116 01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:57,240 Speaker 2: also try and help people understand that. Listen, you can't 1117 01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:00,280 Speaker 2: and I don't disagree with what you said to her, 1118 01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:04,960 Speaker 2: You can't. You can't fix everything. So how are you 1119 01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:08,000 Speaker 2: going to carry this on your back like bricks in 1120 01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:11,800 Speaker 2: a backpack? Correct and make yourself miserable? I think that's 1121 01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,320 Speaker 2: what people are doing right now, and we got to 1122 01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:15,680 Speaker 2: figure out a different way to handle that. 1123 01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:17,960 Speaker 1: So let's open up the phone, give people a chance 1124 01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:19,960 Speaker 1: to sound off. And there's no question that I was 1125 01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,760 Speaker 1: not as eloquent as you and I sometimes here's my problem, 1126 01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:26,720 Speaker 1: my filter. This job has been a blessing and a 1127 01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:28,400 Speaker 1: detriment over the years, and I've been doing this quite 1128 01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,600 Speaker 1: a while, whether you know, here, part time, fill ins 1129 01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:32,600 Speaker 1: whatever else and bounced here or there and back again. 1130 01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:36,440 Speaker 1: Radio people, Yeah, yeah, so you gotta know your spots 1131 01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:39,360 Speaker 1: or whatever. So five point three seven four ninety seven thousand, 1132 01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,680 Speaker 1: you got to pick your spots. Eight hundred the Big 1133 01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:44,320 Speaker 1: One talk back, the iHeartRadio app. You can leave a 1134 01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:45,800 Speaker 1: message there on the mic. I don't know what I said, 1135 01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:49,080 Speaker 1: but it clearly maybe not as I intend it. So 1136 01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:51,040 Speaker 1: I guess the question is what are you better at 1137 01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:55,640 Speaker 1: now with life and wisdom and time under your belt 1138 01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:59,040 Speaker 1: as a human being, So with wisdom and age that 1139 01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:01,000 Speaker 1: you can handle now better that you couldn't in your 1140 01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:01,800 Speaker 1: earlier years. 1141 01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:03,320 Speaker 3: Correct? Is that a good question? 1142 01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:03,400 Speaker 9: Is? 1143 01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:03,840 Speaker 10: Is that? 1144 01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:05,000 Speaker 3: It's just really wordy? 1145 01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:08,920 Speaker 2: So think about it. Djokovic versus Alcarez in the finals 1146 01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:13,640 Speaker 2: in Australian thirty eight to twenty two. Is there a 1147 01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,600 Speaker 2: chance he's gonna win? Yes, there's a big chance he's 1148 01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,680 Speaker 2: gonna win. Is Carlos Alkarez favored because he's got those 1149 01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:25,400 Speaker 2: young legs and he's got all heart and crazy. But 1150 01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:27,040 Speaker 2: but Djokovic has wisdom. 1151 01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:31,440 Speaker 1: And sometimes when you don't know, confidence encouraged. When you 1152 01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:34,040 Speaker 1: don't know what you don't know. Sometimes that can be 1153 01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,919 Speaker 1: a benefit too, because you're ignorant to the circumstance. 1154 01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:39,920 Speaker 2: It was nice when you didn't know back in the. 1155 01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:42,520 Speaker 3: Dude, there's a lot I didn't know. 1156 01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:43,880 Speaker 2: No, I don't know. 1157 01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:45,760 Speaker 1: What do you do better now that you didn't do 1158 01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,360 Speaker 1: in your teen's, twenties, thirties, whatever years you are. If 1159 01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:50,240 Speaker 1: you're a hundred, then in your eighties you're like, yeah, 1160 01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,360 Speaker 1: I've learned over the last two decades. I'm hitting the 1161 01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:54,760 Speaker 1: cesshary mark. I'm not going to care or whatever else. 1162 01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:57,400 Speaker 1: It is five three, seven, four, nine seven, eight hundred, 1163 01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,760 Speaker 1: the big one. Your chance to get interactive here on 1164 01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,200 Speaker 1: a Saturday, Sterling and Donna de There's a lot of 1165 01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:05,120 Speaker 1: stuff I think in life about that earned business, about 1166 01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,880 Speaker 1: that right. I mean, whether you're in sales, or whether 1167 01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,400 Speaker 1: you're you know, cleaning wind shields or putting them in 1168 01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:12,360 Speaker 1: up in dating at the Foulo or whatever that place 1169 01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:15,080 Speaker 1: is called that does all the windshields and everything, or 1170 01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:19,400 Speaker 1: whether you're working at ge or whatever it is, with experience, 1171 01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:23,040 Speaker 1: with knowledge, with understanding of whatever it is that you're 1172 01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:25,920 Speaker 1: involved with that you kind of go, Okay, this is 1173 01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:27,800 Speaker 1: the stuff to worry about. This is stuff not to 1174 01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:30,960 Speaker 1: worry about. This I have to handle and I think 1175 01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:32,400 Speaker 1: that is better for everybody. 1176 01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:36,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think certainly in sales there's a there's a 1177 01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:41,000 Speaker 2: level of growth that happens you and it's not about failing. 1178 01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:45,280 Speaker 2: It's about getting there, trying, trying something and learning the 1179 01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:47,120 Speaker 2: lessons and getting better at it. 1180 01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,160 Speaker 1: There you go to bond Hill. Let's talk to Raphael 1181 01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,000 Speaker 1: with Sterling and Donnade on the big one. What are 1182 01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:53,320 Speaker 1: you better at now Raphael that you were not in 1183 01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:55,080 Speaker 1: the past and why? 1184 01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,640 Speaker 9: I would say, Well, first of all, you know, I'm 1185 01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:03,840 Speaker 9: still operating from the playbook, the blueprint that my grandparents 1186 01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:06,520 Speaker 9: and parents laid out for me. I carried with that 1187 01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:12,280 Speaker 9: were with me every day. But I would say now 1188 01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:16,640 Speaker 9: I'm better as a human with listening. 1189 01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:21,920 Speaker 7: And I would. 1190 01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:28,600 Speaker 13: Say the managing and of finances, money and when it 1191 01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:31,880 Speaker 13: comes to investing, because you know, when I was younger, 1192 01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:33,400 Speaker 13: guys just had what. 1193 01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:36,760 Speaker 9: My you know, parents and grandparents instilled in me. And 1194 01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:40,480 Speaker 9: I'm not saying this is unique to you. Know, a 1195 01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:44,120 Speaker 9: black household how old. In a sense, it can run 1196 01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:48,080 Speaker 9: across racial demographics. But I know from where my parents 1197 01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:51,800 Speaker 9: and grandparents and great grandparents came from, they didn't have much. 1198 01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:56,040 Speaker 9: So what they had they had to save it just 1199 01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:58,680 Speaker 9: in case they showed they it wouldn't be taken away 1200 01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:02,760 Speaker 9: from them or they would lose it, they would run out. 1201 01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:08,480 Speaker 9: So there was no investing type you know, you know, 1202 01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:12,480 Speaker 9: information or education. When I was coming up with my parents, 1203 01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:16,440 Speaker 9: it was you know, passed down to them from their grandparents. 1204 01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:20,040 Speaker 9: Work hard and save your money. Now, and that's why 1205 01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:23,000 Speaker 9: I'm saying that now. You know, well, I would say 1206 01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:27,840 Speaker 9: maybe over the past maybe two decades, I started investing 1207 01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:32,800 Speaker 9: and I like it a lot and preparing for retirement. 1208 01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:36,880 Speaker 9: But before then, you know, like I said, you know, early, 1209 01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:39,560 Speaker 9: you know, younger, I was taking the page from my 1210 01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:42,480 Speaker 9: parents and grandparents, just working hard and saving money. 1211 01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:43,040 Speaker 3: Yep. 1212 01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:47,720 Speaker 9: And so those are two things I would say listening, 1213 01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:53,280 Speaker 9: and I would say, because like you were saying, Dondee, 1214 01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:55,840 Speaker 9: you know that you know, with age is wisdom. And 1215 01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:58,320 Speaker 9: Djokovic even though he has you know, wisdom and he 1216 01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:01,520 Speaker 9: has that experience, and don't forget he has a heart 1217 01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:04,960 Speaker 9: that because you know, Djokovic and Kobe Bryant were close, 1218 01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:09,240 Speaker 9: and Djokovic has that mama mentality. I'm not saying Carlos 1219 01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:13,000 Speaker 9: Alcaraz doesn't have it eat as well, but you know, 1220 01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:15,439 Speaker 9: Djokovic has an incredible heart. 1221 01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:18,920 Speaker 2: Did not agree, l And two of my favorites are 1222 01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:22,080 Speaker 2: Kobe Bryant and Novak Djokovic. What a great call. Yeah, 1223 01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:26,440 Speaker 2: they were listening. Is such a good, amazing tool. I 1224 01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:28,480 Speaker 2: can't believe you said. That's so good for you, Rafel. 1225 01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:29,800 Speaker 2: I'm always going to talk to me and thanks for 1226 01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:31,880 Speaker 2: listening to being a part of the show. That's fantastic. Yeah, 1227 01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,440 Speaker 2: Refi's always good. I'm trying to listen more. 1228 01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:35,840 Speaker 1: But you know what's funny when you take calls like 1229 01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:37,760 Speaker 1: this and you'll then they'll go, are you there, And 1230 01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:39,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm listening like they're shop. 1231 01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:40,920 Speaker 3: Yeah that I'm actually. 1232 01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:43,120 Speaker 2: Gonna we give a lot of space too. It's nice 1233 01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:44,680 Speaker 2: to sit and listen to our listeners. 1234 01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:48,080 Speaker 1: That's exactly right. Five point three seven hundred. 1235 01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:48,480 Speaker 3: The big one. 1236 01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:50,160 Speaker 1: Want to know what are you better at now with 1237 01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:52,600 Speaker 1: a little experience under your belt. In the past, you 1238 01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:54,960 Speaker 1: weren't so good at necessarily, what have you learned to 1239 01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,360 Speaker 1: Madeir and Tom with Sterling and Donnade on the big one. 1240 01:07:57,400 --> 01:07:57,760 Speaker 3: What do you have? 1241 01:07:57,840 --> 01:07:59,760 Speaker 4: Tom? 1242 01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:00,640 Speaker 3: Are you there? 1243 01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:01,520 Speaker 13: Tom? 1244 01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:05,000 Speaker 1: Once twice so you can sort of sounds like you, 1245 01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:12,600 Speaker 1: But I don't know. I always get concerned when that happens. 1246 01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:17,000 Speaker 1: Where did they go? Well, they went into the drive 1247 01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:20,840 Speaker 1: off the road, abyss. It's very unnerving to me. I hope, 1248 01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:22,840 Speaker 1: I hope he's all right. He was waiting a minute 1249 01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:25,439 Speaker 1: to call back. Yeah, please, I hope you're okay. It's 1250 01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:28,400 Speaker 1: a it's a difficult thing. It's tough. I think a 1251 01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:30,960 Speaker 1: lot of life is that way. And when you're younger, 1252 01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:32,880 Speaker 1: at least when I was, I was in such a hurry. 1253 01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:35,160 Speaker 1: I wanted to do grown up stuff, wanted to be 1254 01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:37,439 Speaker 1: a man, wanted to handle my business, didn't want to 1255 01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:39,280 Speaker 1: be a burden on mom. She did it on her 1256 01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:42,040 Speaker 1: own basically anyway. I mean she didn't. Dad helped it. 1257 01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:43,839 Speaker 1: I mean as far as putting me in there. 1258 01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:46,080 Speaker 3: And then that's about it. 1259 01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:48,680 Speaker 1: That's about it, right, And then uh so she was 1260 01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:50,080 Speaker 1: she was doing what she had to do to make 1261 01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:52,200 Speaker 1: sure it roofed on my over my head, food on 1262 01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:54,240 Speaker 1: a plate, and she was on my feet, and I 1263 01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:55,280 Speaker 1: was like I want to. 1264 01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:57,200 Speaker 3: I'm want to be mine to handle it. 1265 01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:59,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, and and you kind of forget and lose 1266 01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:02,719 Speaker 1: your way sometimes about I wish I would have goofed 1267 01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:05,040 Speaker 1: off more, you know, like my buddies would be like 1268 01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:08,200 Speaker 1: all work and no play. That's something that in hindsight, 1269 01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:11,240 Speaker 1: you never get that time back unless you're able to 1270 01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:13,640 Speaker 1: like cut away and like retire and have a lot 1271 01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:15,160 Speaker 1: of money to go goof off later on. 1272 01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:17,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and and and you know, it's nice to be 1273 01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:21,160 Speaker 2: able to enjoy the journey and goof off while you're 1274 01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:23,760 Speaker 2: doing some working and stuff. I was talking about that 1275 01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:25,800 Speaker 2: today because you know, I have a five you know, 1276 01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:29,160 Speaker 2: nine to five, or I am over forty hours a 1277 01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:31,280 Speaker 2: week on my other job, and then I come and 1278 01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:34,000 Speaker 2: you know, I teach you on the weekends like a 1279 01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:34,920 Speaker 2: six hours show. 1280 01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:35,760 Speaker 3: It's unbelievable. 1281 01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:38,080 Speaker 2: But I said to her when I was talking to 1282 01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:42,120 Speaker 2: her today, I said, this isn't even like work. It's fun. 1283 01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:45,599 Speaker 2: So we goof off and laugh and joke. And yes, 1284 01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:48,160 Speaker 2: you still have to be here some at a certain 1285 01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:51,519 Speaker 2: time and stay a certain you know, length of time, 1286 01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:54,000 Speaker 2: but it's still fun. So you can work and have 1287 01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:54,960 Speaker 2: fun at the same time. 1288 01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:56,160 Speaker 3: Think so we're doing it now. 1289 01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:57,160 Speaker 2: I just wanted to clear that. 1290 01:09:57,840 --> 01:09:59,840 Speaker 3: No, I mean, this is what does it seem like 1291 01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:01,240 Speaker 3: I'm not having fun? But I mean you know what 1292 01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:02,679 Speaker 3: I mean though as a kid, because like my friends 1293 01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:04,120 Speaker 3: would be like, oh work and no play. 1294 01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:06,800 Speaker 1: Make Stirling a dull boy because I'd be working or 1295 01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:10,120 Speaker 1: whatever else. We only have less than a minute, so 1296 01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:12,680 Speaker 1: Madeira Tom called back, Tom, can you get it in 1297 01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:13,559 Speaker 1: less than a minute? 1298 01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:14,000 Speaker 11: Yeah? 1299 01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:14,439 Speaker 3: What do you have? 1300 01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:15,240 Speaker 7: Yeah? 1301 01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:16,600 Speaker 14: I think so? Can you hear me? 1302 01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:18,679 Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, you're good, go ahead, Yeah, okay. 1303 01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:22,920 Speaker 14: I My question was actually when the professor was on before, 1304 01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:26,320 Speaker 14: if I live right next to you guys the street, 1305 01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:30,120 Speaker 14: I lived there for every thirty seven years. Okay, and okay. 1306 01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:33,960 Speaker 14: My question is I've got a wife whose wheelchair bound. 1307 01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:38,080 Speaker 14: She can I get around at all. And I've been 1308 01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:41,120 Speaker 14: watching a lot of this and I've seen storm agents 1309 01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:45,920 Speaker 14: just storm people's homes and break in. If somebody comes 1310 01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:48,400 Speaker 14: to our house or whatever, and we decide just not 1311 01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:51,840 Speaker 14: to answer the phone, I mean not to answer the door. 1312 01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:55,040 Speaker 14: Don't answer the door, then, I mean they can't really 1313 01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:56,519 Speaker 14: do anything to us, can they. 1314 01:10:56,680 --> 01:11:00,880 Speaker 2: That's a great question. I wish you and I'll send 1315 01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:03,080 Speaker 2: her a text. I will text her and see if 1316 01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:06,240 Speaker 2: we can mention that on the air afterwards, because that 1317 01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:07,639 Speaker 2: is a fantastic question. 1318 01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:09,840 Speaker 1: There you go, tom So, just keep listening to and 1319 01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:12,439 Speaker 1: we'll hit back at you on that. Absolutely appreciate you listening. 1320 01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:15,280 Speaker 1: Appreciate and your neighbors nearby. It's hardy to be brief, 1321 01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:17,280 Speaker 1: but there you go. Let's take care of some business. 1322 01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:19,920 Speaker 1: Eight o'clock reports straight away, another hour to go together 1323 01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:23,160 Speaker 1: on a Saturday, Sterling in Donnade, where the basketball Bearcats 1324 01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:26,040 Speaker 1: fell earlier Xavier one and of course this the home 1325 01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:28,000 Speaker 1: of the Red sooner than later, tuning up in the 1326 01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:31,839 Speaker 1: desert where it's probably significantly warmer than our fourteen degrees 1327 01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:35,760 Speaker 1: right now, News Radio seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati. 1328 01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:38,719 Speaker 3: He's Sterling, Donnade, hanging out. 1329 01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:42,559 Speaker 1: You know, we're about a month into this baby New 1330 01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:46,240 Speaker 1: Year twenty twenty six, starting to crawl a little bit. 1331 01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:48,960 Speaker 1: If it's a baby, right, it's probably a toddler. We're 1332 01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:50,479 Speaker 1: close to it at this point. I don't know how 1333 01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:51,880 Speaker 1: fast I mean to get a year that. I don't 1334 01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:54,559 Speaker 1: know how quickly it expands. Listen, the bald eagle has 1335 01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:56,720 Speaker 1: come back big in this part of the world, and 1336 01:11:57,360 --> 01:11:59,640 Speaker 1: they will have babies and within like three months there 1337 01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:02,920 Speaker 1: flying and going and trying to find food on their own, 1338 01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:06,880 Speaker 1: much quicker than most other creatures out there. 1339 01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:07,479 Speaker 3: Here's the thing. 1340 01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:10,000 Speaker 1: So we've had a lot going on and a lot 1341 01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:12,200 Speaker 1: of people like a lot of resolutions. I'm gonna live better, 1342 01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:14,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make more money, I'm gonna take care of 1343 01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:15,760 Speaker 1: you know, whatever it is that you have to go on. 1344 01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:19,599 Speaker 1: How is this New Year twenty twenty six treating you? 1345 01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:22,200 Speaker 1: Are you feeling good about things? Are you happy about 1346 01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:25,519 Speaker 1: the way stuff's going? Are you frustrated and angry? There's 1347 01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:28,439 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff going on all at the same time. 1348 01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:31,679 Speaker 1: Five one, three, seven, four nine, seven thousand, eight hundred 1349 01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:33,200 Speaker 1: the big one. You can pick up the phone, give 1350 01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:36,160 Speaker 1: it the finger. On the iHeartRadio app. You can click 1351 01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:38,760 Speaker 1: on the microphone and leave a message that way as well. 1352 01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:42,600 Speaker 1: Sterling dot donnad dot twenty twenty three on Instagram, on 1353 01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:44,760 Speaker 1: x or Twitter, call it whatever. It hasn't been Twitter 1354 01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:46,439 Speaker 1: for a long time, but I still get people who 1355 01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:47,880 Speaker 1: tell me, hey, I can do at you. How come 1356 01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:49,640 Speaker 1: you didn't get back? And I'll be like, well, you 1357 01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:52,360 Speaker 1: got the address wrong. It's at Sterling radio and then 1358 01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:54,800 Speaker 1: you can follow along and get interactive that way too. 1359 01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:57,639 Speaker 1: So Donna, here we are. This is the last day 1360 01:12:57,640 --> 01:12:59,960 Speaker 1: of January. You should have your W two's and your 1361 01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:03,840 Speaker 1: oh man should all be postmarked by today, if I'm 1362 01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:06,840 Speaker 1: not mistaken, if you haven't already gotten them digitally, so 1363 01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:08,640 Speaker 1: you can start dealing with the tax man. How am 1364 01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:11,439 Speaker 1: I doing? We'll see you after tax season. How are 1365 01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:12,240 Speaker 1: you doing, Donna? 1366 01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:16,720 Speaker 2: You know, this has been a very cold winter, and 1367 01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:20,440 Speaker 2: you know I love my love. I mean started in November. 1368 01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:23,320 Speaker 2: It's been cold and it has been icy. I can't 1369 01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:27,080 Speaker 2: remember Cincinnati being so cold, so that has affected me 1370 01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:30,599 Speaker 2: a little bit. The politics have been you know, the news, 1371 01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:34,800 Speaker 2: watching and paying attention to that has been really challenging 1372 01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:38,360 Speaker 2: on my nervous system. You know, seeing people being beaten 1373 01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:40,600 Speaker 2: up and that kind of stuff is hard for me 1374 01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:43,920 Speaker 2: to watch and pay attention to. So that's been challenging. 1375 01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:47,639 Speaker 2: But you know, professionally, I got a raise. I started 1376 01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,920 Speaker 2: doing some coaching on the side, so you know, I'm 1377 01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:55,919 Speaker 2: I I'm doing well in other areas and other areas 1378 01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:59,479 Speaker 2: you know. Plus there is a full snow moon that 1379 01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:02,400 Speaker 2: is right say tomorrow. 1380 01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:04,840 Speaker 3: I mean, it brings more snows me. 1381 01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:08,360 Speaker 2: It means it brings. It's bringing clarity and transformation, which 1382 01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:14,519 Speaker 2: I am all about in my mid fifties city. You 1383 01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:17,560 Speaker 2: don't think the moon Listen. I'm not a big astrology 1384 01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:20,479 Speaker 2: person or astronomy. I don't you know all those things. 1385 01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:25,160 Speaker 2: You're a science guy. I love science, Sue, science. Scientists 1386 01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:28,439 Speaker 2: show me the data. It's the secret truth. But you 1387 01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:31,920 Speaker 2: know that the moon, you know, affects the tides and 1388 01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:35,320 Speaker 2: all that other stuff. So there is energy with that 1389 01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:38,240 Speaker 2: big beautiful moon which is going to be tomorrow night. 1390 01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:40,960 Speaker 3: I don't I just never heard of it. I wasn't 1391 01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:42,320 Speaker 3: discounting it. I'll say this. 1392 01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:44,880 Speaker 1: I have friends that are like an emergency medicine, friends 1393 01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:47,439 Speaker 1: that are police and so forth, and anybody you know 1394 01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:51,400 Speaker 1: who deals with like an er stuff or law enforcement. Hell, 1395 01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:53,760 Speaker 1: you work at a bar or restaurant even for that matter, 1396 01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:56,960 Speaker 1: people will say, you know, well, a full moon things 1397 01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:59,680 Speaker 1: get a little weird sometimes, so there may be some 1398 01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:00,360 Speaker 1: truth to that. 1399 01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:10,400 Speaker 2: I suppose you know, uh, maybeys. 1400 01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:10,680 Speaker 1: And one less thing to worry about it, you know, 1401 01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:12,520 Speaker 1: or one more thing to worry. 1402 01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:13,760 Speaker 2: How are you doing it? 1403 01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:15,080 Speaker 3: I'm good. 1404 01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:17,000 Speaker 1: Look, I think a lot of people I don't want 1405 01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:19,840 Speaker 1: to speak for anyone else, right, but the fact that, uh, 1406 01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:24,040 Speaker 1: you know you you've got enforcement going on, however sloppily 1407 01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:26,519 Speaker 1: it may be being done and maybe trying to be 1408 01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:29,760 Speaker 1: improved upon. When it comes to making sure that people 1409 01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:33,200 Speaker 1: are here documented legitimately for their benefit and for the 1410 01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:37,400 Speaker 1: nation's benefit, that's a positive, right, Uh, not necessarily the 1411 01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:39,600 Speaker 1: way it's being executed now. Pardon the use of a 1412 01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:42,479 Speaker 1: pun or language there. That could be somewhat challenging to some, 1413 01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:44,400 Speaker 1: but I don't judge me. 1414 01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:45,400 Speaker 3: But but I. 1415 01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:47,720 Speaker 1: Think it's important to know who's in your yard and 1416 01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:50,200 Speaker 1: who's you know in your house, certain, right, So I 1417 01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:52,760 Speaker 1: think that's necessary. There's a better way maybe to go 1418 01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:54,960 Speaker 1: about it than what we've been seeing. But a lot 1419 01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:58,400 Speaker 1: of people happy about that, depending on the stock market 1420 01:15:58,439 --> 01:15:58,840 Speaker 1: on the day. 1421 01:15:58,880 --> 01:15:59,320 Speaker 3: It's great. 1422 01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,080 Speaker 1: Old is good to own right now if you have it, 1423 01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:05,280 Speaker 1: although the other day was a little tough. I'm still alive. 1424 01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:07,200 Speaker 1: I'm sick and tired of the cold. I could whine 1425 01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:10,040 Speaker 1: and cry about the most basic stuff. Yeah, but it's winter. 1426 01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:13,920 Speaker 1: It's almost you know, it'll be February tomorrow, and so 1427 01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:17,880 Speaker 1: it goes. I'm not dead yet. I feel fine. I 1428 01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:21,040 Speaker 1: think that's how I'm doing. I mean, you know, you 1429 01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:23,120 Speaker 1: get up and I go, I'm still here, So I 1430 01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:25,000 Speaker 1: got it to get the dog out and go about 1431 01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:27,960 Speaker 1: my business and until I don't wake up, That's what 1432 01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:28,400 Speaker 1: I'm doing. 1433 01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:30,960 Speaker 2: It does look like it's gonna stay cold for the 1434 01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:33,240 Speaker 2: next little bit, like a week. For see, I don't 1435 01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:33,679 Speaker 2: for see. 1436 01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:38,000 Speaker 1: Well wait, I'm feazing for like a week almost. I'm 1437 01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:40,559 Speaker 1: not bitter and angry, but I'm bitter and angry. I mean, 1438 01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:43,839 Speaker 1: I still have so much snow on my driveway it's crazy. 1439 01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:46,479 Speaker 1: Let me just yes, I did. 1440 01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:49,120 Speaker 2: And I use the scarf that you bought me, by 1441 01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:51,679 Speaker 2: the way for Christmas, which I love, and the hat 1442 01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:53,720 Speaker 2: and the scraper. 1443 01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:00,160 Speaker 1: For me because now I know I remember going out 1444 01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:01,519 Speaker 1: and seeing we were about ready to leave and look 1445 01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:01,640 Speaker 1: what that? 1446 01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:02,240 Speaker 3: Where's your car? 1447 01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:04,760 Speaker 1: And you're like that, like that's that's like an iceberg. 1448 01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:07,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, let's scrape your windows. 1449 01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:09,200 Speaker 3: Wrong with you? You've been back in Ohio for how 1450 01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:09,759 Speaker 3: many years? 1451 01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:13,960 Speaker 2: Now Here is the sweetest part though. A nice neighbor 1452 01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:16,600 Speaker 2: and I don't even know which one it was, shoveled 1453 01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:19,439 Speaker 2: the back of my driveway out because there was at 1454 01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:22,800 Speaker 2: least two feet of snow at least with the yeah, 1455 01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:26,920 Speaker 2: and somebody shoveled that for me. I mean that was 1456 01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,960 Speaker 2: a nice thing. That was such a lovely thing, And 1457 01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:33,000 Speaker 2: those are the moments that mean me and everything. Yeah, 1458 01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:34,080 Speaker 2: I love my neighbors. 1459 01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:35,960 Speaker 1: If you're gonna equate it to clean up of snow, 1460 01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:37,519 Speaker 1: this is how it went. I was here all last 1461 01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:39,840 Speaker 1: weekend when firm. By the way, let me let me 1462 01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:43,479 Speaker 1: just say this, because I said it in passing. You 1463 01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:47,360 Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen come October November. It'll be gonna 1464 01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:50,479 Speaker 1: be a whole lot of baby firm babies. There was 1465 01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:54,840 Speaker 1: a whole lot of people, so it was a lot 1466 01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:57,680 Speaker 1: of people off work in school for a day or two. 1467 01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:01,439 Speaker 1: It's been ridiculously cold, and sometimes you just want to 1468 01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:04,519 Speaker 1: get close sometimes just for the sake of survival and warmth. 1469 01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:07,200 Speaker 1: There'll be a whole lot of babies in and around 1470 01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:11,600 Speaker 1: the tri State probably popping up. And I'm guessing I 1471 01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:14,519 Speaker 1: would imagine some obg y ns are gonna start getting 1472 01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:17,479 Speaker 1: some calls and booking of appointments for some people that 1473 01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:19,840 Speaker 1: are going to be swollen with love children as a 1474 01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:23,439 Speaker 1: result of Fern's wrath. I could be wrong, but that's 1475 01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:24,040 Speaker 1: a good thing. 1476 01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:25,360 Speaker 3: Right, Well, we'll. 1477 01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:28,920 Speaker 2: Check the stats in October, October, November. 1478 01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:31,479 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I mean so I think the year's going 1479 01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:34,320 Speaker 1: great long term answer the more I think about it. 1480 01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:35,840 Speaker 3: In the assessment, it took me a minute to get 1481 01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:37,360 Speaker 3: a gauge. I just think. 1482 01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:40,599 Speaker 1: And as a result of that assessment, I say, things 1483 01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:44,120 Speaker 1: are pretty okay. I mean, don't worry about the world burning. 1484 01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:47,920 Speaker 1: It's fine. Five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, eight hundred, 1485 01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:51,559 Speaker 1: the big one. You know, you can get interactive that way. Really, 1486 01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:54,439 Speaker 1: how is this New Year treating you? Russ Jackson? He's 1487 01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:56,479 Speaker 1: back here now, so I mean, I would imagine the 1488 01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:58,880 Speaker 1: New Year's treating him pretty good. Although he's here with us, 1489 01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:00,519 Speaker 1: so I don't know the answered that on his own. 1490 01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:03,680 Speaker 1: He hasn't chimed in, so who knows. It's just one 1491 01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:05,880 Speaker 1: of those type of scenarios that's going on out there. 1492 01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:10,280 Speaker 1: It's it's tough. You know, what's great to do this 1493 01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:13,719 Speaker 1: time of year? And really it's it's mind boggling. 1494 01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:14,840 Speaker 2: What's the super Bowl? 1495 01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:17,600 Speaker 3: Well, it's coming, yes, and the Seahawks. You know what 1496 01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:18,040 Speaker 3: I'm saying. 1497 01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:20,559 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm gonna say ye say yeah, yeah, yeah, that'll 1498 01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:24,120 Speaker 1: be the thing is going to like Crome Conservatory and 1499 01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:25,960 Speaker 1: you go in there where like they do the butterflies 1500 01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:28,439 Speaker 1: and all that other stuff. There's nothing like going there 1501 01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:33,160 Speaker 1: when it's ridiculously bitter, evil like satanically cold, and I 1502 01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:35,240 Speaker 1: may be exaggerating a little bit, and you go there 1503 01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:37,639 Speaker 1: and you see like all this life, all this stuff, 1504 01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:39,960 Speaker 1: the plants growing. It's a little bit humid in there, 1505 01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:44,040 Speaker 1: and you know, and it's it's awesome. So yeah, I mean, 1506 01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:45,680 Speaker 1: that's that's one of those things I love doing this 1507 01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:47,160 Speaker 1: time of year. When I and I used to live 1508 01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:49,120 Speaker 1: just like right around the corner down the road, right, 1509 01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:51,200 Speaker 1: so I mean it was just an easy hop, skip 1510 01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:53,599 Speaker 1: and a jump get there. Newport aquariums another good thing 1511 01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:56,160 Speaker 1: you know this time of year, a scenario except there 1512 01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:58,719 Speaker 1: underwater mostly because you know it's the sea. 1513 01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:00,880 Speaker 3: It's an aquarium, you know, are you? 1514 01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:05,120 Speaker 2: Because the Grammys are tomorrow night too, biggest, biggest night 1515 01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:08,240 Speaker 2: in music. We were going to talk about that, but 1516 01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:12,120 Speaker 2: and I think Bad Bunny is up for several Grammys. 1517 01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:14,840 Speaker 1: To be careful, people lose their mind. I know bad 1518 01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:17,479 Speaker 1: Bunny people. It's a love hate thing for some reason 1519 01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:18,280 Speaker 1: with a Bad Bunny. 1520 01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:21,880 Speaker 2: Listen, I love that. I don't know one song of his, 1521 01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:23,840 Speaker 2: so I feel like, if you're going to perform at 1522 01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:26,040 Speaker 2: the super Bowl, I should know at least one song 1523 01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:26,599 Speaker 2: of yours. 1524 01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:27,120 Speaker 3: It helps. 1525 01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:28,639 Speaker 2: I mean, it really don't. 1526 01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:30,160 Speaker 3: I don't have a beat and you can dance to it. 1527 01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:30,639 Speaker 3: I promise. 1528 01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:34,080 Speaker 2: I'm sure it's gonna be I I saw the promos 1529 01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:36,880 Speaker 2: and it looks like it's gonna be a fun show. 1530 01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:39,800 Speaker 2: But it's uh. I mean, there are people that are 1531 01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:43,640 Speaker 2: boycotting the super Bowl because of the bad Bunny performance 1532 01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:44,519 Speaker 2: the halftime show. 1533 01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:44,880 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1534 01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:46,320 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm there for the game. 1535 01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:48,880 Speaker 1: It's not like I ever tune in and turn it 1536 01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:52,160 Speaker 1: all watch, but I'm saying I don't go to watch 1537 01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:56,400 Speaker 1: it exclusively for that. That's entertainment. In between the action 1538 01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:57,160 Speaker 1: and the entertainment. 1539 01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:59,960 Speaker 2: It's gonna be one of the biggest stories on Money 1540 01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:03,280 Speaker 2: day after the super Bowl of how what he performed 1541 01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:05,600 Speaker 2: and you know, all the stuff. There's going to be 1542 01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:08,120 Speaker 2: lovers and haters on that. It seems like they're so 1543 01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:13,280 Speaker 2: extreme on everything. There's not. It's not light hearted. It's 1544 01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:15,799 Speaker 2: extreme behavior on both sides. 1545 01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:18,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, and I'm. 1546 01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:20,240 Speaker 2: Telling you the bad punting performance is going to get 1547 01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:23,000 Speaker 2: more talk on the day after the Super Bowl than 1548 01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:24,479 Speaker 2: probably the game. 1549 01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:26,760 Speaker 3: No, yeah, I just want a good game. I do. 1550 01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:29,000 Speaker 3: I do you go back to the Grammys. 1551 01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:30,760 Speaker 1: This is kind of cool, and I mean it was 1552 01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:33,160 Speaker 1: a huge Black Sabbath and still am a huge Ozzy 1553 01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:36,599 Speaker 1: Osbourne fan. And of course he passed away not long ago, 1554 01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:39,400 Speaker 1: and they're going to have a tribute to him with 1555 01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:42,240 Speaker 1: the Grammys too, which will be kind of nice. It'll 1556 01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:44,799 Speaker 1: be Andrew Watt, Chad Smith of course from Chili Peppers, 1557 01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:46,479 Speaker 1: and he's been played with a bunch of people, Duff 1558 01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:49,240 Speaker 1: mccag and Guns and Roses, post Malone, Slash of course, 1559 01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:52,280 Speaker 1: who's well, it's Slash. Everybody knows, right, So that's going 1560 01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:54,120 Speaker 1: to be pretty awesome and all the other stuff that 1561 01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:57,679 Speaker 1: sort of goes with that too. Rose and Bruno Mars 1562 01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:02,400 Speaker 1: Suprena Carpenter also do some more honoring of some people 1563 01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:05,840 Speaker 1: that we lost, ROBERTA Flack, the' angelo of course, I. 1564 01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:08,120 Speaker 3: Mean, how many babies. 1565 01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:12,719 Speaker 1: I mean seriously, yeah, a lot of babies happening because 1566 01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:15,400 Speaker 1: D'Angelo music over the years. That's for sure too, So 1567 01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:18,479 Speaker 1: I mean, you know that that's kind of cool. And 1568 01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:24,160 Speaker 1: Reba McIntyre, Lucas Nelson, uh see Brandy Clark also all uh. 1569 01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:28,360 Speaker 2: I love Lucas Nelson. That's Willie Nelson's son. He's so great. 1570 01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:32,560 Speaker 2: He's got a great song with Lady Gaga. Bruno Mars's 1571 01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:35,320 Speaker 2: new album is great. I don't know if you heard that. 1572 01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:40,000 Speaker 2: It's so good. It's a seventies vibe. It's so fun. 1573 01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:42,720 Speaker 1: It feels like the seventies now too in a way. 1574 01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:46,120 Speaker 1: I mean, with so much of the social stuff happening, 1575 01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:49,040 Speaker 1: and you know, globally and everything kind of has that 1576 01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:51,080 Speaker 1: same kind of energy and vibe, so that kind of 1577 01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:51,599 Speaker 1: makes sense. 1578 01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:54,360 Speaker 2: He's well they always say the greatest artists have a 1579 01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:59,040 Speaker 2: way to get their finger on the pulse of and 1580 01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:02,120 Speaker 2: then describing kind of the generation of how it's feeling. 1581 01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:04,800 Speaker 1: I agree, I mean that makes sense. I mean there's 1582 01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:06,960 Speaker 1: there's something magical to be having somebody, whether it's the 1583 01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:09,200 Speaker 1: producer or the artists themselves, sort of figure out what 1584 01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:11,080 Speaker 1: that is because it's an intangible thing. 1585 01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:13,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean Ozzy was pretty good 1586 01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:16,920 Speaker 2: at it. He's been successful for so many years, decades, 1587 01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:23,160 Speaker 2: decades as before I had Yeah, right, you. 1588 01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:26,559 Speaker 1: Know what's amazing to me about Ozzy Osbourne and even 1589 01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:29,400 Speaker 1: Sabbath to a great extent, and I've been listening to 1590 01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:32,120 Speaker 1: a lot of that stuff lately again, and more so 1591 01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:36,719 Speaker 1: when I was a kid coming up, everybody acted because Ozzie, 1592 01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:39,040 Speaker 1: you know, had his issues with substance and being a 1593 01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:41,240 Speaker 1: wild child and all the other stuff. That this sort 1594 01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:42,800 Speaker 1: of went on and got a lot of attention and 1595 01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:45,320 Speaker 1: probably helped sell some records and bring people to the 1596 01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:48,479 Speaker 1: party too. But if you listen to the words of 1597 01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:50,759 Speaker 1: so much of his music, whether it was with Sabbath 1598 01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:53,200 Speaker 1: or on his own through the decades, it was all 1599 01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:59,160 Speaker 1: about you know, anti you know, authoritarianism and violence and 1600 01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:02,880 Speaker 1: against war and more about love and everything else and 1601 01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:05,360 Speaker 1: and and that really I think somehow people who were 1602 01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:08,200 Speaker 1: complaining about whatever was going on around him at the 1603 01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:09,639 Speaker 1: time and how. 1604 01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:11,559 Speaker 3: All the mad music's a popping a satan. 1605 01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:17,040 Speaker 2: He was biting the heads off birds and bats and 1606 01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:21,120 Speaker 2: things in the record because Sharon actually really pushed him 1607 01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:24,519 Speaker 2: to do that stuff. I think because he was like, oh, 1608 01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:27,400 Speaker 2: I'm I'm like a crazy person and you'll have a 1609 01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:29,280 Speaker 2: fun ride with me, and I'm going to bite the 1610 01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:30,120 Speaker 2: head off his bird. 1611 01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:33,240 Speaker 1: Well that, yeah, that was a meeting at Epic or Sony, 1612 01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:34,759 Speaker 1: as I understand it, right. 1613 01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:37,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was a tactic. It was a tactic. 1614 01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:41,120 Speaker 3: Did did he do this on purpose? 1615 01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:41,360 Speaker 7: Though? 1616 01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:45,439 Speaker 2: Yes? The bird, How in the world do you he 1617 01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:45,880 Speaker 2: might have. 1618 01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:47,519 Speaker 3: Been drunk or high. I don't know nothing about it. 1619 01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:50,679 Speaker 1: Probably and then he and then people started throwing stuff 1620 01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:53,599 Speaker 1: on stage to him too, which is not good. 1621 01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:56,600 Speaker 2: But you know, so he had his moments and you know, 1622 01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:57,759 Speaker 2: the of the music. 1623 01:24:58,160 --> 01:24:59,960 Speaker 3: But he wasn't some dark. 1624 01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:04,439 Speaker 1: Chicken earlier. Nobody's complaining to me it wasn't alive. 1625 01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:09,920 Speaker 2: That's true, right, it's you try and buy well, you 1626 01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:12,599 Speaker 2: try and bite the head off of a bird that's alive, 1627 01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:14,360 Speaker 2: and see how you feel about that. 1628 01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:17,360 Speaker 1: I have processed a chicken if you want to clarify, 1629 01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:21,240 Speaker 1: like the language, I don't. I mean, I mean chickens 1630 01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:23,840 Speaker 1: not but you know, but no, I've never like bitten 1631 01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:24,519 Speaker 1: the head off of what. 1632 01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:27,920 Speaker 2: It's a strange thing to do. Many people do that 1633 01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:30,360 Speaker 2: and wanted to catch attention. He was known as the 1634 01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:33,360 Speaker 2: Prince of Darkness. He had this dark side, but he 1635 01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:38,160 Speaker 2: also had this very cool, dad loving side to. 1636 01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:41,160 Speaker 1: Which everybody when they watched you know, the shows, a 1637 01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:44,680 Speaker 1: really great show. Yeah, changed everything. But the words and 1638 01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:46,680 Speaker 1: the music is what I'm talking about now. So you're 1639 01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:48,200 Speaker 1: saying that a lot of that message kind of got 1640 01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:50,679 Speaker 1: lost by the kind of the show business of it. 1641 01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:54,000 Speaker 2: And some of the he'd always have blood dripping from. 1642 01:25:57,160 --> 01:25:57,760 Speaker 3: Exactly. 1643 01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:00,280 Speaker 1: But when I was listening to the cassettes in my room, 1644 01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:03,160 Speaker 1: you know, and listening to the radio like to and 1645 01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:05,439 Speaker 1: t Ue, when I was a tiny sterling at the time, 1646 01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:07,240 Speaker 1: when I was supposed to be asleep, and it'd be like, Oh, 1647 01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:09,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna play a block of Ozzy, We're gonna play 1648 01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:11,479 Speaker 1: in some black Sabbath. It was about the words I 1649 01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:15,200 Speaker 1: wasn't worried necessarily about, like eating chickens and random other what. 1650 01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:17,679 Speaker 2: Like what what what words are you doing? What song 1651 01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:18,200 Speaker 2: are you talking? 1652 01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:21,080 Speaker 1: I mean, pig any song any of even his latest 1653 01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:23,120 Speaker 1: stuff that sort of goes along with that, I mean, 1654 01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:26,360 Speaker 1: suicide solution, I mean, I mean you name it. Song 1655 01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:30,960 Speaker 1: after song was really about positive things generally and sort 1656 01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:33,559 Speaker 1: of lost. Oh, let's get to Franklin and Jim. He's 1657 01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:40,040 Speaker 1: got something on Ozzie and biting heads of some sort sort. 1658 01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:42,080 Speaker 1: It could be you're sterling and done a d on 1659 01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:43,280 Speaker 1: the big one. What's going on? 1660 01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:45,080 Speaker 9: Oh? 1661 01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:45,760 Speaker 7: Hey, how you doing? 1662 01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:46,760 Speaker 3: Good man? What's up? 1663 01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:49,600 Speaker 15: Yeah, on that on the. 1664 01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:52,080 Speaker 16: On the by biting the head off. He didn't know 1665 01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:54,880 Speaker 16: that was a real bad He thought it was a prop, 1666 01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:56,960 Speaker 16: and then when he found out it was a real 1667 01:26:57,080 --> 01:26:59,360 Speaker 16: one after the show, he went and got a bunch 1668 01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:01,880 Speaker 16: of tennis and stuff just so a raby shot. 1669 01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:04,840 Speaker 15: That is fact. He didn't realize it was. 1670 01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:07,720 Speaker 3: No, I know what you're talking about. You're right, Jim. 1671 01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:09,479 Speaker 1: I mean somebody threw up like what he thought was 1672 01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:11,200 Speaker 1: like rubber batch because people were doing that. 1673 01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:14,280 Speaker 3: One happened to be real. And the you don't want 1674 01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:15,760 Speaker 3: to buy a bat for sure? 1675 01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:18,720 Speaker 2: Well he did do it with a dove in a 1676 01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:20,160 Speaker 2: in an epic meeting. 1677 01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:23,519 Speaker 1: To the doves are almost like pigeons, though, I mean 1678 01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:25,080 Speaker 1: at least then they got the head off. 1679 01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:27,000 Speaker 3: It was like not a lot of suf minutes. 1680 01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:30,320 Speaker 1: I mean it was quick in their What else do 1681 01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:31,880 Speaker 1: you have, Ben, I'm sorry, we don't need to talk 1682 01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:34,599 Speaker 1: about the I just. 1683 01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:35,200 Speaker 7: Want to do a thing. 1684 01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:37,760 Speaker 15: There's a group out there from the Cincinnati called that 1685 01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:40,200 Speaker 15: Arena Rock Show and they do that skit. 1686 01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:42,760 Speaker 3: With I did not know. 1687 01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:45,240 Speaker 15: If you get a chance, yeah, if you get a chance, 1688 01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:47,160 Speaker 15: that's not a real but get a chance to check 1689 01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:49,600 Speaker 15: out their videos. They played at Bogarts Report called that 1690 01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:50,800 Speaker 15: arena rock show. 1691 01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:52,280 Speaker 10: Yeah, they're really good. 1692 01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:54,280 Speaker 1: All right, well we'll give it a shot and we'll 1693 01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:56,280 Speaker 1: have to see. That's fantastic. Jim, thank you man. And 1694 01:27:56,600 --> 01:27:59,040 Speaker 1: a friend of mine I just playing doing some Grateful 1695 01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:00,960 Speaker 1: Dead music tonight up in Dayton. 1696 01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:02,960 Speaker 3: They're doing a show they're called Hitting Gym. 1697 01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:04,880 Speaker 1: I don't know where it is, but maybe that's something 1698 01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:07,240 Speaker 1: people in the area might want to do too. So 1699 01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:09,639 Speaker 1: this has been fun. We're gonna get to day Thirdy 1700 01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:13,400 Speaker 1: Report straight away. We'll get a conversation with Kevin Carr 1701 01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:16,200 Speaker 1: Silver Gecko I had with him about what's new with 1702 01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:18,559 Speaker 1: the movies, and then we'll be back. Donna's coming up 1703 01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:20,519 Speaker 1: doing nine to midnight and you want me to stay. Hey, 1704 01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:22,000 Speaker 1: I want you to say and do the you know, 1705 01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:22,800 Speaker 1: the toss off. 1706 01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:24,160 Speaker 2: Give me. It's gonna be. 1707 01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:26,120 Speaker 5: Like that. 1708 01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:29,720 Speaker 1: Let's just stop there ways to go. Yeah, and you 1709 01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:32,200 Speaker 1: got to figure out what you're saying. I think the 1710 01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:35,040 Speaker 1: news straight away more Sterling and Donna d and Kevin 1711 01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:41,360 Speaker 1: Carr seven hundred w l W seven hundred w l 1712 01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:46,720 Speaker 1: W Kevin Carr sober Gecko on the sub stack. He's 1713 01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:50,479 Speaker 1: Fat Guy's the movies, Well Sterling seven hundred WLW Kevin, 1714 01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:53,120 Speaker 1: how are you house everything? Have you absorbed the cold 1715 01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:56,200 Speaker 1: or have you become acclimated to the frozen tundra this 1716 01:28:56,320 --> 01:29:00,080 Speaker 1: part of the world, in this wonderful time of January. 1717 01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:02,360 Speaker 7: Oh no, I actually I wear shorts year round. 1718 01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:03,519 Speaker 3: I know you do. 1719 01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:07,599 Speaker 7: I was out today, I had shorts on, and uh, 1720 01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:10,240 Speaker 7: it's almost I'm like, hey, my. 1721 01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:13,200 Speaker 3: Legs aren't cold, right exactly? 1722 01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:18,639 Speaker 7: You know, the head and the chestual area, that's where 1723 01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:20,080 Speaker 7: you lose the most teeth, It's sure. 1724 01:29:20,120 --> 01:29:23,000 Speaker 1: The chester area is yeah, because you got your heart, 1725 01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:25,639 Speaker 1: your lungs, that's all fairly important. And then your head 1726 01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:27,920 Speaker 1: is where Mom told us all as kids that that's 1727 01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:30,080 Speaker 1: where you lose your heat, which none of us believed. 1728 01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:31,880 Speaker 3: But I do. Yeah, I love. 1729 01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:35,400 Speaker 7: Well, especially you, and I go for the the the 1730 01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:39,120 Speaker 7: the parampt of baldness. Yes, and and it'll yeah when 1731 01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:41,000 Speaker 7: the wind hits. But you know, here's the thing. I 1732 01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:43,880 Speaker 7: also just go from my car to the bank, my 1733 01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:47,559 Speaker 7: car to a restaurant, my car to home. I don't really, 1734 01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:50,240 Speaker 7: I'm not outside them, right. 1735 01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:53,960 Speaker 1: If you're out there moving snow or walking the dog 1736 01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:57,080 Speaker 1: rather than letting dogs out or just doing what you're saying. 1737 01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:58,760 Speaker 1: Then that's a whole nother story. I got you, But 1738 01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:01,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I I just hate the cold. 1739 01:30:01,439 --> 01:30:02,000 Speaker 3: I'm against it. 1740 01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:06,760 Speaker 7: I'm I'm I love the cold. But I was wrong. 1741 01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:09,599 Speaker 7: I will say this, and I when I'm wrong, I 1742 01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:13,080 Speaker 7: will fess up to it. When we talked last week, Yes, 1743 01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:15,080 Speaker 7: I said this, that it was going to be a 1744 01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:17,160 Speaker 7: big nothing burger. Yes I was wrong. 1745 01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:20,120 Speaker 1: Yes, that's good. I wasn't going to hammer you for it, 1746 01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:22,280 Speaker 1: but I was going to mention it. So that's good. Yeah, 1747 01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:25,040 Speaker 1: you were wrong by about fourteen inches around My place 1748 01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:31,160 Speaker 1: drifts more than that. But it's great. Everything's just fun. 1749 01:30:31,479 --> 01:30:33,559 Speaker 1: Yeah that that that doesn't sounded bad? Didn't Wow? 1750 01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:38,000 Speaker 3: Okay? Yeah all right. Uh let let's move on, shall we? 1751 01:30:38,280 --> 01:30:38,519 Speaker 9: Uh? 1752 01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:40,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's where do you want to start? 1753 01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:42,840 Speaker 1: Because I know you saw the State of the movie 1754 01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:44,519 Speaker 1: and you get you know what, you're limited. You got 1755 01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:46,280 Speaker 1: to pick one movie. I guess that was the one 1756 01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:48,160 Speaker 1: you picked. Let's start there, and then we lost the 1757 01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:51,719 Speaker 1: fantastic Catherine O'Hara. We didn't really lose it. She passed away, 1758 01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:55,040 Speaker 1: which is just devastating. Start wherever you want to start? 1759 01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:58,320 Speaker 7: Well, you know, let's just start Catherine O'Hara. I mean, 1760 01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:02,400 Speaker 7: he was was brilliant original Second City, and you know, 1761 01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:05,519 Speaker 7: she did all the great comedies with Christopher Guest, you know, 1762 01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:10,360 Speaker 7: stuff like Waiting for Guffman and the Show. I mean, 1763 01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:12,280 Speaker 7: she was and you know, she just did a super 1764 01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:14,120 Speaker 7: Bowl commercial last year. You know, we got a super 1765 01:31:14,120 --> 01:31:17,000 Speaker 7: Bowl coming up this year? Didn't she and Willing Dafoe 1766 01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:21,320 Speaker 7: do that? That Michelobultra they were betting on it. 1767 01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:23,200 Speaker 1: I don't remember what she was in, but I know 1768 01:31:23,240 --> 01:31:25,160 Speaker 1: that she was in an ad that was like a 1769 01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:27,000 Speaker 1: you know, Lie profile by So. 1770 01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:29,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, and she was in she was in Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice 1771 01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:33,280 Speaker 7: relatively recently. So yeah, that's really sad. I mean it's 1772 01:31:33,320 --> 01:31:37,600 Speaker 7: it was unexpected, you know, it's it's always and she 1773 01:31:37,680 --> 01:31:39,920 Speaker 7: was because she was actively working. I know she had 1774 01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:43,040 Speaker 7: had at an illness, but you don't expect that, like 1775 01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:46,080 Speaker 7: if it's somebody who's like when when Gene Hackman passed 1776 01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:49,080 Speaker 7: away as sad as that was, he had taken himself 1777 01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:52,679 Speaker 7: out of acting for so long that you didn't even 1778 01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:55,000 Speaker 7: realize he was still around because we didn't have a 1779 01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:58,439 Speaker 7: public persona from that and you know, David Hedison was 1780 01:31:58,479 --> 01:32:00,840 Speaker 7: somebody who nobody remembers he was. He was in the 1781 01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:04,920 Speaker 7: Original Fly. He played Felix Lighter in a couple of 1782 01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:07,840 Speaker 7: James Bond movies. He was well into his nineties when 1783 01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:09,920 Speaker 7: he passed away, and it kind of surprised me because 1784 01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:12,160 Speaker 7: he hadn't heard from him in a while. But but yeah, 1785 01:32:12,200 --> 01:32:14,880 Speaker 7: Catherine O'Hara, that that kind of came. 1786 01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:15,240 Speaker 8: As a shock. 1787 01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:18,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, shit's Creek in a Beatle Juice, the 1788 01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:21,479 Speaker 1: Home Alone movies, SCTV. But I mean, all these things, 1789 01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:25,639 Speaker 1: and she just seemed like just the sweetest, coolest lady. 1790 01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:28,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I realized she's was an actor, so that 1791 01:32:28,240 --> 01:32:30,640 Speaker 1: I mean, that's kind of the gig she had if 1792 01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:33,160 Speaker 1: they were just characters. But I mean, she just I 1793 01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:35,559 Speaker 1: don't know if you can necessarily still be very good 1794 01:32:35,560 --> 01:32:38,639 Speaker 1: at hiding that. She just seemed like a cool mom 1795 01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:40,800 Speaker 1: is what she kind of reminded me of always. So 1796 01:32:41,400 --> 01:32:44,960 Speaker 1: that's a bummer. Now you mentioned Bond stuff, and you 1797 01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:47,960 Speaker 1: see Chris a message let me let me read it verbatim. 1798 01:32:48,280 --> 01:32:49,840 Speaker 1: And I'm not going to cap on him, but he 1799 01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:52,120 Speaker 1: was kind of he says, hey, Starling, I know your 1800 01:32:52,120 --> 01:32:55,000 Speaker 1: movie dude doesn't take questions there. I heard the entire 1801 01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:57,400 Speaker 1: James Bond series and going to be on Netflix for 1802 01:32:57,439 --> 01:32:59,840 Speaker 1: a limited time. Ask him if it's true or fake. 1803 01:33:02,240 --> 01:33:05,320 Speaker 7: I haven't. Well, let's put this way. I haven't dug 1804 01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:08,120 Speaker 7: deep enough to like be like, oh, it's some weird posts. 1805 01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:11,040 Speaker 7: But I've heard that too. And the reason I find 1806 01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:17,760 Speaker 7: that odd is because Amazon owns the Jameson franchise. But 1807 01:33:19,160 --> 01:33:21,439 Speaker 7: it's a great way to get more people with their 1808 01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:24,040 Speaker 7: eyes on it if they're certainly going to be rebooting it, 1809 01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:27,640 Speaker 7: which they're they're looking to, and it wouldn't be a 1810 01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:29,599 Speaker 7: bad idea to do that and get it seen by 1811 01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:33,320 Speaker 7: more people because what's happening with streaming is what I 1812 01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:35,719 Speaker 7: you know, tip of my hat to myself. I predicted 1813 01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:39,800 Speaker 7: this a while back. People would consolidate into their own services, 1814 01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:43,639 Speaker 7: so not everybody has Amazon Prime right which I believe 1815 01:33:43,680 --> 01:33:46,360 Speaker 7: they're on now, and a lot of people have Netflix, 1816 01:33:46,439 --> 01:33:48,840 Speaker 7: so that gets more eyes on it, and Netflix will 1817 01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:52,479 Speaker 7: pay Amazon for the rights to it, So it's kind 1818 01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:55,080 Speaker 7: of a win win for that from a business dealing 1819 01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:59,000 Speaker 7: sort of thing, because there used to be everything. Everything 1820 01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:01,400 Speaker 7: was just one serve and you couldn't get it elsewhere, 1821 01:34:01,439 --> 01:34:03,920 Speaker 7: but it's sort of diversified. It's been put on other 1822 01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:04,599 Speaker 7: places now. 1823 01:34:04,840 --> 01:34:07,120 Speaker 1: Talking to Kevin Carr, by the way, is silver Gecko 1824 01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:09,720 Speaker 1: on substack Sterling on the Big One talking about this 1825 01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:11,960 Speaker 1: James Bond stuff, And it is interesting and it does 1826 01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:15,599 Speaker 1: say that all twenty five films, that's a lot. It's 1827 01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:17,680 Speaker 1: hard for me to process that that's the case. But 1828 01:34:17,880 --> 01:34:20,640 Speaker 1: I guess twenty five is what it is. And do 1829 01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:23,040 Speaker 1: we know what kind of money because there is a 1830 01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:26,839 Speaker 1: lot of that stuff that moves from one service to another. 1831 01:34:27,040 --> 01:34:29,439 Speaker 1: Some big franchises. I don't know how many. You're bigger 1832 01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:32,080 Speaker 1: than the Bond films, honestly, but I mean it is 1833 01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:34,639 Speaker 1: like you said, it's a nice feeder from one service 1834 01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:37,519 Speaker 1: to another, and you make money while bringing more people 1835 01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:39,599 Speaker 1: into your under your tent or umbrella too. 1836 01:34:40,160 --> 01:34:43,839 Speaker 7: Yeah, well you can get licensing fees or somehow. Sometimes 1837 01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:47,320 Speaker 7: it ends up weird, like Yellowstone. Yellowstone is a Paramount 1838 01:34:47,479 --> 01:34:54,200 Speaker 7: yeah show, but they licensed Yellowstone, the original series to Peacock, 1839 01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:59,240 Speaker 7: and so Peacock was what was carrying Yellowstone. But then 1840 01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:04,800 Speaker 7: all the other ancillary programs is on Paramount Plus. Now, 1841 01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:06,960 Speaker 7: like if it's a series, a lot of times they 1842 01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:09,479 Speaker 7: try to consolidate it and keep it so you watch 1843 01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:12,400 Speaker 7: it on their service until it gets old enough, and 1844 01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:14,599 Speaker 7: then they'll kind of cycle it out or if it's 1845 01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:17,840 Speaker 7: already old, Like I don't know how much. Netflix pays 1846 01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:21,760 Speaker 7: an exorbitant amount of money for the to be able 1847 01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:23,120 Speaker 7: to string Seinfeld. 1848 01:35:24,200 --> 01:35:25,040 Speaker 2: So they. 1849 01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:29,200 Speaker 7: Because that's a popular show, people will rewatch and that 1850 01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:32,080 Speaker 7: sort of thing. But I don't think they put on 1851 01:35:32,120 --> 01:35:35,519 Speaker 7: stuff like the office or parks and rec That stuff 1852 01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:38,240 Speaker 7: is kept on the NBC the Peacock property. 1853 01:35:38,400 --> 01:35:40,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, which and I get that too, some of that 1854 01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:44,960 Speaker 1: moved around. That's crazy, that show, the Seinfeld was on it. 1855 01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:48,479 Speaker 1: We discussed this before. It's bewildering to me. So for 1856 01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:51,360 Speaker 1: nine years that was on, it has been streaming longer 1857 01:35:51,400 --> 01:35:54,840 Speaker 1: than it was on. It continues to be incredibly popular, 1858 01:35:55,600 --> 01:35:57,920 Speaker 1: and it is a show about nothing that somehow relates 1859 01:35:57,960 --> 01:35:58,559 Speaker 1: to everything. 1860 01:35:59,200 --> 01:35:59,599 Speaker 3: That's great. 1861 01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:01,680 Speaker 7: Well, I mean it is a show about nothing, but 1862 01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:04,439 Speaker 7: but it's really your basic three friends show. I mean, 1863 01:36:04,840 --> 01:36:08,599 Speaker 7: each episode was certainly about something. And what's really funny 1864 01:36:08,640 --> 01:36:12,519 Speaker 7: is I talk every Christmas about the Festivus episode that's right, 1865 01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:16,000 Speaker 7: which which isn't named about Festivus. Nobody remembers that the 1866 01:36:16,160 --> 01:36:18,960 Speaker 7: episode was about. It was about like there was a 1867 01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:23,280 Speaker 7: bagel store something that was striking or or or somebody 1868 01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:27,840 Speaker 7: was striking and Kramer owned a bagel store or or 1869 01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:30,120 Speaker 7: had a free I had had a stake in it. 1870 01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:33,000 Speaker 7: And it was called the Strike, So somebody was striking this. 1871 01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:36,000 Speaker 7: But then it had that subplot with Festivus, which is 1872 01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:37,439 Speaker 7: now what everybody remembers it for. 1873 01:36:37,760 --> 01:36:40,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an amazing thing and good for them for 1874 01:36:40,920 --> 01:36:44,200 Speaker 1: doing that. So uh, I just I'd like something to 1875 01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:46,639 Speaker 1: last that long, But I guess everybody does, right, I mean, 1876 01:36:47,120 --> 01:36:49,479 Speaker 1: I mean, how many people have something that they put 1877 01:36:49,479 --> 01:36:52,040 Speaker 1: together that somehow stands the test of time because as 1878 01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:54,000 Speaker 1: data is is it may be like some of the 1879 01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:56,080 Speaker 1: clothes and some of the stuff, but it's still just 1880 01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:59,639 Speaker 1: three freaky weird or for whatever you know, ensemble cast 1881 01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:03,240 Speaker 1: a weird those hanging out that somehow just fits and works. 1882 01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:06,080 Speaker 7: Well and no one needs to work again with just 1883 01:37:06,120 --> 01:37:08,559 Speaker 7: the royalties, I mean, and it was interesting to watch 1884 01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:11,280 Speaker 7: where they went. I mean, you know, Michael Richards decided 1885 01:37:11,320 --> 01:37:14,280 Speaker 7: to torpedo his career, but he's going to be financially fine. Yeah, 1886 01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:18,320 Speaker 7: And you know George Cassanza that's that. That was the 1887 01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:22,960 Speaker 7: Jason Alexander. He he continued doing other things. I mean, 1888 01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:25,479 Speaker 7: Julie Louis Dreyfus kept it. She did movies. I think 1889 01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:30,439 Speaker 7: she did Veep Beep was after she did Seinfeld New 1890 01:37:30,439 --> 01:37:32,719 Speaker 7: Adventures of Old Christine. She's had about three or four 1891 01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:39,439 Speaker 7: recognizable shows, and she's already famously well seen with out 1892 01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:42,760 Speaker 7: the Hollywood stuff. But yeah, Larry David is just like, 1893 01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:44,400 Speaker 7: I'm going to do something else. I'm going to do 1894 01:37:44,439 --> 01:37:46,760 Speaker 7: a show. Oh they're going to keep showing my show 1895 01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:50,519 Speaker 7: on HBO. Great, I'll just collect more money. And then 1896 01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:56,200 Speaker 7: Seinfeld kind of didn't you know, and he occasionally come 1897 01:37:56,240 --> 01:37:57,639 Speaker 7: out of his hobbit hole. 1898 01:37:59,439 --> 01:38:01,120 Speaker 3: He does some stay stand up. 1899 01:38:01,120 --> 01:38:03,320 Speaker 1: He quit for a while and did it all that, 1900 01:38:03,400 --> 01:38:05,800 Speaker 1: you know, all the old stuff, and then threw it away, 1901 01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:08,880 Speaker 1: which nobody does. It's just crazy. And then he still 1902 01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:11,360 Speaker 1: comes around. I mean, what else are you going to do? Though, 1903 01:38:11,640 --> 01:38:13,599 Speaker 1: I mean, aside from the amount of money, if you're 1904 01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:16,960 Speaker 1: passionate and love something that you do, which is a 1905 01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:19,920 Speaker 1: blessing in itself, why wouldn't you just keep doing what 1906 01:38:19,960 --> 01:38:21,559 Speaker 1: you do whenever you want to do it? 1907 01:38:22,160 --> 01:38:24,400 Speaker 7: Well, that's why I always tell people when they when 1908 01:38:24,400 --> 01:38:26,040 Speaker 7: they want to figure out what they're doing, you say, 1909 01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:30,880 Speaker 7: imagine you won the lottery. You the big, the big jackpoty, 1910 01:38:30,880 --> 01:38:33,240 Speaker 7: you know, the eight hundred million domes and not some 1911 01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:36,920 Speaker 7: paltry one or two million times huge jackpot that you 1912 01:38:36,920 --> 01:38:38,360 Speaker 7: are not going to have to work over again in 1913 01:38:38,360 --> 01:38:40,360 Speaker 7: your life. And as long as you don't blow it 1914 01:38:40,439 --> 01:38:43,679 Speaker 7: on you know, drugs and prostitutes, you're gonna be fine. 1915 01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:48,360 Speaker 3: But nice weekend, though, Do you get it all. 1916 01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:49,880 Speaker 7: Out of your system? What do you do when you 1917 01:38:49,920 --> 01:38:51,600 Speaker 7: wake up in the morning and then you make that 1918 01:38:51,680 --> 01:38:52,400 Speaker 7: your your job? 1919 01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:53,000 Speaker 3: Right? 1920 01:38:53,320 --> 01:38:55,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it's a it's a it's a good way 1921 01:38:55,520 --> 01:38:57,719 Speaker 1: to put it, speaking of a guy who just keeps working. 1922 01:38:58,240 --> 01:39:00,800 Speaker 3: And uh, how old Jason State? 1923 01:39:00,840 --> 01:39:02,960 Speaker 1: And now it seems like that guy's been making movies 1924 01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:05,840 Speaker 1: since we were kids, and I know that's not possible. 1925 01:39:06,479 --> 01:39:10,759 Speaker 7: Well, his close i mean close is well not that close, 1926 01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:13,600 Speaker 7: but I mean his first one that really kind of 1927 01:39:13,600 --> 01:39:16,559 Speaker 7: anyone knew him from was Lockstock and Two Smoking Barrels 1928 01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:21,760 Speaker 7: Guy Ritchie movie. I believe that was around the turn 1929 01:39:21,760 --> 01:39:24,040 Speaker 7: of the century. It was like maybe ninety eight something 1930 01:39:24,120 --> 01:39:26,800 Speaker 7: like that, So, I mean we weren't kids in but 1931 01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:30,240 Speaker 7: it's he's been around for a while. He's got to 1932 01:39:30,280 --> 01:39:33,920 Speaker 7: be I don't have his I was going to fifty eight. Yeah, 1933 01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:38,519 Speaker 7: he's pushing sixty. But I would love to know because 1934 01:39:38,600 --> 01:39:42,000 Speaker 7: he still dies his hair, no matter how short it is, 1935 01:39:42,120 --> 01:39:44,400 Speaker 7: because his signature is like sort of a five o'clock 1936 01:39:44,479 --> 01:39:45,560 Speaker 7: shadow everywhere. 1937 01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:48,400 Speaker 3: That's correct, It's still died, you know. 1938 01:39:48,479 --> 01:39:51,599 Speaker 7: I meant it's certain point something like like in this movie, 1939 01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:53,360 Speaker 7: he's got a little bit of it's got some salt 1940 01:39:53,360 --> 01:39:55,800 Speaker 7: in the pepper on the cheeks. 1941 01:39:56,880 --> 01:39:59,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm not dying. 1942 01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:02,800 Speaker 1: Do you think that's I mean, he's producing some of 1943 01:40:02,840 --> 01:40:04,320 Speaker 1: these or has a hand in it. I don't know 1944 01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:06,519 Speaker 1: if that's my title in just an extra revenue stoom 1945 01:40:06,600 --> 01:40:09,120 Speaker 1: or if he's actually doing it. But I mean, do 1946 01:40:09,160 --> 01:40:11,040 Speaker 1: you think they go, dude, you've got to at least 1947 01:40:11,120 --> 01:40:12,920 Speaker 1: dye the hair on your head or just wmy not 1948 01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:14,519 Speaker 1: shave it and leave it just as it is. 1949 01:40:14,680 --> 01:40:16,599 Speaker 3: It worked obviously for Bruce Willis. 1950 01:40:17,880 --> 01:40:20,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I mean, well yeah, there work for and 1951 01:40:20,439 --> 01:40:22,880 Speaker 7: Statum's done him where he's kind of pretty much shaved 1952 01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:28,519 Speaker 7: on the top, but yeah, he he has different later 1953 01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:31,280 Speaker 7: you know, lengths of stubble, you know, what's weird. I 1954 01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:35,439 Speaker 7: guess what you would describe him. He would look strange 1955 01:40:35,439 --> 01:40:37,120 Speaker 7: with the full head of hair, though, wouldn't. 1956 01:40:36,840 --> 01:40:38,640 Speaker 1: He Yeah, I have no idea. I don't even know 1957 01:40:38,640 --> 01:40:40,000 Speaker 1: what the dude that would look like that way. And 1958 01:40:40,040 --> 01:40:42,839 Speaker 1: it seems really weird that we're discussing his like facial 1959 01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:46,519 Speaker 1: and dome grooming at this point rather than the actual movie. 1960 01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:48,360 Speaker 1: I'm a little uncomfortable and feel bothered. 1961 01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:50,960 Speaker 7: Well, I still think he should like growing out, and 1962 01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:54,160 Speaker 7: I'd like to do him a Harper Marx level of 1963 01:40:54,439 --> 01:40:57,080 Speaker 7: or Larry Fine from The Three Stooges. Not that I 1964 01:40:57,080 --> 01:40:57,760 Speaker 7: would love to see. 1965 01:40:57,840 --> 01:40:59,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, i'd pay to see that on a big screen, 1966 01:40:59,400 --> 01:40:59,920 Speaker 3: that's for sure. 1967 01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:02,760 Speaker 1: Now that this new thing is called Shelter and uh, 1968 01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:05,120 Speaker 1: it's got some people at Bill NYA, I'd liked everything 1969 01:41:05,160 --> 01:41:08,200 Speaker 1: that guy's done. He's just tremendous. And Naomi Aki is 1970 01:41:08,280 --> 01:41:09,599 Speaker 1: kind of cool too. I don't know if I say 1971 01:41:09,640 --> 01:41:10,320 Speaker 1: their name right. 1972 01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:13,559 Speaker 3: Who's in? What is this about? Is this worth our time? 1973 01:41:14,360 --> 01:41:17,240 Speaker 7: Well? Okay, so here's the thing. It's January. So we 1974 01:41:17,320 --> 01:41:19,360 Speaker 7: got to have ad Jason Statham action movie. That's just 1975 01:41:19,439 --> 01:41:21,320 Speaker 7: kind of the rules. Now, that's how you get and 1976 01:41:21,439 --> 01:41:24,680 Speaker 7: we've Yeah, I mean you've seen, we've you've seen. I 1977 01:41:24,680 --> 01:41:27,320 Speaker 7: can guarantee you you've seen this movie. They're different characters 1978 01:41:27,320 --> 01:41:30,680 Speaker 7: and names and locations, but you've seen this movie. And 1979 01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:34,800 Speaker 7: if you like Jason Statham action movies, and you kind 1980 01:41:34,800 --> 01:41:38,080 Speaker 7: of just they kind of know their place. They're not 1981 01:41:38,280 --> 01:41:41,920 Speaker 7: trying to become a big blockbuster, and they're not even 1982 01:41:41,960 --> 01:41:44,080 Speaker 7: trying to like compete with the Fast and Furious movies, 1983 01:41:44,080 --> 01:41:46,479 Speaker 7: which he's in. But you know, they're not trying to 1984 01:41:46,479 --> 01:41:49,280 Speaker 7: be They don't think that this isn't gonna make a 1985 01:41:49,280 --> 01:41:52,360 Speaker 7: one hundred million dollars even in the theaters. But they 1986 01:41:52,360 --> 01:41:54,719 Speaker 7: put them out there and it's a nice little cottage industry, 1987 01:41:54,760 --> 01:41:57,400 Speaker 7: and and that's basically what you got. He's he's a 1988 01:41:57,479 --> 01:42:01,880 Speaker 7: he's an ex assassin for am I six and he's 1989 01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:05,679 Speaker 7: retired and he's hiding out and he basically left and 1990 01:42:05,720 --> 01:42:08,680 Speaker 7: he's he's in his old handler tracks him down and 1991 01:42:08,720 --> 01:42:10,760 Speaker 7: then they send people after him and he's got to 1992 01:42:10,760 --> 01:42:14,960 Speaker 7: defend himself and a sort of an an orphan girl 1993 01:42:15,120 --> 01:42:17,800 Speaker 7: that that he sort of picks up along the way 1994 01:42:17,840 --> 01:42:20,040 Speaker 7: because she needs somebody to take care of him. And 1995 01:42:20,080 --> 01:42:22,360 Speaker 7: so you get a little you get his action and 1996 01:42:22,400 --> 01:42:24,920 Speaker 7: you get a little bit of that sort of you know, 1997 01:42:25,560 --> 01:42:30,360 Speaker 7: gruff fatherly figure type type thing. So he's you know, 1998 01:42:30,479 --> 01:42:34,679 Speaker 7: being trying to protect her and get her safe and 1999 01:42:34,920 --> 01:42:36,920 Speaker 7: hence the name shelter. But yeah, I mean that's what 2000 01:42:37,000 --> 01:42:40,000 Speaker 7: it is. But you know, you could just re you 2001 01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:43,120 Speaker 7: roll the dice and say, Okay, he's an ex CIA agent, 2002 01:42:43,240 --> 01:42:46,400 Speaker 7: He's an X you know, am I sixth agent, He's 2003 01:42:46,439 --> 01:42:47,599 Speaker 7: the next Massade agent. 2004 01:42:48,000 --> 01:42:49,400 Speaker 3: You know, he that's what he's doing. 2005 01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:52,320 Speaker 1: Take a movie, pick a year that those are pretty 2006 01:42:52,360 --> 01:42:54,040 Speaker 1: much the things that have happened too. 2007 01:42:54,479 --> 01:42:55,360 Speaker 3: That's funny. 2008 01:42:55,360 --> 01:42:59,160 Speaker 7: Why not, It's basically it's basically like Liam Neeson dead. 2009 01:42:59,120 --> 01:43:02,080 Speaker 1: That's true. I mean how many of those I mean 2010 01:43:02,640 --> 01:43:06,040 Speaker 1: taken to it's still gone. Took again? Uh, don't take me. 2011 01:43:06,240 --> 01:43:06,760 Speaker 1: I mean I don't know. 2012 01:43:07,439 --> 01:43:11,120 Speaker 7: But then there are others I think like, uh, decent 2013 01:43:11,160 --> 01:43:13,240 Speaker 7: got sold that he just he then had to drive 2014 01:43:13,280 --> 01:43:16,640 Speaker 7: everywhere and then you know he played he played like 2015 01:43:17,439 --> 01:43:21,280 Speaker 7: a ice plowur or you know, a person with a. 2016 01:43:23,160 --> 01:43:24,920 Speaker 5: Yeah. 2017 01:43:24,920 --> 01:43:27,439 Speaker 3: I mean it's seasonally correct right now. So I mean 2018 01:43:27,479 --> 01:43:27,840 Speaker 3: why not. 2019 01:43:28,160 --> 01:43:30,360 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're gonna do battles out there, having 2020 01:43:30,360 --> 01:43:31,920 Speaker 1: a blade on the front of your vehicle in this 2021 01:43:31,960 --> 01:43:32,880 Speaker 1: weather might be good. 2022 01:43:36,320 --> 01:43:38,519 Speaker 7: I'll put one on mind, just this massive one that 2023 01:43:38,560 --> 01:43:42,479 Speaker 7: you normally see on a giant forward truck, right. 2024 01:43:42,720 --> 01:43:44,720 Speaker 1: I just imagine the ads they had with those when 2025 01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:46,680 Speaker 1: they first came out. So that, yeah, that's funny, as 2026 01:43:46,680 --> 01:43:49,479 Speaker 1: I'll get out anything else this weekend worth watching. I 2027 01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:52,439 Speaker 1: mean there's so much stuff. I mean we've discussed it, 2028 01:43:52,479 --> 01:43:54,680 Speaker 1: whether it's streaming or otherwise, and I mean, you know, 2029 01:43:54,720 --> 01:43:55,800 Speaker 1: it's just overwhelming. 2030 01:43:56,360 --> 01:43:56,559 Speaker 15: Yeah. 2031 01:43:56,600 --> 01:43:58,840 Speaker 7: Now, I heard a lot of good things about Scent Health, 2032 01:43:58,960 --> 01:44:02,320 Speaker 7: which is the one with with the Dylan O'Brien, Yeah, 2033 01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:08,559 Speaker 7: Rachel McAdams. Yeah, And and they're they're they're they're you know, 2034 01:44:08,680 --> 01:44:11,280 Speaker 7: enemies at work that get trapped on a desert island 2035 01:44:11,360 --> 01:44:13,960 Speaker 7: or something. I don't know, I'd be happy being trapped 2036 01:44:13,960 --> 01:44:17,880 Speaker 7: on a desert island with Rachel mcaddens, you know. 2037 01:44:16,160 --> 01:44:16,360 Speaker 8: Yeah. 2038 01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:21,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, but you know it's it's I've heard a lot 2039 01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:24,280 Speaker 7: of good things. Sam Ramy he knows how to make movies. 2040 01:44:24,320 --> 01:44:26,840 Speaker 7: He he he did that great movie with her before 2041 01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:28,720 Speaker 7: he did Red Eye. You ever see Red Eye with 2042 01:44:28,800 --> 01:44:31,559 Speaker 7: Killian Murphy as the guy who's just next to on 2043 01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:34,559 Speaker 7: a plane and he's he's a blackmail in her or 2044 01:44:34,680 --> 01:44:37,640 Speaker 7: or extorting or something like that. But I've heard a 2045 01:44:37,640 --> 01:44:39,320 Speaker 7: lot of good things about that, And I know you're 2046 01:44:39,320 --> 01:44:40,880 Speaker 7: gonna get this this week and next week. There's a 2047 01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:44,599 Speaker 7: bunch of little stuff that's come out, Like next week 2048 01:44:44,720 --> 01:44:46,479 Speaker 7: is because Super Bowl, no one's gonna be going to 2049 01:44:46,479 --> 01:44:48,000 Speaker 7: the theaters. But you got a couple of things coming 2050 01:44:48,040 --> 01:44:53,240 Speaker 7: out next week, like the Dracula remake, and there's Kevin 2051 01:44:53,320 --> 01:44:56,519 Speaker 7: James is and something. So there's a lot of smaller 2052 01:44:56,560 --> 01:44:59,679 Speaker 7: movies coming out this weekend next and uh yeah, those. 2053 01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:02,280 Speaker 1: Are your choic There you go, shelter, send me help 2054 01:45:02,439 --> 01:45:04,760 Speaker 1: or send help. I might need help too, but that's 2055 01:45:04,840 --> 01:45:05,639 Speaker 1: neither here nor there. 2056 01:45:06,160 --> 01:45:07,599 Speaker 7: Rachel McAdam, Yes. 2057 01:45:07,479 --> 01:45:11,360 Speaker 1: Please, I will take the call. You can find Kevin Carr. 2058 01:45:11,400 --> 01:45:13,720 Speaker 1: He'll show up in your mailbox. There'll be comics and 2059 01:45:13,760 --> 01:45:15,799 Speaker 1: all kinds of other stuff too for you to produce. 2060 01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:19,559 Speaker 1: Silver Gecko is on the substack. And yeah, anything else 2061 01:45:19,560 --> 01:45:21,080 Speaker 1: before I let you bounce that I forgot. 2062 01:45:21,280 --> 01:45:24,160 Speaker 7: I think we're good. I'm not predicting whether this week. 2063 01:45:23,960 --> 01:45:26,280 Speaker 3: That's a good thing. Yeah, stick to what you're doing. 2064 01:45:26,360 --> 01:45:28,040 Speaker 1: Stay in your lane, as they say, and I'll try 2065 01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:30,639 Speaker 1: to maintain mine as well, Kevin, have a great weekend. 2066 01:45:31,200 --> 01:45:32,240 Speaker 3: We'll talk to you later. 2067 01:45:32,320 --> 01:45:35,120 Speaker 1: That's mister Carr's silver gecko on the substack straight away 2068 01:45:35,160 --> 01:45:37,840 Speaker 1: for lots more to do. Nation Station where the Reds play. 2069 01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:40,080 Speaker 1: Why because it's the home of the Reds. May not 2070 01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:42,920 Speaker 1: feel like spring, but it won't be long. We are 2071 01:45:43,120 --> 01:45:46,120 Speaker 1: just what is it, February twenty seventh. I'll be on 2072 01:45:46,280 --> 01:45:50,760 Speaker 1: before Spring Training Baseball right here on seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati,