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Speaker 1: Central Standard time. Welcome back. It is a Monday Football

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Speaker 1: Beast edition of the Bumper to Bumpert program on a

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Speaker 1: decidedly chilly Monday afternoon here in the twin cities of

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Speaker 1: Minneapolis and Saint Paul. My name is Dan Barrero, the

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Speaker 1: host of the program. Guardsy is tracking Goal to Go

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Speaker 1: for women's basketball Pacific Northwest, so he is out today

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Speaker 1: and the very ailing Brett Blakemore is in that share

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Speaker 2: I feel neck down better. That's good because.

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Speaker 1: Yester congestion, you had it in the chest? Is that

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Speaker 1: Yesterday it was bad. Head not so good. Solough.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like there's a tennis ball stuck in

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Speaker 1: I ask is that you know you don't blow your

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Speaker 1: makes some sense. We were delighted you were along for

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Speaker 1: this holiday ride today, and many of you I think

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Speaker 1: the broadcast. But on the other hand, good to have

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Speaker 1: you with us via the Bratshawn Brian Cafe in text

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Speaker 1: line which is six four six eight six. That's six

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Speaker 1: four six eight already. Matt from Montgomery, Minnesota. How much

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Speaker 1: of Dan show today will be used to break down

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Speaker 1: the Jim Corneilsen's Cornelisen's national anthem at the Bears game

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Speaker 1: last night doesn't get any better?

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Speaker 1: I don't know if the name has become big enough

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Speaker 1: Some of our audience may not know just how emotional

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Speaker 1: On day two of the Divisional Playoffs round, we reviewed

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Speaker 1: on sermons the Saturday games. We will get into the

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Speaker 1: Sunday games today. We will have two outstanding guests including

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Speaker 1: old buddy, my college roommate, Rick Bosch, will join at

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Speaker 1: five point thirty. I am an Indiana who's your football fan?

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Speaker 1: He is a Zealot. Ricky is an app He is

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Speaker 1: of it because we're out. We're going to distance today. Correct, No,

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Speaker 1: I think we're right at six tomorrow guards, he tells me.

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Speaker 1: if that's true, I didn't know it. That just adds

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Speaker 1: through the first two games of Divisional Round weekend. Sam

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Speaker 1: grant you Seattle looks the closest to dominant out there.

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Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't see anybody that blew me away.

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Speaker 1: made a series of mistakes. I think they play again tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: It's probably a five to six point game, maybe even closer.

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Speaker 1: Seven to sixty three, Guy, I agree. All I see

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Speaker 4: going to be you know, kind of this stuff, and

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Speaker 4: you stump for your guy, and and I don't think

432
00:25:58,560 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 4: there's anything wrong with that.

433
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 1: He had was a twenty six in the fourth quarter

434
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 1: against San Antonio Davey of his fifty five. They almost

435
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 1: come back and steal one against the Spurs without Rudy,

436
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 1: without Knas, who I think played only five minutes in

437
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: that game. Use that game or whatever else as instrument

438
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: to explain analytically what is different about Anthony, especially at

439
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:30,919
Speaker 1: so called pressure time, clutch time and seeing from the

440
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,239
Speaker 1: eye test, what you see that looks like he is

441
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: becoming a different player.

442
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

443
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 4: So, I actually been working on a story about this, Dan,

444
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 4: So I have the numbers right in excellent, And so

445
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 4: let's just look in his first five seasons in the

446
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 4: league and in the restricted area right near the rim,

447
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 4: with shooting sixty four percent from the field today this

448
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 4: season seventy two percent first five seasons in the league,

449
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 4: fifty on drive to the basket today sixty percent. Clutch

450
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 4: time scoring, which last year was a real problem for

451
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 4: Anthony Edwards for much of the season. Last year he

452
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 4: shot forty two percent in clutch time scenarios for the Timberwolves.

453
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 4: This year seventy two percent. And this is not like

454
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 4: a small sample size anymore. Dan Like, he is constantly

455
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 4: in these scenarios, and he's getting the bulk of the shot,

456
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 4: and he's making ridiculous shot after ridiculous shots.

457
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 3: And so he looked at last season.

458
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 4: What he needed to improve on, and his two main

459
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 4: things were finishing at the rim and then making better

460
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 4: decisions in crunch time scenarios. And he has done that

461
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 4: in spades through the first half of this season. All

462
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 4: of the work that he has put in in the

463
00:27:55,760 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 4: summertime with assistant coach Chris Hines, with the entire development staff,

464
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 4: and just him identifying those weaknesses and then turning them

465
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 4: not into just like okay parts of his game, but

466
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 4: massive strengths. It just shows the huge step forward that

467
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 4: he's made. And finally, Dan just that decision making components

468
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 4: with the ball in his hands more as the point

469
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 4: guard of the scheme, he is more reliable. So he

470
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 4: is a much better player in so many facets than

471
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 4: he was last year. And that's the credit to the

472
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 4: work that he's put into it.

473
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 1: Jeff and Monticello has a theory. I want to run

474
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: it by you. Maybe these voting results are the result

475
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: of him admitting that he does not work hard every

476
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: night and offers smug comments when asked. Maybe this doesn't

477
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: sit well with Minnesota voters. And here is the result,

478
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: as Jeff in Mancella, what do you.

479
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 4: Think, man, I don't know about that. Does he ever

480
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 4: admit that he doesn't work hard? I mean, certainly he's

481
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 4: said that there are games that he plays in the

482
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 4: season when he doesn't have it or when he's not spoken.

483
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 4: That's true, but he is it taught to any Timberwolves

484
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 4: player coach. He's one of the very, very hardest workers

485
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 4: on the team. He puts more work into his game individually,

486
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,479
Speaker 4: in practices in all summer long than pretty much anyone

487
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 4: else on the roster. If you want to ding him Dan,

488
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,959
Speaker 4: I would say ding him more on what he has

489
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 4: shown in the All Star Games. When he's shown up

490
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 4: there the last three years. He shows no interest in playing.

491
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 4: He doesn't he doesn't want to be competitive, he doesn't want.

492
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 3: To do any of that.

493
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 4: If that turns you off, great, I can say, yes,

494
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 4: that's a good argument to make about Anthony Edwards is

495
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 4: that he just does not want to be in that

496
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 4: game and he doesn't you know, he doesn't really take

497
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 4: it seriously like many of the other players, But in

498
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 4: terms of the day to day you know what he brings. Yeah,

499
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 4: there's gonna be a games here or there where he's

500
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 4: not in it and he doesn't play well. But he's

501
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 4: been remarkably consistent for much of this season.

502
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: Your seri is far more believable than Jeff's. I dare say,

503
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: I think there's a decent chance Jeff barely or rarely

504
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: watches Anthony Edwards work. I could be wrong, and Jeff

505
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: if you're watching every minute of every game. God bless you,

506
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: and I'll I'll back up. I just have a feeling

507
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: you're dealing with some emotions and just some You've drawn

508
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: some conclusions on the basis of a couple of offhanded

509
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: comments you didn't like. I don't know how you come away.

510
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: He's not the perfect player. He's had to get better.

511
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: He still could get better. I don't know how you

512
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: come away saying that. Among the things that bug you

513
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: about Anthony Edwards is that man he just kind of

514
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: seems to mail it in so much of the time.

515
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're watching. I have no idea,

516
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: but it's not it's not the Timberwolves, and it's not

517
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,479
Speaker 1: the NBA. Other than if you just have your one

518
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: of those individuals who decides to profile NBA players. It

519
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: makes absolutely I mean, it's ridiculous. It makes absolutely no.

520
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 4: Sense to hope for jess sake, Dan, I hope for

521
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 4: jesstake that he isn't watching, because if he is watching

522
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 4: and that's what he pulls out of it, then he's

523
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 4: got much bigger problems than whatever he's dealing with right now,

524
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 4: which I think are probably significant in and of themselves.

525
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: There's no question. By the way you mentioned this seventy

526
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: clutch time. Two things. One define clutch time in that

527
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: statistical term, and how far ahead is he of even

528
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: who's second, third, or fourth in that percentage.

529
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, so clutch time is defined in the NBA stats

530
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,479
Speaker 4: by if the if the game is plus or minus

531
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 4: five points in the final four minutes or five minutes

532
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 4: of the of the fourth quarter and over, so that

533
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 4: all fits in with that, And so it's a it's

534
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 4: you know, it's a good portion of the game, which

535
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 4: means you know, it's not sure two minutes or something,

536
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 4: which is notable. I don't have the other list of prey,

537
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 4: but I do know that I think like if you

538
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 4: look at the next best one, if I remember right,

539
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 4: was like at I want to state's under sixty percent.

540
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 3: For field goals.

541
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 4: From when you talk about main guys who are taking

542
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 4: the bulk of the shots. And so it's like astronomically

543
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 4: higher than anyone else if you were to graph it,

544
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 4: and would be up in the top right corner, barely

545
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 4: visible on the screen, where to whereas everyone else is

546
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 4: much more clustered toward the middle of the graph. It's

547
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 4: like it is an enormous gap between Anthony Edwards and

548
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 4: the rest of the field.

549
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: All right, so help me A texture has brought this up?

550
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: And yeah, I maybe I think I'm now confused too.

551
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: Are we not doing so when we say here's the

552
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six West NBA All Star starters, I thought

553
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: we were separating the teams you asked, versus the world.

554
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: So how does this factor into that?

555
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 3: Right?

556
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 4: So you're right, and the texture is right this year,

557
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 4: which is I don't really agree with it. But it's

558
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 4: like a round robin tournament with the US and the

559
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 4: world teams and they're going to be mixed and matched

560
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 4: and they're going to play each other and it's going

561
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 4: to be I think it's going to be a ridiculous

562
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 4: kind of thing to try and salvage the game, but

563
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 4: it doesn't work anyway. But anyways, the starters are just

564
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 4: announced West and East because that's how you can vote

565
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 4: for the two teams. Like, there's just no way to

566
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 4: like make the voting easier, to say, well, you got

567
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 4: to have the international players, and you got to have

568
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 4: the then you got to have the American players, and

569
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 4: then you got to have the young players who are

570
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 4: also going to get a.

571
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 3: Crack at this thing.

572
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 4: So it's all a matter of convenience in terms of

573
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 4: voting an organization. But once they get to Los Angeles

574
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 4: for the All Star Game, they are going to break

575
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 4: these teams up. It's not going to be West and

576
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 4: East anymore.

577
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: So confusing, and so it's, you know, the moral of

578
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,719
Speaker 1: the story. You know, I've talked about this before. If

579
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: you have to work this hard to try to save

580
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: the thing, maybe it's not worth saving. I don't know,

581
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: we'll see, maybe maybe out my head will be turned

582
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: this year. I'm not sure. Let's get to the playoffs.

583
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: Johnny Athletic is joining us. The Divisional round wrapped up yesterday,

584
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: Bears the Rams outlasting the Bears in ot and New

585
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: England dominating early in the early game as well against

586
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: the Houston Texans. So we're all doing the cliched looking

587
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: for lessons that the Vikings might learn through what we've

588
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: seen Saturday and Sunday. What strikes you, what stands out

589
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 1: to you in that regard?

590
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know, I'm not I was trying

591
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 4: to think about that a little bit, Dan, in terms

592
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 4: of what the Vikings can take away from this and

593
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,439
Speaker 4: I'm honestly a little bit at a loss in terms

594
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 4: of directly and applying it to them, because.

595
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:52,919
Speaker 3: The field I think is very uninspired. Yes, Like, you know, I.

596
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 4: Don't think that there is a one team that you

597
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 4: look at here in this final four. I don't think

598
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 4: there was one team in this entire weekend of the

599
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 4: Final eight that you said, oh, you know, they're doing

600
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 4: it the right way, they have the blueprint. All It

601
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 4: just seems like all of these teams, whether they have injuries,

602
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 4: whether their quarterbacks are good or not, whether their defenses

603
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 4: are great or not, they just start sort of surviving

604
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 4: and advancing. And so I look at this, you know,

605
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 4: this conference finals weekend, which is usually great, and then

606
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 4: the super Bowl. It's gonna be kind of a myth

607
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 4: to me, Like, I don't know, I don't know what

608
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 4: you drop them in. New England's schedule has been incredibly easy.

609
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 3: Should the Vikings try to do that?

610
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 4: Whether they will have a these year schedule next year

611
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 4: because of their where they finished in the NFC North,

612
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 4: you know, maybe that'll be the key. But yeah, you know,

613
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 4: like all these teams are just kind of like, yeah,

614
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 4: they're good, but but I don't I look at them,

615
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 4: and I'm just like, I don't know that there's any

616
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 4: blueprint to follower, to try and mimic and say we

617
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 4: need to do it like these guys because they've got

618
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 4: it all figured out.

619
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: That's fair, I said earlier. I mean the other way

620
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: to look at it is if it's not a year,

621
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: it's a year where if you are in the mix

622
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: and can get to the postseason, you feel like, I

623
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: don't even think we have to apologize not only for

624
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: being here, but going all the way to the Super Bowl.

625
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: I mean, Seattle might be because of their defense, a

626
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: team that you go, okay, that's that might be a

627
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 1: really good team, but that's the closest and they have

628
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: a perennial journeyman quarterback who maybe has figured some stuff

629
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: out seem to hear until the end has been up

630
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 1: and down this year for Seattle, that to me would

631
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: be the frustrating part of the Langs Vans they got.

632
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: If you could have found a way to piece it

633
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 1: together after fourteen and three with some semblance of competence

634
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: at the quarterback position, they ain't nobody to be afraid of.

635
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: It's in this entire field NFC or AFC.

636
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 3: One hundred Yeah. I agree with that one hundred percent.

637
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 4: And that is where if you want to have, you know,

638
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 4: hindsight in turn looking at the Viking decision at quarterbacks,

639
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 4: one thing that it bothers me right now a little bit.

640
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 4: Dan is like is looking at the Seahawks making the

641
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 4: NFC Championship game and you say, oh, man, they were

642
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 4: led there by Sam Donald. I don't think that's the case.

643
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 3: He had.

644
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 4: He had a really he had a good year at

645
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 4: the start, but he really tailed off towards the end,

646
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 4: and he was ordinary at best in that game either

647
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 4: this weekend, and they didn't win because of Sam Donald.

648
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Speaker 4: But it does, I think get to your point of

649
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 4: you don't need superstar quarterback to get there, you need

650
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 4: a competent quarterback to get there. And I think the

651
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 4: Vikings could have said that as well if they had

652
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 4: competent quarterback play all season long. And that so that

653
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 4: means if they had kept Donald or or found another way. Yeah,

654
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 4: with this defense and with the way things were shaping

655
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 4: up with the rest of the NFC field, they could

656
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 4: have very con feevably been exactly where the Seahawks are

657
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 4: right now.

658
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 3: And so the bar is not that high. Too clear.

659
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 3: You just need to get.

660
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 4: Solid quarterback play and not great, because that's what Sam

661
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 4: Darnold has been to Seattle so much of the year.

662
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 4: He's been solid, but nothing spectacular.

663
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a believe it or not a

664
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Speaker 1: college football playoff question which may not necessarily be in

665
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: your wheelhouse, but I got asked this yesterday during sermons,

666
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: and well, we've heard this from one of other people,

667
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: your guy, Paul Finbaum, and with in Fiebaum's case it

668
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: could be again he's he's getting as being SEC guy.

669
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: He's getting ripped for his dismissal of the entire Indiana

670
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: experiment and run, and that part of the reason he

671
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: is saying, well, you know people are going to think

672
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: about this game for like a minute and a half.

673
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: It's his way to continue to tweak those individuals. On

674
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: the other hand, I've heard other people say when you

675
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 1: wedge this game in the day after the division in

676
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: this case this week at least division NFC, I should

677
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: say NFC and AFC Division playoff round, it does get

678
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: lost and you're better off playing this game. Finding a

679
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: way to work out the schedule to play this game,

680
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: maybe the Monday in between NFC title and AFC title

681
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: game weekend next weekend and the Super Bowl. Do you

682
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: buy any of that or do you think, well, no,

683
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's it is what it is. The

684
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: people are interested in it, they're gonna get into it,

685
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: and there's not that much you can do, you know,

686
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: trigger or moving the schedule around. What do you think it's.

687
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 4: Hard, Dan, because once you it's just the reality of

688
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 4: life that the NFL dominates the sports ecosystem, especially on television,

689
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 4: especially in January and early February as the playoffs go,

690
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 4: because I don't necessarily like moving it back to in

691
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 4: between you know, conference CHAMPI Chip and Super Bowl. That's

692
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 4: a long time, like like now you're talking about you know,

693
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 4: college football players not playing, you know, since the end

694
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 4: of November in their conference championship games, and that's like

695
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 4: two months or more until you get to to that

696
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 4: time you can put.

697
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 3: The playoffs in there as well.

698
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 4: It's just so long to be to be dragging that out,

699
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 4: and if you were to try to move it up

700
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 4: a few weeks, you're still running into the heart of

701
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 4: the NFL playoffs where there are you know, there's a

702
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 4: bunch of games on these weekends that are just kind

703
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 4: of taking up all of the airspace and not just

704
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 4: one or two. So I don't necessarily like where it

705
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 4: is right now, But I don't know what the solution

706
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,439
Speaker 4: would be that would automatically fix it, because I would

707
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 4: just worry about. You know, it does get lost right now,

708
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 4: but it's going to get really lost and forgotten about

709
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 4: if you have to wait another two weeks for this

710
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 4: thing to go on.

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00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 3: I think that's too long.

712
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 1: We doomed to watch history repeat itself for what would

713
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Speaker 1: I think be the third time as it relates to

714
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings coaching staff, and that is Brian Flores

715
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: getting a head coaching job this time around, because I

716
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: think he's moving up as a finalist for at least

717
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: one of the positions and going on to greatness that

718
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: we don't enjoy here Allah Tony Dungee back in the

719
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: day and Mike Tomlin as well, is our nightmare about

720
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: to recur for the third time.

721
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 4: I mean it's certainly possible, you know, when you look

722
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 4: at what Brian Flores, I would say this stand if

723
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 4: Brian Flores has truly evolved from the coach that he

724
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 4: was in Miami, and if you've learned something from Kevin O'Connell.

725
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 4: If he's a little bit kind of humbled the second

726
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 4: time around, he has maybe a little bit more interpersonal

727
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 4: skills that are mixed in with with the hard, driving,

728
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 4: hard pushing type of approach. It's entirely possible that he

729
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 4: goes to, you know, another team, to another situation and

730
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 4: wins at a really high level. You know, ideally you're

731
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,720
Speaker 4: probably in the first two to three years of having

732
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 4: that job. Before you know, people get a little bit burned.

733
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 3: Out on him. I mean, that's that's that's.

734
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 4: In play for sure. What I would be concerned about

735
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 4: if I were hiring Brian Flores is has he really

736
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,879
Speaker 4: learned from some of the mistakes that he made and

737
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 4: the way that he did alienate some of his players

738
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 4: and some of the organization on this way out in Miami,

739
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 4: And is he going to change his approach even a

740
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 4: little bit. Because there's no question he's an amazing coach.

741
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 4: X's and o's, he gets the most out of player

742
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 4: that he is coaching. Those are great, great traits, but

743
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 4: when you are the head coach, you have to leave

744
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 4: the whole team. And that's going to be the thing

745
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 4: that I think everyone would watch with Brian Flores, but

746
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 4: I wouldn't rule it out that he goes and wins

747
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl somewhere at all.

748
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's not reassuring to Now there are vikings fans,

749
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 1: you know what they want. They say, I'm not saying,

750
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: you know, Koc is worthy of being dismissed, but why

751
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: don't we trade him? We get we trade him for

752
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: a couple of draft choices, and then we just and

753
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: we move b flow up and everybody wins. We get

754
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: on legendary coach of the future. And to boot, we

755
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: get a couple of picks, and Kaos goes someplace in

756
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 1: quarterback whispers someplace else.

757
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, that would be he wouldn't that that

758
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 4: to me though, Dan feels a little bit like you

759
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 4: always love the backup quarterback until you actually have this.

760
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: That's fair in the spot.

761
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 4: And you know, I think I think Koc has done

762
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 4: enough to keep going here and get it, get another chance. Yes,

763
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 4: he has a lot to prove still, but there's been enough.

764
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 4: He's one enough at this level. He say all right,

765
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 4: let's stay with it, see if you can help him

766
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 4: out a little bit and go forward.

767
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 3: So I wouldn't do that necessarily if it was me.

768
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 4: But I can understand biking stands out there being a

769
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,919
Speaker 4: little restless after this season and being a little nervous that, yeah,

770
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 4: that we're you know, that they're letting Tomlin or Dungeye

771
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 4: leaves and he's going to go on to Great Heights

772
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 4: somewhere else.

773
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: Clayton from Rochester has a question too, that is for

774
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: you to answer. As we enter the Abyss. Johnny may

775
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 1: need something other than the wolves to think about. Would

776
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: he rather do an in studio beyond the Pond visit

777
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: or attend a Winter Twins caravan event?

778
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 3: Oh? Man, I would I would rather do on the pond.

779
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:46,720
Speaker 3: Beyond the pond.

780
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 4: It's a shorter drive because usually the caravan.

781
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 3: Events it's long ways away. Yeah, and on.

782
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 4: A Saturday morning, you know, yeah, gosh, a Saturday morning.

783
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 4: Am I going to burn that by you know, coming

784
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,399
Speaker 4: in there? But I think that I could, I could

785
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 4: make the most out of that. I could ruffle some feathers.

786
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 4: I could get the hockey intelligentsia all riled up and

787
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 4: then walk out of there with a smile on my

788
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 4: face and hope that they are aren't coming after me.

789
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 3: You know, in real life.

790
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 4: But that would be the more entertaining of the two,

791
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 4: because I can't imagine that there's much to get excited

792
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 4: about on the Twins caravan other than this new guy

793
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,720
Speaker 4: that they just signed unexpected to set the catcher.

794
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, your key card, sell your open invitation.

795
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 3: I don't.

796
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 4: I've never gotten a key card like I should be

797
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 4: offended by that.

798
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: So well, how why should you have a key card?

799
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: You come in like once a year, if that had.

800
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 4: Been I've been with a fan for like twenty years.

801
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 1: True, Yeah, well what it takes is a little bit.

802
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: But Glenn Mason has been in this studio probably five

803
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 1: hundred times. You be there four times? Well, that's that's

804
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: that's the box. I guess. Yeah, I think he Well

805
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: he's been at the safe Fit. No, you're there every

806
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: year at the fair. That's right, it's it's it's Seaford

807
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: who doesn't come at all. Seaford started boycotting affair. Yeah,

808
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: well but here's the ultimate test this year. Here's guy

809
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: who's the goofball singer. Oh weird, now we're now I

810
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: think it is, isn't he performing? I think I think

811
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: he's on the State Fair fair for the upcoming state Fair.

812
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: So that's going to be the ultimate test for Seaford

813
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: about boycotting the state Fair.

814
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 4: See, like what I would say to you, Dan if

815
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 4: if I would be more insulted if by you if

816
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 4: he shows up to you to your show on the

817
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 4: day of weird Al because the hero, well that's fair, like,

818
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 4: that's not even that's not even noble on his he

819
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 4: was coming there regardless, but that that's what it takes

820
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 4: for him to get there, and then you're like the

821
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 4: side dish us to his experience there. I would say no,

822
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 4: I would tell him, no, we're not going to have you.

823
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: Johnny, have a terrific week. We will chat next week.

824
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: Thank you. All right, thanks RBC Wealth Management Sponsors, Johnny

825
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: Athletic here on the fan. Let's make this the top

826
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: of the hour. Pause, lots of leftover texts to get

827
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: to more on the playoff weekend. Much to cover there.

828
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 1: We'll get into some other Toy Department subjects as well.

829
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: Rick Bositch is going to join us at five point

830
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: thirty to help us preview the National College College Football

831
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 1: Championship game that yes, does involve Indiana University. You know

832
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: we were once college roommates. We once shared an apartment

833
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: across the street from Amoryal Stadium. And I look back

834
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: to then and I think, when I do like an association, Well,

835
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: what do you think of from back then about Memorial Stadium. Basically,

836
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,720
Speaker 1: it was, oh, if you're you know, kind of running,

837
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: if you're a runner, it's kind of a cool thing

838
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: to run around. Had nothing to do with the football.

839
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 1: We didn't think of it as a football stadium. We

840
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: just thought about it as a con venient spot where

841
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: if you wanted to get some jogging in you could

842
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: just run around. The thing was all set up very nicely.

843
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 4: Hi.

844
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 1: Things have certainly changed.