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Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI on demand.

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Speaker 2: Glenn, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Hi John, No, I'm good in.

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Speaker 2: Oh sorry, Glenn, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Uh. I'm trying to be a Christian, okay, And I'm

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Speaker 3: convinced that I should be a Christian, but I struggle

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Speaker 3: with the idea that you a God house. So, sir,

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Speaker 3: the scene in the Garden of Gathsimone is my problem.

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Speaker 3: When you were trying, when the moment came for you

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Speaker 3: to die, suffer and die on that cross, you got

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Speaker 3: cold feet like any man and tried to cop out. Uh.

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Speaker 3: You were asking the Father, can't it be done some

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Speaker 3: other way? And God told you no, it is only

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Speaker 3: through you, your death and your resurrection that I'm going

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Speaker 3: to save this world. Now, that is what convinces me

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Speaker 3: that I should be a Christian, But it also is

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Speaker 3: what convinces me that you are not. Yeah, please help

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Speaker 3: me with that.

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Speaker 2: Sure, there is many things that can cause confusion because

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Speaker 2: of the duality of the nature that you're dealing with

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent man and one hundred percent God. God

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Speaker 2: didn't have to use the restroom either, God didn't have

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Speaker 2: to sleep either. But in the flesh there were not limitations,

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Speaker 2: but things that were placed on top of the deity

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Speaker 2: that were necessary to come in as the spotless Lamb.

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Speaker 2: Otherwise it wouldn't have made sense. What's taking place in

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Speaker 2: Gysseimite is not only a narrative between or a conversation

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Speaker 2: between the Father and I, but a narrative which is

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Speaker 2: now written down so that others can see and understand

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Speaker 2: the purpose of what was taking place. So it's for

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Speaker 2: your benefit. You can't get away from it, though in

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Speaker 2: John ten thirty where it says I and the Father

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Speaker 2: are one. Interestingly enough, here, Glenn, in addition to that

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Speaker 2: is John ten thirty three was the reaction to what

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Speaker 2: I said. They knew that I was claiming to be God.

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Speaker 2: Our Jewish others and sisters at this point says, it's

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Speaker 2: not good for you. It's not for your good work

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Speaker 2: that we are going to stone you, but for blasphemy,

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Speaker 2: because you, being a man, make yourself to be God

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Speaker 2: many times over in scripture. I claim to be God

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Speaker 2: many times over in scripture. I received worship when it

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Speaker 2: says in Revelation that none Revelation nineteen ten, that none

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Speaker 2: should receive worship but God. So if I was not God,

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Speaker 2: after claiming to be God, after showing manifestations, even the

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Speaker 2: Father referring to me as God as well in scripture

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Speaker 2: that if all those things are not true, then I

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Speaker 2: am a nutcase. There is no other option, because I

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Speaker 2: claim to be God, and if I was not God,

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Speaker 2: then I would be a liar. So the only thing

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Speaker 2: you can take from it is that I'm God. That's

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Speaker 2: what scripture says. Sue, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.

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Speaker 4: Hello.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Yes, this is where you ask your question.

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Speaker 4: Okay, how can I help you?

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Speaker 5: Yes, well, I've been listening to the show and I've

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Speaker 5: heard the man asked about how to present your testimony

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Speaker 5: basically or be a witness, and and your response was

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Speaker 5: both to to live your.

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Speaker 2: Life, yes, to live in a way that people want

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Speaker 2: to ask you about your faith, of course.

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Speaker 5: And then also to be ready when to give a

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Speaker 5: word of testimony when the Lord presents the opportunity, and

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Speaker 5: the Holy Spirit will will help you. I truly believe

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Speaker 5: that it's and also be in the Word so that

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Speaker 5: you can be prepared well all those things. And then

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Speaker 5: one of the last things you spoke up with a

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Speaker 5: caller about sin, and you took on the debt through death.

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Speaker 5: I mean it had to be that way because it

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Speaker 5: was God's perfect plan. So when you're witnessing to someone,

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Speaker 5: if you get the opportunity to do that, obviously presenting

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Speaker 5: sins as.

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Speaker 4: The gulf that.

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Speaker 5: Separates you God. Sure you want to make that, you

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Speaker 5: want to articulate that. I mean, there's scripture that are

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Speaker 2: To So you're talking, you're talking about how do you

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and not be offensive or I mean, I don't

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Speaker 5: But at the same time, I don't want to you

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's that's fair. I would say that that Matthew

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Speaker 2: can't be a helpful, you know, kind of moving force

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Speaker 2: people know when they're sinning, right, Even even people that

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Speaker 2: know when they're sinning. And the easiest way to know

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Speaker 2: principle of these things. People know when they're sinning. It's

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Speaker 2: really not. There's the old story, maybe you've heard it before,

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Speaker 2: be experts on counterfeit money because there's too many techniques

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Speaker 2: enough real money passes through your fingers that you'll know

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Speaker 2: wanting to point out people's sins. Well, really, if you're

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Speaker 2: and God will convict them and move them. Christian depth

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Speaker 2: to sit there and point out everybody's sin really puts

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Speaker 2: them in a bad situation and only one to fall

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Speaker 2: into that category of hypocrite. All right, So faith and

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Speaker 2: sharing it. When sharing your faith, it's very easy to

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Speaker 2: get into that mindset of I'm a have and you're

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Speaker 2: when you think about it, think about a restaurant or

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Speaker 2: have something that you need. There's kind of a way

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Speaker 2: of preparing it. As real foodies and chefs often say,

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Speaker 2: certain ways to woo somebody properly, not trick them, but

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Speaker 2: I think that it's very easy for Christians to just go,

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Speaker 2: That's not how it works. It's the easier way. Oh

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Speaker 2: look at this. I've got the Christian T shirt on,

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Speaker 2: and I've got the what would Jesus Do? Bracelet, and

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Speaker 2: which is really a lousy witness because I don't know,

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Speaker 2: maybe it's me, but everyone driving with that fish on

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Speaker 2: people that don't have the Jesus fish on the back

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Speaker 2: And it's almost a facade. And there's nothing wrong course

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Speaker 2: with Christian T shirts or Christian paraphernalia or anything like that,

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Speaker 2: or wearing a cross. They're not taking away your faith.

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Speaker 2: Your faith is not manifest in all these things, these

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Speaker 2: holy chochkeys. It's manifest in who you are. And people

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Speaker 2: need to see that. It doesn't make you a cop

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Speaker 2: is about professing something before man, and that is by

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Speaker 2: preach to them. It's wonderful. That is the great commission

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Speaker 2: to share your faith, to go and to preach and

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Speaker 2: to teach to the lost. That is God commanded. But

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Speaker 2: the way you do it has to be paramount. You

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Speaker 2: can serve up a wonderful, wonderful gourmet meal on a

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Speaker 2: your tone and your attitude has to be paramount. Clarence,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Jesus Show.

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Speaker 1: Hey, what's going on? I was had a gentleman called

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Speaker 1: in and he asks you about heaven and Hell. My

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Speaker 1: heart to tell him that God doesn't send people. How

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Speaker 1: he gives you the option of worshiping Him for all eternity,

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Speaker 1: And if you don't enjoy worshiping him now, he doesn't

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Speaker 1: expect you to worship him forever. That I quote you

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Speaker 1: right on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a good thumbnail of it.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is my thing. I'll worship because you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm supposed to do, and I don't really enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: I do it because it's what I'm supposed to do.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I'll enjoy it doing it for the

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Speaker 1: rest of the eternity, you know what I mean, how

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Speaker 1: would I go about getting that like a better heart

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Speaker 2: Well, there are there are different types. Worship is something

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Speaker 2: that's often just confused with what you do at church, right,

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Speaker 2: but that's not always it. Worship is being grateful to

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Speaker 2: the New Testament that translate to worship, but they involve

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Speaker 2: all kinds of things, whether it's praise, it's thanksgiving, it's service,

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Speaker 2: And a lot of people forget that service part and

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Speaker 2: in scripture in Romans, you're called to be a living sacrifice.

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Speaker 2: Have you heard that verse before that you're called to

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Speaker 2: be a living sacrifice. Well, that's more of a practical service,

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Speaker 2: doing the things you do. If you do your job

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Speaker 2: it to the glory of God, that is worship of God.

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Speaker 2: So it's not just being that heart of worship in

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Speaker 2: church during a church service. It's about understanding that all

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Speaker 2: things in your life that you enjoy are provided by God.

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Speaker 2: And to be in that constant mindset of appreciation and

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Speaker 2: understanding of where these things come from. That's what true

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Speaker 2: and it's about loving God. It's not about standing on

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Speaker 2: It's it's about finding that place where you recognize that

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Speaker 2: God is everything that's good in your life.

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Speaker 1: Okay, one more thing before you want me on the

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Speaker 1: phone really quick. I appreciate that's that's the perfect answer,

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Speaker 1: the best way that truth think I should share my faith.

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of people say that, oh, you know,

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Speaker 1: your behavior should be the best thing, but I think

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Speaker 1: that's a cop out. I don't know, what do you think.

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Speaker 2: I like the way you put that. We're up against

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Speaker 2: a heartbreak, so hang tight and I'll answer that right

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Speaker 2: when we return. We're talking with Clarence and he unfortunately

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Speaker 2: got disconnected, but he was asking about sharing his faith.

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Speaker 2: And I know that this question comes up from time

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Speaker 2: God came down to speak to Moses in Exodus three, Joshua, jos,

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Speaker 2: Joshua five thirteen through fifteen, Gideon, and Jude six in

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Speaker 2: a similar manner. So that there are such things as

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Speaker 2: a theophany where God takes physical form to connect or

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Speaker 2: somehow to deal with mankind. Obviously that takes place in

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Speaker 2: one sense or one form with me as the Son

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Speaker 2: as well. But the concepts of God walking or doing

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Speaker 2: these things. It says sometimes that God looked upon. It

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Speaker 2: doesn't mean that God has eyes either. This is anthropomorphic

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Speaker 2: language it's applying. It's like saying that a rock just

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Speaker 2: sat there. Well, the rock doesn't just sit there, it

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Speaker 2: doesn't move. Just sitting there implies that it can get

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Speaker 2: up and walk away. There's that type of language in scripture,

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Speaker 2: even when it comes to the Father God. But that

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Speaker 2: doesn't mean that God is human in any way, shape

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Speaker 2: or form. So I know people get confused with those things,

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Speaker 2: but the language is there as part of the narrative

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Speaker 2: to explain things. Now, it doesn't even necessarily state that

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Speaker 2: he was walking through is that they heard in moving through.

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Speaker 2: But there are or theophanies rather that do take place

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Speaker 2: in scripture, and that is one of them. Remember, more

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Speaker 2: importantly than all of this craziness, these simple words, I

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Speaker 2: Am with you

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Speaker 1: Always KFI AM six forty on demand