1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: This is a podcast from WOR Now, the WOR Saturday 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Morning Show. 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 2: Here's Larry Minty, Hello and welcome to Saturday Morning. 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 3: Coming up on today's show, does Republican candidate for Mayor, 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 3: Curtis Leewa have a chance of becoming the next mayor 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 3: of New York now that Mayor Adams has dropped out? 7 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 3: We'll ask him, and we try to help former wr 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 3: News director Joe Bartlett, who has turned on Donald Trump 9 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 3: for some reason. So how is the new Bruce Springsteen movie. 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 3: New York Post entertainment critic Johnny Oleczinski has seen it, 11 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 3: and we'll ask him, and futurist reporter Kevin Sirilli has 12 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 3: fascinating details on how devices made for space exploration are 13 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 3: helping us right here on Earth. But let's start with 14 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 3: Republican candidate for Mayor of New York, Curtis Leewa. Curtis, 15 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 3: this is a good day for you, isn't it? 16 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 4: Oh? 17 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 5: Absolutely? Okay? One two more to go. And we knew 18 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 5: that Eric Adams was one and done it. He was 19 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 5: playing Monty Hall. Let's make the deal, And finally Bob 20 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 5: Barker announced that the price was right for him yesterday 21 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 5: to drop out back. I'm sitting right here on a 22 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 5: park bench on sixty thirty fifth checking my messages, and 23 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,559 Speaker 5: I'm learning all the billionaires who live here. 24 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 4: You can't bribe me. Thirty six days to go. 25 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 5: Let the people decide who's going to be the mayor. 26 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 2: Let me play something for you. 27 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 3: This is a talkback we got when people started getting 28 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 3: the news. 29 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 6: I am so elated that Eric Adams finally came to 30 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 6: his senses and dropped out of this race. Now we 31 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 6: need to consolidate against Soren Mndami. We need Andrew Cmo 32 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 6: to do the same thing. Drop out of this race. 33 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 6: Put your ego aside. We can't let Mondami win this race. 34 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 6: We need Curtis Leewa And I'm a Democrat and I 35 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 6: am pulling for Curtis Leewall. 36 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 4: He could save New York. Want to react to that absolutely. 37 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 5: Remember Crmo had his shot forty points ahead Democratic primary, 38 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 5: mailed it in from the Hamptons with his billionaire supporters. 39 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 4: Got crowns, and he's not even out in the streets. 40 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 5: Larry, I mean, thirty six days left, you got to 41 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 5: be going twenty hours a day, and that's exactly what 42 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 5: I do. And now that Eric Adams is out, there's 43 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 5: only one law in order Kennedy, touch me because Andrew 44 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 5: Crmo and Joran Mondomi share the same values. They're for 45 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 5: no cash bail, They're for raised the age, and we 46 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,119 Speaker 5: just had a report that the juvenile crime has never 47 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 5: been higher. They both want to close Rkers Island. They 48 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 5: both support cop killers. In fact, it was Andrew Cormo's 49 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 5: parole board that release forty six cop killers in just 50 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 5: eight years, and of course Johan Mondomi cheered that on. 51 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 5: So if I'm the only law in order kennidate who 52 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 5: wants to hire seven thousand cops, get the cops actually 53 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 5: patrolling on the moving subway cars, bring back the homeless 54 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 5: unit of the NYPD they used to handle the emotionally 55 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 5: disturbed and the homeless, and more importantly, deal with quality 56 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 5: of life fishers. I'm the only one who can do that. 57 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 5: Clomo can't do that. He caused this crisis with no 58 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 5: cash bail. 59 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing, So it's not just the callers, 60 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 3: it's not just the talkback because they're probably mostly conservative 61 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 3: except that one gentleman that I just played, and they're 62 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 3: probably mostly Republican. Natalie Migliori went out and did her 63 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 3: beat on the street and she talked to New Yorkers. 64 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 3: There were several New Yorkers who said the same thing. 65 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 3: They said that now that Eric Adams has dropped out, 66 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 3: they're looking more seriously at Curtis Sliwa because they believe 67 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 3: crime is the number one issue and they believe that 68 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 3: you can tackle crime in the city. Are you getting 69 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 3: the same reaction on the streets. 70 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 7: Oh? 71 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 4: Absolutely yes. 72 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 5: Today the Third Avenue Festival, I was there for five 73 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 5: hours and that's all people were saying. 74 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 4: I remember that area Bay Ridge has now split fifty 75 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 4: to fifty. 76 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 5: There are a lot of Zorin East's there now it's 77 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 5: not an all read area, it's a purple area. 78 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 4: So I'd love to go to the Zoron areas. 79 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 5: Where he beat Clomo convincingly in the primary and do 80 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 5: my campaigning because that's where you get a lot of feedback. 81 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 5: And I think even some of the Zorin Easters supporters 82 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 5: the Zoran realized when it comes to crime, boy, that's 83 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 5: his achilles heel. Every time he's asked the question, Like 84 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 5: The New York Times said, You're gonna apologize to the 85 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 5: cops for calling them racists and homophobes. He said, I 86 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 5: would hasn't done it since, and yet every day he's 87 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 5: protected by armed NYPD police officers. That is his vulnerability, 88 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 5: that's his achilles heel. Cuomo cannot go at him on 89 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 5: those issues on the debate stage because he's just as 90 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 5: culpable and guilty. Only I can go at it, and 91 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go at that two headed hydra of Cuomo 92 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 5: and Zorhan Mandami. If not for Eric Adams, they wouldn't 93 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 5: have been a zoron Mondomi. If not for Cuomo's no 94 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 5: cash bail, it would be it would be a safe for. 95 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 4: New York State and safe for New York City, I'll 96 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 4: tell you what. 97 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 2: We also got to talk back saying that Steven A. 98 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 3: Smith was on Good Morning America this morning calling for 99 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 3: you to drop out of the race. 100 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 2: Is there any shot of that at happening at all? 101 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 4: Hey, Stephen A. Smith is afraid to have me on 102 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 4: his show. 103 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,799 Speaker 5: You know he's a Cuomo sexual, totally tied into Culomo. 104 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 4: Why doesn't he have me on his show? Cause Stephen A. 105 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 5: Smith should stick to sports, you know nothing about the politics, 106 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 5: stick with ESPN, or invite Curtis sliwa into the bullpen 107 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,119 Speaker 5: and watch me just run circles around. 108 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 4: Stephen A. Smith. 109 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 3: I was going to ask you about preparing for debates, 110 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 3: but your whole life has been about preparing for debates. 111 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 3: It is going to be interesting, It's going to be important, 112 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 3: probably more important now than. 113 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 2: It has ever been. What do you expect? It sounds 114 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 2: to me. 115 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 3: It seems to me that Cuomo and Mom Donnie are 116 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 3: going to go after each other. Are you going to 117 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 3: go after both of them or just Mom Donnie. 118 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 5: Well, to be honest with you, Larry, if they do that, 119 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 5: if they get to be like kids in a schoolyard, 120 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 5: I take the high road. I talk about who I 121 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 5: am and what I've done and what my policies will 122 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 5: be that are totally different than both of them. Remember 123 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 5: they're the Democrats. They've led to this catastrophe. The Democrats 124 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 5: let the Socialists in and the Socialists took over the 125 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 5: party without even a fight. And Andrew Como was the 126 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 5: governor when he allowed that to occur. Eric Adams was 127 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,799 Speaker 5: so corrupt that he should have been in jail with Obviously, 128 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 5: Bobby Menendez, Go Bob Menendez, and you say to yourself, Larry. 129 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 4: If you want to blame anybody. 130 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 5: For this catastrophe, blame the Democratic Party. I represent patriotism. 131 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 5: I represent making sure that the kids get an education. 132 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 5: With a forty one billion dollar bloated budget, where two 133 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 5: thirds of the fourth gradest can't even read, write, or 134 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:57,799 Speaker 5: do arithmetic at grade level. 135 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 4: This has got to stop, Larry. Democrats had their chance. 136 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 5: They destroy the state, They're apt to destroy the city, 137 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 5: and I'm. 138 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 4: The only thing stopping them from doing that. 139 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: Well, I can tell your pump do You're more excited 140 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 2: than you have been in a long time. And I 141 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 2: know that our listeners are pumped as well. They'd love 142 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: to help. How can they help? 143 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 5: All they need to do is go to sliwa for 144 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 5: NYC dot com that sliwa f o r NYC dot com. 145 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 5: I promise all your faithful listeners, I will never ever 146 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 5: uh end up dropping out the fact of the words 147 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 5: of the Great John Paul Jones, father of our US Navy. 148 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 5: On this date, thirty six days out thirty six nights, Larry, 149 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 5: I have just begun to fight fight fight fight. 150 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 2: Ah yeah, quoted Donald Trump there at the end, too. 151 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 3: Nice job. Curtis Leewa, the now re energize. Curtis leewa 152 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 3: Republican candidate for New York City mayor. Good luck, Curtis. 153 00:07:58,720 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 3: I hope to talk to you again soon. 154 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm looking for the billionaires trying to bribe me. 155 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 3: Larry Curtis Leew, a Republican candidate for a New York 156 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 3: City mayor. Up next, former WR News director Joe Bartlett, 157 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:18,239 Speaker 3: who is now retired in South Carolina and somehow got 158 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 3: inflicted with Trump derangement syndrome. 159 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 2: Down there, Joe's up next. 160 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: Here again is Larry Minty with the WR Saturday Morning show. 161 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 3: Joe Bartlett, former WR News director, used to host this show. 162 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 3: Now he's retired and living in South Carolina, and somehow 163 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 3: he left a blue state and became anti Trump in 164 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 3: a red state. Here's Joe, Joe Bartlett, how's retirement going? 165 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: Uh? 166 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 7: Couldn't be better? And I should have done it sooner, 167 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 7: But you know, you billboarded me as as more Trump 168 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 7: hate and I don't think. I don't want I don't 169 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 7: like the hate. But anyway, I saw the headline the 170 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 7: other day. It was interesting. I was reading the stories 171 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 7: and it talked about one battle after another, and I 172 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 7: said gosh, that's got to be a story about Trump presidency. 173 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 2: Well, he's infected. He just can't let it go. 174 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 3: He sees the title of a movie and it's mad 175 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 3: and he thinks, oh, that's got to be about Donald Trump. 176 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 2: What happened to you? 177 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 7: Well, you know, it turned into it was. Yes, it 178 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 7: was a movie with Leonardo DiCaprio, and I said, well, 179 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 7: I said, I gotta go see this. Anyway. It's a 180 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 7: very interesting movie. I don't think you'll like it, but 181 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 7: it's it shows the dangers of extremism on both the 182 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 7: left and the right and what can happen. But the 183 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 7: premise here is it shows the government crackdown on migrants 184 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 7: being used as a NAIs to create an authoritarian state 185 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 7: in the United States. This is not it really is 186 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 7: not Trump bashing because this was written. This is a 187 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 7: story that was written long ago, I guess during the 188 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 7: Reagan presidency. So this has nothing to do with Donald Trump. 189 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 7: It's going to be used for Trump bashing perhaps, but 190 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 7: when you see it, you basically you feel sorry for 191 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 7: both combatants, both the left and the right. It's a 192 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 7: very well done movie, tremendous acting, but it's probably going 193 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 7: to get caught up in this political mailstrem that we 194 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 7: have to deal with. 195 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 3: Well, of course it's going to get caught up. And 196 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 3: the reason it got a green light is because of 197 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 3: Donald Trump. If it was if it was written during 198 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 3: the Reagan administration and they couldn't get it made, why 199 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 3: do you think it's being made right now? 200 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 2: That's that's the reason. 201 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 3: Although I'm looking as you're talking, I looked on Rotten Tomatoes. 202 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 3: Ninety six percent of the reviews are positive, and eighty 203 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 3: eighty five percent of the people that went to see 204 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 3: it also gave it a positive writing. So it sounds 205 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 3: like the movies. The movie itself is great, even if 206 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 3: you don't like what it's about. 207 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 7: Well, I think you can feel both sides, both the 208 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 7: people who are protesting against what the government's doing and 209 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 7: for the people that have to do what the government 210 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 7: wants him to do. It's just a great movie. Make 211 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 7: your own decision. But anyway, on this hatred thing, I 212 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 7: was watching the Charlie Kirk funeral and I saw that 213 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 7: moment when Erica Kirk spoke and true to her Christian faith, 214 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 7: she forgave her husband's killer. Right. Powerful moment, wasn't it? Yes, 215 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 7: absolutely Trump, though, spoiled it when he you know, there 216 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 7: was a moment there where, you know what, maybe we 217 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 7: can calm down, Maybe we don't have to hate each other, 218 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 7: maybe we don't have to keep shooting at other and 219 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 7: kill people that we disagree with. But then Trump comes 220 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 7: along and says, sorry, Erica, I hate my opponent. Larry, 221 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 7: tell me what you thought of that. 222 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 3: I thought he was making a confession at the time. 223 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 3: I thought it was not him. I do I think 224 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 3: that he said no. I think he was being honest, 225 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 3: and he was saying, no, I hate my opponents, and 226 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 3: and it was it was as you're right, it was 227 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 3: an odd moment. I don't think that's why he ruined it. 228 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 3: I agree with you that he should have gone before Erica. 229 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 3: He should have gone before her and then come out 230 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 3: and given her a big hug and stood there that 231 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 3: Gould had the fireworks go off, and then it could 232 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 3: have had a really big moment at the end with 233 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 3: the two of them on stage together. I thought that 234 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 3: that was programmed poorly, but I didn't take exactly what. 235 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 2: You took away from it. 236 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 3: I thought that he was being honest, and it was 237 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 3: almost as if he was saying I'm sorry. I can't 238 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 3: feel the way you do. I can't forgive. And I 239 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 3: think it was honest. I thought it was truthful, but 240 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 3: you took it as of course being something horrible. 241 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 7: Well, if it's an apology, if he you know, that's 242 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 7: followed up by the indictment of Komy, and you know 243 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 7: this targeting of Letitia James and everybody that caused him harm. 244 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 7: That's not good, that's not that's not forgiven. Hold On, 245 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 7: let's not have the country. 246 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 2: Move on. 247 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 3: Let's separate Komy from all that from anybody else that 248 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 3: you're talking about. What Komi did was he lied? Yeah, 249 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 3: he lied. He lied to make this happen. He was 250 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 3: one of the ring leaders of a coup against this country. 251 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 3: And so for I don't care what happens to him. 252 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 3: There's no forgiveness for him. If this is how you 253 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 3: get him, this is how you get him. I made 254 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 3: the analogy the other day. It's like when they went 255 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 3: after Capone with tax evasion. I don't care how you 256 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 3: get him, get him, because he deserves to be punished. 257 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 7: I think again, I'm going back to the hate thing. 258 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 7: And you say I hate Trump, but I really don't 259 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 7: hate Trump, and I didn't turn on him. I think 260 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 7: he turned on me. We're just living in this period 261 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 7: of hate and Trump is not helping. You know, we've 262 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 7: had five mass shootings here, what in the last day 263 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 7: or two. Well, no, it's not Look it's not Trump. 264 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 2: In the same sentence, I'm sure I am. 265 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 7: Saying he is not help being to calm things because 266 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 7: what happened, what's happening with him is when you did 267 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 7: if he disagreed, If you disagree with him, you are 268 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 7: an enemy, you're an opponent, you're an extremist. That kind 269 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 7: of language is not helpful. I mean, it's not helpful 270 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 7: when the president says I hate my opponents, I want 271 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 7: to destroy my opponents, and it's not getting us to 272 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 7: a better place. It's dividing us. We can't even have 273 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 7: a golf tournament without this hatred coming through. 274 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 3: I will point out that you just said I'm not 275 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 3: blaming Trump, and then you blame Trump. 276 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 7: Well, look, in terms of blame, he's the president of 277 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 7: the United States. He is the person who should be 278 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 7: trying to keep this country together, not do these things 279 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 7: that just create a bigger divide. 280 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 3: Every single president, even though they're not honest about it, 281 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 3: does the exact same thing. You don't think when Biden 282 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 3: and his Justice Department went after Donald Trump, that wasn't 283 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 3: causing division. You don't think that was awful just because 284 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 3: he said it nicely. I think I think at least 285 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 3: he's being honest with HOWE feels. 286 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 4: Well. 287 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 7: I don't think we're going to a better spot with this. 288 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 3: Well, it seems like the country is better off. Let's uh, 289 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 3: we'll talk about continue the conversation next week. Always appreciated 290 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 3: that was Ah, that was fun. I get to I 291 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 3: get the tangle with somebody. That's really fun. Thanks listening, 292 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 3: I will no, it sounds like it's really good. Former 293 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 3: wo R News director Joe Bartlett. Is there alien life 294 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 3: out there? And if so, what can we learn from them? 295 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 3: Futurist reporter Kevin Siilli talks about that. Are AI actors 296 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 3: in Hollywood movies inevitable? We'll ask New York Posts Johnny 297 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 3: Olegzinski coming up on Saturday Morning. 298 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: Now, more of the wo R Saturday Morning Show and 299 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: Larry Minte welcome back. 300 00:15:56,400 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 3: The US government now calls UFOs UAPs, So why the change? 301 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 3: Well for that, we go to futurist reporter Kevin Siilli 302 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 3: He's now host of iHeartMedia's new daily podcast, Hello Future 303 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 3: with Kevin Sirelli. A new podcast is designed to make big, 304 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 3: forward looking topics fast, smart and accessible to mainstream audiences. 305 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 3: You mean, so I'll even understand what you're talking about. 306 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 8: Yeah, well, thank you Larry for that. That's the goal. 307 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 8: That's the goal. But it's been so much fun. We've 308 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 8: just done our first week and everyone, thank you to 309 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 8: iHeart and everyone. It's been so much fun working with 310 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 8: iHeart and you know, we tackle really big issues like 311 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 8: colonizing Mars, going to the mood, but also why you 312 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 8: should care about it. One of my favorite episodes this 313 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 8: week was with the CEO. He's thirty seven years old 314 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 8: of this startup company that creates civilization starter kits, and 315 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 8: what it is is a data center in a box. 316 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 8: And he's explaining to me that and I'm sitting there like, 317 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 8: I don't even know how to do this interview. This 318 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 8: is so complicated. He's one of those geniuses and he's 319 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 8: telling me that he's putting this. They can put them 320 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 8: on Mars or the Moon and immediately it'll create electricity 321 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 8: and water, and it could it could self replicate, like 322 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 8: in transformers to allow for when the robots come and 323 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 8: then eventually humans. And I'm thinking, Okay, that's really cool, 324 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 8: but why should I care about this on planet Earth? 325 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 8: And he goes, well, don't you think that that could 326 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 8: be useful in rural parts of America where they don't 327 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 8: have access to basic technology infrastructure. Don't you think that 328 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 8: after a hurricane, when the power grid gets wiped out, 329 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 8: that if we put one of these train sized boxes 330 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 8: in a disaster zone, that that could get communications back 331 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 8: on system. Don't you think that in parts of Africa 332 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 8: and underserved communities around the world that this could bring 333 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 8: basic not just technology, but also sewage systems and economic 334 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 8: incentive to these parts of the world. And I'm like, yeah, no, 335 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 8: that's not a bad idea way what we should do? 336 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, in third world countries, I can see them going 337 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,479 Speaker 3: into Africa or down into South America and bringing this 338 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 3: Is this available what he's talking about? Is it available now? 339 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 8: Yeah, they're already testing it. And that's the whole point 340 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 8: of the show. And then the coolest part of the interview. 341 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 8: I don't know if you've ever seen Larry the Martian 342 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 8: or read the book by Andy Wheer, Sure it's so good. 343 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 8: It's not as good as Interstellar, which I know is 344 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,719 Speaker 8: a debate in the sci fi community, but I'm an 345 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 8: Interstellar geek. But with Matthew McConaughey. But in The Martian, 346 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 8: Matt Damon essentially poops and grows a plant on Mars 347 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 8: and I asked him, well, how are you going to 348 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 8: power this? And he goes poop and I go, I'm sorry, 349 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 8: what and he's like yeah, He's like, well, we don't. 350 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 8: It's all you can have a battery on Mars or 351 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 8: you know, in other parts of the world. But that's 352 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 8: how they're thinking. It's science fiction come to life, and 353 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 8: it's crazy. It's a crazy world we live in. But hey, 354 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:55,959 Speaker 8: at least they're thinking about that. Probably they could get 355 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 8: a budget deal in Washington's I'll. 356 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 3: Tell you why poop is an untapped natural reason or 357 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 3: says we found out in The Martian. That was a 358 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 3: That was a great story. But man, a, what a 359 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 3: brilliant podcast. And you're talking to the smartest people in 360 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 3: the country about what's coming next, which explains why you're. 361 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 2: A futurist reporter. I kind of get it. Now, let's 362 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 2: talk about so much I can imagine that. Good. 363 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 3: Good for you and congratulations. I hate that they changed 364 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 3: UFO to UAP. Can you explain to me why they 365 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 3: did that exactly? 366 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 8: Yeah, So a UFO is an unidentified flying object obviously, 367 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 8: but a UAP essentially is an unidentified aerial phenomenon. And 368 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 8: the reason is because technology it also doesn't necessarily have 369 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,479 Speaker 8: to be flying. It could be you know, in the 370 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 8: ocean and whatnot. It just kind of broadens the category, 371 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 8: so to speak. But there's been there's been a hearing 372 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 8: on Capitol Hill. There's been several and the most recent one, 373 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,479 Speaker 8: which is a couple of weeks ago. And you know, 374 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 8: the big question that I get about UAPs and UFOs 375 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 8: is why is the government you know, keeping it a 376 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 8: secret from us and whatnot? And there's many ways to 377 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 8: answer this question. But the first is, it's not necessarily 378 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 8: the Pentagon and CIA and NASA. It's not necessarily them 379 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 8: that they're covering it up. It also could be that 380 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 8: private industry or private companies have access to this technology 381 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 8: and they're not required to share it with anyone necessarily. 382 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 8: So the laws are very outdated and not thinking as 383 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 8: big as the universe is. Secondly, if there is alien 384 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 8: technology that is discovered. The government wouldn't necessarily want to 385 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 8: declassify it if they don't have their arms around it 386 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 8: before a bad actor does, like the Chinese Communist Party, 387 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 8: Russia or Iran. And then lastly, they might not know 388 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 8: what it is. And so I think the biggest question 389 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 8: right now is just we are living through what I believe, Larry, 390 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 8: is the start of the next industrial revolution, the Galileo 391 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 8: and I interview the head of the Galileo Project from Harvard, 392 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 8: whose whole mission is to look for extraterrestrial life in 393 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:13,959 Speaker 8: the universe. But the Galileo discoveries of of you know, 394 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 8: centuries ago, our telescopes are finding them, you know, by 395 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 8: the tenfold, and so you know, I think that policymakers 396 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 8: don't really even know where to begin asking questions about 397 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 8: any of this. And that's why I think it's been 398 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 8: so stale, quite frankly, in this debate. The space industry 399 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 8: alone is not just NASSA anymore. It's going to be 400 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 8: a one trillion dollar industry, one trillion dollars by the 401 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 8: year twenty thirty two, which is larger than the entire 402 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 8: gaming industry in America. 403 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 3: Do you believe that there is alien intelligence, and do 404 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 3: you believe that alien intelligence has visited us? 405 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 8: It's the question is is yes? The answer is yes. 406 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 7: But that's the boat. 407 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 8: The boat questions do I believe that they've visited us? 408 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 8: That I don't have enough proof of. But in terms 409 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 8: of but in terms of do I believe in life 410 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 8: elsewhere in the galaxy or in other dimensions? Absolutely? And 411 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 8: I by the way, it's not just if there's one, 412 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 8: you know, I interviewed Leonard David who is. He's like 413 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 8: the Walter cronkind of space News. He's awesome, he's been 414 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 8: covering space for fifty years. He goes, the better question, Kevin, 415 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 8: is how many civilizations are there in the universe? How 416 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 8: many are there? Because they could be all at different stages. 417 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 8: You could have cavemen on one planet, and then you 418 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 8: know civilizations that are, you know, thousands of years ahead 419 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 8: of us. So it's a really complicated question. But the 420 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 8: bottom line is they just found proof of potential biosignatures 421 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 8: of life on Mars. A lot of people think the 422 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 8: Solar System is only nine planets in a couple of moons. 423 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 8: There's more than there's millions of objects in our Solar system. Alone. 424 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 8: We only have a less than a dozen satellites around 425 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 8: the movie. We have ten thousand round planet Earth, and 426 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 8: we only have like eight or twelve around Mars and 427 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 8: like one around Europa. So there's so much we don't 428 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 8: know about our own place in our solar system, let 429 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 8: alone in the galaxy, let alone. 430 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 2: In the universe. 431 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 3: Well, I can't wait to talk to you next week. 432 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 3: I'm definitely going to listen to your podcast. You sold 433 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 3: it very well just now. Kevin Siilli is the host 434 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 3: of Iheart's new daily podcast, Hello Future with Kevin Sirelli. 435 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 3: That new podcast is designed to make big, forward looking 436 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 3: topics fast, smart and accessible, like you just heard. Thanks 437 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 3: a lot, Kevin, Talk to you again next week. 438 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 8: Thank you, Larry, Thank you my friends. 439 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 3: Coming up next on Saturday morning, what is the latest 440 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 3: on the Keith Urban and Nicole Kidman breakup? We'll ask 441 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:52,719 Speaker 3: New York Post entertainment critic Johnny Olegzinski. That's coming up 442 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 3: on Saturday morning. 443 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: Here's Larry Minti with more of the WOOR Saturday Morning Show. 444 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 2: Welcome Back. 445 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 3: Reviews are now coming out on new Bruce Springsteen movie. 446 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 3: New York Post Entertainment critic Johnny Oldleazinski has seen it, 447 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 3: so what did he think? Here's the answer. I'm almost 448 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 3: afraid to ask you. I want the Bruce Springsteen movie 449 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 3: to be good so much I'm afraid to ask you 450 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 3: what you thought of it? 451 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 2: It is good? Oh good, it is good. 452 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 4: I saw. 453 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 9: I was at the New York Film Festival premiere the 454 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 9: other night. Bruce was there. Jeremy Allen White, who plays 455 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 9: and was there. Bruce did an impromptu performance at the end, 456 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 9: which was pretty cool. 457 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 2: I love Bruce. What did he say? 458 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 9: He's saying a promised land. 459 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 2: Wow. 460 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 9: So it was very very cool, and in my review 461 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 9: I get so. I gave it three stars, and there 462 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 9: was a lot of comparing it to a complete unknown, 463 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 9: the Bob Dylan movie, which I also I love that 464 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 9: ever slow slightly more. This was three stars. 465 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 4: That was three and a half. 466 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 2: Bruce. 467 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 9: I think is harder because the image of Bruce is 468 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 9: so much in our brains, especially young Bruce, because he 469 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 9: was plastered all over his albums, whereas Timothy Shallow I 470 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 9: had some creative leeway with Bob Dylan. I think the 471 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 9: other thing, And plenty of listeners might disagree with this. 472 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 9: I think Bruce, in his twenties and thirties, had the 473 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 9: most extraordinary voice. And some people don't think Bruce is 474 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 9: a great singer. I think he is a fantastic singer. 475 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 9: Jeremy Allen White, it gives it from the Bear gives 476 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 9: a great acting performance, really moving because this is about 477 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 9: Bruce's struggles with depression and his memories of his dad 478 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 9: while writing Nebraska. The movie is all about him almost 479 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:32,479 Speaker 9: breaking down while writing Nebraska. Jeremial the Bear not a singer, 480 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 9: Oh no, no, no. 481 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 2: No no. 482 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 9: And he did his own singing like like him. Because 483 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 9: now if you want to win the Oscar, if you 484 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 9: want to get there, you have to do your own singing. 485 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 9: You have to do all those interviews with us say 486 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 9: oh how long did you practice? And oh you know 487 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 9: it's not atrocious. But when Bruce does a growl, it's exciting. 488 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 9: When Jeremial and White does a growl, go you know, 489 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 9: do you want me to get you a cough drop? 490 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 9: It just sounds like his vocal cores are having a 491 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 9: rough But I do like he is good. The movie 492 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 9: is good, especially for Springsteen fans like me. 493 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 2: You'll like, do they limit the singing? How could they? 494 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 9: Isn't It isn't like the Bohemian Rhapsody sort of movie 495 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 9: where it's all these concerts. It's really more about his 496 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 9: emotional experiences. And it's by the way, it's not i 497 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 9: Itt Bruce was born and all the way to present day. 498 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 9: It's just about nineteen eighty two. 499 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 3: We'll have to bring up Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban 500 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 3: next time, unless you have a quick comment. 501 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 9: I read that Nicole Kidman partly split apart because she's 502 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 9: been doing so many sex scenes recently. No really, she's 503 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 9: been doing seings forever. She's been stripping since the beginning 504 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 9: of her career. 505 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 3: AI certainly is causing a ruckus out in Hollywood right 506 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 3: now because Tillie Norwood is not non existent. She is 507 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 3: completely AI. But you she could fool anybody. I mean, 508 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 3: when you look at her real and she has a reel, 509 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 3: she looks like a human being. And I'm sure that 510 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 3: Hollywood has to be freaked out about this. 511 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 9: Well they are, and they can't stop talking about it. 512 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 9: It brings back memories of the strike and when they 513 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,959 Speaker 9: you know, the sag after strike, when they were freaking 514 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 9: out over being replaced by AI. That was a big 515 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 9: reason for that strike. And now now this woman that's 516 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 9: created Tilly Norwood, what a name? The woman who created 517 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 9: Tilly is saying, oh, everyone's racing to sign Tilly, And 518 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 9: I don't fully believe that. There's a lot of open 519 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 9: questions about who this person is. She says she was 520 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 9: an actress that wanted to create an actress, or it's 521 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 9: her art project or whatever. But yeah, it spooked a 522 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 9: lot of people. I still until we really see these 523 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 9: things in action, like let let's do a whole awful 524 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 9: Lord of the Rings movie starring Tilly Norwood and her 525 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 9: AI friends, and you know, they start kind of you know, 526 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 9: that uncanny valley thing where you can just slightly tell 527 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 9: they're not real or we won't know, or or will say, wow, 528 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 9: that's the best actress I've ever seen. Then then we'll 529 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 9: know if what the real threat of this is. But 530 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 9: for now, I look at uh do you ever read? 531 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 9: Sometimes cheap websites will do articles that are clearly written 532 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 9: in AI, and they're riddled with factual errors and the 533 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 9: sentences are a little off. I don't think the technology 534 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 9: is there yet. 535 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 3: Well, it looks pretty good. I mean it's a short 536 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 3: real it looks pretty good. And if something goes wrong, 537 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 3: you can always fix it. I mean, you know, doing 538 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 3: retakes is free. But I can't imagine the ramifications of that. Look, 539 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 3: she's going to get apart, there's no question in my mind, 540 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 3: because everybody's going to see it. Everybody's going to go 541 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 3: watch it. And so I just think that Hollywood would 542 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 3: love this. The people that run Hollywood, not the people 543 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 3: that have the jobs, the people that run Hollywood. To 544 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 3: be able to have actors and actresses they can control, 545 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 3: that's a dream come true. 546 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 9: Hollywood loves not spending money. That's one of their favorite 547 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 9: things to do, or money extremely unwisely. Where you see 548 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 9: a three hundred million dollar movie and it looks like, 549 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 9: you know, a buck fifty, you're probably right. And I 550 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 9: don't know how SAGAFTRA could convince what they could put 551 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 9: in a contract to say, you can't do this right now, 552 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 9: it's in their contract. 553 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 7: I believe you. 554 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 9: You can't replicate Brad Pitt without asking for his consent 555 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 9: and compensating him fairly. And of course obviously that is 556 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 9: what they should do, but they've sort of suggested bargain it. 557 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 9: If you use an AI actor, then you have to pay, 558 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 9: you know, have this many live actors. I think it's 559 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 9: a whole giant mess. 560 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 3: Speaking of giant messes, how did you like Keeves Waiting 561 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 3: for Goodot? 562 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 9: That a very good segue, incredible taking the words right 563 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 9: out of my mouth. Oh oh so he and look 564 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 9: I like I like the John Wick movies. I like 565 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 9: the Bill and Ted movies. I like half have one 566 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 9: of one quarter of the Matrix movies. So I like 567 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 9: Keanu Reeves. I like what he can do on camera. Uh, 568 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 9: Beckett is not john Wick. John Wick barely talks and 569 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:02,479 Speaker 9: that and that is very well suited to Keanu Reeves speaking, kicking, 570 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 9: karate chopping, glaring at the camera. That's great, but that's 571 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 9: a skill to make that interesting as a skill. Uh, 572 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 9: in good Doough is just so far out of his league. Weirdly, 573 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 9: you know who is better in Waiting for Goodough is 574 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 9: Alex Winter, who was his opposite in Bill and Ted. 575 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 9: I this is uh in Final Jeopardy. I don't know, 576 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 9: I really they're kind of they're like Beavis and Buttead. 577 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 9: I often forget which was which. But Alex Winter, who's 578 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 9: become a documentary filmmaker in recent years. Weirdly, he is 579 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 9: pretty good. He is good and maybe he is not 580 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 9: burdened by our expectations since we don't see him as 581 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 9: well just kind of oh, look at this discovery almost 582 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 9: But with Keanu Reeves, I just it's it's like watching 583 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 9: someone you know that phrase when he said, oh, I'd 584 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 9: paid watch you read the phone book. The audience paid 585 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 9: to watch him read the phone book, and it just 586 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 9: was someone reading the phone book. I'm afraid six hundred 587 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 9: and seventy dollars top ticket by oh. 588 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 2: Man, that's ridiculous. Yeah, so I'm not gonna say it. 589 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 2: I don't care, no norderful, nor should you. Hey, look, 590 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 2: by the way, just so you know, Alex Winter was Bill. 591 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 8: Oh, just so we all know now, because you know 592 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 8: everybody was going to be thinking about this all day. 593 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna eat away with me. Thank god, 594 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 2: Thank god you told me that. 595 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 3: New York Post Entertainment critic Johnny Oleczinski. That wraps up 596 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 3: Saturday Morning for this week. Thanks so much for listening, 597 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 3: and thanks to executive producer Natalie Vaka and producer Peter 598 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 3: Ayerlano for putting this show together every week. I'll be 599 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 3: back Monday morning from six to ten for mentye in 600 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 3: the morning. 601 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 2: Hope you join us. 602 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: This has been a podcast from woor