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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Let's dive right into it.

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Speaker 2: We get them each and every Thursday now through the

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Speaker 2: conclusion of the college basketball season. It's our good friend

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Speaker 2: from Bearcat Journal dot Com, Keegan Nickoson joining us right now.

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Speaker 3: Hi Keegan, Hey Tony, how are you?

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Speaker 2: Keegan? I'm great. I thought I would throw some rapid

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Speaker 2: fire questions at you just to kind of get you

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Speaker 2: ready to go for today's segment.

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Speaker 3: Would you like to do that? Huh, I would love

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Speaker 3: to do that.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go. Rapid fire question number one.

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Speaker 2: Do you believe Brendan Sorosby's really getting offers north of

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Speaker 2: four million dollars in the portal?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Keing and Nickoson.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Gisel James was spotted on the jumbo Tron on Monday

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Speaker 2: at the UC game against Tarleton. Is Giggsel James gonna

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Speaker 2: play for the Bearcats this year?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: Keg and nickoson Bearcat Journal dot com. Is in year

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Speaker 2: five of the shootout for Wes Miller is tomorrow night?

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Speaker 2: I must win for West Miller. Yes, Keing and nickoson

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Speaker 2: do you have a educated guest on which bowl game

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Speaker 2: the Bearcats will be playing in?

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Speaker 5: Educated?

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Speaker 4: I don't really educated in me don't really go together

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Speaker 4: very well.

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Speaker 3: What do you know that we don't?

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Speaker 5: Kegan?

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Speaker 3: What do you know?

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Speaker 2: I know, you guys get inside stuff at the barricat Journal.

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Speaker 2: Brendle's probably already got Brendel's already got Brendle's already got

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Speaker 2: a spot booked for you, and probably Springer. I know,

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Speaker 2: So where's it at?

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Let's start on.

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Speaker 2: The football side officially now signing day yesterday, and your best, um,

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Speaker 2: let's say, your best summary of the class that you

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Speaker 2: see in Scott Saderfield brought in yesterday would be what.

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Speaker 4: Best summary was more successful than the twenty.

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Speaker 3: Twenty five class. Okay?

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Speaker 4: I say that mainly because they were able to hold

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Speaker 4: on to some guys that were getting recruited by SEC

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Speaker 4: schools and Big ten schools like Solomon Mathis, there's a corner,

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Speaker 4: Markel Taylor and then Dadrian Waller. They were getting offers

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Speaker 4: from schools like Georgia, Florida, Mississippi State, and they were

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Speaker 4: some of them were taking visits.

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Speaker 3: Others were completely shutting down.

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Speaker 4: Their recruitment and staying fully committed to Cincinnati. But they

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Speaker 4: were able to hold on to them, and especially when

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Speaker 4: you think about their high rated or brute Lance Dawson,

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Speaker 4: who was offered pretty crazy money by West Virginia and

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Speaker 4: decided to stay with Cincinnati, And it even got to

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Speaker 4: the point where he was changing his Instagram profile picture

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Speaker 4: to a West.

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Speaker 3: Virginia commitment graphic.

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Speaker 4: So like he was basically he had told West Virginia

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Speaker 4: staff he's coming, and then Cincinnati goes and changes that

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Speaker 4: and then rewrites the narrative that you know, Lance Daalson

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Speaker 4: is going to be a Bearcat and then they're able

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Speaker 4: to sign him late yesterday afternoon.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it was.

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Speaker 5: It was a successful class.

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Speaker 3: Obviously not what.

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Speaker 5: You want to see from a ratings perspective, but.

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Speaker 4: Zach Grant isn't the guy that's gonna look at that

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Speaker 4: judge what the class is based off.

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Speaker 5: That, so I think it was a good class.

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Speaker 2: Just recently we saw the Big Twelve Awards come down.

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Speaker 2: Tommy Walker, Jeff Codwhill, Jalen Hunt, Antwine Peak Junior Honorable Mention,

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Speaker 2: Tengistall Cotton, Allen Sowersby, First Team Jake Golde. When you

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Speaker 2: see all these players earning all Big Twelve honors, does

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Speaker 2: it change in all your view on how the season

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it should have been better.

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Speaker 4: When you have that many guys on the first, second,

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Speaker 3: Because that told me you have the talent to do it.

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Speaker 4: The surprise was that Evan Pryor didn't get any real nomination.

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Speaker 4: I think he had a really really good year and

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Speaker 4: when you look at that list, those are a lot

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Speaker 4: of names that are also not going to be back

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Speaker 4: know what could happen with the portal.

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Speaker 3: So they've got a tall task ahead of.

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Speaker 4: Them to put together a Anton roster given all the

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Speaker 4: all the very honored guys that are not.

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Speaker 3: Going to be here. So I'm looking forward to seeing

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Speaker 3: what they can do with that.

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Speaker 2: Knowing now what it's like in college football bowl games,

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Speaker 2: and I know we don't know where the Bearcats are going,

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Speaker 2: but I would assume, you know, I see that that

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Speaker 2: they got Senior Day and Senior Bowl invites. I don't

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Speaker 2: playing in a bowl game. So how do you view

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Speaker 2: where you're covering, Now, what do you look for? I

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Speaker 2: know you get extra bowl game practices, which is vital

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Speaker 2: to coaches, But does this now just become a showcase

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Speaker 2: for younger players on this team to show what they

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think a big thing you can do is

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Speaker 4: kind of decide what you're going to do in the

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Speaker 4: do in the bowl game, Like say say Maney, Kobe

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Speaker 4: bring in three linebackers because we're losing Checked England, Jake Golde.

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Speaker 4: The tight end position is interesting to me. You're losing

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Speaker 4: I believe that they're just going to go forward with

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Speaker 4: But I think it's a it's a look at what

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Speaker 3: With the team to come back.

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Speaker 5: So I don't put too much stock.

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Speaker 4: In it, Like if they go out and lose, that

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Speaker 3: If they go out and win. It's you know, it's

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Speaker 4: But I don't put too much stock into these games,

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Speaker 2: Is that still though, Like, does it change anything because

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Speaker 2: they lost the last four in a row and trying

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Speaker 2: season or are you fully separating.

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Speaker 3: The two.

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 4: I mean, in my mind, I think after the BYU lost,

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Speaker 4: like I think that they put all their eggs in

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Speaker 5: To get in.

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Speaker 4: But I just think it doesn't really change it for me.

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Speaker 5: There's just too many factors.

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Speaker 4: You can look at the four consecutive losses and say

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Speaker 4: that was your best team on the field for those

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Speaker 4: four games, and it was your best effort, and.

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Speaker 5: You guys were supposed to be bought in.

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Speaker 4: But the TCU loss I don't put as much stock

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Speaker 4: into as if you know they were still playing for

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Speaker 4: a lot different. But obviously the four losses down the stretch.

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Speaker 4: You have to find a way to keep your guys

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Speaker 2: Let's switch gears. Tomorrow night is the Crosstown shootout. You

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Speaker 2: and I wonder, like, do you feel now in covering

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Speaker 2: this game, We've had a couple extra days, now you've

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Speaker 2: you've put more into it. Do you feel the buzz

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Speaker 2: a lack of buzz surrounding the shootout still which is

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the biggest buzz being put into the

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Speaker 4: I think there's naturally a lack of buzz just with

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Speaker 4: the new landscape of college basketball.

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Speaker 3: And Wes Miller like mentioned that yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Like, it's not it's not you unique to this rivalry.

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Speaker 4: I would say Duke and you and seeing large part

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Speaker 4: the culture. But for other rivalries, like you don't get

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Speaker 4: the like cultured hatred for the teams, like these guys

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Speaker 4: aren't playing against.

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Speaker 3: Each other four years.

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Speaker 5: In a row, and you know, like it's just not there.

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Speaker 4: So I think I say all that, but then the

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Speaker 4: Since her Harris who's one of the most physical players

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Speaker 4: Gods Tarlotan State. So you never really know what can

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Speaker 4: have happen. Maybe this can be a thing where Wes

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Speaker 4: Miller turns it around and he's here for a long

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Speaker 4: time and Richard Patino has success, because I think that's

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Speaker 4: lack of success each program has had since like twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 4: and that's definitely had an impact on the rivalry losing

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Speaker 4: its luster as the phrase I've heard.

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Speaker 2: I certainly understand too. When you look at this weekend,

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Speaker 2: often it falls on a different time. I think you

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Speaker 2: could venture to say that there's not a lot of

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Speaker 2: I mentioned to you in rapid fire earlier, though, is

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Speaker 5: So you know, I could see the season going one.

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Speaker 3: Of either ways based on the result of this game.

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Speaker 3: To a lot of Cincinnati fans.

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Speaker 2: For just sheer x'es and o's that are going to

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Speaker 2: How do they take care of business?

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Speaker 4: I think you just you really shut down Zager's three

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Speaker 4: You just can't have your best shooters only making like

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Speaker 2: I look at the remaining non conference and I think

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Speaker 4: That, Yeah, absolutely, because I think what you saw last

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Speaker 4: You had had the exhibition blowout win over O Higher State,

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Speaker 4: But that was more like, you know, you're playing.

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Speaker 5: On the road.

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Speaker 4: So I don't blame fans for kind of keeping their

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Speaker 3: Before really buying in.

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Speaker 4: Especially the track record over the past two or three seasons.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, that makes a lot of sense to me.

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Speaker 4: Georgia and Simpson are two just high major teams, and now,

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Speaker 4: as the college basketball season usually goes, everyone's team changes,

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Speaker 2: It should be a great atmosphere, a huge, massive opportunity

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Speaker 2: After the dust settles, we'll have an idea, we'll understand

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Speaker 2: Crosstown shootout. Keegan, what's the easiest way to keep up

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Speaker 2: with all your coverage of the bear Cats going forward?

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Speaker 4: Journal and just posted an article about yesterday's signing day.

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Speaker 4: Press or Zach Rant Scott Satafield had a ton to

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Speaker 4: say about the twenty twenty sixth signing class, So go

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Speaker 2: That awesome Keegan, thanks so much, man. We will catch

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Speaker 2: up next week. Enjoy the shootout, and enjoy the weekend.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Terry, seeing Phoenix re.

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Speaker 2: Seagan nickoson urcat journal dot com. Oh, that would not

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Speaker 2: be great. How about Keigan going to the Blakesnell Lustafa Chom.

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Speaker 3: You get to be better than what he was, would you?

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Speaker 3: What did you just say it would not be great? Phoenix? No?

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Speaker 3: Why not listen?

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Speaker 2: December twenty sixth, That would mean the team flies on

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Speaker 3: It's Christmas mornings. What matters?

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Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, no, no no, we'll dive more.

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Speaker 2: People don't care. Maybe next you get paid to watch football.

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Speaker 2: I care, I care. I know Moagger cares, of course,

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Speaker 3: Not many. You don't even have to work. You just

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Speaker 2: You say, not many have to work on Christ's more

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to get I'm trying to keep you in line.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna apologize for wanting to spend Christmas with

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Speaker 3: Of course, my wife, of course.

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Speaker 2: That's it. Bob Man Jean Nova care well he'll be

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