1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: It's Nightside with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Boston's Knee Radio. 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Kyle, and you in my mind 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: are still you? Still are Kyle Ray? And I am 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: still Dan Ray. Here every Monday through Friday night from 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: eight until midnight for another exciting edition of Nightside. And 6 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 1: this week they will be exciting edishes all that is 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: going on halfway around the world. Rock Brooks taking care 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: of business back at the broadcast Central and beautiful Medford, Massachusetts, 9 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: the new home of w b Z. We moved off 10 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: of soldiers Field Road and getting close to ten years ago, folks, 11 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: we have been in Medford and that's where Rob works 12 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: his magic. He takes your phone calls. After nine o'clock. 13 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: During this hour, we'll be talking with four interesting guests. 14 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: At nine o'clock we'll be talking with Boston College professor 15 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: Ali Banoa is easy. He is a professor who was 16 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: born in Iran, came here and has been teaching in 17 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: America for well five or six decades, and he's a 18 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: great resource. That is at nine o'clock and then at 19 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: ten o'clock a really fascinating well not that doctor Badawazizi 20 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: as not but another fascinating guest, Nick Berg. Nick was 21 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 1: born in Iran in nineteen sixty seven. His dad, who 22 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: was a CIA agent an American, had married an Iranian 23 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: woman and the dad left in nineteen seventy five and 24 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: it took quite an effort. Took over thirty five years 25 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: to finally locate the dad. But the story that is 26 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: interesting is that Nick himself left the country in nineteen 27 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: eighty seven at the age of nineteen, came here and 28 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: joined the US military Special Forces and has served in 29 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: several theaters along the way, the Desert Shield and Desert Storm, 30 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: Bosnian Sierra Leone, a bunch of places, and we're going 31 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: to get his perspective as to what he thinks is 32 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: going on in So we'll be talking a lot about 33 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: around for the balance of the hour, but starting off tonight, 34 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: we're going to take you back to a different era, 35 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: but it's related to the Middle East. My guess is 36 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: Jeff Wise. He's a business executive, accomplished author, two time 37 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: iron Man in outra Marathon, which means the guy has 38 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: to be in shape. He and his brother have co 39 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: authored a book entitled Fighting Back Stan Andrews in the 40 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: Birth of the Israeli Air Force Israel, as I'm sure 41 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: I hope who listens in my program knows, was born 42 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: by the United Nations, created by the United Nations back 43 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: in May of nineteen forty eight, Jeff Weiss, how did 44 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: an American pilot, a World War Two fighter pilot, give 45 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 1: up what I guess you have described as a very 46 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: nice post war life in Los Angeles when Los Angeles 47 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: was really coming of age as a city to go 48 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: fight in Israel's War of Independence. 49 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for having me, Dan. Thanks 50 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 2: so after that UN decision appeared. After that, on May fourteenth, 51 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 2: nineteen forty eight, Israeli independence was declared. In that very day, 52 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 2: Israel was confronted with an invasion across all of its borders, 53 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,679 Speaker 2: and so basically the Israeli military was confronted with the 54 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: need to repel that invasion and essentially to build a 55 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 2: modern military at the same time, including specifically an air force. 56 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 2: And so there were a number of pilots around the world, 57 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 2: including Stan Andrews and New York who was originally from 58 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: New York, who decided to go to Israel and joined 59 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: that air force as it was getting literally off the ground. Basically, 60 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 2: Israel at the beginning of the war, did not have 61 00:03:55,880 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: any fighter planes and had very very few trained pilot 62 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 2: and so essentially is really to bring in the planes 63 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 2: and also to recruit folks to fly them in combat. 64 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: So World War two, Stan, the hero of your book 65 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: Fighting Back, Stan Andrews had served as an American in 66 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: World War Two as a fighter pilot. Now the war's over, 67 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: America is back in business, if you will. He's in 68 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, which was I'm sure a pretty happening place 69 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: in nineteen forty eight. What was he doing in LA 70 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I would assume that he probably could go 71 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: anywhere do anything. You know, in those days, if you 72 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:46,799 Speaker 1: were a veteran of World War Two, indeed a fighter pilot, 73 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: I think you would have had a tough time buying 74 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: drinks or buying a meal for yourself in Los Angeles 75 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: in those days. What sort of a lifestyle was he living. 76 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 2: He did have quite a nice life there. He was 77 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 2: studying at UCLA on the GA bill. He was an 78 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 2: accomplished artist. He was also become in the process of 79 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: becoming a writer. But essentially the anti semitism of that 80 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 2: of the day, and seeing that what was taking place 81 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 2: in the Middle East, that that that the Jews faced 82 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 2: essentially a second Holocaust only three years after the end 83 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 2: of World War Two, and he decided that he needed 84 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 2: to become involved. But no, he had quite a nice life. 85 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 2: There was in a serious relationship that seemed headed toward marriage, 86 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 2: but decided that this was something momentous in history and 87 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 2: he needed to be a part of it. So he 88 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 2: made the decision to go. 89 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 1: So he in effect joined the IDEF was with stand, 90 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: not that he needed to be Jewish to do that. 91 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 1: I have people who I know who have gone and 92 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: joined the IDEF, whom some were Jewish, some weren't. Was 93 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: there a you Was he Jewish or did he just 94 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: realize the the way in which Israel was being attacked, 95 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: someone had to help defend send them. 96 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 2: Well, that's part of what makes Stan's story so fascinating. 97 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 2: He was Jewish, but was a very assimilated Jew, very 98 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 2: I think, alienated from his background. He had changed his 99 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 2: name his last name from Annickstein to Andrews after graduating 100 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: from high school, never had a bar mitzvah, never set 101 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: foot actually in a synagogue in his life. But I 102 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 2: think kind of the anti Semitism of nineteen forties. Really, 103 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 2: I think stirred something within him, and then seeing what 104 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,239 Speaker 2: was going on in the Middle East made him really 105 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 2: feel like he needed to basically stand up for who 106 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 2: he was and to fight. He joined what was at 107 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 2: the time the only fighter squadron in Israeli Air Force 108 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 2: and actually ended up designing the logo as an artist. 109 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 2: And it's a squadron logo that the Israeli Air Force 110 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 2: uses to this day. So it's quite in that sense, 111 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 2: left quite a lasting impression during his time here. 112 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: Give us just the and I don't want you to 113 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: give the book away, of the story away, we wanted 114 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: we want people to read the book again. It's entitled 115 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: Fighting Back Stan Andrews in the Birth at the Israeli 116 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: Air Force. A lot of people these days don't understand, 117 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: you know, how Israel came to be. They don't have 118 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: the context of World War Two. And that's why this book, 119 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure is important. But did he spend the rest 120 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: of his life in Israel or did he come back 121 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: to America? Tell us a little bit without giving away 122 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: any any of the book that you don't want to 123 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: give away. Was he over there for a brief period 124 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: of time or did he stay over there, and I 125 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: would assume he might have ended up in leadership in 126 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: the state of Israel at that time. 127 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: Well, he did rise to a senior position within the 128 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 2: Israeli Air Force. But a bit of a spoiler alert, 129 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 2: he did not. He did not survive the war, had 130 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 2: a great many adventures over here, but but in the 131 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: end did not did not live to see its outcome. 132 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: But about the War of nineteen forty eight. 133 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: Correct, and he was actually a bomber pilot in the Pacific, 134 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 2: he flew B twenty fives. Here in Israel, he served 135 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 2: both in the first fighter squadron, also served in one 136 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 2: of its first bomber squadrons, and in addition to that, 137 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 2: became a liaison officer between the Israeli Air Force and 138 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 2: United Nations Truce Inspectors. So did a great many things, 139 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: and then had a pretty remarkable kind of final chapter 140 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 2: during his pioneer. 141 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: Was he did he ever become an Israeli citizen. I 142 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: assume he wasn't an Israeli citizen before he went over there. 143 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: He went over as an American. 144 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 2: He went over as an American, and then doing that 145 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 2: actually risked his citizenship at the time. That was a 146 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 2: time that under American law you couldn't have dual citizenship, 147 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 2: so certainly did not become an Israeli citizen. They actually 148 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: created a special oath forolunteers from outside of the country 149 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 2: to take, basically committing them to obey the commands of 150 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 2: their officers, but not swearing loyalty of the country so 151 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 2: as not to jeopardize their American. 152 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: Citizenshipman, well, it sounds like a great book. Fighting Back 153 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: Stan Andrews and the Birth of the Israeli Air Force 154 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: by Jeff Wise and his brother. Did you, folks have 155 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 1: did you just did you and Craig your brother? Did 156 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: you settle upon this or did you have some sort 157 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: of connection with Stan or his family? Or how did 158 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: Is this your first book? Give us a little quick 159 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: background on that. 160 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 2: It's actually our second book. We back in nineteen ninety 161 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 2: eight wrote a book called I Am My Brother's Keeper, 162 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 2: and it was about the thousand or so North Americans, 163 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 2: primarily Americans, who came to Israel as volunteers during the 164 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 2: War of Independence, and in the course of that research 165 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 2: came across Stan's story and decided that after finishing that 166 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 2: first book, we would write a second one focused very 167 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 2: specif typically on Stan. It ended up taking quite a 168 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 2: long time, over twenty years to kind of uncover his 169 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 2: full story, to track down friends from high school, college, 170 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: World War Two, from his service in Israel, archival research, 171 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 2: tracking down his writings. So yeah, so this book actually 172 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 2: came out of the first one and that more general 173 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 2: project about Americans who served over there. 174 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: Well, Jeff, it sounds a good, great book. Looking forward 175 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: to reading it myself. Fighting back Stan Andrews in the 176 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: Birth of the Israeli Air Force. Thanks for being with 177 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: us tonight, Jeff, and congratulate your brother on this remarkable work. 178 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 2: Thank you so much as well. I really appreciate it. 179 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: By the way, I have to mention, I know it's 180 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: available everywhere. Amazon, is that. Do you guys have a website? 181 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 1: Sometimes authors have websites. They like to push the website 182 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: because for Father's Day presence and things like that, they'll 183 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: autograph the book. Do you guys do anything like that 184 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: any where they can get this book other than Amazon? 185 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, we have a website, Jeffreyweins author dot com and 186 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 2: it losto lists some other places where the books available, 187 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 2: but Amazon is probably the most convenient place for most 188 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 2: of us. 189 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: Perfect Okay, Jeff, thanks very much. Congratulations, Thank you, You're 190 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: very welcome. That sounds like a remarkable story as far 191 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: as I'm concerned, and I hope some of you might 192 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: be interested in picking that book up. I think it's 193 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: a great It looks like a great story. We get 194 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: back April's National Volunteer Month. We're going to talk with 195 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: Matt Bertram. He's a VP of Volunteer Services for the 196 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: American Red Cross. And there's a lot of benefits to 197 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: becoming a volunteer. Maybe not salary, but there are side benefits. 198 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: Coming back on Nightside, you're on Night Side with Dan 199 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio. Well, when we think 200 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: about the American Red Cross here on Nightside, we often 201 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: are talking about blood donors and blood donation, but there's 202 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: much more to it. April is National Volunteer Month. Volunteering 203 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: strengthens communities, transforms a lot the lives of those who 204 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: serve and also the lives who are served. And the 205 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: American Red Cross is launching there reimagining Volunteerism initiative, modernizing systems, 206 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: expanding access, and creating more personalized pathways to service. Sounds 207 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: like a big job. Want to welcome you, Matt Bertram, 208 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: vice president of Volunteer Services for the American Red Cross. 209 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: Good evening, Sir. 210 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 3: Good Evan, thanks for having me on this evening. 211 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: You're very welcome. So I've all I know the American 212 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: Red Cross. A lot of people volunteered with the American 213 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: Red Cross. Is this expanding the people who volunteer to 214 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: groups and organizations beyond the American Red Cross. Yeah. 215 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 3: What we're really focused on with our reimagining volunteerism is 216 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 3: making sure that we're equipped to engage volunteers with the 217 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 3: flexible needs they have. You know, we're so fortunate we 218 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 3: have more than three hundred and twenty five thousand volunteers 219 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 3: across the country that power our mission. But at the 220 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 3: same time, we're learning to help you want to volunteers changing. 221 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 3: You know, people are looking for flexible opportunities. They may 222 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 3: have a busy work life, busy with family. Some folks 223 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 3: want to do things one time or maybe a project, 224 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 3: and others are telling us, like, you know, I do skills, 225 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 3: I have a job. I do this work every day 226 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 3: during the week. Is the way I can put my 227 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 3: skills to use to serve my community. So for us 228 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 3: it's about traditional definitions of volunteering don't always capture how 229 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 3: people show up in the communities. So we're going to 230 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 3: make it easier in modernizing our volunteer work with our 231 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 3: Reimagining Volunteerism initiative. 232 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: Okay, so I think I understand how you laid it out, 233 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: But more specifically, are you looking to throw a net 234 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 1: and bring more people into volunteering with your organization, American 235 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: Red Cross, or are you looking to throw that net 236 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: and not only get more volunteers with the American Red Cross, 237 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: but also to show some people other pathways to volunteerism. 238 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 3: You know, I think it's both, right. I think there's 239 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 3: such a there's a power of volunteering obviously, you know, 240 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 3: to meet growing needs and mission needs. We have a 241 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 3: Red Cross, we need to continue to keep our workforce, 242 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 3: you know, our volunteer workforce healthy and growing. But at 243 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 3: the same time, there's a real power in the connection 244 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 3: that comes with volunteering the purpose and it brings people 245 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 3: together around that shirt purpose. So it's both. We're really 246 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 3: just trying to encourage folks about volunteers them and we 247 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 3: think the Red Cross is a great place to try. 248 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 3: But in general, we think there's just so much good 249 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 3: in getting connected to your community. 250 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: What percentage I don't know if you have done a 251 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: study this, but I'm just wondering what percentage of people 252 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: who do volunteer at the American Red Cross. Give me 253 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: a few ideas of what volunteers do. I assume the 254 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: phlebotomists and the people who are growing blood are not volunteers. 255 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: But what do the volunteers do while at the American 256 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: Red Cross? What opportunities present themselves. 257 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great question. There's a lots of great opportunities, 258 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 3: Like even a blood drive you just mentioned, More than 259 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 3: likely when you go to a blood drive, the first 260 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 3: person you run into that blood driver is a volunteer, 261 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 3: bloodun or ambassador. Right, almost all of our blood drives 262 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 3: have volunteers working there, greeting and working with working with 263 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 3: our blood donners. You know, every day across America, so 264 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 3: many people suffer from a home fire. Right, the folks 265 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 3: that respond to gosh, almost sixty thousand home fires year, 266 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 3: those are all volunteers as well. We even have volunteers 267 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 3: that do things like accounting, work in the back office, 268 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 3: answer phones. There's so many different opportunities on the front line, 269 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 3: and even folks that work with our military members. 270 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: Well, that's again that will be exciting to people to 271 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: realize that you're not just handing out cookies and apple 272 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: juice to the people who have donated that time. Do 273 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: a lot of your volunteers get so excited about volunteering 274 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: that they decide to incorporate other volunteer efforts into their 275 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: already busy lives. Do you find some of your folks 276 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: liking the idea of voluntary for the Red Cross and 277 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: then they try to apply it at other organizations other charities. Yeah. 278 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 3: Absolutely, We especially find out with the younger folks that volunteer, 279 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 3: you know, the gen Z's students, and some of those 280 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 3: young people especially like to They really want to make 281 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 3: sure that they understand the impact they're making. And a 282 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 3: lot of our younger volunteers volunteers several different organizations and 283 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 3: we highly encourage that. Right, It's something that's common with 284 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 3: a lot of folks. We also have people that start 285 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 3: at the Red Cross and maybe do a role like 286 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 3: servers of blood down, our ambassador do something, and they 287 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 3: grow to try different roles. That's one of the things 288 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 3: you can do Red Cross is you can start in 289 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 3: a role, you can try different things, and some folks 290 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 3: eventually go on to become, you know, the highly trained 291 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 3: volunteers that travel across the country. So again, there's so 292 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 3: many opportunities, so many flexible roles that people can try. 293 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 3: We're just trying to encourage volunteers in communities everywhere. 294 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: Well, Matt, I think you've done a good job doing that. 295 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: And if folks want to get in touch with the 296 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: Red Cross, I'm sure there's a website where potential volunteers 297 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: can can sign up. Let's have it. Let's have that website. 298 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the easiest way is to go to red 299 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 3: Cross dot org slash volunteer. 300 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: Couldn't make it simpler than that Redcross dot org slash volunteer. 301 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: Matt Bertram, Vice President of Volunteer Services for the American 302 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 1: Red Cross, Thanks for your time tonight. 303 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 3: Thanks so much, appreciate you having me on. 304 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: Very welcome. We got a newscast coming at you right now, 305 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: because it is just a thirty we get back. We're 306 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: going to explain to you emotional intelligence. That sounds like 307 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: something everyone should have, but I think it's a skill 308 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: a lot of us can work on. Emotional intelligence. With 309 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: Monique Domonico, creator of the eqis dot com, a resource 310 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: for emotional intelligence education education. We'll be back on Nightside 311 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 1: right after the news at the bottom of the hour. 312 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 2: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's 313 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 2: news radio. 314 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: All right, I am a firm believer that all of 315 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: us have many intelligences. Some of them are good, some 316 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 1: of them are not so good. I don't have much 317 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: mechanical intelligence or artistic intelligence. I'm not even sure sometime 318 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: I have much of an IQ. But there is a 319 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: concept called emotional intelligence. And Monique Demonaico, who is the 320 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: creator of eqys spelled wi ze dot com, so resource 321 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 1: for emotional intelligence educations. You'se also a certified career coach 322 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 1: and change management expert. I'm kind of a change management expert. 323 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: To Monique, I can I can break a dollar bill 324 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: down ten dimes, twenty nickels all that. Nope, a different 325 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: type of change. I'm sure you're talking about good evening. 326 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: How are you tonight? 327 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 4: I am wow? How are you? 328 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: I think I'm doing okay so far, but it's early 329 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: in the interview. First of all, tell me about your website, 330 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: eqyse wiz dot com. Let's start there. What is that website? 331 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: First of all, what is it? What does it stand for? 332 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: Eqw ize dot. 333 00:18:56,119 --> 00:19:01,239 Speaker 4: Com Emotional Inteller EQ. Emotional inteller is often referred to 334 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 4: as EQ. So its being. 335 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: Yeah and you spell you spell hys w I z 336 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: E like the potato chip. 337 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I didn't realize it was like the potato chip. 338 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 4: I think I just wanted to be different. 339 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: Right, Okay, that's good? So, uh what tell us first? Well, 340 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: what is emotional intelligence? I mean? Is that the intelligence 341 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: that I'm supposed to show when they give me the 342 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: wrong meal at a restaurant and I just want to 343 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: throw the plate a No, multi kidding, I've never done that. 344 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: But you know what is emotional intelligence? 345 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 4: Okay? Emotional intelligence, often referred to as EQ, is the 346 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,719 Speaker 4: ability to manage your emotions and the emotions of others 347 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 4: to work for you rather than against you. So don't 348 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 4: throw that plate. The foundation of emotional intelligence is self awareness. 349 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 4: Some important markers for EQR emotional regulation, resiliency, effective communication, 350 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 4: and even self motivation and competence. And as a turned out, 351 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 4: you mentioned IQ, Your EQ is actually a bigger indicator 352 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,719 Speaker 4: of success and happiness in life than your IQ. And 353 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 4: while your IQ stays relatively stable throughout life, your EQ 354 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 4: with the right tools, techniques and strategies can certainly be increased. 355 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 4: And that's what we do at eqis dot com. We 356 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 4: provide internationally accredited courses to help with those things. 357 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 1: I'm not a big fan of the idea of an 358 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 1: IQ because I think that that measures an aspect of individuals. 359 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: There are friends of mine who may not have a 360 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: big IQ, but they can take a motor apart and 361 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: put it back together in half an hour, and I 362 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: couldn't even begin to do that. There are people who 363 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: have artistic, musical, athletic intelligence, scientific intelligence. I believe there's 364 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: a whole spectrum of intelligence, different levels of intelligence. Do 365 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: you buy that idea? 366 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely? Because IQ right is a standardized testing What 367 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 4: about people who have an IQ high IQ but don't 368 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 4: test well. 369 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people don't test well, There's 370 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: no doubt, no doubt about that. But it's a very 371 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: specific sort of test. I mean, it is you know, 372 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 1: you know, pole is to fishing as bat is to baseball, 373 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 1: you know. I mean there's a little bit of literacy 374 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: there and all of that and being able to analogize, 375 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:28,719 Speaker 1: but emotional So how do you basically make your emotional 376 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: intelligence stronger? Because everybody wants to get better at as 377 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: many things as they can. What's the process? If you 378 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: think that you've got great emotional intelligence, how do you 379 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: get that measured? Is it possible to measure that number one? 380 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: And if so, how do you improve it? 381 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 4: Okay, well, I've been working in this body of work 382 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 4: for thirty years and I still work on my emotional 383 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 4: intelligence on a regular basis. So everyone can benefit from 384 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 4: emotional intelligence training, regardless of where you are on that spectrum. 385 00:21:59,280 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: So what do you do? 386 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 4: So one of the things that you do is you 387 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 4: become more aware of yourself, how you are perceived and 388 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 4: how you're showing up. Is it appropriate for where you're 389 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 4: showing up or you showing up in the right way, 390 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 4: for example, dressed for a job interview. Do you understand 391 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 4: your weaknesses and your strengths? What are you doing to 392 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 4: fill the gaps in with weaknesses? We all have them? Right, 393 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 4: and look at the quality of your relationships. One of 394 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 4: the biggest indicators of happiness in life and success is 395 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 4: the quality of your relationships. So if you consistently struggle 396 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 4: with relationships, there's some kind of issue because you're the 397 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 4: common denominator. So I like to say everywhere you go, 398 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 4: there you are. So what is the feedback that you 399 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 4: get from others? Are you comfortable in your own skin? 400 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 4: Do you find that you can interact with others when 401 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 4: you fail, which we all do? Do you generalize that 402 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 4: failure and see yourself as a failure that creates risk 403 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 4: aversion and undermines your sense of self versus if you 404 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 4: have a high marker for resiliency, when you fail, you 405 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 4: see it for what it is, an isolated incident where 406 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 4: you happen to fail, so you can recover and you 407 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 4: have more information than you did before and move forward 408 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 4: with your sense of self intact and you know you're 409 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 4: not risk adversive. So just start looking at those characteristics. 410 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 4: Can you regulate when you're angry? So anger is a natural, 411 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 4: normal human emotion. But think about it like a think 412 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 4: line somewhere. Everybody's got one horizontal line. When you're below 413 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 4: that line, you're responsive, You can think and act critically. 414 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 4: You're not running, your emotions, aren't running the show. When 415 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 4: you're above the think line, you're reactive, not responsive, And 416 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 4: even from a neurological level, right that fight flight. You 417 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 4: can't say to someone who's like totally off the rails, 418 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,959 Speaker 4: calm down. That's going to have the opposite effect. So 419 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 4: look at the things that you want to measure, for example, resiliency. 420 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 4: When's the time I failed? What did I make? 421 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 2: It? 422 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 5: Mean? 423 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 4: If you are you someone who just goes inside themselves 424 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 4: when there's conflict and you just hide, or are you 425 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 4: someone who flares? 426 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 5: Do you? 427 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 4: I like to say you can have the cure for cancer, 428 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 4: but unless you can effectively communicate that message and create 429 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 4: buy in, it's not going to matter. So are you 430 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 4: able to influence others? Right? Some people just have great 431 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 4: personalities and do that easily. But do you do it 432 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 4: successfully or do you do? You really struggle with that? 433 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 4: So looking at these kinds of things. 434 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a that's a great explanation. I assume that 435 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: a lot of people are going to probably not be 436 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 1: as critical of themselves or to put it another way, 437 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: as honest with themselves as as as they should be. 438 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: It certainly me included. I mean, someone cut you off 439 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 1: in turns and you get upset. You're upset at the 440 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 1: other person. If you happen to cut someone off in traffic. 441 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 1: You don't do it intentionally, but you do it because 442 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: you're daydreaming and you're inverting about it. And someone blasts 443 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: the hornet, you may be preventing an accident. A lot 444 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: of people want to say, guy, blast on a hornet 445 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: before I mean, it's right, So the question is obvious. 446 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: Some indisha specific indisha that would suggest to individuals that 447 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: their emotional intelligence needs some work. So for example, if 448 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 1: you flare easily, if everything turns into an angry moment 449 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: where you're frustrated, I assume you've got to address that. 450 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 1: But that's an indication that your emotional intelligence is probably 451 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: not where you want it to be, right right. 452 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 4: The factor of your emotional regulation in that area another thing. 453 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 4: Just look at your patterns. Like sometimes I have to 454 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 4: tell people. They'll say, well, you know, I've been married 455 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 4: a couple of times, how a few long term relationships, 456 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 4: maybe it adds up to five, And once I start 457 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 4: talking to them, right, there's a consistent issue and I 458 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 4: might have to say to them, no, you haven't had 459 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 4: five relationships. You've had the same relationship five times. So 460 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 4: what are the patterns in your life with money, with relationships? 461 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 4: You know, with anger? Issues with being a conflict avoidant, Like, 462 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 4: conflict is just a natural part of being a human, right, 463 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 4: there's nothing wrong with conflicts. It can be very healthy. 464 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 4: It's how you respond to it that is unhealthy. But 465 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 4: if you just go inward and you know, shut down, 466 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 4: that's dysfunctional. Obviously, then flaring and saying and doing things 467 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 4: that aren't appropriate is the opposite end. So the thing 468 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 4: is I always say, like, look at the repeated patterns. 469 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 4: You're everywhere you go, there you are. So you're a 470 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 4: part of that all the time. 471 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 1: Right, I love that concept. Everywhere you go, there you are. 472 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: You're the only person that spends their entire life with you, 473 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: with you? Oh right, you look, so where can people go? 474 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: It doesn't appear that you're practicing psychiatrist or psychologist. It 475 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: says that you're the creator of this this resource which 476 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: people can go do. I assume eqise, eq w i 477 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: ze dot com. Uh, you're a certified career coach and 478 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: change management expert. Looks to me. If by your area code, 479 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: I'm guessing you're in Pittsburgh. 480 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 4: I am, I am. 481 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: Yeah. I memorized area codes a long time ago, so 482 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: I have pretty good guests, even on the one. Yeah, 483 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 1: well it's I have my head is a compendium of 484 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: useless information. As a talk show host, anyway I can 485 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: people reach out to you? Or do you have to 486 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: live in the great Pittsburgh area for people to seek 487 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: help from you? Are there people in your line of 488 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: work in my listening area which is New England and 489 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: up and down the East Coast, also in Pittsburgh, by 490 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: the way, we have a lot of listeners at Pittsburgh. 491 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 4: Good to know. 492 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: Well. 493 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 4: My first business is coach Mooneque and Associates, so you 494 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 4: can find me there at coachmone dot com. I work 495 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 4: with clients all over the world, so I have a 496 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 4: professional office in Pittsburgh. People who live locally often want 497 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 4: to come into the office. I have people who fly 498 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 4: in for meetings with me from other parts of the country. 499 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 4: But I've had clients in South Africa, Holland, I mean 500 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 4: really all over the world. So many clients I never 501 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 4: meet in person, and that's okay. We have the same outcomes. 502 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 4: And as an emotional, intelligent expert right coaching, I'm a 503 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 4: very tool driven coach and my tools are designed to 504 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 4: be easy to learn, easy to use, immediately relevant, and 505 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 4: that's what's in the EQUI courses. That's what I do 506 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 4: when I meet with clients, That's when I do what 507 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 4: I do when I do organizational and team training. 508 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: Okay, So if people want to get in touch with 509 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: you in whatever or man or they might choose. The 510 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: best place, I assume is the website EQW lowercase iz 511 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: dot com. 512 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 4: Correct, And at the top of the website there's a 513 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 4: tab there for courses, and if you click on that tab, 514 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 4: we offer personal development courses, which are similar to the 515 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 4: coaching training that the average person might want regardless of age. 516 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 4: And then there are resume ready courses. Those are the 517 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 4: courses that are for professional development. All the courses are 518 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 4: internationally accredited, and we like to say we are to 519 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 4: soft skills what Microsoft and Google are to hard scille. 520 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 4: So if you take our professional courses, they're meant to 521 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:44,479 Speaker 4: be listed on your resume or on your CV with 522 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 4: any other certifications you might have. 523 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: All right, Monique Demonico EQW all caps eqw iz dot com. 524 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: Appreciate it really interesting and you have a great way 525 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: to present yourself. Bomb you obviously have a high emotional intelligence, 526 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: and I appreciate your time you spend with us. This evening. 527 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: Thank Thank you very much. 528 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 4: Thank you, and have a wonderful evening you too. 529 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: When we get back, we're going to talk about a 530 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: tough cancer, ocula melanoma. It's a rare cancer and they're 531 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: raising awareness for the fight against ocula melanoma for the 532 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: Mass iron Ear Boston Marathon team. I ear we're gonna 533 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: be talking with Megan Hathaway. She's a runner for the 534 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: team and she was treated for ocula melanoma. We'll talk 535 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: with Megan Hathaway right after this quick break on Nightside. 536 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 2: Night Side with Dan Ray. 537 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 3: I'm Boston's news radio. 538 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: I'm delighted to welcome Megan Hathaway. She's a runner for 539 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: Team iron Ear and patient with Mass iron Air being 540 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: treated for ocular melanoma. Megan, welcome to Nightside. First of all, 541 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: thanks for having the coverage to come on. How are 542 00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: you this evening? 543 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 4: Good? 544 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 5: How are you Dan? Thanks for having me on tonight. 545 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: I'm doing great. I'm doing great. I know a lot 546 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: about the eyes, had my share of problems and have 547 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: had good treatment here in the Boston area with eye issues, 548 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: and I certainly know about melanoma, but I had never 549 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: heard of ocular melanoma. Can you describe that to us, 550 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: I mean, we always think of melanoma as a skinned 551 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: skin cancer. 552 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, of course. So it's a pretty rare cancer that 553 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 5: happens in the iris of an eye. And so I 554 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,479 Speaker 5: had a small tumor that occurred, and it's very different 555 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 5: from traditional melanoma. Actually, it has nothing to really do 556 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 5: with sun or skin damage. It really is kind of 557 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 5: an anomaly. They weren't really sure how I exactly got it. 558 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 5: I was known to possibly have the tumor since I 559 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 5: was about five years old actually, but we didn't really 560 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 5: know what it was until I was seventy at the time, 561 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 5: and that diagnosis and everything happened at Mass Pioneer. So 562 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 5: incredibly grateful for that, but definitely as a super rare cancer, 563 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 5: and that led to it being undiagnosed in me for 564 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 5: so long. 565 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: What was the was the discomfort associated with is or noel? 566 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 5: No, not at all. We thought it was just kind 567 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 5: of a discoloration of my eye. Actually, I had perfect 568 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 5: twenty twenty vision, didn't really need to go to the 569 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 5: eye doctor for anything else otherwise, So it was really 570 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 5: actually identified by just my primary care doctor, and then 571 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 5: I went to a normal eye doctor and no one 572 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 5: was really able to identify it until I went to 573 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 5: mass Pioneer and actually had a biopsy to identify the cancer. 574 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: Okay, so so so essentially it sounds to me like 575 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: you're saying it's a genetic anomaly. 576 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 577 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 5: There really was nothing that they could point to to 578 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 5: why I was exactly diagnosed with it, but it is 579 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 5: very different from traditional melanoma, so it wasn't known to 580 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 5: be really linked to any sort of sun exposure. 581 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: How difficult was the treatment did they have to do? 582 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: I assume surgery in the eye. 583 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, So I had a first surgery, which was a 584 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 5: biopsy to actually test if the cells were cancerous, and 585 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 5: then once we diagnosed that it was ocular melanoma, I 586 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 5: went to radiation treatment. So I had five radiation treatments 587 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 5: at mass Ioneer and that kind of concluded the initial treatment. 588 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 5: But I've been going to mass Ioneer now for the 589 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 5: last eight years for subsequent treatments of the eye for 590 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 5: various you know, side effects and basically just trying to 591 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 5: preserve what's left of the eye and keep it as 592 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 5: healthy as possible. 593 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: How how is your vision and how is your field 594 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: of vision? 595 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 4: Yeah? 596 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 5: So I'm super lucky that I still am able to 597 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 5: keep my eye. It happened in my left eye, and 598 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 5: you know, I can't say the same for many other patients. Unfortunately, 599 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 5: when I was diagnosed, my options were either to go 600 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 5: through radiation or remove the eye, and naturally, as one does, 601 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 5: I chose radiation. And there were definitely some risks but 602 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 5: that we weren't sure if my vision was going to 603 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 5: be able to stay at twenty twenty. And unfortunately, now 604 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 5: eight years later, I don't have any vision left in 605 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 5: that eye, but very lucky to still have it and 606 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 5: keeping it intact. And I do have twenty twenty in 607 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 5: my right eye, so it's definitely been able to be 608 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 5: a huge help and being able to maintain my daily 609 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 5: life and overall a good visual field. 610 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: Okay, and you're also a runner, so this is your 611 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 1: first marathon, it is not. 612 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 5: I ran with Team I in any year last year actually, 613 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 5: and that was my first marathon. So actually these two 614 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 5: marathons will be the only running races I've ever done. 615 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 5: So very lucky to be a part of Mass Pioneer 616 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,720 Speaker 5: and have this incredible opportunity. It's a great team and 617 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 5: I'm very happy to be running for such an incredible institution. 618 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 1: How big a team do you have? How many people 619 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 1: are running? 620 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 5: We have just over fifty runners, so we're definitely one 621 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 5: of the smaller charity teams. But I think that that 622 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 5: just makes it more special because everyone has a really 623 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 5: strong tie to mass Irooneer in some way and a 624 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 5: story to tell. So it's really awesome to run for 625 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 5: a group that has a. 626 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: Shared caps So how come I listen to support you 627 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 1: or support Team Ioneer. What's the best way to do that? 628 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, So we have a team given game page where 629 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 5: our charity runners all have their individual pages that you 630 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:48,760 Speaker 5: can contribute to to donate. Every charity or excuse me runner 631 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 5: has a ten thousand dollars goal and we've raised over 632 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 5: five hund or k this year so far, and we've 633 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,240 Speaker 5: still got a week and a half till the race. 634 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 5: So if you're interested in donating, you can certainly go 635 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,760 Speaker 5: to that page and donate to any of our individual 636 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 5: runners and it will go towards the team goal. 637 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 1: Will you sound like a remarkable human being? Megan? Oh, 638 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,439 Speaker 1: thank you, No, I'm serious to you sound like you're 639 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: still very young and you have a lot of life 640 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: left in front of you and with the great care 641 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: you've had. I'm sure that there are developments down the 642 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 1: line that that maybe with some good fortune, that that 643 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: your vision can be restored in some way. I'm sure 644 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 1: that that everyone is going to be hopeful of that, 645 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,280 Speaker 1: and we hope you have a very successful day. Again, 646 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: give us the web page so people can get there 647 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: and look for your name, Megan Hathaway. Give us the 648 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: web page one more time. 649 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, of course it's It's on a website called Give 650 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,959 Speaker 5: and Gain, which is basically just a charity website where 651 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 5: you can donate directly to that page. So I'm sure 652 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 5: if you want the link, I'm happy to send it 653 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 5: over and we can we can put it out there 654 00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 5: to anyone who wants it. 655 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 1: Well, we're just going to it out there right now. 656 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 1: So Give and games G I V E A N B. 657 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, I am right, yeah, Give and Gain dot com 658 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 5: or uh, do you want the exact U R L 659 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 5: or No? 660 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: I think I think if we if we work with 661 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 1: that and then do they look then for the team irooneer? 662 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 1: Is that is that the yeah that they find you? 663 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 5: Yeah? Thank you? You can go do I believe in 664 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 5: search charities and if you click on Team Iioneer you 665 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 5: should be able to see all of our teammates and 666 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 5: their donation pages. 667 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: Perfect mega, best of luck on the twentieth. I'm sure 668 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:40,760 Speaker 1: you'll have a wonderful day. And thank you for having 669 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 1: the courage to deal with this issue and to overcome 670 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:48,240 Speaker 1: this issue, and it has it has to be difficult. 671 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure you have a great family support and you 672 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 1: have a lot of support I hope from my listeners 673 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: on night side during the race. Thanks so much, Megan. Okay, 674 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: we'll talk again. 675 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. 676 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: Dan, You're welcome. When we get back. We are going 677 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 1: to talk about the shaky ceasefire in Iran or in 678 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 1: the Middle East, I should say, we're going to break 679 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: it down with Professor Ali Banawazizi. He is at Boston College, 680 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 1: has been there for many years, grew up in Iran, 681 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 1: has not been back since before the revolution. But he 682 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 1: will give us some insights as to what the people 683 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 1: in Iran are undergoing and what they are thinking, and 684 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 1: where this whole situation may end up. Let's hope it 685 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,959 Speaker 1: ends up in a better place than it's been. Coming 686 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 1: back on night Side right after the nine o'clock news, 687 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 1: my name is Dan Ray,