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Speaker 1: With you for twenty three years in counting through a

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Speaker 1: good time, good job, and bad's gross. The one constant

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Speaker 1: in your life is ro Firs Morning Glory.

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Speaker 2: We'll get the shoes again just a moment. What do

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Speaker 2: you have on the way, Dougie.

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Speaker 3: I want you to fire up RMGTV if you can,

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Speaker 3: because there is a video of two ladies and you

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Speaker 3: hear someone say you're at the wrong place at the

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Speaker 3: wrong time.

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Speaker 4: Do you hear this story and see the video next?

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll get to that in just a moment.

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Speaker 5: You can fire op ARMGTV at Roverradio dot com or

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Speaker 5: with the Rover Radio app on your phone, your tablet

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Speaker 5: or your TV. I'm reading a lot of text messages

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Speaker 5: coming in, people disputing what the guy who was on

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Speaker 5: the phone have to say. Billiam says, as a former medic,

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Speaker 5: I can tell you it takes way longer than he

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Speaker 5: seven minutes for someone's extremity to start to die from

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Speaker 5: a tourniquet, and Jack says, roll over, this guy is

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Speaker 5: full of crap. I lost my leg in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 5: I passed out on both my legs while they were

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Speaker 5: other one they had to chop off. Oh my god,

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Speaker 5: but there was no bs about eleven minutes that it

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Speaker 5: turns the blood to poison once it hits your heart.

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Speaker 5: That guy is an idiot. And Adam says, the guy

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Speaker 5: who said you would die as an idiot. I cut

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Speaker 5: up with a cute kidney failure, but I did not die.

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Speaker 5: And Nicky says, this guy knows absolutely nothing about tourniquet's.

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Speaker 5: First responders have kept them on patience way longer than

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Speaker 5: eight minutes. An adventure to say that most of these

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Speaker 5: people did not lose their limbs. It depends on the

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Speaker 5: injury itself. And then er doctor X says, you have

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Speaker 5: six plus hours to leave a tourniquet on. This guy

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Speaker 5: has no clue, so he's debating what that guy said.

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Speaker 2: So why wouldn't you turn to hit your I he

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Speaker 6: This damage you still scared something up. Yeah I don't

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Speaker 6: see what, but yeah, I guess if it's not if

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Speaker 6: you do it for hours, I don't know about hours though.

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Speaker 7: They wouldn't use them if they if every time they

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Speaker 7: put a tourniquet on that happened, if that was that extreme,

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Speaker 7: they would be let's not use this method.

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Speaker 5: Right, Oh man? Do you remember it was the I

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Speaker 5: think it was the Boston Marathon bombing. Do you remember

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Speaker 5: there was a picture and it's this guy that he

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Speaker 5: gets his uh, I don't know if it was a

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Speaker 5: man or a woman leg blown off, all right, And

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Speaker 5: there's happened to be a first responder there who was

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Speaker 5: I don't know, maybe like a former army medic or

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Speaker 5: something like that. Whatever, And this dude reaches in to

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Speaker 5: wherever this leg had been blown off, and he and

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Speaker 5: like this and keeps holding it as they carry this

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Speaker 5: person away with no leg and save the person's life.

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Speaker 2: But oh my god, could you imagine something like that?

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Speaker 5: Unbelievable anyway, So yeah, in other words, we have no

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Speaker 5: idea what to do on a rattlesnake bite. Dougie, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: are you ready for the shizy?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Here we go. Kit is shizzy.

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Speaker 8: On Rolls Morning Glory, a woman was killed during a

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Speaker 8: Saint Patrick's Day Parade in Kentucky after her foot snagged

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Speaker 4: It crushed her to death.

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Speaker 3: Of course, this is all in front of dozens of

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Speaker 4: Just a freak accident.

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Speaker 3: And the woman they said, was in her thirties.

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Speaker 4: She was just walking alongside the float.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So they obviously came to a stop immediately and

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Speaker 4: The wrong place at the wrong time.

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Speaker 3: There outside of one of those bodega and those little stores, and.

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Speaker 4: This is what happens.

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Speaker 9: Oh yeah, it was a runaway cab crashing into two

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Speaker 10: Two girls were walking. This cab lost control hit the

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Speaker 10: The other girl fell down through the basement. You heard correctly.

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Speaker 9: The force of the impact hurled one of the women

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Speaker 10: I was actually talking to the girl name was Dina

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Speaker 2: So we tried they survived.

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Speaker 3: So and I looked at a couple of different places.

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Speaker 3: What caused the taxi to go out of control?

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Speaker 5: I keep find a out of control. I don't think

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Speaker 3: It just says that the driver lost control and that

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Speaker 7: In that pre seconded for a moment. The girl with

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Speaker 7: don't even have enough to frame by frame. She freely

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Speaker 5: That's where probably where she sees it, but it's it's right. Well,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's that CAB's not going in the right direction.

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Speaker 7: She flinched and you see her like kind of just

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Speaker 2: Her arms come up to her chest just a little bit.

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Speaker 2: On Belie, are you totally fine? So well, both survive.

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Speaker 5: Who knows if a probably broke a lag or something,

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Speaker 5: but I mean that's incredible if they survive, very very lucky.

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Speaker 3: Jury deliberations in a Landmark social media addiction continue in

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Speaker 3: the jury deliberations for the Landmarks social media addiction trial

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Speaker 4: So Matta and YouTube, we've.

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Speaker 3: Been giving you the information all last week. They are,

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Speaker 3: of course on trial in downtown LA. They're accused of

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Speaker 3: deliberately engineering their sights to hook young users, and a

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Speaker 3: had a negative impact on her youth. Closing arguments were

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Speaker 2: I think that they do.

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Speaker 5: Try to make their product quote unquote addict. If I

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Speaker 5: suppose they want people to use their product. Longer you

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Speaker 5: stay on this, the more money they make. But is

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Speaker 5: it an actual addiction like cocaine or something like that,

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Speaker 5: yes it is. I think at some point you have

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Speaker 5: to take personal responsibility, or you have to take responsibility

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Speaker 2: This twenty year old woman.

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Speaker 5: Who is filing this lawsuit, I don't know anything about

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Speaker 5: her case, but where were her parents when all of

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Speaker 5: this detrimental when these detrimental effects were taking place? Because

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Speaker 5: she was on Instagram? Well, boo hoo, you know you

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Speaker 3: Old you say that to somebody that was a drug addict,

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Speaker 3: where were your parents? Oh boo who you need to

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Speaker 3: make a decision to stop using drugs? No?

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Speaker 4: You of course you wouldn't say that to an addict, right.

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Speaker 2: It depends. It depends on the situation.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you do have to take personal responsibility for

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Speaker 5: for your own actions or for the actions of your children.

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Speaker 5: I mean, look, there's only so much you can do.

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Speaker 5: they don't want to stop using. It doesn't matter what

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Speaker 2: They just won't stop. But now there is there's a level.

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Speaker 2: It's not somebody else's fault that you got addicted to drugs. Now,

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Speaker 5: Exception, I do understand cases where they say, you know,

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Speaker 5: then it spirals out of control and that's how they

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Speaker 2: That's that's your fault. I hate to say.

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Speaker 3: Go on, finally, Share, you know Jeffrey's favorite singer, one

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Speaker 3: of them, Yes, once in Rochester, New York. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 3: let's put let's correct the record. That was a cross

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Speaker 3: person cross dressing his share because I know that for

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Speaker 11: Shirre does not wear phosphoresdent lipstick. It does not have

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Speaker 11: a very voices. Yes, okay, here, you got to remember.

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Speaker 11: I think I'm still scarred by that thanks to a

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Speaker 5: Well, share doesn't have doesn't wear that kind of lipstick.

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Speaker 2: That's that that was your tip off.

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Speaker 11: a certain member of former members of his show had

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Speaker 2: Him and another he was a member, right, Another.

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Speaker 11: Staff member of our show has also had a little

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Speaker 11: something to do with that too, And I'm probably looking

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Speaker 11: directly at him because you and Rob, I'll say it once,

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Speaker 11: you and him did a lot pulled a lot of pranks.

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Speaker 2: On me during the time.

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Speaker 5: Jeffrey, I'm thinking maybe we take you to Los Angeles

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Speaker 5: and you could you could file a lawsuit against Charlie

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Speaker 5: and Rob our old producer, maybe Tom our old phone screener,

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Speaker 5: And I mean you could.

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Speaker 2: Get in on like this Instagram things. You know what

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Speaker 2: though I'm not I'm not the crow.

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Speaker 11: Probably throw that out anyway, So as far as I'm concerned,

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Speaker 11: the way I still see it, I don't care. Rest

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Speaker 11: asked what anyone else says that dude psychologically.

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Speaker 2: Scarred me for the rest of my life. Who did

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Speaker 2: the cross dresser?

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Speaker 11: No, the person that used to work on our show

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Speaker 11: and won't say his name, anymore.

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Speaker 3: Okay, your son chas Bono has married his childhood's sweetheart,

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Speaker 3: so congratulations to them. Now share has two sons. She's

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Speaker 3: very pretty. Yeah, okay, hold on, you're gonna have to

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Speaker 3: what you're gonna have to figure this out for me?

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Speaker 2: Is chez chess chas born girl? Right? Okay? So Chaz

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Speaker 5: Okay, But Chaz, who was born a woman or born

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Speaker 3: They're not really giving us that kind of information, like

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Speaker 3: The girl that he's mirroring is Shara Shara blue math

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Speaker 2: Yes? Oh oh wow. That's a big difference there.

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Speaker 3: Fielders and stuff people magazine editing, that's their editors.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Yeah, you're right, Holy Max.

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Speaker 4: Well, Chas is fifty seven mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: Good for a sad childhood sweetheart.

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Speaker 6: So she's probably fifty five fifth round.

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Speaker 3: They were just teenagers when they met. Uh huh, all right, yeah,

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Speaker 5: Well, Eric asks, did you see Bert Kreischer's bus burnt

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Speaker 5: Bert's we are all safe, but my bus is gone.

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Speaker 5: God works in mysterious ways. So what happened? How did

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Speaker 5: I'm telling you these buses catch on fire way more

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Speaker 5: I don't know what caused this fire. Somebody said it

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Speaker 5: Said it almost killed him because the bus goes out

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Speaker 5: don't know what causes exactly, parks from the metal rims

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Speaker 11: That could cause a lot of sparks, and maybe they

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know if that's how it went, but

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Speaker 5: I'm just making a hypothesis. The picture of his bus

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Speaker 3: And yes, buses are started after the tire blue off

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Speaker 5: The TMS is reporting he had those tires. We were

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Speaker 5: no joke. It's it's not like Jeffery getting tires on

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Speaker 6: I just had to go so I ran over a

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Speaker 6: then when took it to the shop, got it patched up.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. It was awesome? Is that where you

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Speaker 5: Do you think that they patched it in a way

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Speaker 6: Nice, just for free. That's my guess too. They just

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Speaker 3: I have had that as well. I'm wondering if it's

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Speaker 3: go ahead, just go ahead. They didn't charge me. I'm like,

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Speaker 11: Commercial bus tires run between five hundred to nine dollars,

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Speaker 12: Oh okay, okay, good story. You're on Rovery's Morning Glory.

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Speaker 12: Good morning, Scott Brover. Yo, Yo, what's happening about?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 13: So. I know there's been a lot of medical talk lately.

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Speaker 13: So I had that was having kind of the same

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Speaker 2: I actually did.

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Speaker 13: Something to hurt myself. We're still not sure what you

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Speaker 13: that's right. Okay, But I noticed a couple of weeks

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Speaker 13: you were going to schedule it, and then something happened.

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Speaker 13: I just wanted to give you a little bit of

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Speaker 5: Or no, I don't think I'm gonna I'm trying to

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Speaker 6: They told me.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, they told me I had frozen shoulder too. And

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Speaker 5: Well, they can do something where they cut away all

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Speaker 2: It doesn't, and I'm going to try. You know.

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Speaker 5: They say it takes up to two years to fully

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Speaker 5: It's certainly not one hundred percent. I would say it's

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Speaker 5: at approximately forty percent. You do it should be your

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you so.

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Speaker 13: When I first started going, you know, because these insurance companies,

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Speaker 13: and it's just not going to get it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm over a year in hell right now.

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Speaker 5: In a year ago, I think the physical therapy was

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Speaker 6: She had it first right and frozen shoulder, and whenever

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Speaker 6: just wondering, did you actually do work, Doujie.

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Speaker 2: Did you do the things you're supposed to know?

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Speaker 4: That's why it took me two years to fully recover.

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Speaker 4: That's what I've been telling me.

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Speaker 3: Listen, I told you you're such an ass. I told

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Speaker 4: I stopped going.

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Speaker 2: Well, he's told that's what I told you.

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Speaker 3: Two years it was two years because I didn't go

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Speaker 12: Therapy, and now yours is fine though, totally fine, full

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Speaker 2: No pain, no hey.

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Speaker 13: So okay, well, Rover, I'll tell you this, good luck

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Speaker 13: You're still awake. Now you're supposed to be loopy if

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Speaker 13: and they warn you about this. The nerve block is

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Speaker 2: You wake up is it's not Yeah, it's shoulder surgery

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Speaker 13: So I've been told again the same thing. Luckily they

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Speaker 13: didn't have to do anything with my rotator cuffs. If

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Speaker 13: they got to mess with your rotator cuff, you're down

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Speaker 13: You're not using your arm. Is it your right or your.

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Speaker 5: Left left arm? And I'm right handed, so that's better,

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Speaker 5: I suppose.

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Speaker 13: But yeah, lucky for you. So I'm right here and

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Speaker 13: that I can't do.

444
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Speaker 2: So you'll be real in.

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Speaker 13: Real good shapes there. But being able to use your

446
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:21,959
Speaker 13: right arm no. Surprisingly again, the first couple of days

447
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,120
Speaker 13: they gave me, I don't know, some pay medicine only

448
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,679
Speaker 13: for like three days though, and I didn't even end

449
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 13: up taking all that. The first two days were rough,

450
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Speaker 13: just trying to get comfortable, either sleeping in a recliner

451
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 13: or getting your pillows set up. But so far, the

452
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 13: pain that I was feeling before is gone. Now again,

453
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Speaker 13: I haven't been able to use my right arm, but

454
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Speaker 13: I wouldn't push it off. If you need surgery, you're

455
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:48,359
Speaker 13: not getting any younger.

456
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 5: I don't get it done, but I do have to start.

457
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 5: Maybe somebody told me to just start hanging, just hang

458
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 5: off of a bar and maybe that will help. So

459
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 5: I'm going I'm going to do some hanging because it's

460
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,919
Speaker 5: some stretch. And I just tied my wife the other day.

461
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 5: I said, I think you're gonna have to start to

462
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 5: stretching my arm out a little bit. We got to

463
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 5: get this thing because it's it's it's difficult to sleep,

464
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 5: but during the day it's not too bad. Don just

465
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 5: had his old shoulder replacement surgery. He's been fourteen months.

466
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 5: He's only at seventy percent after fourteen months, and Kurtie says,

467
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 5: I've been going back and listening to old episodes. You've

468
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 5: been dealing with this since twenty sixteen.

469
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 2: That was.

470
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,640
Speaker 5: That was my other shoulder. That was my right shoulder.

471
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 5: That was a different That was a different problem. That

472
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 5: was a torn labrum or, as Charlie always likes to say,

473
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 5: my torn laby. So you had two different issues. This

474
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 5: is my left shoulder. All right, I got to take

475
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Speaker 5: a break. Eight sixty six your rover as our number

476
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Speaker 5: will be right back.

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Speaker 11: Hang on, Welcome back to the show that makes you

478
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Speaker 11: feel good about.

479
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Speaker 1: Yourself because you're not as stuff as us are, yet

480
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Speaker 1: very glory.

481
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 5: I'm curious if Snitzer is happy or sad to definitively

482
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Speaker 5: find out the true identity of Banksy, the graffiti artists,

483
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 5: stencil artist, whatever you want to call the guy. Reuters

484
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 5: has done an exhaustive research and investigation into the identity

485
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:36,360
Speaker 5: of Banksy.

486
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:38,160
Speaker 2: They say that.

487
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,439
Speaker 5: They did this because he's has so much art and

488
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 5: will have a lasting effect and you know, yes he

489
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,199
Speaker 5: wants to remain anonymous, but.

490
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 2: Tough luck, basically is what they said.

491
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Speaker 5: Now, there has been some speculation about who banks he

492
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 5: is in the past. He's the guy that do you

493
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 5: remember the a piece of artwork. I don't know what

494
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 5: auction house. It was at Christie's or something, and they

495
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 5: had this, this stencil, this piece of art that he did,

496
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 5: and then in the frame was a shredder and then

497
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 5: after it had sold for like four million dollars or something,

498
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 5: it went through a shredder and then it actually the

499
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Speaker 5: artwork then sold later for twenty five million dollars after

500
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 5: it was half shredded. It was supposed to go all

501
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,239
Speaker 5: the way through the shredder apparently, and it jammed up

502
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 5: and it didn't work exactly the way that Banksy had

503
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 5: intended it to work. But it ends up being a

504
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 5: cool piece either way. And Reuters has.

505
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Speaker 2: Done an investigation because.

506
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Speaker 5: In twenty twenty two, Banksy art started appearing in Ukraine.

507
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 5: Now this was right after Ukraine was attacked by Russia,

508
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,479
Speaker 5: and they had done some art stencils on walls that

509
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 5: were just miles from the front line, a few months

510
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 5: after the attacks had taken place, and they wondered, how

511
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 5: did this happen? How did this how was he able

512
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 5: to pull this off? So they did an investigation. They

513
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 5: actually went to that village in Ukraine. They talked to

514
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:22,439
Speaker 5: people who saw them. Apparently one woman who lives in

515
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,360
Speaker 5: a building, an apartment building there that was bombed out.

516
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 2: She actually served tea to the artist.

517
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 5: Actually, there are three people that showed up and they

518
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 5: were showing her pictures and she's looking at all these

519
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 5: different pictures and they said that when she got to

520
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 5: the picture of Banksy, who it is, her eyes lit up,

521
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 5: but she said, no, don't know who that never saw

522
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 5: that guy, but they could tell she was lying. And

523
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 5: then they got a source in Ukraine to figure out

524
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 5: passports and who was coming into the country. And one

525
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 5: of the people was coming into the country was what's

526
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 5: the lead? Who's the guy from what is it? What's

527
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 5: the band?

528
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 3: What is it?

529
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 2: Massive Attack? Massive Attack? His name is uh Robert do Naja. Yes,

530
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 2: and suspected.

531
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Speaker 5: Banks He one of the ideas for being Banksy for

532
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 5: a number of years. Sometimes banks the artworks shows up

533
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 5: the same time that Massive Attack is playing shows around

534
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Speaker 5: the world.

535
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 2: They're from the same port. He was there.

536
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 5: He was in Ukraine at the time that the banks

537
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 5: That banks He art appeared there.

538
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 14: He's also a three D a graffiti artist, Robert.

539
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 5: That's Robert de Naja, So that's one. Some people have

540
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 5: speculated that this is Banksy. However, he was there, but

541
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 5: there were three people there. They know the identity of

542
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 5: one person because his arms and legs were blown off,

543
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 5: and he actually like a guy who runs a charity,

544
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 5: so he was there driving around this guy from Massive

545
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 5: Attack and somebody else the other person.

546
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 2: They go, who is it? Who is this person?

547
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 5: Back in two thousand and eight, I believe a newspaper

548
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 5: revealed that a guy named Robin Cunning Gunningham from Bristol,

549
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 5: England was Banksy. At least they said, we're about ninety

550
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 5: nine percent sure that this is Banksy. But their source, Reuters,

551
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 5: had this source in Ukraine that was showing when people

552
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 5: entered and left the country, checking passports, so on and

553
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 5: so forth, and they go, we don't see a Robin Gunningham.

554
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 5: We don't see nobody, so who is that third person?

555
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 5: Through very extensive research they found out that Banksy is

556
00:28:55,120 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 5: indeed Robin Gunningham. He changed his name to David Jones,

557
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 5: which is the most popular male name in England, so

558
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 5: that he could have the same name as thousands of

559
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 5: other men, and that is what now he uses on

560
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 5: his passport. He went into Ukraine under the passport David Jones.

561
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 5: He's legally changed his name to that birth date, same

562
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 5: as Robin Gunningham. So Banksy, they say, is definitively Robin Gunningham.

563
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 5: Not only through that, but they also found out that

564
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 5: in a book that was released by Banksy's former manager,

565
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 5: he detailed a story about Banksy defacing a billboard in

566
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 5: New York City back in like two thousand or early two,

567
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 5: like somewhere, I mean a long time ago, twenty five

568
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 5: years ago, and said that the police had stopped him. Well,

569
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 5: Reuters went in and they geo located the building where

570
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 5: this took place. They figured out all the billboard that

571
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 5: was defaced happened to be during New York Fashion Week.

572
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 5: That was the only time that the billboard was up.

573
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 5: They were then able to look at police reports from

574
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 5: that period of time and they found an arrest that

575
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 5: was made at that address for defacing a billboard and

576
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 5: there is a written confession from a Robin Gunningham.

577
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: Wow, so case closed.

578
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 5: Banksy is Robin Gunning Yeah, yeah, well you saw the

579
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 5: other guy first. Yeah, let's go back to that guy

580
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 5: for a massive attack.

581
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Speaker 14: That's who I went and saw themon concert. It's like

582
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 14: I saw a Banksy concert. I'm really super excited.

583
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Speaker 5: Okay, that looked that guy looks like an artist, like

584
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 5: you know from the Artist and from the movie he

585
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 5: was him.

586
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 6: When they're interviewing him, it looks like that same body

587
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 6: type everything. Yeah, the eyebrows and stuff. When there's a

588
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 6: there's one interview where they have him with just a

589
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 6: a mask on. He's kind those eyebrows, you know. But anyway,

590
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 6: so here's the where's the other guy?

591
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 2: Actual banks See this is kind of something.

592
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 3: It's not his dandruff, he's wearing dirty clothes.

593
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 6: This is how should Yeah, this is good. That's why

594
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 6: it should have been a secret. I like the veteran

595
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 6: of a secret. I didn't like I saw this article

596
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 6: over the weekend, didn't click on it, didn't want to see.

597
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 2: I don't want to want to know who he is.

598
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 2: Well that's what he looks like today. Yeah, it just

599
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 2: kind of ruined it. It's just not I mean, they

600
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 2: went deep in this Reuters thing.

601
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 5: I mean they have all sorts of evidence and proof,

602
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 5: and they even have pictures from like, uh like twenty

603
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 5: five years ago where it's him covering his face, but

604
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 5: then he has like a bracelet on, and then they're

605
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 5: able to like track the bracelet and so on and

606
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 5: so forth, so they they know definitively that it is

607
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 5: this Robin Gunningham guy who is Banksy, who's amassed a

608
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 5: huge fortune by the way through his art ork uh,

609
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 5: and he's kept it all anonymous. He has various companies

610
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 5: and he's been able to get away with all of

611
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 5: his graffiti and whatnot. Some graffiti artists in the in

612
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 5: the article are saying, hey, it's not fair that this

613
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 5: guy is able to paint these things on government buildings

614
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 5: and he never gets arrested, he never gets fined, Like,

615
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 5: how can we go and do stuff and we're breaking

616
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 5: the law. He does something and it's supposedly this this

617
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 5: great art.

618
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 14: So other these nerds are all jealous that, you know,

619
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 14: they investigation. Yeah, here's that. Here's supposedly Banksy during an interview.

620
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 14: That's the other guy. That's Robert and Naja. That's not

621
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 14: they're both working together in some way. Why were they

622
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 14: both in the Ukraine? They are definitely there's there's rumors

623
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 14: that Banksy was just like a not a conglomerate but

624
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 14: collective collective almost.

625
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 5: You know both Well, no, I think I think this

626
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 5: Gunningham is Banksy. Now he might have been collaborating with

627
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 5: this guy from Massive Attack to some extent to try

628
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 5: to keep people sort of on their well the task

629
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 5: balance they both started at the time. They found a

630
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 5: former girlfriend of Banksy and she did an auction a

631
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 5: while ago of like all these letters and things that

632
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 5: Banksy and.

633
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 2: She basically she didn't.

634
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 5: She she wouldn't tell Reuters what his real name is,

635
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 5: but she did talk about the evolution of him in

636
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 5: some of his letters and things. You know, this is

637
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 5: back when people would write letters before we had email, and.

638
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: He was.

639
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 5: It started the name Banks he started because his real

640
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 5: name is Robin Gunningham, and then he started going by

641
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 5: Robin Banks.

642
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 2: Get it, Robin Banks, and then.

643
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 5: He started just going by Banks, and then Banksy is

644
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 5: how it ended up being. So it's definitely this Gunningham

645
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 5: guy is Banksy?

646
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 2: Does that sort of kill it for you? Snitch?

647
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 5: Or are you happy to finally know the This is

648
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 5: like that band what's having sleep Token? And people are like,

649
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 5: who the hell? They all wear masks. Well they've figured

650
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 5: out who sleep Token is and it's just some nerdy

651
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 5: music guy.

652
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 3: No.

653
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 14: I mean his art is still his art, you know,

654
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 14: it's still banks. He still has cool ideas and stuff.

655
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 14: Not as cool though, right. I wish it was you know,

656
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 14: from Danaja, because.

657
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 5: Look cool, this guy baksally looks like an unemployed plumber,

658
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 5: doesn't he like? Who loves in his mom's basement and

659
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 5: watches weird internet porn all day?

660
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 2: So yeah, look at this guy. Oh man, I wonder

661
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:00,280
Speaker 2: what this was gonna do.

662
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 5: Do you think this increases or decreases the value of

663
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Speaker 5: his art decreases?

664
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 2: Oh well yeah, yeah. The whole thing was all mystery.

665
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 2: Who is it now? Magic's kind of gone, totally gone.

666
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,479
Speaker 2: They say that it is.

667
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 5: Very difficult to own a legitimate banks You can get

668
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 5: some of these prints that he does, but then when

669
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 5: he does this stuff on walls, his company is the

670
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 5: only company is a company, and they will authenticate your

671
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 5: Banksy artwork, but they refuse to authenticate anything that is

672
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 5: done in public.

673
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 2: So I can't just go cut out a wall.

674
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 5: If Banksy does a stencil, paints a stencil on my building,

675
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 5: and then I go, well, I'm going to cut out

676
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 5: that wall or cut off that garage door and sell that,

677
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 5: they refuse to authenticate it as a bank Sy.

678
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 2: So he kind of has.

679
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 5: I don't know what word I'm looking for here, but

680
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,919
Speaker 5: he has like almost like a monopoly on the authentication,

681
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 5: so he can really sort of dictate. It's almost market manipulation,

682
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 5: is what they were saying in this article, that he

683
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 5: can manipulate the price of his own art because he

684
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 5: refuses to authenticate some things and then will authenticate other things.

685
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 5: And it's pretty interesting. But for a long time the

686
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 5: guy went unknown and now we know who is fifty

687
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 5: one year old Robin Gunningham from Bristol, England, definitively identified

688
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:38,399
Speaker 5: as Banksy by an exhaustive Reuter's report. Do you think

689
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 5: his artwork is great since or do you think it's

690
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:46,760
Speaker 5: just sort of I like his take on things. See sometimes,

691
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 5: like with most art, I look at it and I go,

692
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 5: what is the take on things?

693
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 2: Is? What is what's the meaning here? Exactly?

694
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 5: One I saw that he did not too long ago

695
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 5: that sort of made sense.

696
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 2: It was like, what was it?

697
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 5: It was a stencil that he did on a courthouse

698
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 5: in England. I think of a judge beating a prote

699
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 5: I forget. I don't know, but that one made sense

700
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 5: to me. But some of the other stuff. What's this

701
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 5: one with the girl in the balloon, the heart shaped balloon?

702
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 5: What's that all about? What does that mean?

703
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 2: She which one? Oh, the the one that got shredded? Yeah,

704
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 2: well the one yeah, but that's been used before, yeah yeah,

705
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 2: So what's what's that all about? I don't know if

706
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 2: this is the original.

707
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 14: I have no idea of where that goes wasn't it

708
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 14: like that it floats over the fence. Wasn't it on

709
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 14: a fence or something? Or is that something different? I

710
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 14: need to see the context. I'm exactly sure where that

711
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 14: was put.

712
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 6: Not everything has to have some deep meeting. Like here's

713
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 6: like this is cool looking. Like here's there's two elephants

714
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 6: looking at each other. All right, that's cool, that's fine.

715
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 6: Like there's a goat, there's just meat looking. You just

716
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 6: make things look cool.

717
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 5: The one in Ukraine was it was a bombed out

718
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 5: building with the bathroom. This apartment block had had been

719
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 5: bombed out, and then it was just some old dude

720
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 5: in a bathtub scrubbing his back. Let me see if

721
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 5: you haven't put that picture. I don't know exactly what

722
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 5: is heah there it is.

723
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 2: What is the what's the meaning of that?

724
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 14: He was taking a bath and now his building's are

725
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 14: blowing up, you're exposed.

726
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 2: He's just oh I would just line in my own

727
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 2: business goes on?

728
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 4: You still have to take a bath.

729
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 2: Or is he taking a bath?

730
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 3: Okay, what do you think he's doing?

731
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 2: But I don't know the deep meaning behind this exactly.

732
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 2: I don't know.

733
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 5: I guess he is anti war, but he has been

734
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 5: identified and it's a so it's a little bit of

735
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 5: a sad day for Snitzer now that he's been definitively

736
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 5: idd or is it all part of the huax?

737
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 2: Have they pulled one? Have they pulled the wool over

738
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 2: Reuter's eyes?

739
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 4: You think they did?

740
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 2: Maybe?

741
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 4: I don't know.

742
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,439
Speaker 2: All right, I've got to take a break. We got

743
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 2: way behind today.

744
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 5: Eight sixty six year Rover is our number eight six

745
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 5: six nine sixty seven six eight three seven. Jim says,

746
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 5: didn't a banksy display kill a woman in the past?

747
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:20,479
Speaker 5: Banksy display kill a woman? I don't know. I don't.

748
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 5: I don't think so. I don't know anything about that.

749
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 5: But we'll search that during the break. We'll be right

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Speaker 5: back on rovers morning. Glory, hang on,