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Speaker 2: How it's been a little while, it has, you know,

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Speaker 3: How many?

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Speaker 1: How many years? Now? This is our fourth straight season?

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Speaker 1: Season? Season? Season?

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Speaker 2: Is the right word? You say Merry Christmas to people?

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Speaker 2: Are absolutely you impressed me as a happy Holidays. Merry Christmas. No, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I remember that one year when it was like, oh,

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Speaker 2: But that I mean that was in the rear view mirror.

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Speaker 2: We will be here through Christmas a year and right

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Speaker 5: So I'm gonna give you guys a little bit of

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Speaker 2: that it's amazing how when Joe Burrow was on his game,

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Speaker 1: It's how you drew it up, isn't it though? I

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Speaker 2: But in any case, these are now meaningless games. What's

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Speaker 2: what's the upside to them winning games now? When you

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Speaker 5: Okay, so I'm going to go all coach speak on you.

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Speaker 5: Now, why is that relevant to the Bengals Because you

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Speaker 1: Of the ball.

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Speaker 2: I liked your column Day Drags. I always like your

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Speaker 2: appreciate different viewpoints. I want to read this what you

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Speaker 2: wrote here a chunk out of your column. Quote everything

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Speaker 2: the Bengals did on defense in the third quarter, forcing

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Speaker 2: Say it together, complimentary football quote. That's how it's supposed

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Speaker 2: to look like. Joe Burrow said that bingo. That was

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Speaker 1: Beginning of the year, and yes it does.

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Speaker 5: The key to me for the Bengals next year will

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Speaker 1: That's wait, You're not going to win many games like that.

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Speaker 2: Tracks you do a lot of shows, you sit in

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Speaker 2: Yeah he was here that last Friday.

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Speaker 1: I think not really. I just think the execution was better.

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Speaker 5: They got inside, they got in the red zone, inside

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Speaker 5: After the game yes today, Zach Taylor admitted that he

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Speaker 2: We can't talk about the Bengals and and what they

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Speaker 5: He has a voice that's not like Jalen Davis in

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Speaker 2: All right, trags, we got to run, But I want

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Speaker 1: Three on the SPN fifteen thirty. So thanks for asking.

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Speaker 2: Dan, outstanding outstanding trag. You know you do a great

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Speaker 1: Like they are.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, Happy Holiday Gaith on Twitter, Happy Merry Christmas to

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Speaker 2: Here's the nine first one forecast. Some light sprinkles, showers

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Speaker 1: This report is sponsored by Jake Sweeney Automotive, serving the

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Speaker 7: It's red Tag time at Jake Swinny Chevrolet Together let's

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Speaker 1: All right back on the big one seven hundred WLW

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Speaker 2: Today's the twenty second, So you got the twenty second,

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Speaker 1: That sound right? That sounds right. Two and a half days.

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Speaker 2: The seven hundred WLW what do they call Christmas Spectacular

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Speaker 1: What's supposed to be on Christmas? Sixty three?

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Speaker 2: Fifty six on Christmas Eve? And then they're talking right now,

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Speaker 2: I can can I call? Can we carry that all

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Speaker 1: Day? That's a good Probably. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to venture to know. You do you

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Speaker 2: It's on behind me. Yes, it's halftime you're not missing

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Speaker 2: You know who went to Utah State? Yeah, I just

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Speaker 1: Hi? I'm doing great, Bene Barlington.

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Speaker 8: Yes, they talking to you, fellas. I love listening to

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Speaker 8: Dan Carroll, I grew up in the neighborhood of yours

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Speaker 2: No, this is the Rocky and Eddie Show. It's it's

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Speaker 8: I'm enjoying every every second of it. The reason I

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Speaker 8: Didn't come out of my neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: One point six billion dollars. When's the drawing for the

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Speaker 8: It's consecutive.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, I'm looking at it right here.

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Speaker 2: It's today seven hours, twelve minutes, forty seconds until the.

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Speaker 1: Next power ball draw. That's the time you have to

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Speaker 8: I'm talking to you, guys.

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Speaker 1: Hey back, thank you? All right? There you going to

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Speaker 2: that's right. But but back in the day it was

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Speaker 2: summit we have. I'm in the Wyoming Swim Club.

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Speaker 10: Well, there you go.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't sound as it doesn't sound as racous as the

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Speaker 2: Forest Hills. We have a good time, man, I mean

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Speaker 2: we have we have a good time too. Like it

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Speaker 2: sounds like a wild party there.

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Speaker 6: Like.

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Speaker 2: Well, up until a couple of seasons ago, we used

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Speaker 2: to have a high board too. Oh insurance and all

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Speaker 2: that they took our had. Is there any high boards

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Speaker 2: around anything?

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Speaker 1: There?

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Speaker 2: There are the outside of probably are there, Okay, but

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Speaker 2: in Ohio anymore? I don't know, man, where I grew up.

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Speaker 2: My grandparents lived in this little town called Middleports in

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Speaker 2: Meg's County up in southeast Ohio, and they had the

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Speaker 2: absolute best pool ever Middleport pool. It was it was

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Speaker 2: the world's at the time whatever largest above ground pool.

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Speaker 2: And it was above ground, but it was a massive

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Speaker 2: It was this massive concrete just mass. And they had

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Speaker 2: the highest high board that it was. How about that?

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Speaker 1: It was phenomenal. It was a cool place, the.

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Speaker 2: World's highest above ground pool. Yeah, the world's biggest middleport pool.

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Speaker 2: Well man, how about that? And we always rode my

464
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Speaker 2: cousins and I rode our bikes there, and that that

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Speaker 2: high board was intimid.

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Speaker 1: One point six billion though for the for the powerball

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Speaker 1: jack you going? Do you ever?

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Speaker 2: Do you ever play the lottery when it's My wife

469
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Speaker 2: always says, and she might be listening right now, and

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Speaker 2: I know she's got a couple of stops to make

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Speaker 2: before she goes home. She gotta get your Christmas She's

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Speaker 2: all get a powerball ticket. She gets them, and then

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Speaker 2: we pray, we pray over Oh I get oh man,

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Speaker 2: I gotta get your son or daughter gets a video

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Speaker 2: of that YouTube praying over the lottery ticket.

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Speaker 1: I can't hurt hey. If the almighty wants to wants

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Speaker 1: to look dot them with favor upon me, Oh I

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Speaker 1: love to send me that one point six billion.

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Speaker 2: I will, I will accept it and the spirit. But

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Speaker 2: it's all that's awesome. I mean, really, what do you

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Speaker 2: do with that kind of money? One point it says

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Speaker 2: the cash value is seven hundred and thirty five seven

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Speaker 2: hundred and thirty five point three million. I'll pay off

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Speaker 2: your bills and give give a big chunk away. At

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Speaker 2: that point, though, don't you take it? If they pay

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Speaker 2: it out over what it is, twenty twenty thirty years,

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Speaker 2: whatever it is, I think you take the check, don't

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Speaker 2: don't you take it because because then, I mean, I

489
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Speaker 2: know I'm never going to run on the money for

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Speaker 2: the rest of my life.

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Speaker 1: So you're this point, you're this point in the game.

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Speaker 2: You're saying take the payment. They're saying take the one

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Speaker 2: time payment. No, I'm saying, take the annual payments. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because that's still a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: We'll just in then throw it in the bank and

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Speaker 1: draw interest on it. Though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, but then you know, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm probably not going to live to be over one

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Speaker 2: hundred years old. But see, then why would you want

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Speaker 2: to take then the well, I don't know, I take

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Speaker 2: it all now, I don't know. I'd have to if

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Speaker 2: I if I won, I would sit down and seriously

503
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Speaker 2: you pray about it. Look at all the pros and cons.

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Speaker 2: You know, have me get some advice stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: If if yeah, it's a good idea.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 2: I always like to write those out. And there's a

508
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Speaker 2: big decision. Makes your pros list and the cons list,

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Speaker 2: you know, right, write a nice check Austin no more

510
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Speaker 2: because he deserves it. Would you donate? Would you just

511
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Speaker 2: out of the goodness of your heart, donate money to

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Speaker 2: I hurt?

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Speaker 1: No, not, come on if I hurt one. It's funny.

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Speaker 2: It's funny you mentioned that because I was listening today.

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Speaker 2: You don't have a heart for and and and Brian

516
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Speaker 2: Combs did a story about the Cincinnati Cyclones may may

517
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Speaker 2: wind up going on strike and he, uh, the what

518
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Speaker 2: is it EHL coast? He said, the average e HL

519
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Speaker 2: player makes about twenty grand a season. That sounds about right.

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Speaker 2: That's not much. No, but that's that's not much. And

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Speaker 2: I was thinking about that. I was thinking about that,

522
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Speaker 2: and and I was this day, and this goes back

523
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Speaker 2: several years. I was at at a golf event. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and we were playing with a number of players from

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Speaker 2: the Cyclones and the one guy I was playing with,

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Speaker 2: actually there's two Cyclones in our group, and I made

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Speaker 2: a bet with this dude. I was on a par

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Speaker 2: three closest to the pin for ten bucks. Okay, So

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Speaker 2: I beat him on the I got him closest to

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Speaker 2: the pin. Then where we play a few more holes

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Speaker 2: and he says, you want to go double or nothing

532
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Speaker 2: on that on that closest to the pin. I said, well,

533
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Speaker 2: you still haven't paid me for the first one yet.

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Speaker 2: He said, we'll go double or nothing. I said, okay,

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Speaker 2: and I beat him on that one too, and he

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Speaker 2: never paid me. At that point, he owed me twenty

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Speaker 2: bucks and he never paid me.

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Speaker 1: Now I know, why.

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Speaker 2: Do you ever go to a Cyclones games? Yeah, a

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Speaker 2: lot of Cyclones games are great. But coming up in

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Speaker 2: the top of the hour, Steve Good is going to

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Speaker 2: be here. Big story we were talking about over the weekend.

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Speaker 2: Of course, the Epstein Finals came out. Yeah, so we're

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Speaker 2: going to get his take on that. And then have

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Speaker 2: you seen some of the photos that accompanied Epstein Finals?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I saw a lot.

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Speaker 2: I saw the picture of Bill Clinton in a hot tub,

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Speaker 2: a lot of Bill Clinton relaxing in a hot tub.

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Speaker 2: I saw him working on his breastroke in the in

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Speaker 2: the swimming pool, wasn't there was where he was dressed

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Speaker 2: in some kind of Oh I think we've all seen

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Speaker 2: that one before though.

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00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: Oh was that okay? The famous blue dress? And is

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Speaker 1: that what it was? Yeah, it's in there's looks like

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Speaker 1: some traditional gears. I don't know he's it.

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Speaker 11: So one.

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking, have you seen the some of the AI

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Speaker 2: videos of Bill Clinton? Have you seen some of those?

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Speaker 11: Oh?

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00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, we can't. We can't share those on the air,

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00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 2: but I have those are those are goals? All right, Austin.

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Speaker 2: We got to get to a little traffic and weather

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Speaker 2: together here.

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Speaker 1: Don't we. There we go on seven hundred WW.

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Speaker 6: From the UCE Health Traffic Center. At u See Health,

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Speaker 6: you'll find comprehensive care that's so personal it makes your

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Speaker 6: best tomorrow possible. That's found less care for better outcomes,

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Speaker 6: Expect more at u sehealth dot com. On westbound seventy

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Speaker 6: four before col Rain, it's an accident blocking the right lane.

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Speaker 6: Traffic slow back from seventy five southbound seventy one seventy five.

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Speaker 6: It's an accident on the off ramp to southbound seventy

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Speaker 6: one at the split in Walton. Now only the right

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Speaker 6: older blocked off, so traffic can use that ramp northbound

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Speaker 6: seventy five. It's an accident on the right shoulder after

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Speaker 6: Union Center Boulevard, and one more crash on ken Wood

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Speaker 6: at Coogler Mill Road. I'm at Eazelek on news radio

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Speaker 6: seven hundred WLUB.

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Speaker 2: Here's the ninth first one forecast. Some light sprinkles, showers

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Speaker 2: maybe moving through the tri State tonight, nothing all that heavy.

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Speaker 2: We're going to have an overnight low fifties. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: forty three, not fifty six. Tomorrow's highest fifty six under

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Speaker 2: mostly cloudy skies. Tomorrow night cloudy, cool, the overnight low forty,

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Speaker 2: and then Christmas Eve we're looking at a high under

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Speaker 2: cloudy skies of fifty six and maybe even in the sixties.

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Speaker 2: For Christmas Day it is forty four at seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 2: All right, mister Pennay, I'm going to show you some

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Speaker 2: images and you tell me what do you see?

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00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 3: Looks like a butterfly? Listening to Scott's Loan Show and

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Speaker 3: this one I see a rocket ship.

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Speaker 1: A rocket ship.

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00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, last enough for the planet's loan.

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Speaker 1: Let's see and this one.

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Speaker 3: That looks like a fish swimming in a mountain pond.

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Speaker 1: It's very good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but the fish is angry because he's not listening

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Speaker 3: to Scott Sloan.

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Speaker 1: Scott Sloan, please listen responsibly. Join me, Scott Sloan. Tomorrow

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Speaker 1: morning at nine o'clock on seven hundred WLW might be

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Speaker 1: best for us to discuss some strong medications.

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Speaker 2: Black Friday Sale Limited Time Act.

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Speaker 1: Now, yelling about grass feels strange. Let's try that again,

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Speaker 1: Dan Carol, Jason Williams sitting in Freddy and Rocky and

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Speaker 1: a couple of big stories that are breaking right now.

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Speaker 2: One is the release of the Epstein files. The other

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Speaker 2: is the Hamilton County Corner. Doctor Laximi Schmarco put out

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Speaker 2: a statement today indicating that the woman who was killed

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Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety four and had the case well, the

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Speaker 2: man who was found guilty of killing the woman in

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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety four, Elwood Jones Connie Pillach dismissed the case

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Speaker 2: in the murder of Rhoda Nathan happened at a Blue

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Speaker 2: Ash hotel and just unbelievable. And then it looks like

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Speaker 2: it looks like, based on what the corner is saying,

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Speaker 2: that the prosecutor made a pretty big mistake. It certainly

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Speaker 2: looks that way. But in any case, to break down

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Speaker 2: both of these cases is our good buddy Steve Gooden

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Speaker 2: and Steve Gooden, thanks for being here in Happy holidays

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Speaker 2: and Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 1: To you, sir, Hey right back at you, Dan, thanks

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Speaker 1: for having me, Thanks for being here.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Epstein files first, and you know,

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00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 2: you know, we've got a lot a lot of photos here.

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Speaker 2: Bill Clinton turns up in a lot of these photos.

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Speaker 2: Some of these are are fairly salacious.

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Speaker 1: I guess.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how much of the Epstein files you

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Speaker 2: have seen, but what you've seen so far, it looks like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: they're out there, so.

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Speaker 1: What well, it's terrible. I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 12: This release, if anything, is just going to further all

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Speaker 12: the conspiracy theories and just keep this alive.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think this is going to be. Like

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Speaker 1: I've said before, this is kind of like the Kennedy assassination.

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Speaker 12: It will always be a question mark because there are

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Speaker 12: so many powerful people ex presidents, heads of giant corporations

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Speaker 12: that are teammate people who were on and off that island.

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Speaker 12: And the more we see of the files, the worse

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Speaker 12: it gets. So right now you can ext go on

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Speaker 12: Justice dot gov and search this latest release. So if

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Speaker 12: you remember the most of the judges who oversaw the

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Speaker 12: grand jury investigations twenty thirty years ago when when the

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Speaker 12: first child sex trafficking stuff came to life, those they

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Speaker 12: have unsealed the grand jury information and now Congress has

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Speaker 12: mandated that the rest of the files be released. They

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Speaker 12: are being released in big chunks. There's some controversy there

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Speaker 12: as one of Trump's personal lawyers is now working at

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Speaker 12: the Justice Department and is in charge of redacting some

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Speaker 12: of the information. There's obviously young young people and the

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Speaker 12: victims unfortunately keep getting younger as we see from these photographs.

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Speaker 12: You know, whose identities have to be redacted and removed.

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Speaker 12: So of course there will always be people claiming that

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Speaker 12: because a former Trump lawyer is involved, that somehow who's

658
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 12: getting favorable treatment. We don't know that to be the case,

659
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 12: but that will always be I think something out there

660
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 12: that is lingering. But you know, what we're seeing is,

661
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 12: for the first time Epstein really involved in straight up

662
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 12: child pornography with much younger children than what we had

663
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 12: seen before. I mean, I mean, what we saw before

664
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 12: was a guy who seemed to be chasing after girls

665
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 12: in their teens, which is disgusting and wrong, but it was.

666
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 12: But now we're seeing like child pornography allegations and photos

667
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 12: of him with children well under ten that it's just absolutely,

668
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,720
Speaker 12: you know, vile. And then the question, of course becomes

669
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 12: which of these people, the Bill Clintons, the Bill Gates,

670
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 12: the Donald Trumps, who knew what win when they were

671
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 12: on this island. And of course it's a totally private island.

672
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 12: It's in the Virgin Islands, but the entirety of the

673
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 12: island was a private resident so you know it really

674
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 12: it would have been very difficult for law enforcement to

675
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 12: get on there without a warrant even then, So you know,

676
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 12: it's going to be one of those things where we'll

677
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 12: probably never know totally what happened.

678
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: But the more we learn, the worse it looks.

679
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: Can uh you bring up an interesting point here, knowing

680
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 2: that this is not this island is not an American island,

681
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 2: and then you throw on top of that the release

682
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 2: we're seeing more and more younger children. Can the families

683
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 2: of those children or those children themselves now who probably

684
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 2: some of them are we grown up now?

685
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 8: Right?

686
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 2: Do they have any legal recourse and all this or

687
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 2: do these do the release of these of these files

688
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 2: allow them to now turn around and sue someone or

689
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 2: have any kind of uh legal uh legal standing on anything?

690
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 12: Well, they would if there was anything left to get.

691
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 12: I mean, it's gonna be kind of hard. I mean,

692
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 12: that's why they went after this galas Maxwell lady. I

693
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 12: mean she's I mean, obviously Epstein is dead, uh, you know,

694
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 12: committed suicide in prison. There will always be people, I

695
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 12: think thinking that he uh was murdered. I mean, we

696
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 12: don't know what the what the truth is. But that's

697
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 12: another part of this that's always going to be a

698
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 12: question mark and lend itself to conspiracy theories, but no, absolutely,

699
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 12: a lot of those young folks who are now adults,

700
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 12: almost all of them, I think would have to be

701
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 12: adults by now, would have some grounds to sue. Most

702
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 12: states now, and in the federal system there really is

703
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 12: no statute of limitations on child sex abuse, so they

704
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 12: could still sue, but it's just unclear what assets are

705
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 12: still there after the fans got done with him and

706
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 12: with Maxwell. You know, really where his estate is, you know,

707
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 12: it's not really you know clear what's there and what

708
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 12: hasn't already been seized and taken. So yes, they've got

709
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 12: a right to sue, but where they would go with it,

710
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 12: I don't know the bringing criminal charges they can and

711
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 12: died a dead man. But one of the things that's

712
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 12: so heartbreaking about is you do have in this new

713
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 12: tranch of documents, you have a complaint made back I

714
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 12: think all the way back in nineteen ninety eight I

715
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 12: believe it was, or not even ninety six. I can't recall.

716
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,240
Speaker 12: We're one of his former employees. One of Epstein's former

717
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 12: employees said, look, there's child pornography here, and the way

718
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 12: he's looking and acting around my daughter is scaring me.

719
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 12: I'm not working here anymore. Someone please look into this.

720
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 12: It was a letter she wrote to the FBI, and

721
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 12: it looks as though there was absolutely no action taken.

722
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 12: So you know, it's you know, for these we don't

723
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 12: know how many victims there were. I mean, we know

724
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 12: what he ultimately, you know, plug guilty to is probably

725
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 12: the tip of the iceberg. You know, he's sitting there

726
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 12: in a US territory, but on a private island with

727
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,919
Speaker 12: no real law enforcement, flogged back and forth and really

728
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 12: able to do whatever he wanted to do. And of course,

729
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 12: for me, the tantalyzing you questions will always be was

730
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,919
Speaker 12: he somehow or another blackmailing these wealthy and powerful people

731
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 12: who are on and off the island, who either had

732
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 12: knowledge or were somehow implicated. We'll probably never know that truth,

733
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 12: but that's always what Epstein's going to stand for in

734
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 12: people's mind. It's going to be kind of shorthand for

735
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 12: you know, very powerful people potentially being black.

736
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think you might have just answered

737
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: this question.

738
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 2: But it's as far as I'm concerned, and I think

739
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 2: a lot of people in this case, I don't care

740
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 2: about the pictures. I don't care about the you know,

741
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 2: the files and all that stuff. All all I care

742
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 2: all I care about is if there were individuals who

743
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 2: engaged in this contact with this this uh with who

744
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 2: engage with young kids, in this activity with young kids,

745
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 2: then they need to be held accountable.

746
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: Brought to justice, brought to justice.

747
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 2: And Ton absolutely, does this get us any further down

748
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 2: that road in your opinion?

749
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: Well, you know, it could.

750
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 12: I mean, it could potentially open something up there. And

751
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 12: I'll just tell you though, I mean, I was on

752
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 12: back when I was a prosecutor here in Hamilton County.

753
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 12: I was actually on the child pornography task Force, and

754
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 12: I learned firstand those cases can.

755
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: Be very hard to bring.

756
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 12: It's hard to get cooperating witnesses, it's hard to get

757
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 12: people who have really strong memories of what happened as children.

758
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 12: Even child pornography can be difficult to uh, you know,

759
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 12: to prosecute, particularly in the federal law, because it actually

760
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,240
Speaker 12: has to show not just children in a state of undress,

761
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 12: it has to show children engaged in some sort of

762
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 12: sexual contact. So there's a big spectrum of stuff that

763
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 12: can be pretty terrible and perverted, but almost really hard

764
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 12: to prosecute. So it's still tough you've still got to

765
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 12: have people who come forward as live witnesses, who have

766
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 12: specific recollections. That's one of the reasons these people are

767
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 12: so vile who prey on children, because they know that

768
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 12: a lot of people don't believe them, or they lack

769
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 12: the vocabulary to really articulate what happened to them. Some

770
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 12: of them don't even totally understand what's happening because they

771
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 12: have no context for it. So it's you know, prosecuting

772
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 12: these people can be very, very, very difficult, particularly when

773
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 12: the time has passed, so.

774
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't help.

775
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 12: Perhaps it does, but it's it's still going to require

776
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 12: live witnesses to come forward. And again, you know, he's dead,

777
00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 12: so the odds of anyone being him being prosecuted is

778
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 12: really tough. And everyone else is very lawyered up and

779
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 12: very distant. There are people, you know, like the folks

780
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 12: like Alan Dershowitz and Bill Clinton, the people that we

781
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 12: now see are there over and over in these photographs,

782
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 12: clearly much more friendly with Epstein than they ever let on.

783
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 12: Everyone has put a lot of distance between them over

784
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 12: the years. I mean, there's the photo that's circulating with

785
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 12: the Clinton in the pool with Maxwell, and then they

786
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 12: all look like they know each other pretty pretty well.

787
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 1: So I was surprised to see Well and Michael Jackson.

788
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 2: Michael unbelievable. So, Steve Good, let me ask you a

789
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 2: shift shifting gears here to to the local story. Now,

790
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 2: as a former prosecutor, can you speak to the honesty

791
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 2: and integrity with which Joe Dieters ran that office when

792
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 2: he was in charge of that office?

793
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 11: Oh my god, Well that's a that's a you can

794
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 11: on it, but I'll do it. Look, I'll just be

795
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 11: I'll just cut right to the chase. Look, I was

796
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 11: privileged to work there early in my career for five years.

797
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 11: Was in the fellow me the vision for.

798
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 1: A lot of that time.

799
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 12: I'm telling you everybody that worked there when I was there,

800
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 12: you know, the the idea that someone would frame someone

801
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 12: or let someone go to prisident based upon a sloppy investigation.

802
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: Is just absurd.

803
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 12: Everybody there was working over time to make sure and

804
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 12: bending over backwards to make sure that they were fair.

805
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 12: In fact, I remember when I was helping run the

806
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 12: grand jury briefly how angry police officers were at us

807
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 12: sometimes because we wouldn't indict people because we were giving

808
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 12: people the benefit of the doubt, you know, even then.

809
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 12: So it was extraordinarily frustrating for me to hear about

810
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 12: this new prosecutor basically kind of throwing the you know,

811
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 12: the old team under the bus. It's just not the

812
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 12: way it's supposed to be. And I and look, I

813
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 12: know Mark Pete Meyer personally. He was one of Joe's

814
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 12: main assistants. Who was you know, who was actually involved

815
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,240
Speaker 12: in the Elwood Jones prosecution. And he's just somebody who

816
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 12: a lot of us younger lawyers considered a mentor, a

817
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 12: person who absolutely you know, a working class background. He

818
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 12: wasn't this elite kind of person that they make him

819
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 12: sound here in some of this press coverage. The idea

820
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 12: that he would you know, a person with a real conscience.

821
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 12: The idea that he would preside over something where someone

822
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 12: would go and sit on death row with without any

823
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 12: kind of evidence or you know, hide evidence and so

824
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 12: forth as being accused here is just absurd. And I

825
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 12: think what came out today really underlines that these folks

826
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 12: had a great case against Elwood Jones. My personal opinion

827
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 12: is that he killed that woman and was being was

828
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 12: correctly brought to justice. There were no other viable suspects

829
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 12: that I ever heard about, and just trying to hang

830
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 12: everything on this forensic evidence that now turned out to

831
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 12: be not what we thought in regards to the hepatitis diagnosis,

832
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 12: I mean, and the whole thing's certain. I mean, look

833
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 12: as I understand that. I mean, well, first, back in

834
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 12: nineteen ninety four, there were almost no DNA testing, you know,

835
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 12: was being done in cases because the technology existed, but

836
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 12: it was prohibitively expensive back then. So the idea that

837
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 12: there was no is not some scandal, but there was

838
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 12: never any DNA in cases that far back. So you

839
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 12: had to look at things like, well, he had a

840
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 12: defensive bite wound, he had the woman's necklace in his toolbox,

841
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 12: he had a key and kind of access to room.

842
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 12: You know, those are the sorts of things that you

843
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 12: looked at and that the jury, by the way, found compelling,

844
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 12: not just the prosecutor. Twelve people sat and heard this

845
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 12: trial and they were convinced beyond a reasonable doubt. So

846
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 12: you know, I think this is just a sad thing,

847
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 12: and I think this is a case where the prosecutor

848
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 12: and some of the other folks involved, they're putting this

849
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,720
Speaker 12: kind of ideology over the facts, you know, the ideas

850
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 12: that you know, it's a corrupt, dirty system, you know,

851
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 12: but that's not the case.

852
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I mean you kind of touched on what

853
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 2: on my question there than Steve was like, you know,

854
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 2: I get it. This is a Democrat prosecutor. Now Joe

855
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 2: Dieter's Republican Republican you know, control the prosecutor's officer years.

856
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: None of that really should matter whatever, So.

857
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 2: Why why does why did Pilich take the extraordinary step

858
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 2: of then making this claim against against Deaders and his

859
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: team when like that, it seems like that was completely

860
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: unnecessary to even say that, Like you could say, hey,

861
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 2: from what my my research and what my team has

862
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 2: looked at this case, and we decided that there was

863
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 2: not enough evidence there to convict this person. Done, end

864
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 2: of story, and here's the decision or whatever. Why take

865
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 2: that extraordinary step then to then just absolutely throw Joe

866
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 2: Deeters and his his folks under the bus when you know,

867
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 2: is there some kind of political under underneath underneath all

868
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 2: this play for her or what?

869
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 12: Well, you know, I don't know what's in her heart

870
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 12: and mind on this. I mean, obviously I don't really

871
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 12: know her very well or hardly at all. Really, yeh,

872
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 12: can art you just say? It sure looks that way though,

873
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 12: I'll tell you, you know, it's so funny. I mean, yes,

874
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 12: when I worked there when Joe was prosecutor, obviously he's

875
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 12: a Republican and he ran for office, but we really

876
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 12: didn't think of ourselves as political actors. I mean we

877
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 12: really didn't. I mean, he had people working there of

878
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 12: all political stripes. There were Democrats there, there were independents there,

879
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,959
Speaker 12: there are people all across the spectrum, and we really

880
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 12: didn't think.

881
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 1: Of it that way.

882
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 12: I mean, we thought we really were concerned. You know,

883
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 12: we're human beings, well as prosecutors are human beings.

884
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 11: You know.

885
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 12: It wasn't just all about getting the conviction. It was

886
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 12: about trying to do the right thing. There were times

887
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 12: when we would reduce cases because we thought it was

888
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 12: the right thing to do. I personally was someone who

889
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 12: had great sympathy for people who were drug addicted. In

890
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 12: the cases I handled, A had zero sympathy for the

891
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 12: drug dealers, but for the people who were addicted, we

892
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 12: would often bend over backwards to try to make sure

893
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 12: that they had a treatment option or something. So this

894
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 12: idea that it was just this assembly line of sending

895
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 12: poor people to jail just for the sake of doing it.

896
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 12: I mean, that's wrong, and I think that's what's informing

897
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 12: some of these public comments. And I think she's set

898
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 12: the city up or the county rather for an enormous lawsuit,

899
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 12: because she's just saying, as you noted, she's just saying, look,

900
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 12: there were some evidence we didn't know about her evidence

901
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 12: we wish we had. She actually said, I don't I'm

902
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 12: not convinced he did it, and I don't think she's

903
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 12: reading those files the same way I am.

904
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Speaker 1: And so.

905
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 12: We'll see what happens. But the probably more litigation of

906
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 12: the taxpayer's writing more texts.

907
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: All right, Steve Good, we got we got a run,

908
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: but thank you for the time. I appreciate it.

909
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 2: Merry Christmas to you and yours, and all the best

910
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 2: for a great new year, and we will be talking

911
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 2: again before too long. Hey, Mary, Christmas, guys, Christmas right,

912
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 2: you and the family, see Steve Good, and thank you

913
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Speaker 6: to Twelfth Street. I'm at EAZELLEKA News the radio seven

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Speaker 1: Here's the ninth first one forecast.

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Speaker 2: Some light sprinkles, showers maybe moving through the tri state tonight,

928
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Speaker 2: nothing all that heavy. We're going to have an overnight

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Speaker 2: low fifties. I'm sorry, forty three, not fifty six. Tomorrow's

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Speaker 2: high at fifty six under mostly cloudy skies. Tomorrow night cloudy, cool,

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Speaker 2: the overnight low forty and then Christmas Eve we're looking

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Speaker 2: at a high under cloudy skies of fifty six and

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Speaker 2: maybe even in the sixties.

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Speaker 2: It is forty four at seven hundred WLW spreading holidays.

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Speaker 13: Ye, the way I spread mayonnaise on a b LT

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Speaker 13: thick and sloppy ho ho ho from seven hundred.

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Speaker 14: Kenny Schnek. Winter temps are upon us w.

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Speaker 1: L W, Dan Carrol, Jason Williams hanging out for Eddie

941
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Speaker 1: and Rocky. Austin Elmore running the big board in the

942
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Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW command center. Austin, let's go ahead and

943
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Speaker 1: open the phone lines.

944
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Speaker 2: I don't think we have any more guests for like

945
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 2: an hour from now, so we it's just me and

946
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 2: you see I'm down there.

947
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: I'm down the Epstein Epstein rabbit hole. Now we talked

948
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: to you.

949
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 2: Are you scrolling through some photos there? Photos? Stories? It's

950
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 2: just yeah, it's yeah. The one, the one that shocked

951
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 2: me was Bill Clinton standing there with Michael Jackson. Yes,

952
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 2: and then you got Diana Ross here.

953
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

954
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I would not suggest that Diana Ross I

955
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 2: mean right, well, I mean but see the Diana Ross

956
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 2: pete because you're like, wait, what yeah? That that that

957
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 2: I think probably almost that's a shock. But see, but

958
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 2: see that I think almost tells the bigger picture here

959
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 2: of just how deep and far and why.

960
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 1: Does this thing go? If Diana Ross is in there,

961
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: who else is involved here? I don't know.

962
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean that this is a stratosphere, a

963
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 2: world that I will never inhabit. It's hard to compose

964
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 2: win the one point six billion, But even then you're

965
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 2: you're still not really But I just I just think

966
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 2: that their entire way of looking at life, living life

967
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 2: is different than than normal people. Well, and it's interesting

968
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 2: that we're talking about this because I was I was

969
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 2: on YouTube last night and you'd like to watch news

970
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 2: clips and stuff like that.

971
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Speaker 1: Did you go down the rabbit hole? Well? I got

972
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 1: down the I got down the U.

973
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Speaker 2: I got down the PBS front Line rabbit hole on

974
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 2: front Line is now when it comes to PBS not

975
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 2: not a huge huge fan, but I am a huge

976
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 2: fan of the frontline investigative work. And they did a

977
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 2: it's whatever you know, it was on a on a

978
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Speaker 2: stream or something. The guy's name that narrates those gosh,

979
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 2: I mean how about that? I mean, people would kill

980
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 2: for pipes like that. Well, just listen to his voice alone. Maybe,

981
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 2: But I ended up watching one on Made Off and

982
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 2: it's the concept of it is just the just being

983
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 2: that you thought you just you're you think you're untouchable

984
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,720
Speaker 2: and that you can do You get in this world

985
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 2: of wealth and you've been able to do this forever

986
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 2: and ever and ever, and then you just think you're untouchable.

987
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 2: And I'm sure that's the same elements of this that

988
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 2: was with money with him in a Ponzi scheme, and

989
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 2: here this was with sex and sex trafficking, and you

990
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 2: just you get into that world and you throw the

991
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 2: money piece in there, and that you're protected by all

992
00:50:55,400 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 2: these celebrities and powerful people in politics and business, and

993
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 2: it is, like you said, there again, it's hard. It's

994
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 2: a world that is hard to comprehend.

995
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 11: Uh.

996
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: Or maybe you think you can you can, you can

997
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: pay lawyers so much money that they'll they'll keep they'll

998
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: find ways to keep you from prison. Maybe, I mean,

999
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: I I have no idea, I have no idea what

1000
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 1: what what these people think? But the other thing, and

1001
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 1: I want to thank Steve Gooden? How happened to Steve Gooden?

1002
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: Is uh?

1003
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 2: I mean that that guy is I love listening when

1004
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 2: he's on our show, when he's on other shows. I

1005
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 2: never turned the radio off when he's on because and

1006
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 2: what he said about Joe Dieters and the way Joe

1007
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:45,720
Speaker 2: Dieters ran his office and the fact that Joe Dieters

1008
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 2: had to uh in a sense, take off his robe

1009
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 2: from the Supreme Court bench to come down and defend

1010
00:51:56,239 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 2: himself right against the current prosecutor Pillach because she sought

1011
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 2: an extraordinary step or but you know what, good on him. Yeah,

1012
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 2: you know, he believed, truly believed that. You know, this

1013
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 2: was a time where he needed to speak to the

1014
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 2: media because you know, Supreme Court justices rarely due, but

1015
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 2: this was one of those times. And you know, Dan,

1016
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 2: you you covered news and politics for many many years

1017
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 2: in this town. I covered politics for several years for

1018
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 2: the Inquiry. Never never, and I covered Joe Deeters. You

1019
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:33,240
Speaker 2: covered Joe Deeters. Never did I hear of anything along

1020
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 2: these lines. And know people in this office and you

1021
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 2: knew people in his office and you know people around

1022
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 2: him and all the political folks like never did ever,

1023
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 2: was there ever any inkling of a whiff of like

1024
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 2: the Joe Deeters would do something like this? He be

1025
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 2: and ag end I'm saying this from my own personal

1026
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 2: you know, my own personal experience of reporting. And you know,

1027
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 2: you you were talking about it as well. And it's

1028
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 2: just like, and you know, I'm not sitting here like

1029
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 2: you know, I'm just I'm just again, I'm speaking from

1030
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 2: my own experience of reporting, and I've never I've heard

1031
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 2: people criticize Joe Eaters. Sure, I've never heard. I've never

1032
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 2: heard anything like that. And you would think with the

1033
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 2: amount of people that you between you and I, that

1034
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 2: we've covered through the years, you would have caught some

1035
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 2: kind of wind of something, Oh, you know, this case here,

1036
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 2: in this case there, and never.

1037
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 1: But Joe Dieters, he wrote.

1038
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 2: He wrote a letter to Connie Pillach on December seventeenth,

1039
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 2: after she announced that she was going to release him

1040
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 2: from prison and dismiss with prejudice the case against him,

1041
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 2: And here's part of what he wrote to her. He wrote,

1042
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 2: had you chosen to release Jones after thirty years of

1043
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 2: incarceration based on mercy or policy considerations, that would have

1044
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 2: been your prerogative as an election that official. Reasonable people

1045
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 2: could disagree, but it would have been within your authority.

1046
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 2: What is unforgivable is attempting to justify that decision through

1047
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 2: falsehoods and by maligning the reputations of dedicated public servants.

1048
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 2: And that's that's what bothers him more than anything else,

1049
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:25,240
Speaker 2: is the suggestion that for political purpose or any other reason,

1050
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 2: that he would cut corners short cut a case, Uh

1051
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 2: sought to do an injustice by having an innocent man

1052
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 2: go to prison for whatever reason. That's and that is

1053
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 2: not something that Joe Dieters would ever Yeah, I think

1054
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 2: ever consider he said it. Well, then we asked Steve

1055
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 2: Goodin about it. He, I mean, Joe Dieters in his

1056
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 2: letters said it said it like reasonable people can disagree,

1057
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 2: and that what what and you know, hey, uh, this

1058
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 2: prosecutor has reviewed the case and sees a hey that

1059
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 2: I don't the the I don't see enough evidence here

1060
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 2: or whatever to you know, this should be dropped. He

1061
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 2: should be released from prison. Okay, but I don't understand.

1062
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 2: I don't get that. And again I'm I you know,

1063
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 2: I know local politics. And that's the part about it

1064
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 2: that I'm kind of like, I don't like, I don't

1065
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 2: understand what that step of saying that has to do

1066
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 2: with with anything here, right, because you're right, like you look,

1067
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 2: you said you like she said all the reasons why

1068
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 2: you know, hey, based upon the evidence or lack thereof

1069
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 2: or whatever you know looking at the case, Okay, but

1070
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 2: then to take that extra step, you're like huh and

1071
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 2: I and again, I look at these things a lot

1072
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 2: of times through especially a Democrat prosecutor and a Republican

1073
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 2: former prosecutor now high a Supreme Court judge, like what

1074
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 2: what would what would cause all that to you know,

1075
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 2: that that step to be taken in all this well,

1076
00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 2: and then the other thing is had Connie Pillat, as

1077
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 2: she said, conducted this exhaustive review. And I would think

1078
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 2: if I were in her position and I was considering

1079
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 2: releasing this man from prison, I would at least contact

1080
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 2: Joe Deeters and say, look, I've been looking at this case.

1081
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 1: I've got X, Y and Z. I know you were

1082
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: the prosecutor at the time.

1083
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 2: I would, and I would, I would want my ideas

1084
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 2: to withstand his scrutiny, because you know what, if he

1085
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 2: made a mistake, if he came up and said, you

1086
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Speaker 2: know what, we didn't consider this, or we made it,

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00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 2: we overlooked this, or there is something it is not

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00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 2: right here, then then if he can find a way

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Speaker 2: to be in agreement with him and set an innocent

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00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 2: man free, then Joe Dieters is the kind of guy

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Speaker 2: who would do that. But if if it's you, and

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00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 2: you are making this kind of decision that is going

1093
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 2: to change this man's life, in the life of his

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Speaker 2: family and everyone who knows him, and not only his family,

1095
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 2: but the victims family as well. Don't you want to

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00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 2: be right about it? Don't you want your ideas to

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00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 2: be able to withstand scrutiny? Yeah, And and why she

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00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 2: couldn't even contact Joe Dieters or Pete Meyer and say, look,

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Speaker 2: here's what I'm working with. Tell me where I'm wrong.

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00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 2: And if they can't find a hole in that, then

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00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 2: that that to me tells me that that you are

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Speaker 2: doing justice, which she claims is she wants she wants

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00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 2: to do justice. And this is well said Dan, And

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Speaker 2: then this is separate from all that, like I and

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00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 2: again this seems like a very extraordinary circumstance case here

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00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 2: in the sense that I didn't even realize until all

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Speaker 2: this came out. And again, I my my, my expertise

1108
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 2: are reporting is more on the political stuff and now

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00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 2: I do sports, but like you know, not so much

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00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 2: on the criminal justice side. So I'm always try to

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Speaker 2: careful on whatever I.

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Speaker 1: Say on that. But I only the piece.

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Speaker 2: I didn't really even realize, like a prosecutor, it doesn't

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00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 2: matter who the prosecutor is, a local prosecutor in the

1115
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 2: state of Ohio then has the ability to basically free

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Speaker 2: someone from.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even know that. I agree, I did.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know.

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00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: I didn't know that power existed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I always just say, I like, the governor has

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Speaker 2: the ability to grant clemency to you know, anyone who's

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Speaker 2: in prison. But you understand that. But I didn't realize

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Speaker 2: a local prosecutor. I know that's not what it's called here,

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00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 2: that that's not the term whatever, but essentially that's the

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Speaker 2: same thing, right or No.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a I I did not know that.

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Speaker 2: I mean with the case was tried in Hamilton County.

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Speaker 2: She's the Hamilton County prosecutor. She dismissed the case. So

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Speaker 2: so I don't I did not know. But then wouldn't

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00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 2: that jo wouldn't wouldn't be to you to go back

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean again, it's fascinating. That was gonna

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00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 2: be my next question if we would have had I'm

1134
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Speaker 2: on that pot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we didn't have time, but anyway, we'll throw it

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Speaker 1: out there other stuff too. Phone line are going to

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Speaker 1: be open the next half hour five to one, three, seven, four, nine, seven,

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Speaker 1: eight hundred the Big one Dan and Jason and for

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Speaker 1: Eddie and Rocky on seven hundred WW.

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Speaker 6: at UCHealth dot com. Only one accident out there right now.

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Speaker 6: It's on Hunt Road over at Plainfield Road southbound seventy five,

1145
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 6: though it's construction work between Ronald Reagan Highway in the

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Speaker 6: Norwood lateral right now. A six minute delay as a

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Speaker 6: result of that. Back from Shepherd Lane. More stop and

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Speaker 6: go traffic on southbound seventy five between Western Avenue and

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00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 6: Fort Washington Way up to a five minute delay, and

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Speaker 6: northbound seventy one seventy five a six minute delay from

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Speaker 6: Burlington Pike up towards the Brent Spence Bridge. I met

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Speaker 6: he on news radio seven hundred WLUBD.

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Speaker 2: Here's the ninth first warning forecast. Some light sprinkles, showers

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Speaker 2: maybe moving through the tri State tonight. Nothing all that heavy.

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01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 2: We're going to have an overnight low fifties. I'm sorry,

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01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 2: forty three, not fifty six. Tomorrow's highest fifty six under

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Speaker 2: mostly cloudy skies. Tomorrow night cloudy cool, the overnight low forty,

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Speaker 2: and then Christmas Eve we're looking at a high under

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Speaker 2: cloudy skies of fifty six in maybe even in the sixties.

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Speaker 2: For Christmas Day it is forty four at seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 13: Is it true Tom Brenneman names his pants and his

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Speaker 13: favorite is called Percy?

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Speaker 12: That is not true.

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Speaker 13: Is it true that as a child Tom Brenneman hit

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Speaker 13: under the covers and listen to the radio and he's

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Speaker 13: incredible hulk jammies. Well, that's one of those yes and

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Speaker 13: those sort of things. It's a true Tom Brenneman bus.

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Speaker 13: These buntons to start your day, right, That's true and

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Speaker 13: I'm proud of it.

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Speaker 1: Join me for the latest news, traffic from Chuck Ingram,

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Speaker 1: weather from Jennifer catch Mark, plenty of laughs and a

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Speaker 1: whole lot more.

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Speaker 13: Come Brenhaman tomorrow morning at five am on seven hundred

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Speaker 2: Dan Carroll and Jason, Williams, Freddy and Rocky Man. It's

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Speaker 2: for the first two hours of flowing right by yea,

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Speaker 2: it has So we are on hour number three of

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Speaker 2: today's show, and we get to come back tomorrow and

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Speaker 2: Wednesday and Friday and do it again.

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Speaker 1: Settle end. How about that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, get comfortable. We're gonna be here for a while.

1186
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Speaker 2: We're like, we're like those uh, those bad house guests

1187
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Speaker 2: that that won't ever releave. We got some fun segments,

1188
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 2: we got some we've got a variety of things planned.

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Speaker 2: All right, have your people talk to my people. Absolutely,

1190
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Speaker 2: we'll get that squared away in the meantime from our people.

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Speaker 2: Call in right now five one, three, seven, four nine

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Speaker 2: of one thousand and one, eight hundred, the big one.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Mason. We'll say hey to Brett. Do

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Speaker 2: we got Steve and west Union Brett seven hundred.

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Speaker 1: Wiw Hey, guys, how you doing today? All right? Brett?

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Speaker 1: What's up? Hey?

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Speaker 10: Well, first of all, I just want to say that

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Speaker 10: I did have some dealings with Joe Dieters in the

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Speaker 10: past and with a grand jury, and he's probably one

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Speaker 10: of the most solid law enforcement individuals I've ever ran

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Speaker 10: across my life. So I just want to make sure

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Speaker 10: I said that and in conjunction with what you guys

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01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 10: were talking about. But what I thought about today is

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01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 10: is the Epstein thing actually a team of people. I

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01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 10: was part of a team of people that worked on

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Speaker 10: the Epstein files and things many years ago when he

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Speaker 10: right after he got out of jail in Florida.

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Speaker 1: But did you guys know that you hold on stop

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01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 1: right there before you any further a. So you worked

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Speaker 1: on the Epstein files in what sort of capacity I worked?

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Speaker 10: I was very good friends with with a guy named

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01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 10: Isaac Caapi. Isaac Cappy was a Hollywood actor who came

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01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 10: out and started naming people on the Epstein list that

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01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 10: he knew of people that had yeah, you know, had

1215
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 10: you know been in his circles, had you know, committed

1216
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 10: crimes against you know, young children and things, and uh

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01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 10: he uh. He suicided himself off of a overpass by

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Speaker 10: the way of Phoenix several years ago.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, are you are you your capacity is as a lawyer?

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01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 10: No, my capacity was as a kind of a special investigator.

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01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 10: Like for example, yeah, like I went to I went

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Speaker 10: to New Hope, Pennsylvania to see if Maxwell was staying there.

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Speaker 1: Things like that.

1224
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Speaker 10: But she has a submarine license. What now, Julane Gerlaine

1225
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Speaker 10: Maxwell has a submarine license.

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Speaker 2: I read yesterday where she's a licensed helicopter pilot. Also, huh, yep.

1227
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Speaker 2: I saw at the controls of a hell.

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Speaker 10: Hug yep and submarine and they had a small submarine

1229
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 10: that they used a little Saint James. They had a

1230
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Speaker 10: submarine docking area. And this is this is something you

1231
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 10: guys can look up. It's a known thing.

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Speaker 1: How many people know how to drive a submarine? Right?

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Speaker 10: And everybody talks about the flights onto the island, right, Well,

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01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 10: it would be pretty easy to show up at a

1235
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Speaker 10: submarine with nobody knowing about it, wouldn't it?

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Speaker 2: So Epstein if she picked them up someplace else. Here's

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01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 2: the thing I have not read a ton. I'll be honest,

1238
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Speaker 2: I have not read a ton about the whole Epstein

1239
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 2: thing period.

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Speaker 1: I just I and I said it before.

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Speaker 2: All I want is the people who were engaging in

1242
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Speaker 2: this activity with these young people, if if they if

1243
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 2: if they harmed young people, I want them brought to justice.

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Speaker 1: To me, that's pretty much. Yes.

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Speaker 2: Hey, look, rich people, if they fly around, they have

1246
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Speaker 2: their fun, they do what they want. That fine and

1247
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 2: dandy all day long. But if you're you're committing crimes,

1248
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 2: then you need to be brought to justice. And to

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01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 2: me that that's where it ends. But I did not

1250
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 2: know you, right, But they had a submarine.

1251
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Speaker 10: Yeah, And part of the problem is is that what

1252
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 10: a lot of people don't realize, you guys, is that

1253
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 10: there are things that go on that the normal papas

1254
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 10: doesn't understand. So we talk about these people committing crimes voluntarily.

1255
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Speaker 1: Unfortunately they do.

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Speaker 10: There was a lot of blacknail going on and a

1257
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 10: lot of things going on good with unwilling participants, so

1258
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Speaker 10: to speak. And if you guys look up sculpamine. Sculpamine

1259
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 10: is something from South America. It's derived from a flower,

1260
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 10: from a plant. The people in Colombia are scared the

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01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 10: death of it. But sculpamine is something that they can

1262
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 10: blow in your face. They can very easily administer it.

1263
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 10: You remember nothing, you remember zero, and you do exactly

1264
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Speaker 10: as you're told. There's instances where they do it to

1265
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 10: a guy, take him to his house. They bring up

1266
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 10: a moving van. He stands there and watches them move

1267
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 10: out all the stuff. The neighbors are like, hey, you moving. Yep,

1268
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 10: they do whatever you do, whatever you are told. That

1269
01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 10: sounds like you remember zero. Yeah, that sounds devil dust.

1270
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 10: It's called devil dust down in Columbia.

1271
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 10: So you know you might have people, Yeah, you might

1273
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 10: have people that are you know, on the up and

1274
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 10: up and they actually are drugged, right, and they're putting

1275
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 10: in certain compromising positions, film videos, whatever, and then you.

1276
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 1: Know they wake up. I didn't do that. Yeah you did?

1277
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 1: How about that?

1278
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 10: So that's something people need to look at too. Yeah,

1279
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 10: there's a lot of different facis. But basically the Epstein

1280
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 10: thing was to lure in people that were, you know, pedophiles,

1281
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 10: not pedophiles get things on. He was basically massade. Julaane

1282
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 10: Maxwell's father was Massad. He actually had a mysterious death

1283
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 10: on a yacht ride by himself, but the Prime Minister

1284
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 10: of Israel also said that her father had done more

1285
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 10: for Israel than most people had ever done. So there's

1286
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 10: a lot of politics involved, a lot of massade, a

1287
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 10: lot of different things. But yeah, yeah, it's it's it's

1288
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 10: it's kind of crazy.

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Speaker 2: All right, Greg, Well, you've got something, You've got a

1290
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 2: ton of information there, and you told me something I

1291
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 2: had not heard before. So I thank you very much

1292
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 2: for that phone call. So Brett fam Mason is unloading

1293
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 2: the big information there. What do you think about that?

1294
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 2: What's that stuff they blow in your face? Devil dust?

1295
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 2: Is that devil dust? I don't think I want any

1296
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 2: part of that. So, like, I don't know, let's go

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Speaker 2: to West Union and say hey to Steve, Steve seven

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01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 2: hundred wlwyd Jason, Christmas, you got Christmas brother?

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Speaker 1: What's going on?

1300
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 10: That was hard to follow.

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01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 2: That's why I wanted to get to you, Steve. Dan's asking, man, like,

1302
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 2: let's get on, Steve. I mean that that guy said

1303
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 2: a lot of fantastic stuff. So it's it's a dust.

1304
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 2: They blow it in your face and then all of

1305
01:07:56,720 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 2: a sudden, you can't you can't remember anything, and you're

1306
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 2: but you're totally coherent, and you're and and then you're

1307
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 2: like hypnotized, so like fentanyl. I don't know, I don't

1308
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 2: I don't you know, the drugging, stay away.

1309
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 1: From the cover.

1310
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1311
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 1: But it sounds a little bit spook.

1312
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:21,640
Speaker 11: Anyway, what I got is.

1313
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 4: The topping, the topping, what that's just this the the

1314
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 4: guy they let.

1315
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:33,679
Speaker 2: Loose Jones Okay, all right, Elwood Jones the topic.

1316
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 4: And Connie Pillage the judge, you let him go?

1317
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 1: No, Connie Pillage is the prosecutor. Okay, whoever who is

1318
01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 1: the judge? Let him go? Uh uh, I'm gonna have

1319
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 1: to look that up. Well, you can let you know later,

1320
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 1: but I got it here. The judge on the case, good, good.

1321
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:03,480
Speaker 4: Joe is amazing, and his office is amazing. It's impeccable

1322
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:10,799
Speaker 4: and untoughtable. Now this judge, let this guy go. Merry Christmas. Okay,

1323
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 4: that's the biggest Christmas present this man will ever get.

1324
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 4: I don't know how old he is, but I sure

1325
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:21,560
Speaker 4: wish that he would go as far away from Cincinnati

1326
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 4: as he possibly can. Change his name, and if his

1327
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 4: debauchery shows up again, I think street justice is going

1328
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 4: to take care of all.

1329
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 1: Right, Well, Steve, you're done. I mean we can't we can,

1330
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 1: we can't advocate for that kind of stuff. But now

1331
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 1: some people are going to take things too far. I mean,

1332
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 1: this is this is a legitimate issue.

1333
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 2: Though, yes, this guy was sentenced, found guilty by a

1334
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:53,600
Speaker 2: jury of his peers, has been up and down the

1335
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 2: appeals process, and this prosecutor comes in and sees fit

1336
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 2: to dismiss the case and turn this guy into a

1337
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 2: free man. Which we were discussing before the last price.

1338
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 2: We did not know that prosecutors had that had that

1339
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 2: power to do that. So that's you know that that

1340
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:16,680
Speaker 2: that'll be our homework, as Simon is, to learn more

1341
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 2: about that. Yes, all right, let's go to Nicole Nicole

1342
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:29,680
Speaker 2: seven hundred w w Hey Nicole, Nicole going once? Oh

1343
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 2: so okay, well then you put her up there? All right,

1344
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 2: all right, what do you got?

1345
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 1: What do you got there? Big guy?

1346
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to change the subject because I legitimately

1347
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 2: wanted to ask you, but I think we do need

1348
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 2: a little lighten it up a little bit.

1349
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 1: Uh, you get your Christmas shopping done? Yes? Yes?

1350
01:10:55,240 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 2: Well maybe yes, I thought I think we my wife

1351
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 2: and I, my wife and I, we do our We

1352
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 2: do our and we have done this ever since our

1353
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 2: kids have been little.

1354
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 1: One day a year. Uh, we we go out and

1355
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 1: we do our shop.

1356
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:17,679
Speaker 2: We don't buy stuff online, although she does now she'll

1357
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 2: buy some stuff ahead of time.

1358
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 1: She does she do the Amazon Prime thing. She yeah,

1359
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 1: she does that. Yeah, I don't buy stuff online, but

1360
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 1: she but we were. We save money all year and

1361
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 1: then one day a year I agree to go shopping

1362
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 1: with her, and so I I know when it's going

1363
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 1: to happen. I can mentally prepare. Yes, we're out. We

1364
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 1: go out one day and we're in the store. We're

1365
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 1: in the stores all day, all day. We got our

1366
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:46,639
Speaker 1: list of stuff we got to get, you know people

1367
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 1: we got to get stuff for and we go out

1368
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:50,760
Speaker 1: and we get it all one day. We pay cash

1369
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 1: for everything and we so we don't we don't. We

1370
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 1: don't go to that. We don't use credit cards. One

1371
01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 1: day and then we usually go have a nice dinner

1372
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 1: at the end of the day.

1373
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 2: Did and you see already did that this year. That

1374
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:07,680
Speaker 2: was two Saturdays ago. Where'd you guys, where'd you go

1375
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 2: to dinner?

1376
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:08,639
Speaker 1: Uh?

1377
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:13,720
Speaker 2: Well, we want to Uh we normally go to a steakhouse,

1378
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:17,720
Speaker 2: but it was man, it was snowing, and that that's

1379
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 2: we had the big day. Yeah, so we stayed a

1380
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 2: little closer to home, went to a Mexican place and uh,

1381
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:26,599
Speaker 2: you can never go wrong. What's going to that local.

1382
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 2: It was funny because we were we were in there

1383
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 2: and it's snowing, and people were coming in and we

1384
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 2: were talking about say, you know, and look, I always

1385
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:41,600
Speaker 2: say this, and I've always said this that when it

1386
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 2: snows out. I was never one of those ones, even

1387
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 2: though I was reporting on the snow. I never said, hey,

1388
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 2: stay home, go slow, be careful, all that kind of stuff,

1389
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:53,720
Speaker 2: because nobody's going to listen. I said, you got to

1390
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 2: figure out for yourself. Are you a good driver? And

1391
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 2: you have to judge your own driving ability. I'm pretty

1392
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 2: good driving in the snow. I don't worry about it

1393
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 2: that much.

1394
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 1: Yep.

1395
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:06,559
Speaker 2: If but if you're not good in the snow, then

1396
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 2: they home recognize that. Yes, do us all a favor

1397
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 2: to yourself, a favor, no shame in that and let

1398
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 2: me let me, let me let this fifty thousand what

1399
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 2: mother flamethrower. No, there's a lot of y'all out there

1400
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 2: and greater Cincinnati that don't know how to drive in

1401
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 2: the snow. Me and me, having grown up in the

1402
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 2: country in southeast o High on the rolling Hills, learn

1403
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 2: how to drive in the snow. Then I lived in

1404
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 2: Minnesota for three years. How well do they clear the

1405
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 2: snow out there in Galla police?

1406
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:37,680
Speaker 1: Not well? Not well? When they call schools off there,

1407
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 1: it's legit because I.

1408
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 2: Ride a bus forty five minutes one way every every

1409
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:46,759
Speaker 2: day growing up in elementary school.

1410
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:49,679
Speaker 1: Wow, So yeah, I mean that's rough.

1411
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 2: But here, I mean number one, we've gotten terrible at

1412
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:57,479
Speaker 2: cleaning the roads generally speaking. I'm not picking on one

1413
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 2: municipality over the other. Uh, we just were not good

1414
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 2: at it anymore. It used to be, and I understand

1415
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 2: it doesn't. It doesn't seem to snow as much generally

1416
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 2: as it used to. Right well, I don't know. I mean,

1417
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 2: we've had snow on the it's it's there's no snow

1418
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:15,560
Speaker 2: on the ground today. But right when when you have

1419
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 2: those early December snowfalls like we had, I'm just dripping

1420
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 2: in my golf. I'm sitting here a little stumped. After

1421
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 2: a couple of calls there, I'm.

1422
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 1: A little rattled.

1423
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:27,600
Speaker 2: Let's throw one more in here before we got to

1424
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 2: get to uh at Christmas shows, David Dayton, what's going.

1425
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 8: On, hey, guys?

1426
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 15: A couple of questions. I'm gonna play Devil's advocate on one. Okay,

1427
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 15: this stuff that Connie Pilligs is out there saying how

1428
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:46,680
Speaker 15: they cheated, how they hid evidence. And I understand Joe

1429
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:49,720
Speaker 15: Deeters coming down and wanting to clear things up and

1430
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 15: protect his reputation, but that would seem pretty slanderous to me.

1431
01:14:56,200 --> 01:15:00,680
Speaker 15: And if if it is him being adjust and him

1432
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 15: knowing them all, why isn't there a lawsuit filed against

1433
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:07,679
Speaker 15: Connie Pillage and the prosecutor's office for those remarks?

1434
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 1: That would be my first question.

1435
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 2: Well, I would, I would say to that that look

1436
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 2: at Joe Deeters, his Joe Dieters has built his reputation

1437
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:24,559
Speaker 2: on what he did in office, and his body of work,

1438
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 2: to my way of thinking, pretty much stands for itself.

1439
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:31,599
Speaker 2: So he doesn't need to He doesn't need to escalate

1440
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:34,599
Speaker 2: this any further. I mean, and maybe he's got that recourse.

1441
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 2: I don't know, but Dan.

1442
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:41,680
Speaker 15: Devil's advocate again, if he was to do that, that

1443
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:44,439
Speaker 15: would open up a whole thing on Discovery too.

1444
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:46,880
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, the other the other component of this,

1445
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 2: and Dave, we got to run the other component of

1446
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 2: this is though by Connie Pillage saying what she said

1447
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 2: opens up Hamilton County to potential lawsuits as well, with

1448
01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 2: people saying, hey, you know, we got to go back

1449
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 2: and look at these case and if we are wrongfully convicted,

1450
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 2: then we'll do some money, and that that could get very,

1451
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:05,679
Speaker 2: very expensive.

1452
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:07,639
Speaker 1: But all I got to say to that is Dave,

1453
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:10,720
Speaker 1: thanks for a good call and for good question. Well

1454
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 1: Devil's advocate, there nothing wrong with that. Five two and

1455
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 1: we got to check a little traffic and weather together

1456
01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 1: on seven hundred WW.

1457
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 6: From the UC Health Traffic Center. At uce Health, you'll

1458
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:25,599
Speaker 6: find comprehensive care that's so personal it makes your best

1459
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 6: tomorrow possible. That's boundless care for better outcomes. Expect more

1460
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 6: at UCHealth dot com. A couple of earlier accidents now

1461
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:36,640
Speaker 6: cleared out, including one on a Hunt Road that's at

1462
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 6: Plainfield Road and Padretti Avenue. Another accident cleared out at

1463
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 6: Foley Road. Still one crash though, that is pull rain

1464
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 6: over at Hoppole Street in northbound seventy five. A little

1465
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:51,680
Speaker 6: bit of slow traffic between Mitchell and Paddock right now.

1466
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 6: It's a three minute delay. I met Ezellek on news

1467
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 6: radio seven hundred WLW.

1468
01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 2: Here's the nine first one forecast. Light sprinkles, showers maybe

1469
01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 2: moving through the tri state tonight. Nothing all that heavy

1470
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 2: We're going to have an overnight low fifties. I'm sorry,

1471
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 2: forty three, not fifty six. Tomorrow's highest fifty six under

1472
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 2: mostly cloudy skies. Tomorrow night cloudy cool, the overnight low

1473
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 2: forty and then Christmas Eve we're looking at a high

1474
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 2: under cloudy skies of fifty six in maybe even in

1475
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:23,959
Speaker 2: the sixties.

1476
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 14: For Christmas Day it is forty four at seven hundred wlw.

1477
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 14: This report is sponsored by One Hour Heating and Eric

1478
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 14: kennerysning winter temps seven hundred WLW.

1479
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 2: Dan Carroll in for Eddie and Rocky along with Jason Williams.

1480
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 2: I did our intro a little different that time.

1481
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:41,479
Speaker 1: Are you okay with that? Totally fine?

1482
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 2: You looked a little dyspeptic over there. So wa other

1483
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:49,640
Speaker 2: stuff that's going on in the news, and this is

1484
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 2: what is happening with Venezuela, and a lot of people

1485
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:55,520
Speaker 2: are looking at that, and you've got the naval blockade

1486
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 2: going on. Of course, we know Trump has been attacking

1487
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:00,720
Speaker 2: the drug boats, and now we got things going on

1488
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 2: with oil tankers. And then I look at the headlines

1489
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 2: from over the weekend and I see there's a hot

1490
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 2: pursuit of US Coast Guard chip chasing down an oil tanker.

1491
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:14,639
Speaker 2: And to tell us more about that is Christiane Cordero

1492
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:17,560
Speaker 2: of ABC News, and Christian, thank you so much for

1493
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 2: being here. What about this hot pursuit is that? Is

1494
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:25,960
Speaker 2: that just a headline to draw interest or is there

1495
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 2: really a big chase going on in the high seas

1496
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:31,759
Speaker 2: with our coast guard trying to chase down an oil tank.

1497
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean I think it's much more of the

1498
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 16: latter than the former. Dan Jason, great to be with

1499
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 16: you both. So this is the third vessel. I say

1500
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 16: that because this isn't just the first one, but it's

1501
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 16: actually the third vessel with ties of Venezuela in less

1502
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 16: than two weeks that the US has chased down and

1503
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 16: two have been successfully chased down and even seized. But

1504
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 16: this latest one we still have many questions on as

1505
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 16: far as has it actually been seized, is this chase

1506
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 16: still happening. But essentially, the US is saying that this

1507
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:03,599
Speaker 16: vessel is operating illegally, that it's evading sanctions and flying

1508
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:05,600
Speaker 16: a false flag, and therefore it has the right to

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Speaker 16: do what it's doing. But as you kind of you know,

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Speaker 16: alluded to, this does fit into the greater picture of

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Speaker 16: things really escalating between the US and Venezuela Christian.

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Speaker 2: It's funny to see like active pursuit of an oil tanker.

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Speaker 2: That's a massive ship, right, and it's the body of

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Speaker 2: water in the grand scheme of you know, I guess

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01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:28,719
Speaker 2: oceans and big massive bodies of waters in this world,

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01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:30,840
Speaker 2: it's not that big of an area.

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Speaker 1: So is it hard to find? Has it been hard

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Speaker 1: for the coast Guard to find the ship or what's

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01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:38,880
Speaker 1: what's going on there?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, it's an interesting question. I have a feeling that

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01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 16: the government knows more information about that than they have

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01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 16: publicly shared, of course, and some of it just may

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01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 16: be a lapse of you know, timing and communication. We

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01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 16: expect to hear from the President really any minute now

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01:19:55,479 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 16: and possibly address that very question. But what we've seen

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Speaker 16: in other examples, I mean, we've seen it be as

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01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:08,799
Speaker 16: over as helico US Forces Coast Guard tactical teams repelling

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01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 16: from a helicopter and boarding some of the depths of

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01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 16: these oil tankers. So to your point, this is a

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01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 16: huge vessel. It's certainly much much bigger than any of

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Speaker 16: the twenty eight suspected drug smuggling boats that we've seen

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Speaker 16: get targeted through airstrikes from the administration over the past

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01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:29,719
Speaker 16: several months, and because of that and several other reasons,

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Speaker 16: it is a really big step in what the administration

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01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 16: has been saying for a while now, which is that

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Speaker 16: they're going after Nicholas Maduro and why they're going after

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01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 16: him is up for interpretation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, some of the analysis that I've seen and that

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01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:47,720
Speaker 2: I've read is that this is a play to put

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01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:50,720
Speaker 2: pressure on China because much of this oil, if not

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01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 2: all of it, is bound for China eventually and maybe

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01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 2: going through Iran first and then onto China. What's your

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01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 2: what do you have any information along those lines? And

1544
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 2: how much interest is China showing in all this stuff

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01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:08,639
Speaker 2: that's playing out there off the coast of Venezuela.

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01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 16: Right, So, China gets this oil from a lot of

1547
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:15,560
Speaker 16: different suppliers, So I would think that the more immediate,

1548
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 16: the more immediate results would be how this affects Venezuela

1549
01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 16: and other countries that have exports oil too. So remember,

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01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 16: Venezuela's pretty much lifeblood of its economy is oil exports.

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01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 16: So if you take that away from them, then you

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01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 16: have essentially forced a regime change. Right, people will suffer

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01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:37,840
Speaker 16: because of it, and that will change things as far

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01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 16: as who's in control within the government goes. And there

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01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 16: is some speculation to believe that that's ultimately what the

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01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:47,599
Speaker 16: administration wants, is to see a regime change. In fact,

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01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:51,639
Speaker 16: Senator Lindsay Graham over the weekend said that as plain

1558
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:53,760
Speaker 16: as day, where he said, I'd like to see the

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01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 16: people of Venezuela be able to elect a new leader

1560
01:21:56,120 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 16: that would not only be good for them, but good

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01:21:57,840 --> 01:21:59,560
Speaker 16: for the region and good for the United States. And

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Speaker 16: best part is exactly what has members of Congress conflicted,

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01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:07,240
Speaker 16: because there are some Republicans and certainly many Democrats who

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01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:10,519
Speaker 16: are against the administration's efforts and saying this is not

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01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 16: under the quot unquote America First Agenda, we should not

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01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:16,720
Speaker 16: be bothering with Venezuela and all for what and and

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01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:20,120
Speaker 16: so you know, there there are throwing skepticism at the

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01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 16: administration's claims that this is entirely about drug smuggling. And

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01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 16: but but that is something that the administration has been

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01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:28,760
Speaker 16: adamant about, is that that's exactly.

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01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 5: What it is.

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Speaker 2: Well, you brought it up there, Christiana, about the drug

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01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 2: boats smuggling, and so is potentially part of this going after, hey,

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01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 2: we're gonna you you you Maduro, better stop, get get

1575
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:46,639
Speaker 2: the drug boats under control because they're coming from your shores,

1576
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:49,599
Speaker 2: or we're going to hit you in this other way

1577
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 2: that's really going to hurt you.

1578
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:51,720
Speaker 6: Is that.

1579
01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 2: Is that a legitimate, you know, theory or thought that

1580
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:57,599
Speaker 2: that that's part of what's playing in here.

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01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:01,599
Speaker 16: Yeah, that certainly is what the administration is the message

1582
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 16: that they're trying to get across. And you probably remember

1583
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:08,080
Speaker 16: in the past several weeks we've heard Trump administration officials

1584
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 16: say that if you know, if certain things don't change them,

1585
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 16: they're going to strike on land next, right, And that

1586
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:16,760
Speaker 16: also raises some question. But it also is worth noting

1587
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:21,720
Speaker 16: that while there are many experts do believe that these

1588
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 16: suspected drug boats were back carrying drugs, the vast majority

1589
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:29,679
Speaker 16: of this is, according to UN data, the vast majority

1590
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 16: of drugs that travel over the Caribbean are actually bound

1591
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:35,160
Speaker 16: for Europe, not for the US. And the vast majority

1592
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 16: of the drugs that we get here in the US

1593
01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:40,560
Speaker 16: goes over as lands borders, and particularly the border we

1594
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:44,599
Speaker 16: share with Mexico. So it's so it's it's a more

1595
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 16: complex issue, I think than what we've seen play out

1596
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:52,839
Speaker 16: so far. But if that's part of the administration's larger

1597
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 16: play to you know, show that they're cracking down on

1598
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:56,960
Speaker 16: drug smuggling, then that very well.

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Speaker 5: Could be it.

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Speaker 2: Christiana, Well, I've got one more question for you, and

1601
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:02,680
Speaker 2: I'm here us as a guy who used to be

1602
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 2: a reporter himself. What's it like getting information on this

1603
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 2: story out of this administration? You know, it's not like,

1604
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:10,959
Speaker 2: you know, I know, ABC has got a lot of resources,

1605
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 2: but it's not like you got boats out there in

1606
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 2: the Caribbean on the high seas being able to monitor

1607
01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:19,160
Speaker 2: all this. But when you go to the Administration, the

1608
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:21,679
Speaker 2: Department of War, the Coast Guard, or whatever the case

1609
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 2: may be, what's it like getting information so you can

1610
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 2: report on this story?

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01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 4: Sure?

1612
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:28,600
Speaker 16: Sure, yeah, well, I mean, of course, it depends on

1613
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 16: the circumstances. We feel very fortunate that we have a

1614
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:35,600
Speaker 16: great Pentagon team that has been covering this relentlessly, and

1615
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 16: then on top of that, we also have a really

1616
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:41,120
Speaker 16: vast international team. So you know, you and I presumably

1617
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 16: can't go to Venezuela physically, but we have certain reporters

1618
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 16: with an our organization who can because they are British

1619
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 16: citizens or things of that nature. So there are many

1620
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:52,639
Speaker 16: different ways to kind of corroborate information, and I think

1621
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:56,760
Speaker 16: one of the challenges is just you know, getting the

1622
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 16: most up to date and also getting a pulse of

1623
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 16: what that they look like in the grand scheme of things,

1624
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:06,559
Speaker 16: because these moves have you know, they've been they've floated

1625
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:09,679
Speaker 16: out many different ideas, including land strips, and and every

1626
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 16: time something like that had mentioned that, it warrants us

1627
01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 16: kind of you know, looking into what that may look like.

1628
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 16: And and it's played out many different ways so far.

1629
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:19,760
Speaker 16: So it's it's been it's been a lot, but it's

1630
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:21,360
Speaker 16: been you know, we're very fortunate.

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01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:23,920
Speaker 1: All right, Christian Cordero. With that, we'll let you go,

1632
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:26,840
Speaker 1: and I appreciate the time this afternoon, and keep up

1633
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 1: the great work, and happy holidays to you and yours.

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01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:32,400
Speaker 1: Thanks you too, all right, there you go, Thank you,

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01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 1: Christiana cor Christian Cordeo from ABC News. And that was

1636
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:38,360
Speaker 1: pretty good. I mean, she's she's.

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01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:38,680
Speaker 10: All over this.

1638
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:42,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great work. And it's a fascinating story. It's

1639
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:44,880
Speaker 2: kind of it's it's it's kind of complex though it is.

1640
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 2: You know, I had a guy on my show last week,

1641
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 2: Daniel Turner from Power of the Future and when it

1642
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 2: comes to energy and oil and energy related issues, I

1643
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:55,400
Speaker 2: I mean, this is right in his wheelhouse.

1644
01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 1: And I said, what is the play here? And he said,

1645
01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:00,760
Speaker 1: you know, he's trying to put some pressure on by

1646
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 1: cutting off this oil supply. And then she mentioned that China,

1647
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:06,599
Speaker 1: you know, they don't make that. They don't produce their

1648
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:09,160
Speaker 1: own oil in China, so they have to import it

1649
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:12,400
Speaker 1: from other places. And I think Venezuela is their number

1650
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:15,160
Speaker 1: one place where they a point get it from, but

1651
01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:18,120
Speaker 1: they import it from other areas around the world as well.

1652
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 1: But I think Trump is looking at this as trying

1653
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 1: to put pressure on China and they get trying to

1654
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:24,880
Speaker 1: play the ball, play ball the way he wants them

1655
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 1: to play.

1656
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:28,680
Speaker 2: Well, there's that, and then you throw out the other

1657
01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:32,559
Speaker 2: complex piece of this, the drug trafficking. And you think

1658
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 2: about the drug the drug wars that have been going

1659
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:38,920
Speaker 2: on since the Reagan administration, and God blessed Ronald Reagan,

1660
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:43,320
Speaker 2: He's the one that got it started. But it's never

1661
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:47,679
Speaker 2: been this aggressive of Okay, you know what, it's still coming,

1662
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 2: it's still coming, still coming into this country. Trump hates drugs.

1663
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it, right, Yeah, you know you

1664
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 2: and I have talked about a lot of serious stuff today.

1665
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:58,840
Speaker 2: Yeah we have, and let's let's uh, we'll ease up

1666
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 2: a little bit tomorrow and next day as we get,

1667
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 2: you know, just hours away from Christmas. I don't coming

1668
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:06,360
Speaker 2: up in a couple of days. Can I say one

1669
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 2: thing we're gonna talk about, please do. We're gonna do

1670
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:11,800
Speaker 2: our favorite Christmas songs? And I always look forward to

1671
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:14,760
Speaker 2: that segment every Did any rocket do the Christmas songs

1672
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 2: you hate the most? Did they do that one day

1673
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:16,639
Speaker 2: last week?

1674
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:19,479
Speaker 1: Didn't? I didn't. I didn't listen. Maybe we'll do that too,

1675
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 1: Christmas songs you hate, Christmas songs, movie stuff. I got

1676
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:24,720
Speaker 1: a few of those, all right. But for now, we

1677
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:28,200
Speaker 1: got to run and we'll see you tomorrow, all right,

1678
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:30,240
Speaker 1: But but for now I'll be here. It's time for

1679
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:33,760
Speaker 1: a little traffic and weather together on seven hundred WLW