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Speaker 2: or the executive branch can lawfully move dangerous foreign nationals

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Speaker 2: out of the country and not have to have individualized hearings. Now,

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Speaker 2: I don't think anybody needs to prove a whispered phone

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Speaker 2: call between the father and the daughter. The question is

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Speaker 2: what an objective citizen would think. What would you think

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Speaker 2: when learning that the judge blocking the president's deportation flights

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Speaker 2: has a daughter whose professional mission is to stop deportations

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Speaker 2: and those and that stopping a deportations is backed by

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Speaker 2: the very stream of federal money that the administration is

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Speaker 2: trying to discipline and reign in. He needs to be impeached,

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Speaker 2: or at least the court needs to step in and

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Speaker 2: the Supreme Court needs to slap him down. No more

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Speaker 2: national injunctions. Only people who are within your jurisdiction can

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Speaker 2: you enforce an injunction against Now, eventually to make it

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Speaker 2: to the Supreme Court, but until then, somehow it's got

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