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Speaker 3: All right, good afternoon, Welcome in, Happy Wednesday, Happy Thanksgiving Eve.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for listening to ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station,

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Speaker 3: get to today. It's essentially a Friday here for us

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Speaker 3: Austin because we're not in tomorrow for Thanksgiving. We're also

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Speaker 3: on company holiday on Friday. I believe Chad Brenda is

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Speaker 3: got Bearcats and horn Frogs on Saturday. Also, Ohio State

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Speaker 3: Michigan happens on Saturday, among many others with high school

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Speaker 3: football playoffs. Black Friday, NFL Thanksgiving NFL Friday Night College

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Speaker 3: Football Action. It is a loaded, loaded sports weekend and

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Speaker 3: we are going to talk about it all for the

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Speaker 3: welcome your phone calls five to one, three, seven, four nine,

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Speaker 3: of our conversation today. Also joining our conversation today Charlie

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Speaker 3: Goldsmith in from his normal Friday spot to Wednesday at

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Speaker 3: one o'clock and Keegan Nickoson will get us set for

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Speaker 3: both Bearcats and Eastern Michigan happening tonight and the UC

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Speaker 3: season from a football standpoint on Saturday. So Charlie at

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Speaker 3: one keeging it to your talkbacks in hour newnumber two,

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Speaker 3: we'll do our weekly pick them segment in our number

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Speaker 3: three and talk to you as mentioned all along the

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Speaker 3: way now, Austin, because it is essentially our Friday, you

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Speaker 3: told me today that you're actually starting to get that

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Speaker 3: that feeling that it is Ohio State and Michigan week.

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Speaker 4: Did you try to elaborate? Yeah, you know, I just

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Speaker 4: I've been thinking about it more. I've been reading about it.

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Speaker 4: I've been hearing it more.

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Speaker 5: You know, and it I was one I started.

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Speaker 4: I tried to convince myself, you did that it doesn't

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Speaker 4: But why should I feel that way? Why should I

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Speaker 4: I take away its importance? I get to decide what's

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Speaker 3: Now that feeling, that feeling in the pit of your stomach,

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Speaker 3: that could also be the anticipation of Turkey Day tomorrow

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Speaker 5: No, I should just be a hunger.

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Speaker 4: I'm fired up for Turkey Day.

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Speaker 5: Now you're on because of all the.

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Speaker 4: Football that we get to consume, and the turkey and

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Speaker 3: And it's three good matchups Packers Lions, Fantastic Chiefs, Cowboys,

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Speaker 3: The college football I know Saturday is a huge day

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Speaker 3: Is there a perfect time like I always just assumed

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so for most of my life it was a

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Speaker 5: That was the goal. And so do that.

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Speaker 3: Man doesn't get any better. So I'm so excited for

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Speaker 4: I am too. I mean, do you make anything? Do

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Speaker 5: Who's we me? I'm talking about you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, last year. Well, so what we do is we

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Speaker 3: relying on family members for that. So we'll make some sides,

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Speaker 3: mac and cheese, oh, desserts, things like that. Now that's something,

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Speaker 4: Growing up, I feel like we never had mac and

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Speaker 4: I yearn for mac and cheese. Yep, it's got to

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Speaker 4: be a good mac. Help there's some mac and cheese tomorrow.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I was also looking at the weather forecast for the

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Speaker 4: two to four inches of snow. Really two to four

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Speaker 4: inches according to ACI Weather, during the day from two

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Speaker 5: Oh man.

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Speaker 4: Now you may remember and nineteen twenty nineteen, Ohio State

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Speaker 5: I was there. It was the last time that Ohio

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Speaker 5: State beat Michigan. Wow.

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Speaker 4: Justin Fields was the quarterback. It was played at the

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Speaker 4: about bucket list of all bucket lists, to be at

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Speaker 4: the Big House with about sixty thousand Ohio State fans

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: One of the coolest things I've ever seen, and we

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Speaker 3: I had a buddy of mine just way in three

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Speaker 3: point thirty to four to begin eating. No, we're done

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Speaker 3: by five. Wrong, shake off the meat sweats by six

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Speaker 3: to drink for the night games.

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Speaker 4: Drink drinking, See now, I never my family never drink.

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Speaker 4: Or you gotta work too tomorrow Yeah, I have tomorn night.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll have some drinks after dinner to mornight. Are

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Speaker 4: you gonna call into the show that depends now? For

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Speaker 4: those who don't know Bengals Ravens Tomorrow night, eight twenty

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Speaker 4: pm kickoff. Austin Elmore hosts postgame sports talk. Yeah, from

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Speaker 4: one am until three am Black Friday.

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Speaker 3: So if you are one of those folks that wait

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Speaker 5: Yeah, call in on your way.

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Speaker 4: If you're one of those dinosaurs who actually goes to

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Speaker 3: I feel like now all the deals are just online anyway.

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Speaker 4: How about that college where you have to go to

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Speaker 4: get any Black Friday deals? Nope, I don't. I don't

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Speaker 3: I've tried in the past and like it's just such

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Speaker 3: How about this from the Bengals Pro Shop. You ready

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Speaker 3: for this? Let's go so Black Friday. They're offering forty

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Speaker 3: percent off all T shirts and polos. That doesn't include Lululemon,

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Speaker 3: but forty percent off all polos. And if you spend

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Speaker 3: and take a picture with who day.

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Speaker 5: Wow, that's pretty cool. I might be at the pro

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Speaker 5: Shop Friday morning. It's pretty cool.

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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: We'll see all right then?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, college football playoff rankings those came out last night.

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Speaker 5: Were there any change?

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Speaker 4: Because I didn't pay attention to that at all? I

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Speaker 4: don't think so. Another top five are the same. The

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Speaker 4: even help the seating for the Buckeyes based on who

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Speaker 5: Damn it.

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Speaker 3: We got some stuff we've got to read and react to,

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Speaker 3: Welcome back since he three to sixty thanks to Skyline

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Speaker 3: Five one, three, seven, four, nine, fifteen thirty Austin. For now,

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Speaker 5: Are you ready for this? Tom can't wait?

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Speaker 4: This is Bengals at Raven happens tomorrow night. Read and

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Speaker 5: Okay, all right, are you ready? Let's do it. Bengals

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Speaker 5: running back Chase Brown. I like him.

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Speaker 4: Over the the first three weeks of the season, Chase

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Speaker 3: I do think Joe Flacco played a role in that

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Speaker 3: have been Do you look at Joe Burrow for that?

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Speaker 3: straight weeks has been over one hundred scrim scrimmageyarge in

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 3: It has been the ability of the quick passing game

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Speaker 3: Linderbaum has allowed pressure on six point four percent of

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Speaker 4: But the Ravens are generating pressure. Listen to this. The

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Speaker 3: Well, that just tells me that they're not able to

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Speaker 4: Jamar Chase had one hundred and twelve total matchups against

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Speaker 5: One more. Let's go Lamar Jackson. Lamar.

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Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson has completed play action passes at the highest

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Speaker 5: You know, this is just who they're going to be.

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Speaker 3: We've waited for years and years and years for Lamar

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 4: Actually, he's been banged up. He's one of the insights

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Speaker 4: averaged just two point three designed runs per game this season.

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Speaker 4: That's the fewest of his career and over half of

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Speaker 4: point six. He has also scrambled on just sixteen point

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Speaker 4: three percent of his dropbacks, by far the lowest of

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Speaker 4: his career. Between designed rush in scramble rushes, Jackson has

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Speaker 4: averaged five point eight carries per game, which is far

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Speaker 3: It just feels like not only has he dealt with injuries,

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Speaker 3: but it's been lower body injuries which affect his ability

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Speaker 3: to extend the play and be that playmaker that he's

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Speaker 3: been for so much of his career. I wouldn't have

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Speaker 3: thought it was even that low. I mean, that is

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Speaker 3: that's not a normal Baltimore Ravens clip and when you

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Speaker 3: factor that in with at this point of the season,

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Speaker 3: Derrick Henry's lack of rushing ability. I mean, I'm not

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Speaker 3: saying that Derek Henry is, but he's six in the

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Speaker 3: cases where you know Derrick Henry has fallen off, but

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Speaker 3: I believe he's fifteenth in the NFL in yards per carry.

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Speaker 3: So he's just not generating as many yards per carry

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Speaker 3: as we've seen years past. And you factor that in

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Speaker 3: with Lamar not running as much, well, then teams aren't

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Speaker 3: going to bite as much on the play action, so

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Speaker 3: you've got to run more drop back and Lamar is

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Speaker 3: struggling to do that. That is where if the Bengals

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Speaker 3: can stop the run tomorrow night, make him a passer.

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Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back, thanks for listening in since he three

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Speaker 3: Let's take a moment to talk to you your phone

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Speaker 3: calls on this Wednesday afternoon.

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Speaker 5: Let's start with Tom.

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Speaker 6: Hey, Tom, Hey, how's it going guys?

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Speaker 7: Good?

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Speaker 5: How are you.

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Speaker 7: Doing great?

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Speaker 1: I wanted to tell Austin I will be in ann

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Speaker 1: Arboro on Saturday, in that snow and cold and wind. Tom,

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Speaker 1: this is my This will be my thirty fourth Ohio

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Speaker 1: Street Michigan game in per.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, yeah, or just thirty four over the

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Speaker 4: course of time.

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Speaker 1: I'm sixty three. My first game wasn't until I was

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Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy nine. We blocked a punt to beat

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Speaker 1: this bastards with my family. My dad was a cheerleader

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Speaker 1: at Ohio State, so I started drinking the kool aid early.

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Speaker 1: And uh yeah, so I've gone to thirty four. I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm eighteen and fifteen. The coup of years kind of

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Speaker 1: screwed my record.

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Speaker 6: A little bit because I was up there for the

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Speaker 6: Biaka Batuca.

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Speaker 1: Game and Tom Brady games and oh my gosh, but

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Speaker 1: it's so much fun to watch them walk up that

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Speaker 1: long stairway of hell to at home when when we win,

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Speaker 1: it's just been a while.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, so it's a blast.

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Speaker 1: And we do have a scenario where if we lose,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to lose, but if we lose and

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Speaker 1: Purdue beats Indiana and Washington beats Oregon, we are in

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Speaker 1: the Big Ten championship game against Michigan next week.

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Speaker 5: What about that? Could you imagine? Now?

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Speaker 3: Are you confident, Tom? Are you confident going into this

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Speaker 3: game on Saturday, or do you find yourself with a

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Speaker 3: pit in your stomach.

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Speaker 1: I'm I don't know, I have a p I think

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Speaker 1: both things can be true.

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Speaker 6: I'm confident, but I'm a pit in my stomach.

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Speaker 1: I mean, fifteen losses to these guys in person takes

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Speaker 1: a toll. I mean, I have I don't have much hair.

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Speaker 1: I've gotta you know, love handles, and it's all because

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Speaker 1: of Michigan.

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Speaker 6: Of them, it's rough man.

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Speaker 1: But you guys have a wonderful show. I mean, is

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Speaker 1: by far and away the best talk show sports talk

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Speaker 1: show that Cincinnati.

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Speaker 6: I think has had.

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Speaker 1: I've lived here since ninety one. It's the best local

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Speaker 1: show there is.

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Speaker 6: And you're funny. You don't take it too seriously. You're

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Speaker 6: good to the guests.

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Speaker 1: I mean, and you know, Tony, I get your state stuff,

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Speaker 1: but I think it's a little bit of that is

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Speaker 1: for show. I think at his core, I think you

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Speaker 1: like them. You just that would be an off the

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Speaker 1: record statement on your I.

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Speaker 3: Feel like I've at least come around in the last

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Speaker 3: few years.

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Speaker 5: I would agree with that. I've come around to be

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Speaker 5: more fair.

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Speaker 9: These are good people, Yeah, these are good people.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you supported Brian Kelly for God. Bryan Day

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Speaker 1: is a good man. These are good people, good athletes.

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Speaker 1: They go to class, they really they actually go to

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Speaker 1: class for something other than.

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Speaker 6: You know, best weaving. They're good people. Be proud of

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Speaker 6: your state.

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Speaker 5: Buddy, you're a good man. Thank you. Go get us

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Speaker 5: a win. Brother.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely. Oh and happy Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 3: Thank you Tom. Appreciate that man, that's good stuff. Fifteen

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Speaker 3: and fifteen thirty fourth time heading to the game.

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Speaker 4: I'm I don't know what would happen to me if

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Speaker 4: I saw a loss in person.

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Speaker 5: That's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Oh you want to talk about you know when we

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Speaker 4: won when we were up there the last time they

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Speaker 4: played and they won, there was I'm serious, like half

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Speaker 4: the place was Ohio State fans. Yeah, and Michigan was

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Speaker 4: in the top fifteen at the time. Sure, but they're

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Speaker 4: just awful to you. Yeah, just brutal. I just didn't

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Speaker 4: say a word and just mean mean nasty people north

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Speaker 4: of the border.

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Speaker 5: What's up, Mark, how are you?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 11: I'm doing I'm doing all right.

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Speaker 10: Alston Elmore gave me a compliment the other day when

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Speaker 10: I brought up the point about Zach Keeler not being

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Speaker 10: you know, sure about what he's doing. When he's on

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Speaker 10: the side.

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Speaker 5: That was a good point.

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Speaker 10: Mark Yeah, hey, yeah, oh yeah, I mean yeah, the

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Speaker 10: word turning over when off Nebo. And then you got

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Speaker 10: you got to put that in the trophy case because

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Speaker 10: you ain't gonna get too many of.

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Speaker 5: Those hold on to that.

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Speaker 10: What But I got a I got a Dack's heel question,

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Speaker 10: and I got a Muma jip that got what happened

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Speaker 10: to that guy? And the reason I'm asking about him?

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Speaker 10: I would be in favor of a defense of philosophy

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Speaker 10: change where he looked like a perfect middle linebacker that

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Speaker 10: would stick his head in there in gaps and make tackles.

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Speaker 10: And the two linebackers that they have, they look more

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Speaker 10: like linebackers that you would play like if you play

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Speaker 10: a three four defense and one of them was the

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Speaker 10: strong side linebacker and one was a weak side. They

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Speaker 10: look more like linebackers that's more suited for that.

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Speaker 7: As opposed to what they're doing now.

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Speaker 4: I mean, and my off on that now with the

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Speaker 4: Carolina Panthers, by the way, he's yes, he was signed

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Speaker 4: off the Bengals practice squad.

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Speaker 10: Okay, so the Bengals, Yeah, I thought I thought he

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Speaker 10: I thought that he should have gave him a shot

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Speaker 10: because I think.

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Speaker 3: I mean, with how bad the linebacking play has been

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Speaker 3: for sure?

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Speaker 5: Sure?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 11: Is that okay?

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Speaker 7: Dax Hill?

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Speaker 10: Let's let's he looks like Mike Hilton. When when he's

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Speaker 10: close to the line of scrimmage and you Ron Blitzey,

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Speaker 10: he looks good. But when you get him back there

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Speaker 10: and coverage, you know it's either get burnt or get

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Speaker 10: So who are we ready to give up on him?

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Speaker 10: I mean, he he can't play safety. I don't think

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Speaker 10: he's a good cornerback. So how how do you use him?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Marko, let's we'll discuss that. Thank you for the

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Speaker 3: phone call. Dax Hill is interesting to me, Austin. Overall,

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Speaker 3: PFF hasn't been fifty two point nine this year, but

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Speaker 3: from a tackling point of view, he's ranked first with

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Speaker 3: fifty four solo tackles. On a defense that doesn't tackle right,

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Speaker 3: on a defense that struggles to tackle in space, Dax

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Speaker 3: Hill has at least shown the ability from the safety

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Speaker 5: To tackle.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know if Dax Hill is a finished

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Speaker 3: product yet, Austin, but what I can say about Dax

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Speaker 3: Hill is I think he's at least one of those

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Speaker 3: guys that you can circle to run it back with

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Speaker 3: next year. And I know there's not a ton of

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Speaker 3: those guys on defense, but I do think he's one

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Speaker 3: of them. Yeah, I agree, what's up John?

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Speaker 11: Happy Thanksgiving tellers, you too?

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Speaker 7: All right?

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Speaker 12: Tom?

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Speaker 13: Bringing up memories there Again. I've been in Boston my

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Speaker 13: whole life, but in nineteen seventy nine, I was the

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Speaker 13: biggest Archschleister fan, So not always the best taste in quarterbacks,

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Speaker 13: to be honest with you, But you know, I thought

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Speaker 13: he was fantastic as a player. But off the field

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Speaker 13: he obviously had to say the least. But I thought

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Speaker 13: he was going to be a fantastic player. Didn't work

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Speaker 13: out that way. Looking back at Joe Borrow's press conference yesterday,

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Speaker 13: the two things that stuck out. First of all, when

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Speaker 13: he talked about that he's a football player. He's get

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Speaker 13: paid a lot of money to play a game with

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Speaker 13: his friends and that's what he wants to do and

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Speaker 13: I think that's so refreshing. And the other part of

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Speaker 13: it when he dumped on the Detroit Lions a little bit,

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Speaker 13: saying that, you know, memories of the staff had threw

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Speaker 13: him for three four hundred yards to Calvin Johnson, probably

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Speaker 13: in a loss.

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Speaker 11: I thought that was.

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Speaker 7: Actually pretty cool.

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Speaker 13: But as far as going forward with him, and I

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Speaker 13: talked to Austin yesterday, if he were not to play

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Speaker 13: for the rest of this season, he would have played

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Speaker 13: five and a half quarters over a twenty month period.

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Speaker 13: That's not good, Tony. I think you could speak to

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Speaker 13: that more than anyone. Right, If you played five and

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Speaker 13: a half quarters in a twenty month period, that's not

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Speaker 13: good to get better as a quarterback because all he

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Speaker 13: ever talks about is reps and getting better and reps

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Speaker 13: and getting better. So I think getting him out there

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Speaker 13: is going to be a good thing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Look, I thought Joe Burrow handled everything that he was asked.

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Speaker 5: Yes today awesome.

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Speaker 14: You know.

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Speaker 3: I think the reasoning he gave about getting back, he's

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Speaker 3: a football player, and that's what he's going to do.

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Speaker 3: If he's able to play, if he feels like he's healthy,

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Speaker 3: he's going to go out there and play. And I

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Speaker 3: think noting like I'm not going to live my life

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Speaker 3: being scared that something may happen. I just think that

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Speaker 3: from him. I think that's the ultimate reason he worked

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Speaker 3: his tail off to get back. He's a competitor. I

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Speaker 3: think there's a point to this where this team is

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Speaker 3: lacking leadership and he's saying, hey, look at me, I

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Speaker 3: am the leader. I'm putting it out there for the team.

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Speaker 3: I think all that being said, again, I've been so

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Speaker 3: back and forth on what I want to see or

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Speaker 3: not see from Joe Burrow, but I can't agree that

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Speaker 3: as long as this team has a pulse, they have

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Speaker 3: a chance with Joe Burrow. And if it's important for

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Speaker 3: Joe Burrow, then then I'm going to support what he's

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Speaker 3: able to do.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, obviously the leadership part of it is

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Speaker 13: so important from that position.

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Speaker 7: You look and he's come back.

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Speaker 13: Two three weeks earlier than expected. Could we even find

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Speaker 13: out where Trey Henderson is. He's supposed to be a captain.

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Speaker 13: Jamar Chase is spitting at people. Although I'm a huge

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Speaker 13: fan of Jamar Chase, I think he was just out

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Speaker 13: of character. And here's this guy, you know, working his

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Speaker 13: butt talks off to get back on the field. But

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Speaker 13: he could probably give you easily said look, my money's guaranteed.

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Speaker 13: I'm going to come back when I'm fully healthy. And

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Speaker 13: I'm like that He's putting his reputation and his body

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Speaker 13: out there, which is.

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Speaker 5: It would be easier, is why he's that good.

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Speaker 3: It would be easier for Joe Burrow to say, I'm

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Speaker 3: just not right. I'll see you in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: That would be easier.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 3: It's the harder thing to do to come back and

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Speaker 3: put yourself out there, but it's the right thing to

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Speaker 3: do as a leader, and I respect that from Joe.

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Speaker 13: Burrow without question. And now one more thing. As far

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Speaker 13: as tomorrow night's game, I'm irrationally confident about the game

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Speaker 13: tomorrow night. The defense has played better the last two weeks,

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Speaker 13: not great, but better than it did the previous six

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Speaker 13: or seven weeks. Baltimore struggled on offense. We know what

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Speaker 13: Borrow and Chase can do against that Baltimore defense. You've

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Speaker 13: got a team it's won five in a row but

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Speaker 13: hasn't been overly impressive in doing so. You've got another

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Speaker 13: team that's lost eight out of nine that you know

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Speaker 13: was play some good games in there national stage. I

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Speaker 13: think it's gonna be as a teaming game, and I

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Speaker 13: think they pull it out twenty seven to twenty four

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Speaker 13: and keep their playoff hopes alive.

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Speaker 5: Guys.

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Speaker 13: That great Thanksgiving and again, thank you so much for

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Speaker 13: embracing a guy a thousand miles aw.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely talk with you guys. Thank you, John, We appreciate it. Thanks.

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Speaker 14: You know.

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Speaker 5: My question, and I said this to me on Monday, Austin.

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Speaker 5: My question is.

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Speaker 3: If if tomorrow night, Joe Burrow just doesn't look good,

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Speaker 3: if he's struggling to move in the pocket, if the

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Speaker 3: running game can't get anything going, if they lose, or

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Speaker 3: he takes five or six sacks, are we then at

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Speaker 3: the point of, all right, he tried things clearly aren't functioning. Well,

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Speaker 3: let's not run the risk anymore because you'd be another

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Speaker 3: loss deeper. Would you still start him against Buffalo? Or

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Speaker 3: are you at the point where you need to see

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Speaker 3: how it goes tomorrow night before you make it decision

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Speaker 3: on Buffalo.

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Speaker 4: I don't think you should expect him to just come

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Speaker 4: into this game and play like he did.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean like, I mean like it looks like

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Speaker 3: he's compromised moving in the pocket, like the tell he's

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Speaker 3: not able to push, he's not able to he's taking

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Speaker 3: some sacks normally he probably wouldn't take. It just doesn't

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Speaker 3: look good. They lose another game. Are you then saying, okay,

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Speaker 3: the math doesn't math anymore. You were able to come back.

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Speaker 3: We love that, But but you're sitting back down.

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Speaker 4: No, I would. I would still give him a chance

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Speaker 4: to play a little bit. I'm not going to freak out,

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Speaker 4: all right. Uh, we'll finish up the hour with the

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Speaker 4: rest of your phone calls. Next five, one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 4: fifteen thirty, we'll welcome Charlie Goldsmith in at the top

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Speaker 4: of our number two on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back cinty three to sixty thanks to Skyline Chili.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for listening on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 4: Almost Turkey Day.

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Speaker 7: There.

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Speaker 5: It is a couple.

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Speaker 3: More phone calls, and then Charlie Goldsmith will join us

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Speaker 3: to talk all things Bengals and raising.

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Speaker 4: Is a ten hour long YouTube video that's of just that.

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Speaker 5: Just a turkey gobbling. That's it. Gobble baby, gobble baby,

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Speaker 5: God of baby gobble. Okay, okay, interesting.

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Speaker 4: You know I love the Internet. You do ten hour

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Speaker 4: long video of just that. In the first comment says,

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Speaker 4: if any of you spoke turkey, this is actually a

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Speaker 4: very good story about this Turkey's life.

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Speaker 5: I like it.

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Speaker 3: You talk turkey, Nah, I ain't talking about turkey yet, Mike,

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Speaker 3: what's going on?

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Speaker 14: Hey?

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Speaker 12: I got an animal joke quick when you want to

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Speaker 12: hear it.

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Speaker 5: Sure is it clean, Mike?

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Speaker 12: It's clean as a whistle. Okay, okay, I mean there's

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Speaker 12: no foul language in it. But that's what you mean.

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Speaker 12: There's a bear and a rabbit out in the woods

775
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Speaker 12: and they're both just going done going, having a bowel movements.

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Speaker 12: And the bear looks down at the little rabbit and

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Speaker 12: he says, excuse me, do you have any trouble with

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Speaker 12: your poop sticking to your fur when you go to

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Speaker 12: the bathroom? And the rabbit says, no, frankly, I don't.

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Speaker 12: So the bear reaches down to except the rabbit and

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Speaker 12: wipes himself with the rabbits.

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Speaker 5: Very good, very good, mean old bear. Nice, well done.

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Speaker 12: Hey. I was listening to Patrick this morning. They were

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Speaker 12: on a tangent about stuffing.

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Speaker 5: You guys like stuffing, love stuffing.

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Speaker 3: No stuffing here, Oh my god, I know that's a

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Speaker 3: shocker to a lot of people.

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Speaker 12: You and Patrick got something in college that is weird, Tony,

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Speaker 12: that is just weird. Telling Moss and that is flat

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Speaker 12: out weird. Listen, everybody not eats stuffing my wife.

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Speaker 4: I'm exhausted by trying to help Tony be a better

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Speaker 4: connoisseur of food.

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Speaker 5: But it's it's a lost.

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Speaker 3: Cause everything else at that the Thanksgiving dinner I'm in for.

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Speaker 3: I just let the stuffing tenders and copy, and.

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Speaker 12: You're going to have turkey Skyline.

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Speaker 5: No, no, I missed the stuffing. I let that. I

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Speaker 5: let that tub pass me by.

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Speaker 12: Hey did you hear Scott Mantel the other night late?

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Speaker 12: I happened to be a lake. He was bad Mountain Skyline.

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Speaker 12: He's had Skyline and he's just like, man, I just

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Speaker 12: I'm not down with Scott. It was really weird, unbelievable.

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Speaker 14: I thought I was dreaming. But his co worker, whoever,

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Speaker 14: he was, that bald headed guy, Stanford, Steve Stanford. See,

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Speaker 14: he goes, dude, you know, he couldn't believe he said,

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Speaker 14: you don't like Skyline. He goes, I think it's garbage.

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Speaker 5: He's not American. Then he's not. He's Stanford. Steve knows

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Speaker 5: what he's talking about.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, absolutely, Scott Manteau, he's a big goof anyway, big goop.

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Speaker 12: We I't even got that job. Hey, I'm thinking in

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Speaker 12: this game with the Bengals, are we just can we

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Speaker 12: just is there any possibility we can just run? Chase run, run,

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Speaker 12: Chase run? It helps So thirty tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think what's going to be the most

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Speaker 3: interesting if they lose the game, Mike and they don't

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Speaker 3: run the ball, is what that looks like with with

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Speaker 3: Joe Burrow. Chase Brown is coming off five straight games

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Speaker 3: with over one hundred scrimmage scrimmage yards. If all of

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Speaker 3: a sudden Burrow comes back and that coincides with Chase

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Speaker 3: Brown struggling with the offensive line, then I think you

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Speaker 3: have to really start looking into the scheme and how

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Speaker 3: you're utilizing the running game with Joe Burrow at quarterback,

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Speaker 3: I do think that can be a talking point.

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Speaker 12: So then at that point Joe would be calling the plays,

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Speaker 12: not not that.

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Speaker 3: That or what Joe is comfortable or able to do.

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Speaker 3: If there's any limitations I think would come into play

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Speaker 3: as well.

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Speaker 6: Now is uh is uh?

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Speaker 15: Well?

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Speaker 12: The thing with Joe with his speech yesterday, it was

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Speaker 12: press comfort. I really picked up a even more admiration

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Speaker 12: for the little part he uh the way he said

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Speaker 12: what he said that hair's got to go. But the

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Speaker 12: win the way he said what he said was very admirable.

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Speaker 12: And yes, I heard guys in Vietnam that that would

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Speaker 12: just uh used to blow my mind. They would want

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Speaker 12: to go back out to the bush, and sometimes they'd

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Speaker 12: let him go, but sometimes they'd say, no, no, you

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Speaker 12: ain't going. Mentally for some reason you're not going, or

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Speaker 12: physically you're not going. But but that that's what I

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Speaker 12: was reminded me of that, So I picked up a

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Speaker 12: ton of respect for Joe. He's got a lot of courage.

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Speaker 5: Yep, without a doubt, it would be easier to just

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Speaker 5: sit out the rest of the year.

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Speaker 12: Now as far as one in a round, Toney, would

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Speaker 12: you as a quarterback, would you think he'd be safe

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Speaker 12: to do planned roll outs?

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Speaker 3: I would not, I would think so. I think that

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Speaker 3: that would be at least half of the threshold of

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Speaker 3: being able to come back is to show that you

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Speaker 3: can be successful on the move. If not, you'd just

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Speaker 3: be a sitting duck back there. Without t Higgins, they're

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Speaker 3: going to be able to cover a little bit longer.

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Speaker 3: I just think that you would be opening up the

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Speaker 3: door for some unwarranted shots if you're not able to.

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Speaker 12: Do that, okay? And is Lamar playing for sure?

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Speaker 5: Yes, yes, damn it, yep, yep.

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Speaker 12: All right, guys, you have a blessed holiday.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Mike. We appreciate your You do the same.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 3: We'll open up the phone lines and get more phone

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Speaker 3: calls in as we go. For now, we've got to

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Speaker 3: get a break. We've got to get Charlie Goldsmith to

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Speaker 3: talk Bengals Ravens next on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 7: Bengals game Plan tonight, starting at six on the official

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Speaker 3: for our guest to kick off our number two. You

879
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 3: usually hear them on Fridays, but since today has a

880
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 3: Friday feel to the show, we decided we'd bump up

881
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 3: Charlie Goldsmith. He's joining us right now to kick off

882
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 3: our number two. Charlie, what's going on?

883
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 14: Man?

884
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 11: I'm thankful for you guys. Thanks for saying that Happy Thanksgiving.

885
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 5: Oh what a god? Charlie.

886
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 3: What's your go to Thanksgiving plate look like?

887
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 5: Oh?

888
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 11: I snuck a line into my Joe Burrows story yesterday.

889
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,399
Speaker 11: I know andem picked up on it, but that's okay,

890
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 11: I'll share it. I was talking about like on top

891
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 11: of the plate, you know it was it was, you know,

892
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 11: cherry on top of the cake, but instead of cherry

893
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,760
Speaker 11: on top of the cake, I changed it to for Burrow,

894
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 11: that's the whipped cream on top of the chocolate peak

895
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 11: on pie with the black raspberry chip on the side,

896
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 11: which is when I think Thanksgiving, I go right there.

897
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 17: Wow.

898
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 3: Okay, so you go, you think of Thanksgiving, you go

899
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 3: right to Thanksgiving dessert.

900
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 11: This chocolate peak on pie that my cousins make is

901
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 11: my favorite thing. It's my favorite thing.

902
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 4: We got it before we continue. We just had to

903
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 4: fight a moment ago, Charlie about stuffing. Are you a

904
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 4: yes or no on stuffing?

905
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 11: I love stuffing. I am stunned every year that it's.

906
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 4: Not on the menu consistently settled, Tony, you lose again, Tony?

907
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 5: All right, Charlie.

908
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 3: The Bengals hope to not lose tomorrow night. How's that

909
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 3: for a transition? Joe Burrow is back, Jamar Chase is back.

910
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 3: There has been in recent seasons the issue with slow

911
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 3: starts for Joe Burrow. Now he has had an extended

912
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 3: amount of time off with the injury. Do you feel

913
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 3: like there are going to be some growing pains tomorrow night?

914
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 3: Or does he pick up kind of mid season form?

915
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 3: How do you expect just him to handle not playing

916
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 3: for a while.

917
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 11: It's something I've ant a lot about, but something I

918
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 11: think is gonna happen. What it reminds me of is

919
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 11: like in twenty twenty two, he missed all of camp

920
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 11: with the appendectomy. He got about a week and a

921
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 11: half of practice and then he faced the Steelers and

922
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 11: he threw four picks. In twenty twenty three, he missed

923
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 11: all a camp with the calf shows up week one

924
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 11: in the rains. Now he couldn't move, but he didn't

925
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 11: look anywhere near himself, And I guess we'll see what

926
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 11: his mobility looks like Thursday night as well. Now it's

927
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 11: been on my mind now as Zach Taylor, Dan Pitcher,

928
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 11: and Joe Burrow, all three of them completely disagreed with that.

929
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 11: They feel like the carryover from preseason, from training camp

930
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 11: and from week one to two.

931
00:47:58,840 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 12: Hasn't worn off.

932
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 11: They're almost talking about it like Burrow's missed two weeks

933
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,720
Speaker 11: and if he's missed two weeks or wouldn't be russed.

934
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 11: You know, obviously it's over two months. But how they've

935
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 11: spoken about it is, as we say in baseball, the

936
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 11: type of injury where you don't need a rehab assignment

937
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,399
Speaker 11: before you come back. But I guess we'll see because

938
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 11: it's a really realistic concern that'll have to play.

939
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 5: Around, Charlie.

940
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 3: They have had success running the ball as of late,

941
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 3: Chase Brown's gone five games over the one hundred yard

942
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 3: mark in total yards. Is there any concern that the

943
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 3: return of Joe Burrow can deter that or can they

944
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 3: continue to build on this success in the ground game.

945
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 11: I know, I just expressed the negativity there, but I

946
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 11: really am feeling pretty solid about the state of the offense.

947
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 11: It's still Joe Burrow we're talking about. I don't expect

948
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 11: him to be running all over the lot, but the

949
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 11: threat of Burrow's mobility compared to Flacco's does change the mask,

950
00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 11: does open up opportunities, does give you more chances, more flexibility,

951
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 11: more creativity. And then just as a whole, the offensive

952
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 11: line in the run scheme have really really progressed and improved.

953
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 11: Scam Pitcher yesterday called it the biggest difference between the

954
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 11: Week two Bengals, the last MEMBERO played in the Bengals

955
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 11: team they have right now. So I feel very strong

956
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 11: about the state of the run game. About Chase Brown,

957
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 11: under stock, undershotgun, under center, it doesn't really matter. I

958
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 11: think I think they're gonna keep running the ball up.

959
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 4: You mentioned I think last Friday when when you were

960
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 4: on with Tony that you think that that's one of

961
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 4: the more overblown narratives around this season, the under center thing.

962
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 4: Can you kind of explain why you feel that way?

963
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 11: It just all depends on who you're playing. What if

964
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 11: you're playing a team with superstar dynamic, what if you're

965
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 11: facing Kyle Hamilton at safety and you know, we'll see

966
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,479
Speaker 11: how they use them tomorrow. He's a bit banged up too.

967
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 11: And every time you go under center, they have a

968
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 11: rule where Kyle Hamilton's gonna blitz and you have slow

969
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 11: guards who can't pick up blitzers from ranges they're not expecting.

970
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 11: So in that matchup, then every time you line up

971
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 11: under center, you're inviting a negative situation for your past protection.

972
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 11: Like there are a million different examples like that of

973
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 11: how the chess match unfold. Now there are opportunities and

974
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 11: examples where under center perfectly leans into your hands and

975
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 11: leads into your advantages. And the history really does show

976
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 11: when the Bengals a demonstrated with a capital the advantage

977
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 11: and going under under center. They've done that, They've had

978
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 11: success with that, They've come up with big plays from that,

979
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 11: both with a run game and with the play action game.

980
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 11: It's funny too, like you know, the line teams are

981
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 11: a revolving door of the ping pong tables in to

982
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 11: light in the mood and ping pong tables out because

983
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 11: they're getting serious. I feel like football is a sport

984
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 11: where it's you know, you're either going under center more

985
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 11: because you feel like you need to establish the run

986
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 11: and get more answers. But then the other end of

987
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 11: that cycle is going back to shotgun because your offense

988
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,720
Speaker 11: got too stagnant. So it's not like there's one sales

989
00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 11: safe way and the Bengals of shown will.

990
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 3: Do things different the one difference tomorrow night, and it's

991
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 3: not like they've operated without one of these guys before.

992
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 3: It would be nice when Joe Burrow was back to

993
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 3: have his full complement of weapons. They won't have T Higgins.

994
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 3: We know Jamar Chase and his history against the Baltimore Ravens.

995
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,240
Speaker 3: How much will it impact this offense and the Ravens'

996
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 3: ability to game plan the Bengals when you don't have

997
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 3: T Higgins out there.

998
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 11: What you really felt last week against the Patriots when

999
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 11: Jamar was out was the lack of Yack verticality that

1000
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 11: year with the ball in your hands is separating down

1001
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 11: the field. That obviously Jamar brings to the table and

1002
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,879
Speaker 11: the Ravens have never I know, they had some good

1003
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 11: games against him in twenty twenty two, but the Ravens

1004
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,919
Speaker 11: have never really had a clear answer to stop Jamar Chase.

1005
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 11: They'll still sell out to stop Jamar. I expect that

1006
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,760
Speaker 11: to be their plan. The Bengals had their own counters

1007
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 11: to that. Last season. They featured Jamar a lot out

1008
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,959
Speaker 11: of the slot, a lot on screens. But it's also

1009
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 11: going to be one of those games where, and I

1010
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 11: believe the I want to say the Jets games. What

1011
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 11: was this game where Dan Pitcher said to the offense

1012
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 11: the night before, like, we're gonna need some people not

1013
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 11: named Jamar and t to make plays this week because

1014
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,399
Speaker 11: of what we're expecting. I think tomorrow will be another

1015
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 11: game like that where they have to find some sort

1016
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 11: of at least the threat of an explosive element, whether

1017
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 11: that's from Yasicki or Mitch Tinsley or Kenner Hudson or

1018
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 11: Charlie Jones or Yoshavas or wherever that comes from. They

1019
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 11: do need at least one more threat to keep them honest.

1020
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,280
Speaker 11: But on the whole, they're gonna run this game through Jamar.

1021
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 3: Chase on the defensive side of the ball. Charlie, are

1022
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 3: there things you can take from the previous matchup and say, Okay,

1023
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 3: the defense has taken a step in the right direction.

1024
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 3: I thought Al Golden, I thought he let it fly

1025
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 3: a little bit more. I thought he changed up the

1026
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 3: looks and you saw some success against New England. Did

1027
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 3: you see things against the Patriots the youth you think

1028
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 3: are sustainable and things they can build on to continue

1029
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 3: to get better as a defense what I liked.

1030
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 11: And they did this early in the year as well

1031
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 11: on third downs, and then for whatever reason, they went

1032
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 11: away from it a bit. Then they brought it back,

1033
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 11: that creativity from a third down defense perspective, Like I've

1034
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 11: got my notes right here. There was a play where

1035
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 11: they blitzed dack Hill and DJ Ivy and had Chills

1036
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,760
Speaker 11: side takeaway a guy quickly. They had Chris Jenkins dropping

1037
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 11: back and covered once. They had one third down where

1038
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 11: they played it pretty or excuse me. They had one

1039
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 11: third down where they had three defensive linemen and three

1040
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 11: super high safeties like a prevent defense, and then the

1041
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 11: very next third down they go all in cover zero,

1042
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 11: catch straight man of blitz nearly get to pick six

1043
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 11: to DJ Tournament would have won that game in the

1044
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 11: final few minutes from Cincinnati. So being able to lean

1045
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 11: into more of that is the next step for this defense.

1046
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 11: A stematic creativity that they felt like they couldn't do.

1047
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 11: The biggest thing they did last week was they tackled,

1048
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 11: like finally, and so much of why they had been

1049
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 11: so bad just came down to that. Now, I'm still

1050
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 11: very worried about these rookie linebackers, and I'm very very

1051
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 11: worried about these line We're worried about these rookie linebackers

1052
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 11: against the Ravens team that'll do the thing that the

1053
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 11: Bengals defense has struggled with the most recently, which is

1054
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,320
Speaker 11: shotgun two tight end sets that plays into the Ravens

1055
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 11: hands pretty well. But if they tackle and they have

1056
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 11: some ideas, they have a chance.

1057
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:22,439
Speaker 4: Do you think that Al Golden maybe unlocked a new

1058
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 4: role for Geno Stone, saw him up at the line

1059
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 4: of scrimmage a little bit more, saw him blitz a

1060
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 4: little bit, and overall looked like an entirely different player

1061
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 4: than the guy we saw the previous week against Pittsburgh.

1062
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 4: What do you make to turnaround last week at Genostone?

1063
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 6: I think the.

1064
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:43,399
Speaker 11: Way he tackled early in the game, like he saw

1065
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 11: a ball go through the basket almost and you saw

1066
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 11: that gear start to turn for him, playing with confidence

1067
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 11: and playing with momentum, which he hasn't been able to

1068
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 11: do nearly enough of in the Bengals uniform. Now, while

1069
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 11: you know, if he tackles better, you know what you'll

1070
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 11: take that, You'll take that baseline safety play.

1071
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 12: Now.

1072
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 11: I don't think Geno Stone as all of a sudden

1073
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 11: overnight turned into this dynamic playmaker who's going to be

1074
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 11: lining up all over the field and changing the map

1075
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 11: and you know being you know von Bell with all

1076
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 11: the ways he keeps you off guard and all the

1077
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,760
Speaker 11: different ways he has the ability to make last plays.

1078
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 11: I just don't think that's you know, Stone. I think

1079
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 11: it's more likely that he just had the best game

1080
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 11: of his Bengals career and it's not going to consistently

1081
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 11: be at that level. But if he can just keep

1082
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:32,240
Speaker 11: tackling and keep that confidence up, you can work with that.

1083
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 11: That's that's fine.

1084
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 3: Uh Miles Murphy, Charlie, what about him? We've seen him

1085
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 3: getting home, not all the way, but pressures have been up.

1086
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 3: I feel like I've noticed him more on the defensive

1087
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 3: side of the ball.

1088
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:45,879
Speaker 5: Are we seeing.

1089
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 3: A growth now from Miles Murphy as the season rolls on?

1090
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 11: Honestly, I have the bar set higher for Miles. He's

1091
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 11: been playing some of the best games of his career.

1092
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Speaker 11: He showed up against a run. He has just a

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Speaker 11: better bend, rip it off the edge that you've seen

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Speaker 11: a few times really show up. But he's still not

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00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 11: finishing it off, and he's still not killing drives. He

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Speaker 11: has the ability and the traits to do those, that's

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Speaker 11: the next step. One other thing I've been very impressed

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Speaker 11: with is his hustle. I think it's very notable that

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Speaker 11: Al Golden's kind of money quote on Mauth the other

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00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 11: day was he just has a different look in his

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Speaker 11: eye and he's carrying himself with a little more of

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Speaker 11: what you want to see from your theoretical standout defensive end.

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00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 11: But for me, the bar is at that position for

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Speaker 11: a guy with that pick is kill drives. And while

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00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 11: he's done that once or twice or a couple of times,

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Speaker 11: he still hasn't been doing that even though or really regularly,

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Speaker 11: even though these have been some of the best games

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Speaker 11: for his career. So you know, it's a quarterback who

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00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 11: he's shown he can chase down and Lamar Jackson his

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00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 11: speed really needs to be a big difference maker this week.

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00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 3: Charlie Howe Overall offense, Defense, special teams. What's the path

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00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 3: tomorrow night? To find a way to beat the Ravens

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Speaker 3: and to essentially keep the season alive.

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Speaker 11: You just have to find one way to create a turnover,

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00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 11: whether that's you know, Geno Stone, maybe doing some more

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00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,240
Speaker 11: of the things we're talking about, combined with a wrinkle

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00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 11: where maybe you can beat the Ravens on a specific play.

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00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 11: I'm okay with maybe even being a bit more volatile

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00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 11: over aggressive, leaving yourself susceptible with a play call, not

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Speaker 11: with you your tackling or anything like that, but susceptible

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Speaker 11: with a play call to getting beat deep if it

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Speaker 11: gives you a better shot for that type of turnover,

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Speaker 11: because I still don't see how this defense gets stops

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Speaker 11: on a down to down basis, and then the offense

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00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 11: just needs to stay a fishing avoid negative plays, keep

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00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 11: burrowing situations where he's comfortable, keep burrowing situations where he

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00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 11: doesn't have to feel like he's a hero. And if

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Speaker 11: he has that, even though it's his first game back,

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00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 11: he'll have the answers, he'll have the momentum, he'll have

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Speaker 11: the ability to more than keep you in this game,

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00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 11: to lead you to a win. Possibly in this game

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Speaker 11: with a turnover and some help around him on the

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Speaker 11: other side.

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Speaker 3: Also Charlie happening this weekend. They call it the game.

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00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 3: It's Ohio State and Michigan, And you know, earlier in

1136
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 3: the week, Austin kind of just downplayed it, as you know,

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00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 3: it doesn't really matter as much as it did. And

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Speaker 3: here we are later in the week. It's starting to

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00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 3: become real again for Austin. What do you make of

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00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 3: this rendition of the game and does Ohio State break

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00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 3: this streak?

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Speaker 11: I wonder if this is finally the year where the

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00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 11: playmaking on their defense fully imposes their wealth, their will

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00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 11: fully takes over the game. This to me is a

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00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 11: big Matt Patricia game with what he can do to

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00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 11: maximize on that and set the tone that way, with

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00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 11: the scheme, with the play calling, with the aggression they have,

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00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 11: with the unbelievable talent they have on that defense, and

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00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 11: the Michigan guys they're counting on, I believe, some pretty

1150
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 11: young guys. But hey, you know, Michigan. You know you

1151
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 11: don't need me to tell you that Michigan has been

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00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 11: pretty good in a still.

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00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 4: Healthy If you're Duke Tobin, rvel Reese, Caden McDonald or

1154
00:58:58,960 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 4: Caleb downs.

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00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 11: Oh, I'm not there yet.

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00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 5: I'm not yet, Charlie.

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00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 3: I respect that that you've not turned the page yet.

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00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 11: I'm not there yet.

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00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 3: You're living in the present, Charlie. He's not there yet.

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Speaker 3: He says, you're living in the present, and I appreciate that.

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00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 11: Yeah, you only do what you can do.

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Speaker 5: You know, it makes a lot of sense. What's it

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00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 5: looked like? What? What's your what's your Thanksgiving weekend look like?

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Speaker 7: Here?

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00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 5: Charlie? What are you gonna be doing?

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00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 11: What am I going to be doing? The families in town,

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00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 11: you know, with a whole family, you know, most of

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00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:35,479
Speaker 11: my families in Cincinnati anyway. Truthfully, I heard Utopia too

1169
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 11: was really good.

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Speaker 12: Oh.

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Speaker 11: I think some of the family might go see that.

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Speaker 5: Interesting.

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00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 11: I don't think there's a UC basketball game this weekend,

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00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 11: so that won't be on the agenda. Keeping a low key,

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00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 11: I honestly I'll watch some film too, hang out with

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Speaker 11: the family, get ready for next week.

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Speaker 5: Love it, Charlie.

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Speaker 3: We're certainly thankful for you here on Cincy three to sixty.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate your time. Have a great holiday, and we'll

1180
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Speaker 3: talk again next week.

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Speaker 5: Travels Chuck, thanks man, Thanks guys.

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Speaker 3: Here he is, Charlie Goldsmith, there he is, he's you

1183
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 3: know what I respect?

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01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 5: What's that?

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01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 3: A lot of these a lot of these folks that

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01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 3: follow football and the cover teams now they're already diving

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01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 3: into the mock draft stuff. Charlie's like, no, it's not

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01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 3: time for six games left. There's six games left on

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01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 3: this schedule. Let's focus on the now. And I appreciate

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Speaker 3: that from Charlie, just as I appreciate our listeners and

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Speaker 3: our talkbackers. And we'll get to that next. Your talkbacks

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Speaker 3: on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 15: Hey, it's Mallleger. Did you miss yesterday's show. You can

1194
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 15: listen to it now. Search the Mulleggers Show on the

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01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 15: iHeartRadio app and join me this afternoon live starting at

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Speaker 15: three oh five on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 5: It's that time for talkbacks.

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Speaker 18: Press the microphone and record your message for Austin and tone.

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Speaker 5: Please keep it.

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Speaker 18: Clean and dope, be mean and a sprinkle, sprinkle, drip drip.

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01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 5: It's that time. But talkbacks.

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01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 18: It's our favorite tarter since three sixty So Austin, buddy,

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01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 18: play those backs on your screen and please ride out

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01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 18: to Sabotag.

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01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 14: Here we go.

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Speaker 5: It's our Thanksgiving Eve edition. Here Austin of talkbacks, Yes,

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Speaker 5: indeed it is. Yes, indeed, let's do it. Yes, indeed

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01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 5: it is. Let's just do it. Make sure I have

1209
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 5: these all loaded properly. Let's do it.

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01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 4: Let's know you just don't want to screw it up

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01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 4: on an important day.

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01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 5: We get it like today, we get he.

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Speaker 19: Then talking Tunkey, Tony and Austin with the Bengals playing

1214
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 19: on Thanksgiving. It's got me wondering has Joe Burrow had

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01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 19: turned duck in before? Got an important question for you guys?

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01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 19: Stop bench cut turkey, duck chicken. Happy Thanksgiving gentlemen.

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Speaker 3: I'm a chicken guy, so I'll start chicken. I will

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01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 3: bench turkey because I do I do. I don't eat

1219
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 3: turkey much during the year, but I will indulge in

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01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 3: a lot of turkey tomorrow.

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01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 14: Uh.

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01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 4: And then duck is kind most of my meat consumption.

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01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 4: It's like sixty forty chicken turkey. Okay, I eat turkey

1224
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:17,479
Speaker 4: just but I don't eat a lot of red meat

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Speaker 4: hardly at all. So I'll start chicken. I'll go turkey.

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01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 4: I've never had duck, but I would try it. I've

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01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 4: heard it's really good.

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Speaker 5: Okay, as good as my wits.

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Speaker 13: Yes, happy Turkey, drop me everybody.

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Speaker 7: Tony, I hope you're feeling better.

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Speaker 6: Atti.

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Speaker 7: I hope your boy.

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Speaker 20: Julian Ess saying beats Michigan this weekend. I hope the

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Speaker 20: Bengals can find a way to get a win tomorrow

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Speaker 20: night with Joey Head Bamburro there. Take care of everybody to

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Speaker 20: have a great Thanksgivin. Thank you, Kevin, Thank you, keV.

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Speaker 20: Happy Thanksgiving, Triple Gobble, thank you.

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Speaker 21: Hey, guys, it's Jeff and New Richmond. I just wanted

1239
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 21: to call real quick and say thank you for everything

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01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 21: that you guys do. Have a listeners, callers, talkbackers, frequent

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01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 21: guests that we have every single week. It takes a

1242
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 21: village to make this show as special as it is,

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01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 21: and I want to wish each and every one of

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Speaker 21: you a wonderful Thanksgiving with your family and friends. Take

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01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 21: care and I love you all.

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Speaker 22: Oh wow, Jeff, thank you, appreciate you man Happy.

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Speaker 5: I was walking out of TQO Stadium.

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Speaker 23: I could have swore I heard this coming from an

1249
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 23: alleyway just one rough the weekend man.

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Speaker 5: Anyway, what's this.

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01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 7: Jill Burrows coming back? Jill Burrow's coming back.

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Speaker 5: Give me one little hit a Hopium. Let's go happy Thanksgiving.

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01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 5: Let's go hoping hoping Hopium. They say.

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Speaker 24: It's the Lord Happy Thanksgiving talkback Nation. I hope everybody

1255
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 24: has some time off and gets to spend time with

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Speaker 24: family and friends. Speaking of time off, does Moager ever work?

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01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,479
Speaker 24: And when he does work, he only works two days

1258
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 24: a week at either a bar or restaurant. I would

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01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 24: sure love to have his job.

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Speaker 17: You know.

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01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 4: Let us not forget that Moe is part of the

1262
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 4: pregame show with you and Ken Brew home Bengals games.

1263
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:43,440
Speaker 4: He's also the pre and postgame host of UC Bearcats

1264
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 4: football and basketball, and he does his show and you

1265
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Speaker 4: know what, Tomorrow, Thanksgiving Day, Moegar is hosting pregame Sports

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Speaker 4: Talk Wow ahead of countdown to kick right here. So

1267
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Speaker 4: the Moager slander will not be tolerated.

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Speaker 24: Oh I forgot my Bengal prediction. Yeah, we all dangled

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Speaker 24: five Ravens twenty eight cool?

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Speaker 25: He said, Hey, Tony, and I first want to say

1271
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Speaker 25: I want to wish you Tony and Aus in a

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Speaker 25: very very happy, wonderful Thanksgiving and I just feel really

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Speaker 25: grateful that, you know, we have you two to listen

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Speaker 25: to each day. And I'm also grateful that as hard

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Speaker 25: as it is to follow our teams, we're lucky to

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01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 25: have two professional teams in our city and we have

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Speaker 25: uc an X Shoe and the soccer team as well.

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Speaker 25: So have a great Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 5: Thank you you too. We appreciate you. It's Jack Ever

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Speaker 5: and Kyle Joe.

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Speaker 26: We all saw the Kendrick Perkins Sanders is the most

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Speaker 26: powerful black man two thousand.

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Speaker 5: And nine Obama quote. We didn't, you know, we all

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Speaker 5: know it's rage bait.

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Speaker 7: We all know it's clickbait whatever.

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Speaker 4: Just so, just so, just before you continue, you don't

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Speaker 4: have to live in a world where you consume the

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Speaker 4: content of Kendrick Perkins. Yeah, I don't. I didn't see that.

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Speaker 4: This is the first time hearing of it. Yeah, that's

1290
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Speaker 4: just so you know, it's it's easy to not engage

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Speaker 4: with this nonsense.

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Speaker 26: I'm not going to get too into it. I just

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Speaker 26: wanted to point out a couple of things. One Obama

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Speaker 26: had Osama been lying assassinated in twenty eleven post two

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Speaker 26: thousand and nine, and he's not dead favorite all time

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Speaker 26: clickbait quote just dropped.

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Speaker 5: I love it.

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Speaker 27: Yeah, come on DP fifteen, Audie d am w g Man,

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Speaker 27: Well tell us.

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Speaker 7: I woke up super grateful today. It's almost Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 27: It's that time of year we kind of get reflective

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Speaker 27: on all the things that have happened this past year.

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Speaker 7: And I love the show.

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Speaker 27: I listened to some point almost every day and I

1305
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 27: just wanted to drop a talk back and speak for

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Speaker 27: talkback Nation.

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Speaker 7: Man, we are super grateful for you all do a

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Speaker 7: great job.

1309
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 27: Love the show, keep up the great work, and hope

1310
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 27: you guys have a wonderful holiday weekend.

1311
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 5: Let's go, thanks man, Let's go.

1312
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 28: Hey, guys, can you ask Moe a question? Has he

1313
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 28: been trying to work in six seven into his shows

1314
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 28: us this week? Because I keep hearing him say he's like,

1315
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 28: you know, he was out for six or seven weeks.

1316
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 12: Uh had six or seven targets.

1317
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 28: Like it's been a couple times this week, and it

1318
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 28: just seems if if he was doing that, it'd be

1319
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 28: pretty funny.

1320
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 5: I don't think Mo would partake in that.

1321
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 4: I would not put it past him though, No, just

1322
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 4: as a joke to himself, he would do that.

1323
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, Hello, this is.

1324
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 17: The President Ronald Reagan and a Well, I'm especially thankful

1325
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 17: for the Auto Pen. I have been pardoning dozens and

1326
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 17: dozens of turkeys the last couple of days. Oh and

1327
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 17: speaking of Thanksgiving, I am extremely thankful for you, both

1328
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 17: of you and this show, and frankly for all the

1329
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 17: contributors to it. Have a very happy, safe Thanksgiving everyone.

1330
01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 22: Thank you, mister President, Thank you appreciate that at the

1331
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 22: Auto Pen. Oh, great sun, damn, damn.

1332
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 5: If you know, you know, let's get the band back together.

1333
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 5: Let's do this thing. Oh, I love it. I can

1334
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 5: only imagine what that means. Well, we used to do.

1335
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 3: Ah, we used to do a reading bar pub crawl

1336
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 3: on the night before Thanksgiving. And yes, this is where

1337
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:40,560
Speaker 3: he got hit by a car, did damage to the

1338
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:45,640
Speaker 3: car and got sighted for it. This used to be

1339
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 3: one of the main events of the year. I mean

1340
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 3: we we don't just limit it the bars. We go

1341
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 3: into Ponycakes, we go into gast I mean everywhere we

1342
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 3: were going into. And that song Austin, when you heard

1343
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 3: that song on a jukebox, you better pay out because

1344
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 3: we're leaving. That was our That was the signal because

1345
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:08,560
Speaker 3: it was such a big group of people once you

1346
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 3: heard black Betty, it's time to go.

1347
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 5: That's good.

1348
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 29: I like that.

1349
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:15,680
Speaker 30: Tony Pike, Hall of Famer, Austin Elmore, steadfast warrior of

1350
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 30: the airwaves.

1351
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 5: Stump from Ross.

1352
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:22,719
Speaker 30: Jim, I'm calling to wish you everybody at since three sixty,

1353
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 30: all the listeners, Moeger, Tarn, Bland, Drew and the ones

1354
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 30: and twos the best Thanksgiving ever.

1355
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 5: It will be for me.

1356
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 30: My sister has been in kidney failure for years and

1357
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:39,800
Speaker 30: she just received a kidney Thanksgiving ever.

1358
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:43,680
Speaker 5: Guys, Awesome, That's awesome, Jim, that is awesome. Congratulations and

1359
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 5: hope you have a fantastic Thanksgiving.

1360
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 31: Tony Audi TJ E Side, Thank you guys and all

1361
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 31: the talkbackers for the daily entertainment. ADDI I grew up

1362
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 31: brooting for the Targos, love the Bulls, been cheering for

1363
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 31: the Bucks since like fifth grade. Suck a tea to

1364
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:00,680
Speaker 31: you in for all that common outy years on, Zach

1365
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 31: and Mike Brown still rile me up. That's what makes

1366
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 31: it fun, Tony. Pretty much all of your standpoints are facts.

1367
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 31: You're a fact machine spinning up facts on local sports.

1368
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 31: Thanks for your superior and intelligent takes on Cindy Sports.

1369
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 31: Thanks talkbackers for making me laugh daily happy Thanksgiving.

1370
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 5: I'd just like to keep it at that, you know,

1371
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 5: kind of my standpoint.

1372
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:23,560
Speaker 4: Wow, that's awesome. I didn't realize we had that much commonality.

1373
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 10: H Oh.

1374
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 32: It's a great sports few days. Like you said, it's

1375
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:32,960
Speaker 32: a great games on Thanksgiving, great games on Friday, yes,

1376
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:35,839
Speaker 32: obviously Saturday and Sunday.

1377
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:36,840
Speaker 5: Saturday.

1378
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 32: I'll tell you Lamar Jackson has not thrown a touchdown

1379
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:42,800
Speaker 32: pass the last two weeks. I know he didn't throw

1380
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:45,560
Speaker 32: one last week because they killed one of my parlays.

1381
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 32: I think if you can slow down, Henry, we got

1382
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 32: we got a good chance for the W.

1383
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 5: All right, the W. Let's go W.

1384
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:56,799
Speaker 7: Hey, Tony and Austin.

1385
01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:02,560
Speaker 5: What is Austin Elmore's middle name? Michigan? Gonna hand you

1386
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:08,719
Speaker 5: that el Moore? Yes, Sam, Yes.

1387
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 4: As much as I hate that points points for creativity,

1388
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:15,479
Speaker 4: points for being part of the show, I respect it.

1389
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 33: Hey, Austin, Tony, this is Steve down here in Parkland, Florida.

1390
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 33: Have Thanksgiving to you guys in case I doubt you're

1391
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 33: on the air tomorrow, So hope you guys have a

1392
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 33: good one. John from Boston, I think we need to

1393
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:35,559
Speaker 33: talk about maybe a weekly sponsored segment.

1394
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 7: Let's look into some sponsorship. That guy said is just.

1395
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:40,559
Speaker 33: A natural on the radio. I think if we did

1396
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,599
Speaker 33: some digging, he's probably got a radio show somewhere.

1397
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 5: You know.

1398
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:47,679
Speaker 4: I'm going on the air with some guy from Boston

1399
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:50,760
Speaker 4: tomorrow morning. They've asked me to come on and talk

1400
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 4: talk about the Bengals Ravens game. I'm gonna ask him,

1401
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 4: you know, John and Boston. John, He's gonna be like, Yeah,

1402
01:11:58,040 --> 01:11:59,639
Speaker 4: we got about forty of them that call the show

1403
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 4: every day, you know, John.

1404
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 34: Yeah, it's Greg Sharon Good. You know, I've been listening

1405
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 34: to this fantastic show for four years now. I enjoy

1406
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 34: it every day. And this Thanksgiving I'm very thankful.

1407
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:16,679
Speaker 5: Tony you got your job back, me too.

1408
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 34: And then you and Austin will continue on as a

1409
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 34: team to do this fantastic show. So happy Thanksgiving to

1410
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 34: both of you guys and your families.

1411
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 5: Thank you appreciate that. Greg, Thanks Greg.

1412
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 35: Tony and Austin elvi Ken of Utah here. I just

1413
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 35: wanted to wish you and my fellow talking backers theyre

1414
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 35: having Thanksgiving. We're on our way to Southern Utah. Where

1415
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 35: we will spend the holiday tomorrow at Rife Canyon and

1416
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:52,840
Speaker 35: at Zion National Park, and we will be watching Joe

1417
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:56,720
Speaker 35: Burrow and the Bengals from an Airbnb in connect So

1418
01:12:57,600 --> 01:12:58,560
Speaker 35: happy Thanksgiving.

1419
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 5: No beagleson, Let's go. It ain't too bad there, that's

1420
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 5: a good way to joy it.

1421
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:04,720
Speaker 7: Now.

1422
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:08,720
Speaker 36: If you broke both of your hands and Doc says, sorry, Bud,

1423
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 36: you can't use your hands for three months, which meant

1424
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 36: you couldn't eat a skyline, cheeze coney or cut into

1425
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 36: a three ways, you'd be miserable.

1426
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 5: Cut it off.

1427
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 36: But if you somehow got better in two months, you'd

1428
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:21,640
Speaker 36: be right back in there. Because you're an eater and

1429
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 36: you love to eat. Joe Burrow's a football player and

1430
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:27,559
Speaker 36: he loves to play football. Damn right, I get it, man.

1431
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 36: You want to get in there, do what you do best.

1432
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:33,599
Speaker 36: Be an eater, be a football player. Yeah, go out

1433
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 36: there and win.

1434
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:34,719
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1435
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll tell you what now.

1436
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 37: Austin, Austin Antoni's when we drew from South Bend, got

1437
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 37: a lot to be thankful for. Great family, great kids,

1438
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:47,440
Speaker 37: great job, great business.

1439
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 5: Great Cincinnati talk.

1440
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 37: I remember when I was a kid, my dad had

1441
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 37: a high tech radio for at least for back then,

1442
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 37: and I used to tune in to WLW and listen

1443
01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 37: to Bob Trumpy walk around the house trying to get

1444
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 37: that reception. So I'm really thankful for you guys in Mo.

1445
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 5: It's really quality talk.

1446
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 7: Uh. I just enjoy it.

1447
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 5: Have a have a great Thanksgiving. Thank you, thank you.

1448
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 5: I appreciate that.

1449
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 29: That repping the city out here, Sonny hots On or

1450
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 29: what updy?

1451
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 5: First things? First, one to say happy Thanksgiving everybody back

1452
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 5: in Cincinnati, miss my hometown. Happy Thanksgiving to all my

1453
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 5: sense he peeps on the radio on talk back.

1454
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 38: You know how it goes man Without you guys on

1455
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 38: this radio show, Man, I swear I'll be lost because

1456
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 38: this is keep this keeps me close to home.

1457
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 5: You feel me. You gotta understand. Keep me close to home.

1458
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 5: And Bengals will win thirty one to twenty eight. Run

1459
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 5: the ball.

1460
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 29: I want to run it down the rat bird's throat

1461
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:38,639
Speaker 29: and no coach sat they see still hot.

1462
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 5: You better win. Keeps reminding God, I love it, he

1463
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,679
Speaker 5: lets he lets Tom Turkey.

1464
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 1: I'm just going to wish you to a happy Thanksgiving.

1465
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 7: A haughty I'll try to call you during the Bengals

1466
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 7: postgame show. I might be thicking my neck out.

1467
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 5: Yeah time. I hope you make it to the postgame.

1468
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:04,720
Speaker 5: You can care for a double up.

1469
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 38: My go to plate easy ham, homemade mashed potatoes, some

1470
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 38: gravy of course, some collar greens with some smoked meat

1471
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:17,000
Speaker 38: in it. Of course, chicken or turkey, whatever is your preference.

1472
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 38: The bird is the bird for the holiday. You did

1473
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 38: what I'm saying, a slice of cheesecake. Yo, gotta have

1474
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 38: macaroni and cheese. Not just any type of macaroni and cheese.

1475
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:27,519
Speaker 38: You need to be smacking macing coming out the oven

1476
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:29,719
Speaker 38: with the crispy burn edges on the side.

1477
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 5: That's smacking macing with some football serving.

1478
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 4: Talk, he says, smacking mac from anti ham and anti cheesecake.

1479
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:38,559
Speaker 5: Smacking mac.

1480
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:41,599
Speaker 23: There's some sort of a wck white things getting giveaway

1481
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:42,680
Speaker 23: happening here in Baltimore.

1482
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 7: Dang on, what is that?

1483
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 23: I can see it now. That's a helicopter and it's

1484
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 23: coming this way. That's some sort of large banner on it.

1485
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 23: It says Happy thanks Giving from sency three sixty.

1486
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 7: Somethings following from it. But that's not a sky diver.

1487
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 5: Well, dirty rat hed Hay, Thanksgivings go Danglard, thank you,

1488
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:10,639
Speaker 5: good job, Hey.

1489
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:11,639
Speaker 7: Guys, Marcus Roagrove.

1490
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:16,639
Speaker 39: Happy Thanksgiving to you guys and your families. I'm always

1491
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 39: thankful for the both of you and the show. It

1492
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 39: makes noon to three every single day a whole lot easier.

1493
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:26,720
Speaker 39: And also want to say that I am not a

1494
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:27,639
Speaker 39: stuffings guy.

1495
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 7: Never was just not very good.

1496
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 5: Damn it, Marcus Smart, I knew it.

1497
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 40: Buddy asked me this question. I thought it was pretty interesting.

1498
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:42,759
Speaker 40: If you were a fan of any team besides the Chiefs, Ravens, Bills,

1499
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:45,520
Speaker 40: or Charterers, you know, because they all got great quarterbacks.

1500
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:50,160
Speaker 40: Would you take Burrow and Chase but you also have

1501
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:53,639
Speaker 40: to bring along Mike Brown, Zach Taylor, Duke Token.

1502
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 7: Would you do it?

1503
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 5: Yes?

1504
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 40: Yes, I said no, because yeah, you're gonna get Burrow

1505
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 40: and Chase, bring your seven years or whatever, but you

1506
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:03,080
Speaker 40: got to deal with Mike Brown and Dacktail and that

1507
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:03,920
Speaker 40: ownership forever.

1508
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 5: No one's quarterbacks. We talk about an important position, yes,

1509
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 5: in sports?

1510
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 7: Correct?

1511
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 41: What do you think Zach Taylor and Duke Tobin's favorite

1512
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:20,759
Speaker 41: Thanksgiving Day foods are unbuttered roll mashed potatoes with no gravy.

1513
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 5: Maybe Mac Smack, No, jeez, just Mack just back.

1514
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:31,839
Speaker 42: Hey, Geno, this is Duke Tobin of the Cincinnati Bengals.

1515
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:34,680
Speaker 42: We really value how you took that pay cut this year,

1516
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:37,720
Speaker 42: so moving into next season, we'd love to offer you

1517
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 42: the deal of a lifetime for seventeen weekly payments of

1518
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 42: nineteen ninety five, you two can be the Bengals safety.

1519
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 5: What do you say? Hey, Y'allice is Ryan?

1520
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 11: Many gobbles and many thanks to y'all.

1521
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 5: And who day, Thank you? Ryan?

1522
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 13: Ked be close to home and b I'm rocking with you, Ronnie.

1523
01:17:57,920 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 5: Ron But have you heard about this?

1524
01:17:59,640 --> 01:17:59,680
Speaker 12: What?

1525
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 5: Oh my god? No way, yes, bawling the freaking jos.

1526
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 17: What's up?

1527
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 11: Tell you?

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01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:17,600
Speaker 5: Also, Joe and Baltimore?

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01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 7: What up?

1530
01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 16: Joe?

1531
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 7: What wish you guys?

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01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:20,600
Speaker 5: Big and Baltim Thanksgiving.

1533
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 10: I'm gonna be there tomorrow night to watch our boys

1534
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 10: take down the Ravens.

1535
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 5: We'll bring it home, Joe.

1536
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 7: It's gonna be a big win. Whoday, Go Bengals, Go

1537
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:30,759
Speaker 7: bear Cats.

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01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 5: There it is?

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01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 12: Come on?

1540
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 14: That was it?

1541
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 12: Come on?

1542
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 5: That's our Thanksgiving talk?

1543
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 3: You know what, man, I'm thankful for our talkbackers and

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01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:41,560
Speaker 3: listeners as of min Thanks to everyone that that that

1545
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:45,320
Speaker 3: expressed that today we have a football in the Natti.

1546
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:47,519
Speaker 3: When we return, maybe a little bit of what Joe

1547
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:50,639
Speaker 3: Burrow had to say in his press conference yesterday. Next

1548
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:53,120
Speaker 3: on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

1549
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:57,679
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow is back and he plays here on ESPN

1550
01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:01,760
Speaker 2: fifteen thirty, the Official Hall look the Cincinnati Bengals.

1551
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:05,200
Speaker 5: Actual praise will have been on Natty, brought to.

1552
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 2: You by Bud Light on ESPN fifteen thirty, the Official

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01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 2: Home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

1554
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:15,639
Speaker 3: All right, welcome back, a little football in the Natti

1555
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 3: for your Thanksgiving Eve afternoon. Keegan Nickoson will join us

1556
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 3: at two o'clock just so you can prepare them. We'll

1557
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:26,760
Speaker 3: make our weekly picks right after that. Austin, let's just

1558
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 3: let's go to yesterday and hearing from Joe Burrow and

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01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 3: Jamar Chase. I know we kind of talked about, you know,

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01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:37,559
Speaker 3: the overall gist of what Joe Burrow had to say,

1561
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 3: and you know, I give him credit because I do.

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01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:45,439
Speaker 3: I think it just showed the leadership that Joe Burrow

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01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:47,879
Speaker 3: operates with and it's something that I can certainly respect

1564
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 3: of understanding kind of what goes into that rehab process

1565
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 3: and getting back to full health and being there for

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01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:55,599
Speaker 3: your team when I do think it would have been

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01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 3: easier to just kind of say, hey, well, we'll see

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01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 3: you next year. I think that from Joe Burrow is

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01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 3: is awesome. Anything else that he said Austin that stood

1570
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 3: out to you from yesterday when he spoke to the media, Yeah,

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01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:09,720
Speaker 3: there was.

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01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 4: A couple of things that I found interesting. I know

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01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 4: mo I talked to him yesterday and I asked, I

1574
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 4: asked him, like, what does he want to hear from

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01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:24,800
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow? Sure, and he said he wanted to hear

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01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:28,720
Speaker 4: that he was one hundred percent. Well, this was an

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01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 4: exchange between Jay Morrison and Joe Burrow.

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01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:33,760
Speaker 5: I assume it's fair to say that it was not

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01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:36,760
Speaker 5: one hundred percent. Where would you put it right now?

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01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 41: It's tough to say I feel confident that I can

1581
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:40,560
Speaker 41: go out and do everything that I need to do

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01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:41,559
Speaker 41: to win a game.

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01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 4: Doesn't necessarily say that it's one hundred percent, right, doesn't

1584
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:51,640
Speaker 4: really put an estimation on it. That gives me a

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01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 4: little bit of pause. However, Joe did try to explain

1586
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:59,559
Speaker 4: why he didn't end up playing against the Patriots.

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01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 41: I was feeling good and Wednesday, Thursday, practice happened. I

1588
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 41: took a lot of reps. My body was pre sore,

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01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 41: not necessarily my toe. My toe feels great, but just

1590
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:12,280
Speaker 41: the rest of my body being back.

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01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 7: Out there for so long.

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01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:16,600
Speaker 41: And uh, I was confident that I could get that

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01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 41: right in order to play on Sunday. But Zach ended

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01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:25,720
Speaker 41: up thinking that Thursday was it was better to wait

1595
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:26,599
Speaker 41: the extra four days.

1596
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:27,799
Speaker 7: And I think that was a good decision.

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01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:31,360
Speaker 4: Okay, so says no soreness in the toe, says the

1598
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:35,839
Speaker 4: toe feels great, but didn't say that it's one hundred percent.

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Speaker 5: So that I found to be interesting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think the idea of you know, wasn't

1601
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 3: one hundred percent, didn't feel great after a couple of days,

1602
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 3: but was okay to do it. And I think it's

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01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:48,400
Speaker 3: something to be said that Zach kind of came and said, okay,

1604
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:49,559
Speaker 3: let's let's push back then.

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01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he did say that, you know, it was

1606
01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 4: ultimately Zach's decision, and you know, the medical people talk,

1607
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 4: Joe talk, everybody talked together, and it was on Zach

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01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:01,720
Speaker 4: to decide what he wants to do. And I think

1609
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:06,080
Speaker 4: it's fair if you know, Joe is obviously admitting after

1610
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 4: two or three days of practice, I was pretty sore.

1611
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 5: My body was pretty sore.

1612
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:12,800
Speaker 4: So imagine how sore he would be after playing a

1613
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:15,599
Speaker 4: game against the Patriots and then having to turn around

1614
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:16,680
Speaker 4: and play a Thursday night game.

1615
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:17,120
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1616
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:21,200
Speaker 4: So I understand where Zach's coming from with that. And

1617
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:23,160
Speaker 4: you know, I think one of the parts we haven't

1618
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 4: maybe talked about that much is these Thursday night games

1619
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:28,680
Speaker 4: are tough, especially when you travel, especially when you're you know,

1620
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 4: on the road in the AFC North. Joe's going to

1621
01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:34,680
Speaker 4: be fresh, Jamar is going to be fresh. That's at

1622
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 4: least a good thing.

1623
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:39,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, without a doubt, anything from Jamar Chase that stood out.

1624
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 4: I watched that whole thing, and that was a guy

1625
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 4: who had no interest in talking to anybody.

1626
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:48,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I and I was remember we asked a

1627
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:53,960
Speaker 3: question like does what happened? Does that influence his relationship

1628
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 3: with the media?

1629
01:22:56,720 --> 01:23:01,200
Speaker 4: Like, well, I think I'll be honest, Yesterday I watched

1630
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 4: that and it was just question after question after question

1631
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:09,679
Speaker 4: about it, and I thought to myself, dear God, don't

1632
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 4: they understand he's not going to give you anything to

1633
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:18,920
Speaker 4: My perception of Jamar is that he doesn't regret it.

1634
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 4: Jalen Ramsey crossed the line, so Jamar crossed it back.

1635
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 4: It sucks that he had to miss a game, but

1636
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 4: he doesn't feel bad about it, and he hates that

1637
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:32,639
Speaker 4: it's now been blown all out of proportion and everybody

1638
01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:35,160
Speaker 4: says all these terrible things about him when who knows

1639
01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:37,680
Speaker 4: what was said or done by Jalen Ramsey to spur it,

1640
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 4: and Jamar just kind of has to sit there and

1641
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:43,599
Speaker 4: take it, and he's dealing with it. And the questions

1642
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:47,120
Speaker 4: yesterday I thought were just like give it a break,

1643
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:51,800
Speaker 4: And now that was just my perception of it. And

1644
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:55,120
Speaker 4: I think maybe he'll get back to his old self eventually.

1645
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:59,759
Speaker 4: But you lose another game, you miss out on it? Yeah, stuff?

1646
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:00,120
Speaker 6: Did it?

1647
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:05,640
Speaker 3: Certainly something to watch do? And this was yesterday and

1648
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:08,479
Speaker 3: I know you guys obviously took advantage of it. Well,

1649
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 3: was there an issue that he didn't specifically mentioned Jalen

1650
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:13,680
Speaker 3: Ramsey and his apology for you?

1651
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 4: So I don't know either. I think that I know

1652
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:16,720
Speaker 4: a lot of people made it a big deal, but

1653
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 4: I don't think so. I think that's a statement. I

1654
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 4: think that says, yeah, I'm sorry that I did something

1655
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:27,759
Speaker 4: that hurt my team. I'm not sorry that that person

1656
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 4: had to suffer. Yeah, and I'm telling you there are

1657
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:33,320
Speaker 4: a lot of people around the National Football League probably

1658
01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 4: feel the same, feel very similarly about Jalen Ramsey.

1659
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:41,320
Speaker 3: All Right, one more break a touch and go. Keing

1660
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:43,200
Speaker 3: and Nickoson will kick off our number three next on

1661
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1662
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:50,080
Speaker 2: You've been listening to football in the NATI on ESPN

1663
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 2: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

1664
01:24:57,439 --> 01:25:01,840
Speaker 8: Sure, since he three sixty continues, He's on ESPN fifteen thirty,

1665
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:03,639
Speaker 8: Cincinnati Sports Station.

1666
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:17,840
Speaker 3: Welcome back since e three to sixty ESPN fifteen thirty

1667
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Sports Station, A service of our good friends at

1668
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:29,599
Speaker 3: Cincy Shirts. What else do we got going on right now?

1669
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:34,120
Speaker 3: We've got college football weekend. We talked about Ohio State

1670
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 3: and Michigan. We're gonna spend some time when we get

1671
01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:39,840
Speaker 3: back in just a few minutes talking to Keegan Nickison

1672
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 3: of Bearcat Journal dot com. He's gonna get us up

1673
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 3: to speed on everything going on with the UC Bearcats.

1674
01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:50,000
Speaker 3: A game tonight against Eastern Michigan in basketball, followed by

1675
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:53,800
Speaker 3: Saturday's game on the road at TCU a three point

1676
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 3: thirty start, kind of mixed in the middle Austin of

1677
01:25:56,960 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 3: what should be a pretty fun college football weekkend. Is

1678
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:06,479
Speaker 3: this what's known as rivalry weekend in college football? Yeah,

1679
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:09,599
Speaker 3: we've got Feast week happening in college basketball right now.

1680
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:16,200
Speaker 3: Rivalry weekend in college football. Friday night, well, Friday afternoon,

1681
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:20,360
Speaker 3: egg be there. It is day after the Turkeys come through.

1682
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 3: Friday Black Friday. People out shopping. If you don't want

1683
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:26,479
Speaker 3: to shop, you can watch the Bears and the Eagles.

1684
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:29,000
Speaker 3: You can also watch the Egg Bowl. That's Old miss

1685
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:33,000
Speaker 3: and Mississippi State. Rumors circulating on what Lane Kiffin's going

1686
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 3: to do. He's going to make a decision. I guess

1687
01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:40,320
Speaker 3: on Saturday. That should be interesting. Georgia Georgia Tech lost

1688
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 3: a little bit of its thunder, I think because Georgia

1689
01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:44,680
Speaker 3: Tech lost last week to Pittsburgh. But that's still a

1690
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:47,960
Speaker 3: top twenty five matchup. On Friday, Indiana's only got to

1691
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:49,880
Speaker 3: cover twenty eight and a half on the road at Purdue.

1692
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:52,800
Speaker 3: Do you think Austin, and we'll get to this in

1693
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 3: our pick him as well, you think Texas got something

1694
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:56,160
Speaker 3: for Texas A and.

1695
01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:56,519
Speaker 15: M and all.

1696
01:26:57,360 --> 01:27:01,479
Speaker 3: Why wouldn't they all right, Do you know anything about

1697
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 3: Texas A and m at the number three team in

1698
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 3: the country, because I feel like I don't.

1699
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:07,439
Speaker 4: I don't like the hoodies that Mike Elko wears, Okay,

1700
01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:08,680
Speaker 4: because I don't think they fit him.

1701
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 5: Right, that's fair. That's all I know about Texas A

1702
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 5: and in all right, a.

1703
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:16,080
Speaker 3: Top twenty five Big Twelve battle finishes off the day

1704
01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:19,920
Speaker 3: on Friday night, Arizona and Arizona State. Weird guy about

1705
01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:24,280
Speaker 3: Kentucky Louisville. Kentucky's got to win to they need a

1706
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:25,680
Speaker 3: win for Bowl eligibility.

1707
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:27,599
Speaker 5: I don't trust either one of those teams.

1708
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:32,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll talk Bearcats with Keegan Nickoson. By the way,

1709
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 3: it is worth noting that right now in the College

1710
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:41,599
Speaker 3: Football Playoff rankings, you do have three Big Twelve teams

1711
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:45,280
Speaker 3: in the top thirteen. Utah comes in at thirteen, Texas

1712
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:49,240
Speaker 3: Tech is number five, b YU still at number eleven.

1713
01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 7: Why is that?

1714
01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:52,439
Speaker 5: Why are they still at number eleven?

1715
01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:52,560
Speaker 17: No?

1716
01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 5: Why is it? Why does that matter?

1717
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:54,680
Speaker 17: Well?

1718
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:56,600
Speaker 5: I'm just thinking of the College Football Playoff? Can the

1719
01:27:56,640 --> 01:27:58,559
Speaker 5: Big twelve get two teams in it? Okay?

1720
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:00,320
Speaker 25: Like that?

1721
01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:04,680
Speaker 3: Like if BYU goes to the College Football if they

1722
01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:06,880
Speaker 3: go to the Big twelve title and they beat Texas Tech.

1723
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:09,800
Speaker 3: And Texas Tech right now is number five and they're

1724
01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:11,479
Speaker 3: not going to lose to West Virginia. Do you keep

1725
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:12,959
Speaker 3: Texas Tech in the top twelve.

1726
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:16,000
Speaker 5: You would hope if they're one of the twelve best teams.

1727
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:16,840
Speaker 5: I think so as well.

1728
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 4: We got that Dobe rule. We're gonna put like two

1729
01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:22,800
Speaker 4: lane or somebody in two lane. Stupid two lane. All right,

1730
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 4: let's talk to Keig when we come back. Kick Nikkis

1731
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:27,880
Speaker 4: and barcaut Journal dot Com. Next on ESPN fifteen thirty

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Speaker 3: Thank you for listening on this the eve of Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 3: Let's get right to it. Bearcat's Hoops tonight, Bearcat's Football Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Let's go to the man covering both for barcat Journal

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Speaker 3: dot Com. Keg and Nicholson joining us right now. What's

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01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:15,040
Speaker 3: up Kegan?

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01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 7: Nothing much?

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01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 3: How are you, Kiggan? What's your what's your Thanksgiving look like?

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01:29:20,120 --> 01:29:20,880
Speaker 3: Any big plans?

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Speaker 7: I think just going over to my dad's house and

1748
01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:27,479
Speaker 7: eating as much green bean.

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01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:29,760
Speaker 9: Cast role as can possibly eat?

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Speaker 5: Are you a stuffing guy?

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01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:34,400
Speaker 12: That not really, I'm not.

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01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:38,920
Speaker 7: A huge stuffing guy. It's it's turkey, it's rolls, it's

1753
01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:41,120
Speaker 7: mashed potatoes and greening cast role, and then you put

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01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:44,240
Speaker 7: a heaping coating of gravy on the entire plate.

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Speaker 5: That's that's nice.

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Speaker 6: We'll go to Uh.

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Speaker 5: That is music to my ears. Chiegan.

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Speaker 3: Let's start with tonight at fifth Stird Arena, Eastern Michigan

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01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 3: rolls into town.

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Speaker 29: Uh.

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Speaker 3: After what we were able to see against the New

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Speaker 3: Jersey Institute of Technology, what are you looking more forward

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01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:04,240
Speaker 3: to most in tonight's basketball game? What do you want

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01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:05,280
Speaker 3: to see from the Bearcats?

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Speaker 7: I think the biggest thing would be Shanabias continuing to

1766
01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:13,759
Speaker 7: be in an alpha on offense. He's already on alpha

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01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:15,880
Speaker 7: and he was through the first five games, but you're

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01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:18,440
Speaker 7: starting to see it more with Baba Miller.

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01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:21,000
Speaker 9: Missing he's kind of taken that initiative and.

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01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:24,200
Speaker 7: Being able to take over on the court. And he

1771
01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:26,680
Speaker 7: was also playing good on the defensive side of the ball,

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01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:30,360
Speaker 7: and he was rebounding and playing tight defense. So he's

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01:30:30,439 --> 01:30:32,800
Speaker 7: one of the big bigger things. What they do with

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01:30:32,920 --> 01:30:36,400
Speaker 7: Baba Miller is another big thing. I wouldn't expect him

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01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:39,000
Speaker 7: to play. I haven't really heard any updates from the situation.

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01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:43,200
Speaker 7: Coach West said that he didn't practice Saturday or Sunday

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01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:47,599
Speaker 7: before Monday's game, and I really I wouldn't expect him.

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01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:49,240
Speaker 9: To play because the best case scenario is.

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01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:51,720
Speaker 7: That he practiced yesterday for the first time and then

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01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:56,439
Speaker 7: would play today. So especially with Xavier on the horizon,

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01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:58,600
Speaker 7: you want to make sure he's healthy for that. And

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01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:01,400
Speaker 7: then another thing is Jordi Rudaz. It's kind of a

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01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:05,439
Speaker 7: weird situation. He didn't play for two games. It didn't

1784
01:31:05,479 --> 01:31:07,320
Speaker 7: seem that there was an injury. It was kind of

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01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:11,160
Speaker 7: just a benching, like maybe Easton needs to adjust to

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01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:15,320
Speaker 7: this level of play. And he played very very well

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Speaker 7: on Monday on both sides of the wall. He played aggressively,

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01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:22,080
Speaker 7: he was going after loose balls, was passing the ball well,

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01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:25,320
Speaker 7: handling the ball well and he made shots. So kind

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Speaker 7: of seeing him continue to develop and gain some trust

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Speaker 7: from coach Miller so he can put him in the

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01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:35,040
Speaker 7: rotation consistently. Stacking two, three, maybe even four games is

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Speaker 7: a great way to do that.

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Speaker 3: It is a matchup tonight, they played Tarlton State on Monday,

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01:31:41,200 --> 01:31:44,879
Speaker 3: and then after that it is the Crossdown Shootout next Friday,

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Speaker 3: so two more opportunities for the Bearcats before taking on

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Speaker 3: the Xavier Musketeers the Georgia Bulldogs. Clemson comes up on

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01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 3: that schedule, so a crucial, crucial couple games for the Bearcats.

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Speaker 3: I also think Keegan a massive one on Saturday for

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Speaker 3: the football program. Losers now have three games in a row.

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Speaker 3: If it could have went wrong, it went wrong against BYU,

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01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:10,800
Speaker 3: the definition of a team beating themselves. How important does

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01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:14,200
Speaker 3: Saturday become for Scott Saderfield in the football program.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:19,280
Speaker 7: I coming into the year, my floor for the team

1806
01:32:19,479 --> 01:32:21,880
Speaker 7: was seven and five, but I didn't think that they

1807
01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:26,120
Speaker 7: would finish any worse than seven and five. And now

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01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:30,040
Speaker 7: you put yourself in a situation where you could very

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01:32:30,200 --> 01:32:33,560
Speaker 7: easily only have two losses right now, and then you

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01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:34,880
Speaker 7: just fumbled.

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Speaker 9: Two games in a row. Against Arizona and BYU.

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Speaker 7: That you could have very easily won had you just

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01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:42,679
Speaker 7: played up to your standard, not even above your standard,

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01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:46,120
Speaker 7: not like excellent games. But if you just played up

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01:32:46,160 --> 01:32:48,080
Speaker 7: to your standard, do you win those games and you're

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Speaker 7: in the driver's seat for a big co championship game birth.

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Speaker 7: So I think that TCU is definitely a must win

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01:32:56,600 --> 01:33:00,320
Speaker 7: because if they are to finish seven and five, you're

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01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:02,880
Speaker 7: gonna hear You're going to see those pitchforks out from

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01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:06,120
Speaker 7: the fan base, just like it was after the first

1821
01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:10,360
Speaker 7: two years, because you know, everything was made about how

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01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:14,800
Speaker 7: much better this roster is, and it is a lot

1823
01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:16,880
Speaker 7: better than the last two years, but you've kind of

1824
01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:23,680
Speaker 7: seen a disappointing result and again where you're playing below expectations.

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Speaker 7: And one of my big things that I'm kind of

1826
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:30,000
Speaker 7: thinking about is how much better of a roster can

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Speaker 7: you get next year? Like when you look at this team,

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01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:36,759
Speaker 7: You've got Dante Croleo, and you've got Joe Royer, Cyrus

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Speaker 7: Allen leads.

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Speaker 9: The conference and touchdowns, he's had.

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Speaker 7: A great season. He got Brennan Storthree, You've got your

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Speaker 7: the best offensive line you've had in a long time.

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Speaker 7: I don't know how many additions they can make out

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Speaker 7: of a transfer portal. I don't know what freshmen or

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01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:54,479
Speaker 7: red shirt freshmen that they're expecting to make a huge

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01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:56,479
Speaker 7: leap where this team is going to be so much

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Speaker 7: better to where you can expect them to go ten

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01:33:58,479 --> 01:34:00,640
Speaker 7: and two or nine to three and get into a

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Speaker 7: big twelve championship game. So that's one of the biggest concerns.

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Speaker 7: But I also know that this fair personnel department is

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01:34:07,720 --> 01:34:09,599
Speaker 7: going to work their butt off and try to get

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01:34:10,120 --> 01:34:12,160
Speaker 7: a bunch of guys on campus that they think can

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01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:15,479
Speaker 7: help the team. And you've seen the steps forward, even

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01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:18,800
Speaker 7: though the steps from year two to three, if they

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01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:23,160
Speaker 7: were to finish seven to five, is definitely kind of underwhelming,

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Speaker 7: especially to the fan base.

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Speaker 3: You know, I haven't been able to figure it out

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01:34:28,200 --> 01:34:30,000
Speaker 3: for two years, so I'm not going to try to now.

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Speaker 3: I don't understand the lack of usage for Joe Royer.

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Speaker 3: Outside of that in this losing streak, they've also just

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01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:39,920
Speaker 3: not gotten the quarterback play that they did during the

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01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:43,240
Speaker 3: seven game winning streak outside of just the opponents being better.

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Speaker 3: Is there anything you've noticed from Brendan Swarsby that would

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01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:49,080
Speaker 3: lead you to have some concern going into the finale.

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01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:51,880
Speaker 35: Not really.

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01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:55,800
Speaker 7: I think you're still seeing those throws that show that

1857
01:34:55,920 --> 01:34:58,160
Speaker 7: he is a high level passer, like the throws that

1858
01:34:58,360 --> 01:35:00,960
Speaker 7: take way more into dissipation.

1859
01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:03,400
Speaker 9: Than most, way more confidence than most.

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01:35:04,040 --> 01:35:07,519
Speaker 7: But then like when they're playing against man and when

1861
01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:11,280
Speaker 7: they're getting blitzed, you see where he tries to press

1862
01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:13,680
Speaker 7: and tries to force the issue and it doesn't work out.

1863
01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:16,559
Speaker 7: He said, two arm punts. In the last two weeks,

1864
01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:23,040
Speaker 7: he's had some basically throwaways and just had some bad decisions, like,

1865
01:35:23,520 --> 01:35:27,160
Speaker 7: for example, that your kickers missed three straight field goals

1866
01:35:27,160 --> 01:35:31,200
Speaker 7: from the left hash, and then on like third and thirteen,

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01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:34,040
Speaker 7: you just throw a three yard ball to Joe Royer

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01:35:34,200 --> 01:35:36,320
Speaker 7: on the left hash. Your kicker comes on and misses

1869
01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:38,600
Speaker 7: his fourth straight from the left hash. So it's just

1870
01:35:38,760 --> 01:35:41,479
Speaker 7: like small stuff like that that doesn't really make sense.

1871
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:46,320
Speaker 7: But you know, I still think he's super, super talented,

1872
01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:49,679
Speaker 7: and I'm expecting him to go out and beat TCU

1873
01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:52,639
Speaker 7: because the defense kind of lines up to the point

1874
01:35:52,640 --> 01:35:54,160
Speaker 7: where he should be able to have success.

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Speaker 3: You know, Keegan, There's been a lot of conversation in

1876
01:35:57,160 --> 01:35:59,759
Speaker 3: the last week or so about the three three five defense,

1877
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:04,519
Speaker 3: and you know, is it a successful scheme for the

1878
01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:07,880
Speaker 3: Cincinnati bearcatch or can it be a successful scheme? This

1879
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:10,200
Speaker 3: obviously coming off a game where LJ. Martin was able

1880
01:36:10,240 --> 01:36:11,920
Speaker 3: to do whatever he wanted on the ground along with

1881
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:15,000
Speaker 3: anyone who was running the ball from BYU. What is

1882
01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:19,200
Speaker 3: your overall feel of the three three five as you

1883
01:36:19,320 --> 01:36:21,880
Speaker 3: get in now obviously through year two with Tyson Vite.

1884
01:36:24,360 --> 01:36:27,760
Speaker 7: My thing about this season is that the defense has

1885
01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:30,840
Speaker 7: put the team in a position to win the game,

1886
01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:34,080
Speaker 7: and ten out of the eleven games they've played like

1887
01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:36,640
Speaker 7: they were in a position to beat Nebraska, they were

1888
01:36:36,720 --> 01:36:39,439
Speaker 7: in a position to beat Arizona and BYU, and then

1889
01:36:39,680 --> 01:36:42,160
Speaker 7: they just got their book slipped against Utah. Both sides

1890
01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:44,640
Speaker 7: of the ball did like that game was over from

1891
01:36:44,720 --> 01:36:48,160
Speaker 7: the first like ten to fifteen minutes. So I don't

1892
01:36:48,240 --> 01:36:51,760
Speaker 7: really get the thing I think. The thing I think

1893
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:54,960
Speaker 7: it is is just like it's kind of rare to

1894
01:36:55,160 --> 01:36:58,200
Speaker 7: see like Cincinnati Fance aren't used to seeing it, So

1895
01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:01,320
Speaker 7: when you lose, you're looking for scapegoat, and.

1896
01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:03,439
Speaker 9: Then that goes to how did the quarterback play?

1897
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:06,559
Speaker 7: And then if Soorsby plays poorly like he did against

1898
01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:11,120
Speaker 7: Utah and Arizona, everything piles on Soresby, and then Sorsby

1899
01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:13,960
Speaker 7: played pretty good against Byu had the interception, but he

1900
01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:16,519
Speaker 7: still completed sixty six percent of his passes and three

1901
01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:19,760
Speaker 7: for three hundred yards and a couple of touchdowns. But

1902
01:37:19,920 --> 01:37:22,960
Speaker 7: then you see Byu run all over the place, and

1903
01:37:23,080 --> 01:37:26,639
Speaker 7: it's like you're not playing a four man front. You're

1904
01:37:26,680 --> 01:37:29,960
Speaker 7: not blitzing a ton. But I still don't think it

1905
01:37:30,120 --> 01:37:32,400
Speaker 7: was just because of the three three five that Byu

1906
01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:34,679
Speaker 7: had success in the ground. When you go and watch

1907
01:37:34,720 --> 01:37:38,840
Speaker 7: the film, the linebackers weren't filling their gaps properly, like

1908
01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:43,000
Speaker 7: at all, and it like Jack Dingle struggled, gold A struggled,

1909
01:37:44,120 --> 01:37:47,160
Speaker 7: and all the linebackers struggled, and that's when you get

1910
01:37:47,200 --> 01:37:47,799
Speaker 7: those ten.

1911
01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:48,919
Speaker 9: Plus fifteen plus.

1912
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:52,200
Speaker 7: Yard runs because they're just getting through the second level.

1913
01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:55,639
Speaker 7: Like the three man front shouldn't stop the linebackers from

1914
01:37:55,760 --> 01:37:58,040
Speaker 7: being able to make tackles, especially when they run up

1915
01:37:58,080 --> 01:38:01,240
Speaker 7: the middle. So and I talk to Anton Peak about it.

1916
01:38:01,320 --> 01:38:03,880
Speaker 7: I asked Dingle about it, and they both were very

1917
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:07,000
Speaker 7: confident in saying, like, look, it's not the scheme's fault.

1918
01:38:07,040 --> 01:38:09,719
Speaker 7: We're not making plays. They're putting us in a position

1919
01:38:09,800 --> 01:38:12,439
Speaker 7: to make plays. And you know, if you get run

1920
01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:15,960
Speaker 7: all over one game a year and then you end

1921
01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:18,600
Speaker 7: up losing that game, you're still going to be in

1922
01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:20,320
Speaker 7: a good spot for the rest of the games of

1923
01:38:20,360 --> 01:38:21,719
Speaker 7: the season to shut.

1924
01:38:21,600 --> 01:38:23,880
Speaker 9: Down the high powered passing offenses.

1925
01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:25,479
Speaker 7: That come through in the Big Twelve. And a large

1926
01:38:25,479 --> 01:38:28,200
Speaker 7: part that's been the case, but that the three three

1927
01:38:28,320 --> 01:38:31,320
Speaker 7: five did not lose them the Arizona or BYU games.

1928
01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:33,960
Speaker 7: It was the offense not being able to put anything

1929
01:38:34,040 --> 01:38:34,840
Speaker 7: together and.

1930
01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:37,960
Speaker 9: Having self inflicted wins and making crucial mistakes at important

1931
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:38,639
Speaker 9: times in the game.

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01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:43,560
Speaker 3: Nick Cardwell has been nominated one of sixty three for

1933
01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:46,679
Speaker 3: the Broyles Award winner for the nation's top assistant coach.

1934
01:38:47,360 --> 01:38:50,160
Speaker 3: When you think about this Bearcat offensive line and you

1935
01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:53,680
Speaker 3: think about the strides they've taken, how much of an

1936
01:38:53,720 --> 01:38:55,960
Speaker 3: imprint has Cardwell have on this university?

1937
01:38:57,960 --> 01:39:01,760
Speaker 7: Huge? And he's one of my stats and coaches that

1938
01:39:01,840 --> 01:39:03,400
Speaker 7: I've ever covered, just.

1939
01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:09,240
Speaker 9: Super personable, super super passionate and like he played tight end.

1940
01:39:09,200 --> 01:39:11,360
Speaker 7: At app State, I think he was actually a walk on,

1941
01:39:12,280 --> 01:39:14,640
Speaker 7: battled a neck injury and was able to play a

1942
01:39:14,680 --> 01:39:18,000
Speaker 7: little bit after the neck injury, and when he I

1943
01:39:18,080 --> 01:39:20,360
Speaker 7: think he was like a QC with the tight ends

1944
01:39:20,439 --> 01:39:23,000
Speaker 7: early in his career, and he just saw.

1945
01:39:23,240 --> 01:39:25,839
Speaker 9: The offensive line coach and the offensive line.

1946
01:39:25,720 --> 01:39:28,360
Speaker 7: Group and how important they were to the team and

1947
01:39:28,439 --> 01:39:30,960
Speaker 7: how they practiced, and he just said then like, look,

1948
01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:33,960
Speaker 7: I don't want to do anything else but be an

1949
01:39:33,960 --> 01:39:36,720
Speaker 7: offensive line coach, Like that's ultimately what I want to do.

1950
01:39:37,439 --> 01:39:40,560
Speaker 7: And you see that every day in practice when we

1951
01:39:40,680 --> 01:39:43,120
Speaker 7: get to see him in the fall, in the spring,

1952
01:39:43,280 --> 01:39:45,160
Speaker 7: and when we get to see him once a week,

1953
01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:49,840
Speaker 7: he's super, super passionate. And you understand why they were

1954
01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:52,719
Speaker 7: able to get a guy like Joe Cotton, who canceled

1955
01:39:52,720 --> 01:39:56,040
Speaker 7: a visit to Wisconsin, didn't line up any visits to

1956
01:39:56,160 --> 01:39:59,559
Speaker 7: teams like Alabama or other schools that were really interested

1957
01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:02,639
Speaker 7: in them, because he just saw what coach Cardwolfs could

1958
01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:05,920
Speaker 7: do for him. And that's why you've gotten a group

1959
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:08,200
Speaker 7: that has outplayed a group from.

1960
01:40:08,200 --> 01:40:10,599
Speaker 9: Last year that put I think three guys in the NFL.

1961
01:40:11,160 --> 01:40:13,960
Speaker 7: So you're just seeing like what he's building and the

1962
01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:15,960
Speaker 7: guys that he's able to bring in and the potential

1963
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:18,960
Speaker 7: that he gets out of them. And the offensive line

1964
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:21,720
Speaker 7: has been one of the most consistent groups over all

1965
01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:24,839
Speaker 7: three years, and especially when you see that Brendon Sourzy

1966
01:40:24,880 --> 01:40:27,240
Speaker 7: has only been sacked four times this year, so he

1967
01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:27,920
Speaker 7: might be one of.

1968
01:40:27,880 --> 01:40:30,280
Speaker 9: The most crucial coaches on the entire staff.

1969
01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:34,960
Speaker 7: But he's one of my favorite guys and he's super

1970
01:40:35,120 --> 01:40:37,960
Speaker 7: super important to keep around because if you look at

1971
01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:40,519
Speaker 7: the landscape of college football, people are going to be

1972
01:40:40,600 --> 01:40:42,800
Speaker 7: looking at him and try to poach him for their teams,

1973
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:45,760
Speaker 7: especially with all the coaching changes. But I know that

1974
01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:48,920
Speaker 7: he's super super loyal to coach Sadderfield, and he's going

1975
01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:50,840
Speaker 7: to be important to keep Keigan.

1976
01:40:50,920 --> 01:40:52,600
Speaker 3: Last year, the team got to five and two and

1977
01:40:52,720 --> 01:40:55,759
Speaker 3: lost their last five games to finish five and seven.

1978
01:40:56,880 --> 01:41:01,000
Speaker 3: I feel like if you would have told folks after

1979
01:41:01,080 --> 01:41:03,679
Speaker 3: last year, Okay, next year they'll win seven games, people

1980
01:41:03,680 --> 01:41:05,960
Speaker 3: would have said, Okay, that's progression. They're trending in the

1981
01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:09,719
Speaker 3: right direction. However, if they finished with just seven wins,

1982
01:41:09,720 --> 01:41:11,719
Speaker 3: as we talked about earlier, that would mean they lost

1983
01:41:11,800 --> 01:41:15,280
Speaker 3: their final four games of the regular season. Would you

1984
01:41:15,400 --> 01:41:19,160
Speaker 3: classify the season as a failure if they finished the

1985
01:41:19,200 --> 01:41:20,759
Speaker 3: regular season at seven and five.

1986
01:41:23,320 --> 01:41:26,879
Speaker 7: I don't know about failure. I would more.

1987
01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:31,040
Speaker 9: Say a disappointment, and I would say that they.

1988
01:41:33,200 --> 01:41:38,960
Speaker 7: They played below expectations, Like I don't think the step

1989
01:41:39,120 --> 01:41:42,519
Speaker 7: from seven from five and seven to seven to five

1990
01:41:42,840 --> 01:41:45,519
Speaker 7: is as big from three to nine to five and seven.

1991
01:41:45,960 --> 01:41:47,680
Speaker 7: Like I would say the jump from year one to

1992
01:41:47,800 --> 01:41:51,320
Speaker 7: year two was bigger than from two to three, especially

1993
01:41:51,400 --> 01:41:53,840
Speaker 7: because of not only the amount of talent that you

1994
01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:56,680
Speaker 7: brought in but the amount of talent that you were

1995
01:41:56,720 --> 01:41:59,120
Speaker 7: able to retain. It seemed like it was supposed to

1996
01:41:59,120 --> 01:42:02,920
Speaker 7: be the perfect story, and then it's just you're losing

1997
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:06,240
Speaker 7: games that you're not supposed to lose, especially games at home.

1998
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:09,640
Speaker 7: So I would say it's a disappointment, but not a

1999
01:42:09,720 --> 01:42:12,000
Speaker 7: total failure. I think if it was a total failure,

2000
01:42:12,479 --> 01:42:15,760
Speaker 7: that's more six and six, five and seven, and you're

2001
01:42:15,800 --> 01:42:18,840
Speaker 7: getting to the point where the eighties having a serious

2002
01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:21,920
Speaker 7: conversation about the future of the football program. But if

2003
01:42:21,960 --> 01:42:24,000
Speaker 7: he finishes at seven and five, he's coming back next

2004
01:42:24,080 --> 01:42:25,880
Speaker 7: year and they're going to have an opportunity to build

2005
01:42:25,960 --> 01:42:29,240
Speaker 7: on it. So yeah, I think it's an underwhelming and

2006
01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:32,479
Speaker 7: disappointing year, but not to the point where it's failure

2007
01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:35,320
Speaker 7: to where the coach should be getting fired.

2008
01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:40,640
Speaker 3: Keig and Nicholson Bearcat Journal dot Com covering the Cincinnati Bearcats.

2009
01:42:40,680 --> 01:42:42,960
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2010
01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:46,920
Speaker 3: Friday is a big thing at Bearcat Journal dot com.

2011
01:42:47,160 --> 01:42:50,800
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2012
01:42:50,920 --> 01:42:52,800
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2013
01:42:54,439 --> 01:42:58,400
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2014
01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:01,760
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2015
01:43:01,840 --> 01:43:04,880
Speaker 7: It's a crossover season. Hear about the Bowl games and

2016
01:43:04,920 --> 01:43:07,599
Speaker 7: all that stuff and obviously the basketball content that's coming.

2017
01:43:08,080 --> 01:43:11,439
Speaker 7: Follow me at k nickoson forty two on X follow

2018
01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:14,360
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2019
01:43:14,240 --> 01:43:16,880
Speaker 9: Pay my salary and give us a bunch of subscriptions.

2020
01:43:17,120 --> 01:43:19,639
Speaker 5: Do you have a Do you have a Bowl game prediction?

2021
01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:19,960
Speaker 12: Yet?

2022
01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:24,040
Speaker 7: For some reason, I feel like that they're going to

2023
01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:26,320
Speaker 7: play in Shreveport, Louisiana, and I'm really.

2024
01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:29,280
Speaker 9: Not excited about that. So right now, it's whatever Bowl

2025
01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:33,640
Speaker 9: games in Shreveport, the beautiful metropolis of Shreveport, Louisiana.

2026
01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:35,480
Speaker 5: Tony can't even spell Shreveport.

2027
01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:40,440
Speaker 3: Nope, it's not Kegan. Appreciate you man. Have a great Thanksgiving.

2028
01:43:40,479 --> 01:43:41,000
Speaker 3: We'll talk soon.

2029
01:43:42,320 --> 01:43:43,240
Speaker 7: Thanks, Tony, I'll see you.

2030
01:43:43,640 --> 01:43:47,240
Speaker 3: That is Keegan nickoson Bearcat Journal dot com. We just

2031
01:43:47,320 --> 01:43:49,679
Speaker 3: talked about the Barcat game. We'll pick the Bearcat game

2032
01:43:49,760 --> 01:43:52,600
Speaker 3: among others. Next, Austin our weekly Pick Him segment on

2033
01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:58,720
Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Well, let's get right

2034
01:43:58,760 --> 01:44:01,840
Speaker 3: into it. Then, welcome back. It's our three since He

2035
01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:08,120
Speaker 3: three Stadium DESPN fifteenth day, Cincinnati's PlayStation. That sound means

2036
01:44:08,160 --> 01:44:10,240
Speaker 3: it's time for picks now. It's not Friday. We're not

2037
01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:13,799
Speaker 3: here on Friday. Austin and I are off tomorrow and Friday.

2038
01:44:14,160 --> 01:44:16,080
Speaker 3: I believe Chad Brenda is in Friday, but he's not

2039
01:44:16,120 --> 01:44:18,120
Speaker 3: going to be making picks like we are right now, Austin,

2040
01:44:18,200 --> 01:44:19,599
Speaker 3: Let's start with the high school slate.

2041
01:44:19,680 --> 01:44:21,320
Speaker 5: The playoffs roll on.

2042
01:44:22,040 --> 01:44:24,680
Speaker 3: There are legitimate contenders in the state of Ohio and

2043
01:44:24,800 --> 01:44:27,800
Speaker 3: Kentucky to bring home state titles. Let's start with the

2044
01:44:27,880 --> 01:44:32,920
Speaker 3: long Blue line against Middletown's Right st X Middletown. They

2045
01:44:33,000 --> 01:44:37,400
Speaker 3: travel to Dayton Welcome Stadium, Middletown, getting slept on a

2046
01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:39,360
Speaker 3: little bit. That's you know where Kyle Schwarber went.

2047
01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:42,400
Speaker 4: Didn't Saint X just play at Welcome Stadium a couple

2048
01:44:42,439 --> 01:44:42,920
Speaker 4: of weeks ago?

2049
01:44:44,080 --> 01:44:45,680
Speaker 5: Did I make that up? Was that a different game

2050
01:44:47,560 --> 01:44:50,160
Speaker 5: and somebody play up there? I think they did. Yeah,

2051
01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:53,559
Speaker 5: So see they're familiar with this familiar with the place.

2052
01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:56,280
Speaker 3: Give me the Bombers, give me the long blue line,

2053
01:44:56,320 --> 01:44:59,960
Speaker 3: give me Daniel Vallmer is going to have another massive game,

2054
01:45:00,320 --> 01:45:03,920
Speaker 3: just as he did against Elder. Gimme Saint Xavier to

2055
01:45:04,040 --> 01:45:04,559
Speaker 3: win the game.

2056
01:45:04,680 --> 01:45:07,439
Speaker 4: I haven't heard a lot of people's really giving Middletown

2057
01:45:07,479 --> 01:45:08,439
Speaker 4: a chance whatsoever.

2058
01:45:08,520 --> 01:45:10,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think so. Is there any room for

2059
01:45:10,280 --> 01:45:11,160
Speaker 5: a letdown? Game?

2060
01:45:11,320 --> 01:45:14,719
Speaker 4: Could be after the Uh, you never know, Kyle Schwarber,

2061
01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:18,200
Speaker 4: the pay Court Stadium game with the world watching.

2062
01:45:18,360 --> 01:45:21,160
Speaker 5: Maybe a leftown. No, we'll take say next, all right,

2063
01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:21,960
Speaker 5: the Bombers.

2064
01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:28,160
Speaker 3: How about Anderson versus Sunbury Big Walnut. Yeah, this game

2065
01:45:28,720 --> 01:45:31,360
Speaker 3: at prestigious Columbus Crew Stadium.

2066
01:45:31,680 --> 01:45:32,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, who do you think?

2067
01:45:33,120 --> 01:45:33,680
Speaker 7: Who do you got?

2068
01:45:34,040 --> 01:45:37,040
Speaker 4: I like Anderson because I think Raptors is a cool name.

2069
01:45:37,240 --> 01:45:40,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Raptors is a cool name. Big Walnut's cool too,

2070
01:45:40,320 --> 01:45:46,280
Speaker 3: and their offensive style is cool. At Anderson, I think

2071
01:45:46,320 --> 01:45:49,479
Speaker 3: Anderson's got way too much firepower on the offensive side

2072
01:45:49,479 --> 01:45:54,519
Speaker 3: of the ball. Anderson wins, Anderson advances. Indian Hill is

2073
01:45:54,600 --> 01:45:58,000
Speaker 3: going to play against Shelby. I'm not sure who or

2074
01:45:58,080 --> 01:46:00,559
Speaker 3: what Shelby is. I know both of the teams come

2075
01:46:00,600 --> 01:46:04,960
Speaker 3: into the game unblemished, not a loss on either of

2076
01:46:05,040 --> 01:46:08,519
Speaker 3: these squads. But here's the deal. This game is being

2077
01:46:08,600 --> 01:46:16,160
Speaker 3: played in Sydney. They're playing this at Sydney. I think

2078
01:46:16,240 --> 01:46:21,559
Speaker 3: that's a disadvantage for Indian Hill. I'll take Shelby, Okay,

2079
01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:25,120
Speaker 3: all right, I don't want to, but something about this

2080
01:46:25,240 --> 01:46:28,400
Speaker 3: game being played at Sydney just makes me go against

2081
01:46:28,439 --> 01:46:28,880
Speaker 3: Indian Hill.

2082
01:46:28,880 --> 01:46:29,479
Speaker 5: And I don't know why.

2083
01:46:29,640 --> 01:46:33,439
Speaker 4: I have in my life never heard of Shelby. I

2084
01:46:33,520 --> 01:46:36,720
Speaker 4: don't know where it's at. I don't know anything about it.

2085
01:46:37,080 --> 01:46:39,559
Speaker 4: I didn't know it existed until I saw this matchup.

2086
01:46:40,160 --> 01:46:43,000
Speaker 4: But I know exactly where Indian Hill is. I'll take

2087
01:46:43,040 --> 01:46:46,400
Speaker 4: Indian Hill. Wow the Braves, says Austin. Give me the braves,

2088
01:46:46,479 --> 01:46:49,559
Speaker 4: all right. It feels like now we were told last week.

2089
01:46:50,080 --> 01:46:52,400
Speaker 4: I was told last week you aren't in that. Well,

2090
01:46:52,479 --> 01:46:55,160
Speaker 4: we don't pick enough Northern Kentucky games on this on

2091
01:46:55,760 --> 01:46:59,040
Speaker 4: the slate. So what I did was I put in

2092
01:46:59,120 --> 01:47:03,400
Speaker 4: Northern Kentucky game on here because Beachwood wash Rinz Repeat

2093
01:47:03,840 --> 01:47:08,599
Speaker 4: has another chance to advance, another chance to win another

2094
01:47:08,680 --> 01:47:11,240
Speaker 4: state title. I don't know much about Beachwood this year.

2095
01:47:11,280 --> 01:47:14,120
Speaker 3: I also don't know much about Owensborough Catholic, but give

2096
01:47:14,160 --> 01:47:16,040
Speaker 3: me the tradition at Beechwood to win this one.

2097
01:47:16,320 --> 01:47:16,519
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2098
01:47:16,880 --> 01:47:19,560
Speaker 4: I also don't know much about those two, but I

2099
01:47:19,640 --> 01:47:22,559
Speaker 4: know Beechwood's always in these conversations late in the year.

2100
01:47:23,120 --> 01:47:25,879
Speaker 4: You mentioned it, tradition. I'll take Beewood.

2101
01:47:26,120 --> 01:47:31,240
Speaker 3: All right, Let's go to the college football slate number

2102
01:47:31,320 --> 01:47:34,599
Speaker 3: three Texas A and M at number sixteen Texas. Remember

2103
01:47:34,680 --> 01:47:38,360
Speaker 3: this is rivalry weekend. Texas only a two and a

2104
01:47:38,400 --> 01:47:41,880
Speaker 3: half point dog at home. Does arch Manning have an

2105
01:47:41,960 --> 01:47:45,240
Speaker 3: upset in him? I'm a little surprised by this number,

2106
01:47:45,280 --> 01:47:50,200
Speaker 3: aren't you a little bit? WHOA, I'm surprised enough to

2107
01:47:50,320 --> 01:47:54,280
Speaker 3: make it our cheesy spread of the week. Yo, I'm

2108
01:47:54,479 --> 01:47:59,040
Speaker 3: just not buying Texas. I don't believe in Texas. Everyone

2109
01:47:59,160 --> 01:48:01,760
Speaker 3: says Texas A and is so good A and M

2110
01:48:01,840 --> 01:48:02,760
Speaker 3: A and M A and M.

2111
01:48:03,160 --> 01:48:03,200
Speaker 9: No.

2112
01:48:03,280 --> 01:48:05,519
Speaker 4: Obviously, you got to play the game in Austin. That's

2113
01:48:05,640 --> 01:48:09,160
Speaker 4: not easy for Texas A and M. But I'm not

2114
01:48:09,320 --> 01:48:10,599
Speaker 4: impressed by arch Manning.

2115
01:48:10,960 --> 01:48:11,519
Speaker 5: I'm really not.

2116
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:14,120
Speaker 3: So you're saying this is our Winschuler's cheesey spread of

2117
01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:16,240
Speaker 3: the week, Yeah, because it should be up about six

2118
01:48:16,360 --> 01:48:17,960
Speaker 3: more points to eight.

2119
01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:19,519
Speaker 5: Thanks to our friends at win Schulers.

2120
01:48:19,600 --> 01:48:22,120
Speaker 3: Listen, Is there anything better, Austin if you're like on

2121
01:48:22,200 --> 01:48:24,680
Speaker 3: the fence and you gotta attend to Thanksgiving? Like my

2122
01:48:24,800 --> 01:48:27,800
Speaker 3: wife just text me minutes ago, Austin. Yeah, she said,

2123
01:48:27,800 --> 01:48:31,160
Speaker 3: I'm in a predicament. I said what she said? We're

2124
01:48:31,200 --> 01:48:34,080
Speaker 3: in charge of mac and cheese and bread for both

2125
01:48:34,479 --> 01:48:36,360
Speaker 3: her parents Thanksgiving and our Thanksgiving.

2126
01:48:36,439 --> 01:48:37,439
Speaker 5: Oh nice? She said.

2127
01:48:37,479 --> 01:48:39,320
Speaker 3: It was supposed to be here today. Now it says

2128
01:48:39,360 --> 01:48:42,120
Speaker 3: it won't be here till Friday. Uh oh, I said,

2129
01:48:42,160 --> 01:48:46,720
Speaker 3: fear not. Go get some wind Schulers, four delicious cheese

2130
01:48:46,760 --> 01:48:49,800
Speaker 3: spreads that pair well with everything that would be great

2131
01:48:49,880 --> 01:48:51,040
Speaker 3: for our Thanksgivings tomorrow.

2132
01:48:51,080 --> 01:48:51,439
Speaker 7: It's right.

2133
01:48:52,360 --> 01:48:55,200
Speaker 3: It cured our predicament. It can cure yours as well.

2134
01:48:55,520 --> 01:48:56,960
Speaker 3: Can it cure two and a half points?

2135
01:48:57,080 --> 01:48:57,240
Speaker 7: Yes?

2136
01:48:57,320 --> 01:48:59,840
Speaker 3: I got Texas A and m okay this to me.

2137
01:49:01,040 --> 01:49:03,439
Speaker 3: I go back to our guy Dan Horde. When a

2138
01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:06,160
Speaker 3: line doesn't make sense, people know more than we know,

2139
01:49:06,800 --> 01:49:11,559
Speaker 3: arch Manning. This has the feel of a Steve Sarkesian special.

2140
01:49:12,640 --> 01:49:16,280
Speaker 3: Give me the Shark and the Texas Longhorns. All right,

2141
01:49:16,520 --> 01:49:19,160
Speaker 3: Old miss is number seven in the country. They travel

2142
01:49:19,200 --> 01:49:21,760
Speaker 3: to Mississippi State. It's called the egg Bowl. Yeah, and

2143
01:49:21,840 --> 01:49:24,240
Speaker 3: the line's only seven and a half. I know Mississippi

2144
01:49:24,240 --> 01:49:26,240
Speaker 3: State hasn't been great this year. I think a lot

2145
01:49:26,240 --> 01:49:28,839
Speaker 3: of people are worried about all the noise around lane Kiffin.

2146
01:49:29,560 --> 01:49:32,240
Speaker 3: Lane Kiffin operates in this noise. This is where he's

2147
01:49:32,280 --> 01:49:33,760
Speaker 3: at his best. Give me Old miss to cover the

2148
01:49:33,800 --> 01:49:35,840
Speaker 3: bigger number. Yeah, I'm right there with you. I don't

2149
01:49:35,840 --> 01:49:37,720
Speaker 3: think this will be much of an issue. I mean,

2150
01:49:37,760 --> 01:49:40,080
Speaker 3: it is a rivalry game. Everybody wants to throw it

2151
01:49:40,120 --> 01:49:42,880
Speaker 3: out the window during rival games. I get it, but

2152
01:49:43,040 --> 01:49:45,280
Speaker 3: not with Lane Kiffin and company. Them boys are trying

2153
01:49:45,320 --> 01:49:47,000
Speaker 3: to prove to him he should stick around.

2154
01:49:47,360 --> 01:49:49,800
Speaker 5: One school has a lot to play for, the other

2155
01:49:49,960 --> 01:49:51,559
Speaker 5: not so much. LSU.

2156
01:49:52,840 --> 01:49:55,120
Speaker 3: And I know Brian Kelly's son is still on the team,

2157
01:49:55,200 --> 01:49:57,960
Speaker 3: and I know that he's still hoping to get support

2158
01:49:58,080 --> 01:50:01,120
Speaker 3: for his dad and free BK and all this because

2159
01:50:01,160 --> 01:50:03,479
Speaker 3: his dad is you know, obviously he's going through much

2160
01:50:03,479 --> 01:50:06,000
Speaker 3: of a struggle trying to settle for fifty four million dollars.

2161
01:50:07,080 --> 01:50:09,040
Speaker 3: Oklahoma has everything in front of him. They got a

2162
01:50:09,080 --> 01:50:09,840
Speaker 3: late ten and a half.

2163
01:50:09,880 --> 01:50:16,240
Speaker 4: What do you think I'm never picking a three two stroke, Well,

2164
01:50:16,320 --> 01:50:19,320
Speaker 4: I'm never picking LSU. As long as there's a Kelly

2165
01:50:19,400 --> 01:50:22,519
Speaker 4: on the team, or the governor is interfering in the

2166
01:50:22,640 --> 01:50:25,960
Speaker 4: election of the new head coach. I got to Oklahoma

2167
01:50:26,240 --> 01:50:29,240
Speaker 4: to cover ten and a half Oklahoma, of course, where

2168
01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:31,920
Speaker 4: the wind comes sweeping down the planes.

2169
01:50:32,120 --> 01:50:35,160
Speaker 3: This is a Oklahoma win, but I think it opens

2170
01:50:35,240 --> 01:50:38,639
Speaker 3: the door for a late cover for LSU. I'll take

2171
01:50:38,680 --> 01:50:41,639
Speaker 3: the tig Go tie guys. I'll take LSU to cover

2172
01:50:41,720 --> 01:50:44,640
Speaker 3: the number but lose the game. Vanderbilt is fourteenth in

2173
01:50:44,680 --> 01:50:47,920
Speaker 3: the country. Tennessee is nineteenth in the country. Austin I

2174
01:50:48,040 --> 01:50:50,560
Speaker 3: said this last week. I'm kind of done with the

2175
01:50:50,640 --> 01:50:54,320
Speaker 3: Diego Pavia hype train. I know he was fantastic last week.

2176
01:50:54,400 --> 01:50:59,000
Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, he was awesome. Accounted for six total touchdowns,

2177
01:50:59,000 --> 01:51:01,560
Speaker 3: the second time this year he's accounted for six touchdowns

2178
01:51:01,960 --> 01:51:05,360
Speaker 3: in a game. I'm just I don't think Vanderbilt can

2179
01:51:05,439 --> 01:51:06,960
Speaker 3: go on the road. It's only a three and a

2180
01:51:07,040 --> 01:51:11,800
Speaker 3: half point spread. I think Tennessee they had to slip

2181
01:51:11,880 --> 01:51:14,120
Speaker 3: up against Oklahoma. They got right last week on the

2182
01:51:14,200 --> 01:51:17,240
Speaker 3: road at the Swamp. They finish out their regular season

2183
01:51:17,280 --> 01:51:19,280
Speaker 3: on a high note. I got them beating Vanderbilt and

2184
01:51:19,320 --> 01:51:21,760
Speaker 3: covering the number. I do too, never easy to play

2185
01:51:22,439 --> 01:51:25,960
Speaker 3: at Niland Stadium. They're favored for a reason. I don't

2186
01:51:25,960 --> 01:51:28,639
Speaker 3: believe in Vandy. You want to talk about something stinking

2187
01:51:29,320 --> 01:51:33,479
Speaker 3: and line's not making sense? Last time I checked. Auburn

2188
01:51:33,600 --> 01:51:36,040
Speaker 3: is not a great football team this year. Oh whoa,

2189
01:51:36,800 --> 01:51:39,920
Speaker 3: this is one of those games. This is an Iron Bowl?

2190
01:51:40,240 --> 01:51:41,599
Speaker 5: Oh this is the game?

2191
01:51:41,720 --> 01:51:41,840
Speaker 39: Right?

2192
01:51:41,920 --> 01:51:45,680
Speaker 5: Are you won in six in conference? Doesn't matter? Alabama's

2193
01:51:45,720 --> 01:51:48,439
Speaker 5: still playing for something. Did you not watch Ohio State

2194
01:51:48,520 --> 01:51:49,439
Speaker 5: Michigan last year?

2195
01:51:49,520 --> 01:51:49,640
Speaker 14: Oh?

2196
01:51:49,760 --> 01:51:52,200
Speaker 3: God, it doesn't matter. They Ama cover six and a

2197
01:51:52,200 --> 01:51:53,120
Speaker 3: half easy in this one.

2198
01:51:53,160 --> 01:51:53,599
Speaker 10: I agree?

2199
01:51:53,800 --> 01:51:54,120
Speaker 5: All right?

2200
01:51:55,360 --> 01:52:00,799
Speaker 3: What about the Battle in the Bluegrass? Louisville host Kentucky.

2201
01:52:02,200 --> 01:52:05,280
Speaker 3: Mark Stoop's trying to get his Kentucky Wildcats Bowl eligible.

2202
01:52:05,320 --> 01:52:07,479
Speaker 3: It's been such an up and down year. I feel

2203
01:52:07,600 --> 01:52:10,920
Speaker 3: like for the Kentucky Wildcats. I'll ask you, Austin. Does

2204
01:52:11,040 --> 01:52:15,639
Speaker 3: Kentucky get their third SEC win? More importantly, does Kentucky

2205
01:52:15,800 --> 01:52:19,400
Speaker 3: game Bowl eligibility after the Vanderbilt Commodore has just boat

2206
01:52:19,479 --> 01:52:20,479
Speaker 3: raced them last weekend?

2207
01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:21,880
Speaker 17: No?

2208
01:52:22,560 --> 01:52:26,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, Louisville wins. But I don't trust either one of

2209
01:52:26,360 --> 01:52:29,720
Speaker 4: these teams. I really don't. Yeah, I don't trust either

2210
01:52:29,760 --> 01:52:32,160
Speaker 4: one of them. But I'm gonna say because it's at Louisville.

2211
01:52:32,760 --> 01:52:35,560
Speaker 4: The Cards win home team. I think that's good for

2212
01:52:35,640 --> 01:52:38,160
Speaker 4: the three and a half point bump. I trust Louisville

2213
01:52:38,200 --> 01:52:38,920
Speaker 4: more than Kentucky.

2214
01:52:38,960 --> 01:52:39,320
Speaker 6: I'm with you.

2215
01:52:39,400 --> 01:52:41,320
Speaker 3: I don't trust either of them, but I'll take the

2216
01:52:41,360 --> 01:52:43,960
Speaker 3: Louisville Cardinals in this game. Let me get this out

2217
01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:46,599
Speaker 3: of the way, Austin, it's number one Ohio State. It's

2218
01:52:46,720 --> 01:52:51,120
Speaker 3: number fifteen Michigan. They call it the game, the game.

2219
01:52:51,680 --> 01:52:53,720
Speaker 3: Ohio State's favored by nine and a half, and go

2220
01:52:53,800 --> 01:52:55,320
Speaker 3: ahead and put me on record, Austin.

2221
01:52:55,360 --> 01:52:55,760
Speaker 5: I'll do it.

2222
01:52:56,520 --> 01:53:00,439
Speaker 3: This one won't even be close. Ohio State's just go roll.

2223
01:53:00,720 --> 01:53:03,120
Speaker 3: This might be the easiest win ever in the history

2224
01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:06,040
Speaker 3: of this rivalry. Oh Man, this will be I'm not

2225
01:53:06,080 --> 01:53:08,360
Speaker 3: gonna say it might. This will be the easiest path

2226
01:53:08,439 --> 01:53:11,160
Speaker 3: to victory Ohio State's ever had. I think they're gonna

2227
01:53:11,200 --> 01:53:13,800
Speaker 3: start to win, to start to finish. They're just gonna

2228
01:53:13,800 --> 01:53:17,479
Speaker 3: crush Michigan. It won't be close. Give me Ohio State.

2229
01:53:17,479 --> 01:53:19,639
Speaker 3: I'd probably buy this up to thirty nine and a half,

2230
01:53:19,720 --> 01:53:21,320
Speaker 3: but I'll just happily take the nine.

2231
01:53:21,200 --> 01:53:23,280
Speaker 5: And a half. I'll take the Buckeyes.

2232
01:53:24,280 --> 01:53:24,519
Speaker 11: Wow.

2233
01:53:25,040 --> 01:53:26,920
Speaker 4: Well, at first and foremost, it means a lot to

2234
01:53:27,040 --> 01:53:28,639
Speaker 4: me that you're picking Ohio State.

2235
01:53:28,800 --> 01:53:29,439
Speaker 5: It really does.

2236
01:53:30,200 --> 01:53:32,680
Speaker 4: Before I make my selection, I just want to tell

2237
01:53:32,720 --> 01:53:35,280
Speaker 4: any Buckeye fans out there, if you're looking for a

2238
01:53:35,360 --> 01:53:39,080
Speaker 4: place to watch the game, go check out the Liberty Collective.

2239
01:53:39,320 --> 01:53:43,160
Speaker 4: Oh they're having a huge party for the game.

2240
01:53:43,280 --> 01:53:43,720
Speaker 5: Are you going.

2241
01:53:43,840 --> 01:53:47,680
Speaker 4: It's gonna feature a since he Hat release. Gonna be

2242
01:53:48,040 --> 01:53:51,000
Speaker 4: obviously at noon when the game starts. They've got drink

2243
01:53:51,040 --> 01:53:53,760
Speaker 4: specials from noon to four, including my favorite tone of

2244
01:53:53,840 --> 01:53:56,880
Speaker 4: fireball shot. They've got beer buckets, they got a DJ

2245
01:53:57,560 --> 01:54:00,840
Speaker 4: They've got tents, they've got swag. I'm told there's a

2246
01:54:00,960 --> 01:54:05,880
Speaker 4: twenty five foot television wow led Screen TV to watch

2247
01:54:05,960 --> 01:54:06,320
Speaker 4: the game.

2248
01:54:06,720 --> 01:54:09,479
Speaker 5: This is at the Liberty Collective. Big game Saturday.

2249
01:54:09,560 --> 01:54:12,559
Speaker 4: Looking forward to that, Ted Carris since he Hat release

2250
01:54:12,640 --> 01:54:15,719
Speaker 4: as well in conjunction with the Liberty Collective.

2251
01:54:15,880 --> 01:54:20,000
Speaker 5: No better place to watch the game on Saturday. It's

2252
01:54:20,040 --> 01:54:20,760
Speaker 5: not going to be a game.

2253
01:54:20,880 --> 01:54:24,599
Speaker 4: No better place to watch The Buck guys the Ohio

2254
01:54:24,720 --> 01:54:30,599
Speaker 4: State University continue their winning ways. Matt Patricia's defense makes

2255
01:54:30,680 --> 01:54:34,520
Speaker 4: life hell for Bryce Underwood and the Buck guys finish

2256
01:54:34,640 --> 01:54:37,600
Speaker 4: off a perfect season as they try to go back

2257
01:54:37,640 --> 01:54:39,440
Speaker 4: to back national championship.

2258
01:54:39,440 --> 01:54:41,840
Speaker 3: You say continue their winning ways. You mentioned this, You've

2259
01:54:41,920 --> 01:54:44,760
Speaker 3: mean for this season, not against Ohio, not against Michigan.

2260
01:54:45,480 --> 01:54:48,480
Speaker 5: They've won like sixteen games in a row or something.

2261
01:54:48,960 --> 01:54:51,760
Speaker 3: Okay, but you're talking about You're talking about winning ways

2262
01:54:51,800 --> 01:54:54,000
Speaker 3: in the regular You're not talking about the matchup against

2263
01:54:54,040 --> 01:54:56,080
Speaker 3: Michigan because they haven't won that in a while. The

2264
01:54:56,120 --> 01:54:58,400
Speaker 3: Buckeys have won a lot of games in a row. Okay,

2265
01:54:58,880 --> 01:55:03,160
Speaker 3: this one won't be close market Buckeye's role. Now you

2266
01:55:03,280 --> 01:55:06,480
Speaker 3: want to talk about rivalry weekend Austin, You want to

2267
01:55:06,520 --> 01:55:10,520
Speaker 3: talk about JV and varsity. Make no mistake about it.

2268
01:55:10,960 --> 01:55:13,720
Speaker 3: When the folks in college football that put together these

2269
01:55:13,760 --> 01:55:16,160
Speaker 3: schedules came out, they said, get Ohio State and Michigan

2270
01:55:16,240 --> 01:55:18,520
Speaker 3: out of the way, put it at noon, and then

2271
01:55:18,600 --> 01:55:19,640
Speaker 3: make way for the varsity.

2272
01:55:20,240 --> 01:55:21,160
Speaker 5: Three point thirty.

2273
01:55:22,600 --> 01:55:26,320
Speaker 3: On the road, Fort Worth, Texas, the horn Frogs the

2274
01:55:26,400 --> 01:55:32,000
Speaker 3: home of Andy Dalton against the Bearcats of Cincinnata. The

2275
01:55:32,040 --> 01:55:34,080
Speaker 3: Bearcats look to end a three game losing streak and

2276
01:55:34,120 --> 01:55:38,600
Speaker 3: avoid a disastrous end to the regular season. The Bearcats

2277
01:55:38,640 --> 01:55:40,520
Speaker 3: are going to get four and a half in this game,

2278
01:55:40,560 --> 01:55:43,520
Speaker 3: and I will take TCU to cover that number. Okay,

2279
01:55:44,280 --> 01:55:46,520
Speaker 3: That's where I'm out right now with our beloved Bearcats.

2280
01:55:46,880 --> 01:55:49,880
Speaker 3: I need, I need to see it more than I

2281
01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:51,640
Speaker 3: hear it from the Bearcats.

2282
01:55:51,880 --> 01:55:54,520
Speaker 4: I'm right there with you. You got TCU four.

2283
01:55:54,360 --> 01:55:54,680
Speaker 10: And a half.

2284
01:55:54,840 --> 01:55:57,760
Speaker 3: Okay, Now, we talked about the awesome slate that is

2285
01:55:57,960 --> 01:56:00,720
Speaker 3: tomorrow and especially Friday. Let's get some of those games

2286
01:56:00,760 --> 01:56:06,960
Speaker 3: in the NFL. It kicks off tomorrow, Thanksgiving afternoon. Packers

2287
01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:12,160
Speaker 3: Lions ye Lions minus three. The game is in Detroit, Austin.

2288
01:56:12,360 --> 01:56:13,080
Speaker 3: The floor's yours.

2289
01:56:13,400 --> 01:56:16,440
Speaker 4: The Packers never seem to make it easy right every

2290
01:56:16,560 --> 01:56:19,720
Speaker 4: year or every week this season, it's it feels like

2291
01:56:19,800 --> 01:56:23,760
Speaker 4: they're going in the wrong direction, like they're playing down

2292
01:56:23,920 --> 01:56:29,240
Speaker 4: to their opponents. I think they do the opposite this

2293
01:56:29,400 --> 01:56:33,000
Speaker 4: time around. I think they beat Detroit on the road.

2294
01:56:33,120 --> 01:56:36,440
Speaker 4: Detroit just feels like they're they're barely staying alive. Kirby

2295
01:56:36,560 --> 01:56:39,000
Speaker 4: Joseph not going to be playing this game short week,

2296
01:56:39,080 --> 01:56:43,000
Speaker 4: They've been battling injuries all year. Detroit's just tread and water,

2297
01:56:43,520 --> 01:56:45,920
Speaker 4: and I feel like green Bay has just enough to

2298
01:56:46,000 --> 01:56:49,080
Speaker 4: beat them. Yeah, I think it's close, but I think

2299
01:56:49,160 --> 01:56:54,000
Speaker 4: it's a touchdown that green Bay wins by on Thanksgiving.

2300
01:56:54,440 --> 01:56:59,440
Speaker 4: This Packers. Your love crushing the Turduccan after this Packer's.

2301
01:56:59,080 --> 01:57:02,560
Speaker 3: Front against what has been the amazingness of Jamier Gibbs

2302
01:57:02,680 --> 01:57:06,120
Speaker 3: is the storyline for me? I like the Lions at

2303
01:57:06,160 --> 01:57:08,120
Speaker 3: home a little bit hungry. Or I think of the

2304
01:57:08,160 --> 01:57:10,920
Speaker 3: Detroit Lions. I think they take on the persona of

2305
01:57:11,080 --> 01:57:14,080
Speaker 3: Dan Campbell. Give me the Lions to beat the Packers.

2306
01:57:14,120 --> 01:57:17,520
Speaker 3: How about the second game on Thanksgiving? It's the Chiefs

2307
01:57:17,600 --> 01:57:19,640
Speaker 3: coming off a huge win at home against the Colts

2308
01:57:20,120 --> 01:57:22,760
Speaker 3: versus the Cowboys, who'll raise the twenty one point deficit

2309
01:57:23,360 --> 01:57:26,560
Speaker 3: to come back and beat the Eagles. Cowboys season hopes

2310
01:57:26,720 --> 01:57:29,960
Speaker 3: still alive. I'll tell you what, George Pickens has been

2311
01:57:29,960 --> 01:57:34,480
Speaker 3: awesome for the Cowboys. That offense is dangerous. Is it

2312
01:57:34,640 --> 01:57:38,680
Speaker 3: dangerous enough to beat the Chiefs at home Austin.

2313
01:57:39,520 --> 01:57:41,920
Speaker 5: Yes, it is. I got the Cowboys to cover three

2314
01:57:41,960 --> 01:57:42,320
Speaker 5: and a half.

2315
01:57:42,440 --> 01:57:42,680
Speaker 7: Good.

2316
01:57:42,800 --> 01:57:45,600
Speaker 3: We're on opposite ends as well. I think the Chiefs

2317
01:57:45,640 --> 01:57:48,120
Speaker 3: figured some stuff out late in that game against the

2318
01:57:48,200 --> 01:57:51,360
Speaker 3: Colts and lu An Arumo's vaunted defense. I will take

2319
01:57:51,440 --> 01:57:55,160
Speaker 3: the Chiefs to get up early on a bad Dallas

2320
01:57:55,280 --> 01:57:58,960
Speaker 3: defense and Spags does not let the Cowboys back into

2321
01:57:59,000 --> 01:58:02,760
Speaker 3: the game. Bears Eagles Black Friday. If you're not out shopping,

2322
01:58:03,240 --> 01:58:05,680
Speaker 3: if you're just waking up from listening to Austin from

2323
01:58:05,680 --> 01:58:08,280
Speaker 3: one to three in the morning, you're rolling out of bed.

2324
01:58:08,800 --> 01:58:12,960
Speaker 3: Bears Eagles, Eagles are laying seven. Both of these teams

2325
01:58:13,040 --> 01:58:15,320
Speaker 3: have eight wins or seven or yes, eight wins.

2326
01:58:15,360 --> 01:58:15,720
Speaker 5: I'm sorry.

2327
01:58:15,760 --> 01:58:19,120
Speaker 3: It feels like they've gotten here in much different trajectories, though.

2328
01:58:19,480 --> 01:58:21,880
Speaker 3: I think this is an Eagles statement game. They erase

2329
01:58:21,920 --> 01:58:24,800
Speaker 3: the bad loss against Dallas. I think the Bears slip

2330
01:58:24,920 --> 01:58:26,760
Speaker 3: up from how good they've been. Give me the Eagles

2331
01:58:26,800 --> 01:58:27,320
Speaker 3: to win and cover.

2332
01:58:28,400 --> 01:58:31,280
Speaker 4: I disagree with you. I got the Bears. I know

2333
01:58:31,360 --> 01:58:33,640
Speaker 4: their defense has not been great. I think this could

2334
01:58:33,640 --> 01:58:36,200
Speaker 4: be a bit of a high scoring game, but I

2335
01:58:36,240 --> 01:58:39,000
Speaker 4: think Caleb Williams and Jalen Hurtz go back and forth,

2336
01:58:39,240 --> 01:58:40,800
Speaker 4: and I think the Bears find a way to win

2337
01:58:40,840 --> 01:58:43,440
Speaker 4: the Bears because I think Ben Johnson's a better play caller.

2338
01:58:43,560 --> 01:58:45,480
Speaker 3: I just don't understand the line in the forty nine

2339
01:58:45,560 --> 01:58:49,920
Speaker 3: ers in Browns game. It just seems too little for me.

2340
01:58:50,560 --> 01:58:53,600
Speaker 3: I know it's in Cleveland. I know Miles Garrett could

2341
01:58:53,640 --> 01:58:57,440
Speaker 3: very well have seven sacks in this game, but the

2342
01:58:57,560 --> 01:58:59,880
Speaker 3: line right now is still just four and a half.

2343
01:59:00,560 --> 01:59:02,880
Speaker 3: It opened at six and a half and it is

2344
01:59:03,000 --> 01:59:05,680
Speaker 3: now down to four and a half. Something doesn't smell

2345
01:59:05,760 --> 01:59:08,280
Speaker 3: quite right. But last time I checked, the forty nine

2346
01:59:08,320 --> 01:59:10,800
Speaker 3: ers still have Christian McCaffrey. I'll take the Niners on

2347
01:59:10,840 --> 01:59:11,920
Speaker 3: the road to cover four and a half.

2348
01:59:12,160 --> 01:59:16,320
Speaker 4: Short week for San Francisco, cross country trip for San Francisco,

2349
01:59:16,880 --> 01:59:20,520
Speaker 4: Super Bowl caliber defensive line for the Cleveland Browns.

2350
01:59:20,720 --> 01:59:23,400
Speaker 3: Cleveland covers four an look at you drinking the Shadoor

2351
01:59:23,480 --> 01:59:24,200
Speaker 3: kool aid again?

2352
01:59:24,280 --> 01:59:25,120
Speaker 10: No, no, no, no, no, no.

2353
01:59:25,720 --> 01:59:29,240
Speaker 3: Mine time the Texans. I was not familiar with your

2354
01:59:29,360 --> 01:59:33,360
Speaker 3: defense in Houston. That front is phenomenal. They may have

2355
01:59:33,560 --> 01:59:35,880
Speaker 3: just sacked Josh Allen again. I tried to tell you

2356
01:59:36,440 --> 01:59:37,920
Speaker 3: that's a great defensive line.

2357
01:59:38,040 --> 01:59:40,640
Speaker 5: You asked me for the game. I know, I said

2358
01:59:40,680 --> 01:59:43,080
Speaker 5: to watch out for Texans, no defensive line.

2359
01:59:43,200 --> 01:59:47,040
Speaker 3: It's a Colts team coming off just a brutal loss

2360
01:59:47,080 --> 01:59:50,320
Speaker 3: down the stretch. Do the Colts do enough at home?

2361
01:59:51,000 --> 01:59:54,480
Speaker 3: And can the Texans score enough to keep this within

2362
01:59:54,560 --> 01:59:55,080
Speaker 3: four and a half.

2363
01:59:55,320 --> 01:59:59,280
Speaker 4: I do think the Colts continue down their path with

2364
01:59:59,400 --> 02:00:01,880
Speaker 4: running off the I know Danny Dimes has been a

2365
02:00:01,920 --> 02:00:03,760
Speaker 4: little bit banged up, but if they're able to run

2366
02:00:03,840 --> 02:00:07,360
Speaker 4: him at all and kind of neutralize the edge for Houston.

2367
02:00:07,640 --> 02:00:08,080
Speaker 31: I like it.

2368
02:00:08,240 --> 02:00:10,640
Speaker 4: I think Indy can still run the ball on him,

2369
02:00:10,760 --> 02:00:14,840
Speaker 4: So for that reason, I'll take the Colts.

2370
02:00:14,960 --> 02:00:16,960
Speaker 3: I got the Colts as well, just because I don't

2371
02:00:17,200 --> 02:00:20,040
Speaker 3: think the Texans offense will be able to do enough

2372
02:00:20,080 --> 02:00:21,480
Speaker 3: in this game. I think four and a half's a

2373
02:00:21,560 --> 02:00:25,160
Speaker 3: fair number for the Colts to cover. Bills at Steelers.

2374
02:00:25,800 --> 02:00:29,160
Speaker 3: I think the slide continues for the Pittsburgh Steelers. I

2375
02:00:29,360 --> 02:00:34,680
Speaker 3: just feel like in watching Buffalo at least this year Austin,

2376
02:00:35,480 --> 02:00:37,960
Speaker 3: when they do suffer a loss or they go through

2377
02:00:38,000 --> 02:00:41,000
Speaker 3: a game in which they just don't play their best,

2378
02:00:41,080 --> 02:00:42,920
Speaker 3: they respond in a pretty good way. Coming off the

2379
02:00:42,960 --> 02:00:45,080
Speaker 3: loss of the Falcons earlier, they put forty on the

2380
02:00:45,120 --> 02:00:48,680
Speaker 3: board against the Carolina Panthers before beating the Chiefs. After

2381
02:00:48,760 --> 02:00:50,720
Speaker 3: the Dolphins lost, they came back and beat a good

2382
02:00:50,800 --> 02:00:53,680
Speaker 3: Tampa Bay team and put up forty four on the board.

2383
02:00:54,000 --> 02:00:57,240
Speaker 3: It's a bad Steelers defense. It's Josh Allen coming off

2384
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Speaker 3: getting sacked eight times. A lot of questions circulating Buffalo.

2385
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Speaker 3: I think they quiet that and they go and beat

2386
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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh handily.

2387
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Speaker 4: I'm right there with you. I think there's a lot

2388
02:01:05,960 --> 02:01:09,120
Speaker 4: of pressure on Buffalo. I think Josh Allen respawns well

2389
02:01:09,240 --> 02:01:12,080
Speaker 4: to that pressure, and I think that they find a

2390
02:01:12,160 --> 02:01:16,200
Speaker 4: way to beat Pittsburgh. I don't know that it's gonna

2391
02:01:16,200 --> 02:01:18,680
Speaker 4: be double digits, but I think it's going to be

2392
02:01:18,960 --> 02:01:19,840
Speaker 4: more than three and a half.

2393
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Speaker 3: Finally, to cap off your Thanksgiving Tomorrow night, Oh yeah,

2394
02:01:26,240 --> 02:01:31,560
Speaker 3: it's Bengals, It's Ravens. It's Jamar Chase and his nine

2395
02:01:31,720 --> 02:01:34,640
Speaker 3: hundred combined yards. I feel like last year against the

2396
02:01:34,680 --> 02:01:38,520
Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens, it's the return of Joe Burrow. Can the

2397
02:01:38,600 --> 02:01:42,360
Speaker 3: ground game of Chase Brown continue? Does Lamar Jackson and

2398
02:01:42,400 --> 02:01:45,960
Speaker 3: the Ravens offense continue to sputter or do they get

2399
02:01:46,000 --> 02:01:49,680
Speaker 3: their offense figured out? Can the Ravens defensive line produce

2400
02:01:49,720 --> 02:01:51,840
Speaker 3: any pressure? They've not done it this year we talked

2401
02:01:51,840 --> 02:01:54,520
Speaker 3: about how bad the Bengals offense or defensive line has been.

2402
02:01:54,960 --> 02:01:58,320
Speaker 3: Sixteen combined sacks for the Bengals just eighteen combined sacks

2403
02:01:58,600 --> 02:02:01,960
Speaker 3: for the Baltimore Ravens. If they bring pressure, I think

2404
02:02:02,040 --> 02:02:04,800
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase have a big day. If not,

2405
02:02:05,520 --> 02:02:07,640
Speaker 3: if they play bass, I think Chase Brown can have

2406
02:02:07,680 --> 02:02:10,280
Speaker 3: another big day. I can't wait to see this game.

2407
02:02:10,480 --> 02:02:13,600
Speaker 3: There are so many intriguing storylines. I don't know if

2408
02:02:13,640 --> 02:02:15,960
Speaker 3: the Bengals can win, but I think this is a

2409
02:02:16,080 --> 02:02:19,880
Speaker 3: really close Thanksgiving Night game. So I'm comfortable laying that.

2410
02:02:20,040 --> 02:02:23,160
Speaker 3: I'm comfortable taking the seven. Give me the Bengals. For

2411
02:02:23,240 --> 02:02:26,640
Speaker 3: the last couple of years, the Bengals have gotten hot

2412
02:02:26,760 --> 02:02:30,040
Speaker 3: at the end of the season. They have bowed up

2413
02:02:30,320 --> 02:02:33,560
Speaker 3: when they've needed to bow up. They've showed up when

2414
02:02:33,600 --> 02:02:37,120
Speaker 3: they've needed to show. They have with their backs up

2415
02:02:37,160 --> 02:02:42,480
Speaker 3: against the wall. Given themselves opportunity after opportunity after opportunity,

2416
02:02:42,520 --> 02:02:45,360
Speaker 3: they've made the most of it. They are due for

2417
02:02:45,480 --> 02:02:49,280
Speaker 3: one of these games in Baltimore, and powered by the

2418
02:02:49,360 --> 02:02:54,400
Speaker 3: return of their quarterback, our quarterback, Ohio's very own On

2419
02:02:54,640 --> 02:02:58,680
Speaker 3: Thanksgiving with the John Madden patch on the beautiful white uniform,

2420
02:02:59,240 --> 02:03:00,800
Speaker 3: the Bengals make a statement.

2421
02:03:00,720 --> 02:03:03,320
Speaker 4: Yes, Joe Burrow is back. Seasons back on, and so

2422
02:03:03,480 --> 02:03:05,440
Speaker 4: are the Cincinnati Bengals. Seasons back on.

2423
02:03:05,600 --> 02:03:07,720
Speaker 5: Bengals wine, Bengals win.

2424
02:03:08,440 --> 02:03:10,600
Speaker 3: If Chris Chanty is going to go out of his

2425
02:03:10,720 --> 02:03:12,920
Speaker 3: way to give a path to the Bengals to make

2426
02:03:12,920 --> 02:03:15,880
Speaker 3: the playoffs, then he knows something and I'm picking up

2427
02:03:15,920 --> 02:03:19,280
Speaker 3: on it. I love the Bearcats, right, I love the Bengals.

2428
02:03:20,240 --> 02:03:21,880
Speaker 3: One of them has gotta win for us this weekend.

2429
02:03:22,480 --> 02:03:24,280
Speaker 3: I do think the Bengals have a good shot to win.

2430
02:03:24,720 --> 02:03:27,520
Speaker 3: I certainly think the Bengals can cover the number. We

2431
02:03:27,640 --> 02:03:30,480
Speaker 3: take a break. Are we coming back? Right to Chad Brendle.

2432
02:03:31,040 --> 02:03:36,400
Speaker 3: Let's go next, ESBN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station, A service,

2433
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Speaker 3: a Penn station.

2434
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Speaker 8: It's time for Cincy three sixty quick hits on ESPN

2435
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Speaker 8: fifteen thirty.

2436
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Speaker 3: All right, I guess we're not even looking for Mo today.

2437
02:03:51,560 --> 02:03:54,000
Speaker 3: We're just moving right on. If he's not in having

2438
02:03:54,000 --> 02:03:57,000
Speaker 3: a bit of an issue, Chad Brendle's in. Yeah, I'm here, Chad.

2439
02:03:57,000 --> 02:03:58,120
Speaker 3: How are you good?

2440
02:03:58,360 --> 02:03:58,720
Speaker 5: Here ya?

2441
02:03:58,760 --> 02:04:01,360
Speaker 3: How are you good? How did you go today? What

2442
02:04:01,440 --> 02:04:03,480
Speaker 3: do you got coming up on the show today? Thanksgiving Eve?

2443
02:04:03,560 --> 02:04:04,360
Speaker 3: What do you got coming up?

2444
02:04:04,440 --> 02:04:04,600
Speaker 12: Oh?

2445
02:04:04,680 --> 02:04:07,280
Speaker 5: Well, we'll get into the Joe Burrow topic. I don't

2446
02:04:07,280 --> 02:04:07,880
Speaker 5: feel great.

2447
02:04:09,120 --> 02:04:11,080
Speaker 29: When I asked if he was one hundred percent, Joe said,

2448
02:04:11,080 --> 02:04:12,480
Speaker 29: I think I'm I'm good enough to win.

2449
02:04:13,320 --> 02:04:14,280
Speaker 5: It makes me a little.

2450
02:04:14,120 --> 02:04:18,840
Speaker 29: Nervous, not gonna lie, but look, there's no other you're

2451
02:04:18,920 --> 02:04:23,600
Speaker 29: not You're paying Joe Burrow over a quarter of a

2452
02:04:23,720 --> 02:04:30,560
Speaker 29: billion dollars. There's seven games left. There's no world where

2453
02:04:30,600 --> 02:04:32,080
Speaker 29: he's healthy and you don't play.

2454
02:04:32,640 --> 02:04:35,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, that that doesn't. That doesn't.

2455
02:04:35,520 --> 02:04:38,000
Speaker 29: If there was two or three games left, then that's

2456
02:04:38,040 --> 02:04:41,080
Speaker 29: a decision that you have to make. The season's over.

2457
02:04:41,240 --> 02:04:43,520
Speaker 29: We got two or three games left. What are we

2458
02:04:43,640 --> 02:04:46,640
Speaker 29: gonna get by Joe coming back? There's set there's you know,

2459
02:04:46,920 --> 02:04:50,880
Speaker 29: just under half of the season left. He's a football player.

2460
02:04:51,280 --> 02:04:56,000
Speaker 29: Go play games if they fall tomorrow. Yeah, and they're

2461
02:04:56,080 --> 02:04:59,200
Speaker 29: mathematically out of it. And let's just say that his

2462
02:04:59,360 --> 02:05:02,440
Speaker 29: pocket move it looks labored. Let's say that. Then you

2463
02:05:02,560 --> 02:05:05,880
Speaker 29: revisit conversation shots. Yeah, now you're out of it. Do

2464
02:05:06,000 --> 02:05:07,880
Speaker 29: you want to send them to Buffalo and have him

2465
02:05:07,920 --> 02:05:08,560
Speaker 29: start in that game?

2466
02:05:08,640 --> 02:05:08,880
Speaker 14: Are you?

2467
02:05:09,600 --> 02:05:11,560
Speaker 5: Are you in the sense of it's a game by

2468
02:05:11,720 --> 02:05:13,200
Speaker 5: game scenario at this point?

2469
02:05:13,320 --> 02:05:13,760
Speaker 7: Yeah? Yeah.

2470
02:05:13,840 --> 02:05:16,240
Speaker 29: I mean I don't think you can like, oh no,

2471
02:05:16,680 --> 02:05:18,440
Speaker 29: he took two hard hits. We can't play him the

2472
02:05:18,480 --> 02:05:19,160
Speaker 29: rest of the season.

2473
02:05:19,720 --> 02:05:19,840
Speaker 12: Uh.

2474
02:05:19,960 --> 02:05:22,160
Speaker 29: But but there's stuff that I need to see Tony.

2475
02:05:23,680 --> 02:05:26,800
Speaker 29: Is he going under center more? Are they doing more?

2476
02:05:26,920 --> 02:05:32,240
Speaker 29: Because this line has effective, this line looks competent. Again,

2477
02:05:32,440 --> 02:05:34,200
Speaker 29: this is the second time now that Joe Burrow has

2478
02:05:34,240 --> 02:05:38,360
Speaker 29: been out and in his absence, the line looks different.

2479
02:05:39,640 --> 02:05:44,640
Speaker 29: So is Joe Burrow going to adapt and say, Okay,

2480
02:05:44,720 --> 02:05:48,040
Speaker 29: maybe the way I want to play needs some modifications.

2481
02:05:48,240 --> 02:05:50,240
Speaker 29: Maybe we can mix in the way I want to play,

2482
02:05:50,520 --> 02:05:53,640
Speaker 29: but it doesn't have to be seventy snaps a game.

2483
02:05:54,080 --> 02:05:56,640
Speaker 29: Maybe we run the stuff I want to start, run

2484
02:05:56,720 --> 02:05:59,200
Speaker 29: twenty thirty snaps a game, and then we do some

2485
02:05:59,320 --> 02:06:02,480
Speaker 29: other stuff that it's gonna not get me killed. Yeah,

2486
02:06:02,960 --> 02:06:06,440
Speaker 29: so there's things I want to see from now until

2487
02:06:06,560 --> 02:06:09,880
Speaker 29: whenever it is he's not playing for the Bengals the

2488
02:06:09,960 --> 02:06:11,160
Speaker 29: rest of this season.

2489
02:06:12,880 --> 02:06:15,240
Speaker 3: You'll be on Friday. I won't have a chance to

2490
02:06:15,280 --> 02:06:18,920
Speaker 3: talk to you before then about it. The importance of

2491
02:06:19,000 --> 02:06:23,240
Speaker 3: Saturday's game at its massive, like just just the vibes

2492
02:06:23,280 --> 02:06:26,880
Speaker 3: alone to get a win, to get to eight. I mean,

2493
02:06:26,920 --> 02:06:30,040
Speaker 3: I think that's what we all agreed upon in the

2494
02:06:30,160 --> 02:06:36,280
Speaker 3: offseason was look seven, okay, but how you've gotten to seven?

2495
02:06:36,520 --> 02:06:39,720
Speaker 3: Well even just just in general, like you play. Those

2496
02:06:39,720 --> 02:06:42,520
Speaker 3: are the three best teams they've played this year. Now,

2497
02:06:43,080 --> 02:06:45,520
Speaker 3: the frustrating part is I think they were equally as

2498
02:06:45,600 --> 02:06:47,240
Speaker 3: talented as Arizona and BYU.

2499
02:06:47,640 --> 02:06:49,960
Speaker 29: They didn't play well enough to win. Yeah, those teams

2500
02:06:50,000 --> 02:06:55,400
Speaker 29: played better, So that's that's frustrating. But just eight, just

2501
02:06:55,520 --> 02:06:58,560
Speaker 29: getting to eight, potential to get to nine, how much

2502
02:06:58,680 --> 02:07:01,640
Speaker 29: different three four years from now. Well, we look back

2503
02:07:01,720 --> 02:07:05,200
Speaker 29: on this season if they're nine and four as opposed

2504
02:07:05,240 --> 02:07:09,640
Speaker 29: to seven and six. So just and recruiting, it would

2505
02:07:09,680 --> 02:07:13,960
Speaker 29: be a nice lift to the recruiting department to show, hey,

2506
02:07:14,080 --> 02:07:15,880
Speaker 29: this is we can get to eight nine wins in

2507
02:07:15,920 --> 02:07:18,560
Speaker 29: this league, and I think it shows great progress. Plus,

2508
02:07:18,840 --> 02:07:21,600
Speaker 29: you're gonna finish top five in this league if you

2509
02:07:21,720 --> 02:07:25,320
Speaker 29: win on Saturday. If not, you're gonna be eighth, ninth.

2510
02:07:25,400 --> 02:07:29,560
Speaker 29: Whatever you did, difference, you didn't elevate into the upper third.

2511
02:07:29,640 --> 02:07:32,600
Speaker 29: You hung out in the middle third. It's a huge difference.

2512
02:07:33,840 --> 02:07:39,240
Speaker 29: Tonight Eastern Michigan, U see basketball. You get tonight, you

2513
02:07:39,320 --> 02:07:41,600
Speaker 29: get Monday, and then it's the shootout, and then after

2514
02:07:41,600 --> 02:07:45,040
Speaker 29: the shootout, it's Georgia, it's Clemson. You're coming up on

2515
02:07:45,160 --> 02:07:48,720
Speaker 29: your Big twelve opener, which is Houston, who has just

2516
02:07:49,040 --> 02:07:50,920
Speaker 29: picked up again right where they left off.

2517
02:07:51,040 --> 02:07:55,360
Speaker 3: Have you watched them? Yes, Kingston, Yep, it's gonna be

2518
02:07:55,400 --> 02:07:56,160
Speaker 3: the same Houston team.

2519
02:07:56,800 --> 02:07:57,240
Speaker 5: They're gonna be.

2520
02:07:58,040 --> 02:08:01,600
Speaker 3: Yes eventually with that Beans said, what do you look

2521
02:08:01,680 --> 02:08:04,000
Speaker 3: for in a game like tonight? Knowing you don't have

2522
02:08:04,200 --> 02:08:07,240
Speaker 3: many more of these? I don't want to say, gimme

2523
02:08:07,360 --> 02:08:09,840
Speaker 3: your twenty two point favorite. You don't have many more

2524
02:08:09,880 --> 02:08:11,400
Speaker 3: of these left. What do you need to see from

2525
02:08:11,440 --> 02:08:14,480
Speaker 3: this team now as you go forward? Less of what

2526
02:08:14,600 --> 02:08:19,280
Speaker 3: we saw the first ten minutes on Monday, where it

2527
02:08:19,400 --> 02:08:21,720
Speaker 3: just kind of looked like they were, you know, and

2528
02:08:21,840 --> 02:08:26,720
Speaker 3: some of that was in Jit throughout that weird zone man,

2529
02:08:27,160 --> 02:08:31,040
Speaker 3: hybrid whatever defense, but they didn't look connected in the

2530
02:08:31,120 --> 02:08:33,880
Speaker 3: first ten minutes of that game. They looked much better

2531
02:08:34,160 --> 02:08:35,960
Speaker 3: the rest of the way. I want to see the

2532
02:08:36,040 --> 02:08:38,080
Speaker 3: rest of the way, and then I want to see

2533
02:08:38,520 --> 02:08:40,960
Speaker 3: more Jordi Rodriguez. I want to see him get up

2534
02:08:41,000 --> 02:08:43,080
Speaker 3: to the point where we see more Jordi Rodriguez, we

2535
02:08:43,120 --> 02:08:47,640
Speaker 3: see more Tyler McKinley, we see more Keishaan Tillery because

2536
02:08:47,720 --> 02:08:51,720
Speaker 3: those guys, I thought in j t is terrible, terrible,

2537
02:08:52,480 --> 02:08:55,120
Speaker 3: But those guys need confidence because at.

2538
02:08:55,080 --> 02:08:57,360
Speaker 29: Times in the Big twelve you're gonna need them. I

2539
02:08:57,360 --> 02:08:58,920
Speaker 29: don't think we see Bob at tonight.

2540
02:08:59,240 --> 02:09:02,000
Speaker 3: Which a good point about Rodriguez too, Like overseas you

2541
02:09:02,120 --> 02:09:04,040
Speaker 3: play once a week, Yeah, and you get a lot

2542
02:09:04,080 --> 02:09:05,720
Speaker 3: of practice time and build up and now you're playing

2543
02:09:05,760 --> 02:09:07,760
Speaker 3: multiple games a week. The build up time I think

2544
02:09:07,840 --> 02:09:08,680
Speaker 3: is important as well.

2545
02:09:08,760 --> 02:09:12,040
Speaker 29: But the physicality for the European guys, it's a different game,

2546
02:09:12,400 --> 02:09:15,000
Speaker 29: Like you don't get bumped and chucked and you don't

2547
02:09:15,080 --> 02:09:18,080
Speaker 29: you know, you get the runoff screens pretty free. He's

2548
02:09:18,120 --> 02:09:21,120
Speaker 29: adjusting to that. I love Jordi Rodriguez. I think he's

2549
02:09:21,160 --> 02:09:23,640
Speaker 29: got a chance as he adjusts to be really good here. Yeah,

2550
02:09:23,920 --> 02:09:26,320
Speaker 29: I want to see him continue to gain some confidence.

2551
02:09:26,400 --> 02:09:27,600
Speaker 5: What else you got coming up on the show.

2552
02:09:27,800 --> 02:09:31,400
Speaker 29: We're talking about Hunter Green? Oh do you trade him?

2553
02:09:31,600 --> 02:09:33,880
Speaker 29: Do you not trade him? How do you look at

2554
02:09:33,920 --> 02:09:39,200
Speaker 29: this situation? Like, of you know you're gonna hurt your

2555
02:09:39,240 --> 02:09:43,200
Speaker 29: pitching depth and maybe lose your number one guy. But

2556
02:09:43,520 --> 02:09:45,760
Speaker 29: we've already been told they don't have the money to

2557
02:09:45,800 --> 02:09:47,520
Speaker 29: go get a bat. Sure, so you got to get

2558
02:09:47,560 --> 02:09:50,240
Speaker 29: a bat. Do you think Nicklodolo is gonna bring a

2559
02:09:50,280 --> 02:09:54,320
Speaker 29: great bat? No, Chase Burns will probably get you a

2560
02:09:54,400 --> 02:09:57,200
Speaker 29: pretty good bat. Not trading Chase Barns at this point

2561
02:09:57,200 --> 02:10:00,360
Speaker 29: in time. So really, the only guy, if you're going

2562
02:10:00,400 --> 02:10:03,240
Speaker 29: to improve this offense, the only guy on the table

2563
02:10:03,320 --> 02:10:04,800
Speaker 29: to do it is Hunter Green. Do I want to

2564
02:10:04,840 --> 02:10:07,960
Speaker 29: trade Hunter Green? No, But taking all the information that

2565
02:10:08,080 --> 02:10:10,400
Speaker 29: I have, I'm listening.

2566
02:10:10,640 --> 02:10:11,200
Speaker 5: The only thing that.

2567
02:10:11,200 --> 02:10:13,080
Speaker 3: Worries me about Hunter Green and I'm a huge Hunter

2568
02:10:13,160 --> 02:10:16,080
Speaker 3: Green fan and I love the contract. There's just something

2569
02:10:16,080 --> 02:10:18,240
Speaker 3: about watching him in that playoff game where it almost

2570
02:10:18,280 --> 02:10:21,920
Speaker 3: felt like the moment was too much. Yeah, he's bouncing balls,

2571
02:10:22,040 --> 02:10:24,040
Speaker 3: he was all over the place. You could just tell

2572
02:10:24,120 --> 02:10:27,920
Speaker 3: he couldn't calm himself down. And you watch the rest

2573
02:10:27,920 --> 02:10:30,640
Speaker 3: of the playoffs. You see rookies going to the playoffs

2574
02:10:30,680 --> 02:10:32,480
Speaker 3: that I don't remember the guy's name for the Yankees,

2575
02:10:32,520 --> 02:10:35,960
Speaker 3: but rookie went into Yankee Stadium against the Red Sox

2576
02:10:36,160 --> 02:10:38,680
Speaker 3: like you dominate. You either have it or you don't.

2577
02:10:38,760 --> 02:10:40,840
Speaker 3: I worry a little bit about that moment and how

2578
02:10:40,880 --> 02:10:43,760
Speaker 3: it felt for Hunter Green. Yeah, and it felt too

2579
02:10:43,800 --> 02:10:46,000
Speaker 3: big there, Yes, it felt too big. The other thing

2580
02:10:46,080 --> 02:10:49,400
Speaker 3: that bothers me Tony He's had one season where he's

2581
02:10:49,440 --> 02:10:51,920
Speaker 3: throwing one hundred and fifty innings, and he threw exactly

2582
02:10:52,480 --> 02:10:55,360
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty innings. He is so far been

2583
02:10:55,400 --> 02:10:58,560
Speaker 3: a twenty twenty two game starter, and he had one

2584
02:10:58,640 --> 02:11:01,120
Speaker 3: season with twenty six. Everything else has been twenty two

2585
02:11:01,120 --> 02:11:05,560
Speaker 3: and under. Can you have your ace miss ten starts

2586
02:11:05,600 --> 02:11:05,920
Speaker 3: a year?

2587
02:11:06,160 --> 02:11:06,360
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2588
02:11:06,880 --> 02:11:10,640
Speaker 3: I don't feel comfortable with that, and this offense needs

2589
02:11:10,880 --> 02:11:16,320
Speaker 3: significant help. Lastly, what is your what is your stance

2590
02:11:16,440 --> 02:11:19,280
Speaker 3: on stuffing? And what's your go to Thanksgiving meal toll?

2591
02:11:19,360 --> 02:11:21,880
Speaker 29: You let me ask you a question, how many times

2592
02:11:22,760 --> 02:11:26,680
Speaker 29: from January first to December thirty first, in any given

2593
02:11:26,800 --> 02:11:29,960
Speaker 29: year do you have stuffing for dinner?

2594
02:11:30,400 --> 02:11:30,640
Speaker 7: With you?

2595
02:11:30,720 --> 02:11:34,400
Speaker 3: With jeffing, I'm anti stuffing, like I got you crushed

2596
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Speaker 3: for it today. You're making my point like we're on

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Speaker 3: the same team. If stuffing was good, it'd be served

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Speaker 3: more people would eat it. You know what's good, tony

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Speaker 3: mashed potatoes? You know how often we eat mashed potatoes

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Speaker 3: a lot?

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Speaker 9: You know?

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Speaker 5: You know what's good?

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Speaker 29: Mac and cheese. You know how often we eat mac

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Speaker 29: and cheese, desserts, desserts, yep, turkey, you know you know

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Speaker 29: it's not good stuffing, green bean casserole. We have that

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Speaker 29: once a year's stuffing once a year. If that stuff

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Speaker 29: was good, if that crap was good, thank you, then

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Speaker 29: we'd eat it more than the last Thursday in November

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Speaker 29: and then forget about it.

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Speaker 5: For three hundred and sixty four days. It stinks.

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Speaker 3: Case dismissed. Thank you, Chad. Ched Brendle is Next, We're

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Speaker 3: done thanks to Austin Elmore. I'm Tony Pike. This has

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Speaker 3: been Thanksgiving sins. Happy Thanksgiving everyone, enjoy Chad Breundle on

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Speaker 3: The Mowago Show. Next on the sc Cincinnati Sports station.

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Speaker 5: Hey what if you could pull up to five hundred

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Speaker 5: thous