1 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: But to City's news Talk. 2 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: Am eleven thirty one O three five FM, ICE agents 3 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: left the pro text yesterday afternoon, and as they did, 4 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 2: Angela deeb knelt on the pavement, comforted by other protesters 5 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 2: as she recovered from being pepper sprayed by one of 6 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 2: the federal agents, saying, I was kind of in her face. 7 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: This would be Angela talking about the agent. I was 8 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 2: at her window and I was telling her, you're teaching 9 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 2: your kids to be racist. I said that, Deep said, 10 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: I said that in her window, and some dude came 11 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: up and he pushed me and I got sprayed. It 12 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: was worth it, she said, because I wouldn't be here 13 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: it wasn't for immigrants. 14 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 3: I know that. 15 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 1: You know what I'm just going to give af You're 16 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: fascinating to talk to. 17 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 2: Federal agents confronted by protesters during operation at Saint Paul Company. 18 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but this is what I 19 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: voted for, holding people accountable for their actions. I'm as 20 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 2: curious as anybody else, and I'm sure we'll get the 21 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: details as to the individuals that were arrested. In the 22 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 2: background of these individuals, but therein lies the point, and 23 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: that is these protesters. They're essentially aligning with individuals who 24 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: are being legitimately arrested for crimes without even knowing what 25 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: it is that they're being arrested for. 26 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: It's folly. 27 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 2: It's pure folly, all driven by politics, because it doesn't 28 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: matter what these individuals did. I mean, as we demonstrate 29 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: the first part of the show, you have Democrats texting 30 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 2: with known pedophiles in attempts to get an advantage during 31 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 2: congressional hearings when they're talking about Trump. That's the links 32 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: that they will go to try to go and vilify 33 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: and demonize the presidents and Republicans. So when you look 34 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: at the sort of list of the different heinous things 35 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 2: that those leftists will stoop to, getting involved in a 36 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 2: protest and fighting for individuals who have broken the law 37 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 2: without even knowing what laws they've broken, ends up being 38 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: kind of low down on the list. Let's get to 39 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 2: some of your thoughts from the iHeartRadio app. Talkbacks are 40 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: brought to you by Lyndall Realty. As we continue our 41 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 2: broadcast from the six five to one Carpet Next Day 42 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: Install Studios, What. 43 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 4: It means to be American has dramatically shifted from God 44 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 4: Family country, personal accountability, creating something generational to pass down 45 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 4: to the protest movements of the sixties. Social issues, social justice, 46 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 4: standing up for what's right, and the fact that you 47 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 4: have to virtue signal in order for people to know 48 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 4: that you are that person, that you are the right 49 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 4: American that we're looking for in this country. And this 50 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 4: has splintered men and women and created such a divide. 51 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 3: Nothing screams justice for illegal aliens more than a dancing 52 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 3: frog and a unicorn. 53 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 2: The truer words may not be spoken on this morning show. 54 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: Thank you for the comment. So let's go here. This 55 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 2: caught my eye earlier in the week Minnesota Reformer. It's 56 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: a left leaning publication. 57 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: I like going there. 58 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: Because you get the other side. You hear the arguments 59 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 2: from those on the left in a rather rational, common 60 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 2: sense manner. But therein lies also the danger as people 61 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 2: read this, because they may not look deep enough into 62 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: what is actually being said to realize that it ultimately 63 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 2: ends up being a bunch of gobbly goook putting it plainly, 64 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 2: using the military to police Americans used to alarm conservatives 65 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:30,799 Speaker 2: for good reason. 66 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: Minnesota Reformer written by A. Matt Elling. 67 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 2: He's a Saint Paul, based, a television producer who has 68 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: over thirty years experience in journalism as well as a 69 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 2: nonpartisan public advocacy around civil liberties government accountability issues, wrote 70 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 2: a piece on behalf of the Forum for Constitutional Rights. 71 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 2: And yet all that journalism experience and this piece is filled, 72 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: or I should say, is lacking in rational common sense. 73 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: So let me share with you some of what Matt 74 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 2: wrote here. Since June of this year, the Trump administration 75 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: has deployed or attempted to deploy federalized National Guard troops 76 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 2: to several major US cities against the wishes of their 77 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 2: state governors. Litigation over these actions has reached the US 78 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 2: Supreme Court and their emergency docket in a case involving 79 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: the deployment of federalized National Guard troops in Chicago. So 80 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 2: we're still awaiting the ruling on that the Supreme Court 81 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 2: is wanting a definition of irregular forces doing that thing 82 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: with my fingers coming from the Trump administration relating to 83 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 2: the deployment orders. So right now we're really just dealing 84 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 2: with the situation of immigrations and customs enforcement, like what 85 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 2: happened in Saint Paul yesterday and what's been happening in Charlotte, 86 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 2: North Carolina. So the article writer goes on to say 87 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 2: one of the last times the court spoke to such 88 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 2: issues was nineteen ninety in a case involving Minnesota. Former 89 00:05:55,000 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 2: Minnesota Governor Rudy Perpitch talks about the court the president's 90 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 2: lawfully federalizing National Guard troops. He says, the facts in 91 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 2: the current case are much different. 92 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: Okay. 93 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 2: He admits it involving the deployment of federalized troops to 94 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 2: support civil authorities enforcing laws inside the United States. 95 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 5: Okay. 96 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 2: The administration's push he goes on to right for broad 97 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 2: authority to deploy the military on the home front has 98 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 2: been uniformly opposed by Democrats, but has not yet generated 99 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 2: substantial pushback from Conservatives, despite their opposition in decades past. 100 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: Okay. 101 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: Then he talks about the nineteen ninety three standoff between 102 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 2: federal agents and the Branch Davidian religious group ending in 103 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 2: the fiery con conflagration in Waco, Texas. For federal agents, 104 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 2: six Davidians died during the gunfight that erupted during the 105 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 2: Dynamic Entry SWAT raid on the Davidians headquarters. 106 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: So, first off, here. 107 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 2: There's a fundamentally different set of circumstances, almost incomparable. Beyond 108 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 2: law enforcement agencies being involved in this case, they were talking. 109 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: About SWAT. 110 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 2: And this is just the first example of what I 111 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 2: mean by how this peace. While it attempts to argue 112 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 2: and lay out the premise that conservatives are being hypocritical 113 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: because they used to care about militarized enforcement on the 114 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: streets of America and now they don't, the examples that 115 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 2: he gives are completely and totally flawed because they have 116 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 2: nothing to do with what we're dealing with currently, specifically 117 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: relating to immigrations and customs enforcement. Just given the fact 118 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 2: that this was something that Trump ran on and Republicans 119 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 2: voted for. I have not talked to a single MAGA 120 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 2: voter or heard from a single Trump supporter who has 121 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 2: ever told me otherwise that I voted for Trump, but 122 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 2: I certainly didn't want him to do anything about immigration 123 00:07:55,600 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 2: and illegal immigration. He goes on to right the Waco raid, 124 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: including the use of military assets against civilians, alarmed the 125 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 2: political right. In the fall of nineteen ninety three, I 126 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 2: traveled with the colleague to a conference in Vevay, Indiana, 127 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 2: to conduct television interviews with attendees concerned about Waco and 128 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 2: its legacy. Again, the premise of comparing Waco and the 129 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 2: concerns there and either the suppressing of violence through a 130 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:31,679 Speaker 2: show of force or enforcing immigration law is fundamentally different. 131 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 2: Those are two different things that were taking place. So 132 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: I'll provide to you a little bit more from this 133 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 2: piece because it's certainly relevant to the conversation we've been 134 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 2: having over these ice raids and the fact that I 135 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 2: expect that they are going to continue not just in 136 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: Saint Paul, but also in the Twin Cities as well 137 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 2: as the Trump administration focuses currently on Charlotte, North Carolina, 138 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: which has its own set of controversies, including local publications 139 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 2: that are Dea spertly trying to stir the pot of 140 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 2: controversy of what's taking place in Charlotte, North Carolina. We'll 141 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 2: get to your comments as well from the iHeartRadio app 142 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 2: and coming up at the bottom of the hour, we'll 143 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 2: talk with Jenna Globe from Alphanews, and we'll get the 144 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 2: latest from Alphanus available at alphanus dot org. It's all 145 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,599 Speaker 2: coming up on Twinsday's News Talk AM eleven thirty and 146 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 2: one oh three five FM, Good. 147 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 5: Morning, and I love your show. 148 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: I thought it's marketing. 149 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 6: Brighton the obvious difference between the Waco situation what's going 150 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 6: on with ICE right now is that we were dealing 151 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 6: with US citizens in the case of Waco, and the 152 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 6: Clinton administration essentially killed everyone involved in the branch Davidian things. 153 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 6: They've burned their compound to the ground. Yeah, slight distinction 154 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 6: between that in a raid on people who are in 155 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:50,719 Speaker 6: the country illegally. Thanks. 156 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 2: It speaks to the lengths that those on the left 157 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 2: and supposed smart people have to go to try to 158 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: make a point that isn't based in any kind of reality. 159 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: In this case. 160 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 2: Minnesota reformer matt Elling here on Twin Cities News Talk 161 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 2: from the six five to one carpet Next Day install studios. 162 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 2: Using the military to police Americans used to alarm conservatives 163 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 2: for good reason, and yet the example that he gives 164 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 2: is the talkback Mark just mentioned. It was Waco, of 165 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 2: all places. There's no comparison between the two. What conservatives 166 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 2: are supporting right now is going and enforcing the law 167 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 2: holding individuals accountable. The future of the country rests on 168 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 2: this issue. The future of the state of Minnesota rests 169 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 2: on this issue. Ninety percent of the issues that we 170 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 2: talk about on a daily basis, there is a directed 171 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 2: through line relating to illegal immigration. That's why the Biden 172 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 2: ad Ministry for those four years allowed those millions upon 173 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 2: millions of individuals to flood into the country illegally. It's 174 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 2: not something that can be solved overnight. It's not going 175 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 2: to be easy. But this is what I voted for, 176 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 2: and there's no comparison to what took place at Waco. 177 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 2: At the end of this piece, the article writer says, 178 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 2: conservatives of a generation ago raise concerns about the exact 179 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 2: kinds of military operations that are occurring on the streets 180 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 2: of America today. No, they didn't, because these types of 181 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 2: operations that are occurring on the streets of America today 182 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 2: weren't taking place because. 183 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: We didn't have the issue the way that we do 184 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: now for them. 185 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 2: He writes, Waco and Ruby Ridge proved ample evidence of 186 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 2: the danger posed by military operations bleeding into civilian law enforcement, 187 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 2: distorting the missions of both institutions. The piece wraps up 188 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,719 Speaker 2: with this, while again continues and this is regarding the 189 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 2: National Guard. If you wanted to have a conversation regarding 190 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 2: the National Guard and what he's speaking to, and it's 191 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 2: a little bit more aligned with what took place at Waco, 192 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 2: for example, but still not quite such. And he is 193 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 2: right that there has been concerned concerns by some conservatives 194 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 2: in the past of the militarization of law enforcement, just 195 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 2: like there has been on the left. Most of that 196 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:29,359 Speaker 2: was brought out of nine to eleven and the proliferation 197 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 2: of military type vehicles that ended up landing in the 198 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 2: possession of law enforcement agencies around the country. But again, 199 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 2: we're talking about a completely differentition to what we're dealing 200 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 2: with right now when it comes to immigrations and customs enforcement. 201 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 2: But he says, while the litigation continues, there's also a 202 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 2: deeper political question at play whether the traditional small government 203 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:56,479 Speaker 2: conservatism will reassert itself and help diffuse Trump's military brinksmanship. 204 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 2: You know for this suppose it's smart, dude. He loves 205 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 2: conflating the issues of small government conservatism and what Ice 206 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 2: is doing right now on the streets of Saint Paul. 207 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 3: Hey John. 208 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 6: Since we went back in the way back machine to 209 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 6: branch the Vidian what happened that week, Well, don't forget 210 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 6: about Ian Gonzah. 211 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I forgot about that one, Lou, You're right. 212 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 2: The last line in this piece the answer to that 213 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 2: question diffusing Trump's military brinksmanship. The answer to that question 214 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 2: will have profound effects in the shape of both American 215 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 2: conservatism and presidential power for years to come. He completely 216 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 2: and I mean completely, avoided the fundamental difference that the 217 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 2: limited National Guard and larger ICE deployments is almost solely 218 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 2: and exclusively focused on illegal immigration, criminal deportations, and in 219 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 2: the case of national Guard violence in large metro areas, 220 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 2: that is taking place because the Democrats in charge in 221 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 2: those metropolitan areas are allowing it to happen for their 222 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 2: own political viability and to perpetuate their narratives. And that 223 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 2: the use of specifically ICE is in no small part 224 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 2: because of the sanctuary policies that have left taxpayers with 225 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 2: no law enforcement at the state level tackling criminal illegal immigration. 226 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: So if that means we need to have ICE agents 227 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 2: on our streets going and dealing with these issues, then 228 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 2: we need to have ICE agents on our streets dealing 229 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 2: with these issues, because I'll say it again, ninety percent 230 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 2: of the issues that we're faced with, and that rings 231 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 2: true nationwide, and certainly probably more like ninety five percent 232 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 2: here in the state of Menannesota is directly tied back 233 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 2: to illegal immigration on a I mean and just you 234 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 2: name the issue, and there is a through line to 235 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 2: illegal immigration. 236 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: Coming up. 237 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 2: Talk Back of the Day is on the way. Plus 238 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 2: we'll talk with Jenna Globe from Alphanus. Got a handful 239 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 2: of stories viral California singer joining in protest against Minnesota's 240 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 2: trans prison policy, and also in the appeals court revives 241 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 2: the case of a shockapy mom fired after protesting mask 242 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 2: mandates just a few of the items that we'll talk 243 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 2: about with Jenda Globe, your talkbacks and the talk Back 244 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 2: of the Day. 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In this case, 254 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 2: it happens to be Scott for the Talkback of the Day. 255 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 2: Brought to you by Mini Leaf minileaf dot com, m 256 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 2: I N N E L e a f dot. 257 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 7: Com Friend of the show from Lenstrom, I'm always willing 258 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 7: to help. Thanksgiving is going to fall on a Thursday 259 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 7: this year, and. 260 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 2: That is your talkback of the day, brought to you 261 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 2: by Mini Leaf. For those that missed it, I started 262 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 2: off the show this morning with an incredibly compelling conversation 263 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 2: about why it feels like Thanksgiving has moved, in which 264 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 2: case it does still always take place on the fourth 265 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 2: Thursday of the month, but sometimes you get almost an 266 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 2: extra week depending. 267 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: On when the month starts. Some people saying was the 268 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: Mandela effect and it wasn't. 269 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 2: So if you missed that riveting conversation, which trust me, 270 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 2: it was a lot better when I talked about it 271 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 2: the first hour of the show, you can check out 272 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 2: the podcast available on the iHeartRadio app. You know Jenna 273 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 2: Globe from ALF News, I don't know about you. See, 274 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 2: I start celebrating Christmas early now because of when Thanksgiving, 275 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 2: when it falls on the fourth Thursday of the month, 276 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 2: as it does every year, but when it falls at 277 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 2: the very last week of the month, as opposed to 278 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 2: giving us a week in between. I just start celebrating 279 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 2: Christmas early. We already have our tree up. And I sense, Jenna, 280 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 2: I don't know you that well, but I sense that 281 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 2: you're a person that gets into the Christmas spirit early 282 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 2: and does not wait until all the turkey is consumed 283 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: on Thanksgiving? 284 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 1: Am I right? Or am I wrong? 285 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 5: You are right? However, my teenage son is a Thanksgiving 286 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 5: tourist and he gives me the hardest time about doing 287 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,719 Speaker 5: anything Christmas Eve before Thanksgiving. So I do what I 288 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 5: call a soft launch. Okay, we don't put up a 289 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 5: tree yet, but I do. I sprinkle a lot of red, 290 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 5: a lot of green throughout best of both worlds. I like. 291 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 2: I like that saw a soft Christmas launch. That may 292 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 2: be the best thing that I've heard all all morning, 293 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 2: and I've I've heard a lot today. So, Jenna Globe 294 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 2: from Alpha News, it's been a while. Thank you so 295 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 2: much for joining the show this morning. It's good to 296 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 2: talk with you. 297 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 5: It has it's great to be on again. 298 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 1: All right, So let's start here. 299 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 2: I know that an Alpha News you, Jenna, along with 300 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 2: Liz Collin and others at Alpha News, you've really been 301 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 2: at the forefront of the issues regarding trans prison policies. 302 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: And I know there's a. 303 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 2: Recent story where there's been quite a bit of coverage 304 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 2: of what's been taking place here. And as the story 305 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 2: that I have in front of me mentioned, and I 306 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 2: completely agree, a black lesbian singer from California also not 307 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 2: on my bingo card to be talked about on the show, 308 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 2: but talk about this major critic of transgender women in 309 00:18:55,160 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 2: female spaces and this singer from California's involvement in the 310 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 2: most recent attempts to bring this to national attention. 311 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know a lot of your listeners may be 312 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 5: familiar with Tish Hymen. I grew to know who she 313 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 5: was last week after seeing her viral videos on Twitter 314 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 5: and then she was all over the news. She's a 315 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 5: lady who was at a Gold gym who filmed a 316 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 5: biological man inside her locker room and complained about it 317 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 5: and then ultimately was kicked out of the gym. Her 318 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 5: membership was suspended or terminated by Gold Gym. And she 319 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 5: has this amazing viral video where she's sort of in 320 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 5: a lobbyist She's just letting everybody know what happened in 321 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 5: a pretty funny and just like in your face type 322 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 5: of way. So she's just gotten a ton of attention 323 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 5: because you know, she says, I'm a lesbian, I'm a 324 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 5: black woman, I check all the boxes. She's supported a 325 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 5: lot of Democratic candidates in her state of California, and 326 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 5: she says, I'm not transphobic, but I see what's happening 327 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 5: here and it's dangerous for women and young children. And 328 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 5: so she's just become this unlikely ally in this in 329 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 5: this space for people criticizing biological men in female spaces 330 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 5: and sports. 331 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been. 332 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 2: Really interesting to see and it hasn't received a lot 333 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 2: of media attention, and it's understandably so you've seen your 334 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 2: more conservative outlets or outlets like yourself, and I aren't 335 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 2: afraid to go and report the truth. 336 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: But there has. 337 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 2: Been a growing number of individuals within the gay community 338 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 2: who end up describing when you look at the LGBTQ, 339 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 2: they would say that they're aligned with the LG or 340 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 2: the lgb portion, but are distancing themselves from the the 341 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 2: TQ and other letters that are typically attached with that acronym. 342 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 2: And they've been calling out how listen, we've been at 343 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 2: the forefront of equal rights relating to the gay community. 344 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 2: But what's been taking place with the controversy surrounding the 345 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 2: trans community and the rest of that acronym, they're not 346 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 2: on board with, and they've been siding with a lot 347 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 2: of conservatives. And in this case, she actually came here 348 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 2: to Minnesota to rally alongside protesters outside of the Shokapi 349 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 2: Women's prison. Correct, And this has been an ongoing controversy 350 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 2: as of late dealing with what's been taking place inside 351 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 2: of this Minnesota prison. 352 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 5: Right, Jenna, Yes, and she was she was here on 353 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 5: Sunday talking to a group of protesters who were outside 354 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 5: Shokapis Shocapy prison protesting the fact that biological men are 355 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 5: housed with these women. And she got on the mic, 356 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 5: the megaphone, whatever, and just was gave another rousing talk 357 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 5: about this. You know that she's there to raise awareness 358 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 5: about this, that this is not safe, and she says, 359 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 5: I'm tired of people acting like they don't have eyes 360 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 5: and a brain between their ears, you know, And again 361 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 5: she checks all the boxes of what, you know, maybe 362 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 5: the mainstream media, the woke left would try to say 363 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 5: these who this is who supports you know, trends in 364 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 5: women's sports and spaces, but she's saying, no, that's not 365 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 5: the case. Actually, this is unsafe. 366 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 2: Where do we stand now when it comes to the 367 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 2: controversy surrounding the Shakapie Women's Prison. Our voice is starting 368 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 2: to be heard over the concerns of what's been taking 369 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 2: place there or are they still facing an uphill battle 370 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 2: over this issue within the prison. 371 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 5: I think they're still probably facing an uphill battle. But 372 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 5: every protest like this is going to help. You know, 373 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 5: Tissheimen did direct some of her comments to Governor Walls. 374 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 5: Ultimately he's the governor of the state. But you know, 375 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 5: they passed the legislation that allows men to be housed 376 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 5: with females. And you know, I John, before I worked 377 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 5: at Alpha News several years ago, I did prison ministry 378 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 5: in at Shakapy Prison. It's so many of those women 379 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 5: opened up about being sexually abused, especially in their childhood. 380 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 5: They do not need to be sharing their space, their 381 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,719 Speaker 5: time in prison with biological men. It's you know, I 382 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 5: think most people can agree with that, and Kit Timon 383 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 5: and a lot of others are hoping that our state 384 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 5: leaders will ultimately agree with that as well. 385 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: So I also did not. 386 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 2: Have Jena Globe doing Women's prison Ministry on my Bingo 387 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 2: card today. 388 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: Can you talk a little bit about that. 389 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:53,360 Speaker 2: How did you get involved in those efforts. 390 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 5: Several years ago? I would say two thousand and nine. 391 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 5: I became certified with Prison Fellowship. I rededicated my life 392 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 5: to Christ in two thousand and seven and just really 393 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 5: fell to calling after studying the Bible for a few years, 394 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 5: to to talk to women. And I got trained and 395 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 5: certified and started going into Shakau prison and just kind 396 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 5: of spreading the gospel and telling him that you know, 397 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 5: God sells a plan for their lives, and you know 398 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 5: He loves them, and you know. It was a wonderful 399 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 5: experience and something I treasure and I value. And unfortunately 400 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 5: I did that for many years and then when COVID hit, 401 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 5: they kind of stopped all that, allowing people to come 402 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 5: in and then you know, just life and kids and 403 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,199 Speaker 5: I went back to work and that that kind of waned. 404 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 5: But it was a good chunk of my of my 405 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 5: life that I really had precious memories. And I hope 406 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 5: more people do it because these inmates really. 407 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 2: Need it well, and you know, and certainly it gives 408 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 2: you the opportunity to provide an insight and unique perspective 409 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 2: into into the issues that you guys have been covering 410 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 2: over at Alphin News and would encourage everybody to head 411 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 2: on over to alphaanews dot org to see the entirety 412 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 2: of that story and this singer who traveled for this 413 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 2: protest as well. Let's move over to another Shokape story. 414 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 2: A Shacape mother who had become a loud voice against 415 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 2: the mandates in our schools during the time of COVID 416 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 2: is still looking at her first Amendment lawsuit. Correct, what's 417 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 2: the latest regarding the appeals court to reviving this woman's 418 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 2: protesting of these mass mandates. 419 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 5: Well, they're going to hear it. They're saying that, you know, 420 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 5: it is very reasonable to suggest that her employer and 421 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 5: Shakape School superintendent sort of worked together to get her fired. 422 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 5: This mother worked as a personal banker for Hometown Bank. 423 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 5: Her name is Tarah McNeely and part of that six 424 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 5: eight hours a week two worked inside of a brain 425 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 5: branch located inside Shokaby High School. I didn't know there 426 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 5: was such a thing, but apparently there are branches inside 427 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 5: high school. She worked there six s eight hours when 428 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,959 Speaker 5: they had the mask mandate. She really rallied against it, 429 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 5: She attended meetings at school board meetings, she started a 430 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,479 Speaker 5: Facebook group called Parents Against Sports Masking, and you know, 431 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 5: just used her for a constitutional right to say her 432 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 5: thoughts on masking. Unfortunately, the school didn't like that. Hometown 433 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 5: Bank was in contact, the vice president was in contact 434 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 5: with the superintendent of Shockaby Schools who was apparently complaining 435 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 5: about McNeely, and eventually McNeely was not allowed to be 436 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 5: in Shockaby Schools because she wouldn't wear the mask. So 437 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 5: Hometown Bank basically said, because you can't fulfill your six 438 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 5: st eight hours there, we really don't have a place 439 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 5: for you anymore, and they let her go. So she 440 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 5: filed a lawsuit for a lawful termination. 441 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 2: Talking with Jena Glow from Alpha News stories available at 442 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 2: alphanus dot org and something that I know you guys 443 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 2: will continue to keep an eye on and I will 444 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 2: as well. So if I'm not mistaken, the court, the 445 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 2: case is now heading back to the district court, and 446 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 2: so we still have to to find out what a 447 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 2: jury has to say regarding the matter. 448 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 5: Correct, that is correct? Yes, McNeely, The attorney says, public officials, 449 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 5: you know, they can't retaliate against someone for expressing viewpoints 450 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 5: on matters of public or opinion, or can they coordinate 451 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 5: with you know, a private party in this case, the 452 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 5: bank to retaliate against someone because they disagree with that 453 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 5: person's position. So ultimately a jury may decide what's going 454 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 5: to happen. 455 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, Jenna, Heaven forbid the country wherever 456 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 2: to have to go through another pandemic like we did 457 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 2: with COVID. But it's a good thing that there are 458 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 2: individuals like this. It's unfortunate they have to deal with 459 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 2: these circumstances, but it's a good thing. We'll be getting 460 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 2: some answers regarding several of these issues. If we were 461 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 2: ever to have to go through something like COVID again, 462 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 2: at least we'll have further clarification about what the you know, 463 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 2: the courts have to say and the law has to 464 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 2: say over what so many of us, including this woman, 465 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 2: had to endure during that time and continue to go 466 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 2: and endure. I just again, I don't want us to 467 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,360 Speaker 2: go through another pandemic, but if we did, at least 468 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 2: we'll have some answers to some of these questions. 469 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 3: Right. 470 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 5: Absolutely, the cases like this will establish presidents which will 471 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 5: make it easier and probably save the courts more time 472 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 5: in the future should this happen again. 473 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 2: I want to drive everybody's attention to just one more 474 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 2: story as we talk with Jenna Globe from Alpha News 475 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 2: and certainly something that's been on, you know, on my mind. 476 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 2: I've talked about it a ton on the show, but 477 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 2: that is the controversies regarding fraud here in Minnesota and 478 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 2: specifically DHS. There's an exclusive up at Alpha News of 479 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 2: internal messages within DHS, specifically from the finance chief and 480 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 2: concerns over the situation as we've been talking about on 481 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 2: the show and you guys have been covering at Alpha News. 482 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,959 Speaker 5: Yeah, so you know what. Also News, we get a 483 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 5: lot of tips from state agencies, from employees who wish 484 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 5: to remain confidential, so you know, we look into a 485 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 5: lot of this and this is one that we got 486 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 5: and I started digging in. We were given screenshots of 487 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 5: text messages. But basically DHS is the state's largest agency 488 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 5: and they're responsible for distributing federal grant funds to sub 489 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 5: grantees like counties, nonprofits, tribes throughout Minnesota for various services, 490 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 5: mental health services. 491 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: What have you. 492 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 5: And we found in these text messages that the agency 493 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 5: was not getting these paid on time. Employees were not 494 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 5: submitting the invoices and time, and they had to show 495 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 5: that they could draw federal funds to pay them, and 496 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 5: so they had to use state resources to pay these 497 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 5: invoices that should have been paid by federal funds. Basically, 498 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 5: it boiled down to mismanagement within DHS. 499 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 6: Yeah. 500 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 2: I just you know, if DHS were overseen by a 501 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 2: GOP administration or a private company, it would have been 502 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 2: completely overhauled by now. And this is just another another 503 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 2: example of that. In my opinion, I encourage everybody to 504 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 2: head on over to alphanus dot org. I check out 505 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 2: this story and everything available off at alphanus dot org. 506 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 2: You got new stories going up every single day. And 507 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 2: Jenna Globe from Alpha News, good luck on your soft 508 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 2: Christmas launch. 509 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 5: I'll post some pics. How about that. I'll show you 510 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 5: what a soft launch looks like. 511 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 2: John, We've done a hard launch at our house. Let 512 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 2: me tell you the tree. The tree looks absolutely spectacular. 513 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 2: My wife really outdid herself already this year with the 514 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 2: with the Christmas tree decorations. So thank you for the 515 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 2: time this morning. It's always great uh to talk with you, Jenna. 516 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 5: Thanks for having me. 517 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: All right, I want to wrap on this. 518 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 2: I got just enough time this this in well bookend 519 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 2: the show with the Democrats say the silliest things. Minnesota lawmaker, 520 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 2: in this case as State Senator Aaron may Waid, I 521 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 2: almost feel bad for dropping this right at the end 522 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 2: of the show, but I'm going to do you anyways, 523 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 2: claims the Trump administration wants to legally make women and 524 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 2: people of color second class citizens. This was taking place 525 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 2: during a Senate subcommittee hearing last week on the federal 526 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 2: impact on Minnesotan's and economic stability. And a hat tip 527 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 2: to add Off of the Press one on X for providing. 528 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: This clip from Senator Aaron Makeway. 529 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 8: About fifty years ago roughly with many notable exceptions prior 530 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 8: to that, but about fifty years ago at the same 531 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 8: time is right around when women broadly started going to college, 532 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 8: when low income people had access to college, and when 533 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 8: people of color had access to college. Before that, college 534 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 8: was not for any of those people. It was for 535 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 8: white wealthy men to go and perseverate and dream and 536 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 8: think of ways to keep dealing money for poor people. 537 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 8: And what we are seeing today is the attempt to 538 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 8: reinstitute the racial and gender hierarchy and society to treat 539 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 8: us as second class citizens legally through the destruction of 540 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 8: higher education, just. 541 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 2: Like I demonstrated in the article from the Minnesota Reformer, 542 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 2: the conflating of issues. She's not wrong in her first 543 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 2: initial assessment of colleges becoming more welcoming and open for 544 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 2: women and people of color going back several decades, but 545 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 2: she can't help herself by throwing in the white men 546 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 2: thinking of ways to steal money for poor people, and 547 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 2: then to move forward with this ridiculous assertion that Trump 548 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 2: is trying to legally make women and people of color 549 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 2: second class and citizens. 550 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: But this is what they have to resort to. 551 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 2: It's propaganda in the absence of any cogent policy issues. 552 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: Thank you for hanging out on the show today. 553 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 2: Check out the podcast available on the iHeartRadio app if 554 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 2: you miss any portion of today's show, and we are 555 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 2: back at it tomorrow for you friends and you folks 556 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 2: starting just after six am. Have a great Wednesday and 557 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 2: I'll talk to you then back