1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: I could do it. You're just you're just walking. Is 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: that the green tea talking? 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 2: I do have another green tea air quotes No no, 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 2: uh no sweetener? Oh no, no, okay, that's kind of cool. Yeah, 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 2: you know, try to limit how much of that stuff 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 2: you put in your body. 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: That smells like asparagus. 8 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 3: All right, So you're on the on the bottle thing 9 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 3: again already. 10 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: But I read the I read the label there and 11 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: it said Robert Kelly on it. I don't know, it's weird. Wow, wow, 12 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: look at you right out of the gates. New Year 13 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: knew me what it is. Quick on the roast jokes today. 14 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 4: Okay, so I was gonna come flying back at about 15 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 4: ten minutes, doubted see nape to. 16 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: Look on his face right now, there's just filing things away. 17 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 3: Over the look of contemplation. 18 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: It's also a very confident look over there too. Like 19 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: you said, Savings boys, it's good to see you man. 20 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: And uh, I say beautiful. I I I've been longing 21 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: for winter to actually arrive here in Colorado. 22 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 2: This is like a beautiful wells that is true. I mean, 23 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: I've got sweats on the hoodie and. 24 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 4: And you're talking about how you wish this was more 25 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 4: like Seattle here, I have I have said no, I've 26 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 4: never said that, but Grants. 27 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: Were in Flannel two like it's a it's a vibe, man, 28 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: it is. Okay, yeah, all right, so kids says it is. Yeah. Anyways. Uh, 29 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: So we're excited. We have a lot to get to 30 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: over the next few hours. Obviously, we could tell you 31 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: to talk about the Broncos in the postseason. It's a 32 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: really fun sound from Peyton Manning talking about the Broncos. 33 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 4: Uh. 34 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: But the the big news today, no doubt about it. 35 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel fired. That's a quarter of the league, Dave 36 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: eight teams now looking for new head coaches. It's I 37 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: don't know, man. I. On one hand, it's not like 38 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: we are surprised by this. We were talking about Mike 39 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: McDaniel the other day. We've been talking about guys in 40 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: the high So I'm not in a position where I'd say, Okay, 41 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: Mike me daniel fired, I'm blown away. But at the 42 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,679 Speaker 1: same time, we'd also covered this as maybe a year 43 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: when there's not a lot of great coaching candidates out 44 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: there and then suddenly another one, another position comes available. 45 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: Is this like John Harbaugh or do you think there's 46 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: something else going on here? 47 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 2: I mean, I think John Harbaugh when he was fired 48 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 2: from the Ravens, I think. 49 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 5: That that sort of set everybody back in their ear 50 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 5: a bit, and those that had already made moves, I'm 51 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 5: sure will be contacting John Harbaugh, and those that are 52 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:40,839 Speaker 5: thinking about making moves. 53 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 3: May have John Harbaugh in mine. 54 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 2: I think, and I've been told that this decision in 55 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 2: Miami comes more from input to Steven Ross. 56 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 3: With respect to sort of what the senses of. 57 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,119 Speaker 2: Football people and how they view Mike McDaniel and how 58 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: they view the Miami Dolphins, and specifically Troy Aikman, who 59 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: was brought into the mix, which I think is a 60 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 2: fascinating higher because Troy and Troy was a really good player, 61 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 2: I mean, a Hall of Fame player I think does 62 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 2: an excellent job as an analyst. But I thought it 63 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 2: was interesting that he was brought in as not only 64 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 2: a consultant, but he's brought in in regard, in high 65 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 2: regard by Steven Ross, uh in terms of bouncing some 66 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: things off and talking football. And so I think that 67 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 2: played as much, if not more, to Mike McDaniel being 68 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: released than the idea that, Hey, if we fire Mike McDaniel, 69 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 2: maybe we can get in line for John Harbaugh. 70 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: Okay, is that I mean? 71 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 4: Is that you're read on as well as far as 72 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 4: I would say Horriball is one of their preferred candidates 73 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 4: on top of that, but I would say Davis is 74 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 4: correct here. And I would also say that the reputation 75 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 4: on Mike McDaniel said he's a brilliant x's and o's guy, 76 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 4: but he does not. He's too much of a player's coach, 77 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 4: and he's a pushover, and he needs somebody in that 78 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,799 Speaker 4: locker room to stand up and not let the inmates 79 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 4: run the asylum. And that has been a problem, and 80 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 4: I think that's one of the things Troyman relayed you. Troy, 81 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 4: I believe you are absolutely right. 82 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: Okay. Well, and then, of course, was it Detroit already 83 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: reaching out about having him or was it how about 84 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:45,119 Speaker 1: might be Daniel? 85 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, Cleveland's interviewing him for the head coaching job, 86 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 4: Detroit's interviewing for the OCC. Commanders will interview him for 87 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 4: the OC, Tampa will interview him for the OC. 88 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: There're none of the list here, sorry, and then there'll 89 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: be a few others out there. As far as that goes. 90 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 4: So John Harball, by the way, is not going to 91 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 4: take interviews until next week for a very pointed reason. 92 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 4: He's going to see that every job comes open before 93 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 4: he takes interviews. 94 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: Which we've talked about. Maybe a couple more potential on 95 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: the rise. And what do you think the odds are 96 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: at this time next week? We're talking about Buffalo, green Bay, 97 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: and potentially Pittsburgh as open jobs. 98 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: I think Pittsburgh, I would say, yes, I think the 99 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 2: potential is significant. 100 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: I don't think Buffalo green Bay are coming open. 101 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 4: I think fulf Floor is gonna get a pay bump 102 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 4: a green Bay, and I don't unless they just crater 103 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 4: in that game against. 104 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: Jacksonville, I don't believe Buffalo's coming open. 105 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 2: I would say of those two, my take would be 106 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 2: Buffalo would be more likely to come open than green Bay. Yeah, 107 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 2: so I don't think. I don't think either because I 108 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: can see both teams winning. I can see both green 109 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 2: Bay and Buffalo winning for sure. But I think, and 110 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: I would say this about the Steelers, I mean, Houston's 111 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 2: a better team, Houston's got a lights out defense. I 112 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 2: do not anticipate that being an easy game for Houston 113 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh. 114 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 3: I just don't. 115 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 2: They are a Dome team. They are a Dome team. 116 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 2: They're not great on offense. Uh, they play to their defense. 117 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 2: I mean, they scored quickly against the Chargers in that 118 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 2: game in Los Angeles. It's fourteen nothing and then basically 119 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 2: had to hang on the rest of the game. 120 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 4: And those were busted coverages on absolutely were they absolutely were. 121 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm kind of with you there. 122 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 4: I think Houston has the potential to go all the way. 123 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 4: I'm with you. I don't think that's necessarily a boat racing. 124 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 2: I think this is going to be I think this 125 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 2: is going to be a really exciting weekend to watch football. 126 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 3: If you don't gamble on football and you just like. 127 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 2: Good, competitive, hard fought I know a lot is at stake, 128 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 2: and so here's the efforts sort of football. 129 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 4: I think we're going to see plenty of that except 130 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 4: one Gambler. Except for the Carolina game. 131 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 2: I'm not even sure about that. I'm sure I don't. 132 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I think I feel pretty confident the Rams 133 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: will win. If you said you're gonna lay the ten 134 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 2: and a half, I'd be like, I don't know about that. 135 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: Well, I agree with you. Starts tonight got the college 136 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: football playoff. It should be a lot of fun to 137 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: watch this game. We're gonna pick that game around five 138 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: thirty though, just so we can get all our expert 139 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: picks in for that one. But how do we do 140 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: last night? I need a chance to did we do? 141 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: I don't even care about off the donut? Dave went 142 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: to it. Now, maybe I knew that, Maybe maybe I 143 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: was aware of that. 144 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 3: We'll figure that. 145 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: Give Dave a little bit of love here off the 146 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: top of the show in the driver's seat, just drank vinegar. Well, 147 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: it's equivalent to giving Dave credit on somebody. He was 148 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: the one drinking. Yeah, all right, So Vance Joseph Vance 149 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: Joseph interviewed today officially for the Ravens job. And I 150 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: don't know, Ben, you've been pretty consistent saying that you 151 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: think he likely gets the jobs, Davis saying the same thing. 152 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: Now you think there, don't think it'll be Baltimore. But 153 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: good for him for interviewing that. Yeah, yeah, that, I mean, listen, man, 154 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: if that's the job, like if you're if you're if 155 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: you're interviewing for any of these whatever you think about 156 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: the Giants Dave, you and I've talked about the Falcons 157 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: about them being in a good place as well. But 158 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: the Ravens with Lamar Jackson or you create, I mean, 159 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: that is the that's the best one. 160 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 4: If the coaching search and all these was the Club 161 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 4: Baltimore would be the VIP nice. 162 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: Yes, the champaign room, if you will. 163 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 3: Dave's familiar with them, I am. 164 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: I don't let me back there, but drinking green tea 165 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: in the champagne room. So yeah. But but but you 166 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: have a scenario here where Vance Joseph isn't necessary. And 167 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: by the way, Darren Rizzy also interviewing with the New 168 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: York Giants. Want to get to that in a second. 169 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: But there might be several guys. Well, let me start 170 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: with the Rizzy thing. 171 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 4: Not every interview that every team takes is for a 172 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 4: guy to be a head coach or even be a 173 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 4: coach with their team. In some case in New York, 174 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 4: I think the dark I think they want Harball, that's 175 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 4: their preferred candidate. I think their backup plan there would 176 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 4: be Kevin Stefanski. But if they whiff on those, I 177 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 4: think Vance Joseph is their third option, with maybe Davis 178 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 4: Webb's the OC, and so I think they want to 179 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 4: get Rizzy, who has familiar with Joe Shane, in the room, 180 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 4: to kind of talk about that and see, you know, Okay, 181 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 4: who are these guys. I don't think Rizzy's really in 182 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 4: play for a head coaching gig there. Maybe he talks 183 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 4: his way into it. Maybe maybe I'm wrong on that, 184 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 4: but it's kind of like the Davis Webb head coach 185 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 4: interview in Las Vegas. Davis web turns thirty one in 186 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 4: a company to you don't you haven't built a network up? 187 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: How are you going to hire a staff? 188 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 3: Like? 189 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 4: I think Davis Webb is absolutely a future head coach 190 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 4: in this league. I think he's a bright star with 191 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 4: a bright future ahead of him. But you're an interview 192 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 4: on for OC at that point. For Vans, I mean, 193 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 4: come on, like this is obvious. So I think some 194 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 4: of those interviews, I think it's important to contextualize that 195 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 4: that way. As far as the other thing, yeah, the 196 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 4: Broncos could be some in some I don't want to 197 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 4: say hurt, but the plan and the backup plan could 198 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 4: potentially be We've talked about Jim Letter taking over for Vance, 199 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 4: Joseph and Jim Letards didn't play for that Dallas defensive 200 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 4: coordinator job. And I'll say this, if this process drags 201 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 4: on without Vance getting hired somewhere before they secure Jim Leonard, 202 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 4: you could have a scenario where Jim letter goes, takes 203 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 4: a Dallas DC job, then all of a sudden Vance 204 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 4: gets hired for a head coaching job, and now you're 205 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 4: sitting there wondering what you're going. 206 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: To do as DC. 207 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 4: There is a I'm trying to think the best way 208 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 4: to phrase this, there is a thought out there that 209 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 4: as Vance gets a head coaching job, the Broncos would 210 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 4: get two third round compensatory picks. There is a thought 211 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 4: out there that one of those third rounders could be 212 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 4: utilized and sent to Chicago for defensive coordinator Dennis Allen. 213 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: Hmm. You know they have familiarity there with the Saints 214 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: when Sean was there. I don't know, Dave, what do 215 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: you think about that as a possibility. 216 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 2: I think that I think that when you get into 217 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 2: the NFL, maybe college too, and to a certain degree 218 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 2: even high school, but but in the NFL, for sure, 219 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 2: guys will make hires for their staff from candidates that 220 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 2: they feel really comfortable with that. They feel like this 221 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 2: guy is going to be loyal, that they don't have 222 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 2: to worry about he's gonna, you know, get in trouble. 223 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 2: He's not a guy that he's not a party guy, 224 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 2: you know. I mean, honestly, those things are considered a lot. 225 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 2: So with that in mind, I mean, Sean can hire 226 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 2: whomever he wants to hire for the staff. I like 227 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 2: the Leonard move, should Vance go? I agree with Ben. 228 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 2: I think if the thing drags out, I do think 229 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 2: Jim Leonard's going to be in play at a couple 230 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 2: of spots, one of which is Dallas, So I think 231 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 2: I think he would be If Vance left at four o'clock, 232 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 2: I think Jim Lenard would be the guy. But if 233 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 2: it plays out and Jim Leonard is gone, could it 234 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 2: be Dennis Allen? 235 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: Sure? 236 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 2: Because Sean knows him, knows what he's getting. 237 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: How do you feel about a third round pick for 238 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: Dennis Allen? 239 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 3: Do not like that at all? 240 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: Need to do? 241 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 2: I I don't like it. I don't even I mean 242 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 2: I don't even kind of like it. I dislike it immensely, immensely. 243 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 4: I give it up a third round. I hate give 244 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 4: it a draft capital of general I was. I hated 245 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 4: give it up a first and a second for Sean Payton, 246 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 4: you know, like I. 247 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 2: Hate giving up There's a big difference in giving up 248 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 2: a first and a second for a head coach with 249 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 2: a proven track record and give it up a third 250 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 2: round pick, which is. 251 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 3: For Dennis Allen. 252 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 4: Maybe you get something back in exchange for that too, 253 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 4: who knows, But there is a thought out there that's 254 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 4: the best way I'll phrase that that maybe some compensation for. 255 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: Bringing Dennis Allen in here. Well, And I don't even 256 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: hate the idea Dennis Allen. It's the giving up the 257 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: draft capital for a coordinator. That's I mean, he's under contract. 258 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: How else? No, No, I mean, and yeah, there's no way 259 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: Ben Johnson's just gonna let him walk. Of course, we 260 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: had Dennis Allen here as the DC back in what eleven. 261 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 3: I believe it was. 262 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: No, that's what he did. We did no doubt about that. 263 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: So okay, that's that's all all worth monitoring. And I 264 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: think your point is a valid one, specifically saying vest 265 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: Joseph may not be one of the first wave maybe 266 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: the second wave hires of this cycle, which would probably 267 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: put him more in line with late, which means Jim 268 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: Leonard would have a chance to be sort of scooped 269 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: up as a DC because that is a promotion. 270 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, you've got Harball and you've got Stefanski and then 271 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 4: the next tier. Vance Joseph kind of is in that 272 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 4: headlining of that next tier. I believe Vance is going 273 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 4: to be very in play in New York, Las Vegas, 274 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 4: and Arizona. Whether or not he is in Miami, here's 275 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 4: one of these other places we'll see, but I believe 276 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 4: he's definitely in play in those three plays. What's what's 277 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 4: the draw for Las Vegas for him? 278 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: Number one? Overall? 279 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 4: Pick a ton of cap space. You're not moving far. 280 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 4: You know the division. Intimately, you're going to have Tom 281 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 4: Brady and John Spytech or good dudes. 282 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: In the organization. 283 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 4: So even though you're an organization that's churned through head coaches, 284 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 4: you've had you fire five and five years. I think 285 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 4: if you're a Vance Joseph, you come into that demanding 286 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 4: a six year deal or a five year deal. Something 287 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 4: gives you guarantees you stability, and I think you've got 288 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 4: you know, you've got a number one draft pick, a 289 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 4: ton of draft capital and a ton of a ton 290 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 4: of cap space that that job is appealing in that regarde. 291 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: The fact that they've, as Ben said, earned through five 292 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 2: coaches in five years, I think is good news for 293 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 2: whomever they hire. 294 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 4: You've got leverage on a contract and you know that 295 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 4: they're I mean, they're paying out almost sixty million dollars 296 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 4: right now the guys that aren't there anymore. 297 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 3: So unless you are really bad, you're going. 298 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 2: To be around for If you sign a five year deal, 299 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 2: I don't know if you could get a six year deal, 300 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 2: but if you sign a five year deal, given what 301 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 2: they've done in the past, unless you are horrible, I 302 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 2: think you're going to get at least three and maybe four. 303 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: And that's what Kyle Shanahan did when he and John 304 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: signed on. He's got six year deals. 305 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 4: Because they burned through Harball, Tom Sula, Chip Kelly back 306 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 4: to back to back and they said, hey, we want 307 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 4: a commitment, you're gonna have to lay us out fully guaranteed, 308 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 4: which they are in the NFL six year deals parallel deals, 309 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 4: and they got that and it allowed that because those 310 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 4: first two years weren't great in San Francisco, it took 311 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 4: him to that third year to pop and get that 312 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 4: Super Bowl. 313 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: One more question on this, what do you think Broncos 314 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: fans Auscy Dave, what do you think Broncos fans will 315 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: say if Vance Joseph decides to stay in division and 316 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: go to the Raiders. Oh? 317 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 3: I think I think. 318 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 2: I think from the Broncos fans perspective, I think Vance 319 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 2: probably has as many people that really like him and 320 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,359 Speaker 2: like the job he's done, he also has some detractors, 321 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 2: I think, and that's unavoidable because when he was the 322 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 2: head coach, things didn't go very well, and fans don't 323 00:15:55,920 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 2: necessarily care like, okay, why didn't they go well? They 324 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 2: don't really care to revisit what happened, and Okay, those 325 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 2: two or three things are the primary reason that you 326 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 2: were not successful and thus got fired. 327 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 3: They just look at, hey, what was your record? 328 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 2: Okay, you sucked, you got fired, and so that's and 329 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 2: maybe that's okay, maybe that's that's a simplistic way to 330 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 2: sort of look at it. So I think I think 331 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 2: Broncos fans would not like the idea that one of 332 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 2: their coaches would become the next head coach of the Raiders. 333 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 2: But you know, I think depending on how this playoff 334 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 2: run goes for the Broncos. I think Broncos fans now 335 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 2: would focus on where this team is and where is 336 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 2: it going in the immediate future, and can we after 337 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 2: this season ends, whether it ends in the first game 338 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 2: or the second game, or goes all the way to 339 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl win or lose. I think then they 340 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 2: look to next year and say, Okay, are we building 341 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 2: the right way that we can have sustained success. We 342 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 2: went fourteen to three and then whatever happened to the playoffs. 343 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 2: Can we build on that and get more young players, 344 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 2: good players and continue to become better? 345 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 3: How about you? 346 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: What do you think Broncos fans will say. I don't 347 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: think they're saying anything. No, if Vance Joseph decided to 348 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: go to the Raiders, I don't think they're saying. 349 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 4: I don't think the Broncos fans are revolting about that necessarily. 350 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 4: I think smart people know, Hey, a good defensive coordinator 351 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 4: got on the other side of the division there and 352 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 4: might be a thorn down the line in this division. 353 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: They build that thing out, you know, I think they'll 354 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: view it as some kind of indication of how he 355 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: feels about Sean Payton, because you basically are going to 356 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: go ahead to head against Sean. 357 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 4: I think the biggest indication would be if he didn't 358 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 4: get a head coaching job and went ahead and took 359 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 4: the Dallas job, Dallas DC job. I think then fans 360 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 4: would say something about that. And I believe that if 361 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 4: he doesn't get a head coaching job, I think I'll 362 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 4: take a DC job somewhere else. We'll see. But who 363 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 4: are you talking about, fans? Do you think you take 364 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 4: a lateral? I think he would be in play for 365 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 4: the Dallas job. Why would he want that job? Why 366 00:17:58,840 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 4: wouldn't you want that job? 367 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: Because? Is he got a better defense here? 368 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 4: You've got Tala Ross, You've got blank slate to be 369 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 4: able to go do whatever you want down in Dallas, 370 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 4: and they'll pay you more. 371 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: More, But they're they're churning through DC's down there. 372 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 3: They'd have to give. 373 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, but you got a text her here 374 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 4: to say something about to pay Advance five to six 375 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 4: million a year to keep him. I think it would 376 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 4: cost you more than that to keep Vance Joseph as 377 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 4: a DC. More than six Yeah, I think the paid 378 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 4: for I think you're in the eight million dollar range 379 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 4: to keep Advanced Joseph as a defensive quarter. 380 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: Oh well that he is. As Dave often says, it's 381 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: not our money, so we if we get to play 382 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: with the Walton Pinners money, that's it. 383 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 4: I think he's getting a job and I don't think 384 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 4: he'll be back. Let me let me just say that 385 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 4: I do. Listen, going down the rabbit hole of hypotheticals, and. 386 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: You look at that. We're on the other side of 387 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: this with Vance because even the idea of bringing back 388 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: Vance win is this is in DC with Sean. Remember 389 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 1: that fans were kind of like they. 390 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 4: Were against it pointer the seventy point game you had, 391 00:18:58,280 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 4: I mean, the town was ready to burn that. This 392 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 4: said he was going to burn Denver down, trying to 393 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 4: run him out. 394 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 3: Hey, listen, VIC was very close coming back. 395 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, just he just couldn't quite wrap his head around 396 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 2: you know what, and how the fans would react. 397 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 3: And I get that, I mean for. 398 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: Sure, Yeah, one hundred percent and credits of VJ for saying, 399 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: you know what, I can do this the world for VJ. 400 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 4: I mean that locker room was basically is wildly I 401 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 4: mean wildly different. Almost no one was there from Van 402 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 4: Simmons was still here, right but almost nobody was versus 403 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 4: vic where. 404 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 1: It was I mean most basically his guys. Yeah, no 405 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,479 Speaker 1: doubt about it. All Right, we're off rolling here on 406 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: a Thursday, very excited to be here with you. We 407 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 1: come back Peyton Manning reliving the twenty twelve free agency experience. 408 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts on some of his 409 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 1: thoughts on Jim Harball. We'll get to that next. By 410 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 1: the way, the Ravens just completed their interview with Davis 411 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: Webb for the head coaching position, So Davi's Webb was 412 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: at free Yeah. But again, like I say, I think 413 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: we all understand what you're saying. Like there isn't a 414 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: person out there saying like, well, hey, Davis Webb, let's 415 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: let's talk about his candidacy for the Ravens head coaching job. 416 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: It's it's not to say it tells you how serious 417 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: they are about vance. You know, I do think that too. 418 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: But before we hear the sound here on Peyton Maine 419 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 1: talking about Jim Harbaugh, I'd say it's good to get 420 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: background on guys, because you know what, in a couple 421 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: of years, when maybe Davis Webb has interviewed as an 422 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: office or has been an offensive coordinator in league. That'll 423 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: help me, like Joseph got the job here to begin with. 424 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: That's what literally was gonna you just you just stole 425 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: my thunder. 426 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 4: That's what I been looking at, these clouds and your 427 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 4: beautiful day and might thunder out there any times. 428 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: Classic bin just stealing my point. Anyways, nice text here 429 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: on the Kwait Comma Spirit Heal text line. So at 430 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: the top of the arm in a grocery store, I 431 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: got my iHeart app on my phone, listening to catch 432 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: the beginning of the show, and a guy in line says, 433 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: did you listen to that show yesterday? We laughed for 434 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 1: a good moment about it. 435 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 2: Oh, you mean back to back grocery shoppers, big fans 436 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 2: of KOI Sports. 437 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: I didn't text this in. 438 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 3: That's awesome. 439 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: That is awesome. That's always a cool note to get. Yeah, 440 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: and yeah, the five o'clock hour, in case you missed 441 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: it yesterday, it got interesting. 442 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 3: Was that the way you hold me in a certain position? 443 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 2: Oh that one I forgot. I forgot that one I thought, 444 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 2: Oh I didn't I Oh, Rick, I had moved on, 445 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 2: sweet sweet Rick past the show where I'm quite certain 446 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 2: every civil rights leader in Denver was fixing to come 447 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 2: pick it my heart. 448 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 3: I thought we were talking about that one. 449 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 1: Not that long. No, this was the SalCo lessons for 450 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: What's Worth. That's Rick talking about you teach him salsa. 451 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: And I asked him if he's willing to follow, because 452 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna lead. Yeah. Yeah, And then he said this. 453 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: Oh wait, hold on, I thought, Stockton to Malone, No, 454 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: that's on me. I should this? Are you going to 455 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: like hold me in a certain position? 456 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 4: God, send me that audio I'm calling I'm crank callin 457 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 4: Rick's show with that. 458 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: Send me that audio. The greatest Rick is the best 459 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: we had. Our boss text again saying that we're not 460 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: allowed to do handstands in the studio. 461 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 3: Well, she doesn't really understand what fun is. 462 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 2: I think when people become bosses, they have to boss. 463 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: I couldn't disagree with you more. I think O. I 464 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: think our boss is very smart. I think she also. 465 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: I think she does exactly the definition of fun for her. 466 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 3: Vision for I knew I knew her. 467 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 2: I'm just saying I knew her before she was the boss. 468 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: No, listen, I'm just saying. It's it's like my whole 469 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 1: like Walmart, things like wal can't to. 470 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 3: Act that much to your own jokes. It's just not accepting. 471 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: I'm still laughing at Rick. Actually I'm tearing up. Okay, 472 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: So yesterday we had a little bit of fun talking 473 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: about Dan Reeves and the relationship with John Elway. I 474 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: thought this was an interesting moment. As Peyton Manning was 475 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: on a podcast recently, he had some really cool things 476 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: to say about Bonus and the Broncos. We'll get to 477 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: that here in a second, but this was him talking 478 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 1: about twenty twenty twelve, sorry, twenty twelve, Yes, and when 479 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 1: he was a free agent, and of course we all 480 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: know about John Elway going down to Duke and wooing 481 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: him to come to the Broncos, but also Jim Harbaugh, 482 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: who of course is in the postseason now with the Chargers. 483 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 1: And here's what he had to say about that experience 484 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 1: with Jim. 485 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 6: Back in twenty twelve. That was a strange time for me. 486 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 6: I was, you know, I still was kind of in 487 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 6: shock that I actually was a free agent. But the 488 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 6: forty nine Ers were one of the first teams that 489 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 6: I really kind of worked out for. 490 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 3: They came to to. 491 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 6: North Carolina, I was a duke and Harball and Greg 492 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 6: Roman came down there and very very like c i A, 493 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 6: they flew into another town in North Carolina because they 494 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 6: didn't want there, you know, to get tracked by Schefter 495 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 6: or Mort and Harve Ball had a hoodie on Belichick 496 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 6: style at the workout in case, you know, Mort was 497 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 6: in the trees, and uh uh but he was great, 498 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 6: and I think he knew that I was going through 499 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 6: a strange time and and uh but you know at 500 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 6: the time, look, his San Francisco teams were awesome, they 501 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 6: were tough. I was looking for a team that was 502 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 6: close to to kind of getting there that that that 503 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 6: you know, it was not a rebuild, if you will. 504 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 3: So uh he was great. 505 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 6: He was great, and uh, like I said, no surprise 506 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 6: he's had the success he's had as an NFL coach, 507 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 6: and certainly you know what he did in Michigan. 508 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: So let me ask you Dave your recollection of that 509 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: around twenty twelve. I don't think we've ever talked about 510 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: that experience because at the time, you're coming off the 511 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 1: twenty eleven season when Tim Tebow and all of that, 512 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: and then you have John Elway flying all the way 513 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: out to North Carolina to try to woop Peyton Manning. 514 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 1: What was your recollection or a member of that. 515 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 3: You mean the fact that that John flew out there. 516 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, did you feel at the time, like pretty confident 517 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 1: that this could get done? Did you like, oh, okay. 518 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 3: I didn't. I mean, I'm just being honest about it. 519 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't know. 520 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 2: When when I heard that Denver was one of the 521 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 2: I think it was three teams involved, I was like, really, wow, 522 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 2: So no, I didn't. I mean I knew that somebody 523 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 2: was going to be playing quarterback other than Tim. 524 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 1: Okay for the Broncos. You didn't think John would? I mean, 525 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: he was pretty tepid in his response in the postgame 526 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: press conference. 527 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 3: That was not going to happen in twenty twelve. 528 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: I will. 529 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 4: I'll say, first of all, Rip Mort one of my mentors, 530 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 4: Chris Wards. It was a great, great, great guy. It 531 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 4: was one of the people who mentored me. The Peyton 532 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 4: Manning to Denver story that's before I lived out here. 533 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 4: That was one of the stories that broke me, that 534 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 4: turned me into somebody that people paid attention to on Twitter. 535 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 4: I was down in Tampa at the time and Mort 536 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 4: had me drive up. Mort wasn't hiding in the trees. 537 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 4: But he had me drive up and was having me 538 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 4: taught me how to sit there at the airport and 539 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 4: see who was coming in at these at these airports 540 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 4: or whatever. Well some of them were using a different airport, 541 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 4: so he had to split up and crowdsource what was 542 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 4: going on and trade notes on that. And so then, yeah, 543 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 4: that story I had part of that story, id't have 544 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 4: all of it, but that story got me noticed. One 545 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 4: of the first things that got me noticed on Twitter 546 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 4: was projecting that that Peyton Manning was either going to 547 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 4: wind up in San Francisco, Tennessee or the Denver Broncos. 548 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: That's interesting. So when I guess when it happened, well, 549 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: what was your first reaction to that news? Is just like, 550 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 1: holy cow, John John did it's but well, there was 551 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: a obviously concern because all the rumors about his next 552 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: surgery and couldn't throw the ball five yards and those 553 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: kinds of things. What was your reaction. 554 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 2: Even though the next surgery obviously was real and the 555 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 2: fact that he couldn't throw a ball that was real, 556 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 2: and it was you know, he was nowhere near being 557 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 2: ready to play. When what he and the Broncos agreed 558 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 2: to the deal. I just remember I was driving on 559 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 2: I twenty five when it was announced, and I remember thinking, 560 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 2: Holy whatever, I mean, Peyton friggin Manning coming here. I mean, 561 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 2: I was very, very excited about it because I just 562 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 2: I think, I think it's sort of like fans going 563 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 2: to an NFL game, right if the player is out 564 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 2: there and you can't see his face and you can't 565 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 2: see the knee wrapped or the shoulder harnessed down, or 566 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 2: the ribs, the injection of the ribs, you can't see 567 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 2: any of that. You see that player, you know his number. 568 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 2: When you see him out there, you assume that there's 569 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 2: a standard that you are accustomed to that he is 570 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 2: going to be able to achieve in terms of performance. 571 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 2: And so I just felt like, if Peyton Manning has 572 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 2: agreed to a deal with the Broncos, I'm just going 573 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 2: to bet that Peyton Manning physically is going to be 574 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 2: good enough that he's going to be able to play 575 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 2: close to the standards that. 576 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 3: He is accustomed to. 577 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 2: He wasn't the same he wasn't the same quarterback, but 578 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 2: he was close enough when with the leadership thing, and 579 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 2: so yeah, I was excited, really excited about the news. 580 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: It was pretty wild. You know, we're now in kind 581 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: of a different era of Broncos football. They have the 582 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: one seed and he talks about that. We'll get to 583 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: the sound of him talking about the Broncos running the 584 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: one set again because the last time they did it, 585 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: he was here. But it's just a remarkable thing to 586 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: think back to, just that anticipation of what it could 587 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: be for the next whatever many years. You Adam, and 588 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: you knew it wasn't going to be a long burn, right, 589 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: he was towards the tail of his career. But whatever 590 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: it was, it was, it was going to be amazing. 591 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: And that was coming off the table year, which was 592 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: already its own level of fun and interesting, right. 593 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, both fun and interesting. Now I thought it 594 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 2: was fun and interesting. It was I really enjoy getting 595 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 2: to know Tim. Yeah, as a young guy. I mean, 596 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 2: he you know, I just I enjoyed that part. But 597 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 2: I also knew that at the end of twenty eleven, 598 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 2: that last game in New England, that that was the 599 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 2: proverbial end of the road. 600 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: You knew that, yes, like unequivocally, because there's a lot 601 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: of people, there's a lot of fans when I remember it. 602 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: By that time is there were a lot of fans 603 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: that were not ready to let go of Tim. 604 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 2: T It was a popular, very popular player. There were 605 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 2: fans that actually thought and forwarded their ideas that Peyton 606 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 2: should come here and then be a mentor for Tim. 607 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: I remember that. 608 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 2: And then when Peyton has decided, you know he's going 609 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 2: to retire, that was like you never say never. That 610 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 2: was never, ever, ever, ever, ever going to happen. Dayton 611 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 2: would not have come here if that was part of 612 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 2: the deal. My my enduring memory of Tim Tebow is forever. 613 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 2: I was sitting there having drinks with a former NFLI 614 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 2: coach and he said, he turned to me and he said, 615 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 2: never was going to win this football game. 616 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: And I was like, you are insane. That luck is 617 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: rut out. There is no way. 618 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 4: In the very next play he had the overtime past 619 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 4: the Jamarius White blanket. 620 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 2: All right, we were talking about the NFL playoffs. The 621 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 2: Rams are a ten and a half point favorite on 622 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 2: the road against Carolina. If if that number stays the same, 623 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 2: it would represent the largest road favorite in NFL playoff history. 624 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 2: Stop stop, I'm not looking atop googling. Stop googling. I'm 625 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 2: trying to get you not to cheat on a test, 626 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 2: young man. You put your Everhart two down second row 627 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 2: and focus on me. 628 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: I just to know what he's talking about, Ben, not 629 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: me that pulling back. 630 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 2: If that number, if that number remains the same, they 631 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 2: will they will be the largest road favorite in NFL 632 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 2: playoff history. The other three games that are the largest 633 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 2: road favorites in NFL playoff history, think about this, we'll 634 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 2: see if you remember, and they're fairly Yeah. 635 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: Well ones recent St Seahawks has to be in that. 636 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 2: Saint Seahawks in two thousand and ten, Saints were I 637 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 2: believe a nine and a half point favorite. 638 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 3: Seahawks won the game. 639 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: Outright game yep? 640 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 6: Ye? 641 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 3: Who are the other two? 642 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: All right? So that was gonna be easy one. 643 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 4: Now, now work my way backwards because you figured to 644 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 4: be modern because of the seventh six? 645 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 3: That's right? 646 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: Was it the was it the Raiders year? Is that one? 647 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 3: Nobody a. 648 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 2: Principle in that game is now associated with the Raiders? 649 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 4: So Tom Brady, Yeah, it would be oh Man, New 650 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 4: England against who No, No No. 651 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 2: On the road was a nine and a half point 652 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 2: favorite against the Washington I think they were the Commanders. 653 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: I think there was a football team at that point. 654 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 3: And they won by eight. 655 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 2: And then which was the last of the three prior 656 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 2: to this year, the three games in NFL playoff history 657 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 2: that the road team was the highest favorite. We've already 658 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 2: got Tampa on the road against Washington. We've got New 659 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 2: Orleans on the road in Seattle. Tampa won, New Orleans lost. 660 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 2: And there's another one that it's pretty recent. 661 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 4: You're saying, I mean range right, that's correct. 662 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: I think I'm I think I'm on the right path here. 663 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 3: It was used to being correct. 664 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: Mm hmm, that might be a little bit. Is n 665 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: FC or a FC. It's a f C. 666 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 2: You get one more, you get one more question, one 667 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 2: more question. Yeah, this is good. 668 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: It's good. It's exercise. 669 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 3: I'll help you even further a. 670 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: F C West. This is uh this wait, they were 671 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: the favorite. 672 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 4: Team, was the favorite the Colts against Peyton and Colts against. 673 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 2: The highest road team favorites in playoff history in the NFL. 674 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,719 Speaker 1: It wasn't last year with the Chargers and Texans, right, 675 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, we're talking this is. 676 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 2: I'm the Texans were favored and they were Okay, yeah, 677 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 2: this is from this is uh, you want another hint? 678 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: Lack of air man good god the Fleet game. 679 00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 2: No, okay, it was like lack of because that was 680 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 2: the another hint. 681 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 3: I can't breathe very well. 682 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 1: Up period altitude. Yeah, I got I got that. I 683 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: actually got that. I'm just thinking so. 684 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 4: That that would have been Who would have been on 685 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 4: the road here in that era was. 686 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: The Steelers, The Steelers at the Broncos. 687 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:24,240 Speaker 3: That is correct. 688 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 2: Wow, wow, Okay, Steelers were a seven and a half 689 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 2: point road favorite in Denver. 690 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 1: I didn't know it was that big. I knew they 691 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 1: were a favorite. 692 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 2: I know the market just talking about de Bow and 693 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,439 Speaker 2: we're just talking about that point that Denver's football first 694 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 2: nap of overtime here tied at twenty three e line 695 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 2: of scrimmage. The Bronco twenty shotgun for Tim Tebow shirt 696 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 2: motion is that he royal Tim playfakes in the pocket, 697 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 2: sets throws past pop to Mary's Thomas. 698 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. The forty five mid peel here we go. 699 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 2: Forty thirty five foot race, twenty fifteen ten touchdown dead 700 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 2: bullets over gets. 701 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: Over a dead. 702 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 2: Brian Grisi's still chuckling all across the end zone. Of 703 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 2: the south the south end zone in discold line. 704 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:10,879 Speaker 1: Yeah. 705 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 3: Wow, everybody was in disbelief on that was seven and 706 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:14,399 Speaker 3: a half. 707 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, seven and a. 708 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 4: Half point favorite Benjamin Franklin to somebody who didn't need it, 709 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 4: what do you think? 710 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 1: And we don't know who the Broncos are obviously playing yet, 711 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: but let's just say biggest road favorite would probably be 712 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: the Bills. If the Bills, as a sixth seed, win 713 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: this week against Jacksonville and they're coming to Denver, let's 714 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: just say the Chargers lose, right because they're the seven. 715 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: What line do you think that would be? 716 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 2: I think I think it would depend, and it would 717 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 2: depend for whichever team comes here on how they looked 718 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 2: in the first game. So if if if Houston like 719 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 2: dominates Pittsburgh and the defense is great, then maybe Houston 720 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 2: is a slight favorite. I don't think any of the 721 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 2: teams would be favored by more than two really, ok, 722 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 2: maybe two and a half. If the Chargers come here, 723 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 2: depend now they'll say, well, they just beat New England 724 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 2: at Foxborough. Maybe I still think Denver would be a 725 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 2: small favorite against the Chargers. 726 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 1: I think they'd be favored against the Steelers Buffalo. 727 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 2: I think they definitely be favored against the Steelers Buffalo 728 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,320 Speaker 2: because of Josh Allen. And again, if they go to 729 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 2: Jacksonville and beat the three seed and beat them thirty 730 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 2: four to thirteen, maybe maybe Buffalo's a two point favorite. 731 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 2: But it's gonna be no matter who comes here, it's 732 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 2: going to be close to a pick game.