1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Broncos Country. Tonight's coming up here at the top of 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: the hour. 3 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 2: Ron We've got na We've got a texture from the 4 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 2: seven one to nine two three two. 5 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 3: Wattle isn't better. It was the quarterback. Did you guys know? 6 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: The two is seventeen game average season for his careers, 7 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 2: better than bon Nicks. Wattle is basically mimes. I'm surprised 8 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: Sean Payton signed off in the trade. 9 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 3: I I I'll. 10 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 2: Go first in that, and respectfully, seven one to nine 11 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: I completely disagree. I think Wattle is a big time 12 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: proven receiver. And again I've said he's one of the 13 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: you know, he's one of the eight to ten probably 14 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 2: eight handful of guys, two handfuls of guys that are 15 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:46,639 Speaker 2: just faster or anybody you have. 16 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 3: He's the guy and catch a slant and go eighty yards. 17 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 2: Now, if the point you're making is Marvin Mims has 18 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: been underutilized, I could tend to get with that. I 19 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: still haven't been able to quite figure out, you know, 20 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: what's going on. If there's just a lack of confidence 21 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: or just the lack of trust. 22 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 3: I don't know, and I'm not going to act like 23 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 3: I do, but. 24 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: Waddle to me is a big time player, and I'm 25 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: I'm glad they made the trade. 26 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, Waddle's been hard to argue with his production. He's 27 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 4: had twenty six touchdowns over five thousand yards, receiving three 28 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 4: hundred and seventy three catches in seventy eight career games. Obviously, 29 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 4: Marvin Mims hasn't been able to match that kind of 30 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 4: production and does that because he's not getting the opportunity. No, 31 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 4: I think I think his skill set is different. You 32 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 4: mentioned they were you know, a similar speed right right. 33 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 4: But to me, Marvin, for whatever reason, has lacked the 34 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 4: precision that this offense requires. And I think that's what's 35 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 4: kept him off the field is you know, them not 36 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 4: feeling comfortable with the way he runs his routes and 37 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 4: the spots that he's going to be And I think 38 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:57,559 Speaker 4: I don't know that right. 39 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:58,639 Speaker 1: Because we're not in those meetings. 40 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 4: We don't see how practice goes, we don't see how 41 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 4: they're taught. But Marvin doesn't seem to me like a 42 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 4: super precise route runner. 43 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: And you know, Ben Denucci was just talking about the 44 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,119 Speaker 1: complexity of the offense. The mouthful. 45 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 4: Chanpaynon is very particular about where he wants he wants 46 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 4: guys to end up. There's spacing involved in every play. 47 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 4: There's guys that are in particular spots for a reason. 48 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 4: It all fees off everyone else, right And to give 49 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 4: the coach the confidence that you're going to be in 50 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 4: the right spot, they're going to do the right thing 51 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 4: and be where he wants you to be, you got 52 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 4: to do it all week long. And I don't know 53 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 4: if Marvin is doing it all week long. He's making 54 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 4: plays on Sunday. Marvin Mims is one of the bigger 55 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 4: playmakers on this team. He's proven that when he gets 56 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 4: his opportunity. But the play in play out sort of 57 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 4: route runner that I think Jalen Waddle is, I don't 58 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 4: know if Marvin has developed that yet. 59 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 5: So let me ask you, guys, because it was stemming 60 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 5: off of the question I posed right before, which to 61 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 5: break is what separates Jalen Wattle from say Marvin Mims. 62 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: I mean, there's. 63 00:02:55,520 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 5: Similar stature, similar speed. Why is Jalen Wattle taking six overall? 64 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 5: And again, we watched Jalen wat to play, so I 65 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 5: know why he was taking sixth overall? But what separates 66 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 5: those two guys, especially at the pro. 67 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: Level, Well, Mims again, I think it's curious that that 68 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 2: would be the word I would use, and everything Nate 69 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 2: said could be true. I've not yet been able to 70 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 2: figure it out, and nobody has told me, and I 71 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 2: really haven't asked that much. I've asked a couple of people, 72 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 2: but you know, they just Marvin Mims, for whatever the 73 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 2: reason or reasons, has not been really incorporated a lot. 74 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:33,399 Speaker 3: In the offense. 75 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: And I think he's such a dynamic return guy that 76 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: maybe they're reticent to use him a lot of offense 77 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 2: because if you get him nicked, then there goes your 78 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 2: return game as well. I don't know. I think the offense. 79 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: This is gonna sound funny. I think I think the 80 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 2: offense can be better, and I think it has to 81 00:03:58,440 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 2: be better. 82 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 3: In terms of. 83 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: Finding ways, creative ways to get their playmakers into space. 84 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 2: And I think with a guy like Jalen Wattle, it's 85 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: going to be imperative that that happened. 86 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 5: Some more screen games, yeah, I don't know about. 87 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 3: Just don't know about more screens. But I mean, if 88 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 3: you want to see, I've. 89 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 2: Gone back over a long long period of time looking 90 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 2: I've looked at a lot of Dolphin stuff, looking at 91 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: the running game. But you can't help but notice the 92 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 2: passing game in Jalen Wattle. And you know, when you 93 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 2: think about it, with that that seventy to twenty game 94 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 2: and Denver was overmatched and it was one thousand degrees 95 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: and there are plenty of reasons that that happened. 96 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 3: But Jalen Wattle caught a it was either kind. 97 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: Of a deeper slant or maybe a basic route in 98 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 2: the middle of the field and then just outran everybody 99 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 2: on the back end the next sixty yards. So they 100 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: did a good job in that stretch of time. And 101 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 2: part of it was because of the ability of the 102 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 2: run game to be so dynamic that they could get 103 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 2: you and and part of it was because of the 104 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 2: speed on the outside and you could they could dictate 105 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 2: really some of the coverages the teams were going to 106 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,799 Speaker 2: be in. Some of the motion got people out of position, 107 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 2: and so there's there's things I think the Broncos can do. 108 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: And it wasn't like they were they were horrible offensively 109 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 2: last year. They weren't, but I think they have to 110 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 2: be better at creating opportunities and especially opportunities for a. 111 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 3: Guy like Waddle. 112 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, and operationally, what Ben Dnucci was talking about maybe, 113 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 4: you know, consolidating some of the language to make it 114 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 4: easier and quicker to get to the line of scrimmage, 115 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 4: to be able to utilize pre snap motion, to be 116 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 4: able to understand what the defense is doing, get them 117 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 4: to show their hand a little bit, work your snap count, 118 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 4: you know, manipulate the defense a little bit, and have 119 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 4: your have some time to. 120 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: Do it would go a long way. And being able 121 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: to do what Dave is saying well. 122 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 5: And then again, this isn't to say that Marvin Mims 123 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 5: doesn't have a role in all of this. I don't 124 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 5: know if you heard his comment the other night on 125 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 5: Altitude with Vick Lombardi, but he was on Altitude TV. 126 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 5: They had him on this part of the pregame and 127 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 5: he was asked about the Jalen Wattle trade. And it 128 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 5: wasn't a hey, I'm excited about this response. In fact, 129 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 5: he said it really surprised me just bringing in a 130 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 5: guy like that, Marvin Mims going into the final year 131 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 5: of his rookie contract, certainly with an eye on hoping 132 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 5: to get a pretty decent payday, whether it's here with 133 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 5: the Broncos or somewhere else, and not be just a 134 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 5: return guy, not just be a gadget guy. 135 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: Now, he went on to say, hey, I'm willing to 136 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: do whatever. 137 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 5: I'll line up as a running back, as a returner, 138 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 5: as a receiver, any way i can affect the game 139 00:06:57,880 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 5: and help the team. 140 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: I'm willing to do it. That's the right thing to say. 141 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 5: But the very first part saying, I was really surprised 142 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 5: by it that they brought in this guy, as though 143 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 5: I feel like I could do a lot of the 144 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 5: things that he does, just haven't given those opportunities. 145 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, i'd feel Listen, if I'm Marvin Memes, i'd feel 146 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 2: the same way. Yeah, because that's how that's how players think. 147 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 2: I mean, you you want them to think that way. 148 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 2: If they don't think that way, if they're just cool 149 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 2: with like, oh okay, great, then then you probably get 150 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 2: the wrong probably get the wrong mixture in that wide receiver. 151 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: It doesn't bother you. 152 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 2: That, you know, absolutely, I think he's being honest, and 153 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 2: I think he really feels that way, And you know what, 154 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 2: maybe that's true. Maybe that's true. I think I would 155 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 2: feel the same way. I mean, if you if you 156 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 2: brought in I mean, I was almost traded from the 157 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 2: Browns to the Niners prior to the draft that the 158 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 2: Niners took Dwight Clark. 159 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 3: Dwight Clark was a was a hell of a receiver. 160 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 2: No doubt, hell of a receipt pretty wild, Yeah, that, 161 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 2: I mean that would have gosh, I mean, who knows 162 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: how that would have turned out. 163 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 164 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 2: But and and Dwight I got to know him a 165 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 2: little bit and really good guy. And I can you know, 166 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 2: I considered him a friend. He's gone way too early. 167 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 2: But if you, I mean, if you ask me, like, hey, 168 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: what do you think, what do you think you could do? 169 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 3: It's compared to Dwight. 170 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 2: I know, I know what Dwight's gonna say, and you 171 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 2: already know what I'm gonna say. So yeah, that that 172 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 2: those are the kind of guys you want. 173 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 1: Absolutely Marvin Mims. 174 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 4: He's the same height, he's the same speed, and the 175 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 4: Broncos have him on the team and every time they 176 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 4: throw him the ball, he catches it. He's made big plays, yes, 177 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 4: and so of course in his mind it's like, Okay, 178 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 4: you're bringing in the same guy as me, but you're not, 179 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 4: You're not using me that way. Of course, he's of 180 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 4: course he's upset by that you think Troy Franklin, Pat Bryant, 181 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 4: Marvin Mims, little Jordan Humphrier about Jayla Wanll coming to town. 182 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 4: Absolutely not because one of those guys is getting pushed 183 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 4: to the back on. 184 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: But wouldn't it open things upon. 185 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 4: Open it up for one guy basically to have a 186 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 4: bigger role because last year, going into you know, training camp, 187 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 4: it was who's going to be the number two? 188 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: Courtless? Soon is the one? 189 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 4: Number two is wide open right now and now the 190 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 4: number one and the number two are locked up, So 191 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 4: who's the number three? And really the number four doesn't 192 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 4: catch a lot of passes. 193 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 2: And by the way, I misspoke Waddle, it must have 194 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 2: been another receiver who caught the basic round and maybe 195 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 2: it was Tyreek Hill Wattle. That was the first game 196 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 2: of his career that he missed. Oh okay against the Broncos. 197 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 2: So a texture texta was right. But the point of 198 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: it being the guy that can do a lot with 199 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 2: the ball. 200 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, And so in a in a perfect world, this 201 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 4: lights of fire under Marvin Mims and he becomes the 202 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 4: version of himself that everyone wants him to see or 203 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 4: wants him to be. But that does take the coaching 204 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 4: staff putting putting him in that position and getting him involved, 205 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 4: and that a lot of times, like you know during 206 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 4: the course of the week, who's going to be heavily 207 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 4: involved this week based on the plays you put in 208 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 4: the way you practice. Coaches script every practice and so 209 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 4: you get to script ahead of time. You know what 210 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 4: the plays are, what the coverage is, and the play. 211 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 4: You basically know who's catching every ball on every play 212 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 4: in practice. So they have a plan for the game. 213 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 4: Now the game starts. It's like everyone has a plan 214 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 4: until they get punched in the mouth. Things happened during 215 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 4: the course of a game that he did plan for. 216 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 4: But there's a reason why Troy Frankly had over one 217 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 4: hundred targets this year. It's because every week of practice 218 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 4: he was getting that. 219 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 2: So I would ask, and I don't know, what is 220 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 2: Marvin's average yardage per catch like last year or in 221 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 2: his career as opposed to waddles average yards per catch? 222 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 5: All right, so career for Marvin Mims's twelve point three. Okay, 223 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 5: it's gone down every year. He was seventeen point one 224 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 5: his first year, his rookie year, twelve point nine, twenty 225 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 5: twenty four, and eight point seven last year, all those screens. 226 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 4: Eight point seven eight point seven. The guy who runs 227 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 4: the four to three nine. 228 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: Or four three eight. Yeah. 229 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 4: See, that's that's the schematic failure. 230 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: I agree. 231 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 5: Jaylen Wattle is thirteen point five over the course of 232 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 5: his career fourteen point two last year, twelve point eight, 233 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 5: fourteen point nine. 234 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 3: I gotta be honest about that. 235 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 2: That's lower than I than I thought it would be, 236 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 2: for sure, lower than I thought it would be. 237 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: Well, you wonder, I wonder what Tyreek Hills was. That's 238 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: sort of his And he was more like. 239 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 3: I think it's higher than thirteen point nine. Don't you 240 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 3: think it is? Two? 241 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean we think so, right, I think it's okay. 242 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 5: I well, recourse of career. No, his career is thirteen 243 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 5: point nine. That's wild. 244 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: So he he. 245 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 5: Was twelve point six last year, eleven point eight, fifteen 246 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 5: point one in twenty twenty three when they were a 247 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 5: Juggernaut and he had almost eighteen hundred dollars. 248 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 2: That goes to show you that all of these guys 249 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 2: are being utilized, you know, sort of in similar in 250 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 2: a similar way. And I must say it speaks to 251 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 2: the texture's point about basically Mims's Wattle if he just 252 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 2: had a if he had a different quarterback throwing to him. 253 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 2: I still I still think Wattle, and I think wattles 254 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 2: a more consistent h catcher, But I can't prove it. 255 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 2: It's just what my eyes tell me. 256 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I. 257 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 2: Think I think the texture makes I mean, it's worth it. 258 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 2: It's a debatable point, and if you're Marvin Mims, I 259 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 2: absolutely would feel the same way Marvin feels yeah for sure. 260 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 5: All Right, five six, six nine zero or Kawa kama 261 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 5: spert health text line for me at the bottom of 262 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 5: the hour, I want to guys ask you guys a 263 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 5: little bit about the Nuggets, who are kicking off their 264 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 5: final ten games over the stretch. 265 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: Now. 266 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 5: I said yesterday that really the biggest thing I want 267 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 5: to see is is them all playing together, playing healthy. 268 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 5: But it sounds like there's still gonna be a minute's 269 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 5: limitation for Peyton Watson and even Aeron Gordon. 270 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: Peyton Watson not playing tonight. 271 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 5: Imagine there's gonna be some rest spots for Aaron Gordon 272 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 5: as well as you get geared up for. Is there 273 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 5: anything I'll start with you, Nate, is there anything specific 274 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 5: you need to see in this final ten games. 275 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: You know, I harkened back to when David. 276 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 5: I were doing the show before they won the championship 277 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 5: and I was panicking in the final ten games, you 278 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 5: don't say, well, yeah you sorry, Well because the final week, 279 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 5: week and a half of games, they were playing terrible 280 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 5: and they were they're resting guys because they had sort 281 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 5: of sewn up what they were prior to that. 282 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 4: Though after the All Star break they were on a tear. 283 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 4: They were doing really well. 284 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 5: Sure, but then they had sort of locked in what 285 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 5: they were and they just started resting guys. 286 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: A little different position now though, Yeah. 287 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 5: No, So right now they're in the midst of the 288 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 5: four seed because Houston lost last night. 289 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's the four seed. 290 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 5: They're gonna kind of battle back and forth between the 291 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 5: three and the six. At this point, I don't think 292 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 5: they're gonna fall far enough to be a play in. 293 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: And that would be that would be a tragedy, that's 294 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: a devastation, that's like, that's like no man's land there. 295 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 5: You just don't want to be there. But I think 296 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 5: they'll be anywhere between the three and six. So regardless 297 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 5: of seeding, what do you want. 298 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 4: To see of course, you wanted these guys to be 299 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 4: healthy going into the playoffs. And and they've been telling themselves, 300 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 4: just like the Avs all year long, we just got 301 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 4: to make it to the playoffs. 302 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: We just got to make to the playoffs. 303 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 4: But that is a dangerous, dangerous game to play because 304 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 4: the chemistry. You've been trying out so many different lineups, 305 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 4: and you've been playing so many different guys. You've got 306 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 4: your core pretty much minus Michael Porter Jr. That were 307 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 4: here when you won the championship. These guys have the 308 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 4: muscle memory of that. But but I want to see 309 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 4: him play together before the playoffs start to see that. 310 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 4: You know, you can't just wait up here we go 311 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 4: and now we got to flip the switch, I know, 312 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 4: but on Sunday, but we got to stack a few 313 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 4: more of those, you know. And Peyton Watson already not 314 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,359 Speaker 4: playing again, and and uh, agent. 315 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 2: But I think he's not playing just to just making yeah, 316 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 2: just to rest him a little bit. 317 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 3: I think, yeah, yeah, that's good. 318 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 4: He's not and he hasn't suffered a setback or any 319 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 4: other word. So yeah, I'd like to see him play 320 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 4: a little bit more together prior to the playoffs. Me personally, 321 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 4: and also, you know, David Adaman, it is kind of 322 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 4: the wildcard here right right, you know, like he's never 323 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 4: done this before. 324 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I brought that. 325 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 5: Up yesterday with Rick Dave because I was we're used 326 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 5: to Michael Malone. The way he ran his rotations in 327 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 5: the postseason was a short bench. 328 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if David Adelman's can do that. I 329 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: don't even know if he has the luxury to do 330 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: that because of the injuries that they're dealing with. 331 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's been a tough year to grade 332 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 2: your head coach. I know he's catching some strays on 333 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 2: the nuggets. I'm not one of them firing at him 334 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 2: because I just don't think it's been he said, so 335 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 2: many guys miss so many games. There have been games 336 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 2: where you look down and I think you're just you're 337 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 2: just sort of trying to pick a warm body to 338 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 2: get out and give me eight minutes play defense, get 339 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 2: on the floor and loose balls, lock out and if 340 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 2: you hit a shot, god bless you. It's all. It's 341 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 2: almost it's almost been like that. So but I think 342 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 2: I agree with what you guys said. Last last ten 343 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 2: games are going to be important. Try to position yourself 344 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 2: as best you can. You obviously, if it's if it's 345 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 2: going to be four or five, you'd like to be four. 346 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 2: Get the home court advantage there. But it's you know, 347 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 2: the Lakers have started, they've played much better recently. It's 348 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 2: it's hard to hard to kind of figure they're actually 349 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 2: getting quality minutes out of eighton now. Inside, it's remarkable, 350 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 2: it's it's remarkable. I still don't fear I know by 351 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 2: tomorrow you will, but I still don't. 352 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 3: Fear the Lakers. 353 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 2: Uh So if if, if if you start fearing the 354 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 2: Lakers too, then it's like you fear Minnesota, and god knows, 355 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 2: we fear Oklahoma City and now the Lakers and good Man, damn, 356 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 2: what about Wimby in San Antonio? And then I like 357 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 2: Houston because where they were last year. So we're gonna 358 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 2: fear five teams in the West. I think the you know, 359 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 2: I think I think somebody out of fear the Nuggets. 360 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I don't. 361 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 2: Want the Nuggets to have to play the timu Wolf 362 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 2: that was last year. 363 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: I was right, Timberwolves were a menace. The Nuggets have 364 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: figured out the Timberwolves were good. 365 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 2: Now, yeah, I don't think the Timberwolves beat the Nuggets 366 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 2: last year in the playoffs. 367 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 5: But they didn't have to. They made it past him 368 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 5: without it. Then the Nuggets lost to Oklahoma City with 369 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 5: the Timberwolves. 370 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: Yea, and so it was oak City that knocked him out. 371 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 2: Your your lew Dirt team Lude Dirt. 372 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Oklahoma City is still a monster and San 373 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 5: Antonio is very good. 374 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 3: So the Nuggets when they're healthy, yeah, they. 375 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: Listen, you have any committed this last Sunday. 376 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 5: And then you don't get to play Portland every week. 377 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 5: But this last Sunday when they were all in the 378 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 5: court together. 379 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was magic. 380 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 4: Would like to see Christian Brown find his touch a 381 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 4: little bit offensively going to the playoffs. 382 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 5: Yet that's a really good one. Yeah, he needs to 383 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 5: be confident in what he's doing. 384 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: And to your point. 385 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 5: About having kind of the core of the championship minus 386 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 5: Michael Porter Junior, you know, Christian Brown was part of that, 387 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 5: but he was a bitch guy then he was bench 388 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 5: rotation versus now being a starter. 389 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 4: It's a different mindset, it is, but Bruce Brown part 390 00:17:59,920 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 4: of that. He was He's back. Tim Hardaway has been 391 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 4: very good, but I've been fantastic. I don't think I've 392 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 4: said enough nice things about Tim Hardaway. Yeah, over the 393 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 4: course of the year that that was. I mean, I'm 394 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 4: not saying. 395 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 5: It's like the best signing that they've had, but it's 396 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 5: pretty high up there. 397 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: As for the rotation. 398 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 5: Guy, he's up there for six Man of the Year, 399 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying, Like he's in that conversation justifiably 400 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 5: competitive guy, and and and can come off to mention 401 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 5: make seven threes. 402 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: I think he's done that five times this year. 403 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 5: And I read this stay yesterday, Dave. It's the first 404 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 5: time since November twenty second that they had Joker, Aaron 405 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 5: Gordon and Peyton Watson. 406 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 3: I mean, thinking about that. 407 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: That's stunning no Ember twenty second. 408 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 3: So that's why I don't really I don't go all 409 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 3: in on David Adalman. Yeah. 410 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't think he's had a fair opportunity 411 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 2: to show you what kind of coach he can be. 412 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 5: I don't for what it's worth, and I know you're 413 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 5: not gonna believe me either way. I don't fear everybody 414 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 5: in the West, just. 415 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 2: The five teams that I mentioned. You don't you don't really, 416 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 2: you don't fear Sacramento. 417 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 5: No, I don't fear I don't fear Portland. You don't 418 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 5: fear Portland. Well, I don't think I fear the La Clippers, all. 419 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 3: The cellar dwellers. You're good with beating the hell out 420 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 3: of them. I get it. 421 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 5: Phoenix Suns don't scare me. Yeah, Golden Steak could be. 422 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 5: But they're they're they're two banged up. So yeah, you're right. 423 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 5: The just the six teams in the top, that's that's really, 424 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 5: that's just everyone. 425 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 3: God listen, if they. 426 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 5: If they, if they go on and they just tear 427 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 5: through the West. 428 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 2: You're you're gonna be a miserable human because you're not 429 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 2: welcome on the Bandwai. 430 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 3: You're not. Oh, it is true. 431 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 5: I wrote to Nuggets fans and they said, I'm fine. 432 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 5: I'm good because I say, who are the Nugget fans? 433 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 5: You two daughters? 434 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 3: Who what Nugget fans did you write to? 435 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 2: I did buy them some jerseys the Disney World too. 436 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: It's like, Paola, you're telling me that doesn't work. 437 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 3: I'm telling you that's a bribe, all. 438 00:19:58,680 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: Right, that's fair? 439 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 5: Five six six nine zero is o kay? With common 440 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 5: spirit Hill Textie the Competition Committee. I want to get 441 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 5: into a little bit of this. They have proposed five 442 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 5: rule changes that will be voted on next week. 443 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: We'll get to it next. 444 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 2: The Texter from seven Tower Old This says the NBA 445 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 2: is the worst sports product in the world. 446 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: Well, that guy's never happy as soon as we talk NBA. 447 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 3: Oh you already know? 448 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 2: So you actually know who some of these textures are? 449 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 3: Are they? How do you know that? 450 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 5: Well? That one I recognize specifically because it's like I 451 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 5: know the moment we're gonna talk Nuggets, he's gonna jump 452 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 5: out of the woodwork. 453 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 1: We'll talk Broncos and NFL for ninety percent of the show. 454 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: You know it's a hey, I've been right though. 455 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 2: So he's the same guy that writes the Nuggets have 456 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 2: played teams missing their stars all season. They might be 457 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 2: the seventh best team in the West. They're a disaster. 458 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 2: The Denver media continues to simp for the franchise while 459 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 2: seeking and destroying the Broncos and its fan base. 460 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 3: Wow, who is that is that? Your friend of yours? 461 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: Not a friend? 462 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:58,479 Speaker 3: No, no, no, somebody you know. 463 00:20:59,000 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 2: No. 464 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 5: I'm just saying we've in and he's called you and 465 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 5: I out both multiple times. 466 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 3: I wanted this is a guy that I talked to 467 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 3: on the phone. 468 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,479 Speaker 5: It might have been yeah, because he's actually it is. 469 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: You called him one time. 470 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 2: Listen, he's not a bad guy. What No, No, he's 471 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 2: not a bad guy. He's he's I mean, he loves 472 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 2: the Broncos for sure. So and if that's his opinion, 473 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 2: I don't think they're the seventh best team in the West. 474 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 2: And I think you know what, time will tell. When 475 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 2: the playoffs start, We'll we'll find out if it's a 476 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 2: quick departure in the playoffs, well then I'll have to 477 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 2: sort of rethink my position and say I was wrong. 478 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think that's going to be the 479 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 3: case this year for the Nuggets. 480 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: Well, I guarantee to that texture and everybody. 481 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 5: When the Nuggets and Abs are in the playoffs, who 482 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 5: we will be talking about them? 483 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: Got plenty of talking about the Broncos. 484 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 5: The draft is coming up, they still have seven picks, 485 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 5: there's plenty of intrigues still there. 486 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: They might sign more free agents. It's not like we're 487 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: gonna ignore. 488 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,719 Speaker 5: We talk at NFL a lot on this show, So 489 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 5: that's not going anywhere. But his point of about us. 490 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 5: Shoving it down people's throats is silly. So anyways, five. 491 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: Six six nine zero. Though, if you want to interact. 492 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 5: Otherwise, well that's the same guy I told you say 493 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 5: the heat as soon as we the. 494 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 2: NBA is anti fan players demand to be treated like 495 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 2: societal victims Lebron and clutch sports, isle ball, million threes 496 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 2: a game, no defense. 497 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 3: Listen. 498 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 2: I sort of agree with him on the million threes 499 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 2: a game. No grit, white boomer, self righteous, self righteous 500 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 2: dumb basketball coaches love telling these fans and fellow countrymen 501 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 2: that they're evil and racist. Commissioner in league office have 502 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 2: zero backbone flops. The NBA is broken, and Denver media 503 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 2: needs to st up shoving it down your listener's throats. 504 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 4: Okay, all right, all right, so he's on the fence 505 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 4: about how you wish he developed it. Yeah, come on, man, 506 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 4: I wanted to ask you about these rule proposals. 507 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 5: At the NFL Competition Committee, which of course Sean Payton 508 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 5: is a part of, they submitted five potential rule changes. 509 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: Now, three of them have to do with the kicking game. 510 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 5: Teams being permitted to declare on side kick at any 511 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 5: time during a game. Because remember right now, it's its 512 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 5: way to the fourth quarter, HA have to be trailing, 513 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 5: so on and so forth. A couple other kicking rules, 514 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 5: the ones that are really interesting to me, and this 515 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 5: one specifically because we're headed to a potential place where 516 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 5: we're going to have backup refts this upcoming season. Why 517 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 5: the CBA is expiring neckt in May and if they 518 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 5: don't get something together, we're gonna have backup officials. 519 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a big storyline. No, like it was 520 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 1: ten years ago. 521 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, when you had Seattle with the touchdown and 522 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 5: waving it off. And so for one year, only allow 523 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 5: the NFL Officiating Department to correct clear and obvious misses 524 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 5: by on field officials that impact the game in the 525 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 5: event of a work stoppage involving game of officials represented 526 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 5: by the NFL Referees Association. 527 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: They're writing this in that for one year. 528 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 2: To be voted on. Yes, I don't see anything wrong 529 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 2: with that. I don't either, But I don't see anything 530 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 2: wrong with that in terms of just moving forward in 531 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 2: the NFL. I think it takes pressure pressure on officials. 532 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 2: I think we're asking these guys to call a game. 533 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 2: And I've said this before that has very large humans 534 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 2: that are very fast. The game is really fast, and 535 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 2: we're asking them to see things and make split second 536 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 2: calls and never make a mistake. It's just not humanly possible. 537 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 2: So anything that I think the league can do to 538 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 2: take a little bit of pressure off the men that work, 539 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 2: men and women that work the game, I'd be in 540 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 2: favor of. 541 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 3: So this idea, I think is a pretty good one. 542 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 1: I agree. 543 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 5: And honestly, the fact that they say for one year only, 544 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 5: you do wonder because they do these test balloon things 545 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 5: where it's with pass interference. Remember we could we for 546 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 5: a year, we got a chance to challenge past interference. Now, 547 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 5: of course it didn't end up going anywhere, but I 548 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,360 Speaker 5: do like how the NFL does it, and they sort 549 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 5: of write it in a way that's kind of clever. 550 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 5: For one year only, but today's point, this feels like 551 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 5: very logical. Why would you just get it right? 552 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: Does that mean they're gonna review every flag? Well? 553 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 5: I think what it is is is they they have 554 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 5: the eye in the sky, right and you're watching the game, 555 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 5: and people sitting on their couches see it a certain way, 556 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 5: and if it's a pretty clear and obvious thing, now 557 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 5: to your point, like, what does that mean as far 558 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 5: as face mask? 559 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, will they be able to throw a flag after 560 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 4: the play after they see it if it wasn't thrown 561 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 4: on the field's correct, correct, clear and obvious misses by 562 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 4: on field officials. 563 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 5: It's a slippery slope there. Then yeah, you could throw 564 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 5: a flag after the fact. 565 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 4: Yes, And so you're lining up for the next play, 566 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 4: all of a sudden they blow the whistle because they 567 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 4: get a call from New York and then they gotta 568 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 4: throw a flag on the field late. 569 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: It's gonna slow down pace of play if you care 570 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: about that. But do you want to get rights? 571 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 4: I mean, does every does everything need to be perfect? 572 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 4: Like the immaculate reception might not even have been a reception. 573 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 4: There wasn't a camera angle on that play. You can't 574 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 4: really see it. That's a good point, you know, it 575 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 4: was a catch. You think about back in high school 576 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 4: and when we were playing, I mean, we didn't have reviews. 577 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 4: The mythology the game is about the momentum of a game, 578 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 4: and I think that you can it's you can enter 579 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 4: some dangerous territory when you slow it down to try 580 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 4: to get it right all the time. 581 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: Because look. It's also. 582 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 4: The eye in the sky does lie in a way 583 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 4: if you watch it back ten times in slow motion, 584 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 4: it creates a false perspective of what actually happened in 585 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 4: the play. For example, everybody holds every play. Okay, I'm holding, 586 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 4: if i'm blocking, I'm holding, I'm grabbing, and i'm holding. 587 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 4: You start breaking free, I gotta let you go. Now 588 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 4: are they going to start calling that a hold because 589 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 4: you can see it and we can review it, and 590 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 4: you saw that I grabbed it. Is it going to 591 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 4: change the way that the rules are enforced when you 592 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 4: can slow it down and look at everything on camera. 593 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 4: That's what I would not want to see because there 594 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 4: are already a lot of flags on the field. 595 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 2: I would guess it would not not change the holding 596 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 2: part of the game at all. It would change the 597 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 2: obvious like he caught it, but the second foot came 598 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 2: down in bounds, or I mean the ball, you know, 599 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 2: the ball was knocked free, but the quarterback's knee was 600 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 2: on the ground. Just stuff that could alter a game 601 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 2: in terms of possession of. 602 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 3: The ball that they could then go back and get 603 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 3: it right. 604 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 4: I'd be in favor of that, But imagine, like you know, 605 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 4: Riley Moss at the end of the game against the 606 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 4: Buffalo Bills that you know, throw down the sideline. Now, 607 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 4: the Buffalo bill fans thought it should have been a 608 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 4: pass interference. 609 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 3: It wasn't called one. 610 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 4: Would you be in favor of Ryan of it being 611 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 4: called one by someone in New York? I wanted to 612 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 4: be right, So then yeah, And if I'm sitting in 613 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 4: my living room now the pro it's hard to pend down. 614 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 4: If I'm staying in my living room and it looks 615 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 4: very obvious, it feels like something that we should do. 616 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: We should just good rights. That's it. 617 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 5: But the problem with PI, as we found out by 618 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 5: the process of being able to challenge it, is there's 619 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 5: a lot more nuance to that rule than probably ascribed 620 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 5: like what I would say looks like obvious PI or 621 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 5: the opposite of and it gets called like Riley Moss 622 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 5: oftentimes called for DPIs when it just felt like, okay, 623 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 5: that that's tiki tak well by letter of the law, 624 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 5: they find a way to explain it as Nope, that 625 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 5: was absolutely PI. 626 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 1: Even if you had to challenged it, we would have held. 627 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: We would upheld it. 628 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 4: But there's an art to bending or stretching the boundaries 629 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 4: of what a rule is. There's you know, like I 630 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 4: can push off to create some separation so I can 631 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 4: catch the ball as a receiver, but I got to 632 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 4: do it in a way that slick that the human 633 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 4: eye can't catch. But a camera slowed down watch seven 634 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 4: times in slow motion over the thirty seconds before the 635 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 4: next play can catch that. And so I think there's 636 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 4: there's an opportunity for it to get taken a little 637 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 4: too far. 638 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 3: To rule. 639 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 5: Well, they're the other, only other one, because I said 640 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 5: there are three on kicking allowed league personnel to consult 641 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 5: with on field officials when considering disqualifications for both flagrant 642 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 5: football acts and non football acts without. 643 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 4: Being called on the field so slow it slowed the 644 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 4: game down a little more. Now, moral conversations with officials, 645 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 4: if you if. 646 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 2: You're talking about so the league, so somebody in New 647 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 2: York watching the game would have influence on if a 648 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 2: call was made that a player was either disqualified or 649 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 2: should be disqualified. 650 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 3: The league office is going to decide. 651 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 2: That's what's sounds say that again, that's a that's a 652 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 2: safety net I think for the officials. I'm with Nate 653 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 2: on I don't want the game slowed down too much. 654 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 2: But I'm okay. I'm okay in terms of because I 655 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 2: think officials are like the players at times on the field. 656 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 2: It's a pretty emotional game. You can get real caught 657 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 2: up in something. You something all of a sudden, you're like, 658 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 2: you know, you flag it and the guy's going to 659 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 2: be thrown out of the game. Did you really punch 660 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 2: the guy? I would tend to be okay with that. 661 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 2: What are the other two kicking ones? 662 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 5: Eliminate kicking team's incentive to intentionally kick the ball out 663 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 5: of bounds when kicking off from the fifty yard line, 664 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 5: and then modify the kicking alignment requirements for receiving team 665 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 5: in the setup zone. 666 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: So they're kind of just things that. 667 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 2: They just need to come up with two or three 668 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 2: things to justify. 669 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 3: Where are they going to Phoenix again? Yeah? I think Biltmore. Yeah, Yeah, So. 670 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 2: They got to justify, like we're gonna go down there 671 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 2: for four days and damn we got to have a 672 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 2: few things. Well, the. 673 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 4: Way they did this kickoff that ensures it because every 674 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 4: year they're gonna have to do something to explain it 675 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 4: because it's so complicated. 676 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 5: Sweet sixteen set and the men's tournaments. We got this 677 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 5: Thursday eleven, number eleven, Texas versus number two, per Due 678 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 5: number nine, Iowa versus number four, Nebraska number four, Arkansas 679 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 5: Big going taking on Arizona Kawai tournament. Updates for Brasila 680 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 5: by Exfinity and Dave Smith Motors low prices that are 681 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 5: hard to beat on Ram Jeep, GMC and chev Roleigh. 682 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: It's going up on the show, Ben Steve Ottwater in 683 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: the first hour. 684 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 3: Nice, it'll be a lot of fun. We got a. 685 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 5: Guy who does the reverse engineer at the NFL's compensatory 686 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 5: pick formula tomorrow, so that'll be that'll be like you'll 687 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 5: explaining explaining that to the listeners tomorrow. Hey, don't you 688 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 5: need charts? I never understood the compensatory pick. I imagine that's 689 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 5: why you're having them on. That's why we're having them on. 690 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 5: Yeah we album. Yeah, riveting Nate, great job today is 691 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 5: always my friends, appreciate you enjoyed it. 692 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: Really good stuff. Grants you're the man BCT Next