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Speaker 1: All right, here we go. Welcome in everybody. It is

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Speaker 1: the After Show podcast. I'm justin. I am the only

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Speaker 1: co host named Winnie who's no longer here. Winnie, love

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Speaker 1: you miss you. She did the podcast with me several years,

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Speaker 1: but then there was just one. It's just me and

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Speaker 1: you know, if you haven't been around for a while,

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Speaker 1: I've been talking about, you know, what I should do

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Speaker 1: with the podcast as the only person left. Should I

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Speaker 1: continue the podcast? And the feedback is mostly that I

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Speaker 1: should should continue the podcast and have different guests on, right, Billy, Lisa,

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Speaker 1: maybe producer Riley one day, people in this building, people

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Speaker 1: in my life. You know, we've had Power of Recovery

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Speaker 1: on Jenna, my stretch girl who I love. Nurse Fiona

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Speaker 1: has been on before, so different people that I have

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Speaker 1: relationships with I'm gonna invite on. So we had Lisa

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Speaker 1: on yesterday. And Lisa has always been a requested guest

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Speaker 1: hard to get her in here. She has a lot

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Speaker 1: of endorsements, a lot of clients, obviously the book club.

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Speaker 1: But the other person that was heavily requested, was my

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Speaker 1: best friend in the whole world named Zeb. Now, if

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Speaker 1: you don't know who Zeb is, which I'm sure you do,

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Speaker 1: because I posted a tease about today's podcast on my

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Speaker 1: Instagram and it literally blew up, So I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 1: you know who he is. You can find him on

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Speaker 1: Instagram at zeb days. He is my best friend, he's

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Speaker 1: my workout partner. We've been friends. We're gonna go through

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Speaker 1: the whole story for a long time. He sits at

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Speaker 1: eighty four thousand followers on Instagram to my twenty and

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Speaker 1: I invited him on yesterday. I texted him and I said, Hey,

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Speaker 1: Monday through Wednesday of any week. I was thinking in

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, and he said, how about tomorrow?

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Speaker 1: And here he is. Welcome Zeb. Thank you. Okay, talk

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Speaker 1: right into the mic. Come on, pretend, hold on, pretend

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Speaker 1: like you're making a real that you do every single day.

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Speaker 2: All right, all right, how you doing? Everybody?

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Speaker 1: There? You go?

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me on. I'm very excited. Second time.

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Speaker 3: On last time I was on, Bex was here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was when Bex was here.

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Speaker 2: So you came in, I came in.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a while, but yeah, I'm excited when

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Speaker 3: you when you reached out, I was a little nervous.

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Speaker 1: I was like, all right, well, I think people, I

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Speaker 1: know more about us, maybe our friendship. So we'll go

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Speaker 1: through the whole story, right and get to know Zeb

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Speaker 2: Okay, here we go, sit back, relax.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell my side of the story first on

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Speaker 1: how we met, because what happened with you, Zeb is

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Speaker 1: you know, people know that we work out together, that

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Speaker 1: But then you kind of had this social media takeover

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Speaker 1: watch your videos and what you do with the Cardigans,

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Speaker 1: a funny dude. You're really good at it. You know that.

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Speaker 1: I know that, right, but people don't really maybe they

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Speaker 2: Let's do it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, so let's let's go back to Let's

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Speaker 1: go back to twoenty twelve. In twenty twelve. I got

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Speaker 1: And I would see zeb walk in and work out. Now, obviously,

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Speaker 1: to push myself. You were there for not just gym stuff,

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Speaker 1: We actually kind of bumped somebody off the list so

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Speaker 1: And we're still going now now. We work out one

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And it's still leg day when we work.

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Speaker 1: Out every Wednesday. We do legs together. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So the really cool thing about ZEB two is see

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Speaker 1: that time. You know, I connect that to everything, you know,

436
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Speaker 1: and like you said, eventually you met my friends and

437
00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:58,919
Speaker 1: you came part of the family and all that stuff.

438
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Speaker 1: And like I said, you were my wedding and then wait,

439
00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,320
Speaker 1: so okay, so do you want to talk about the

440
00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,320
Speaker 1: So you came from a Christian home, right, So I

441
00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,080
Speaker 1: want to get to this part of it because people

442
00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,920
Speaker 1: that follow you, they see the cardigans thing you do

443
00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,760
Speaker 1: and you take donations, yes, and you go to this

444
00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:16,919
Speaker 1: Elvis cardigans.

445
00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,879
Speaker 2: Note, just cardigans. Don't say I'm getting sent bags.

446
00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:21,880
Speaker 1: Oh oh really yeah, okay.

447
00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,600
Speaker 3: Just send cardigan if you're gonna send it my peel

448
00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:27,000
Speaker 3: boxes on my page. But people were sending me like

449
00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:28,560
Speaker 3: they're old pants and underwear.

450
00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,800
Speaker 1: Oh right, yeah, so just cardigans. And it's just it's

451
00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,320
Speaker 1: so funny to me. Okay, before you explain the whole,

452
00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,800
Speaker 1: like social media and what you do on Sundays and

453
00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,359
Speaker 1: all that stuff, what's so crazy to me, so so

454
00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:43,320
Speaker 1: funny to me is what do people know you for

455
00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,639
Speaker 1: on Instagram? Right? They know you for crap? You should

456
00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,200
Speaker 1: know that's where it started, right, Will you do useless facts?

457
00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,560
Speaker 1: Because you're good with the camera. And I think one

458
00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,800
Speaker 1: time you told me years ago, correct me if I'm wrong,

459
00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:55,560
Speaker 1: that when you were growing up, when you were a

460
00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,119
Speaker 1: little kid, you did have dreams of being like on

461
00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,600
Speaker 1: TV or in movies or acting and some sense. Is

462
00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,720
Speaker 1: that true? Yeah, So it makes sense that with social

463
00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:05,720
Speaker 1: media you kind of found that, you know, because you

464
00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,240
Speaker 1: didn't go that route in life, and now you kind

465
00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:09,960
Speaker 1: of had that kind of outlet. And you're really good

466
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:15,200
Speaker 1: obviously you know that. But when I met you, okay,

467
00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,199
Speaker 1: I learned about you you were a Christian. What I

468
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,480
Speaker 1: really loved about it because I've gone to your church,

469
00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,800
Speaker 1: I've been there. What I really loved about you is

470
00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,800
Speaker 1: you you never tried to push it on me or

471
00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,760
Speaker 1: anybody else. You basically were like, this is what I do,

472
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:33,600
Speaker 1: and if you want what I have, just do what

473
00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,040
Speaker 1: I do. Right, These are my beliefs, this is what

474
00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,400
Speaker 1: I believe, this is my faith. But you never were

475
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,480
Speaker 1: like you know, because that's what turns people off. I

476
00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,160
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, and then I end up going

477
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,800
Speaker 1: to your church and loved it, you know what I mean.

478
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Speaker 1: But when I met you, I learned about that part

479
00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,240
Speaker 1: of your life. I went to the church at the

480
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Speaker 1: elderly Home. You've been holding it for years there. Every

481
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Speaker 1: Sunday you go for these people in the home that

482
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,639
Speaker 1: are the forgotten ones. Right, you bring them cardigans and

483
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Speaker 1: you hold a service your dad used to hold it

484
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,920
Speaker 1: and your dad was the minister or the pastor. Yes,

485
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,719
Speaker 1: then your dad passed a couple of years ago, few

486
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:06,080
Speaker 1: years ago.

487
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Speaker 3: Now, right, when was that two thousand and one?

488
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry twenty one. Yeahah, so four years ago, four

489
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 1: years and then you've taken you've taken it over. Yeah.

490
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Speaker 3: There was a little gap because of COVID couldn't go in. Yeah,

491
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,680
Speaker 3: but right as soon as you can open the doors.

492
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 3: As soon as they opened the doors, we went back

493
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 3: in and started it back just will be.

494
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Speaker 1: We just picked up yeft off so you you would

495
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,880
Speaker 1: you were doing that when I met you, okay, over

496
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 1: ten years ago. Also, I'm not making this up. The

497
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 1: first time that you came out with my friends and

498
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 1: I on Guys Night, you were wearing a cardigan. Yes,

499
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 1: And Chris, who was the biggest ball buster of the group,

500
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,719
Speaker 1: could not let it go. No, He's like, dude, are

501
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 1: you wearing a fucking cardigan? Like? And we brought it

502
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 1: up for years after and you've always been the cardigan guy. Okay.

503
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,440
Speaker 1: So fast forward now and now that's like your persona

504
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 1: right is you have your church which you document not

505
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,880
Speaker 1: inside of the church, but like the car bringing donating

506
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 1: cardigans to them. So you've been doing this right for

507
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,119
Speaker 1: years now, you just document it right, Yes, I just

508
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,879
Speaker 1: because people were wondering what I did. One I remember

509
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 1: the day it was. It was a cold day. It

510
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,199
Speaker 1: was a very quick thing. I had a cardigan on

511
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Speaker 1: and I didn't even expect to become the quote Cardigan

512
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,400
Speaker 1: King end quote that people call me now.

513
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 3: And I was just I didn't think. It's life never

514
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,400
Speaker 3: turns out the way that you expect it. That never,

515
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 3: it's always. That's the true statement. So yeah, I've we've

516
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 3: been doing the we were doing the sunny services, and

517
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 3: I went in and I said, whatever is in your

518
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,880
Speaker 3: het comes out your mouth, whatever is it, Whatever comes

519
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 3: out your mouth is in your heart. So if you're

520
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 3: spewing negativity and you're playing people down or whatever, you

521
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 3: got to fix your heart. So that's then that blew up.

522
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 3: And I said, Okay, there's something here. And then I

523
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:59,120
Speaker 3: bought a I got I bought a condo and this

524
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 3: woman had left, who had passed away. She had left

525
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 3: tuppleware containers full of these cardigans, and I said, oh,

526
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 3: I don't want to get rid of these. What I

527
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 3: can do is I'll give them away at the nursing home.

528
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 3: So I get to the nursing home that Sunday and

529
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 3: I'm like, let me just throw one on. So I

530
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 3: threw one on and I did this little fashion show

531
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 3: and then who would have thought like them?

532
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 2: It just blew up.

533
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 3: And that's how the status on social media on.

534
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 2: I didn't expect it.

535
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 3: I thought I was going to be known for useless crap, crap,

536
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,120
Speaker 3: and that's what I started with, and that was going nowhere.

537
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 3: And I have to give you a shout out because

538
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 3: you you had talked to me on multiple ocasions. I

539
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 3: do have to say something. So Justin, you have to

540
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 3: get yourself a friend. A true friend is someone who

541
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,679
Speaker 3: tells you things regardless if it hurts your feelings, and

542
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 3: they say it in love. Justin is been you have

543
00:23:55,720 --> 00:24:00,880
Speaker 3: been that for me. The constructive criticism is heard as hard.

544
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 3: Many marry, many therapy sessions at the gym of where

545
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 3: I should be, what I should and if you had

546
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 3: overstepped you you were quick to apologize, and that right

547
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 3: there it has reinforced.

548
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 2: And we work out, you know.

549
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 3: We see each other here and there and we work

550
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,439
Speaker 3: out Wednesdays and it's like, but that bond, that's an

551
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 3: unbreakable bond because of a true friendship. And that's why

552
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 3: when you asked me yesterday, I was like, come on tomorrow.

553
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 3: And it's but that he is a true friend and

554
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 3: he is the He is a big part of me

555
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 3: breaking out of my shell. And you said, this is

556
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 3: this is your this is what it is. You need

557
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 3: to do this. And when I went on a hiatus

558
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 3: earlier this year, social media got to me a little

559
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 3: bit and I needed to take a break. I stepped

560
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 3: back for a couple of months, and you came to

561
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 3: me and you said, listen, people listen to you.

562
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 2: You cannot let this go.

563
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 3: People are watching you for inspiration, for comfort, like this

564
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 3: is something it's more about. It's more than you. Now

565
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:01,719
Speaker 3: you were the force, and so I looked at it.

566
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 3: I prayed about it, and we're back. Yeah, we're back, baby,

567
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 3: We're back at full force. I get cardigans. My trunk,

568
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 3: I bet is packed full of CARDI like I'm getting

569
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 3: I gotta go to the peel box when i leave

570
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 3: here and pick up more cardigans. And I love that

571
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 3: people want to give and I like that people are

572
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 3: seeing a little bit of kindness, like the world in

573
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 3: this in this state where.

574
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Speaker 1: You could consider yourself an influencer, right. Anybody who's on

575
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: social media with a lodge presence could be considered an

576
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 1: influencer for many different things, food, whatever. I think what

577
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 1: you're doing is so positive. And I'll give you a story,

578
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 1: a quick story. I already told you this, but I

579
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 1: was at an event for my son's school recently a

580
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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, and there were some listeners there.

581
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 1: They came up to me and said they listened to

582
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: the show whatever. And it's always super nice, you know,

583
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: I say, I always say thank you for listening. And

584
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,400
Speaker 1: this one woman comes up to me and she says,

585
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 1: justin I'm a big fan of the show. Nice to

586
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: meet you. I said, nice to meet you too, and

587
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,239
Speaker 1: she goes, I just have to say and she kind

588
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: of got like choked up, and she goes, I just

589
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 1: want to say thank you. And in my head I

590
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 1: thought she was gonna say for sharing your story and

591
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 1: your addiction. Maybe it's because it happens all the time,

592
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: people say I lost my brother to an overdose or whatever.

593
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: I'm in recovery. He goes, thank you, and I just

594
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,959
Speaker 1: want to say thank you, and then she kind of

595
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 1: paused and she said for giving us zeb and I

596
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: looked up at her and I'm like, it caught me

597
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: off guard, and I'm like, oh yeah, and she goes,

598
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: he is just a gift to this earth. He has

599
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: gotten me through so much. I love his videos. He

600
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 1: is just a gem and I just want to say

601
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 1: thank you for sharing him with all of us or

602
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: introducing us. And I was like, I was laughing so hot.

603
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: I went to Gen. I told we were laugh my wife.

604
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: And that really speaks volumes though, because I know you

605
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 1: have fun doing it with the reels and they're really

606
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 1: funny and stuff, but people really get a lot out

607
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 1: of them. So it's a form of service. And I

608
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: know that in my world, the recovery is all about service.

609
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 1: What you do in the Christian world as a Christian

610
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: is service. What you're doing every Sunday is service. The

611
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: highest calling you can have is it really is. And

612
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: I think one of the most profound things about what

613
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 1: you do with the the elderly home. As I mentioned

614
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: this earlier when I first started going with you, and

615
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: I need to come back. I need to just do it.

616
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: What happened was my son was born. It was before Abel.

617
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: Once Abel was born, it was like, all game over.

618
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: But now I can go. So I'm gonna come. I'm

619
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: gonna come. I'm gonna get problem.

620
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 3: We'll give you a cat again. Okay, I got the

621
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 3: raccoon catigan for you. And I didn't even know that

622
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 3: you were going to talk about raccoons on the show.

623
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 3: I know he wore we'll get a picture of that

624
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 3: and post that up. But when I went to the

625
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Speaker 3: to the to the.

626
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Speaker 1: Service with you and your dad is when your dad

627
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: was alive, you explained to me after we get out,

628
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: I was like, what that was like? Really something? And

629
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 1: you go justin like these are the forgotten people, and

630
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: I go, I know it's it's really sad. You go, no, no, no,

631
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 1: you don't understand these people in these home in Methuin,

632
00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 1: that's where it is. Their families live in mathun Like.

633
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 1: They don't live across the country and they're not flying here.

634
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: They live down the street and they don't come visit

635
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 1: their family members. They are forgotten. In this one hour

636
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 1: that I come in and give a message, you know,

637
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 1: about Jesus and about God and about faith is what

638
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: they look forward to every week. It makes them so happy,

639
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: and you should. They are so happy. You used to

640
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: post some.

641
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 2: Of them, right, yeah, I did.

642
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 3: They there's like hippo laws now so I but I

643
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 3: I also don't film inside because I don't want to

644
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 3: be one of those like look at me doing good.

645
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 3: I do the card to get out front, and I

646
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 3: show you what people is and I give you a

647
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 3: little message. It's a pre uh a, it's a what

648
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 3: are they what they called? It's just a it's a

649
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 3: little bit of what I talk about with them. Any

650
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 3: message I give on Sunday morning to the Instagram or TikTok,

651
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 3: it's it's that's what I'll talk about with them. And

652
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 3: a lot of it is just is trying to give

653
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 3: them some hope. And there's two things I'll say. One,

654
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 3: you hear if you breathe, there's still purpose, there's still

655
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 3: time to do something into and to And my first

656
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 3: and foremost is put your trust in God, like trust

657
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 3: in Jesus. It's it's the best decision you'll ever make.

658
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 3: And second to do with the nursing home. I say

659
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 3: this the only difference between nursing homes in prison. And

660
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 3: I know this sounds harsh, but this is I've been

661
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 3: going for a lot for a long time is the bars.

662
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 3: They have ankle brace ankle bracelets. They can't leave, like

663
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 3: they're not just going out. Some people can't and go

664
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 3: into the court yet. And I'm not bashing, it's just

665
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 3: they can't. This to the staff is not there or

666
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 3: the meaning they're understaffed, or they they just can't physically.

667
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 3: I can't get out there. And it's it's really sad

668
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 3: because I'm coming to them. And this is one or

669
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 3: two women especially, I go in there and they're like

670
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 3: they just crying. They cry, they're crying tears and they say,

671
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 3: I just want to get out of here, and so

672
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 3: I give them a big hug, kiss and I give them,

673
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 3: give them something, and I try to and I'll sing

674
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 3: to them.

675
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 2: I'll go I'll go room to room.

676
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, zeb sayings during the second I saw that firsthand.

677
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 2: And we'll sing and we'll sing to them.

678
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 3: And because I'm like, I don't have a good I'm no,

679
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 3: I'm no crooner, I'm no what Frank Sinatra or I

680
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 3: thank you, I appreciate it. Yeah, Like but that little

681
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 3: that little time, it lights up that like it's just

682
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 3: I'm I don't it's not for me, it's for them.

683
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: But that's it's very similar to recovery and service is

684
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: you know, you're doing it for them, but you are

685
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: getting something out of it too, just like not that

686
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: you're looking for that, but it gives you. It gives

687
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: you peace, right, it makes you feel good because you're

688
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: doing something for for someone else. That's what service is. Yes,

689
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: it's not because I think in this might be my

690
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: case more than you because you kind of grew up

691
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: in that environment of like, you know, helping others, right,

692
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,959
Speaker 1: But we're selfish people. I'll speak to myself like, I'm

693
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: self centered. I think about myself first and that's something

694
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: that I've really had to work on and changing that

695
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: line of thinking. So you know, when you help others,

696
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: you're helping them and you're doing a service, and that's great,

697
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: but you're also getting something out of it too, you know,

698
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: it makes sure you feel good. What was the what

699
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: was the gentleman's name when I was going He since

700
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: passed that lived in the home. He was blind, Michael

701
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: Poet And was he blind and deaf or just just blind?

702
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: But he was he had kidney failure. Yeah, he was

703
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: in a wheelchair. This this guy, I'll never forget him.

704
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: We would go every week and he would be there.

705
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: He was blind, so many health issues, and he was

706
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: just the happiest guy. Yeah, he was so happy. Like

707
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: I would sit and talk to him, and I remember thinking, like,

708
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: sometimes I would get down on my own life, right,

709
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: things aren't going my way, right, maybe I'm fighting with

710
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: my wife or whatever. I don't have money that I want, yes,

711
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: And then I would think about him. Look at this guy.

712
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: This poor guy can't even see. He's in this home,

713
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: probably no hope of ever leaving. I think he had

714
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,479
Speaker 1: no family left, right, Well, we did have family, but

715
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: he was not he was not going anywhere. He died there, yes,

716
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: you know, like and I remember thinking, that's where perspective

717
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: comes in of life, right, it's the glass half full

718
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: or half empty, right, put yourself in someone else's shoes.

719
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: This guy, you know, here, I am bitching about my life.

720
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: So it was just a really good moment with him.

721
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: And he passed when a couple of years ago, it's

722
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: been yeah, it's been five years. So yeah, I'll never

723
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: forget him. Man, you never forget him.

724
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 3: There's there's a lot just like him with the same story,

725
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 3: and they just and that's what the other thing is

726
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 3: they have stories, they have time, they have they have

727
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 3: their life experiences, and a lot of that's going to

728
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 3: just go to the wayside because, like I said, I

729
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 3: posted something yesterday like material is a money, power, fame,

730
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 3: all that stuff is pushed to the wayside. Now now

731
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 3: it's about connection. They just want to They just want

732
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 3: to talk, They just want people to listen. They just

733
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 3: want to be seen. And yes I do. It does

734
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 3: give me, if anything, it gives me an appreciation for life.

735
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 3: That life is brief. Life is beautiful, but it's also

736
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 3: very brief, and it's it's life is in between the lines.

737
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 3: It's in the moments that.

738
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 2: You don't expect.

739
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 3: It's like when we talk about the good times, the

740
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 3: good times are right now. We're sitting here, we're healthy,

741
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 3: thank God. But this is the good time.

742
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 2: Smith. We're gonna look back.

743
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 3: On this and it's getting me emotional now because like

744
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 3: I love my life, and I love the friendships I

745
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 3: have with you and and all the other guys and

746
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 3: gals that I have. It's just I love my family,

747
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 3: I love it's life is good. Look, I can see,

748
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 3: I can walk. I drove here. I take my hat

749
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 3: off to people who drive in traffic every day. It

750
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 3: took me an hour and fifteen minutes to get to

751
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 3: Medford from Able today. But it's but I enjoyed it.

752
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 3: I was looking at the I was looking at the foliage.

753
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 3: I was enjoying listening to the show on the way down,

754
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 3: and I was just I'm alive and I can do something.

755
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 3: If you are alive today, you can do something. Buy

756
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 3: somebody a coffee, but don't wait around for them to say, oh,

757
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 3: they did it.

758
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 2: Just I drive away.

759
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, just know that you just made someone's day,

760
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 3: put the extra drawll in tip cup, or doing doing

761
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 3: something outside yourself, outside your comfort zone.

762
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 2: Get outside.

763
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 3: That's the hardest thing, right, Going back to the gym,

764
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 3: the hardest thing for us to do was to walk

765
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 3: in the gym because we were heavy.

766
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 2: I threw a sweatshirt. I would always wear a sweatshirt.

767
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god, I'm oh my god, Oh my god, god. Okay,

768
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: I'm glad you said this reminded me. Glad you just

769
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: brought me here. So I've been telling this story a

770
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 1: lot recently. I told it like two or three times

771
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 1: randomly to people for whatever reason. Yep, but I remember,

772
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: I'll never forget I had just started working out with Zeb,

773
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: maybe a month or so. I was still fat, right,

774
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: I was not as fat, but I was still you know,

775
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 1: out of shape. And my big thing was my breasts. Right.

776
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: I had a lot of skin, A lot of my

777
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,919
Speaker 1: fat goes to my breasts. I actually posted you see

778
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: this Zeb on my Instagram. Today's the nine year anniversary

779
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 1: of my boob job. Remember the boob job? Yeah? Remember

780
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: my wife took care of me and all that stuff. Yeah,

781
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: so today's nine years. I had got a commassia Surgeryah,

782
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: it's been nine years, but I remember. It was probably

783
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: like a month after we started working out and I

784
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: got out of work. I went to the gym to

785
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: meet Zeb. I walked into the gym. He was already there.

786
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: He was sitting down waiting for me. I walk in,

787
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 1: walk up to him like I did every day, and

788
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: he looked up at me and he goes, why do

789
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: you walk like that? And I'm like, walk like what?

790
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 1: He goes, You walk with your shoulders slumped in, almost

791
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: like you don't want people to see your stomach or

792
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: something like you're trying to hide it, you know, And

793
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: I go, yeah, I don't know, what are you talking

794
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: about like look at me, you know, like I don't

795
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: want people to see this, Like why are you saying that?

796
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: And you go, look from this point forward, from this

797
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: day forward, starting right now, I want you to walk

798
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: with your shoulders back, and you stood up and you

799
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: took me and you pulled my shoulders back and you

800
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: prop my chest out and you put my chin up.

801
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: You go, from now on, I want you to walk

802
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: like this, no matter where you are, what room you're

803
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: going into the gym, no matter what, with your chin

804
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: held I and your chest out and your shoulders back,

805
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: because that shows confidence. I don't care if you have

806
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 1: a six pack or if you have tits, I don't care.

807
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: You walk like you do have a six pack. And

808
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: from that day forward, I'll never forget that that's how

809
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: I walk. And over time I ended up losing had

810
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: the boob, well before that, losing the chest, getting into shit,

811
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: and now like it's so it's confidence, it's confidence, it's confidence.

812
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,439
Speaker 1: So you were giving me that confidence before I even

813
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: had any confidence in myself. You know. It's just like

814
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: moments like that you think back and you're right, we're

815
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: gonna get older, right, and we're gonna look back at

816
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: these times, these good times. We're doing it right now.

817
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 1: Life is about memories. It's about cherishing those memories. Yep.

818
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: And we've had a lot.

819
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 2: We've had a lot.

820
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, real quick, I'm wanna get to one or

821
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: two more things.

822
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 2: Okay.

823
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: Your social media, yes, so you started the tick. You

824
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: had Instagram had no really no movement. You had a TikTok.

825
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: The TikTok a few years ago kind of blew up. Right.

826
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 1: You had like one hundred thousand follower.

827
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have one hundred and almost one hundred and

828
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: thirty now.

829
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: So it was growing, growing, growing, and I remember like

830
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: watching it. I really wasn't on TikTok, but you were

831
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: doing crap. You should know. With Ray. Ray is the

832
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: kid you work with. I work with Ray. Yep, He's

833
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: are great because you guys offset each other.

834
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's Yeah, he's young and young and ambitious and

835
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,760
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm older, so I and I guide that ambition.

836
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's a good kid. So you work for

837
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 1: the wastewater department, so you're like in the ship pipes

838
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: pretty much.

839
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 2: Basically, I'm a sewer jumper.

840
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 1: You're a sewer jumper. Yeah, so a lot of your

841
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: content is around what you do there, so you had

842
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: ray you do crap. You should know the TikTok takes off, okay,

843
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: but then it's stalled. I remember you saying that sold

844
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: after one hundred thousand in and around there, right, So

845
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 1: then ZEB kept going on or whatever, and then I'll

846
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: never forget your Instagram. You would talk to me about

847
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: it and you'd say, like, how do you grow your Instagram?

848
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: Like Instagram, I get no movement, and I'm like, I

849
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: don't know, don't I work on the radio. I have

850
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 1: like ten thousand followers. And then one day I'll never

851
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: forget this. I happened to put on it go on Instagram,

852
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: and you had thirty thousand followers, and I thought you

853
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 1: bought them. No, I was. I was convinced, and I

854
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: showed at the gym and I go, what the fuck

855
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: is this? And you're like, dude, I don't know. I

856
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: did like one or two videos and it's just exploded,

857
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 1: and it has sense exploded. Now you have eighty thousand followers. Yeah,

858
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: So what video was it that sent? Do you remember?

859
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 3: There was one, the one with and I think I

860
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 3: just reposted it. It was the one with We're in

861
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 3: the I'm looking for the drain in the I'm in

862
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 3: I'm in Hip Hip Hip high Water with waiters on

863
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 3: and Ray is yelling at me trying to find the drain,

864
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 3: and he's recording me, and I'm like, and so I

865
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 3: come over and I shake.

866
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: The tree or whatever.

867
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 3: So that is you know, I played it up a

868
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 3: little bit, but I was frustrated. We're trying to find

869
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 3: We're trying to find the drain for this thing, and.

870
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: Playing it up.

871
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 3: You have to write, this is the since I watched

872
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 3: my first oscars.

873
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 2: I've always wanted to be an actors.

874
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I was just like, so he played up, Yeah,

875
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 3: and it came over, but it was but that genuine

876
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 3: frustration trying to find this thing was there and definitely

877
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 3: fueling it. But yeah, and uh, from that, I just

878
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 3: reposted it and and it just went and the people

879
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 3: started to attach themselves to the cardigan and waiting, waiting patiently,

880
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 3: like dming me or messaging me, you can't wait for

881
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 3: next Sunday, you can't wait. Thank You've helped me through

882
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 3: I this, you know, this reminded me to come back

883
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 3: and you know, hone in on what's really important and

884
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 3: that's what it is. So now instead of what what

885
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 3: I thought was going to take off was the CYSK.

886
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 3: Now it's more of the Lord's work stuff that I

887
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 3: do and going to the.

888
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: Nursing home andysk is crap. You should know, crap you shouldn't.

889
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: We'll get fun facts every day, Just.

890
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 3: Get fun useless facts like you know a giraffe can

891
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 3: clean its own ear with its tongue, Like you don't

892
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 3: need to know that, or you know.

893
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 2: They're out there, I don't.

894
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: I love the facts. Yeah, they're great.

895
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 3: They they they got me my foundation of a few

896
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 3: thousand followers. And then but the cardigans. People want to

897
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 3: see people doing good and what I want people to

898
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 3: do is do good themselves as well, right, And that's

899
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 3: the that's the whole message hopefully they take from my

900
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 3: social media. You know, I'm trying to unplug them for

901
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 3: two minutes of the day that you know, it's not

902
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 3: that bad. Even though the world is in chaos. It

903
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 3: starts with me, It starts with you, It starts with

904
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 3: everybody listening. It just starts with you. It's making one

905
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 3: right decision at a time.

906
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:04,439
Speaker 1: Yep.

907
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 3: And that's that's where that's how we're going to change

908
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 3: the world. That's how we're going to be better. And

909
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 3: it all encompasses love. You have to love, yeah, and

910
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 3: that's it. That's true power, it's true.

911
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 1: But I and I think also, you know, with your

912
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 1: social media, no matter what it is, if it's you know, crap,

913
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 1: you should know Lord's work cardigans. I think people just

914
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: like seeing you. You know, you're really good and you're genuine,

915
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: and I think people can see that. And that's the

916
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: point I wanted to convey in this, is that the

917
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: person you're seeing, besides like when you do like the

918
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: Sunday morning when you run up like obviously with the thing.

919
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: It's hilarious you're putting on for that, you know, but

920
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: all the other stuff is genuinely just who you are.

921
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: You've always been that guy. And I think I don't

922
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: need it doesn't need to be stated. I think people

923
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: can see that, they can see that you're just genuine.

924
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: You're Zeb.

925
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 3: You know.

926
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: I always make a joke about Zeb that if the

927
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 1: world goes to shit and like the end of the

928
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 1: world comes, I'm gonna go to Zeb's house, you know

929
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: what I mean, because I feel like Zeb will protect

930
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: me and guide us you know, I'll tell this real

931
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 1: story real quick. There's so many stories I can take

932
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: a tell. But we used to go on this boys,

933
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: you know, rafting trip every year or go away every year.

934
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: And one year we went all the guys to Socco

935
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: in New Hampshire, North Conway, the Socco River. I'm sorry,

936
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: was that is that an Instagram follower that's hitting you

937
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: up on it? Of course it is. I'll wrap it

938
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,720
Speaker 1: up very so. So we went up to the Socco

939
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: to raft down to you know that we call that

940
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 1: the tubing we went to We went tubing.

941
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 2: It was the Is this the one we had to

942
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 2: get in the wall? Yes, this is the we went

943
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 2: on the relaxed one, the relaxed one.

944
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 1: Yeah. So the water was very cold. We went early

945
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: in the season, probably in June. You know, it gets

946
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: warmer later. So we're going down the Socco the guys,

947
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: like six guys, and we come upon these two women

948
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: that were stuck in a in a in a fallen tree.

949
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 1: So and they were larger women. So you know what

950
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 1: happened was they were going down probably not paying attention.

951
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: They might have been drinking, I don't know, and they

952
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 1: didn't get out to move out of the way of

953
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: the tree and they went into the tree branches and

954
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 1: were stuck and could not get out of their tubes.

955
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: Which sounds like a funny scene, but it was like serious.

956
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: So we come along and we're like, oh shit. Before

957
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: you know it, Zeb jumps into action into the freezing

958
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 1: cold water, fucking freeze these two women. Like we're watching

959
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: them like what the hell is he doing and ended

960
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: up getting them out and rescuing them.

961
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 2: Yeah remember that. Yeah, not one thank you. I wasn't

962
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 2: looking for the thank you.

963
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: But wow, that's not what we were saying earlier. That's

964
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: not why we do it.

965
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 2: We do it, but yeah, that's wow. Yep.

966
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I always say that about Zeb. You know, you're

967
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: you're a great leader. That's what that you can be

968
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: in life. You can be a leader or a follower.

969
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 1: You know. That's why I tried to teach my son

970
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: is to be a leader. Don't do what everybody else

971
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: is doing. Don't do things just because they tell you

972
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: to do them, or they's just because they're doing it.

973
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: Be your own person, yes, you know, but don't be

974
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 1: too proud to always learning, always learn, always learn, always learning.

975
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: You're building on you. Yeah. Two words that you want

976
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 1: to stay away from. Are I know?

977
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 2: Oh, I know, I know, I know. See I say, yeah, yes,

978
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 2: you're right.

979
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so true. It's so true. So zeb thank

980
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: you for coming on the podcast.

981
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 2: I appreciate it.

982
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: Thank you for your friendship. Tomorrow we're gonna have some legs.

983
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: Have some legs. Yeah, I got some hip issues going on.

984
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: I'm working with Jenna, my stretch girl on it. Who,

985
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: by the way, ask about you. Every time I'll go see.

986
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 2: You, I'll go, okay, I'll talk to you. When I

987
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 2: leave here, we'll talk to John.

988
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: You were supposed to make an appointment or you had

989
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: an appointment and you missed it. I did. Yeah, so

990
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: she wants to see shame Yeah, shame on you. She

991
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: wants to see you. So go see Jenna. And then

992
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: you know, I've been had some hip issues. So we'll

993
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: have to do some some friendly hip friendly exercises. So,

994
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, I hope he covered it all with this. No,

995
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 1: you don't need to or blow on me.

996
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 2: Absolutely story. Why would you bring that up? I know,

997
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 2: I oh my head, I'm sweating.

998
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. Should I tell that one real quick? To end with?

999
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now you have to give contact because he just

1000
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 2: can't leave this.

1001
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: I know, I know. So back in the day, we

1002
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: used to squat really heavy, and you know, zech get overheated,

1003
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: you get overheated. So when I'm talking, I would have like,

1004
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: you know, four oh five or three eighty five on

1005
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 1: my back, squatting trying to get five reps. I go

1006
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: down for like three, and zeb would be there like

1007
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 1: he's the best fucking hype man you could ever think of,

1008
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: Like come on, two more, justin two more, screaming in

1009
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: my ear and he realized, I don't know how that

1010
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: on those last one or two reps. Before I would

1011
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: go down to squat down as he's like, you know,

1012
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: yelling at me, he would blow on.

1013
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 2: My neck and I'm gonna lit this down.

1014
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: He just did it one day, and you know what,

1015
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 1: it sounds weird and it sounds gay, honestly, but the

1016
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: cold air gave me power. Yeah, and you would blow

1017
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 1: on it and I would go down and I would

1018
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: get the rep. So then we started doing that is like,

1019
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 1: this is unbelievable.

1020
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 3: At the while I was taking I took my hat

1021
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 3: off now and then I was yeah, and then I

1022
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 3: would fan you with my hat the back of Yeah.

1023
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 2: But I didn't have the hat that day. Yeah, I

1024
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 2: don't know where it came from.

1025
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: I was just like it.

1026
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 3: I could feel you were just really like overheating him,

1027
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 3: like maybe he just needs cold there.

1028
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,479
Speaker 2: It just I just wasn't even thinking.

1029
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: I just it's okay.

1030
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you just you came you, you racked

1031
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 3: the weight and you turn out like you, you know what,

1032
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 3: keep doing it. But Chris, Chris is absolutely not having

1033
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 3: it because he was there, so he's like, do.

1034
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: Not, don't ever do that again. I can picture that.

1035
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: But you know what, Zeb, if I was going to

1036
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 1: be gay with anyone, I'd rather be gay with you. Well,

1037
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: thank you everybody. I hope this podcast was good. And

1038
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: you can follow zeb on Instagram at zeb Days and

1039
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: there is a po box on your profile if you

1040
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:54,760
Speaker 1: want to donate Cardigans only car you use panties?

1041
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 2: No please, I'm not a salvation no.

1042
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: No. Girls do have our fans of you, so you

1043
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: might get some used panties. I don't know what goes

1044
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: on there. I don't know, but Cardigan's only, Cardigan's Only. Alright,

1045
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 1: love you, Zebright, love you too, all right, everybody, We'll

1046
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: talk tomorrow.