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Speaker 1: It's night side, Dan Ray on Boston's radio.

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Speaker 2: For that's great news about the Bruins. Maybe the Bruins

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Speaker 2: go on defeated. This is the first game they haven't

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Speaker 2: been scored on. It's really some amazing possibilities for the

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Speaker 2: Bruins with their new coach Marco Sturm. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if Dan is still there, but I'm always an optimist.

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Speaker 3: This might be the formula.

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Speaker 4: Just shut everybody out and you'll go eighty two and oh, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean yeah, exactly. Yeah, the other team doesn't score and

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Speaker 2: you kids just go on one a game, you'll be

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Speaker 2: all set. So absolutely to make the New Jersey Devils

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Speaker 2: from the mid nineties look like an a goal scoring powerhouse,

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Speaker 2: which they were not anyway. Great to talk with the

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Speaker 2: Dan good to stay in touch here anytime. Dan the

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Speaker 2: kid from Walpost pitch in a heck of a game

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Speaker 2: tonight for the Yankees. He's down two to one, but

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Speaker 2: he's the best pitcher that they have of that team.

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Speaker 1: He's been unbelievable, only to only two strikeouts tonight though

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Speaker 1: against Toronto, compared to the what was it eleven that

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Speaker 1: he had against the side.

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Speaker 2: That's okay, that's okay. Becoming a crafty right hander. You know,

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Speaker 2: you don't have to strike out eleven people every game. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: Very good, Thanks Ded. All Right, we're not going to

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Speaker 2: talk baseball, We're not going to talk hockey. We're going

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Speaker 2: to talk about another really ugly incident in Boston last night.

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Speaker 2: It was a pro Palestinian rally, which to me means

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Speaker 2: a pro Hamas rally. It's a group that's called Students

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Speaker 2: for Justice in Palestine and thirteen of these folks got

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Speaker 2: themselves arrested. Four police officers were injured in this in

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Speaker 2: this riot. It was a riot right near the State House,

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Speaker 2: at the foot of Park Street and Tremont Street, by

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Speaker 2: the State House. And with us back forty eight hours

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Speaker 2: he was with us talking about the meetup situation earlier

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Speaker 2: this week and the problems that they had over the

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Speaker 2: weekend in the South End, and problems last night were

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Speaker 2: really nasty. Larry called around, welcome back to nightside.

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Speaker 1: How are you sir doing okay?

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Speaker 5: Dan?

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Speaker 1: Yep, you're right forty eight hours later, right back, yes,

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Speaker 1: So thanks for having me again. And I wish we

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Speaker 1: were talking about something better other than you know, police

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Speaker 1: officers getting attacked and physically assaulted.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple of them ended up went with a

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Speaker 2: broken nose, with a broken finger. These these these are

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Speaker 2: thirteen and the whole group of them, they came to

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Speaker 2: raise havoc. As far as I'm concerned, this was not

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Speaker 2: some spontaneous situation that got out of control. They were

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Speaker 2: looking for a fight, as I wasn't there, But I'm

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Speaker 2: assuming that you would not disagree with that, not at all.

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Speaker 1: Dere mantur. And they're posting that they have on their

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Speaker 1: own social media accounts say it's a week of rage

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Speaker 1: and that's what it's about. Apparently that rage was turned

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Speaker 1: on the police officers last night, and you know, we

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Speaker 1: and it's just it's despicable behavior and it should never happen,

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Speaker 1: you know. On a bright note, I did see that

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Speaker 1: the District Attorney's office was successful today and the judge

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Speaker 1: does make us happy. Some repercussions. Maybe people were listening

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Speaker 1: to your show the other night, and yeah it.

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Speaker 2: Did it happen to be the same judge who dealt

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Speaker 2: with the two knuckles from Rhode Island. Or was it

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Speaker 2: a different judge if.

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Speaker 5: You know, I don't know that, he answered, okay, fine.

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Speaker 2: So I just want to give people an idea about

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Speaker 2: who was there. Of the thirteen who were arrested, we'll

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Speaker 2: very proud of them. Osama L. Katib He's twenty six

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Speaker 2: from Watertown. See how's we got here? Rohter Atwood, he's

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Speaker 2: police officer and wrote her from Somerville. He's twenty one.

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Speaker 2: He supposed he's a student tonight at Tufts University. Tufts

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Speaker 2: might say to Rohoter, Hey, Rhoder, you're more interested in

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Speaker 2: writing than you are in reading, writing, arithmetic. Why don't

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Speaker 2: your life together. Then we had Atlanta Carring Braun twenty

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Speaker 2: from Malden. A moon prophet. That's a great name. Twenty

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Speaker 2: they're all from surrounding communities and maybe one from Dorchester,

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Speaker 2: they were looking, they were ready to rumble.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, they're not children, they're young adults.

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Speaker 1: They know right from wrong, and they've chosen the wrong

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Speaker 1: accomplish here, you know, attacking police officers just it just

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Speaker 1: shows how violent you can be. And the conversation I

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Speaker 1: really want to have in stress to people, Dan is,

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Speaker 1: if an individual at the age of twenty two is

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Speaker 1: law enforcement officer. They would have no regard for your

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Speaker 1: life whatsoever. And it's shameful and I don't know what

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Speaker 1: we're going to do here in society. If they're not

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Speaker 1: strong repercussions for this type of behavior, then we're just

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Speaker 1: condoning it, and we're encouraging it, and we're allowing these

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Speaker 1: twenty year olds to think that they can do whatever

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Speaker 1: And it's really a sad day right now. I hope

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Speaker 1: the judges are going to hand down very strong sentences

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Speaker 2: And I mean, even if they don't want to incarcerate them,

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Speaker 2: I'd like to see them incarcerated, but put that aside

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Speaker 2: for a moment. Give them some very serious community service time,

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Speaker 2: and if they don't show up and do the community service,

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Speaker 2: then you put them in jail.

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Speaker 1: Look, we're not advocating for someone to spend hard years

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Speaker 1: Maybe he should do thirty days in a cell. Maybe

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Speaker 1: he should do six months of hard probationary period, but

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Speaker 1: I'm going to leave that up to the judiciary, and

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Speaker 1: I'm going to wait to hopefully the judge will compare

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Speaker 1: like sentencing for like crimes. But really we're not looking

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Speaker 1: to be a strong repercussion and a message sent here.

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Speaker 2: Well. The other the other problem is that if there

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Speaker 2: purpose of as I said, they were ready to rumble.

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Speaker 2: It's as simple as that. And then today at the court,

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Speaker 2: and I think you might have seen some of this tonight.

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Speaker 2: They had all of their their their signs and their

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Speaker 2: very special people warry and you know that that's a huge,

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Speaker 2: huge problem in my opinion, And I just hope you

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Speaker 2: be angry about this because it needs it needs to stop,

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Speaker 2: because if this doesn't stop, the and the kids get

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Speaker 2: away with it and by the day they're not our kids.

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Speaker 2: There was a group of students for Justice in Palestine.

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Speaker 2: It's a very radical organization that is this is These

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Speaker 2: are not peace marchers. These are people who are going

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Speaker 2: out looking for trouble and they found it last night

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Speaker 2: with the Boston Police Department. So tell you guys to

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Speaker 2: stay safe and let's let's see what happens. By the way,

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Speaker 2: I think we have to give a little bit of

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Speaker 2: a kudo to the governor today more Healy who said

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Speaker 2: that she held the news conference at at noontime at

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Speaker 2: the State House. Were you were you need that at

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Speaker 2: any time today?

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Speaker 1: By the way, she actually we had just completed the

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Speaker 1: reading of the role of Fallen Officers at the State House.

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Speaker 1: It's the Law Enforcement Memorial Foundation does a reading of

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Speaker 1: all the fallen officers, and the governor was there, spent

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Speaker 1: I'm very proud to leave that organization with the officer

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Speaker 1: James Kennely of the Patrols Association.

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Speaker 5: But we were there, we heard.

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Speaker 1: The governor's speech, We had a nice conversation as she

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Speaker 1: continues to stand strong for law enforcement and that's what

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Speaker 1: we're looking for herself. Maya Wu again very strong words

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Speaker 1: in the news today about not tolerating this behavior, not

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Speaker 1: happy with what the judge did today. So hopefully it's

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Speaker 1: work hard day and night. It's no secret how many

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Speaker 1: through the summer and no days off, sixteen seventeen hour days,

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Speaker 2: Yet, two things. One, this reminds me very much of

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Speaker 2: the Occupy Wall Street activities of twenty ten twenty eleven

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Speaker 2: It's one thing to have a news conference. I commend

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Speaker 2: the governor for what she said today, but let's see

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Speaker 2: if she follows through. It's as simple as that. I'll

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Speaker 2: believe it when I see it, Larry, and I want

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Speaker 2: we have to back the blue. It's as simple as that,

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Speaker 2: because if now we're going to live in anarchy, Larry.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if I could, if I could give one

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Speaker 1: plug down. There is a very nice lady, the mother

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Speaker 1: of statewhere Presentative Jessica Giannino, who listens to you every

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Speaker 1: single night for hours, and she was praising our conversation

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Speaker 1: the other night. I'm sure she's listening tonight. I just

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Speaker 1: want to say thank you to her and her daughter,

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Speaker 1: the state rep who is a staunch supporter of law enforcement.

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Speaker 1: So the more the more state representatives and the more

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, no question, And thanks very much for

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Speaker 2: mentioning that lady. There's a I want to send her

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Speaker 2: a big shout out from nightside as well, missus Giannino.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much Larry, we'll talk so.

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Speaker 1: All right, thank you, Dan, have a good nighte Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to.

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Speaker 2: Open up the phone lines here and you you read

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Speaker 2: I think what happened last night. Can you imagine if

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Speaker 2: you're in the middle of a melee. H This is

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Speaker 2: not good for Boston. It's not good for our city's reputation,

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Speaker 2: All right, let's see what people have to say. This

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Speaker 2: Frank is in West Roxbury, Frank, This says west Roxbury.

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Speaker 5: He is good evening, Dan, I hope you're feeling better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we've had now this meet up. I

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Speaker 5: So I'm not too impressed with the commissioner, That's all

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's why I'm saying they need to be you

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just it can't be well, thank you for

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you very much. I appreciated Christian six

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Speaker 2: But this is a very dangerous organization as we have

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Speaker 3: Hey Larry, Dan that was a heavy show last night,

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Speaker 3: No, he is a detective, He's been a detective of

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Speaker 2: age on an elderly person, that there's protections you know

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Speaker 2: that you'd like to think exist. But as far as

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Speaker 2: I'm concerned, this kid who punched the police officer, assuming

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Speaker 2: you know, assuming it is proven, and I'm sure that

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Speaker 2: they can prove it, you know, hit him with everything,

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Speaker 2: hit him with the book. I mean, you know that's

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Speaker 2: has to make an example within the context of due process,

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Speaker 2: But make an example of him, hit him with a sentence,

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Speaker 2: put him in jail for a while. I mean, that's

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Speaker 2: that's a huge that's a huge step. You know, we're

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Speaker 2: not talking about some kid who was drinking a six

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Speaker 2: pack with his girlfriend behind the bleachers at the football stadium.

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Speaker 2: We're not talking about some kid who was driving in

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Speaker 2: a car and was smoking a joint in the back

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Speaker 2: seat of the car. We're talking with somebody who broke

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Speaker 2: the nose of a police officer in a brawl, in

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Speaker 2: a fight.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree that covering.

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Speaker 2: This well, I do intend to cover it, and I

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Speaker 2: also want to give a shout out and actually a

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Speaker 2: kudo to the governor. I was surprised. I was happy

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Speaker 2: to see her out there today because look, there's bad

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Speaker 2: stuff going on in a lot of cities around the country.

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Speaker 2: There's bad stuff in Portland, bad stuff in Chicago. You've

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Speaker 2: seen the stuff we're done in Charlotte where the guy

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Speaker 2: stabbed the woman on the train from Ukraine. You've seen

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Speaker 2: the story down in New York where someone lit someone

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Speaker 2: on fire and literally burned and bruned them to death

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Speaker 2: in a inside the tunnels. The system down in New York.

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Speaker 2: This is this is a horrible situation we find ourselves.

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Speaker 2: People feel they have license to do whatever they want.

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Speaker 2: And got to send a message. Thank you, Larry, appreciate

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Speaker 2: your call.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: All right, I've got a couple of folks who dropped off,

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Speaker 2: so I'd love to hear from you. If you support

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Speaker 2: the police, please feel free to add your voice. If

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Speaker 2: you don't have the courage to support the police, well

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Speaker 2: then you know next time I'm here in trouble. I

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Speaker 2: don't know what you're gonna do, But we need Those

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Speaker 2: police were assaulted last night by a large crowd. They

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Speaker 2: had to they had to stand their ground. They did fine.

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Speaker 2: They were thirteen people arrested, all losers. Thirteen losers and

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Speaker 2: four police officers were injured six seven, two, five, four

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Speaker 2: ten thirty six seven nine. Be right back on Night's side.

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Speaker 2: I'd love to have you joined the conversation.

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Speaker 1: With Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.

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Speaker 2: Back to the phones we go, got to go to

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Speaker 2: Jeff in Abington. Jeff, welcome your next Night Side.

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Speaker 4: This is just a start. It's gonna get a lot

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Speaker 4: worse with you. Woo and the governor have no control

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Speaker 4: over them. In fact, these are the people who vote

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Speaker 4: for Democrats, so they really don't want them to go away. Uh,

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Speaker 4: they'll give you a lip service, but the rank and

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Speaker 4: fire police don't like Woo, but they endorsed her and

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Speaker 4: she's not going to back them. If one off, If

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Speaker 4: one of those officers shot one of those kids and

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Speaker 4: killed them, what do you think would happen to that

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Speaker 4: police officer?

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Speaker 2: He'd be on trial. I mean, that's the that's the lesson.

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Speaker 4: So you reput your soul. These kids know nothing's going

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Speaker 4: to happen two of them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well they got arrested. I mean, they got arrested.

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Speaker 2: But now let's see what the judicial system does. Let's

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Speaker 2: see what the.

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Speaker 4: DA because all the trouble at haven't and not much. No,

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Speaker 4: they didn't. So they you know, just like a child.

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Speaker 4: If child knows if you can get away with it,

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Speaker 4: he's gonna keep going that.

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Speaker 2: You're absolutely right on your point. I think we're in

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Speaker 2: for some tough times here when you think about it.

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump has had a pretty successful first of six

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Speaker 2: or seven months of his presidency, and yet uh, there's

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Speaker 2: no one. There's so many people on the other side

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Speaker 2: who aren't even willing. I mean, tonight, it appears that

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Speaker 2: there might be a very significant breakthrough on the situation

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Speaker 2: in the Middle East. I didn't I.

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Speaker 4: Didn't make extreme media h Trump. You don't like.

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Speaker 2: Trump, Well, let me tell you what I feel about Trump. Okay,

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Speaker 2: there there are issues that he takes, positions he takes.

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Speaker 2: I think the wall had to be closed. I'm glad

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Speaker 2: he closed the wall. But then I think he does

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Speaker 2: things and he's sometimes his own worst enemy. So I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm like an umpire to be really honest, with you.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to call it.

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Speaker 4: Didn't you make a statement He'll never be president of

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Speaker 4: the United States at one time?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I did, I thought I and I admit to that. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I absolutely admit to that.

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Speaker 3: Jeff, would you find it?

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Speaker 2: Find it?

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Speaker 4: It's been poisoning our youth so the last ten years ago,

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Speaker 4: I haven't no do me.

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Speaker 2: A favor, I haven't been poisoning anyone about Trump. If

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Speaker 2: you've listened to my show, and I hope you have,

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Speaker 2: you know I was extremely critical of Joe Biden. I

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Speaker 2: was extremely You.

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Speaker 4: Was surprised he was surprised at the debate, how far

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Speaker 4: go on Biden was. And I wasn't surprised at all

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Speaker 4: because I follow things, I know people, I hear things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well you might be smarter, you know, Jeff, you

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Speaker 2: might be a lot water than I am. I can

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Speaker 2: tell you.

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Speaker 4: I gather information. You're you're more interested all your milk cottons.

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Speaker 4: I'm doing what milk rinsing all your milk cottons for recycling?

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Speaker 2: What do you? What do you do? You leave your

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Speaker 2: milk cottons dirty and leave them in your house? I mean,

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Speaker 2: come on, well, good for you, Good for you. You're

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Speaker 2: a You're a you're a you're a person who obviously

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Speaker 2: has some positions and congratulations, congratulations. I would if I

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Speaker 2: were you, I would keep everything down, cellar and uh,

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Speaker 2: don't even take it. You know, it's a you're a

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Speaker 2: little off bas Joe at this point. But that's fine,

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Speaker 2: that's fine, that's fine. Okay, you you have no you

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Speaker 2: have no clue. Uh what. I don't know how much

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Speaker 2: you listen to my show, but if you listen to

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Speaker 2: my show, you would understand that I'm somebody who's not

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Speaker 2: going to be in anyone's pocket. I'm not going to

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Speaker 2: be a cheerleader for anyone. Uh. If Donald Trump can

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Speaker 2: pull this off in the Middle East, I will give

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Speaker 2: him all the credit in the world. It's as simple

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Speaker 2: as that.

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Speaker 4: You're a Democrat, you vote Democrat.

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Speaker 2: You know something, you're making assumptions. First of all, I'm

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Speaker 2: not a Democrat. I'm yeah, absolutely, as most people are

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Speaker 2: in Massachusetts.

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Speaker 4: You won't even answer this question. But one last time

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Speaker 4: you voted for a Republican.

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Speaker 2: You want to answer the question for president? Is that? Oh? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I've voted for plenty of Republicans over the years. I've

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Speaker 2: voted for plenty of Democrats. Simple as that. You know,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I voted for John McCain. In two thousand

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Speaker 2: and eight, I voted for Mitt Romney.

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Speaker 4: Uh, did you tell me who you voted for the

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Speaker 4: last president?

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Speaker 2: I chose not to be really honest with you, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: what are you so afraid of? Well, I think that

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Speaker 2: Trump's temperament is his achilles heel, is what I'm trying

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Speaker 2: to say.

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Speaker 4: What are you so afraid of to reveal who you've

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Speaker 4: voted for? What's going to happen?

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Speaker 2: Because I told you I did not vote for either

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Speaker 2: one of them. I chose not to vote, and and

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry that disappoints you, but you know that's the truth.

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Speaker 2: It's as simple as that you have a right to

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Speaker 2: go to the polls and not vote. There's a lot

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Speaker 2: of I don't vote for anyone on the ballot when

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Speaker 2: they're running unopposed.

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Speaker 4: So you think would be better off if Kamala Harris

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Speaker 4: was the president right now?

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Speaker 2: No, No, I do not, No, I do not. I

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Speaker 2: think that she was a disaster, and I think that

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Speaker 2: that her time in the Democratic Party is long since

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Speaker 2: over Look, Jeff, I've given you a lot of time here.

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Speaker 4: You're welcome to call a lot of time, because I'm

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Speaker 4: probably your best call up you ever have.

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Speaker 2: You know, it may not be my best, but I

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Speaker 2: think you're the most modest. Jeff, I would say, thanks

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Speaker 2: very much. I have a great guy, Phil. Phil is

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Speaker 2: a great caller.

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Speaker 5: Phil.

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Speaker 2: Welcome you. And that's on that side.

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Speaker 7: You were reading my mind when I'm sorry, but no,

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Speaker 7: I don't know. There's so much stuff going on. Was

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Speaker 7: the it's so so many he's going on? Wasn't there

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Speaker 7: a Boston police cole was at New York when they

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Speaker 7: was on fire that in Boston.

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Speaker 2: Recently on Sunday morning down at the intersection of Tremont

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Speaker 2: in Mass Avenue.

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Speaker 7: Yes, this dad, And I'm not any I don't run

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Speaker 7: an official guy. But the point is, why don't they police?

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Speaker 7: When the police came in, they have report on Dorty. Okay,

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Speaker 7: so we have a problem with this way, a problem

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Speaker 7: of this way. When you told me that I know

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Speaker 7: the police, some police officer, I hear she got a

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Speaker 7: note boken. No, I'm thinking, okay, things should have No

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Speaker 7: why don't they give these like you have a spare

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Speaker 7: tire or you have a Jackham, you got something in

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Speaker 7: the car, Why don't you put something in the trunk

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Speaker 7: a life preserver. Why don't they put a helmet? Face?

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Speaker 7: You guy hit him.

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Speaker 2: I don't know the circum Look, I don't know the circumstances.

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Speaker 2: It could have. It could have been, you know, look,

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Speaker 2: just think about it, Phil, it could have been the

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Speaker 2: police officers might have had on helmets and face shields,

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Speaker 2: but helmets and face shields in pantemonium can't get knocked off.

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Speaker 4: A lot of mine got.

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Speaker 2: A broken nose. Hey, Phil, thank you very much. You're

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Speaker 2: my best caller of the night. Is offer. Thanks, talk

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Speaker 2: you soon. Okay, you have a great night. Good night.

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Speaker 2: All right, we're going to continue this conversation. I have

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Speaker 2: two hours left and uh uh, I'm kind of uh.

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Speaker 2: I'm more than happy to talk to you about anything.

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Speaker 2: But I feel very strongly that if these riots and

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Speaker 2: the the the automobile meet up was a riot and

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Speaker 2: last night was a ride, if they aren't stopped, and

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Speaker 2: you've got to give mar Healey a little bit of

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Speaker 2: credit today for getting out. And I'm sure that they

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Speaker 2: were play in her side of the aisle, who weren't

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Speaker 2: happy that she was that. We'll place some of her

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Speaker 2: sound for you coming back here on nightside. It's coming

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Speaker 2: up on the ten o'clock News six, one, seven, two, five, four,

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Speaker 2: ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.

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Speaker 2: I can only invite you to join us, coming back

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Speaker 2: on Nightside